Greg Hill and Robert Shea frequently exchanged letters (http://historiadiscordia.com/letters-robert-shea-and-greg-hill-we-are-definitely-dealing-with-volatile-materials/)... this is an article Mal-2 wrote for Shea's zine, NO GOVERNOR.
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transcript:
Greg Hill: Why I Am Not An Anarchist for Robert Shea's No Governor, June 1975, Page 00001.
Courtesy the Discordian Archives.
About five years ago I considered myself an anarchist (anarchopacifist, in particular), because I believe that the highest authority available to any individual is one's own honest experience and that any other authority provides only vicarious information at Most Unexceptional.
I've not changed my opinion about this, but I have ceased referring to myself as an anarchist. The reason is basic and simple: TOO MANY DAMN RULES.
OK, it's a joke. But it's a TRUE JOKE. The incompatibility is not between my position and some anarchist theories, but between my position and the position of most of those who use the label "anarchist."
It seems that Rule Number One of anarchy, as understood by authoritarians and by most who call themselves anarchists, is that a government is an enemy. Rule Number Two is that to gain freedom the individual is politically or morally or somehow obligated to fight this enemy.
In my opinion, these rules represent a position which would be better referred to as anti-archy. The prefix "a" means "without" and it need not imply "against." There is an exact parallel with the word atheist—it is usually used and understood, by those for it and against it, as thought eh word was anti-theist.
I can respect the anti-archist position, but I don't share it. The government is not my enemy because there is no government. OK, another joke, but still a TRUE joke. I know good and well that there are people with guns who restrict my free decisions, and I know about groups of people collecting taxes from me, and all of the rest of this government business. I perceive it in the same manner that I perceive (for example) a big rock in my path which necessitates stepping around and compromising myself. Frankly, I don't believe in rocks either—I just step around and compromise (which is actually easier than is believing in them). I think that there is a big difference in degree between (a) existentially responding to a phenomenon and (b) conceptualizing it as an "enemy." If everything in the universe that has ever thwarted my purpose is my enemy, then only nothing can be my friend—and that excludes even myself. But, still, I respect the anti-archist position. After all, if one does perceive aphenomenon to be an enemy then one would be a damn fool to do other than defend ones' self.
Much of this essay is futzing around with labels. Still, I feel free to futz, and in any case what I'm trying to do is to avoid the assumption by others that I am at war with certain people just because those people think that they are a government and go out of their way to forcibly impose their notions on me.
I'm not at war with them or with them or rocks either. And insofar as anyone thinks that an anarchist is one who is supposed to believe something or another, or is obligated to do something or another, then there are too damn many rules for me and to hell with the whole business.
A shame most of the "Discordians Must Be Anarchists" crowd hasn't read this.
It worries me that this seems to make a lot of sense.
Quote from: Cain on May 20, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
A shame most of the "Discordians Must Be Anarchists" crowd hasn't read this.
They would likely make the argument that he admitted to being considering himself an anarchist earlier (and very likely when the Principia was being written).
And as we all know, changing, altering or re-evaluating and beliefs or stances is heresy of the highest order.
Other good stuff on that site too, The Oswald transcript is quite interesting, for a look at Thornley as much as Oswald.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 20, 2014, 01:52:03 PM
It worries me that this seems to make a lot of sense.
Why? The worry, I mean.
To statists, I am an anarchist.
To anarchists, I am a tool of the state.
Not to blow their minds, or anything. It's that I hate them, and I wish to make them angry.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 21, 2014, 09:34:29 PM
Why? The worry, I mean.
Just your run of the mill "Kill Yr Idols/The Buddha on the Road" sort of thing.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2014, 11:57:45 PM
To statists, I am an anarchist.
To anarchists, I am a tool of the state.
Not to blow their minds, or anything. It's that I hate them, and I wish to make them angry.
:mittens:
once again, Roger, you have the high level perspective this planet needs.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 22, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2014, 11:57:45 PM
To statists, I am an anarchist.
To anarchists, I am a tool of the state.
Not to blow their minds, or anything. It's that I hate them, and I wish to make them angry.
:mittens:
once again, Roger, you have the high level perspective this planet needs.
The moment you let THEM label you, you belong to THEM. They now have a steering wheel rammed up your ass, and They can drive you around. Instead, let US label you. Because we're better drivers.
I'm stealing that.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 22, 2014, 02:22:04 PM
I'm stealing that.
Attribution, or I'm sending the Grabby-Girls around.
It'll get the same attribution your works always get.
"THUS SPAKE THE DESERT PROPHET ROGER, HIS EYES AGLAZE, HIS BALLS AFIRE, HIS HAIR RECEEDED DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO SHUT UP"
I'm getting it on business cards as a time saving measure.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 22, 2014, 02:25:56 PM
It'll get the same attribution your works always get.
"THUS SPAKE THE DESERT PROPHET ROGER, HIS EYES AGLAZE, HIS BALLS AFIRE, HIS HAIR RECEEDED DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO SHUT UP"
I'm getting it on business cards as a time saving measure.
Fuck yeah. :lulz:
I request that Roger put that in his profile.
Either here or on LinkedIn, either one works.
I as a fellow former anarchist approve of this message.
Anarchist --> Chain Arts ---> Rich Satan
In Portland there are a number of anarchist/unionist folks with part time jobs and the Red & Black Cafe. The Obverse Abbey of the Rising Collapse is active though. About anarchy here - http://theecod.org/writings/anarchy.html
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 28, 2014, 06:44:20 AM
In Portland there are a number of anarchist/unionist folks with part time jobs and the Red & Black Cafe. The Obverse Abbey of the Rising Collapse is active though. About anarchy here - http://theecod.org/writings/anarchy.html
Dude, a bunch of us are from Portland. We know.
Thanks for sharing, will you be out on NE Alberta for Last Thursday tomorrow? I have been doing the organic cotton candy at NE 28th for a decade, did you know that? Say "Eris sent me" and receive a discount -0nly $2
Organic cotton candy, you say?
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 28, 2014, 04:21:15 PM
Thanks for sharing, will you be out on NE Alberta for Last Thursday tomorrow? I have been doing the organic cotton candy at NE 28th for a decade, did you know that? Say "Eris sent me" and receive a discount -0nly $2
I believe I've seen you there in the past, and I will make a point of saying hi and buying some cotton candy if I ever find myself mistakenly on Alberta during Last Thursday ever again.
I live in the neighborhood, and do my best to avoid it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
Organic cotton candy, you say?
Made almost entirely of C12H22O11!
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 28, 2014, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 28, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
Organic cotton candy, you say?
Made almost entirely of C12H22O11!
I still say we'd get rich on my organic gasoline idea.
Funny 'cause it's TRUE.
Made from 100% free range dinosaurs.
Someone pointed out that oil isn't actually made of dinosaurs. That pains me. It's like Enki is slowly taking over everyone in the world. ONE DAY, THERE WILL ONLY BE ENKI. AND HE WON'T LIKE THE JOKE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
Made from 100% free range dinosaurs.
This concept bothers me for a number of reasons.
First off, it's perfectly transparent about OH GOD NO HELP ME IT'S HAPPENING.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 28, 2014, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 28, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
Organic cotton candy, you say?
Made almost entirely of C12H22O11!
I still say we'd get rich on my organic gasoline idea.
Funny 'cause it's TRUE.
Made from 100% free range dinosaurs.
Someone pointed out that oil isn't actually made of dinosaurs. That pains me. It's like Enki is slowly taking over everyone in the world. ONE DAY, THERE WILL ONLY BE ENKI. AND HE WON'T LIKE THE JOKE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
:horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Quote from: Pæs on May 28, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2014, 10:31:26 PM
Made from 100% free range dinosaurs.
This concept bothers me for a number of reasons.
First off, it's perfectly transparent about OH GOD NO HELP ME IT'S HAPPENING.
:lulz:
:lulz:
Yes! Tasty organic cotton candy. For sure strawberry, lemon, and mango. About the comment about not liking the Last Thursday inconvenience. I worked residential treatment and alternative ed. in the community. One of my former students, Jamil Myrick, was shot dead at 15th and NE Alberta. 20 years ago many of the buildings on Alberta were boarded up and gangs were wilding on the street, it was the ghetto. If it weren't for the dirty hippies and their art the neighborhood would not be cool. It bothers me that Johnny-come-lately residents and business owners on the street don't show any appreciation. Five evenings a year, that's it. I don't think we need worry. Rents are pricing the artists out. The scene is less cool every year, now food trucks show up and people from all over are trying to cash in. The money on a "last" Thursday has never been awesome, it is far from payday, great advertising though Anyway back on point, anarchy was a part of the scene at the start. We did not ask permission. At first the street did not close. I watched as too many people were reveling to be contained on the sidewalk - between 26th and 27th a band was rockin' and suddenly people burst into the street to dance and drink from plastic cups. The police closed the street for safety, but the street was unusable for cars.TMI -sorry, see you there.
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 29, 2014, 04:05:11 AM
Yes! Tasty organic cotton candy. For sure strawberry, lemon, and mango. About the comment about not liking the Last Thursday inconvenience. I worked residential treatment and alternative ed. in the community. One of my former students, Jamil Myrick, was shot dead at 15th and NE Alberta. 20 years ago many of the buildings on Alberta were boarded up and gangs were wilding on the street, it was the ghetto. If it weren't for the dirty hippies and their art the neighborhood would not be cool. It bothers me that Johnny-come-lately residents and business owners on the street don't show any appreciation. Five evenings a year, that's it. I don't think we need worry. Rents are pricing the artists out. The scene is less cool every year, now food trucks show up and people from all over are trying to cash in. The money on a "last" Thursday has never been awesome, it is far from payday, great advertising though Anyway back on point, anarchy was a part of the scene at the start. We did not ask permission. At first the street did not close. I watched as too many people were reveling to be contained on the sidewalk - between 26th and 27th a band was rockin' and suddenly people burst into the street to dance and drink from plastic cups. The police closed the street for safety, but the street was unusable for cars.TMI -sorry, see you there.
Fuck you, I've lived in this neighborhood for 18 years. I had my first child when I lived at 22nd and Alberta. My dad has owned a house on Mississippi for 60 fucking years and I was born in nopo. Don't get all uppity at me about "the ghetto" and "Johnny-come-latelies" just because I don't prefer to participate in the fucking circus. I don't have any problem with most of the businesses on Alberta; I'm friends with the owners of some of them, and old Joe is my neighbor - oh, that's right, I'm sure you would have considered Joe's Place "ghetto", so never mind. I don't even have a problem with Last Thursday, or the Mississippi Street Fair (of which my brother has been awarded Best BBQ seven years in a row). I just don't like to go out in them, because I'm a middle-aged mom and it's not my scene. I'm sorry black people make you so fucking uncomfortable, I guess I won't bother stopping by. I'd hate to get any of my ghetto on your cotton candy.
"Gangs were wilding on the street". :lol: Are you talking about me and my baby? Walking around the neighborhood, going down to the cafe for lattes and terrorizing people with my stroller? I actually LIVED THERE THEN, DUMBASS. A few of the buildings were boarded up, but it wasn't gangland by ANY stretch of the imagination. But I'm probably one of the residents you dismiss as being ungrateful for all the white hippies buying the cheap, run-down houses as the older residents who were too infirm and poor to maintain them bought them up. Which is not a bad thing... it's the cycle of life in a city. Old poor people die, young poor people buy their houses and fix them up, and eventually become middle-aged people with decent middle-aged incomes. The only thing that's changed is that the redline vanished, so now the middle-class black families can buy houses anywhere they want.
BTW the neighborhood would be just as nice without the circus. Possibly nicer.
I don't know you so I am unable to confirm or deny your gang affiliation.
I'm sure you would know the father of my kids as one of the builders of last thursday, btw. Not that you give a shit about anything short of congratulating yourself.
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 29, 2014, 05:44:46 AM
I don't know you so I am unable to confirm or deny your gang affiliation.
Yeah, as a johnny-come-lately I'm sure you're unable to confirm or deny much of anything about my neighborhood.
You apparently racist piece of shit.
Well that escalated quickly.
Adding "Organic Cotton Candy" to the list. Not sure what this list is, or what else will be included but I feel a need to start it.
You really reported Nigel for calling you a dumbass? Really?
That's a whole 30 seconds of my life, checking that moderator report, that I'll never get back.
BRB, REPORTING EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING.
Yeah, but really, stop reporting petty shit.
I have to open a window and dismiss it every time it happens, and it's fucking annoying. It wasn't funny the first time, and it's certainly not come the 5th time.
I'll pack that in then. Apologies.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but "the ghettos of Portland, OR" sounds a heck of a lot like "The slums of Hampton Beach, NY".
As compared to, say, West Baltimore.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. I grew up in Chicago.
OMG STOP REPORTING POSTS.
STU, discuss this out with nigel first, we don't intervene unless it is otherwise unavoidable.
Junkenstein, hit that report button one more goddamn time and you'll have my Junk in your trunk if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
I'm assuming you got a load of repeats. I did try and vary it for amusement but obviously failed here.
Apologies again.
Heh, no bother, they are the same ones Cain saw, it just sends out an email to us each time.
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 29, 2014, 05:44:46 AM
I don't know you so I am unable to confirm or deny your gang affiliation.
Well...Aren't you adorable.
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
You really reported Nigel for calling you a dumbass? Really?
That's a whole 30 seconds of my life, checking that moderator report, that I'll never get back.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Oh that's priceless.
"A middle-aged mom on the internet called me a dumbass after describing pushing her baby around the neighborhood in a stroller!"
He'd probably stroke out from fear if he ever saw me in person. I might use a swear word. The horror!
He'd probably have already crossed the street to avoid you it seems.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
He'd probably have already crossed the street to avoid you it seems.
You can't be too careful with Those People. They're mostly in gangs.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 29, 2014, 12:23:24 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but "the ghettos of Portland, OR" sounds a heck of a lot like "The slums of Hampton Beach, NY".
As compared to, say, West Baltimore.
There used to be ghettoes here, but it was a lot more than 20 years ago. When I was little we lived right by the Columbia Villa, and things were pretty ugly there in the 70's up until the mid-90's. Drive-by shootings, drug houses, gang murders, stuff like that. There are still some sketchy pockets in N/NE but for the most part all the ghettos have been pushed out to the suburbs.
Alberta Street in 1994 was kind of a tired out old neighborhood, but ghetto it was not by any stretch of the imagination, unless you define "ghetto" as "where black people live".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
He'd probably have already crossed the street to avoid you it seems.
You can't be too careful with Those People. They're mostly in gangs.
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Oh, and yeah; it was no Baltimore. Ever.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Baby carriage drive by. Very dangerous.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
He'd probably have already crossed the street to avoid you it seems.
You can't be too careful with Those People. They're mostly in gangs.
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Little black baby girls are just gang members in training. That thing looks like a pacifier but it's clearly a gat.
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Baby carriage drive by. Very dangerous.
Well, we've all seen the video clip where the dwarf gang member disguises himself as a baby in a stroller and pulls out a machine gun on a restaurant full of people.
You can't be too paranoid with people like me, you know.
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Baby carriage drive by. Very dangerous.
Well, we've all seen the video clip where the dwarf gang member disguises himself as a baby in a stroller and pulls out a machine gun on a restaurant full of people.
You can't be too paranoid with people like me, you know.
It's one of those gang initiations you hear about all the time. You know, where Those People flash their brights at you, and if you do it back, they murder everyone in town.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Baby carriage drive by. Very dangerous.
Well, we've all seen the video clip where the dwarf gang member disguises himself as a baby in a stroller and pulls out a machine gun on a restaurant full of people.
You can't be too paranoid with people like me, you know.
It's one of those gang initiations you hear about all the time. You know, where Those People flash their brights at you, and if you do it back, they murder everyone in town.
:lol: Urban legends... keeping white people scared since 1953.
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2014, 08:59:07 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Yeah, in this case there were TWO of them.
Baby carriage drive by. Very dangerous.
Well, we've all seen the video clip where the dwarf gang member disguises himself as a baby in a stroller and pulls out a machine gun on a restaurant full of people.
You can't be too paranoid with people like me, you know.
It's one of those gang initiations you hear about all the time. You know, where Those People flash their brights at you, and if you do it back, they murder everyone in town.
:lol: Urban legends... keeping white people scared since 1953.
:tgrr:
My friend's mother's cousin knew a guy whose brother got killed in one of those.
What I love is that I tried to be friendly and even offered to line his pockets, and he decided to use it as an opportunity to shit on me just for living here and trying to avoid the street fair.
Kinda says a lot about his character.
I have been caught unawares by the street fair a few times, and my favorite bar shuts down their happy hour menu during it which is always disappointing when I was counting on one of their burgers.
Dude would probably shit himself if I threw out there that I'm one of the artists he's proclaiming himself a champion for. :lulz: What a fucktard. I've had work in the Guardino Gallery, among others.
Rev. Stu Holbrook: you are an ass, and you don't speak for the longtime residents of this neighborhood, OR for the artists and hippies. If I see you on the street I'll still offer to shake your hand, if you can deal with touching a hippie artist who lived here when it was still "ghetto".
I had a great joke about the Pterocaust, combustion, commuting, Vaseline and incest... And now it's gone. Besause this frigging tablet thought I wanted to [more] to emote, clearing my reply buffer. Let me add that it only clears my response when I got something really worth sharing. This is similar, though more annoying, than when I accidentally hit "report to moderator" while scrolling down a page. Tablets suck.
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
You really reported Nigel for calling you a dumbass? Really?
That's a whole 30 seconds of my life, checking that moderator report, that I'll never get back.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Oh that's priceless.
"A middle-aged mom on the internet called me a dumbass after describing pushing her baby around the neighborhood in a stroller!"
He'd probably stroke out from fear if he ever saw me in person. I might use a swear word. The horror!
You are truly ghetto 4 lyfe.
Quote from: Cain on May 30, 2014, 04:01:21 AM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 29, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 29, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
You really reported Nigel for calling you a dumbass? Really?
That's a whole 30 seconds of my life, checking that moderator report, that I'll never get back.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Oh that's priceless.
"A middle-aged mom on the internet called me a dumbass after describing pushing her baby around the neighborhood in a stroller!"
He'd probably stroke out from fear if he ever saw me in person. I might use a swear word. The horror!
You are truly ghetto 4 lyfe.
So true. It's the thug lyfe for me. :lol:
FUCK DAMMIT I WAS HOPING FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN PEOPLE PEOPLING ALL OVER THIS ANARCHY THREAD!
...
Wait, did an anarchist report someone for swearing? :lulz:
FIGHT THE POWER POLITELY.
REVOLUTIONS RUN ON MANNERS.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 30, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
FIGHT THE POWER POLITELY.
:lol:
Quote from: axod on May 30, 2014, 08:27:48 AM
REVOLUTIONS RUN ON MANNERS.
:lol:
Heehee, i looked up anarchist slogans and i found some gems:
QuoteBigger cages! Longer chains!
QuoteThree Word Chant!
QuoteEat your pheasant / drink your whine
Your days are numbered, bourgeois swine
QuoteNo more petitions
Kill the politicians
QuoteKill, kill, kill the rich!
QuoteWorkers of the World...Relax !
Quote- "À bas le salariat".
Down with wage labor.
- "À bas le travail".
Down with work.
- "À bas les slogans".
Down with slogans.
Anarchists are often hilarious yet some are strangely blind to the similarities between the police's violence and their own.
Dude's a poser. He totally tried to pull that hipster bullshit "I was on Alberta street before it was cool" and it blew up in his face, and now he's butthurt.
What a great Last Thursday - a good time seemed to be had by most. Great read since my last post! Hail Eris! Yes, I reported being called a dumbass by All-Father, for two reasons. First, I felt the vitriol of his comment was unwarranted and did not want to go on about how I have been called worse by people that know me. Dumb-ass is not one of the accurate terms. Second, now that my doors are open to Discordians and we have a stable temple space - I have been checking out how things work, or don't, at least in the now - the hodge and podge. I am not a dumb ass. I do not claim to be a champion of the artists. I support the Six Days Art Co-op by giving them a healthy cut of the money I generate. However, I have worked with gang affected, yes - with an "a", youth. Jamil Myrick was a student of mine and he was shot dead at 15th and Alberta. My church as met at 28th and Alberta for two years.
"Read Reich and act accordingly!" "Those who lack imagination cannot imagine what is lacking." "A cop sleeps inside each one of us. We must kill him. Drive the cop out of your head." These are three of my favorite slogans from Anarchists, from the French Uprising 1968
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 07:16:43 PM
What a great Last Thursday - a good time seemed to be had by most. Great read since my last post! Hail Eris! Yes, I reported being called a dumbass by All-Father, for two reasons.
Speaking as an admin, we don't care. That's not a violation of one of the 6 rules...Which you obviously didn't bother reading. Dumbass.
QuoteFirst, I felt the vitriol of his comment was unwarranted and did not want to go on about how I have been called worse by people that know me.
Nobody cares. Least of all "him", because "he" is busy, busy, busy. (Hint: Nigel is a girl. Dumbass)
QuoteDumb-ass is not one of the accurate terms.
The facts contradict that.
QuoteSecond, now that my doors are open to Discordians and we have a stable temple space - I have been checking out how things work, or don't, at least in the now - the hodge and podge. I am not a dumb ass.
You are. I can explain why, if you'd like. It could be important later in life.
QuoteI do not claim to be a champion of the artists. I support the Six Days Art Co-op by giving them a healthy cut of the money I generate. However, I have worked with gang affected, yes - with an "a", youth. Jamil Myrick was a student of mine and he was shot dead at 15th and Alberta. My church as met at 28th and Alberta for two years.
*blank stare, apathy*
Quote"Read Reich and act accordingly!" "Those who lack imagination cannot imagine what is lacking." "A cop sleeps inside each one of us. We must kill him. Drive the cop out of your head." These are three of my favorite slogans from Anarchists, from the French Uprising 1968
And how did that turn out?
Fucks sake, what a dumbass.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 30, 2014, 07:27:17 PM
Fucks sake, what a dumbass.
You are missing an apostrophe. I am beginning to doubt that you're actually English.
He wasn't worth the correct punctuation.
I climbed all the way up here, into this thread, simply to say: Dumbass.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 30, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
He wasn't worth the correct punctuation.
Point.
He doesn't seem like he was born wrong or anything. He just seems to have a SGitR/CGitR thing going on.
Doktor's Prognosis: Incipient Gavriel Syndrome.
Recommended treatment: :lord:
To be fair, he may provide some amusement yet. I nearly lost my shit with the "I am not a dumbass" line.
If he's waded this far into Discordianism, he might want to meditate the Cosmic Schmuck principle a little bit.
No need. Clearly, he's not a dumbass.
"Some say he is a holy man. Others say he is a dumbass."
All-Father said:
I believe I've seen you there in the past, and I will make a point of saying hi and buying some cotton candy if I ever find myself mistakenly on Alberta during Last Thursday ever again. I live in the neighborhood, and do my best to avoid it.
"This was after his initial response to me :Dude, some of us live in Portland and know." Somewhere in here he said I seem to be a racist.
He goes on to say - What I love is that I tried to be friendly and even offered to line his pockets, and he decided to use it as an opportunity to shit on me just for living here and trying to avoid the street fair.
Seems dumb ass works for all.
New reading material, re: the French Uprising - when tours were given at Versailles in the mid 80's there was a section of wall near the kitchen that had been blown up by anarchists - the guide explained that it was a part of the tour to have tourists understand that not all French people were happy with the gov't spending money to refurbish the palace. Hundreds of thousands of people heard the story. The story lives. How does anything turn out? This is a Discordian thread, yes?
Wow that did escalate quickly, what fun.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 30, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
He wasn't worth the correct punctuation.
Point.
He doesn't seem like he was born wrong or anything. He just seems to have a SGitR/CGitR thing going on.
Doktor's Prognosis: Incipient Gavriel Syndrome.
Recommended treatment: :lord:
:lulz:
His claim to fame is, apparently, that he once coached a kid who was shot to death a block away from where I was living in 1997, and that he doesn't understand how to use the quote function.
The word you're looking for, Nigel, is "dumbass".
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
All-Father said:
I believe I've seen you there in the past, and I will make a point of saying hi and buying some cotton candy if I ever find myself mistakenly on Alberta during Last Thursday ever again. I live in the neighborhood, and do my best to avoid it.
"This was after his initial response to me :Dude, some of us live in Portland and know." Somewhere in here he said I seem to be a racist.
He goes on to say - What I love is that I tried to be friendly and even offered to line his pockets, and he decided to use it as an opportunity to shit on me just for living here and trying to avoid the street fair.
Seems dumb ass works for all.
New reading material, re: the French Uprising - when tours were given at Versailles in the mid 80's there was a section of wall near the kitchen that had been blown up by anarchists - the guide explained that it was a part of the tour to have tourists understand that not all French people were happy with the gov't spending money to refurbish the palace. Hundreds of thousands of people heard the story. The story lives. How does anything turn out? This is a Discordian thread, yes?
Wow that did escalate quickly, what fun.
That didn't actually make much sense, but the fact is, you are a dumbass. This is okay, I am also a gigantic dumbass, though in different ways. LMNO is a dumbass, the fucker hunts sharks. Big fucking sharks. Nigel is a dumbass, in that she keeps trying to reason with YOUR kind of dumbass.
You are also a dumbass for implying that Nigel and I are in fact the same person. We are, of course, but in incongruent universes. Our milkshakes keep all the boys in a LaGrange Point between our yards. We would teach you, but we would have to issue an invoice.
Now, you may get the feeling that you aren't being taken seriously.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
All-Father said:
I believe I've seen you there in the past, and I will make a point of saying hi and buying some cotton candy if I ever find myself mistakenly on Alberta during Last Thursday ever again. I live in the neighborhood, and do my best to avoid it.
"This was after his initial response to me :Dude, some of us live in Portland and know." Somewhere in here he said I seem to be a racist.
He goes on to say - What I love is that I tried to be friendly and even offered to line his pockets, and he decided to use it as an opportunity to shit on me just for living here and trying to avoid the street fair.
Seems dumb ass works for all.
New reading material, re: the French Uprising - when tours were given at Versailles in the mid 80's there was a section of wall near the kitchen that had been blown up by anarchists - the guide explained that it was a part of the tour to have tourists understand that not all French people were happy with the gov't spending money to refurbish the palace. Hundreds of thousands of people heard the story. The story lives. How does anything turn out? This is a Discordian thread, yes?
Wow that did escalate quickly, what fun.
That didn't actually make much sense, but the fact is, you are a dumbass. This is okay, I am also a gigantic dumbass, though in different ways. LMNO is a dumbass, the fucker hunts sharks. Big fucking sharks. Nigel is a dumbass, in that she keeps trying to reason with YOUR kind of dumbass.
You are also a dumbass for implying that Nigel and I are in fact the same person. We are, of course, but in incongruent universes. Our milkshakes keep all the boys in a LaGrange Point between our yards. We would teach you, but we would have to issue an invoice.
Now, you may get the feeling that you aren't being taken seriously.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
All-Father said:
I believe I've seen you there in the past, and I will make a point of saying hi and buying some cotton candy if I ever find myself mistakenly on Alberta during Last Thursday ever again. I live in the neighborhood, and do my best to avoid it.
"This was after his initial response to me :Dude, some of us live in Portland and know." Somewhere in here he said I seem to be a racist.
He goes on to say - What I love is that I tried to be friendly and even offered to line his pockets, and he decided to use it as an opportunity to shit on me just for living here and trying to avoid the street fair.
Seems dumb ass works for all.
New reading material, re: the French Uprising - when tours were given at Versailles in the mid 80's there was a section of wall near the kitchen that had been blown up by anarchists - the guide explained that it was a part of the tour to have tourists understand that not all French people were happy with the gov't spending money to refurbish the palace. Hundreds of thousands of people heard the story. The story lives. How does anything turn out? This is a Discordian thread, yes?
Wow that did escalate quickly, what fun.
What the holy fuck are you going on about??
OK- I recant, I am a dumb-ass and often a smart-ass. This will (likely) be my final comment on this particular thread, though I will read on. I was attracted to this thread over others because of my church's support of anarchy. See http://theecod.org/stu.html and play - enjoy.
Jamil Myrick was a kindhearted and gang-affected (yes, with an "a") teenager. He was polite when he met my wife. I worked with him as an alternative education teacher in a contained classroom for a full year, He was shot dead while riding his bicycle with friends at 15th and Alberta, June 14, 1997. The police wrote it off as gang related violence and it is a cold case. Not cool.
I think I will attempt to start an OARC (Obverse Abbey of the Rising Collapse) discussion, a place where Portland Discordians can bring new meaning to Rip City. We can role model spirited debate - virtual and actual.
Now you sound like a pompous ass as well as a dumb one. No signs of life here, move along.
Those of us that enjoy smacking beehives with sticks, don't always hang around to see the results. Om namah Shiva. Hail Eris!
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 10:06:01 PM
OK- I recant, I am a dumb-ass and often a smart-ass. This will (likely) be my final comment on this particular thread, though I will read on. I was attracted to this thread over others because of my church's support of anarchy. See http://theecod.org/stu.html and play - enjoy.
Jamil Myrick was a kindhearted and gang-affected (yes, with an "a") teenager. He was polite when he met my wife. I worked with him as an alternative education teacher in a contained classroom for a full year, He was shot dead while riding his bicycle with friends at 15th and Alberta, June 14, 1997. The police wrote it off as gang related violence and it is a cold case. Not cool.
I think I will attempt to start an OARC (Obverse Abbey of the Rising Collapse) discussion, a place where Portland Discordians can bring new meaning to Rip City. We can role model spirited debate - virtual and actual.
WHAT
ARE
YOU
TALKING
ABOUT?
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 11:06:37 PM
Those of us that enjoy smacking beehives with sticks, don't always hang around to see the results. Om namah Shiva. Hail Eris!
Oh, okay. Around here, we call that "being a passive-aggressive shitneck".
Good to know.
"SocioLOLgical experiment (nee dumbass)".
But he once knew a black kid, PERSONALLY, you guys, who was killed in possibly gang-related violence in a mostly-black neighborhood in 1997. He has mentioned this THREE TIMES, why are you not taking it seriously with regards to him being an expert on Portland??? He knew an ACTUAL BLACK KID who DIED FROM POSSIBLY GANG VIOLENCE.
HE IS A WELL-MEANING WHITE LADY, you guys. WHY AREN'T YOU RECOGNIZING HIS SACRIFICE????
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 31, 2014, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: Rev. Stu Holbrook on May 30, 2014, 10:06:01 PM
OK- I recant, I am a dumb-ass and often a smart-ass. This will (likely) be my final comment on this particular thread, though I will read on. I was attracted to this thread over others because of my church's support of anarchy. See http://theecod.org/stu.html and play - enjoy.
Jamil Myrick was a kindhearted and gang-affected (yes, with an "a") teenager. He was polite when he met my wife. I worked with him as an alternative education teacher in a contained classroom for a full year, He was shot dead while riding his bicycle with friends at 15th and Alberta, June 14, 1997. The police wrote it off as gang related violence and it is a cold case. Not cool.
I think I will attempt to start an OARC (Obverse Abbey of the Rising Collapse) discussion, a place where Portland Discordians can bring new meaning to Rip City. We can role model spirited debate - virtual and actual.
WHAT
ARE
YOU
TALKING
ABOUT?
He knew a black kid once. He wants everyone to recognize. It makes him practically a black kid who grew up affected by racism and violence.
He's like, fully legit, and he can prove it by knowing a black kid's name. That he totally met.
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
This Thread:
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Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 31, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
BURN THE CORPORATIONS!
Unless it is the state doing it, then BURN THE STATE!
See? Anarchism is a panacea.
Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 31, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
Throw a brick at it's head!
Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 31, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
By emulating the beliefs and actions of Emma Goldman and, uh, shooting a guy, to inpsire the masses to spontaneous, uncoordinated rebellion where workers will seize control of the means of production and abolish the state.
Pretty obvious, really.
Sometimes, I want to marry Cain.
:lulz:
I'm sure Stu will find some pretext for posting his website three or four more times in the next week or so.
Quote from: Cain on May 31, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 31, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
By emulating the beliefs and actions of Emma Goldman and, uh, shooting a guy, to inpsire the masses to spontaneous, uncoordinated rebellion where workers will seize control of the means of production and abolish the state.
Pretty obvious, really.
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 31, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
Sometimes, I want to marry Cain.
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SMASH THE STATE WITH HOMO-SEX.
JESUS HAD TWO DADIES
JESUS HAD TWO DADIES
JESUS HAD TWO DADIES
JESUS HAD TO DYES
:argh!:
Quote from: Cain on May 31, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: Net (+ 1 Hidden) on May 31, 2014, 06:42:11 AM
I'm terribly curious how Anarchy can fix this: http://www.ituc-csi.org/new-ituc-global-rights-index-the
By emulating the beliefs and actions of Emma Goldman and, uh, shooting a guy, to inpsire the masses to spontaneous, uncoordinated rebellion where workers will seize control of the means of production and abolish the state.
Pretty obvious, really.
There is something about the concept of emulating beliefs that strikes me as weird.
Emulating beliefs.
Emulating beliefs.
Emulating beliefs... shit it lost all meaning.
Emu-lactating bailiffs.
MOOOO!
Ya'lamu ma baina aidihim wa ma khalfahum
Ya'lamu ma baina aidihim wa ma khalfahum
Ya'lamu ma baina aidihim wa ma khalfahum
Why does this guy from Portland have the same phone number as a painting service on the other side of the country? And why is this painter's website registered to some guy in Portland again? Who's Ed, Stu? Is he a gang member who stole your cell phone and identity? If he's forbidding you to tell, give us a sign by posting a link to your website and telling that black kid's story again.
MAN, ya'll know NOTHIN bout no goddamn ghetto till you slummed it in APPLETON, bitches.
Specifically, da mutha fuckin SOUTH SIDE. Which is like, 6 steps from the North Side, but them be some DANGEROUS STEPS, yo. I believe that sidewalk even has a CRACK IN IT. That's right, our ghetto might even have CRACK. But probably not, Appleton is pretty good about fixing sidewalks and roads.
Oh, turns out the ghetto conversation ended pages ago.
My bad.
Quote from: trix on July 09, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
MAN, ya'll know NOTHIN bout no goddamn ghetto till you slummed it in APPLETON, bitches.
Specifically, da mutha fuckin SOUTH SIDE. Which is like, 6 steps from the North Side, but them be some DANGEROUS STEPS, yo. I believe that sidewalk even has a CRACK IN IT. That's right, our ghetto might even have CRACK. But probably not, Appleton is pretty good about fixing sidewalks and roads.
:lulz:
Appleton: Dropping 187 on a motherfuckin' cop.
Was actually wondering if the ecumenicals had fixed that traffic light, it's been a little while for me.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 09, 2014, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: trix on July 09, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
MAN, ya'll know NOTHIN bout no goddamn ghetto till you slummed it in APPLETON, bitches.
Specifically, da mutha fuckin SOUTH SIDE. Which is like, 6 steps from the North Side, but them be some DANGEROUS STEPS, yo. I believe that sidewalk even has a CRACK IN IT. That's right, our ghetto might even have CRACK. But probably not, Appleton is pretty good about fixing sidewalks and roads.
:lulz:
Appleton: Dropping 187 on a motherfuckin' cop.
On THE motherfuckin' cop. Appleton is too tiny to have two of them. 911 just redirects to his iphone.
Quote from: trix on July 09, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
MAN, ya'll know NOTHIN bout no goddamn ghetto till you slummed it in APPLETON, bitches.
Specifically, da mutha fuckin SOUTH SIDE. Which is like, 6 steps from the North Side, but them be some DANGEROUS STEPS, yo. I believe that sidewalk even has a CRACK IN IT. That's right, our ghetto might even have CRACK. But probably not, Appleton is pretty good about fixing sidewalks and roads.
:lulz: