So you fucking think fry cooks don't deserve a higher minimum wage?

[Reginald Ret]

high minimum wage is very good for the economy, just compare the economies of countries with a high minimum wage with countries with a low or no minimum wage.

Fuck the minimum wage, throw around the concept of "Maximum wage" and things get interesting.

We actually have that here, no-one is supposed to earn more than the prime minister.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBalkenendenorm&edit-text=&act=url

[Rev Thwack]

The weird thing to me is how this shift towards "profits at all costs" happened. My father was a loyal Republican, but he actually felt and acted like he had a responsibility to his employees... That their happiness and health helped translate into productivity.


He was right. His employees were as loyal as could be and often went way beyond what was expected for him, as he did the same for them. He never had a problem with his people stealing from him (they had plenty of opportunity to), they always kept customers happy, and the only time he had people quit was when they had life situations that required it.

Somehow in the years of the yuppies, businesses in this country lost the mindset that the business itself, management and employee, was one big family that took care of each other. When management starts to treat employees as just another replaceable component, employees also lose any sense of responsibility towards the company.

[Don Coyote]

Well, I think I'm going to post it as a reply to her shitty meme. I just don't understand how my high school friends who have all struggled financially are so opposed to higher minimum wages where as I, who had a fairly comfortable, financially speaking, middle class life on Active duty, am all about giving the poor more fucking money. Probably because I actually grew up on welfare.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

high minimum wage is very good for the economy, just compare the economies of countries with a high minimum wage with countries with a low or no minimum wage.

Fuck the minimum wage, throw around the concept of "Maximum wage" and things get interesting.

We actually have that here, no-one is supposed to earn more than the prime minister.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBalkenendenorm&edit-text=&act=url

It's pretty much just simple fucking economics. I am astounded by how many people cannot seem to see that.

[Reginald Ret]

high minimum wage is very good for the economy, just compare the economies of countries with a high minimum wage with countries with a low or no minimum wage.

Fuck the minimum wage, throw around the concept of "Maximum wage" and things get interesting.

We actually have that here, no-one is supposed to earn more than the prime minister.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBalkenendenorm&edit-text=&act=url

It's pretty much just simple fucking economics. I am astounded by how many people cannot seem to see that.

Your 'simple economics' leaves no room for punishing the poor! How will they feed their punishment fetish without that?!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

high minimum wage is very good for the economy, just compare the economies of countries with a high minimum wage with countries with a low or no minimum wage.

Fuck the minimum wage, throw around the concept of "Maximum wage" and things get interesting.

We actually have that here, no-one is supposed to earn more than the prime minister.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBalkenendenorm&edit-text=&act=url

It's pretty much just simple fucking economics. I am astounded by how many people cannot seem to see that.

Your 'simple economics' leaves no room for punishing the poor! How will they feed their punishment fetish without that?!

how short-sighted of me!

[The Johnny]

But increasing the minimum wage will create inflation.

[Reginald Ret]

But increasing the minimum wage will create inflation.

Oh, well, in that case lets continue fucking over innocent people.
Some abstract number might grow and that is much worse than making a large section of society miserable.

[The Johnny]

I meant that that was one of the main arguments ive heard against minimum wage... since more people will have money, and buy more things with it, then money would be worth less because more demand for items. Or something, it never seemed that minimum wage has such a great impact on things of such great scale.

[Reginald Ret]

I meant that that was one of the main arguments ive heard against minimum wage... since more people will have money, and buy more things with it, then money would be worth less because more demand for items. Or something, it never seemed that minimum wage has such a great impact on things of such great scale.

I know you weren't serious, i just hate such stupid arguments and I have to respond.
Now that you have explained it, their position is even dumber.
Even economists understand it doesn't work that way, and I have absolutely no respect for economists.
For fuck's sake, raising wages does not create money. printing money creates money.
Also, more demand means your economy is growing. This is generally considered a good thing.

The worst thing that could happen as consequence of raising the minimum wage would be that some exploitative companies go belly-up.
Luckily, companies failing is a sign of a healthy economy, just like dying individuals is a sign of a healthy ecology.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

As soon as they raise the minumum wage the corporations will raise prices and/or lay people off in order to recoup the increased personnel expenses (unless it passes in conjunction with other laws specifically forbidding the corporations from doing that), quickly returning the overall levels of poverty and human misery back to where they were before. It is acceptable as a temporary stopgap fix but will likely be useless for effecting lasting change.

Also, when did flipping burgers at McDonalds become a career???

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As soon as they raise the minumum wage the corporations will raise prices and/or lay people off in order to recoup the increased personnel expenses (unless it passes in conjunction with other laws specifically forbidding the corporations from doing that), quickly returning the overall levels of poverty and human misery back to where they were before. It is acceptable as a temporary stopgap fix but will likely be useless for effecting lasting change.

Also, when did flipping burgers at McDonalds become a career???

Can you point to a single example of that happening anywhere in the world?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It's kind of amazing how no matter how many times a bad idea is refuted, a few hours later someone promoting it will pop back up with the same argument. Again.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Employee wages is only one part contributing to a company's overhead.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Look at Papa John's, which threatened to cut employee hours and raise prices if the ACA was passed... yet economists projected that a mere 5 cent per pizza cost increase would completely cover the fiscal impact for the company. In most cases, price increases for products would be a minimal percentage, because wages are not the primary cost-setting factor.