Rev Roger, Tales from the City #1: Conspiracy Nuts

[Kai]

It occurs to me, in retrospect, that I *am* a Jeff, just one that got started early.

Same here.

[Faithless]

Unfortunately for me, most of this is really new, though I grew up with a conspiracy nut. I prefer to learn things for myself, guess that it would have saved time to just listen.
TPTB want to control us; true. TPTB want to enslave us to their desires; true. TPTB want to kill off most of us; false. I say this because even those monkey-brained, power-hungry, over-paid individuals that DO want to rule us know that there needs to be someone to do the WORK.
In our reality, money is the real power these days, and to get money one must either steal from one who produces, or earn it, or as a last resort, beg for handouts along the road. Most all politicians fall into the first catagory, as do some so called "charities". I soetimes wonder why they even bother to call them "non-profit organizations". The vast majority of the individuals left are forced to fall into one of the two remaining catagories. We work to earn money, through services, or production, or we beg for it either on the streets or through the welfare system.TPTB need the masses to make the money, or who would they steal it from.

I think that what they really want is complete and utter subjugation of the masses to their will, as well as their laws. That, I will oppose to my last breath.

As for recruiting others, I find it easier to simply share with them the little bit of Truth that I have discovered. Perhaps it will be enough, but it is unlikely.

[Honey]

Whenever I talk to any Conspiracy Nuts or anyone in a postion of power I never try to preach at them, I don't even try to drop the horrible facts, those are becoming plain to see for even the most dimwitted now besides if the sinister plan has become so transparent then its probably entering its final stages  (or at least a crucial part),
what I do is just make OUR con seem like the more fun, more Interesting and more in control option.

Discord: we get laid more then the Bavarian Illuminati.

Wo Ho & not meaning to detract from TGRR's sermons! (& I like what you said there too ^ Faithless) but THIS I must clarify.  Getting laid is an important albeit perplexing issue.   

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1421/whats-the-deal-with-the-church-of-the-subgenius

Philosophically, the church owes it's origin to the Discordian movement of the late 60's and 70's. The first pamphlet of the Church ("The World ends tomorrow and You may Die!") reads a lot like the "bible" of Discordianism, "The Principia Discordia." In fact, as Stang wrote in an e-mail to this author, "The only difference I've been able to see between Discordians and SubGeniuses, is that SubGeniuses get laid."

What's the deal with getting laid?

[the other anonymous]

What's the deal with getting laid?

Let's go back to my place and find out.

-toa,
is cheating on roger

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What's the deal with getting laid?

No shit.  I haven't gotten laid since Maria and I split.  Which may explain my laser-like hatred.

[Aufenthatt]

Philosophically, the church owes it's origin to the Discordian movement of the late 60's and 70's. The first pamphlet of the Church ("The World ends tomorrow and You may Die!") reads a lot like the "bible" of Discordianism, "The Principia Discordia." In fact, as Stang wrote in an e-mail to this author, "The only difference I've been able to see between Discordians and SubGeniuses, is that SubGeniuses get laid."

What's the deal with getting laid?

Consider the age of the average discordian to the average sub-genii

[the other anonymous]

Consider the age of the average discordian to the average sub-genii

Ooh! Ooh! Can I be the first to make an "average" joke?

-toa,
too excited

[Honey]

hhhmmmm

[Faust]

Whenever I talk to any Conspiracy Nuts or anyone in a postion of power I never try to preach at them, I don't even try to drop the horrible facts, those are becoming plain to see for even the most dimwitted now besides if the sinister plan has become so transparent then its probably entering its final stages  (or at least a crucial part),
what I do is just make OUR con seem like the more fun, more Interesting and more in control option.

Discord: we get laid more then the Bavarian Illuminati.

Wo Ho & not meaning to detract from TGRR's sermons! (& I like what you said there too ^ Faithless) but THIS I must clarify.  Getting laid is an important albeit perplexing issue.   

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1421/whats-the-deal-with-the-church-of-the-subgenius

Philosophically, the church owes it's origin to the Discordian movement of the late 60's and 70's. The first pamphlet of the Church ("The World ends tomorrow and You may Die!") reads a lot like the "bible" of Discordianism, "The Principia Discordia." In fact, as Stang wrote in an e-mail to this author, "The only difference I've been able to see between Discordians and SubGeniuses, is that SubGeniuses get laid."

What's the deal with getting laid?

Not much a deal for me. i'm talking about from an image standpoint and how try to portray us to the masses, it was a throwaway example. I also tell people we are successful and are millions in number.

[Honey]

Got'cha, Discordians are intelligent, successful, number in the millions & get laid all the time. 

[the other anonymous]

Got'cha, Discordians are intelligent, successful, number in the millions & get laid all the time. 

Now that's what I call delirium!

[Honey]

I try.   

[Honey]

Jeff is what most people would call a conspiracy nut.  He firmly believes that there is a vast conspiracy by "the powers that be" (henceforth referred to as "TPTB") to kill off a big chunk of humanity, and reduce the survivors to serfdom.  He believes that both political parties are mere tools of TPTB, and that the entire government has been corrupted and works towards the ends of TPTB.

Some people laugh at Jeff...some people, but not me.  Jeff is, of course, more right than he knows...The proof of this being that if the government is willing to admit to things like the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments, inventing crack cocaine to fund CIA adventures, and spraying "harmless" viral agents over 2 American cities for the purpose of studying biological warfare...what are they not telling us?

Until a few months ago, Jeff was a republican who was for the various wars we are in, thought that torture was acceptable if unpalatable, and that one party was actually out for our best interests.  Watching him snap out of these particular delusions was refreshing; it gives me a bit of hope that maybe I'm wrong about the general run of mankind...that perhaps if the average Joe was given 10 minutes to catch his breath, then there would be a cleansing of the temple.

The only downside is that when you first open your eyes, there's so many hideous truths to see that you start thinking that everything is something sinister.  This tends to make an individual a little shrill, because the panic that sets in when you realize that everyone around you still believes that everything is fine tends to make you panic a little.  The solution?  "Bob".  Hand the poor bastard a copy of Revelation X, and point out chapter two.

A person who just now sees that there's a huge goddamn machine bearing down on him isn't really ready for Eris.  Not yet.  First he needs "Bob", and the capacity to laugh at doom that "Bob" brings.  He needs to read Orton Nenslo's essays on not freaking out and making yourself totally unbelievable.  He needs a little perspective...the CoN has been setting this shit up for 300 years, so you aren't going to topple it tomorrow, and many Greys will KILL you before they let you upset their comfortable little delusions.

In short, a new biped needs to learn to not toss himself beneath the clattering treads of The Machine.

So what do you do when you know someone like who Jeff used to be, maybe someone who still isn't quite awake, but is smart enough to sense that maybe things aren't as pretty and nice as we're told?  Don't preach at them.  That will simply make YOU unbelievable.  No, instead, it's better to occasionally bring up an ugly fact or two, in a casual manner.  That way, when he starts screaming that the government is rounding up citizens and we need to grab our shotguns and put The Machine down, you can explain the truth to him with a little credibility. 

You can explain to him that the LAST thing he needs to do is go off half-cocked, and become just another example of the "lone nut" or "domestic terrorist" to showcase on the evening news.  You can explain to him that there ARE ways to fight back, ways that don't result in a beneath-the-fold headline about a guy that shot up a DMV or whatever the hell else was handy.  And if this happens enough, if we give a damn enough to help guys like Jeff orient themselves to a terrifying new reality, then our numbers grow...and as our numbers grow, so does our ability to deal with the horrible shit that's being done to us.
 
This is a patience game.  The CoN is strong, but it makes mistakes, and the noose hasn't quite closed yet, so there's no need to panic just yet.  What we need is to learn to discern between the average cabbage and guys like Jeff.  And even though there IS time, there ISN'T an infinite amount of it.

So this is how the world is changed.  Not from the presidential podium, not from the pulpit, but instead at Denny's and the local coffee shop and wherever the hell else you find folks like Jeff.  But Jeff isn't going to come to you, so allow me to suggest that maybe you take some of the time you have dedicated to bickering on the internet and use it out on the street, looking for our glorious horde of freaks with which to TEAR DOWN THE ABOMINATION THAT STANDS ON THE NECKS OF OUR FELLOW MUTANTS!  GET OFF YOUR ARSE WHILE YOU STILL HAVE ONE! 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Or Kill Me.

Please excuse the getting laid distraction posts!  (Pulling my leg & wut)   

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Please excuse the getting laid distraction posts!  (Pulling my leg & wut)   

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Pulling your leg?

[Aufenthatt]

Consider the age of the average discordian to the average sub-genii

Ooh! Ooh! Can I be the first to make an "average" joke?

-toa,
too excited

I think I got there first