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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: 06gforty on May 18, 2009, 09:33:33 pm

Title: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: 06gforty on May 18, 2009, 09:33:33 pm
There are only five days. Are they 24 hours long? presumably not...
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: AFK on May 18, 2009, 09:40:07 pm
Have you read the law of 5s yet? 
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cramulus on May 18, 2009, 09:54:33 pm
There are only five days. Are they 24 hours long? presumably not...

why not a 24 hour day? there's 365 of them


except on leap year
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 18, 2009, 09:58:45 pm
Weekends are a Con by the Man. Everyday should be a day free of the eight hour grind... weekends however, compartmentalize the week into Work/Not Work times for the majority of people. This is a False Duality.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: 06gforty on May 18, 2009, 10:11:54 pm
There are only five days. Are they 24 hours long? presumably not...

why not a 24 hour day? there's 365 of them


except on leap year

This means that...Oh. Weeks don't exist. I get it. Thanks, People. And yes, I do know of the law of 5's. But cheers.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Verbal Mike on May 18, 2009, 10:25:31 pm
For a while (incidentally around when I first arrived here) I managed my work (self-unemployed, if you will) using that calendar, and set a couple of arbitrary no-work and no-paid-work days for myself... The rhythm of it was actually way more natural to me than the 7-day rhythm, but it turned out it was impractical to live on a separate calendar from the rest of the world (duhhh)
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Crazzee on May 19, 2009, 03:53:18 am
For a while (incidentally around when I first arrived here) I managed my work (self-unemployed, if you will) using that calendar, and set a couple of arbitrary no-work and no-paid-work days for myself... The rhythm of it was actually way more natural to me than the 7-day rhythm, but it turned out it was impractical to live on a separate calendar from the rest of the world (duhhh)
Living on both calendars works quite well. I can't do what you did, though, because I'm just a simple school child, y'know.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 19, 2009, 11:35:57 am
Basically, you take 1,2,3,4 or 5 days off from the discordian week, depending on how much you want to work.

It's not really that hard.

And what do you mean "weeks don't exist" ?
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: AFK on May 19, 2009, 12:00:39 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: 06gforty on May 19, 2009, 06:30:10 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 19, 2009, 06:35:36 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.

23 hours, fifty-nine minutes and 55 seconds... plus an extra 5 seconds for the law of fives.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: AFK on May 19, 2009, 06:37:10 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.

Because while the Discordian Calendar is neat, it wasn't so ground breaking that it altered the Earth's rotation on its axis. 
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2009, 07:26:10 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.

Because while the Discordian Calendar is neat, it wasn't so ground breaking that it altered the Earth's rotation on its axis. 

:mittens:
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 19, 2009, 07:58:31 pm
And believe me, we tried.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Hoopla! on May 19, 2009, 10:39:32 pm
I'm still trying.  Give me time.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Crazzee on May 20, 2009, 04:03:25 am
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.
Because while the Discordian Calendar is neat, it wasn't so ground breaking that it altered the Earth's rotation on its axis. 
:mittens:
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 20, 2009, 05:17:33 am
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.

Because while the Discordian Calendar is neat, it wasn't so ground breaking that it altered the Earth's rotation on its axis. 

What kind of impotent religion can't alter the laws of Nature???
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Bu☆ns on May 20, 2009, 05:59:00 am
WUDABOUT a day outta time, man? (http://www.13moon.com/index.htm)
                   \
               :hippie:
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: the last yatto on May 22, 2009, 05:51:26 pm
BAN TIME AND HISTORY!
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: the last yatto on May 22, 2009, 05:55:57 pm
Discordian calendar.
I'm still trying.  Give me time.

ITS THE ONLY CALENDER THAT DOES NT NEED TO BE UPDATED EVERY YEAR, are you tired of having to write birthdays on all your new calenders, do you dread the day after new years where you must toss out all that paper from your last years date book. this exiled piece of love that helped you with your problems is now discarted like some cheap whore, that CUTE KITTAH that reminded you to just hang in there last april is now just toss into recycle with until you see all that personal information you left for anyone to see but you dint have a shredder so you are now forced to buy a paper screamer from office depot because your OLD calender IS INFERIOR
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: AFK on May 22, 2009, 06:04:49 pm
Actually, I just use my Outlook calendar.  No paper necessary. 
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 22, 2009, 11:04:04 pm
I think the problem is that he(?) is using the traditional calendar to try to understand the Discordian calendar.

That because the Discordian calendar doesn't have 7 day weeks there are no weeks.  When of course the more obvious answer is, well duh, the weeks are 5 days.  And that means there aren't 52 weeks, there are 73.  It's just different math, is all. 

Thanks for clearing it up, again. So how there's still 24  hours in a day?
And yeah, I did use the gregorian.

Um, you add extra weeks. 73 weeks instead of 52.

365 is divisible by 5, you know.

365 / 5 = 73

So there's no need to change the number of hours in the day.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2009, 02:08:33 pm
Discordian calendar.
I'm still trying.  Give me time.

ITS THE ONLY CALENDER THAT DOES NT NEED TO BE UPDATED EVERY YEAR, are you tired of having to write birthdays on all your new calenders, do you dread the day after new years where you must toss out all that paper from your last years date book. this exiled piece of love that helped you with your problems is now discarted like some cheap whore, that CUTE KITTAH that reminded you to just hang in there last april is now just toss into recycle with until you see all that personal information you left for anyone to see but you dint have a shredder so you are now forced to buy a paper screamer from office depot because your OLD calender IS INFERIOR

this is actually a pretty good point, and one in which our regular calender sucks goat asses.

the discordian calendar has the nice property that it has an exact number of weeks (73) that make up an entire year. and leap day (aka St Tibb's day) just gets squeezed in if it happens that year, or not, but doesnt count as a week day.

therefore, if you'd use a Discordian day/week/year planner, you could buy one at any moment of the year, and not worry about pages with wasted weeks that are already past, or that you'll have to wait a couple of weeks before your planner starts. just start at today's date, and when you hit the end of the year, go back to page one, the weekdays will always line up.

our current system just means more money for the people that make calendars and planners, it's a conspiracy ;-)

but really, this week-lining-up property of the Discordian calendar is pretty cool in the sense that, if you'd wanted a Discordian week planner for a year, you would only have to design it once, and could print off a new one every year, since it would be the same every year :) [I'd just add a list of leap years on St Tibb's day so you can either cross it out or not]
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2009, 02:12:56 pm
yeah that's a good point. The Discordian calendar, however, has this property:


Louie XIV: Hey cram, what are you doing this weekend?
Cram: [squinting at his calendar] errrr which ones are weekends again....?



you know what'd be useful? A Discordian calendar that hiighlighted Saturday / Sundays. And maybe a different color to mark the first day of a gregorian month. It would probably look kind of cool too, because the highlights would make a visual pattern on the page.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2009, 03:10:13 pm
Except, in that case, you'd need a new one every year, again.

But yeah it would be useful to also know the regular date and day.

Stupid regular calendar...
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Verbal Mike on May 25, 2009, 11:23:06 pm
Maybe add the "real" dates upside-down in small print at the bottom of each day-box
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Post by: the last yatto on May 27, 2009, 10:16:13 am
couldn't the day of the week be written in hodge-podge font

so even if it wasnt the current year youd remember the symbols for saturday for that given year

ITS LIKE MUSICAL CHAIRS except for days of the week
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 27, 2009, 11:08:48 am
using seven distinct symbols, not a bad idea.
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Post by: Cramulus on May 27, 2009, 01:20:44 pm
symbols or colors... and yeah, you have a key at the top of the month where you pencil in what the code means... This year Tuesdays are marked with a little Zarathud....


good thinking!
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 01:24:12 pm
Or, you could realize that the whole purpose for the Discordian Calendar is to jolt your mind into realizing how arbitrary our deliniation of time is, how we accept without thinking that our lives are separated into 7 day cycles...

...and trying to lay the Discordian Calendar over the Gregorian to make them "fit" actually runs counter to the whole point of the excercise.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cramulus on May 27, 2009, 01:26:43 pm
nah, it's so when someone looks at my calendar they're like, "dude."


Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 01:29:00 pm
Chapter 61:

A successful cabal is like a dust cloud,
rising from nowhere, ungraspable, fading into nothingness.
The tallest blade of grass gets cut,
while the crab grass creeps unharmed.
Keep your head down.
Keep your fucking mouth shut.

Thus by concentrating on goals
without playing ego games,
much can be accomplished.
If all you want to do
is brag about how cool you are,
you might want learn to play the guitar, instead.








Appropriate section in bold.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2009, 01:30:53 pm
Or make dopeass calendars.

Its pretty much like playing the guitar.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cramulus on May 27, 2009, 01:35:43 pm
Chapter 61:

A successful cabal is like a dust cloud,
rising from nowhere, ungraspable, fading into nothingness.
The tallest blade of grass gets cut,
while the crab grass creeps unharmed.
Keep your head down.
Keep your fucking mouth shut.

Thus by concentrating on goals
without playing ego games,
much can be accomplished.
If all you want to do
is brag about how cool you are,
you might want learn to play the guitar, instead.








Appropriate section in bold.


are you srsly telling me "ur doing it wrong"??
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 01:40:29 pm
Nah, I'm just fucking with you.


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Post by: Cain on May 27, 2009, 01:45:59 pm
Actually, he was.

When he says he's "just fucking with you" that is in fact a self-referential sentence meaning his denial is meant to fuck with you, by clouding his intentions.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 02:08:08 pm
Shouldn't you be writing more of the Discordian Art of War, or something?








...Oh, wait.  You're doing that right now... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlenfhgfvh962l5?from=Main.LetsYouAndHimFight)
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Post by: Cain on May 27, 2009, 02:29:18 pm
I'm metafucking.

 8)
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Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 02:31:54 pm
Rule 34.  NAO.
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2009, 02:33:42 pm
There is a picture of "Rule 34" fucking itself, somewhere.  I just cannot remember where.
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Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2009, 02:42:31 pm
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/aikimann/rule%2034/rule34-itself.jpg)
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Post by: Triple Zero on May 27, 2009, 04:28:39 pm
Or, you could realize that the whole purpose for the Discordian Calendar is to jolt your mind into realizing how arbitrary our deliniation of time is, how we accept without thinking that our lives are separated into 7 day cycles...

...and trying to lay the Discordian Calendar over the Gregorian to make them "fit" actually runs counter to the whole point of the excercise.

well yes that was the point of the initial exercise.

dunno if it was the whole purpose, though.

either way, it does not matter, because by judicious thinking for ourselves, we came to the conclusion that there is something nifty about having 5 days in a week and the leapday "outside" of the calendar, because it makes the weeks line up, and all the months have the same length.

now I'd love to check out this seeming elegance for myself by jumping right in and starting to use the discordian calendar for all my planning. unfortunately, this planning often depends heavily on something I call "the rest of the world", that use the Gregorian. So to ensure the experiment doesn't fail right at the start, coming up with some kind of scheme to plan both in Gregorian and GregHillian at the same time, seems necessary. Also it allows a more immediate comparison.

and you're doing it wrong!

oh btw, you're also sort of right, because this calendar discussion popped up, i ended up explaining the Discordian calendar to some people, and all of them, first thing they asked is "but that sucks! no weekend!? or do you only have one day off out of five now?" (whereas the answer is obvious)
Title: Re: Regarding The Calendar: What happened to weekends? I really want to know.
Post by: Verbal Mike on May 27, 2009, 11:36:04 pm
The best answer is "no, I still have two days off every week, meaning I only have three days ON now".
This is the thinking that led me to adopting the calendar back when I did. :)