Please destroy the fucking chatroom. I have been trying to log on for 30 fucking minutes, and Mibbet keeps dumping me off mid-logon, and my mIRC software is having a similar problem. I shall not put up with this nonsense, and I really think you should bring all of Maddshark tumbling down into wrack and ruin.
Thanks in advance,
Roger
Same problem here. I can neither confirm nor deny whether or not TGRR's advice is good, but far be it from me to challenge a Rain God who's seen fit to bless my current location with good weather.
Not tried to get into IRC tonight, been busy doing other things.
As far as I'm aware though, there is some server related shit going on just now. Evil Maddsharkers, fucking with our chat!
Mibbit and maddshark suck balls a lot.
Which is why they need some mouthwash, as well as a good scrubbing.
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Last couple times I tried said I couldn't connect so I don't try.
Quote from: Squid on December 16, 2009, 06:17:09 AM
Last couple times I tried said I couldn't connect so I don't try.
THIS!
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
This is, I have to say, the first time that I've seen several people having major problems getting in. Usually problems getting with #discord are related to mibbit or the occasional server issues (which really are very infrequent). Unless of course some of you have had problems logging in for a while and haven't, you know, told anyone.
I'll chase up the server guys and find out what could be causing the problem and get back to you though. My job in IRC really is just keeping things sane enough for chat to happen and I'm not involved in the server side of things at all but I'll do what I can.
Quote from: Payne on December 16, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
This is, I have to say, the first time that I've seen several people having major problems getting in. Usually problems getting with #discord are related to mibbit or the occasional server issues (which really are very infrequent). Unless of course some of you have had problems logging in for a while and haven't, you know, told anyone.
I'll chase up the server guys and find out what could be causing the problem and get back to you though. My job in IRC really is just keeping things sane enough for chat to happen and I'm not involved in the server side of things at all but I'll do what I can.
Yeah, well, if I hosted a stand alone chatroom, would you run it? Would people prefer that over what we have?
Still can't get in.
Quote from: Payne on December 16, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
This is, I have to say, the first time that I've seen several people having major problems getting in. Usually problems getting with #discord are related to mibbit or the occasional server issues (which really are very infrequent). Unless of course some of you have had problems logging in for a while and haven't, you know, told anyone.
I'll chase up the server guys and find out what could be causing the problem and get back to you though. My job in IRC really is just keeping things sane enough for chat to happen and I'm not involved in the server side of things at all but I'll do what I can.
here.
Works fine for me - maybe you has client fails
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 16, 2009, 05:45:34 PM
Works fine for me - maybe you has client fails
Tried using mIRC, too. Nothing works, can't get on. I am assured that I am not banned, but something ain't right.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:43:10 PM
Yeah, well, if I hosted a stand alone chatroom, would you run it? Would people prefer that over what we have?
As long as people with irssi and every other client under the sun can get in.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:43:10 PM
Quote from: Payne on December 16, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
This is, I have to say, the first time that I've seen several people having major problems getting in. Usually problems getting with #discord are related to mibbit or the occasional server issues (which really are very infrequent). Unless of course some of you have had problems logging in for a while and haven't, you know, told anyone.
I'll chase up the server guys and find out what could be causing the problem and get back to you though. My job in IRC really is just keeping things sane enough for chat to happen and I'm not involved in the server side of things at all but I'll do what I can.
Yeah, well, if I hosted a stand alone chatroom, would you run it? Would people prefer that over what we have?
Depending on how much computer-fu I'd need. If you needed a doorman figure much as I'm doing now, then yes.
Quote from: -Kel- on December 16, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:43:10 PM
Yeah, well, if I hosted a stand alone chatroom, would you run it? Would people prefer that over what we have?
As long as people with irssi and every other client under the sun can get in.
I don't know any of that shit. I am willing to host a site, and provide decent software. Someone that knows how this shit works will have to do all that shit.
I could do it easily enough if you funded it.
Of course, given our history on irc you might not appreciate my offer.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
IAWTC.
it doesn't even need to be IRC, something web-based might be even more suitable. the point is being able to interact in real time, right?
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
IAWTC.
it doesn't even need to be IRC, something web-based might be even more suitable. the point is being able to interact in real time, right?
Yeah, and I'd like voice and maybe videochat options.
Preferably, videochat would look like the briefings from starcraft, but I'm not picky.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
IAWTC.
it doesn't even need to be IRC, something web-based might be even more suitable. the point is being able to interact in real time, right?
Yeah, and I'd like voice and maybe videochat options.
Preferably, videochat would look like the briefings from starcraft, but I'm not picky.
Lucky for you, I happen to be a pulsing nondescript mass of flesh and nerve endings.
Quote from: The Omnipotent Grinner on December 16, 2009, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
IAWTC.
it doesn't even need to be IRC, something web-based might be even more suitable. the point is being able to interact in real time, right?
Yeah, and I'd like voice and maybe videochat options.
Preferably, videochat would look like the briefings from starcraft, but I'm not picky.
Lucky for you, I happen to be a pulsing nondescript mass of flesh and nerve endings.
FUCK.
TGRR,
Forgot to call dibs.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2009, 05:34:29 PM
Yep. We need a new chatroom. One that, you know, WORKS.
IAWTC.
it doesn't even need to be IRC, something web-based might be even more suitable. the point is being able to interact in real time, right?
Yeah, and I'd like voice and maybe videochat options.
Preferably, videochat would look like the briefings from starcraft, but I'm not picky.
Voice and video are gonna be hard to do in a web interface though.
Do you mean like Team Speak or Ventrilo for voice? Also years ago I used to play with yahoo chat, and they had both video and audio in their IM if I recall, but not sure about the rooms. Bandwidth for some of those might be an issue for some, but as long as there is separate text chat I suppose that will give those people an option.
Are we trying to do away with irc completely and move on to something else?
Quote from: rygD on December 16, 2009, 11:43:46 PM
Do you mean like Team Speak or Ventrilo for voice? Also years ago I used to play with yahoo chat, and they had both video and audio in their IM if I recall, but not sure about the rooms. Bandwidth for some of those might be an issue for some, but as long as there is separate text chat I suppose that will give those people an option.
Are we trying to do away with irc completely and move on to something else?
Most new software has voice and video.
Hell, even the fuckers at GLP have it.
Has to also be quite easy on bandwidth, else I would be unable to do chat at all.
i only had real trouble in the last couple days, and mibbit sucks balls anyway, its temperamental as fuck.
also my poor graphics card would probably die a death with video chat
I'll see how the laptop pans out after xmas tho...
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on December 17, 2009, 12:37:02 AM
i only had real trouble in the last couple days, and mibbit sucks balls anyway, its temperamental as fuck.
also my poor graphics card would probably die a death with video chat
I'll see how the laptop pans out after xmas tho...
Usually, voice/text is kept separate from video, and you can disable voice.
Chat? Voice, video?
Wait, are you people seriously asking for Stickam? :lulz: :lulz: I kid. But seriously, if you got something like that up and running that'd be awesome.
Would Google Wave be an option?
Quote from: LMNO on December 17, 2009, 01:26:56 PM
Would Google Wave be an option?
my shitty bandwidth dislikes google wave sometiems. Is it also still invite only?
Yes, but every person invited gets 10 invites themselves.
I hate Google, personally. I would like to see this Wave collapse--OH GOD THE PUN! I HAD TO, SORRY--really, fuck Google.
I haven't tried Wave, but I'm afraid it'll be really slow on my computer because of excessive Javascript crap, and of course not working in Opera. Cause that's what those Evil Google Bastards do.
Otherwise, if you think it's a good idea, I'm not stopping you. Maybe leering a littlebit.
yes irc has the bonus of having fuck all effect on most bandwidths/ processor speeds.
I dunno. Someone gave me an invite, and so now I have google wave, and it's just sitting there.
I tried using it as a communal real-time file sharing thing, but it won't upload the Audacity files I want to share.
My original thought was to host a communal file, so my musician friends could grab it and work on it, and then save it back where it was, sort of like a free shared folder. But no.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 03:53:57 PM
I hate Google, personally. I would like to see this Wave collapse--OH GOD THE PUN! I HAD TO, SORRY--really, fuck Google.
I haven't tried Wave, but I'm afraid it'll be really slow on my computer because of excessive Javascript crap, and of course not working in Opera. Cause that's what those Evil Google Bastards do.
Otherwise, if you think it's a good idea, I'm not stopping you. Maybe leering a littlebit.
I tried it. Not TOO slow but no, it doesn't work in opera.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 03:53:57 PM
I hate Google, personally. I would like to see this Wave collapse--OH GOD THE PUN! I HAD TO, SORRY--really, fuck Google.
I haven't tried Wave, but I'm afraid it'll be really slow on my computer because of excessive Javascript crap, and of course not working in Opera. Cause that's what those Evil Google Bastards do.
Otherwise, if you think it's a good idea, I'm not stopping you. Maybe leering a littlebit.
Regardless of how you feel about Google they are turning out some of the best open source devkits around and wave looks to be something that could really take off as a useful new communication medium.
Insisting that the software is crap because it doesn't run on a browser that no one actually uses (other than yourself and approx 3 other people in the world) isn't really enough to swing my opinion, tbh. I'll stick my neck on the line and say that Wave strikes me as something that will take off but don't take my word for it. When it does, someone will, no doubt write a clone that only works in Opera that no one will ever use and you and the other three Opera users will be able to pat each other on the back and proclaim how much better it is to the whole rest of the world.
The rest of the world will be too busy playing with the next big thing to give much of a toss.
That aside, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what the benefits of Wave are. It's kind of like a multifunctional, file-sharing chatroom, right?
Gimme an invite!
It's basically like convergence of pretty much all email, filesharing, chatroom, bulletin board, forum, whiteboard and social networking sites/softwares
I'm guessing it'll to away with the need to have a seperate blog, twitter, facebook, email account and forum. It's the next logical step.
PM me your email. I'll hook you up.
It's one of those things that will prolly take a bit of getting used to but, once the dust settles, collaborative projects like BIP and Intermittens should be much more straightforward to pull off but, over and above that, I think even the way we view and experience such projects will change dramatically. Kinda like the difference between a PDF and a WIKI multiplied exponentially
maybe. I'm just not really in a hurry to get there.
did I mention my dislike of Google?
000, do you know who the last person is that uses Opera?
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 11:57:55 PM
maybe. I'm just not really in a hurry to get there.
did I mention my dislike of Google?
No, you mentioned your hate for Google. Do you have dislike for Google, too? That's just greedy, man. :p
As much as I love to hate corporations such as Google, they seem to be doing many things I like. I do see how they can destroy privacy with their products and services, and how much they have expanded can seem somewhat threatening. Also their willingness to support censorship. I can understand why people hate Google, but at this time I just dislike them. I will still likely continue to use their products and services until I find a better alternative.
Quote from: rygD on December 18, 2009, 01:08:16 AM
I will still likely continue to use their products and services until they start charging for them.
Fixed for free shit.
If they started charging for it I would just steal it.
If they start charging to use their search engine...I can only imagine. Would be fun to see the reaction.
IMO google are a lot less shadey than M$ and I was more than happy to make a hell of a lot of money off the back of them back when there was no such thing as an open source alternative. Fact of the matter was - microsoft, for all the bugs and security flaws and overpriced licensing vendor lockin bullshit, got shit done. All the "Don't touch microsoft they are teh devill0rz" pussies never got that. They never got the fact that M$ shit installed no probs, the bits worked together and (where there was issues) they got fixed pretty quick. You know how much I give a fuck about how many babies had to die to make windows 98SE? None - fucking big fat 0. I haz house and car and dead babies of my own because of it and that's all that matters.
Now Google comes along and they're like less shadey than M$. Yeah, I know, so was the third reich, it's not really saying much but, hey, it's a improvement, given that I didn't give a fuck about running M$ but, get this - their stuff is all free. So now I can make even more moneys cos I don't have licensing overheads. Google = moar moneys and, as per usual, I don't care how many babies have to die to pay me it.
Principles cost money - Your welcome to them but I aint buying!
Quote from: LMNO on December 18, 2009, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: rygD on December 18, 2009, 01:08:16 AM
I will still likely continue to use their products and services until they start charging for them.
Fixed for free shit.
The stuff they charge for is stuff they've always charged for - I don't think Google have introduced a free service and then turned around and started asking money for it. Don't get me wrong - there are a lot of things that Google will happily charge you for - but they are in the advertising/marketing business and they seem pretty well aware that their current momentum is a result of maintaining great public relations.
Google has the potential to become more evil than anything Microsoft could ever possibly imagine, but the evidence weighed points heavily in the other direction. Of course, they might still Obama me for saying that.. but I really think we've entered an era where the mass ability for everyone to communicate and share information means that being demonstrably evil no longer makes
good business sense.
Or blog me.
If I was at all optimistic I'd take this opportunity to point out that Googles corporate motto is "Don't be evil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil)"
Of course I'm not optimistic, I'm pathologically cynical :evil: