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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 25, 2014, 08:20:32 PM
New job has elements of awesome.

For example, was passing the protests in Antwerp yesterday and saw people losing their shit in a most glorious fashion.

Then there was a puncture and a day of shit and delays, but like I said, elements of awesome.


I'm looking forward to next year to say the least.

Protests in Antwerp?
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

hooplala

Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.
Molon Lube

hooplala

Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.

Let's say 6 months, then.  Each role has 2 people filling it per year.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Junkenstein

Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.

Out of curiosity, during that 9 months how many opportunities for corruption would you say you were exposed to? The "minimal risk, won't get caught, everyone does it kind of shit"? Not implying that you did it in any fashion of course, I'm working on a thing.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 25, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.

Out of curiosity, during that 9 months how many opportunities for corruption would you say you were exposed to? The "minimal risk, won't get caught, everyone does it kind of shit"? Not implying that you did it in any fashion of course, I'm working on a thing.

If I had wanted to run a protection racket, there was precisely NOTHING stopping me.  Small town cops are worse than the mob.
Molon Lube

Junkenstein

Thought so, just good to have it confirmed.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

hooplala

Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 25, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.

Out of curiosity, during that 9 months how many opportunities for corruption would you say you were exposed to? The "minimal risk, won't get caught, everyone does it kind of shit"? Not implying that you did it in any fashion of course, I'm working on a thing.

If I had wanted to run a protection racket, there was precisely NOTHING stopping me.  Small town cops are worse than the mob.


Sounds like there isn't much difference.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Junkenstein

Levels of organisation and back end support, and unquestioning backup of larger force.

And a badge.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

hooplala

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 25, 2014, 08:42:18 PM
Levels of organisation and back end support, and unquestioning backup of larger force.

And a badge.

You forgot SWAT tanks.

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Although that is also true, look at the Stanford Prison experiment to see the tip of the iceberg of research into how roles change people's behavior.

Same guy went on to have a 45-year career studying what causes people to turn evil. Turns out, most evil is probably not perpetrated by evil people, but by people in situations which foster evil.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM
Politics and police forces are jobs people should be drafted in to. 

People who actually want those jobs should not be let within 100 feet of them.

Doesn't matter.  The job corrupts anyone who gets near it.

True.  Do you think it corrupts immediately?  I'd be in for there being a defined time limit one can work those jobs.

Had me being an asshole inside of 9 months.  Which is why I quit.

Let's say 6 months, then.  Each role has 2 people filling it per year.

Given the context in our society in which our police force exists, it would take two weeks for new draftees to be functionally corrupt.

At most.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Demolition Squid

A political lottery would also put more power in the hands of the bureaucrats - because those people would become the only ones who would have any experience of the system (and we would still need a system with checks and balances). Most people would probably defer to them as experts and advisors, with predictable results.
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho