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This Oregon gunman seems to be a piece of work

Started by Cain, October 02, 2015, 12:23:26 PM

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Cain

So, according to the BBC, he was a self-described "conservative Republican" who supported the IRA (note: Sinn Fein are democratic socialists) who used the handle "Ironcross45" on the internet frequently (for those of you unfamiliar with Nazi paripenalia, the Iron Cross was a military decoration given out by the Second German Reich and Nazis...I'm sure you can decode what the 45 refers to).

And to top it all off, he appears to have previously attended a school for people with behavioural problems.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Any word on the South Dakota issue?

Two school shootings in one day.  America is just showing off, now.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
In other words, a typical Oregon boy.

Portland as compared to the rest of Oregon is sort of like the Egyptian national museum surrounded by ISIS.  It boggles my mind that this sort of thing hasn't happened before.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Any word on the South Dakota issue?

Two school shootings in one day.  America is just showing off, now.

Not much.  I suspect due to his age there's a bit more restraint on digging into his personal life.  That or he just got overshadowed by events in Oregon. 

Found a Facebook page that is almost certainly, but there doesn't seem to be much past 2011 that is publically viewable.

Based on statements given by the school, it may have been personal.  It appears Buhl had broken some rule (unspecified) and was due to meet with the principal about it at the time the shooting occured.

Meunster

By god, he's /r9k/ and /pol/
The worse combination possible. 
Poe's law ;)

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
In other words, a typical Oregon boy.

Portland as compared to the rest of Oregon is sort of like the Egyptian national museum surrounded by ISIS.  It boggles my mind that this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

We had a mall shooter a couple of years ago.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
In other words, a typical Oregon boy.

Portland as compared to the rest of Oregon is sort of like the Egyptian national museum surrounded by ISIS.  It boggles my mind that this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

We had a mall shooter a couple of years ago.

Same thing, or just a maniac?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
In other words, a typical Oregon boy.

Portland as compared to the rest of Oregon is sort of like the Egyptian national museum surrounded by ISIS.  It boggles my mind that this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

We had a mall shooter a couple of years ago.

Same thing, or just a maniac?

I guess I'm failing to recognize the distinction between the two.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 07:24:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
In other words, a typical Oregon boy.

Portland as compared to the rest of Oregon is sort of like the Egyptian national museum surrounded by ISIS.  It boggles my mind that this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

We had a mall shooter a couple of years ago.

Same thing, or just a maniac?

I guess I'm failing to recognize the distinction between the two.

One thinks his beliefs justify violent action.

One thinks Barney Rubble is giving him instructions.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
Any word on the South Dakota issue?

Two school shootings in one day.  America is just showing off, now.

I had no idea there were two yesterday until just now. All eyes seemed to be on Oregon from what I was seeing last night, but that was my search criteria.
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The Good Reverend Roger

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=37552.msg1385758#msg1385758

I had a thought, in another thread.

And I fear that I am becoming prone to trying to think about the shooter's mental state, rather than howling for his blood like a proper American.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nast

That's the thing, I think. People don't want to think too hard about the mind of a killer, lest they find that they can actually empathize level with them on some level. It's easier, more comforting, to have villains and heroes, black and white.

And people don't want to think about how our society is an environment that keeps producing these people. Nope, easier to just listen to the talking heads argue about gun control and security in schools.
"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
And people don't want to think about how our society is an environment that keeps producing these people.

THAT SHIT.  RIGHT THERE.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: Nast on October 02, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
And people don't want to think about how our society is an environment that keeps producing these people.

THAT SHIT.  RIGHT THERE.
Yup!
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl