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I quit smoking today

Started by EK WAFFLR, February 01, 2013, 02:03:39 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: /b/earman on February 02, 2013, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 02, 2013, 01:40:10 AM
Quote from: /b/earman on February 01, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
I'll see if I find anything.  It was a friend of mine who used the E-Cig with little nicotine patches inside them he and his father used them  ,but then suddenly stopped because people were dying from them due to leakage. I haven't spoken to him in years.

They are known to leak. The only thing I found was a study by UC Riverside, referenced here:
 
http://newsroom.ucr.edu/2506

I can sum that article up in one sentence, which is "they often leak and we don't know if that might be dangerous". Absolutely nothing about anyone dying anywhere to be found.

I'm guessing they must have been scared by some random article like this on TV.
http://www.gizmag.com/study-finds-electronic-cigarettes-pose-health-risk/17206/

Almost certainly. Those are the kinds of things that ping my bullshit detector.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Pergamos

Quote from: Waffles, Viking Princess of Northern Belgium on February 02, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 02, 2013, 06:56:38 AM
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Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 01, 2013, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 01, 2013, 11:15:19 PM
I can understand them being illegal.  e-cigs are like the tobacco equivalent of hashish.  I'm not in favor of them being illegal, but I can see why legislators might choose to make that decision.

In what way are they "like the tobacco equivalent of hashish"?  :?

They're a device that you use to vaporize the distilled essence of tobacco.  I guess more of a hashpipe than hash itself.

I just involuntarily punched myself in the junk.

I hope you're fucking happy.

I think I'm proud.  I don't know if happy is the right word though.

I think the right word is stupid. As in "I said something pance shittingly dumb".

I've yet to have that demonstrated to me.

tyrannosaurus vex

QUICK FACT CHECK TIME!

Did you know ....
* The nicotine in e-cigarettes does not generally come from tobacco. That's why e-cigarettes are not regulated as "tobacco products."
* There is no "coolant" in an e-cigarette. There is only a battery, a vaporizor, and the liquid which is vaporized.
* PROPYLENE GLYCOL HOLY FUCK! That shit is deadly. That's why they'd never ever put it in ice cream, artificial sweeteners, frosting, soda, muffin mix, most beer, coffee, or salad dressing.*

Anyone who maintains a straight face while saying some stupid god damn thing like, "Herp, you should totally not use e-cigs to help you quit, because they MIGHT contain a COUPLE of things that HAVEN'T BEEN PROVEN 100% SAFE. You're better off sticking with actual smoke with countless known carcinogens," should probably be shot on sight.





* actually it is in all of those things.
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Malcolm

I got a nasty upper respiratory infection around the same time I switch to e-cigs. Not saying they caused it but they always left me with cotton mouth....and the goddamned battery would always die when I was away from the charger or it would run out of juice. I don't like that you can't tell how many pulls you have left one them either. I didn't have the greatest experience with them and really felt like I wasted 50 bucks.

Though I am down to under half a pack a day....so I guess they helped?

EK WAFFLR

Day three. Nicotine gum is horrible.
I manage to stay sane by killing things in SW:tOR.
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Cain

I didn't realise EA still kept the servers for that running.

EK WAFFLR

It's become Free-to-play, so I started playing.
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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EK WAFFLR

Also, I have spent HOURS figuring out the software and tweaking for making my voice sound like Soundwave from transformers.
4 hours of googling didn't help, so I called a pal, who's a sound engineer. took him ten minutes to figure it out. I R SMRT.

"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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Don Coyote

Quote from: Waffles, Viking Princess of Northern Belgium on February 03, 2013, 06:48:04 PM
Also, I have spent HOURS figuring out the software and tweaking for making my voice sound like Soundwave from transformers.
4 hours of googling didn't help, so I called a pal, who's a sound engineer. took him ten minutes to figure it out. I R SMRT.

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trippinprincezz13

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 01, 2013, 10:28:32 PM
Interesting article: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/6/fda-smoke-screen-on-e-cigarettes/

Very interesting, thanks!

If the FDA wants to put that much effort in trying to get them banned, might as well put that energy into conducting an actual study.
There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you, may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution.

If there is no order in your sexual life it may be difficult to stay with a whole skin.

P3nT4gR4m

#55
If you're thinking about e-fags I'd recommend trying the more expensive disposable versions initially (if the wallet can take the hit) there's a big difference in quality and taste between them all. Shop around, pick your favourite. I'm on menthol 10motives. Other menthols taste like fecking lime ie. shite. I buy a pack of 5 refils (about £5 ukbucks) and they last me all week. The batteries need replaced every couple of months but, overall I'm saving a fucking fortune.

*EDIT*

Correction: £6.99 - just over the cost of a 20-deck

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Elder Iptuous

wife and i went the e-cig route.  first ones we got were the ones at the general store that look like slightly oversized smokes with the cartridge.  it tasted like ass and it made me immediately congested.  we tried but they were thoroughly unfulfilling.  go out with friends and we'd hork on it a bit, but then break down and bum a regular smoke of a friend.

went out one night and met some guy that had this monstrous looking thing about 8 inches or so.  looks about like a hookah handle not attached to the tube/hookah.  he gave us a card to a local shop that sells them, and they don't use refill cartridges, but rather, the liquid is sold in the shop in bottles that you put in a resevoir.  they have about 100 different flavors that you can put in them.  some are horrible, others are like candy.
have had absolutely zero desire for a tobacco cigarette since i got it.  even when going out to a bar with friends.

further, since they mix it up in the shop, you request the specific amount of nicotine in the juice, by mg., and can step down as desired.  currently using about 1/3 of what i started with a few months ago.

feel so much better.

TL;DR  1 not all e-cigs are made equal. not by a long shot  2 see if you have one of these shops around you.  3 it's definitely worth the upfront cost (it was ~$50)

oh... specific brand i have is eGo-C

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
wife and i went the e-cig route.  first ones we got were the ones at the general store that look like slightly oversized smokes with the cartridge.  it tasted like ass and it made me immediately congested.  we tried but they were thoroughly unfulfilling.  go out with friends and we'd hork on it a bit, but then break down and bum a regular smoke of a friend.

went out one night and met some guy that had this monstrous looking thing about 8 inches or so.  looks about like a hookah handle not attached to the tube/hookah.  he gave us a card to a local shop that sells them, and they don't use refill cartridges, but rather, the liquid is sold in the shop in bottles that you put in a resevoir.  they have about 100 different flavors that you can put in them.  some are horrible, others are like candy.
have had absolutely zero desire for a tobacco cigarette since i got it.  even when going out to a bar with friends.

further, since they mix it up in the shop, you request the specific amount of nicotine in the juice, by mg., and can step down as desired.  currently using about 1/3 of what i started with a few months ago.

feel so much better.

TL;DR  1 not all e-cigs are made equal. not by a long shot  2 see if you have one of these shops around you.  3 it's definitely worth the upfront cost (it was ~$50)

oh... specific brand i have is eGo-C

:lmnuendo:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 04, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 01, 2013, 10:28:32 PM
Interesting article: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/6/fda-smoke-screen-on-e-cigarettes/

Very interesting, thanks!

If the FDA wants to put that much effort in trying to get them banned, might as well put that energy into conducting an actual study.

Yeah, you know how I have lots of trust in and good things to say about the CDC? I feel the exact opposite about the FDA. There's just too much evidence of corruption sneaking into their decisions about what gets approved and what gets banned.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


EK WAFFLR

EIGHT DAYS IN! I'm in a slightly better mood, but stillcranky as fuck all.


This is me, as Soundwave, stammering through a hirley0 post. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmx492keybyhnlg/testSoundwave2.mp3
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