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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: Cain on April 18, 2009, 02:42:23 PM

Title: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on April 18, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Knight

Katherine Mary Knight (born 24 October 1955) was the first Australian woman to be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. She was convicted of the murder of her de facto husband, John Charles Thomas Price (born 1956) in October 2001, and is currently detained in Mulawa Correctional Centre.

Price and Knight lived together in Aberdeen, in the New South Wales Hunter Valley. Price was the father of two grown-up children when Knight, a former abattoir worker, developed an acrimonious relationship with him.

According to the Apprehended Violence Order (AVO) that Price had filed against Knight, she had a previous history of violence in relationships: she had smashed the dentures of one of her ex-husbands, and slashed the throat of another husband's eight-week-old puppy before his eyes. Price had also received death threats from her on previous occasions.

On 29 February 2000, Knight stabbed Price to death with a butcher's knife while chasing him around their home. Her fury was reportedly triggered by the AVO Price had filed against her the previous week. The autopsy revealed that Price had been stabbed at least 37 times, in both the front and back of his body. Many of the wounds were deep and extended into vital organs. After Price was killed, Knight skinned him and hung his skin from a meat hook on the architrave of a door in their lounge room. She then decapitated him and placed the head in a pot on the stove, baked flesh from his buttocks, and prepared vegetables and gravy to serve as a meal to his children, which was accompanied by vindictive notes from Knight. Police found the meal before the children arrived home.

Knight was arraigned on 2 February 2001 on the charge of murdering Price, to which she entered a plea of not guilty. Her trial was initially fixed for 23 July 2001 but was adjourned due to her counsel's illness. It was re-fixed for 15 October 2001. Three days later she was formally charged with the murder, to which she entered a guilty plea.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Payne on April 18, 2009, 02:54:15 PM
That's quite harsh.

Can you imagine if he'd had an affair?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bruno on April 18, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
2/3 of him deserved it.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 18, 2009, 04:46:22 PM
Um.

Good morning to you too. I just woke up. To this thread. :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Pariah on April 18, 2009, 04:56:31 PM
Insanity Plea much?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Adios on April 18, 2009, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: The Pariah on April 18, 2009, 04:56:31 PM
Insanity Plea much?

As long as she is locked up for the rest of her life does it matter?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Pariah on April 18, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
Insane people get better food
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Adios on April 18, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: The Pariah on April 18, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
Insane people get better food

And drugs.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Pariah on April 18, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 18, 2009, 05:27:18 PM
um.

Burns,
Goes to tell his wife he loves her.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: wade on April 18, 2009, 05:32:04 PM
My cousin and I used to torment his little brother, little brother freaked the fuck out and finally gave us some of what we deserved, in return (again) my cousin, (the one I was helping torment his lil bro) grabbed a big fucking steak knife and started to chase around his lil bro...  It was scary...  I started to run away from him too.... :|

Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Honey on April 18, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Now that is one twisted sister!  Holy Shit, & she worked in a slaughterhouse too?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on April 18, 2009, 07:15:04 PM
Jesus Christ! That woman...there's just not a way to describe that level of crazy fucked-up-edness.  :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 18, 2009, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on April 18, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
2/3 of him deserved it.

:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz: :horrormirth:

Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: -Kel- on April 18, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
 :x :sadbanana:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Penumbral on April 18, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
This story is

-Now an empowering lifetime movie!-
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Jenne on April 19, 2009, 01:38:44 AM
Duuude.  She really did NOT like this guy.  Lizzie Borden eat your heart out...or this guy's asscheeks...either way.  Wowzers.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 19, 2009, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: Jenne on April 19, 2009, 01:38:44 AM
Duuude.  She really did NOT like this guy.  Lizzie Borden eat your heart out...or this guy's asscheeks...either way.  Wowzers.

who fuckin knows.  either way, i'm leavin the toilet seat down from now on.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2009, 02:14:54 AM
Quote from: Burns on April 19, 2009, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: Jenne on April 19, 2009, 01:38:44 AM
Duuude.  She really did NOT like this guy.  Lizzie Borden eat your heart out...or this guy's asscheeks...either way.  Wowzers.

who fuckin knows.  either way, i'm leavin the toilet seat down from now on.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on April 19, 2009, 05:32:14 PM
Another installment of nightmare fuel (if I have to suffer, so do you):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger

Oskar Dirlewanger (September 26, 1895 Würzburg - June 5, 1945 Altshausen) was a World War II officer with the Schutzstaffel (SS). He commanded the infamous SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger unit made out of amnestied Germans convicted of major crimes.

Oskar Dirlewanger was an infantry officer in World War I and won both the Iron Cross 2nd Class and the Iron Cross 1st Class.

After the end of war he joined different Freikorps and fought in the Ruhr Area, in Saxonia and in June 1921 in Upper Silesia. Between his militant employment he studied at the university in Frankfurt and in the year 1922 he attained a PhD in political science. He joined the NSDAP in 1923, but was eventually expelled. He rejoined years later, receiving Party #1,098,716. His eventual SS # was 357,267.

He held various jobs, which included working as a bank employee and teacher. In 1934 he was convicted of, among other things, the rape of a 13-year old BDM girl and molesting other underage girls, and he was sentenced to two years imprisonment. Dirlewanger then lost his job, his doctor title and all military honors. After transfer from the Ludwigsburg prison he was sent to the Welzheim concentration camp, which he was able to leave after intervention of his friend and later SS-Obergruppenführer Gottlob Berger.

He served in the Condor Legion in the Spanish Civil War from 1936 to 1939 and he was wounded three times. This helped redeem his reputation and with help of the Nazi party his Doctor title was restored by the University of Frankfurt.

At the beginning of the Second World War Dirlewanger volunteered for the Waffen SS and received the rank of Obersturmführer.

The idea for a military unit made up of convicted criminals was apparently because Heinrich Himmler thought that convicted criminals (starting with poachers) could be reformed and used as second line units on the eastern front against the partisans. However a lack of poachers meant that the division soon began accepting hardened career criminals, as well as Soviet Russian and Ukrainian POWs, members of the Wehrmacht convicted of "lesser" felony offenses, and eventually all German convicts (including rapists, child molesters, murderers, and those that had been committed to asylums for the criminally insane).

The battalion was assigned to anti-partisan duties first in occupied Poland (General Government), where Dirlewanger had previously served as a commandant of an SS labor camp for Jews in Dzików. In February 1942, it was reassigned for anti-partisan duties in Belarus. Dirlewanger was known to lead his soldiers into combat personally which was unusual for someone of his rank; he was wounded many times in combat. Dirlewanger received the clasp to his Iron Cross II on May 24, 1942, and that to his Iron Cross I on September 16, 1942, and received the German Cross in Gold on December 5, 1943, in recognition of his regiment's successes during this time, such as Operation Cottbus, which was the destruction out the partisan pseudo state Republic of Lake Pelik and a claimed body count of 15,000 dead partisans

Dirlewanger's primary patron in the SS hierarchy was Gottlob Berger, the head of the SS-Hauptamt. Berger provided Himmler with a massive political boost by numerically increasing the Waffen-SS through administrative means. Following an order signed by Berger in 1940, every active SS member would wear the same uniform and carry the same paybook as the professional SS soldiers. The blurring of the line between the camp guards and the Gestapo and the front-line soldiers pushed Himmler toward his ultimate goal — sole commander of Germany's armed forces. Given Berger's contribution to Himmler's ambitions, it is possible that Himmler allowed Berger a free hand. Both Berger and Himmler were enthusiastic about the incorporation into the Waffen-SS of the Kaminski Brigade, a unit made up of Soviet turncoats. Bronislaw Kaminski was executed by Germany for his unruly performance in Warsaw in 1944; Dirlewanger was however protected by Berger.

Dirlewanger's unit was employed in the fight against partisans in the occupied Soviet Union where they gained a reputation for extreme brutality, including indiscriminate murder of civilians of all gender and age, rape and other excesses, as well as widespread looting. Occasionally Dirlewanger's promoter and friend Gottlob Berger participated, and traveled from Berlin to visit him.

SS Judge and investigator Georg Konrad Morgen attempted to have Dirlewanger charged for war crimes, but was blocked by Heinrich Himmler.

Later, Dirlewanger's unit was used in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising at the specific request of Himmler, who was so deeply enraged at the continued resistance of the Warsaw Poles that he sought to utilize the unit's penchant for sadistic and bloodthirsty terrorism to quickly break the will of the remaining Polish fighters. By this stage in the unit's history, the brigade's ethos had become so degenerate and indiscriminate that Himmler was forced to detail several companies of military police to protect nearby German units and ensure the Dirlewanger men only targeted the Poles.[3] The unit was encouraged by Himmler to terrorize freely, take no prisoners, and generally indulge their perverse tendencies; favored tactics of the Dirlewanger men during the siege reportedly included the ubiquitous gang rape of female Poles (both women and children), playing "bayonet catch" with live babies, and torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms, dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and flaming down the street. The Dirlewanger brigade committed almost nonstop atrocities during this period, (in particular the four-day Wola massacre), for which Dirlewanger and his superior Erich von dem Bach were awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross on September 30, 1944.

Dirlewanger received his final promotion, to SS-Oberführer der Reserve, on August 15, 1944. On February 15, 1945, he was seriously injured in combat for the 12th time and sent to the rear.

On June 1, 1945, French occupation forces used Polish soldiers in their service to forcibly bring him to the Altshausen jail. Dirlewanger was beaten and tortured over the next few days. He died from injuries inflicted by the Polish guards around June 5, 1945. This information was suppressed at the time, and many bogus sightings of him were made around the world, even though the French recorded that Dirlewanger was buried on June 19, 1945, leaving little doubt that he was dead.

Other rumors surfaced years later to suggest that he had escaped, including one story of Dirlewanger serving in the French Foreign Legion, and later defecting to Egypt to accept a commission in Gamal Abdel Nasser's army. These were proven false when a French court arranged the exhumation of his corpse to confirm his identity in November 1960.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Payne on April 19, 2009, 05:44:10 PM
Jesus Fuck.

(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_mad.gif)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Jenne on April 19, 2009, 08:33:17 PM
Woof.  Who needs Hollywood for gruesome tales?  Yikes.  Stories like this is why it's easy to tell a child, "It's the humans who are the monsters, Honey..."
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rumckle on April 20, 2009, 09:00:11 AM
 :argh!:

Damn You Cain!!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on April 20, 2009, 08:39:32 PM
Holy shit!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Richter on April 20, 2009, 08:50:01 PM
SHIEST.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 20, 2009, 08:55:47 PM
Ok, all of that is horrific... but this one but made me  :lulz:  just slightly, due to the imagery.
Quoteand torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms, dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and flaming down the street.

Does that make me a bad person?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Richter on April 20, 2009, 09:10:30 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on April 20, 2009, 08:55:47 PM
Ok, all of that is horrific... but this one but made me  :lulz:  just slightly, due to the imagery.
Quoteand torturing captives to death by hacking off their arms, dousing them with gasoline, and setting them alight to run armless and flaming down the street.

Does that make me a bad person?

Yes.  It makes you a horrible monster.  The fact that no deity has stricken you from the face of this planet is proof that there is no kind and loving god to save the good people of this earth from the sadistic savagery you get kicks from.

I chuckled too.  It's too much like that part in "Red Dragon" with the tabloid writer on fire in the wheelchair :lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 20, 2009, 10:38:09 PM
Someone killing somone else always disgusts me, right up to the point where the killing is either on such a scale or of such brutality that it somehow crosses over into "impressive".

Still disgusting but with added awe.

I realise this is a back to front perspective - someone killing a thousand people with a chainsaw should be a lot worse than a crackhead sticking a knife in one guy but for some reason it just doesn't sit that way in my head :|
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 20, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/  <--not mind-safe
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: bds on April 20, 2009, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 20, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/  <--not mind-safe

"When I was 19 weeks pregnant, I was told that my baby had no brain."



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Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Richter on April 21, 2009, 12:09:02 AM
 :x :sad:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 21, 2009, 12:18:07 AM
I watched one of the videos.   :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: bds on April 21, 2009, 12:19:54 AM
I don't dare. I skimmed through the first and last posts then bailed. :x :x :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 21, 2009, 12:21:10 AM
She poked it and it twitched.  That is all.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 21, 2009, 05:41:30 AM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 21, 2009, 12:21:10 AM
She poked it and it twitched.  That is all.
:x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on April 21, 2009, 06:46:44 AM
Interesting...
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on April 21, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
You are a serial killer.  You have broken into a family home and tied everyone up.  You are now in the kitchen, looking for suitable torture implements.  At first, you consider the old faithful, the knives, but you decide to search the drawers.  You find this:

(http://pics.livejournal.com/ishara/pic/0002x3s0)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rumckle on April 21, 2009, 02:19:19 PM
 :x

Why do I even look at this thread?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 21, 2009, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 20, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/  <--not mind-safe

Wow, that poor mother.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 21, 2009, 03:25:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 21, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
You are a serial killer.  You have broken into a family home and tied everyone up.  You are now in the kitchen, looking for suitable torture implements.  At first, you consider the old faithful, the knives, but you decide to search the drawers.  You find this:

(http://pics.livejournal.com/ishara/pic/0002x3s0)


(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/Smileys/default/horrormirth3copy.png)


Why does that even exist?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2009, 11:42:04 PM
(http://www.umutsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/014.jpg)

Sleep well tonight.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 05, 2009, 01:48:40 AM
Black: In your songs, you spend most of your time in cars and beds —- you appear to be relatively fond of leather...
Morrissey: I certainly do, yes.
Black: Aren't these relatively sexual ambients?
Morrissey: They certainly are. You're on the right track now. Next question.
Black: No. Tell me about cars. Aren't cars very male?
Morrissey: They are, but I'm afraid we all have our idiosyncracies, and one of mine... as a child of the sixties, when the seats of cars were made entirely of leather, to me there was something highly erotic about actually being in a car... I've always found cars highly erotic.
Black: Why? Because they go vroom vroom, and you can switch them on and switch them off when you want?
Morrissey: No, no —- not the driver's seat... there was just something about the old leather seats...
Black: So you're into leather?
Morrissey: Y-y-e... next question.

Morrissey interviewed by Antonella Black, Zig Zag, May 1985
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on May 05, 2009, 02:18:51 AM
...Why is this nightmare fuel?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 05, 2009, 02:21:40 AM
Because from now on, whenever you hear a Morrissey song or see a video where leather makes an appearance, you are going to think of him getting turned on by it. Forever.  And you'll never be able to unknow it.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on May 05, 2009, 03:21:40 AM
 :lulz:
If you say so.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dysnomia on May 05, 2009, 06:36:21 AM
SHITFUCKDAMN


Excuse me while I go wash my brain out with soap...


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Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cetaphobia on May 05, 2009, 07:41:55 AM
This thread is awful, probably in the best way, but I'm too busy wanting to set my brain in scalding water to know for sure.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dysnomia on May 06, 2009, 02:59:43 AM
set your brain on fire, it works better.


Dysnomia,
knows from experience... :sad:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 06, 2009, 10:25:30 AM
So, who's heard of teratoma's?  No?  Well, while you go Wiki, I'll cut through the crap and bring you the straight facts.

Essentially, a teratoma is a very special kind of tumour.  However, unlike other, more cancerous tumours you may know of, this has a far more interesting cause.  Essentially, these are the things that result when an embryo starts growing within its twin but then dies, causing the remaining twin to later have a tumor with hair, teeth, nails, bones, and sometimes even hands or eyeballs. And they can keep growing so that people don't really notice them until adulthood.

Just imagine having a third eye somewhere on your body.  Or worse, being the trainee surgeon who opens the tumour to find it staring back at him.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on May 06, 2009, 05:04:00 PM
I'm sorry, but I think that's hilarious. Freakish, but still funny.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 06, 2009, 05:14:27 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MhRRZn0fCOQ/SEQzdt30w0I/AAAAAAAAAk4/QAbjv-4OSRI/s400/south+park+conjoined+fetus+lady.jpg)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Zenpeanut on May 06, 2009, 05:36:56 PM
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq251/Zenpeanut/parasite-wallpaper.jpg)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Novatore on May 06, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
how to get a head in advertising
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: AFK on May 06, 2009, 05:47:45 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/RWHN/rwhnsealdisapprovalxu2.jpg)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Novatore on May 06, 2009, 06:09:57 PM
not my fault you didnt like the movie  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bu🤠ns on May 16, 2009, 05:07:41 PM
QUAAAIIIIIID!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: minuspace on May 17, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
I suck teratoma pop in the morning.... w/ coffee ground from your ancestor;s egg flesh rot
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: fomenter on May 17, 2009, 12:16:15 AM
Quote from: minuspace on May 17, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
I suck turds out of hobos unwashed asses in the mornings and type them out  in forums in the afternoon
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2009, 05:18:39 AM
Quote from: minuspace on May 17, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
I suck teratoma pop in the morning.... w/ coffee ground from your ancestor;s egg flesh rot


http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Pinealist
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 17, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(usage) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(usage))
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: chaoflux on May 17, 2009, 05:05:00 PM
http://www.femskin.com/
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2009, 05:26:16 PM
This page is my favorite!

http://www.femskin.com/indexsample.htm
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: fomenter on May 17, 2009, 09:12:09 PM
buffalo bill was just ahead of his time..
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Triple Zero on May 17, 2009, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 17, 2009, 05:26:16 PM
This page is my favorite!

http://www.femskin.com/indexsample.htm

I dunno why, but I think that's pretty awesome :? Not for me, but I'm just happy that for guys that want this, this sort of stuff exists, and it looks pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on May 18, 2009, 03:51:30 AM
That's actually pretty neat. Some of it's a bit obviously not skin, but most of it looks grade A.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: chaoflux on May 18, 2009, 05:50:28 AM
(http://www.femskin.com/PeeTrap.png)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Nast on May 18, 2009, 05:52:49 AM
A sober reminder that it's only a matter of years before one is old and incontinent.  :sad:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2009, 09:16:44 PM
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/05/18/father-high-on-pcp-e.html

QuoteA man in Bakersfield, California got high on PCP and ate his son's eyeballs out. Then the father attempted to hack his own legs off with an axe. The boy's mother, also a PCP user, came to the door just before the attack to deliver a pizza to their home, heard her son screaming for her to rescue him, but left anyway. We don't have a metadata tag that fits this story. It's been haunting me for days since I read it, even in dreams, which is why I'm finally blogging it now. Does PCP turn people into monsters, or do monsters simply turn to PCP? I can't figure it out. My god, that poor child.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 19, 2009, 12:12:44 AM
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Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dedalus on May 19, 2009, 12:18:50 AM
That's simply horrid.   :cry:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Suu on May 19, 2009, 12:29:09 AM
Holy fuck.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Jenne on May 19, 2009, 12:29:50 AM
Yeah, there's just no words for that.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 19, 2009, 12:57:59 AM
 :vom:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Nast on May 19, 2009, 06:30:16 AM
Wow, really?

Wow.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on May 19, 2009, 06:47:06 AM
Oh god.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 19, 2009, 06:49:58 AM
Waaaah! :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2009, 09:57:11 AM
The Boing-Boing link itself links to more stories about this.  Other details include the fact the child is 4 years old, and that his right eye was still in the socket when it was damaged (that they mention nothing about the left eye...well, the implication is pretty clear).
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Triple Zero on May 19, 2009, 11:30:15 AM
I'm just going to pretend somebody made this up and continue to live, not in happy rainbow fart land, but, well, it's far away and it didnt happen, please?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
Hey, anybody want to do some PCP?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cramulus on May 19, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/roflbot-ehux.jpg)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dedalus on May 19, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 19, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
Hey, anybody want to do some PCP?
oh no!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on May 19, 2009, 06:39:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 19, 2009, 09:57:11 AM
The Boing-Boing link itself links to more stories about this.  Other details include the fact the child is 4 years old, and that his right eye was still in the socket when it was damaged (that they mention nothing about the left eye...well, the implication is pretty clear).

His left eye and the muscles that control it were both completely gone.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Yeah.  I thought that may have been the case, but hadn't seen any news confirmation of the fact.  Then again, I haven't been exactly looking for it today...
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2009, 04:57:58 PM
Sometimes I wish there was an "ignore thread" button so I wouldn't keep accidentally clicking on this one, because I'm an idiot and don't look at thread titles before I open them.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2009, 05:26:09 PM
Opera > Tools > Advanced > Blocked Content, Add, "http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=20586*"

in other browsers, I dunno.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2009, 08:02:26 PM
Thanks! It turns out it is ridiculously convoluted with Firefox, and I would have to enable parental controls in order to do it. :(
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Jenne on June 17, 2009, 09:39:06 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124511648024217217.html?mod=sphere_ts&mod=sphere_wd

QuoteShin Dong-Hyok may be the only person to have escaped from a kwan li so camp. Mr. Shin, now in his mid-20s and living in Seoul, was born and spent the first 22 years of his life in Camp No. 14, a so-called total control facility. In an interview at The Wall Street Journal's headquarters in New York last year, Mr. Shin spoke of growing up. His formal education was limited to the rudiments of reading and writing. Because political prisoners are usually incarcerated for life, the camps don't bother with political re-education; Mr. Shin said he didn't even know who Kim Jong Il was until after his escape. Nor did he understand the concept of money until, after his escape, he walked through a market and noticed bits of colored paper being exchanged for food.

At 12 or 13 -- he is unsure of the year in which he was born -- he was forced to watch the executions of his mother, who was hanged, and his brother, who was shot. They had attempted to escape. Hoping to pry information out of him -- Mr. Shin had none -- camp officials bound the boy's hands and feet, embedded a hook in his groin and dangled him over a fire. In the Journal's conference room, Mr. Shin pulled up a leg of his trousers to show me the scars.

Mr. Shin survived thanks to the kindness of a fellow prisoner, a former government official who had run afoul of the regime. They plotted a route to China -- a country Mr. Shin had never heard of -- but his friend was electrocuted on the wire that surrounded the camp. Mr. Shin literally crawled over his body to freedom.

Incredibly, he made his way to the border and on to Shanghai, where he climbed over the wall of the South Korean consulate. In 2005, the Chinese government permitted Mr. Shin to go to Seoul.

North Korea hasn't said where Ms. Lee and Ms. Ling will be incarcerated. It's possible that they will receive more favorable treatment than ordinary prisoners, especially if the North wants to use them for propaganda purposes.

In the epilogue to "The Aquariums of Pyongyang," his 2000 book about growing up in the infamous Yodok prison camp, Kang Chol-Hwan expresses his anger at the world's indifference to the human-rights abuses in the North. "We're told that this debate would be better left until another day," he writes. "But by then we'll all be dead."

I was going to comment, but damn, I think I'll just leave this here.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on June 17, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
It's a damn shame North Korea doesn't have lots of oil.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Template on June 17, 2009, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on June 17, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
It's a damn shame North Korea doesn't have lots of oil.

We just need a Reliable Source or two to assert it.

Perhaps:  http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=21142.0
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2009, 04:32:41 AM
That eyeball eating PCP daddy is the reason i am on this forum.  It's the thread that Rev. WHN and i really got into it over drug legalization.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on July 08, 2009, 05:16:09 PM
Fijian history:

"October 31st, 1839, Thursday. This morning we witnessed a shocking spectacle. Twenty (20) dead bodies of men, women and children were brought to Rewa as a present from Tanoa. They were distributed among the people to be cooked and eaten. They were dragged about in the water and on the beach. The children amused themselves by sporting with and mutilating the body of a little girl. A crowd of men and women maltreated the body of a gray-haired old man and that of a young woman. Human entrails were floating down the river in front of the mission premises.  About 30 living children were hoisted up to the mastheads as flags of triumph. The motion of the canoes while sailing soon killed the helpless creatures and silenced their piercing cries.""
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on July 08, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
FUCK.  :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: The Wizard on July 08, 2009, 06:54:23 PM
H0ly mother of god.  :| Admittedly though, most of this shit doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: The Wizard on July 08, 2009, 06:56:06 PM
We're a sick, twisted, species. Fuck horror novels; I read non-fiction.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: LMNO on July 08, 2009, 07:02:42 PM
Considering the summary of human nature and sadism I'm currently finishing up, this is an interesting addition, as it preceeds most major technological advancement in the culture.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2009, 07:04:36 PM
Yeah, I read this before.

So much for the noble savage.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Richter on July 08, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 08, 2009, 07:02:42 PM
Considering the summary of human nature and sadism I'm currently finishing up, this is an interesting addition, as it preceeds most major technological advancement in the culture.

Title / Author?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: LMNO on July 08, 2009, 08:02:53 PM
As always, "The Mass Psychology of Fascism," by Wilhelm Reich.

I'm almost finished, I promise.

I'm also typing up key excerpts.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Template on July 08, 2009, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2009, 07:04:36 PM
So much for the noble savage.

The Noble Savage was just another era's name for our Black Swan.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on July 09, 2009, 02:57:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2009, 07:04:36 PM
Yeah, I read this before.

So much for the noble savage.

Before the noble savage there was the godless cannibal.  Both of them are arguably constructed for ulterior purposes.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rumckle on July 09, 2009, 07:20:14 AM
Thanks Cain, I've been sleeping too well lately  :D
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 13, 2009, 07:07:22 AM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 09, 2009, 02:57:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2009, 07:04:36 PM
Yeah, I read this before.

So much for the noble savage.

Before the noble savage there was the godless cannibal.  Both of them are arguably constructed for ulterior purposes.

This.

People are people.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
From my current reading, the delightful American Torture by Michael Otterman:

We wrapped det [detonator] cord around [prisoners'] necks and wired them to the detonator box. And basically what it did was blow their heads off. The interrogator would tell the translator, usually a South Vietnamese intelligence officer, 'Ask him this.' He'd ask him, 'Who gave you the gun?' And the guy would start to answer, or maybe he wouldn't—maybe he'd resist—but the general idea was to waste the first two. They planned the snatches that way. Pick up this guy because we're pretty sure he's VC cadre—these other two guys just run errands for him. Or maybe they're nobody; Tran, the farmer, and his brother Nguyen. But bring in two. Put them in a row. By the time you get to your man, he's talking so fast you got to pop the weasel just to shut him up. I guess you could say that we wrote the book on terror.
- page 63

A popular saying of the CIA-trained interrogators was  Khong, danh cho co — 'If they are innocent, beat them until they become guilty'. According to emergency laws formulated with the help of the CIA in  Saigon, prisoners could be held for up to forty-six days at the PIC without charge. US Representative to Congress Paul McCloskey, who spoke to a PIC adviser while investigating Phoenix abuses, later recounted, 'When I asked an American pacifi  cation  officer if the 46-day period of interrogation was not reasonable, he replied, "We've
never had to interrogate anyone for 46 days—they've all broken and  confessed in 30 days"'.
- page 68 (also, this puts a very interesting spin on the continual UK attempts to increase its detention without charge laws, doesn't it?)

I have seen blind-folded men, their hands tied behind them, thrown out of helicopters—the helicopter was only three feet off the ground, but the blind-folded men couldn't know that. They would collapse in shivering heaps when they hit the ground, and often would have to be dragged away from  the helicopter so it could land. I have watched while these same men, still blind-folded and tied, were made to run down a steep hill, at the bottom of which were three rows of concertina barbed wire. The first row would hit them across the knees and they would plunge head first into the second and third rows of wire. They lie there until they are dragged out and sent skidding down another hill, at the bottom of which there is not barbed wire—their only defense is to collapse into a shivering heap on the ground—but that is sure to earn a few kicks and orders, given in English, to stand up if they want the kicks to stop.
- page 69

Two agency doctors and one private physician went to Vietnam in order to see whether a person's ideological views can be transformed
via painful shocks—a hypothesis seemingly inspired by the work of Dr Cameron. For several weeks they experimented extensively on VC prisoners housed in a high-walled and heavily guarded area of the Bien Hoa Hospital in Saigon. According to Dr Lloyd Cotter, one of the CIA doctors present, Vietcong prisoners were selected because they were 'typical cases of communist indoctrination'.  The trials consisted of massive quantities of electro-shocks. One VC soldier was strapped to a table and shocked six times every twelve hours. After seven days of this treatment, the man died. Later, Dr Cotter recalled that he administered more than 'several thousand shock treatments' during his time at the hospital. After three weeks, all of the VC prisoners were dead and the Americans flew home.
- page 70

Also at the hearings, Kenneth Barton Osborn, an Army military intelligence (MI) officer who worked with Phoenix in 1967–68, described the horrors he observed at the PICs. He described 'the use of electronic gear such as sealed telephones attached to the genitals' of both men and women '[to] shock them into submission'. Osborn added that he observed the murders of two suspected VCI members.  He recalled:

the insertion of the 6-inch dowel into the 6-inch ear canal of one of my detainee's ears and the tapping through the brain until he dies. The starving to death of a Vietnamese woman who was suspected of being part of the local [VC] political education cadre in one of the local villages. They simply starved her to death in a cage that they kept in one of the hooches at that very counterintelligence team headquarters.

Osborn testified that not a single VC suspect survived an interrogation under his supervision during his eighteen months in Phoenix.
For Osborn, Phoenix was a 'categorically inhuman ... murder program'.
- page 72
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 22, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
And here everyone gets upset over Mai Lai.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Corvidia on August 22, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
 :vom:
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
the insertion of the 6-inch dowel into the 6-inch ear canal of one of my detainee's ears and the tapping through the brain until he dies.
:x :x :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on August 23, 2009, 12:04:41 AM
I need to stay away from this thread.  :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on February 07, 2010, 07:25:04 PM
From a 1976 UN report into the Nazi cult at Colonia Dignidad (which I will be discussing at length in an upcoming piece on fascism in South America):

QuoteIn Colonia Dignidad, prisoners have allegedly been subjected to different "experiments" without any interrogation: to dogs trained to commit sexual aggressions and destroy sexual organs of both sexes.

QuoteThe detainees heads are covered with leather hoods which are stuck to their faces with substances that are supposedly chemicals.  In these [underground] cells, interrogations are carried out through electronic equipment, including loudspeakers and microphones, while detainees are tied naked to metal frames to recieve electric shocks.

The leader of the Colony is one Paul Schafer, a committed Nazi of uncertain background (his military record is lost), who is uncommonly fond of small children, mind-altering drugs and hideous experiments aimed at creating the perfect torture technique.

This system described above was set-up by the American terrorist Michael Townley, by the way, a former CIA agent, who despite being convicted for assassinations around the globe, currently lives quite comfortably in the federal witness system.  Presumably this is due to fears that further investigations of his activities in Chile might unearth exactly who was bankrolling Colonia Dignidad (lots of cash came in from America), and because he forms a definite link between the American intelligence community and Operation Gladio.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Nast on February 07, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
Holy shit, I once watched a documentary in Spanish class that mentioned that place. It painted it as a quaint folk village, not some sort of horrible torture cult compound.
I had no idea.  :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: E.O.T. on February 07, 2010, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 08, 2009, 08:02:53 PM
As always, "The Mass Psychology of Fascism," by Wilhelm Reich.

I'm almost finished, I promise.

I'm also typing up key excerpts.

HAVE

          You built an accumulator, or ever gotten an extended chance to try one?

DOES

          Reich work his orgasm theory into mass psychology?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on February 07, 2010, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: Nast on February 07, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
Holy shit, I once watched a documentary in Spanish class that mentioned that place. It painted it as a quaint folk village, not some sort of horrible torture cult compound.
I had no idea.  :x

Oh wow.  That's a fairly major mistake, yeah.  It is quaint, since Schafer ran the place as a cult, so no TV, no newspapers, no radio etc, all the architectural styles in German, all the clothes based on designs from the 1940s etc.  It has become more open since Schafer fled, but exactly how open is subject to debate.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on February 08, 2010, 09:01:51 AM
No, this was in Chile.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Pariah on February 08, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 07, 2010, 07:25:04 PM
The leader of the Colony is one Paul Schafer, a committed Nazi of uncertain background (his military record is lost), who is uncommonly fond of small children, mind-altering drugs and hideous experiments aimed at creating the perfect torture technique.

(http://www.mavromatic.com/images/hdtv/lm-sd3.jpg)

Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on February 08, 2010, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 08, 2010, 11:41:42 AM
:lol: geography is not my freind.

ah well in that case:

QuoteA Spanish art historian has uncovered what was alleged to be the first use of modern art as a deliberate form of torture, with the discovery that mind-bending prison cells were built by anarchist artists 65 years ago during the country's bloody civil war.

Bauhaus artists such as Kandinsky, Klee and Itten, as well as the surrealist film-maker Luis Bunuel and his friend Salvador Dali, were said to be the inspiration behind a series of secret cells and torture centres built in Barcelona and elsewhere, yesterday's El Pais newspaper reported.

Most were the work of an enthusiastic French anarchist, Alphonse Laurencic, who invented a form of "psychotechnic" torture, according to the research of the historian Jose Milicua.

Mr Milicua's information came from a written account of Laurencic's trial before a Francoist military tribunal. That 1939 account was written by a man called R L Chacon who, like anybody allowed to publish by the newly installed dictatorship, could not have been expected to feel any sympathy for what Nazi Germany had already denounced as "degenerative art".

Laurencic, who claimed to be a painter and conductor in civilian life, created his so-called "coloured cells" as a contribution to the fight against General Franco's rightwing rebel forces.

They may also have been used to house members of other leftwing factions battling for power with the anarchist National Confederation of Workers, to which Laurencic belonged.

Hidden

The cells, built in 1938 and reportedly hidden from foreign journalists who visited the makeshift jails on Vallmajor and Saragossa streets, were as inspired by ideas of geometric abstraction and surrealism as they were by avant garde art theories on the psychological properties of colours.

Beds were placed at a 20 degree angle, making them near-impossible to sleep on, and the floors of the 6ft by 3ft cells was scattered with bricks and other geometric blocks to prevent prisoners from walking backwards and forwards, according to the account of Laurencic's trial.

The only option left to prisoners was staring at the walls, which were curved and covered with mind-altering patterns of cubes, squares, straight lines and spirals which utilised tricks of colour, perspective and scale to cause mental confusion and distress.

Lighting effects gave the impression that the dizzying patterns on the wall were moving.

A stone bench was similarly designed to send a prisoner sliding to the floor when he or she sat down, Mr Milicua said. Some cells were painted with tar so that they would warm up in the sun and produce asphyxiating heat.

Laurencic told the military court that he had been commissioned to build the cells by an anarchist leader who had heard of similar ones used elsewhere in the republican zone during the civil war, possibly in Valencia.

Mr Milicua has claimed that Laurencic preferred to use the colour green because, according to his theory of the psychological effects of various colours, it produced melancholy and sadness in prisoners.

But it appears that Barcelona was not the only place where avant garde art was used to torture Franco's supporters.

According to the prosecutors who put Laurencic on trial in 1939, a jail in Murcia in south-east Spain forced prisoners to view the infamously disturbing scene from Dali and Bunuel's film Un Chien Andalou, in which an eyeball is sliced open.

El Pais commented: "The avant garde forms of the moment - surrealism and geometric abstraction - were thus used for the aim of committing psychological torture.

"The creators of such revolutionary and liberating [artistic] languages could never have imagined that they would be so intrinsically linked to repression."



Wow, thats pretty fucked up.  But not entirely unexpected.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2010, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 08, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 07, 2010, 07:25:04 PM
The leader of the Colony is one Paul Schafer, a committed Nazi of uncertain background (his military record is lost), who is uncommonly fond of small children, mind-altering drugs and hideous experiments aimed at creating the perfect torture technique.

(http://www.mavromatic.com/images/hdtv/lm-sd3.jpg)



Oh HOLY SHIT! :mittens:  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on April 07, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysqh1uzqGrc
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 07, 2010, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Liam Stoat on February 18, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Animal Crossing/   :x

Is that LP really that bad? O.o

*afraid to watch*
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: on April 07, 2010, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on April 07, 2010, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Liam Stoat on February 18, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Animal Crossing/   :x

Is that LP really that bad? O.o

*afraid to watch*

Normally lets play is just gameplay footage of weird video games... this isn't, its just screenshots of Animal crossing used as the skeleton for a bizarre kidnapping story.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 07, 2010, 08:36:05 PM
Quote from: Z³ on April 07, 2010, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on April 07, 2010, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Liam Stoat on February 18, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Animal Crossing/   :x

Is that LP really that bad? O.o

*afraid to watch*

Normally lets play is just gameplay footage of weird video games... this isn't, its just screenshots of Animal crossing used as the skeleton for a bizarre kidnapping story.

God that was fucked up.  :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 28, 2010, 11:26:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsL_5bovozE

Creepy as fuck. Do not watch when sleep deprived.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 28, 2010, 11:32:37 AM
Quote from: Kai on April 28, 2010, 11:26:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsL_5bovozE

Creepy as fuck. Do not watch when sleep deprived.

Not only am I sleep deprived, but I'm all alone.

My girl and baby are out of town.

So far I've shat my pants once, still watching...

ETA: Not bad, a few hairs on the back of my neck are still sticking up.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 28, 2010, 11:59:08 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 28, 2010, 11:32:37 AM
Quote from: Kai on April 28, 2010, 11:26:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsL_5bovozE

Creepy as fuck. Do not watch when sleep deprived.

Not only am I sleep deprived, but I'm all alone.

My girl and baby are out of town.

So far I've shat my pants once, still watching...

ETA: Not bad, a few hairs on the back of my neck are still sticking up.

Yeah, they really nailed the Zalgo Effect on this one. Slow decay of normality into horror.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dysnomia on April 28, 2010, 04:17:28 PM
I jumped a couple times.

:x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on April 28, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
Meh, the only good part was the little girl at the beginning.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on April 30, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Incestuous-Grandmother-Pearl-Carter-Having-Baby-With-Grandson-Phil-Bailey-In-Indiana-USA/Article/201004415623115?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15623115_Incestuous_Grandmother_Pearl_Carter_Having_Baby_With_Grandson_Phil_Bailey_In_Indiana,_USA
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 30, 2010, 08:49:15 PM
Quote from: Vladimir Poopin on April 30, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Incestuous-Grandmother-Pearl-Carter-Having-Baby-With-Grandson-Phil-Bailey-In-Indiana-USA/Article/201004415623115?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15623115_Incestuous_Grandmother_Pearl_Carter_Having_Baby_With_Grandson_Phil_Bailey_In_Indiana,_USA

:vom:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
Actually, the only thing that bothers me about that is the kid is gonna be raised by a single parent when the 72 year old kicks the bucket in several years.

Otherwise, why should I give a fuck about what consenting adults do with each other? At least they aren't inbreeding.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 30, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
Actually, the only thing that bothers me about that is the kid is gonna be raised by a single parent when the 72 year old kicks the bucket in several years.

Otherwise, why should I give a fuck about what consenting adults do with each other? At least they aren't inbreeding.

Oh, I'm not advocating anyone intervene. I respect consenting adults rights to do things I find simultaneously amusing and disgusting (we need an emote for this, I think) to one another.

It's just this NSFW image (http://imgur.com/nttEH.jpg) that Vlad made me recall.

And also this NSFW website. (http://thatsnotsexy.com/)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on April 30, 2010, 09:15:26 PM
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
Actually, the only thing that bothers me about that is the kid is gonna be raised by a single parent when the 72 year old kicks the bucket in several years.

Otherwise, why should I give a fuck about what consenting adults do with each other? At least they aren't inbreeding.

Yeah, my first thought was damn does she realize she will be 90 when this kid graduates if she's even still alive?  

I mean it's kind of gross to think about it, but the only people they are hurting is themselves.  
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 30, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
Actually, the only thing that bothers me about that is the kid is gonna be raised by a single parent when the 72 year old kicks the bucket in several years.

Otherwise, why should I give a fuck about what consenting adults do with each other? At least they aren't inbreeding.

Oh, I'm not advocating anyone intervene. I respect consenting adults rights to do things I find simultaneously amusing and disgusting (we need an emote for this, I think) to one another.

It's just this NSFW image (http://imgur.com/nttEH.jpg) that Vlad made me recall.

And also this NSFW website. (http://thatsnotsexy.com/)

Holy shit to that last one.  :lulz: So many wrinkles.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 01, 2010, 07:44:51 AM
Quote from: Vladimir Poopin on April 30, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Incestuous-Grandmother-Pearl-Carter-Having-Baby-With-Grandson-Phil-Bailey-In-Indiana-USA/Article/201004415623115?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15623115_Incestuous_Grandmother_Pearl_Carter_Having_Baby_With_Grandson_Phil_Bailey_In_Indiana,_USA
I call bullshit. There is no way in hell that those people have $54,000 to give to a surrogate mother.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Kai on April 30, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
Actually, the only thing that bothers me about that is the kid is gonna be raised by a single parent when the 72 year old kicks the bucket in several years.

Otherwise, why should I give a fuck about what consenting adults do with each other? At least they aren't inbreeding.

Single parents aren't as awful as they're made out to be.

Also, I could not stop giggling at that article. It should have been far more disturbing but I think my disturbed gland may have burned out.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2010, 01:04:30 AM
Also, based on family history I can reasonably expect to live to 110-120, so, yanno, who knows? Let them have their hilarious creepy incestuous relationship, it's better than most of the un-hilarious creepy incest in the world.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Kai on May 02, 2010, 02:31:36 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 02, 2010, 01:04:30 AM
Also, based on family history I can reasonably expect to live to 110-120, so, yanno, who knows? Let them have their hilarious creepy incestuous relationship, it's better than most of the un-hilarious creepy incest in the world.

Word.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 26, 2010, 05:23:58 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11094968

QuoteA Sri Lankan housemaid with nails embedded in her body is to undergo surgery, her doctors said.

LP Ariyawathie, 49, said her employer in Saudi Arabia inflicted the injuries as a punishment, according to medics at Kamburupitiya Hospital, Sri Lanka.

"She was brought in complaining her Saudi employer drove nails into her body," said hospital director Prabath Gajadeera.

"X-rays showed that there were 24 nails and a needle."

The nails were up to two inches (5cm) long, said Mr Gajadeera.

"There is one nail on the forehead, just under the skin," he added.
'Deeply traumatised'

Ms Ariyawathie, a mother of three, travelled to Saudi Arabia in March to become a housemaid.

Last week, she flew back to Sri Lanka and was admitted to hospital in the south of the island, where she told doctors she had undergone abuse for more than a month.

"When we checked her, we found 24 metal pieces in her legs and hands. She still can't properly sit down and walk," Dr Kamal Weerathunga told BBC Sandeshaya.

Doctors said Ms Ariyawathie was deeply traumatised and unable to give full details of her experience.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 26, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
What the fuuuuuuuck... :x


Also, I have discovered that I am a bad person: my second thought upon reading that was "how did she get through airport security with all that metal in her body?" But then I remembered that not every country has the TSA probing every passenger's colon with cameras and confiscating their bottles of Robitussin.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Jenne on August 26, 2010, 05:36:46 PM
Her EMPLOYER did that? 

This is the sorta shit I remember when I hear folks whining (myself included) about how bad America is, though, to be honest, it's not like it can't be BETTER.  But it's surely not the WORST.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: GIGGLES on May 15, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaupxeDqU6Q&feature=related
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
Bump

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/christian_cannibal_puppeteer_arrested_with_kiddie_porn_planned_to_abduct_an

QuoteThis is one of those stories that just makes your blood run cold: Ronald William Brown of Largo, Florida, the 57-year-old proprietor of "Puppets Plus," has been charged with the possession of child pornography and of conspiring with another man to kidnap and then eat a child.

The Christian Television Network kids program Joy Junction regularly featured Brown and his ventriloquist dummy "Marty," who would warn about things like... pornography.

Brown, an active member of the Gulf Coast Church in Largo, and an accomplice, Michael Arnett, were planning to abduct a specific child who was a member of the church and who took part in Brown's "Puppet Ministry Kidz Zone" youth ministry program.

Homeland Security agents who searched Brown's home and tool shed yesterday discovered images of bound and gagged kids, photographs of dead children and a flier for a missing child.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 01, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
Aaaaaaagh...

Times like this I really miss having the non-mirthy version of this emote ---> :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 01, 2013, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
Aaaaaaagh...

Times like this I really miss having the non-mirthy version of this emote ---> :horrormirth:

Yeah, me too. I've scoured the web for it but I can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 01, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
I had this wonderful little program that was specifically for manipulating pixel art, which I used to create a couple of emotes :1fap:

but then it spontaneously broke and would refuse to run, even after reinstalling :( If I still had it I would totally just shoop the horrormirth one back to its original form.


But seriously though: Cain's link is an extreme example of course, but do you suppose that the American South has so many "social conservatives" that want to use the law to tell everyone what to do because they have so many of the genuinely dangerous crazy people?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 01, 2013, 03:45:05 PM
WHAT THE FUCK! SERIOUSLY!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2013, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
I had this wonderful little program that was specifically for manipulating pixel art, which I used to create a couple of emotes :1fap:

but then it spontaneously broke and would refuse to run, even after reinstalling :( If I still had it I would totally just shoop the horrormirth one back to its original form.


But seriously though: Cain's link is an extreme example of course, but do you suppose that the American South has so many "social conservatives" that want to use the law to tell everyone what to do because they have so many of the genuinely dangerous crazy people?

Well, when you think about it, there is bound to be a link between social conservatism and deviant behaviour.

Imagine you've been struggling, since a young age, with those kind of "urges".  You don't want to be a bad person, most people don't.  So, to try and combat those urges, you try and surround yourself with and gravitate towards the perceived "good" in society.  In Amurrica, that means Church, and its associated trappings.  Partly to avert suspicion that you are that kind of person (so, camouflage), but also, IMO, in a hope that "good influences" will turn you from your desires and needs.

Except, of course, they never do.

And frequently, the camouflage then becomes a cover under which the deviant behaviour can be expressed, incorporated into it.

Not to say that every social conservative is a wannabe serial killer and cannibal...only that, if you yourself had those desires and urges, wouldn't you try and control them?  If you were addicted to deviant pornography, wouldn't you preach its evils, speaking from very personal experience?  And so on and so forth.

I'm not sure I've made my point entirely clearly there, but hopefully you can sorta see what I mean?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 01, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
Yeah, I think that's a good articulation of what I was thinking about. A more typical example would probably be the annual "Vehemently anti-gay conservative public figure caught drilling glory holes" scandal which has practically become a national ritual.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2013, 04:37:18 PM
Yeah, exactly.  Or pedophiles in the Catholic Church.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 01, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
"
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2013, 04:17:09 PM

Not to say that every social conservative is a wannabe serial killer and cannibal...only that, if you yourself had those desires and urges, wouldn't you try and control them?  If you were addicted to deviant pornography, wouldn't you preach its evils, speaking from very personal experience?  And so on and so forth.

I'm not sure I've made my point entirely clearly there, but hopefully you can sorta see what I mean?

Whackjob Sicko, Heal Thyself!"

Or as they say in Turkey:

"If the bald had the medicine, they would use it on their own head first."*








*Obviously, they never met Dok
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 01, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2013, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
I had this wonderful little program that was specifically for manipulating pixel art, which I used to create a couple of emotes :1fap:

but then it spontaneously broke and would refuse to run, even after reinstalling :( If I still had it I would totally just shoop the horrormirth one back to its original form.


But seriously though: Cain's link is an extreme example of course, but do you suppose that the American South has so many "social conservatives" that want to use the law to tell everyone what to do because they have so many of the genuinely dangerous crazy people?

Well, when you think about it, there is bound to be a link between social conservatism and deviant behaviour.

Imagine you've been struggling, since a young age, with those kind of "urges".  You don't want to be a bad person, most people don't.  So, to try and combat those urges, you try and surround yourself with and gravitate towards the perceived "good" in society.  In Amurrica, that means Church, and its associated trappings.  Partly to avert suspicion that you are that kind of person (so, camouflage), but also, IMO, in a hope that "good influences" will turn you from your desires and needs.

Except, of course, they never do.

And frequently, the camouflage then becomes a cover under which the deviant behaviour can be expressed, incorporated into it.

Not to say that every social conservative is a wannabe serial killer and cannibal...only that, if you yourself had those desires and urges, wouldn't you try and control them?  If you were addicted to deviant pornography, wouldn't you preach its evils, speaking from very personal experience?  And so on and so forth.

I'm not sure I've made my point entirely clearly there, but hopefully you can sorta see what I mean?

This makes perfect sense, and also aligns with a lot of the studies that show that regular churchgoers tend to be less moral people than those who abstain.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 01, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
See also "false consensus", the erroneous assumption that others think as we do. So the terrified and self-loathing deviant turns to fire-and-brimstone for help controlling his antisocial urges, and falsely believes that others experience the same urges; therefore, those who have not turned to religion or another rigidly controlling institution to control them are loose cannons, threats to society. Ergo, naturally, they must be controlled, lest the Godless heathens go on child-raping rampages.

It makes perfect sense, from that perspective. This is why they are so convinced that the unsaved and unchurched are wantonly fornicating baby-eating sinners. When they talk about the sins of the unsaved, they are giving us a blueprint to their own psyches.

That freaks me out.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Yes, it's ultimately a form of projection.  Their own mental model of the world is based on their experience and so, as far as they are concerned, pornography etc really are the cause of their problems, rather than a manifestation of them which is outside of most people's ordinary experiences.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: LMNO on August 01, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
It's not new: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."






ETA: I just looked up the phrase to see if I got it right, and as it turns out "protest" meant something slightly different in Willie's day, so everyone's been using it wrong in the modern age. It was intended to mean someone who swears, advocates, and promises so over-the-top as to their sincerity, that it comes off as insincere.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/F29A0863-A21F-4D52-A4B2-BD9EED5C2ED6-11230-00000E540FD6524E_zpsd756632d.jpg)
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 01, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

So fucking obvious. I'm kicking myself for not putting it together myself. In retrospect all the dots were there, I just never joined them!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 01, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
It's not new: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."






ETA: I just looked up the phrase to see if I got it right, and as it turns out "protest" meant something slightly different in Willie's day, so everyone's been using it wrong in the modern age. It was intended to mean someone who swears, advocates, and promises so over-the-top as to their sincerity, that it comes off as insincere.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/F29A0863-A21F-4D52-A4B2-BD9EED5C2ED6-11230-00000E540FD6524E_zpsd756632d.jpg)

Wonderful.

And the pic -  :lulz:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: McGrupp on August 01, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Members of my family have said similar things to me. They seem to think they have a monopoly on morality. My response is always "Wait, the only reason you don't stab me in the chest and steal my shoes is because God told you not to? What the heck is wrong with you?"
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.

It's even more disturbing because you refrain from these things without having a book to tell you what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

Moral acts without a book are accidents preformed by Heathens. Note the language these people tend to use when discussing a good/charitable act by others. Most of the time it almost seems resentful. I don't think that's co-incidental. "My Good Deed is more noble than their Good Deed because I chose this charity after being carefully informed of its Good Deeds by that HOLY MAN. They have a different HOLY MAN so even if they're doing some Good Deeds, they're still just not quite the right ones."

Passive aggressive bullshit all over the show.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 01, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:38:18 PM
Taking it even beyond that, I think about the people who say that without religion there's nothing to stop people from committing crimes, even killing each other. They're really talking about themselves, and that's disturbing.

Yeah, it really is.

I mean, I murder and steal exactly as much as I want to. Which is not at all.

It's even more disturbing because you refrain from these things without having a book to tell you what is and isn't acceptable behaviour.

Moral acts without a book are accidents preformed by Heathens. Note the language these people tend to use when discussing a good/charitable act by others. Most of the time it almost seems resentful. I don't think that's co-incidental. "My Good Deed is more noble than their Good Deed because I chose this charity after being carefully informed of its Good Deeds by that HOLY MAN. They have a different HOLY MAN so even if they're doing some Good Deeds, they're still just not quite the right ones."

Passive aggressive bullshit all over the show.

This is also accurate.  If you don't have the right Holy Man™, you're just as damned as if you didn't have one at all, so you're basically just wasting time you could be spending in hedonistic behavior.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 02, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.
Methinks an inflated sense of moral superiority can be quite hedonistic.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 03, 2013, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.

That is disturbing indeed.

If I were to indulge my hedonistic fantasies, I would have a quiet house on a sunny day with nothing to do. I would gorge myself on fresh ripe figs from my neighbor's tree, I would nap, and I would eat a shit ton of taco salad and play video games.

The fact that some people's sense of indulgence requires hurting other people is fucking creepy.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Left on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
Yes, it's ultimately a form of projection.  Their own mental model of the world is based on their experience and so, as far as they are concerned, pornography etc really are the cause of their problems, rather than a manifestation of them which is outside of most people's ordinary experiences.
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Which leads to the even more disturbing conclusion that for at least a number of people, these behaviours ARE hedonistic activities.

...Which means they may lose control and do it anyway, Jeebus or no Jeebus. 
Might explain a number of those unsolved missing-persons cases... :eek:

Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 03, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
It occurs to me that I eat figs off my neighbor's tree anyway, so essentially my entire hedonistic fantasy revolves around a quiet house and free time.

Shoot for the moon, little scientist!
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Left on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Don Coyote on August 03, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.

maybe you should fucking type your shit out and re fucking read it before hitting the fucking post button
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Left on August 03, 2013, 08:34:32 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 03, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.

maybe you should fucking type your shit out and re fucking read it before hitting the fucking post button
It was a thought spurred by his post....I like what he has to say, yet when I try to comment on it or mention thoughts I have, I seem to piss him off.
...I've already managed to hack him off several times unintentionally.
The best way to manage that would seem to be simply not commenting on what he has to say anymore.

Apparently I've managed to do the same to you, as you're screaming at me even after I've apologized.
This sucks.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 03, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 08:34:32 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 03, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.

maybe you should fucking type your shit out and re fucking read it before hitting the fucking post button
It was a thought spurred by his post....I like what he has to say, yet when I try to comment on it or mention thoughts I have, I seem to piss him off.
...I've already managed to hack him off several times unintentionally.
The best way to manage that would seem to be simply not commenting on what he has to say anymore.

Apparently I've managed to do the same to you, as you're screaming at me even after I've apologized.
This sucks.

Instead of feeling sorry for yourself and apologizing, a more productive angle might be to read over the posts that have irritated people, and try to learn to recognize what, exactly, about them is irritating. That way, you can learn to avoid continuing to do it.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Left on August 05, 2013, 12:32:20 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 08:34:32 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 03, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 03, 2013, 01:44:24 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on August 03, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
...Porn is a manifestation of a problem...um...ok.

Look, what the fuck is your problem with me?
...I seem to have a knack of pissing you off unintentionally, apparently.
Sorry.

I'll stop talking to you.

maybe you should fucking type your shit out and re fucking read it before hitting the fucking post button
It was a thought spurred by his post....I like what he has to say, yet when I try to comment on it or mention thoughts I have, I seem to piss him off.
...I've already managed to hack him off several times unintentionally.
The best way to manage that would seem to be simply not commenting on what he has to say anymore.

Apparently I've managed to do the same to you, as you're screaming at me even after I've apologized.
This sucks.

Instead of feeling sorry for yourself and apologizing, a more productive angle might be to read over the posts that have irritated people, and try to learn to recognize what, exactly, about them is irritating. That way, you can learn to avoid continuing to do it.
...Note to self...don't post when not medicated properly, you sound like a moron. :x
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on August 05, 2013, 11:00:38 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/1jqymd/i_went_hiking_yesterday_and_at_the_top_i_picked/
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 07, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
It occurs to me that I eat figs off my neighbor's tree anyway, so essentially my entire hedonistic fantasy revolves around a quiet house and free time.

Shoot for the moon, little scientist!
Quite similar to mine, actually.
I only ever get aggressive hedonistic fantasies if i don't get enough alone-time. Even then I yell variants of 'leave me alone' at least once every conversation, I do this weeks before i start imagining stabbing people in the eye.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: :regret: on August 07, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 03, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
It occurs to me that I eat figs off my neighbor's tree anyway, so essentially my entire hedonistic fantasy revolves around a quiet house and free time.

Shoot for the moon, little scientist!
Quite similar to mine, actually.
I only ever get aggressive hedonistic fantasies if i don't get enough alone-time. Even then I yell variants of 'leave me alone' at least once every conversation, I do this weeks before i start imagining stabbing people in the eye.

:lulz: I used to get every Sunday, Monday and Tuesday to myself. But then I got another kid and around the same time my loser ex had to move into a studio apartment, so now I have Sundays during the day sort of to myself but not really, depending.

It is difficult. I am starting to dream of a cabin in the woods, which I know is an exaggerated form of what I really want out of life.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Golden Applesauce on August 07, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
See also "false consensus", the erroneous assumption that others think as we do. So the terrified and self-loathing deviant turns to fire-and-brimstone for help controlling his antisocial urges, and falsely believes that others experience the same urges; therefore, those who have not turned to religion or another rigidly controlling institution to control them are loose cannons, threats to society. Ergo, naturally, they must be controlled, lest the Godless heathens go on child-raping rampages.

It makes perfect sense, from that perspective. This is why they are so convinced that the unsaved and unchurched are wantonly fornicating baby-eating sinners. When they talk about the sins of the unsaved, they are giving us a blueprint to their own psyches.

That freaks me out.

I've spent the last three weeks helping a friend (full story to come later) who was abused by her parents, who were also Baptists. They'd beat her for any or no reason at all, but one of their favorite reasons was to keep her from engaging in sinful activity, like cussing or trying to watch satanic foreign heathen television shows about the power of friendship.

If you believe that the fate of sinners is eternal torture, the logical conclusion of that is that you will one day end up torturing a child in real life and telling her that it's for her own good.

Sexuality takes you to hell.
Genital mutilation and rape can put people off of sex.
Therefore, therapeutic rape and torture is good parenting.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on August 07, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
See also "false consensus", the erroneous assumption that others think as we do. So the terrified and self-loathing deviant turns to fire-and-brimstone for help controlling his antisocial urges, and falsely believes that others experience the same urges; therefore, those who have not turned to religion or another rigidly controlling institution to control them are loose cannons, threats to society. Ergo, naturally, they must be controlled, lest the Godless heathens go on child-raping rampages.

It makes perfect sense, from that perspective. This is why they are so convinced that the unsaved and unchurched are wantonly fornicating baby-eating sinners. When they talk about the sins of the unsaved, they are giving us a blueprint to their own psyches.

That freaks me out.

I've spent the last three weeks helping a friend (full story to come later) who was abused by her parents, who were also Baptists. They'd beat her for any or no reason at all, but one of their favorite reasons was to keep her from engaging in sinful activity, like cussing or trying to watch satanic foreign heathen television shows about the power of friendship.

If you believe that the fate of sinners is eternal torture, the logical conclusion of that is that you will one day end up torturing a child in real life and telling her that it's for her own good.

Sexuality takes you to hell.
Genital mutilation and rape can put people off of sex.
Therefore, therapeutic rape and torture is good parenting.

This, is a perfect illustration of the reason I find absolutely no level of religious belief acceptable. When the most important consideration in your life is some imaginary bullshit, all of reality is, by definition, of lower priority. I don't care if the majority of religious believers are harmless, good people. They're still inexcusably stupid and potentially dangerous to boot.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on August 07, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 01, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
See also "false consensus", the erroneous assumption that others think as we do. So the terrified and self-loathing deviant turns to fire-and-brimstone for help controlling his antisocial urges, and falsely believes that others experience the same urges; therefore, those who have not turned to religion or another rigidly controlling institution to control them are loose cannons, threats to society. Ergo, naturally, they must be controlled, lest the Godless heathens go on child-raping rampages.

It makes perfect sense, from that perspective. This is why they are so convinced that the unsaved and unchurched are wantonly fornicating baby-eating sinners. When they talk about the sins of the unsaved, they are giving us a blueprint to their own psyches.

That freaks me out.

I've spent the last three weeks helping a friend (full story to come later) who was abused by her parents, who were also Baptists. They'd beat her for any or no reason at all, but one of their favorite reasons was to keep her from engaging in sinful activity, like cussing or trying to watch satanic foreign heathen television shows about the power of friendship.

If you believe that the fate of sinners is eternal torture, the logical conclusion of that is that you will one day end up torturing a child in real life and telling her that it's for her own good.

Sexuality takes you to hell.
Genital mutilation and rape can put people off of sex.
Therefore, therapeutic rape and torture is good parenting.

This is all predicated on the idea that God is as big of a dick as his worshipers.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Kinda follows that something dreamed up or hallucinated by idiots aint going to be any smarter than the idiots themselves.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Kinda follows that something dreamed up or hallucinated by idiots aint going to be any smarter than the idiots themselves.

Well, that's fairly obvious, if you take a look at the Greek Pantheon, which consisted of

1.  Rapists, and
2.  The wives of the rapists who murdered or cursed the victims of the rape.

And then compare that to Greek culture during it's classical period, which consisted of

1.  Rapists.

So, people tend to manufacture Gods that reflect their core values. 

On the other hand, that doesn't imply that said Gods don't exist.  Maybe they're mutable, and change with human values?

There's a story in there, somewhere.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Kinda follows that something dreamed up or hallucinated by idiots aint going to be any smarter than the idiots themselves.

Well, that's fairly obvious, if you take a look at the Greek Pantheon, which consisted of

1.  Rapists, and
2.  The wives of the rapists who murdered or cursed the victims of the rape.

And then compare that to Greek culture during it's classical period, which consisted of

1.  Rapists.

So, people tend to manufacture Gods that reflect their core values. 

On the other hand, that doesn't imply that said Gods don't exist.  Maybe they're mutable, and change with human values?

There's a story in there, somewhere.

Someone introduced me years back to the concept of "egregore" in relation to god shit. Does god exist in this form? He might not have a face but he has agency, there's no doubt. However, if everyone stopped believing in his dumb ass, he'd cease to exist.

:dream:
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 04:04:58 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Kinda follows that something dreamed up or hallucinated by idiots aint going to be any smarter than the idiots themselves.

Well, that's fairly obvious, if you take a look at the Greek Pantheon, which consisted of

1.  Rapists, and
2.  The wives of the rapists who murdered or cursed the victims of the rape.

And then compare that to Greek culture during it's classical period, which consisted of

1.  Rapists.

So, people tend to manufacture Gods that reflect their core values. 

On the other hand, that doesn't imply that said Gods don't exist.  Maybe they're mutable, and change with human values?

There's a story in there, somewhere.

Someone introduced me years back to the concept of "egregore" in relation to god shit. Does god exist in this form? He might not have a face but he has agency, there's no doubt. However, if everyone stopped believing in his dumb ass, he'd cease to exist.

:dream:

I prefer that he exists, because someone as cool as me should not be allowed to cease existing.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on August 08, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 03:24:05 PM
Kinda follows that something dreamed up or hallucinated by idiots aint going to be any smarter than the idiots themselves.

Well, that's fairly obvious, if you take a look at the Greek Pantheon, which consisted of

1.  Rapists, and
2.  The husbands of the rapists who murdered or cursed the victims of the rape.

And then compare that to Greek culture during it's classical period, which consisted of

1.  Rapists.

So, people tend to manufacture Gods that reflect their core values. 

On the other hand, that doesn't imply that said Gods don't exist.  Maybe they're mutable, and change with human values?

There's a story in there, somewhere.

Someone introduced me years back to the concept of "egregore" in relation to goddess shit. Does goddess exist in this form? She might not have a face but she has agency, there's no doubt. However, if everyone stopped believing in her dumb ass, she'd cease to exist.

:dream:

TvTropes named this one: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodsNeedPrayerBadly

The egregore-style memetic mutation doesn't factor in here necessarily, but it tends to go along with the same memeplex. I started seeing it a lot in the 90s, and so I mostly blame Neil Gaiman for promoting it. The best argument for the two going together comes out of the chaos magic community -- specifically the people who consider gods to be anthropomorphizations of neuroses & emotional disorders.
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
The meme of memetics is an annoying meme.

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Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 09, 2013, 07:07:02 AM
Quote from: Osama Bin Login on August 08, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
The meme of memetics is an annoying meme.

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What about METAMEMETICS? METAMEMEMETAMEMEMETAMEMEMETAMEME
Title: Re: Nightmare fuel
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on August 09, 2013, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 09, 2013, 07:07:02 AM
Quote from: Osama Bin Login on August 08, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
The meme of memetics is an annoying meme.

MemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMemeMeme

What about METAMEMETICS? METAMEMEMETAMEMEMETAMEMEMETAMEME
MEME MEME MEME MEME
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