I've noticed in recent years a disparity between certain types of thinking. There's ideas which are basically further expounding on a base of agreed-upon assumptions and then there's things that analyze those assumptions. It seems the world is chock full of the former and, as a fellow who is all about the latter, it seems that when I try to get someone to see that our differences are based simply on different fundamental ideas they treat me like I suddenly started spouting gibberish. Is even the intellectual world being infested with ignorance, intolerance and a general lack of self realization?
I'll throw a nice, juicy, inflammatory example that is near and dear to me. I often differ with a lot of people who think that men are more sexually motivated than women (I feel this is a widely accepted idea in our society as well). I try to point out that the real scientific data (Reich, The Function of the Orgasm, The Invasion of Compulsory Sex Morality) suggests that women are actually just as sexually motivated and all the other behaviors around the idea that they are not is really a social convention. It is usually at this point that someone starts treating me as though I just exited a spaceship and am pointing what is obviously a death ray at them. Why is this? I believe that people basically still treat their ideas like religion. They have merely supplanted something they PERCEIVE as more intellectual or scientific and they are just as irrational about it as a religious fanatic. Sometimes someone will appear to be quite intelligent at first and then behave this way. Please discuss and expound
Some beliefs are associated with identity. If you challenge those beliefs, you challenge who they are at a fundamental level.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
Some beliefs are associated with identity. If you challenge those beliefs, you challenge who they are at a fundamental level.
Yes.
Beliefs that shape how people
think of themselves are usually the hardest for them to truly examine and challenge. The idea that men and women have inherently different levels of sexual motivation informs what they believe to be true of themselves and how they interact with members of the opposite sex. Challenging that idea has the potential to force them to reconsider a vast number of assumptions that stem from that belief, including assumptions and deductions about the nature of our society itself and how it formed the way it did. It's hard.
The idea of being an american comes to mind. If youre an american and readily identify as such chances are that youre going to think that the united states hold a special place in history as a champion of democracy that should be considered some sort of leader of the world despite all evidence to the contrary.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2012, 10:09:18 PM
The idea of being an american comes to mind. If youre an american and readily identify as such chances are that youre going to think that the united states hold a special place in history as a champion of democracy that should be considered some sort of leader of the world despite all evidence to the contrary.
Balls. I identify as an American, and I know all her warts and VD scabs. And atrocities. And her view that everyone's free, as long as you're a straight White male protestant.
I said chances are. Plus youre an exception rather than a rule.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2012, 11:15:45 PM
I said chances are. Plus youre an exception rather than a rule.
America is my medicine, in the same way that it was James Brown's medicine, which is to say it gives me something to laugh a nasty little laugh about, while it thinks I'm complimenting it.
cf; Living in America by James Brown. He's LAUGHING at America. Watch the video again, with that in mind.
OK thanks for chiming in, all. BUT. We didn't take the discussion as far as I was trying to go into. You all agreed that even relatively intelligent people will react emotionally rather than rationally when confronted with an idea that actually challenges an assumption they have based a lot on. But why? Why is it I was attracted to such things and others aren't? I mean I could go into genetics and how large populations of our relative recent ancestors were bred to be submissive to an idea.
It seems that people are still under the yoke we've just been given the freedom to chose a yoke. I mean huge movements of thought will sweep our population (which is a new phenomenon, as far as how common that has become) but can possibly be useless when put up to actual intellectual scrutiny. In short, we seem to have given ignorance a veneer of intelligence. I believe this to be dangerous in that people are electing officials into power who are pandering to these thoughts. Please continue.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
OK thanks for chiming in, all. BUT. We didn't take the discussion as far as I was trying to go into.
Sorry about that.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
But why? Why is it I was attracted to such things and others aren't?
You are a neophile. You see yourself as "a person that seriously challenges its own assumptions about things".
Now, I'm not saying that you are just as stupid as "them" just because you also have an identity (an image of yourself you want to preserve). That's not the stupid part.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
I mean I could go into genetics and how large populations of our relative recent ancestors were bred to be submissive to an idea.
I think evolutionary psychology can be a good approach for explaining this problem. But it's more than just our genes.
In the area of politics, where this kind of thinking appears more often, it is considered a weakness to change your mind, and for very good pragmatic reasons. Instead of constantly updating your worldview as you go, it's simply more effective to begin by picking an ideology you like and then stick with it at all costs.
Lord Cataplanga, you still have failed to move this forward. Great, you have a word, "neophile", for someone who challenges their own beliefs. But still, why don't more people. If you read my original post I'm lamenting the invasion of this into intellectual circles. Also people exhibit this behavior in many more realms than just political.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 08:57:06 PM
Lord Cataplanga, you still have failed to move this forward.
You're a bit of an asshole, aren't you?
Why don't more people question their beliefs? It's one of those timeless mysteries to which we will never have an adequate answer. Like other questions which have plagued us for thousands of years, like "Why is the sky blue?" and "Where do babies come from?" These are things which we, apparently, are just not meant to know.
That was my thought too.
Tipareth- youre not really going to have the conversation moved forward if youre complaining about the people posting not meeting your expectations. Youre actively discouraging us from doing so with your phrasing and attitude.
Quote from: V3X on October 29, 2012, 09:00:55 PM
Why don't more people question their beliefs? It's one of those timeless mysteries to which we will never have an adequate answer. Like other questions which have plagued us for thousands of years, like "Why is the sky blue?" and "Where do babies come from?" These are things which we, apparently, are just not meant to know.
Why do people come on a message board and demand that people "move the conversation forward", rather than just discuss it?
Oh, wait. I know the answer to that one.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 29, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
That was my thought too.
Tipareth- youre not really going to have the conversation moved forward if youre complaining about the people posting not meeting your expectations. Youre actively discouraging us from doing so with your phrasing and attitude.
That's because Tipareth isn't here to "have a conversation".
Trolling?
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 29, 2012, 09:06:54 PM
Trolling?
Obviously. And from the IMMEDIATE nature of it, probably in "revenge" (maybe one of Uncle BadTouch's alts or sycophants? Hard to say before I get back to the laptop).
Either that, or he's just an aspie who thinks he's special. One or the other.
Well coming off like an asshole was certainly not my intent. Sincerest apologies all around if offended. I am actually pleased we all agree on the subject but I am just trying to get a little further than just describing the situation in numerous ways.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
Well coming off like an asshole was certainly not my intent.
Obviously. :|
But it appears that we do not meet your exacting standards for conversation. Pity.
It's hard to lead a conversation forward when you're just standing in front of it.
Reverend Roadkill, your first word on this subject was "Balls" and now you're trying to accuse me of assholery? If you're so hurt feel free to stop participating; I like everyone's participation I'm just trying to goad it in the original direction. I would give this right to anyone whose post I was commenting on.
Quote from: V3X on October 29, 2012, 09:17:58 PM
It's hard to lead a conversation forward when you're just standing in front of it.
See, he STARTED the conversation. It's up to US to take it to new and greater heights.
Unfortunately, I don't speak Hipster (or, rather, I refuse to), so the OP just said:
Quoteblah blah blah.
I could try translating it into a less pretentious dialect, but why bother? That wouldn't be moving things forward, either.
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: V3X on October 29, 2012, 09:17:58 PM
It's hard to lead a conversation forward when you're just standing in front of it.
See, he STARTED the conversation. It's up to US to take it to new and greater heights.
Unfortunately, I don't speak Hipster (or, rather, I refuse to), so the OP just said:
Quoteblah blah blah.
I could try translating it into a less pretentious dialect, but why bother? That wouldn't be moving things forward, either.
This makes sense. Perhaps if we simply stopped posting altogether, and asked OP to explain things, we could make some progress.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Reverend Roadkill, your first word on this subject was "Balls" and now you're trying to accuse me of assholery?
Yes. Any apparent double standard is just a function of my Holiness™.
QuoteIf you're so hurt feel free to stop participating
Hurt? And no, I wouldn't miss this for the world.
QuoteI'm just trying to goad it in the original direction.
Herding cats, ITT.
Translation
Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
I've noticed in recent years a disparity between certain types of thinking.
People think in two different ways.
False, people think in myriad ways.Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
There's ideas which are basically further expounding on a base of agreed-upon assumptions and then there's things that analyze those assumptions.
Some people just parrot what they're told, and some people are prone to examine things a little deeper
Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
It seems the world is chock full of the former and, as a fellow who is all about the latter,
I am smarter than the idiots that surround me.
Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
it seems that when I try to get someone to see that our differences are based simply on different fundamental ideas they treat me like I suddenly started spouting gibberish.
I cannot communicate.
Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
Is even the intellectual world being infested with ignorance, intolerance and a general lack of self realization?
I wish everyone was smart like me.
Quote from: tipareth on October 26, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
I'll throw a nice, juicy, inflammatory example that is near and dear to me. I often differ with a lot of people who think that men are more sexually motivated than women (I feel this is a widely accepted idea in our society as well). I try to point out that the real scientific data (Reich, The Function of the Orgasm, The Invasion of Compulsory Sex Morality) suggests that women are actually just as sexually motivated and all the other behaviors around the idea that they are not is really a social convention. It is usually at this point that someone starts treating me as though I just exited a spaceship and am pointing what is obviously a death ray at them. Why is this? I believe that people basically still treat their ideas like religion. They have merely supplanted something they PERCEIVE as more intellectual or scientific and they are just as irrational about it as a religious fanatic. Sometimes someone will appear to be quite intelligent at first and then behave this way. Please discuss and expound
Nobody believes me about my Orgone Accumulator.
There. Now we can move forward.
(Edited for a shameful grammatical error.)
I like the trademark on Holiness. Is it sold as a unit or by the ounce? Now please, your holiness, stop derailing this discussion just because I phrased one response a little curtly. You've made way too many assumptions about me based on it and are really just being the instigator that you so readily see in me. Why do you suppose people get so emotionally attached to assumptions?
Please consult backlog of material at PD that deals with this question before pretending it is a new discussion. You could be excused, however, because this sort of thing has only been the subject of non-stop discussion for the past 8 years or so.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
I like the trademark on Holiness.
Well, we have to trademark it, or the fucking Calvinists run off with it.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
Is it sold as a unit or by the ounce?
By the gross.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
Now please, your holiness, stop derailing this discussion just because I phrased one response a little curtly.
Two responses...Which comprised all of your reponses at that time.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:34:50 PM
You've made way too many assumptions about me based on it and are really just being the instigator that you so readily see in me. Why do you suppose people get so emotionally attached to assumptions?
Because when you hear hoofbeats, it could be:
1. Horses.
2. Zebras.
3. Unicorns with pink monkeys hanging off of their balls.
Which is the most likely?
Thing is, people DO operate on first impressions. Welcome to all of human history. And when you walk in handing out orders and telling people how they've failed to meet your standards, the first impression given is "asshole". If you want a conversation in which first impressions don't count and/or orders are accepted calmly, either get yourself an Elizabot or marry someone from Kentucky.
Quote from: V3X on October 29, 2012, 09:38:45 PM
Please consult backlog of material at PD that deals with this question before pretending it is a new discussion. You could be excused, however, because this sort of thing has only been the subject of non-stop discussion for the past 8 years or so.
It's different when he does it. He's a unique flower.
Reverend Roadkill, you are a new breed: Trolls who get by on accusing others of trolling.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:51:21 PM
Reverend Roadkill, you are a new breed: Trolls who get by on accusing others of trolling.
Yes, I am trolling PD. I admit it. I have been doing so since January of 2002, and it took a genius like you to expose my fiendish plan. I in fact became an admin specifically to make this easier. You sir, are a regular fucking SHERLOCK HOLMES, and I think everyone on this here board should take a moment to thank you.
In any case, as V3x has pointed out, we've only been having this conversation for 8 years, so there wasn't much chance you'd see it. Of course, at no time did we holler at people to MOVE FORWARD, which explains why, despite our having written several books and pamphlets on the subject, we've made no progress at all.
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
Tip i thought you were being an asshole too. Its not roger. Its you.
Tip seems like a smart guy. He just needs to realize that there are other smart people in the room.
Know what I mean?
Yep.
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:51:21 PM
Reverend Roadkill, you are a new breed
You have no fucking clue.
The weirdest thing is the way he keeps the large mass of pelts* that are glued together with some kind of funky sap-looking substance in the room with him at all times. He puts it one whenever he goes out, of course. And when there's a camera in the room. But he doesn't seem to mind the complete baldness and says he's adapted to desert life quite easily, having grown a thick layer of pinkish-brown leather-like skin that sheds every October.
That's probably why you're so unsettled. It's shedding time and, I'm not afraid to say it now that you're here, but he's been getting a little...wonky. Started eating more lizards than usual. What's more whenever really smart people like you show up he...well he scares 'em right off. And he scares me too.
I still see that pelt of fur sitting there on the chair next to me at the kitchen table...like it's
people. And when I asked about it the whole party got quiet and Rev. Roadkill just started spitting on everything and said he was going to go get his gun. That pelt...I see it every time I close my eyes.
Alty,
skeert.
*I can only imagine these were hand-gathered in the Canadian wild before they expelled him for lowering the bigfoot population with what can only be described as "loud, thunderous, bowel-clenching expulsions of noxious chemicals" that turned beautiful, lush greenland into what has been referred to in the media as Tar-Sand pits.
You know...I've felt that way before...feeling like others would prefer to remain in their cyclical melodramas than find an out. Eventually, I think, some folks get tired of it all and accept responsibility for their actions. Some folks think their pretty darn special for figuring this out. Other folks just grow up. And yet other folks will continue on with the charade...over and over... until it hurts just enough to either die or fix it.
Welcome to Life™ . There are hardhats in the lobby and cookies in the kitchen.
Ok, let's break this down a bit.
You essentially asserted that some people live under common assumptions, and then asked why they get mad when you challenge them.
"Because beliefs are tied to identity," we said. We gave examples.
You then asked "but why?" You followed up with an assertion that OTHER people yoked themselves to ideas, but YOU were a snowflake.
We pointed to evolutionary psychology and/or biology as a possibility, and referenced the Illuminatus! concept of "neophile".
You again asked, "why?" Which at this point doesn't make sense, because you don't seem to be asking about evolutionary psychology, you just seem to be reiterating the previous question. Which means that you really didn't understand the answer we gave.
It's at that point where the conversation broke down, and we started poking you with sticks. If you had wanted to "keep the conversation going," you should have responded to the answer given, rather than ignoring it and circling back to your previous question.
So, you want to know why most people act under blanket assumptions? Because for the most part, it works, and they've got more important things to do. They're simply trying to get through their day, and they really don't have time to get into extensive ontological analysis of belief systems and their real-world repercussions. Their belief systems work well enough to get by, and they'll only really be faced with the issue of changing them when it directly and severely impacts their lives, if then even.
Then there is a minority of people who act under blanket assumptions, and they do that because they see some kind of personal benefit in it, be it financial, "spiritual", or power-based. They use the assumption as an angle to manipulate others.
Saint LMNO wasting his time, ITT.
Go heal some lepers, spag! :argh!:
I DO IT FOR THE CHILDERN.
WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 30, 2012, 01:58:33 PM
I DO IT FOR THE CHILDERN.
WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
Because they're beastly things. Won't have them in the house.
You know, I was going to write a whole big thing here about unquestioned assumptions in the OP, people having more important shit going on in their lives, not having being taught the right conceptual tools, that whining on the internet is what blogs are for etc...but then I realised this picture pretty much conveyed the message I wanted to get across:
(http://i.imgur.com/l2Eam.png)
Thank you, Randall Munroe.
Pretty much that.
Well I guess that's e/o/t, then. Good work, folks
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 30, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
Well I guess that's e/o/t, then. Good work, folks
Um. :|
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 09:51:21 PM
Reverend Roadkill, you are a new breed: Trolls who get by on accusing others of trolling.
Yes, I am trolling PD. I admit it. I have been doing so since January of 2002, and it took a genius like you to expose my fiendish plan. I in fact became an admin specifically to make this easier. You sir, are a regular fucking SHERLOCK HOLMES, and I think everyone on this here board should take a moment to thank you.
In any case, as V3x has pointed out, we've only been having this conversation for 8 years, so there wasn't much chance you'd see it. Of course, at no time did we holler at people to MOVE FORWARD, which explains why, despite our having written several books and pamphlets on the subject, we've made no progress at all.
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
When do the obsessive batshit PMs start?
I'm just trying to figure out how suddenly his asshole behavior is our fault.
That could be diagnosed as several things.
MOAR SCIENCE!
I'm thinking it was an oblique recursive reference to the admonishment to "keep the conversation going."
Oh. No actually--I was just appreciating how the three of you pretty much won the thread. That is to say, if there was a thread to be won at all.
So, in the general vein of "this conversation didn't go where I want," I've found myself a couple times now put things up and then get responses that feel like I failed to communicate what I really wanted to. So far I've attempted shrieking and ignoring it, both of which are pretty unsatisfactory and dumb. Is there a good way to say "you went way the hell over to left field with that and I was aiming somewhere else entirely" without it coming across as a judgment of the person responding or the general quality of their response?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,33623.0.html
Quote from: tipareth on October 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
OK thanks for chiming in, all. BUT. We didn't take the discussion as far as I was trying to go into. You all agreed that even relatively intelligent people will react emotionally rather than rationally when confronted with an idea that actually challenges an assumption they have based a lot on. But why? Why is it I was attracted to such things and others aren't? I mean I could go into genetics and how large populations of our relative recent ancestors were bred to be submissive to an idea.
It seems that people are still under the yoke we've just been given the freedom to chose a yoke. I mean huge movements of thought will sweep our population (which is a new phenomenon, as far as how common that has become) but can possibly be useless when put up to actual intellectual scrutiny. In short, we seem to have given ignorance a veneer of intelligence. I believe this to be dangerous in that people are electing officials into power who are pandering to these thoughts. Please continue.
Who's this "we"? You posted once and disappeared for three days. I didn't realize everyone else was supposed to dance for your entertainment while you were gone. If you're interested in the topic, keep the conversation going. I don't feel the need to hash it out for you; those of us who have had the same discussion in the past probably don't find it as compelling as those for whom it is fresh and new, which at this point appears to just be you.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on October 31, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
So, in the general vein of "this conversation didn't go where I want," I've found myself a couple times now put things up and then get responses that feel like I failed to communicate what I really wanted to. So far I've attempted shrieking and ignoring it, both of which are pretty unsatisfactory and dumb. Is there a good way to say "you went way the hell over to left field with that and I was aiming somewhere else entirely" without it coming across as a judgment of the person responding or the general quality of their response?
"OK, that's interesting, but not really what I was looking to discuss. How about we talk about that in another thread, and that way we can keep a clearer focus on the main points I was looking at in this one."
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Quote from: chimes on October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Actually, I have hair this month.
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 31, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: chimes on October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Actually, I have hair this month.
So, in terms of ratio, the relative increase of hair on your person is infinitesimal. ;) Q.E.D., you're about as bald as before.
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 31, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: chimes on October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Actually, I have hair this month.
Pics or it didn't happen.
And seriously, Burns left forever because some aspie got butthurt over nobody being interested or impressed with their aspie-ness? I mean, I get the sense it's probably his GF/wife/what the fuck ever, but just because you're touching genitals with someone doesn't mean that sending them to PD is a good idea. In fact, it's consistently one of worst ideas people have regarding this site. And if they come to PD and have their own intellectual and/or social weaknesses exposed, how does that make PD the asshole? And to top it off, there are two possibilities: Tipareth demanded that Burns stop being friends with us and he complied, which makes her a manipulative and controlling shitneck and him a weak-minded bowl of dick pudding OR Burns decided on his own that if we weren't nice to his special little friend then we weren't worth his time anymore. Not sure which I think is worse, but they both suck a bunch of donkey balls.
Burns was one of my favorite posters here. I'm sad that my estimation of him as a person is lowered.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 05, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 31, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: chimes on October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Actually, I have hair this month.
Pics or it didn't happen.
And seriously, Burns left forever because some aspie got butthurt over nobody being interested or impressed with their aspie-ness? I mean, I get the sense it's probably his GF/wife/what the fuck ever, but just because you're touching genitals with someone doesn't mean that sending them to PD is a good idea. In fact, it's consistently one of worst ideas people have regarding this site. And if they come to PD and have their own intellectual and/or social weaknesses exposed, how does that make PD the asshole? And to top it off, there are two possibilities: Tipareth demanded that Burns stop being friends with us and he complied, which makes her a manipulative and controlling shitneck and him a weak-minded bowl of dick pudding OR Burns decided on his own that if we weren't nice to his special little friend then we weren't worth his time anymore. Not sure which I think is worse, but they both suck a bunch of donkey balls.
Burns was one of my favorite posters here. I'm sad that my estimation of him as a person is lowered.
No, I have since spoken to Burns, and his problems are not related to this thread. He is apparently having some problems, and has flounced from all online activities while he deals with said issues.
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 05, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 31, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: chimes on October 31, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on October 29, 2012, 09:56:03 PM
Now, if you don't mind, I'd like to clear the checklist off...So please accuse me of the following things:
1. Not being a REAL Discordian.
2. Controling the minds of the other members, ala Jim Jones or with orbital mind control lasers, etc.
3. Being an old curmudgeony bald-headed bastard.
4. Hivemind.
Thanks in advance.
I caught that - trying to slip #3 in there like it isn't true. :)
Actually, I have hair this month.
Pics or it didn't happen.
And seriously, Burns left forever because some aspie got butthurt over nobody being interested or impressed with their aspie-ness? I mean, I get the sense it's probably his GF/wife/what the fuck ever, but just because you're touching genitals with someone doesn't mean that sending them to PD is a good idea. In fact, it's consistently one of worst ideas people have regarding this site. And if they come to PD and have their own intellectual and/or social weaknesses exposed, how does that make PD the asshole? And to top it off, there are two possibilities: Tipareth demanded that Burns stop being friends with us and he complied, which makes her a manipulative and controlling shitneck and him a weak-minded bowl of dick pudding OR Burns decided on his own that if we weren't nice to his special little friend then we weren't worth his time anymore. Not sure which I think is worse, but they both suck a bunch of donkey balls.
Burns was one of my favorite posters here. I'm sad that my estimation of him as a person is lowered.
No, I have since spoken to Burns, and his problems are not related to this thread. He is apparently having some problems, and has flounced from all online activities while he deals with said issues.
Aw, Burns! :( I hope that shit gets sorted out and he comes back. I like Burns.
Torn between "shit, I hope that gets sorted soon" and "glad it wasn't a case of stupid butthurt, Burns is above that shit." Or both.
Quote from: Luna on November 05, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Torn between "shit, I hope that gets sorted soon" and "glad it wasn't a case of stupid butthurt, Burns is above that shit." Or both.
I'm gonna go with both. I'm bummed hes having IRL problems but I'm really glad he's still as solid a dude as I thought he was. And Burns, if you read this, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 06, 2012, 12:05:08 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 05, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Torn between "shit, I hope that gets sorted soon" and "glad it wasn't a case of stupid butthurt, Burns is above that shit." Or both.
I'm gonna go with both. I'm bummed hes having IRL problems but I'm really glad he's still as solid a dude as I thought he was. And Burns, if you read this, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.
Likewise.
Thanks, folks! I'm doing better...
Also, pardon the abruptness, I didn't really have the time nor the cognitive capacity to type a well thought out flounce post during my rather irrational evening.. I've since just been taking it real slow and chill-like. 8)
Glad you're doing better!
Hey Burns. No harm, no foul.
No wife, no horse, no moustache.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 06, 2012, 12:05:08 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 05, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Torn between "shit, I hope that gets sorted soon" and "glad it wasn't a case of stupid butthurt, Burns is above that shit." Or both.
I'm gonna go with both. I'm bummed hes having IRL problems but I'm really glad he's still as solid a dude as I thought he was. And Burns, if you read this, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.
I truly believe all our problems could be solved with minimal injury if at those points wherein the tide may turn either way by someone saying: Coldly, calmly, yet severely : "That's just a lot of mucus"