The House of Representatives voted Wednesday to overturn the ban on openly gay and lesbian soldiers serving in the U.S. military, passing legislation repealing the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
The bill -- a so-called "standalone" measure not tied to any other legislative items -- passed 250 to 175 in a virtual party-line vote. It now advances to the Senate.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/15/gays.in.military/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
This is making me dizzy.
Roger: You're the political bookie here, what are the odds on the republicans *not* filibustering this?
Well, I'm not Roger, but the GOP wants to go home for Xmas.
With a stacked legislative agenda to pass before the end of the year, the latest battle in the Senate centers on when members will head home to their districts to celebrate Christmas.
After Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, left the door open to keeping the Senate in session through the holiday, Arizona Republican Sen. Jon Kyl accused him of "disrespecting one of the two holiest of holidays for Christians."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/15/senators-argue-over-christmas/
The type of filibustering the republicans are doing doesn't require them to actually be there. God forbid our politicians be expected to work.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 15, 2010, 11:19:37 PM
The type of filibustering the republicans are doing doesn't require them to actually be there. God forbid our politicians be expected to work.
From the same article.
"Yet some of my Republican colleagues have the nerve to whine about having to stay in action to do the work that the American people pay us to do," Reid said. "We could work, as most Americans do, during the holidays. Perhaps Senators Kyl and DeMint have been in Washington too long."
I believe Olympia Snow and Susan Collins are both on board with repealing DADT, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Scott Brown is in that boat too. It seems to me if it is brought to the Senate floor the GOP will not be able to filibuster it.
Snowe and Collins are in on the scam.
The Scam (for those of you who don't know it):
Collins or Snowe supports DADT repeal "in theory", but insist on certain procedural compromises that then allow the explicit opponenents of DADT to kill the bill entirely. It's the Great Moderate Republican Scam, and it works for everyone except all the non-heterosexual people in the military.
Snow and Collins didn't vote for 911 responders getting health care. Fuck them in their faces.
Collins is up for re-election in 2012 and the Tea Party are already telling Collins she will get a primary challenge. Expect her to shed her RINO-ness for the next couple of years. So I think you could only really count on Snowe at this point. Collins' support should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/12/18/decide-dont-ask-dont-tell-military-gays/#content
So much butthurt... They should have sent a poet.
Considering the military has been asking for feedback from service members for the past 3-4 months on DADT and the Pentagon concluded that it would not negatively impact readiness....they all need to grow up.
Quotefemales are a major burden on the military
Thanks gunsteafreedom, I had no idea. :winner:
QuoteDTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.
Delicious conservative tears.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on December 18, 2010, 09:24:28 PM
QuoteDTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.
Delicious conservative tears.
OMG
Sounds like someone who never served whining. :lulz:
Quote from: TGB on December 18, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on December 18, 2010, 09:24:28 PM
QuoteDTDA should be the decision of our military leadership not the community organizer President who couldn't punch a hole in a paper bag or Congressmen and women who have never served in our armed forces. We do not need the politicians legislating for the gay community in this country. Military leadership should make this decision because they are on the front lines and understand troop morale and feelings and have the ultimate responsibility for protecting this country; not the yellow bellies in the Congress. It is an absolute joke that the President of the United States is considered the "commander in chief." This buffon couldn't even lead a troop of boy scouts to a water hole.
Delicious conservative tears.
OMG
Sounds like someone who never served whining. :lulz:
BUT COYOTE! HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU HAD TO SHOWER OTHER MEN, SOME OF WHOM WERE GAY? AND YOU KNEW THEY WERE GAY? AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT YOU!? I KNOW I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE OGLED BY OTHER WOMEN WHILE I WAS IN THE SHOWER! I WOULD BE DISTRACTED FROM OGLING THEM!
QuoteIn the end, it is not our military that protects this country but the Almighty God's blessing upon our military as well as our shores and borders. It's His laws and moral code that this nation was founded on and our acceptance of them has been why we've been blessed. We are not a special people ; He's the one who is special. Do citizens of other nations declare allegiance to be "under God" as we do? Does the passage of this bill honor HIm? To me, it seems serving self-interest.
Guess we've been doing it wrong!
Sarcasm aside, it's about fucking time we move forward one baby step. I can only hope this means they'll finally come out with rainbow colored uniform options ASAP. Too bad it won't actually end up meaning anything.. I expect reported-assaults-within-military stats to rise over the next year.
They could hand out these fabulous pink Japanese "Miss Kitty" special issue rifles to everyone. Yanno? As a welcome gesture.
(http://i.imgur.com/avBjk.jpg)
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on December 18, 2010, 09:15:24 PM
Quotefemales are a major burden on the military
Thanks gunsteafreedom, I had no idea. :winner:
I thought Major Burden was a guy.
Quote from: Faust on December 19, 2010, 12:49:54 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on December 18, 2010, 09:15:24 PM
Quotefemales are a major burden on the military
Thanks gunsteafreedom, I had no idea. :winner:
I thought Major Burden was a guy.
You sure you're not thinking of Birdo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdo#Gender)?
No he's a corporal.
The Chinese have a uniform to go with those guns...
http://personal.amy-wong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/china-60-years-03.jpg
Quote from: StoreBrand on December 19, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
The Chinese have a uniform to go with those guns...
http://personal.amy-wong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/china-60-years-03.jpg
Wow! A Synchronised Army of sexy robo-chinky-chicks, in natty red Uniforms, shiny white Cowboy boots, all armed with SMG's? I'm sure I had that idea first, as a fantasy, and never told anyone about it!
**Get out of my head, you clairvoyant Communist fantasy thieves!** :argh!: :tinfoilhat:
(http://i.imgur.com/oaHYY.jpg)
lol, it's hard to see in that picture but those uniforms are PINK, not red. And those look like gogo boots to me. It's amazing.
Quote from: StoreBrand on December 19, 2010, 03:50:39 AM
lol, it's hard to see in that picture but those uniforms are PINK, not red. And those look like gogo boots to me. It's amazing.
Do you think they march into battle like that?
(Almost worth going to War with them)
Aw, sorry. Civilian Reserve, I think.
That's OK, I can be civil if I have to.
On closer inspection, they don't look Chinese at all. Note the pointed ears, and haircuts. First, I thought they might be Vulcans, but Vulcans aren't so Militaristic, so that just leaves the Romulans. And the only Romulans who would dare to all turn up to the same Gig, in the same clothes would be the Special Romulan Elite Military Intelligence Corps, the T'al Shiar! (Do you think the Chinese know they have been infiltrated by Romulan fifth columnists?) It wasn't in the last Wikileaks burst, because I always specifically check for any Romulan activity. The Cardassian takeover of the Vatican City was bad enough, but this? Could mean trouble!
Quote from: Eve on December 18, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
QuoteIn the end, it is not our military that protects this country but the Almighty God's blessing upon our military as well as our shores and borders. It's His laws and moral code that this nation was founded on and our acceptance of them has been why we've been blessed. We are not a special people ; He's the one who is special. Do citizens of other nations declare allegiance to be "under God" as we do? Does the passage of this bill honor HIm? To me, it seems serving self-interest.
Guess we've been doing it wrong!
Stalin had a saying applicable to this situation which, with a minor twist, could be perfectly used here:
"The Almighty God? How many legions does
he have?"
Also, I am surprised. First, that this actually passed the Senate without Collins pulling another Spectacular Procedural Stunt. Second, the major cheerleader of this was otherwise major asshole supreme Joe Lieberman.
Now we just gotta see what Obama does. On the one hand, it was passed with what was clear majority support from the Senate. On the other hand, Obama only ever capitulates to Republicans. How he triangulates this is very hard to say, though I'm leaning towards him signing it, if only because the vote from the LBGT has gone down considerably from 2008*, and Obama now has to worry about being a single term President.
*See? What the fuck have I been saying all this time?
Leverage, people. It's Negotiation 101.
Quote from: BadBeast on December 19, 2010, 01:34:22 AM
Quote from: StoreBrand on December 19, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
The Chinese have a uniform to go with those guns...
http://personal.amy-wong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/china-60-years-03.jpg
Wow! A Synchronised Army of sexy robo-chinky-chicks, in natty red Uniforms, shiny white Cowboy boots, all armed with SMG's? I'm sure I had that idea first, as a fantasy, and never told anyone about it!
**Get out of my head, you clairvoyant Communist fantasy thieves!** :argh!: :tinfoilhat:
(http://i.imgur.com/oaHYY.jpg)
I SURRENDER! SPANK ME?
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 19, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on December 19, 2010, 01:34:22 AM
Quote from: StoreBrand on December 19, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
The Chinese have a uniform to go with those guns...
http://personal.amy-wong.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/china-60-years-03.jpg
Wow! A Synchronised Army of sexy robo-chinky-chicks, in natty red Uniforms, shiny white Cowboy boots, all armed with SMG's? I'm sure I had that idea first, as a fantasy, and never told anyone about it!
**Get out of my head, you clairvoyant Communist fantasy thieves!** :argh!: :tinfoilhat:
(http://i.imgur.com/oaHYY.jpg)
I SURRENDER! SPANK ME?
^^^"Look, Glorious Comrade-Sisters,^^^ See the soft, corrupt underberry of Imperiarist Capitarism"^^^!
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Exactly. I wish to hell DREAM had been passed as well.
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 22, 2010, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Exactly. I wish to hell DREAM had been passed as well.
*sigh*
One step at a time, i guess...
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
I really do think it is a big deal as far as equality goes. I am kind of surprised the republicans didn't hold things up, but I suppose closing one of the loopholes to get out of the army was important enough for them to choose not to do so.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on December 23, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
I really do think it is a big deal as far as equality goes. I am kind of surprised the republicans didn't hold things up, but I suppose closing one of the loopholes to get out of the army was important enough for them to choose not to do so.
You cynical fucker! :lulz:
Quote from: BadBeast on December 23, 2010, 02:19:52 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on December 23, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
I really do think it is a big deal as far as equality goes. I am kind of surprised the republicans didn't hold things up, but I suppose closing one of the loopholes to get out of the army was important enough for them to choose not to do so.
You cynical fucker! :lulz:
One man's cynicism is another man's truth...or something to that effect.
I'm sure the Republican's roll over on this was dead-horse related, given that the American public really has no issue with this in majority.
Anything that pisses Fred Phelps off is good enough for me.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Huh? explain that one to me? As far as I could tell from the news I read, the DADT rule is no more, and that's good, right? Did they slip in something devious?
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2010, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Huh? explain that one to me? As far as I could tell from the news I read, the DADT rule is no more, and that's good, right? Did they slip in something devious?
Useless war is useless.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2010, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Huh? explain that one to me? As far as I could tell from the news I read, the DADT rule is no more, and that's good, right? Did they slip in something devious?
I believe LMNO is saying that joining the military is slightly less profitable than cheating a Vegas casino.
Phox,
Misses her brother.
Quote from: Jenne on December 23, 2010, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on December 23, 2010, 02:19:52 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on December 23, 2010, 01:22:14 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 22, 2010, 08:43:32 PM
Well, it passed and got signed.
Although I'm psyched there's been another step forward in equality, "the right to be killed in a desert for no meaningful reason" doesn't exactly thrill me.
I really do think it is a big deal as far as equality goes. I am kind of surprised the republicans didn't hold things up, but I suppose closing one of the loopholes to get out of the army was important enough for them to choose not to do so.
You cynical fucker! :lulz:
One man's cynicism is another man's truth...or something to that effect.
I'm sure the Republican's roll over on this was dead-horse related, given that the American public really has no issue with this in majority.
I think it has more to do with the court case that's going through the system. Lets them look like they're in control instead of having the courts force them to be decent.
They just wanted to go home for xmas.
Sen. Kyl was whining that he was being made to work Xmas week, as I recall.
LIKE MOST AMERICANS WITH REAL JOBS!
How terrible.
Quote from: Cain on December 23, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
Sen. Kyl was whining that he was being made to work Xmas week, as I recall.
LIKE MOST AMERICANS WITH REAL JOBS!
How terrible.
Sitting around on his fat arse, being an opinionated blowhard? Call that work? I can do that all day long, standing on my head.
Yeah, he pitched a class A fit over having to work.
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 23, 2010, 11:16:37 PM
Yeah, he pitched a class A fit over having to work.
Worse than Rog did on Sunday? :lulz:
Oh it was worse than that--it was "OH THEY ARE ANTI-CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR HIGH HOLY WEEK!!!!!" Yeah, they went THERE. Asking Kyl to work was tantamount to ATTACKING JESUS.
We need a "Godwin's Law" type of thing for Christians and Christmas for chrissake.
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Oh it was worse than that--it was "OH THEY ARE ANTI-CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR HIGH HOLY WEEK!!!!!" Yeah, they went THERE. Asking Kyl to work was tantamount to ATTACKING JESUS.
We need a "Godwin's Law" type of thing for Christians and Christmas for chrissake.
Your Christians seem a degree worse then ours. No one here gives a shit.
Quote from: Faust on December 27, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Oh it was worse than that--it was "OH THEY ARE ANTI-CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR HIGH HOLY WEEK!!!!!" Yeah, they went THERE. Asking Kyl to work was tantamount to ATTACKING JESUS.
We need a "Godwin's Law" type of thing for Christians and Christmas for chrissake.
Your Christians seem a degree worse then ours. No one here gives a shit.
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
I took a breath and reached DEEP into my PD-dom and said the following, "Yeah, the Christians in the US are the largest majority I've ever heard of screaming about how they are victimized for not being allowed to express themselves, when there's a new box church with a Starbucks inside going up on every street corner!"
And then my husband hit them with the one-two punch of "no mosque on Ground Zero." Yeah, they dropped that schtick quickly.
Nicely done!
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
It's a case of swallowing wholesale of what is spoonfed to them about their own culture. My dad does it WAY less than my mom--seems he actually listened to NPR and read the LAX's and The Economist while in the clink. Not that he rounded out his views to the point of meeting me halfway, but he is going to think twice about parroting the Bible Thumping Brochure in the future.
My mom won't pay any fucking attention, however. She's a lost cause.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 27, 2010, 06:23:57 PM
Nicely done!
Thanks...though I have to say it ended the evening on one of those sour notes of, can't wait to get out of the car and get away from each other before something more explosive is said.
One really shouldn't ever end the holi-daze on politics and religion, BOTH, at 10 pm, after driving 250 mi roundtrip...
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
It's a case of swallowing wholesale of what is spoonfed to them about their own culture. My dad does it WAY less than my mom--seems he actually listened to NPR and read the LAX's and The Economist while in the clink. Not that he rounded out his views to the point of meeting me halfway, but he is going to think twice about parroting the Bible Thumping Brochure in the future.
My mom won't pay any fucking attention, however. She's a lost cause.
So take it over the top. Tell her you read that Obama is thinking of making everything other than Pentacostal Christianity a federal offense.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
It's a case of swallowing wholesale of what is spoonfed to them about their own culture. My dad does it WAY less than my mom--seems he actually listened to NPR and read the LAX's and The Economist while in the clink. Not that he rounded out his views to the point of meeting me halfway, but he is going to think twice about parroting the Bible Thumping Brochure in the future.
My mom won't pay any fucking attention, however. She's a lost cause.
So take it over the top. Tell her you read that Obama is thinking of making everything other than Pentacostal Christianity a federal offense.
This has distinct possibilities.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
It's a case of swallowing wholesale of what is spoonfed to them about their own culture. My dad does it WAY less than my mom--seems he actually listened to NPR and read the LAX's and The Economist while in the clink. Not that he rounded out his views to the point of meeting me halfway, but he is going to think twice about parroting the Bible Thumping Brochure in the future.
My mom won't pay any fucking attention, however. She's a lost cause.
So take it over the top. Tell her you read that Obama is thinking of making everything other than Pentacostal Christianity a federal offense.
:lulz: Well, she is not so nuts as to be a Birther or Truther. I don't want to give that impression. But she's actually more of a Dittohead than she has any right to be.
And she isn't stupid, and has already heard me complain bitterly that Obama's making it such that his presidency's a flop progressive-wise and how he is not delivering, might as well be McCain in there right now, blah blah.
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 27, 2010, 06:22:49 PM
My parents, last night, swear to fucking gawd, were whining about how they don't have the FREEDOM in this society to express their Christianity.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CASE OF BATTERED WHITE MAN SYNDROME!
It's a case of swallowing wholesale of what is spoonfed to them about their own culture. My dad does it WAY less than my mom--seems he actually listened to NPR and read the LAX's and The Economist while in the clink. Not that he rounded out his views to the point of meeting me halfway, but he is going to think twice about parroting the Bible Thumping Brochure in the future.
My mom won't pay any fucking attention, however. She's a lost cause.
So take it over the top. Tell her you read that Obama is thinking of making everything other than Pentacostal Christianity a federal offense.
:lulz: Well, she is not so nuts as to be a Birther or Truther. I don't want to give that impression. But she's actually more of a Dittohead than she has any right to be.
And she isn't stupid, and has already heard me complain bitterly that Obama's making it such that his presidency's a flop progressive-wise and how he is not delivering, might as well be McCain in there right now, blah blah.
HAW HAW, POE'S LAW WINS AGAIN:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/tea_party_nation_founder_lets_get_rid_of_the_socia.php
QuoteTea Party Nation Founder: Let's Get Rid Of The 'Socialist' Methodist Church
Jillian Rayfield | December 20, 2010, 12:24PM
Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips has a dream: "No more Methodist Church."
A blog post on his Tea Party Nation page says that on Friday he walked by the United Methodist Building in Washington D.C., which had a sign that said, "Pass the DREAM Act." Phillips wrote: " I have a DREAM. That is, no more United Methodist Church."
Phillips explains that he was formerly a member of the church, but he left because it's "the first Church of Karl Marx," and "little more than the "religious" arm of socialism."
"The Methodist church is pro-illegal immigration," he continues. "They have been in the bag for socialist health care, going as far as sending out emails to their membership "debunking" the myths of Obamacare. Say, where are the liberal complaints on the separation of church and state?"
"In short, if you hate America, you have a great future in the Methodist church," he says.
Phillips has recently argued that it's a "wise idea" to only let property owners vote. He's also defended an email he wrote calling for supporters to help "retire" Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) because "he is the only Muslim member of congress."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn3V3KuhaM&feature=player_embedded
Bumped for the USMC Commandant and Command Sergeant Major speaking on DADT.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 01, 2011, 01:40:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn3V3KuhaM&feature=player_embedded
Bumped for the USMC Commandant and Command Sergeant Major speaking on DADT.
Well, if you gotta go with cheesy promo vids, that's the way to do it.
PS FUCK YEAH!
Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 01, 2011, 01:47:32 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 01, 2011, 01:40:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn3V3KuhaM&feature=player_embedded
Bumped for the USMC Commandant and Command Sergeant Major speaking on DADT.
Well, if you gotta go with cheesy promo vids, that's the way to do it.
PS FUCK YEAH!
That is a pretty well done one considering how shitty most of them are. The USMC must have more bored privates than the Army.
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 01, 2011, 01:55:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 01, 2011, 01:47:32 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans eques on February 01, 2011, 01:40:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn3V3KuhaM&feature=player_embedded
Bumped for the USMC Commandant and Command Sergeant Major speaking on DADT.
Well, if you gotta go with cheesy promo vids, that's the way to do it.
PS FUCK YEAH!
That is a pretty well done one considering how shitty most of them are. The USMC must have more bored privates than the Army.
Oh, yeah, I know. And they probably do.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/01/ap-military-pentagon-to-outline-dadt-training-012611/
In which nothing is actually said. I got a memorandum from the I Corp PAO(public affairs office) on this, but it's marked FOUO so I can't share it. But I can share the oficce numbers for the I Corp, IMCOM, FORSCOM and the Office of Secretary of Defense Public Affairs Offices, if anyone wanted them.
Stupid Army.
Link no worky for me, Coyote-san.
Quote from: Jenne on February 01, 2011, 02:23:05 AM
Link no worky for me, Coyote-san.
Really? Quoting.
QuotePentagon to outline training for post-DADT life
By Lolita C. Baldor and Pauline Jelinek - The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Jan 26, 2011 17:18:13 EST
WASHINGTON — Pentagon leaders will roll out a plan Friday that is expected to give the military services about three months to train their forces on the new law allowing gays to serve openly, officials said Wednesday.
The plan, they said, will outline the personnel, recruiting and other regulations that must be changed. It will describe three levels of training for the troops, their commanders and the key administrators, recruiters and other leaders who will have to help implement the changes.
Under that training schedule, full implementation of the law could begin later this summer. Once the training is complete, the president and his top military advisers must certify that lifting the ban won't hurt troops' ability to fight. Sixty days after certification, the law would take effect.
Word of the plan comes a day after President Obama told the nation in his State of the Union address that the change was in sight.
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Post- DADT training
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said senior defense and military leaders will provide an update Friday on how the Pentagon is proceeding on the implementation of the new law, which ended the Pentagon's 17-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" policy and will allow gays to serve openly for the first time.
Morrell declined to say more, but officials familiar with the plan described it on condition of anonymity because it has not been finalized or made public.
Details have been scarce as the military has scrambled to pull together the dozens of legal and policy changes that must be made by all the services in order to put the new law into effect.
The changes affect how troops are recruited, trained and discharged, as well as how same sex partners will be treated in terms of various health and other benefits.
Some will be easy to implement. For example, recruits will no longer be turned down because they are gay.
But others involving benefits, housing and the execution of the training program will be more complex.
According to officials, the training will be broken into three categories. One will be for administrators and other leaders who will have to be able to answer detailed questions about the new policy. The second will be for senior commanders who will have to enforce the policies and also be on the lookout for signs of unease or problems among service members.
The third group will be the general training for the troops. That is the one that is expected to be the most difficult to complete because service members are scattered around the world, and many are in various phases of deployment to war or heading home.
In his State of the Union speech, Obama declared that, "Starting this year, no American will be forbidden from serving the country they love because of who they love." He added, "It is time to leave behind the divisive battles of the past. It is time to move forward as one nation."
Although Obama did not describe any specific time frame, Pentagon leaders have repeatedly said they will move quickly but carefully to implement the law.
Advocates for gays have called for quick action.
"For years, experts have said that a swift repeal process, accompanied by strong leadership, is the best way to repeal 'don't ask, don't tell,' " Aaron Belkin of the Palm Center, a California think tank, said Wednesday. "In promising ... to implement the repeal of the ban this year, President Obama has demonstrated leadership and committed to the path that has been proven to be best not only for gay service members, but for all of those who currently serve."
The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, however, wants officials to hurry along certification that the change won't hurt military effectiveness.
"We think there should be certification from the president, [Defense] Secretary Robert Gates and [Joint Chiefs of Staff] Chairman Michael Mullen in this quarter," the group said in a statement Wednesday. "We need to make 'Don't Ask' repeal a reality sooner rather than later."
Associated Press writer Robert Burns contributed to this report.
Ah yeah, I heard about this. So, according to the interview I heard, they broach subjects like "what if you hear badwrong gay slurs/jokes?" or "what if you see Lt. DudeAtLarge come out of a gay bar on his off-hours?" etc.