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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on January 11, 2012, 08:55:23 AM

Title: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
Maybe it's just me and my antipathy to the Boy Prince, but this recent talk of a US "return" to the Pacific strikes me as so much hot air and the US in search of a narrative, masquerading as a grand strategy.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the Pacific is going to be where all the important stuff is going to get decided over the next century, especially if Europe remains a basket case.  You've got China, Japan, Russia, India, the potentially very lucrative/dangerous Indonesia, the USA and an underpopulated/resource rich Australia sitting on the bottom of it all.  Throw in the religious interaction between Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism and a variety of national and indigenous practices, the vast flows of money through the region and the ever increasing influence of places like Singapore, Malaysia, Beijing and so on in the international markets and there is a very good case, rise of China aside, for a greater focus on the region as a whole.

So, what does the Administration do?  Chooses to focus on China as a military threat, seeking to deploy more forward-based assets in the region to deter potential Chinese aggression.  This makes perfect sense when you recall the USA frequently mistakes military action for a form of diplomacy, but it still does not bode well.  China is remarkably patient when it comes to US military posturing in the region, as I'm sure you could imagine the response in the US if China was undertaking frequent submarine patrols off the Californian coast and positioning aircraft carriers for naval exercises just north of the border, near Canada.

Furthermore, the Pacific produces more security than it consumes, North Korea aside.  Yes, there are tensions between China and Vietnam.  Yes, South Korea and Japan do not get on.  Yes, Taiwan is probably the most heavily armed island on the planet.  But mostly, what the Pacific doesn't do is actually go to war.  A greater US military presence in the region may lower the threshold for conflict though, especially by US allies who will then expect to be bailed out if things go bad (like Georgia did in 2008.  Vietnam would quite likely fill this role in any future conflict).  In addition to that, a greater US presence may help fire up the otherwise flagging jihadist insurgencies in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand.

The strategic vision is fuzzy, as well.  Apparently the US will forsake a large, onshore force in return for an offshore balancer role.  This is not something that has been considered in detail, but given the Boy Prince's love of the covert, I would expect an escalation of drones and special forces operating in the region.  Problem: against anything more competent than local insurgents (like, lets say, China), the US littoral access will be contested.  Aircraft carriers are tempting targets, and not anywhere near as robust or defensively capable as most people think.  The right kind of missile attack only needs to get lucky to shit up a runway entirely, and then all you've got is a multi-billion dollar sitting duck.  Offshore balancing only works against people who cannot attack you offshore in the first place.

Finally, this makes very bad sense from an economic POV.  By putting the Pacific under the US security blanket and promising greater scrutiny in the region, what this essentially means is that MNCs will have more reasons to leave the US and move to places where the costs of R&D, production etc are lower, regulatory regimes and laws are less intrusive, but nevertheless is a place where the USA has its eyes on and will defend its interests.  In short, Americans are being taxed to provide the military muscle that will ensure extension of the same kind of investment-friendly stability that prevails in the United States to the Asia-Pacific region so that their jobs can be safely outsourced to less expensive Asian workers.

I give this overall strategy a C-.  It gets points for recognizing the Pacific is an area to be concentrated on, and pity points for being one of the less stupid grand strategic visions of the last two decades.  But that's about it.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Telarus on January 11, 2012, 09:09:56 AM
I hadn't even heard of this. Thanks Cain.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Phox on January 11, 2012, 09:14:26 AM
Hmmm. Cain, do have any insight about Russia's position on the future of the Pacific?  I'm almost certain an increase in U.S. military forces at their backdoor would pique their interest, but I'm not so clear on how they would be likely to respond. 
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Russia already has ongoing territorial disputes with Japan over the status of the Kurile Islands, and has just this past year deployed its more modern naval forces to the region.  The idea of the Japanese storming the Kuriles is even more remote than the idea of the Japanese launching a first strike against North Korea, or not making seizure inducing advertisments, so no-one believed that excuse for a second.

At the time, most people believed it was to concentrate a greater naval presence to balance against China.  However, at a press conference, the First Deputy Defense Minister uttered a blatant lie about the islands being undefended.  The south is fortified, which would significantly slow any Japanese attempt at taking back the islands.

However, the central islands are less defended, and would provide for an attacker an excellent threat to the nuclear submarine fleet based on the Okhotsk Sea.  China would find it very difficult to sustain supply routes for such an invasion, especially with the Japanese fleet waiting to cut any lines of control in half, but the US could certainly carry out such an attack.

So, the Russians were preparing for a US return to Asia before the US even knew it was returning to Asia.  That, in and of itself, is very interesting.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 11, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
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Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
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Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
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Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing somethingOrange? i think i am correct
althought what you say did occure to me prior to post time 1/4 hr till tomorrow

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Phox on January 11, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Russia already has ongoing territorial disputes with Japan over the status of the Kurile Islands, and has just this past year deployed its more modern naval forces to the region.  The idea of the Japanese storming the Kuriles is even more remote than the idea of the Japanese launching a first strike against North Korea, or not making seizure inducing advertisments, so no-one believed that excuse for a second.

At the time, most people believed it was to concentrate a greater naval presence to balance against China.  However, at a press conference, the First Deputy Defense Minister uttered a blatant lie about the islands being undefended.  The south is fortified, which would significantly slow any Japanese attempt at taking back the islands.

However, the central islands are less defended, and would provide for an attacker an excellent threat to the nuclear submarine fleet based on the Okhotsk Sea.  China would find it very difficult to sustain supply routes for such an invasion, especially with the Japanese fleet waiting to cut any lines of control in half, but the US could certainly carry out such an attack.

So, the Russians were preparing for a US return to Asia before the US even knew it was returning to Asia.  That, in and of itself, is very interesting.
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the insight.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 11, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Russia already has ongoing territorial disputes with Japan over the status of the Kurile Islands, and has just this past year deployed its more modern naval forces to the region.  The idea of the Japanese storming the Kuriles is even more remote than the idea of the Japanese launching a first strike against North Korea, or not making seizure inducing advertisments, so no-one believed that excuse for a second.

At the time, most people believed it was to concentrate a greater naval presence to balance against China.  However, at a press conference, the First Deputy Defense Minister uttered a blatant lie about the islands being undefended.  The south is fortified, which would significantly slow any Japanese attempt at taking back the islands.

However, the central islands are less defended, and would provide for an attacker an excellent threat to the nuclear submarine fleet based on the Okhotsk Sea.  China would find it very difficult to sustain supply routes for such an invasion, especially with the Japanese fleet waiting to cut any lines of control in half, but the US could certainly carry out such an attack.

So, the Russians were preparing for a US return to Asia before the US even knew it was returning to Asia.  That, in and of itself, is very interesting.

Do you imagine that's due to their intelligence gathering or is it that the US is kinda predictable?
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Cramulus on January 11, 2012, 03:48:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 08:55:23 AM
Maybe it's just me and my antipathy to the Boy Prince, but this recent talk of a US "return" to the Pacific strikes me as so much hot air and the US in search of a narrative, masquerading as a grand strategy.

clearly, nine dimensional zen chess!

thanks for the insight Cain
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 12, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
Time to mention the Tables on ANKENY, Tuesday 5 Sw 2to3rd
Wednesday Ankeny SE 2726 probably same Mfg date
&to there was the rock pile on E Burnside @ Broadway ( no Trilliums?
Quote from: hirley0 on January 11, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
1:2
12?NoOn it is my #2 that those tables fall into the
OCCUPYi Portland, covert wing of the D mobile list it LiSt
&R not a part of the Overt Maids for prime time TV set setup
whitch i reaLLy dont watch but i guess is in the park BLOCK aid
OR maybe at Piorneer Square! Pictures later Maybe & maybe not
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2012, 08:04:36 PM
Quote from: Billy the Twid on January 11, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2012, 09:24:20 AM
Russia already has ongoing territorial disputes with Japan over the status of the Kurile Islands, and has just this past year deployed its more modern naval forces to the region.  The idea of the Japanese storming the Kuriles is even more remote than the idea of the Japanese launching a first strike against North Korea, or not making seizure inducing advertisments, so no-one believed that excuse for a second.

At the time, most people believed it was to concentrate a greater naval presence to balance against China.  However, at a press conference, the First Deputy Defense Minister uttered a blatant lie about the islands being undefended.  The south is fortified, which would significantly slow any Japanese attempt at taking back the islands.

However, the central islands are less defended, and would provide for an attacker an excellent threat to the nuclear submarine fleet based on the Okhotsk Sea.  China would find it very difficult to sustain supply routes for such an invasion, especially with the Japanese fleet waiting to cut any lines of control in half, but the US could certainly carry out such an attack.

So, the Russians were preparing for a US return to Asia before the US even knew it was returning to Asia.  That, in and of itself, is very interesting.

Do you imagine that's due to their intelligence gathering or is it that the US is kinda predictable?

I think a US "return to the pacific" was an inevitability.  Given the last outposts of resistance in the Middle East are Iran, Syria and the Taliban, and on the other hand, you have China, eventually someone would realise where the greater balance of threat actually lay.  Even if that threat is mostly one created of wishful thinking.

After all, China was the Neocon obsession de jour before the War on Terror ever started.  And Neoconism is now enshrined as one of the major American approaches to foreign policy.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 13, 2012, 11:41:20 PM
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Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia without impunity?
Post by: hirley0 on January 14, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
6 (44) 1st grade East wall Cooper Mt grade (38+6 44}? wood stove ASH
wheN i was in the 1st grade ( i was told {by the older kids)) the ART
or was it a science}? of :" putting the teacher OUT | After that it
was rather easy (once i had been told} &i'poise it became an instinct
-
now the point i was to make has escaped | at least momentairily |
i think the point was Pivot ! with a subtitle of DW.de | don't wait:
Look there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever the EarthThings aRe in
for a period i call RIF (Reduction In Force} Not sure exactly why.
= =
Myself i place a lot of the blame on what i was terming the once
per 1000 year event. Events that i do think (i mean did think}
(http://www.bautforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12743)
occur ? Just this month Jan 2012 i changed a line in my tune
: : :
thUS i am not as convinced as i once was. but ocasionaly return
to the pre 2012 LiNEs to check memory (whiTch is really going . }
? ? ? ?
the reason i pick Pivot, not return is because of theM Norse LiNEs
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.

Ok now I understand.

Been away too long.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 14, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.

He posted 3 links about the state of the world economy and then 2 links to sites that buy and sell Gold coins. Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 14, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.

He posted 3 links about the state of the world economy and then 2 links to sites that buy and sell Gold coins. Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.

If hirley says it, then.....


I don't know.

Seems like a mad prophet to me, but a prophet nonetheless.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
He could be commenting on the fact that gold prices have just started to creep up again after a sharp decline in the last part of 2011.
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 15, 2012, 09:07:15 AM
1 CAUAC  maybe i'LL go from pivot to rotate to spin to spiral

-
i did check & the TNM page exists already # 3
thus this must be about doing Number 2 WaWaWar'ez
= =
EZ now dont get me to far off bass. in the 60's when PS
was PSC { befor U | We (G) & i spent many hours playing
Avalon Hill war games Squad Leader blitz kreg & others
: : :
the final game was Stallingrad | the Russian front
after many hours We, (i mean i think we} arived at
the conclusion What we were taught about WW2 may not
? ? ? ?
be 100 % the way it was. for now my point probably is
something like the following LiNEs. exactly how to
spell this? i donno | it has to do with a turn to
the south of the advancing german Line. & what followed
/TilT\
i do not want to say much other than {that) However since
that day i've held an unorthodocks view of 2, & really
poise there were BIG Mistakes made? OH My well i best
move along to today Pivot about and see if AND can stand
~bt~
on its own? with no help from me | cause i Question the
tail in its entiety starting with the 01. and beyound
2012 01 14 Anders Behring Breivik
Guardian Unlimited - Jan 14 09:04am
.BB.
www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-14/anders-breivik/3772568
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
www.publicbroadcasting.net/whqr/news.newsmain/article/0/.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2012/01/13/norwegian.
www.sfexaminer.com/news/ www.breakingnews.com/
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next > .taiwannews >55->58 find.2ch.net
2 AHAU rotating around ten till 1
3 IMIX Not reely trying to AVoid the warT Tails Andrew said:
-
it just i want to be rather CAReful about what i say and do here
= =
i will now look and see if i can proceed along the ?"AND"? LiNE
BY LOOKING in the web from | Next > .taiwannews  | & from there
:  : :
to?1 http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/
2 http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/index_en.php {plug in ? A=no
3 http://www.topix.com/world/taiwan
? ? ? ?
Tsai Ing-wen to remain chairwoman of DPP to March 1
Dragon Year commemorative coins
Taiwan Stock Exchange Corp. is upgrading its trading
platform to make it 20 times faster,
/TilT\
i do not suggest connection to eithor 2 or 3 above
had to break my antenna connection to get away from 3
china post seams legit to me though.
at the same time i did not see A direction forword
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 20, 2012, 12:02:33 AM
4 sopa BLACKOUT
5 AKBAL
6 KAN #1 ABOVE "Friday, January 20, 2012
Prosecutors demand 4-year sentence for expired food vendor"
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 20, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
12 Oc  THE "pivot" Ocurred on the 8th floor at the VA
as the "Visual Fields" closed ad the move across the halls to the frames
display. Once the exit delay (123456.7 mS} ticked away my move out
to join the in office test conductors . the gals approaching my position
expecting a no delay exit were not in possition to prevent my passage
to port of lead FEE-MaiL's and by shoving 'ER south and steping forward
forcefully i was able to pivot first forcing the two to pivot, winding up
facing me (to their East {near the exit)) . the metals refered to at the
frame display were gold & titanium. the ongoing tail will be about Gold

6 KAN {ripe corn 10:42AM PSt for sure into rotate
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 27, 2012, 09:33:50 AM
~11:50:50
yEA I DID TRAVEL up From tenth to 13th
checked in earily | & waited around for
an "HOUR" | When my time came | some 1
else was OcCUpying | so it was 10 till
befor my Bp (164/90) & pulse were OVer.
-
I Left Just a Milli Second before NoOn
rescheduling is a possibility
NoT Pro.bable however | whats the point?


~10AM
Quote from: Cainad on January 27, 2012, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AMU
in about 1/2 hr ?
i'LL attempt to leave the fountain building
proceed up Taylor 10 to 13 (3rd story}
mostly to see if i get there after VA
yesteday: yes i did get back via PAtch.


13 Chuen
this is the story of the Fifth story
tbc
X-2012 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=28564.30)
  :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=30712.90)2 :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24920.555) i do wish the board would return to its old self
to begin with the ERA entered into HissStory Iran/contra
that i myself refer to as Icon Eron began May 18th 1980
Well actuaaaaaally  it began prior | with the taste of S
_
Some when after Helens Erupted S. flew to Iran from pdx
and upon return to pdx via NY (City) / scope etc the
print was pressing their version of their D'tails of exactly
= =
What was taking place on the Planet. Pres J. C. flew over
& as a student Of HiMan of course opened his mouth
without consulting me 1st | oh my | well i moved &
: : :
the i move again & again etc etc yesterday OR was it the
day prior (anyway this week} i,j was seen on the 5th
emerging from 510 (= photos due U}? and so tbc etc
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 27, 2012, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.

Once in a while, he posts stuff that I can recognize as geological information or spectral data, and my degree of understanding creeps up from 10% to about 30%. Which is just enough to start seeing little creeping shadows at the corners of my vision and I begin hearing things that smell like zinc.

[/threadjack]


Cain, you referred to this "Return" as the US in search of a narrative. I think I understand what you mean, but can you elaborate?

My understanding of all this is that the US will ramp up its presence in the Pacific as the War on Terror (slowly) winds down, as part of a desperate effort to maintain global relevance and hegemony. Is that accurate?
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on January 30, 2012, 10:13:52 AM
3 AHAU it's my suggestion to give the CopyRight to the
Syrian SITUATION to the web & charge TV an infringment fee to
broadcast any of this. Could it be once TV has to pay sports prices
the situations on the ground would dramatically change! would they not?
2 CAUAC DW/tv
PuRpLe knife}1ETZNAB   :fnord: 5:00a.m.Business?5:30a.m.BBC (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30489.15/msg,1142240.html)
brOWN 13 CABAN THE MAIN? Occupy Fountain lobby occures
on tuesday 1-3 PM | it has resolved into 4 part |d''c| (OFFice){NW) |Me/MeX{W) | the Tree/tea Table {¢Tr) | & CHild($) pLAY {e)
ON 2/21 the Iran'UN(s}? Ran West about 3to3 | & SpanYard > spiraled@cw
TEAL?12 CIB Alls QUIET 11:45to HillB / outLet. 1:23 LobBy
Navy ? Wise One ?/? 11 MEN {aw
9 ben
ORANGE 8 EB 0 KAYAB (TURTLE)  ff_FIX4:44pm COMBINED door assult
NAVY / 3 IX {Jaguar
its truely AMazing how much time i can spend chasing my tails around
with this new LOG IN AFTER EVERY POST procedures required. My guess
its either a problem with my FireFox or pathway OverVotes vo for short

OK where was i? oh yeah McArthers theory By CONstant ManOver?
so todays move was trying to simplify the data computer. however
any change in the proceedure changes the timing : & data collecting
is extreamly period sensitive |its bee so long since i did program: i4getit
So back to the warT | it did rain | i saw no Hilo's on the Hill = never looked
reaLLy its reel quiet on the western POrt | now off to search for NExT | Li
1. http://history.howstuffworks.com/asian-history/peking-man.htm
emains were lost during World War II, but plaster casts of them exist.r,
2: http://gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html
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Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 14, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
I think you might have put that in the wrong thread there hirleyO
Unless Im missing something

I cannot evaluate this post without my mind trying to hide from itself due to the implication that you usually understand his posts.

He posted 3 links about the state of the world economy and then 2 links to sites that buy and sell Gold coins. Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.
I DO HOPE U were paying ATTention to the times tomorrow 1/31 is another day to listen to 'ER[/color]
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on February 27, 2012, 10:57:50 AM
 :fnord: Next post 7579 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=7579)

2:30- 5 IK {wind) DW  news behind on AUS ?
Next/Prior link now stable P&# form not direct mess
the Hostage4Ransom aka I.con / e.RoN TAILs ? ATTack

:fnord: Prior post P3#40 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31362.15.html) 2:58:00 ? :46 ? this probably ends Time Study

TEAL TUES / 6 AKBAL {darkness ppnpost in effect ODD days
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 03, 2012, 02:48:20 PM
bbc : 7 shot in oakland Maid4TV school Lockdown? 43
6:45 AuSi yaught (68')
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 04, 2012, 02:49:54 PM
3 CAUAC v READ DOWN v
REMember now? Republican, Democrate, &World'Tater  RiteIn
Also let me be as CLear as i can about the NEW CLEAR exchange
Shirley there will be some, as i  do think McArther was correct
at his wellfare address to congress {yes i listened 2 the reMark's
i do not believe Neither the BBC NOR NHK nor DW.TV  THE main RIF will be biological means, not delivered by MissALL , however the Hospital reports
well continue {BBC)\NHK&DW.TV2 | as far as i am concerned  the Mid East "WAR"
stories are as phoney as the Money tails reported on BBC  AT THE MOMENT.
"boom time" | As far as the radio activity "JOEks" go? Shirley more Burns ?
so yeah i'll report here on the 3 races, win lose OR draw

3PMpdT ? 14:51 dw.TV / Nu.PoEm 14:51 cHILDREN?day CaRe ? 2:03:21
while Revising the entry above ? AM? my revisions were being revised as i
revised 'EM | BBc | bomb/trial/ Mary rose  | National / SamSmaLLe see new
40min aWay Rp prior to Milli Talk 3:11 / BoOo to thINK

WED 4/18 the CONdition on the ground{CARpet) R as follows
REMember the ERA of /-/ostage taking {aka child abduction) My guess
75-85 Carter\Reagan Transition  The ? Iran (kID} has cossed the LiNE
ANYWAY  that the way i see this : the coordinated moves (School busses to
the cultural district ( by the 100's * 40= 4K/miniMOV} Movie(NBC)= " GRim "
CH17?/? in preprep for mayday, May DAy Maybe | today at 10 E_ {maybe2
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 27, 2012, 03:44:12 PM
THUS: I TELL u NOW  igel Level 1: Last Logged In: July 2nd, 2011
watchM Him inside, watchN, watchM: etc ETC
in the SW corner POLE of NASCC watchN me outside
it may have been a year now since the D'lamma was there
:fnord: http://sf0.org/nigel/relations/?type=foes  :fnord:
By now 10 CHICCHAN the serpent has turned 440PM tail  (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32176.1125/msg,1174728.html)
. ^ READ UP ^ . (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,20156.1005/msg,1174591.html)

Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 14, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
in the wrong thread there hirleyO / Unless Im missing something
you usually understand his posts.
Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.
{Never mind:
? 13 IK  Today My ATTention has been diverted?
By the NHK report (from the south China sea } of 2 Joint Navel Movements
(NM) North by {Russia & China) & the Main Southern Group (7th Fleet
Along with Viet Nam, S. Korea, & the Philippines } probably in Response
to the Mexicans Returning back to Mexico for the 5/5 Holidays upcomming
TBC: 7:44 pdT :52 http://www.c7f.navy.mil/ DA NANG, Vietnam (Apr. 25, 2012)
:56  :fnord: Malabar 2012, April 9-16. (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2012/04/mil-120406-nns03.htm)
8:02  :fnord:  (http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/04/ap-3-7th-fleet-ships-vietnam-naval-exchange-042312/)
6 LAMAT  The BBC  has broadcast the Maid4 Prime time TV
version of the /-/ explosion | it reminds me of the Prime time TV 9/11 coverage |
their4 My view of TV coverage remains that the scream sold at action in the
same 1/2 Hr. ? 1PM nip time ? v 7:15AM pdT  1.9 INCH  JET engine 4Japan | sure
(http://i37.tinypic.com/182nub.jpg)
7:20:??.AM PDt

Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 25, 2014, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: hirley0 on April 27, 2012, 03:44:12 PM
THUS: I T topic has not been posted i

Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 14, 2012, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 14, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on January 14, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
in the wrong thread there hirleyO / Unless Im missing something
you usually understand his posts.
Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.
{Never mind: 086 }  13 OC{dog       
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 25, 2014, 10:55:37 PM
    Hirley0 wants us to buy gold.

{Never mind: 086 }  13 OC{dog No i don't ORanGE's
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 25, 2014, 11:03:21 PM


My guess (now that B.O. is in Japan / ?
the following will take place

My siding with ShangHi in the Isle DisPute
v
?/?

the West cost Eq within 2yr
the same day N.K. NewK Nip { subject to reRight
and PLUMBit AU, Pl, & ag2
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 25, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
An attractive gal {of color| named Asia has been d'PloYed 2 Blg:
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on April 25, 2014, 11:08:01 PM
Reply 32 4:11:00 pm pDt
Pi 07:33 What:? Pi 08:06 yeah:
the shooting/stabings have B.gun
ch12 & 2 | got.on.with.It   |
still no Wifi : WiFi:=9 nap=>12
Pi 03:39 2014 04/29 i saw B>O> on TV in the Phillipeans?
Pi 2014 04/28 06:31 Listen? it is Wait4WiFi. Maybe 9 T29
ad 1526 6PiGi the C.man said Koeran(s) and the "GOOD" FLOWER
WAS fROg i TRY TO BUY ? i guess {Maybe-
6 PiGi1530 There is 0 doubt in my mind! Japan {explative here| has chosen to
Rearm. I side with China. IT IS SIMPLE 2Me, OR = provide affordable death

6PiGi1535 1=>2 || Nhật Bản {explative / Well U get the AC. i'LL
BE SWITCHING TO THE COVERAGE OF CHINAS SEARCH4 MH / 4M

6PiGi 1=>3 Haixun 01 { Chinese patrol ship
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-03/28/c_133220878.htm

Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on May 04, 2014, 12:56:09 PM
ad 1545 v READ DOWN v From ad 1545 Waxing Fn
PiGi45 5/4<3 Fast.Frig = check on power plant Just a Min+d
PiGi74 5/4<3 13:00 Chinese Maritime Safety Administration patrol ship Haixun 01
PiGi84 5/7<5 yeah:? i'LL check the CL date: Err 4 {5 <3  7> Wi=D'La
PiGi90 5/8<5 Looked to me Like origenal entry Err |16:57?7> ЯU.war
PiGi 5/9<8 LiNKS: 4FALL.OUT
PiGi 5/10<7 >9  :fnord:  (http://enenews.com/professors-nuclear-fuel-fragments-fukushima-found-europe-study-significant-part-fukushimas-radioactivity-hot-particles-film-air-filter-norway-photo) 10>LoC8
PiGi1606 5/11<8 10>?
PiGi609 5/12<9 http://bigstory.ap.org/article/russia-displays-its-might-amid-ukrainian-crisis
?PiGi  5/13<10 1618PiGi  5/14<11 162122 1625 EoWax LoI2
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on September 23, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Warning:

5:30 bbc air strikes Mid.EAST
:43 hONG kONG PROTEST
:44 FENCE / 800 |PDSD ? HatCHit
:46 US + 5 Syria
_
& on radio shack scanner
a camper in a tent
to keep that wind off
=
147.045
xxxx
today my trip west
takes place on the 10:15 Blue Line
From SW 10th Ave
yyy
:50 Rockerfeller ? in NY today
:51  NY Live 7:21 {time change included upper left not active
  temp ? my AC ? 2 | Framework 2030 targets | emissions
? OCW 
:56 H.W.BUSH Air Launch | 400K >  :57 Funding by UNion B 5:58:40 =
7 = nhk
FRENCH HOSTAGE
:3 NYPD
5 WATER / empty tunnel / plan Nov=Jan
6 11pm 6am landing fee
7 : blocked | writing
8  confIscation ToTy CASE
9 SHANG HI | factory biotic limbs
:10 daily drinks  (not limbs   ^^^
:11 200 tourist factorys | water purifiers
:12 rain water food growth on roof
:13 EoSH Curiousity 30yr show | Artist | Tokoyo CAm
14: NY -> Nip | Lee/tools | cliptic | flower arangement | bamboo
15: 40 Yr. Place they live || Result | 3 | in China 1940 | Restraint
:17 Male - Femail | 2020 Olympics | follow ||| :18 EoL
birds :19 crested ibicies | v | RICE | :20 10% | 50% / sold out
:21 :22 ray of hope sado | :23 typhoon 450k shang hi
:23 traaffick 20KM/h S. Korea wed | Japan Thur 120mm
:24 sipan/Quam | Low P Tuesday | wild fire} | 30La
25: 22DC :26 :27 EF } 7:27:40 >/



Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on September 26, 2014, 12:44:47 PM
Friday v 12:22 Gleneagles G/R V B/R NHK IN 1H
6:47:51 = 4:40Board T
this preamble is for NHK @7 about  time delays involved in broadcast
:00 Spider Hr  East china sea  now  EEZ Kuba / coast guard Nov/ B
:07 from bancock 26, 46, on Line Thursday 1k | India China / CAMP 26TH
:14 AIRPORT HANEDA 5Min V 40 | TAIWAN'S | Robot 1.5Kg / rehabilitation
:21 Madam B /  6pm dark yellow/orange ? | weather iceland Lava | Nov
:28  EoB | Wemon  /\/\Akers
and other situations at the same time (?UN}

if there were any Time pop ins i did not see 1
Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on September 27, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
Sat 27 7:38:52http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/index.php/topic,18.0.html
limegreen goes here because it will be a DOWN week {GEt it? No?
Look this timing is way off | it should be posted after 7:37AM M-F NoT Sat Sun.
?10mI To pretend i'Z not involved in the CURRENT siLLiness is
ABserd? Look? yesterday upon Return from Main the FarSee overtones
were present & THUS the probable ClASH { DONNO | I maintain An Iran
vigial as i recall the RATS I SAW on the RR tracks when that ship was in
I also recall the May 18th Eruption Of Mt St. H & the Iran/contra ERA
whitch i refer to as I.con E.Ron .  So yeah TBC ? Braugh {German Beer?
What did it mean? the 10 min int was abandon for a 1 min one 'cept4EB&G
AWaiting 7 after  back to 10.3 & Asgar / Ca Sex ?
12:04:03 ad 1899 / 03:00 2014 09/29 | NHK | 10.2
Mt ONTAKE | COLLECTIVE sd | || | N | HK | 2.5 D
03:18 MKT R 03:22 Weather phanfone | Small Isl?Fle
6:05:58 am ad 1936 ? / 09:04 2014 09/30
been leaving ouT prepDDHR |  there were at least
THREE DC's +1 T.out | Lucky to fit a 2H time frame.
07:19 ad 40249 @ 1:58:00.AM 07:50 T.sync
it was rare to hear Caribian on 147.045 P/R
Stop S | slow N 
ad 1961.6:03:58?14:04 WeLL? Smiley time
thus iT's bact to Elm4 / busy/meet'ing 14:30 BBC
EboLa / Freetown | Boots on the Foot | 6M / 5/hr
76.3°
ad 1968.12:05:0503:43 Hill fired
strigic Location |3:44 HK | future investment
Brazil Friday Taxie 5min || t.L12:16 colition /baghdad Elm4.caL (http://www.erisbarandgrill.com/index.php/topic,18.0.html)

Title: Re: The US "pivot" or "Grand Return" to Asia
Post by: hirley0 on October 05, 2014, 10:40:05 AM
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03:30 bbc comercial audio back on  "ng Min."
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