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Started by Cainad (dec.), October 23, 2008, 02:24:30 AM

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Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: nurbldoff on November 13, 2008, 01:36:39 AM
I think the problem with most "fundamental" questions is that they are just too abstract. A question isn't necessarily meaningful just because it can be asked. Could you recognize "the meaning of life" if you found it, and if you couldn't, how can you look for it? Why spend your time and effort on it when you could direct it towards problems that you actually have reason to think you can solve? I've noticed that I usually find stuff faster if I stop looking anyway...

I quit asking the Question a long time ago and although I'm not 100% sure I'm happier for it, I sure have more time for actually doing stuff.

OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

Depends on what flavor of nut you're talking about. Some are very introspective, but restrict that introspection to a confined region. I'm going to pull something out of my ass and call it "fractal introspection": they can keep dwelling on the subject deeper and deeper, but they always manage to come up with something that looks basically the same.

Also, nurbledoff: when I see your avatar out of the corner of my eye, I think it's some kind of red badger. Then I look at it directly and realize it's not. :?

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: nurbldoff on November 13, 2008, 01:36:39 AM
OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

FUCK YOU!  I'm so introspective, I can divine the future in my own feces!

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Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2008, 02:07:34 AM
Quote from: nurbldoff on November 13, 2008, 01:36:39 AM
OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

FUCK YOU!  I'm so introspective, I can divine the future in my own feces!

TGRR,
Scatomancer.

In divination, it's considered cheating when you are, in fact, in control of the future.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cainad on November 13, 2008, 02:09:31 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 13, 2008, 02:07:34 AM
Quote from: nurbldoff on November 13, 2008, 01:36:39 AM
OTOH, I'm sure a lot of deeply religious people could actually use some more introspection.

FUCK YOU!  I'm so introspective, I can divine the future in my own feces!

TGRR,
Scatomancer.

In divination, it's considered cheating when you are, in fact, in control of the future.

Sonny, if I was in charge of the future, you'd know it!

TGRR,
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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nurbldoff

Quote from: Cainad on November 13, 2008, 01:55:14 AM
Depends on what flavor of nut you're talking about. Some are very introspective, but restrict that introspection to a confined region. I'm going to pull something out of my ass and call it "fractal introspection": they can keep dwelling on the subject deeper and deeper, but they always manage to come up with something that looks basically the same.

Exactly... it isn't introspection just because you call it that. Superficial introspection is an oxymoron.

Quote from: Cainad on November 13, 2008, 01:55:14 AM
Also, nurbledoff: when I see your avatar out of the corner of my eye, I think it's some kind of red badger. Then I look at it directly and realize it's not. :?

It's actually a fractal of some kind which I forget, that I generated using some program I've also forgotten (I didn't pull it out of my ass though). If you look carefully you can see that it consists of three parts which is the same pattern rotated and scaled...

The badger is probably lodging somewhere in your subconscious and is just trying to project itself onto abstract patterns in your field of view in order to tell you something. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about.
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Actually badgers lodging in your subconscious is widely believed to be AN OMEN OF DOOM!!!

... just sayin

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Quote from: Mrs. Payne on November 13, 2008, 03:32:58 AM
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nurbldoff

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 14, 2008, 01:31:03 PM
Actually badgers lodging in your subconscious is widely believed to be AN OMEN OF DOOM!!!

... just sayin

Interesting. Doesn't this mean that my avatar is actually the Ultimate Doom Detector? Neat!
Nature is the great teacher. Who is the principal?

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 14, 2008, 01:31:03 PM
Actually badgers lodging in your subconscious is widely believed to be AN OMEN OF DOOM!!!

... just sayin

Well, that's me fucked then.

                               I'm ending it before what the badger said comes true.
                               So long, guys...
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Lymantria Dispar

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Countless theologians, philosophers, and lay thinkers have been and continue to be obsessed with what is often considered the ultimate question: "Why are we here?"
Alternate forms of the question include, "What is our purpose?", "Why are things the way they are?", and "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I was just reading from Dr. Hyatt's The Black Book, Vol III Pt. II. The essay On Horns: Man in the World has something interesting to say on this subject.

"Man is born into an indifferent universe which means a universe without supernatural order. This means a world without otherworldly purpose, order. meaning or value."

<scrolling down a bit>

"Man inherently, automatically, involuntarily and continually creates meaning - he is genetically programmed to do so. But man also has the capacity to recognize that such meaning IS his own invention and not reality. Unfortunately, most men can not and will not reconstruct their primal constructions"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7383925/hyatt-chris-galts-ark-vol
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Kai

Quote from: Lymantria Dispar on November 14, 2008, 07:47:41 PM
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Countless theologians, philosophers, and lay thinkers have been and continue to be obsessed with what is often considered the ultimate question: "Why are we here?"
Alternate forms of the question include, "What is our purpose?", "Why are things the way they are?", and "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I was just reading from Dr. Hyatt's The Black Book, Vol III Pt. II. The essay On Horns: Man in the World has something interesting to say on this subject.

"Man is born into an indifferent universe which means a universe without supernatural order. This means a world without otherworldly purpose, order. meaning or value."

<scrolling down a bit>

"Man inherently, automatically, involuntarily and continually creates meaning - he is genetically programmed to do so. But man also has the capacity to recognize that such meaning IS his own invention and not reality. Unfortunately, most men can not and will not reconstruct their primal constructions"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7383925/hyatt-chris-galts-ark-vol

I think a lot of people fall into the fallacy that, because the meaning is self made, its not REALLY REAL FOR REALNESS meaning.
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Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Kai on November 14, 2008, 11:41:19 PM
Quote from: Lymantria Dispar on November 14, 2008, 07:47:41 PM
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Countless theologians, philosophers, and lay thinkers have been and continue to be obsessed with what is often considered the ultimate question: "Why are we here?"
Alternate forms of the question include, "What is our purpose?", "Why are things the way they are?", and "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I was just reading from Dr. Hyatt's The Black Book, Vol III Pt. II. The essay On Horns: Man in the World has something interesting to say on this subject.

"Man is born into an indifferent universe which means a universe without supernatural order. This means a world without otherworldly purpose, order. meaning or value."

<scrolling down a bit>

"Man inherently, automatically, involuntarily and continually creates meaning - he is genetically programmed to do so. But man also has the capacity to recognize that such meaning IS his own invention and not reality. Unfortunately, most men can not and will not reconstruct their primal constructions"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7383925/hyatt-chris-galts-ark-vol

I think a lot of people fall into the fallacy that, because the meaning is self made, its not REALLY REAL FOR REALNESS meaning.

THIS.

This times eleventy billion and one.

wade

yeah, i agree with the origional post.  Though,  I think the quest for such an answer is in order for the guidance to properly put into action something worthwhile and effective.  You know, set yourself up on a proper foundation and build from there.  I think the whole point behind those questions is so you can clearly see what it is you should be actioning.  The thing is, most people on that quest never get to that point and they spend their entire life being aware of their ass.  While most people are just fatasses waiting to be told what to do.
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