Stripping the Gurus

[Lies]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html

Great book which exposes pretty much every famous "guru" and is great fodder to use on devotees.

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

Enjoy.

[BabylonHoruv]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html

Great book which exposes pretty much every famous "guru" and is great fodder to use on devotees.

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

Enjoy.

Most of the chapter on Ramakrishna seems to be about him being trans and/or gay.  I fail to see the problem or why this would invalidate him as a spiritual leader.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html

Great book which exposes pretty much every famous "guru" and is great fodder to use on devotees.

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

Enjoy.

No it doesn't. In fact, the chapter on the Dalai Lama has absolutely nothing bad to say about the current one except that he declined to comment to a critical article by the New York Times, yet found time to pose for a photo op with Ricky Martin. It makes him out to seem like pretty much the most decent of the Dalai Lamas, actually, what with his chastity, meditation, and promotion of nonviolence.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html

Great book which exposes pretty much every famous "guru" and is great fodder to use on devotees.

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

Enjoy.

No it doesn't. In fact, the chapter on the Dalai Lama has absolutely nothing bad to say about the current one except that he declined to comment to a critical article by the New York Times, yet found time to pose for a photo op with Ricky Martin. It makes him out to seem like pretty much the most decent of the Dalai Lamas, actually, what with his chastity, meditation, and promotion of nonviolence.

Well, if its all the same guy, just reincarnated... then he did all of that stuff.

Also, the commentary on sexual misconduct was pretty fuckin' LULZY

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/index.html

Great book which exposes pretty much every famous "guru" and is great fodder to use on devotees.

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

Enjoy.

No it doesn't. In fact, the chapter on the Dalai Lama has absolutely nothing bad to say about the current one except that he declined to comment to a critical article by the New York Times, yet found time to pose for a photo op with Ricky Martin. It makes him out to seem like pretty much the most decent of the Dalai Lamas, actually, what with his chastity, meditation, and promotion of nonviolence.

Well, if its all the same guy, just reincarnated... then he did all of that stuff.

Also, the commentary on sexual misconduct was pretty fuckin' LULZY

Why are we supposed to believe that?  I didn't see the part where it says "by reading this book, you accept the belief systems of every religious leader discussed herein".

[Luna]

Ah, but he's using the arguments provided in the book on those who DO believe, so...

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Ah, but he's using the arguments provided in the book on those who DO believe, so...

Yeah, thats what I saw this as. Not to mention the comments on his rather odd ideas about being reincarnated as a computer, or that Sex during the day is bad, but Nuns slapping each others genitals for pleasure is OK... maybe some of his followers have no clue about some of his more controversial commentary.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Ah, but he's using the arguments provided in the book on those who DO believe, so...

Yeah, thats what I saw this as. Not to mention the comments on his rather odd ideas about being reincarnated as a computer, or that Sex during the day is bad, but Nuns slapping each others genitals for pleasure is OK... maybe some of his followers have no clue about some of his more controversial commentary.

OK, but I was responding to Lies' comment:

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

The book does no such thing, unless you buy into the idea that the current Dalai Lama is actually the same guy as previous ones who were creeps. Unless it's not in the chapter about the Dalai Lama, it had pretty much nothing bad to say about the current Dalai Lama at all.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Ah, but he's using the arguments provided in the book on those who DO believe, so...

Yeah, thats what I saw this as. Not to mention the comments on his rather odd ideas about being reincarnated as a computer, or that Sex during the day is bad, but Nuns slapping each others genitals for pleasure is OK... maybe some of his followers have no clue about some of his more controversial commentary.

OK, but I was responding to Lies' comment:

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

The book does no such thing, unless you buy into the idea that the current Dalai Lama is actually the same guy as previous ones who were creeps. Unless it's not in the chapter about the Dalai Lama, it had pretty much nothing bad to say about the current Dalai Lama at all.

The current one said that some people might get reincarnated as computers... and his sexual commentary...

I think I would count that all as a bit off.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Ah, but he's using the arguments provided in the book on those who DO believe, so...

Yeah, thats what I saw this as. Not to mention the comments on his rather odd ideas about being reincarnated as a computer, or that Sex during the day is bad, but Nuns slapping each others genitals for pleasure is OK... maybe some of his followers have no clue about some of his more controversial commentary.

OK, but I was responding to Lies' comment:

One of my favorites mentioned is the Dalai Llama. I've actually met the dude. I knew something seemed a bit "off" about him, and this book pretty much confirms stuff I've thought for a while.

The book does no such thing, unless you buy into the idea that the current Dalai Lama is actually the same guy as previous ones who were creeps. Unless it's not in the chapter about the Dalai Lama, it had pretty much nothing bad to say about the current Dalai Lama at all.

The current one said that some people might get reincarnated as computers... and his sexual commentary...

I think I would count that all as a bit off.

So you posit that Lies has been thinking "This Dalai Lama seems like a real prude, and has some funny ideas about computers?" 


Whatever.

[Succulent Plant]

I clicked on one of the source links and it went to a search box at the Mirror dot co.uk. Tabloid newspaper.  Hmm.

[Cain]

Things that are "off" about the Dalai Lama:

- The apparent persecution of the Dorje Shugden worshippers by mainstream Tibetan Buddhists, which the Dalai Lama has tacitly condoned
- The Dalai Lama met with and provided support (and, according to Hitchens, possibly cash as well) to Shoko Asahara, the leader of Aum Shinrikyo.
- During the 1960s, he was taking nearly $2 million a year from the CIA, who were also training Tibetan "resistance fighters"
- Nepotism is rife within the Tibetan Government-in-Exile
- That he routinely (I would go so far as to say "automatically") takes the side of India in all its disputes with China
- Oh, that he's a representative of a Theocratic regime which treated serfs as cattle and non-Tibetans as one step above slaves. 

Tibet's a highly complicated issue with plenty of bad guys on every side, but Western liberals tend to fawn over the Dalai Lama because he's a non-western (yes, I'm including Islam as Western.  Deal) theocrat, Buddhism is enlightened pacifism and because China are automatically the bad guys.  That none of these are necessarily true is just proof of pro-Chinese Maoist sympathies on behalf of the doubter.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I probably know more about the Dalai Lama now than I ever have before; thanks Cain.

I'm not a fan; I was just confused by Lies' statement because I went there and read that chapter looking for some juicy dirt on the guy, and all I got from it was that he's a prude with some funny ideas about reincarnation.

[Cain]

Yeah, it is rather disappointing, since all of the above dirt is available and has been, for the most part, since the mid-90s.  I guess the book's information is a starting point for penetrating this holy aura his western supporters seem convinced he has, but it hardly goes as far as it could in making a case against him.

[East Coast Hustle]

I think that being pro-nuns-slapping-each-others'-genitals-for-pleasure is a very noble and underappreciated cause.