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Apple Talk / Re: What's the Matter THIS Time, Bunky?
« Last post by Prelate Diogenes Shandor on Today at 09:56:41 am »
Exactly, this is how it will play out.  Family separation will be ended, which is undeniably good.  However, treating immigrants and asylum seekers as de facto criminals and sticking them in camps in the middle of the desert, will continue.  And so internment itself will be accepted as being OK, and then come 2020 and 2024, the extremists will come out of the woodwork and claim that family separation was too soft, that actually the children should be sent to labour camps.  And then the "moderate" position will be "send children to camps while parents do slave labour" and Serious Pundits everywhere will nod profoundly and pontificate on the moral goodness of this course.

Agreed. I would not be surprised if Trump tried to bring back slavery.
Bring and Brag / Re: THE FREEVERSE (COPYLEFT) [777]
« Last post by Goddess Eris on Today at 09:40:45 am »
If you see a suspicious-looking apple casually roll in...   :fap:
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don’t know what it’s going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don’t see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don’t believe it’s going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky’s ouster.

Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

That would be in keeping with the disappointing way the civil war wrapped up. On a related note, I kind of hope the south does rise again, so that we can handle the aftermath correctly this time, like how Rome handled things differently after the Third Punic War
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by Cain on Today at 06:38:10 am »
So, speaking of work...

HR have rescheduled another meeting with me.  Given we've only arranged two meetings thus far, and both have had to be rescheduled (in each case adding an extra week into the process), that is quite impressive.

Oh well, at least this means I can have some beers and watch Egypt vs Uruguay tomorrow.

And....rescheduled again.  No date given this time, just a "I will be in touch with future date".


I was "joking" that this would happen just the other day with my co-worker.
« Last post by Bobby Campbell on Today at 03:29:29 am »
Bring and Brag / Re: THE FREEVERSE (COPYLEFT) [777]
« Last post by Bobby Campbell on Today at 03:28:25 am »

It does, tragically. I was already planning to go but hadn't known it was a ticketed event until seeing your post here, so at least I'm more prepared than I was!

Choosing Goddess Eris as my username has proven to be quite a lot to live up to, but at least having no idea what's going on seems to fit this personal brand.

Ah that stinks! I'd be surprised if you couldn't still get in at the door, but I too am usually unaware of what's going on  :fnord: :fnord: :fnord:
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Recent Jailbreaks
« Last post by rong on Today at 02:43:44 am »
Morning fellow inmates,

I spent all day yesterday in the cell, just rattling my tin cup against the bars. I immersed myself in the news and felt all the things I was supposed to feel. And now I've felt them, but I'm still stuck in this body with the feelings. Some of them are mine, but some of them are injected. So maybe I'm not a prisoner, maybe I'm an in-patient and they medicate me daily with information.

And by the way, the feelings that I think were mine---I chose to act on those feelings, to let them into my inner sanctum and motivate me. And that feels good, but I don't feel free yet...

Let's talk about our recent jailbreaks. If we share how we got out of the cell, maybe it'll help each other do the same.

One of my recent jailbreaks is money. I am really good at saving money. I'm actually kinda bad at spending it. I was taught at a young age that there's a payoff to putting off pleasure -- not buying candy today so you can afford a video game at the end of the month. I dutifully save for retirement and investment. But this also means that I don't enjoy things in the present, I'm always thinking about money and agonizing over spending it - after all, isn't something better coming? So any time I spend money, I feel guilty.

I currently have two vacations planned, and I've been living real thin (almost like a college student) so I can afford them. My girlfriend asked me, "what vacation do you want to go on AFTER THAT?" and I felt the anxiety well up and flood my inner world... I had to say it -- I want to take a break from scrimping and saving just so that I can enjoy something months down the road. I want to enjoy the present moment and stop focusing on something months away.

I am recognizing the need to draw a line and say "that's enough." --- and give myself permission to order the cheese fries instead of regular fries. I recognize this is a first world problem. But cash is a significant source of anxiety in my life, which is weird considering I'm responsible, employed, and stick to a budget.

have you escaped your cell recently?

if not --- why not?

i'm the same way about money - i've found the only way i can enjoy spending money on a vacation is if I budget a certain amount of dollars per day - way more than i normally spend in a day - so I always come in under budget while also am treating myself.  that's like a win-win.  roll the unspent money into the next days budget and pretty soon it's "hookers and blow" for everybody!

i just got out of my own self imposed "prison"- i finished my bathroom re-model project.  new bathroom is fabulous, but i've been a tiling, wiring, plumbing, sheetrocking, painting machine for a very long time - feels good to not know what i need to get done next.
« Last post by PopeTom on Today at 02:20:01 am »
I guess this could have gone into Pics VIII but I'm putting it here.

Apple Talk / Re: What's the Matter THIS Time, Bunky?
« Last post by Cain on Today at 01:40:53 am »
Oh, and you're gonna LOVE this:

Answering questions from Parliament, meanwhile, British Prime Minister Theresa May said Wednesday that “the pictures of children being held in what appear to be cages are deeply disturbing. This is wrong. This is not something we agree with.”

There's some backroom wierdness going on with the UK lately re: anything to do with the US, so I would take what our PM says with an even bigger grain of salt than usual.

The thinking has been that May has been slow/reluctant to criticize Trump because she believes in the event of a bad Brexit deal, which is increasingly likely, the UK can pull the wool over the eyes of the US and get a far more favourable trade deal than they would with, say, someone competent in the White House (questionable, given how bad the FCO has shown themselves to be thus far, but that's the theory).

HOWEVER, lately there has been something of a shift at the elite levels in the UK, among not just sections of the media, but also the financial and administrative elite.  A lot of people are fearing a "no deal" Brexit, there are growing suspicions that Russian information ops may have been decisive in the vote (and the links between the Brexit vote and Trump campaign are even more entwined than previously thought), there are major security concerns about what Brexit will mean....and while that hasn't had a noticeable effect on the PM's conduct, it is likely exerting pressure somewhere in the background.

Just keep in mind that there is a large part of the Brexit iceberg that isnt obviously visible at the moment, and it's not clear what that means, or how it is affecting the UK's previous indulgence towards Trump.
I’ve done a little research, and it appears that the POTUS currently does have extremely broad power to grant “reprieves and pardons” on the federal level. I hesitate to use the term “absolute,” but his pardoning power is pretty damn close to it.

Here are a couple of pertinent sections of the US Constitution:

Article II – Section 2 – Clause 1:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Article II – Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

So, in order to stop the flagrant abuse of the “Reprieves and Pardons” power by the POTUS, it appears to me there are only two options available as follows:

1) A new amendment to the US Constitution.

2) The US Supreme Court accepting to hear a challenge to the flagrant abuse of “Reprieves and Pardons” power by the POTUS, and siding with the challenger.

So, it’s likely that the current, criminal administration could easily escape Federal punishment long before a new amendment could be written, submitted, and ratified.

And, based upon past history, I wouldn’t bet a thing on Option 2 ever happening.

Apparently, the majority of the Founding Fathers could not conceive of a POS like Comrade Spanky ever holding the office of POTUS.
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