Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways.

So working class people should vote for one of the biggest voices for NAFTA, because we would be embarrassed in front of other countries? Do you honestly think that even half of our "friends" are our "friends" because of how nice our leader acts on TV? More importantly, how in the hell are there people, after 8 fucking years of Barrack W Bush honestly believe a politicians kayfabe personality has shit to do with how theyll govern? If I was choosing purely on speeches and interviews, Bush and Obama are very different people. But when you look at actual policies, its hard to draw a line between them. They were two different people, playing different characters, but serving the same interests. Trump serves the same interests, the only thing controversial about him is his populist rabble-rousing, which a lot including PD it seems think will get out of hand.

A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy.

And Clinton's wont? Clinton also has the distinction of having damaged our economy before. You know for a bunch of people who fell hook line and sinker for "Hope and Change", can you really not understand why people prefer Trump to Clinton?

A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured.

How many people voted for Brexit? Are all of them crazy xenophobic racists? Every last one. The large majority of the UK is crazy xenophobic racists? Should people not vote for a candidate or a position just because bad people support it? Becuase man, oh, man you wouldnt believe who supports Hillary:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

You look me in the eye and tell me Tim Kaine isnt John Wayne Gacey.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways. A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy. A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured. A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

As a former fetus I can support that last point. I still cannot support Trump though because, in addition to your other points, he's a shill for Russia, because everything he has ever been in charge of has gone bankrupt, because he's a reality tv pseudocelebrity and an embarrassment, and because I believe that a Donald Trump presidency has the chance to bring about the actual end of the world if we set up this hothead with his finger on the button (and if not the end of the world than at least 1000 years of darkness). And these are just the flaws that are plainly obvious.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

I saw this quote floating around and did not fucking believe it but its real:

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders,

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

Do you honestly expect the people who were fucked by NAFTA to vote for THIS?

[The Wizard Joseph]

A Trump presidency is frightening because the guy is a blustering moron who is almost guaranteed to alienate our allies in some serious ways.

So working class people should vote for one of the biggest voices for NAFTA, because we would be embarrassed in front of other countries? Do you honestly think that even half of our "friends" are our "friends" because of how nice our leader acts on TV? More importantly, how in the hell are there people, after 8 fucking years of Barrack W Bush honestly believe a politicians kayfabe personality has shit to do with how theyll govern? If I was choosing purely on speeches and interviews, Bush and Obama are very different people. But when you look at actual policies, its hard to draw a line between them. They were two different people, playing different characters, but serving the same interests. Trump serves the same interests, the only thing controversial about him is his populist rabble-rousing, which a lot including PD it seems think will get out of hand.

A Trump presidency is frightening because the economic plan he has put forward would cause serious damage to our fragile economy.

And Clinton's wont? Clinton also has the distinction of having damaged our economy before. You know for a bunch of people who fell hook line and sinker for "Hope and Change", can you really not understand why people prefer Trump to Clinton?

A Trump presidency is frightening in the ways that it parallels the Brexit vote, in that his campaign has already stirred up some crazy racist, xenophobic bullshit that is resulting in innocent people being harassed and injured.

How many people voted for Brexit? Are all of them crazy xenophobic racists? Every last one. The large majority of the UK is crazy xenophobic racists? Should people not vote for a candidate or a position just because bad people support it? Becuase man, oh, man you wouldnt believe who supports Hillary:

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

A Trump presidency is frightening because he chose "funerals for fetuses" Pence as his running mate.

You look me in the eye and tell me Tim Kaine isnt John Wayne Gacey.

1. He's not "rabble rousing" or politically intelligent. He's either a wanton political whore willing to lie down with pigs of the worst kind, or actively a fuckin' nazi at heart. Either way... uh no. If they're both the "same" to you why support THAT guy? OH YEAH, you're all progressive at heart and it will fix things to your liking because backlash... guess that's not REALLY how supportive you are. Bet you're going to vote for him directly and stop pretending to support Stein.

2. Fuck you. That's a bunch of quotes not a destructive economic policy worth voting nazi to get out of. Mind linking to this "plan" instead of just a list of quotes? If it's a shitty quote war... "The Donald" loses, hands down.

3.  all I see there is a bunch of folks that might like a functional executive when the nice, reasonable economic policies handed down to us post Brexit come over here. You really don't know shit do you? Those are all resounding economic endorsement comparatively speaking.

4.  Tim Kaine isn't John Wayne Gacey. Now what? Oh... you're tryna be clever again where you got nothing really. Bet that's a lifelong pattern.

I already answered both of your questions like a trooper once. No more freebies until you answer my question. How far did the rabbit hole go for ya bruh?

Bonus question: Did the folks you may have met there seem like... sane and fit to run things?   

5. Aw.. Come on. DON'T JUST IGNORE THE QUESTION RP. It wasn't rhetorical.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

1. He's not "rabble rousing" or politically intelligent. He's either a wanton political whore willing to lie down with pigs of the worst kind, or actively a fuckin' nazi at heart. Either way... uh no. If they're both the "same" to you why support THAT guy? OH YEAH, you're all progressive at heart and it will fix things to your liking because backlash... guess that's not REALLY how supportive you are. Bet you're going to vote for him directly and stop pretending to support Stein.

So he isnt rabble rousing but he is somehow causing innocent people to be attacked. K. Hes not politically intelligent, but hes winning the election. And I am not a progressive because Im voting for Jill "the weak should fear the strong" Stein.

2. Fuck you. That's a bunch of quotes not a destructive economic policy worth voting nazi to get out of. Mind linking to this "plan" instead of just a list of quotes? If it's a shitty quote war... "The Donald" loses, hands down.

Define Nazi. (Hint: It isnt "person I disagree with")
And what Hillary Clinton has said in private to GOLDMAN SACHS isnt a good representation of her economic policies? I have literally no response to this, youre free to believe what you want I guess. Also I would define "a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders," as a destructive economic policy.

3.  all I see there is a bunch of folks that might like a functional executive when the nice, reasonable economic policies handed down to us post Brexit come over here. You really don't know shit do you? Those are all resounding economic endorsement comparatively speaking.

I never really associated Bank of America with reasonable economic policy.

I already answered both of your questions like a trooper once. No more freebies until you answer my question. How far did the rabbit hole go for ya bruh?

Bonus question: Did the folks you may have met there seem like... sane and fit to run things?   

5. Aw.. Come on. DON'T JUST IGNORE THE QUESTION RP. It wasn't rhetorical.
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Yes.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You know for a bunch of people who fell hook line and sinker for "Hope and Change", can you really not understand why people prefer Trump to Clinton?

wut

[The Wizard Joseph]

Im not a Trump voter, Im voting for Jill Stein, Im a Trump SUPPORTER. I support him because he is going to win.

Dude, come on. You''re smarter than this.

A vote for Jill Stein is an indirect vote for Trump. And if there are enough protest votes it will help her build a base for the next election and hopefully be on the major ticket before she passes prime-GILF years.

 

You know, reading that again IS funny. Mostly in a "dunnit to himself" kinda way.

You RP are disqualified from further hiding behind who you're "voting for" as a defense of your anything. Like really...

I'm thinking you pretended to eat "The Red Pillz" just to be accepted. I think you're quite intelligent, but if that side of the fringe seems ok to you I must assume that you know as much about the depths as you do about economics.
Go home.

Really.

[MMIX]

2nd attempt - my machine ate my reply and I accidentally deleted my failed attempt up thread. Not trying to make you look weird TWJ. I pressed the delete post thread and was really surprised when it actually got deleted. 

Im not a Trump voter, Im voting for Jill Stein, Im a Trump SUPPORTER. I support him because he is going to win.

Dude, come on. You''re smarter than this.

A vote for Jill Stein is an indirect vote for Trump. And if there are enough protest votes it will help her build a base for the next election and hopefully be on the major ticket before she passes prime-GILF years.

 

You know, reading that again IS funny. Mostly in a "dunnit to himself" kinda way.

You RP are disqualified from further hiding behind who you're "voting for" as a defense of your anything. Like really...

I'm thinking you pretended to eat "The Red Pillz" just to be accepted. I think you're quite intelligent, but if that side of the fringe seems ok to you I must assume that you know as much about the depths as you do about economics.
Go home.

Really.

If there are enough votes for Trump [actual or protest] then I would not be putting any bets on there ever being another election.

And your GILF comment is proof, if any was needed, that you and Trump are definitely on the same page. Trump is  sleazy, unprincipled and entitled, he is a lousy businessman with a penchant for fucking up big time and then gaming the  system because he is rich enough to do it. I wouldn't let him run a whelk stall leave alone the US.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Im not a Trump voter, Im voting for Jill Stein, Im a Trump SUPPORTER. I support him because he is going to win.

Dude, come on. You''re smarter than this.

A vote for Jill Stein is an indirect vote for Trump. And if there are enough protest votes it will help her build a base for the next election and hopefully be on the major ticket before she passes prime-GILF years.

 

You know, reading that again IS funny. Mostly in a "dunnit to himself" kinda way.

You RP are disqualified from further hiding behind who you're "voting for" as a defense of your anything. Like really...

I'm thinking you pretended to eat "The Red Pillz" just to be accepted. I think you're quite intelligent, but if that side of the fringe seems ok to you I must assume that you know as much about the depths as you do about economics.
Go home.

Really.

If there are enough votes for Trump [actual or protest] then I would not be putting any bets on there ever being another election.

This is my impression as well. A Trump presidency could spell the end of America and possibly even the end of the world.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And then and then and then

"GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY."

Pence seen fleeing the scene.



God, I love this election cycle.  Especially while watching a guy I had thought to be intelligent suddenly lose his shit and start jabbering about supporting Trump, like we didn't already HAVE a Brother Nihil.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Define Nazi. (Hint: It isnt "person I disagree with")

How about we start with his plans to single out a religion and make them wear ID badges? 

You silly goose-stepper, you.

[Salty]

You know for a bunch of people who fell hook line and sinker for "Hope and Change", can you really not understand why people prefer Trump to Clinton?

wut

This is why I went straight into mockery. I didn't vote for the 2004 election and the assumptions made by RP ITT are pretty god damned stupid. All the smug anime girls in the world can't whitewash that kind of stupid.

[Salty]

Come election day, I am going to make so much Schadenfreude Pie.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Come election day, I am going to make so much Schadenfreude Pie.

The next 30 days are going to be AMAZING.

[trix]

"Ron Paul"

I don't like any of the candidates and have no solid feelings about it one way or the other.  I'm voting for Clinton for one, specific, pretty important (IMHO) reason:  Trump is insane.  Not in the "whoa man that's INSANE" sort of way, but more in the bat shit crazy, lost touch with reality, complete lack of rationality kind of way.

I watched several of his debates, I've read his website thoroughly.  With open eyes and no preconceptions.  The man is fucking insane.  He's lost it.  He's clearly on drugs (and I mean DRUGS not like, smokes some pot) and has absolutely no concept of reality whatsoever.  Clinton at least makes lip service towards understanding the real world, even if her bubble is still pretty small.  Trump, on the other hand, is absolutely, clearly, FUCKING BATSHIT.

Just listen to the shit he says and does.  This isn't "bad at speaking" or "bad at public appearances" or even "media taking it out of context or too far" but actual, literal, verbal insanity for anyone to hear.

THIS is why I can't understand Trump supporters.  Even if all of his ideas on running the country were perfect, which they are far from, the man himself is batshit crazy and as president could do ANYTHING.  I do not want an American Kim Jung Un as president.  Clinton sucks but at least her motivations are clear.  Money, power, elite connections.  She will shit on us.  Trump, on the other hand, is all ego and ignorance and can literally get us all killed.

I've seen you debate specific topics Trump vs Clinton and that's fine, but what is your response to the simple fact that you are supporting someone that is clearly, completely fucking drug-addled insane in a way that makes Putin look like a man of the people?

I could post a whole bunch of videos of his insanity to prove my point but that would be like digging out a bunch of videos to prove Hillary Clinton has two arms.  It's fucking OBVIOUS.

Hating Clinton, I totally understand.  Thinking a deranged racist failed-businessman clown-god would do better, I do not understand.

I don't think you are stupid, "Ron_Paul", but I definitely don't understand at all where you are coming from here.