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[LMNO]

Y'know, it's things like that which make me realize what a terrible, sneaky trap TUCSON lays on people. It lures you in acting all human and shit, and then it turns around and GRINS at you.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Y'know, it's things like that which make me realize what a terrible, sneaky trap TUCSON lays on people. It lures you in acting all human and shit, and then it turns around and GRINS at you.

Yeah, pretty much.  It's more that we have so many horrible things to worry about, we don't even CONSIDER religion.

Also, the Calvinists have been hanging around the Nazerenes too much, and it's beginning to show.  John Calvin must be rolling in his grave at about 3600 RPM.

[hooplala]

They're just so damn agreeable.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

They're just so damn agreeable.

I spent the last two days (while sick), arguing with a Nazarene and two Calvinists.  There were some interesting conclusions, which perhaps I should write up.

[hooplala]

They're just so damn agreeable.

I spent the last two days (while sick), arguing with a Nazarene and two Calvinists.  There were some interesting conclusions, which perhaps I should write up.

I'd like to read it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

They're just so damn agreeable.

I spent the last two days (while sick), arguing with a Nazarene and two Calvinists.  There were some interesting conclusions, which perhaps I should write up.

I'd like to read it.

Okay, I'll get to it.

TGRR,
Allahu Asshat.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I'm imagining an app which generates a random string of letters every day, which is your deity for the next 24 hours, and two measures of time, the first being how often you need to pray to your deity and the second being for how long.

So the first day you might have to pray to sdfgkjfgh once ever hour, for 5 minutes. The second day maybe you pray to auebfhfy once every 5 minutes for 2 and a half minutes.

Prayer consists mainly of attempting to pronounce the name of your lord and saviour, out loud.

If any employer or educational establish doesn't allow this, they're trampling my freedom of religion 

[Reginald Ret]

They're just so damn agreeable.

I spent the last two days (while sick), arguing with a Nazarene and two Calvinists.  There were some interesting conclusions, which perhaps I should write up.

I'd like to read it.

Okay, I'll get to it.

TGRR,
Allahu Asshat.

[Pergamos]

When I was in high school the religion-in-schools debate du jour was about whether or not its legal to hang the 10 commandments on the wall. I was in favor of it. Because as soon as that's legal and protected by law, they have to protect the Pentabarf and the Satanic Commandments.

Except that you and I know it doesn't actually work that way.

When a religious person asks for "freedom of religion" what they actually want is a theocracy 

I think that depends  lot on who the religious person is.  If they are a member of a minority religion in the area they are probably actually asking for freedom of religion.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

They're just so damn agreeable.

I spent the last two days (while sick), arguing with a Nazarene and two Calvinists.  There were some interesting conclusions, which perhaps I should write up.

I'd like to read it.

Okay, I'll get to it.

TGRR,
Allahu Asshat.

Believe it or not, that's not even blasphemy.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

When I was in high school the religion-in-schools debate du jour was about whether or not its legal to hang the 10 commandments on the wall. I was in favor of it. Because as soon as that's legal and protected by law, they have to protect the Pentabarf and the Satanic Commandments.

Except that you and I know it doesn't actually work that way.

When a religious person asks for "freedom of religion" what they actually want is a theocracy 

I think that depends  lot on who the religious person is.  If they are a member of a minority religion in the area they are probably actually asking for freedom of religion.

I can see you've never dealt with Hardshell Baptists or bog-standard Calvinists.  If there's ONE FAMILY in a town, they're trying to tell you what books need to be taken out of the school library and burned.

Methodists, now, they won't fuck with you unless they have a majority, but then LOOK OUT.  No booze, no dancing, no BIG RED STRAPS, nothing.

[Bruno]

When I was in high school the religion-in-schools debate du jour was about whether or not its legal to hang the 10 commandments on the wall. I was in favor of it. Because as soon as that's legal and protected by law, they have to protect the Pentabarf and the Satanic Commandments.

I would have LOVED an opportunity to give speeches about my religious beliefs. I would have LOVED to form a Discordian prayer group.

As you said--these systems are so ripe for abuse. Just wait until kids are giving speeches about the Koran. Then watch these fundamental christian leaders defend it.


Wait a minute, this must have happened already, no? Somebody tell me that there is a youtube video where some preacher is telling the school board there is too much religious freedom.

I can't find any school board footage, but I just found a recent video of a news report on an attempt by local yahoos to get an injunction against the local mosque's cemetery that is Laugh Out Loud funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydNfIr2CqI8

Here's an older one that does feature not one, but two local preachers protesting Islam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=278lIMV9CgU

There has been some "controversy" over muslim kids receiving accommodations for muslim stuff in local schools, though. The footage you're waiting for can't be far off.



Also, joke religions are a fun way for kids to troll the system, but they aren't nearly as likely to receive the support from the federal government that a really real religion like Islam does. Not that they should let that stop them, or anything.

I think one of the things that bugs me the most is the fact that the government gets to decide what is and is not a really real religion. The anti-Islam people around here have been trying to challenge the really realness of Islam as a religion, as one guy alluded to in the first video. In fact, one of the reasons Judge Corlew recused himself from the cemetery case may be because the feds kind of gave him the stink eye for entertaining that specific notion a few years ago when they were trying to stop the mosque.

[Bruno]

When I was in high school the religion-in-schools debate du jour was about whether or not its legal to hang the 10 commandments on the wall. I was in favor of it. Because as soon as that's legal and protected by law, they have to protect the Pentabarf and the Satanic Commandments.

Except that you and I know it doesn't actually work that way.

Reality is funny that way.  Though It would be pretty amazing if some kid had the balls to pray to Mecca during school hours.

Oh, they do, multiple times per day, even, and the schools here are accommodating this. It's really stepping on people's apparent need to believe that schools are legally obligated to stop students from praying, and confiscate bibles and shit. It has lead some people to believe that bibles are illegal in school, but Korans are not BECAUSE: ZOMG! SHARIA! DHIMMITUDE! TAQIYYA!