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Title: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 08, 2009, 09:34:08 PM
Just to keep this place from clogging up.

Anyway, apparently black people (http://www.spectator.co.uk/rodliddle/5601833/benefits-of-a-multicultural-britain.thtml) are overwhelmingly rapists and knife-crime types and it's all the fault of multiculturalism.  Note the complete lack of statistics, presumably because they would show that, in fact, apart from burgalry in London, the majority of crime is committed by the White Devil.  You'd think Mad Mel's diatribes about Arabs would be enough racism for one website, but apparently not.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 09, 2009, 07:06:39 PM
Tom Friedman: Afghanistan is like a retarded baby

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/friedman-compares-afghanistan-to-special-needs-baby.php?ref=fpb

Yeah?  Yeah!

My God, I hope some Mujahideen beat the shit out of Tom Friedman one day, all while shouting "Suck. On. This." (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=7&ved=0CCQQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcrooksandliars.com%2Fcomment%2Fpermalink%2F137235&rct=j&q=%22Suck.+On.+This.%22&ei=MPUfS9KZKKSajAfj5ZW2Cw&usg=AFQjCNFnFVrhnQpatM4WBLSq4L1lGJNYsg&sig2=jhXosWmZe6p5g0r9nNvRSQ)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 15, 2009, 10:17:40 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/15/what_if_mother_mary_had_obamacare?page=full&comments=true

Chuck Norris explains how Obama wants to kill Baby Jesus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2009, 10:17:40 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/15/what_if_mother_mary_had_obamacare?page=full&comments=true

Chuck Norris explains how Obama wants to kill Baby Jesus.

At first I was like  :lulz:

Then I was like  :|

Then I went all  :lord:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 15, 2009, 03:04:58 PM
QuoteIn short, while President Obama was accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, the Democrats in Congress drove a sword through the womb of the unborn.

This made me shit out loud  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 15, 2009, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 15, 2009, 03:04:58 PM
QuoteIn short, while President Obama was accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, the Democrats in Congress drove a sword through the womb of the unborn.

This made me shit out loud  :lulz:


yeah, same

like, why are they targeting the unborn's wombs? the unborn are such small targets, it's much more effective to target their gigantic heads or something.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on December 15, 2009, 08:31:41 PM
On the upside, that means they're only slaying female unborns... or male unborns with weird defects....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on December 15, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
The funny part about that is that he wrote it down, presumably re-read it, and then thought to himself "Yeah, that sounds right.".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on December 15, 2009, 10:07:48 PM
Obviously Chuck Norris has been hit in the head one too many times.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on December 16, 2009, 04:26:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 15, 2009, 10:17:40 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/15/what_if_mother_mary_had_obamacare?page=full&comments=true

Chuck Norris explains how Obama wants to kill Baby Jesus.

Wow.  This man embodies the "legend in his own mind" principle.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on December 16, 2009, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 15, 2009, 08:30:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 15, 2009, 03:04:58 PM
QuoteIn short, while President Obama was accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, the Democrats in Congress drove a sword through the womb of the unborn.

This made me shit out loud  :lulz:


yeah, same

like, why are they targeting the unborn's wombs? the unborn are such small targets, it's much more effective to target their gigantic heads or something.

Actually I read it like the womb was the place where the unborn lived - kinda like the unborn's house. So it made sense to me in that respect. It was all the other respects that had me throat-juggling my breakfast
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on December 16, 2009, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on December 15, 2009, 10:07:48 PM
Obviously Chuck Norris has been hit in the head one too many times.

I'd argue he hasn't been hit in the head enough times. 
Title: No ownage like self-ownage
Post by: Cain on December 23, 2009, 03:58:12 PM
What conservatives apparently stand for: war, intolerance, kangaroo courts, and going backwards

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGI2MTQ0Y2YyYTI4MDI5NWRjYTQ0MzIzYzkxZTk3M2E=

QuoteI have over the past couple of months been watching DVDs of Star Trek: The Next Generation, a show I missed completely in its run of 1987 to 1994; and I confess myself amazed that so many conservatives are fond of it. Its messages are unabashedly liberal ones of the early post-Cold War era — peace, tolerance, due process, progress....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 23, 2009, 04:00:11 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 23, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
I think I found something to top even that:

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2009/12/while-glenn-beck-is-off.html

QuoteWhile Glenn Beck is off moonlighting as Alec Baldwin's "butt double," filling his special contoured chair to host his crackpot radio show is Chris Baker, a rabble rouser in perpetual quest of rabble to rouse. Media Matters reports that Baker railed this morning that the purpose of the health-care bill being debated in Congress is to "weed out the undesirables" and enslave those who survive the weeding. He also referred to Harry Reid as an "evil entity."

I happened to catch the show on WOR this morning and Media Matters is correct, so far as it goes. But my favorite part of the Baker spiel was when he announced at the top of the hour that even though Jesus is his Lord and Savior, he had no Christmas spirit this season, none. This health care extravaganza, moving toward a vote and what looks like inevitable passage, had ruined Christmas for him, and not just this Christmas, but every Christmas going forward, because each future Christmas will only serve to remind him of the health care bill that was foisted on the American people this Christmas, the Nativity scene in his head now permanently desecrated by legislation.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on December 23, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Oh man, talk about laying it on thick.  Did he start crying too?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on December 23, 2009, 04:23:29 PM
BAHAHAHAHAAA!  Love it.  You can't out-hyperbolize this shit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 23, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
OK, last one for the day, I promise.

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/22/away_with_the_manger?page=full&comments=true

Just...the whole thing.  This in particular made me laugh, though:

QuoteWhat President Obama, like many other far-left politicians, needs is a paradigm shift -- a new way of seeing America, which is really an old way. It's the way our Founders viewed America, and it incorporates a good ol'-fashioned Christmas proclamation of Christ's birth. That America is the one I outline in the new (January 2010) paperback expansion of my New York Times best-seller "Black Belt Patriotism," which is ironically the same Christmas gift I'm sending to the president!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 23, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
This makes me re-think the whole Chuck Norris meme, and whether or not we should re-write them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2009, 05:04:42 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on December 23, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Jesus healed people who didn't have coverage.


Just sayin'.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on December 24, 2009, 08:25:34 AM
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on December 24, 2009, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: Telarus on December 24, 2009, 08:25:34 AM
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:lulz:  :lulz:  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on December 29, 2009, 11:07:29 PM
Speaking of washed up has-beens who have no business discussing politics:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/nugent-obama-should-be-jailed_1126877

QuoteRocker TED NUGENT isn't a fan of U.S. leader BARACK OBAMA - he thinks the president should be jailed.

The Cat Scratch Fever hitmaker, a fervent Republican, insists America should be ashamed about voting in the Democrat, who took office in January (09).

He tells Royal Flush magazine, "I think that Barack Hussein Obama should be put in jail. It is clear that Barack Hussein Obama is a communist.

"(Former Chinese leader) Mao Tse Tung lives and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 30, 2009, 01:19:09 AM
Attn Ted Nugent:  Among other things, it isn't illegal to be a communist.  Also, you're a retard.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on December 30, 2009, 01:21:59 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on December 23, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Jesus healed people who didn't have coverage.


Just sayin'.

he mandated his healing powers...
once mandated he raised the rates
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 30, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
At some point, I may have to change the title of this thread to "Chuck Norris Writes A Column" Thread...

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/29/obamas_most_important_message?page=full&comments=true

QuoteSo let me see whether I have this straight. Obama's Christmas theology and mission is thus: Jesus is Gandhi. The wise men were non-greedy corporate executives on a baby tour. The "most important message" at Christmas is personal potential. And the "most important thing" children can do for their futures is read and do math.

God help us.

Of course, some people would suggest that it is not the President's role to be Sunday School Teacher to your child, but such people are probably Communists.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on December 30, 2009, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on December 29, 2009, 11:07:29 PM
Speaking of washed up has-beens who have no business discussing politics:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/nugent-obama-should-be-jailed_1126877

QuoteRocker TED NUGENT isn't a fan of U.S. leader BARACK OBAMA - he thinks the president should be jailed.

The Cat Scratch Fever hitmaker, a fervent Republican, insists America should be ashamed about voting in the Democrat, who took office in January (09).

He tells Royal Flush magazine, "I think that Barack Hussein Obama should be put in jail. It is clear that Barack Hussein Obama is a communist.

"(Former Chinese leader) Mao Tse Tung lives and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up."

The Nuge needs to lay off the Wango Tango. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 30, 2009, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 30, 2009, 10:49:29 AM
At some point, I may have to change the title of this thread to "Chuck Norris Writes A Column" Thread...

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/12/29/obamas_most_important_message?page=full&comments=true

QuoteSo let me see whether I have this straight. Obama's Christmas theology and mission is thus: Jesus is Gandhi. The wise men were non-greedy corporate executives on a baby tour. The "most important message" at Christmas is personal potential. And the "most important thing" children can do for their futures is read and do math.

God help us.

Of course, some people would suggest that it is not the President's role to be Sunday School Teacher to your child, but such people are probably Communists.

This would imply that to Chuck: Jesus is Pol Pot; the wise men were greedy Enron scumbags; the "most important message at Xmas is personal failure; and children should strive for ignorance.

Good to know.

Title: Re: No ownage like self-ownage
Post by: Kai on December 30, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 23, 2009, 03:58:12 PM
What conservatives apparently stand for: war, intolerance, kangaroo courts, and going backwards

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGI2MTQ0Y2YyYTI4MDI5NWRjYTQ0MzIzYzkxZTk3M2E=

QuoteI have over the past couple of months been watching DVDs of Star Trek: The Next Generation, a show I missed completely in its run of 1987 to 1994; and I confess myself amazed that so many conservatives are fond of it. Its messages are unabashedly liberal ones of the early post-Cold War era — peace, tolerance, due process, progress....

Wait, wait....I'm not quite understanding this. At first I thought this quote was a liberal bashing a conservative....but its actually a conservative bashing "peace, tolerance, due process, progress"?

:explodie:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 30, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
Welcome to America's Shittiest Website, National Review Online.

That place actually used to be considered intellectual (well, intellectual by the standards of American conservatism, which as I understand it, means referring to your opponents as "faggots") before Jonah Goldberg, K-Lo and the current crop of lobotomised bottom-feeders took over.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 30, 2009, 10:04:12 PM
Reading the comments at Townhall is doing my head in:

QuoteWhat we need in the White House is a Christian Taliban, an enforcer to guide the nation gently into the Way, to see the Light. Gently, lovingly. Or else!

I'm pretty sure this is a covert troll, but, then again, Clownhall comments section....

QuoteWho said he wouldn't want one of his daughters "burdened with the MISTAKE of a baby"?
Perhaps, barry, believes that Mary, unwed at the time of her (immaculate) conception, was simply 'burdened with a mistake of a baby'.
A radical Muslim could 'pretend' to be a convert to Christianity because lying is promoted by the Koran when necessary to achieve radical Islamic goals. BUT, it would be impossible for a radical Muslim to believe and acknowledge JESUS as a Savior or the Son of GOD.
barry hides well behind words, but the slip of his Muslim soul is there to see and hear if Americans open their blind eyes and unplug their deaf ears.

LOVE JEBUS HARDER OR YOUR A MOOSLIM

QuoteIf BO is a President it is certainly not of the America our fathers formed.

His idle is Communism.
His religion is Muslim.
Else explain how 3 baby watchers went looking and found a really nice kid to give gifts to.
Muslims know Jesus but refuse to accept that he is the son of God.

They mask their religion as peaceful yet since Abraham sent them off into the wilderness they have been anything but peaceful.

BO is just that which he appears to be - a Muslim.

His idle?

QuoteObama has no respect for the Christian religion. Obama is a muslim - he is a muslim - he said he was a muslim - what more does people need. He is not only a muslim but he is a racist - look at his behavior towards European countries - look at his behavior towards the Queen and the lack of respect he showed - look at the lack of respect he showed towards the white policeman. He is arrogant. I don't see the European leadership falling over themselves to be standing near him - except for Gordon Brown who apparantly is a fool. Watch what he does not what he says - he is so bull of BS - he likes to here himself talk - his actions are always different then his words.

I think this person thinks Obama might be a Muslim.  I'm not certain, though.

QuoteWe know where Jesus was born - perhaps the date is wrong but we do know he was born he Bethlehem but where was Obama born and why does he hide his birth certificate.
#

Well, we know where Jesus and the liberal-Roman media say where he was born....

QuoteHe's a Muslim...everyone except my husbands family know and believe that. My husbands aunt nearly screamed at me, "He is a Christian". I asked her how she knew that and she replied, "because he's told us." Point made!!!

Nothing says "I'm a Muslim" like saying "I'm a Christian".

QuoteCorporate Wealth Is EARNED
The usurper's message is that we all owe our earned incomes to the non contributors and the indolent. His "religion" apparently doesn't include a diety, but rather devilish theft. Affirmative action (other people's money) took him for a ride to the top. I will never believe he is an intelligent man. I see him as a mafia type thug who wants to ride the wave of richness at the expense of the taxpayers. As we go into the NEW YEAR my wish will be for his demise.

lol from the first four words onwards

QuoteJMO51 wrong, our Nation was founded on
the concept of God. Our founding fathers made that clear and it has been Americas focus since the USA began. Thanks to the non religious minorities imposing their standards our Chritianity no longer can be practiced freely!
Amen

And then the above poster was shoved in a van by Obama's radical Muslim Communist thugs, never to be heard from again.

Quote
Obama will stop at nothing,,,
....to advance his agenda of repressive Socialism upon the country.

Why is it any surprise to anybody that he would seize an opportunity to co-opt children to push his message?

Has anyone forgotten the "Mmm-Mmm-Mmm, Barack Hussein Obama" mantra that was pushed on America's kids by the godless Left teachers?

To you out on the Left, there is but One God: Barack Hussein Obama.

And you won't get that arrogant, hyper-egotistical, self worshipping Muslim in the White House to disagree with you.

For the LibTrolls here today here's a real message for you, if old Mmm-Mmm-Mmm succeeds and causes the collapse of America, you will go down with the rest of us. Don't doubt that for one minute. You are what he and his kind consider "Useful fools".

I just hope people I care the most about will land on you to soften the sudden stop.

Look out for passing buses, Leftists, Obama has his hand on your back ready to shove.

I know this isn't funny to most people, but most self-declared leftists that I know detest Obama.  So I find this post amusing.

Quotethere's always something nice about having vacation time.

It's always nice to get a chance to re charge the batteries

And in the coming months we need everyone ready to fight against the marxist agenda being forced on the country by the dc demonrats.

They break all their promises of transparency and allowing time for the bills to be read

Yet they have no problems voting for bills they won't read

But nov 2010 is coming and that's when the real change gets started

Oppression is always coming later with Obama.  Who remembers Yoo and Addington, who could give oppression on demand?  True heroes, those guys.

QuoteYou are absolutely correct, REAL conservatives and liberals cannot find any common ground. Liberals want socialism(which is godless) and our constitution is NOT made for ANY but a religious nation. Which is why the liberals constantly harp about it being a "livng document". They need to change it to their godless way of thinking.

Personally, I never realized that this country was so full of people who consider themselves to be "liberals" but are still agreeable to seeing our country become communist. At least, I am assuming they aren't full fledged communists like the administration, most of congress and ALL of the main stream media(MSM).

Speaking of the administration, can anyone name one person in it that they would vouch, on penalty of death, was not communist??

Yeah, Geitner is such a Marxist. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on December 31, 2009, 05:07:28 AM
Yeah, my mom called me a Communist on Xmas Day on the way back from my aunt's...because I was defending abortion rights.

Sigh.

So I haven't spoken to her since and will be keeping it short from here on out.  NOT that I think "Communist" is the worst insult ever.  It's because SHE thinks it is.  That's enough.


ETA:  Yes, Virginia, there are cuntish moms like my own who WILL insist on arguing politix on long road trips on the holy-daze.   :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 31, 2009, 03:46:09 PM
lol, history

QuoteDuring Joseph Stalin's rule, the trend toward strengthening the family continued. In 1936 the government began to award payments to women with large families and made abortions and divorces more difficult to obtain. In 1942 it subjected single persons and childless married persons to additional taxes. In 1944 only registered marriages were recognized to be legal, and divorce became subject to the court's discretion. In the same year, the government began to award medals to women who gave birth to five or more children and took upon itself the support of illegitimate children.
Title: Satire mortally wounded by Salon.com writer
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2010, 10:39:48 AM
http://www.salon.com/opinion/keillor/2009/04/29/retribution/

QuoteRather than square off in a bloody battle over war crimes, let's return decent train service to the Midwest and test out the German maglev (magnetic levitation) system -- the 360 mph trains -- and connect Chicago and St. Paul-Minneapolis, Cleveland, Detroit, Omaha, Kansas City.

Yes, this is someone seriously suggesting no prosecution for torturers and to get the trains running on time.

Does This Remind You Of Anything? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle2s6v9yii?from=Main.DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything)
Title: Automated tickets are just like being raped
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2010, 11:21:58 AM
Apparently there is this new website which is meant to be a conservative version of the HuffPo (because the internet needs more screaming, hyertical, partisan hacks with an inflated sense of self importance, it seems).

Now that alone does not exactly inspire high hopes for the site, but that it is, on its first day, comparing automated ticketing with rape, suggests it may not be a runaway hit either

http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/11/welcome-to-ask-matt-labash/

QuoteLegalized rape. What's that you say? Rape isn't sanctioned in this country? Then you must not live in a city with red-light or speed cameras, where it happens every day. Forget for a second that in one-fourth of all automated ticket cases, the ticketed  car owner wasn't the one actually driving the vehicle at the time of the infraction (what other crime-fighting technology do we consider reliable that nabs the wrong person 25 percent of the time?) Just as heinous is that every year, more and more municipal governments pretend that they plant these all-seeing menaces in the interest of "safety." Yet every year, their revenues tend to  increase from the very same technology. Meaning that the only deterrent effect the technology has is deterring your government from being honest about raping its own citizenry. If you're going to slide me a roofie, Government, at least take me to dinner and a movie first.

Christ, what a douchy toolbag.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on January 27, 2010, 05:02:20 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32072.html

Quote"Listen, Republicans will accept our fair share of the blame," Boehner said Wednesday, in response to a reporter's question about whether Republicans had the credibility to talk about responsible spending. "But over the course of the last several years Republicans have stood up on fiscal responsibility issues each and every time."

:lulz:

In other words:  you can blame us, but we aren't really TO BLAME.  :lulz:

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Aufenthatt on January 27, 2010, 05:34:06 PM
Quotelook at his behavior towards European countries - look at his behavior towards the Queen and the lack of respect he showed - look at the lack of respect he showed towards the white policeman. He is arrogant. I don't see the European leadership falling over themselves to be standing near him

? Where you even watching?

Italy?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2010, 10:31:29 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/opinion/26brooks.html?em

Hating Goldman Sachs is EXACTLY LIKE racism!

Matt Taibbi responds (http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/27/populism-just-like-racism/):

QuoteNormally one would have to be in the grip of a narcissistic psychosis to think that a columnist for the New York Times has written an article for your personal benefit. But after his latest article in the Times, in which he compares the "populism" of people who "blame Goldman Sachs" with exactly the sort of racist elitism I ripped him for last week, I think David Brooks might be trying to talk to me.

I think that's at least part of what's going on in his latest column, which is odd. If I were in his position, I probably would have punched me in the nose for the shot I took at him last week, but the response of David Brooks to being called out as a racist weenie is to write a passionate defense of the rich, one that includes the admonition that while blaming the wealthy is easy and feels fun, truly wise men should "tolerate the excesses of traders."

I don't want to get into the position of fixating on one guy for personal reasons. Obviously I've done too much of that with Brooks already, and I absolutely promise to give that part of it a rest for a good long while after this.

But leaving aside any discussion of Brooks the human being, this latest column of his is something that has to be discussed. The propagandistic argument he makes about the dangers of "populism"  is spelled out here as clearly as you'll ever see it expressed in print, and this exact thing is a key reason why so much of the corruption that went on on Wall Street in the past few decades was allowed to spread unchecked.

That's because this argument is tacitly accepted by almost everyone in our business, and most particularly is internalized in the thinking of most newspaper editors and TV news producers, who over time develop an ingrained habitual fear of publishing material that seems hysterical or angry.

This certainly has an effect on the content of news reporting, but perhaps even more importantly, it impacts the tone of news coverage, where outrages are covered without outrage, and stories that are not particularly "balanced" in reality — stories that for instance are quite plainly about one group of people screwing another group of people — become transformed into cool, "objective" news stories in which both the plainly bogus version of events and the real and infuriating version are given equal weight.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2010, 10:52:54 AM
Bonus article http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2010/01/26/an_open_letter_to_charles_johnson

Watching American conservatives apologize for Vlaams Belang (a party originally founde by Belgian ex-SS officers and supporters of Nazi Germany) never gets boring.  And apparently calling Ann Coulter a bigot is slander.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 28, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
If I was a bigot I'd be pretty pissed I'd been associated with Ann Coulter too.

On that list, number 4.  Do the conservative pundits just not get that abortion is the tip of the iceberg, and that anti-birth control in general is the issue, or is there some training vid somewhere that explains those have to be treated as separate issues when talkig to the public?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2010, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 28, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
If I was a bigot I'd be pretty pissed I'd been associated with Ann Coulter too.

On that list, number 4.  Do the conservative pundits just not get that abortion is the tip of the iceberg, and that anti-birth control in general is the issue, or is there some training vid somewhere that explains those have to be treated as separate issues when talkig to the public?

The REAL issue is a step deeper than that:  Women as property.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on January 28, 2010, 02:24:01 PM
I thought it was 'women as baby factories' but I suppose the property bit would follow pretty damned close if they got that anyway.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 28, 2010, 02:37:59 PM
Wait, they're not property?!

WELL FUCK I WANTED THAT DOWRY!!!   :x

Are they property if we buy them from the weird guy with the van full of smudgy people?
Title: Duelling Wingnuts
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 01:21:31 AM
This is hilarious.  By the way, the smart money in this (still ongoing) fight is on Pammy Atlas - insanity beats logic every time:

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/pam-geller-tries-tell-ron-reagan-jr

QuoteBehar: Ronald, let me ask Ron -- why do we pay attention to this woman? She has a point.

Reagan: Well, indeed, and I think we do have to pay attention to her, unfortunately -- it's sad that we have to pay attention to her, because she's totally unqualified for high office. Yet --

Geller: Your father would love her. Your father would love her.

Miller: First of all, his father didn't quit halfway through the term.

Geller: Neither did she. Neither did she. She did not quit. The Lower 48 needed her, and she heeded the call. She did not take the easy way out.

Reagan: No, she quit. No, Pam, she quit. When you leave the governorship halfway through your first term, it's called quitting. She quit.

Geller: She came to lead the next revolution.

Reagan: Quit. Quit.

Behar: Ron, Ron -- no, I want to hear from Ron. Why would your father not like this woman?

Reagan: Because she doesn't have a thought in her head. That's why.

Geller: That's what they said about your father.

Reagan: My father knew what he stood for, you can agree with it or disagree with it, he knew how -- what he stood for, he could explain what he stood for. He was conversant in domestic and foreign policy -- she's neither! She can't explain where she stands on anything!

Geller: Your father would love her, and frankly I don't think you can speak for your father, because you -- you don't even espouse --

Reagan: No, Pam, actually, have you ever met my father, Pam? Pam, did you ever meet my father?

Geller: Did you ever meet the Founding Father. I've read everything he said. I've read everything he said.

Reagan: Did you ever meet my father? I'm asking you a simple question. You can't answer that because the answer is no. So why don't you rely on someone who knew him very well to tell you what he would think of Sarah Palin.

Behar: It's really hard for you to argue with the offspring of the guy and claim you know more than he does.

Geller: He's nothing like the father! He doesn't share the epistemology of the father. He doesn't have the nature of his father, the knowledge -- he has nothing in common with the father. Look --

Behar: He knows what his father would think rather than you.

Who is the Founding Father, anyway?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 11, 2010, 02:44:16 AM
Ronald Reagan?

I guess he's considered by some to be the founding father of modern conservatism?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 09:40:18 AM
Could be though I'm pretty sure Reagan Jr would've met his dad.  Also, did Reagan write any books?

Ahem, I mean YOU DON'T SHARE THE EPISTEMOLOGY OF THE FOUNDING FATHER!  YOU DON'T SHARE THE NATURE OF THE FOUNDING FATHER, THE KNOWLEDGE, YOU HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THE FOUNDING FATHER!
Title: Re: Duelling Wingnuts
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 11, 2010, 01:21:31 AM
Who is the Founding Father, anyway?


JESUS.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 03:11:30 PM
The funniest thing about this argument is both sides are wrong.  Pammy Atlas is clearly insane, she does not know Reagan better than his own son.  On the other hand, Reagan was a proto-Palin, and the few good ideas he did have were surrounded in a sea of stupid and inane "personality" politics, religious kookery and general hucksterism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
Yeah, I could totally see Ronnie saying, "I can see Russia from my house."

Didn't he say something about south american terrorists only being a 24-hour drive away, or something?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 03:44:37 PM
It'd probably be quicker to list the non-stupid things Reagan said.

Also, this is Fear and Loathing in Greater Wingnuttia

http://townhall.com/columnists/EmmettTyrrell/2010/02/11/the_male_of_the_species_american

QuoteIn recent years when I have heard the ongoing dirge about the deficiencies of America's young men, I have had my doubts. The army that we have sent abroad to confront some of the most barbaric enemies Western civilization ever has faced is superb. Confronting savages -- usually on their own soil -- our forces have been professional to the utmost, the Wehrmacht but with democratic values! Withal, they are brave, spirited, manly.

Yes, an American conservative just compared your soldiers to the German Army circa WWII.  Who I thought were savages America confronted on their own soil.  Maybe next time America declares war on Germany, Emmett Tyrrell will compare them favourably with Jihadis?  Democratic jihadis.

It gets even stranger, but to find out more, you'll have to click the link.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
Not gonna click.  Scared.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
I'll just post tantalizing extracts then, such as:

QuoteMost universities are simply pretentious extensions of high school, presided over by a professoriate that is -- with heroic exceptions -- mediocre, tedious, ill-informed, bovine and anti-intellectual. Better it would be for young men to take a couple of years of business courses and join the adult world.

Because, of course, most business courses don't cater to people who are otherwise mediocre, tedious, ill-informed, bovine and anti-intellectual (I'm actually reading a book that makes this precise criticism, so this is kinda amusing.  Business schools and courses combine the worst aspects of technocratic rationality and lack of intellectual courage or imagination).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 04:07:32 PM
Hold on... if Universities are really "anti-intellectual", wouldn't that be a plus for a certain kind of conservative, who hold that the "intellectial elite" are ruining the nation?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 11, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
I was a big fan of RR and I agree that he's the founding father of modern conservatism here in the states.   

I normally don't care much for Ron Jr. but I thought he handled himself well in the article that was posted.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
I was a big fan of RR




:lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 11, 2010, 04:41:16 PM
Heh, heh, heh...
Who's your daddy?!
                 \
                  \
                   \
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/FlamingReaganHead2.png)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 11, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
I was a big fan of RR and I agree that he's the founding father of modern conservatism here in the states.   

I normally don't care much for Ron Jr. but I thought he handled himself well in the article that was posted.

I'm scared to ask... which part were you a fan of?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
The hair, perhaps?



LMNO
-gotta say, that was damn fine hair.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR? 

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.  The economy, improving America's world image from an American's pov and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

He certainly has had a great impact on Conservatism as it exists today. 

I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.   
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR?  

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.
:lulz:

QuoteThe economy,
:lulz: :lulz:

Quoteimproving America's world image from an American's pov
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Quoteand getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few.  
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 11, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
Oh. Well. That's all right then. We LOVES us soem Libertarians.  :lulz:

You a Randian?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 11, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
If I get hammered, I get hammered.  I can live with it.

What the heck is wrong with being a Libertarian?  No one I vote for will ever get elected.   I did get thrown out of a couple of Ron Paul groups back during the last election cycle.  :lulz:

ETA: I am a big fan of Atlas Shrugged.   I struggling through it again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:37:08 PM
I don't give a damn about your libertarianism right now.

I'm more amused about your Reagan comments.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 11, 2010, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR? 

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.  The economy, improving America's world image from an American's pov and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

He certainly has had a great impact on Conservatism as it exists today. 

I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.   

Ok, I'll bite, mostly cause I have a lot of libertarian leanings.

The Economy... Regan's system had no sustainable economic growth for the country, only a short burst during the eighties for Upper Class incomes. Look at the late eighties, right as Bush Sr. was taking office, middle class incomes were no better than they were during Carter's administration and the poverty rate had Gone UP. And let us not forget that Bush I only got four years because the economy went straight into the toilet during those years, NOT because of Bush, but because of the fallout of Regans bad policies. That's how Clinton got elected.

Technological and Economic leadership in the US didn't come back till the mid-nineties and that had far more to do with Silicon Valley and the soon-to-be Tech bubble.

As for him being the father of modern conservativinm, I agree... in that modern conservative policy is a pile of shit. Let's see... Conservatives spend less? No. Conservatives balance the budget? No. Conservatives pass less restrictive laws and appeal more restrictive laws? No. And let's not even talk about how many foreign countries we've played Agressor in since 1980, even when under Conservative presidents. So yeah, Ronnie is the father of Modern Cons. They know the right lines to deliver for the show, and they go on with Real Life which bears little or no resemblance to what they just said in front of the camera.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
If I get hammered, I get hammered.  I can live with it.

What the heck is wrong with being a Libertarian?  No one I vote for will ever get elected.   I did get thrown out of a couple of Ron Paul groups back during the last election cycle.  :lulz:

ETA: I am a big fan of Atlas Shrugged.   I struggling through it again.

They make a pill for that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

By paying a ransom.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 05:40:21 PM
After leaving them there to suffer captivity another 80 odd days, so Carter would lose the election (yeah, I went there).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:44:42 PM
Yeah, I'm still giggling about how the October Surprise was listed as one of the "good things" about Reagan.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:46:02 PM
The GOP is evil.

The Democrats are stupid.

The Libertarians are just flat-out ridiculous.  If you ever want a good laugh, go to their homepage and look up their positions on domestic issues, particularly involving the Department of Transportation and the Department of the Interior.

Fucking nutjobs.

And I don't think I need to again state my views on Ayn Rand's tripe, or the one paragraph proof that wipes out her whole laughable ideology.

The only reason to read Ayn Rand, other than as a means to discipline yourself when you've been bad, is to do so in a Starbucks while you hold your cigarettes backward, making sure everyone can see what you're reading, and wondering why no girls are striking up conversations with you.

Rand is unlimited fail, and actually makes Sarah Palin look like a political GENIUS.  'Nuff said.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
improving America's world image from an American's pov

Wait.

What?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
See?  These things just jump out at you.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
See?  These things just jump out at you.

I just got dumber, LMNO.  By at least a dozen IQ points.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: E.O.T. on February 11, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
RONALD REAGAN

          Was an invaluable impetus to American political punk rock and punk rock in general, from song content to gig flyer artwork.

HOWEVER

          His largest mistake while President was NOT having Andy Warhol design Americas political prisons.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
See?  These things just jump out at you.

I just got dumber, LMNO.  By at least a dozen IQ points.


If only there were a pill for that.  Sadly, no.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 06:04:02 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on February 11, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
RONALD REAGAN

          Was an invaluable impetus to American political punk rock and punk rock in general, from song content to gig flyer artwork.

HOWEVER

          His largest mistake while President was NOT having Andy Warhol design Americas political prisons.

Also, failing to have Tip O'Niell publicly flogged during the Iran/Contra scandal.  It made Reagan look weak.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 06:04:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
See?  These things just jump out at you.

I just got dumber, LMNO.  By at least a dozen IQ points.


If only there were a pill for that.  Sadly, no.

I'll settle for one that makes me stop caring when I read shit like that.

Oh, wait.  I have 'em right here.

PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPILLS HERE!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 06:14:53 PM
GRABBIN PILLS!



Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 11, 2010, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR? 

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.  The economy, improving America's world image from an American's pov and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

He certainly has had a great impact on Conservatism as it exists today. 

I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.   

A libertarian supporting Ronald Reagan is pretty amusing.  He not only presided over some of the biggest increases in government spending ever he also really kicked the drug war into gear.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 11, 2010, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 11, 2010, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR? 

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.  The economy, improving America's world image from an American's pov and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

He certainly has had a great impact on Conservatism as it exists today. 

I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.   

A libertarian supporting Ronald Reagan is pretty amusing.  He not only presided over some of the biggest increases in government spending ever he also really kicked the drug war into gear.


Shhhh, FOX news said Ron was AWESOME...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 11, 2010, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 11, 2010, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 11, 2010, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 11, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
What was wrong with RR? 

I thought he did an ok job with lots of things.  The economy, improving America's world image from an American's pov and getting the Iranian hostages released to name a few. 

He certainly has had a great impact on Conservatism as it exists today. 

I'm a Libertarian not a Republican.   

A libertarian supporting Ronald Reagan is pretty amusing.  He not only presided over some of the biggest increases in government spending ever he also really kicked the drug war into gear.


Shhhh, FOX news said Ron was AWESOME...

They said the same thing about W and I have yet to talk to a Libertarian who liked him.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

You're welcome
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 11, 2010, 08:35:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 11, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

You're welcome

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Ah Pajamas Media, how Eris loves you!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
`Wait, the economy, seriously?

We never recovered during Reagan, we just got used to it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 11, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
`Wait, the economy, seriously?

We never recovered during Reagan, we just got used to it.

See?  It's like a Daisy Cutter of stupidity.  The little bits of stupid just hang there, waiting for someone to say, "hold on a sec--BOOM!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2010, 09:08:34 PM
Hang on EBS, and Imma let you finish, but The Sword of Truth is the best Objectivist fiction of all time.  OF ALL TIME!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on February 11, 2010, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 11, 2010, 09:08:34 PM
Hang on EBS, and Imma let you finish, but The Sword of Truth is the best Objectivist fiction of all time.  OF ALL TIME!
I liked the first few books, and I genuinely enjoy Goodkind's writing style... but yes.

The last ten books were essentially him jerking off to Ayn Rand then jizzing on the page.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 01:13:33 AM
So RR was the first person I got to vote for President and I liked him and the job he did at the time.  I wouldn't support him now.   

I do watch Fox news from time to time.  
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysnomia on February 12, 2010, 01:23:54 AM
I do too.  But if I watch too much my head starts to get all puffy and tingly as if it's about to explode.   :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 01:59:26 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
`Wait, the economy, seriously?

We never recovered during Reagan, we just got used to it.

As compared to Jimmy Carter's economy, you don't think RR's was an improvement?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 02:52:53 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 01:59:26 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
`Wait, the economy, seriously?

We never recovered during Reagan, we just got used to it.

As compared to Jimmy Carter's economy, you don't think RR's was an improvement?

Jimmy Carter actually had the best job creation numbers since we started tracking those figures.

But don't let that stand in the way of a good myth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 03:11:28 AM
Inflation and interest rates did really really well under Carter as I recall.  A job doesn't do you much good if you can't afford to buy or borrow anything. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:24:41 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:11:28 AM
Inflation and interest rates did really really well under Carter as I recall.  A job doesn't do you much good if you can't afford to buy or borrow anything. 

Yeah, well, someone had to pay the bar tab for Vietnam.

And are you suggesting that inflation was so bad as to make a job worthless?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 03:28:38 AM
No.  I didn't mean to imply that but if you can't afford it...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:37:28 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:28:38 AM
No.  I didn't mean to imply that but if you can't afford it...

Can't afford a job?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 03:44:23 AM
Can't afford to live with that job and borrowing at 20something % was a good alternative, at the time.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:53:44 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:44:23 AM
Can't afford to live with that job and borrowing at 20something % was a good alternative, at the time.

Yeah, so you don't borrow until things get better.  After all, we'd just spend 10 years shoveling money down a hole.

Was Carter responsible for every citizen's financial decisions?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 12, 2010, 03:58:55 AM
high inflation isn't a good or a bad thing so long as everything inflates including salaries.  it's good for people in debt, bad for people with savings.  High interest rates are pretty vital in times of high inflation, and that also brings down the bite of them, borrowing at 20% annually isn't that bad if the annual inflation rate is 10%
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on February 12, 2010, 04:28:21 AM
I would like a Bowser Revolution to occur, but I'm pretty sure not even mad economists would dare think it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 12, 2010, 05:27:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:53:44 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:44:23 AM
Can't afford to live with that job and borrowing at 20something % was a good alternative, at the time.

Yeah, so you don't borrow until things get better.  After all, we'd just spend 10 years shoveling money down a hole.

Was Carter responsible for every citizen's financial decisions?

I do. 

No. 

What the heck is a Bowser Revolution?  I gave up searching with all the Nintendo crap that showed up. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 12, 2010, 05:51:20 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 05:27:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:53:44 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:44:23 AM
Can't afford to live with that job and borrowing at 20something % was a good alternative, at the time.

Yeah, so you don't borrow until things get better.  After all, we'd just spend 10 years shoveling money down a hole.

Was Carter responsible for every citizen's financial decisions?

I do. 

No. 

What the heck is a Bowser Revolution?  I gave up searching with all the Nintendo crap that showed up. 

Put all the stuff in a big pot and deal it out equally.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 12, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
Wait, are we talking about Bowser from the Mario Bros. games or Bowser from Sha-Na-Na?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Triple Zero on February 12, 2010, 12:43:34 PM
I think they're cross-Bowser compatible.

See first you get the Bowser-wars, then you get the Bowser-revolution.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 05:27:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2010, 03:53:44 AM
Quote from: EarthBound SpIRiT on February 12, 2010, 03:44:23 AM
Can't afford to live with that job and borrowing at 20something % was a good alternative, at the time.

Yeah, so you don't borrow until things get better.  After all, we'd just spend 10 years shoveling money down a hole.

Was Carter responsible for every citizen's financial decisions?

I do. 

No. 

What the heck is a Bowser Revolution?  I gave up searching with all the Nintendo crap that showed up. 

It's where you drive out the evil socialist king, only to find out that the princess is in another castle.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 12, 2010, 04:50:06 PM
I thought a Bowser Revolution was when you burn everything to the ground with your noxious, fiery breath.  :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on February 12, 2010, 08:00:41 PM
Okay, I'll explain.

When you play Mario Party, and god help me I have played Mario Party, sometimes Bowser will show up and do terrible Things to you.  Sometimes he takes everyone's money, and splits it all between everybody.

Personally, I'd love it if that happened in America.  Oh Bowser, where art thou?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
Cancelling everyone's debt would not only likely have similar results, but also fuck the banks over.  If Bowser did that, he would get my vote.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on February 12, 2010, 09:15:35 PM
A toast to Utilitarian ethics; The greatest good for the greatest number.  8)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on February 14, 2010, 05:32:19 AM
My daughter is obsessed with Mario Party.  Oh shit, am I turning her into a SOCIALIST!!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
Interestingly enough, cancelling debts is what Athens' greatest ruler did, to overcome their financial crisis.  Most of the land and wealth in Athens belong to the aristocratic Eupatridae, who often exercised these powers in order to bankrupt farmers and small businessmen, so they could buy up their land and make them work on it as serfs or slaves.  In Athens, a serf or slave was no longer a citizen, without a vote or voice.  The whole situation spun massively out of control, with a huge economic gap between the Eupatridae and the poor, and revolution was not out of the question.  To solve matters, Solon was bought into office, where he immediately cancelled all debts, released most from their slavery, redistributed farm land and then went on to write the Athenian Constitution, replacing Draco's Code (where our word draconian comes from) and creating the precursor to modern democracy. 

I should probably rant on this.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Earthbound Spirit on February 14, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Thanks for the explanations.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 14, 2010, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 14, 2010, 02:26:35 PM
Interestingly enough, cancelling debts is what Athens' greatest ruler did, to overcome their financial crisis.  Most of the land and wealth in Athens belong to the aristocratic Eupatridae, who often exercised these powers in order to bankrupt farmers and small businessmen, so they could buy up their land and make them work on it as serfs or slaves.  In Athens, a serf or slave was no longer a citizen, without a vote or voice.  The whole situation spun massively out of control, with a huge economic gap between the Eupatridae and the poor, and revolution was not out of the question.  To solve matters, Solon was bought into office, where he immediately cancelled all debts, released most from their slavery, redistributed farm land and then went on to write the Athenian Constitution, replacing Draco's Code (where our word draconian comes from) and creating the precursor to modern democracy. 

I should probably rant on this.

Yeah, you probably should.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on February 14, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
Wow, that is damn intriguing.  I endorse this potential rant.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 16, 2010, 02:22:55 AM
Here's a classic.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/charlie2.asp

I'm so glad I helped kill that bastard's board.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 16, 2010, 02:26:36 AM
Oh hey, I remember this place from doing an extra credit assignment in one of my hig school english classes...  Why was he a bastard?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 16, 2010, 02:40:06 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 16, 2010, 02:26:36 AM
Oh hey, I remember this place from doing an extra credit assignment in one of my hig school english classes...  Why was he a bastard?

Click link.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 16, 2010, 02:41:57 AM
Also:  http://www.snopes.com/rumors/falwell.asp   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 16, 2010, 05:13:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 16, 2010, 02:22:55 AM
Here's a classic.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/charlie2.asp

I'm so glad I helped kill that bastard's board.

:x ogod. :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on February 16, 2010, 06:09:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 16, 2010, 02:41:57 AM
Also:  http://www.snopes.com/rumors/falwell.asp   :lulz:
Reason #1 why I hope that there is a hell.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Back to making fun of wingnuts

http://wonkette.com/413847/scott-brown-votes-for-jobs-bill-wingnuts-go-nuts-on-twitter

QuoteIn only his second Senate vote, Republican messiah Scott Brown helped the Democrats destroy a Republican filibuster on the new Jobs Bill, hahahahah, what? And guess who's cold goin' nuts on the Twitter?

Post includes screenshots of screeching Twittertards.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 23, 2010, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Back to making fun of wingnuts

http://wonkette.com/413847/scott-brown-votes-for-jobs-bill-wingnuts-go-nuts-on-twitter

QuoteIn only his second Senate vote, Republican messiah Scott Brown helped the Democrats destroy a Republican filibuster on the new Jobs Bill, hahahahah, what? And guess who’s cold goin’ nuts on the Twitter?

Post includes screenshots of screeching Twittertards.


:lulz: 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on February 24, 2010, 04:08:56 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Back to making fun of wingnuts

http://wonkette.com/413847/scott-brown-votes-for-jobs-bill-wingnuts-go-nuts-on-twitter

QuoteIn only his second Senate vote, Republican messiah Scott Brown helped the Democrats destroy a Republican filibuster on the new Jobs Bill, hahahahah, what? And guess who's cold goin' nuts on the Twitter?

Post includes screenshots of screeching Twittertards.
:lulz: That love affair didn't last long.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2010, 09:03:53 AM
They're even attacking his daughter's facebook, which seems a pretty low blow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:20:49 PM
It's a lesson for the Republitards that wearing the red elephant or blue donkey on the lapel (metaphorically) doesn't mean that the votes will always go the way of the party platform/schtick of the moment.  
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2010, 09:03:53 AM
They're even attacking his daughter's facebook, which seems a pretty low blow.

That's pretty shitty.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on February 24, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2010, 09:03:53 AM
They're even attacking his daughter's facebook, which seems a pretty low blow.
I'm not the least bit surprised. The online Teabaggers are like Anonymous with half the IQ. Thank Eris they haven't acquired l33t haxxors skillz.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: Jason Wabash on February 24, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2010, 09:03:53 AM
They're even attacking his daughter's facebook, which seems a pretty low blow.
I'm not the least bit surprised. The online Teabaggers are like Anonymous with half the IQ. Thank Eris they haven't acquired l33t haxxors skillz.

So, now the families of politicians are fair game for harrassment.

How long before these teabaggers just say "fuck it" and put on brown shirts?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:44:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: Jason Wabash on February 24, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 24, 2010, 09:03:53 AM
They're even attacking his daughter's facebook, which seems a pretty low blow.
I'm not the least bit surprised. The online Teabaggers are like Anonymous with half the IQ. Thank Eris they haven't acquired l33t haxxors skillz.

So, now the families of politicians are fair game for harrassment.

How long before these teabaggers just say "fuck it" and put on brown shirts?

They're like that in spirit already.  They just lack direction.

That's one of the saving graces of this movement, besides the lulz.  There's no uniform direction, and factions within factions.

It's like a hilarious joke on politix only it's real and comes with spikes and pitchforks complete with mob mentality and an exhausted, long-distance running monster.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:44:43 PM

It's like a hilarious joke on politix only it's real and comes with spikes and pitchforks complete with mob mentality and an exhausted, long-distance running monster.

Well, it's going to go one of two ways.

Either they're going to find a charismatic leader and go totally apeshit, or they'll splinter into a million factions, like the Reform Party did.

I can't decide which would be funnier.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 24, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Meh, if you lie down with dogs, you get up with flea-tweets. Any politician that makes use of the ill-informed, reactionary, partisan hoard of teabaggers should be ready to get the shit end of the stick as soon as they do anything not in goose step with the Tea Party. If they think otherwise, they're obviously too naive to be politicians.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 24, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
Meh, if you lie down with dogs, you get up with flea-tweets. Any politician that makes use of the ill-informed, reactionary, partisan hoard of teabaggers should be ready to get the shit end of the stick as soon as they do anything not in goose step with the Tea Party. If they think otherwise, they're obviously too naive to be politicians.

I'm pretty sure Brown doesn't care.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 06:37:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:44:43 PM

It's like a hilarious joke on politix only it's real and comes with spikes and pitchforks complete with mob mentality and an exhausted, long-distance running monster.

Well, it's going to go one of two ways.

Either they're going to find a charismatic leader and go totally apeshit, or they'll splinter into a million factions, like the Reform Party did.

I can't decide which would be funnier.

I vote Option A ftw, Alex.

Srsly, that would be something awesome to behold, if only to hold over their heads for forever and a day.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 06:37:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:44:43 PM

It's like a hilarious joke on politix only it's real and comes with spikes and pitchforks complete with mob mentality and an exhausted, long-distance running monster.

Well, it's going to go one of two ways.

Either they're going to find a charismatic leader and go totally apeshit, or they'll splinter into a million factions, like the Reform Party did.

I can't decide which would be funnier.

I vote Option A ftw, Alex.

Srsly, that would be something awesome to behold, if only to hold over their heads for forever and a day.

Sure, and there'll be a hell of a party when we finally back them into their bunkers like rats.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 06:37:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 05:44:43 PM

It's like a hilarious joke on politix only it's real and comes with spikes and pitchforks complete with mob mentality and an exhausted, long-distance running monster.

Well, it's going to go one of two ways.

Either they're going to find a charismatic leader and go totally apeshit, or they'll splinter into a million factions, like the Reform Party did.

I can't decide which would be funnier.

I vote Option A ftw, Alex.

Srsly, that would be something awesome to behold, if only to hold over their heads for forever and a day.

Sure, and there'll be a hell of a party when we finally back them into their bunkers like rats.

Ticker-tape parade would be in order.  But I digress. 

"Now Here's Something We Hope You'll REALLY Like" /Rocky

From the GOP forums (HAR HAR HAR these people crack me up like a nut):  http://our.gop.com/forums/Topic4244010-3722-1.aspx

Quote from: Brandon Yates (a REAL Amurrican HeroTM)Having the Federal government controlling the educational system in America is anathema to the ideas is country was founded on. A free people should not receive their education from the government. Not only is it unconstitutional, but it has been a complete failure.

It's time we bring back this great Republican issue to the forefront of our platform. This is a great starting point for reducing government spending and power. But we must not compromise and settle for "reform." It must be completely abolished and educational issues returned to the people and the states.

Yeah, there we go, Brandon!  Keep people STUPID.  Because we all KNOW that corporations (aka  YOUR "people") will educate the poor, indigent and destitute.  Uh huh.  That's what they're "in it" for, right?

Dumbass.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
  http://our.gop.com/forums/Topic4244010-3722-1.aspx


oooooooooo
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
Hey, they already have some pretty cool respondants though, like good ol' John Franklin on page two:

QuoteIf they reformed the education policies and kids got smarter, the Republicans would lose their base.  

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
  http://our.gop.com/forums/Topic4244010-3722-1.aspx


oooooooooo

...you said you were bored... (you're welcome)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
Hey, they already have some pretty cool respondants though, like good ol' John Franklin on page two:

QuoteIf they reformed the education policies and kids got smarter, the Republicans would lose their base. 

:lulz:

Ok, and now I feel a newfound respect for the forumites on the gop site:

Quote from: Michael oxbigg
Quote from: John Franklin (10/14/2009)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If they reformed the education policies and kids got smarter, the Republicans would lose their base.

Not nice , John !   But funny.  especially after seeing the tea bag rallies and 9/12 rally.  I was embarrassed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:41:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wring but isn't the only federal control over education (besides constitutional stuff like Brown v.)  no child left behind?  I'd support going back to state level stuff over that monstrosity too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 07:43:47 PM
...and then you'll have prayer and Creationism in the middle states.

NOFUCKINGTHANKYOU
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:41:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wring but isn't the only federal control over education (besides constitutional stuff like Brown v.)  no child left behind?  I'd support going back to state level stuff over that monstrosity too.

1.  It's Brown vs Board of Education that they're bitching about, for the most part.

2.  Title I funding is bad?  Why?

3.  Kansas and the Appalachian states will become defacto theocracies in a generation.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:55:01 PM
Creationism is one of those constitutional issues.  Short of amending the constitution the status of that isn't changing.

The funding existed long before NCLB, and I support it, more money is nice, even if it doesn't fix the systematic problems (and isn't enough to fix the problems that can be fixed with money).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:55:01 PM
Creationism is one of those constitutional issues.  Short of amending the constitution the status of that isn't changing.

The funding existed long before NCLB, and I support it, more money is nice, even if it doesn't fix the systematic problems (and isn't enough to fix the problems that can be fixed with money).

HAR.  You're funny.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 24, 2010, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:41:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wring but isn't the only federal control over education (besides constitutional stuff like Brown v.)  no child left behind?  I'd support going back to state level stuff over that monstrosity too.



3.  Kansas and the Appalachian states will become defacto theocracies in a generation.

...they practically are already.  Ever see who runs for 1) Mayor 2) Sherriff 3) Bd of Ed in places like these?

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2010, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 07:55:01 PM
Creationism is one of those constitutional issues.  Short of amending the constitution the status of that isn't changing.

Keep on believing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 24, 2010, 09:57:20 PM
Or the republicans manage to appoint a couple more Scalias to the supreme bench.

Forgot that scenario  :oops:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on March 02, 2010, 09:45:40 PM
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23470426-women-more-troubled-by-bag-theft-than-rape-bnp-candidate-claims.do

QuoteThe Standard can reveal that Nick Eriksen, the BNP's London organiser and the second-highest candidate on its list for the Assembly, is the author of "Sir John Bull," a notorious far-Right blog which has regularly advocated hatred and abuse against women. The disclosure will be a serious blow to the BNP's hopes of London electoral success.

On 24 August 2005, Mr Eriksen wrote: "I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime ... Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.

"To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting that forcefeeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence. A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.

"The demonisation of rape is all part of the feminazi desire to obtain power and mastery over men. Men who go along with the rape myth are either morons or traitors."

On 5 November 2005, in an item entitled "Give her a slap!," Mr Eriksen approvingly quoted Noel Coward as saying: "Some women are like gongs - they need to be struck regularly." On 8 November, he claimed that "the vast majority of domestic [assaults] are initiated by the woman." Mr Eriksen also wrote on 24 November 2005 that mothers "should never go out to work" and described career women as "unnatural and vile... it is a strange kind of woman who would want to invest [her] energies into her job rather than into a man."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 02, 2010, 09:51:11 PM
so, that blog is actually for real?
not satire?..... if so, wow.

also, it sullies the name of a rather awesome hat, the John Bull Topper, that the iconic figure wore...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on March 07, 2010, 07:45:59 PM
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/delay-unemployment-benefits/

QuoteFormer House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says that Sen. Jim Bunning was "brave" for blocking an extension in unemployment benefits.

DeLay subscribes to the notion that people only try to find jobs when their benefits run out.

"There is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits, keep people from going and finding jobs," he told CNN's Candy Crowley Sunday.

"In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out," he argued.

"People are unemployed because they want to be? " asked Crowley.

"Well, it is the truth. And people in the real world know it," said DeLay.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 07, 2010, 07:45:59 PM
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/delay-unemployment-benefits/

QuoteFormer House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says that Sen. Jim Bunning was "brave" for blocking an extension in unemployment benefits.

DeLay subscribes to the notion that people only try to find jobs when their benefits run out.

"There is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits, keep people from going and finding jobs," he told CNN's Candy Crowley Sunday.

"In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out," he argued.

"People are unemployed because they want to be? " asked Crowley.

"Well, it is the truth. And people in the real world know it," said DeLay.

:lulz:

Tom DeLay.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 07, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
I believe him.  I mean, the job I got payed less than unemployment did, I wouldn't have taken it if my benefits hadn't been coming to an end.  I'd be glad to have it back though.  Most jobs in my field are sub minimum wage now thanks to incredibly shitty hours.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 08, 2010, 12:02:14 AM
further, i know several people that had regular jobs, that, when they got laid off, they took under the counter cash jobs until their benefits ran out.
if i were to get laid off, i can't think of a really good reason that i wouldn't do the same...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
I know NO one in the state of CA who 1) can get unemployment without PROVING they are looking for a job 2) likes the unemployment benefits more than a job and 3) has plans to STAY on unemployment any longer than it takes to get the damned job back/again/anew.

...and I know a lot of people on unemployment atm.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 07, 2010, 07:45:59 PM
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/delay-unemployment-benefits/

QuoteFormer House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says that Sen. Jim Bunning was "brave" for blocking an extension in unemployment benefits.

DeLay subscribes to the notion that people only try to find jobs when their benefits run out.

"There is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits, keep people from going and finding jobs," he told CNN's Candy Crowley Sunday.

"In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out," he argued.

"People are unemployed because they want to be? " asked Crowley.

"Well, it is the truth. And people in the real world know it," said DeLay.

:lulz:

Tom DeLay.

I know, right?  Mr. Bastion of American Ethical & Moral Superiority... :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2010, 04:08:49 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 07, 2010, 07:45:59 PM
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/delay-unemployment-benefits/

QuoteFormer House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says that Sen. Jim Bunning was "brave" for blocking an extension in unemployment benefits.

DeLay subscribes to the notion that people only try to find jobs when their benefits run out.

"There is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits, keep people from going and finding jobs," he told CNN's Candy Crowley Sunday.

"In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out," he argued.

"People are unemployed because they want to be? " asked Crowley.

"Well, it is the truth. And people in the real world know it," said DeLay.

:lulz:

Tom DeLay.

I know, right?  Mr. Bastion of American Ethical & Moral Superiority... :lulz:

"Dioxin isn't toxic."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on March 08, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
I know NO one in the state of CA who 1) can get unemployment without PROVING they are looking for a job 2) likes the unemployment benefits more than a job and 3) has plans to STAY on unemployment any longer than it takes to get the damned job back/again/anew.

...and I know a lot of people on unemployment atm.
This. Though I'm apparently not eligible, either, since I'm in school even though I can work at 71 hour work week (this is assuming a schedule like Starbucks had--5am to 11pm seven days a week. Which is what you're supposed to do). I'm just about to give up on it, since I've been fighting them tooth and nail for it since October, despite having all the proof necessary to show I'm looking for a job.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: Demon Sheep on March 08, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
I know NO one in the state of CA who 1) can get unemployment without PROVING they are looking for a job 2) likes the unemployment benefits more than a job and 3) has plans to STAY on unemployment any longer than it takes to get the damned job back/again/anew.

...and I know a lot of people on unemployment atm.
This. Though I'm apparently not eligible, either, since I'm in school even though I can work at 71 hour work week (this is assuming a schedule like Starbucks had--5am to 11pm seven days a week. Which is what you're supposed to do). I'm just about to give up on it, since I've been fighting them tooth and nail for it since October, despite having all the proof necessary to show I'm looking for a job.

Exactly.  And supposedly, you CAN still get benefits for being UNDERemployed in this state.

I know of no one (of the 50 or so that I know who've applied, yes, 50!) who have been able to get this.  In the last YEAR.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on March 08, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: Demon Sheep on March 08, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
I know NO one in the state of CA who 1) can get unemployment without PROVING they are looking for a job 2) likes the unemployment benefits more than a job and 3) has plans to STAY on unemployment any longer than it takes to get the damned job back/again/anew.

...and I know a lot of people on unemployment atm.
This. Though I'm apparently not eligible, either, since I'm in school even though I can work at 71 hour work week (this is assuming a schedule like Starbucks had--5am to 11pm seven days a week. Which is what you're supposed to do). I'm just about to give up on it, since I've been fighting them tooth and nail for it since October, despite having all the proof necessary to show I'm looking for a job.

Exactly.  And supposedly, you CAN still get benefits for being UNDERemployed in this state.

I know of no one (of the 50 or so that I know who've applied, yes, 50!) who have been able to get this.  In the last YEAR.
It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. And fifty people? Holy shit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: Demon Sheep on March 08, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: Demon Sheep on March 08, 2010, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 08, 2010, 03:47:10 PM
I know NO one in the state of CA who 1) can get unemployment without PROVING they are looking for a job 2) likes the unemployment benefits more than a job and 3) has plans to STAY on unemployment any longer than it takes to get the damned job back/again/anew.

...and I know a lot of people on unemployment atm.
This. Though I'm apparently not eligible, either, since I'm in school even though I can work at 71 hour work week (this is assuming a schedule like Starbucks had--5am to 11pm seven days a week. Which is what you're supposed to do). I'm just about to give up on it, since I've been fighting them tooth and nail for it since October, despite having all the proof necessary to show I'm looking for a job.

Exactly.  And supposedly, you CAN still get benefits for being UNDERemployed in this state.

I know of no one (of the 50 or so that I know who've applied, yes, 50!) who have been able to get this.  In the last YEAR.
It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. And fifty people? Holy shit.

I know.  :(  And about 2 doz or so of those are my relatives/in-laws.  Shit's gotten crazy weird. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 08, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
In Ohio there are levels of people who take Unemployment benefits. Most of them seem like sane humans who use it as a cushion until they find a job. A few though try to milk it as far as they can and will supplement it with under the table/cash only stuff.

I think guys like DeLay look at the few outliers and then make the argument that they are the rule rather than the exception.  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2010, 05:56:34 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 08, 2010, 05:29:36 PM
In Ohio there are levels of people who take Unemployment benefits. Most of them seem like sane humans who use it as a cushion until they find a job. A few though try to milk it as far as they can and will supplement it with under the table/cash only stuff.

I think guys like DeLay look at the few outliers and then make the argument that they are the rule rather than the exception.  :kingmeh:

They've been doing that since the 30s.

My favorite was Reagan's "Welfare Queen" statement, which he later retracted, but is still taken as gospel by right wing nuts to this day.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
QuoteLIMBAUGH: Are you sure that Paterson appoints or is there a special election?

CALLER: I am reasonably sure that Paterson will be appointing the replacement, assuming that he, you know, doesn't resign in the next 60 or 90 days.

LIMBAUGH: Let's assume you're right. So, David Paterson will become the massa...

CALLER: Yes.

LIMBAUGH: ...who gets to appoint whoever gets to take Massa's place. So, for the first time in his life, Paterson's gonna be a massa. Interesting, interesting.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/03/10/2010-03-10_rush_limbaugh_races_to_inject_racial_joke_about_paterson_into_massa_mess.html

Oh, why must you suck so hard, Limbaugh?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on March 11, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
Attached poll:

Rush Limbaugh is:  A conservative voice who's not afraid to tell it like it is.    42%
A hate-monger who should just shut up.    39%    
I couldn't care less. I don't pay attention to him.    19%

:x:hi5::crankey:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2010, 06:52:03 PM
More proof - if any was needed - that Thomas Friedman (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/17/opinion/17friedman.html) has no writing ability whatsoever:

QuoteUnderlying the latest U.S.-Israel spat over settlements is the deeper — real — problem: There are five key actors in the Israeli-Palestinian equation today. Two of them — the Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad and the alliance of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah — have clear strategies. These two are actually opposed, but one of them will shape Israeli-Palestinian relations in the coming years; indeed, their showdown is nearing. I hope Fayyad wins. It would be good for Israel, America and the moderate Arabs. But those three need their own strategy to make it happen.

Hello, is that Eric Blair (http://www.resort.com/~prime8/Orwell/patee.html) on the line?  Yes, you'd like to make a statement?

QuoteThe writer either has a meaning and cannot express it, or he inadvertently says something else, or he is almost indifferent as to whether his words mean anything or not. This mixture of vagueness and sheer incompetence is the most marked characteristic of modern English prose, and especially of any kind of political writing. As soon as certain topics are raised, the concrete melts into the abstract and no one seems able to think of turns of speech that are not hackneyed: prose consists less and less of words chosen for the sake of their meaning, and more and more of phrases tacked together like the sections of a prefabricated henhouse.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2010, 07:09:33 PM
Also, while I'm here, Obama is now post-American

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5846887/israel-alone.thtml

QuoteMr. Netanyahu's current government had, until last week, strived to stay close to President Barack Obama. That strategy would have been entirely sensible if Mr. Obama were simply another president in the long line since Franklin Roosevelt who vigorously asserted U.S. national interests, championed our friends (especially beleaguered ones), and kept alliances strong. But Mr. Obama is different.

He is our first post-American president. He looks beyond American exceptionalism and believes that our role on the world stage should be merely one nation among many.

I've never understood American exceptionalism.  I mean, I understand what it means, I just don't understand why a) anyone believes it, and b) anyone thinks it actually matters.

America is merely one nation among many.  In any sense that actually matters, anyway, ie material ones.  China doesn't give a fuck if America is more republican spirited than any other nation on the planet, or if it was founded by immigrants.  It gives a fuck about getting hundreds in billions of dollars worth of investment back, and not getting into a war.

I know, I know, arguing with retards will just get my blood pressure up, but damn, its about time someone called bullshit on this entire notion.

Also, Obama is a post-American because he is the first black, Muslim, Kenyan/British Maoist President of the USA, which I believe is what Bolton was inferring.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 20, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
It seems to me that American Exceptionalism is nothing more than any other nationalism....
Which i think is great.  I think nationalism to be an endearing quality of any society, and makes it more likely to have the differentiation necessary for individual cultural development.  which i think is inherently good.
i think that adopting a nationalist viewpoint is an arbitrary decision on the part of the individual, and i don't see any reason to not make it.

fire at will...
:D
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 05:51:04 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on March 20, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
It seems to me that American Exceptionalism is nothing more than any other nationalism....
Which i think is great.  I think nationalism to be an endearing quality of any society, and makes it more likely to have the differentiation necessary for individual cultural development.  which i think is inherently good.
i think that adopting a nationalist viewpoint is an arbitrary decision on the part of the individual, and i don't see any reason to not make it.

fire at will...
:D

Yay!  We're overdue for a good old fashioned huge fucking war.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 06:09:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 05:51:04 AM
Yay!  We're overdue for a good old fashioned huge fucking war.

I presume that you are referring to nationalism, and not this thread....

since i'm relatively certain that you would not be so silly as to suggest that nationalism is necessary and sufficient for a good old fashioned huge fucking war, i'll await for you to expound...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 06:27:02 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 06:09:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 05:51:04 AM
Yay!  We're overdue for a good old fashioned huge fucking war.

I presume that you are referring to nationalism, and not this thread....

since i'm relatively certain that you would not be so silly as to suggest that nationalism is necessary and sufficient for a good old fashioned huge fucking war, i'll await for you to expound...

Looking at the huge fucking wars in the past, they always followed a period of rampant nationalism.  In fact, it's the only way to get a population behind a war, especially if you're the offensive side.

On an unrelated note, a nationalist is to his nation's leaders as a drone is to the queen bee.  An unthinking, disposable tool.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 06:39:53 AM
I will grant you that, for an offensive war, a heightened sense of nationalism does seem to be necessary to some extent, but i would certainly not say that it is sufficient.
The same could be said of a standing army.  would you suggest that we abandon the notion of a standing army?

as far as a nationalist being an unthinking drone, i dismiss that notion for lack of anything to back it up.  I'm sure you can give examples of unthinking drones that are positively steeped in nationalism, to be sure. but what are you proposing the causal link is?

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 06:43:58 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 06:39:53 AM
as far as a nationalist being an unthinking drone, i dismiss that notion for lack of anything to back it up.  I'm sure you can give examples of unthinking drones that are positively steeped in nationalism, to be sure. but what are you proposing the causal link is?

You know, rather than debate the merits of the second biggest problem our species has to deal with, I think I'll just ignore you till you wake the fuck up.  I don't have time for teabaggers, nationalists, or any other brand of yahoo.

Later, dude, and please pass on my "respects" to the brotherhood at GIM.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 06:46:53 AM
huh....
:|
alright.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nast on March 21, 2010, 06:48:42 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on March 20, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
It seems to me that American Exceptionalism is nothing more than any other nationalism....
Which i think is great.  I think nationalism to be an endearing quality of any society, and makes it more likely to have the differentiation necessary for individual cultural development.  which i think is inherently good.
i think that adopting a nationalist viewpoint is an arbitrary decision on the part of the individual, and i don't see any reason to not make it.

fire at will...
:D

I think nationalism is endearing in the same way as beating one's 70 year old mother is endearing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2010, 06:55:21 AM
Quote from: Nast on March 21, 2010, 06:48:42 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on March 20, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
It seems to me that American Exceptionalism is nothing more than any other nationalism....
Which i think is great.  I think nationalism to be an endearing quality of any society, and makes it more likely to have the differentiation necessary for individual cultural development.  which i think is inherently good.
i think that adopting a nationalist viewpoint is an arbitrary decision on the part of the individual, and i don't see any reason to not make it.

fire at will...
:D

I think nationalism is endearing in the same way as beating one's 70 year old mother is endearing.

There was no choice.  She spoke disparagingly of The Fatherland.  So we kicked her ass and fuckinged her house and church.

(http://jewwishes.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dortmund2-synagogue-destruction-kristallnacht.jpg)

Ah, nationalism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 07:17:51 AM
hm... perhaps i'm simply misapplying the word.
i was under the impression that nationalism was a general term that implied a sense of social unity and pride in a nation/society.  a collective identity separate from that of other nations.
If there is a broad understanding that it includes a view that other nations are inherently lesser, or an ever present aggression towards other nations, then that is a more specific meaning than i had in mind....

I do see the tie.  i'm not blind to that.  it's often the case that humanities great strengths are its great weaknesses.  that's just the way it is.  but it seems to me that nationalism is simply a way of saying a heterogeneous collection of human cultures as opposed to the homogeneous singular culture that would be the other end of the spectrum that would result from globalisation and a shrinking world.....

i guess i'm just a naive optimist to think that we can have our cake and eat it to....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nast on March 21, 2010, 07:25:44 AM
Perhaps you mean patriotism?

Nationalism has some, uh, negative connotations.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on March 21, 2010, 07:27:50 AM
Patriotism: I'm proud my country and will defend it.
Nationalism: My country is better than your country, and I've got 18 divisions of armoured tanks willing to prove it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 07:31:40 AM
Quote from: Nast on March 21, 2010, 07:25:44 AM
Perhaps you mean patriotism?

Nationalism has some, uh, negative connotations.

It is my understanding that patriotism was restricted to pride in ones state, where as nationalism was pride in ones nation.  the later seems more important to cultural diversification.

I am aware that there are some negative correlations for the reasons pointed out by the good Dok.
I figure that the correlations do not imply that they are inseparable.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 21, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
Nationalism isn't any more inherently stupid than organised religion, but, well....let's just say that isn't exactly words of praise.  Both deserved to be poked with sticks, when they become hilariously out of touch with reality.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2010, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
Nationalism isn't any more inherently stupid than organised religion, but, well....let's just say that isn't exactly words of praise.  Both deserved to be poked with sticks, when they become hilariously out of touch with reality.

precisely.
and in that same vein, i view organized religion as one of the more fascinating and beautiful aspects of humanity, regardless of the more negative correlations.
our species, despite the disadvantages of these admittedly divisive qualities, would be less wonderful and varied without them.

I don't hate the monkeys, is what it boils down to, i guess...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on March 22, 2010, 01:17:20 AM
Patriotism, as THEY define it (today's omnipotent omnipresent media) is synonymous with nationalism.

Patriotism, as I define it, has more to do with courageous willingness to IN DA NADS when necessary.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on March 22, 2010, 07:40:43 AM
GLP's response to healthcare bill: IF YOU OWN OR MANAGE A BUSINESS FIRE ALL YOUR DEMOCRAT WORKERS
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1019393/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1019393/pg1)


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 22, 2010, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: Remington on March 22, 2010, 07:40:43 AM
GLP's response to healthcare bill: IF YOU OWN OR MANAGE A BUSINESS FIRE ALL YOUR DEMOCRAT WORKERS
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1019393/pg1 (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1019393/pg1)

Nothing like a wrongful dismissal lawsuit.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 22, 2010, 02:14:20 PM
Quote from: Kai on March 22, 2010, 01:17:20 AM
Patriotism, as THEY define it (today's omnipotent omnipresent media) is synonymous with nationalism.

Patriotism, as I define it, has more to do with courageous willingness to IN DA NADS when necessary.

This is correct monkeybehaviorridingmotorcycle.

Nationalism = MY COUNTRY IS DA BEST
Patriotism - I want my country to be awesome, but unfortunately I have to go kick that Super-Pro-America ass screaming "MY COUNTRY IS DA BEST" in the balls because he's fucking up our nation.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Halfbaked1 on March 23, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
So I come home to this...http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/texas-rep-neugebauer-i-exclaimed-the-phrase-its-a-baby-killer.php

Yeah...good luck on re-election douchebag.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 23, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on March 23, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
So I come home to this...http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/texas-rep-neugebauer-i-exclaimed-the-phrase-its-a-baby-killer.php

Yeah...good luck on re-election douchebag.
doesn't sound like he's going to need much luck for re-election.  he's an incumbent that got 72% if the vote last time?....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 23, 2010, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on March 23, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
So I come home to this...http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/texas-rep-neugebauer-i-exclaimed-the-phrase-its-a-baby-killer.php

Yeah...good luck on re-election douchebag.

I don't see that many Texans seeing his behavior as wrong.  :lol:  Would that we COULD judge him by the same litmus stick, but there's a reason the good ol' boys are playing the songs they play.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2010, 08:05:08 PM
QuoteGINGRICH: I believe one of the biggest issues in September and October will be 16,000 IRS agents and I suspect every Republican candidate will campaign on a promise to cut off all funding in January for the 16,000 IRS agents. You don't need a health Gestapo in the United States. And I think the Democrats are going to be faced with a real decision, do they really want to campaign in September, October favoring 16,000 more IRS agents to enforce the health law? And what does it tell you about a health law so complicated that you need 16,000 government policemen? It's sort of creating a brand new health police.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/07/gingrich-health-gestapo/

NO GINGRICH, WADDLE QUICKLY!  THE HEALTH GESTAPO ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU A MANDATORY 50 PRESS-UPS BEFORE LUNCH!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 16, 2010, 04:35:23 PM
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jacobs-bible-government-people-people-and-people

QuoteBut the point is, we have to say this: does the Creator have a right to say how nations are governed? Of course he does. I think it's John Wycliffe, I know it is, in 1382 that said "the Bible is the government of the people, by the people, for the people." And many of us don't even understand that in the United States today our roots, everything we are, is based upon the Manufacturer's handbook. That we took our law from English common law and that what we have and who we are works because the Creator put it into a constitution and then put it into a people that would cause righteousness and justice to come to the land.

:walken:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on April 16, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Yeah, you know, the only TRUE god in the US is, well, GOD.  So, that bit about Congress shall make no law...yeah, it's ASSUMED because we're a CHRISTIAN NATION.

Arguing this shit with my parents got old in the 90's...I gave up.  I now talk about such things as 1) weather 2) fashion 3) chocolate.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 16, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: Jenne on April 16, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Yeah, you know, the only TRUE god in the US is, well, GOD.  So, that bit about Congress shall make no law...yeah, it's ASSUMED because we're a CHRISTIAN NATION.

Arguing this shit with my parents got old in the 90's...I gave up.  I now talk about such things as 1) weather 2) fashion 3) chocolate.


I love the springtime, but it's starting to get too warm to wear chocolate.  :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on April 16, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on April 16, 2010, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on April 16, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: Jenne on April 16, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Yeah, you know, the only TRUE god in the US is, well, GOD.  So, that bit about Congress shall make no law...yeah, it's ASSUMED because we're a CHRISTIAN NATION.

Arguing this shit with my parents got old in the 90's...I gave up.  I now talk about such things as 1) weather 2) fashion 3) chocolate.


I love the springtime, but it's starting to get too warm to wear chocolate.  :sad:

NEVAR TOO WARM FOR CHOCOLATE!  Heretic! :argh!:

ETA:  but yes, that's sort of how lame my conversations have become with my mother.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 29, 2010, 10:15:17 PM
http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=72591

QuoteWow, what a great thread idea [if I were President]. Since I get to change anything I want, here are a few I'd start with.

1. Fire Congress
2. Apologize to Israel
3. Stop abortions
4. Bring God back into our schools and every other place they took him out of
5. Make our government about 1/4 the size it is now...its way too big now.
6. Create a law that says, if you pass it Congress, you get to reap the rewards right along with the rest of us, so think before you sign the thing into law.
7. Take better care of our military guys, show them the love and respect they deserve.
8. Bring back the Constitution and all it stands for
9. Make it NOT PC *politically correct* to say even one bad word about God...not sure I worded this one right but you guys get my meaning!
10. Last buy not least..if I was the president I'd be Obama I guess, so I'd fire myself and repent!

:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2010, 10:24:59 PM
The president gets to fire congress?

:lulz:

I agree with whomever it was that said the only reason we have a president is so that the rubes would think we have a king.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on April 29, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
4. Bring God back into our schools and every other place they took him out of


Any deity that could be expelled from school (and other places) by humans isn't much cop and probably not worth worshiping anyway.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on April 29, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
From the RR thread:

Quote
QuoteIs everyone aware that being President does not mean being the dictator?
We're aware, yes. But it's not dictatorial to hold firm to God, the Bible, and the Constitution.
Quote
With Obama's shenanigans (and that's putting it lightly), the conservatives are just as responsible as the dems. They expand government (and specifically, Executive) power when their guy is in office, and then act surprised when someone who is not "their guy" has the same powers.
If we had enough Conservatives in office we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. Conservatives are anti-big government and anti-government overspending.
/mysides


Some other ones:

QuoteOpen homosexuality and transgender would be outlawed (I would like to see it a misdemeanor offense unless someone is repeatedly caught, then the penalties would be more and more harsh, with jailtime appropriate for repeat offenders, kind of like DUI). Homosexuals would not be allowed to adopt kids, undergo in vitro fertilazation, teach school, and any employers could choose not to hire people or they could fire them if they are found out to be gay no matter what the job is.

QuoteDo away with hate-crimes bills

QuoteDelete these:
NEA
DOEd [Do away with education departments. Not surprising.]
DOEn

Cut these:
EEOC
EPA
DOT

Restructure these:
IRS
Intel
Entitlements

Quote1) Abortion is illegal in all circumstances, unless the fetus has already died. Anyone caught performing one goes to jail for murder.
2) Marriage is between a man and a woman. No divorce is allowed unless abuse is involved.
3) Homosexuality isn't an offense that can send someone to jail, unless someone is underage, and 21 is the age of majority. I decided this because it's more of a mental illness, and if you're caught, counseling is more appropriate. If you've gone at least 10 years without another offense, you're allowed any job you're qualified to do. If you fall again, back to counseling, but you'll never be able to work around children.
4) Animal abuse is a felony. It's always bothered me that someone can torture a dog and only get a fine. Human life is above animal life, but that doesn't give someone the right to abuse animals.
5) You can follow whatever religion you want, that's your personal decision, but Christianity is the religion of the country. God will be in the schools, in the work places, and in every public building. If you don't like it, you can move away!



That thread is a serious goldmine of lulz. I am re-registering (my previous account was banned for posting Extreme Sports Jesus).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 30, 2010, 12:10:08 AM
I haven't actually been able to see the whole thread since my work IP is permanently banned. :crankey:

Not sure I want to see it when I get home. The amount of wingnuttery might break my fragile little mind.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on April 30, 2010, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: Remington on April 29, 2010, 11:04:01 PM

Quote4) Animal abuse is a felony. It's always bothered me that someone can torture a dog and only get a fine.


This is the only thing I'd ever agree with, and that's because I'm a dirty hippy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 30, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
QuoteCut these:
EEOC
EPA
DOT


What exactly do they have against roads?   :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on April 30, 2010, 12:46:43 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 30, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
QuoteCut these:
EEOC
EPA
DOT


What exactly do they have against roads?   :?

And the environment, the EPA is in there too.

Or they just don't like acronyms. ACRONYMS = BIG GUBMENT! = TAYKIN MAH MUHNEE
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 30, 2010, 12:50:09 AM
Nono, I get that the hate the environment, environmentalism is probably some hippie conspiracy to take money away from people according to this person.  Much like the bit about hate crime laws being bad, it's crazy, but if you beat yourself until you have brain damage it probably makes sense.  I don't get why they hate the interstate, its not part of the far right in general as far as I know.

Maybe they just oppose everything Eisenhower did on general principle.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 30, 2010, 01:15:03 AM
I'M A REPUBLICAN

FUCK ROADS AND THE ENVIRONMENT!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on April 30, 2010, 02:12:09 AM
I think we should create a meme something like

REPUBLICANS HATE TRUCKERS

Because otherwise why would they hate roads so much?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 02:17:13 AM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 30, 2010, 12:46:43 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 30, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
QuoteCut these:
EEOC
EPA
DOT


What exactly do they have against roads?   :?

And the environment, the EPA is in there too.

Or they just don't like acronyms. ACRONYMS = BIG GUBMENT! = TAYKIN MAH MUHNEE

We should make up some new ones.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 30, 2010, 02:19:42 AM
What do you mean Dok?

As in:

EPA - Environmental Pro-raping Agency?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on April 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
TBFPS: Teabaggers for poor spelling!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 02:41:14 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 30, 2010, 02:19:42 AM
What do you mean Dok?

As in:

EPA - Environmental Pro-raping Agency?

FWAA - Forced White Abortion Agency

40AM - 40 Acres and a mule.  With interest.

MNRA - Mexican National Resettlement Agency.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 30, 2010, 02:52:26 AM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 30, 2010, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 30, 2010, 02:41:14 AM
MNRA - Mexican National Resettlement Agency.


GOLD.


Also, roads don't matter, cuz I gots an SUV!




Also also,

FVRED - Family Values Re-Education Department
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 01, 2010, 01:39:25 AM
Hey Dok?

Guess. What.
Thomas Jefferson was first, but now even Mr. Rogers doesn't have the right values anymore.

http://www.prosebeforehos.com/government_employee/04/29/fox-news-calls-mr-rogers-evil/ (http://www.prosebeforehos.com/government_employee/04/29/fox-news-calls-mr-rogers-evil/)

QuoteLittle did I know, Mr. Rogers was an evil man. By telling children they're special just for being who they are, he helped create this generation of worthless, lazy socialists who think they're entitled to health care... at least according to Fox News.

They actually use the word "evil" to describe Mr. Rogers and criticize him for his "optimistic message where everyone was special even if they didn't deserve it", which is "ruining kids with a sense of entitlement." Then one of them starts babbling about how children should go back to churning butter and making their own sweaters. Fox's Brian Kilmeade said "that man unintentionally did a whole generation or two a disservice." Only on Fox could a man who spent his life dedicated to public service and education be blamed for ruining generations of Americans.


Your country is eating itself, Roger. They're literally throwing past heroes -great men who helped shaped the course of the country and the national consciousness- into the fires of partisan news to try and score a few cheap political points. It's like an Ouroboros of suck.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on May 01, 2010, 02:01:49 AM
I just...I.... 

Goddamn!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on May 01, 2010, 04:18:50 AM
I believe it, but wish I couldn't.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
What in hell. What's next, burning kindergarten teachers at the stake?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 01, 2010, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 01, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
What in hell. What's next, burning kindergarten teachers at the stake?

well,
only the pinko commie ones that corrupt our children with messages like, 'you are loved'...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on May 01, 2010, 11:08:38 PM
Clearly the country would be better off if we taught kids early on that their lives weren't for enjoyment.  Self-actualization?  That's liberal talk.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2010, 12:03:49 AM
THE WORLD IS SATAN'S. YOUR BODY IS EVIL. FUN IS SIN.

Let's get back to fundamentals, here.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 02, 2010, 12:11:40 AM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
TBFPS: Teabaggers for poor spelling!

I think you mean Teabaggers for poor speling.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 03, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Limbaugh Says 'Environmentalist Wackos' Marked Earth Day by Blowing Up Oil Rig
http://ecopolitology.org/2010/05/01/limbaugh-enviro-wackos-mark-earth-day-by-blowing-up-oil-rig/ (http://ecopolitology.org/2010/05/01/limbaugh-enviro-wackos-mark-earth-day-by-blowing-up-oil-rig/)

QuoteSaying he was 'just noting the timing' of it, conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh suggested that 'environmentalist wackos' may have blown up the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico — an incident which can already be characterized as one of the largest ecological disasters in U.S. history.

Limbaugh suggested that because the Senate may soon be considering climate and energy legislation, legislation that Limbaugh claims was going to be unveiled on Earth Day, environmentalists could be trying to call attention to their cause by observing the 40th anniversary of Earth Day by blowing up the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

Title says it all, folks.
Beck vs Coulter vs Limbaugh: The Great Quest for the Lowest Possible Denominator
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on May 04, 2010, 04:45:55 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 02, 2010, 12:11:40 AM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on April 30, 2010, 02:24:19 AM
TBFPS: Teabaggers for poor spelling!

I think you mean Teabaggers for poor speling.


Yeah, I did. :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on May 04, 2010, 08:16:48 AM
Quote from: Remington on May 03, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Title says it all, folks.
Beck vs Coulter vs Limbaugh: The Great Quest for the Lowest Possible Denominator

Nnnngg..

:spag:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 04, 2010, 03:06:15 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 01, 2010, 01:39:25 AM

Your country is eating itself, Roger.

Ain't it cool?   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on May 05, 2010, 05:23:28 AM
BUT BUT BUT...saw on The Daily Show tonight that McCain doesn't want to give the NYC Pakistani carbomber rights...

AND GLENN BECK DOES... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/04/faisal-shahzad-arrest-bec_n_562467.html)

WTF?

The world has gone nuts.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 05, 2010, 05:44:29 AM
Quote from: Jenne on May 05, 2010, 05:23:28 AM
BUT BUT BUT...saw on The Daily Show tonight that McCain doesn't want to give the NYC Pakistani carbomber rights...

AND GLENN BECK DOES... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/04/faisal-shahzad-arrest-bec_n_562467.html)

WTF?

The world has gone nuts.
...

wat
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on May 06, 2010, 02:26:18 AM
Holy media stunt, batman.

From the article,

"The problem with the Obama defense and foreign policy philosophy is that it seems to abandon the proven strategy of peace through strength"

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 06, 2010, 04:38:38 AM
 :lulz: Is that anything like fucking for virginity?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 06, 2010, 05:04:47 AM
You can't have peace through strength when half your military is tied up defending land on the other side of the planet.  That kindof fucks up our ability to retaliate if someone else attacks us.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on May 06, 2010, 04:38:38 AM
:lulz: Is that anything like fucking for virginity?

No.  It isn't.

However, using that strength in meaningless wars isn't peace through strength, either.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on May 08, 2010, 12:45:41 AM
What we're attempting now is 'peace through war' which is a lot like virginity for fucking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on May 09, 2010, 03:49:20 AM
14% of Americans are birthers (source (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/05/obama_birthplace.html?wprss=behind-the-numbers)).

One of them is Lt. Col. Terry Lankin, who refused to report for duty and be deployed to Afghanistan because Obama is not legally the Commander in Chief and lacks the authority to send him anywhere.  He's being court-martialed for it.

Here (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=150521) is Alan Keyes explaining why this guy is a hero.

QuoteThe situation results from the dereliction of responsible civilian constitutional officers in both the legislative and judicial branches of government. They have refused to meet their sworn duty to assure that the Constitution is at all times being upheld. By his actions, Lt. Col. Lakin declares his willingness to rely upon the system of military justice to proceed in a manner that will eventually confront the Supreme Court of the United States with its inescapable duty to provide a constitutionally authoritative answer to the question of Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve as president.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 09, 2010, 06:48:36 AM
Constitutionally Authoritative Answer:


"You're a retard. Go to jail."
                                \
(http://wellsy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/006_ginsburg.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on May 09, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
Put this asshole in Gitmo. (see below)

Lt Col: Let me out of here! I'm a US citizen!
Law: So is the Times Square bomber and I don't like his chances right now.
Lt Col: But I'm being detained illegally.
Law: Yeah. We know.
Lt Col: This is insane! Someone should shut this place down!
Law: What....someone like uh....President Obama?
Lt Col:  :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 14, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
Pure Glenn Beck gold:
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/13/lewis-black-glenn-beck-has-nazi-tourettes/ (http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/13/lewis-black-glenn-beck-has-nazi-tourettes/)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
LOVED that.  And it's TROOOOOOOO
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2010, 11:29:31 PM
OMG. Lewis Black is one of my favorite comedians, and that clip is a good example of why.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on May 15, 2010, 04:27:53 AM
It's going to be a good decade to be a comedy writer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on May 15, 2010, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 14, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
Pure Glenn Beck gold:
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/13/lewis-black-glenn-beck-has-nazi-tourettes/ (http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/13/lewis-black-glenn-beck-has-nazi-tourettes/)

That was brilliant.   :lulz:  Almost as good as Stewart's Beck imitation.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on May 29, 2010, 07:48:25 AM
From Conservapedia's Conservative Bible Translation Project:
http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_15-21_(Translated)&diff=prev&oldid=757526 (http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_15-21_(Translated)&diff=prev&oldid=757526)


Hitler opposed animal cruelty too:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama/archive8#Animal_rights (http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama/archive8#Animal_rights)

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on June 05, 2010, 03:26:52 AM
If Hitler liked Ice Cream, we must never eat ice cream again.

THAT'S.  LOGIC.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 06, 2010, 01:05:25 AM
So Carolina Totally Looses its Mind (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/06/so_carolina_totally_loses_its_mind.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

QuoteWe noted last night that a top supporter of South Carolina Gov. candidate Andre Bauer called frontrunner Nikki Haley (who is the child of Sikh immigrants from the Punjab) a "raghead". But now the audio has surfaced. And the whole thing turns out to have been much more over the top and nutty than first reported.

Not only did state Sen. Jake Knotts refer to Haley as a "f#!king raghead" he also went on a tear about her being a crypto-Sikh pretending to be Christian and part of some wild conspiracy theory about Haley being a stalking horse for turban-wearing foreigners trying to undermine South Carolina's God-fearing culture.

According to the Free Times, Knotts claimed Haley's father is sending letters to India saying that his daughter is the first Sikh in the United States running for high office and that "we're at war over there."

From the Free Times ...
Quote
    Knotts said that South Carolina is a religious community.

    "We need a good Christian to be our governor," he said. "She's hiding her religion. She ought to be proud of it. I'm proud of my god."

    Knotts says he believes Haley's father has been sending letters to India saying that Haley is the first Sikh running for high office in America. He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban.

    "We're at war over there," Knotts said.

    Asked to clarify, he said he did not mean the United States was at war with India, but was at war with "foreign countries."
:lulz:  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on June 06, 2010, 01:25:11 AM
 :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on June 06, 2010, 09:59:38 PM
The War On Turban People.  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 10, 2010, 06:25:04 PM
Stewart Rhodes (http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers), the founder of the crazy wingnut group Oath Keepers (whose members are sometimes decidedly less amusing) is a constitutional lawyer educated at Yale, who also writes for a magazine called SWAT.
Quote... Then, in early 2008, SWAT received a letter from a retired colonel declaring that "the Constitution and our Bill of Rights are gravely endangered" and that service members, veterans, and police "is where they will be saved, if they are to be saved at all!"

Rhodes responded with a breathless column starring a despotic president, "Hitlery" Clinton, in her "Chairman Mao signature pantsuit." Would readers, he asked, obey orders from this "dominatrix-in-chief" to hold militia members as enemy combatants, disarm citizens, and shoot all resisters? If "a police state comes to America, it will ultimately be by your hands," he warned. You had better "resolve to not let it happen on your watch." ...
:lulz:  


edited for spelling
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on June 10, 2010, 06:31:43 PM
I still want to beat the shit out of every single one of the oathkeepers.  Where the hell were there people from 2001-2007?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 20, 2010, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 06, 2010, 01:05:25 AM
So Carolina Totally Looses its Mind (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/06/so_carolina_totally_loses_its_mind.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

QuoteWe noted last night that a top supporter of South Carolina Gov. candidate Andre Bauer called frontrunner Nikki Haley (who is the child of Sikh immigrants from the Punjab) a "raghead". But now the audio has surfaced. And the whole thing turns out to have been much more over the top and nutty than first reported.

Not only did state Sen. Jake Knotts refer to Haley as a "f#!king raghead" he also went on a tear about her being a crypto-Sikh pretending to be Christian and part of some wild conspiracy theory about Haley being a stalking horse for turban-wearing foreigners trying to undermine South Carolina's God-fearing culture.

According to the Free Times, Knotts claimed Haley's father is sending letters to India saying that his daughter is the first Sikh in the United States running for high office and that "we're at war over there."

From the Free Times ...
Quote
   Knotts said that South Carolina is a religious community.

   "We need a good Christian to be our governor," he said. "She's hiding her religion. She ought to be proud of it. I'm proud of my god."

   Knotts says he believes Haley's father has been sending letters to India saying that Haley is the first Sikh running for high office in America. He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban.

   "We're at war over there," Knotts said.

   Asked to clarify, he said he did not mean the United States was at war with India, but was at war with "foreign countries."
:lulz:  :horrormirth:

Ah...the exposed underbelly that is Southern American racism.  LOVE. IT.  Knotts is a classic case, and he's not a special case, either.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 20, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 10, 2010, 06:25:04 PM
Stewart Rhodes (http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers), the founder of the crazy wingnut group Oath Keepers (whose members are sometimes decidedly less amusing) is a constitutional lawyer educated at Yale, who also writes for a magazine called SWAT.
Quote... Then, in early 2008, SWAT received a letter from a retired colonel declaring that "the Constitution and our Bill of Rights are gravely endangered" and that service members, veterans, and police "is where they will be saved, if they are to be saved at all!"

Rhodes responded with a breathless column starring a despotic president, "Hitlery" Clinton, in her "Chairman Mao signature pantsuit." Would readers, he asked, obey orders from this "dominatrix-in-chief" to hold militia members as enemy combatants, disarm citizens, and shoot all resisters? If "a police state comes to America, it will ultimately be by your hands," he warned. You had better "resolve to not let it happen on your watch." ...
:lulz: 


edited for spelling

THIS is actually the kind of shit that Rush Limbaugh perpetuates.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on June 21, 2010, 02:16:16 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 06, 2010, 01:05:25 AM
So Carolina Totally Looses its Mind (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/06/so_carolina_totally_loses_its_mind.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

QuoteWe noted last night that a top supporter of South Carolina Gov. candidate Andre Bauer called frontrunner Nikki Haley (who is the child of Sikh immigrants from the Punjab) a "raghead". But now the audio has surfaced. And the whole thing turns out to have been much more over the top and nutty than first reported.

Not only did state Sen. Jake Knotts refer to Haley as a "f#!king raghead" he also went on a tear about her being a crypto-Sikh pretending to be Christian and part of some wild conspiracy theory about Haley being a stalking horse for turban-wearing foreigners trying to undermine South Carolina's God-fearing culture.

According to the Free Times, Knotts claimed Haley's father is sending letters to India saying that his daughter is the first Sikh in the United States running for high office and that "we're at war over there."

From the Free Times ...
Quote
    Knotts said that South Carolina is a religious community.

    "We need a good Christian to be our governor," he said. "She's hiding her religion. She ought to be proud of it. I'm proud of my god."

    Knotts says he believes Haley's father has been sending letters to India saying that Haley is the first Sikh running for high office in America. He says her father walks around Lexington wearing a turban.

    "We're at war over there," Knotts said.

    Asked to clarify, he said he did not mean the United States was at war with India, but was at war with "foreign countries."
:lulz:  :horrormirth:

Yep. This is the state I live in.

Beautiful state. But then the people showed up. :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 24, 2010, 11:20:41 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, irony!

QuoteAFA President Tim Wildmon says, "It's shameful that adults would abuse a brain-washed child in this way. He's obviously just parroting the nonsense he's been told by manipulative adults. For gay activists to trot out this child and make him the poster child for promoting unnatural sexual expression is a form of child abuse."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/afa-targets-10-year-old-parade-marshall-fox-quotes-bryan-fischer
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
Ultra-right wing candidate from the South puts words into Abraham Lincoln's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn14RwuJJRg

QuoteBarber says, "Hey Abe, if someone is forced to work for months to pay taxes so that a total stranger can get a free meal, medical procedure or a bailout, what's that called? What's it called when one man is forced to work for another?" The actor pretending to be Lincoln replies, "Slavery."

At that point, viewers are bombarded with images of slaves and concentration camps, including those from Nazi Germany.

"We shed a lot of blood to stop that in the past, didn't we?" Barber adds. "Now look at us. We are all becoming slaves to our government."
:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 01:05:22 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
Ultra-right wing candidate from the South puts words into Abraham Lincoln's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn14RwuJJRg

QuoteBarber says, "Hey Abe, if someone is forced to work for months to pay taxes so that a total stranger can get a free meal, medical procedure or a bailout, what's that called? What's it called when one man is forced to work for another?" The actor pretending to be Lincoln replies, "Slavery."

:facepalm:

:lulz:

Abe was the closest thing to a socialist of his day.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on June 29, 2010, 01:09:34 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
Ultra-right wing candidate from the South puts words into Abraham Lincoln's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn14RwuJJRg

QuoteBarber says, "Hey Abe, if someone is forced to work for months to pay taxes so that a total stranger can get a free meal, medical procedure or a bailout, what's that called? What's it called when one man is forced to work for another?" The actor pretending to be Lincoln replies, "Slavery."

At that point, viewers are bombarded with images of slaves and concentration camps, including those from Nazi Germany.

"We shed a lot of blood to stop that in the past, didn't we?" Barber adds. "Now look at us. We are all becoming slaves to our government."
:facepalm:

Heh. Heh      heh.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:22:59 AM
I'd like to know what he means by "we". He's running in Alabama. You know, one of the states that shed blood to keep slavery around.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
Barber says, "Hey Abe, if someone is forced to work for months to pay taxes so that a total stranger can get a free meal, medical procedure or a bailout, what's that called? What's it called when one man is forced to work for another?" The actor pretending to be Lincoln replies, "CAPITALISM."



[/Captain Obvious]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/gohmert-theres-a-diabolical-30-year-plot-to-have-terrorist-babies-born-in-us-video.php

QuoteRep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) went to the House floor Thursday night, to warn of a diabolical terrorist plot -- with a 20-30 year timeline.

The plot involves arranging for a child to be born in the United States -- then training them in an isolated environment abroad, ready to dispatch them back here to commit violence after a quick two or three decades.

"I talked to a retired FBI agent who said that one of the things they were looking at were terrorist cells overseas who had figured out how to game our system. And it appeared they would have young women, who became pregnant, would get them into the United States to have a baby," said Gohmert. "They wouldn't even have to pay anything for the baby. And then they would turn back where they could be raised and coddled as future terrorists. And then one day, twenty, thirty years down the road, they can be sent in to help destroy our way of life. 'Cause they figured out how stupid we are being in this country to allow our enemies to game our system, hurt our economy, get set up in a position to destroy our way of life."

SOMEONE MUST STOP THESE TERRORIST BABBIES!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 29, 2010, 06:24:29 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 01:04:34 AM
Ultra-right wing candidate from the South puts words into Abraham Lincoln's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn14RwuJJRg

QuoteBarber says, "Hey Abe, if someone is forced to work for months to pay taxes so that a total stranger can get a free meal, medical procedure or a bailout, what's that called? What's it called when one man is forced to work for another?" The actor pretending to be Lincoln replies, "Slavery."

At that point, viewers are bombarded with images of slaves and concentration camps, including those from Nazi Germany.

"We shed a lot of blood to stop that in the past, didn't we?" Barber adds. "Now look at us. We are all becoming slaves to our government."
:facepalm:

Ironically, that's what guys like Lysander Spooner (who was against Slavery AND against the Civil War) would have replied, not Lincoln.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 29, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 29, 2010, 06:16:26 PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/gohmert-theres-a-diabolical-30-year-plot-to-have-terrorist-babies-born-in-us-video.php

QuoteRep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) went to the House floor Thursday night, to warn of a diabolical terrorist plot -- with a 20-30 year timeline.

The plot involves arranging for a child to be born in the United States -- then training them in an isolated environment abroad, ready to dispatch them back here to commit violence after a quick two or three decades.

"I talked to a retired FBI agent who said that one of the things they were looking at were terrorist cells overseas who had figured out how to game our system. And it appeared they would have young women, who became pregnant, would get them into the United States to have a baby," said Gohmert. "They wouldn't even have to pay anything for the baby. And then they would turn back where they could be raised and coddled as future terrorists. And then one day, twenty, thirty years down the road, they can be sent in to help destroy our way of life. 'Cause they figured out how stupid we are being in this country to allow our enemies to game our system, hurt our economy, get set up in a position to destroy our way of life."

SOMEONE MUST STOP THESE TERRORIST BABBIES!!!

Raised and coddled as terrorists?

Oh, those mollycoddled terrorists!

:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on June 29, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
I'm thinking it was a retired, liquored-up, FBI agent. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on July 04, 2010, 08:29:51 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/gop-chairman-afghan-war-563116.html (http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/gop-chairman-afghan-war-563116.html)

HAHAHAHAHA

*thud*
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2010, 08:35:30 AM
What Steele said is inexcusably stupid.  But it's masking the Dems even more vapid and disgusting response:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/02/nation/la-na-rnc-steele-20100703

QuoteIt's simply unconscionable that Michael Steele would undermine the morale of our troops when what they need is our support and encouragement.

SOLDIERS ARE DELICATE LITTLE FLOWERS AND WHEN YOU BADMOUTH THE WAR YOU OBJECTIVELY SUPPORT BIN LADEN, THE TALIBAN, SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE KHMER ROGUE, THE FRENCH MONARCHISTS, KING XERXES AND THE EGYPTIAN PHAROH WHO ENSLAVED THE JEWS.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2010, 10:35:32 AM
Also, the last time I checked, Obama is the CinC, and there are less than 100 Al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan and, oh yeah, the attack took place nearly 9 years ago.  So while Obama may not have chosen to go in, he has certainly chosen to not yet pull out.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 04, 2010, 05:27:07 PM
But if we don't fight them there, we'll fight them here!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2010, 05:47:34 PM
100 Al-Qaeda fighters in Central Park?  Sounds like a plan to me.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 05, 2010, 06:29:03 PM
If we fight them over here then the public might actually care when civilians get blown up/hauled off to be tortured to death, though.

Hardly the best situation for the people running the show.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 01:10:34 AM
Lincoln was a Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 06, 2010, 01:12:42 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 01:10:34 AM
Lincoln was a Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

I'm certain you have a point.  I'm just not sure what it is.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on July 06, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 01:10:34 AM
Lincoln was a Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

No!  You fo realz? 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 06, 2010, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: RWHN on July 06, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 01:10:34 AM
Lincoln was a Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

No!  You fo realz? 

Don't you remember the famous Ab Lincoln speech where he apologized to the slave owners for what he said was a "government shakedown", he then was caught in a hotel with blow and a guy from rentaboy.com
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 06, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 04, 2010, 08:35:30 AM
What Steele said is inexcusably stupid.  But it's masking the Dems even more vapid and disgusting response:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/02/nation/la-na-rnc-steele-20100703

QuoteIt's simply unconscionable that Michael Steele would undermine the morale of our troops when what they need is our support and encouragement.

SOLDIERS ARE DELICATE LITTLE FLOWERS AND WHEN YOU BADMOUTH THE WAR YOU OBJECTIVELY SUPPORT BIN LADEN, THE TALIBAN, SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE KHMER ROGUE, THE FRENCH MONARCHISTS, KING XERXES AND THE EGYPTIAN PHAROH WHO ENSLAVED THE JEWS.

:lulz:
BUT REPUBLICANS ARE SUPPOSE TO SAY THAT ABOUT DEMS
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 06, 2010, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: RWHN on July 06, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 01:10:34 AM
Lincoln was a Republican...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

No!  You fo realz? 

Don't you remember the famous Ab Lincoln speech where he apologized to the slave owners for what he said was a "government shakedown", he then was caught in a hotel with blow and a guy from rentaboy.com

No, I hadn't heard about that one. Lincoln had an internet connection? That explains a LOT.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on July 06, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
Why do you think he had the high hat?  That's where he kept his wireless router. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
Hmmm... I think you may be on to something... However, this seems to contradict Al Gore's claim that he took initiative in creating the internet, so I'm a bit skeptical. Perhaps a time machine was involved?.. Since, as we all know, the internet is nothing more than a series of tubes, making it technologically possible (though likely difficult) even in that day, maybe there is something to that? I smell a conspiracy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on July 06, 2010, 08:45:14 PM
You should always be skeptical when it comes to Al Gore.  Dude lost to a baseball-owner, thinks he invented the internet, cries about global warming while racing around in jets, and, the worst crime against humanity, he and Tipper went against Twisted Sister.  D/N/T the Twisted Sister!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2010, 09:56:09 PM
I still don't understand the Lincoln reference.

Really the only time I see Lincoln bought up randomly in political conversations is by wingnuts desperate to prove their party is not full of frothing racist lunatics by referencing a 150 year old presidency.  This also often involves mentioning Robert Byrd's membership in the KKK and the original positions of the Dixiecrats re: integration, and ignoring silly little things like where those Dixiecrats went after they left the Democrats and electoral ideas such as the Southern Strategy.

Not to say the Democrats don't also have their own fair share of racists, but they usually conserve their sociopathic desires to approving the actions of favoured client states (normally Israel, though historically Kosovo and Chechnya have also been favoured) instead of carrying out the racial agitation at home.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 06, 2010, 10:11:37 PM
The truth is, Cain, I was hoping to avoid answering the question, but, since it keeps coming up, best to stop putting it off. For a slight second there, my old knee-jerk political responses kicked in, mostly due to getting in arguments with both sides of the political spectrum. For a second, I forgot where I was, but recognized enough to see that I wouldn't have to spell everything out. Both republicans and democrats see me as a nut, though I'm working on the ways in which I interact with them, in order to have a better chance at actually making a point, rather than contributing to a pointless flame war. So yes, you called it right, I was attempting to defend the republicans, even though a lot of them are frothing, fanatical racists these days. It's a shame how some things change.

I have Libertarian tendencies, however, some of their ideas are just too idealistic IMO. And before you ask, I can't stand Ayn Rand. I thought she was awesome when I was in high school, but I realized after a few short years that there were huge, gaping holes in the way she presented her "philosophy", and likely the philosophy itself, for instance, there was a profound lack of empathy, she seemed to regard humans as robots, mere things, worth little more than what they were capable of accomplishing. Perhaps I was reading too much into it, but try as I might, I can't ignore my own empathy or sentimentality without becoming a deeply unhappy person.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 06, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
The really sad thing is that the next 10 years at least are going to be full of suck and fail for America. The economy is sinking, and progressive ideas for fixing it are off the table because of the American public's sudden obsession with "fiscal responsibility" and "deficit reduction." This means, of course, that the economy will continue to sink, if not crash again, and it will all be Obama's fault because he happens to be the President while the country gets carried away with this Tea Party crap and hangs itself. Nevermind that nobody will actually let Obama do what he wants to do (and what needs to be done).

And, since it's all Obama's fault, that means it's the Democrats' fault too. And along with the Democrats, we're going to blame compassion, sympathy, mercy anything else they stand for because if one Democrat fails (although he hasn't), all Democrats and everything they believe in must obviously be failures, too. Fuck.

So America is going to start in on this great big crusade to rid itself of social leeches like "the poor" (read: lazy), "the sick" (that is, the immoral), and "the intellectuals" (or, rather, the snooty liberal elites). Basically, so much for the last 75 years.

If you're wondering where this century is heading in terms of our standard of living and social freedoms, imagine the 20th Century in reverse.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 07, 2010, 12:51:19 AM
All the more reason to infiltrate them and steer them off that particular course. Tea party people I've spoken with over the internet tend to like me, and I get drunk as hell and tell them why I think they're wrong. I'm not quite certain it's quite so polarized, but you guys likely know better than I do.

I don't think it's Obama's fault. To tell you the truth, I found it odd how he said one thing and when he got into office, he did another. Was it some instantaneous enlightenment? I doubt it. He struck me as an actual idealist, as opposed to some kind of tool. I was impressed that he didn't take any of Soros's money and manage to win the primaries (Soros backed Hillary, while McCain accepted money from Soros (from what I've heard). Not only that, he won the election. It makes me think that the whitehouse is a place where they keep the president and his family hostage, and not necessarily that the flip-flopping that occurs on issues from the debates to the oval office is a result of political deception (though, that's the optimist in me speaking).

The last election was obviously a sham. I knew Obama would win, before the primaries were even over with. It was kind of funny. Was anyone paying attention to what that fat blowhard Rush Limbaugh was saying during the primaries? I sure was. Not only did McCain just ROLL over the miserable selection of candidates for the Republican party (it's like they didn't even try, I did like some of Ron Paul's ideas, but jumping head first into libertarianism seems almost as dangerous to me as jumping headfirst into worldwide socialist government), but RUSH LIMBAUGH told his listeners to GO TO THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES AND VOTE FOR OBAMA, JUST TO PISS HILLARY OFF. Something FUNNY is going on there. He tried to reverse his advice later, but the die had already been cast. Republican votes that might have made the republican primaries more interesting were going to Obama.

Do I blame democrats for Obama? No. Just like I don't blame all republicans for McCain, Bush, or the religious buttfucks that infest the party... But I do think it's time more people start questioning the left/right paradigm, and I think what's happening now, while it's scary and unstable, may actually, just possibly be a good thing.

Things I am inflexible on... Roads. We need them. They must stay public. Fuck anyone who says differently.

Welfare. We're responsible for this "entitlement culture", and until we can provide the means to gently guide people who have become dependent on this system back into the productive community, we're going to have to keep paying them. Some idiots don't realize the kind of armaggeddon that would be unleashed into the streets of America if we just stop sending out payments, or attempt to lower them.

Disability. It's terrible, I wish it weren't so, but there are those out there who are unable to either work, take care of themselves, or both. I'd recommend private charities, but it's likely most of them will come with strings attached that are simply unacceptable, possibly religious obligations... Also, we can't quite trust human generosity yet... I think people have it in them, but we, as a society, need to grow a bit before we'll be ready for any steps like that.

Safety standards. Dubai, anyone?

Public education. I support a school voucher program, just to shut those Christians up who think that evolution is the spawn of the devil. Then, they can't bitch when their kid comes home from a Christian school after learning evolution (I've heard they teach it in some of them). Public education is necessary. I'm not sure if atheists have opened private schools, but they should. I believe this would be an important step in keeping religion out of government, but, I'm not terribly certain it would work the other way around. I've read up on the pros and cons of school vouchers, I'm not certain it would be the best plan, but, to tell you the truth, I'm stumped. All this bitching and complaining has to have a stop put to it somehow. Public schools must stay open, be funded, and held to certain standards.

Mostly, the tea baggers are new to the scene, they're outraged, confused, they're just realizing that they got conned. Now, they're vulnerable. Best to inject some positive influence in there before they go completely off the rails, at the hands of some outrageous radical, more than likely... There's still likely a HUGE divide in their ranks, this could be played against them to remind the more radical where they stand.

And about socialism. I think it'd be great if it would work. Can it work? I don't know, but I'm not certain the federal level is the place to test it. I was thinking, if the case were made for state's rights, would it be possible that a self-sustaining community could vote itself socialist, up to the state level? Then, we could have socialism in some parts of the country, maybe lower their taxes so they could fund their own projects (no bailouts, though), Libertarian communities in others, and more middle of the road or totalitarian systems in place wherever the residents decide by consensus to put such local governments in place. That way, if you wanted to live under a certain system of government, you could apply for citizenship in another state. Is that just dumb?

Just my ignorant spouting off at the mouth. I'm interested in feedback, perhaps in another thread (to avoid spamming this one up), but please don't call me names, that's not productive, though I can handle it. I'll try not to respond with any more knee-jerk reactions.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 07, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 06, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
The really sad thing is that the next 10 years at least are going to be full of suck and fail for America. The economy is sinking, and progressive ideas for fixing it are off the table because of the American public's sudden obsession with "fiscal responsibility" and "deficit reduction." This means, of course, that the economy will continue to sink, if not crash again, and it will all be Obama's fault because he happens to be the President while the country gets carried away with this Tea Party crap and hangs itself. Nevermind that nobody will actually let Obama do what he wants to do (and what needs to be done).

And, since it's all Obama's fault, that means it's the Democrats' fault too. And along with the Democrats, we're going to blame compassion, sympathy, mercy anything else they stand for because if one Democrat fails (although he hasn't), all Democrats and everything they believe in must obviously be failures, too. Fuck.

So America is going to start in on this great big crusade to rid itself of social leeches like "the poor" (read: lazy), "the sick" (that is, the immoral), and "the intellectuals" (or, rather, the snooty liberal elites). Basically, so much for the last 75 years.

If you're wondering where this century is heading in terms of our standard of living and social freedoms, imagine the 20th Century in reverse.

Downside?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 07, 2010, 12:54:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 07, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 06, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
The really sad thing is that the next 10 years at least are going to be full of suck and fail for America. The economy is sinking, and progressive ideas for fixing it are off the table because of the American public's sudden obsession with "fiscal responsibility" and "deficit reduction." This means, of course, that the economy will continue to sink, if not crash again, and it will all be Obama's fault because he happens to be the President while the country gets carried away with this Tea Party crap and hangs itself. Nevermind that nobody will actually let Obama do what he wants to do (and what needs to be done).

And, since it's all Obama's fault, that means it's the Democrats' fault too. And along with the Democrats, we're going to blame compassion, sympathy, mercy anything else they stand for because if one Democrat fails (although he hasn't), all Democrats and everything they believe in must obviously be failures, too. Fuck.

So America is going to start in on this great big crusade to rid itself of social leeches like "the poor" (read: lazy), "the sick" (that is, the immoral), and "the intellectuals" (or, rather, the snooty liberal elites). Basically, so much for the last 75 years.

If you're wondering where this century is heading in terms of our standard of living and social freedoms, imagine the 20th Century in reverse.

Downside?

Well none for you, you're a Mad Scientist. The future is a bottomless cornucopia of possibilities for you.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 07, 2010, 01:01:22 AM
Nobody is really stopping Obama, unless my hostage theory is correct. Obama, and the democratic party, seem to be running amok to those of us who don't agree with them, and they better, because at this rate, they're not getting elected again for a looooong time, except in certain states. They moved a little too fast... Not that the republican party is going to come in and magically fix everything that republicans disagree with... That's why they're focusing on more extreme candidates for office. The republican party and democratic party seem to simply heap more injustice and outrage on top of an already roaring fire, all the while pointing the finger at the "other guys", without doing anything about the fire.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Uh, I actually believe no-one is tying Obama's hands at all.  He's never met a problem he didn't want to compromise on, and that is why the right will eat him alive, because for them, compromise is weakness and unacceptable.  At this stage I'm already looking forward to the day he has to flee the USA just to avoid the roaming bands of lunatics that will want to kill him.  It's unfair that Bush didn't get the same send off, but such is life.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 07, 2010, 01:12:56 AM
Obama can't do everything himself. His "historic Grassroots movement" dissolved right after his election, and the Tea Party, although not as strong as it was 6 months ago, is still brainlessly dictating what politicians should be afraid of (in this case, common economic sense). There's a combination of problems in America, ranging from stupid voters to spineless politicians. In some ways I agree with Dok. Maybe the last century softened us up too much. The generations that endured the Depression and won WW2 should have realized that preventing those kinds of things, actually ends up causing them. I call it the Stupid Primate Paradox.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on July 07, 2010, 01:27:41 AM
See, while I know there is a chain of middlemen along the way from money paid into disability and welfare and the money paid out, which results in apparent loss, these middlemen are ALSO consumers, and more money paid in equals more money made by companies, and more spent on taxes, kickstarting the economy. I also understand that if the banks had gone under, we would be in deep doo-doo, but pardon me for a moment if I hold bankers to a higher standard than the average citizen...

Also, banks were provided with incentives to give loans to those who could not afford them. This current crisis is a long term result of the best of intentions. The economy took a slight downturn, and the whole problem was exacerbated by a preexisting condition, leading to a wave of foreclosures and the inevitable, but seemingly all too sudden collapse of the housing bubble. The rising cost of oil, disasters like hurricane Katrina, 9/11, the war in Iraq. No one person shares the blame for all of these things, but each one of them helped heap logs on the fire. No one wants to spend any money, but why hoard it, when you know what's coming, massive inflation. I suppose if you're smart, and make a bit of money, unlike me, you might know where to put your money so that you might actually make a profit off of this terrible turn of events.

We're going to have a new problem here soon (thanks, Ronald Reagan, for destroying all that demonic ditchweed and establishing an erroneous social concept that won't go away any fucking time in the next century) that's going to blow our fucking socks off. Anyone remember the war on drugs? Remember prohibition and why we just don't do that thing anymore? Well apparently, history fucking repeats itself. No one caught on fast enough. Now, you'll have to be thankful no one comes along and sews your head into a freaking soccer ball. And those poor people south of the border, the trouble we've caused them.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. This is not to say compassion is error... I believe many more of our serious problems, whether existing previously, currently, or in the future, have been/are/will be the result of legislating morality.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 07, 2010, 03:11:47 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 07, 2010, 12:54:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 07, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 06, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
The really sad thing is that the next 10 years at least are going to be full of suck and fail for America. The economy is sinking, and progressive ideas for fixing it are off the table because of the American public's sudden obsession with "fiscal responsibility" and "deficit reduction." This means, of course, that the economy will continue to sink, if not crash again, and it will all be Obama's fault because he happens to be the President while the country gets carried away with this Tea Party crap and hangs itself. Nevermind that nobody will actually let Obama do what he wants to do (and what needs to be done).

And, since it's all Obama's fault, that means it's the Democrats' fault too. And along with the Democrats, we're going to blame compassion, sympathy, mercy anything else they stand for because if one Democrat fails (although he hasn't), all Democrats and everything they believe in must obviously be failures, too. Fuck.

So America is going to start in on this great big crusade to rid itself of social leeches like "the poor" (read: lazy), "the sick" (that is, the immoral), and "the intellectuals" (or, rather, the snooty liberal elites). Basically, so much for the last 75 years.

If you're wondering where this century is heading in terms of our standard of living and social freedoms, imagine the 20th Century in reverse.

Downside?

Well none for you, you're a Mad Scientist. The future is a bottomless cornucopia of possibilities for you.

Yeah, you professors aren't going to have a very good century.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 07, 2010, 03:30:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 07, 2010, 03:11:47 AM
Yeah, you professors aren't going to have a very good century.

I need to finish my Ph.D in Villainy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2010, 10:47:42 AM
Oh, Obama doesn't act alone, I agree.  But his choices in people to head up the State Dept, his Chief of Staff, how he handled the whole healthcare debacle etc show he is more firmly within the centrist Democrat camp than anywhere else on the political spectrum.  And thus he moves within that highly corrupt network of people, and puts their interests first while using the rhetoric of someone more to the centre left (which is why the pwogs, easily decieved by such things, are confuzzled).

Basically, when Obama has to make a decision, this is what he will do.  He will appear hands off, even dismissive of the debate, maybe saying a few noncommittal words about the thing while passing the buck to Congress.  Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the White House will actively be gutting the most progressive measures of any legislation and then allowing Congress to present a dessicated corpse of what was originally hinted at to the public.  Pwogs will then wring their hands, go "well we may not get a chance to do something like this EVER AGAIN Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin is coming" and then proceed to expel anyone who disagrees with the legislation from the Inner Circle of True Progressivism.  Obama will then do a massive speech high on rhetoric, low on substance, demand some sort of symbolic gesture from a few token hate figures who have arisen during the process and then sit back as the outcome he originally desired is passed, with some reluctance, with the Troo Pwog Cheerleaders backing it all the way, because politics is the art of the possible and America is a centre-right nation and concern trolling generally.

And this pattern will repeat itself until Glenn Beck swallows Obama whole in 2017, possibly part of some bizarre vore fetish, but mostly because the Nazis were against cannibalism, thus proving it is something all red-blooded Americans should do daily.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2010, 10:53:05 AM
Also Fuji, the loans banks gave out were only a very small part of the problem.  They initiated the crisis, but without a range of near imcomprehensible financial products, such as CDOs, and massive, unregulated meta-speculation (banks were literally placing bets on people placing bets, that's how bad things were) the crisis wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad as it was.

Hell, if you read some internal Goldman Sachs memos, as well as pay attention to some of their people that have been dragged in front of Congress, GMS actively sought to cause a market meltdown, because they were secretly betting against banks like Lehman Brothers and AIG, often based on information that they shouldn't have had (technically called insider trading but in reality massive corporate espionage).  The biggest banks may well have wanted a meltdown because they knew they were "too well connected big to fail" and so when the bailouts came, they could then buy up their less fortunate opposition at bargain basement prices, or else just take over their markets.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on July 07, 2010, 02:16:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
Uh, I actually believe no-one is tying Obama's hands at all.  He's never met a problem he didn't want to compromise on, and that is why the right will eat him alive, because for them, compromise is weakness and unacceptable.  At this stage I'm already looking forward to the day he has to flee the USA just to avoid the roaming bands of lunatics that will want to kill him.  It's unfair that Bush didn't get the same send off, but such is life.

I have to agree with Cain here.  I think Obama probably had every intention to come in and get stuff done.  Healthcare, clean energy, DADT, stimulus, education, etc., etc.  Then the Gates thing happened.  Everyone and their uncle from the right pounced and pretty much crucified him in the press, even though, he was pretty much correct with what he said at that press conference.  He got scared, and ever since, he's been the Compromiser in Chief.

At this point, his Presidency feels like a bandaid.  He's probably been successful in stopping the bleeding from the wound that Bush & Co. caused.  But he has been unsuccessful in rallying the Democrats and the electorate that put him into office to actually get any meaningful agenda going.  Healthcare was a meh.  If the financial reform thing ever gets passed it will be the same deal.  Bottom line, the Republicans and the Tea Party nuts made him blink.  If he doesn't get his stones back, and soon.  I dunno. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 07, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
I think Obama means well, and I think at heart he is more liberal than Cain says. But he is also an opportunist and he's got a metric fucktonne of ambition. He's cold and calculated, even if he has a heart for the "little people." So right now I think he's trying to play everything safe. I don't expect to see him make any drastic moves unless he gets re-elected. But that likely won't happen for the reasons I gave earlier.

Because he is playing everything so safe and compromising away everything he can get his hands off of, he is seen as weak and ineffective, even if these "compromises" amount to more than has been done in the Progressive vein for 40 years. Then again, it's kind of funny to watch Obama being groomed and managed by people who obviously have no clue about how to present a President to the public, ruining his image before he ever gets a chance to ruin it himself (which he would, if they gave him a chance).

I don't think most Americans are really sure what they want, though, so to try and please us at this point is probably pointless anyway.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on July 07, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 07, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
I don't think most Americans are really sure what they want, though, so to try and please us at this point is probably pointless anyway.

there's iron in those words, i think.
i sure as hell don't know what i would do, if given the reins...
further, the ones that are 'sure' of what they want are wrong, for various reasons, from what i've seen.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 08, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
From the comment section over at Clownhall (http://townhall.com/columnists/MaggieGallagher/2010/07/08/gov_paterson,_please_veto_the_pro-divorce_bill):

Quote
The easier divorce becomes, the more people will use divorce as an escape from responsibility and work. Sure, there are some divorces that are truly necessary (my own was a prime example). But such divorces are in the minority; they should be the *majority* of (a much smaller number of) divorces.

:lulz: I nearly poomped myself.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 11, 2010, 04:38:53 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/sharron-angle-opposes-abo_n_629371.html

QuoteManders: I, too, am pro life but I'm also pro choice, do you understand what I mean when I say that.

Angle: I'm pro responsible choice. There is choice to abstain choice to do contraception. There are all kind of good choices.

Manders: Is there any reason at all for an abortion?

Angle: Not in my book.

Manders: So, in other words, rape and incest would not be something?

Angle: You know, I'm a Christian and I believe that God has a plan and a purpose for each one of our lives and that he can intercede in all kinds of situations and we need to have a little faith in many things.

That's right, God has a plan for incest babies. Probably something to do with a banjo.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 11, 2010, 06:24:21 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on July 07, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 07, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
I don't think most Americans are really sure what they want, though, so to try and please us at this point is probably pointless anyway.

there's iron in those words, i think.
i sure as hell don't know what i would do, if given the reins...
further, the ones that are 'sure' of what they want are wrong, for various reasons, from what i've seen.


It is important to remember that democracy is predicated on the assumption that people know what they want.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 11, 2010, 06:31:14 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 11, 2010, 06:24:21 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on July 07, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on July 07, 2010, 03:10:51 PM
I don't think most Americans are really sure what they want, though, so to try and please us at this point is probably pointless anyway.

there's iron in those words, i think.
i sure as hell don't know what i would do, if given the reins...
further, the ones that are 'sure' of what they want are wrong, for various reasons, from what i've seen.


It is important to remember that democracy is predicated on the assumption that people know what they want.

Or at least that they know what's good for them. Either way, we're screwed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on July 12, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on July 11, 2010, 04:38:53 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/sharron-angle-opposes-abo_n_629371.html

QuoteManders: I, too, am pro life but I'm also pro choice, do you understand what I mean when I say that.

Angle: I'm pro responsible choice. There is choice to abstain choice to do contraception. There are all kind of good choices.

Manders: Is there any reason at all for an abortion?

Angle: Not in my book.

Manders: So, in other words, rape and incest would not be something?

Angle: You know, I'm a Christian and I believe that God has a plan and a purpose for each one of our lives and that he can intercede in all kinds of situations and we need to have a little faith in many things.

That's right, God has a plan for incest babies. Probably something to do with a banjo.

The irrationality stings like a motherfu- okay, that would have been in bad taste.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on July 13, 2010, 12:00:54 AM
Sorcerer Terrorism (http://unitedfreedomfrontproductions.com/blank.html)!
This whole page is gold.
Quote
Dear 50 Governors of America, The Governments of each State of America, (sent to the fifty governor of America news and UN offices around the world, and more)

Hi my name is Paiboon Sunthonchart Jr. I am the author of "Freedom From The Word', and "The Devil is Forgiven"... I have had the number one most looked at website out of over a million websites, when looking up "Sorcery Rape" and google.com... I am also the main source for Bible Scripture in "The Sorcery War" for the world.

... Today in America, America is battling Sorcerer Terrorism, from neighbor and what must be stopped, government from President Obama, to partner Hillary Clinton, and computer men terrorist, who are working in wars of terror, that has even raped people, along with attacks attacking children and families.

What is going to come to this terrorism attacking from a few people, but in the divinity war, attacking the world from only a few people. In Saudia Arabia and other countries, these types of treason, are crimes leading to death. Right now Clinton and Obama, and computer hacker terrorist, could be looking at murder charges from the government, along with charges of treason, attacking all of Americans ... ... The people of America, want to know what is the government going to do to stop, the terrorism coming from the government.

- Government arresting these terrorist working in America, must happen, for the three hundred million American's they have attacked. There should be no thought of impeachment but arresting the terrorist in governments working in witchcraft, remember, witchcraft is a crime.

- What is the world to think, when they shout, they are going to take over the world, and attack people, people of America, who do not agree will think, that they are bringing threats of bombs to our country and people of America, for government officials, talking loud and stupid in the war of Holy. It is stupid business of high school bullies, of only a small hand-full of terrorism by sorcery, that American government must stop. To American people and governments watching The American Civil War of Sorcery, American government looks weak, and the American people will see the same about the government, when the American government is afraid and ran by people afraid of a few sorcerers, when the Americans in the working world, take the sorcerers they are afraid of, out of body.

Remember, President is sworn in by the Bible, the courthouses will use the Bible, our public school teaches of God, our money will teach of "in God We Trust"... and our "Pledge of Allegiance" will teach that America is one nation under God, and the people want to live in freedom... All countries of the world, and the American's need the fifty governors of American States to stand strong against this government sorcery, and all sorcery attacking the world.

Thank- you Paiboon Sunthonchart Jr.

Sunthonchart is a write-in candidate for the Senate in Florida.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 01:11:53 PM
I wonder who exactly decides to google "sorcery rape" on a whim...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on July 13, 2010, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 01:11:53 PM
I wonder who exactly decides to google "sorcery rape" on a whim...

Snape/Potter slashfic aficionados?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2010, 02:06:36 PM
Good point, I should have thought of that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2010, 03:17:43 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on July 13, 2010, 12:00:54 AM
Sorcerer Terrorism (http://unitedfreedomfrontproductions.com/blank.html)!
This whole page is gold.
Quote
Dear 50 Governors of America, The Governments of each State of America, (sent to the fifty governor of America news and UN offices around the world, and more)

Hi my name is Paiboon Sunthonchart Jr. I am the author of "Freedom From The Word', and "The Devil is Forgiven"... I have had the number one most looked at website out of over a million websites, when looking up "Sorcery Rape" and google.com... I am also the main source for Bible Scripture in "The Sorcery War" for the world.

... Today in America, America is battling Sorcerer Terrorism, from neighbor and what must be stopped, government from President Obama, to partner Hillary Clinton, and computer men terrorist, who are working in wars of terror, that has even raped people, along with attacks attacking children and families.

What is going to come to this terrorism attacking from a few people, but in the divinity war, attacking the world from only a few people. In Saudia Arabia and other countries, these types of treason, are crimes leading to death. Right now Clinton and Obama, and computer hacker terrorist, could be looking at murder charges from the government, along with charges of treason, attacking all of Americans ... ... The people of America, want to know what is the government going to do to stop, the terrorism coming from the government.

- Government arresting these terrorist working in America, must happen, for the three hundred million American's they have attacked. There should be no thought of impeachment but arresting the terrorist in governments working in witchcraft, remember, witchcraft is a crime.

- What is the world to think, when they shout, they are going to take over the world, and attack people, people of America, who do not agree will think, that they are bringing threats of bombs to our country and people of America, for government officials, talking loud and stupid in the war of Holy. It is stupid business of high school bullies, of only a small hand-full of terrorism by sorcery, that American government must stop. To American people and governments watching The American Civil War of Sorcery, American government looks weak, and the American people will see the same about the government, when the American government is afraid and ran by people afraid of a few sorcerers, when the Americans in the working world, take the sorcerers they are afraid of, out of body.

Remember, President is sworn in by the Bible, the courthouses will use the Bible, our public school teaches of God, our money will teach of "in God We Trust"... and our "Pledge of Allegiance" will teach that America is one nation under God, and the people want to live in freedom... All countries of the world, and the American's need the fifty governors of American States to stand strong against this government sorcery, and all sorcery attacking the world.

Thank- you Paiboon Sunthonchart Jr.

Sunthonchart is a write-in candidate for the Senate in Florida.

He's probably right, you know.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on July 13, 2010, 08:55:09 PM
Just not in the way he thinks he's right.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
Remember kids, providing healthcare to millions without coverage (no matter how misguided or with the intent to enrich one's political backers) makes you de facto guilty of tyranny and genocide.

Asserting the power to assassinate anyone in the world and sending out fleets of killer robots to bomb Pakistani villagers = perfectly normal operation of a liberal democracy which respects human rights.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
Remember kids, providing healthcare to millions without coverage (no matter how misguided or with the intent to enrich one's political backers) makes you de facto guilty of tyranny and genocide.


And leads to terrorist kissing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
And equally, the latter totally doesn't cause people to, say, build car bombs and then leave them in Times Square.  Because people love getting bombed. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2010, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2010, 07:41:20 PM
And equally, the latter totally doesn't cause people to, say, build car bombs and then leave them in Times Square.  Because people love getting bombed. 

THAT WAS A FRAME JOB BY THE LIBERAL HIPPIE PEACENIK MILITANTS WHO WANT DECENT PEOPLE TO WAIT IN LINE FOR HEALTH CARE WITH SMUDGY PEOPLE.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 17, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/candidate-keep-states-complexion-white

QuoteIt's a matter of black and white, says Ryan Murdough, Republican candidate for the State House in Grafton County's 8th District.

No room for gray area. And no room for Asians or Hispanics or Jews or African-Americans or American Indians, either.

Just Americans. Real Americans. Plymouth Rock Americans. White Americans who bleed red, white and blue. Uncle Sam wants them. To anyone else, don't let Lady Liberty hit you on the butt on your way out of New York Harbor.

You're not welcome here.

"I would like to preserve what we have before it gets totally out of control," Murdough, a 30-year-old father of two young boys, said last week. "The more it becomes non-white, the more it's going to become a much different place to live, for white people especially."

...

"I would ask you about your version of racist," Murdough said. "The word does not have a specific definition. If someone says, 'You seem to hate people who aren't white,'
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 17, 2010, 07:31:46 PM
Shorter Ryan Murdough:

Quote"I'm not racist, I just don't like that nigger-communist MLK or that nigger-lover Lincoln and don't want to live around niggers.  Also, fuck the Jews, seriously."

For a guy so incredibly racist, he sure does have quite a tan...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on July 19, 2010, 11:27:48 PM
So here's something.

Dick Cheney's doctors have finally confirmed what much of America has known for years: the man has no pulse. For srs, now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?_r=1)
QuoteFormer Vice President Dick Cheney is recuperating from surgery to implant the kind of mechanical pump now being given to a small but growing number of people with heart failure so severe that they would most likely die within a few months without it.

The pumps are partial artificial hearts known as ventricular assist devices, and they come in various models. Mr. Cheney's kind is about the size of a D battery and leaves most recipients without a pulse because it pushes blood continuously instead of mimicking the heart's own pulsatile beat. Most such pulse-less patients feel nothing unusual. But they are urged to wear bracelets or other identifications to alert emergency room doctors as to why they have no pulse.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 19, 2010, 11:44:56 PM
God, I wonder what that'd be like.  Never again to be able to sit in a quiet room and feel his own heartbeat in his ears.


Couldn't have happened to a better person. :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 20, 2010, 01:04:28 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 19, 2010, 11:44:56 PM
God, I wonder what that'd be like.  Never again to be able to sit in a quiet room and feel his own heartbeat in his ears.


Couldn't have happened to a better person. :lulz:

I hate feeling my own heartbeat. It reminds me of how it will inevitably stop someday.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 20, 2010, 01:14:25 AM
I guess not everyone's cut out for mortality.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 20, 2010, 03:48:32 AM
Quote from: Remington on July 19, 2010, 11:27:48 PM
Mr. Cheney's kind... leaves most recipients without a pulse...

ZOMG THE LIZARD ALIEN GUY IS RIGHT - HES NOT HUMAN 1!!!

:ohnoes: :omg:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on July 20, 2010, 03:27:34 PM
The Vader references suddenly become even more valid.  Except, Cheney seems to be much more resilient than Vader.  Which is really fucking scary if you ask me. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 27, 2010, 04:07:02 AM
Quote from: RWHN on July 20, 2010, 03:27:34 PM
The Vader references suddenly become even more valid.  Except, Cheney seems to be much more resilient than Vader.  Which is really fucking scary if you ask me.  

I thought sending him off on a spaceship would be a good idea, but I realized there's always the chance he'll come back and rise up against us.

Better to keep him here so we can be sure when he's dead.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on July 27, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
Quote from: Remington on July 19, 2010, 11:27:48 PM
So here's something.

Dick Cheney's doctors have finally confirmed what much of America has known for years: the man has no pulse. For srs, now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?_r=1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?_r=1)
QuoteFormer Vice President Dick Cheney is recuperating from surgery to implant the kind of mechanical pump now being given to a small but growing number of people with heart failure so severe that they would most likely die within a few months without it.

The pumps are partial artificial hearts known as ventricular assist devices, and they come in various models. Mr. Cheney's kind is about the size of a D battery and leaves most recipients without a pulse because it pushes blood continuously instead of mimicking the heart's own pulsatile beat. Most such pulse-less patients feel nothing unusual. But they are urged to wear bracelets or other identifications to alert emergency room doctors as to why they have no pulse.

:lulz:

That is too perfect.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 27, 2010, 06:25:26 AM
Cheney will outlive rock and roll.  Mark my words.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 04:23:57 AM
HE'S PICKLED!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 28, 2010, 04:50:44 AM
You know that plastification thing they did to preserve human bodies for that exhibit? 

That's the next step.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 04:59:26 AM
(I think it might have already happened to him...)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on July 28, 2010, 05:08:52 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 28, 2010, 04:50:44 AM
You know that plastification thing they did to preserve human bodies for that exhibit? 

That's the next step.
I would disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum#Preserving_the_body (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum#Preserving_the_body)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on July 28, 2010, 05:12:56 AM
That rules.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 02, 2010, 11:55:31 AM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/mathfail-john-thunes-plan-to-eliminate-deficits-in-10-20-years.php?ref=fpa

QuoteAppearing on Fox News, Thune and host Greta Van Susteren discussed the bill's call for the creation of a Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction, tasked with reducing the deficit 10 percent year over year.

"It would be required to find 10% in savings—10% of the deficit in savings every budget cycle," Thune said.

"So in 10 years we wouldn't have a deficit?" van Sustern asked.

"Theoretically, yes," Thune replied. "10% Is a floor. Obviously—you can go beyond that."

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Adios on August 02, 2010, 01:21:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 02, 2010, 11:55:31 AM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/mathfail-john-thunes-plan-to-eliminate-deficits-in-10-20-years.php?ref=fpa

QuoteAppearing on Fox News, Thune and host Greta Van Susteren discussed the bill's call for the creation of a Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction, tasked with reducing the deficit 10 percent year over year.

"It would be required to find 10% in savings—10% of the deficit in savings every budget cycle," Thune said.

"So in 10 years we wouldn't have a deficit?" van Sustern asked.

"Theoretically, yes," Thune replied. "10% Is a floor. Obviously—you can go beyond that."

:lulz:

:lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pæs on August 02, 2010, 04:39:06 PM
 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on August 03, 2010, 06:11:53 AM
He must have meant 10% of the total original deficit, without knowing how to convey that.

And if he did, he's still dumb. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on August 03, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
http://iowaindependent.com/40455/iowa-activist-compares-gay-marriage-to-toyota-recall-salmonella

QuoteThis is not about hate. Let me ask you this. Recently, there was a series of cars that were recalled by a manufacturer because gas pedals would supposedly take off, and people were injured. Would it be hateful to tell someone they may have a car that was recalled even though they might be embarrassed? But your car is cool. They were hip. They were doing the 'in' thing. Or is it more loving to tell them, 'Man, I hate to tell you bad news, but you might want to have that checked. You're in danger.' Seems more loving to me.

We recalled peanut butter because it's dangerous. If you were sitting across the table from someone and you knew they were eating contaminated food that would do them bodily harm, would it be more loving to keep your mouth shut or to speak up? You know the truth, and so do I.  What we're talking about today is not hateful. Stopping someone from hurting themselves and hurting society is not hateful.

:? :? :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 04, 2010, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on August 03, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
http://iowaindependent.com/40455/iowa-activist-compares-gay-marriage-to-toyota-recall-salmonella

QuoteThis is not about hate. Let me ask you this. Recently, there was a series of cars that were recalled by a manufacturer because gas pedals would supposedly take off, and people were injured. Would it be hateful to tell someone they may have a car that was recalled even though they might be embarrassed? But your car is cool. They were hip. They were doing the 'in' thing. Or is it more loving to tell them, 'Man, I hate to tell you bad news, but you might want to have that checked. You're in danger.' Seems more loving to me.

We recalled peanut butter because it's dangerous. If you were sitting across the table from someone and you knew they were eating contaminated food that would do them bodily harm, would it be more loving to keep your mouth shut or to speak up? You know the truth, and so do I.  What we're talking about today is not hateful. Stopping someone from hurting themselves and hurting society is not hateful.

:? :? :?

I actually see the logic here.  This strikes me as someone who might be susceptible to the Gays disprove evolution arguement.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 05, 2010, 01:18:56 AM
Sure, once you throw out that they are comparing homosexuality to salmonella and other things that can KILL you.  :lulz:

IT'S SO BAD, IT'S LIKE A RUNAWAY CAR ON A FREEWAY GOING 90 MPH--IS GONNA KEEEEEL YOU!  IT'S SO BAD, IT'S LIKE EAT DA BAD FOODS--IS GONNA KEEEEEL YOU!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 05, 2010, 04:45:12 AM
Quote from: Jenne on August 05, 2010, 01:18:56 AM
Sure, once you throw out that they are comparing homosexuality to salmonella and other things that can KILL you.  :lulz:

IT'S SO BAD, IT'S LIKE A RUNAWAY CAR ON A FREEWAY GOING 90 MPH--IS GONNA KEEEEEL YOU!  IT'S SO BAD, IT'S LIKE EAT DA BAD FOODS--IS GONNA KEEEEEL YOU!

well, they think it will kill you.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on August 05, 2010, 06:06:40 AM
Worse than that, they think it will kill your 'Soul'.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 05, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
MEET NEW GOVERNOR (http://www.epicfail.com/2010/08/02/running-for-governor-fail/)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 05, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on August 05, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
MEET NEW GOVERNOR (http://www.epicfail.com/2010/08/02/running-for-governor-fail/)

:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 05, 2010, 09:08:10 PM
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/08/03/becks-tea-party-runs-the-gop-eventually-into-the-ground/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+OliverWillisLikeKryptoniteToStupid+(Oliver+Willis:+Like+Kryptonite+To+Stupid)

QuoteI sat down, and they said on the back of your Social Security card, there's a number. That number indicates the bank that bought you when you were born based on a projection of your life's earnings, and you are collateral. We are all collateral for the banks. I have this look like, 'What the heck are you talking about?' I'm trying to hide that look and look clueless. I figured clueless was better than argumentative. So they said, 'You don't know this?! You are a member of Congress, and you don't know this?!' And I said, 'Please forgive me. I'm just ignorant of these things.' And then of course, it turned into something about the Federal Reserve and the Bilderbergers and all that stuff. And now you have the feeling of anti-Semitism here coming in, mixing in. Wow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on August 06, 2010, 01:57:53 PM
Wow.  Apparently, even after all my time here, I can still be stunned into silence by abject stupidity.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 11, 2010, 01:28:27 AM
I'm not entireley sure if this is serious or not:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2010/08/i_knew_we_were_evil_but_i_didn/atheistSociety.php
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 05, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on August 05, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
MEET NEW GOVERNOR (http://www.epicfail.com/2010/08/02/running-for-governor-fail/)

:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:

I think this man should get our full, unswerving support.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Epimetheus on August 11, 2010, 02:49:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2010, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 05, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on August 05, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
MEET NEW GOVERNOR (http://www.epicfail.com/2010/08/02/running-for-governor-fail/)

:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:

I think this man should get our full, unswerving support.
:aaa:

...YES.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Epimetheus on August 11, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
LOOK WHAT I FOUND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnx-SqMYknI
and his channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Marceaux2010
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on August 12, 2010, 09:49:25 AM
He got 3508 votes for governor and 655 for House of Representatives.

http://state.tn.us/sos/election/results/Rep%20GovUSHouseTotal.pdf
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 13, 2010, 08:43:05 PM
Stephen Colbert's been having TONS O FUN with ol' Basil for a while now.  I almost feel sorry for this good ol' boy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on August 13, 2010, 11:51:55 PM
I still have to wonder if he's forrealz, or trollin.

He never did reply to my email. :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on August 14, 2010, 02:50:33 AM
I'm Basil Marceaux dot com.

There isn't an amused enough emoticon.

Anywhere.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 14, 2010, 03:34:04 AM
I'm waiting for internet memehood.

also this:

QuoteAt a debate in Nashville, Marceaux.com and two other candidates tried to begin by saying the Pledge of Allegiance, but Marceaux.com refused to say it because the flag had gold fringe. After a fruitless search for another flag, Marceaux.com simply left the room. When he returned, the entire contingent had to repeat the Pledge to a picture of the American flag on an audience member's cell phone. And that's when things really got weird.

In addition to contending that Native Americans came from Asia and Greece and saying he would do away with Thanksgiving, Marceaux.com said he would round up everyone who looked Mexican and send them south of the border. If they had a Green Card, he contended, they could be allowed to return. Throughout the event, Marceaux.com kept falling asleep standing up at his podium because he said he hadn't slept in days.
source (http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/08/06/a-fond-adieu-to-tennessees-basil-marceaux-com/#ixzz0wXnHScU9)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jasper on August 14, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Wow.


Dok will be getting his wish for crazier people in politics.  Guaranteed.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 16, 2010, 10:00:16 PM
This person's a parody of a parody.  LOVE HIM.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on August 16, 2010, 10:35:20 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on August 14, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Wow.


Dok will be getting his wish for crazier people in politics.  Guaranteed.  :lulz:


Quote
in a state where two of the top candidates made headlines for suggesting Tennessee could consider secession (Rep. Zach Wamp) or that that Islam might not be a religion (Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey)


You know he might not have been the craziest person in the race.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 16, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
Tr00f.  I love how the fringes are just REALLY out of the woodwork now.

THANK YOU SARAH PALIN.  YOU HAVE NOW HIT THE RESET BUTTON FOR CRAZY CANDIDATES.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on August 16, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
http://wonkette.com/417188/basil-marceauxs-exploiters-staged-a-debate-and-it-made-lincoln-douglas-look-like-a-conversation-between-two-retarded-baby-pandas

it was crazier then that article makes it out to be. And there is something going behind the scenes. Someone's going to make money exploiting this crazy guy.

QuoteAs for the campaign... I'm all about making fun of shit, but this is just sad. Still not sure how the campaign manager came upon the job, but the his name is James Crenshaw. He's in a back brace and uses a cane to get around because he fell off a balcony one night at a party. At any rate, he took over the campaign after the original video aired on WSMV, put together a team of cameramen and they're following Basil around shooting footage for a possible documentary. One of the other guys is a local DJ named Pimp Daddy Supreme whose real name is Shane Martin...
Basil thanked James and the staff for the support and called James up on the stage at the end to thank everyone for coming since I guess he was the one who organized it....Then Crazy June Griffin prayed for the all the athiests and everyone milled around a bit. James kept telling the cameramen to "stay on Basil" and make sure they caught everything.
Basil was talking to everyone and asking for us to mail him pictures ("The hard copy, not like the Twitter copy because Twitter is on paper.") He kept telling everyone he was famous in Hollywood now, and he was really proud of it. At one point, he pulled out three giant magnets that he has on his truck that probably say outrageous things about traffic stop slavery, and his campaign people ushered him off to a corner with better light to show them off and talk about them on camera. Basil was almost falling over trying to get the magnets spread out on the floor and hasn't slept in days.
He seems to really have no idea people are making fun of him in this way. I'm pretty sure his staff is just telling him that people are making fun of his morals and stances and he needs to stand up for what he believes in. He's just sort of a sad old dude that a bunch of people decided to pick up and exploit. Meanwhile, Crazy June Griffin took over the piano in the corner and played repeated loud renditions of God Bless America until she realized no one cared and stomped out.
wtf?
...He frequently went off on tangents and then later asked to re-answer the questions because he was sleep-deprived and hadn't slept since Monday. He asked for some water and Howard Switzer let him drink from his water bottle while Switzer's campaign manager/wife (maybe?) hollered at him to wipe the rim when Basil was done drinking...

saying this is a circus is an understatement

...Things got really interesting when June Griffin went on a passionate tirade about Native Americans and how they ruined the country until we civilized them. The audience went absolutely apeshit on her. That's when the entire thing really started to fall apart, I guess. Basil rebutted by sticking up for the Indians and how they came from Asia and Greece to found our country and they're our brothers and sisters and he wants to have them over for Thanksgiving dinner. Actually, he said, if he were governor he would cancel Thanksgiving because there should be no Thanksgiving without the Native Americans at the table. This is the point at which June Griffin's Crazy completely eclipsed Basil's nuttery and somehow he actually started to look pretty good..

There's probably too much to try to relay, but there were some golden quotes from Basil (such as "I'm like MacGuyver, I'm gonna put down traps for the Mexicans....they're coming too fast!" and "I'm not gonna let them pass a law making women go topless... If you want me federal government, come see me! I'm a Marine, I deserve a flyover.") The entire thing was hilarious, but then I came away feeling like I'd just kicked the shit out of a handicapped kid on the playground.

Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/417188/basil-marceauxs-exploiters-staged-a-debate-and-it-made-lincoln-douglas-look-like-a-conversation-between-two-retarded-baby-pandas#ixzz0woAY9XeL



Somebody is making money from this lunacy, and something tells me their names will be James, and Pimp Daddy Supreme.
Im kind of torn on this one. One hand.. hell letting a sucker keep his money... yadda yadda... but one the other hand this Basil guy doesn't seem like he has the mental capacity to even be considered a sucker, and if that is the case, that's just sad.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 19, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
I think Basil's out of the running.  Don't remember where I read that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2010, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: Jenne on August 19, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
I think Basil's out of the running.  Don't remember where I read that.

This makes me sad.   :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 22, 2010, 07:00:01 PM
Here, Rog, something to cheer you up from the man's own site (I have yet to find confirmation he's absolutely out of the running, because seems he's gained popularity through the internet!):

(http://politics.freesitenow.com/basilmarceauxforgovernor/images/Basil.JPG)

This candidate is under oath in all of these federal acts,
1. PROTECT AND DEFEND OATH FOR LIFE HOLDER.

Comes this candidate with the "Little and Brown" edition of law and treaties to protect the citizens of the U.S. land sea, domestic and foreign against all enemy as described in the authority of the U.S. code title 1 chapter 2 section 113 the "Little and Brown" edition of law and treaties on page iii where it is claimed that a section of government with a protect and defend oath shall protect the constitution , the only one in this nation with a protect and defend oath is "a Marine" where all tribunals and public offices of the U.S. need to honor without any further proof

2. A SUCH PERSON

under EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION
Whereas on the 22nd day of September, A.D. 1862, a proclamation. was issued by the President of the United States, containing, among other things, the follow & to be whit the U.S and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them,, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom or any of them to keep people free. This is a marine because the pentagon says a marine is a marine for life and their oath is for ever----------

3.FREEMEN'S BUREAU COMMISSIONER

Using the Means of vindication Sec.4 On April 9 1866 which was adopted into the 14th amendment that says a Freemen's Bureau Agent shall be, and they are hereby, specially authorized and required, at the expense of the United States to institute proceeding against all and everybody' who shall violate the provision of the act called Means of vindication act.
, they are hereby authorize and empowered, within their counties respectfully, with authority to summon and call to their aid a innocent bystander clause of the constitution which prohibits slavery, i
.
3. A GREAT MAN
As a member of the Freedmen's Bureau the Revised Act of 1866-Federal Act 241 ,1866-- . Who are they? Are they persons belonging to the Army or Navy of the United States? And can you by act of Congress say that A B, who in fact is in civil life, An attempt is made by this law, therefore, to subvert a plain, palpable provision of the Federal Constitution by rendering civilians subject to military jurisdiction and affording them military protection. And you bring him in direct conflict with the civil authority

We exempt him in fact from trial for any wrong whatever, murder, breach of the peace, or any crime that can be committed. You exempt the party committing such offenses from responsibility to the civil tribunals.

This provision of this law is totally subversive of the civil law of the land, and it is subjecting the civil authority in time of peace to the military authority.

These commissioners and agents are made judges, and judges in reference to title to lands, and judges, too, from whose decision there is to be no appeal.

I" argues that the county legal system makes most of the oath takers to break their oath and to refused to listen to U.S, Supreme Court order to balance the budget though False arrest , linking the county to Slavers, Kidnapper extortionists. Racketeers, jury fixers, and all felony crimes

I , Basil Marceaux argue why does a marine go to Leavenworth when they breaks their oath, and when civilian breaks their oath they are all immumed, does that sound like justice?

Free the slaves at traffic stops from false arrest and jury fixing

Email: reconmarine6@excite.com
www.BasilMarceaux.com
www.youtube.com/basilmarceaux


Things of important

1. Can a higher court say no to 2nd traffic stops
And a county court say yes overruling the higher
court,
No they can not! But they everyday in Tennessee.
Are you duly convicted? No I would take 12 stuns' to protect a citizen . Would a lawyer?
No they will not! They do not even read Knowels vs. Iowa? Tenn vs. Pucket


2.The State fuel budget is a concern of mine it may Hinder safety side of our government. I would introduce a bill to make all the state vacant land that are open field and along the high way a farm and this farm will plant corn products and other plant life that can be use for alterative fuel


The 13th says criminal are slaves so we will take non.- violent criminals who are duly convicted and aloud them to work our farms to plant, take care of, harvest, put are the product into trucks where they took too the refiner ,give them some of the product to pay for process and we will take the rest in money or alternate fuel too be delivered too cities, counties around the state.

3. I would like to update the monitory car insurance to match the federal insurance act where they say if you do not know the name and address of the person who will get the check when you pay you money to your agent it is gaming and we can not gamble in Tenn, right now we are gaming. My plan would lower car insurance by 45% . With this plan to follow federal
act is too insure your our car and nobody else because the only name we will know who will get the check is ourselves who pay the money to agent. We have no insurable interest in any other person

Citizens who get food stamp and S/S check can not afford to buy where food now can they afford to pay Insurance we would need to find a way to pay the insurance for them.

4. My friends a beer stores say they must check 200 D/L a day that 400 minutes a day per clerk which is over 6 hours at $ 7.00 a hour that $ 42.00, with it mandatory then we must pay them.

5. I believe we must hate the U.S. Flag because we fly the wrong one and when we fly the right one we and the government fly it wrong. Can we start honoring the flag Again.

6. Either as a senator and when I run for 2010 governor post I will recall all gun permits and registrations and we will not had any registration in this state. The right
too bear arms against our government and not burglars must be protected after the Supreme court ruling.

7. I find it hard to take a campaign fund from anyone because if they give me money they expect something and then they seal it with a hand shack . I think this is bribery
so to keep everybody honest lets put all funds in one bucket, then divide the bucket by cities, counties and state ,then divide those buckets among who ever once want to run and
nobody owes anybody.

8. Education ,let us put phonics back in school if you can not read you can not do History, Math, English. And that where we are now. Let make it mandatory in high school to read the
minutes to the U.S. Congress , the Congressional Globe the real history of the U.S

9 Look for my citizens enemy!


People Called to stop Slavery at traffic stop they
all say county court can not
overrule supreme court ,but
no-one will help while 1.8
billion is stole by false arrest

All U.S. Senators
All U.S. Congressmen
F.B.I. Chatt. And Wash.
U.S. Marshal
Secret Service
United Nation
Department of Defense
Army and Navy
National Guard
All state Senator
All state house Reps.
T.B.I.
Governor
All Newspapers

Who going to help us







Things I done for my citizens

1.Served in the U.S. Marine as a Force Recon, Bn. Recon, and a plain Marine who is maintain and recognized as once a Marine always a Marine with a Protect and Defend Oath land and sea , foreign and domestic against all enemy land and sea for life and no other services has this authority .

2. Filed suit against Governor Sunquest for promoting Slavery in Tenn.

3.. Filed a suit against Soddy Daisy Judge for promoting slaving at traffic stops.

4 .Filled a suit against Chattanooga Free Press, Tennessean, all TV stations , Hamilton county attorney, D/A for extortion jury fixing,, racketeering, promoting slavery at traffic stops.

5.Filled a suit against Chattanooga Free Press, Tennessean, all TV stations , Cumberland county attorney, D/A for extortion jury fixing,, racketeering, promoting slavery at traffic stops

6.Filled a suit against Chattanooga Free Press, Tennessean, all TV stations , Bradley county attorney, D/A for extortion jury fixing,, racketeering, promoting slavery at traffic stops.

7. All cases was taken all the way to Tennessee Supreme Court all dismiss allowing counties court to overruled the U.S. Supreme Court concerning traffic stops and media protect them Let me us put me in office.

8 Fix the Flag at Mill Park to fly right at a high cost of 12 stun by stun gun and now it fly right thank to 311.

9 Ran for governor for three times, state senator 4 times, U.S. Senate once.
Click Here: Name: State laws are they constitutional? Knowels v Iowa Law suit against Tennessee elected persons and all lawyers. ================================================== 
Click here for : 1.Can a Democrat say the pledge of allegiance ? 2. can an U.S. Marine force Recon civilian like the first three that goes into any battle first repersent a group of citizens in a court of law?  U.S.invasion of July 16 1866----FEDERAL ACT 241 who invaded us- onJuly 16 1866-----who are they----the constittution is a dead letter 
Name: Basil marceaux Sr.
Place of Resident: 810 Hyatte Rd Soddy Daisy,Tn
Married with two boys one 24 the other 22
Place of Birth: Strousburg,Pa.
Date of Birth: May 26,1952
Owner of A granny sayer's G.N.B.Co.
Education: 13 3/4 years
Service: U.S.Marine-Force Recon 71-73 L/Cpl
Trade school:
1. General Motor Training center Buick division in New Jersey.
A.Study management,Marketing complate training in auto repair'
2. Tne National Institute for Automotive , Excellence program.
3. World trade Studies of importing,
exporting, Custom Regulations- tariffs and forms,
Quotation Analysis, Sales Agreements of all major countries,Buying and selling.

Home Studies:
1. Evecutive Motivation Program, By Paul Meyer
2. Dynamics of Creative Selling, By Paul Meyer
3. Person Success Planning,By Paul Meyer
4. Seed of Greatness, By Dennis Waitly
5. Marketing Plan workshop,James Makens
6.Human Resource Director, By Mary Cook
7.Executive Time Management,By Thomas Publishing


WHAT IMPORTANT:
1.Education
a. School violents
b. Add reading of the minutes to the U.S.Congress mandatory
c. Get more of the lottery money to 1-12

2.Equal Health care
a. a free gift program
b. take a look at and redo all mandtory insurance programs
c. See why dental is not in most plans a tooth aches hurt more than a back aches and no teeths depresses people

3.Citzens Safety+Citizens Constitution Rights

4.Improving Our Environment

5.Budget

6.Open doors more for Tn.food manufactures

7.My plan will give the state free gas for all governmental cars and trucks

8.Make the U.S. Flag in all state buildings and court fly right. if you fly a U.S.Flag you will fly it right

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on August 22, 2010, 07:02:54 PM
...the man does have a point about having no teefs.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 02, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/julieingersoll/3262/kirk_cameron_joins_the_anti-mormon_chorus_%28sort_of%29__/
Quote

While a number of conservative Christian leaders raise questions about Glenn Beck's Mormonism, Worldview Matters' host Brannon Howse continued his attack in a conversation with Kirk Cameron about why Cameron did not participate in Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny. Howse marveled at the "thick irony" wherein Cameron (the actor who played Buck, the converted journalist warning about the "demonic spirituality of a one world religion" in the Left Behind movies) was stepping up to critique the pluralistic spirituality promoted by Beck. In Howse's view, the not-so-fictional Left Behind novels are being played out before our eyes.

    Pastors and evangelical leaders literally locked arms with all faiths, including Imams, in a spiritual endeavor despite the clear biblical warnings of II Corinthians 6:14... The Mormon Church is now rejoicing over the public relations success that these undiscerning evangelical leaders have handed the Mormon Church by uniting with Glenn Beck in the two events that were promoted as spiritual.

Cameron, known also for his part on the television series Growing Pains and more recently nicknamed Banana-man (along with Ray Comfort) for the anti-evolution DVDs that became the source of tremendous internet humor, said he hadn't actually been invited to be part of Divine Destiny. But he declined anyway:

    I had heard that there were plans to put me on the list of speakers. I bought tickets... then there was a mix up... and I was cut from the list, if I had indeed been on a list... but I had some Christians who expressed concern.... and then I read your article and I... decided it would be best for me to wait and see how things play themselves out.

Howse asked if Beck's apparent view that "we all pray to the same God" isn't by definition false teaching. Cameron demurred a bit and reflected on his own conversion, explaining there was much he didn't know about essential doctrines of the faith. "I want to be careful not to jump on somebody if they're in the throes of understanding the truth of the Bible. We can't condone heresy but we need to give God the room to move in people's hearts, if that's indeed what's happening."

He concluded by saying that while he wants to wait and see if Beck's professed faith in Jesus is "real," he is "very encouraged by the movement all around the country to get back to the foundations of our country. God is using Glenn Beck."

It will be interesting to see if Beck's influence can keep the anti-Mormon criticism at bay. Moreover, what if the Mormon convert from Catholicism were to have a born-again Christian conversion—to the kind of Christianity you can bet David Barton and others are "sharing" with him and which Cameron is "praying for."

My question is what if there was no Muslims to beat up on? These people would tear each other to pieces.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2010, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: Jenne on August 22, 2010, 07:02:54 PM
...the man does have a point about having no teefs.

Thank you.  I love that.

And I love Basil, and I want him to win.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 02, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2010, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: Jenne on August 22, 2010, 07:02:54 PM
...the man does have a point about having no teefs.

Thank you.  I love that.

And I love Basil, and I want him to win.

Behold Basil before his campaign was taken over by ppl looking to make a buck on him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DzWEnwjXvc

also the face of the reporter at the end is priceless
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2010, 07:31:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst MOST AMAZING pubic speakers out there.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 02, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.

Why does everybody keep saying Obama has amazing oratory skills? Has it been that long since a decent orator has been popular? The guy is dry, lifeless, emotionless, and has terrible timing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 02, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 02, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.

Why does everybody keep saying Obama has amazing oratory skills? Has it been that long since a decent orator has been popular? The guy is dry, lifeless, emotionless, and has terrible timing.

I think they're just comparing him to the last guy...

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 02, 2010, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 02, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 02, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.

Why does everybody keep saying Obama has amazing oratory skills? Has it been that long since a decent orator has been popular? The guy is dry, lifeless, emotionless, and has terrible timing.

I think they're just comparing him to the last guy...

:lulz:

My two year old Mexican son speaks better English than the last guy.

I think you're right on this.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on September 02, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 02, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.

Why does everybody keep saying Obama has amazing oratory skills? Has it been that long since a decent orator has been popular? The guy is dry, lifeless, emotionless, and has terrible timing.

Meh. It's a matter of opinion, really. I don't think his timing is bad, nor do I find him dry and lifeless when he speaks. Emotionless, well, in my view it's more "calm and collected" than "robot apocalypse incoming", but then again, that's just my view on it.

Having reviewed a few speeches in the past, I don't think that the nation has had a decent speaker as president since Clinton, a good speaker since Reagan, a decent orator since Nixon (I have to admit, I thought he had vocal charisma, if no physical charisma), and a good orator since Kennedy. I may be biased because JFK admitted he was a donut, though. I find Obama to be somewhere between Clinton and Reagan. In my opinion, no other president between JFK and Barry O has been even as good as Clinton. So, considering what people have to work with, it's not surprising that Obama gets praised for his speaking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Some of his written and rehearsed speeches are pretty good, when he gets the "testimonial" spirit, and hits his rhythm.

It's when he's trying to explain something, or is giving an off-the-cuff answer when he starts scattering the monosyllable "...uh..." around like buckshot, and makes him sound like a doofus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 03, 2010, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 03, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Some of his written and rehearsed speeches are pretty good, when he gets the "testimonial" spirit, and hits his rhythm.

It's when he's trying to explain something, or is giving an off-the-cuff answer when he starts scattering the monosyllable "...uh..." around like buckshot, and makes him sound like a doofus.

This is why Bush was cool. Most politicians are doing the political double-speak, "say something without saying anything" crap. Bush, on the other hand, was like "actually fuck you, here's what I think/how it is." Sure, he was always wrong, and none of his ideas were actually his, but he was so sure of himself.

Yeah that's me, agreeing with the "Miss me yet?" bumper stickers.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
Wait.  You fell for that schtick?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: phoenixofdiscordia on September 02, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 02, 2010, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 02, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
I think I really like the guy,he's just one of the worst pubic speakers out there.

Of course, he wants to hold lawyers accountable to non lawyers, so he could have Obama's oratory skills and still never get elected to a city council.

Why does everybody keep saying Obama has amazing oratory skills? Has it been that long since a decent orator has been popular? The guy is dry, lifeless, emotionless, and has terrible timing.

Meh. It's a matter of opinion, really. I don't think his timing is bad, nor do I find him dry and lifeless when he speaks. Emotionless, well, in my view it's more "calm and collected" than "robot apocalypse incoming", but then again, that's just my view on it.

Having reviewed a few speeches in the past, I don't think that the nation has had a decent speaker as president since Clinton, a good speaker since Reagan, a decent orator since Nixon (I have to admit, I thought he had vocal charisma, if no physical charisma), and a good orator since Kennedy. I may be biased because JFK admitted he was a donut, though. I find Obama to be somewhere between Clinton and Reagan. In my opinion, no other president between JFK and Barry O has been even as good as Clinton. So, considering what people have to work with, it's not surprising that Obama gets praised for his speaking.

"Berliner" was also slang (at least a few decades ago) for having a big cock... So maybe JFK was just advertising to the hot german actresses ;-)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 10, 2010, 07:52:09 AM
Congratulations!
You have no life.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 10, 2010, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 03, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
Wait.  You fell for that schtick?

It was a lie, but it still satisfied my inner chimp.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2010, 01:51:35 PM
Bush and co were genuinely stupid or unconcerned with the thoughts and objections of others to draw back the 4th wall on the workings of state, however.  And for that they shall forever be cherished.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 13, 2010, 04:31:56 PM
QuoteThe National Review reported on Saturday that Gingrich said that President Obama only pretends to be "normal," that he is conning Americans and that he may have a "Kenyan, anti-colonial" worldview. "What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?" Gingrich asks. "That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/13/card-gingrich-disappointed/
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/246302/gingrich-obama-s-kenyan-anti-colonial-worldview-robert-costa

He forgot to mention his deep-seated hatred of white people, as well.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 13, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
I believe that was implied
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on September 13, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
I think someone has Beck-envy. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on September 16, 2010, 12:08:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvlKMgCkWYQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvlKMgCkWYQ)
QuoteCarl Paladino Wants To Send Unemployment & Welfare Recipients to Prison.
He is now the official Republican nominee for Governor of New York.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 16, 2010, 12:25:36 AM
Wow.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/15/christine-odonnell-craziest-quotes_n_718328.html#s140474

Quote"We took the Bible and prayer out of public schools. Now we're having weekly shootings. We had the 60s sexual revolution, and now people are dying of AIDS."
-Christine O'Donnell

:lulz: This is going to be hysterical.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 17, 2010, 01:15:42 PM
QuoteAmerica is now a socialist economy. The definition of a socialist economy is when 50% or more your economy is dependent on the federal government.
This is what tea partiers actually believe.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2010, 03:24:33 PM
god i hope they win control of congress.

pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
It's amusing when they say stuff like that, and then argue the military budget should be doubled, and more wars declared.  Because the military totally isn't a quasi-socialist society, and the Pentagon budget is paid for by faeries and leprechauns, not out of the budget.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
It's amusing when they say stuff like that, and then argue the military budget should be doubled, and more wars declared.  Because the military totally isn't a quasi-socialist society, and the Pentagon budget is paid for by faeries and leprechauns, not out of the budget.

WE HAVE TO KEEP AMMURKA SAFE! You wouldn't know anything about FIGHTING for LIBERTY, Redcoat!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on September 17, 2010, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
It's amusing when they say stuff like that, and then argue the military budget should be doubled, and more wars declared.  Because the military totally isn't a quasi-socialist society, and the Pentagon budget is paid for by faeries and leprechauns, not out of the budget.

That's  the GOOD spending America does...bad spending is all those gummament programs that the poor feed off of like gluttons.  C'mon, Cain, priorities, priorities!  And we're not supposed to talk about how the military's FUNDED.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on September 17, 2010, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 17, 2010, 03:24:33 PM
god i hope they win control of congress.

pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

Someone may have to remind you of this one day,  just saying.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on September 17, 2010, 04:38:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 17, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
It's amusing when they say stuff like that, and then argue the military budget should be doubled, and more wars declared.  Because the military totally isn't a quasi-socialist society, and the Pentagon budget is paid for by faeries and leprechauns, not out of the budget.

Did you just call all of us PATRIOTS quasi-socialist?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHY YOU LIMEY BASTARD!!!!!!!




:lulz:

The military is totally welfare, which is why you find people that have been in 10-20 years at the same low rank that hate it, but will never leave.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 17, 2010, 07:07:17 PM
I'm sure this doesn't happen here too often, so I'm posting a facebook convo with
this nutjob democrat who lives in my city.

[edit for dumbassery]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 17, 2010, 08:10:36 PM
from http://www.teapartynation.com/forum

What is Wrong with Socialism?
There remains a fundamental ideological task that must be accomplished in order to help defuse support of any Socialist takeover, and that is to persuasively answer the question: What is wrong with Socialism?

Socialism is a necessarily totalitarian ideology that seeks to synthesize the political, economic, social, and private life of individuals and to place it all in control of the state. Indeed, it is capitalism and its assumptions that make the division of political, economic, social, and private life possible.

Individual rights, and specifically, private property, free exchange, freedom of labor movement, are necessary for political and social freedom. One cannot labor freely under a system when one's economic or even personal fortunes are predicated on one's political attitudes, which in practice means support for the individuals in control of the government.

The alternative vision of capitalism is a world where freemen work competitively and/or with one another in the absence of state, societal, or personal coercion to build better goods and provide better services for their fellow men. It is a world where each person owns his own life and decides what he or she will do with it, given that he does not coerce others or obstruct others from doing the same.

This does not mean a world of absolute freedom, which is impossible; it means a world where people may choose whether or not to take personal responsibility for their lives, suffer the consequences, learn, and adapt; this brings out the best in men, and ultimately, leads to a great civilization led by great men. The civilization is not driven fundamentally by the political class, but also by those who comprise the economy, and the society.

There is a utopian core of socialism that holds that desirable ends can be accomplished by undesirable or morally reprehensible means. Indeed, morality itself is disfigured in the socialist utopian worldview, where evil becomes good, destruction leads to creation, and coercion leads to freedom.

But it has never been satisfactorily answered: How is it possible to use coercion to propel mankind to a world free of coercion? How can one expect a socialist world of selfless contribution to Society and the State, when socialism itself attracts those intellectuals and workers who themselves seek at all costs to avoid personal responsibility?

In other words, wouldn't a world run by socialists itself be comprised of people seeking to avoid personal responsibility, and if so, wouldn't this lead to declining personal contributions towards production? And if so, wouldn't this itself elicit the coercion socialism is said to be designed to rid the world of? Indeed, wouldn't a socialist world wind up being infinitely more coercive, not less?

We find that Socialism itself is an inherently destructive ideology without any redeeming value of being able to express specifically how mankind can transform Society into a morally, economically, or politically superior system of human affairs. Instead we find Socialism to be a rationalization of a deep-seated hatred for Self-interest.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 17, 2010, 08:17:35 PM
from http://townhall.com/columnists/ArmstrongWilliams/2010/09/14/the_endless_wars_of_islam/page/1 ---

Of the roughly 25 wars currently ongoing, 21 involve Muslim countries. Put differently, Islam is connected to 80% of the planet's armed conflicts, while making up only 20% of its population. There's a reason for that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on September 17, 2010, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 17, 2010, 08:17:35 PM
from http://townhall.com/columnists/ArmstrongWilliams/2010/09/14/the_endless_wars_of_islam/page/1 ---

Of the roughly 25 wars currently ongoing, 21 involve Muslim countries. Put differently, Islam is connected to 80% of the planet's armed conflicts, while making up only 20% of its population. There's a reason for that.
Crazy white people fucking shit up?
Crazy people are crazy?
Jesus mind lazorz?
Cthullu?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on September 17, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Obviously, it's because they hate our freedoms THESE CANS!!!!!11!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NxLtVG9_eg
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 17, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
Armstrong Williams.   :lulz:

It's amazing that he even shows his face after getting caught taking federal money to pimp out NCLB.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 17, 2010, 10:22:59 PM
shit, bad editing is bad editing.

ignore that last guys' name.  I know him IRL and he's a complete dickhole.

If he was running down the street on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put him out.


:|

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 17, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
Armstrong Williams.   :lulz:

It's amazing that he even shows his face after getting caught taking federal money to pimp out NCLB.

I think Ollie North sometimes writes for Townhall as well.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 12:21:49 AM
(http://www.bartcop.com/co-creationism.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 12:21:49 AM
(http://www.bartcop.com/co-creationism.jpg)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: the last yatto on October 02, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
hxxp://www.xaviercromartie.com/
And now, I will utilize libertarian logic in order to put everything together and make a horrific prediction for the future:


6 November 2012: Barack Obama will not be content to give up his power. On the grounds of "the need for continuity of government during this financial crisis (viz., hyperinflation)," Obama will enact a Rex 84-like contingency plan. Citing the Holder ruling, Obama will unilaterally declare lewrockwell.com, antiwar.com, mises.org, wikileaks.org, et al. to be terrorist websites. Perhaps the Rothbardians' attempts to end the Federal Reserve will be considered "directly participating in attacks on the United States," and so Rockwell, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Justin Raimondo, et al. will be targeted for assassination. More likely, though, the feds will raid their homes, arrest them, and seize their laptops, cell phones, guns, money, and anything else of use. Since terrorists do not qualify as "persons," the Rockwell gang will be tortured and detained indefinitely for openly opposing the state and its wars. The interrogators will demand information regarding "the material support of terrorism"—a list of everyone who donated to keep these websites operating. These people will be sought and detained indefinitely as well. Thus, Obama will have successfully emulated his hero Abraham Lincoln's dictatorial censorship of dissent. Instead of using force to "save" the Union from secessionists, Obama will use force to "save" the United States from "terrorists."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2010, 08:23:15 PM
It is kinda hilarious he thinks he and his friends merit that kind of personal attention from Obama.

On the other hand, it's not like the Feds didn't just raid a bunch of antiwar activists on the basis of them being "complicit in terrorism" just the other week.  And the Feds can and frequently do act entirely of their own accord...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on October 02, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 02, 2010, 08:23:15 PM
It is kinda hilarious he thinks he and his friends merit that kind of personal attention from Obama.

On the other hand, it's not like the Feds didn't just raid a bunch of antiwar activists on the basis of them being "complicit in terrorism" just the other week.  And the Feds can and frequently do act entirely of their own accord...


Whaaaaat?

Link?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2010, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on October 02, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 02, 2010, 08:23:15 PM
It is kinda hilarious he thinks he and his friends merit that kind of personal attention from Obama.

On the other hand, it's not like the Feds didn't just raid a bunch of antiwar activists on the basis of them being "complicit in terrorism" just the other week.  And the Feds can and frequently do act entirely of their own accord...


Whaaaaat?

Link?

http://washingtonindependent.com/98646/anti-war-activists-homes-searched-in-terrorism-raid

QuoteThe Associated Press is reporting that the FBI is searching the homes of anti-war activists during terrorism raids:

    The home of Minneapolis anti-war activists Mick Kelly and Jess Sundin were among those searched, they told the AP.

    "The FBI is harassing anti-war organizers and leaders, folks who opposed U.S. intervention in the Middle East and Latin America," Kelly said before agents confiscated his cell phone.

    Sundin called the suggestion they were connected with terrorism "pretty hilarious and ridiculous."

Sundin was "a principal leader of the mass antiwar march of 10,000 on the opening day of the Republican National Convention two years ago," and Kelly has said he would march on the Democratic National Convention if it were held in Minneapolis this year, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

As I wrote earlier this week, fusion centers have a habit of targeting domestic activist groups as terrorist organizations. During the 2008 protests against the RNC in St. Paul, a Minnesota fusion center played a role in coordinating law enforcement's response to activists, for instance. The FBI is being tight-lipped about why it conducted the raids and what it was looking for, but it doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to guess that information gathered in 2008 could have some connection to today's action.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on October 02, 2010, 09:38:13 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 08, 2010, 02:56:02 AM
QuotePersonal attacks generally don't work unless they're seen as fair, credible and pertinent. Voters must think the character shortcomings are both persistent and relevant. If not, the assaults will fail, even backfire.

The Democrats' reliance on this strategy may rescue a few otherwise lost campaigns. But it will further besmirch the reputations of the Democratic Party and its leader, Mr. Obama. The man who complained on the night of his election about the "pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long" is complicit as candidate after candidate in his party adds arsenic to the nation's political well.

Said by... Karl Rove (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735804575535701710358606.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Jesus fucking christ.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 18, 2011, 09:08:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqdQY-4nxlI
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 19, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:

Im still not sure if Jack Chick is trolling or not.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 19, 2011, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on January 19, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:

Im still not sure if Jack Chick is trolling or not.

Aside from the cognitive dissonance, it also means that the Sumerians were right, since they're going with the appeal to (older) authority fallacy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on January 19, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on January 19, 2011, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on January 19, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:

Im still not sure if Jack Chick is trolling or not.

Aside from the cognitive dissonance, it also means that the Sumerians were right, since they're going with the appeal to (older) authority fallacy.
No, because in the Jack Chick version of history, Christianity was first because it started with Adam.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on January 19, 2011, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on January 19, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on January 19, 2011, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on January 19, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:

Im still not sure if Jack Chick is trolling or not.

Aside from the cognitive dissonance, it also means that the Sumerians were right, since they're going with the appeal to (older) authority fallacy.
No, because in the Jack Chick version of history, Christianity was first because it started with Adam.

Wouldnt Judaism be first?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 19, 2011, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on January 19, 2011, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on January 19, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on January 19, 2011, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on January 19, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Quote from: Remington on January 18, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp (http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/fallacies.asp)
Quote
Christians must be prepared to answer the typical objections made against the Gospel. Most of the objections are based on simple logical fallacies. The following is a list of some of the most common fallacies used by Muslims.



1. The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

Since Islam came along many centuries after Christianity, Islam has the burden of proof and not Christianity. The Bible tests and judges the Qur'an. When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority. The Qur'an is in error until it proves itself.


2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing.

   If you end where you began, you got nowhere.
Examples:
#1 Proving Allah by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Allah.
#2 Proving Muhammad by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Muhammad.
#3 Proving Islam by the Qur'an and then proving the Qur'an by Islam.

[moar]


The cognitive dissonance is amazing  :lulz:

Im still not sure if Jack Chick is trolling or not.

Aside from the cognitive dissonance, it also means that the Sumerians were right, since they're going with the appeal to (older) authority fallacy.
No, because in the Jack Chick version of history, Christianity was first because it started with Adam.

Wouldnt Judaism be first?

No way! Jesus obviously came first!  :lulz:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/sherri-shepherd-doesnt-ge_n_75292.html
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on January 22, 2011, 05:14:00 AM
Ah, Jack Chick.  I used to have a lot of those tracts.  They were sorta fascinating to me as a kid.  They were somehow a bit dirty to me like cartoon porn for Xtians.  *shrug*

Yeah, anything from Jack Chick is just so extremist and patent bullshit--I rarely found anyone in my church who took them seriously.  And we were pretty much really for real Christians, etc.  The most seriously I saw them taken was for this seminar I took on how to proselytize.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on February 07, 2011, 07:33:08 PM
Victoria Jackson on Hannity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF_JdL0iIQw

All this time, I thought that dingbat character she played on SNL was just an act.  I watched the linked video for almost a minute before I realized she wasn't in character but was actually serious.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 07, 2011, 07:44:51 PM
I'm convinced that Hannity books half of his guests purely because they are so wacky and out there they make him look and sound normal.  I'm thinking particularly of that usual guest of his, Brigitte something or other, who foams at the mouth when it comes to talking about Muslims and Islam. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: Pastor Miskatonic Zappathruster on February 07, 2011, 07:33:08 PM
Victoria Jackson on Hannity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF_JdL0iIQw

All this time, I thought that dingbat character she played on SNL was just an act.  I watched the linked video for almost a minute before I realized she wasn't in character but was actually serious.

Interesting correlation:  At the moment an entertainer becomes right wing, or even does an act for right-wingers, their career abruptly ends.

Randy Travis
Hank Williams Jr
Cedric the Entertainer
Kid Rock
Dennis Miller
Meatloaf
Victoria Jackson
Ricky Martin
Charley Daniels

There's plenty more examples, but you get the point.  The effect is instantaneous and irreversible.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Well, I guess that is one more thing to cross off the list of things Meatloaf won't do for love. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Well, I guess that is one more thing to cross off the list of things Meatloaf won't do for love. 

What, salvage his career?   :lulz:  He made a CAREER out of salvaging his career.  Then he exploded all teabagger-style, and now you can stick a fork in him, because he's done.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Adios on February 07, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Well, I guess that is one more thing to cross off the list of things Meatloaf won't do for love. 

What, salvage his career?   :lulz:  He made a CAREER out of salvaging his career.  Then he exploded all teabagger-style, and now you can stick a fork in him, because he's done.

4 of those names made me break 6 cd's.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 07, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Well, I guess that is one more thing to cross off the list of things Meatloaf won't do for love. 

What, salvage his career?   :lulz:  He made a CAREER out of salvaging his career.  Then he exploded all teabagger-style, and now you can stick a fork in him, because he's done.

4 of those names made me break 6 cd's.

Yeah, I kinda let my Hank Jr CDs slide to the bottom of the stack.  He had his dad's songwriting talent, but not his attitude, and then he wussed out and dropped his brain down the back of his pants.

I have no use for him.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 07, 2011, 08:32:58 PM
I'd add The Nuge to that list but he honestly hasn't done anything relevant since Cat Scratch Fever.  Unless you count that stint he did in the Hair Band super group, Damn Yankees.  But that's a stretch.  
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:32:58 PM
I'd add The Nuge to that list but he honestly hasn't done anything relevant since Cat Scratch Fever.  Unless you count that stint he did in the Hair Band super group, Damn Yankees.  But that's a stretch.  

Nuge was the first example of this law.  I can't understand why I didn't include him.  He's the classic example.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on February 08, 2011, 04:02:38 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:28:22 PM
Well, I guess that is one more thing to cross off the list of things Meatloaf won't do for love. 
:lulz:
:cry:
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4)
:x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on February 08, 2011, 04:35:15 AM
Quote from: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4)
:x

:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:48:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 08, 2011, 04:35:15 AM
Quote from: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4)
:x

:facepalm:
It's like they're trying to fail at as many scientific and mathematic disciplines at once  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Xooxe on February 08, 2011, 07:47:38 AM
I'm afraid I zoned out and started thinking about homeopathic bioterrorism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on February 08, 2011, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:48:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 08, 2011, 04:35:15 AM
Quote from: Remington on February 08, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BwJ1xMef4)
:x

:facepalm:
It's like they're trying to fail at as many scientific and mathematic disciplines at once  :horrormirth:

I stopped listening some time around when she started saying that m didn't factor in to e=mc2. Yeah....  :|
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on February 08, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:32:58 PM
I'd add The Nuge to that list but he honestly hasn't done anything relevant since Cat Scratch Fever.  Unless you count that stint he did in the Hair Band super group, Damn Yankees.  But that's a stretch. 

Nuge was the first example of this law.  I can't understand why I didn't include him.  He's the classic example.



Hes got a hunting show now. If that counts as a career.

Hes also a big black man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_i4Y4WdT1k
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: hooplala on February 08, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
Wow, I had no idea Victoria Jackson's stupid act was real.


I am still really broken up about Moe Tucker from the Velvet Underground though... I guess I should have seen it coming when she was band leader on Into The Night With Enrico And Friends.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2011, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 08, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
Wow, I had no idea Victoria Jackson's stupid act was real.


Freeky and I listened to that last night, helpless with laughter.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Sister Fracture on February 08, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2011, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 08, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
Wow, I had no idea Victoria Jackson's stupid act was real.


Freeky and I listened to that last night, helpless with laughter.   :lulz:

IT.

WAS.

AMAZING.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on February 09, 2011, 02:30:14 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 08, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 07, 2011, 08:32:58 PM
I'd add The Nuge to that list but he honestly hasn't done anything relevant since Cat Scratch Fever.  Unless you count that stint he did in the Hair Band super group, Damn Yankees.  But that's a stretch. 

Nuge was the first example of this law.  I can't understand why I didn't include him.  He's the classic example.



Hes got a hunting show now. If that counts as a career.

Hes also a big black man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_i4Y4WdT1k
:lmnuendo:
Also:
:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 18, 2011, 08:29:09 PM
Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Quote"Leadership starts in the homes in the communities, in businesses, in churches," he said. "I've lived in a community and I know where the leaders are and it's not in Washington. And this pretense that he's our nation's leader... I'm not just talking about Obama, I'm talking about any President."

So, he's not a leader, no President is...  But, in the same speech:

Quote"It's pretty clear this President is not going to lead," he said. "We've got to replace this President."

:?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on February 18, 2011, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 18, 2011, 08:29:09 PM
Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Quote"Leadership starts in the homes in the communities, in businesses, in churches," he said. "I've lived in a community and I know where the leaders are and it's not in Washington. And this pretense that he's our nation's leader... I'm not just talking about Obama, I'm talking about any President."

So, he's not a leader, no President is...  But, in the same speech:

Quote"It's pretty clear this President is not going to lead," he said. "We've got to replace this President."

:?

Dumb man confused by big words he doesn't understand.

Also, classic grandstanding.  What's interesting is how these talking points that get recycled by the Repub-bots all over the news shows mimic these idiocies over and over, not realizing how awful they sound/look.

I just sit back and wait for the repetitive montage of bullshit that Jon Stewart's gang inevitably puts together.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 18, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jenne on February 18, 2011, 09:00:04 PM
Dumb man confused by big words he doesn't understand.

Yep, confusing word, leader...

I swear, I don't understand how these nutjobs are getting elected.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on February 18, 2011, 09:23:52 PM
This whole fucking article is gold. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/16/mike-beard-natural-resources-god_n_824312.html)
QuoteMike Beard, a Republican state representative from Minnesota, recently argued that coal mining should resume in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, in part because he believes God has created an earth that will provide unlimited natural resources.

"God is not capricious. He's given us a creation that is dynamically stable," Beard told MinnPost. "We are not going to run out of anything."

Beard is currently in the midst of drafting legislation that would overturn Minnesota's moratorium on coal-fired power plants, an effort that he backs due to his religious belief that God will provide limitless resources while ensuring that humans don't destroy the planet trying to get them.

Drawing on his family's childhood property in Pennsylvania, Beard explained to MinnPost his belief that while resource extraction might cause temporary agitation to the landscape, the effects wouldn't be longterm.

"Our farm was mined for coal three times," Beard said. "And, now we stand on a point and look over barley and wheat and pines. Did we temporarily disrupt the face of the earth? Yes, but when we were done, we put it all back together again."

This observation appears to be indicative of Beard's larger religious belief that God acts as the tireless custodian of the planet.

"It is the height of hubris to think we could [destroy the earth]," Beard told MinnPost, before saying that even devastating nuclear events shouldn't cast doubt on his theory that the earth can always be repaired.
It's people like him who are the reason I almost can't wait until the end.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 18, 2011, 09:27:20 PM
Dipshit has family from Pennsylvania, draws experience from them, and doesn't know about Centralia?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 18, 2011, 09:36:53 PM
FFS, there is a difference between the earth being repaired and the earth being repaired after 99.9% of the people on it die.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Kai on February 20, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on February 18, 2011, 09:23:52 PM
This whole fucking article is gold. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/16/mike-beard-natural-resources-god_n_824312.html)
QuoteMike Beard, a Republican state representative from Minnesota, recently argued that coal mining should resume in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, in part because he believes God has created an earth that will provide unlimited natural resources.

"God is not capricious. He's given us a creation that is dynamically stable," Beard told MinnPost. "We are not going to run out of anything."

Beard is currently in the midst of drafting legislation that would overturn Minnesota's moratorium on coal-fired power plants, an effort that he backs due to his religious belief that God will provide limitless resources while ensuring that humans don't destroy the planet trying to get them.

Drawing on his family's childhood property in Pennsylvania, Beard explained to MinnPost his belief that while resource extraction might cause temporary agitation to the landscape, the effects wouldn't be longterm.

"Our farm was mined for coal three times," Beard said. "And, now we stand on a point and look over barley and wheat and pines. Did we temporarily disrupt the face of the earth? Yes, but when we were done, we put it all back together again."

This observation appears to be indicative of Beard's larger religious belief that God acts as the tireless custodian of the planet.

"It is the height of hubris to think we could [destroy the earth]," Beard told MinnPost, before saying that even devastating nuclear events shouldn't cast doubt on his theory that the earth can always be repaired.
It's people like him who are the reason I almost can't wait until the end.

This isn't right, it's not even wrong!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on February 20, 2011, 02:41:17 AM
My property was mined for coal three times.  Each time there was more coal than the last, and the ground gets more fertile every time we mine it. The last time we mined it, we also found brand new veins of gold, emeralds, mithril, and chocolate.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on February 20, 2011, 10:08:19 PM
Quote from: ϗ on February 20, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on February 18, 2011, 09:23:52 PM
This whole fucking article is gold. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/16/mike-beard-natural-resources-god_n_824312.html)
QuoteMike Beard, a Republican state representative from Minnesota, recently argued that coal mining should resume in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, in part because he believes God has created an earth that will provide unlimited natural resources.

"God is not capricious. He's given us a creation that is dynamically stable," Beard told MinnPost. "We are not going to run out of anything."

Beard is currently in the midst of drafting legislation that would overturn Minnesota's moratorium on coal-fired power plants, an effort that he backs due to his religious belief that God will provide limitless resources while ensuring that humans don't destroy the planet trying to get them.

Drawing on his family's childhood property in Pennsylvania, Beard explained to MinnPost his belief that while resource extraction might cause temporary agitation to the landscape, the effects wouldn't be longterm.

"Our farm was mined for coal three times," Beard said. "And, now we stand on a point and look over barley and wheat and pines. Did we temporarily disrupt the face of the earth? Yes, but when we were done, we put it all back together again."

This observation appears to be indicative of Beard's larger religious belief that God acts as the tireless custodian of the planet.

"It is the height of hubris to think we could [destroy the earth]," Beard told MinnPost, before saying that even devastating nuclear events shouldn't cast doubt on his theory that the earth can always be repaired.
It's people like him who are the reason I almost can't wait until the end.

This isn't right, it's not even wrong!

By his logic shouldnt God have poofed a few more Dodo birds into existence by now?

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 20, 2011, 11:02:05 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 20, 2011, 10:08:19 PM
By his logic shouldnt God have poofed a few more Dodo birds into existence by now?

No. the dodo birds were doing teh gay marriage, so they reaped what they sowed....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2011, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: Pastor Miskatonic Zappathruster on February 20, 2011, 02:41:17 AM
My property was mined for coal three times.  Each time there was more coal than the last, and the ground gets more fertile every time we mine it. The last time we mined it, we also found brand new veins of gold, emeralds, mithril, and chocolate.

:lulz::potd: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Aucoq on February 21, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2011, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: Pastor Miskatonic Zappathruster on February 20, 2011, 02:41:17 AM
My property was mined for coal three times.  Each time there was more coal than the last, and the ground gets more fertile every time we mine it. The last time we mined it, we also found brand new veins of gold, emeralds, mithril, and chocolate.

:lulz::potd: :lulz:

I second this.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2011, 01:36:35 AM
http://minnesotaindependent.com/77966/bachmann-glenn-beck-can-solve-the-budget-deficit

Bachmann: Glenn Beck can solve the budget deficit

Republican says tax code is a 'weapon of mass destruction'
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Rep. Michele Bachmann was on a tear: In one of her most fiery stump speeches to date, the tea party leader told a South Carolina audience that the tax code was a �weapon of mass destruction,� that President Obama is �babying� terrorists, that the rich pay too much in taxes, that social issues like marriage and abortion cannot be put on the �back burner,� and that Fox News� Glenn Beck can solve America�s budget deficit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Suu on February 23, 2011, 03:09:10 AM
Will someone rape and impregnate that cunt already?
Title: Limbaugh "Michelle Obama is a big ol' fatty"
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
Oh the hilarity

http://www.newser.com/story/112575/rush-limbaugh-michelle-obama-is-a-big-fat-hypocrite.html

Quote"I'm trying to say that our first lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you."
Title: Re: Limbaugh "Michelle Obama is a big ol' fatty"
Post by: Luna on February 23, 2011, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
Oh the hilarity

http://www.newser.com/story/112575/rush-limbaugh-michelle-obama-is-a-big-fat-hypocrite.html

Quote"I'm trying to say that our first lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you."

Hypocrite hippo hones hypocrisy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 23, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
Well, he is right.  I mean, how many black models have you seen on the cover of the SI Swimsuit issue?  I don't recall too many myself. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 23, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
Just Beyonce and Tyra, as far as I know.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 23, 2011, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
Well, he is right.  I mean, how many black models have you seen on the cover of the SI Swimsuit issue?  I don't recall too many myself. 

IIRC, Tyra Banks and Beyonce, to date.

But, hey, be fair.  It's not JUST that Rush is a racist.  (He's documented that himself, often enough.)  http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/ (http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/)  I'm SURE he'd be that loudmouthed and brutal to ANYBODY in the White House.  After all, he said all kinds of rotten things about Laura Bush, right?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2011, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 23, 2011, 01:55:21 PM
Just Beyonce and Tyra, as far as I know.

That's because Tyra killed 2 editors.  The 3rd one agreed.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 23, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
In those days, it was probably a rather pleasant death.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 23, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 23, 2011, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
Well, he is right.  I mean, how many black models have you seen on the cover of the SI Swimsuit issue?  I don't recall too many myself. 

IIRC, Tyra Banks and Beyonce, to date.

But, hey, be fair.  It's not JUST that Rush is a racist.  (He's documented that himself, often enough.)  http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/ (http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/)  I'm SURE he'd be that loudmouthed and brutal to ANYBODY in the White House.  After all, he said all kinds of rotten things about Laura Bush, right?

If badmouthing Laura Bush got him mad ratings I'm sure he would.  As it turns out, I don't think the ditto-heads care too much about Laura Bush one way or the other.  I'm sure they probably see her as one of those awful moderates, because she's said nice things about the Obamas. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 23, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 23, 2011, 01:56:14 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
Well, he is right.  I mean, how many black models have you seen on the cover of the SI Swimsuit issue?  I don't recall too many myself. 

IIRC, Tyra Banks and Beyonce, to date.

But, hey, be fair.  It's not JUST that Rush is a racist.  (He's documented that himself, often enough.)  http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/ (http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/)  I'm SURE he'd be that loudmouthed and brutal to ANYBODY in the White House.  After all, he said all kinds of rotten things about Laura Bush, right?

If badmouthing Laura Bush got him mad ratings I'm sure he would.  As it turns out, I don't think the ditto-heads care too much about Laura Bush one way or the other.  I'm sure they probably see her as one of those awful moderates, because she's said nice things about the Obamas. 

He'd badmouth his own mother for ratings. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on February 25, 2011, 01:13:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
Oh the hilarity

http://www.newser.com/story/112575/rush-limbaugh-michelle-obama-is-a-big-fat-hypocrite.html

Quote"I'm trying to say that our first lady does not project the image of women that you might see on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue or of a woman Alex Rodriguez might date every six months or what have you."
If she was, he'd accuse her of being a floozy and making the US look bad.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 26, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Alan Keyes, three-time GoP candidate for president, stated on the WorldNutDaily website that "granting homosexuals the right to marry is like granting plantation owners the right to own slaves."

I shit you not.  I waded through birther central to verify.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=267813
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 26, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 26, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Alan Keyes, three-time GoP candidate for president, stated on the WorldNutDaily website that "granting homosexuals the right to marry is like granting plantation owners the right to own slaves."

I shit you not.  I waded through birther central to verify.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=267813

I like this quote: 
QuoteGovernment doesn't endow people with the ability to procreate the species. The Creator takes care of that. Like all unalienable rights, those associated with the natural family exist in consequence of this endowment. A couple that cannot, by nature, procreate has no claim to those rights.

I wonder if he realizes that what he just uttered would also, technically, apply to a straight couple where one or both of them cannot conceive or contribute to a conception. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 26, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 26, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 26, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Alan Keyes, three-time GoP candidate for president, stated on the WorldNutDaily website that "granting homosexuals the right to marry is like granting plantation owners the right to own slaves."

I shit you not.  I waded through birther central to verify.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=267813

I like this quote: 
QuoteGovernment doesn't endow people with the ability to procreate the species. The Creator takes care of that. Like all unalienable rights, those associated with the natural family exist in consequence of this endowment. A couple that cannot, by nature, procreate has no claim to those rights.

I wonder if he realizes that what he just uttered would also, technically, apply to a straight couple where one or both of them cannot conceive or contribute to a conception. 

My usual response to that line of argument is, "My mom's talking about remarrying.  I assure you, she will not be bearing any more children.  YOU want to tell her she can't?  Go ahead.  I'll watch.  From a safe distance.  With popcorn."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2011, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 26, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Alan Keyes, three-time GoP candidate for president, stated on the WorldNutDaily website that "granting homosexuals the right to marry is like granting plantation owners the right to own slaves."

I shit you not.  I waded through birther central to verify.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=267813

Wat

Even for Keyes, that's nutty.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on February 27, 2011, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 26, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 26, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Alan Keyes, three-time GoP candidate for president, stated on the WorldNutDaily website that "granting homosexuals the right to marry is like granting plantation owners the right to own slaves."

I shit you not.  I waded through birther central to verify.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=267813

I like this quote: 
QuoteGovernment doesn't endow people with the ability to procreate the species. The Creator takes care of that. Like all unalienable rights, those associated with the natural family exist in consequence of this endowment. A couple that cannot, by nature, procreate has no claim to those rights.

I wonder if he realizes that what he just uttered would also, technically, apply to a straight couple where one or both of them cannot conceive or contribute to a conception. 
I think that's what he meant by the "by nature" part, his way of trying to make that statement not apply to infertile straight couples.   :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 27, 2011, 04:02:01 PM
Except that infertility is quite natural. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 11, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
QuoteSharon Omand, a community health care center manager and resident of Stafford, New Hampshire, called her state senator Martin Harty (R) recently to request more funding for community mental health programs and for the homeless. Omand was shocked by Harty's response. The state senator told her "the world is too populated" and that there are too many "defective people." When Omand asked what should be done with these "defective people" that are mentally ill, Harty suggested sending them to Siberia, something that he said Hitler was "right" to do

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/11/gop-senator-siberia/

Fuck.  And this is the sort of person elected to be in charge of shit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Hitler and Stalin:  The same guy.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 11, 2011, 04:53:19 PM
What's sad is that he probably thought he was being a great leader and chummy with this lady.  Instead he comes off, well, as he comes off, and is yet another testament to the lousy job we do of educating people in the US.  Motherfucker.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 13, 2011, 04:13:29 PM
 
QuoteMANCHESTER, N.H.: Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann's suggestion Saturday that the Revolutionary War began in Concord, N.H., rather than Lexington and Concord, Mass., marks the third time in recent months that the potential GOP presidential hopeful has committed a puzzling gaffe about history and current affairs. Making her first trek to New Hampshire as a 2012 prospect, Bachmann told a GOP crowd in Manchester: "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world at Lexington and Concord."

The Revolutionary War began, not in New Hampshire's capital, but in the famous two towns more than 50 miles away in Massachusetts. For Bachmann, who leads the House Tea Party caucus and champions a return to the Constitution, to get such basic facts wrong about the country's birth is revealing. Her comment wasn't just an off-hand reference that she inserted in her remarks. At a fundraiser Friday night on the New Hampshire Seacoast, Bachmann said almost the exact same thing, according to the Minnesota Post.

"It's your state that fired the shot that was heard around the world, you are the state of Lexington and Concord, you started the battle for liberty right here in your backyard," Bachmann said. Bachmann's geographic mix-up prompted derision among some New Hampshire Republicans. "Is she on her way to Lexington, N.H., now?" cracked Matt Suermann, who blogs for RedHampshire, in response to somebody who posted on Twitter that Bachmann had left the building.

Told of the congresswoman's line, another prominent New Hampshire Republican asked: "Seriously, the real question is whether she knows she (got it wrong), I suspect not."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51179.html#ixzz1GTF0ydlb

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 13, 2011, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 13, 2011, 04:13:29 PM
QuoteMANCHESTER, N.H.: Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann's suggestion Saturday that the Revolutionary War began in Concord, N.H., rather than Lexington and Concord, Mass., marks the third time in recent months that the potential GOP presidential hopeful has committed a puzzling gaffe about history and current affairs. Making her first trek to New Hampshire as a 2012 prospect, Bachmann told a GOP crowd in Manchester: "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world at Lexington and Concord."

The Revolutionary War began, not in New Hampshire's capital, but in the famous two towns more than 50 miles away in Massachusetts. For Bachmann, who leads the House Tea Party caucus and champions a return to the Constitution, to get such basic facts wrong about the country's birth is revealing. Her comment wasn't just an off-hand reference that she inserted in her remarks. At a fundraiser Friday night on the New Hampshire Seacoast, Bachmann said almost the exact same thing, according to the Minnesota Post.

"It's your state that fired the shot that was heard around the world, you are the state of Lexington and Concord, you started the battle for liberty right here in your backyard," Bachmann said. Bachmann's geographic mix-up prompted derision among some New Hampshire Republicans. "Is she on her way to Lexington, N.H., now?" cracked Matt Suermann, who blogs for RedHampshire, in response to somebody who posted on Twitter that Bachmann had left the building.

Told of the congresswoman's line, another prominent New Hampshire Republican asked: "Seriously, the real question is whether she knows she (got it wrong), I suspect not."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51179.html#ixzz1GTF0ydlb

:lulz:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on March 13, 2011, 06:25:34 PM
Oh my god :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 15, 2011, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
QuoteSharon Omand, a community health care center manager and resident of Stafford, New Hampshire, called her state senator Martin Harty (R) recently to request more funding for community mental health programs and for the homeless. Omand was shocked by Harty's response. The state senator told her "the world is too populated" and that there are too many "defective people." When Omand asked what should be done with these "defective people" that are mentally ill, Harty suggested sending them to Siberia, something that he said Hitler was "right" to do

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/11/gop-senator-siberia/

Fuck.  And this is the sort of person elected to be in charge of shit.

Update.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14/martin-harty-resigns-in-w_n_835671.html

Harty has resigned his office. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 16, 2011, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 15, 2011, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 11, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
QuoteSharon Omand, a community health care center manager and resident of Stafford, New Hampshire, called her state senator Martin Harty (R) recently to request more funding for community mental health programs and for the homeless. Omand was shocked by Harty’s response. The state senator told her “the world is too populated” and that there are too many “defective people.” When Omand asked what should be done with these “defective people” that are mentally ill, Harty suggested sending them to Siberia, something that he said Hitler was “right” to do

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/11/gop-senator-siberia/

Fuck.  And this is the sort of person elected to be in charge of shit.

Update.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14/martin-harty-resigns-in-w_n_835671.html

Harty has resigned his office. 

Haha--from the article:

QuoteA 91-year-old freshman lawmaker who suggested the mentally disabled should be shipped to Siberia resigned Monday from the state House and said he was sorry that his "big mouth caused this furor."


:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 17, 2011, 09:39:19 AM
QuoteRick Santorum told about 50 members of the group Catholic Citizenship that he was "frankly appalled" that America's first Catholic president, John F. Kennedy, once said "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute."

"That was a radical statement," Santorum said, and did "great damage."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/santorum-kennedy-was-radical-for-believing-in-church-vs-state.php

Erm...  Yeah.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 17, 2011, 01:43:09 PM
No, this is a radical statement that did great damage...TO MY EYEBALLS

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/446509770_6847304d51.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 17, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 17, 2011, 01:43:09 PM
No, this is a radical statement that did great damage...TO MY EYEBALLS

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/446509770_6847304d51.jpg?v=0)
Awesome. TO THE MAX!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 17, 2011, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 09:39:19 AM
QuoteRick Santorum told about 50 members of the group Catholic Citizenship that he was "frankly appalled" that America's first Catholic president, John F. Kennedy, once said "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute."

"That was a radical statement," Santorum said, and did "great damage."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/santorum-kennedy-was-radical-for-believing-in-church-vs-state.php

Erm...  Yeah.
Also, speaking as a former Catholic: BWAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHA, HA HA Ha heh - *wipes tear* AHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on March 17, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
Are Americans just that ignorant of history at this point?

Jefferson spinning in his grave because JFK promoted the separation of church and state?
:argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on March 17, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 17, 2011, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 09:39:19 AM
QuoteRick Santorum told about 50 members of the group Catholic Citizenship that he was "frankly appalled" that America's first Catholic president, John F. Kennedy, once said "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute."

"That was a radical statement," Santorum said, and did "great damage."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/santorum-kennedy-was-radical-for-believing-in-church-vs-state.php

Erm...  Yeah.
Also, speaking as a former Catholic: BWAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHA, HA HA Ha heh - *wipes tear* AHAHAHAHAHA!
I know, right? :lulz:

Quote from: Ratatosk on March 17, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
Are Americans just that ignorant of history at this point?
Yes. They really fucking are.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 17, 2011, 03:41:18 PM
The system is geared to keep 'em stupid.

Sheep are easier to control than actual, real people.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 17, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
QuoteSee Mr. Speaker, every one of us has the right to life, born and unborn. And it is the women who have the responsibility to make sure that that baby is born. Unfortunately, our courts — over 33 years ago — decided to change that and said that women had the right to end that life. But Mr. Speaker, we don't have that right. It is our responsibility to bear those children.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201103160006

Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH).  Funny, somehow I failed to read the instructions on my uterus stating that it HAD to be used...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 17, 2011, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
QuoteSee Mr. Speaker, every one of us has the right to life, born and unborn. And it is the women who have the responsibility to make sure that that baby is born. Unfortunately, our courts — over 33 years ago — decided to change that and said that women had the right to end that life. But Mr. Speaker, we don't have that right. It is our responsibility to bear those children.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201103160006

Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH).  Funny, somehow I failed to read the instructions on my uterus stating that it HAD to be used...
What. No. Seriously. What.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 17, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 17, 2011, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
QuoteSee Mr. Speaker, every one of us has the right to life, born and unborn. And it is the women who have the responsibility to make sure that that baby is born. Unfortunately, our courts — over 33 years ago — decided to change that and said that women had the right to end that life. But Mr. Speaker, we don't have that right. It is our responsibility to bear those children.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201103160006

Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH).  Funny, somehow I failed to read the instructions on my uterus stating that it HAD to be used...
What. No. Seriously. What.

Actually, what she apparently meant is the party line of, "you got knocked up, you dirty girl, therefore you MUST bear the child, and, hey, it's up to the rest of the women to make SURE you do."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 17, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on March 17, 2011, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 17, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
QuoteSee Mr. Speaker, every one of us has the right to life, born and unborn. And it is the women who have the responsibility to make sure that that baby is born. Unfortunately, our courts — over 33 years ago — decided to change that and said that women had the right to end that life. But Mr. Speaker, we don't have that right. It is our responsibility to bear those children.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201103160006

Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH).  Funny, somehow I failed to read the instructions on my uterus stating that it HAD to be used...
What. No. Seriously. What.

Actually, what she apparently meant is the party line of, "you got knocked up, you dirty girl, therefore you MUST bear the child, and, hey, it's up to the rest of the women to make SURE you do."
That makes me only slightly less this (http://www.hiryuufansubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/RageFace.jpg).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 17, 2011, 06:19:06 PM
Yeah, agreed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 17, 2011, 06:26:48 PM
Oh I find it hilarious that Teabaggers are on a quest to build up Reagan's Legend Cred and tear down JFK's.  :lulz:  Let the death match begin!  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on March 18, 2011, 02:19:24 AM
(http://ih1.redbubble.net/work.6200770.1.sticker,375x360.zombie-reagan-2012-v1.png)

(http://www.humerusonline.com/Humerus2008siteimages/zompresimages/ZomJFK.png)

-= FIGHT!!! =-
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 18, 2011, 02:22:38 AM
:mittens:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 18, 2011, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2011, 06:26:48 PM
Oh I find it hilarious that Teabaggers are on a quest to build up Reagan's Legend Cred and tear down JFK's.  :lulz:  Let the death match begin!  :lulz:

Both of their legends are self-negated by factuality.

JFK did boff Marilyn Monroe, but that aside he was the Charlie Sheen of the 60s, with a personal death squad and nukes.

Reagan, well...enough said, I think.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 23, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
In an effort to stay as far away from looking like an Obama sympathizer as possible, Newt Gingrich reversed himself on the Libya question this month.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/03/23/newt-gingrich-completely-changes-position-on-libya-in-16-days.aspx

March 7th Newt:
"Exercise a no-fly zone this evening, communicate to the Libyan military that Gadhafi was gone and that the sooner they switch sides, the more like they were to survive, provided help to the rebels to replace him. I mean, the idea that we're confused about a man who has been an anti-American dictator since 1969 just tells you how inept this administration is. They were very quick to jump on Mubarak, who was their ally for 30 years, and they were confused about getting rid of Gadhafi. This is a moment to get rid of him. Do it. Get it over with.

...

The United States doesn't need anybody's permission. We don't need to have NATO, who frankly, won't bring much to the fight. We don't need to have the United Nations. All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we're intervening. And we don't have to send troops. All we have to do is suppress his air force, which we could do in minutes. And then we have to say publicly that he is gone, that the military should switch sides now, and we should help the rebels. And if that means getting them weapons or whatever it means, the fact that there's no more Libyan air power and the fact that the United States has publicly come out for decisively replacing him, I suspect the military will dump him."


and

March 23rd Newt:

"The standard [Obama] has fallen back to of humanitarian intervention could apply to Sudan, to North Korea, to Zimbabwe, to Syria this week, to Yemen, to Bahrain. This isn't a serious standard. This is a public relations conversation.

...

I would not have intervened. I think there were a lot of other ways to affect Qaddafi. I think there are a lot of other allies in the region we could have worked with. I would not have used American and European forces."

DID THIS FUCKTARD REALLY THINK IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF DIGITAL MEDIA NO ONE WOULD CATCH THIS?

Asshole.  Can't stand that fucker, at all.



Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on March 23, 2011, 06:50:51 PM
this thread needs more left love:

Hugo Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/us-venezuela-chavez-mars-idUSTRE72L61D20110322



Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on March 23, 2011, 07:13:47 PM
Naw, civilization collapsed because they were all to busy staring and  :fap: at the Olympus Mons. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 25, 2011, 03:53:13 PM
ALTY!  Explain this shit, please.

QuoteGov. Sean Parnell's appointee for the panel that nominates state judges testified Wednesday that he would like to see Alaskans prosecuted for having sex outside of marriage.

The candidate, Don Haase of Valdez, also admitted under questioning by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee that his official resume failed to disclose his leadership role in Eagle Forum Alaska, which advocates for social conservative issues. He most recently was president of the organization, but resigned when he learned of his nomination, he said.

Haase, picked by Parnell for one of three public seats on the Alaska Judicial Council, said that he wouldn't let his personal beliefs influence which candidates he'd approve for judgeships.

http://www.adn.com/2011/03/23/1772266/senate-panel-questions-judicial.html#ixzz1Hcw7lrOm

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:55:29 PM
Easy.  It means the state gets to look in your bedroom.

Let's hear it for small government conservatives.   :lulz:

No wonder Bristol Palin moved.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 25, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
The governor, Palin Jr Parnell wants to put this nitwit on a three person board to select the state's judges.  Said board is already infested by Teabagger Joe Miller's wife, courtesy of Palin.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on March 25, 2011, 04:02:23 PM
Where's my favorite statistics on the divorce rates and sex-outside-of-marriage rates among the Conservatives in our country?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on March 30, 2011, 09:22:01 AM
Speaking of Newt Gingrich:

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_7557.shtml

Quote"I have two grandchildren - Maggie is 11, Robert is 9," Gingrich said. "I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."
:asplode:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on March 30, 2011, 02:11:29 PM
Duh, we're going to be ruled by siamese twins.  Or people with split personalities. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on March 30, 2011, 07:53:14 PM
What

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 30, 2011, 02:11:29 PM
Duh, we're going to be ruled by siamese twins.  Or people with split personalities. 
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 30, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
I wonder if you could confuse the hell out of just about everyone by talking a group of teabaggers into supporting secularism as the way to defend themselves from the upcoming Islamist takeover.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on March 30, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
QuoteWhat is keeping America's fertility rate up are immigrants - both legal and illegal.

    There are those in America who are continuously attacking the family, bent on redefining marriage and have established anti-family government programs. This has led to downward pressure on our national total fertility rate. All of these actions are done in the name of various causes such as: reducing unwanted pregnancies, delaying child bearing to further career goals and even promoting childlessness and promoting adoption as a better option.

    Child bearing has become something distasteful to many women, an unwanted and painful experience to be avoided rather than embraced.

    All of these programs, ideals and ideologies are doing one thing and one thing only - reducing America core TFR to the point of no return. The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture.

    This county is dying not because it is aging, it is dying because of infertility as public policy.

Teabaggers.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-group-warns-white-extinction-america
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 30, 2011, 10:03:02 PM
The Tea Party: Totally not racist, but all WASPs.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2011, 10:21:13 PM
Because only WASPs can handle our economy or survival.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 30, 2011, 11:46:23 PM
Quote from: Alan GreenspanToday's competitive markets, whether we seek to recognise it or not, are driven by an international version of Adam Smith's "invisible hand" that is unredeemably opaque. With notably rare exceptions (2008, for example), the global "invisible hand" has created relatively stable exchange rates, interest rates, prices, and wage rates.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on March 30, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 30, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
QuoteWhat is keeping America's fertility rate up are immigrants - both legal and illegal.

    There are those in America who are continuously attacking the family, bent on redefining marriage and have established anti-family government programs. This has led to downward pressure on our national total fertility rate. All of these actions are done in the name of various causes such as: reducing unwanted pregnancies, delaying child bearing to further career goals and even promoting childlessness and promoting adoption as a better option.

    Child bearing has become something distasteful to many women, an unwanted and painful experience to be avoided rather than embraced.

    All of these programs, ideals and ideologies are doing one thing and one thing only - reducing America core TFR to the point of no return. The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture.

    This county is dying not because it is aging, it is dying because of infertility as public policy.

Teabaggers.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-group-warns-white-extinction-america

So white people are the only thing keeping our economy afloat and because there arent enough of them(or too many brown people) America is dyeing?

This is the most blatantly racist thing I have ever read on such a (relatively) mainstream source.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on March 30, 2011, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 30, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
QuoteWhat is keeping America's fertility rate up are immigrants - both legal and illegal.

    There are those in America who are continuously attacking the family, bent on redefining marriage and have established anti-family government programs. This has led to downward pressure on our national total fertility rate. All of these actions are done in the name of various causes such as: reducing unwanted pregnancies, delaying child bearing to further career goals and even promoting childlessness and promoting adoption as a better option.

    Child bearing has become something distasteful to many women, an unwanted and painful experience to be avoided rather than embraced.

    All of these programs, ideals and ideologies are doing one thing and one thing only - reducing America core TFR to the point of no return. The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture.

    This county is dying not because it is aging, it is dying because of infertility as public policy.

Teabaggers.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-group-warns-white-extinction-america

And apparently women having Jobs and adopting orphans is killing the country. And "the family" only applies to white people.

ASDLFJASLDKFJ THERES SO MUCH ABOUT THIS ARTICLE I HATE
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that "The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization."

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:06:07 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 30, 2011, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: Luna on March 30, 2011, 09:59:49 PM
QuoteWhat is keeping America's fertility rate up are immigrants - both legal and illegal.

    There are those in America who are continuously attacking the family, bent on redefining marriage and have established anti-family government programs. This has led to downward pressure on our national total fertility rate. All of these actions are done in the name of various causes such as: reducing unwanted pregnancies, delaying child bearing to further career goals and even promoting childlessness and promoting adoption as a better option.

    Child bearing has become something distasteful to many women, an unwanted and painful experience to be avoided rather than embraced.

    All of these programs, ideals and ideologies are doing one thing and one thing only - reducing America core TFR to the point of no return. The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) population in America is headed for extinction and with it our economy, well-being and survival as a uniquely America culture.

    This county is dying not because it is aging, it is dying because of infertility as public policy.

Teabaggers.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-group-warns-white-extinction-america

And apparently women having Jobs and adopting orphans is killing the country. And "the family" only applies to white people.

ASDLFJASLDKFJ THERES SO MUCH ABOUT THIS ARTICLE I HATE

But there's so much I love.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that "The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization."

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.

OH, FUCK!  THAT'S "Obo"!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on March 31, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that "The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization."

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.

OH, FUCK!  THAT'S "Obo"!

What?  :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 02:48:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that "The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization."

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.

OH, FUCK!  THAT'S "Obo"!

What?  :?

The anti-"Bob".

:bob:

You can tell because "Obo" doesn't have a pipe.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on March 31, 2011, 02:52:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 02:48:30 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that "The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization."

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.

OH, FUCK!  THAT'S "Obo"!

What?  :?

The anti-"Bob".

:bob:

You can tell because "Obo" doesn't have a pipe.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on April 01, 2011, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2011, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on March 31, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
QuoteWriting for Tea Part Nation, Swier says that “The title of this column is a direct quote from Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, the first leader of the former Soviet Union. Lenin's vision was for the state (Communism) to replace the family as the provider of all things necessary for life and happiness. What Lenin did not foresee was his political policies leading to the eventual extinction of Russian civilization.

TEA PARTY HISTORY LESSON:
After embracing the evils of satanic communism Russia was smited by God Baby Jesus. All that remains of their civilization are a few bottles of Vodka that miraculously survived, and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

May God have mercy on their souls.

OH, FUCK!  THAT'S "Obo"!

:lulz:  :lulz:  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: E.O.T. on April 01, 2011, 05:45:18 AM


THIS IS THE ULTIMATE TROLOLO VERSION

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7usYQVCXSrc
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 01, 2011, 05:47:09 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on April 01, 2011, 05:45:18 AM


THIS IS THE ULTIMATE TROLOLO VERSION

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7usYQVCXSrc

Great.  Now my head is broke.   :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 01, 2011, 07:52:34 PM
Quote...our civil laws are supposed to comport with God's laws but sometimes they don't, and so it is always the obligation of those, for example, the issue of abortion - the civil law does not comport with God's law, in my opinion and I think the opinion of many people in this country and it is our obligation to continue to try and change that law.

Santorum. 

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/04/santorum_law_should_comply_wit.php
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 03, 2011, 03:42:48 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on April 01, 2011, 05:45:18 AM


THIS IS THE ULTIMATE TROLOLO VERSION

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7usYQVCXSrc

Beware the false Trololol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wytn-_MSBo
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2011, 05:49:07 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on April 01, 2011, 05:45:18 AM


THIS IS THE ULTIMATE TROLOLO VERSION

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7usYQVCXSrc

I tried to watch it but EFO screamed "NOT AGAIN! TURN IT OFF!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 03, 2011, 05:49:45 PM
From the Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9kTeEshewY
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on April 03, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 03, 2011, 05:49:45 PM
From the Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9kTeEshewY
That song is  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 10, 2011, 03:46:36 PM
I honestly don't know which statement was more stupid, the original statement, or the explanation for the original stupid statement.



http://www.alan.com/2011/04/10/sen-jon-kyls-excuse-for-false-claim-about-planned-parenthood-remark-was-not-intented-to-be-factual/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 11, 2011, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: Luna on April 10, 2011, 03:46:36 PM
I honestly don't know which statement was more stupid, the original statement, or the explanation for the original stupid statement.



http://www.alan.com/2011/04/10/sen-jon-kyls-excuse-for-false-claim-about-planned-parenthood-remark-was-not-intented-to-be-factual/


:lulz:


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 12, 2011, 11:37:30 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 11, 2011, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: Luna on April 10, 2011, 03:46:36 PM
I honestly don't know which statement was more stupid, the original statement, or the explanation for the original stupid statement.



http://www.alan.com/2011/04/10/sen-jon-kyls-excuse-for-false-claim-about-planned-parenthood-remark-was-not-intented-to-be-factual/


:lulz:




Colbert picked up on this one, and associated stupidity...

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/557436/stephen_colbert%3A_no%2C_fox_and_friends%2C_you_can%27t_get_a_pap_smear_at_walgreens/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 19, 2011, 12:13:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cLxQ4B23_g

"The tea party isnt racist"


(proceeds to go on a rant about how muslims and black people are trying to kill us all)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 19, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...

If hes a troll hes a well researched one. All the arguments I hear from him Ive heard from stormspags again and again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: E.O.T. on April 19, 2011, 05:07:23 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...

ALTHOUGH

          by principle, i usually disagree with you completely, i'd have to say that this guy rules. how did i miss the teahad?! and dude! that shirt he's got on is so close to that ammo shop t that i saw in the resale store yesterday which i was telling you about - "be a nice person but be prepared to kill everyone around you" (!)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: E.O.T. on April 19, 2011, 05:09:29 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 19, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...

If hes a troll hes a well researched one. All the arguments I hear from him Ive heard from stormspags again and again.

SO

          you think slumming around stormfront is a qualification of "well/ good research?" i have to ask why you would even waste your time going there. ?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 19, 2011, 05:20:53 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on April 19, 2011, 05:09:29 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 19, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...

If hes a troll hes a well researched one. All the arguments I hear from him Ive heard from stormspags again and again.

SO

          you think slumming around stormfront is a qualification of "well/ good research?" i have to ask why you would even waste your time going there. ?

I dont, I deal with second-hand stormfronters on different forums. Slumming around on Stormfront is no fun, Nazi mods(pun intended) dont tolerate any deviation from the status quo, much less trolling.

Upon looking at his channel Ive concluded hes the real deal. Hes got a website dedicated to fishing and hunting and several videos where he spouts rather uncontroversial conservative views. I dont see any troll going through this much work.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: E.O.T. on April 19, 2011, 05:35:32 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 19, 2011, 05:20:53 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on April 19, 2011, 05:09:29 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 19, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
OH MY GOD

Is that guy a troll? He's amazing! You couldn't parody the Tea Party that well on purpose...

If hes a troll hes a well researched one. All the arguments I hear from him Ive heard from stormspags again and again.

SO

          you think slumming around stormfront is a qualification of "well/ good research?" i have to ask why you would even waste your time going there. ?

I dont, I deal with second-hand stormfronters on different forums. Slumming around on Stormfront is no fun, Nazi mods(pun intended) dont tolerate any deviation from the status quo, much less trolling.

Upon looking at his channel Ive concluded hes the real deal. Hes got a website dedicated to fishing and hunting and several videos where he spouts rather uncontroversial conservative views. I dont see any troll going through this much work.

I SEE

          what you're saying. sf is probably so locked down that it cannot be trolled. storm-fronters go to other forums? like what?

I LOVE

          that guy because he is obviously, totally earnest. i mean, that 'sportsmens' link that pops up midway through the video? nigel's just fantasizing of foxy trolls. listen to his voice of reason, soundtracked by the calming, flow of the river in the background...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2011, 08:36:10 AM
It's pretty amazing...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on April 21, 2011, 11:06:25 PM
wow just when you thought the religious right could not get funnier

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/julieingersoll/4521/religious_right_historian%3A_net_neutrality_is_%E2%80%9Cunbiblical_socialism%E2%80%9D/

Summery: Net Neutrality is "Unbiblical Socialism"

:lulz:


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on April 22, 2011, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 21, 2011, 11:06:25 PM
wow just when you thought the religious right could not get funnier

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/julieingersoll/4521/religious_right_historian%3A_net_neutrality_is_%E2%80%9Cunbiblical_socialism%E2%80%9D/

Summery: Net Neutrality is "Unbiblical Socialism"

:lulz:



As opposed to Biblical Socialism?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 22, 2011, 02:15:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on April 22, 2011, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 21, 2011, 11:06:25 PM
wow just when you thought the religious right could not get funnier

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/julieingersoll/4521/religious_right_historian%3A_net_neutrality_is_%E2%80%9Cunbiblical_socialism%E2%80%9D/

Summery: Net Neutrality is "Unbiblical Socialism"

:lulz:



As opposed to Biblical Socialism?  :lulz:

Early Christians did live in a socialist manner.  Even though the word didn't exist yet.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on April 23, 2011, 12:48:07 PM
pretty much the entire video.  she moved to my city and brought her crazy with her. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35xouuMFE7E&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on April 23, 2011, 10:05:59 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on April 23, 2011, 12:48:07 PM
pretty much the entire video.  she moved to my city and brought her crazy with her. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35xouuMFE7E&feature=player_embedded

That's a bad crazy.  Like Phoenix crazy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 24, 2011, 09:18:49 PM
Koran-burning pastor Terry Jones goes up to Michigan to protest nonexistent Sharia law. While there, he shoots a hole through the floor of his car for Jesus.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/quran-burning_pastors_gun_accidentally_goes_off_in.php?ref=fpi
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on April 24, 2011, 11:35:44 PM
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 26, 2011, 09:49:23 PM
ALLEN WEST:
QuoteWe need you to come in and lock shields, and strengthen up the men who are going to the fight for you. To let these other women know on the other side — these planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women that have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness — to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.

Yes...  That's it...  Asserting MY right to decide what do with MY body automatically makes EVERY male in the country subservient.

Jackass.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 26, 2011, 09:49:23 PM
ALLEN WEST:
QuoteWe need you to come in and lock shields, and strengthen up the men who are going to the fight for you. To let these other women know on the other side — these planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women that have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness — to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.

Yes...  That's it...  Asserting MY right to decide what do with MY body automatically makes EVERY male in the country subservient.

Jackass.

I think it is Allen West's fantasy to have a jackbooted lesbian call him names as she trods on his testicles.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 26, 2011, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 26, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 26, 2011, 09:49:23 PM
ALLEN WEST:
QuoteWe need you to come in and lock shields, and strengthen up the men who are going to the fight for you. To let these other women know on the other side — these planned Parenthood women, the Code Pink women, and all of these women that have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness — to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.

Yes...  That's it...  Asserting MY right to decide what do with MY body automatically makes EVERY male in the country subservient.

Jackass.

I think it is Allen West's fantasy to have a jackbooted lesbian call him names as she trods on his testicles.

I'd kick in ten bucks to pay said lesbian.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on April 27, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
I'll be the lesbian.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Remington on April 29, 2011, 09:05:09 PM
http://www.janecorwin.org/ (http://www.janecorwin.org/)

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2011, 02:09:02 PM
British example, from The Sun's editorial on the day of the AV national referendum:

Quote"Give Clegg a double-tap today please...A fabulous elite-forces expression has emerged from the really enjoyable, cold-blooded, very professional assassination of Bin Laden – double-tap. First shoot the victim in the head and then through the chest to make sure. I want you to promise me this morning that you will do the same to Nick Clegg when you vote today."

Yeah, kill that liberal bastard Nick Clegg....politically.  Christ, I thought the American press were bad with this kind of dog-whistle campaigning.  If the coalition is good for anything (and it mostly isn't), it has been flushing all the nutters out, from the Labour activists who think the Lib Dems should be an adjunct to their party to the Tories who think they should line up the Lib Dems and just shoot them.

Speaking of Labour, here is a bonus quote from Alistair Campbell's diaries, concerning Gaddafi:

Quote"The policy guys later briefed us on Libya. TB asked how Gaddafi stayed in power. 'Terror, a better economy and a pretty useful secret police.' 'Sounds OK,' said TB. Hague [William] laughed, Paddy [Ashdown] shook his head."

TB is Tony Blair, Paddy Ashdown was the leader of the Lib Dems at the time and William Hague was the leader of the opposition (and our current Foreign Secretary).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
More proof the coalition has sent Tories round the bend:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100010127/a-tax-based-alternative-to-the-alternative-vote/

QuoteWhy don't we restrict votes to people who actually pay something into the system? No, I am not suggesting a return to property-based eligibility; although that system worked quite well when Parliament administered not just Britain but most of the world. Today, income would be a much better test, setting the bar as low as possible; perhaps including everyone who pays at least £100 of income tax each year.

That minimal requirement would include everyone who gets out of bed in the morning to go to work and could easily be extended to include, on grounds of fairness, several other groups. For example, all pensioners – because of the fiscal contributions to society they are likely to have paid earlier – and mothers – because of their contribution to defusing the 'demographic time-bomb' of an ageing population.

This modest proposal would, however, exclude large numbers of people who have no 'skin in the game' and who may even comprise the majority of voters in some metropolitan areas today. Their contribution is not just negative in financial terms – they take out more than they put in – but likely to be damaging to the decisions taken by democracies.

For example, it is sometimes said – and uncertainly attributed to Alexander Tytler – that: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy."

Hard to believe? The credit crisis afflicting democracies around the world demonstrates the truth of this observation. So does the fact that our less  democratic competitors in the emerging markets suffer no such crisis.

Yes, the public voted for the party which promised the largest spending cuts because "the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury".  This is why the Republicans have ceased to be a force in US politics, also.

The saddest thing is that is is not just some random nutter, but the Torygraph's financial editor.  So far this week, we've had an editor for a major national newspaper call for the assassination of the Deputy Prime Minister, and another call for disenfranchising the poor.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 08, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
The Right's ability to keep repeating the same old "trickle-down" economic theories that have failed miserably for 30 years, as if they are fresh ideas that nobody has considered before, is one of their most endearing qualities. Like a kitten that repeatedly attacks its own reflection in a mirror. At first it's odd, then it's intriguing, and then you just can't stop laughing no matter how hard you try.

And then you die of asphyxiation.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on May 08, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Quote"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the votersPoliticians discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.

Quote from: postvex™ on May 08, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
The Right's ability to keep repeating the same old "trickle-down" economic theories that have failed miserably for 30 years, as if they are fresh ideas that nobody has considered before, is one of their most endearing qualities. Like a kitten that repeatedly attacks its own reflection in a mirror. At first it's odd, then it's intriguing, and then you just can't stop laughing no matter how hard you try.

And then you die of asphyxiation.

Im more surprised that they keep getting away with blatantly anti-democratic statements. I remember a prominent Tea Party member suggesting last year that an Aristocracy was a pretty cool idea. Then there are the hordes of Tea Partiers who talk about blacks "voting according to race". Hmmm I wonder what they suggest to solve that problem?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 08, 2011, 10:11:12 PM
Quote from: postvex™But, lest these over-thinking blowhards carry the day (and all your jubilation away with it), let me remind you of a few things.

Sorry, I was channeling Mark Levin for a minute there.
Seriously, apologies to people who think with their brains, and not with their red white and blue dicks.

We all backslide, right?
Right?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2011, 07:06:56 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on May 08, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
I remember a prominent Tea Party member suggesting last year that an Aristocracy was a pretty cool idea. Then there are the hordes of Tea Partiers who talk about blacks "voting according to race". Hmmm I wonder what they suggest to solve that problem?

There is an extra special irony in that charge, as the Republicans have been steadily changing themselves into a party that caters to angry white people uncomfortable around people with other skin colours since the Southern Strategy.  But IOKIAWPDI.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2011, 07:14:52 AM
Also, Obama foreign policy lulz, via the ever thought-provoking Daniel Larison:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/sandstorms_558499.html?page=3

QuoteNevertheless, he [Obama] remains uneasy about our intellectual exports. Like many men of the left, like most "realists," he gives his attention first to the natives' search for authenticity, not to their profound, often bulldozer-like, love affair with Westernization. That Libyans could be inspired by the ideas of freedom and democracy, and at the same time actually want the United States to blast the hell out of Qaddafi's army, must be disturbing to one who has accepted some of the third-world critique of American imperialism.

[...]

President Obama has certainly seemed sincere, if not Kennedyesque, in his intent to save the rebels in the eastern half of the country from the depredations of the most Orwellian strongman in the Middle East. But his sincerity rests in constant tension with the core tenet of a developing Obama Doctrine: American hegemony is not a good thing, either for the United States or for the world.

I'd love to know where Gerecht got his education.  I am not in aware of any ways in which Realism and, lets say, Fanon overlap in any modern foreign policy making institute.  And equating Realism with the left is even more hilarious, since Realists are almost uniformly conservative or, at best, centre-right liberals.

Furthermore, many nationalist "third world" movements have served American foreign policy interests.  Larison himself mentions Turkish nationalism as one, and there are many more I could name if I had another cup of coffee. 

And that Obama isn't a hegemonist is just absurd partisan posturing.  Obama is as devoted to America hegemony as anyone - in fact, the Democrats as a whole are.  That American hegemony is damaging America (through war powers weakening its legal constraints, and wars themselves weakening the economy and creating the need for cheap credit, and thus bank deregulation) and exporting chaos around the globe, rather than containing it, suggests it is a net loss for the globe as well, will no doubt be ignored by the arguing Twin Retard Party factions until the consequences hit them in the face.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I am fucking speechless.  After helping pass legislation in Kansas cutting of state funding for abortions for victims of rape, demanding women buy "abortion only" insurance as a separate policy, this dickcheese was asked

QuoteAnd Rep. Barbara Bollier, a Mission Hills Republican who supports abortion rights, questioned whether women would buy abortion-only policies long before they have crisis or unwanted pregnancies or are rape victims.

During the House's debate, Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"

Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with a pregnancy?"

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have spare tire on my car."

http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/newsnow/x1058165813/Kansas-backs-bill-restricting-abortion-coverage

Edited to unbork quote tags.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Adios on May 24, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I am fucking speechless.  After helping pass legislation in Kansas cutting of state funding for abortions for victims of rape, demanding women buy "abortion only" insurance as a separate policy, this dickcheese was asked

QuoteAnd Rep. Barbara Bollier, a Mission Hills Republican who supports abortion rights, questioned whether women would buy abortion-only policies long before they have crisis or unwanted pregnancies or are rape victims.

During the House's debate, Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"

Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with a pregnancy?"

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have spare tire on my car."
Quote

http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/newsnow/x1058165813/Kansas-backs-bill-restricting-abortion-coverage

It's Kansas. He needs the air in his head changed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 24, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I am fucking speechless.  After helping pass legislation in Kansas cutting of state funding for abortions for victims of rape, demanding women buy "abortion only" insurance as a separate policy, this dickcheese was asked

QuoteAnd Rep. Barbara Bollier, a Mission Hills Republican who supports abortion rights, questioned whether women would buy abortion-only policies long before they have crisis or unwanted pregnancies or are rape victims.

During the House's debate, Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"

Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with a pregnancy?"

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have spare tire on my car."

http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/newsnow/x1058165813/Kansas-backs-bill-restricting-abortion-coverage
It's Kansas. He needs the air in his head changed.

He needs to be taken out back of the woodshed and beaten to within an inch of his goddamn life.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on May 25, 2011, 01:43:54 AM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 24, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I am fucking speechless.  After helping pass legislation in Kansas cutting of state funding for abortions for victims of rape, demanding women buy "abortion only" insurance as a separate policy, this dickcheese was asked

QuoteAnd Rep. Barbara Bollier, a Mission Hills Republican who supports abortion rights, questioned whether women would buy abortion-only policies long before they have crisis or unwanted pregnancies or are rape victims.

During the House's debate, Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"

Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with a pregnancy?"

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have spare tire on my car."

http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/newsnow/x1058165813/Kansas-backs-bill-restricting-abortion-coverage
It's Kansas. He needs the air in his head changed.

He needs to be taken out back of the woodshed and beaten to within an inch of his goddamn life.
Nah, a milimeter. Or just go all the way. Plan ahead indeed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on May 25, 2011, 01:53:49 AM
Up next: Rape Insurance

Say I'm wrong. It's coming.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 25, 2011, 02:15:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 25, 2011, 01:43:54 AM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 24, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 24, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
I am fucking speechless.  After helping pass legislation in Kansas cutting of state funding for abortions for victims of rape, demanding women buy "abortion only" insurance as a separate policy, this dickcheese was asked

QuoteAnd Rep. Barbara Bollier, a Mission Hills Republican who supports abortion rights, questioned whether women would buy abortion-only policies long before they have crisis or unwanted pregnancies or are rape victims.

During the House's debate, Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"

Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with a pregnancy?"

DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have spare tire on my car."

http://www.mcphersonsentinel.com/newsnow/x1058165813/Kansas-backs-bill-restricting-abortion-coverage
It's Kansas. He needs the air in his head changed.

He needs to be taken out back of the woodshed and beaten to within an inch of his goddamn life.
Nah, a milimeter. Or just go all the way. Plan ahead indeed.

I think he needs to be raped by someone with diseases that his insurance wont cover.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 25, 2011, 04:27:00 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 25, 2011, 01:53:49 AM
Up next: Rape Insurance

Say I'm wrong. It's coming.

Not taking sucker bets.  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 25, 2011, 04:32:36 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on May 25, 2011, 01:53:49 AM
Up next: Rape Insurance

Say I'm wrong. It's coming.

12 years too late

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,93076,oo.html

QuoteRape - every woman's deepest fear - is why we glance over our shoulders in dark, deserted streets; why we double lock our doors and install burglar alarms; why we avoid public transport late at night and unpeopled woodland by day.

The latest innovation in one of its markets by a leading British insurance company seems, however, a giant step backwards for mankind. They have cottoned on to a new opportunity: the risk that HIV has added to rape.

It takes three months for HIV to show up in tests: agonised waiting for the beginning of a slow death. But a cocktail of anti-retroviral drugs, including AZT, taken within the first 24 hours, may ward off the virus. HIV replicates very quickly in the initial stages so it's important to counteract it as soon as possible. But these drugs are very expensive and not easily available

Enter the guardian angel in the form of CGU's subsidiary in South Africa. This month it proudly unveiled the Rape Survivor, a pilot insurance policy for rape, which if successful will no doubt spread to other countries.

On its face, it seems sensible. In South Africa, one in three women can expect to be raped; some 25 % of the population is HIV-positive. The health service cannot afford these drugs for rape victims and few health insurance policies will pay for them. The cost of about £500 is beyond the means of most women.

For £2.50 a month, the Rape Survivor will provide the victim and her family with expert counselling and the most effective anti-HIV drugs on the market. The head of CGU in South Africa, Roger Wainless, says: "This policy is a compassionate response to a traumatic problem facing many South Africans today, empowering individuals."

Except, of course, that compassion is hardly Mr Wainless's motive; he - and his company - are driven by the possibility of making profits out of rape.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on May 25, 2011, 04:33:20 AM
 :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 25, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
HAW, HAW.

Quote from: Herman Cain, running for GOP candidate"And I know that there's some people that are not going to do that. So, for the benefit for those that are not going to read it because they don't want us to go by the Constitution, there's a little section in there that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

"You know, those ideals that we live by, we believe in, your parents believe in, they instilled in you. When you get to the part about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, don't stop right there, keep reading.

"'Cause that's when it says that when any form of government becomes destructive of those ideals, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. We've got some altering and some abolishing to do."


That phrase is in the second paragraph of the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, which was written in 1776, 11 years before the Constitution was drafted during the Constitutional Convention of 1787.

That language about abolishing government? It's in the third paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/may/25/herman-cain/cain-mistakes-declaration-independence-language-co/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on June 01, 2011, 07:40:51 AM
Apparently Rick Santorum really really wants to run for president.

There was a bit of a gaff at a recent stump speech, and Rachel Madow noticed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO9ON7ZJozY

1) I can't believe she made it through that bit with a straight face.

2) Holyshit, best century for politics EVER.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 01, 2011, 10:05:10 AM
I don't even...   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:31:07 PM
Re: Santorum: ha!  What an idiot.  I hope he does run.  That would be so awesome.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI’m not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they’ve been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they’ve been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn’t be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.

No shit!

Also, where exactly is he advocating we deport people to?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 01, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI’m not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they’ve been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they’ve been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn’t be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.

No shit!

Also, where exactly is he advocating we deport people to?  :lulz:

Wisconsin?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 01, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.

No shit!

Also, where exactly is he advocating we deport people to?  :lulz:

Well, if they don't have their own country to go to, I suppose he wants us to just pitch them into the nearest convenient ocean...  Or just ship 'em to Mexico...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on June 01, 2011, 05:08:57 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.

No shit!

Also, where exactly is he advocating we deport people to?  :lulz:

Georgia.

It would be all retro and shit. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 01, 2011, 06:06:59 PM
The irony of this is I'm pretty sure The Ron Paul Survival Report was being hawked around various southern based militia movements (who, you know, advocated the violent overthrow of the Federal government) in the 1990s.  Daddy Paul should be dragged before a Congressional Subcommittee on un-American activities and be made to explain himself, or be deported to Mexico.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 01, 2011, 06:19:09 PM
Oh that would be fun. :lulz:

Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 01, 2011, 05:08:57 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 01, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 01, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Rand Paul, defender of individual liberties...

QuoteI'm not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they've been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they've been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn't be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that's really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.



Rand Paul is proof that they hand out medical degrees to any asshole, regardless of mental ability.

No shit!

Also, where exactly is he advocating we deport people to?  :lulz:

Georgia.

It would be all retro and shit. 
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on June 04, 2011, 05:07:41 AM
It turns out the new Xmen movie is all about how Nazis are cool and Islam is the best thing ever.
Quote
You know times have really changed when the superheroes of yesteryear who were applauded for pursuing Nazis have been replaced by superheroes who deplore the pursuit of Nazis and men who are “arch villains” for killing Nazis. Maybe it’s because it might offend Muslims, Pat Buchanan, and Lars Von Trier.

It’s the second half that completely ruined it for me. Not only was it a mess, but the ultimate message of the movie is that it’s a bad thing for a Holocaust survivor to want to go after the Nazi doctor who murdered his mother–that vengeance is bad. Huh?

Also, sorry comicbookland-cum-Hollywood, but your stories about the West and the Communists being coaxed into Cold War nuclear war by evildoers is getting old and very stale. Anything to avoid touching on a more current battle, like the West versus Islam, right?

They’re just evil, and Hollywood can’t come up with anything better when they try so hard to avoid Islam.

www.debbieschlussel.com/38111/

I wasnt aware there were any Islamic villians in Xmen to avoid. How dare this prequel of a series with a well established timeline use an age appropriate conflict, it should have been about the Xmen fighting Islamic terrorists in the 60s. Just like in the comic.

EDIT: Also, such a Muslim fighting arc would definitely be in line with the spirit of the franchise. Remember all the classic Xmen storylines about the mutants defending good wholesome white heterosexual christian America from those evil minorities?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 04, 2011, 06:14:20 AM
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
The simple fact is: Hollywood will continue to show zombies, aliens, robots and rogue officials gone Mad With Power as villains until the end of time - because when you start painting certain ethnic groups or countries as villains, they tend to not go to the cinema to watch your films.

Hollywood is a business, and is devoted to making a profit.  Why does Schlussel hate capitalism?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on June 04, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
You forgot nazis, that's ALWAYS kosher.

also, :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 07, 2011, 03:18:38 PM
[oops... post moved to the more appropriate sarah palin thread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24143.msg1058585#msg1058585)]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2011, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on June 04, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
You forgot nazis, that's ALWAYS kosher.

also, :lulz:

True.  Undead Robot Nazi Aliens would be a perfect antagonist in Hollywood's calculations.

Also, here is a Law Professor advocating war crimes and terrorism:

Quote from: William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Law Stephen L. CarterAttacking A to make him give up B might seem ethically questionable, but in battle such a tactic is not uncommon. During the Iraq War, American forces shelled Baghdad to deter the Republican Guard from retreating into the city. The tactic worked, but civilians died. History teaches that it is not possible to fight a war without making tragic decisions along the way.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 08, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
:crankey:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2011, 08:17:09 PM
Texas is passing a bill which forbids any funding to hospitals that perform abortions, or are affilliated with ANY group involved with abortions.

:lulz:

Stella, move your arse to civilization.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2011, 03:35:29 AM
A US Congressman just got booted out of Iraq.  Guess what he said?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpps/news/iraq-kicks-out-us-congressman-over-repayment-remark-dpgonc-20110611-bb_13635789

Quote"Once Iraq becomes a very rich and prosperous country ... we would hope that some consideration be given to repaying the US some of the mega-dollars that we have spent here in the last eight years," Rohrabacher said at the US embassy Monday.

Quote"We called the US embassy yesterday [Friday], and we told them to ask the congressmen to leave Iraq," government spokesman Ali al Dabbagh said. "We don't want them here. What they said was inappropriate."

lolz.  He's as dumb as a bag of bricks, but he's got balls to say that, even in Baghdad.  All the common sense of a permamently concussed kitten and the life-expectancy of a mayfly, but ballsy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 12, 2011, 03:56:09 AM
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on June 12, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
"You guys should be GRATEFUL that we invaded you."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Adios on June 14, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Seriously people, he is always setting new lows.

Rush Limbaugh: It's Liberal Women's Fault Weiner Cheated

"Why can't we blame liberal women for what these politicians are doing? They have feminized politics to such a degree that men can't be men anymore. They've all got to be out there and prove that they're Alan Alda or whoever is the definition of a real man. Michael Kinsley? I don't know. But look at what we're told. We're told that Weiner is the man of the hour. What he is is a genuine pencil-necked geek."
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limb...r-cheated/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on June 15, 2011, 01:39:08 PM
Yeah, but I tend to think that a pencil neck geek has many more redeeming qualities compared to a pill-popping fat fuck. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 15, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 15, 2011, 01:39:08 PM
Yeah, but I tend to think that a pencil neck geek has many more redeeming qualities compared to a pill-popping misogynistic fat fuck. 




God, I fucking hate that man. But I look forward to questioning my Tea Bagger stepdad closely on this. :lulz: He doesn't particularly care what I think, but I think I'll do it when my rather feminist mother's in the room.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 15, 2011, 02:27:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 14, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Seriously people, he is always setting new lows.

Rush Limbaugh: It's Liberal Women's Fault Weiner Cheated

"Why can't we blame liberal women for what these politicians are doing? They have feminized politics to such a degree that men can't be men anymore. They've all got to be out there and prove that they're Alan Alda or whoever is the definition of a real man. Michael Kinsley? I don't know. But look at what we're told. We're told that Weiner is the man of the hour. What he is is a genuine pencil-necked geek."
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limb...r-cheated/


He's big on that, basically portraying men as complete slaves to our sex drives who will be whatever is most likely to get us laid.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
The thing is, didn't some of those pictures show some fairly impressive pecs for what appears to be a skinny Jewish dude?

Whereas, on the other hand, Limbaugh probably has to wear a bra to keep his moobs in check.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 15, 2011, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
Whereas, on the other hand, Limbaugh probably has to wear a bra to keep his moobs in check.

:vom:

Goddamn it, Cain, I had a lunch date, how am I gonna EAT?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
Don't worry - while he probably secretly wears a frilly pink bra, I very much doubt he wears the matching thong to go with it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on June 15, 2011, 03:50:39 PM
He strikes me as more of a manties kind of guy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 15, 2011, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
Don't worry - while he probably secretly wears a frilly pink bra, I very much doubt he wears the matching thong to go with it.

You see this?  THIS is why I didn't come back to this thread until AFTER lunch.   :p
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 16, 2011, 12:32:41 AM
Quote from: Luna on June 15, 2011, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
Don't worry - while he probably secretly wears a frilly pink bra, I very much doubt he wears the matching thong to go with it.

You see this?  THIS is why I didn't come back to this thread until AFTER lunch.   :p
:sadbanana:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 16, 2011, 02:23:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 16, 2011, 12:32:41 AM
Quote from: Luna on June 15, 2011, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2011, 03:38:04 PM
Don't worry - while he probably secretly wears a frilly pink bra, I very much doubt he wears the matching thong to go with it.

You see this?  THIS is why I didn't come back to this thread until AFTER lunch.   :p
:sadbanana:

Well, that, and he didn't spit that out until after I'd left the house for a shopping run and to meet my friend for lunch.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 17, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
The National Review wants flogging back on the agenda

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-lieu-of-prison-bring-back-the-lash/2011/06/10/AGBIpUWH_story.html

The article is flawed, but genuinely quite interesting, in a way.  Unfortunately, TRO's troglodytes, propagandists and sadists then had to chip and express their love of human suffering and public humiliation:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269784/re-bring-back-lash-andrew-c-mccarthy

QuoteJonah, this dovetails with a thought experiment I've been pushing for a while now, in rebuttal to the claim that waterboarding (as it was administered by the CIA on three top al-Qaeda detainees) is torture. If you gave every inmate serving, say, two years or less in prison the option of being waterboarded or completing his sentence, what would he choose? I'd be stunned if less than 95 percent chose waterboarding.

QuoteJonah and Andy: I'm not entirely sure about flogging, but I have long seriously advocated the return of stocks, especially for crimes of a nature that inherently degrade public life... I think 24 hours in the stocks for defacing a public space with graffiti would be appropriate, especially if the stocks were set up at the scene of the crime...

QuoteBut I also think that government should mostly do its business in public, including its punitive business. Public crimes ask for public punishments.

QuoteAs for the flogging, I remember thinking in the case of young Michael Fay — you may remember: the snot-nosed American punk kid who got himself caned in Singapore back in 1994 — that the punishment was probably appropriate to the crime, perhaps even a little on the lenient side
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:08:26 PM
I say we put these pansyasses in jail for a week and see if they still want the stocks/lash.

Pussy fucking wankers.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
I'm in favor of the lash for the same reason as the original author.  Prison is expensive, cruel, and completely ineffective.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

No, I can't agree there.  I think there's a better way to reform.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 08:02:05 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

No, I can't agree there.  I think there's a better way to reform.

Better as in better than prison, which tends to cause people to come out worse than they went in.

There may be a better way out there, one that actually causes people to become less likely to commit crimes, which I'm not saying lashing would do.  Lashing would satisfy the public's desire for punishment while not serving as a training ground for criminality, not costing us vast quantities of money, and not stealing years from the lives of offenders and their families.

I just don't know what that better way is.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 08:05:00 PM
"Public's desire for punishment" is not what the so-called justice system should be about.  You're talking about mob rule, I'm talking about payment to society for going against the laws of the land to keep people safe from harm.

Harming them right the fuck back makes no sense.  Payment for restitution and rehabilitation should be the top priorities.

Not some fucked up sense of what makes the mob outside happiest.

Because they'll NEVER be satisfied.

BH, go look at some public hanging pix (there's some lovely postcards of them from the last century that were traded as novelties) and tell me that THIS is what we need to strive for.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on June 18, 2011, 02:16:55 AM
Jenne,

I really hate to disappoint you, but our criminal justice system hasn't had "rehabilitation" as a goal for a long time now. (Having said that, I'm as pissed as you are about it.)

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/17/137236801/high-court-age-must-be-considered-in-interrogation

QuotePrison Sentences

In another criminal law decision, the court ruled unanimously that a federal judge cannot impose a longer prison sentence than what the sentencing guidelines permit simply to promote rehabilitation. In the case before the court, a judge imposed a 51-month sentence on Alejandra Tapia for smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. The sentence was at the outer edge of the sentencing guidelines, and the judge said he was imposing the longer sentence so that the defendant could qualify for all 500 hours of a federal drug-treatment program. The Supreme Court, however, said the judge went too far.

Writing for the court, Justice Kagan noted that for nearly a century federal law was based on the use of sentencing and parole to promote rehabilitation. But Congress, she added, abandoned that approach to focus more on retribution, deterrence and incapacitation. While rehabilitation may be considered, she said, Congress made clear that "imprisonment is not an appropriate means of promoting rehabilitation."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 03:25:28 AM
...so make it WORSE by beating people?

I know, let's compound the failure of every government "service" by making it fail HARDER.

Cuz that's how you WIN!

Besides...I never said that rehabilitation IS what prison reform is about, I said it's what it SHOULD be about.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on June 18, 2011, 04:53:42 AM
(Having said that, I'm as pissed as you are about it.)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 05:58:55 AM
Ah good.  :D
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2011, 06:05:34 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
I'm in favor of the lash for the same reason as the original author.  Prison is expensive, cruel, and completely ineffective.

Just pull their fingernails off.  They'll never do it again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2011, 06:05:34 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
I'm in favor of the lash for the same reason as the original author.  Prison is expensive, cruel, and completely ineffective.

Just pull their fingernails off.  They'll never do it again.

Thank you.  For a while there I thought I was the lonely voice in the wilderness.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2011, 05:28:16 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jun/17/tory-philip-davies-disabled-people-work

QuoteA Tory MP has sparked anger by suggesting that disabled people should work for less than the minimum wage to increase their chances of being taken on by employers.

Philip Davies told the Commons: "If an employer is looking at two candidates, one who has got disabilities and one who hasn't, and they have got to pay them both the same rate, I invite you to guess which one the employer is more likely to take on.

"Given that some of those people with a learning disability clearly, by definition, cannot be as productive in their work as somebody who has not got a disability of that nature, then it was inevitable that, given the employer was going to have to pay them both the same, they were going to take on the person who was going to be more productive, less of a risk.

"My view is that for some people the national minimum wage may be more of a hindrance than a help.

"If those people who consider it is being a hindrance to them, and in my view that's some of the most vulnerable people in society, if they feel that for a short period of time, taking a lower rate of pay to help them get on their first rung of the jobs ladder, if they judge that that is a good thing, I don't see why we should be standing in their way."

The mental health charity Mind dismissed the Shipley MP's comments as "preposterous". Richard Hawkes, chief executive of disability charity Scope, said the MP had got it "seriously wrong". "This reveals a lot about how we value disabled people – and what we think they have to offer when it comes to work," he said. "In fact disabled people can contribute as much to a workplace as anyone else.

Davies has a history of making controversial statements out of sync with his party high command. A Conservative party spokesman said: "These comments do not reflect the views of the Conservative party and do not reflect government policy."

In the debate, Davies was challenged over his remarks by fellow Tory MP Edward Leigh, who told him: "Why actually should a disabled person work for less than £5.93 an hour. It is not a lot of money, is it?"

But Davies said criticism of his remarks was "leftwing hysteria".

Hopefully the Tory hard right will rally around him, and we'll get this fight between the wets and nutters I've long been waiting for.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on June 18, 2011, 06:07:19 PM
Hmm, one of the 'so called conservatives' in Oregon tried to float that line of bullshit (Lets Undercut the Min Wage! It'll Be Great For Everybody!), but it was youth (under18) and waitresses that were targeted as a demographic. Interesting synchronicity, and this one really, really brings out the hypocrisy.

:argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2011, 06:05:34 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
I'm in favor of the lash for the same reason as the original author.  Prison is expensive, cruel, and completely ineffective.

Just pull their fingernails off.  They'll never do it again.

Thank you.  For a while there I thought I was the lonely voice in the wilderness.

You seem to be interpreting me as in favor of the lash AND prison.  I'm in favor of the lash INSTEAD of prison.  Because I know there is no way we can simply abandon punishment.

A system of restitution would be better still, but unlikely.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on June 18, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

So you advocate a punishment that you would prefer done to you?

Think about that for a second.

Punishments aren't supposed to be enjoyable.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 18, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

So you advocate a punishment that you would prefer done to you?

Think about that for a second.

Punishments aren't supposed to be enjoyable.

I'd rather someone I hate be lashed too.  More visceral immediate enjoyment.  I can watch and enjoy.

I can't watch and enjoy when he's in a cage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 18, 2011, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 18, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

So you advocate a punishment that you would prefer done to you?

Think about that for a second.

Punishments aren't supposed to be enjoyable.

I'd rather someone I hate be lashed too.  More visceral immediate enjoyment.  I can watch and enjoy.

I can't watch and enjoy when he's in a cage.

HEY THERE!

I just dropped by this thread to inform you that THAT'S NOT OKAY.
I mean, it's your life. Do what you want (away from me.)

We all have these urges, you know. It's a human thing. I keep imagining beating in my ex's new guy's face in with a tire iron. AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. I don't WANT to imagine that but it is a powerful urge. Instinctual maybe since he's near my kids, territorial thing left over from evolution I guess.

But uh the whole fucking point of being a human is to rise above those urges.

The whole point of a prison system, I feel, is less to keep THEM away from US and more keeping people like YOU away from THEM.

You method is the easy and stupid one that we have striven to avoid, built majestic cities on the dependable fuel of avoiding a life you are trying to attain.

PLEASE DO KEEP YOUR URGES OUT OF MY CIVILIZATION KAY?

I mean, come ON MAN. I have seen fed up with argument that anarchy will lead to the fucking thunderdome and here you wishing our current system replaced with something VERY MUCH LIKE THE THUNDERDOME. In terms of sophistication anyhow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
BH...wow.  Prison's not there for you to FEEL anything but "hey that guy or gal's getting his punishment for doing something very very bad."  Feeling "fuck yeah, GITTIN' ME SOME JUSTICE!" is NOT a platform for changing the system for the better. Beating people is not better than locking them up.  Period.

...I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
BH...wow.  Prison's not there for you to FEEL anything but "hey that guy or gal's getting his punishment for doing something very very bad."  Feeling "fuck yeah, GITTIN' ME SOME JUSTICE!" is NOT a platform for changing the system for the better. Beating people is not better than locking them up.  Period.

...I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp...

It costs less, it doesn't rob criminals of years of their life, it doesn't train them to be better criminals, and it gives the victim a more visceral immediate feeling of revenge.  How is it not better than prison?

I haven't seen any arguements for prison here yet, just ones against beating.

Alty, just because the barbarism is instiutionalized and corporatized and handled by someone else on our behalf where we can't see it doesn't make it any less barbaric.  it just makes it more expensive and less effective.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Placid Dingo on June 19, 2011, 12:54:33 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
BH...wow.  Prison's not there for you to FEEL anything but "hey that guy or gal's getting his punishment for doing something very very bad."  Feeling "fuck yeah, GITTIN' ME SOME JUSTICE!" is NOT a platform for changing the system for the better. Beating people is not better than locking them up.  Period.

...I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp...

It costs less, it doesn't rob criminals of years of their life, it doesn't train them to be better criminals, and it gives the victim a more visceral immediate feeling of revenge.  How is it not better than prison?

I haven't seen any arguements for prison here yet, just ones against beating.

Alty, just because the barbarism is instiutionalized and corporatized and handled by someone else on our behalf where we can't see it doesn't make it any less barbaric.  it just makes it more expensive and less effective.

Take unbalanced Antisocial danger to society and beat the shit out of them and throw them back?

Not sure I feel safer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 19, 2011, 01:02:40 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM

Alty, just because the barbarism is instiutionalized and corporatized and handled by someone else on our behalf where we can't see it doesn't make it any less barbaric.  it just makes it more expensive and less effective.



So, embrace that barbarism because it's cheaper?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on June 19, 2011, 01:05:15 AM
Solution: KILL EVERYONE WHO BREAKS THE LAW!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 19, 2011, 01:08:17 AM
And your post, BH, totally ignores my main point which is that it's not OK to enjoy people you hate getting beaten by...well, by whom exactly? Who does the whipping? Maybe you could do it, eh? Maybe we could all just take it into our own hands. Much cheaper that way. And FUN.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 19, 2011, 01:09:11 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 19, 2011, 01:05:15 AM
Solution: KILL EVERYONE WHO BREAKS THE LAW!!!!!!

Fixed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on June 19, 2011, 01:11:22 AM
Quote from: Alty on June 19, 2011, 01:09:11 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 19, 2011, 01:05:15 AM
Solution: KILL EVERYONE WHO BREAKS THE LAW!!!!!!

Fixed.
:lulz:




Oh and need I remind everyone that BH gets off on snuff porn.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 01:25:28 AM
Quote from: Alty on June 19, 2011, 01:02:40 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM

Alty, just because the barbarism is instiutionalized and corporatized and handled by someone else on our behalf where we can't see it doesn't make it any less barbaric.  it just makes it more expensive and less effective.



So, embrace that barbarism because it's cheaper?

better cheaper barbarism than more expensive barbarism.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 19, 2011, 01:32:53 AM
So long as the lesser of the two evils gratifies your personal tastes. Sure. Whatever.

Much better.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on June 19, 2011, 01:37:06 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 01:25:28 AM
Quote from: Alty on June 19, 2011, 01:02:40 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM

Alty, just because the barbarism is instiutionalized and corporatized and handled by someone else on our behalf where we can't see it doesn't make it any less barbaric.  it just makes it more expensive and less effective.



So, embrace that barbarism because it's cheaper?

better cheaper barbarism that I can beat off to than more expensive barbarism.



fixt
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: CorbeauEtRenard on June 19, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
BH...wow.  Prison's not there for you to FEEL anything but "hey that guy or gal's getting his punishment for doing something very very bad."  Feeling "fuck yeah, GITTIN' ME SOME JUSTICE!" is NOT a platform for changing the system for the better. Beating people is not better than locking them up.  Period.

...I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp...

It costs less, it doesn't rob criminals of years of their life, it doesn't train them to be better criminals, and it gives the victim a more visceral immediate feeling of revenge.  How is it not better than prison?

I haven't seen any arguements for prison here yet, just ones against beating.

As bad as prison is as an option, it at least has the benefit of separating habitual criminals from most of the pool of potential victims at least temporarily.
Yeah, it causes problems in the process of even doing that, but it does take away most of the opportunity for them to victimize innocent members of society further at least to a point.

Knocking the shit out of them and then cutting them loose puts them right back in the pool of victims, only more disgruntled and angry at the world than before. I mean, sure, fear might make them hold back temporarily, but I could talk for days about how fear is probably the least reliable behavioral control method available.

So between doesn't help but keeps them away from victims for a while and doesn't help but makes the previous victim feel lizard-brain fulfilled-retribution emotions, I'd definitely prefer we go with the former, even though I enjoy those lizard-brain emotions as much as the next guy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
All very insightful thoughts, from a bunch of people, who as far as I can tell, have never been to Prison. Go and do a stretch inside, even a short one, then come back and read your 'insights' again. Until you have, then all your opinions on the subject are flawed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2011, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 18, 2011, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2011, 06:05:34 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
I'm in favor of the lash for the same reason as the original author.  Prison is expensive, cruel, and completely ineffective.

Just pull their fingernails off.  They'll never do it again.

Thank you.  For a while there I thought I was the lonely voice in the wilderness.

You seem to be interpreting me as in favor of the lash AND prison.  I'm in favor of the lash INSTEAD of prison.  Because I know there is no way we can simply abandon punishment.

A system of restitution would be better still, but unlikely.

You, sir, are a hippie.  Cut their feet off.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Placid Dingo on June 19, 2011, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
All very insightful thoughts, from a bunch of people, who as far as I can tell, have never been to Prison. Go and do a stretch inside, even a short one, then come back and read your 'insights' again. Until you have, then all your opinions on the subject are flawed.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2011, 03:43:52 PM
I think BH has been reading crappy Heinlein novels again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 19, 2011, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
All very insightful thoughts, from a bunch of people, who as far as I can tell, have never been to Prison. Go and do a stretch inside, even a short one, then come back and read your 'insights' again. Until you have, then all your opinions on the subject are flawed.

My father did hard time for 3.5 years, then minimum security for another 3.  I don't know and haven't seen ALL he had to endure, but I know way more than your average PD'er.

THAT being said, BH, I still don't know WHY your moral compass is so fucked up.  Your first clue that your bent on this was flawed was that you AGREED with a rightwingnut blogger.  THEN thinking that "cheaper beatings" was a way to punitive "victory" over the penal system was also severely assinine.

THESE ARE MOTHERFUCKING PEOPLE, goddammit.  Not senseless, unintelligent beings.  Beating their asses is more demoralizing than separating them from friends, family and their freedom for a spell.

YES we need to change how we approach our penal system and implement it.  YES we need to change the amount that is spent on incarceration (it's NOT quality of life, dammit, that keeps those rates so sky-high--it's the motherfucking TRIPLE GODDAMMED PENSIONS that the fuckers who run the places wrack up).

BUT FIRST, we need to CHANGE how we VIEW those who break the law.

Because maybe THEN they won't be the throw-away citizens they tended to be treated as.

DON'T give me what so-called societal reality is on this--we're talking WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.  DON'T give me the argument "we haven't done it that way," because no one IS SAYING we have.  What I'm telling your asses is that if we CHANGE the way we see what the consequences of breaking the law means, and if we CHANGE the way we see what needs to be done preventatively, WE MIGHT FIGHT RESCIDIVISM and we MIGHT just be able to STOP throwing away such a HUGEASS chunk of the population.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 19, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2011, 03:43:52 PM
I think BH has been reading crappy Heinlein novels again.

I think he needs to spend some time "on the inside," even if it's just to be an observer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 19, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 19, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2011, 03:43:52 PM
I think BH has been reading crappy Heinlein novels again.

I think he needs to spend some time "on the inside," even if it's just to be an observer.

So that I can learn that it is not so fucked up that it would be better to replace it with beatings?


I haven't been in prison by my brother in law has, my cousin has, and a few of my friends have.  None of them came out better for it, and my cousin came out of it involved with the Aryan Brotherhood.  Sure, that's his own fault, but I know that I really wish he'd just been beaten, I bet the people who's house he was arrested for breaking into wish he had been beaten, and I know any non-white person that he encounters would prefer that he had been beaten.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 19, 2011, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 18, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

So you advocate a punishment that you would prefer done to you?

Think about that for a second.

Punishments aren't supposed to be enjoyable.

I'd rather someone I hate be lashed too.  More visceral immediate enjoyment.  I can watch and enjoy.

I can't watch and enjoy when he's in a cage.

Well, I guess now we know who's still on all fours here.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 19, 2011, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 18, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 18, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 17, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 17, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
So beating someone's better?

Um, no.

And "fixing" prison's problems with beatings is NOT the way to fix it.  It's going backwards.

I'd certainly rather be beaten than spend a month in prison, let alone years.

Beating people may not be good, but it is better.

So you advocate a punishment that you would prefer done to you?

Think about that for a second.

Punishments aren't supposed to be enjoyable.

I'd rather someone I hate be lashed too.  More visceral immediate enjoyment.  I can watch and enjoy.

I can't watch and enjoy when he's in a cage.

Well, I guess now we know who's still on all fours here.  :lulz:

Um.  We already knew he had "special" taste in porn, right?  This is hardly a surprise.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
Thing is, the type of Criminal a society has, is largely dependent on the style of "Justice" system they have. In the US, the Prisons are penitentiary in nature, the high violence and brutality levels between factional races/gangs combined with the amount of long term sentences handed out by the Judiciary, all contribute to the level of violence and desperation encountered in the criminal at large, who has done any time. The "Three strikes" rule that I know some (if not all) states have, means that someone convicted of non-violent Burglary twice, is far more prepared to use higher levels of violence, to avoid being caught a third time. So your burglars are progressing on to more violent crimes, simply because the Judiciary raises the ante so high for a third striker. And the sheer amount of people in the US Prison population, per 100,000 is, I think, second only to China. So not only are you getting a more desperate criminal being produced, you are also getting more of them per head per capita than anywhere else.   
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 19, 2011, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
Thing is, the type of Criminal a society has, is largely dependent on the style of "Justice" system they have. In the US, the Prisons are penitentiary in nature, the high violence and brutality levels between factional races/gangs combined with the amount of long term sentences handed out by the Judiciary, all contribute to the level of violence and desperation encountered in the criminal at large, who has done any time. The "Three strikes" rule that I know some (if not all) states have, means that someone convicted of non-violent Burglary twice, is far more prepared to use higher levels of violence, to avoid being caught a third time. So your burglars are progressing on to more violent crimes, simply because the Judiciary raises the ante so high for a third striker. And the sheer amount of people in the US Prison population, per 100,000 is, I think, second only to China. So not only are you getting a more desperate criminal being produced, you are also getting more of them per head per capita than anywhere else.   

Actually, we're WAY ahead of China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prisoner_population_rate_UN_HDR_2007_2008.PNG
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 19, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
I have no love for our justice system beyond its capacity to protect me from a large amount of random acts of violence, robbery, etc.

I am definitely not taking the position that it's the best option we have.

All I'm saying is that the desire replace it with a system that seeks to gratify a personal fetish sense of justice and a desire to see your enemies physically punished is a sign of un-fun badwrongness.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 19, 2011, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
Thing is, the type of Criminal a society has, is largely dependent on the style of "Justice" system they have. In the US, the Prisons are penitentiary in nature, the high violence and brutality levels between factional races/gangs combined with the amount of long term sentences handed out by the Judiciary, all contribute to the level of violence and desperation encountered in the criminal at large, who has done any time. The "Three strikes" rule that I know some (if not all) states have, means that someone convicted of non-violent Burglary twice, is far more prepared to use higher levels of violence, to avoid being caught a third time. So your burglars are progressing on to more violent crimes, simply because the Judiciary raises the ante so high for a third striker. And the sheer amount of people in the US Prison population, per 100,000 is, I think, second only to China. So not only are you getting a more desperate criminal being produced, you are also getting more of them per head per capita than anywhere else.  

Actually, we're WAY ahead of China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prisoner_population_rate_UN_HDR_2007_2008.PNG
Wow! That's way higher than I thought. Over 5 times higher than we've got in the UK.  
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 11:06:07 PM
Quote from: Alty on June 19, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
I have no love for our justice system beyond its capacity to protect me from a large amount of random acts of violence, robbery, etc.

I am definitely not taking the position that it's the best option we have.

All I'm saying is that the desire replace it with a system that seeks to gratify a personal fetish sense of justice and a desire to see your enemies physically punished is a sign of un-fun badwrongness.
I agree totally. Compared to US Prisons, our own really are like holiday camps. This is reflected by the chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in the UK. Although it may be on the rise, our worst Cities are still far safer for citizenry than in US Cities.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 20, 2011, 03:09:02 PM
...and there's a reason for that.  Well, many, really.  American society's complex legal system, coupled with the hybrid of justice-for-all-but-freedom-first kinda makes for a very bizarro situation.  We are over-legislated, which means there's way too much to throw a body into jail for, and it's something society sees as on off-set to liberty that they cash in for feeling "safe."

We're nowhere NEAR China in civil liberties rapes...but we're getting damned close.  We incarcerate far more than they do, but then, we've got a much tighter centralized way of controlling people.

And the UK has more CCTV's per street corners than we do, I believe...though I could be wrong about that.

Prison in Yurp in general is a cake walk, relatively speaking, compared to what we have here in the US, unless you're in minimum security or a "Club Fed," but even those are not "fun."  By any means.

I'm never going to say, yeah, let's keep the status quo! for our government ANYTHING...but neither will I say baby and bathwater need to gtfo.  Because what's behind it might be WORSE.  Things can ALWAYS get worse.

AND BEATING PEOPLE IS WORSE.  Period.  EOS.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 20, 2011, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 19, 2011, 11:06:07 PM
Quote from: Alty on June 19, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
I have no love for our justice system beyond its capacity to protect me from a large amount of random acts of violence, robbery, etc.

I am definitely not taking the position that it's the best option we have.

All I'm saying is that the desire replace it with a system that seeks to gratify a personal fetish sense of justice and a desire to see your enemies physically punished is a sign of un-fun badwrongness.
I agree totally. Compared to US Prisons, our own really are like holiday camps. This is reflected by the chance of becoming a victim of violent crime in the UK. Although it may be on the rise, our worst Cities are still far safer for citizenry than in US Cities.

All the figures I've seen show a decline in violent crime over the past 20 years.

Conversely, reporting on and thus fear of violent crime has increased in the same period, giving the impression of a possible rise.

Also I would say it depends on what prison.  While few UK prisons are going to be as bad as certain US max-security facilities, the likes of Belmarsh and the other Catergory A prisons are no laughing matter.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 20, 2011, 06:19:44 PM
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_and_Punish

Foucault begins the book by contrasting two forms of penalty: the violent and chaotic public torture of Robert-François Damiens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert-Fran%C3%A7ois_Damiens), who was convicted of attempted regicide in the mid-18th century, and the highly regimented daily schedule for inmates from an early 19th century prison. These examples provide a picture of just how profound the change in western penal systems were after less than a century. Foucault wants the reader to consider what led to these changes. How did western culture shift so radically?

To answer this question, he begins by examining public torture itself. He argues that the public spectacle of torture was a theatrical forum that served several intended and unintended purposes for society. The intended purposes were:

Some unintended consequences were:

Thus, he argues, the public execution was ultimately an ineffective use of the body, qualified as non-economical. As well, it was applied non-uniformly and haphazardly. Hence, its political cost was too high. It was the antithesis of the more modern concerns of the state: order and generalization.[/list]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
QuoteIn 2011, Victoria Jackson criticized the TV show Glee for showing a kiss between two male actors, calling it "Sickening", and cited the bible as her reason for making such a statement. When accused of being homophobic, Jackson countered that that was merely a "Cute liberal buzzword", and suggested that Glee should be replaced with a show promoting celibacy instead.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 21, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
QuoteIn 2011, Victoria Jackson criticized the TV show Glee for showing a kiss between two male actors, calling it "Sickening", and cited the bible as her reason for making such a statement. When accused of being homophobic, Jackson countered that that was merely a "Cute liberal buzzword", and suggested that Glee should be replaced with a show promoting celibacy instead.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)
Silly Bitch.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Glee should be replaced.  Not for being homophobic.  For being a heartening unfunny message of self-actualization that comes via a stunningly insipid medium. These people find out who they really are by singing hits from Top 40 Radio. They find identity and strength in the lowest-common denominator. It's like looking deep within yourself and saying, "I know who I am, world, and I am proudly beige."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Glee should be replaced.  Not for being homophobic.  For being a heartening unfunny message of self-actualization that comes via a stunningly insipid medium. These people find out who they really are by singing hits from Top 40 Radio. They find identity and strength in the lowest-common denominator. It's like looking deep within yourself and saying, "I know who I am, world, and I am proudly beige."

No argument there.  I'm just having fun watching Victoria Jackson assfuck the corpse of her career.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 21, 2011, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Glee should be replaced.  Not for being homophobic.  For being a heartening unfunny message of self-actualization that comes via a stunningly insipid medium. These people find out who they really are by singing hits from Top 40 Radio. They find identity and strength in the lowest-common denominator. It's like looking deep within yourself and saying, "I know who I am, world, and I am proudly beige."

never actually seen the show, as listening to even 10 minutes of musical theater causes me break out in hives, but this description was quite  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Idem on June 21, 2011, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
It's like looking deep within yourself and saying, "I know who I am, world, and I am proudly beige."

:mittens:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Salty on June 21, 2011, 11:28:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
Glee should be replaced.  Not for being homophobic.  For being a heartening unfunny message of self-actualization that comes via a stunningly insipid medium. These people find out who they really are by singing hits from Top 40 Radio. They find identity and strength in the lowest-common denominator. It's like looking deep within yourself and saying, "I know who I am, world, and I am proudly beige."

:potd:

When pressed I could not explain just why that show is unwatchable, it was instinctual, instant. This explains it perfectly.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 11:04:40 AM
http://gleesucks.com/ is, incidentally, one of the best websites in the world.

Not because I hate Glee (although I do).  But because they take apart and deconstruct each episode with much more care and attention to detail than the scriptwriters and producers of the actual program do.

Plus their tagline is awesome.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on June 22, 2011, 06:17:36 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)
[/quote]

Is that a bow in her head?  Is she supposed to be a present?  Channeling Madonna's early years? WTF?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on June 22, 2011, 06:24:45 PM
:lulz: It's pretty ridiculous looking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: Khara on June 22, 2011, 06:17:36 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)

Is that a bow in her head?  Is she supposed to be a present?  Channeling Madonna's early years? WTF?
[/quote]

That was her "signature" look back when she was known and noted.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on June 22, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: Khara on June 22, 2011, 06:17:36 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)


Is that a bow in her head?  Is she supposed to be a present?  Channeling Madonna's early years? WTF?

That was her "signature" look back when she was known and noted.

In the 80's?  Please tell me that isn't recent.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 08:41:45 PM
I believe the political opinions of someone who didn't even learn to vote until 2000 (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/vjackson/2010/06/09/im-mad-at-christians/) should be taken very seriously indeed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
She's not that "important" of a person--not even sure why the fuck she's on Fux News and the like--they probably just like having a d-lister make drunk-sounding comments to gather ratings.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 22, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
She's not that "important" of a person--not even sure why the fuck she's on Fux News and the like--they probably just like having a d-lister make drunk-sounding comments to gather ratings.
Isn't that what they first said about Dubya?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2011, 10:18:41 PM
Quote from: Khara on June 22, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: Khara on June 22, 2011, 06:17:36 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Victoria_Jackson.jpg/225px-Victoria_Jackson.jpg)


Is that a bow in her head?  Is she supposed to be a present?  Channeling Madonna's early years? WTF?

That was her "signature" look back when she was known and noted.

In the 80's?  Please tell me that isn't recent.

We didn't have teabaggers in the 80s.  Just saying.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2011, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 22, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
She's not that "important" of a person--not even sure why the fuck she's on Fux News and the like--they probably just like having a d-lister make drunk-sounding comments to gather ratings.
Isn't that what they first said about Dubya?

No.  I knew that fucker was trouble, the moment he became governor of Texas.  When he said he was "considering running for president", I knew he'd win, the same way I know the sun will come up in the morning.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2011, 06:58:14 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 22, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
She's not that "important" of a person--not even sure why the fuck she's on Fux News and the like--they probably just like having a d-lister make drunk-sounding comments to gather ratings.

Because she's a celebrity, and conservative.

That's all there is to it.  It's low grade culture war nonsense.  Like how Ben Stein imagines scriptwriters for big name TV shows smuggling in Conservative Memes past Liberal Censors.  It shows that BIG ENTERTAINMENT is hopelessly biased towards liberalism despite the many, many "blacklisted" conservatives in the business.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 23, 2011, 02:35:27 PM
Oh agreed...Fux News and the like LOVE it when the smallish conservative element of Hollywood gets smacked down by fellow celebrities (cf Rosie O'Donnell and Tom Selleck).  They feel so martyred and "justified" and therefore "fair and balanced" since the "rest of the media" tell "only one side."  This has SOME truth to it, but only to obfuscate what's important, in the end...which is so damned frustrating to folks like Jon Stewart. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
Oh yeah, there is definitely an element of truth to it.

But I suspect on general demographic terms, "Hollywood liberals" and the like are closer to "everybody fucking else" in the general area, and, indeed, a good 25% of the American population who identify themselves as liberal in their voting habits, and not some sort of weird parastic evil agency/Illuminati controlling the media to keep Real Amurricans down through their sinister minority control of the airwaves.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 23, 2011, 02:45:49 PM
Well, I guess the caveat should be made that when speaking about anything liberal + American, we're talking "an American brand" of liberalism.  Not one that can be interpretable as anywhere CLOSE to "liberalism" anywhere else.  On the planet.

I have to say there actually IS a well-establashed elite clique of American liberal celebrities.  You see them paraded WEEKLY on Maher...and they show up on Stewart's and Colbert's shows often as well.

So in regards to THAT, no, I think Fux News actually has the right of it.

HOWEVER, the "lamestream media" actually panders to RATINGS, not Celebrities' Causes...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
Well that's just it.  American Conservative Movement Warriors go through media outputs looking for examples of "liberal heresy" and decrying them once they are inevitably found.  Everyone else just says "well, is this a good story, with coherent plot, interesting and engaging characters etc etc that I can enjoy?"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 23, 2011, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
Well that's just it.  American Conservative Movement Warriors go through media outputs looking for examples of "liberal heresy" and decrying them once they are inevitably found.  Everyone else just says "well, is this a good story, with coherent plot, interesting and engaging characters etc etc that I can enjoy?"

ha ha--YUP.  And Maher et al have now dedicated themselves to FEEDING that cannon.  It's pretty funny--his "Religulous" movie (for whatever it's worth--wasn't too bad, just went a little OVERBOARD in the style of Sasha Baron Cohen's Borat--getting middle and red state America to lail itself) was passed over and caused WAY TOO LITTLE ire in that area of the media.  I mean, I remember CLEARLY the not-so-hit-movie "The Last Temptation of Christ" debacle in the 80's--in fact, I think my own church members might've protested themselves out at Mann's Chinese in L.A.

And here "Religulous" just caused a few eye rolls, IIRC.  Served up on a platter, and because Maher's so well entrenched as an anti-religion, potheaded LIBRUL...he was summarily dismissed.

More often than NOT, the American liberal cliques end up going after themselves on TV...because it's well established by now there's a mutual enmity between conservatives and liberals (again, using the American labels here).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Idem on June 27, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jun/27/the-wrong-john-wayne/#.TgjBaMY9_hQ.reddit

QuoteRep. Michele Bachmann kicked off her presidential campaign on Monday in Waterloo, Iowa, and in one interview surrounding the official event she promised to mimic the spirit of Waterloo's own John Wayne.

The only problem, as one eagle-eyed reader notes: Waterloo's John Wayne was not the beloved movie star, but rather John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on June 27, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
:lulz:  Well, her campaign followed it up by saying John Wayne's parents lived in Waterloo, it's just that the actor himself never did.  :lulz: 

Ah me, I'm not sure I can survive a Bachmann candidacy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 27, 2011, 09:38:59 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: aaaaahhahahah I just can't take this century sometimes!


if she actually runs on the john wayne gacy platform, I'll vote for her.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2011, 09:40:35 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Chairman Risus on June 27, 2011, 10:39:51 PM
Here is a corresponding video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsLfL9vMaUY&feature=player_embedded

Is it just me or is the frequency of stuff like this increasing?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on June 27, 2011, 11:01:01 PM
QuoteWell, I always thought politics was for the middle age people. But then, one day, I was the middle age people.




:aaa: :aaa: :aaa: :aaa:
:mittens:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 27, 2011, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: Idem on June 27, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jun/27/the-wrong-john-wayne/#.TgjBaMY9_hQ.reddit

QuoteRep. Michele Bachmann kicked off her presidential campaign on Monday in Waterloo, Iowa, and in one interview surrounding the official event she promised to mimic the spirit of Waterloo's own John Wayne.

The only problem, as one eagle-eyed reader notes: Waterloo's John Wayne was not the beloved movie star, but rather John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer.

But was he supporter of the free markets?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Idem on June 28, 2011, 07:35:48 AM
Quote from: Risus on June 27, 2011, 10:39:51 PM
Here is a corresponding video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsLfL9vMaUY&feature=player_embedded

Is it just me or is the frequency of stuff like this increasing?
:lulz: top comment

"I heard John Wayne rode through Iowa ringing bells, warning the British they weren't gonna take their corn."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on June 28, 2011, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Risus on June 27, 2011, 10:39:51 PM
Here is a corresponding video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsLfL9vMaUY&feature=player_embedded

Is it just me or is the frequency of stuff like this increasing?

Gacy wasn't even FROM Waterloo, Iowa, he was born in Chicago...  He just happened to be moved there by his parents, and settled in to begin his life of raping and murdering boys and men...  Maybe there's more about Lady Dingbat we need to know...

(http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/assets_c/2011/02/bachmann%20clown%20200-thumb-200x165.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
"Now that the New York State Legislature has legalized homo marriage, there is not really any difference left between the United States and North Korea."
- Kathryn Jean Lopez, in National Review.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 30, 2011, 02:56:28 AM
x-post

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-ultimate-collection-of-stupid-michele-bachmann
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 03:48:03 AM
I don't understand Michelle Bachmann

Palin? Ok not too interested but I'd still tap that ass.
Hasselbeck? Damn straight. I would make her cry... in Ecstasy
SE Cupp? You better believe it.
Malkin? Hell yah!
O'Donnell? As soon as I see that sexy witch I'm masturbating within seconds
Bachmann? Shriveled.   :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2011, 06:26:06 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
"Now that the New York State Legislature has legalized homo marriage, there is not really any difference left between the United States and North Korea."
- Kathryn Jean Lopez, in National Review.

Lulz.  Not only because of the incredible hyperbole, but because it's wrong:

Quote from: La WikiNorth Korea does not recognize same-sex marriages, civil unions or domestic partnership benefits. Most North Koreans face strong social pressure to marry a suitable person of the opposite sex, with the government rarely allowing for divorce.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 30, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 30, 2011, 06:26:06 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2011, 02:55:41 AM
"Now that the New York State Legislature has legalized homo marriage, there is not really any difference left between the United States and North Korea."
- Kathryn Jean Lopez, in National Review.

Lulz.  Not only because of the incredible hyperbole, but because it's wrong:

Quote from: La WikiNorth Korea does not recognize same-sex marriages, civil unions or domestic partnership benefits. Most North Koreans face strong social pressure to marry a suitable person of the opposite sex, with the government rarely allowing for divorce.

Ha, thanks for posting that. I was having a moment of incredible cognitive dissonance, trying to imagine one of the most restrictive governments on earth recognizing gay marriage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 30, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 03:48:03 AM
I don't understand Michelle Bachmann

Palin? Ok not too interested but I'd still tap that ass.
Hasselbeck? Damn straight. I would make her cry... in Ecstasy
SE Cupp? You better believe it.
Malkin? Hell yah!
O'Donnell? As soon as I see that sexy witch I'm masturbating within seconds
Bachmann? Shriveled.   :sad:


I did not know who this was.  So I looked.

QuoteCupp presents evolution -- and science more generally -- as the enemy of religion. Reporters' "propping up of science," she writes, is an "attack on Christianity."

Creationism belongs in science classes, she claims, because it is "not a conspiracy theory," and "half the American population believes it."

Now I hate you.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 30, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 30, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 03:48:03 AM
I don't understand Michelle Bachmann

Palin? Ok not too interested but I'd still tap that ass.
Hasselbeck? Damn straight. I would make her cry... in Ecstasy
SE Cupp? You better believe it.
Malkin? Hell yah!
O'Donnell? As soon as I see that sexy witch I'm masturbating within seconds
Bachmann? Shriveled.   :sad:


I did not know who this was.  So I looked.

QuoteCupp presents evolution -- and science more generally -- as the enemy of religion. Reporters' "propping up of science," she writes, is an "attack on Christianity."

Creationism belongs in science classes, she claims, because it is "not a conspiracy theory," and "half the American population believes it."

Now I hate you.

but if science is the enemy of religion then shouldn't science classes just be banned?  teaching creationism in them means you are teaching Christianity in the halls of the enemy.  One of those serving two masters bits that Christians are supposed to avoid.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 30, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 03:48:03 AM
I don't understand Michelle Bachmann

Palin? Ok not too interested but I'd still tap that ass.
Hasselbeck? Damn straight. I would make her cry... in Ecstasy
SE Cupp? You better believe it.
Malkin? Hell yah!
O'Donnell? As soon as I see that sexy witch I'm masturbating within seconds
Bachmann? Shriveled.   :sad:


I did not know who this was.  So I looked.

QuoteCupp presents evolution -- and science more generally -- as the enemy of religion. Reporters' "propping up of science," she writes, is an "attack on Christianity."

Creationism belongs in science classes, she claims, because it is "not a conspiracy theory," and "half the American population believes it."

Now I hate you.


:lulz:
The best part is in almost every interview she goes on how much of an atheist she is. Also she's annoying as hell, bigoted and probably has had her brains turned into mash potatoes with some sort of government alien technology (at least thats my theory right now).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2011, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 30, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 30, 2011, 03:48:03 AM
I don't understand Michelle Bachmann

Palin? Ok not too interested but I'd still tap that ass.
Hasselbeck? Damn straight. I would make her cry... in Ecstasy
SE Cupp? You better believe it.
Malkin? Hell yah!
O'Donnell? As soon as I see that sexy witch I'm masturbating within seconds
Bachmann? Shriveled.   :sad:


I did not know who this was.  So I looked.

QuoteCupp presents evolution -- and science more generally -- as the enemy of religion. Reporters' "propping up of science," she writes, is an "attack on Christianity."

Creationism belongs in science classes, she claims, because it is "not a conspiracy theory," and "half the American population believes it."

Now I hate you.

Yes, but she looks like this

(http://images.newsmax.com/misc/SE.jpg)

And is a trained ballet dancer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 30, 2011, 08:00:27 PM
Those eyes.... She's one of the Others, isn't she?

KILL IT WITH FIRE, JON SNOW!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on June 30, 2011, 08:01:28 PM
She looks like she's been sucking on lemons. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
I still would.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on June 30, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
hell, I would too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on June 30, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Certainly before Michele Bachmann. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 30, 2011, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 30, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
hell, I would too.

Yes, but you also prefer Danny Elfman to Eric B and Rakim.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on June 30, 2011, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on June 30, 2011, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on June 30, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
hell, I would too.

Yes, but you also prefer Danny Elfman to Eric B and Rakim.

Can't I have both?

Elfman and Eric B & Rakim, not Cupp and Bachmann.











ok, all 4
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 08, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.

WAIT!!  So slavery and all that went with it is a lesser evil than being raised by a single mother?  Oh this chick is insane.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on July 08, 2011, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.

I highly doubt that is accurate.  Slaves were commonly sold separately and marriages broken up.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 08, 2011, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Khara on July 08, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.

WAIT!!  So slavery and all that went with it is a lesser evil than being raised by a single mother?  Oh this chick is insane.

check #8
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/16/246618/bachmann-craziest-quotes/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 08, 2011, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 08, 2011, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Khara on July 08, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.

WAIT!!  So slavery and all that went with it is a lesser evil than being raised by a single mother?  Oh this chick is insane.

check #8
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/16/246618/bachmann-craziest-quotes/

:eek:

I'm just......


:x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on July 08, 2011, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.
The article doesn't deny that she's a lesbian either.  The silence is deafening.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 08, 2011, 06:14:33 PM
TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on July 08, 2011, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Michelle Bachmann says black children were better off during slavery: (http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2011/07/michelle-bachmann-signs-pledge-that-says-black-children-better-off-during-slavery/)

QuoteSlavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President

The article neglects to mention if she's a lesbian or not.

Bachmann neglects to mention that a slave child feeling close to both parents was a function of being chained to them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on July 08, 2011, 09:50:17 PM
:spittake:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on July 10, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
What did he say?  "It's a personal matter."

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/629546/an_anti-abortion_ohio_legislator's_embarrassing,_inebriated,_viagra-fueled_night_out/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


Oh, we gotta go visit this asshole's website.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 12, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


Oh, we gotta go visit this asshole's website.   :lulz:

http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/ (http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/)

I can't find an actual website, but there is his email.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Khara on July 12, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


Oh, we gotta go visit this asshole's website.   :lulz:

http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/ (http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/)

I can't find an actual website, but there is his email.  :lulz:

Woot.

1 horrible fucking letter in the making.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on July 12, 2011, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Khara on July 12, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


Oh, we gotta go visit this asshole's website.   :lulz:

http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/ (http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/)

I can't find an actual website, but there is his email.  :lulz:

Woot.

1 horrible fucking letter in the making.

SO MANY PROJECTS. NOT ENOUGH INSPIRATION. :cramstipated:

Phox,
Writing another damn letter.....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 12, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: Khara on July 12, 2011, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 12, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: l©m©n©o©, PhD on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


Oh, we gotta go visit this asshole's website.   :lulz:

http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/ (http://www.nh.gov/council/district4/)

I can't find an actual website, but there is his email.  :lulz:

:argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on July 12, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
That took less time than I expected... I guess I was just in the right mood....

ETA Link to letter http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=29702.0
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 02:01:38 AM
Bachmann has pledged that, as president, she will end cap & trade.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58664.html

Unfortunately, there's not actually a cap & trade program TO end.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 13, 2011, 02:28:36 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (deceased) on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


"LIVE FREE OR DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on July 13, 2011, 03:24:22 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 13, 2011, 02:28:36 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (deceased) on July 12, 2011, 04:34:48 PM
Hey, Suu!  How much do you idolize New Hampshire now?


New Hampshire Completely Defunds Planned Parenthood (http://jezebel.com/5820240/new-hampshire-loses-its-damn-mind-defunds-planned-parenthood)

QuoteCouncilor Raymond Wieczorek of Manchester added that he opposed funding for birth control and condoms altogether.

"If they want to have a good time, why not let them pay for it?" he told the Concord Monitor last week.


"LIVE FREE OR DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

"Live free, but pay to fuck!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on July 13, 2011, 03:27:14 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 02:01:38 AM
Bachmann has pledged that, as president, she will end cap & trade.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58664.html

Unfortunately, there's not actually a cap & trade program TO end.   :lulz:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2011, 10:00:32 AM
You laugh now, but wait until she also ends Obama's death panels.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on July 13, 2011, 02:33:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 13, 2011, 10:00:32 AM
You laugh now, but wait until she also ends Obama's death panels.

Death for everyone!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on July 15, 2011, 08:59:24 AM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/sex_with_demons_rick_perrys_nutty_christian_pals_in_their_own_words/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 15, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
GOP Candidate/Nutbag Herman Cain, regarding a proposed mosque to be built in Tennessee:

"It is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion."



(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5035866599_aef07fb899_b.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2011, 02:19:21 PM
How dare Muslims build on the sacred ground of Tennessee?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on July 15, 2011, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: Telarus on July 15, 2011, 08:59:24 AM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/sex_with_demons_rick_perrys_nutty_christian_pals_in_their_own_words/
:lulz:  :lulz:  :horrormirth:  :lulz:

QuoteThe Illuminati, which is really over and above Freemasonry, has stated it as their goal to limit the world population to no more than five hundred million.  Do you realize that means getting rid of all of us?  To get from six or seven billion down to five hundred million, you're going to have to kill a lot of people off.

... Dramatic Pause ...

What do you think the Health Care Bill is?

Dun DUN DUN!
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 15, 2011, 08:24:45 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
Huh.  Pat Robertston said 2 billion was the goal.  Obviousy the Illuminati are feeling cocky.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on July 15, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
oh my god. :lulz: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on July 15, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (deceased) on July 15, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
GOP Candidate/Nutbag Herman Cain, regarding a proposed mosque to be built in Tennessee:

"It is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion."



(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5035866599_aef07fb899_b.jpg)

OH FOR CRAPPING OUT LOUD!!!

:cramstipated:

I can't believe GW Bush actually seems like a reasonable person compared to some of the people coming out of the woodwork these days.

QuoteIn Sept 2001, W said:

Thank you all very much for your hospitality.  We've just had a -- wide-ranging discussions on the matter at hand.  Like the good folks standing with me, the American people were appalled and outraged at last Tuesday's attacks.  And so were Muslims all across the world.  Both Americans and Muslim friends and citizens, tax-paying citizens, and Muslims in nations were just appalled and could not believe what we saw on our TV screens.

     These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith.  And it's important for my fellow Americans to understand that.

     The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself:  In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil.  For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule.

     The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam.  That's not what Islam is all about.  Islam is peace.  These terrorists don't represent peace.  They represent evil and war.

     When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world.  Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace.  And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.

     America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country.  Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads.  And they need to be treated with respect.  In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.

     Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes.  Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America.  That's not the America I know.  That's not the America I value.

     I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America.

     Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.

     This is a great country.  It's a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth.  And it is my honor to be meeting with leaders who feel just the same way I do.  They're outraged, they're sad.  They love America just as much as I do
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2011, 11:28:59 PM
One of the few good things to come from the Bush administration was that speech.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on July 15, 2011, 11:59:15 PM
Some of the people involved in the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro are friends of mine, so this whole thing is just giving me fits.

I was helping one of them move back in 2009, and I made a joke about the possibility of a repeat of the Henry Louis Gates incident, completely ignorant of the fact that there was nothing outlandish about that at all. He was apparently well aware of the potential threat, because he didn't seem to find my comment to be very funny.

So now I feel like an insensitive clod about it.  :sad:

But on the upside, now I have several prominent local targets for venting my rage. (suggestions welcome)

Also, GOOD NEWS EVERYONE, the Rutherford Reader now posts their full paper online. The Rutherford Reader is a local paper that has been key in stirring up shit against the ICM, and American Muslims in general.

Xttp://rutherfordreader.com/index.asp

eta: BTW, almost every Chinese buffet in Murfreesboro has a Rutherford Reader stand near the entrance. WTF?

The paper was available at local Kroger stores for a while, but when they realized what a bunch of asshats they were they kicked them out. Since then, they have organize a boycott against Kroger, and recently took credit for a store in the nearby town of Smyrna closing down.

I've wondered if they use intimidation tactics to get the Chinese places to carry their paper. I mean, Asian = Buddhist = removal of desire for material things = COMMUNISM! Don't you know.

I had a conversation with the guy behind the register at one of the Buffets that carry the paper, and he defended it as freedom of speech, and commented that all these other newspapers were always printing lies about China, and besides, I don't have to read it if I don't want to.

:crankey:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on July 16, 2011, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 15, 2011, 11:59:15 PM
..., and besides, I don't have to read it if I don't want to.

:crankey:

"You're absolutely correct.  And I don't have to eat here, if I don't want to, either..."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2011, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
Huh.  Pat Robertston said 2 billion was the goal.  Obviousy the Illuminati are feeling cocky.

Oddly enough, 2 billion seems to be the sustainable carrying capacity of the planet with the technology that we currently have in place.

In any case, it's still too fucking many.  These illuminatards need to get on the fucking stick.  Last bastard off the planet, turn out the lights.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2011, 02:23:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2011, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2011, 08:41:38 PM
Huh.  Pat Robertston said 2 billion was the goal.  Obviousy the Illuminati are feeling cocky.

Oddly enough, 2 billion seems to be the sustainable carrying capacity of the planet with the technology that we currently have in place.

In any case, it's still too fucking many.  These illuminatards need to get on the fucking stick.  Last bastard off the planet, turn out the lights.

Yeah, it was a UN, or Club of Rome report or something.  And since we know all those kind of organizations are working for international liberalism, meaning Communism, meaning Satanism, meaning Illuminism, obviously they're thumbing their nose at all of us with their fancy "reports" and "science" and shit.  God wouldn't just let billions of excess humans die needlessly (ie without Pat profiting off of it first).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 18, 2011, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2011, 02:19:21 PM
How dare Muslims build on the sacred ground of Tennessee?

TENNESSEE IS SACRED TO ELVIS  :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on July 19, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
I hereby nominate this one for some sort of special prize.

Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
QuoteAmerica must rewrite the Constitution to force conservative outcomes because we the people consistently elect lawmakers who disagree with McConnell:

The time has come for a balanced budget amendment that forces Washington to balance its books. If these debt negotiations have convinced us of anything, it's that we can't leave it to politicians in Washington to make the difficult decisions that they need to get our fiscal house in order. The balanced budget amendment will do that for them. Now is the moment. No more games. No more gimmicks. The Constitution must be amended to keep the government in check. We've tried persuasion. We've tried negotiations. We're tried elections. Nothing has worked.

I shit you not...  "Hey, The People won't elect the people who will do what WE want them to do?  Fuck them."

hxxp://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/07/13/267791/mcconnell-hates-democracy/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on July 19, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Quote from: Precious Moments Zalgo on July 15, 2011, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: Telarus on July 15, 2011, 08:59:24 AM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/sex_with_demons_rick_perrys_nutty_christian_pals_in_their_own_words/
:lulz:  :lulz:  :horrormirth:  :lulz:

QuoteThe Illuminati, which is really over and above Freemasonry, has stated it as their goal to limit the world population to no more than five hundred million.  Do you realize that means getting rid of all of us?  To get from six or seven billion down to five hundred million, you're going to have to kill a lot of people off.

... Dramatic Pause ...

What do you think the Health Care Bill is?

Dun DUN DUN!
:lulz:

Every year I hear another nutjob quoting the Georgia guidestone as if it is prophecy and I want to shake those people and yell at them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-tax-hike

The GoP is trying to force the Social Security tax cut which Obama put into effect (which affects ONLY those who make $106,800/year or less) expire.  See tax cuts are apparently only good if they're for RICH people, so they can create JOBZ!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 07:11:07 AM
Quote from: Luna on July 19, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
I hereby nominate this one for some sort of special prize.

Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
QuoteAmerica must rewrite the Constitution to force conservative outcomes because we the people consistently elect lawmakers who disagree with McConnell:

The time has come for a balanced budget amendment that forces Washington to balance its books. If these debt negotiations have convinced us of anything, it's that we can't leave it to politicians in Washington to make the difficult decisions that they need to get our fiscal house in order. The balanced budget amendment will do that for them. Now is the moment. No more games. No more gimmicks. The Constitution must be amended to keep the government in check. We've tried persuasion. We've tried negotiations. We're tried elections. Nothing has worked.

I shit you not...  "Hey, The People won't elect the people who will do what WE want them to do?  Fuck them."

hxxp://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/07/13/267791/mcconnell-hates-democracy/

CLASSIC.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-tax-hike

The GoP is trying to force the Social Security tax cut which Obama put into effect (which affects ONLY those who make $106,800/year or less) expire.  See tax cuts are apparently only good if they're for RICH people, so they can create JOBZ!

I am always astounded that ANY poor people support Rebublicans.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 02, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 02, 2011, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-tax-hike

The GoP is trying to force the Social Security tax cut which Obama put into effect (which affects ONLY those who make $106,800/year or less) expire.  See tax cuts are apparently only good if they're for RICH people, so they can create JOBZ!

I am always astounded that ANY poor people support Rebublicans.

It's almost enough to make a person conclude Marx was right about "false consciousness" all along.

Matt Taibbi had a persuasive argument for this, actually, in Griftopia.  Government, both federal and state, is notoriously difficult on small businessmen, of the sort that poor voters are more likely to know.  If you don't dot your i's and cross your t's, they will come down on you like a ton of bricks.  Their efforts at regulation tend to strangle innovation and force price rises, which eventually push such small companies out of business.

The mistake is, they think these effects also scale up, to the top corporations, instead of having being lobbied for by those same major corporations, because in America IOKIFYAMNC (Its OK If You're A Multinational Corporation).  Rules famously to not apply to most banks, hedge funds, the military-industrial sector and so on.

But because they see government meddling in these minor ways, they assume they also meddle with major companies in the same way, and so identify with them over government.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 02, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 02, 2011, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-tax-hike

The GoP is trying to force the Social Security tax cut which Obama put into effect (which affects ONLY those who make $106,800/year or less) expire.  See tax cuts are apparently only good if they're for RICH people, so they can create JOBZ!

I am always astounded that ANY poor people support Rebublicans.

It's almost enough to make a person conclude Marx was right about "false consciousness" all along.

Matt Taibbi had a persuasive argument for this, actually, in Griftopia.  Government, both federal and state, is notoriously difficult on small businessmen, of the sort that poor voters are more likely to know.  If you don't dot your i's and cross your t's, they will come down on you like a ton of bricks.  Their efforts at regulation tend to strangle innovation and force price rises, which eventually push such small companies out of business.

The mistake is, they think these effects also scale up, to the top corporations, instead of having being lobbied for by those same major corporations, because in America IOKIFYAMNC (Its OK If You're A Multinational Corporation).  Rules famously to not apply to most banks, hedge funds, the military-industrial sector and so on.

But because they see government meddling in these minor ways, they assume they also meddle with major companies in the same way, and so identify with them over government.

Like a form of Stockholm Syndrome, really.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 02, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
QuoteGaffney: There is evidence of at best incompetence and at worst, you could argue, it's treasonous. There's something else that I would like to introduce as a concept I didn't frankly know of it myself until fairly recently, also a felony offense in the U.S. code, it's called misprision of treason. And that is a crime in which an individual, doesn't have to be a government official but it would apply there but also to private citizens, who knows or has reason to know that seditious activity is under way and does nothing about it. I think we need to include that in the possibilities here because what our friend and co-author Andy McCarthy has called willful blindness may actually be a criminal offense under our statutes and people need to be held accountable.

I've called in a column I wrote a couple of weeks ago in the Washington Times for a new congressional oversight committee. Back in the Cold War as we talked about in our first program we wrestled with another totalitarian ideology that was determined to destroy us back when the McCarren Act was enacted, we had what was then called the House Un-American Activities Committee to explore what was going on, who was doing it, who was helping them do it, what the implications would be if it weren't stopped. I think at the very least a new House Anti-American Activities Committee.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gaffney-establish-house-anti-american-activities-committee
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 02, 2011, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 02, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 02, 2011, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:40:14 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-tax-hike

The GoP is trying to force the Social Security tax cut which Obama put into effect (which affects ONLY those who make $106,800/year or less) expire.  See tax cuts are apparently only good if they're for RICH people, so they can create JOBZ!

I am always astounded that ANY poor people support Rebublicans.

It's almost enough to make a person conclude Marx was right about "false consciousness" all along.

Matt Taibbi had a persuasive argument for this, actually, in Griftopia.  Government, both federal and state, is notoriously difficult on small businessmen, of the sort that poor voters are more likely to know.  If you don't dot your i's and cross your t's, they will come down on you like a ton of bricks.  Their efforts at regulation tend to strangle innovation and force price rises, which eventually push such small companies out of business.

The mistake is, they think these effects also scale up, to the top corporations, instead of having being lobbied for by those same major corporations, because in America IOKIFYAMNC (Its OK If You're A Multinational Corporation).  Rules famously to not apply to most banks, hedge funds, the military-industrial sector and so on.

But because they see government meddling in these minor ways, they assume they also meddle with major companies in the same way, and so identify with them over government.

That is incredibly insightful. Damn.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: deadfong on September 02, 2011, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: Luna on September 02, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
QuoteGaffney: There is evidence of at best incompetence and at worst, you could argue, it's treasonous. There's something else that I would like to introduce as a concept I didn't frankly know of it myself until fairly recently, also a felony offense in the U.S. code, it's called misprision of treason. And that is a crime in which an individual, doesn't have to be a government official but it would apply there but also to private citizens, who knows or has reason to know that seditious activity is under way and does nothing about it. I think we need to include that in the possibilities here because what our friend and co-author Andy McCarthy has called willful blindness may actually be a criminal offense under our statutes and people need to be held accountable.

I've called in a column I wrote a couple of weeks ago in the Washington Times for a new congressional oversight committee. Back in the Cold War as we talked about in our first program we wrestled with another totalitarian ideology that was determined to destroy us back when the McCarren Act was enacted, we had what was then called the House Un-American Activities Committee to explore what was going on, who was doing it, who was helping them do it, what the implications would be if it weren't stopped. I think at the very least a new House Anti-American Activities Committee.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gaffney-establish-house-anti-american-activities-committee

What a good idea, especially in light of how well the first one worked!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
Priceless: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/columnist_registering_poor_to_vote_like_handing_out_burglary_tools_to_criminals.php?ref=fpa

QuoteConservative columnist Matthew Vadum is just going to come right out and say it: registering the poor to vote is un-American and "like handing out burglary tools to criminals."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 02, 2011, 11:23:32 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 02, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
Priceless: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/columnist_registering_poor_to_vote_like_handing_out_burglary_tools_to_criminals.php?ref=fpa

QuoteConservative columnist Matthew Vadum is just going to come right out and say it: registering the poor to vote is un-American and "like handing out burglary tools to criminals."

You see Nigel, welfare for the poor just creates dependency.

Corporate welfare just creates jobs.

Get with the program.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 11:30:12 PM
Wow, I had no idea that this particular loony bin even existed: http://oregonmag.com/

And Shilo Inns is an advertiser. GOOD TO KNOW.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 03, 2011, 11:06:54 AM
Because comparing homosexuality to bestiality, incest, and pedophilia just didn't cause him enough shit, Santorum ups the ante and compares gays to radical Islamists...

Quote"So the gay community said, 'He's comparing gay sex to incest and polygamy, how dare he do this,' and they have gone out on a, I would argue, jihad against Rick Santorum since then," Santorum said at a campaign event in Spartanburg, S.C., on Friday...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/santorum-the-gay-community-is-on-a-jihad-against-me.php
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Triple Zero on September 03, 2011, 12:27:41 PM
comparing it to bestiality, incest and pedophilia was worse though, IMHO.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 03, 2011, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2011, 12:27:41 PM
comparing it to bestiality, incest and pedophilia was worse though, IMHO.

Oh, absolutely...  However, there wasn't much further he could go down THAT path.  Necrophilia, maybe...  Had to find a slightly DIFFERENT way to be insulting.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on September 05, 2011, 11:13:04 AM
Coal industry lawyers may not technically qualify as wingnuts per se, but...


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mining-linked-birth-defects-coal-industry-blames-inbreeding-20110712

QuoteA few weeks ago, we posted about a new study linking mountaintop removal coal mining with increased incidence of birth defects.  The study by researchers at West Virginia University examined two million health records in Appalachia and concluded that kids born near mountaintop mining operations suffered higher rates of a variety of central nervous system, musculoskeletal, urogenital and circulatory and respiratory problems.

Well, over at Coal Tattoo, Ken Ward Jr. unearthed an internet posting from a group of coal industry lawyers that attempts to discredit the study by charging that researchers left out a very important cause of birth defects in Appalachia: consanguinity.  Which is a fancy term for inbreeding.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 09, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
"Hoffa Represents "Useless" Workers Like "Kindergarten Teachers" Instead Of "Men Who Have Actual Jobs"

-Ann Coulter
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 09, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
That god awful woman makes me feel guilty by association just for being REGISTERED republican.

I'd be willing to bet her vagina has teeth.

Hoffa calling for a war with the teabaggers was a bit over the top considering all of the "the rhetoric is overcharged" talk from the democrats. 

And while a direct correlation can't be drawn between what he said and what happened at the Longview port in Washington, I don't think it can be dimissed out of hand.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/8925-longshoremen-international-union-breaches-port-of-longview

And they were pissed because another union got the contract through a private firm.  That's how you eat your own.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2011, 12:24:45 AM
I swear, I don't even know where to start with this one.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/concerned-women-america-real-feminism-serving-your-husband
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 13, 2011, 12:28:32 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 13, 2011, 12:24:45 AM
I swear, I don't even know where to start with this one.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/concerned-women-america-real-feminism-serving-your-husband

Why is Beverly LaHaye being an activist instead of staying home and peeling grapes for her wingnut husband?   :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 13, 2011, 12:33:16 AM
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2011, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 13, 2011, 12:28:32 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 13, 2011, 12:24:45 AM
I swear, I don't even know where to start with this one.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/concerned-women-america-real-feminism-serving-your-husband

Why is Beverly LaHaye being an activist instead of staying home and peeling grapes for her wingnut husband?   :?

She doesn't mean HER, of course.  None of the wingnuts fine, upstanding dingbats ladies of the GoP that do the bullshit fine work of activism mean it should apply to THEM.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 14, 2011, 03:30:26 AM
STOP THE PRESSES!  SCANDAL!  HORRORS!

The President...  He...  It's awful.  It's...  Thank GOD Fox News caught him!  He...  He...

He USED A BINDER CLIP!

I shit you not.  Fox is having a seizure because Obama used a binder clip.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/fox-obama-binder-clip
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on September 14, 2011, 01:09:05 PM
Fox News questions whether poor Americans exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWpz9NQipp0

Apparently, if you own a refrigerator, a microwave, and a coffee maker, then you can't be poor.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 19, 2011, 11:23:17 PM
Okay, this one goes right out the other end of stupid.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/19/322405/gop-rep-whines-400k/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on September 20, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
Unfortunately, gaffes like that won't faze the folks putting fuckers like that Hines in power.  They EXPECT that sort of whine and probably think he's entitled to it.  They figure, when they make HIS millions, one day, when their ship comes in, they'll feel the same damned way!

I'm telling you, the Tea Bagger Folks really don't GET this shit.  They just refuse to see those forests for the trees.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 20, 2011, 01:25:30 AM
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
― John Steinbeck
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on September 20, 2011, 01:30:29 AM
EXACTAMUNDO!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Suu on September 21, 2011, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 20, 2011, 01:25:30 AM
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."
― John Steinbeck

A legend among mice and men, that John Steinbeck, was.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: PopeTom on September 22, 2011, 12:09:21 AM
I'd feel better about most people seeing themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires if it didn't seem like most people's plan to become millionaires was 'win the lottery'.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BadBeast on September 27, 2011, 01:50:53 PM
Liam Gallagher  fails to understand the appeal of Radiohead.
"I mean we've all written songs like Creep, y'know, them classic songs. Karma Police is alright, but it's The Beatles, innit?"  he said.
Okay Liam.  :fap:  (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/smileys/tyra.gif)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 28, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/09/bev-perdue-congressional-elections-/1?csp=34news

Quote"I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won't hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that," Perdue is quoted as saying. "You want people who don't worry about the next election."

Ok, I understand her reasoning, but that's the worst idea I've heard.

Also, Peter Orszag write in The New Republic that what we really need is less democracy, so government can get on with the business of governing.  He recommends automatic policies and decisions made by unelected committee's of "experts" rather than congressmen.

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/94940/peter-orszag-democracy

I don't have a subscription, so I can't read the full article, but that's seems to me like a really bad idea as well.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 04, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Hank Williams Jr's obnoxious ass is getting booted from ESPN Monday Night Football.

Why?

Because he said that Obama golfing with Boehner is like Hitler hitting the links with Netanyahu.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on October 04, 2011, 06:56:48 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 04, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Hank Williams Jr's obnoxious ass is getting booted from ESPN Monday Night Football.

Why?

Because he said that Obama golfing with Boehner is like Hitler hitting the links with Netanyahu.

I KNEW I HEARD HITLER'S NAME ON THE SPORT'S CHANNEL AT THE BAR!  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 04, 2011, 03:12:09 PM
Here is a link to the video of Hank Williams Jr. on Fox & Friends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eF6vCv13bw  His hamfisted comparison of Obama to Hitler wasn't the worst part of it.  To me, the worst thing was his belief that Republicans and Democrats should treat each other as warring enemies and should never try to seek common ground.

Watch the video, and then think about the fact that this man is considering running for the Tennessee senate in 2012. 

FUCK YEAH!  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2011, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 04, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Hank Williams Jr's obnoxious ass is getting booted from ESPN Monday Night Football.

Why?

Because he said that Obama golfing with Boehner is like Hitler hitting the links with Netanyahu.

I knew he went whacko, because his career ended.

NOBODY beats the republican curse.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 05, 2011, 12:40:58 AM
The Tea Party has come to the defence of Hank Jr:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-nation-urges-monday-night-football-boycott-backs-hank-williams-senate

QuoteNo Hank, no Monday Night Football, ESPN, owned by far left leaning Disney struck back at Hank Williams today, taking his trademark, "Are you ready for some football?" song off fo [sic] the opening of Monday night football.

    Why? Williams dared to insult Disney darling Obama.

    ...

    Earlier this year, ESPN reprimanded Golf commentator Paul Azinger for an anti-Obama tweet.

    From USA Today in August:

    UPDATE: ESPN is coming down on Paul Azinger for mocking President Obama on Twitter. The golf analyst tweeted Thursday the commander in chief plays more golf than he does -- and that Azinger has created more jobs this month than Obama has.

    ...

    As much as I love sports, I have just about had it with ESPN. Until Hank Williams is brought back to sing the intro to MNF, I won't watch it and I encourage everyone else to turn off MNF.

    Hank Williams, Jr. is rumored to be thinking about running for the US Senate in Tennessee. As a Tennessean, all I can say is, "Run Hank Run!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 05, 2011, 04:42:05 PM
Are you ready for some BOYCOTTS?

I can't think of anything Junior said that many tea partiers would disagree with, including the part where he referred to Obama and Biden as "The Three Stooges".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on October 05, 2011, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 04, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Hank Williams Jr's obnoxious ass is getting booted from ESPN Monday Night Football.

Why?

Because he said that Obama golfing with Boehner is like Hitler hitting the links with Netanyahu.

I'd love to see that  (Hitler and Netanyahu golfing together)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 06, 2011, 06:54:36 AM
Quote from: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 04, 2011, 03:12:09 PM
Here is a link to the video of Hank Williams Jr. on Fox & Friends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eF6vCv13bw  His hamfisted comparison of Obama to Hitler wasn't the worst part of it.  To me, the worst thing was his belief that Republicans and Democrats should treat each other as warring enemies and should never try to seek common ground.

Watch the video, and then think about the fact that this man FELL OFF A MOUNTAIN AND MASHED ALL HIS BRAINS INTO A CORNER OF HIS SKULL and is considering running for the Tennessee senate in 2012. 

FUCK YEAH!  :horrormirth:

FTFY  :wink:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 06, 2011, 01:24:29 PM
It would make me smile if Fox News were to make Hank Williams Jr. a regular commentator.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 06, 2011, 03:32:31 PM
I have a feeling you might be back here soon saying "I called it!"

Either him or Ted Nugent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BomWbtXWbA8&NR=1
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 06, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 06, 2011, 03:32:31 PM
I have a feeling you might be back here soon saying "I called it!"

Either him or Ted Nugent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BomWbtXWbA8&NR=1
I could see that happening also, but it wouldn't be nearly as funny to me because Ted Nugent is coherent-ish.

ETA -ish
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 06, 2011, 08:26:59 PM
I think you are underestimating how badly Hank Williams Jr's First Ammendment rights to say whatever he pleases with no consequences whatsoever have been brutally stripped from him (http://www.hankjr.com/home/203-hank-jr-reacts-to-being-pulled-from-espn-from-the-oct-3rd-monday-night-game-opener):

QuoteAfter reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision. By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment
Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run

It quite clearly says in the Constitution that no-one, anywhere, shall be able to anything about anybody because they said something.  In that flowery, 18th century English they used back then, of course.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on October 06, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: Precious Moments Zalgo on October 04, 2011, 03:12:09 PM
To me, the worst thing was his belief that Republicans and Democrats should treat each other as warring enemies and should never try to seek common ground.

If the two major parties (and their assorted mouthpieces) didn't promote themselves as warring factions, it might become obvious just how much common ground they do have, and how little of that common ground benefits average Americans.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: PopeTom on October 06, 2011, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 06, 2011, 03:32:31 PM

Either him or Ted Nugent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BomWbtXWbA8&NR=1

They should both be Fox commentators.
They can have their own show called Hank and Ted's Tea Bag Double Dip
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: PopeTom on October 06, 2011, 08:46:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 06, 2011, 08:26:59 PM
I think you are underestimating how badly Hank Williams Jr's First Ammendment rights to say whatever he pleases with no consequences whatsoever have been brutally stripped from him (http://www.hankjr.com/home/203-hank-jr-reacts-to-being-pulled-from-espn-from-the-oct-3rd-monday-night-game-opener):

QuoteAfter reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision. By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment
Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run

It quite clearly says in the Constitution that no-one, anywhere, shall be able to anything about anybody because they said something.  In that flowery, 18th century English they used back then, of course.

The awesome thing is if you asked him his opinion of birth control/abortion and if it should be paid for by government funds somewhere in his response he'd probably use the words 'actions have consequences'.  

EDIT: Rewrite the end of that sentence.  
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 06, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 06, 2011, 08:26:59 PM
I think you are underestimating how badly Hank Williams Jr's First Ammendment rights to say whatever he pleases with no consequences whatsoever have been brutally stripped from him (http://www.hankjr.com/home/203-hank-jr-reacts-to-being-pulled-from-espn-from-the-oct-3rd-monday-night-game-opener):

QuoteAfter reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision. By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment
Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run

It quite clearly says in the Constitution that no-one, anywhere, shall be able to anything about anybody because they said something.  In that flowery, 18th century English they used back then, of course.

There was that bit in there that says that people are obligated to not only LISTEN to whatever idiocy falls out of the mouths of morons, but that private parties and companies are legally obligated to broadcast it to EVERYBODY. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 08, 2011, 12:30:38 PM
This just in...  Obama's jobs bill is a gift to gays, and an attack on marriage.

Fucking Texas.

QuoteTexas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert took to the floor of the House on Tuesday with a conspiracy theory — that President Obama's jobs bill is actually part of his plan to destroy marriage.

"This president, by virtue of the power to tax, the power to destroy, takes a shot at traditional conventional marriage," Gohmert claims.

Gohmert alleges that tax credits under the president's plan would favor couples who live together but aren't married.

"This may be something nice he's throwing out for gay folks that are living together so he can tell them actually you are better off not getting married because there is a marriage penalty here," Gohmert claimed.

He then goes off on a tangent in which he claims the founding fathers had expressed an opinion on same-sex marriage.

"Of course, the founders they all understood marriage to be between a man and a woman, that's just the way the history of the country has been," he said.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/10/06/Gohmert_Conspiracy_Theory_Obama_Jobs_Bill_Is_Gift_to_Gays/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on October 08, 2011, 01:50:14 PM
First he let them in our Military and now he wants them to have our jerbs!!!!!
       \
:redneck2:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 08, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
Wasn't the "institution of marriage" destroyed by a bunch of drunk trailer trash anyway? I mean they get married every time they fucl somebody...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Rev on October 08, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
The main issue with gay marriage to those people is it goes against breeding little slaves they can manipulate to do their bidding.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 09, 2011, 12:14:37 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 08, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
Wasn't the "institution of marriage" destroyed by a bunch of drunk trailer trash anyway? I mean they get married every time they fucl somebody...

I dunno about THEM, but MY marriage was destroyed by infidelity...  Hey, how 'bout they do something about THAT.  After all, none of those fine, upstanding GoP politicians would cheat on their...

Oh, wait.

Nevermind.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 09, 2011, 12:56:02 AM
Hoggamus higgamus, twas ever thus.
So why the fuck do these people swear in churches that it's never gonna happen?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 10, 2011, 02:41:14 PM
Damn.

QuoteRep. Peter King (R-NY) is upset at the growing movement and the media's coverage of it, hoping that a modern day version of protests from five decades ago isn't being recaptured now.

"It's really important for us not to give any legitimacy to these people in the streets," said King on Laura Ingraham's radio show Friday evening. "I remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can't allow that to happen."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/09/gop-rep-we-cant-allow-more-coverage-of-occupy-wall-street/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 10, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Yeah, a picture of this guy captioned with that has been passed around Facebook. Charming, isn't it?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 10, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Luna on October 10, 2011, 02:41:14 PM
Damn.

QuoteRep. Peter King (R-NY) is upset at the growing movement and the media's coverage of it, hoping that a modern day version of protests from five decades ago isn't being recaptured now.

"It's really important for us not to give any legitimacy to these people in the streets," said King on Laura Ingraham's radio show Friday evening. "I remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can't allow that to happen."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/09/gop-rep-we-cant-allow-more-coverage-of-occupy-wall-street/

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 10, 2011, 04:34:30 PM
Yeah, those radical leftists helped pass the Civil Rights Act and end the Vietnam War.  How terrible!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on October 10, 2011, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 10, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Yeah, a picture of this guy captioned with that has been passed around Facebook. Charming, isn't it?
I did a GIS to look for the pic that you mention, (unsuccessfully) and as a professional physiognomist, i can certify by virtue of his mug, that this guy is a complete tool.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv4FKCRkypARadyjGD2NpeDIC6zBD6391DIUBhYI5hQd5BZAQOXIHOiqy7)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 10, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314627_270569076308928_137375766294927_901248_1555844102_n.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on October 10, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
I didn't notice he said WHAT got reformed. :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
Peter King says all kinds of fun things.

Google his quotes.  He's a charmer.  He's sort of the Bill Frist of this decade, only with even less brains and more evil.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Triple Zero on October 10, 2011, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 10, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314627_270569076308928_137375766294927_901248_1555844102_n.jpg)

I was hoping to re-do this in a font that is easier to read and without all the "he said" crap in between:

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/781/kingv.jpg)

But I'm not sure if it really got much better.


"We have to be careful not to allow this to get any legitimacy. I'm taking this seriously in that I'm old enough to remember what happened in the 60s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can't allow that to happen."

US Congressman Peter King on the Occupy Wallstreet movement

YOU HEARD HIM! DON'T QUIT!



Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2011, 05:33:01 PM
Well, we can't have The People interfering in the business of The People, can we?

That just lets the terrorists win.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 10, 2011, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2011, 05:20:02 PM
Peter King says all kinds of fun things.

Google his quotes.  He's a charmer.  He's sort of the Bill Frist of this decade, only with even less brains and more evil.

I can't even...

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/peter-king-hearings-quotes-5376775
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2011, 05:49:03 PM
"They're a threat to America. A threat to our babies."

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 10, 2011, 05:50:49 PM
The best part is when you realise a man who use to fundraise for the IRA and was considered a security risk by Reagan's Secret Service is chairing a committee into investigating Muslim terrorism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 10, 2011, 06:00:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 10, 2011, 05:50:49 PM
The best part is when you realise a man who use to fundraise for the IRA and was considered a security risk by Reagan's Secret Service is chairing a committee into investigating Muslim terrorism.

Funny how that works out, yes?

"I'm not constantly under fear of the government because I have nothing to hide."
- Peter King

"If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear"
- Ronald Reagan
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 10, 2011, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 10, 2011, 05:50:49 PM
The best part is when you realise a man who use to fundraise for the IRA and was considered a security risk by Reagan's Secret Service is chairing a committee into investigating Muslim terrorism.

:spittake:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 10, 2011, 07:13:42 PM
Bryan Fischer at the Values Voter Summit...
Quote"I submit to you that not a single one of our unalienable rights will be safe," Fischer said, "in the hands of a president who believes that we evolved from slime and that we are the descendents of apes and baboons." Fischer called the separation of church and state "mythical"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-rights-endangered-if-president-believes-evolution

Damn.

Edited to unbork quote
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: deadfong on October 10, 2011, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Luna on October 10, 2011, 07:13:42 PM
Bryan Fischer at the Values Voter Summit...
Quote"I submit to you that not a single one of our unalienable rights will be safe," Fischer said, "in the hands of a president who believes that we evolved from slime and that we are the descendents of apes and baboons." Fischer called the separation of church and state "mythical"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-rights-endangered-if-president-believes-evolution

Damn.

I don't think we'd have to go far back into Mr. Fischer's family tree in order to find the slime.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 11, 2011, 07:10:55 PM
Hermain Cain, clearly angling for a position as Sec-State in Romney's government:

http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/10/11/340234/herman-cain-doesnt-know-the-president-of-ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan-and-doesnt-care-either/

QuoteI'm ready for the 'gotcha' questions and they're already starting to come. And when they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I'm going to say, you know, I don't know. Do you know?

And then I'm going to say how's that going to create one job?

I would dare say Uzbekistan has created more than a few US jobs, not least among perpetually outraged human rights organizations.

Also, Uzbekistan has only had the same ruler since Reagan was in power (this may not sound terribly impressive, until you realize there was no Uzbekistan until the end of Bush I's presidency).  I mean, gosh, it's not like anyone has had much time to learn about this mysterious and unheard of figure.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
I automatically vote against anyone who uses the term "gotcha questions".

Because those people hate the idea of the press.  Also, no spine.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 13, 2011, 09:36:33 PM
Quote[M]aking concessions to Sharia law over against the moral code of the Judeo-Christian tradition is nothing new for America. We started doing it in 1619 when we began to tolerate the slave trade, as the first shipment of 30 African slaves arrived on the shores of Virginia ... The slaves who were brought here in chains in 1619 were Africans who had been kidnapped by other Africans and sold to slave traders who in turn brought them to America. The kidnappers, the ones who went into the interior of Africa to capture their fellow Africans to sell them into bondage, were predominantly Muslims.

    ...

    Now, in contrast to Islam and Sharia, the Judeo-Christian tradition from day one has been adamantly opposed to the slave trade ... Moses flatly prohibited the slave trade under penalty of death. "Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death" (Exodus 21:16). In other words, if a strictly biblical code had been followed in 1619, the slave trader who brought that ship to Virginia would have been arrested the moment he landed, prosecuted and hung by the neck until dead. The slaves on board would have been returned to their families and their homelands, and slavery would never have gained a foothold in the United States.

    But sadly, we made our first concession to Sharia law in 1619 instead of being guided by the wisdom of Scripture, and we have paid a terrible price for it. Slavery became our first national sin, as abortion is today ... So if the early colonists had followed either the Old or New Testaments, the slave trade would have been treated as criminal behavior from the very beginning, and America never would have been plagued with all the myriad evils that slavery and racism have brought to our land.
-Bryan Fischer (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-muslims-blame-american-slavery)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
I don't even know where to start on how hilariously wrong this is.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 14, 2011, 11:39:14 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/01/simpson-that-aarp-ad-is-the-most-disgusting-thing-ive-ever-seen/

Quote"Just this morning I saw that ad, that is the most disgusting ad I have ever seen." "I don't know what the people got paid, especially the actors, but I'll tell you this, I am well paid. They said, "We're 50 million, we're watching you, and we vote. That is a really ugly thing."

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 15, 2011, 12:01:19 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 14, 2011, 11:39:14 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/01/simpson-that-aarp-ad-is-the-most-disgusting-thing-ive-ever-seen/

Quote"Just this morning I saw that ad, that is the most disgusting ad I have ever seen." "I don't know what the people got paid, especially the actors, but I'll tell you this, I am well paid. They said, "We're 50 million, we're watching you, and we vote. That is a really ugly thing."



Hahaha, what? How dare they pay attention and vote!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 15, 2011, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 15, 2011, 12:01:19 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 14, 2011, 11:39:14 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/01/simpson-that-aarp-ad-is-the-most-disgusting-thing-ive-ever-seen/

Quote"Just this morning I saw that ad, that is the most disgusting ad I have ever seen." "I don't know what the people got paid, especially the actors, but I'll tell you this, I am well paid. They said, "We're 50 million, we're watching you, and we vote. That is a really ugly thing."



Hahaha, what? How dare they pay attention and vote!

I had to read that three times, AND watch the video.  It's really what he said.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 16, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
(http://besteurobets.com/forum/Smileys/default/roflmao.gif)

Quote"If there is one guy out there that is the next George Washington, the only guy that I could think of is Rick Santorum. I would ask that you would take a look at him," said Beck. He prefaced his comments by saying that he doesn't endorse candidates, make donations or get "involved in politics." He also clarified that he doesn't "trust" any of the candidates, but if he had to pick one, it would be Santorum.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/glenn-beck-rick-santorum_n_1094779.html?ref=politics
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2011, 01:28:14 AM
Hahahaa what?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 16, 2011, 12:07:27 AM
(http://besteurobets.com/forum/Smileys/default/roflmao.gif)

Quote"If there is one guy out there that is the next George Washington, the only guy that I could think of is Rick Santorum. I would ask that you would take a look at him," said Beck. He prefaced his comments by saying that he doesn't endorse candidates, make donations or get "involved in politics." He also clarified that he doesn't "trust" any of the candidates, but if he had to pick one, it would be Santorum.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/glenn-beck-rick-santorum_n_1094779.html?ref=politics

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 16, 2011, 08:08:01 PM
Reagan revisited: Congress declares pizza to be a vegetable. (http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/16/school_lunch_standards_congress_labels_pizza_as_a_vegetable.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 16, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 16, 2011, 08:08:01 PM
Reagan revisited: Congress declares pizza to be a vegetable. (http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/16/school_lunch_standards_congress_labels_pizza_as_a_vegetable.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow)

Jesus cuntfucking christ.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 16, 2011, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 16, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 16, 2011, 08:08:01 PM
Reagan revisited: Congress declares pizza to be a vegetable. (http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/16/school_lunch_standards_congress_labels_pizza_as_a_vegetable.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow)

Jesus cuntfucking christ.

Exactly.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 08:28:13 PM
WHY ARE SO MANY KIDS FAT?

IT'S A COMPLETE MYSTERY.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 16, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
SHADDAP AN EATCHER VEGGIES.

(http://morganlinton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/pizza.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 16, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
SHADDAP AN EATCHER VEGGIES.

(http://morganlinton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/pizza.jpg)

Just as soon as I finish with my beef & bacon group.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 16, 2011, 08:43:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 16, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
SHADDAP AN EATCHER VEGGIES.

(http://morganlinton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/pizza.jpg)

Just as soon as I finish with my beef & bacon group.
Bacon ON pizza.  Beer to have with.

That may be my dinner...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 16, 2011, 08:43:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 16, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
SHADDAP AN EATCHER VEGGIES.

(http://morganlinton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/pizza.jpg)

Just as soon as I finish with my beef & bacon group.
Bacon ON pizza.  Beer to have with.

That may be my dinner...

And congress is the WINNAR!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 16, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
What better way to express their devotion to St. Ronald than to do him one better and get it passed?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 16, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
This made me hungry, until I read about Roger's ass cozy in the other thread.

Appetite ROOINT.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 16, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
This made me hungry, until I read about Roger's ass cozy in the other thread.

Appetite ROOINT.

Appetite control is just another service I offer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:10:31 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 16, 2011, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 16, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
This made me hungry, until I read about Roger's ass cozy in the other thread.

Appetite ROOINT.

Appetite control is just another service I offer.

Since I started talking to Roger, I've never been thinner!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Also for some reason I am now thing about a beer-based pizza soup. I think I can make it happen, AND make it delicious! Beer-tomato-cheese base with pepperoni, roasted garlic, and basil.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 01:14:47 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Also for some reason I am now thing about a beer-based pizza soup. I think I can make it happen, AND make it delicious! Beer-tomato-cheese base with pepperoni, roasted garlic, and basil.


This sounds epic.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 17, 2011, 01:14:47 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Also for some reason I am now thing about a beer-based pizza soup. I think I can make it happen, AND make it delicious! Beer-tomato-cheese base with pepperoni, roasted garlic, and basil.


This sounds epic.

I'm going to make this for Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 17, 2011, 01:14:47 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Also for some reason I am now thing about a beer-based pizza soup. I think I can make it happen, AND make it delicious! Beer-tomato-cheese base with pepperoni, roasted garlic, and basil.


This sounds epic.

I'm going to make this for Thanksgiving.

I have discovered a recipe for these little truffle things involving Oreos.  I need to try this.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 02:05:11 AM
I don't even...

QuoteStill reeling from his botched response to a question about Libya, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel relayed another mind-boggling quote from Herman Cain during his disaster-plagued trip through Wisconsin. "I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy. Just thought I'd throw that out," Cain quipped while discussing the previous GOP debate on the subject.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/herman-cain-im-not-supposed-to-know-anything-about-foreign-policy/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 02:31:37 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 17, 2011, 02:05:11 AM
I don't even...

QuoteStill reeling from his botched response to a question about Libya, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel relayed another mind-boggling quote from Herman Cain during his disaster-plagued trip through Wisconsin. "I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy. Just thought I'd throw that out," Cain quipped while discussing the previous GOP debate on the subject.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/herman-cain-im-not-supposed-to-know-anything-about-foreign-policy/

Um

What the fuck?

How is it that the GOP keeps topping itself? Every potential candidate that emerges is more batshit than the one before. Where the hell are they finding these people?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2011, 02:38:02 AM
On the underside of tables in dive bars.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 17, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Mitt Romney is doing such a good job of keeping his head low and not making gigantic gaffs. I'm convinced that's his main strategy - just be still and let everybody else self-immolate as they scramble for attention and recognition. This guy's taking the primary, and at this point I'm willing to put money on it.

Which means I can vote for Bachmann in the primary! That's my American Dream.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
Gingrinch is surging in the polls now, while Cain is starting to falter.

That is exactly Romney's strategy.  And I'm fairly sure that if it comes down to Newt's insufferable "know-it-all" attitude versus Mittens' inconsistency, the latter will be seen as more preferable.  Sure, he's a Mormon, but that's still better than a guy who trades in his wife for a new model every five years.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
I'm extremely disturbed by the idea of a Mormon president. Eeeeek.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 17, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
I think out of the current crop of front-runners, he is probably the least disturbing. I mean, compared to Gingrich or Cain, he is the very model of sanity and responsible government.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
I'm extremely disturbed by the idea of a Mormon president. Eeeeek.

I'm less disturbed by that than the fact that the GoP is seriously putting forward a candidate who would transport his Irish Setter in a crate strapped to the roof of his car for a 12 hour trip.

You can tell a lot about someone by how they treat pets.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/dog.asp
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 17, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 17, 2011, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 17, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
I'm extremely disturbed by the idea of a Mormon president. Eeeeek.

I'm less disturbed by that than the fact that the GoP is seriously putting forward a candidate who would transport his Irish Setter in a crate strapped to the roof of his car for a 12 hour trip.

You can tell a lot about someone by how they treat pets.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/dog.asp

That's pretty fucking weird. No wonder the dog shat itself, it was probably totally stressed out.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 10:11:03 PM
Okay, they're trolling.  The whole GoP has GOT to be trolling, right?  RIGHT?   :horrormirth:

QuoteOn Tuesday, Rick Perry outlined a plan to change the nature of government that is the first step in transforming America into the conservative's ideal  so it can eventually be disbanded and sold to the highest bidder. Perry gave a speech in Iowa where he outlined his plan to "Uproot and Overhaul Washington" and replace it by throwing out the Constitution.  The Texas governor's speech targeted all three branches of government and his three-part plan would require either Constitutional amendments or absolute power in the hands of a dictator (presumably Rick Perry).

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-unconstitutional-plan

Look at this shit.  The speech is here:    CRAZY HERE (http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/15/text-perrys-uproot-and-overhaul-washington-speech/)  Some highlights:

QuotePart one of my plan is to reform the federal judiciary by ending life terms for unelected federal judges. Too many federal judges rule with impunity from the bench, and those who legislate from the bench should not be entitled to lifetime abuse of their judicial authority.
(Hey, diptwat, how exactly are you going to do that?  That WILL require a Constitutional amendment which, I believe, the President doesn't just get to dash off on his lunch break...)

QuoteCongress is out of touch because Congressmen are overpaid, over-staffed and away from home too much. Americans have had enough.
It's time to create a part-time Congress where their pay is cut in half, their office budgets are cut in half, and their time in Washington is cut in half.
(They apparently can't do their goddamn jobs full-time, how are they supposed to do it part-time?

QuoteWe will privatize Fannie and Freddie so politicians can no longer politicize them, and taxpayers will no longer be fleeced by them.
(Yeah, because companies would NEVER fleece their customers to stuff the pockets of stockholders, right?)

QuoteAnd lastly, we will put a permanent stop to federal funding of Planned Parenthood because our tax dollars should never be used in taking an innocent, unborn life.
Gotta get that nod in to the GoP War on Women, right?

QuoteWe will eliminate agencies that perform redundant functions. I will get rid of the Commerce Department, the Department of Education, and the Department of Energy.

The stupid goes on, and on...

ETA: Unborked quotes
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 17, 2011, 11:11:03 PM
Maybe we should stop funding Planned Pushingupdaisieshood too. But innocent people are never executed are they?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2011, 11:37:42 PM
Christ almighty. So much for protecting and defending the Constitution (not that anyone has been doing that for a long time, but still).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 17, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 17, 2011, 11:37:42 PM
Christ almighty. So much for protecting and defending the Constitution (not that anyone has been doing that for a long time, but still).

Really, he could have saved time by bringing a copy out onto the stage and just taking a dump on it right there.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 17, 2011, 11:53:37 PM
They probably would have cheered him on, too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 18, 2011, 12:36:01 AM
Eh hes just afraid of justices doing their job i guess.

Legislating from the benches is shorthand for "im butthurt over the idea of monogamous gays signing a contract and non-whites not being used as decorations for the town christmas tree."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: deadfong on November 18, 2011, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 17, 2011, 10:11:03 PM

QuoteCongress is out of touch because Congressmen are overpaid, over-staffed and away from home too much. Americans have had enough.
It's time to create a part-time Congress where their pay is cut in half, their office budgets are cut in half, and their time in Washington is cut in half.
(They apparently can't do their goddamn jobs full-time, how are they supposed to do it part-time?

He must be basing this on Texas-style governance, in which the legislature only meets for four or five months every other year.  Because Texas government has worked so well for Texans, you know.  It's the goddamn Texas Miracle!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 18, 2011, 02:17:11 PM
Oddly enough, congress used to go home quite a bit in the past, as they were concerned about properly reflecting the community's needs.  Now, with the combinaton of perpetual campaigning, the need of money for such, and the massive amount of cash DC lobbyists fling around, they stay in DC to get funds for re-election. 

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: deadfong on November 18, 2011, 03:43:10 PM
I imagine actually cutting their pay in half would just drive them to the lobbyists even more.  And by cutting their working hours in half, they'd have more time to devote to the lobbyists!  It's a win-win!

Except for, uh, the people, that is.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 18, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
Right now, they don't even have time to read the bills they're voting on, so the best thing to do is give them less.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on November 18, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
Ha ha.  He's still Dumber-than-Dubya. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2011, 04:50:12 PM
Cutting their pay in half is even more insidious than the lobbyist thing, because it basically ensures no working or middle class American will be able to earn enough in office to make it worth their time.  It will become the preserve of the independently wealthy...we tried that in the UK, once.  In the 1700s.  Didn't turn out too well.

It also makes actual corruption, well beyond the legal gray zone of what lobbyists do, a certainty.  Least corrupt elected officials in the world?  Those in Singapore.  Highest paid?  Those in Singapore.  If you want to make a position uncorruptable, you have to offer a better deal than anyone else, while punishing the shit out of anyone stupid enough to try and take advantage of their position.  Incentives are everything.  If you're pulling down great pay already, even if you're an amoral sociopath, you're going to think twice about trying to get more through illegal means, because it simply isn't worth the risk.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 18, 2011, 04:52:24 PM
Speaking of corruption, I was just reminded of a thread I wanted to start...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 18, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Jesus fuck.

Quote"Saying it's OK to choose is the same thing as saying it's OK for Hitler to choose," says a fresh-faced young man. He's talking about choosing an abortion in "180," a 33-minute movie comparing legalized abortion to the Holocaust that has so far gotten over 1.5 million hits on YouTube, thanks in part to heavy distribution by fertilized-eggs-as-people promulgators Personhood USA.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/153115/new_low_for_right-wing_anti-choicers_--_exploiting_the_holocaust_to_push_anti-abortion_propaganda?page=entire
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2011, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Jesus fuck.

Quote"Saying it's OK to choose is the same thing as saying it's OK for Hitler to choose," says a fresh-faced young man. He's talking about choosing an abortion in "180," a 33-minute movie comparing legalized abortion to the Holocaust that has so far gotten over 1.5 million hits on YouTube, thanks in part to heavy distribution by fertilized-eggs-as-people promulgators Personhood USA.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/153115/new_low_for_right-wing_anti-choicers_--_exploiting_the_holocaust_to_push_anti-abortion_propaganda?page=entire

Everytime a man has sex, he kills MILLIONS of gametes.

Who says a gamete has to become a zygote before it counts?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 18, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2011, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Jesus fuck.

Quote"Saying it's OK to choose is the same thing as saying it's OK for Hitler to choose," says a fresh-faced young man. He's talking about choosing an abortion in "180," a 33-minute movie comparing legalized abortion to the Holocaust that has so far gotten over 1.5 million hits on YouTube, thanks in part to heavy distribution by fertilized-eggs-as-people promulgators Personhood USA.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/153115/new_low_for_right-wing_anti-choicers_--_exploiting_the_holocaust_to_push_anti-abortion_propaganda?page=entire

Everytime a man has sex, he kills MILLIONS of gametes.

Who says a gamete has to become a zygote before it counts?


Every time a man faps, he needlessly murders millions of gametes.  On purpose.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2011, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Jesus fuck.

Quote"Saying it's OK to choose is the same thing as saying it's OK for Hitler to choose," says a fresh-faced young man. He's talking about choosing an abortion in "180," a 33-minute movie comparing legalized abortion to the Holocaust that has so far gotten over 1.5 million hits on YouTube, thanks in part to heavy distribution by fertilized-eggs-as-people promulgators Personhood USA.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/153115/new_low_for_right-wing_anti-choicers_--_exploiting_the_holocaust_to_push_anti-abortion_propaganda?page=entire

Everytime a man has sex, he kills MILLIONS of gametes.

Who says a gamete has to become a zygote before it counts?


Every time a man faps, he needlessly murders millions of gametes.  On purpose.

Allowing men to make that choice is like allowing Hitler to make a choice.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 19, 2011, 12:22:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel on November 19, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2011, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 18, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
Jesus fuck.

Quote"Saying it's OK to choose is the same thing as saying it's OK for Hitler to choose," says a fresh-faced young man. He's talking about choosing an abortion in "180," a 33-minute movie comparing legalized abortion to the Holocaust that has so far gotten over 1.5 million hits on YouTube, thanks in part to heavy distribution by fertilized-eggs-as-people promulgators Personhood USA.

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/153115/new_low_for_right-wing_anti-choicers_--_exploiting_the_holocaust_to_push_anti-abortion_propaganda?page=entire

Everytime a man has sex, he kills MILLIONS of gametes.

Who says a gamete has to become a zygote before it counts?


Every time a man faps, he needlessly murders millions of gametes.  On purpose.

Allowing men to make that choice is like allowing Hitler to make a choice.

"Tell ya what, sport.  You get to make THAT decision for ME right after I get to decide when, where, and how your vasectomy happens.  I have a pocket knife, right here..."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 19, 2011, 12:32:47 AM
:x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 19, 2011, 04:27:56 AM
 :lulz:

http://wonkette.com/456682/insane-anonymous-internet-racist-turns-out-to-be-florida-gop-politician

The link title kinda says it all...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 19, 2011, 04:42:37 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 19, 2011, 04:27:56 AM
:lulz:

http://wonkette.com/456682/insane-anonymous-internet-racist-turns-out-to-be-florida-gop-politician

The link title kinda says it all...

:lulz: Holy shit

aren't the GOP also busy trying to push through a bill that would strip people of anonymity online?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 19, 2011, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 19, 2011, 04:42:37 AM
Quote from: Luna on November 19, 2011, 04:27:56 AM
:lulz:

http://wonkette.com/456682/insane-anonymous-internet-racist-turns-out-to-be-florida-gop-politician

The link title kinda says it all...

:lulz: Holy shit

aren't the GOP also busy trying to push through a bill that would strip people of anonymity online?

Beautiful, isn't it?

This morning's bit of  :horrormirth:

QuoteDuring a town hall meeting in Ottumwa, Iowa Friday afternoon, Rick Santorum argued that Americans receive too many government benefits and ought to "suffer" in the Christian tradition. If "you're lower income, you can qualify for Medicaid, you can qualify for food stamps, you can qualify for housing assistance," Santorum complained, before adding, "suffering is part of life and it's not a bad thing, it is an essential thing in life."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on November 19, 2011, 04:44:25 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/11/18/372676/rick-womick-muslims-can-go-back-to-where-they-came-from/

QuoteHaving drawn condemnation from both Muslim community organizations and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) for his call to purge Muslims from the U.S. military, Tennessee State Rep. Rick Womick (R-Mufreesboro) decided to double-down on his anti-Muslim message in an interview with the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer.

Womick told Fischer that unless the Muslim community "gets its act together" on Shariah, "they can go back to where they came from."

The comments, reported by RightWingWatch.org, would indicate that Womick is rejecting the ADL's call to repudiate his "shameful, deeply disturbing" remarks.

Womick attempted to clarify the remarks he made to ThinkProgress on Veterans Day but only seemed to dig himself in deeper. He said:

    WOMICK: My point is, this is my opinion, this is what they asked me, that day on Veterans Day. 'What do you do about it?' [I said] well, I can't tell who the good Muslim is and who the bad Muslim is. And political correctness is not working. What choice do I have? My solution is, and I guarantee you this will work, you don't let any Muslims serve in the military. You force the Muslim community to get its act together and clean its house and step up and speak out against Shariah law or they're not a part of not only our military but since they want [inaudible] on our constitution, they can go back to where they came from.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: wudgar on November 19, 2011, 11:24:49 PM
I find myself missing Hunter Thompson more and more. We could use someone of his caliber, able to publicly call out these vermin and abuse them in print and in person. The dregs of society that we call politicians today would drive him into a rabid, frothing at the mouth kind of fury. One that would bring forth a deluge of vicious verbal attacks and caustic articles, forcing the extreme right to flee before his unceasing ridicule.

Yeah... that would be funny as hell.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 20, 2011, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 19, 2011, 04:44:25 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/11/18/372676/rick-womick-muslims-can-go-back-to-where-they-came-from/

QuoteHaving drawn condemnation from both Muslim community organizations and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) for his call to purge Muslims from the U.S. military, Tennessee State Rep. Rick Womick (R-Mufreesboro) decided to double-down on his anti-Muslim message in an interview with the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer.

Womick told Fischer that unless the Muslim community "gets its act together" on Shariah, "they can go back to where they came from."

The comments, reported by RightWingWatch.org, would indicate that Womick is rejecting the ADL's call to repudiate his "shameful, deeply disturbing" remarks.

Womick attempted to clarify the remarks he made to ThinkProgress on Veterans Day but only seemed to dig himself in deeper. He said:

    WOMICK: My point is, this is my opinion, this is what they asked me, that day on Veterans Day. 'What do you do about it?' [I said] well, I can't tell who the good Muslim is and who the bad Muslim is. And political correctness is not working. What choice do I have? My solution is, and I guarantee you this will work, you don't let any Muslims serve in the military. You force the Muslim community to get its act together and clean its house and step up and speak out against Shariah law or they're not a part of not only our military but since they want [inaudible] on our constitution, they can go back to where they came from.


That's a big, big rock he lives under.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on November 20, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
Yes it is, and there are a lot of people under that rock with him.


rutherfordreader.com/fullpaper.asp?NextPage=yes&Pagenum=02

QuoteIn defense of Rick Womick

Rick Womick is a rare breed of character in the political world – a
bright, honest and articulate man, filled with compassion and desire to
do right by all his constituents, regardless of race, creed, color, or religion.
I have never in my life known a person so dedicated to doing
what he feels in his heart, and in his spirit, is the right thing to do.
I met Rick during the 2008 Tennessee House Republican Primary, as
we were both campaigning to unseat incumbent Kent Coleman. Unlike
most political races of the modern era, our race was never mean spirited
or hurtful; we focused on ideas, beliefs, and what each of us
believed was the best agenda for our community and our state. I lost
that race, but our community won, because two years later Rick went on to win that seat in
the 49th District, and he has served with great distinction ever since.
Recently, some radical members of our community have called for Rick to step down. He
hasn't broken any law, he hasn't even been accused of wrong-doing, and there hasn't been
any accusations of any merit made against him. So "why do they want him to step down"
you may be asking yourselves? Answer: because a select few people don't like or agree with
what he believes. To these radical misfits, I have a simple answer: it's called democracy. It's
who we are, our way of life and what we as a people stand for. It's the reason brave soldiers
stormed the beaches of Normandy in 1944. It's why we fought battles at Bunker Hill,
Lexington, Shiloh and Gettysburg. If Sbenaty and others have a problem with democracy,
it's because they may not yet fully grasp what it means. It's a freedom paid for with the
blood of our ancestors, men and women from every race, from all walks of life and social
class, who sacrificed so that we can today hold differences of opinion. It may not mean much
to some, but it does to me!
I thank God we live in a country where a person is free to believe as he/she chooses, worship
as he/she chooses and live their life as they see fit without fear of retaliation or threat.
This is freedom, my friends. We must not ever let it be trod upon. I may not agree with Rick
on every single issue, but I respect his right to view issues as he sees fit, and I will staunchly
defend his right to express his view, just as Rick has done for each and every member of
this community countless times as a revered veteran of our armed forces. Above all, Rick is
a good, honest and decent man, a beloved member of this community, and I feel blessed and
honored to call him my representative.
In fact, I 'll go so far as to say this: the question isn't whether Rick Womick deserves to
serve us, his constituents . . . the question is whether we as his constituents deserve a capable,
virtuous leader like Rick Womick representing us. If we permit people like Saleh
Sbenaty, who has no vested interest in this community other than furthering his own personal
agenda, to besmirch this community and its elected officials, then no, perhaps we
don't. Friends, we need Rick Womick!


rutherfordreader.com/fullpaper.asp?NextPage=yes&Pagenum=03

Quote
Intimidation won't
work here


Representative Rick Womick is not
only a man of conviction and courage
by serving his country as a fighter
pilot, but also as an elected official
serving the State of Tennessee.
At the Constitution or Sharia
Conference last Friday in Madison,
Rep. Womick said as part of his
address to the more than 500 in attendance,
the following: "muslims
should not be allowed in our military.,
you cannot trust them."
As long as we are at war with muslims, I have to agree.
A few examples that support Rep. Womick are (1) 2009
shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas; 13 dead, many
more wounded. The murderer... muslim Nidal Malik
Hasan; (2) 2009 - Little Rock Arkansas, muslim Abdul
Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, shot and killed a soldier
and wounded another; (3) 2011 two American muslims
arrested for conspiring to kill U.S. troops at a military
center; (4) 2011 - Naser Abdo, muslim, arrested for bomb
plot, his 52 year old father was deported for soliciting a
minor.
U.S. Senator Bill Nelson has rejected a contribution
from a man associated with CAIR, Council on American-
Islamic Relations, a muslim group. CAIR has been
accused in the past of links to radical organizations created
to support the terrorist group Hamas. We need more
elected officials like Womick and Nelson.
The local daily newspaper has become the local muslims'
mouthpiece. Last Sunday's issue had about 1/2 to a
full page including a large picture of Rep. Womick. As
always, they call on Saleh Sbenaty, the muslim "victims"
spokesperson, wimpedly regurgitated the vandalism
(sprayed sign), the burning of all that heavy equipment (1
piece) and more. Sbenaty rambled about Womick, saying
that he is as extreme as al-Qaeda, harming the community
and the interest of the United States. What a joke this
man is. Is he trying to portray himself as an American
Patriot?
Has Saleh Sbenaty served in our military, he has been
here at least 30 years? I would say he had time to. He is a
professor at MTSU and faculty advisor to MSA (muslim
student association) which falls under the Muslim
Brotherhood and CAIR which is also under the
Brotherhood. Their groups are funded largely by Saudi
Arabia. And Saleh has the nerve to attack Rep. Womick.
The Muslim Brotherhood continues to influence the
MSA groups with chapters across the U.S. Some members
have followed Abdullah Azzam, a muslim brother who
was Osama bin Laden's mentor. Anwar al-Awlaki was
president of the MSA at Colorado State University, where
he graduated in 1994. Ali Asad Chandia, was president of
the MSA at Montgomery College in 1998 and '99. There is
a lot more, you can research it. It's the company you keep
that influences your behavior and agenda.
What muslims are doing across the nation is finding
what some rightfully are calling, "useful idiots" to run
interference such as government officials. The local
mosque is but one example.
I'm tired of the muslim's demands, Americans are not
their second class citizens and will never be.
You never see a full page in the DNJ with Sbenaty
denouncing the burning of churches and killings of
Christians around the world on a daily and weekly basis
by muslims. And you want to build a 52,000 sq. ft. Islamic
Center and mosque in this county?
I'd like to have the list of the reps and senators who do
not publicly support Representative Rick Womick.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 20, 2011, 11:42:34 AM
The Birther Queen is back.

Orly Taitz has filed a complaint in New Hampshire to remove Obama from the presidential ballot, challenging his citizenship. 

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293101/birther-challenges-obama
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 20, 2011, 03:40:45 PM
A whole grab-bag of GoP stupid.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/11/19/372875/santorum-our-country-will-fall-as-a-result-of-same-sex-marriage/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 20, 2011, 04:52:23 PM
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/10/27/scientists-scamming-america/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 20, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
I think that a huge part of the problem is that there are a lot of people out there who have inferiority complexes because they're not very educated, and many of them are also not very bright. These people feel threatened by people who are intelligent and educated, so when someone approaches them with rhetoric like "it's all a big scam!" they are quick to grab hold of it, even if it's completely illogical and self-defeating. They can then parrot nonsensical lines like "Only scientists review scientists, they're all in cahoots" and it gives them something to feel superior about. Same reason religions (and Dawkins atheism) are so popular.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on November 20, 2011, 06:59:02 PM
"Financual."

Jesus christ. :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: moose on November 20, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
I try to ignore the insane until they're either immanently dangerous or just really amusing. But yeah, the anti-intellectual and anti-scientific tendencies in the USA can be pretty disappointing, especially considering how many other countries are not encountering these problems. Canada's looking mighty sexy from here.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on November 21, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 20, 2011, 11:42:34 AM
The Birther Queen is back.

Orly Taitz has filed a complaint in New Hampshire to remove Obama from the presidential ballot, challenging his citizenship. 

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293101/birther-challenges-obama

Y'know.. I just realized that she's getting a shitload of money from someone to pull these media stunts in which a small % of her fee is funneled into frivolous motions, and contempt of court charges (which if the court knew of in advance would constitute ???.. not bribery exactly).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 21, 2011, 09:00:05 PM
Quote from: moose on November 20, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
I try to ignore the insane until they're either immanently dangerous or just really amusing. But yeah, the anti-intellectual and anti-scientific tendencies in the USA can be pretty disappointing, especially considering how many other countries are not encountering these problems. Canada's looking mighty sexy from here.

Then you haven't been in Ontario recently.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on November 21, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
Okay, Luna, you are responsible for calling the hospital. I need to get this self-inflicted head trauma taken care of.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Murderbitch Deezy Mac C on November 21, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
Okay, Luna, you are responsible for calling the hospital. I need to get this self-inflicted head trauma taken care of.

Do you need a Christian doctor? 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on November 21, 2011, 10:08:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Murderbitch Deezy Mac C on November 21, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
Okay, Luna, you are responsible for calling the hospital. I need to get this self-inflicted head trauma taken care of.

Do you need a Christian doctor? 
Yes, and make sure he's from Islamabad.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 21, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Murderbitch Deezy Mac C on November 21, 2011, 10:08:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Murderbitch Deezy Mac C on November 21, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
Okay, Luna, you are responsible for calling the hospital. I need to get this self-inflicted head trauma taken care of.

Do you need a Christian doctor? 
Yes, and make sure he's from Islamabad.

I'm on it.  You may need to travel a bit, however, but, no worries...

You have a passport, right?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on November 21, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 20, 2011, 11:42:34 AM
The Birther Queen is back.

Orly Taitz has filed a complaint in New Hampshire to remove Obama from the presidential ballot, challenging his citizenship. 

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293101/birther-challenges-obama

O GOOD GAWD.  That crazynutjobtwunt really has a one-track mind, don't she?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Jenne on November 21, 2011, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: Telarus on November 21, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 20, 2011, 11:42:34 AM
The Birther Queen is back.

Orly Taitz has filed a complaint in New Hampshire to remove Obama from the presidential ballot, challenging his citizenship. 

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293101/birther-challenges-obama

Y'know.. I just realized that she's getting a shitload of money from someone to pull these media stunts in which a small % of her fee is funneled into frivolous motions, and contempt of court charges (which if the court knew of in advance would constitute ???.. not bribery exactly).

Still, someone just needs to punch her in the taco and tell her to get a new gig already.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on November 21, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
:lulz: He should fire his handlers.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2011, 02:14:19 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 21, 2011, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 21, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Herman Cain. (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-thank-god-my-arab-doctor-wasnt-muslim.php)

Quote"I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign—not that I had anything against foreign doctors—but it sounded too foreign," Cain tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Cain, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

"Hallelujah!" Cain says. "Thank God!"

:horrormirth:

He tells this story.  In public.  More than once.
:lulz: He should fire his handlers.

Wowwwwww.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 22, 2011, 03:01:42 AM
Hes only there to make teabaggers look open minded about people with permatans.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Triple Zero on November 22, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
Can't those stupid wingnuts just LET THIS THREAD DIE already!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 22, 2011, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 22, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
Can't those stupid wingnuts just LET THIS THREAD DIE already!!

No Trip, that would be UNAMERICAN.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on November 22, 2011, 04:59:42 PM
In order to stand out against the other GOP candidates, Gingrich had to dig deep into the crazy mines:
1. Fire unionized janitors.
2. Put poo kids to work.
3. PROFIT!!!!!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/19/newt-gingrich-calls-for-end-of-child-labor-laws/ (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/19/newt-gingrich-calls-for-end-of-child-labor-laws/)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 04, 2011, 10:31:24 PM
Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler (R-MO) is apparently very sure of the government's position on faith, or at least what she thinks the government's position SHOULD be:

QuoteHartzler: I agree, I think so. Christianity is the main religion in our country and as a policy for the Department of Defense we need to defend the practice of religion but we do not have to obligate taxpayer funds to facilitate or accommodate it or pay for it.

Perkins: Is it the government's role to try to put all religions on the same plane?

Hartzler: No, it's not their role at all. Their role is to facilitate basic policy for our country and to not to try to lift up one religion over the other, they should be defending the basic rights that we have, that freedom of religion here, and certainly not facilitating or accommodating fringe religions, it's crazy.

What the Representative for the 4th district of the state of Missouri is upset about is that the Air Force Academy, which spent  3.5 million dollars on the Cadet Chapel for the Christian cadets, dared to spend 80 thousand dollars on a pagan worship center on campus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 07, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
Trump shares his butthurt.  After his birther bullshit, he now whines that Obama hasn't invited him to the White House.

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/12/07/donald_trump_complains_that_president_obama_has_not_invited_him_to_the_white_house.php
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2011, 02:23:21 AM
Quote from: Luna on December 07, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
Trump shares his butthurt.  After his birther bullshit, he now whines that Obama hasn't invited him to the White House.

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/12/07/donald_trump_complains_that_president_obama_has_not_invited_him_to_the_white_house.php

BUT THE TOUPEE CAN COME.
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 08, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
Somebody posted on facebook that Trump likes Newt's idea and he's going to make a poor kids edition of The Apprentice.
I say they use the toupee for a mop head. With Trump in it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 08, 2011, 10:43:22 PM
Quote"I'm very concerned about this very divisive rhetoric the president is using when he continues to talk about 'equality' and 'fairness' and this thing that I think is really contrary to the principles that I mentioned, as far as life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness," he said, adding, "Because the government cannot guarantee happiness."

Representative Allen West (R-FL).

Equality and fairness are unAmerican.  Nice.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2011, 11:45:55 PM
Quote from: Luna on December 08, 2011, 10:43:22 PM
Quote"I'm very concerned about this very divisive rhetoric the president is using when he continues to talk about 'equality' and 'fairness' and this thing that I think is really contrary to the principles that I mentioned, as far as life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness," he said, adding, "Because the government cannot guarantee happiness."

Representative Allen West (R-FL).

Equality and fairness are unAmerican.  Nice.


Let's play Name The Grammatical & Logical Errors!


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 09, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
I'm having a ton of fun watching people try to defend this assmonkey on fecesbook:
http://michiganmessenger.com/402/white-supremacists-rallying-around-ron-pauls-presidential-campaign

The Houston Chronicle documented Paul as having written some  questionable  materials himself. In his 1992 independent political newsletter, Paul reported on a survey of blacks. He has refused to provide the survey to anyone. His comments include:

•"Opinion polls show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."
•"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
•"We are constantly told it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
•"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males who have been raised and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 09, 2011, 04:22:43 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 09, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
I'm having a ton of fun watching people try to defend this assmonkey on fecesbook:
http://michiganmessenger.com/402/white-supremacists-rallying-around-ron-pauls-presidential-campaign

The Houston Chronicle documented Paul as having written some  questionable  materials himself. In his 1992 independent political newsletter, Paul reported on a survey of blacks. He has refused to provide the survey to anyone. His comments include:

•"Opinion polls show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."
•"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
•"We are constantly told it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
•"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males who have been raised and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."


Oh FFS. It's a goddamn three-ring circus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on December 09, 2011, 05:14:23 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 09, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
I'm having a ton of fun watching people try to defend this assmonkey on fecesbook:
http://michiganmessenger.com/402/white-supremacists-rallying-around-ron-pauls-presidential-campaign

The Houston Chronicle documented Paul as having written some  questionable  materials himself. In his 1992 independent political newsletter, Paul reported on a survey of blacks. He has refused to provide the survey to anyone. His comments include:

•"Opinion polls show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."
•"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
•"We are constantly told it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
•"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males who have been raised and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."


This was news back when he ran the Libertarian ticket, and it was news again over a decade later in 2008.  It's now a very OLD story.

While he refuses to name the writers who published this in his name, the general consensus is that it was Lew Rockwell and some of his cohorts.

Indefensible, regardless of who wrote it and he really shouldn't have had his fucking name on it.  It WAS written 20 years ago, more than long enough for people to have a change in perspective.  I don't know Rockwell personally and don't read his blog so I can't say whether that's the case or not.

Incidentally, does anyone actually REMEMBER what D.C. was like in the 80's and early 90's? 

Fuck, even Dave Chappelle made a joke about it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on December 09, 2011, 05:14:23 PM

This was news back when he ran the Libertarian ticket, and it was news again over a decade later in 2008.  It's now a very OLD story.

While he refuses to name the writers who published this in his name, the general consensus is that it was Lew Rockwell and some of his cohorts.

Indefensible, regardless of who wrote it and he really shouldn't have had his fucking name on it.  It WAS written 20 years ago, more than long enough for people to have a change in perspective.  I don't know Rockwell personally and don't read his blog so I can't say whether that's the case or not.

Incidentally, does anyone actually REMEMBER what D.C. was like in the 80's and early 90's? 

Fuck, even Dave Chappelle made a joke about it.

Besides, it doesn't matter.  Ron Paul has about as much chance of winning the presidency as I do.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 09, 2011, 09:57:18 PM
Rockwell does have some noted...problems with black people, and often provides his website for the hosting of Neo-Confederate screeds dressed up in liberatarian terminology.  As soon as I heard about him having worked on Ron Paul's Survival Report, I figured him for the main culprit.

More damning than anything in the Survival Report is Ron Paul's apparent lack of concern with people spreading racist venom in his name.  He has pretty much declared it doesn't really matter to him.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 11, 2011, 01:26:10 PM
I don't know why I even find it mildly surprising when Limbaugh says something stupidly racist.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/10/1044066/-Limbaugh-to-Black-Caucus-Chair-Emmanuel-Cleaver:-your-daypass-to-leave-the-plantation-is-revoked-?via=recent
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on December 11, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
I registered on Tea Party Nation a while back so I could comment on something.  Now I get several emails/day every time a new article is posted.  I have come to refer to these emails as "The Daily Derp".  I got one yesterday where the first line made me LOL.

QuoteRush Limbaugh is America's voice.  He is the most powerful, most well known commentator on the radio, TV or the internet.
:rush:

The article was called "Rush's Wish", and it starts off about how Rush expressed his hope that Obama would fail when he was elected, and then praises the Republicans for intentionally sabotaging the economy to make Rush's wish come true.
:amurrica:

The article is here (http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/rush-s-wish) if you want to read it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I think Tea Party Nation should be evaluated by the FDA. It might be quite useful as a treatment for low-blood pressure.

I've been subscribed for a while now. I had to set up a filter so it didn't end up in my inbox... it was kind of like having bed bugs... in e-mail form.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I think Tea Party Nation should be evaluated by the FDA. It might be quite useful as a treatment for low-blood pressure.

I've been subscribed for a while now. I had to set up a filter so it didn't end up in my inbox... it was kind of like having bed bugs... in e-mail form.

I used to get shitty email forwards from all of my conservatard relatives, etc.

I then warned each one to take me off their mailing list.

They thought - having known me all of our lives, mind you - that it would be funny to ramp it up.  So I hit "reply to all" on each new email, and sent EVERYONE ON THEIR LIST (including them) our dear old friend Tubgirl.

Now I don't get any emails at all, which makes me happy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on December 12, 2011, 07:01:51 PM
:lulz: I have a special folder for my grandmother and her husband's forwards. I empty it periodically after checking for lulz. If I didn't feel bad about horrifying my otherwise-favorite grandmother, I would do that in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I think Tea Party Nation should be evaluated by the FDA. It might be quite useful as a treatment for low-blood pressure.

I've been subscribed for a while now. I had to set up a filter so it didn't end up in my inbox... it was kind of like having bed bugs... in e-mail form.

I used to get shitty email forwards from all of my conservatard relatives, etc.

I then warned each one to take me off their mailing list.

They thought - having known me all of our lives, mind you - that it would be funny to ramp it up.  So I hit "reply to all" on each new email, and sent EVERYONE ON THEIR LIST (including them) our dear old friend Tubgirl.

Now I don't get any emails at all, which makes me happy.

Picasso : art :: Roger : trolling :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I think Tea Party Nation should be evaluated by the FDA. It might be quite useful as a treatment for low-blood pressure.

I've been subscribed for a while now. I had to set up a filter so it didn't end up in my inbox... it was kind of like having bed bugs... in e-mail form.

I used to get shitty email forwards from all of my conservatard relatives, etc.

I then warned each one to take me off their mailing list.

They thought - having known me all of our lives, mind you - that it would be funny to ramp it up.  So I hit "reply to all" on each new email, and sent EVERYONE ON THEIR LIST (including them) our dear old friend Tubgirl.

Now I don't get any emails at all, which makes me happy.

Picasso : art :: Roger : trolling :lulz:

:thankyou:

Though I'm not sure that's trolling, so much as a retaliatory strike.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 12, 2011, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 12, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
I think Tea Party Nation should be evaluated by the FDA. It might be quite useful as a treatment for low-blood pressure.

I've been subscribed for a while now. I had to set up a filter so it didn't end up in my inbox... it was kind of like having bed bugs... in e-mail form.

I used to get shitty email forwards from all of my conservatard relatives, etc.

I then warned each one to take me off their mailing list.

They thought - having known me all of our lives, mind you - that it would be funny to ramp it up.  So I hit "reply to all" on each new email, and sent EVERYONE ON THEIR LIST (including them) our dear old friend Tubgirl.

Now I don't get any emails at all, which makes me happy.


Ooooooooooh!

<mental bookmark>
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 13, 2011, 10:52:35 PM
Santorum's after your porn, folks...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/13/santorum-court-has-gotten-it-wrong-that-pornography-is-free-speech/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on December 14, 2011, 04:11:21 AM
WHAT. NO.


OTOH, this means the American part of the internet at large will be displeased. Which is good.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 14, 2011, 04:13:03 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 14, 2011, 04:11:21 AM
WHAT. NO.


OTOH, this means the American part of the internet at large will be displeased. Which is good.

Santorum never stood a chance.  Dan Savage buried him.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on December 14, 2011, 04:21:20 AM
True. But this adds to it, if nothing else, right?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on December 14, 2011, 04:23:56 AM
Yeah, if only to let some of the others air THEIR positions on the subject.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 06, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Kansas House Speaker asks GOP to pray for Obama's death. (http://m.examiner.com/democrat-in-national/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop-to-pray-for-obama-s-death)

QuoteO'Neal asked his fellow Republicans to pray Psalm 109... The relevant verse from Psalm 109 is considered a prayer for vengeance, a prayer for the death of a leader. The most damning part of the prayer is lines 7-12:

'When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labor.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.'

O'Neal forwarded the prayer with his own message:

"At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 06, 2012, 07:05:31 PM
Wow.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 06, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
Technically, I think that's considered Treason.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2012, 07:50:58 PM
Holy shit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 06, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 06, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Kansas House Speaker asks GOP to pray for Obama's death. (http://m.examiner.com/democrat-in-national/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop-to-pray-for-obama-s-death)

QuoteO'Neal asked his fellow Republicans to pray Psalm 109... The relevant verse from Psalm 109 is considered a prayer for vengeance, a prayer for the death of a leader. The most damning part of the prayer is lines 7-12:

'When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labor.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.'

O'Neal forwarded the prayer with his own message:

"At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!!"

Just when I think they can't sink any lower.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 06, 2012, 08:18:23 PM
I've seen that as a bumper sticker a number of times since he was elected:
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/11/18/10/psalm-1098-bumper-sticker-26681-1258557389-0.jpg)
so, he was low, and unoriginal...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2012, 08:20:34 PM
The second of those is definitely the greater of two evils.

Everyone knows calling for the death of your political enemies is now cool, anyway. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 06, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 06, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Kansas House Speaker asks GOP to pray for Obama's death. (http://m.examiner.com/democrat-in-national/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop-to-pray-for-obama-s-death)

QuoteO'Neal asked his fellow Republicans to pray Psalm 109... The relevant verse from Psalm 109 is considered a prayer for vengeance, a prayer for the death of a leader. The most damning part of the prayer is lines 7-12:

'When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labor.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.'

O'Neal forwarded the prayer with his own message:

"At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!!"

Just when I think they can't sink any lower.  :lulz:

It's only gonna get worse from here on out.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 06, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 06, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Kansas House Speaker asks GOP to pray for Obama's death. (http://m.examiner.com/democrat-in-national/kansas-speaker-o-neal-asks-house-gop-to-pray-for-obama-s-death)

QuoteO'Neal asked his fellow Republicans to pray Psalm 109... The relevant verse from Psalm 109 is considered a prayer for vengeance, a prayer for the death of a leader. The most damning part of the prayer is lines 7-12:

'When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labor.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.'

O'Neal forwarded the prayer with his own message:

"At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!!"

Just when I think they can't sink any lower.  :lulz:

It's only gonna get worse from here on out.   :lulz:

At least it'll be fun to watch.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on February 09, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
"Do you know the history of AIDS?"

"It was one guy screwing a monkey, if I recall correctly, and then having sex with men." (http://www.politifact.com/tennessee/statements/2012/feb/03/stacey-campfield/knoxville-republican-says-aids-came-man-having-sex/)

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on February 09, 2012, 07:06:29 PM
The problem is these guys wear their lack of intellectual depth like a badge of courage. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 07:06:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 09, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
"Do you know the history of AIDS?"

"It was one guy screwing a monkey, if I recall correctly, and then having sex with men." (http://www.politifact.com/tennessee/statements/2012/feb/03/stacey-campfield/knoxville-republican-says-aids-came-man-having-sex/)

Yeah, that guy was just refused service very publicly in an upscale restaurant, and then they advertised that their restaurant was "Stacey Campfield-free."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 09, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 07:06:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 09, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
"Do you know the history of AIDS?"

"It was one guy screwing a monkey, if I recall correctly, and then having sex with men." (http://www.politifact.com/tennessee/statements/2012/feb/03/stacey-campfield/knoxville-republican-says-aids-came-man-having-sex/)

Yeah, that guy was just refused service very publicly in an upscale restaurant, and then they advertised that their restaurant was "Stacey Campfield-free."

Awesome.  Where?  If it's anywhere reasonable, I would eat there just for that, prices be damned.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on February 09, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Knoxville: http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2012/01/30/stacey-campfield-denied-service-at-knoxville-restaurant (http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2012/01/30/stacey-campfield-denied-service-at-knoxville-restaurant)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: kingyak on February 09, 2012, 07:16:51 PM
Knoxville: http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2012/01/30/stacey-campfield-denied-service-at-knoxville-restaurant (http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2012/01/30/stacey-campfield-denied-service-at-knoxville-restaurant)

Restaurant owners seem, historically, to have a keen grasp of the political future, and they think in the long run.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 09, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
Quote"The French Revolution," Santorum answered. "What's left is a government that gives you rights. What's left are no unalienable rights. What's left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you'll do and when you'll do it. What's left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we are a long way from that, but if we do follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/rick-santorum-draws-crowds-raises-nearly-1-million-after-tuesday-trifecta/

Well.  Obama goes unchecked, we get to start lopping off heads?

I find myself conflicted, actually.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 10, 2012, 12:06:59 AM
HAW HAW HAW HAW!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/mississippi_rep_wants_the_gulf_of_mexico_renamed_t.php

This is better than FREEDOM FRIES!

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on February 10, 2012, 12:15:19 AM
INFINITELY SO! Wow. :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 10, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on February 10, 2012, 12:15:19 AM
INFINITELY SO! Wow. :lulz:

DID WE MENTION HOW MUCH WE HATE THEM MEXEECANS?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2012, 12:40:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 10, 2012, 12:06:59 AM
HAW HAW HAW HAW!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/mississippi_rep_wants_the_gulf_of_mexico_renamed_t.php

This is better than FREEDOM FRIES!

:lulz:

WHAT THE FUCK!  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on February 10, 2012, 01:47:28 AM
Relevant: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2012/02/09/gulf-of-america-bills-author-says-is-its-nothing-but-a-spamalot-bill (http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2012/02/09/gulf-of-america-bills-author-says-is-its-nothing-but-a-spamalot-bill)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 10, 2012, 01:48:33 AM
Quote from: kingyak on February 10, 2012, 01:47:28 AM
Relevant: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2012/02/09/gulf-of-america-bills-author-says-is-its-nothing-but-a-spamalot-bill (http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2012/02/09/gulf-of-america-bills-author-says-is-its-nothing-but-a-spamalot-bill)

Dammit.   :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on February 10, 2012, 01:50:09 AM
My first guess was "stupid" rather than "satire," too. I mean, it's Mississippi.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on February 10, 2012, 06:16:48 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/02/08/421510/new-hampshire-gop-repeal-lunch/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 10, 2012, 10:22:37 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/herman-cain-stupid-people-and-ignorant-people-are-ruining-america/

[quote}Former presidential candidate Herman Cain triumphantly took the stage at CPAC this afternoon in front of a friendly crowd to explain something many attendees already believe: that their ideological opponents on the left aren't "misguided" (as Sen. Rand Paul later offered) but downright stupid.

"We must outsmart the liberals," Cain said. "We must outsmart the people who are trying to ruin this country." But, he said, it wasn't just the stupid people who were ruining the country: "Stupid and ignorant people are ruining America," Cain posited — and running it.[/quote]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on February 10, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: Telarus on February 10, 2012, 06:16:48 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/02/08/421510/new-hampshire-gop-repeal-lunch/

I'm sure the invisible hand of the free market will feed them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: kingyak on February 10, 2012, 03:50:13 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 10, 2012, 10:22:37 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/herman-cain-stupid-people-and-ignorant-people-are-ruining-america/

[quote}Former presidential candidate Herman Cain triumphantly took the stage at CPAC this afternoon in front of a friendly crowd to explain something many attendees already believe: that their ideological opponents on the left aren't "misguided" (as Sen. Rand Paul later offered) but downright stupid.

"We must outsmart the liberals," Cain said. "We must outsmart the people who are trying to ruin this country." But, he said, it wasn't just the stupid people who were ruining the country: "Stupid and ignorant people are ruining America," Cain posited — and running it.
[/quote]

"If only we could outsmart those stupid people!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2012, 08:01:17 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 10, 2012, 10:22:37 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/09/herman-cain-stupid-people-and-ignorant-people-are-ruining-america/

[quote}Former presidential candidate Herman Cain triumphantly took the stage at CPAC this afternoon in front of a friendly crowd to explain something many attendees already believe: that their ideological opponents on the left aren't "misguided" (as Sen. Rand Paul later offered) but downright stupid.

"We must outsmart the liberals," Cain said. "We must outsmart the people who are trying to ruin this country." But, he said, it wasn't just the stupid people who were ruining the country: "Stupid and ignorant people are ruining America," Cain posited — and running it.
[/quote]

That is simply amazing! How on earth can the Right outsmart STUPID PEOPLE? It's hopeless!  :lulz:

Also, it's interesting that the Republican party has seemingly simply given up on trying to win converts or appeal to moderates. They're purely trying to create a division, at this point. Smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 11, 2012, 02:33:34 AM
QuoteBASHIR: As you know, sir, the contraceptive pill doesn't abort a pregnancy. It prevents a pregnancy from happening. That's not what I'm talking about...

KING: Well, I really don't concede that. And that's not either the Catholic Church's position.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/rep-steve-king-wont-concede-that-birth-control

I...  Fucking hell.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Sita on February 11, 2012, 03:31:05 AM
That doesn't surprise me. I've heard the same 'logic' about condoms.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Suu on February 11, 2012, 03:31:33 AM
Quote from: Luna on February 11, 2012, 02:33:34 AM
QuoteBASHIR: As you know, sir, the contraceptive pill doesn't abort a pregnancy. It prevents a pregnancy from happening. That's not what I'm talking about...

KING: Well, I really don't concede that. And that's not either the Catholic Church's position.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/rep-steve-king-wont-concede-that-birth-control

I...  Fucking hell.

I...I...just...I...

I think my face melted as I read that.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 06:49:22 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

HAW HAW!  Google this asshole.  He's my very favorite politician.

I mean, for my value of "favorite".  He is a never-ending supply of idiocy and insanity, and his constituents love him so much, they'd all fight for the privilege of sucking his dick...If they could find a hydraulic jack capable of shifting his gut out of the way.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 11, 2012, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 06:49:22 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

HAW HAW!  Google this asshole.  He's my very favorite politician.

I mean, for my value of "favorite".  He is a never-ending supply of idiocy and insanity, and his constituents love him so much, they'd all fight for the privilege of sucking his dick...If they could find a hydraulic jack capable of shifting his gut out of the way.

Oh, god, I got a visual on that.

Not enough brain bleach in the world.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 11, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
His screeching about Muslims terrorists is especially hilarious, when you consider his own connections to the IRA.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Triple Zero on February 11, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

That's the "morning-after pill" right?

Isn't it basically equivalent to the regular birth control pill except in a higher dosage? Like, how many would you need to take? (If I'm saying something really stupid here, my apologies, but I've always wondered about that)

Out of curiosity, where do you get it in the US? Do you need a prescription? How much does it cost? Over here you can pick it up at the pharmacy* without a prescription and it costs about 14 euros ($18) (*pharmacy being a place that sells regular medicine and prescription medicine having medically or pharmaceutically schooled staff, as opposed to a drug-store which sells ibuprofen and shampoo)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 11, 2012, 07:08:40 PM
Cain- the IRA arent terrists. Theyre FREEDOM FIGHTERS TM. at least here in the US. lol.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Phox on February 11, 2012, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 11, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

That's the "morning-after pill" right?

Isn't it basically equivalent to the regular birth control pill except in a higher dosage? Like, how many would you need to take? (If I'm saying something really stupid here, my apologies, but I've always wondered about that)

Out of curiosity, where do you get it in the US? Do you need a prescription? How much does it cost? Over here you can pick it up at the pharmacy* without a prescription and it costs about 14 euros ($18) (*pharmacy being a place that sells regular medicine and prescription medicine having medically or pharmaceutically schooled staff, as opposed to a drug-store which sells ibuprofen and shampoo)
Yes, that's the morning after pill.

I'm not entirely certain, but I believe it's largely the same here, though I couldn't tell you how much it costs.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 12, 2012, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 11, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

That's the "morning-after pill" right?

Isn't it basically equivalent to the regular birth control pill except in a higher dosage? Like, how many would you need to take? (If I'm saying something really stupid here, my apologies, but I've always wondered about that)

Out of curiosity, where do you get it in the US? Do you need a prescription? How much does it cost? Over here you can pick it up at the pharmacy* without a prescription and it costs about 14 euros ($18) (*pharmacy being a place that sells regular medicine and prescription medicine having medically or pharmaceutically schooled staff, as opposed to a drug-store which sells ibuprofen and shampoo)

What Plan B does is make your body give off all these chemicals that say "IT IS TIME FOR YOUR PERIOD!  NOW MOTHERFUCKER, WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR THE SCHEDULE!"  However, it is ONLY used immediately after the fact.  If you were a month prego, it wouldn't work, which is why it isn't an abortion thingy.

You mostly get it out from Planned Parenthood, I don't know where else it can be acquired.  You don't need a prescription, but if you're under 16 I think they either strongly urge or require parental consent, I'm not sure which.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 12, 2012, 01:07:40 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 12, 2012, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 11, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 11, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
I was about ready to explode with stupid, but then I re-read it and he's specifically talking about Plan B, which is still not abortion and he's an idiot for not knowing the difference, but that's slightly less awful than the initial impression I got that he literally thought the regular birth control pills are abortifacients.

That's the "morning-after pill" right?

Isn't it basically equivalent to the regular birth control pill except in a higher dosage? Like, how many would you need to take? (If I'm saying something really stupid here, my apologies, but I've always wondered about that)

Out of curiosity, where do you get it in the US? Do you need a prescription? How much does it cost? Over here you can pick it up at the pharmacy* without a prescription and it costs about 14 euros ($18) (*pharmacy being a place that sells regular medicine and prescription medicine having medically or pharmaceutically schooled staff, as opposed to a drug-store which sells ibuprofen and shampoo)

What Plan B does is make your body give off all these chemicals that say "IT IS TIME FOR YOUR PERIOD!  NOW MOTHERFUCKER, WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR THE SCHEDULE!"  However, it is ONLY used immediately after the fact.  If you were a month prego, it wouldn't work, which is why it isn't an abortion thingy.

You mostly get it out from Planned Parenthood, I don't know where else it can be acquired.  You don't need a prescription, but if you're under 16 I think they either strongly urge or require parental consent, I'm not sure which.

Depends on the state.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 12, 2012, 03:41:27 AM
I'm pretty sure under 16 a prescription is required.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on February 12, 2012, 11:51:10 AM
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 12, 2012, 03:41:27 AM
I'm pretty sure under 16 a prescription is required.

Under 17, apparently.  I just checked.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on February 12, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
What the fuck:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-tea-party-activist-warns-left-changed-definition-pedophilia

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 12, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 12, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
What the fuck:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-tea-party-activist-warns-left-changed-definition-pedophilia

What the hell

Now they're simply resorting to making shit up. Next they're going to try to convince people that Liberals practice ritual incest and eat Christian babies.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 12, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
Sometimes I think in order to match their level of crazy, the left would have to start making claims like, "Margaret Atwood is a time traveler and The Handmaid's Tale is an actual documentary from the future."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 02:23:20 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 12, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
What the fuck:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-tea-party-activist-warns-left-changed-definition-pedophilia

What the hell

Now they're simply resorting to making shit up. Next they're going to try to convince people that Liberals practice ritual incest and eat Christian babies.

This is one reason I like spreading rumors about the teabaggers.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 13, 2012, 07:04:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 02:23:20 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 12, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 12, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
What the fuck:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-tea-party-activist-warns-left-changed-definition-pedophilia

What the hell

Now they're simply resorting to making shit up. Next they're going to try to convince people that Liberals practice ritual incest and eat Christian babies.

This is one reason I like spreading rumors about the teabaggers.

It's always fun to play pin-the-rumor-on-the-teabagger.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on February 13, 2012, 09:18:31 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/09/422358/scalia-the-soviet-unions-constitution-was-much-better-than-ours/

Imagine for a moment, the shitstorm that would result if Obama had said this.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 26, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
Haha, Obama has daughters, what a fag!

QuoteYou want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn't give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he's ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

Also OMG MITT ROMNEY = SO SEXY.  Check out that bulging porfolio, ladies.  He's the guy Christian Grey based himself on.

This sad wankery is bought to you by National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 26, 2012, 06:44:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
Haha, Obama has daughters, what a fag!

QuoteYou want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn't give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he's ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

Also OMG MITT ROMNEY = SO SEXY.  Check out that bulging porfolio, ladies.  He's the guy Christian Grey based himself on.

This sad wankery is bought to you by National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss

http://jezebel.com/5937092/mitt-romneys-wonder-dong-should-be-chieftan-of-america
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on August 26, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
Haha, Obama has daughters, what a fag!

QuoteYou want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn't give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he's ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

Also OMG MITT ROMNEY = SO SEXY.  Check out that bulging porfolio, ladies.  He's the guy Christian Grey based himself on.

This sad wankery is bought to you by National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss


THE COMMENTS!!!!

QuoteKevin, my favorite column of the year. Loved it, so un-PC and therefore so true.

That's hair-on-your-chest logic right there, ya friggin' homo's.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 26, 2012, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2012, 04:32:31 AM
Haha, Obama has daughters, what a fag!

QuoteYou want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn't give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he's ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

Also OMG MITT ROMNEY = SO SEXY.  Check out that bulging porfolio, ladies.  He's the guy Christian Grey based himself on.

This sad wankery is bought to you by National Review https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss

WOWWWWWWW.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 26, 2012, 07:41:32 PM
I like how the logic leads directly to "Mormons should rule the world".

I'm 23 of 25, fwiw
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
http://oaklawn.patch.com/articles/republican-congressional-candidate-says-holocaust-never-happened,

Holocaust deniers, rape apologists... The republicans are such a lovely bunch...  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2012, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: Pixie on August 28, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
http://oaklawn.patch.com/articles/republican-congressional-candidate-says-holocaust-never-happened,

Holocaust deniers, rape apologists... The republicans are such a lovely bunch...  :horrormirth:

All the crazies are coming out at once!

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 28, 2012, 03:48:39 PM
Quote from: Pixie on August 28, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
http://oaklawn.patch.com/articles/republican-congressional-candidate-says-holocaust-never-happened,

Holocaust deniers, rape apologists... The republicans are such a lovely bunch...  :horrormirth:

When did Republicans get this BALLS-OUT CRAZY?  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
Since about 1930-46.

The number of Eastern European and German affiliated groups which had sway within the Republican Party just before and after WWII is both impressive and suspect.  That a good number of these emigre groups were tied to their own nation's WWII-era nationalist movements, which were in turn aligned with the Nazi Party, meant certain shared beliefs were quite prevalent within these groups after the war.  The "Republican establishment", which typically did not care for identity politics of any kind (except WASP, of course) and later on the pro-Israeli religious right, tended to keep a lid on such sentiments.

The "Republican establishment" is discredited and dying, and the religious right easily distracted by shiny objects considered pertinent to their worldview, to the exclusion of everything else.  So, such sympathies tend to get more play than they did historically.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on August 28, 2012, 04:32:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Illinois,_2012#District_3
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Illinois,_2012#District_3)
He got 3,861 votes, 11%, in the GOP primary.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2012, 09:54:49 PM
Todd Akin is at it again.... :horrormirth:

though it's not the GOP Rapegaffefest this time. This time its breastmilk can cure adult homosexuals.

I can't even bring myself to link or read an article. :(
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on August 28, 2012, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: Pixie on August 28, 2012, 09:54:49 PM
Todd Akin is at it again.... :horrormirth:

though it's not the GOP Rapegaffefest this time. This time its breastmilk can cure adult homosexuals.

I can't even bring myself to link or read an article. :(

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2012/08/todd-akin-claims-breast-milk-will-cure-homosexuality

It's off a satire site.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 28, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
It's Poe's world these days and his rule is law.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on August 28, 2012, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 28, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
It's Poe's world these days and his rule is law.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25626677.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2012, 12:05:40 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/28/759151/raul-labrador-disaster-funding/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on August 29, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2012, 12:05:40 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/28/759151/raul-labrador-disaster-funding/

They already held the entire country hostage during the debt ceiling debate. New Orleans seems like a step down at this point.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 01, 2012, 04:23:07 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/31/781511/rnc-delegate-offended-by-presence-of-mexican-at-disneys-epcot-center/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 01, 2012, 05:51:18 AM
WHEEEEEEE! :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 01, 2012, 06:03:14 AM
:lulz: what a credit to the American educational institution. Geez.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 01, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 01, 2012, 06:03:14 AM
:lulz: what a credit to the American educational institution. Geez.

WAIT.  YOU MEAN ALL THEM HIZZPANICS AND BLACKS ARE AMERICANS?  I THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST REZIDENTS.
\
:mullet:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 01, 2012, 07:24:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 01, 2012, 04:23:07 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/31/781511/rnc-delegate-offended-by-presence-of-mexican-at-disneys-epcot-center/

Good thing he didn't see the Indian lady on the WHITE AMERICAN CHEESE

(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/20/38/01/00/0020380100000_500X500.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on September 02, 2012, 01:18:44 AM
:spittake:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 02, 2012, 06:03:49 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on September 01, 2012, 07:24:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 01, 2012, 04:23:07 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/31/781511/rnc-delegate-offended-by-presence-of-mexican-at-disneys-epcot-center/

Good thing he didn't see the Indian lady on the WHITE AMERICAN CHEESE

(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/20/38/01/00/0020380100000_500X500.jpg)

They're just trying to make sure Native Americans get their due credit for inventing sliced cheese.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 08, 2012, 08:54:32 AM
This is off the rails. Even for someone whose bloodflow to the brain is clogged by lard, oxycontin, and backed-up shit:
http://www.examiner.com/article/rush-limbaugh-says-obama-is-not-authentically-black-has-no-slave-blood
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 08, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
Lolz.

One wonders if he is aware that most black people in the world do not have "slave blood".

One further wonders if he came up with this nonsensical idea in order to try and reinforce the "black = slave" idea to the conservative masses.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 11, 2012, 12:55:47 PM
Sadly, this isn't the first time I've heard this idea.  I can't find source links, because the Google machine is too clogged up with the above media event, but the idea was that a black person who grew up outside of the US "doesn't understand" the persistent racism of American culture, and therefore is a poor representative for blacks who were raised in the US.

I ain't buying it, but it's unfortunately not a new thing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 11, 2012, 01:36:21 PM
Yeah, those overseas blacks sure have it good compared to their cousins in the USA.  Colonialism was a big win for them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 11, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
WHAT DO THOSE SOMALIS KNOW ABOUT SUFFERING, ANYWAY?
               \
:rush:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 11, 2012, 09:53:03 PM
So...  Apparently, the good folks over at RedState.com have made it a banning offense to quote any fact-checking site.

Really.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/11/1130399/-RedState-com-to-ban-users-quoting-FACT-CHECKERS-not-snark-these-idiots-really-mean-it?detail=hide
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 11, 2012, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Luna on September 11, 2012, 09:53:03 PM
So...  Apparently, the good folks over at RedState.com have made it a banning offense to quote any fact-checking site.

Really.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/11/1130399/-RedState-com-to-ban-users-quoting-FACT-CHECKERS-not-snark-these-idiots-really-mean-it?detail=hide

HAW HAW HAW
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 11, 2012, 09:56:59 PM
Perfect. :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 11, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
The best part?

Liberal commentators frequently whine about Politifact and similar sites as well.  Not to the point of banning them, admittedly, but they have the same level of disdain for them that RedState is showing.

So basically, Dems and Repubs, by and large, don't like "fact-checkers", claim they slavishly report in the interests of the other side, and declare their intent to ignore them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2012, 03:58:25 AM
There's really no better endorsement than when both parties hate you.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 12, 2012, 10:21:12 AM
Of course, it is entirely possible that the fact-checkers are also wrong, just not wrong in the ways that would immediately benefit one side or the other, or that each side focuses on the fact-checkers it doesn't like while giving a free pass to those who favourably report their agenda.

Example: Dems whined about Glenn Kessler's disengenous statements concerning Mitt Romney's time at Bain Capital, with good reason...but then threw a hissy fit when Politifact said Harry Reid's statements about Romney not paying any taxes for the last decade could not be verified (which of course they could not, since Reid claimed to have a secret source).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2012, 01:08:31 PM
Ok, point taken.  I've also noticed that for this election (though I'm quite sure this isn't new), there's been a lot of "fact checking" that's actually partisan hack jobs, with very little info to back it up.  Like, "Obama said the ACA was good, but he's lying, because it isn't."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
I don't even know where to start with this one.  It's like a Teabagger Grab Bag.

http://samuel-warde.com/2012/08/sexual-preditors-and-underage-abortion-dog-fights-birth-certificates-atms-in-spanish-what-do-they-have-in-common/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 13, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
I don't even know where to start with this one.  It's like a Teabagger Grab Bag.

http://samuel-warde.com/2012/08/sexual-preditors-and-underage-abortion-dog-fights-birth-certificates-atms-in-spanish-what-do-they-have-in-common/

"Preditors"?   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
I don't even know where to start with this one.  It's like a Teabagger Grab Bag.

http://samuel-warde.com/2012/08/sexual-preditors-and-underage-abortion-dog-fights-birth-certificates-atms-in-spanish-what-do-they-have-in-common/

"Preditors"?   :lulz:

I didn't spell it.  I'd blame it on exposure to that much stupid in one sitting.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on September 13, 2012, 11:28:30 AM
Norwegian history Ph.D. says:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11633285/Langelands%20selvm%C3%A5l.jpg (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11633285/Langelands%20selvm%C3%A5l.jpg)
"Let me give an example of democracy: Who wants immigration from genetically weak analphabets from Punjab? Who wants car prices that are twice as high (compared to other countries) in Norway? Who wants us to waste billions in Africa instead of building roads in Norway? I, as a political citizen want to look at the political basis for this state. (...) The Norway I come from has fallen on all battlefields for, and has no duty to host analphabets under the direction of cultural marxist bicycle networks in Majorstua (neighborhood in Oslo, the sort of place where I suppose urban cultural marxist bicyclists like to hang out in hip coffee bars)."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
OK, I have to ask...."analphabets"?

That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on September 13, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
OK, I have to ask...."analphabets"?

That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.

What is a phabet and why would you stick it in your ass?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
OK, I have to ask...."analphabets"?

That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.

Illiterates.

I had to look it up.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 13, 2012, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 13, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
OK, I have to ask...."analphabets"?

That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.

What is a phabet and why would you stick it in your ass?

:mittens:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 13, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Luna on September 13, 2012, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
OK, I have to ask...."analphabets"?

That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.

Illiterates.

I had to look it up.

Thanks.  As it turns out, this word also appeared on the very next page of the book I was reading, so that was doubly useful.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 13, 2012, 06:54:59 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/lying-sarah-palin-somehow-finds-the-dick-humor-in-libya-tragedy/

I can't even...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on September 14, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 13, 2012, 11:30:15 AM
That aside, this guy sounds like he has been reading Breivik's manifesto.
Reading a bit up on this Langeland guy, I think they've been reading the same sources. Found a newspaper interview (http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/15/kultur/nils_rune_langeland/europa/islam/velferdsstaten/17321062/) with him from a week before July 22nd where he uses a lot of uh, familiar imagery:
QuoteJune 10th 1099 was the day the crusader army broke through the walls of Jerusalem during the First Crusade and began a massacre of Muslims. That's when the war started. And the war is still going on today.
QuoteThe elite and the people at the pubs aren't holding a dialogue. They must start talking, or a there will be a disaster. [...] I think Northern Europe will be the battlefield. Remember that there are no successful examples of integration by other cultures in northern Europe. The Norwegian immigration historians are lying. Traditionally, we are a people who have emigrated and exported, not imported.

Now he's just saying he wasn't being serious. Recycling fascist rhetoric and then saying "HA HA, only joking" when confronted with it seems like a main theme throughout his work.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 21, 2012, 02:00:53 PM
I'd have to say, it's an expert opinion, so it MUST be true.

Quote from: Rush Limbaugh"I think it's feminism," he declared. "If it's tied to the last 50 years — the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years — it has to be the feminazis, the chickification and everything else."


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/20/limbaugh-penis/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 21, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
So basically hes saying everybody but me has a small johnson.


Lenin- considering that modern europe is the result of three thousand years of waves of immigration lol

going  back to the slave blood thing- i thought they found slave ancestry for obama either way... On his white mothers side.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 21, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

I liked the misleading disposable income graph chart thing. Because SNAP,  Section 8, school lunch programs, utility bill assistance, Medicaid, and TANF are totally just free moneys that you can use for any old thing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 21, 2012, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on September 21, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

I liked the misleading disposable income graph chart thing. Because SNAP,  Section 8, school lunch programs, utility bill assistance, Medicaid, and TANF are totally just free moneys that you can use for any old thing.

Dammit, poor people have PHONES. Welfare is out of control.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2012, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 21, 2012, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on September 21, 2012, 11:29:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

I liked the misleading disposable income graph chart thing. Because SNAP,  Section 8, school lunch programs, utility bill assistance, Medicaid, and TANF are totally just free moneys that you can use for any old thing.

Dammit, poor people have PHONES. Welfare is out of control.

Insufficient groveling and forelock tugging.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 21, 2012, 11:42:25 PM
Dude, poor people who have cell phones? Who think they deserve to eat and not be homeless and have access to health care? Bastinado the entitled bastards!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 22, 2012, 02:06:11 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on September 21, 2012, 11:42:25 PM
Dude, poor people who have cell phones? Who think they deserve to eat and not be homeless and have access to health care? Bastinado the entitled bastards!

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 04:10:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

And here's where I have to wonder,  do they understand that they're cynically twisting the concept, or do they sincerely believe this horseshit?

At what point does the will to believe take over from the naked cynicsm?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 22, 2012, 05:22:54 AM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 04:10:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

And here's where I have to wonder,  do they understand that they're cynically twisting the concept, or do they sincerely believe this horseshit?

At what point does the will to believe take over from the naked cynicsm?

We're talking about Christianity here. Right?

The same religion that claims a full third of all humans as adherents, 1 billion of which are Catholics even though they are going to hell even though fifty-some-odd-percent of Christians are Catholic, and that Catholics are roughly equivalent to the amount of Muslims  in the world, because Catholics aren't Protestant and therefore not really real Christians, even though most Christians are Catholic like I said and the remainder quibble amongst themselves to such a minute rate as to make Ratzinger jizz his pants in delight? Seriously? You're asking these people if they believe in horseshit when they're killing each over over horseshit and have been for about 500 years? You're asking a group of people with a subdenomination called the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church who will not even pray with members of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America which inherited Davey and Goliath? You're asking these people about horseshit? The same group of people who have splinter groups on one end shouting GODHATESFAGS until their dildoes fall out of their asses vs the other end that goes, "hey man, we're hippies that just use Christianity as a blanket term" on the other? The same group of people that (I have better things to do and you get the point)...

Twid,
Fake  :ninja: Catholic, with friends who are ministers in the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, and had a European passport signed by an Antiochan Orthodox Priest
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 05:33:19 AM
We're talking about Christianity here. Right?

Yes and no.

Perhaps I'm committing a version of the no true Scotsman here, but I sincerely wonder how much of this is Christianty pressed into the service of a cause, and how much of this is a sincere expression of faith.

I know, I know I'm essentially arguing that the source of the bullshit makes all the difference in the flavor of bullshit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2012, 05:37:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

This is amazing.  :horrormirth: I love how she tallies medical assistance programs as "disposable income".

I've earned $60,000 a year, and I can absolutely say flat-out that at the end of the year, even paying $500/month for health insurance, it's a fuckton  more money than living on assistance. IF you can even get assistance.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 22, 2012, 06:05:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 05:33:19 AM
We're talking about Christianity here. Right?

Yes and no.

Perhaps I'm committing a version of the no true Scotsman here, but I sincerely wonder how much of this is Christianty pressed into the service of a cause, and how much of this is a sincere expression of faith.

I know, I know I'm essentially arguing that the source of the bullshit makes all the difference in the flavor of bullshit.

Well, speaking as a former Papist, and a current :ninja: Papist, and considering that we are the One True ChurchTM with full Black Metal benefits as an add on, all Theistic Satanists welcome....

Christian is simple. There's so many types of Christian that you need but look at the word.

A Christian believes that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah promised to the Jewish nation (everything else is... welll.... way crazier than that.... heresy, unless the Pope says otherwise. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tibi.....)

Twid,
Quantum Catholic. Don't look. It will kill the magix.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 22, 2012, 06:08:30 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 22, 2012, 06:05:57 AM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 05:33:19 AM
We're talking about Christianity here. Right?

Yes and no.

Perhaps I'm committing a version of the no true Scotsman here, but I sincerely wonder how much of this is Christianty pressed into the service of a cause, and how much of this is a sincere expression of faith.

I know, I know I'm essentially arguing that the source of the bullshit makes all the difference in the flavor of bullshit.

Well, speaking as a former Papist, and a current :ninja: Papist, and considering that we are the One True ChurchTM with full Black Metal benefits as an add on, all Theistic Satanists welcome....

Christian is simple. There's so many types of Christian that you need but look at the word.

A Christian believes that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah promised to the Jewish nation (everything else is... welll.... way crazier than that.... heresy, unless the Pope says otherwise. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tibi.....)

Twid,
Quantum Catholic. Don't look. It will kill the magix.

Actually, I quite like that.

Quantum Catholic.

TO FACEBOOK!!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 22, 2012, 12:16:53 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 04:10:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

And here's where I have to wonder,  do they understand that they're cynically twisting the concept, or do they sincerely believe this horseshit?

At what point does the will to believe take over from the naked cynicsm?

I often wonder that myself.  I suspect it is unimportant, but it bugs me too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 04:59:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 22, 2012, 12:16:53 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 22, 2012, 04:10:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/09/20/the-poor-get-poorer-3-character-traits-that-undermine-prosperity/?singlepage=true

I think the part I like about this best is this quote:

QuoteGluttonous, slothful, irresponsible and entitled: Today's "poor" are the "rich" Jesus warned us about.

Biblical literalism goes where?  For a fundamentalist, this is terribly inventive, in the same sort of way that, say, Catholicism is.

And here's where I have to wonder,  do they understand that they're cynically twisting the concept, or do they sincerely believe this horseshit?

At what point does the will to believe take over from the naked cynicsm?

I often wonder that myself.  I suspect it is unimportant, but it bugs me too.

Ultimately you're probably right, it's unimportant.  We can't be in someone else's head and know what their motivation is, and even if we could get someone like the quoted author to shoot with us, we'd have to take them at their word that they were shooting, and not working us.  But the desire to know where they're coming from and why they feel justified in turning 2,000 years of their own dogma on its head for what appears to be momentary political justification is still there.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: EK WAFFLR on September 24, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Seriously?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 24, 2012, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 24, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Seriously?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel

Holy fucking hell.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 25, 2012, 12:03:14 AM
Fuck it.  I give up.  The morons win.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on September 25, 2012, 12:44:58 AM
GET OFF MY FUCKING PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 25, 2012, 12:51:30 AM
"Excuse me, Boeing?  Yes, I'd like to commission a special plane, please.  Yes, just bill Mr. Romney's campaign.  Nothing fancy, don't want to look TOO extravagant while he's on the campaign trail, just big enough for the extended family, assorted hangers-on, toadies, flunkies, and so forth.  One of those new 787s will do nicely, I think.

Oh, and make sure the windows in the passenger compartment open, would you?"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on September 25, 2012, 12:57:50 AM
"Pfft, even I know you can only open the windows when you're on the ground." - Sarah Palin
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on September 25, 2012, 02:14:02 AM
I swear to all that is holy, I didn't know he was getting a new campaign plane.

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/08/31/mitt-romney-new-campaign-airplane/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2012, 02:35:21 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 24, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Seriously?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel

FIRE IN AIRCRAFT.  SOLUTION:  OPEN WINDOWS, ALLOW AIR TO BE FORCED IN AT 500MPH. 

IN OUR NEXT LESSON, WE'LL EXPLAIN WHY EVERYONE SHOULD WEAR ANVILS WHILE BOATING.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 25, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 24, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Seriously?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA±!±!±!±!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 25, 2012, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 24, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Seriously?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/mitt-romney-airplane-windows_n_1910930.html?utm_hp_ref=travel
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on September 26, 2012, 06:33:07 AM
I'M TIRED OF THESE MOTHERFUCKING MORONS ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING PLANE
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.

Unfortunately, yes.  If you watch the video rather than read the trascript, he was making a joke.  Or, a "joke".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ayotollah of Ass on September 26, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.

Unfortunately, yes.  If you watch the video rather than read the trascript, he was making a joke.  Or, a "joke".

I pay more for awkward politicians and sales people. Why can't this guy just fund some smooth talking jackass to run his government for him, like other billionaires?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on September 26, 2012, 04:34:55 PM
Citizenship, according to Orly Taitz and friends, primarily passes through the father.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: (http://lawsonry.com/2012/09/birthers-are-somehow-still-a-thing/)
QuoteApparently four years and two birth certificate releases later, there are still people who believe that President Barack Obama was not born in this country, which would legally bar him from being president. And now, the birther brain trust – backed by such sophisticated political minds as Donald Trump and Orly Taitz – is trying to codify their nonsense into actual laws.

In February, the Arizona legislature passed a bill that would would require "certain proofs" of citizenship for a presidential candidate to appear on the state's ballot. The bill would require long term birth certificates as well as early baptismal and/or circumcision records. The bill was vetoed by Jan Brewer, who was shocked by the legislation despite the many controversial bills she has signed in the past. "I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their 'early baptismal or circumcision certificates' among other records to the Arizona Secretary of State," Brewer wrote in her veto decision. "This is a bridge too far." The bill originally passed by a small margin, and there was no attempt to overturn the veto.

Apparently, Kansas's Board of Elections did not agree with the Arizona governor. Just last week, Kansas finally decided to put President Barack Obama on ballot. That's right – Kansas Republicans were contesting the incumbent president's qualifications to even appear on the ballot. The Kansas Objections Board delayed officially adding Obama's name to the ballot based on high-profile birther protests, but ultimately conceded after the executive branch sent a copy of the already released long-form birth certificate.

Unbelievably, that's not the end of the issue. Orly Taitz, the denist/lawyer turned career birther, is suing to get the president's name off of the ballot. A Kansas judge has granted Taitz an October 3rd hearing, in which the courts will decide whether or not to move forward with the lawsuit to overturn the Objections Board's September decision. Taitz and other objectors are claiming that they were not allowed to testify or present the relevant evidence, and the original objector was intimidated from doing so.

What is this "evidence?" It isn't just the same racist paranoia that has fueled the birtherism since 2009 – this "evidence" has a sexist element too. According to the objection filed against Obama's eligibility, citizenship comes "primarily" from the father, making Obama not "primarily" a US citizen. Actually, citizenship comes from having one parent who is a US national for Americans born overseas, or from being born on US soil. Of course, Obama meets both of those requirements, an this idea of citizenship being passed down through the father's lineage has no basis in the Constitution. But the motto of the birther movement seems to be, "Why let facts get in the way of some good old fashioned bigotry?"

Apparently Joe Montgomery, the Kansas resident who submitted this objection has withdrawn it, citing threats against him and his family. Taitz, who is not a Kansas resident, could not testify to the aforementioned citizenship theory, and was granted a hearing when she posited that Montgomery did not legitimately withdraw his objection but did so "under duress."
[snip]
This is honestly the best.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 26, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
OMG I'm so embarrassed I used to live there and call it home...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2012, 05:23:20 PM
Orly Taitz, still struggling to stay in the limelight.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: Ayotollah of Assehollah on September 26, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.

Unfortunately, yes.  If you watch the video rather than read the trascript, he was making a joke.  Or, a "joke".

I pay more for awkward politicians and sales people. Why can't this guy just fund some smooth talking jackass to run his government for him, like other billionaires?

Because we've got 200 years of history telling them that they're fucking geniuses for having so much money.  They've done the one thing that is fatal to any endeavor, they believe their own hype.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: Ayotollah of Assehollah on September 26, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.

Unfortunately, yes.  If you watch the video rather than read the trascript, he was making a joke.  Or, a "joke".

I pay more for awkward politicians and sales people. Why can't this guy just fund some smooth talking jackass to run his government for him, like other billionaires?

Because we've got 200 years of history telling them that they're fucking geniuses for having so much money.  They've done the one thing that is fatal to any endeavor, they believe their own hype.

And that, RIGHT FUCKING THERE, is why this century has been so fucking funny.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
Republicans are now expanding their war on reality to "polls", which are, apparently, full of liberal bias.

In particular, Robert Stacey McCain, formerly (currently?) of the Moonie Times notes:

Quote@jaycosttws Like Darwinism and global-warming theory, poll-based coverage involves the illusion of "scientific" certainty.

— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) September 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/rsmccain/status/250836704473251840

Point and laugh, children, point and laugh.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on September 27, 2012, 03:18:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: Ayotollah of Assehollah on September 26, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Internet Jesus on September 26, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
I don't really think Romney meant his comment the way it's been taken.  Yeah, if you take it that way it becomes pretty lame and sad.

But it was Mormon Humor.  And this is the guy who said that Michigan was a great place to be, because the trees were just the right height. He's not stupid, he's just terribly awkward.

Unfortunately, yes.  If you watch the video rather than read the trascript, he was making a joke.  Or, a "joke".

I pay more for awkward politicians and sales people. Why can't this guy just fund some smooth talking jackass to run his government for him, like other billionaires?

Because we've got 200 years of history telling them that they're fucking geniuses for having so much money.  They've done the one thing that is fatal to any endeavor, they believe their own hype.

And that, RIGHT FUCKING THERE, is why this century has been so fucking funny.

Ice Cube said it best back in '87 - to be a dealer you must qualify, don't get high of your own supply.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 03, 2012, 11:38:11 PM
THIS BAYBEE SLAUGHTER HAS GOT TO STOP, DOCTORS ARE GIVING ABORTIONS TO WOMEN WHO AREN'T EVEN PREGNANT! AKIN SAID SO!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139086/-Todd-Akin-Doctors-Give-Abortions-To-Women-Who-Are-Not-Actually-Pregnant

"Here is a part of the speech he gave in the House.

"Who wants to be at the very bottom of the food chain of the medical profession? And what sort of places do these bottom-of-the-food-chain doctors work in? Places that are really a pit. You find that along with the culture of death go all kinds of other law-breaking: not following good sanitary procedure, giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant, cheating on taxes, all these kinds of things, misuse of anesthetics so that people die or almost die. All of these things are common practice, and all of that information is available for America."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Placid Dingo on October 05, 2012, 12:40:07 AM
Democrats are vile sadists, enjoy stabbing, poisoning.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/candidate-for-maine-state-senate-attacked-for-warcraft-character/?utm_source=BIG+DOGS+BIG+DOGS+LANDING+ON+MY+HEAD
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 05, 2012, 01:55:25 AM
(http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/white-people-dancing-gif.gif)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on October 05, 2012, 02:11:32 AM
Please let me assure all of you that not everyone in TRONE is batshit stupid.  But there is way more batshit stupid in my state than I am comfortable with. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on October 05, 2012, 02:33:27 AM
That's because TRONE is, demonstrably, part of Tucson.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 05, 2012, 02:39:56 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 05, 2012, 02:33:27 AM
That's because TRONE is, demonstrably, part of Tucson.

So is Boston.  I can prove it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on October 05, 2012, 03:09:20 AM
Doo it, ya fahkin queeah!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on October 05, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 05, 2012, 02:33:27 AM
That's because TRONE is, demonstrably, part of Tucson.


OR, is it the other way around?  I mean, technically, we've been around longer.  Perhaps Tucson was infected by an early nomadic band of TRONEites.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 05, 2012, 01:21:35 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 05, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 05, 2012, 02:33:27 AM
That's because TRONE is, demonstrably, part of Tucson.


OR, is it the other way around?  I mean, technically, we've been around longer.  Perhaps Tucson was infected by an early nomadic band of TRONEites.

Tucson has been around forever.  There has never not been a Tucson.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 05, 2012, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 05, 2012, 03:09:20 AM
Doo it, ya fahkin queeah!

1.  They shut the cool bar down.
2.  Scholley Square.
3.  Boston never ends.
4.  You have wastelands to the South.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on October 05, 2012, 01:23:36 PM
I concede your point.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: inode_buddha on October 06, 2012, 11:45:10 PM
Just in case you need some crazy:

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/10/06/2038259/us-house-science-committee-member-evolution-is-a-lie-from-hell

""Representative Paul Broun (Georgia Republican) said that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are 'lies straight from the pit of hell' meant to convince people that they do not need a savior. It would not be quite as shocking if Broun did not sit on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology"
.
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: inode_buddha on October 07, 2012, 12:59:36 AM
And yet another one... its getting pretty bad when the state-level GOP tries to distance itself from you... this time in Arkansas (no surprises there)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ark-gop-calls-candidates-statements-offensive-17414343
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on October 07, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on October 06, 2012, 11:45:10 PM
Just in case you need some crazy:

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/10/06/2038259/us-house-science-committee-member-evolution-is-a-lie-from-hell

""Representative Paul Broun (Georgia Republican) said that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are 'lies straight from the pit of hell' meant to convince people that they do not need a savior. It would not be quite as shocking if Broun did not sit on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology"
.
:horrormirth:

Geez. If you don't like a tv show, you don't have to watch it.  :wink:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 07, 2012, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on October 07, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on October 06, 2012, 11:45:10 PM
Just in case you need some crazy:

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/10/06/2038259/us-house-science-committee-member-evolution-is-a-lie-from-hell

""Representative Paul Broun (Georgia Republican) said that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are 'lies straight from the pit of hell' meant to convince people that they do not need a savior. It would not be quite as shocking if Broun did not sit on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology"
.
:horrormirth:

Geez. If you don't like a tv show, you don't have to watch it.  :wink:

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 07, 2012, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on October 07, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on October 06, 2012, 11:45:10 PM
Just in case you need some crazy:

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/10/06/2038259/us-house-science-committee-member-evolution-is-a-lie-from-hell

""Representative Paul Broun (Georgia Republican) said that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are 'lies straight from the pit of hell' meant to convince people that they do not need a savior. It would not be quite as shocking if Broun did not sit on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology"
.
:horrormirth:

Geez. If you don't like a tv show, you don't have to watch it.  :wink:

I CANT STOP WATCHING IT. EVEN WHEN I SLEEP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBN5F_UaqOA&feature=plcp
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
As I recall, my mocking of The Big Bang Theory led indirectly to the dissolution of EBG.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 07, 2012, 09:28:45 PM
...Seriously?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
Yes.  I mocked The Big Bang Theory, which led to Hawk deleting every thread he disagreed with, the epic meltdown which preceded Faust taking away control of the site entirely.

To be fair, it was already spiralling out of control by that point, and something would have eventually given, but that is why I said "indirectly".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 07, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
That's bafflingly stupid.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 07, 2012, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
Yes.  I mocked The Big Bang Theory, which led to Hawk deleting every thread he disagreed with, the epic meltdown which preceded Faust taking away control of the site entirely.

To be fair, it was already spiralling out of control by that point, and something would have eventually given, but that is why I said "indirectly".

Wow  :lulz:

By then I think I wasn't even going there to read, so I missed all of the drama of the final meltdown.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2012, 09:56:04 PM
It started about here (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,29010.msg1160746.html#msg1160746).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 07, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
Yep. That's when old Uncle Charley started having his "spells".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 07, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
That was so weird, to see Charley go batshit like that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 08, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
Yes.  I mocked The Big Bang Theory, which led to Hawk deleting every thread he disagreed with, the epic meltdown which preceded Faust taking away control of the site entirely.

To be fair, it was already spiralling out of control by that point, and something would have eventually given, but that is why I said "indirectly".

Sure.  The actual event that directly caused the explosion, driven by you (above) and me (over the Eartha thing) was when Charley unmodded everyone but me, then tried to cripple the mod group, which fucked the board entirely.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 08, 2012, 06:21:48 AM
Yes.

And I still haven't watched a single episode of The Big Bang Theory.  I don't feel like I'm missing out, though.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on October 08, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 08, 2012, 06:21:48 AM
Yes.

And I still haven't watched a single episode of The Big Bang Theory.  I don't feel like I'm missing out, though.

I watched five minutes of it. I turned it off when they played a laugh track after a character said "Hello." No joke, just "Hello."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 08, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
If it was Sheldon, there's maybe a reason. It's Sheldon.

The show is actually very funny sometimes, but equally often not and sometimes extremely offensive.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: inode_buddha on October 09, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/charlie-fuqua-arkansas-candidate-death-penalty-rebellious-children_n_1948490.html?google_editors_picks=true
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 09, 2012, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on October 09, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/charlie-fuqua-arkansas-candidate-death-penalty-rebellious-children_n_1948490.html?google_editors_picks=true

Beat you to it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on October 09, 2012, 08:22:53 PM
Arkansas Rep. Loy Mauch : 'If slavery were so God-awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn't there a war before 1861?'

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/09/975021/arkansas-state-rep-if-slavery-were-so-god-awful-why-didnt-jesus-or-paul-condemn-it/?mobile=nc
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Internet Jesus on October 09, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 08, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
If it was Sheldon, there's maybe a reason. It's Sheldon.

The show is actually very funny sometimes, but equally often not and sometimes extremely offensive.

It's Amos and Andy in nerdface.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 09, 2012, 11:34:44 PM
A little bit, yes.


The CEO Who Built Himself America's Largest House Just Threatened to Fire His Employees if Obama's Elected (https://gawker.com/5950189/the-ceo-who-built-himself-americas-largest-house-just-threatened-to-fire-his-employees-if-obamas-elected)
Quote
David Siegel is the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, a huge national timeshare company and one of the largest resort developers in the world. In 2007 he was a billionaire, although he may be only a hundred-millionaire now. He and his wife Jackie were the subjects of the recent documentary "The Queen of Versailles," about their ongoing quest to build the largest house in America, a 90,000 square foot monument to excess. And yesterday, David Siegel sent an email to all of his thousands of employees, in which he—in a veiled way—insinuated that they would be fired of Barack Obama is reelected.
UPDATE: Shortly after we posted this letter, we found out, thanks to multiple readers, that it bore suspicious resemblances to a popular chain letter that was circulated just before the 2008 elections. Well, we just got off the phone with David Siegel, who told us the letter below is real, and that it was sent out to all of his employees yesterday. "I did use the letter that had circulated before as a guideline, but I changed it [to fit my circumstances]," he told us. "It speaks the truth and it gives [employees] something to think about when they go to the polls." He also said that its threats of possible layoffs are real, based on his assessment of the political and economic climate. He added that he "hasn't had any negative feedback" on the letter.

The Florida-based Westgate Resorts is not a public company. It is the domain of David Siegel, a staunch Republican. In fact, Siegel has publicly claimed credit for George W. Bush defeating Al Gore, saying "I had my managers do a survey on every employee [8,000 total]. If they liked Bush, we made them register to vote. But not if they liked Gore."

"The Queen of Versailles" depicts the dashing of Siegel's mansion dreams after the recession hit. But just months ago, he restarted construction on his personal Palace of Versailles (with the intention of selling it for $100 million) and told Reuters, "We're the most profitable we've ever been."

Huge mansion. Huge fortune. Profitable company. What could David Siegal have to complain about? Well, the demonization of the 1% by Barack Obama, for one thing. This truly amazing email went out to all Westgate employees yesterday. Bolding is ours.
QuoteSubject: Message from David Siegel
Date:Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:58:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: [David Siegel]
To: [All employees]

To All My Valued Employees,

As most of you know our company, Westgate Resorts, has continued to succeed in spite of a very dismal economy. There is no question that the economy has changed for the worse and we have not seen any improvement over the past four years. In spite of all of the challenges we have faced, the good news is this: The economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration. Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. In fact, I encourage you to vote for whomever you think will serve your interests the best.

However, let me share a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.The current administration and members of the press have perpetuated an environment that casts employers against employees. They want you to believe that we live in a class system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. They label us the "1%" and imply that we are somehow immune to the challenges that face our country. This could not be further from the truth. Sure, you may have heard about the big home that I'm building. I'm sure many people think that I live a privileged life. However, what you don't see or hear is the true story behind any success that I have achieved.

I started this company over 42 years ago. At that time, I lived in a very modest home. I converted my garage into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. We didn't eat in fancy restaurants or take expensive vacations because every dollar I made went back into this company. I drove an old used car, and often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, many of my friends got regular jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a nice income, and they spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into this business —-with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford to buy whatever I wanted. Even to this day, every dime I earn goes back into this company. Over the past four years I have had to stop building my dream house, cut back on all of my expenses, and take my kids out of private schools simply to keep this company strong and to keep you employed.

Just think about this – most of you arrive at work in the morning and leave that afternoon and the rest of your time is yours to do as you please. But not me- there is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have that freedom.

I eat, live, and breathe this company every minute of the day, every day of the week. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. I know many of you work hard and do a great job, but I'm the one who has to sign every check, pay every expense, and make sure that this company continues to succeed. Unfortunately, what most people see is the nice house and the lavish lifestyle. What the press certainly does not want you to see, is the true story of the hard work and sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don't pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?

Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, that's what happens to me.

Here is what most people don't understand and the press and our Government has chosen to ignore – to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Instead of raising my taxes and depositing that money into the Washington black-hole, let me spend it on growing the company, hire more employees, and generate substantial economic growth. My employees will enjoy the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But that is not what our current Government wants you to believe. They want you to believe that it somehow makes sense to take more from those who create wealth and give it to those who do not, and somehow our economy will improve. They don't want you to know that the "1%", as they like to label us, pay more than 31% of all the taxes in this country. Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple.If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel
I am very, very glad for private voting right now.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Sano on October 10, 2012, 12:58:18 AM
Quote
QuoteYou see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Quotea system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Quotea system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 10, 2012, 01:01:54 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 09, 2012, 11:34:44 PM
A little bit, yes.


The CEO Who Built Himself America's Largest House Just Threatened to Fire His Employees if Obama's Elected (https://gawker.com/5950189/the-ceo-who-built-himself-americas-largest-house-just-threatened-to-fire-his-employees-if-obamas-elected)
Quote
David Siegel is the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, a huge national timeshare company and one of the largest resort developers in the world. In 2007 he was a billionaire, although he may be only a hundred-millionaire now. He and his wife Jackie were the subjects of the recent documentary "The Queen of Versailles," about their ongoing quest to build the largest house in America, a 90,000 square foot monument to excess. And yesterday, David Siegel sent an email to all of his thousands of employees, in which he—in a veiled way—insinuated that they would be fired of Barack Obama is reelected.
UPDATE: Shortly after we posted this letter, we found out, thanks to multiple readers, that it bore suspicious resemblances to a popular chain letter that was circulated just before the 2008 elections. Well, we just got off the phone with David Siegel, who told us the letter below is real, and that it was sent out to all of his employees yesterday. "I did use the letter that had circulated before as a guideline, but I changed it [to fit my circumstances]," he told us. "It speaks the truth and it gives [employees] something to think about when they go to the polls." He also said that its threats of possible layoffs are real, based on his assessment of the political and economic climate. He added that he "hasn't had any negative feedback" on the letter.

The Florida-based Westgate Resorts is not a public company. It is the domain of David Siegel, a staunch Republican. In fact, Siegel has publicly claimed credit for George W. Bush defeating Al Gore, saying "I had my managers do a survey on every employee [8,000 total]. If they liked Bush, we made them register to vote. But not if they liked Gore."

"The Queen of Versailles" depicts the dashing of Siegel's mansion dreams after the recession hit. But just months ago, he restarted construction on his personal Palace of Versailles (with the intention of selling it for $100 million) and told Reuters, "We're the most profitable we've ever been."

Huge mansion. Huge fortune. Profitable company. What could David Siegal have to complain about? Well, the demonization of the 1% by Barack Obama, for one thing. This truly amazing email went out to all Westgate employees yesterday. Bolding is ours.
QuoteSubject: Message from David Siegel
Date:Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:58:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: [David Siegel]
To: [All employees]

To All My Valued Employees,

As most of you know our company, Westgate Resorts, has continued to succeed in spite of a very dismal economy. There is no question that the economy has changed for the worse and we have not seen any improvement over the past four years. In spite of all of the challenges we have faced, the good news is this: The economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration. Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. In fact, I encourage you to vote for whomever you think will serve your interests the best.

However, let me share a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.The current administration and members of the press have perpetuated an environment that casts employers against employees. They want you to believe that we live in a class system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. They label us the "1%" and imply that we are somehow immune to the challenges that face our country. This could not be further from the truth. Sure, you may have heard about the big home that I'm building. I'm sure many people think that I live a privileged life. However, what you don't see or hear is the true story behind any success that I have achieved.

I started this company over 42 years ago. At that time, I lived in a very modest home. I converted my garage into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. We didn't eat in fancy restaurants or take expensive vacations because every dollar I made went back into this company. I drove an old used car, and often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, many of my friends got regular jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a nice income, and they spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into this business —-with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford to buy whatever I wanted. Even to this day, every dime I earn goes back into this company. Over the past four years I have had to stop building my dream house, cut back on all of my expenses, and take my kids out of private schools simply to keep this company strong and to keep you employed.

Just think about this – most of you arrive at work in the morning and leave that afternoon and the rest of your time is yours to do as you please. But not me- there is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have that freedom.

I eat, live, and breathe this company every minute of the day, every day of the week. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. I know many of you work hard and do a great job, but I'm the one who has to sign every check, pay every expense, and make sure that this company continues to succeed. Unfortunately, what most people see is the nice house and the lavish lifestyle. What the press certainly does not want you to see, is the true story of the hard work and sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don't pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?

Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, that's what happens to me.

Here is what most people don't understand and the press and our Government has chosen to ignore – to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Instead of raising my taxes and depositing that money into the Washington black-hole, let me spend it on growing the company, hire more employees, and generate substantial economic growth. My employees will enjoy the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But that is not what our current Government wants you to believe. They want you to believe that it somehow makes sense to take more from those who create wealth and give it to those who do not, and somehow our economy will improve. They don't want you to know that the "1%", as they like to label us, pay more than 31% of all the taxes in this country. Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple.If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel
I am very, very glad for private voting right now.

He's going to end up paying out a shit ton of unemployment.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 10, 2012, 01:04:28 AM
I sure hope so. That would convince me to vote for obama and get my resume together regardless of outcome.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 10, 2012, 04:45:42 AM
OBAMA HAS A RING WITH SOOPER SEKRIT MOOZLIM CODE!!!!!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

QuoteAs a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama's practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.

Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple's wedding ceremony in 1992.

Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: "There is no God except Allah."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 10, 2012, 03:25:18 PM
But just last month, WND were also pushing the theory that said ring was a "wedding ring" and Obama was gaymarried to an Islamic extremist (seriously, I'm not making this up).

What am I to believe?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on October 10, 2012, 03:33:30 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0UgI8cO_3sc/UHWHCZoPx4I/AAAAAAAAAko/Mh3BKy_6ArI/s453/Believe+everything.bmp)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 10, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
:spittake:

He's got a HAREM of wives and gay Islamic extremists. He's the PRESIDENT.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 24, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it's something God intended."

No shit.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on October 24, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
Omniscient, omnipotent uberfuhrer? how could it be any other way?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 24, 2012, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 24, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it's something God intended."

No shit.

This fits perfectly with my "God's a dick" theory.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 24, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on October 24, 2012, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 24, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it's something God intended."

No shit.

This fits perfectly with my "God's a dick" theory.

I've often referred to that as the "Malevolent Deity" theory.

But I'm more inclined to believe that God didn't do this, WE did this and blamed it on God.  I refer to this as "God is a Patsy". 

Or maybe not.  Maybe he just gives jackasses enough rope to hang themselves with.  You always hear commercials about how YOU DESERVE whatever they're selling.  Well, maybe - just maybe - the whole "God's plan" thing is to give people what they DESERVE if they scream loud enough about it.

That notion of an afterlife makes me laugh.  Not a good, healthy laugh.  No.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 24, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
Also, if God intended that rape, then how can we possibly punish the rapist?  He had no choice in the matter, did he?  In fact, if everything is predestined, then there's no free will, and therefore no sin.

Way to go, Mourdock:  You just made your entire religion vanish in a puff of apologism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 24, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
The trick is to RAPERAPERAPE and then right before you die, say "I accept Jebus as my personal savior".  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 24, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 24, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
Also, if God intended that rape, then how can we possibly punish the rapist?  He had no choice in the matter, did he?  In fact, if everything is predestined, then there's no free will, and therefore no sin.

Way to go, Mourdock:  You just made your entire religion vanish in a puff of apologism.

Maybe he's a Calvinist?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 24, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on October 24, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 24, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
Also, if God intended that rape, then how can we possibly punish the rapist?  He had no choice in the matter, did he?  In fact, if everything is predestined, then there's no free will, and therefore no sin.

Way to go, Mourdock:  You just made your entire religion vanish in a puff of apologism.

Maybe he's a Calvinist?  :lulz:

Maybe:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mourdock

QuoteDuring his second term as state treasurer, it was discovered that $526 million dollars in tax revenues were placed in the wrong bank accounts. When the first discovered, less than half that amount was found, the balance being found at a later date. Auditors are still looking into the state finances to see if additional monies were mishandled. With over half a billion dollars floundering in the wrong bank accounts, local governments throughout the state, who should have received these funds, were forced to cut back on services, including laying off personnel.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on October 25, 2012, 01:02:27 AM
So THAT'S why Romney belly-flopped during the last debate.  God TOLD him to lose...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/24/beck-god-guided-romney-to-lose-final-debate/

Beck says so, it MUST be true.  :vom:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 25, 2012, 03:14:33 AM
It's God's finger

Romney got fingered by God.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on October 25, 2012, 05:10:32 AM
BREAKING NEWS! Sarah Palin is still ignorant as fuck!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/palin-accuses-obama-shuck-jive-schtick-212555554--politics.html

NEWS FLASH!

Ann Coulter - still as ignorant as fuck too!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/special-olympics-athlete-takes-ann-coulter-task-over-120626285--oly.html
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 25, 2012, 05:38:20 AM
HA HA HA HA HA (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/greg-abbott-texas-un-elections_n_2010081.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false)

QuoteGreg Abbott, the Republican Attorney General of Texas, issued a stern warning this week to members of a United Nations-affiliated delegation expected to be on hand to monitor voting at polling places around the country on Election Day.

In a letter to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, a body created by U.N. charter and responsible for helping to ensure the integrity of elections, among other tasks, Abbott warned the diplomatic poll-watchers that their involvement in U.S. elections could have strong legal repercussions.

"It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance," he writes. "Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law."

QuoteUPDATE: 3:10 p.m. EST -- Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), responded in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying that Abbott's threat put the state of Texas at odds with an agreement between the body and state authorities.

"The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable," Lenarčič said. "The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections."

Lenarčič took issue with insinuations that officials in the group would meddle with elections, reiterating that they were bound by national laws and regulations, as well as their own strict code of conduct.

Suck it, Abbott.
:lulz:  :fap: :lulz: :fap: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
You know who else hates the OSCE monitoring their elections?  Russia.

To be fair, there is large evidence that the OSCE covered up Yeltsin stealing the vote of hundreds of thousands of Chechens who his soldiers and security forces killed or displaced, so....

Somehow, I do not think this is uppermost in Republican minds when they worry about election monitoring, however.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 25, 2012, 06:20:55 AM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 24, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday when a woman is impregnated during a rape, "it's something God intended."

No shit.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/4674/66488242465198092968012.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on October 25, 2012, 06:25:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
You know who else hates the OSCE monitoring their elections?  Russia.

To be fair, there is large evidence that the OSCE covered up Yeltsin stealing the vote of hundreds of thousands of Chechens who his soldiers and security forces killed or displaced, so....

Somehow, I do not think this is uppermost in Republican minds when they worry about election monitoring, however.

Sometimes I think I don't understand anything about people, and never will.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 25, 2012, 06:31:26 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
You know who else hates the OSCE monitoring their elections?  Russia.

To be fair, there is large evidence that the OSCE covered up Yeltsin stealing the vote of hundreds of thousands of Chechens who his soldiers and security forces killed or displaced, so....

Somehow, I do not think this is uppermost in Republican minds when they worry about election monitoring, however.

It's the last thing they're worried about.  :horrormirth: And damn.  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2012, 07:00:25 AM
The election was between Yeltsin and the Communist party.

The Communist Party were very close to winning, so millions in funds were made available to the oligarchs by Yeltsin and with the blessing of the US, with the obvious but unstated command be "win this thing, or else you're going to lose all of this".  The OSCE turned a blind eye to entirely bombed out Chechen villages voting for Yeltsin 100%.  Because you know, people typically vote for people who send in the army to destroy their homes and kill their families.

People wonder why Putin is so popular?  Mostly because he put the oligarchs in place and, while not being Very Nice At All, didn't pull shit like this. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 25, 2012, 07:23:23 AM
I hope Russia can return to its former glory someday soon. I feel like I missed out on the really interesting parts of having a Great Big Monolithic Enemy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: inode_buddha on October 25, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: V3X on October 25, 2012, 07:23:23 AM
I hope Russia can return to its former glory someday soon. I feel like I missed out on the really interesting parts of having a Great Big Monolithic Enemy.

Damn now I feel old...

Having said that, it was quite nice and convenient at the time. Things were *much* simpler.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 25, 2012, 07:01:44 PM
I bet. "THEY'RE A COMMUNAST!" was enough to shut down an entire idea, yes?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 25, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 25, 2012, 07:01:44 PM
I bet. "THEY'RE A COMMUNAST!" was enough to shut down an entire idea, yes?

It could do a lot more than that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on October 25, 2012, 07:03:14 PM
Well, ruining the idea-holder's career aside. Or getting them killed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 01, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFLBYsFvpY&feature=youtu.be

Mitt Romney explains how Jesus will rule the world from his headquarters in Missouri.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 01, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
:lulz:
"But back to Abortion.."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 01, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 01, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFLBYsFvpY&feature=youtu.be

Mitt Romney explains how Jesus will rule the world from his headquarters in Missouri.

Maybe it'll be in Branson so people can catch Kenny Rogers while waiting to get their leprosy healed.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2012, 10:10:18 PM
Im unable to watch the video but isnt that pretty much what all mormons believe anyway?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 01, 2012, 10:47:27 PM
Yes.  :horrormirth:

It's just creepy batshit hearing it from a guy running for office. You never heard the Kennedys spouting Catholic dogma.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Good perspective. It drives me nuts that this is a cryptotheocracy these days. We have separation of church and state by law but if you dont go to church every sunday no one will vote for you. Its like its a european monarchy where the head of state is required to have church membership. Only our head of state hs a little wiggle room when it comes to denomination
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 02, 2012, 03:17:27 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Good perspective. It drives me nuts that this is a cryptotheocracy these days. We have separation of church and state by law but if you dont go to church every sunday no one will vote for you. Its like its a european monarchy where the head of state is required to have church membership. Only our head of state hs a little wiggle room when it comes to denomination

The same separation of church & state whereby the Presidential inauguration is preceded by an 'invocation' followed by a swearing in ceremony on a Bible.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 02, 2012, 04:26:31 AM
Quote from: V3X on November 01, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
:lulz:
"But back to Abortion.."

That was an awesome place to cut that clip, now that I've seen it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 05, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on November 02, 2012, 03:17:27 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Good perspective. It drives me nuts that this is a cryptotheocracy these days. We have separation of church and state by law but if you dont go to church every sunday no one will vote for you. Its like its a european monarchy where the head of state is required to have church membership. Only our head of state hs a little wiggle room when it comes to denomination

The same separation of church & state whereby the Presidential inauguration is preceded by an 'invocation' followed by a swearing in ceremony on a Bible.

Note: Swearing in is NOT required to be on a Bible.  Teddy Roosevelt did not use a Bible, John Q. Adams swore in on a book of law. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....

No they don't.  They threw Jefferson out of the Texas schoolbooks, IIRC, because he was a Godless hippie.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 05, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 05, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on November 02, 2012, 03:17:27 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Good perspective. It drives me nuts that this is a cryptotheocracy these days. We have separation of church and state by law but if you dont go to church every sunday no one will vote for you. Its like its a european monarchy where the head of state is required to have church membership. Only our head of state hs a little wiggle room when it comes to denomination

The same separation of church & state whereby the Presidential inauguration is preceded by an 'invocation' followed by a swearing in ceremony on a Bible.

Note: Swearing in is NOT required to be on a Bible.  Teddy Roosevelt did not use a Bible, John Q. Adams swore in on a book of law
.


Aha! Thank you for the update. Didn't know that   :)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 05, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Roosevelt was actually sworn in on a copy of the Necronomicon, bound in the freshly stripped flesh of children and gifted to him by J.P. Morgan.

Trufax, ITT
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 05, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new

Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Roosevelt was actually sworn in on a copy of the Necronomicon, bound in the freshly stripped flesh of children and gifted to him by J.P. Morgan.

Trufax, ITT

I see your insanity good sir and raise you a:

http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new 

(Aleister Crowley blamed for 9/11)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....

No they don't.  They threw Jefferson out of the Texas schoolbooks, IIRC, because he was a Godless hippie.

a good chunk of them do.  the survivalist, don't-tread-on-me, section love Jefferson and they are in an alliance right now with the religious right , but perhaps it would be an interesting wedge...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2012, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....

No they don't.  They threw Jefferson out of the Texas schoolbooks, IIRC, because he was a Godless hippie.

a good chunk of them do.  the survivalist, don't-tread-on-me, section love Jefferson and they are in an alliance right now with the religious right , but perhaps it would be an interesting wedge...

Balls.  Show them anything Jefferson wrote, and they'll be lining up to lynch the old hippie.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....

No they don't.  They threw Jefferson out of the Texas schoolbooks, IIRC, because he was a Godless hippie.

a good chunk of them do.  the survivalist, don't-tread-on-me, section love Jefferson and they are in an alliance right now with the religious right , but perhaps it would be an interesting wedge...

Balls.  Show them anything Jefferson wrote, and they'll be lining up to lynch the old hippie.

perhaps you're right.  i still think it would be a good exercise to see the reaction of using the jefferson bible for swearing in.
at the very least, it would further lessen their claim on being 'in the spirit of the founders'...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 05, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
what would be the GOP reaction of a president swearing in on a Jefferson Bible, which strips out the mysticism?
they love the hocus pocus, but they love the Jefferson, too....

No they don't.  They threw Jefferson out of the Texas schoolbooks, IIRC, because he was a Godless hippie.

a good chunk of them do.  the survivalist, don't-tread-on-me, section love Jefferson and they are in an alliance right now with the religious right , but perhaps it would be an interesting wedge...

Balls.  Show them anything Jefferson wrote, and they'll be lining up to lynch the old hippie.

perhaps you're right.  i still think it would be a good exercise to see the reaction of using the jefferson bible for swearing in.
at the very least, it would further lessen their claim on being 'in the spirit of the founders'...

What's really funny is that most of those tards think:

1.  Jefferson penned the constitution, and

2.  Benjamin Franklin was one of the early presidents.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
i think you're right on the first point.
But, it says Benjamin was a president right there on the hunnert dollar bill!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 05, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
i think you're right on the first point.
But, it says Benjamin was a president right there on the hunnert dollar bill!

He was president right after Alexander Hamilton.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 05, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Thread delivers.

What do you guys make of this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/chris-christie-mitt-romney_n_2079371.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on November 05, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Thread delivers.

What do you guys make of this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/chris-christie-mitt-romney_n_2079371.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

OWNAGE.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 12:12:31 AM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 06, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on November 05, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Thread delivers.

What do you guys make of this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/chris-christie-mitt-romney_n_2079371.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

OWNAGE.

Not QUITE Christie staring at Romney slack-jawed and asking, "What the fuck, man, I have WORK to do," but I'll take it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 06, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on November 05, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new

Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Roosevelt was actually sworn in on a copy of the Necronomicon, bound in the freshly stripped flesh of children and gifted to him by J.P. Morgan.

Trufax, ITT

I see your insanity good sir and raise you a:

http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new 

(Aleister Crowley blamed for 9/11)

Uncle Al would approve.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 06, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 06, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on November 05, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new

Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Roosevelt was actually sworn in on a copy of the Necronomicon, bound in the freshly stripped flesh of children and gifted to him by J.P. Morgan.

Trufax, ITT

I see your insanity good sir and raise you a:

http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new 

(Aleister Crowley blamed for 9/11)

Uncle Al would approve.  :lulz:

I thought you'd like that  :)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 06, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/abortion-rape-focus-of-new-akin-ad-new-funding-a-mystery/

Fucking Akin puts up a video featuring a woman who states she was raped, and implies that the abortion she had, she regrets.  Note, she never says (and a campaign spokesman say she doesn't know) that the abortion was from a pregancy cause by the rape.   :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 07, 2012, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 06, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/abortion-rape-focus-of-new-akin-ad-new-funding-a-mystery/

Fucking Akin puts up a video featuring a woman who states she was raped, and implies that the abortion she had, she regrets.  Note, she never says (and a campaign spokesman say she doesn't know) that the abortion was from a pregancy cause by the rape.   :argh!:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8876688

Buh bye stupid Pro-rape person!  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: dontblameyoko on November 07, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on November 05, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new

Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2012, 04:41:23 PM
Roosevelt was actually sworn in on a copy of the Necronomicon, bound in the freshly stripped flesh of children and gifted to him by J.P. Morgan.

Trufax, ITT

I see your insanity good sir and raise you a:

http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php?topic=5893.msg72965;topicseen#new 

(Aleister Crowley blamed for 9/11)

:lulz: i guess they didn't realize Al-Qaeda would hate Crowley for sometimes sexing guys and also...oh yeah that's right...not being Muslim!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 12:49:26 PM
QuoteAl-Qaeda would hate Crowley for sometimes sexing guys

Here's an irony for you: when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, they banned the frankly despicable "dancing boy" or bacha bazi practice, whereby young boys would be kept for the purposes of sex and entertainment by older men.  It was essentially culturally permitted paedophilia. 

Now that the Taliban are gone, the practice is thriving again in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on November 08, 2012, 05:07:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 08, 2012, 12:49:26 PM
QuoteAl-Qaeda would hate Crowley for sometimes sexing guys

Here's an irony for you: when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, they banned the frankly despicable "dancing boy" or bacha bazi practice, whereby young boys would be kept for the purposes of sex and entertainment by older men.  It was essentially culturally permitted paedophilia. 

Now that the Taliban are gone, the practice is thriving again in Afghanistan.

Always a topic of uncomfortable discussion:  'Good things the Taliban did'   :x 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 08, 2012, 10:13:36 PM
how prevalent is it, exactly?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2012, 10:23:48 PM
Its been going on since the Greeks invaded the region under Alexander the Great.  The exact numbers are not well known because the Central Government refuses to investigate, but children are openly sold on the streets as sex slaves in warlord strongholds, according to UN reports.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on November 09, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
The GoP shouldn't have focused on the economy, they should have focused MORE on denying rights to gays, and forcing women to carry fetuses they don't want. 

QuoteBauer: Karl Rove, a good man and basically a conservative, he probably raised over $100 million running ads, I don't believe one of those ads were about family, about life, about marriage. Romney was pro-life and pro-family but I don't think we really engaged in the ad war on those issues and I think if we would've engaged instead of being forced to be the defensive I still think we would've gotten many, many more of what used to be the Reagan Democrats, Catholics and others who are pro-life and pro-family but may identify more with the Democrats on the economic issues but with Republicans and conservatives on values issues.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-gop-won-emphasized-marriage-abortion
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 09, 2012, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 09, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
The GoP shouldn't have focused on the economy, they should have focused MORE on denying rights to gays, and forcing women to carry fetuses they don't want. 

QuoteBauer: Karl Rove, a good man and basically a conservative, he probably raised over $100 million running ads, I don't believe one of those ads were about family, about life, about marriage. Romney was pro-life and pro-family but I don't think we really engaged in the ad war on those issues and I think if we would've engaged instead of being forced to be the defensive I still think we would've gotten many, many more of what used to be the Reagan Democrats, Catholics and others who are pro-life and pro-family but may identify more with the Democrats on the economic issues but with Republicans and conservatives on values issues.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-gop-won-emphasized-marriage-abortion

The stunning degree of sheer cluelessness is epic... "this didn't work, WE SHOULDA DONE IT HARDER".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 09, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
I heard something like that on the radio this morning. 

"Romney lost because he wasn't conservative enough."

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 09, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
KEEP FUCKING THAT CHICKEN  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 09, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 09, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
The GoP shouldn't have focused on the economy, they should have focused MORE on denying rights to gays, and forcing women to carry fetuses they don't want. 

QuoteBauer: Karl Rove, a good man and basically a conservative, he probably raised over $100 million running ads, I don't believe one of those ads were about family, about life, about marriage. Romney was pro-life and pro-family but I don't think we really engaged in the ad war on those issues and I think if we would've engaged instead of being forced to be the defensive I still think we would've gotten many, many more of what used to be the Reagan Democrats, Catholics and others who are pro-life and pro-family but may identify more with the Democrats on the economic issues but with Republicans and conservatives on values issues.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-gop-won-emphasized-marriage-abortion

Please note:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332897/against-despair-jonah-goldberg

Quote from: Jonah "Liberal Fascism" GoldbergContrary to the conventional wisdom among liberals, conservatives are actually far more willing to examine their dogma and their first principles than liberals or "centrists" are.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 09, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 09, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 09, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
The GoP shouldn't have focused on the economy, they should have focused MORE on denying rights to gays, and forcing women to carry fetuses they don't want. 

QuoteBauer: Karl Rove, a good man and basically a conservative, he probably raised over $100 million running ads, I don’t believe one of those ads were about family, about life, about marriage. Romney was pro-life and pro-family but I don’t think we really engaged in the ad war on those issues and I think if we would’ve engaged instead of being forced to be the defensive I still think we would’ve gotten many, many more of what used to be the Reagan Democrats, Catholics and others who are pro-life and pro-family but may identify more with the Democrats on the economic issues but with Republicans and conservatives on values issues.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-gop-won-emphasized-marriage-abortion

Please note:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332897/against-despair-jonah-goldberg

Quote from: Jonah "Liberal Fascism" GoldbergContrary to the conventional wisdom among liberals, conservatives are actually far more willing to examine their dogma and their first principles than liberals or “centrists” are.

Though facebook tells me that they ARE starting to notice what they should have picked up on during the Bush regime:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5900/clayv.jpg)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 09, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on November 09, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 09, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Luna on November 09, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
The GoP shouldn't have focused on the economy, they should have focused MORE on denying rights to gays, and forcing women to carry fetuses they don't want. 

QuoteBauer: Karl Rove, a good man and basically a conservative, he probably raised over $100 million running ads, I don't believe one of those ads were about family, about life, about marriage. Romney was pro-life and pro-family but I don't think we really engaged in the ad war on those issues and I think if we would've engaged instead of being forced to be the defensive I still think we would've gotten many, many more of what used to be the Reagan Democrats, Catholics and others who are pro-life and pro-family but may identify more with the Democrats on the economic issues but with Republicans and conservatives on values issues.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bauer-gop-won-emphasized-marriage-abortion

Please note:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332897/against-despair-jonah-goldberg

Quote from: Jonah "Liberal Fascism" GoldbergContrary to the conventional wisdom among liberals, conservatives are actually far more willing to examine their dogma and their first principles than liberals or "centrists" are.

Though facebook tells me that they ARE starting to notice what they should have picked up on during the Bush regime:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5900/clayv.jpg)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

WOW, THEY FINALLY NOTICED! WHAT DO YOU THINK TIPPED THEM OFF?

I personally started to have a few suspicions about 11 years ago.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on November 10, 2012, 01:28:05 AM
Eric Allen Bell claims that 4 Pakistani newspapers have published that he was behind "The Innocence of Muslims", and as a result he has had a bounty placed on his head, and has "had to go underground".

He's making a movie about it.

http://www.americaninfidelthemovie.com/

I'm expecting it to be something along the lines of Red Dawn meets Blair Witch Project.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on November 10, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
Karl Rove admits that God handed the election to Obama.


QuoteThe president was also lucky. This time, the October surprise was not a dirty trick but an act of God. Hurricane Sandy interrupted Mr. Romney's momentum and allowed Mr. Obama to look presidential and bipartisan.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
Just how like Hurricane Katrina managed to make Bush look all Presidential and bipartisan.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 10, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 10, 2012, 05:54:38 AM
Karl Rove admits that God handed the election to Obama.


QuoteThe president was also lucky. This time, the October surprise was not a dirty trick but an act of God. Hurricane Sandy interrupted Mr. Romney's momentum and allowed Mr. Obama to look presidential and bipartisan.

Well clearly, God wanted Obama to be elected.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 10, 2012, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 10, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
Just how like Hurricane Katrina managed to make Bush look all Presidential and bipartisan.

Ahahahaha, that could be a killer line to explode some GOP heads  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 12, 2012, 07:55:16 PM
Grover Norquist:

"The president was committed; elected on the basis that he was not Romney and Romney was a poopy head and you should vote against Romney and he won by two points."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
I dunno, that sounds pretty accurate.

I mean, Romney's campaign was "I am not Obama" so we're hardly talking elevated discourse here (http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/blues-greens.html).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 12, 2012, 08:26:11 PM
I concede the point.

However, it is fun to hear Grover start using the language that's most suited to the grade level of his ideas.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 12, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
I dunno, that sounds pretty accurate.

I mean, Romney's campaign was "I am not Obama" so we're hardly talking elevated discourse here (http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/blues-greens.html).

:lulz:

There is nothing new under the sun.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on November 21, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
"I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it ... it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true."










































-Barack Obama
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on November 25, 2012, 03:40:31 AM
 :lulz:  Not sure if trolling, or if trying to get people to think he isn't a MOOOOOOSLIMOOGABOOGABOOGA!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 06, 2012, 01:54:33 PM
This is "stupid" in the classic sense.

David Gergen says that $1.6 Trillion in revenue is too much, and Obama should have stayed with Simpson-Bowles. (http://davidgergen.com/davids-latest/will-president-obama-push-us-over-the-cliff-cnn/)

Simpson Bowles calls for $2.2 Trillion.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 06, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 21, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
"I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it ... it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true."
-Barack Obama

Difference is, he's not stating it as fact, just his personal belief.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
He also says it's "essentially" and "fundamentally" true.

However, he's a politician.  Speaking.  This has been scripted and looked over by PR people and marketing types and doesn't actually tell us a single thing about what Obama actually believes.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 06, 2012, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 06, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
He also says it's "essentially" and "fundamentally" true.

However, he's a politician.  Speaking.  This has been scripted and looked over by PR people and marketing types and doesn't actually tell us a single thing about what Obama actually believes.

Actually, if you look, that's the part he says he believes.

And you're right.  It says nothing.  "I agree with both sides."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 10, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
CEO of Tennessee company says he's going to start killing people if Dictator Obama moves one inch further on gun control.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/10/unhinged-tactical-response-ceo-threatens-to-start-killing-people-over-obamas-gun-control/

Quote"Vice President [Joe] Biden is asking the president to bypass Congress and use executive privilege, executive order to ban assault rifles and to impose stricter gun control," Yeager explained in his video message. "Fuck that."

"I'm telling you that if that happens, it's going to spark a civil war, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. I'm not putting up with it. You shouldn't put up with it. And I need all you patriots to start thinking about what you're going to do, load your damn mags, make sure your rifle's clean, pack a backpack with some food in it and get ready to fight."

The CEO concluded: "I'm not fucking putting up with this. I'm not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I'm not letting anybody take my guns! If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people."


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
This is a man who has lost all his happy thoughts.

He forgot how to GRIN.  He will not be able to explain this to anyone, even himself.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 10, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
But it will be interesting to see him try!

Bath salts?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 10, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
But it will be interesting to see him try!

Bath salts?

Possible, but not required.

It's just that everyone's having nervous breakdowns, freaking out about the end of all that is Right & Good, while the actual fact is that nothing is wrong, other than our collective nerve breaking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
I'm sure he'll make a smashing corpse.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
I'm sure he'll make a smashing corpse.

I'm sure he won't actually shift his fat ass to do a damn thing.

Look at his business.  He's advertising.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 10, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
A corpse does wonders for brand awareness.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2013, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 10, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
A corpse does wonders for brand awareness.

His mouth moves.  His ass doesn't.  End of story.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2013, 10:09:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
I'm sure he'll make a smashing corpse.

I'm sure he won't actually shift his fat ass to do a damn thing.

Look at his business.  He's advertising.

Well, yeah.

But the last time this kinda talk got carried away with itself....well, a President did end up getting whacked.  Only takes one looney with too much money getting caught up in his delusions.

And when that loony does strike, he'll get cut down.  Either by the Secret Service, or by his own associates.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 11, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
HAY! Guess who has a FacePage!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tactical-Response/105154162847835
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 11, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 11, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
HAY! Guess who has a FacePage!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tactical-Response/105154162847835

Har har!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 11, 2013, 11:33:21 PM
Hee Heeeee!

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/20566009/dept-of-safety-suspends-handgun-permit-of-local-man-after-gun-control-rage-video
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on January 11, 2013, 11:52:34 PM
(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8850201/images/1269943333299.jpg)


Eric Bolling: Schools 'pushing the liberal agenda' by teaching algebra (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/10/eric-bolling-schools-pushing-the-liberal-agenda-by-teaching-algebra/)
QuoteFox News host Eric Bolling on Wednesday accused some schools of "pushing the liberal agenda" for teaching an algebra lesson about the distributive property.

During a segment about "indoctrination in schools," Bolling reminded viewers of a 2009 video of children chanting, "Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Barack Hussein Obama," which outraged conservatives at the time.

"But even worse is the way some textbooks are pushing the liberal agenda," the Fox News host explained, pointing to an algebra worksheet that Scholastic says gives students "nsight into the distributive property as it applies to multiplication."

"Distribute the wealth!" Bolling exclaimed, reading the worksheet. "Distribute the wealth with the lovely rich girl with a big ole bag of money, handing some money out."

Co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle explained that the algebra worksheet had put her on "high alert" for the liberal agenda in her 6-year-old son's curriculum.
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: AFK on January 12, 2013, 02:00:31 AM
Yeah, and Calculus and integration is all a ploy to force multi-culturalism!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 12, 2013, 02:51:18 AM
You should hear those liberal university professors in the engineering department at my old school talk about tolerance.

They never shut up about it!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 12, 2013, 07:23:16 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 10, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
CEO of Tennessee company says he's going to start killing people if Dictator Obama moves one inch further on gun control.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/10/unhinged-tactical-response-ceo-threatens-to-start-killing-people-over-obamas-gun-control/

Quote"Vice President [Joe] Biden is asking the president to bypass Congress and use executive privilege, executive order to ban assault rifles and to impose stricter gun control," Yeager explained in his video message. "Fuck that."

"I'm telling you that if that happens, it's going to spark a civil war, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. I'm not putting up with it. You shouldn't put up with it. And I need all you patriots to start thinking about what you're going to do, load your damn mags, make sure your rifle's clean, pack a backpack with some food in it and get ready to fight."

The CEO concluded: "I'm not fucking putting up with this. I'm not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I'm not letting anybody take my guns! If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people."

This is the best picture ever:

(http://wtvf.images.worldnow.com/images/20566009_BG1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 12, 2013, 08:36:27 AM
It's like he's staring through the camera.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 12, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
No, it's like Twid & Waffle had a kid together.

And raised him on meth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 12, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 12, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
No, it's like Twid & Waffle & Ted Nugent & Charlie Manson had a kid together.

And raised him on meth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 12, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 12, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
No, it's like Twid & Waffle had a kid together.

And raised him on meth.

Are they brother and sister?

If so, then yes. Exactly like that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 12, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 13, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
THE US CONSTITUTION - Ladies and gentlemen, we have a true believer

(http://wtvf.images.worldnow.com/images/20566009_BG1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: deadfong on January 14, 2013, 01:29:08 PM
Apparently Glenn Beck wants to build a $2 billion self-sustaining libertarian community (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/independence-park-be-glenn-becks-galts-gulch) that will include, among other fine features,

Quotea massive "national archive"/learning center where people can send their children to be "deprogrammed" and elected officials can come to learn "the truth."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 14, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: deadfong on January 14, 2013, 01:29:08 PM
Apparently Glenn Beck wants to build a $2 billion self-sustaining libertarian community (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/independence-park-be-glenn-becks-galts-gulch) that will include, among other fine features,

Quotea massive "national archive"/learning center where people can send their children to be "deprogrammed" and elected officials can come to learn "the truth."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

If we can't convince them, we can brainwash 'em!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2013, 03:13:35 PM
I think this is an ass-pull, even by Beck's standards.

Apparently, a bunch of right-wing think tanks gave him a bunch of money to promote the conservative cause recently.  And then, Beck pretty much vanished. 

Now his plan becomes clear: he shall retreat to his cult compound, and when they send the debt collectors after him, denounce them of tools of Obama's Marxist state, kill them, and hang their bodies outside the walls.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 14, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 13, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
THE US CONSTITUTION - Ladies and gentlemen, we have a true believer

(http://wtvf.images.worldnow.com/images/20566009_BG1.jpg)

This needs to be improved and made into an emote.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Just... wow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 14, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 13, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
THE US CONSTITUTION - Ladies and gentlemen, we have a true believer

(http://wtvf.images.worldnow.com/images/20566009_BG1.jpg)

This needs to be improved and made into an emote.

Yes. It does.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 12, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
No, it's like Twid & Waffle had a kid together.

And raised him on meth.

Holy crap you're right.

Waffles, let's never have kids together and then give them meth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on January 15, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 14, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Just... wow.

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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 01:59:29 AM
Quote from: Wiley Quixote on January 15, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 14, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Just... wow.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Why am I the only person here who's okay with this sort of shit?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 01:59:29 AM
Quote from: Wiley Quixote on January 15, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 14, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Just... wow.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Why am I the only person here who's okay with this sort of shit?

I'm a million miles away from okay with this. I was sure the cameraman was going to get shot. I WANT MY PUNCHLINE GODDAMNIT :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2013, 05:36:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 01:59:29 AM
Quote from: Wiley Quixote on January 15, 2013, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 14, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 13, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/08/22/tactical-response-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

Just... wow.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Why am I the only person here who's okay with this sort of shit?

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2013, 03:37:42 PM
Oh my god, he thinks he's a fucking PINUP BOY.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 16, 2013, 04:05:51 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 16, 2013, 03:37:42 PM
Oh my god, he thinks he's a fucking PINUP BOY.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 17, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Rand Paul:

"There's no reason our White House, our Capitol, and our major cities shouldn't have a missile defense." (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/01/16/rand_paul_there_s_no_reason_d_c_and_major_cities_shouldn_t_have_a_missile.html)

What's the worst that could happen?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 17, 2013, 04:37:04 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Rand Paul:

"There's no reason our White House, our Capitol, and our major cities shouldn't have a missile defense." (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/01/16/rand_paul_there_s_no_reason_d_c_and_major_cities_shouldn_t_have_a_missile.html)

What's the worst that could happen?

:spittake:

:dream:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 17, 2013, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 17, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Rand Paul:

"There's no reason our White House, our Capitol, and our major cities shouldn't have a missile defense." (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/01/16/rand_paul_there_s_no_reason_d_c_and_major_cities_shouldn_t_have_a_missile.html)

What's the worst that could happen?

I take it he's not opposed to government spending then...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 17, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

This bears an uncanny resemblance to Buck Angel.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 17, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
Oh, that would be a great mis-attributed quote GASM.  That guy's quotes on Buck Angel's images.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 17, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Oh it totally is!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 17, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

Aaaaaaannndd..... I just figured out that isn't James Yager.

It's uncanny, really.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 17, 2013, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 17, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

Aaaaaaannndd..... I just figured out that isn't James Yager.

It's uncanny, really.

Yeah, I had to Google Buck Angel and then I was like... oh, that dude looks like Buck Angel because he IS Buck Angel.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on January 17, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 17, 2013, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 17, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

Aaaaaaannndd..... I just figured out that isn't James Yager.

It's uncanny, really.

Yeah, I had to Google Buck Angel and then I was like... oh, that dude looks like Buck Angel because he IS Buck Angel.

Someone beat yall to the misattributation?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 18, 2013, 04:11:35 AM
Quote from: Wiley Quixote on January 17, 2013, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 17, 2013, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 17, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

Aaaaaaannndd..... I just figured out that isn't James Yager.

It's uncanny, really.

Yeah, I had to Google Buck Angel and then I was like... oh, that dude looks like Buck Angel because he IS Buck Angel.

Someone beat yall to the misattributation?

THE IRONY!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 18, 2013, 08:31:06 AM
Oh shit!

I actually thought it was the other guy!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2013, 12:26:46 PM
Mind = blown.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 19, 2013, 03:29:46 AM
Achievement Unlocked!
"You are now a level 100 retard"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpD9LolO-k
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2013, 12:23:00 PM
Alex Jones.   What a winner at life.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 19, 2013, 10:08:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2w2TRxSLxw

It gets better!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 20, 2013, 01:16:23 AM
The :horrormirth: thing is that people believe that insanity.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
Yasha Levine of NSFWCorp has collected a series of quotes relating to Tim Donnelly, the California state rep for Victorville and its surrounding area.

QuoteTim Donnelly's political awakening began in the mid-2000s, at the height of the real estate boom, when he suddenly realized that the Latino population boomed all around him, seemingly for no reason. Even his ultra-conservative small town of Twin Peaks, located high up in the San Bernardino Mountains overlooking the Mojave Desert, wasn't immune from the demographic shift.

According to a 2010 LA Weekly profile, one incident in particular pushed him over the edge: In 2005, a 10-year-old Latino boy was accused of sexually harassing a white girl at a local elementary school. The kid's crime? He allegedly said to the girl: "I want to lick you where you pee. I want to hump you all day and night."

Donnelly, who also happens to be a hardcore Christian, saw this as a grave offense, and thought that school administrators should have deported the the boy along and his parents right off the bat. Donnelly had no proof that the family was indeed in the county illegally, but he became outraged when school administrators told him to lay off. Clearly, he could not trust the government to protect his children and family from the immigrant threat.

"That comment by that administrator turned me from an average citizen to an activated citizen," he said, according to LA Weekly.

Quote"I'm the only white guy in my entire extended family, and I never noticed it until people started calling me a racist because I believe in the rule of law," he said. And anyway, he didn't care what people called him. "I am proud to be a 'racist' if the definition of racist means that you can tolerate being called names in order to protect children from sexual predators."

Quote

    We are told the illegal alien is now a resident of our communities, entitled to all the protections of the law, but none of its penalties.

    We are told that 'diversity' is a goal, and although it is unclear when we will reach this utopian dream, it involves more Hispanics and fewer of everyone else.

    We are told that American culture does not exist, and even if it did, it is not worth defending because it is 'racist.'

    We are told that raping young girls, marrying extremely young girls, ogling women in an aggressive manner and using a child as a human shield are all cultural differences that we must learn to accept.

    As an American, I am not accustomed to being 'told' anything. In fact, it is 'we' who generally do the telling.

    'We the people' are finished listening.

QuoteLet's look at the schools just for a moment. In America, we have always taught the "mentally handicapped" in a separate environment. The point of that was to give the kids who struggle to learn more specialized attention and not penalize the rest of the kids by slowing down the entire class. Now in California, we have slowed the pace of education for American citizens so that children from all over the world can enjoy the "right" to public education, which some federal judge seems to think is in the constitution.

When you look at the US-Mexican relationship, it is like the guy who is married to a "high-maintenance" woman. She does all the nagging; he does all the groveling. She gets everything she wants and is never satisfied, and he doesn't even bother to ask for anything. That is all I have to say about the marriage of presidents Bush & Fox.

QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Quote"The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called 'innocent' illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them. It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50 percent illegal aliens. At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80 percent illegal alien within a decade. ... None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on its way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California."

Quote"I am going there to reach across the aisle to the enemies of freedom and annihilate them and pound them into the ground and take back our power. . . . We don't stop until Americans are back in power."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

"Brown people.  They are all the same."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 24, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

"Brown people.  They are all the same."

Quote"I'm the only white guy in my entire extended family, and I never noticed it until people started calling me a racist because I believe in the rule of law," he said. And anyway, he didn't care what people called him. "I am proud to be a 'racist' if the definition of racist means that you can tolerate being called names in order to protect children from sexual predators."

He's like that Tarot cunt.
I imagine if you questioned him, he'd say "WHY ARE YOU OK WITH CHILDREN BEING THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL PREDATORS"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 24, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

"Brown people.  They are all the same."

Quote"I'm the only white guy in my entire extended family, and I never noticed it until people started calling me a racist because I believe in the rule of law," he said. And anyway, he didn't care what people called him. "I am proud to be a 'racist' if the definition of racist means that you can tolerate being called names in order to protect children from sexual predators."

He's like that Tarot cunt.
I imagine if you questioned him, he'd say "WHY ARE YOU OK WITH CHILDREN BEING THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL PREDATORS"

Sort of reminds me of someone else.  :lulz:

I mean, different argument, same tactics.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 24, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 24, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

"Brown people.  They are all the same."

Quote"I'm the only white guy in my entire extended family, and I never noticed it until people started calling me a racist because I believe in the rule of law," he said. And anyway, he didn't care what people called him. "I am proud to be a 'racist' if the definition of racist means that you can tolerate being called names in order to protect children from sexual predators."

He's like that Tarot cunt.
I imagine if you questioned him, he'd say "WHY ARE YOU OK WITH CHILDREN BEING THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL PREDATORS"

Sort of reminds me of someone else.  :lulz:

I mean, different argument, same tactics.

:spittake:

Incisive as always, Roger.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on January 24, 2013, 07:47:49 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 16, 2013, 06:11:24 AM
(http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/James-Yeager-Angel-Approved.jpg)

didn't make it...found it.

Some gay dudes might dig his look.

[edited, damn, that's Buck Angel! heh. Jumped too soon]
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2013, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

There's a number doing the rounds on the American nativist circuit, that 3000 Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens, who since fled back to Mexico.

What that has to do with 9/11 is beyond me.  As indeed is the construction of that particular sentence.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

Jesus Fuck, this country embarrasses me.

"You can't prove rape unless the baby is carried to term."

Wow, it's a good thing that lady came along, at least until someone invents, you know, rape kits.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 24, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
A FETUS IS A PERSON UNTIL A CATHOLIC HOSPITAL GETS SUED (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341992)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on January 24, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

Well done Republicans. Clearly, no one took your assault on women and reproductive health seriously enough. Do the same only LOUDER! That will be a much better way to prove your relevance!

Is there a special Republican rape committee that we don't know about?

Rep1: Ok, meeting called to order. Our agenda today is inflammatory nonsense. Any thoughts?
Rep2: How about we say something stupid about immigrants?
Rep1: Nah. Been done, plus immigrants entirely decided the last election. I say we get more mileage out of the rape thing.
Rep2: How about this? We try and get a bill passed that makes all rape victims wear a big scarlet 'R' on their clothes so that no one will be tainted by their presence!
Rep1: I like how you think! I say we surgically seal their vaginas with crime scene tape!
Rep2: HELL YEAH! Then we pass a measure that will cut funding to the police citing rape kit testing as a waste of resources that could be used to fight actual crimes!
Rep1: FUUUUCCCKKKK YEAHHHH!!! LET'S DO THIS SHIT!! CALL A PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 24, 2013, 08:32:29 PM
 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on January 24, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

The person who intorduced it did clarify what she meant.  And the wording they quoted in the article did say "with the intent to destroy evidence."  Just saying, it's sensationalized.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 24, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 24, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
QuoteLet us think of those who died on 9/11 and of those 3,000 forgotten Americans murdered by illegal aliens who fled to Mexico to avoid justice. Let us think of them as we take on this challenge..."

Wait, what?

"Brown people.  They are all the same."

Quote"I'm the only white guy in my entire extended family, and I never noticed it until people started calling me a racist because I believe in the rule of law," he said. And anyway, he didn't care what people called him. "I am proud to be a 'racist' if the definition of racist means that you can tolerate being called names in order to protect children from sexual predators."

He's like that Tarot cunt.
I imagine if you questioned him, he'd say "WHY ARE YOU OK WITH CHILDREN BEING THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL PREDATORS"

Sort of reminds me of someone else.  :lulz:

I mean, different argument, same tactics.

"I didn't say that it was a policy that would work, I said that it was a policy that could be rolled in with policies that work!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on January 25, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on January 24, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

The person who intorduced it did clarify what she meant.  And the wording they quoted in the article did say "with the intent to destroy evidence."  Just saying, it's sensationalized.

I read the update and the idea of preventing someone from coercing a victim into an abortion is a good thing, but that's where it ends. a woman should be free to abort the "evidence" growing inside of since the actual evidence can be garnered from a rape kit and elsewhere. I suppose there is the case where a woman rapes a man and gets pregnant, but even that seems wrong since it's not like we havent been able to prove rape up until this new revelation. The wording is just wrong.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
... i think the 'legitmate rape' comment and the notion that the body can prevent things from working in a rape actually does apply to the notion of a woman raping a man, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on January 24, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

The person who intorduced it did clarify what she meant.  And the wording they quoted in the article did say "with the intent to destroy evidence."  Just saying, it's sensationalized.

No such evidence is necessary.

We can prove rape without the fetus, and why the FUCK would a woman who's been raped try to destroy evidence?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on January 24, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

The person who intorduced it did clarify what she meant.  And the wording they quoted in the article did say "with the intent to destroy evidence."  Just saying, it's sensationalized.

No such evidence is necessary.

We can prove rape without the fetus, and why the FUCK would a woman who's been raped try to destroy evidence?

because of the anticipated follow-on legislation that institutes humiliating penalties for any woman that provokes some poor guy into raping her.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 25, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
... i think the 'legitmate rape' comment and the notion that the body can prevent things from working in a rape actually does apply to the notion of a woman raping a man, wouldn't it?

Tell that to Nigel's dildoes.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 25, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
... i think the 'legitmate rape' comment and the notion that the body can prevent things from working in a rape actually does apply to the notion of a woman raping a man, wouldn't it?

Tell that to Nigel's dildoes.

That's not rape, it's evangelism.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 25, 2013, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 25, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
... i think the 'legitmate rape' comment and the notion that the body can prevent things from working in a rape actually does apply to the notion of a woman raping a man, wouldn't it?

Tell that to Nigel's dildoes.

That's not rape, it's evangelism.

:sexybeast:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
if it results in pregnancy, then it is obvious that i have *no idea* what horrors she is capable of blessing upon her victims...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on January 25, 2013, 07:32:05 PM
If you're lucky, your bones fall out.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 25, 2013, 07:32:05 PM
If you're lucky, your bones fall out.

And all your skin just sort of flies off.

But isn't that a small price to pay?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2013, 09:12:30 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on January 24, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 24, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/new-mexico-abortion-bill_n_2541894.html

AAAND The republicans are at it AGAIN!

The person who intorduced it did clarify what she meant.  And the wording they quoted in the article did say "with the intent to destroy evidence."  Just saying, it's sensationalized.

I read the bill.

If it was purely intended to, say, prevent an incestuous father from forcing his underage daughter to abort a baby conceived when he raped her, the wording would be very different. The way it's worded is very obviously designed to leave room open for pressing charges against women who obtain abortions after being raped, and I am concerned that it's designed to be a partner bill for one of those bills that allows the exclusion of coverage for women or otherwise blocks their access to abortion "except in cases of rape".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.

I don't think anyone should have to give any reason to anyone for anything, so long as it's themselves they're doing it to.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.

I don't think anyone should have to give any reason to anyone for anything, so long as it's themselves they're doing it to.

which is, of course, the impasse.  and you're not likely going to be able to convince anyone with an existent opinion that it is only themselves that they are doing it to. (and vice verse)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.

I don't think anyone should have to give any reason to anyone for anything, so long as it's themselves they're doing it to.

which is, of course, the impasse.  and you're not likely going to be able to convince anyone with an existent opinion that it is only themselves that they are doing it to. (and vice verse)

I don't have to convince them.  I just have to try to arrange things so all they can do is holler.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.

I don't think anyone should have to give any reason to anyone for anything, so long as it's themselves they're doing it to.

which is, of course, the impasse.  and you're not likely going to be able to convince anyone with an existent opinion that it is only themselves that they are doing it to. (and vice verse)

I don't have to convince them.  I just have to try to arrange things so all they can do is holler.

agreed.  but that's their goal, too. :/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Basically, a tripwire for women who get around restrictive laws blockading their access to abortion by claiming it's due to rape. This law makes it possible to go "Ha HA! If you were raped, then aborting this fetus is TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE, and look, since you're not even pressing charges this proves you're trying to protect the perpetrator!"

As far as I can tell, that's ALL this is.

I don't think a woman should have to give a reason for wanting an abortion, ever.

I don't think anyone should have to give any reason to anyone for anything, so long as it's themselves they're doing it to.

which is, of course, the impasse.  and you're not likely going to be able to convince anyone with an existent opinion that it is only themselves that they are doing it to. (and vice verse)

I don't have to convince them.  I just have to try to arrange things so all they can do is holler.

agreed.  but that's their goal, too. :/

Well, then, it just comes down to who can be the most obnoxious the longest.

I'm betting on the left.  The right is LOUDER, but the left can be a bigger pain in the ass.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 25, 2013, 09:50:36 PM
here's hoping!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 26, 2013, 03:45:47 AM
AZ: ON A ROLL.
http://legiscan.com/AZ/bill/HB2467/2013

A bill to require all public school students to swear an oath to God and country before they're allowed to get a diploma.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2013, 03:49:10 AM
Quote from: V3X on January 26, 2013, 03:45:47 AM
AZ: ON A ROLL.
http://legiscan.com/AZ/bill/HB2467/2013

A bill to require all public school students to swear an oath to God and country before they're allowed to get a diploma.

Arizona; The State That Doesn't Quit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 26, 2013, 05:18:02 AM
<3  LOL OATH
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2013, 03:53:45 PM
QuoteDear School District 304,

As a courtesy I'm letting you know I've engaged the American Center for Justice and Law (ACLJ) as well as multiple conservative and verteran groups. I'm also contacting IL state legislators.

I WILL NOT stand for my children standing in front of the flag, hand on heart, reciting a corrupted Pledge of Allegiance that leaves out "liberty" and has students stating they will obey all rules and commands of teachers. I witnessed this first hand today and am ashamed. You are teaching fascism plain and simple. My children will not grow up as blind followers who don't think for themselves.

I can think of no reason for having a separate pledge for kindergarteners and first graders then indoctrination of the young. Not going to happen on my watch. I've shed blood for this Country and will do so again if necessary.

My mother spent 12 years in a prison camp. I'm NOT ALLOWING you to introduce a Nazi way of life into the USA.

Kind Regards,

Colin M. McGroarty MBA, MCSE

What actually happened?  Wonkette explains:

QuoteIt turns out that Colin McGroarty, a parent who was volunteering at Mill Creek Elementary School in Geneva, Illinois, was very, VERY unhappy when he heard kindergartners reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in the library, because of what he perceived to be a Marxist Nazi Islamofascist rewrite of the Pledge. No, it's not that they left "under God" out. It's that he heard some words that he was damned sure didn't belong in there, and then went apeshit. Or as an email to parents from Principal George Petmezas very diplomatically put it, McGroarty resorted to language "that is not typically heard in an elementary school setting."

McGroarty calmed down eventually and went home, and then sent an angry email to the school and to a number of parents, and for good measure, posted it on Facebook. The email, which prompted the Sheriff's Department to send a deputy to Mill Creek Elementary on Thursday, complained that the word "liberty" was left out of the Pledge (Petmezas insists it was not) and that the Pledge had been corrupted by inserting a student promise to "obey all rules and commands of teachers." Which gets us to what REALLY happened. Petmezas's email explains that after students say the Pledge (in its full and unedited form, just like the Constitution, George Washington, and Jesus demand), the children follow it with a recitation of the "school creed," which is where that scary language about submitting to every whim of the Marxist Overlords comes from.

You guys are never going to believe the horrible, anti-American, Obama-worship-song lyrics contained in that school creed. The weaker among you may wish to take laudanum to calm your nerves before you read it.

In order to develop good citizens,
We believe that every person should

Treat others with respect
Follow school and classroom rules
Try their best

It's been a while since we lulled an infant Kid Zoom to sleep with it, but we are pretty sure we recognize these as lines from Mao's Little Red Book.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
 :lulz: Wow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 27, 2013, 01:46:19 AM
Here I stand...beside myself yet again. 


also :lulz: @ Mao's Little Red Book
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 27, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Berlusconi being his usual self

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21222341

QuoteItaly's gaffe-prone former premier Silvio Berlusconi has stoked controversy by praising Benito Mussolini on Holocaust Memorial Day - despite Il Duce's anti-Jewish laws.

Mussolini had been wrong to pass anti-Jewish laws but had otherwise been a good leader, said Mr Berlusconi.

He was speaking at a Milan ceremony commemorating victims of the Nazi Holocaust.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 28, 2013, 07:12:35 PM
Slightly behind

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21194991

QuoteThe Liberal Democrats have "condemned" their MP David Ward for his "use of language" in a statement about Israel's treatment of Palestinians, issued ahead of Holocaust Memorial Day.

He accused "the Jews" in Israel of "inflicting atrocities on Palestinians... on a daily basis".

Mr Ward has been summoned to a meeting with party whips next week.

The sentiment is somewhat admirable, though the language and timing is hardly chosen with care. The result to me smacks of him wanting his 15 minutes of infamy. It's a bit of a shame too, because if you're going to pull shit like this, you need to go full on "JOOOS!" or its just a bit limp wristed. Oh, wait. Lib dem. 

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 28, 2013, 07:12:35 PM
Slightly behind

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21194991

QuoteThe Liberal Democrats have "condemned" their MP David Ward for his "use of language" in a statement about Israel's treatment of Palestinians, issued ahead of Holocaust Memorial Day.

He accused "the Jews" in Israel of "inflicting atrocities on Palestinians... on a daily basis".

Mr Ward has been summoned to a meeting with party whips next week.

The sentiment is somewhat admirable, though the language and timing is hardly chosen with care. The result to me smacks of him wanting his 15 minutes of infamy. It's a bit of a shame too, because if you're going to pull shit like this, you need to go full on "JOOOS!" or its just a bit limp wristed. Oh, wait. Lib dem.

What, do they think it's Rastafarians whupping on the Palestinians or something?   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 28, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
Nah, it's more a case of:

"See here old boy, that really was a bit of a bally insensitive thing you said about the kikes there. Oven day is coming up so this week we have to make the right noises and forget the current state of things. Now, you got your face in the papers like you bet Cleggy you would, fair play for that. Here's the £50 he owes you, can't be seen round you now you now how it is so don't be at parliament for the next couple of weeks. Oh, holiday booked? Crafty bastard. Be off with you now and look abashed if anyone asks about it there's a good chap."

In the great tradition of Lib Dem MPs, you will probably hear fuck all about this guy ever again.

For those not in the UK, this is kind of relevant too:
QuoteMr Ward, who has represented Bradford East since 2010

Bradford is pretty notorious for race issues in the UK. This will probably go down quite well with a number of voters round there.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 28, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Not related: Today the bubbly characters on the talk radio station -- the "Not too conservative and not too liberal, mostly talk about movie stars and assorted bullshit" station -- referred to illegal immigrants as "Undesirables." Innocently, of course. It's like these people never paid attention in history class.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2013, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: V3X on January 28, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Not related: Today the bubbly characters on the talk radio station -- the "Not too conservative and not too liberal, mostly talk about movie stars and assorted bullshit" station -- referred to illegal immigrants as "Undesirables." Innocently, of course. It's like these people never paid attention in history class.

You're in Phoenix.  Those People are damned lucky they don't have to wear a yellow taco sewn onto their jackets.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 28, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
The great tragedy of my quest to change the world is that my one super power is sarcasm, but the apes running this place aren't smart enough to understand sarcasm. Tucson is a spiritual black hole, and apparently Phoenix is a political black hole where Poe's Law is the only physical constant.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2013, 01:27:07 AM
Quote from: V3X on January 28, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Not related: Today the bubbly characters on the talk radio station -- the "Not too conservative and not too liberal, mostly talk about movie stars and assorted bullshit" station -- referred to illegal immigrants as "Undesirables." Innocently, of course. It's like these people never paid attention in history class.

LETTER WRITING TIME!

If you do it just so, you can make your letter just a little bit over the top hyperbolic with a couple of big logical fallacies which you (or, preferably, someone else or several someone elses) COULD, through a certain contortion of your reality filter, defend to the grave.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 29, 2013, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 24, 2013, 06:13:41 PM

Quote"The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called 'innocent' illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them. It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50 percent illegal aliens. At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80 percent illegal alien within a decade. ... None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on its way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California."


I didn't know that illegal alienism was a genetic, heritable condition.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on January 29, 2013, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 24, 2013, 06:13:41 PM

Quote"The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called 'innocent' illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them. It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50 percent illegal aliens. At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80 percent illegal alien within a decade. ... None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on its way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California."


I didn't know that illegal alienism was a genetic, heritable condition.

Phoenix isn't a big fan of amendment XIV, clause 1.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on January 29, 2013, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 24, 2013, 06:13:41 PM

Quote"The facts are incontrovertible that allowing an illegal invasion of the United States will destroy the American Southwest, and very probably wipe out the freedoms we American Christians enjoy, as Muslim Extremists blend in with the so-called 'innocent' illegal aliens, and eventually proselytize them. It is not a stretch to picture a revolt in Los Angeles, whose population is comprised of over 50 percent illegal aliens. At the rate of influx and births, it will be 80 percent illegal alien within a decade. ... None of this bodes well for the citizens who live in Southern California now, nor will it improve the life of the poor alien, but it is well on its way to wiping out everything that was once good in Southern California."


I didn't know that illegal alienism was a genetic, heritable condition.

Phoenix isn't a big fan of amendment XIV, clause 1.

Well, that's an old, outdated document anyway, and we should probably just disregard the parts we don't think should apply anymore.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
It is also worth mentioning that:

1.  Several state politicians - notably Sheriff Joe - refuse on principle to acknowledge a difference between an illegal alien and an Hispanic American.  To them, brown skin equals guilt.  This isn't hyperbole on my part, it's what they've said.

2.  Former governor Meacham outlawed MLK day here, on account of "King doesn't deserve a holiday." This was followed by him telling a group of black community leaders, "You folks don't need another holiday. What you folks need are jobs."  Meacham said that out loud, in public, with his bare face hanging out.  He was then driven from office on several charges for crimes which had been ignored until that point.  In other words, even though they had to get rid of him over the comment, they couldn't bring themselves to do it publicly for racism, suddenly realizing his many crimes instead.

Oh, Arizona, how do I love thee?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 30, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
It is also worth mentioning that:

1.  Several state politicians - notably Sheriff Joe - refuse on principle to acknowledge a difference between an illegal alien and an Hispanic American.  To them, brown skin equals guilt.  This isn't hyperbole on my part, it's what they've said.

2.  Former governor Meacham outlawed MLK day here, on account of "King doesn't deserve a holiday." This was followed by him telling a group of black community leaders, "You folks don't need another holiday. What you folks need are jobs."  Meacham said that out loud, in public, with his bare face hanging out.  He was then driven from office on several charges for crimes which had been ignored until that point.  In other words, even though they had to get rid of him over the comment, they couldn't bring themselves to do it publicly for racism, suddenly realizing his many crimes instead.

Oh, Arizona, how do I love thee?

Black people need jobs that will give them MLK off is probably a more accurate statement.

Twid,
Saw a lot of black people working on his day off.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 04, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/02/1183970/-Glenn-Beck-on-female-Eskimo-Hispanic-dwarf-cross-dressers-in-combat

QuoteWar is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team. That's what war is all about. The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 04, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/02/1183970/-Glenn-Beck-on-female-Eskimo-Hispanic-dwarf-cross-dressers-in-combat

QuoteWar is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team. That's what war is all about. The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity.

Wow.  He managed to disparage 5 different groups in one sentence.  Well done, asshole.   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on February 04, 2013, 06:30:15 PM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on January 30, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
It is also worth mentioning that:

1.  Several state politicians - notably Sheriff Joe - refuse on principle to acknowledge a difference between an illegal alien and an Hispanic American.  To them, brown skin equals guilt.  This isn't hyperbole on my part, it's what they've said.

2.  Former governor Meacham outlawed MLK day here, on account of "King doesn't deserve a holiday." This was followed by him telling a group of black community leaders, "You folks don't need another holiday. What you folks need are jobs."  Meacham said that out loud, in public, with his bare face hanging out.  He was then driven from office on several charges for crimes which had been ignored until that point.  In other words, even though they had to get rid of him over the comment, they couldn't bring themselves to do it publicly for racism, suddenly realizing his many crimes instead.

Oh, Arizona, how do I love thee?

Black people need jobs that will give them MLK off is probably a more accurate statement.

Twid,
Saw a lot of black people working on his day off.

Laborers need jobs that will give them Labor Day off.
Fucking bank holidays.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 07:07:24 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on February 04, 2013, 06:30:15 PM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on January 30, 2013, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
It is also worth mentioning that:

1.  Several state politicians - notably Sheriff Joe - refuse on principle to acknowledge a difference between an illegal alien and an Hispanic American.  To them, brown skin equals guilt.  This isn't hyperbole on my part, it's what they've said.

2.  Former governor Meacham outlawed MLK day here, on account of "King doesn't deserve a holiday." This was followed by him telling a group of black community leaders, "You folks don't need another holiday. What you folks need are jobs."  Meacham said that out loud, in public, with his bare face hanging out.  He was then driven from office on several charges for crimes which had been ignored until that point.  In other words, even though they had to get rid of him over the comment, they couldn't bring themselves to do it publicly for racism, suddenly realizing his many crimes instead.

Oh, Arizona, how do I love thee?

Black people need jobs that will give them MLK off is probably a more accurate statement.

Twid,
Saw a lot of black people working on his day off.

Laborers need jobs that will give them Labor Day off.
Fucking bank holidays.

I refuse to go to "Labor Day Sales", and I try not to do business with the businesses that have them.  MISSING THE FUCKING POINT, PEOPLE.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 04, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/02/1183970/-Glenn-Beck-on-female-Eskimo-Hispanic-dwarf-cross-dressers-in-combat

QuoteWar is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team. That's what war is all about. The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity.

Actually, a cross dressing Eskimo Hispanic dwarf might be a very scary combatant. After all they get +2 to Constitution, +4 dodge bonus and their favored class is fighter*.

*assuming its a Eskimo Hispanic Hill Dwarf
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:45:18 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 04, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/02/1183970/-Glenn-Beck-on-female-Eskimo-Hispanic-dwarf-cross-dressers-in-combat

QuoteWar is the act of killing each other. And to win, you have to kill people faster than the other team. That's what war is all about. The enemy's not going to cower in defeat because we have a female Eskimo Hispanic dwarf cross-dresser and some handicapable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line, ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity.

Actually, a cross dressing Eskimo Hispanic dwarf might be a very scary combatant. After all they get +2 to Constitution, +4 dodge bonus and their favored class is fighter*.

*assuming its a Eskimo Hispanic Hill Dwarf

Now, now.  We all know women, Eskimos1, transgendered persons, etc, cannot be brave like MANLY men.



1 HELLO, 21st CENTURY CALLING! 

:cluephone:

ISN'T THAT LIKE CALLING SOMEONE A "NIGGER"?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

It's sort of like calling a Navajo "Injun".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Given America mostly fights Islamic extremists nowadays, I rather think they would cower in fear when confronted with an armed people who do not conform to expected gender stereotypes.  In fact, an explicit aspect of the US "psychological coercion" program is to humiliate prisoners by having, for example, women act in a sexually aggressive and degrading manner in their presence, and I'm sure we all know the Islamic fundamentalist view on women doing anything outside the home, unveiled and without a chaperone.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.

Thats right, I remember in Island of the Blue Dolphins (which I read as a kid) the girl in the story kept dealing with the Aleutians (I think she was Inuit) and there's also some other major tirbe that starts with a Y I think.

Also they don't live in igloos. In fact, a lot of them live in houses which are slowly sliding into the rivers due to the warming trends.

ETA: Actually she was Nicoleño Indian apparently. I just googled it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.

Thats right, I remember in Island of the Blue Dolphins (which I read as a kid) the girl in the story kept dealing with the Aleutians (I think she was Inuit) and there's also some other major tirbe that starts with a Y I think.

Also they don't live in igloos. In fact, a lot of them live in houses which are slowly sliding into the rivers due to the warming trends.

ETA: Actually she was Nicoleño Indian apparently. I just googled it.

The other big group you're probably thinking of is Yupik.

Also, Glenn Beck seems to be epically missing the point that allowing women and gays to fight isn't about making our army more terrifying. It's that it also won't make it LESS terrifying. Enemy soldiers won't know that someone is transgender... they will know that they're getting SHOT AT.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 04, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.

Thats right, I remember in Island of the Blue Dolphins (which I read as a kid) the girl in the story kept dealing with the Aleutians (I think she was Inuit) and there's also some other major tirbe that starts with a Y I think.

Also they don't live in igloos. In fact, a lot of them live in houses which are slowly sliding into the rivers due to the warming trends.

ETA: Actually she was Nicoleño Indian apparently. I just googled it.

The other big group you're probably thinking of is Yupik.

Also, Glenn Beck seems to be epically missing the point that allowing women and gays to fight isn't about making our army more terrifying. It's that it also won't make it LESS terrifying. Enemy soldiers won't know that someone is transgender... they will know that they're getting SHOT AT.

Not the point.  He's pandering...Nothing new, but he's doing it badly.

If Filthy Assistant is disgusted by his appeal to ridicule bullshit, then he's missed his target.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 04, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.

Thats right, I remember in Island of the Blue Dolphins (which I read as a kid) the girl in the story kept dealing with the Aleutians (I think she was Inuit) and there's also some other major tirbe that starts with a Y I think.

Also they don't live in igloos. In fact, a lot of them live in houses which are slowly sliding into the rivers due to the warming trends.

ETA: Actually she was Nicoleño Indian apparently. I just googled it.

The other big group you're probably thinking of is Yupik.

Also, Glenn Beck seems to be epically missing the point that allowing women and gays to fight isn't about making our army more terrifying. It's that it also won't make it LESS terrifying. Enemy soldiers won't know that someone is transgender... they will know that they're getting SHOT AT.

Not the point.  He's pandering...Nothing new, but he's doing it badly.

If Filthy Assistant is disgusted by his appeal to ridicule bullshit, then he's missed his target.

:lol: Good point.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mangrove on February 06, 2013, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 04, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 04, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 04, 2013, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 04, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on February 04, 2013, 09:47:18 PM
is it?  :?

Yeah they are Inuit.

And a bazillion other tribes.  calling a non-Inuit tribe member an Inuit also pisses them off.

I just punt and call them "people" or "Native Americans" if I have to be more specific.

Thats right, I remember in Island of the Blue Dolphins (which I read as a kid) the girl in the story kept dealing with the Aleutians (I think she was Inuit) and there's also some other major tirbe that starts with a Y I think.

Also they don't live in igloos. In fact, a lot of them live in houses which are slowly sliding into the rivers due to the warming trends.

ETA: Actually she was Nicoleño Indian apparently. I just googled it.

The other big group you're probably thinking of is Yupik.

Also, Glenn Beck seems to be epically missing the point that allowing women and gays to fight isn't about making our army more terrifying. It's that it also won't make it LESS terrifying. Enemy soldiers won't know that someone is transgender... they will know that they're getting SHOT AT.

Not the point.  He's pandering...Nothing new, but he's doing it badly.

If Filthy Assistant is disgusted by his appeal to ridicule bullshit, then he's missed his target.

:lol: Good point.

Glen Beck epically missing points. That's all he does....it's the whole reason for his existence - to acquire a 'little knowledge' of things and then get them wrong, on purpose.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
Republican writers: we're not racist, we just hate democracy (https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/342411/sam-s-smear).

QuoteNow Tanenhaus doesn't want you to think he is saying that today's conservatives are just a bunch of racists. Certainly not. He is up to something much more subtle than that. "This is not to say conservatives today share Calhoun's ideas about race. It is to say instead that the Calhoun revival, based on his complex theories of constitutional democracy, became the justification for conservative politicians to resist, ignore, or even overturn the will of the electoral majority." With that to-be-sure throat-clearing out of the way, Tanenhaus continues with an essay that makes sense only as an attempt to identify racism as the core of conservatism.

It's pretty weird how they get outraged about the racism accusation, but just sort of mention the whole "resist, ignore or even overturn the will of the electoral majority" thing in passing, then ignore it entirely.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2013, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 15, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
Republican writers: we're not racist, we just hate democracy (https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/342411/sam-s-smear).

QuoteNow Tanenhaus doesn't want you to think he is saying that today's conservatives are just a bunch of racists. Certainly not. He is up to something much more subtle than that. "This is not to say conservatives today share Calhoun's ideas about race. It is to say instead that the Calhoun revival, based on his complex theories of constitutional democracy, became the justification for conservative politicians to resist, ignore, or even overturn the will of the electoral majority." With that to-be-sure throat-clearing out of the way, Tanenhaus continues with an essay that makes sense only as an attempt to identify racism as the core of conservatism.

It's pretty weird how they get outraged about the racism accusation, but just sort of mention the whole "resist, ignore or even overturn the will of the electoral majority" thing in passing, then ignore it entirely.

Whaaaat

:lol:

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on March 15, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
Well, on the plus side, they're not really trying to hide it anymore...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
So essentially what his argument boils down to is "we're not seeking to obstruct the will of the people because we're racist, we're seeking to obstruct the will of the people because we believe that our ideology trumps democracy".

WELL THAT ISN'T WORSE, OR ANYTHING.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on March 16, 2013, 05:18:20 PM
At today's CPAC event billed as "Minority Outreach," conference attendee Scott Terry – a white male - caused an immediate reaction when he challenged K. Carl Smith, an African American representative of Fredrick Douglass Republicans and a speaker at the event, after Smith credited Douglass - a former slave and a leader in the abolitionist movement - for forgiving his former master, by uttering an incendiary comment:
"For what? For feeding him and housing him?"
The comment made Smith instantly recoil. Maybe not so shockingly, the crowd reaction was immediate but mixed, drawing what appeared to be both applause and scorn.
Later, in an interview with Think Progress, Terry, who earlier had lamented the oppression of "young white Southern males," doubled-down on his blatant contempt for blacks, railing that whites have been "systematically disenfranchised by the federal government," and commenting that " African Americans should be allowed to vote in Africa." When asked if he would prefer a society where African Americans were permanently subservient to whites, Terry was unabashed:
"I'd be fine with that."
Unfortunately, Terry had much more to add.  The conclusion? Clearly, the GOP has along way to go in their – a-hem – "outreach."



http://theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2013/03/white-cpac-attendee-african-americans-allowed-vote-africa-video/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
Whoa lordy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
QuoteFormer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin encapsulated the sentiment during her speech on Saturday before the Conservative Political Action Conference.

"Now is the time to furlough the consultants, and tune out the pollsters, send the focus groups home, and toss the political scripts," she said, "because if we truly know what we believe, we don't need professionals to tell us."

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/18/17351259-gop-report-calls-for-sweeping-reforms-to-compete-in-2016?lite
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
The last two quotes, EH's post and mine, show that the GOP is rested and ready for 2016.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 08:31:27 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2013/0318/Rove-mocks-Palin.-Who-ll-win-this-feud

TAAAAA-DAAAAAH!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 19, 2013, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
The last two quotes, EH's post and mine, show that the GOP is rested and ready for 2016.  :lulz:

Those little guys sure do bounce back, don't they?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2013, 03:34:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 19, 2013, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
The last two quotes, EH's post and mine, show that the GOP is rested and ready for 2016.  :lulz:

Those little guys sure do bounce back, don't they?

They're like fist-sized, white-hot balls of fun.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2013, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 19, 2013, 03:34:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 19, 2013, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 18, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
The last two quotes, EH's post and mine, show that the GOP is rested and ready for 2016.  :lulz:

Those little guys sure do bounce back, don't they?

They're like fist-sized, white-hot balls of fun.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

These are the people who don't believe it's rape if a man forces sex on his wife. He has a right to her, you see; she belongs to him.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 28, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
Also the implication is gays are pedophiles.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 28, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 28, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

These are the people who don't believe it's rape if a man forces sex on his wife. He has a right to her, you see; she belongs to him.

Well yeah, that's what they mean when they say the want to protect traditional marriage.  In a gay marriage you don't know who has the right to rape who, it'll make all the straights confused.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 28, 2013, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

No.
My head hurts.
Thanks anyway.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 28, 2013, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 28, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
Also the implication is gays are pedophiles.

That actually went right over my head.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 28, 2013, 11:27:27 PM
Probably because in America, gay = bad is enough for a sizeable amount of people.

Used to be like that in the UK too, no doubt.  So the rhetoric moved from gay = bad to gay = potential pedo = bad.  You don't see it as often in American based politics, but I would expect it to rise as acceptance of homosexuality does.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on March 28, 2013, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

See new line in sig.

Also, we should send him reports of DV and rape cases within marriage. Just saying.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 29, 2013, 12:06:35 AM
Quote from: Pixie on March 28, 2013, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

See new line in sig.

Also, we should send him reports of DV and rape cases within marriage. Just saying.

He'd probably just write it off as a head of household disciplining his wife and taking his due.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on March 29, 2013, 01:00:16 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 29, 2013, 12:06:35 AM
Quote from: Pixie on March 28, 2013, 11:37:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 28, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/27/1777991/anti-marriage-equality-bishop-sexual-abuse-does-not-happen-in-straight-marriages/?mobile=nc

QuoteOne speaker, Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, argued that same-sex marriage was actually an attack on low-income urban communities. Jackson claimed that "urban America" could be "healed" by promoting heterosexual marriages because, he alleges, heterosexual marriages have less poverty, less domestic violence, and "sexual abuse does not happen."
God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He's given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don't go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there's less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

You can read/watch at the link if you really need to.

See new line in sig.

Also, we should send him reports of DV and rape cases within marriage. Just saying.

He'd probably just write it off as a head of household disciplining his wife and taking his due.

gah.

I have no words left. I am going to bed now, because CRANKY, ANGRY and FUCK THAT GUY.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 03:14:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

On the other hand, even good people can absorb bad signal.  I had to beat terms like that out of my crew, and they're okay guys.  They just never thought about using the term in terms of offensiveness.  Once they did, they stopped.

Not saying this guy ISN'T a racist on some level, but it seems like his terms for decribing people are really what's at issue (so far as we know).  It's like he walked out of the 1950s.

Quote"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I'm not gonna count all the horrible things in that sentence.  I am going to say that - if true - then Gile is at worst a paternalist type of racist, and that is one of the few types that can be cured, because it isn't based on actual hatred.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

OH. MY. FUCKING. BOB.  :x :x :x

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
One of the Republicans on the Salina Council is also giving him grief for it, though that could of course be entirely for petty reasons, it nevertheless may encourage him to think more carefully about his choice of words in the future.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one.  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one.  :x

I'm not even convinced he's an actual racist.  He may simply have bad filters.  He doesn't seem to have any hate in him.  And that, as I have said, is a condition that allows a positive change.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2013, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
I hadn't really considered that aspect, my hackles went up after the "Some of My friends" shit.

While I can concede that maybe this guy isn't a total lost cause (No idea, never heard of him until today) I highly doubt he will be in situations where this thinking is seriously challenged. In the absence of anyone to beat it out of him, at best I think he may just conceal it.

I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

It is an improvement.  A small gain, but a gain nonetheless.  If you change someone's behavior, you change the way they transmit signal to others.

He states that the term was picked up when he was young.  So now he keeps it to himself, and doesn't transmit it to the next generation.

And who knows?  Maybe he will think about it.

Either way, things are slightly better.

I'm all about slapping the po'buckers around, the ones that can't or won't change, because of their motivations.  If someone CAN be changed, though, it's best to help them change, rather than drag them around by the heels.  It's all about inclusion.

Who the hell DIDN'T pick that up when they were young?
It has "n-" in it. FFS.

But yeah, better for him to be a private racist fucktard than an outspoken one.  :x

I'm not even convinced he's an actual racist.  He may simply have bad filters.  He doesn't seem to have any hate in him.  And that, as I have said, is a condition that allows a positive change.

I suspect expressions like that are OK in his little county-officials-social-clique and he doesn't really communicate with anybody else.
It might not be seething ragehate, but it's institutionalized ignorance.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?

Um, that's not where "jury rigged" comes from.  And Germans don't horse things along - or at least they're not perceived that way.  They build things right, maintain them properly, and replace them before the replacement is necessary.

Jury Rigged:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rig  It's a nautical term derived from Latin.  Has nothing to do with rigging juries.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/jim-gile-kansas_n_3045720.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

QuoteGile told the Salina Journal that he knew the term he used from when he was growing up and that he meant to say "jury-rigged." He also insisted that he is not racist, noting that a friend he considers a sister is black.

"I am not a prejudiced person," Gile told the Salina Journal. "I have built Habitat homes for colored people."

I become increasingly certain that there is a warehouse somewhere which stores black friends. I've never seen anyone use this defence and actually have said person in the room endorsing the statements.

It really should be mandatory. The burden of proof is on them "One of my Best friends is an X" should only be admissible if they can be shown to exist and are actually fucking friends.

I have a lot of friends who say nigger-rigged.  Some of them are racist in the ignorant "I don't really know any black people but one time one stole my girlfriend" way, others are not but still use the word because it is the word that they grew up with and that people around them use.  I grew up with jerry-rigged, which is different from jury rigged in that it is actually also a racist term, it just refers to Germans instead of to Black people.

As far as I know, "jerry rigged" is merely a corruption of "jury rigged", Germans not being widely associated with temporary crappy solutions to mechanical problems.

I figured it was the German engineer stereotype.  That they'd patch it together so that it could run just a few more miles.  Jury rigged doesn't make any sense to me, how is slapping duct tape on it like rigging the jury?

Um, that's not where "jury rigged" comes from.  And Germans don't horse things along - or at least they're not perceived that way.  They build things right, maintain them properly, and replace them before the replacement is necessary.

Jury Rigged:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_rig  It's a nautical term derived from Latin.  Has nothing to do with rigging juries.

Woot!  I was raised with an actually not racist term.  I feel better about the adults I grew up with.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas.  :x
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas.  :x

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas.  :x

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

Texas isn't scary.  Just full of fucking idiots.  Not everyone's an idiot there, mind you, but if you swing a dead cat around, you're not likely to hit Stephen Hawking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas.  :x

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

Texas isn't scary.  Just full of fucking idiots.  Not everyone's an idiot there, mind you, but if you swing a dead cat around, you're not likely to hit Stephen Hawking.

Idiots with guns, who are allowed to shoot you if you are on their property, or if they are "standing their ground" 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:25:44 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 10, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 10, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2013, 06:38:13 PM
Granddad was a sailor, and dad was kinda one; so even though I suck at sailing, the "jury-rigged" phrase was familiar to me as nautical.  "Nigger-rigged" ain't nothing but straight up racist, though.

Yeah.

And it just occurred to me that several terms like that are for kids' toys and candy. The indoctrination starts early.

Racist toys and candy?  I don't think I have heard about this before, I am curious.

"N- shooters" for rubber shooters, "n- chasers" for those fireworks that go every which way, "n- tits" for Hershey Kisses and "n- babies" for licorice babies.

Texas.  :x

Wow.  I hadn't heard any of those.

One more reason I am scared of Texas.

Texas isn't scary.  Just full of fucking idiots.  Not everyone's an idiot there, mind you, but if you swing a dead cat around, you're not likely to hit Stephen Hawking.

Idiots with guns, who are allowed to shoot you if you are on their property, or if they are "standing their ground"

You seem to be mistaking them for Arizona and Florida.

Texans mostly swill shit beer in horrible little bars, until they become immobile like Jabba the Hutt.  Texa is about as "wild West" as is Cicero, Illinois.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
By the by,

(http://www.thedisciplesofdesign.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/14.jpg)

Shockingly.

Edit- Of course it's fucking Australian. It says so on the bastard pack you tit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on April 10, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
i had heard about the fireworks, but not any of the others.
i would think if they were in common use throughout TX, id've heard them at least once.  then again, i've only lived in actual cities in TX.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 10, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
There is a candy that is some kind of chocolate covered creme lump that people call "n-toes" around here. I remember, way back in the day, seeing them labeled as such in stores.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 10, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
(http://nibsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/opt-twizzlers-nibs.jpg)

Twizzler's Nibs.
Note that this name:
- has not been discontinued and is still in active use.
- may seem innocent enough, but imagine what "nibs" is short for.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
(http://nibsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/opt-twizzlers-nibs.jpg)

Twizzler's Nibs.
Note that this name:
- has not been discontinued and is still in active use.
- may seem innocent enough, but imagine what "nibs" is short for.

Pen nibs?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Ah.  Ew.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on April 10, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 10, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
There is a candy that is some kind of chocolate covered creme lump that people call "n-toes" around here. I remember, way back in the day, seeing them labeled as such in stores.

my grandfather used to call brazil nuts that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 10, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on April 10, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 10, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
There is a candy that is some kind of chocolate covered creme lump that people call "n-toes" around here. I remember, way back in the day, seeing them labeled as such in stores.

my grandfather used to call brazil nuts that.

Holy crap! Mine too, now that you mention that. I had completely forgotten about that. My grandpa wasn't "Racist," though. He allowed this one black guy into his house on occasion.*




* This, in his mind, made him "progressive."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
How to win friends and influence no-one part 111897/B-
QuoteThere's never a good time or place to go on an anti-gay tirade, but onstage at a club in San Francisco owned by a gay man, in front of many gay fans, is probably near the bottom of the list.

Michelle Shocked, a singer-songwriter whose sexuality was once fairly ambiguous, stunned fans Sunday night at Yoshi's Jazz Club with a homophobic rant, according to USA Today. The 51-year-old singer reportedly said that if California's Proposition 8, which effectively bans gay marriage, is overturned, "it will be the downfall of civilization, and Jesus will come back."

(WATCH: Hillary Clinton Announces Support for Gay Marriage)

As her rant went on, fans left the show en masse. Yahoo Music reports that Yoshi's sound operator, a gay man, finally pulled the plug and asked Shocked to leave the stage, though she managed to shout "You can go on Twitter and say, 'Michelle Shocked says God hates f–s!'" to what remained of the confused audience before departing.

Several venues across the country, from Evanston, Ill. to Boulder, Colo., have canceled upcoming performances.

The fact that Shocked was widely believed to be gay makes the whole thing no less, well, shocking. After beating out the Indigo Girls and Tracy Chapman for a 1989 Grammy, Shocked joked that the award should have been for "Best Lesbian Vocalist." And in a 1990 interview with the now-defunct Chicago gay dispatch Outlines, she talked about the fluidity of her sexuality, waxing nostalgic about her first sexual experience with a woman.i

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/03/19/singer-who-everyone-thought-was-a-lesbian-spews-anti-gay-hate-at-concert/?iid=obnetwork
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2013, 01:40:56 PM
But don't they want Jesus to come back?

I'm confused by Christian eschatology as interpreted by morons.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
I think this is how you get Wrathful Jesus instead of Party Jesus.

Everyone loves Party Jesus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Luna on April 11, 2013, 01:45:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 11, 2013, 01:40:56 PM
But don't they want Jesus to come back?

I'm confused by Christian eschatology as interpreted by morons.

Hell, no, they don't.  If Jesus comes back, he might just decide to tell them what he REALLY meant.  I suspect a lot of this particular type, on some level, realize that this might, for them, be a BAD THING.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 04:04:07 PM
Yeah, this is a total urban legend originating in one of those shitty email forwards. I call bullshit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 11, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
"Nib" is totally a word on its own.

Wiki:
QuoteTo make 1 kg (2.2 pounds) of chocolate, about 300 to 600 beans are processed, depending on the desired cocoa content. In a factory, the beans are roasted. Next they are cracked and then de-shelled by a "winnower". The resulting pieces of beans are called nibs. They are usually sold in small packages at specialty stores and markets to be used in cooking, snacking and chocolate dishes.

Through pattern-matching transference, it is easy to postulate the name derived from what it looked like.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 11, 2013, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 04:04:07 PM
Yeah, this is a total urban legend originating in one of those shitty email forwards. I call bullshit.

I tried to verify but couldn't find anything reliable that refuted it. If you did, I concede the point. It just seems like it would be true, because I despise consumer culture and I always assume the worst.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 11, 2013, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 04:04:07 PM
Yeah, this is a total urban legend originating in one of those shitty email forwards. I call bullshit.

I tried to verify but couldn't find anything reliable that refuted it. If you did, I concede the point. It just seems like it would be true, because I despise consumer culture and I always assume the worst.

Keep in mind that if you are trying to verify a claim, you are looking for positive evidence that it is true, rather than the absence of evidence that it is false.

Although I 100% believe that people have called various candy "nigger babies", the fact that "nib" is a commonly used word with a well-traced etymology and has been used for cocoa nibs, coffee nibs, and other small morsels for hundreds of years while there is exactly zero evidence other than a fairly sketchy email forward about using slave infants as crocodile bait that the candy descriptor "nibs" has racist origins, I'm going to go with the preponderance of evidence (as well as the less-outlandish claim) on this one.

Also, I am deeply suspicious of things that "just seem like they would be true".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 11, 2013, 04:39:35 PM
See also "Picnic" and "Niggardly".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
I mean, come ON:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/crotchrope/Nibs.jpg)

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 11, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.

When I was a little kid, they had a store across the street from the school with loose penny candy - you walked in and asked for so many pieces of this and that, and paid. And I heard kids ask for "n- babies", with NOT A WORD from the adults working there, who matter-of-factly filled the order. Same thing at the fireworks stands with the "n- chasers".

I don't see it going from that to "nib", either, though. The rest of us called them "licorice babies".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Looking it up, I saw a few claims that Sugar Babies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Babies_%28candy%29) were sold under the brand name Nigger Babies until the 1960's, but I haven't been able to find any evidence of this at all, and I also saw claims that Chocolate Babies (which I remember from my childhood) were sold as Nigger Babies, but history doesn't seem to agree with that, either. http://www.collectingcandy.com/wordpress/?p=6384. I DO, however, remember my mom commenting about how when she was a kid they had an offensive nickname, and I am betting that's it. There were also Licorice Babies, and I would not doubt that people also referred to those as "Nigger Babies".

I can see how the combination of an actual existing offensive nickname for a candy could get conflated with the word "nibs" for people who were not particularly literate, to the point where it became urban legend.

I can also see how someone might want to exploit the potential for conflation by creating a false history and infographic for putting in an email forward in order to amuse themselves and see what they can get people to believe. I mean, I would certainly never do anything like that, but I can see how other people would.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.

When I was a little kid, they had a store across the street from the school with loose penny candy - you walked in and asked for so many pieces of this and that, and paid. And I heard kids ask for "n- babies", with NOT A WORD from the adults working there, who matter-of-factly filled the order. Same thing at the fireworks stands with the "n- chasers".

I don't see it going from that to "nib", either, though. The rest of us called them "licorice babies".

Yep, I'm betting that the people who remember these candies being "sold as" nigger babies actually remember asking for them by that name, and clerks didn't correct them. They were probably below reading age at the time and didn't know that wasn't the name on the box, and just assumed it was because that's what everybody called them.

Ah, the good old days...  :roll:

I can also ask my dad, as he was born in 1929 and used to love him some motherfucking candy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 06:01:27 PM
Origin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHO8zyTPyU

So a guy told another guy a story about alligator hunters using slave babies as bait for alligators to explain the alligator sneaking up on the black baby on the licorice drop package.

And that's totally plausible because it makes perfect sense to use a slave infant valued at $80-100, to catch an animal whose hide you can sell for $10. Instead of, say, a rabbit or a puppy, which could be had virtually for free.

I should stop being so amazed that people believe this shit, but I just always am.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 06:07:29 PM
More origins (very racist content, ahoy!) http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/7-alligator/

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 11, 2013, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.

When I was a little kid, they had a store across the street from the school with loose penny candy - you walked in and asked for so many pieces of this and that, and paid. And I heard kids ask for "n- babies", with NOT A WORD from the adults working there, who matter-of-factly filled the order. Same thing at the fireworks stands with the "n- chasers".

I don't see it going from that to "nib", either, though. The rest of us called them "licorice babies".

Yep, I'm betting that the people who remember these candies being "sold as" nigger babies actually remember asking for them by that name, and clerks didn't correct them. They were probably below reading age at the time and didn't know that wasn't the name on the box, and just assumed it was because that's what everybody called them.

Ah, the good old days...  :roll:

I can also ask my dad, as he was born in 1929 and used to love him some motherfucking candy.

Great idea, bet he'd remember tons of stuff like that. It was still around, but (luckily) dying away when I was a kid - I do remember seeing these (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CvtRqprPWLg/SMWNn-n6fxI/AAAAAAAAAtE/tvFQCFFWW2A/s200/negrohead.jpg) (kind of a fucked up nod to pressure from the NAACP (http://usslave.blogspot.com/2011/10/nigger-head-oysters.html)).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.

When I was a little kid, they had a store across the street from the school with loose penny candy - you walked in and asked for so many pieces of this and that, and paid. And I heard kids ask for "n- babies", with NOT A WORD from the adults working there, who matter-of-factly filled the order. Same thing at the fireworks stands with the "n- chasers".

I don't see it going from that to "nib", either, though. The rest of us called them "licorice babies".

Yep, I'm betting that the people who remember these candies being "sold as" nigger babies actually remember asking for them by that name, and clerks didn't correct them. They were probably below reading age at the time and didn't know that wasn't the name on the box, and just assumed it was because that's what everybody called them.

Ah, the good old days...  :roll:

I can also ask my dad, as he was born in 1929 and used to love him some motherfucking candy.

Great idea, bet he'd remember tons of stuff like that. It was still around, but (luckily) dying away when I was a kid - I do remember seeing these (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CvtRqprPWLg/SMWNn-n6fxI/AAAAAAAAAtE/tvFQCFFWW2A/s200/negrohead.jpg) (kind of a fucked up nod to pressure from the NAACP (http://usslave.blogspot.com/2011/10/nigger-head-oysters.html)).

:lulz: That's amazing!

Another reason the "nigger babies" brand candy struck me as suspect is because this kind of thing is HIGHLY HIGHLY collectible and there is a shit-ton of dialogue about it all over the Web, and the complete lack of ads/old boxes/history on the subject struck me as unusual, for something as commonplace and popular as those candies. Usually, you google something like that and you get a bunch of hits, often including eBay auctions for ads or labels. Try googling "Nigger Head Oysters", a product which was assuredly infinitely less popular, and you'll get 13,100 results, including countless photographs of cans and labels. Google "Nigger Babies Candy" and you get 3600 results, almost all of them either Urbandictionary entries from the last couple of years, or asking whether the damn things ever really existed.


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 11, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
Example:

This was a thing.

(http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/images/Coon%20Chicken%20images/menufront_250.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 11, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 06:09:08 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 11, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 10, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Nibblers?

shortened form of ealier popular name for the snack, "nigger babies."

Is this verifiably true? Because it has that odd tang of myth. Not that I doubt that people have called licorice nibs "nigger babies", but just that lots of little tidbitty things are called "nibs", with a completely different and verifiable etymology going back centuries as a word used to describe a morsel or small scrap of food, which makes me think that "nigger babies" came after "nibs" and not the other way around.

Like, some redneck looking at a package and asking his friend "Whut tha fuck is a nib anyway?" and his friend saying "I dunno, they're  little and black, it's probably short for nigger baby" and then they both laugh like it's the funniest thing ever and tell all their friends, and an urban legend is born.

When I was a little kid, they had a store across the street from the school with loose penny candy - you walked in and asked for so many pieces of this and that, and paid. And I heard kids ask for "n- babies", with NOT A WORD from the adults working there, who matter-of-factly filled the order. Same thing at the fireworks stands with the "n- chasers".

I don't see it going from that to "nib", either, though. The rest of us called them "licorice babies".

Yep, I'm betting that the people who remember these candies being "sold as" nigger babies actually remember asking for them by that name, and clerks didn't correct them. They were probably below reading age at the time and didn't know that wasn't the name on the box, and just assumed it was because that's what everybody called them.

Ah, the good old days...  :roll:

I can also ask my dad, as he was born in 1929 and used to love him some motherfucking candy.

Great idea, bet he'd remember tons of stuff like that. It was still around, but (luckily) dying away when I was a kid - I do remember seeing these (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CvtRqprPWLg/SMWNn-n6fxI/AAAAAAAAAtE/tvFQCFFWW2A/s200/negrohead.jpg) (kind of a fucked up nod to pressure from the NAACP (http://usslave.blogspot.com/2011/10/nigger-head-oysters.html)).

:lulz: That's amazing!

Another reason the "nigger babies" brand candy struck me as suspect is because this kind of thing is HIGHLY HIGHLY collectible and there is a shit-ton of dialogue about it all over the Web, and the complete lack of ads/old boxes/history on the subject struck me as unusual, for something as commonplace and popular as those candies. Usually, you google something like that and you get a bunch of hits, often including eBay auctions for ads or labels. Try googling "Nigger Head Oysters", a product which was assuredly infinitely less popular, and you'll get 13,100 results, including countless photographs of cans and labels. Google "Nigger Babies Candy" and you get 3600 results, almost all of them either Urbandictionary entries from the last couple of years, or asking whether the damn things ever really existed.

The n- toes candy I remember seeing in stores when I was a kid were packaged and labeled at the store.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 11, 2013, 11:39:19 PM
I don't think "n- babies" was ever a brand name. And I've never seen the fireworks actually labeled as "n-chasers" either, the ones we used to get were called "Texas Twister" or "Rat Chaser".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 11:52:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 11, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
Example:

This was a thing.

(http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/images/Coon%20Chicken%20images/menufront_250.jpg)

We had one on Sandy BLVD here!

(http://stumptownblogger.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b86d36970c013484112c2f970c-800wi)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 11, 2013, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 11, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

The n- toes candy I remember seeing in stores when I was a kid were packaged and labeled at the store.

I don't doubt it. That's not really relevant, though.

(ETA: to whether "nibs" is really short for "nigger babies". It's perfectly relevant in the context of "shitty racist products that actually existed".)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 12, 2013, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

Well, its a type of stereotypyzing after all, but ive seen the commercials and its just a stereotype of hip and jolly with puffy hair, at least its nothing negative... also, negro doesnt translate as nigger, negro translates as "black".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 12, 2013, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 12, 2013, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

Well, its a type of stereotypyzing after all, but ive seen the commercials and its just a stereotype of hip and jolly with puffy hair, at least its nothing negative... also, negro doesnt translate as nigger, negro translates as "black".

The slogan for those is "te dejará huella" - "it will leave its shadow/mark/fingerprint on you"?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 12, 2013, 02:59:46 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 12, 2013, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

Well, its a type of stereotypyzing after all, but ive seen the commercials and its just a stereotype of hip and jolly with puffy hair, at least its nothing negative... also, negro doesnt translate as nigger, negro translates as "black".

Yeah, I know... it's nowhere near as offensive. But it IS pretty funny.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 12, 2013, 03:07:11 AM
Have you seen the ads?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJSZstj0KE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ukeXj062xc
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 12, 2013, 03:09:36 AM
I have seen them in the past... I can't get my computer to play them now, it's too old and slow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 12, 2013, 03:11:11 AM
They're kind of awesome. People eat these things and everything goes sort of 70's P-Funk.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 12, 2013, 03:16:26 AM
Quote from: stelz on April 12, 2013, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 12, 2013, 01:33:32 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

Well, its a type of stereotypyzing after all, but ive seen the commercials and its just a stereotype of hip and jolly with puffy hair, at least its nothing negative... also, negro doesnt translate as nigger, negro translates as "black".

The slogan for those is "te dejará huella" - "it will leave its shadow/mark/fingerprint on you"?

"Footprint/mark"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 12, 2013, 03:27:22 AM
Quote from: stelz on April 12, 2013, 03:11:11 AM
They're kind of awesome. People eat these things and everything goes sort of 70's P-Funk.  :lol:

Yeah... I like them. I mean, although they're racial, they're not exactly racist.

Although I like the term "differently racist".  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 12, 2013, 04:17:55 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 03:27:22 AM
Quote from: stelz on April 12, 2013, 03:11:11 AM
They're kind of awesome. People eat these things and everything goes sort of 70's P-Funk.  :lol:

Yeah... I like them. I mean, although they're racial, they're not exactly racist.

Although I like the term "differently racist".  :lol:

Yeah.
I can't detect any hate or demeaning shit. It's people dressing up like a racial stereotype that's presented as COOLER than their regular life.
"Differently racist" is better than any term I can come up with for it.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

And they're made the bimbo company, so if you have some Negrito bimbos they're both racist and sexist.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 12, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
On the other hand, a lot of people say "nigger toes" when they're thinking of this, completely differently-racist confectionary treat:

(http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/negrito-truck-600x450.jpg)

I keep a package of vanilla Negrito in my car at all times, just in case I have a snack attack.

And they're made the bimbo company, so if you have some Negrito bimbos they're both racist and sexist.

That's why I always have some on me

I'm like, their mascot.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 19, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/92086/us-rep-nate-bell-criticized-for-boston-manhunt-tweet



Quote"I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine?"





:ahhh:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 19, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 19, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/92086/us-rep-nate-bell-criticized-for-boston-manhunt-tweet



Quote"I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine?"





:ahhh:

Classy.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 19, 2013, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 19, 2013, 09:55:32 PM
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/92086/us-rep-nate-bell-criticized-for-boston-manhunt-tweet



Quote"I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine?"




:ahhh:

I love Twitter, and the opportunity for public figures to impulsively say idiotic things to the entire world is the reason why.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 19, 2013, 10:59:18 PM
Facebook has its moments as well.

https://www.facebook.com/NateBell4Arkansas
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 23, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/11/26/175605/complaint-filed-against-kentucky.html#disqus_thread
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 23, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 23, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/11/26/175605/complaint-filed-against-kentucky.html#disqus_thread

Quote
The mother of a Laurel County high school student has filed a complaint against a teacher who wrote "You can't be a Democrat & go to heaven" on her classroom whiteboard.

...

School officials later told her Baker had apologized to Chelsea, but said she had felt Chelsea would be able to take a joke, Gilbert said.

In a place like that, who's going to heaven and who's not is never a joke, if you're in the minority.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on May 02, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Local county commissioner recently posted this to his facebook.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/MuslimWinkBossBarry_zps25ac3753.jpg)

Boss Hogg would have never stooped this low.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 02, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Local county commissioner recently posted this to his facebook.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/MuslimWinkBossBarry_zps25ac3753.jpg)

Boss Hogg would have never stooped this low.

Wow. Really?

That's fucked up. How do people even get to the point of having the basic adult capacity of running for office, and yet lack the basic decency, education, and common sense to recognize that an image that makes a joke of threatening people with death for practicing a particular religion is not appropriate for a person in public office to post?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2013, 06:15:09 PM
Awww poor baby doesn't understand why he's being singled out for persecution:

QuoteWest responded with this email: "No I did not Twitter this ... no I did not create this picture ... yes I shared it ... so why am I being singled out?"

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130501/NEWS02/305010108/Middle-TN-commissioner-s-Facebook-post-frightens-Muslims
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 02, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 02, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 02, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Local county commissioner recently posted this to his facebook.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/MuslimWinkBossBarry_zps25ac3753.jpg)

Boss Hogg would have never stooped this low.

Wow. Really?

That's fucked up. How do people even get to the point of having the basic adult capacity of running for office, and yet lack the basic decency, education, and common sense to recognize that an image that makes a joke of threatening people with death for practicing a particular religion is not appropriate for a person in public office to post?

Kids get charged with terroristic threat all the time for saying they'll punch somebody out who's tormenting them.

Two tiered, etc. etc.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 02, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 02, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 02, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 02, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Local county commissioner recently posted this to his facebook.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/MuslimWinkBossBarry_zps25ac3753.jpg)

Boss Hogg would have never stooped this low.

Wow. Really?

That's fucked up. How do people even get to the point of having the basic adult capacity of running for office, and yet lack the basic decency, education, and common sense to recognize that an image that makes a joke of threatening people with death for practicing a particular religion is not appropriate for a person in public office to post?

Kids get charged with terroristic threat all the time for saying they'll punch somebody out who's tormenting them.

Two tiered, etc. etc.

No shit. And the dude probably won't even lose his position.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on May 02, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
I wouldn't count on it.

Tried to find a picture of him (that's not him in the pic he posted to facebook). His picture is missing from the Coffee County commissioners web page, but another site showed this as his picture.

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/BossBarryWest_zpsd5d2e58d.jpg)

Which brings me back to my previous comment about Boss Hogg.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on May 02, 2013, 08:41:30 PM
Just heard a right-wing politician say that carrying other flags than the Norwegian in our Constitution Day parades on May 17th would be like "if our royal family had been from another country."

Well, um,  yeah... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon_VII_of_Norway)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 05, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
 :lulz:

So, Niall Ferguson has been saying, essentially, that Keynes was in favour of deficit spending because he was a homo:

QuoteSpeaking in front of about 500 financial advisers at a conference in Carlsbad, California, Financial Adviser's Tom Kostigen reported Ferguson said Keynes was "effete" and liked reading "poetry" to his ballerina wife. He also didn't care about future members of society because he didn't have any children. And these facts, therefore, discredited his economic theories.

What is most amusing, however, is this part:

Quote"Ferguson responded to a question about Keynes' famous philosophy of self-interest versus the economic philosophy of Edmund Burke, who believed there was a social contract among the living, as well as the dead."

That would be the Edmund Burke who only had one more child than Keynes, then?  And who said this?

QuoteThis desire of accumulation is a principle without which the means of their service to the State could not exist. The love of lucre, though sometimes carried to a ridiculous, sometimes to a vicious excess, is the grand cause of prosperity to all States. In this natural, this reasonable, this powerful, this prolific principle, it is for the satirist to expose the ridiculous; it is for the moralist to censure the vicious; it is for the sympathetick heart to reprobate the hard and cruel; it is for the Judge to animadvert on the fraud, the extortion, and the oppression: but it is for the Statesman to employ it as he finds it; with all it's concomitant excellencies, with all it's imperfections on it's head.

Remember, this is a Harvard professor whose specialist subject is...economic history.   :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 06, 2013, 04:41:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 05, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
:lulz:

So, Niall Ferguson has been saying, essentially, that Keynes was in favour of deficit spending because he was a homo:

QuoteSpeaking in front of about 500 financial advisers at a conference in Carlsbad, California, Financial Adviser's Tom Kostigen reported Ferguson said Keynes was "effete" and liked reading "poetry" to his ballerina wife. He also didn't care about future members of society because he didn't have any children. And these facts, therefore, discredited his economic theories.

What is most amusing, however, is this part:

Quote"Ferguson responded to a question about Keynes' famous philosophy of self-interest versus the economic philosophy of Edmund Burke, who believed there was a social contract among the living, as well as the dead."

That would be the Edmund Burke who only had one more child than Keynes, then?  And who said this?

QuoteThis desire of accumulation is a principle without which the means of their service to the State could not exist. The love of lucre, though sometimes carried to a ridiculous, sometimes to a vicious excess, is the grand cause of prosperity to all States. In this natural, this reasonable, this powerful, this prolific principle, it is for the satirist to expose the ridiculous; it is for the moralist to censure the vicious; it is for the sympathetick heart to reprobate the hard and cruel; it is for the Judge to animadvert on the fraud, the extortion, and the oppression: but it is for the Statesman to employ it as he finds it; with all it's concomitant excellencies, with all it's imperfections on it's head.

Remember, this is a Harvard professor whose specialist subject is...economic history.   :lol:

Tha fuck?  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2013, 05:34:17 AM
So some wingnut (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/05/20/transcript-obamas-commencement-speech-at-morehouse-college/) just made a speech not very long ago which said:

QuoteNobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination....If you stay hungry, if you keep hustling, if you keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same — nobody can stop you.

When you're making a speech to the right of Lyndon B Johnson (http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650604.asp), then you can fairly be called a wingnut.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 21, 2013, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 21, 2013, 05:34:17 AM
So some wingnut (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/05/20/transcript-obamas-commencement-speech-at-morehouse-college/) just made a speech not very long ago which said:

QuoteNobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination....If you stay hungry, if you keep hustling, if you keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same — nobody can stop you.

When you're making a speech to the right of Lyndon B Johnson (http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650604.asp), then you can fairly be called a wingnut.

I was wondering exactly where the line was between war-mongering conservative asshole crook Texan and wingnut. Thanks.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 21, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 21, 2013, 05:44:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 21, 2013, 05:34:17 AM
So some wingnut (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/05/20/transcript-obamas-commencement-speech-at-morehouse-college/) just made a speech not very long ago which said:

QuoteNobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination....If you stay hungry, if you keep hustling, if you keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same — nobody can stop you.

When you're making a speech to the right of Lyndon B Johnson (http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/650604.asp), then you can fairly be called a wingnut.

I was wondering exactly where the line was between war-mongering conservative asshole crook Texan and wingnut. Thanks.  :lol:

But Obama's a communist, right?

...AAARGH! :argh!:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2013, 09:25:32 PM
Kenyan Islamocommunist Nazi.  Please.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 24, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M FACEBOOKING THAT!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 24, 2013, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M FACEBOOKING THAT!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
...Truly a pampered politician. :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 24, 2013, 03:57:59 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M FACEBOOKING THAT!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

MEEEE TOOO!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2013, 04:08:04 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 24, 2013, 03:57:59 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M FACEBOOKING THAT!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

MEEEE TOOO!

I thought everyone knew about that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 24, 2013, 04:28:02 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2013, 04:08:04 AM

I thought everyone knew about that.

Same here, Jon Stewart talked about it when it happened, and I still had a tv then...
*shrugs*
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2013, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 24, 2013, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 23, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 23, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/senate_accepts_bipartisan_deal_to_kick_formerly_incarcerated_off_food_benefits.html

...Because starving their kids is a great way to prevent crime.

This is the sort of shit that gives diaper fetishists a bad name...http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish (http://www.nowpublic.com/us_senator_has_diaper_fetish)

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M FACEBOOKING THAT!  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
...Truly a pampered politician. :lol:

:nopunsplease:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 24, 2013, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 24, 2013, 04:28:02 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2013, 04:08:04 AM

I thought everyone knew about that.

Same here, Jon Stewart talked about it when it happened, and I still had a tv then...
*shrugs*

I'd completely missed it.
So many bent republican Bible thumpers. Can't keep up.  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 25, 2013, 02:31:39 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 03:15:24 PM
So many bent republican Bible thumpers. Can't keep up.  :lol:
When I took human sexuality, our prof indicated that the BDSM and swinger's communities were majority Republican voters...from what I've seen, probably true.

http://www.alternet.org/4-things-kinky-sex-and-christianity-have-common
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2013, 07:02:37 AM
http://deadstate.org/mississippi-may-begin-prosecuting-women-for-miscarriages/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2013, 07:02:37 AM
http://deadstate.org/mississippi-may-begin-prosecuting-women-for-miscarriages/

Well she was using meth so she deserved it.  :eek: That's what happens when you use drugs, take asprin, drink coffee, drive, get out of bed, don't offer fellatio to your husband so he bones you, or sneeze too hard while pregnant.

YOU'RE A FUCKING MURDERER.

Sorry. I think it's officially bed time, being 3 am and all.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 25, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 25, 2013, 02:31:39 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 03:15:24 PM
So many bent republican Bible thumpers. Can't keep up.  :lol:
When I took human sexuality, our prof indicated that the BDSM and swinger's communities were majority Republican voters...from what I've seen, probably true.

http://www.alternet.org/4-things-kinky-sex-and-christianity-have-common

It's possible that they do experience guilt for treating people like crap, but it manifests as "beat me!" and "poop in my mouth".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 25, 2013, 03:12:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2013, 07:02:37 AM
http://deadstate.org/mississippi-may-begin-prosecuting-women-for-miscarriages/

"VISIT HISTORIC MISSISSIPPI WHERE THE SPIRIT OF LYNCHING LIVES ON!!!!!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2013, 05:17:54 PM
This stood out to me:

QuoteNina Buckhalter's pregnancy ended in stillbirth after two months

Medically speaking, a miscarriage is only recorded as a stillbirth if the fetus is at an age where it is viable to survive outside of the womb, usually six months or so. At two months, it's about the size of an olive. Not a stillbirth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 26, 2013, 02:04:50 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 25, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 25, 2013, 02:31:39 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 24, 2013, 03:15:24 PM
So many bent republican Bible thumpers. Can't keep up.  :lol:
When I took human sexuality, our prof indicated that the BDSM and swinger's communities were majority Republican voters...from what I've seen, probably true.

http://www.alternet.org/4-things-kinky-sex-and-christianity-have-common

It's possible that they do experience guilt for treating people like crap, but it manifests as "beat me!" and "poop in my mouth".

...Not to many into that latter... :vom: ...That ain't my kink.

Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 25, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2013, 07:02:37 AM
http://deadstate.org/mississippi-may-begin-prosecuting-women-for-miscarriages/

Well she was using meth so she deserved it.  :eek: That's what happens when you use drugs, take asprin, drink coffee, drive, get out of bed, don't offer fellatio to your husband so he bones you, or sneeze too hard while pregnant.

YOU'RE A FUCKING MURDERER.

Maybe we ought to just lock 'em up after we knock them up?
As far as I know, it's actually MORE dangerous to the fetus for the mother to suddenly cold-turkey quit whatever she's taking.  It's safer to go to term as-is, or with a very slow taper-down.

And at 8 weeks, it likely wasn't viable anyway.
http://www.babycenter.com/0_understanding-miscarriage_252.bc
QuoteMiscarriage is the loss of a pregnancy in the first 20 weeks. (In medical articles, you may see the term "spontaneous abortion" used in place of miscarriage.) About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, and more than 80 percent of these losses happen before 12 weeks.
...But Jeebus hates science.

...On the sidebar of the linked article, I noticed this gem:

http://deadstate.org/gop-congressman-women-should-be-forced-to-carry-to-term-fetuses-with-no-brain-function-video/

Quoteduring a congressional committee hearing to discuss a proposed measure to criminalize abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, GOP congressman Louie Gohmert told a woman that she should have carried her fetus to term, even though an MRI had revealed that the fetus was missing a large part of its brain

Well, I guess Senator Gohmert would empathize with that  lack of brain function...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2013, 05:17:06 AM
I can't seem to help mentally pronouncing Gohmert "Gomer".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 26, 2013, 07:11:00 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 05:17:06 AM
I can't seem to help mentally pronouncing Gohmert "Gomer".

Looks a little like Gomer, too.

(http://binaryapi.ap.org/656d0ced15404bf09529869aa152da16/512x.jpg)
(http://blurbrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Gomer-Pyle.jpg)

Well gaw-LEE sarge...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 26, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
The difference being that Gomer was a nice person, could sing, and had IQ points on this guy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on May 26, 2013, 08:58:13 PM
Also, he just married his male partner a few months ago.

Well, Jim Nabors did, anyway.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on May 27, 2013, 03:25:05 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 26, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
The difference being that Gomer was a nice person, could sing, and had IQ points on this guy.
True...
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 26, 2013, 08:58:13 PM
Also, he just married his male partner a few months ago.

Well, Jim Nabors did, anyway.
Heh!  I was just looking at his early screen shots when I was looking through the images the search pulled up, and thinking "He kinda sets off my gaydar."

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2013, 09:16:43 AM
Alex Jones inteviwed by BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22832994

I'm not sure who thought this was a good idea, or indeed what they expected to happen.

"IT IS A NAZI PLAN"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2013, 09:30:16 AM
And another:
http://kevinjayheldman.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/senator-rand-paul-believes-mental-health-is-a-hoax-legislation-pending-3/

QuoteThe name of the legislation was disingenuously called The Parental Consent Act – – it pretends to be all about protecting the children and stopping the state from taking away your parental right to raise your child as you see fit, but it's just as much, more really, about adult issues masquerading as child protection.

The gist of it is that Rand Paul believes mental health is a hoax.

Paul seems to view psychiatrists and the mental health field in the same way he views big, over-reaching government and the power of a threatening government administration – – they'll take away your freedom and liberty, they'll try to control you, they must not have any power over you, they can't be trusted, they're innately ineffective and dangerous.

QuoteBut it took only 15 minutes and minimal sleuthing to google the term "Intolerant Personality
Disorder" and discovered many cynical criticisms of this anti-gay pathology, including  the Heterosexual Awareness Month (HAM, for sort, how cute).  HAM correspondents talked on-line about getting their hate speech published in The Blaze and The Daily Calller  (no damn atheists there they croon).  They also cited the cached page of their website – The tone and rhetoric was standard 9thth grade-ironic/wiseass/jerkish-meets-vain-glorious/victimization-meets-whiny/dirty-fighting, and fake earnest plea of What about our rights/What about your intolerance of our beliefs?

They call each other Hammies, upload photos of themselves wearing Straight Pride t-shirts, mockingly organize an International Day Against Heterophobia event, and bullet-point and capitalize their Awareness Goals (just like a real 501 c would):

1) Give a respected political voice to heterosexuals

2) Protect marriage

3) Stop heterophobic discrimination

Here's there mission statement; pathetic, falsely brave, full of victim hood, distorted bigotry and playing at sincerity (a cruder man would call them full of shit):

Heterosexual Awareness is about more than just being aware that we are straight. We are one of the only groups who no longer have a respected voice in this modern world.
Speaking up for traditional heterosexual values or lifestyle we have been mocked, ridiculed and called things like bigot...for nothing more than being part of a majority and having an opinion.
You might not have felt this form of discrimination yourself but many, many heterosexuals have and from all walks of life. Everyday we get messages that thank us for having the courage to speak up. You might not have felt this form of discrimination yourself but many, many heterosexuals have and from all walks of life.
                                           ###

Here's what your United States Senator stands for Kentucky. In his bio he calls himself "a warrior against government overreach." But it's really anger, cynicism, a twisted hatred of any authority, and hostility bordering on indiscriminate rage.

It truly is hard to be a white straight male in today's society. Everyone just keeps on spilling their privilege on you and all sorts of other terrible things.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on June 10, 2013, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 10, 2013, 09:30:16 AM
And another:
http://kevinjayheldman.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/senator-rand-paul-believes-mental-health-is-a-hoax-legislation-pending-3/

QuoteRand Paul believes mental health is a hoax.

Paul seems to view psychiatrists and the mental health field in the same way he views big, over-reaching government and the power of a threatening government administration – – they’ll take away your freedom and liberty, they’ll try to control you, they must not have any power over you, they can’t be trusted, they’re innately ineffective and dangerous.


From the article:
Quote“further research is necessary to firmly establish ADHD as a brain disorder. This is not unique to ADHD, but applies as well to most psychiatric disorders, including disabling diseases such as schizophrenia.”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110105094117.htm
http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/schiz.brain.htm

The first link would have been released about the same time as this asinine legislation was being moved forward, but that the second link is dated 2001.
2001!
:mad:
It's hard enough getting treatment in this country as it is!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 12, 2013, 07:13:42 AM
Yeah, radio wingnuts have opinions about society that don't really mesh well with scientific findings.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 05, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2013/07/30/the-royal-baby-is-a-rejection-of-the-family-chaos-liberalism-feeds-upon-n1651594/page/full

I....what?

QuoteThe birth of Prince George creates a problem for liberals. They love the idea of royalty because it validates their vision of an anointed elite with a divine right to the obedience of their subjects.

What?

QuoteHowever, this wonderful couple has created a traditional nuclear family that provides a powerful counterpoint to the kind of freak show dysfunction that liberalism requires to survive.

wat
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Left on August 05, 2013, 04:01:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 05, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2013/07/30/the-royal-baby-is-a-rejection-of-the-family-chaos-liberalism-feeds-upon-n1651594/page/full

I....what?

QuoteThe birth of Prince George creates a problem for liberals. They love the idea of royalty because it validates their vision of an anointed elite with a divine right to the obedience of their subjects.

What?

QuoteHowever, this wonderful couple has created a traditional nuclear family that provides a powerful counterpoint to the kind of freak show dysfunction that liberalism requires to survive.

wat
...That's what happens when you snort cocaine off Rush Limbaugh's gray-furred manboobs...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 05, 2013, 05:32:03 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 05, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2013/07/30/the-royal-baby-is-a-rejection-of-the-family-chaos-liberalism-feeds-upon-n1651594/page/full

I....what?

QuoteThe birth of Prince George creates a problem for liberals. They love the idea of royalty because it validates their vision of an anointed elite with a divine right to the obedience of their subjects.

What?

QuoteHowever, this wonderful couple has created a traditional nuclear family that provides a powerful counterpoint to the kind of freak show dysfunction that liberalism requires to survive.

wat

I've said it before...They're talking about a breed of person that exists only in their own minds.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 07, 2013, 08:36:55 AM
UKIP keeping up the insanity:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23597233

QuoteA UKIP politician has been captured on film saying British aid should not be sent to "bongo bongo land".

MEP Godfrey Bloom was recorded telling a meeting of supporters aid was spent on things like sunglasses and Ferraris.

He also claimed British aid was spent on fighter planes in Pakistan, which he called "treason" by the UK government.

The film was obtained by the Guardian. Mr Bloom, MEP for Yorkshire and Northern Lincolnshire, told the paper: "I don't do political correctness."

In the footage, recorded last month at a meeting in Wordsley, West Midland, Mr Bloom said: "How we can possibly be giving a billion pounds a month, when we're in this sort of debt, to bongo bongo land is completely beyond me.

"To buy Ray-Ban sunglasses, apartments in Paris, Ferraris and all the rest of it that goes with most of the foreign aid.

"F18s for Pakistan. We need a new squadron of F18s. Who's got the squadrons? Pakistan, where we send the money."

QuoteBut Mr Bloom defended his comments when contacted by the newspaper.

According to the paper, he told them: "What's wrong with that? I'm not a wishy-washy Tory. I don't do political correctness. The fact that the Guardian is reporting this will probably double my vote in the north of England."

The depressing part is that in certain areas he's probably quite correct. Even more depressing is that these charming people have a strong chance of playing a fairly significant role in the next government. Lib Dem credibility is pretty much gone, and I doubt either of the main 2 will get the needed numbers. So I'd guess right now we'd be looking at another coalition government and if UKIP if a part of that, the UK will become a very strange place in short order.

Also depressing is the amount of people who will believe that foreign aid is being used to purchase property in Paris. I've met more than a few people convinced immigrants and foreigners get everything and they just get the shaft. They tend to be easy to find, just check out any EDL rally. Expect some incredible lunacy from these people over the next year too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 07, 2013, 08:46:30 AM
He's got one thing right - the government probably are "at it" However, what they're not "at" is frogmarching people into gas chambers.

Lesser of two evils?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 07, 2013, 09:04:56 AM
Given every single member of UKIP is a military genius and foreign policy expert, based on the ones I keep meeting, I don't see how he doesn't understand that this is bribe money to Pakistan to continue carrying out policies favourable to British grand strategy and various businesses who operate in the region.  The Pakistani government is one of our biggest clients when it comes to arms sales, for example.

And the more we arm Pakistan, the more we worry India - the world's biggest arms importer, with traditionally strong links to the UK defence industry.  Every time India and Pakistan get into any sort of tense situation, the UK is there, willing and ready to make a profit.

All I can think is that Mr Bloom hates capitalism.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 07, 2013, 09:12:00 AM
or indian/pakistanis  :eek:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 07, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Well, I take that for granted.  He is a member of UKIP.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 07, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
What is Obama's last name?

http://progressivepopulist.org/2013/04/12/15-of-the-dumbest-political-facebook-posts-from-right-wingers-face-palm-alert/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
Those half-breed Muslins... Satin-worshippers, the lot of them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 08, 2013, 04:41:23 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 08, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
Those half-breed Muslins... Satin-worshippers, the lot of them.

:lulz: :lulz:

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 12:39:15 AM
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/20/gop-lawmaker-blames-his-multiple-dwi-charges-on-gay-marriage/

GAY MARRIAGE MADE HIM DRIVE WHILE INTOXICATED.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 21, 2013, 12:45:04 AM
"I felt a tremendous amount of pressure in my family. You take those personal issues [and] add betrayal on the professional side, and it really gets to be overwhelming."

Meet Rep. Don Dwyer (R-MD). He pleaded guilty just a little while ago to operating a boat while drunk. The crash that resulted from that debacle resulted in injuries for seven people, including a five-year-old-girl. As if that wasn't bad enough, the boat was named "The Legislator," showing that Dwyer is, if nothing else, obnoxiously arrogant.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 21, 2013, 12:52:48 AM
OH FFS

BRB I HAVE TO GO SHOPLIFTING BECAUSE OF GAY MARRIAGE

OH SORRY OFFICER, I WAS SPEEDING BECAUSE OF GAY MARRIAGE

WHAT'S THAT? OH ACTUALLY THE ONLY REASON I ROBBED THE BANK WAS GAY MARRIAGE. I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE GAYS.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 21, 2013, 12:53:58 AM
THE GAY MARRIAGE IS FORCING ME TO DRINK

I MEAN, LIKE, IT'S HOLDING ME DOWN AND POURING ALCOHOL DOWN MY THROAT.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 01:04:23 AM
I mistreat my coworkers because of Gay marriage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 21, 2013, 01:06:10 AM
I deal weed because of Gay Marriage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 01:07:57 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 21, 2013, 01:06:10 AM
I deal weed because of Gay Marriage.

I do that...thing with the chainsaw, because of Gay marriage.

I ate that damn lizard on account of Gay marriage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 21, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
My birth control failed because of Gay Marriage

I didn't walk my dog today because of Gay Marriage

I'm procrastinating homework because of Gay Marriage

Also I'm fat because of Gay Marriage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 21, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
My birth control failed because of Gay Marriage

I didn't walk my dog today because of Gay Marriage

I'm procrastinating homework because of Gay Marriage

Also I'm fat because of Gay Marriage.

Gay marriage caused this, too:

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/19/conversion-of-roads-to-gravel-met-with-concern/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 21, 2013, 02:04:13 AM
Intoxicated with rage!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 21, 2013, 04:01:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 01:13:28 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 21, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
My birth control failed because of Gay Marriage

I didn't walk my dog today because of Gay Marriage

I'm procrastinating homework because of Gay Marriage

Also I'm fat because of Gay Marriage.

Gay marriage caused this, too:

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/19/conversion-of-roads-to-gravel-met-with-concern/

THEY GOT THE HEADLINE WRONG

Plan to Convert Roads to Gravel Begins Despite Pushback Because of Gay Marriage
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 21, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
http://hoh.rollcall.com/alexander-opponent-stumbles-right-out-of-the-gate/

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 28, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23860811

QuoteTV chef Jamie Oliver has said young British people are "wet behind the ears" and European immigrants are "tougher" workers.

The presenter, whose restaurants include the Jamie's Italian chain, said they would all have to close if there were no migrants to staff them.

"There wouldn't be any Brits to replace them
," he said in an interview with Good Housekeeping magazine.

Young British people were not good at "long hours in hot kitchens", he said.

Oliver said that when he was in his 20s, it was normal for him to work 80 to 100 hours a week in the restaurant trade.

He added: "But the EU regulation now is 48 hours, which is half a week's work for me. And they still whinge about it
!

"British kids particularly, I have never seen anything so wet behind the ears!

"I have mummies phoning up for 23-year-olds saying to me, 'My son is too tired.' On a 48-hour week! Are you having a laugh?"

EU working regs are actually 37.5 hours/week. It's actually little over a third of a weeks work for you, you hero of modern capitalism. It's because people don't want to work 80+ hour weeks, that why everything is in the shitter! It's so obvious! If only everyone pulled 100 hour weeks then poverty, AIDS and toothache will magically vanish.

Let's ignore the stacks of evidence proving that 40+ hour work weeks are highly detrimental to physical and mental health. No time for that here. Let's also ignore the fact that if many professions pushed 100+ hour weeks onto employees regularly, there would be utter carnage. Traffic accidents through over tiredness would shoot up and the fatalities from that alone would be impressive. Add in Hauliers carrying Fuel or chemicals and you've got some real spectacle. 

I suspect someone's just had to give an envelope to a journalist to get the story about his kitchens filled with illegal immigrants to go away.

ETA - The meaning of "Tougher" here seems to be "cheaper".

Further, the his work ethic claim is particularly stupid. 100 hour week = 20 hour days(2 days off) or 14 hour days (Working 7 days). Next stop, demands for workhouses to "toughen people up" Or in real words "Demoralise them to work for a pittance"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2013, 02:31:22 PM
I think we may want to get ECH's take on this, as he's one of the only people on the board who professionally works in kitchens.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 28, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
I'd be interested in ECH's take too. Just realised I'm currently operating under the (mistaken?) impression that kitchen staff work obscenely long hours  :eek:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 28, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Pat Robertson Suggests Gays With AIDS Wear Rings To Cut, Infect Others (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/pat-robertson-aids-rings_n_3824401.html)

Quote"You know what they do in San Francisco? Some in the gay community there, they want to get people. So if they got the stuff they'll have a ring, you shake hands and the ring's got a little thing where you cut your finger," he said. "Really. It's that kind of vicious stuff, which would be the equivalent of murder."

:lulz:  That poor sonofabitch


Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 28, 2013, 04:48:44 PM
Not really a wingnut and I don't have a link, but the local news anchor guy on the radio this morning said this:

QuoteIt's been 50 years since Dr. Martin Luther King gave his famous "I Have a Dream" speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Today, another gathering will be taking place at the Lincoln Memorial to commemorate that event. In a nod to the progress that America has made in Civil Rights, the final speaker today will be President Obonobo -- er.. Obama..."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Ok, not techically a "wingnut" -- technically, it's the fucking country.

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to 'stay out of Medicare.' (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56923/americans-poll-out-medicare/)

May I remind everyone that these people are eligible to vote?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 28, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Ok, not techically a "wingnut" -- technically, it's the fucking country.

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to 'stay out of Medicare.' (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56923/americans-poll-out-medicare/)

May I remind everyone that these people are eligible to vote?

Let them fucking die like the good anarchists they are.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 28, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Ok, not techically a "wingnut" -- technically, it's the fucking country.

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to 'stay out of Medicare.' (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56923/americans-poll-out-medicare/)

May I remind everyone that these people are eligible to vote?

"Democracy is like a tambourine. Not everyone can be trusted with it." -- John Oliver
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2013, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 28, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Ok, not techically a "wingnut" -- technically, it's the fucking country.

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to 'stay out of Medicare.' (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56923/americans-poll-out-medicare/)

May I remind everyone that these people are eligible to vote?

On the plus side

http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/7-31-2013%20GOP%20Release%20fix.pdf

Only 19% of people now identify as Republicans.  The same number of people also identify as atheist, agnostic or no religious affiliation, which is up on previous years.

Yet, oddly enough, roughly 30% of these "non-Republicans" consistently vote for the GOP.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 28, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2013, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 28, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 28, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
Ok, not techically a "wingnut" -- technically, it's the fucking country.

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to 'stay out of Medicare.' (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/19/56923/americans-poll-out-medicare/)

May I remind everyone that these people are eligible to vote?

On the plus side

http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/7-31-2013%20GOP%20Release%20fix.pdf

Only 19% of people now identify as Republicans.  The same number of people also identify as atheist, agnostic or no religious affiliation, which is up on previous years.

Yet, oddly enough, roughly 30% of these "non-Republicans" consistently vote for the GOP.

Because the GOP is a bunch of Marx-loving leftists in disguise.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 14, 2013, 05:59:17 AM
A THIRTY YEAR MYSTERY SOLVED (http://www.citizenschwartz.com/nation-still-reeling-after-rush-limbaugh-revealed-to-be-30-year-long-andy-kaufman-prank/)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 19, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
Round up of recent religious speakers and associated idiocy in schools. More links and stupid than you can shake a condom at.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/11/abstinence-speakers-public-schools-lookadoo
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 21, 2013, 04:51:24 PM
QuoteWhen King asks if he knows the identity of the person whose heart keeps him alive, Cheney, who is promoting a book about his transplant experience, says no, and adds, "it hadn't been a priority for me." Then he goes on:

When I came out from under the anesthetic after the transplant, I was euphoric.  I'd had–I'd been given the gift of additional lives, additional years of life.  For the family of the donor, they'd just been [through] some terrible tragedy, they'd lost a family member.  Can't tell why, obviously, when you don't know the details, but the way I think of it from a psychological standpoint is that it's my new heart, not someone else's old heart. And I always thank the donor, generically thank donors for the gift that I've been given, but I don't spend time wondering who had it, what they'd done, what kind of person.

"It's my new heart, not someone else's old heart."

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/dick_cheney_even_bigger_monster_than_you_thought/

Yeah Salon, but the comments are widely reported.

It seems my assessment of Cheney as "Heartless monster" was actually wrong. He's probably got stacks of organs just waiting to be swapped in.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 21, 2013, 05:02:56 PM
Yeah, saw that.  It's totally in character.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 21, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on November 21, 2013, 05:02:56 PM
Yeah, saw that.  It's totally in character.

He's the only real person in a world full of people who don't really matter.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 21, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
BRB updating will to include "No Dick Cheneys" organ donor clause.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 25, 2013, 06:12:59 AM
You can smoke in Denver, but don't let The Nosehunters get you! http://www.realfarmacy.com/police-in-denver-using-nose-telescopes-to-hunt-cannabis-users/

I see a striking resemblance to Wonder Warthog.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1549/4ks3.jpg)(http://imageshack.us/a/img823/2168/77y8.jpg)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 25, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Regarding the transplant thing, I ended up having  a long, long argument with the wife over that. Thoughts and explination later.

Today:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/22/washington-state-gop-chair-claims-war-on-women-responsible-for-pay-reduction/

QuoteWashington State Republican chairwoman Susan Hutchison claims that the $20,000 reduction of her salary from that of her male predecessor "play into the 'war on women' narrative [used] against Republicans."

According to a memo she sent to the state GOP executive board, when she tried to convince the state party to return her pay to the $95,000 earned by Kirby Wilbur, the conversation turned "ugly."

Quote"There is no war on women," once source told the Times.

That source is probably correct. It's not really a war as much as a peacekeeping operation. "We've brought liberty and freedom but we can't let you have them because things are all kinds of crazy. Wait a while. We'll let you know."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on November 28, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 25, 2013, 06:12:59 AM
You can smoke in Denver, but don't let The Nosehunters get you! http://www.realfarmacy.com/police-in-denver-using-nose-telescopes-to-hunt-cannabis-users/

I see a striking resemblance to Wonder Warthog.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1549/4ks3.jpg)(http://imageshack.us/a/img823/2168/77y8.jpg)

!!!

Dr. Farnsworth's invention happened early!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 06, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
Mr. Froth compares apartheid to the Affordable Care Act. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/06/rick_santorum_nelson_mandela_former_gop_presidential_hopeful_compares_nelson.html)

Quote"[Mandela] was fighting against some great injustice, and I would make the argument that we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives — and Obamacare is front and center in that," Santorum said.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
Ah, he means the Heritage Foundation's health care plan (http://americablog.com/2013/10/original-1989-document-heritage-foundation-created-obamacares-individual-mandate.html)?

The conservative Heritage Foundation who had this (http://www.salon.com/2013/12/06/fight_the_right_washing_of_nelson_mandela%E2%80%99s_legacy/) to say about Mandela:

QuoteThe Heritage Foundation was a clubhouse for apartheid backers; as late as 1990, when Mandela had been freed from prison and traveled to the U.S., Heritage suggested he was a terrorist, "not a freedom fighter."
As late as 2003, the National Review attacked Mandela for opposing the Iraq war. His "vicious anti-Americanism and support for Saddam Hussein should come as no surprise," NR wrote, "given his longstanding dedication to communism and praise for terrorists."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on December 06, 2013, 04:40:33 PM
Stay classy, Heritage.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 31, 2013, 05:12:00 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/loch-ness-monster-real-dinosaur-biology-books-taught-louisiana-school-article-1.1102340

Quote...Students who are eligible for taxpayer-funded vouchers will be allowed to attend Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake for the 2012-13 school year, according to reports.

The startling claim about Nessie's authenticity is made to bolster creationism within the textbook, the Scotsman newspaper reported Monday. The Loch Ness Monster is described as a type of dinosaur, and if dinosaurs and man co-exist, then presumably there would be holes in the scientific argument for evolution.

"Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence," the textbook reads, according to the newspaper.

"Have you heard of the 'Loch Ness Monster' in Scotland? 'Nessie' for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2014, 03:42:07 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 31, 2013, 05:12:00 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/loch-ness-monster-real-dinosaur-biology-books-taught-louisiana-school-article-1.1102340

Quote...Students who are eligible for taxpayer-funded vouchers will be allowed to attend Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake for the 2012-13 school year, according to reports.

The startling claim about Nessie's authenticity is made to bolster creationism within the textbook, the Scotsman newspaper reported Monday. The Loch Ness Monster is described as a type of dinosaur, and if dinosaurs and man co-exist, then presumably there would be holes in the scientific argument for evolution.

"Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence," the textbook reads, according to the newspaper.

"Have you heard of the 'Loch Ness Monster' in Scotland? 'Nessie' for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur."

Faced with the lack of actual scientific support, just make some up! Nobody'll be the wiser!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on March 11, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
"There's nothing about gays in [the Arizona No Gays Allowed bill]. But the gay community decided to make this their measure," Bachmann said. "I think the thing that is getting a little tiresome, the gay community, they have so bullied the American people, and they've so intimidated politicians. The politicians fear them, so that they think they get to dictate the agenda everywhere." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/michele-bachmann-gay-bullying_n_4937510.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013)


GAY MAFIA UP IN THIS BIZNIZZ, HUNTY.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2014, 04:40:02 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 04:41:02 PM
Having Bachman oppose you is sort of like gaining an ally.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
I like how her logic is that since the bill didn't say anything about gays, it wasn't about them, and the gays are making it about them by pointing out that it would be used to deny them service, and that's bullying because not letting someone bully you is exactly the same as bullying.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: Tom on March 11, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
I like how her logic is that since the bill didn't say anything about gays, it wasn't about them, and the gays are making it about them by pointing out that it would be used to deny them service, and that's bullying because not letting someone bully you is exactly the same as bullying.

The right has been trying this role reversal since 2004.  You notice how effective it's been.  To the dems and the middle, they look like hilarious hypocrites.  To the right, they look weak & whiny.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2014, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: Tom on March 11, 2014, 04:42:46 PM
I like how her logic is that since the bill didn't say anything about gays, it wasn't about them, and the gays are making it about them by pointing out that it would be used to deny them service, and that's bullying because not letting someone bully you is exactly the same as bullying.

The right has been trying this role reversal since 2004.  You notice how effective it's been.  To the dems and the middle, they look like hilarious hypocrites.  To the right, they look weak & whiny.

They can't throw themselves under a bus fast enough!  :lol:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
Corey Robin's idea is that this role-reversal, far from being a new thing, is actually at the heart of the conservative political project.

Conservatism to him is a revanchist outlook which develops as a reaction against emancipation initatives of the left.  Therefore it adopts and co-opts the language of the left while maintaining it is, in fact, the "real" victim and that liberals and leftists are hypocrites - or worse, actively seeking to seize power through propaganda war against conservative values.

So far, the Republican Party seem to trying their hardest to not only prove him right, but base their entire party progam around The Reactionary Mind
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on March 11, 2014, 06:40:25 PM
That book is pretty amazing.  Scarily accurate.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
Therefore it adopts and co-opts the language of the left while maintaining it is, in fact, the "real" victim

It IS the real victim.  Has been for 10 years now, probably another 10 to go.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
Remembering, of course, that "victim" doesn't necessarily mean "good guy".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2014, 09:42:36 AM
Yeah, Salon, but the links aren't bad at all:
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/10/right_wing_pundit_ben_shapiro_says_colberts_act_is_vile_political_blackface/

QuoteAs Thursday drew to a close, many could be forgiven for assuming that the right wing's biggest freakouts over CBS's hiring of Stephen Colbert had already occurred, and that essentially no one was going to be able to top Rush Limbaugh when it came to wild hyperbole on the matter. But then Breitbart editor Ben Shapiro posted a new article about Colbert at his media watchdog website Truth Revolt, and all that changed — forever.

Shapiro has long distinguished himself for writing unhinged, idiotic and hateful things. He tried to smear Chuck Hagel by saying the former senator had a relationship with a group called Friends of Hamas, for example. Such a group did not, does not and likely will not exist. He's urged Israel to engage in ethnic cleansing. He's argued that there's no discrimination against LGBT people in America today. The list goes on.

His latest act of beclowning, though, may be his best/worst yet. After sending off multiple tweets of pouting outrage over Colbert's hiring earlier in the day, Shapiro penned a column that argued that Colbert's shtick of pretending to be a conservative pundit while acting like a bigot and fool was the moral equivalent of performing in blackface.

This is almost worth a read for it's outright insanity:

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/stephen-colberts-vile-political-blackface
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 15, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
Sigh.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-activist-gay-supremacy-becoming-monster-carries-greater-evils-white-supremacy-ever

QuoteMary Baker, leader of Conservative Moms for America and a speaker for the Tea Party Express, is warning in a blog post for Tea Party Nation that "gay supremacy is becoming a monster that carries greater evils than white supremacy ever did."

Her post, which Tea Party Nation leader Judson Phillips emailed to members today, also makes the absurd claim that white supremacy was "quickly put down" in America and argues that the gay rights activists are motivated by "hate" and bent on their opponents' "utter annihilation."

There's more, but I'm sure you see where this is going.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2014, 01:26:33 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/15/3426856/prominent-republican-women-need-to-be-paid-less-than-men-so-they-can-find-good-husbands/

(Following emphasis not mine)
QuoteNow three days later, a prominent member of the Republican movement further undermined the party's campaign to appeal to women voters by suggesting that the current pay gap isn't wide enough. In an op-ed published by the Christian Post, Phyllis Schlafly — the founder of the Eagle Forum — maintained that increasing the pay gap will help women find suitable husbands:

Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don't have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.
While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.
Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.
Obviously, I'm not saying women won't date or marry a lower-earning men, only that they probably prefer not to. If a higher-earning man is not available, many women are more likely not to marry at all. [...]
The best way to improve economic prospects for women is to improve job prospects for the men in their lives, even if that means increasing the so-called pay gap.

This has got to be worth some kind of award or something. The GOP have been throwing women under the bus for a while but this is in uncharted realms of stupidity.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 16, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Oh, Phyllis -- You so craaaazy.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2014, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 16, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Oh, Phyllis -- You so craaaazy.

She's still out traveling around, demanding that women stay home.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 17, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
I can't think of a better place for this:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo

Quote"It's just a tattoo," he says, when the silence goes on so long that we have nearly fallen over the edge of it into a pit of black nothingness. "It's not as if I came home and said I'd got someone pregnant."

It seems to me, unhinged by shock, that this might have been the better option.

His father asks, "Does it hurt?"

"Yes," I say, cutting across this male bonding. "It does. Very much."

For three days, I can't speak to my son. I can hardly bear to look at him. I decide this is rational. The last thing we need, I think, is an explosion of white-hot words that everyone carries around for the rest of their lives, engraved on their hearts. In any case, I'm not even sure what it is I want to say. In my mind's eye I stand there, a bitter old woman with pursed lips wringing my black-gloved hands. He's done the one thing that I've said for years, please don't do this. It would really upset me if you did this. And now it's happened. So there's nothing left to say.

Fucking lunacy, so it at least fits half the requirements of the thread.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on April 17, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Holy crap.  Someone's got issues.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 17, 2014, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 17, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
I can't think of a better place for this:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo

Quote"It's just a tattoo," he says, when the silence goes on so long that we have nearly fallen over the edge of it into a pit of black nothingness. "It's not as if I came home and said I'd got someone pregnant."

It seems to me, unhinged by shock, that this might have been the better option.

His father asks, "Does it hurt?"

"Yes," I say, cutting across this male bonding. "It does. Very much."

For three days, I can't speak to my son. I can hardly bear to look at him. I decide this is rational. The last thing we need, I think, is an explosion of white-hot words that everyone carries around for the rest of their lives, engraved on their hearts. In any case, I'm not even sure what it is I want to say. In my mind's eye I stand there, a bitter old woman with pursed lips wringing my black-gloved hands. He's done the one thing that I've said for years, please don't do this. It would really upset me if you did this. And now it's happened. So there's nothing left to say.

Fucking lunacy, so it at least fits half the requirements of the thread.

I saw that the other day, and I was like, wut?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on April 18, 2014, 04:51:19 AM
Isn't the guardian another national inquirer? Regardless so much butt-hurt for a tattoo.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Sita on April 18, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
Well my husband has a rather negative opinion of tattoos (which is why I will never get one) so I can see this as being true.

A stupid reaction, but true.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 28, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing 'in the Bible about state education'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/sc-republican-wants-to-end-public-schools-nothing-in-the-bible-about-state-education/

QuoteTexas Republican Dan Patrick told the Family Research Council's Washington Watch on Thursday that public schools in his state indoctrinate children with anti-American, left-wing, and environmental propaganda.

He compared his model for education to Henry Ford's mass production of automobiles, saying the private market had a solution to every problem.

"The scriptures teach this model, this is a biblical model, we don't see anything in the Bible about state education, and it's done as an outreach of the Christian community," Moore said.

He dismissed concerns about diversity, suggesting that non-Christians could attend "private-free market schools."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2014, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 17, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
I can't think of a better place for this:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo

Quote"It's just a tattoo," he says, when the silence goes on so long that we have nearly fallen over the edge of it into a pit of black nothingness. "It's not as if I came home and said I'd got someone pregnant."

It seems to me, unhinged by shock, that this might have been the better option.

His father asks, "Does it hurt?"

"Yes," I say, cutting across this male bonding. "It does. Very much."

For three days, I can't speak to my son. I can hardly bear to look at him. I decide this is rational. The last thing we need, I think, is an explosion of white-hot words that everyone carries around for the rest of their lives, engraved on their hearts. In any case, I'm not even sure what it is I want to say. In my mind's eye I stand there, a bitter old woman with pursed lips wringing my black-gloved hands. He's done the one thing that I've said for years, please don't do this. It would really upset me if you did this. And now it's happened. So there's nothing left to say.

Fucking lunacy, so it at least fits half the requirements of the thread.

The son went off and did what he wanted to do, ignoring the fact that he exists solely to do what she wants him to do.

Kids, these days.  Geroff My Lawn, etc, etc.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2014, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 28, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing 'in the Bible about state education'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/sc-republican-wants-to-end-public-schools-nothing-in-the-bible-about-state-education/

QuoteTexas Republican Dan Patrick told the Family Research Council's Washington Watch on Thursday that public schools in his state indoctrinate children with anti-American, left-wing, and environmental propaganda.

He compared his model for education to Henry Ford's mass production of automobiles, saying the private market had a solution to every problem.

"The scriptures teach this model, this is a biblical model, we don't see anything in the Bible about state education, and it's done as an outreach of the Christian community," Moore said.

He dismissed concerns about diversity, suggesting that non-Christians could attend "private-free market schools."

LOL, South Carolina.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 28, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 28, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing 'in the Bible about state education'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/sc-republican-wants-to-end-public-schools-nothing-in-the-bible-about-state-education/

QuoteTexas Republican Dan Patrick told the Family Research Council's Washington Watch on Thursday that public schools in his state indoctrinate children with anti-American, left-wing, and environmental propaganda.

He compared his model for education to Henry Ford's mass production of automobiles, saying the private market had a solution to every problem.

"The scriptures teach this model, this is a biblical model, we don't see anything in the Bible about state education, and it's done as an outreach of the Christian community," Moore said.

He dismissed concerns about diversity, suggesting that non-Christians could attend "private-free market schools."

Uhhhhh

what part of the bible does he think advocates a free-market economy?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2014, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 28, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 28, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
SC Republican wants to end public schools: Nothing 'in the Bible about state education'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/sc-republican-wants-to-end-public-schools-nothing-in-the-bible-about-state-education/

QuoteTexas Republican Dan Patrick told the Family Research Council's Washington Watch on Thursday that public schools in his state indoctrinate children with anti-American, left-wing, and environmental propaganda.

He compared his model for education to Henry Ford's mass production of automobiles, saying the private market had a solution to every problem.

"The scriptures teach this model, this is a biblical model, we don't see anything in the Bible about state education, and it's done as an outreach of the Christian community," Moore said.

He dismissed concerns about diversity, suggesting that non-Christians could attend "private-free market schools."

Uhhhhh

what part of the bible does he think advocates a free-market economy?

He's not actually worshiping Jesus.  He's worshiping Mammon.  But don't tell him, it will ruin the funny.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 29, 2014, 07:27:41 AM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on April 28, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
Uhhhhh

what part of the bible does he think advocates a free-market economy?

I actually think a Biblical economy is exactly what some of these tards want.

I mean, think about it.  No welfare system except in the hands of charities and religious groups, with vast concentrations of wealth among a relatively small ruling class.  Jesus didn't have to deal with no "regulations" to become a licenced and approved healer.  Only some kind of Marxist atheist would suggest you have to go to medical school to become a doctor.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2014, 07:52:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 29, 2014, 07:27:41 AM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on April 28, 2014, 08:55:11 PM
Uhhhhh

what part of the bible does he think advocates a free-market economy?

I actually think a Biblical economy is exactly what some of these tards want.

I mean, think about it.  No welfare system except in the hands of charities and religious groups, with vast concentrations of wealth among a relatively small ruling class.  Jesus didn't have to deal with no "regulations" to become a licenced and approved healer.  Only some kind of Marxist atheist would suggest you have to go to medical school to become a doctor.

Err

Guys.
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/godonomics/2011/06/bible-and-money-why-god-supports-free-market-capitalism.html
This
http://www.bbcmorehead.org/index.php?id=429
shit
http://www.gotquestions.org/capitalism-Bible.html
is
http://www.garynorth.com/public/department57.cfm
everywhere.

WHAT THE FUCK
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=free+market+economy+in+the+bible&oq=bible+free+market+ec&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.5496j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
QuoteAbout 4,110,000 results (0.39 seconds)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 29, 2014, 08:05:43 AM
Oh, I'm well aware of this particular intersection in stupidity and ahistorical "thinking".  The Christian Dominionists, whom Gary North belongs to, actually advocate what they call "Biblical libertarianism" which does not mean free love and dope for all, but a fully deregulated market and adulterers getting stoned to death.

So, kinda like Saudi Arabia, only without the need to find gainful employment for the 600+ layabouts who make up the House of Saud.  And, one presumes, less sand.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 29, 2014, 08:45:02 AM
There are times when I really, really wish these people got EXACTLY what they wanted.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on April 29, 2014, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 29, 2014, 08:05:43 AM
Oh, I'm well aware of this particular intersection in stupidity and ahistorical "thinking".  The Christian Dominionists, whom Gary North belongs to, actually advocate what they call "Biblical libertarianism" which does not mean free love and dope for all, but a fully deregulated market and adulterers getting stoned to death.

So, kinda like Saudi Arabia, only without the need to find gainful employment for the 600+ layabouts who make up the House of Saud.  And, one presumes, less sand.

Really? I though that Jesus guy was pretty clear on the NO STONING thing. Maybe he's rationalized that a True Christian is technically "without sin" if they have prayed for forgiveness, or something.

Seems like these guys think of Jesus much as the Muslims do... as a minor prophet whose teachings should not get in the way of Old Testament teachings. Makes me wonder if he believes in the 50 shekel + forced marriage penalty for rape as well.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on April 29, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Here's a bit more on it:

QuoteEpitomizing the Reconstructionist idea of Biblical "warfare" is the centrality of capital punishment under Biblical Law. Doctrinal leaders (notably Rushdoony, North, and Bahnsen) call for the death penalty for a wide range of crimes in addition to such contemporary capital crimes as rape, kidnapping, and murder. Death is also the punishment for apostasy (abandonment of the faith), heresy, blasphemy, witchcraft, astrology, adultery, "sodomy or homosexuality," incest, striking a parent, incorrigible juvenile delinquency, and, in the case of women, "unchastity before marriage."

According to Gary North, women who have abortions should be publicly executed, "along with those who advised them to abort their children." Rushdoony concludes: "God's government prevails, and His alternatives are clear-cut: either men and nations obey His laws, or God invokes the death penalty against them." Reconstructionists insist that "the death penalty is the maximum, not necessarily the mandatory penalty." However, such judgments may depend less on Biblical Principles than on which faction gains power in the theocratic republic. The potential for bloodthirsty episodes on the order of the Salem witchcraft trials or the Spanish Inquisition is inadvertently revealed by Reconstructionist theologian Rev. Ray Sutton, who claims that the Reconstructed Biblical theocracies would be "happy" places, to which people would flock because "capital punishment is one of the best evangelistic tools of a society."

The Biblically approved methods of execution include burning (at the stake for example), stoning, hanging, and "the sword." Gary North, the self-described economist of Reconstructionism, prefers stoning because, among other things, stones are cheap, plentiful, and convenient. Punishments for non-capital crimes generally involve whipping, restitution in the form of indentured servitude, or slavery. Prisons would likely be only temporary holding tanks, prior to imposition of the actual sentence.

People who sympathize with Reconstructionism often flee the label because of the severe and unpopular nature of such views. Even those who feel it appropriate that they would be the governors of God's theocracy often waffle on the particulars, like capital punishment for sinners and nonbelievers. Unflinching advocates, however, insist upon consistency. Rev. Greg Bahnsen, in his book By This Standard, writes: "We. . .endorse the justice of God's penal code, if the Bible is to be the foundation of our Christian political ethic."

Via http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on April 29, 2014, 08:43:40 PM
Wow, hadn't heard of those guys before.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 01, 2014, 08:45:31 AM
See, this thing with only women getting killed for sex before marriage makes the men who fuck them guilty of murder by proxy but, yeah, radical fundies ∩ logic = the set of all sets that have no members  :roll:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 01, 2014, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: Telarus on April 29, 2014, 08:43:40 PM
Wow, hadn't heard of those guys before.  :horrormirth:

The "ReChristianity" guy in Transmetropolitan was based on Rushdoony.  North is his son in law & protege, IIRC, and twice as mental.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 01, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
But right now, I'm laughing too hard at Sarah Palin's "If I were in charge, Those People would know that waterboarding is how we baptize them".

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 01, 2014, 02:46:04 PM
That was truly astounding.  Have you seen the clip?  Her delivery is even more batshit insane than it appears on the page.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 01, 2014, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 01, 2014, 02:46:04 PM
That was truly astounding.  Have you seen the clip?  Her delivery is even more batshit insane than it appears on the page.

Yes, I have.  My initial impression was "she's on drugs", but after a little analysis, it became "she's just stupid".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 01, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Oh, Mike Huckabee

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/13/mike-huckabee-tells-koch-backed-group-more-freedom-in-north-korea-than-the-u-s/

QuoteFox News host Mike Huckabee on Saturday suggested to a group of conservatives that there was "more freedom in North Korea" than the United States had under President Barack Obama.

Speaking at the New Hampshire Freedom Summit, Huckabee opined that "threats and affronts to our freedom today are so incredibly frightening."

"Freedom of speech in this country, that for which the men grabbed their muskets off the mantel, did never mean that we're to have fewer voices, but more voices," the former Arkansas governor said at the event, which was sponsored by Koch brothers-backed Americans For Prosperity and Citizens United.

"My gosh, I'm beginning to think that there's more freedom in North Korea sometimes than there is in the United States," he continued. "When I go to the airport, I have to get in the surrender position while people put hands all over me. And I have to provide photo ID in a couple of different forms, and prove that I really am not going to terrorize the airplane."

Wonkette has suggested a fundraiser to send Mike Huckabee to North Korea, so he can experience their Freedom first-hand.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 01, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
That would be the first time I've given money to a conservative politician, but I'd do it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2014, 08:46:14 PM
Barely worth mentioning beyond some of the tweaked versions. It's mainly just a personal distaste for Coulter here.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1249669/ann-coulters-plan-to-mock-bring-back-our-girls-backfires/
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 23, 2014, 10:16:09 AM
Doubling down on crazy because why not?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/jody-hice-georgia-sodomy
Quoten his seven years in Congress, Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) distinguished himself by calling biology "lies straight from the pit of hell" and accusing President Barack Obama of establishing a secret national police force to push a Marxist dictatorship. But the man who may replace Broun in Washington could outdo him.

In a 2012 book, that candidate—pastor and talk radio host Jody Hice—alleges the gay community has a secret plot to recruit and sodomize children. In It's Now or Never: A Call to Reclaim America, Hice also asserts that supporters of abortion rights are worse than Hitler and compares gay relationships to bestiality and incest. He proposes that Muslims be stripped of their First Amendment rights.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 23, 2014, 12:12:16 PM
YOU'RE MAKING IT VERY HARD NOT TO STEREOTYPE SOUTHERNERS AS IGNORANT ASSHOLES, MR. HICE.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 23, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
There seems to be some sort of rule that the Republican candidate MUST be absolutely batshit insane. We've got one locally whose claim to fame seems to be stalking and threatening her exes.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 23, 2014, 01:56:19 PM
The thing I don't understand about female Republican politicians is  that if "conservative" and "traditional family values", how are their heads not exploding from the cognitive dissonance?

"A woman's place is in the home plus God plus subservient to her husband. Except when she's running for a position of political influence and power".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 23, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Plus, the voters. "I'll vote for her! If she's in charge she'll work hard to ensure that men stay in charge and women stay home where they belong".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on May 23, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
It's enought to make a person think they're being insencere, or something.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 23, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: All-Father Nigel on May 23, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Plus, the voters. "I'll vote for her! If she's in charge she'll work hard to ensure that men stay in charge and women stay home where they belong".

I've considered standing for election with the promise to lie, cheat and line my own pockets at the electorate's expense.

The only thing that's stopped me is I might win. Seriously, under first past the post if I picked the right place I'd have a fighting chance.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 09, 2014, 08:57:27 AM
Sigh:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/sarah-palin-bowe-bergdahl_n_5460026.html

QuoteAmid recent reports that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is having difficulty speaking English after spending five years in Taliban captivity, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin doubled down on her criticism of the newly freed prisoner of war's anti-Americanism.

"Sympathizers now tell the media Bergdahl can't be held to account anytime soon because he can't be interviewed ... claiming he's forgotten how to speak English. Really?" Palin asked in a Facebook post Wednesday. "Then # Call 1-800-RosettaStone."

"Does anyone remember abused POWs like John McCain, Tom Moe, James Stockdale, Tom Kirk, and other American troops forgetting the English language during their years and years of brutal, inhumane captivity?" the former Republican vice presidential candidate continued. "Seems these war heroes returned to their beloved country not speaking Vietnamese, but speaking KickAss against those who would destroy the red, white, and blue."

It's almost impressive that this clown has been paid for her ghastly opinions consistently for several years now. Expecting more nonsense shortly when actual POW's object to this idiocy. Then more when there's objections to the objection.

Likely as not, this kid will wish he still was a POW at some point. The family is already getting death threats and it's got bad ending written all over this.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2014, 01:48:24 PM
Why is she even still a thing?   :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 09, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
It is amazing how everyone is purposefully missing the point about Bergdahl and somehow mixing up his story with the plot of Homeland.

Bergdahl, intelligent loner.  Spending his time learning the local languages, not socialising with his fellow soldiers.  Has a father fluent in Pashto, one of the harder languages in the world to learn, despite his father living in Idaho.  Anyone thinking "military intelligence"?

Haqqani Network.  Local affiliates of the Taliban.  Not insurgents as such, clan-based organised crime group who overlap into insurgency and Islamic militantism.  Strong links with the ISI, involved in the heroin trade on both sides of the Durand Line.  ISI uses relationship with Haqqani to pressure the Pakistani Taliban into accepting peace talks, scaling down their violence.

Haqqani Network was the orginal foreign fighter group in Afghanistan.  Bin Laden and others cut their teeth in Afghanistan as part of the Haqqani Network, who recieved funding from the usual Gulf state suspects.  Allegedly recipients of US intelligence funds and training during the Soviet Occupation.

Detainees swapped for Bergdahl are on their way to Qatar.  Syrian rebels are also training in Qatar.  Detainees have links to Haqqani, but not especially strong ones - could also be considered Taliban or Al-Qaeda.  At least three of them have a pronounced hatred of Shiites and history of war crimes against Shiite Muslims.

Who says the detainees will ever arrive in Afghanistan?  Why would the Haqqani Network be willing to trade an American soldier/spy without a prisoner swap - they've lost all their leverage now.  Isn't it more likely the Haqqani's got some backroom deal via Pakistan, maybe a truce in regards to missile strikes against the network and some money, in return for Bergdahl's release?  Bergdahl's release thus allows the release of six terrorists, who are now in a country promoting terrorism in Syria.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 09, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/news-corp-starts-legal-action-australian-editor-brands-mail-online-copy-snatchers-and-parasites

QuoteNews Corp is threatening to sue Mail Online for breach of copyright in Australia.

News Corp Australia's lawyers wrote to Mail Online publisher Martin Clarke on Friday listing 10 instances were it alleges Mail Online has copied articles from News Corp titles.

QuoteEarlier this year, News UK chief executive Mike Darcey said Mail Online "shouldn't be confused with a business based on professional journalism".

He said: "It is largely a redistributor, rather than a generator, copying and re-writing content from social media sites, and from other traditional news outlets, including The Sun."

Neither, indeed, should anything related to Murdoch. The guy must have had the biggest shit eating grin in the world to come out with that one.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2014, 08:05:25 AM
Man lacks empathy and common sense #3555332/E:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/08/wall-street-journal-editor-dont-hike-minimum-wage-because-workers-learn-from-poverty/

QuoteWall Street Journal Editor Paul Gigot argued on Sunday that the minimum wage should be kept low because it would teach workers that they did not want to work low-wage jobs.

During a panel discussion on ABC's This Week, Gigot predicted that a decision in Seattle to hike the minimum wage to $15 an hour would eventually backfire.

"I think what [Mayor Ed Murray] is going to find out is he's pricing a bunch of people out of the labor market," Gigot opined. "Particularly the young, the least skilled, teenagers, people who want to go in and gen in on that basic, bottom rung of the economic latter and move up."


"Look, I worked for the minimum wage," he explained. "Two bucks an hour back in the 1970s. I had jobs that — what did I learn? I learned to show up on time, I learned certain skills, and I learned I didn't want to make the rest of my life so I better get an education."

QuoteAccording to the Dept. of Labor and the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the 1974 minimum wage of $2 an hour would be worth $9.62 in 2014 when adjusted for inflation.

The minimum wage level has not been high enough to life full-time workers above the poverty level since 1968.

Shot in the dark, I'm guessing the current minimum wage figure is not $10.

But anyway, People need to have bad paying jobs to teach them that bad paying jobs suck, apparently.

I think I could save a lot of time and effort here by letting him know that this is blindingly fucking obvious. But once again, rather than focus on improving people's lives it's better to keep them in a shit situation because reasons.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 10, 2014, 02:04:14 PM
So, what  does he think should happen to those jobs, then?

Oh wait, asking a sheltered spoiled brat to think things through is pointless. Of course he didn't think that far.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 17, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2013/07/31/oreilly-killing-history-n1653553

Barely worth reading as it's likely to cost you a couple of IQ points. Short version - Coulter attacking O'Reilly over his shaky grasp of history and current events.

Pot, kettle, etc, etc, etc.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 17, 2014, 12:35:57 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/cnn-cuts-school-shootings-since-newtown-from-74-to-15-to-appease-gun-advocates/

Quote"It's not a school shooting when someone goes and shoots a specific person on campus. It's a shooting that happens to take place at school," Charles C. Johnson protested.

The Guardian's Alan Burkeman slammed the redefinition as an exercise in semantics, and called it "a truly depressing glimpse of how pro-gun argumentation works these days."

I love that bolded logic and intend to be trying it throughout the rest of the day.

"It's not on fire, it just happens to be covered in flames".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2014, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 17, 2014, 12:35:57 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/cnn-cuts-school-shootings-since-newtown-from-74-to-15-to-appease-gun-advocates/

Quote"It's not a school shooting when someone goes and shoots a specific person on campus. It's a shooting that happens to take place at school," Charles C. Johnson protested.

The Guardian's Alan Burkeman slammed the redefinition as an exercise in semantics, and called it "a truly depressing glimpse of how pro-gun argumentation works these days."

I love that bolded logic and intend to be trying it throughout the rest of the day.

"It's not on fire, it just happens to be covered in flames".

They actually have a point that is particularly relevant when it comes to how statistics are compiled and public perception. For example, a school bus driver was shot by an acquaintance on an empty bus; school shooting? The way the statistics are compiled currently, yes. Gang-related shootings that happen at school go into that statistical pool, a teacher shot in the parking lot by a jealous ex goes into that pool, everything that can be related to a school goes into that pool.

It's extremely misleading.

A high proportion of gang-related violence takes place at churches and funerals, because the shooters know that's where they can find their victim. Is that religious violence? Probably not by any reasonable person's definition. Many acts of violence that are recorded as school shootings are not what the public thinks of as a "school shooting", are actually targeted shootings that would have just as easily occurred elsewhere, had the victim, say, worked at Wal*Mart or been a dropout.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2014, 11:56:11 PM
I haven't read the article, I just had this discussion last night with my best friend.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 18, 2014, 08:08:45 AM
Well the short version is Johnson takes your argument to the wall. He manages to eventually cut the 74 down to 7 with some incredible leaps of logic
http://www.theguardian.com/news/oliver-burkeman-s-blog/2014/jun/12/gun-lobby-tactic-redefining-school-shootings?CMP=twt_gu

(each of these followed by snapshot of twitter account)

QuoteIt doesn't count if the bullet you're injured by, on school grounds, was discharged accidentally:
QuoteIt certainly doesn't count if you're the one who shoots yourself to death at school:
QuoteIt isn't a school shooting even if it's a shooting, at school, so long as the victim, on this occasion, is an adult rather than a child:
QuoteIt most definitely doesn't count if the shooting is gang-related – a recurring theme in Johnson's tweets – though he never clarifies why:
QuoteIt doesn't count if the shooting arises from a dispute over a games console:

And so on. The two bolded, you mentioned and I'm somewhat unsure about this. I think the original point was to highlight violence, particularly gun violence in schools. While 74 may have included odd fringe cases (apparently at least one never occurred) 7 seems to deliberately exclude anything that could logically be called a "school shooting". If someone shoots in a school environment, it seems a little strange to say it doesn't count because gangs target victims there or whatever. I don't see any reason why something can't be a school shooting and a Gang/robbery/jealous lover thing. Life is messy and events tend to have multiple causes. Deliberately ignoring one cause or consequence (School was shot at but no-one injured so not a school shooting) just seems like asking for more of the same.

Out of curiosity, do you have any links to the targeted shooting stuff? If an unusual level of them are happening in educational environments I have a feeling that's worth a deeper look at. I've got prison pipeline stuff in my head here but I'm hoping it's paranoia.

ETA - Forgot the closer:
QuoteAnd let's not forget the bigger point here. A pro-gun journalist applies the most stringent imaginable criteria to the term 'school shooting'; he rejects every instance he possibly can, for reasons many might regard as spurious, and then triumphantly declares that there have only been ... seven bona fide school shootings in America since December 2012!

Only seven school shootings since December 2012.

I hope I never to get to the point at which the word "only" in that sentence makes even the slightest bit of sense.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 18, 2014, 12:13:52 PM
QuoteIt doesn't count if the shooting arises from a dispute over a games console:

That seems most telling to me of how Johnson is defining "School Shooting" -- It looks to me like he's saying it only counts if it's mass murder at a school targeting children; which in turn makes it so much easier to shift the blame towards mental health and away from gun control.  "School shootings, by definition (mine) aren't because of gun culture.  They happen because of the crazy."

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 12:13:52 PM
QuoteIt doesn't count if the shooting arises from a dispute over a games console:

That seems most telling to me of how Johnson is defining "School Shooting" -- It looks to me like he's saying it only counts if it's mass murder at a school targeting children; which in turn makes it so much easier to shift the blame towards mental health and away from gun control.  "School shootings, by definition (mine) aren't because of gun culture.  They happen because of the crazy."

It's a really important distinction, though, because there is a difference between a guy with a bone to pick with another guy, and a generally disgruntled-with-society person spraying a random crowd of kids with bullets. The first is a condition that has always been with society but is generally on the decline. The second is a condition that has always been with society but appears to be on the increase. The distinction that should be made here is not whether the shootings are connected to a school, but what the nature and motivation of the shootings are. "School shooting" is not a very meaningful category, and the media is using that category deliberately to conflate all "school shootings" with mass shootings. Mass shootings can (and do) also take place at malls and churches.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 18, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
Upon reflection, that makes sense.  "School Shooting" then, seems like a fnord.

Sorry for the pineal term, but it's a pretty good shorthand.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:47:41 PM
Basically, using "school shooting" to define the problem pulls a "won't anyone think of the children?" by begging the question "how can we make our schools safer?", while distracting from the question "how and why are these people becoming so hopeless and angry at society that they are willing to randomly injure and kill complete strangers, and how can we prevent it?"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 18, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
Upon reflection, that makes sense.  "School Shooting" then, seems like a fnord.

Sorry for the pineal term, but it's a pretty good shorthand.

Yes, it's a good shorthand, because it basically sums up what I was trying to type when you posted that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:53:37 PM
The problem I have with gun control as a solution for this kind of violence is that it's a bottom-up solution; it's like addressing the fact that poor people are stealing food by making it harder for poor people to go into grocery stores. The problem isn't that angry, disenfranchised young people are able to get guns, the problem is that young people are so angry and disenfranchised that they want to randomly kill a bunch of innocent people.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on June 18, 2014, 05:59:27 PM
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Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 18, 2014, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:47:41 PM
Basically, using "school shooting" to define the problem pulls a "won't anyone think of the children?" by begging the question "how can we make our schools safer?", while distracting from the question "how and why are these people becoming so hopeless and angry at society that they are willing to randomly injure and kill complete strangers, and how can we prevent it?"

Thanks for that, actually cuts to the problem rather than the bullshit around the problem. Appreciated!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Junkenstein, this might be helpful... I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but given that the annual rate for all gun injuries in the US is around 100,000 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite), 65-ish is a very low proportion.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says   

This is also an interesting article: http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/18/navy-yard-whiplash-are-killings-going-up-or-down/

While "school shootings" are certainly the flavor of the moment, I'm not convinced their heavy presence in the media is anything other than a political fulcrum.         
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 18, 2014, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 05:47:41 PM
Basically, using "school shooting" to define the problem pulls a "won't anyone think of the children?" by begging the question "how can we make our schools safer?", while distracting from the question "how and why are these people becoming so hopeless and angry at society that they are willing to randomly injure and kill complete strangers, and how can we prevent it?"

Thanks for that, actually cuts to the problem rather than the bullshit around the problem. Appreciated!

YW!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 22, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Junkenstein, this might be helpful... I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but given that the annual rate for all gun injuries in the US is around 100,000 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite), 65-ish is a very low proportion.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says   

This is also an interesting article: http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/18/navy-yard-whiplash-are-killings-going-up-or-down/

While "school shootings" are certainly the flavor of the moment, I'm not convinced their heavy presence in the media is anything other than a political fulcrum.         

I know we were all having a good chuckle recently at that website which shows correlations between unrelated things, but I think it is very interesting to note that the use of Tetraethyl lead in gasoline began to be phased out in 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaded_gasoline#Tetraethyllead), 20 years before the drop in gun violence.

I know I'm being an unscientific spag by basically saying, "Coincidence?! YOU DECIDE!", but, well, you know.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 12:11:29 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on June 22, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 18, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
Junkenstein, this might be helpful... I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but given that the annual rate for all gun injuries in the US is around 100,000 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547690-just-the-facts-gun-violence-in-america?lite), 65-ish is a very low proportion.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says   

This is also an interesting article: http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/18/navy-yard-whiplash-are-killings-going-up-or-down/

While "school shootings" are certainly the flavor of the moment, I'm not convinced their heavy presence in the media is anything other than a political fulcrum.         

I know we were all having a good chuckle recently at that website which shows correlations between unrelated things, but I think it is very interesting to note that the use of Tetraethyl lead in gasoline began to be phased out in 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaded_gasoline#Tetraethyllead), 20 years before the drop in gun violence.

I know I'm being an unscientific spag by basically saying, "Coincidence?! YOU DECIDE!", but, well, you know.

There's pretty good evidence for there being a connection, and while we may never know for sure, and there may be a number of contributing factors, it seems not unlikely that tetraethyl lead was one of them.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2014, 06:16:11 AM
Yeah, the lead connection is one that is taken fairly seriously by criminologists and some scientists.

I believe it's not just the timing of the drop, but also the factor of the drop in said crime when compared with countries that still use it.  I cannot remember it exactly now, as it was a while ago. but the factor of the drop was almost exactly the factor of the difference, when other variables were accounted for.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 06:31:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2014, 06:16:11 AM
Yeah, the lead connection is one that is taken fairly seriously by criminologists and some scientists.

I believe it's not just the timing of the drop, but also the factor of the drop in said crime when compared with countries that still use it.  I cannot remember it exactly now, as it was a while ago. but the factor of the drop was almost exactly the factor of the difference, when other variables were accounted for.

I'll see if I can find the research paper I remember that was by a researcher who looked specifically at correlations in the US state-by-state and county-by-county, then hypothesized expected decreases in violence in Europe based on later lead removal times, and found her hypothesis to be validated by crime statistics.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
Here it is: http://www.nber.org/papers/w13097.pdf
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Thanks.  The way my week is shaping up, I probably wont be able to read it until the weekend, but at least I'll have a paper to reference should it come up again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Thanks.  The way my week is shaping up, I probably wont be able to read it until the weekend, but at least I'll have a paper to reference should it come up again.

YW! You seem to just be crazy busy right now, but I'm interested in your take on this.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
I might have time tomorrow.  Basically my schedule is roughly 10 hours of writing today, maybe polishing it up and sending it tomorrow depending on how that goes, then working Wednesday and Friday night.  Oh, and my father's birthday is happening somewhere in all of that.  And I need to figure out how to get to Amesbury at some point, too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 23, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
I might have time tomorrow.  Basically my schedule is roughly 10 hours of writing today, maybe polishing it up and sending it tomorrow depending on how that goes, then working Wednesday and Friday night.  Oh, and my father's birthday is happening somewhere in all of that.  And I need to figure out how to get to Amesbury at some point, too.

Good lord! That's a lot to handle. Whenever you have the time to think about it, I'm interested, but obviously you have a lot that takes priority.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 23, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 23, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
Here it is: http://www.nber.org/papers/w13097.pdf

Badasssss! A professor of mine threw out the Lead/Crime thing as a nifty factoid one time in class, and it's stuck in my brain ever since even though I never saw the literature for it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on June 23, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 23, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
Here it is: http://www.nber.org/papers/w13097.pdf

Badasssss! A professor of mine threw out the Lead/Crime thing as a nifty factoid one time in class, and it's stuck in my brain ever since even though I never saw the literature for it.

It's pretty interesting... it's far from achieving consensus, but there's a good and growing body of evidence to support the likelihood that lead is at least a contributing factor.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: minuspace on June 27, 2014, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 23, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on June 23, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on June 23, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
Here it is: http://www.nber.org/papers/w13097.pdf

Badasssss! A professor of mine threw out the Lead/Crime thing as a nifty factoid one time in class, and it's stuck in my brain ever since even though I never saw the literature for it.

It's pretty interesting... it's far from achieving consensus, but there's a good and growing body of evidence to support the likelihood that lead is at least a contributing factor.
After taking abilify, for lead exposure, I'm now exponentially less retarded when controlling my impulses to collect paint chips to pulverize and inhale.  Yay!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 09, 2014, 11:13:53 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28227713

QuoteShortly after Germany's 7-1 win, Bung Moktar Radin tweeted: "WELL DONE..BRAVO...LONG LIVE HITLER..."

QuoteHe told Malaysian newspaper The Star that he meant to compare the German team's performance to how Hitler fought in World War II.

"I don't know what's wrong with people sometimes. Hitler is part of history and the German team fought like how he did," he said.

Comment not required.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Pæs on July 09, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
I was limited to 140 characters so my nuanced comparison between the fighting spirit of the German players and the atrocious but nevertheless fierce and determined actions of the leader of Nazi Germany came out as a hearty cheer for zombie Hitler to rise again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 09, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
I see you've read his apology statement then.

Semi-seriously, this region of the world has had quite the fascination with Hitler for a while. If memory serves, he was(still is?) quite the cultural icon in India and Burma. It's rather odd indeed and I suspect Cain could provide more insight/details there than I can. 
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 09, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
To be fair, after Germany scored five goals in 29 minutes, I'm guessing Brazil felt somewhat like being on the receiving end of a Panzer attack.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 10, 2014, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 09, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
I see you've read his apology statement then.

Semi-seriously, this region of the world has had quite the fascination with Hitler for a while. If memory serves, he was(still is?) quite the cultural icon in India and Burma. It's rather odd indeed and I suspect Cain could provide more insight/details there than I can.

They see Hitler as an anti-colonial fighter who bravely warred against the despotic and expansionist British Empire, basically.

And to be fair, Britain in those parts of the world was, at times, not far removed from Nazi Germany at all.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 10, 2014, 02:25:24 PM
I don't know what's worse.

The fact that "We need to dig a big pit for all these people we shot guys" used to be an incredibly common practice.

Or the fact that that conversation still happens at all with worrying regularity.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on July 10, 2014, 02:29:02 PM
Yeah, most of Hitler's Asian fans have a distressing tendency to skip over all the atrocities he commited, and, when confronted with them, suddenly start acting like the population of Stormfront with the convenient excuses ("it was wartime...mistakes happen...the greater good" etc etc).

Fortunately, admiration for Hitler is a fringe position among Asian political elites.  So there is at least that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 10, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 09, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
To be fair, after Germany scored five goals in 29 minutes, I'm guessing Brazil felt somewhat like being on the receiving end of a Panzer attack.

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: minuspace on July 10, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 10, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 09, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
To be fair, after Germany scored five goals in 29 minutes, I'm guessing Brazil felt somewhat like being on the receiving end of a Panzer attack.

:lulz:
PhENTA-NIHIL-ADED  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Suu on July 17, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
Glenn Beck apparently told his cronies to go after a mayor of a certain town because they stand for LBGT rights.

That town is Salem, Massachusetts.

Hilarity ensued.

https://twitter.com/devbost/status/489549223772176386/photo/1
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Raz Tech on July 17, 2014, 02:41:44 PM
Man that is badass.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on July 17, 2014, 02:51:31 PM
This is a great use of the "why are you hitting yourself?" game.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 17, 2014, 03:11:31 PM
It's even sweeter as I'm fairly certain he can use the donation as a tax write off.

Everybody wins. Well, everybody who isn't a bigot.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Reginald Ret on July 17, 2014, 04:39:10 PM
Oh wow, that did not go where i expected it to go, it was even awesomer!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 05, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/glenn-beck-regrets-fox-news-_n_5645686.html

QuoteReferring to the widening gap between Democrats and Republicans in the U.S., he said he "unintentionally... added to the situation we're in right now."

Yes, it was all an accident.

I'm unsure if this is a better excuse than "just following orders". "I'm too dumb to know better" isn't exactly confidence inspiring and yet still countless clowns will listen to this heap of donkey shit in a suit.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/glenn-beck-regrets-fox-news-_n_5645686.html

QuoteReferring to the widening gap between Democrats and Republicans in the U.S., he said he "unintentionally... added to the situation we're in right now."

Yes, it was all an accident.

I'm unsure if this is a better excuse than "just following orders". "I'm too dumb to know better" isn't exactly confidence inspiring and yet still countless clowns will listen to this heap of donkey shit in a suit.

God, my lips just kept on flapping and stupid things that I totally didn't mean to say kept falling out continuously over a five-year span. It's really too bad that happened to me.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2014, 03:56:48 PM
Can I have another job now please? I said I was sorry.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on August 08, 2014, 07:46:57 PM
This quote is a bit old, but it's really one of my favorites.  I remember when I heard it on the radio, my mind simply shut off for about 30 seconds.

GROVER NORQUIST: That's the morality of the Holocaust. "Well, it's only a small percentage," you know. "I mean, it's not you, it's somebody else." [...]

TERRY GROSS (host of Fresh Air on NPR): Excuse me. Excuse me one second. Did you just --

NORQUIST: Yeah?

TERRY GROSS: -- compare the estate tax with the Holocaust?

NORQUIST: No, the morality that says it's OK to do something to do a group because they're a small percentage of the population is the morality that says that the Holocaust is OK because they didn't target everybody, just a small percentage. What are you worried about? It's not you. It's not you. It's them. And arguing that it's OK to loot some group because it's them, or kill some group because it's them and because it's a small number, that has no place in a democratic society that treats people equally.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on August 12, 2014, 11:18:59 PM
 :aaa:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 03, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
I'm not entirely sure who this fuckwit is, but apparently he's famous:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/02/cee-lo-green-it-isnt-if-the-victim-is-unconscious

QuoteThe singer Cee Lo Green has discussed a court case in which he pleaded no contest to supplying ecstasy to a woman in a series of tweets, including one that read: "People who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!"

Yeah, you probably don't need to bother with more than that here.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
Ugh.  Pretty decent singer, did the "Fuck You" song a few years back with Danger Mouse, as well as "Crazy". 

Well, until I hear more, that's another album I won't be listening to.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on September 03, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 03, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
I'm not entirely sure who this fuckwit is, but apparently he's famous:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/02/cee-lo-green-it-isnt-if-the-victim-is-unconscious

QuoteThe singer Cee Lo Green has discussed a court case in which he pleaded no contest to supplying ecstasy to a woman in a series of tweets, including one that read: "People who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!"

Yeah, you probably don't need to bother with more than that here.

In fairness, I think hes talking about the victims claims of amnesia about the whole event. Ecstasy doesnt really do that. That doesnt invalidate her claim about being raped though. E is a semi-common date rape drug, someone on a large dose without any experience would probably fuck a camel spider if you asked them to.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 03, 2014, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 03, 2014, 09:36:47 AM
I'm not entirely sure who this fuckwit is, but apparently he's famous:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/02/cee-lo-green-it-isnt-if-the-victim-is-unconscious

QuoteThe singer Cee Lo Green has discussed a court case in which he pleaded no contest to supplying ecstasy to a woman in a series of tweets, including one that read: "People who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!"

Yeah, you probably don't need to bother with more than that here.

Nooooo, Cee Lo Green, whyyyy?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 03, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
I believe someone slipped Cee-Lo a huge amount of ecstasy and convinced him to fuck himself via social media.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Freeky on September 03, 2014, 05:34:02 PM
:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 03, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
He's a damn good singer.


I really hope the rape thing was a poor joke.  But it probably wasn't.  :(
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 03, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
I believe someone slipped Cee-Lo a huge amount of ecstasy and convinced him to fuck himself via social media.

When someone brakes on a home there is broken glass where is your plausible proof that anyone fucked himself on social media.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 03, 2014, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 03, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
Ugh.  Pretty decent singer, did the "Fuck You" song a few years back with Danger Mouse, as well as "Crazy". 

Well, until I hear more, that's another album I won't be listening to.

I really liked his work. Too bad he's almost certainly a rapist.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 04, 2014, 08:08:29 AM
Quote from: N E T on September 03, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
I believe someone slipped Cee-Lo a huge amount of ecstasy and convinced him to fuck himself via social media.

When someone brakes on a home there is broken glass where is your plausible proof that anyone fucked himself on social media.

It was a joke. :|
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 04, 2014, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 04, 2014, 08:08:29 AM
Quote from: N E T on September 03, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2014, 05:32:44 PM
I believe someone slipped Cee-Lo a huge amount of ecstasy and convinced him to fuck himself via social media.

When someone brakes on a home there is broken glass where is your plausible proof that anyone fucked himself on social media.

It was a joke. :|

I know, so was my reply. One of Cee Lo's tweets read: "When someone brakes on a home there is broken glass where is your plausible proof that anyone was raped."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 04, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
Oh, sorry.  Still waking up here.  I laffed once you explained, though.

I also avoid Twitter at all costs, as a rule.  It's a toxic cesspit and not even in a fun way, like, say, 4chan.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 04, 2014, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 04, 2014, 08:30:54 AM
Oh, sorry.  Still waking up here.  I laffed once you explained, though.

I also avoid Twitter at all costs, as a rule.  It's a toxic cesspit and not even in a fun way, like, say, 4chan.

Don't worry about it.

I've spent about 15 minutes on Twitter following some interesting links once and that's about it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 04, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
That is one thing I'll admit Twitter is good for, and why I don't just delete my account entirely.

Still, I do on average a weekly purge of people whose annoying arguments and petty sniping/interesting links ratio gets too high.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 04, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
Sigh:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ted-cruzs-dad-the-average-black-does-not-understand-the-mini#3pu54dw

Quotehe father of Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said black people "need to be educated" about Democrats, so that they will vote Republican. Rafael Cruz, who made the comments at the Western Williamson Republican Club's August meeting, added "the average black does not" understand that the minimum wage is bad.

Quote"I am going to try to encourage everybody I can to buy a book written by a black journalist. His name is Jason Riley. He wrote a book called Please Stop Helping Us, talking about how all the handouts to blacks have kept blacks in the poorhouse. And I'll tell you what, I am going to make it my task to buy 15 to 20 copies of that book and hand it out to some black leaders to read."
"Jason Riley said in an interview, Did you know before we had minimum wage laws black unemployment and white unemployment were the same? If we increase the minimum wage, black unemployment will skyrocket. See, he understands it, but the average black does not."

There's video, if that's not enough dumb for one day.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 17, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
QuoteA New York pastor who believes that Jesus would have stoned LGBT people said this week that the NASA Voyager spacecraft's journey through the Solar System verified that homosexuality is perverted.

In a YouTube message to his followers posted over the weekend, Atlah World Missionary Church Rev. James David Manning said that gay Christians were misusing Bible verses to claim that God loved them.

"It makes you wonder about their legitimate place in the universe to think that somehow or another that we're no longer under those laws," he opined, adding that the Earth and the Sun would be destroyed before "sodomy and the abominable practice of man lying with man" was not a sin.


"Any effeminate person will not enter into the Kingdom of God just for acting like a homo," the pastor insisted. "I mean, you just act sweet, you ain't going to Heaven, homie. Read it right there. Read it and weep."

"The entire universe rebukes sodomy, it rebukes same-sex marriage, it rebukes man lying with man."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/new-york-pastors-wild-rectum-rant-nasa-voyager-probe-proved-homos-are-perverts/

You know, my desire to just say "Fuck it" and go full televangelist is growing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 17, 2014, 11:02:57 AM
http://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/WATCH-Egyptian-academic-demands-Jews-give-back-gold-stolen-during-the-Exodus-375282

Quote...(Jews who left) during the Exodus stole Egyptian gold and treasures and must be made to pay back what they took - with interest, an Egyptian political scientist has claimed.

Ammar Ali Hassan told Egypt's Channel 1 in a July interview translated by MEMRI, "We know for a fact that Moses was in this land. Most of the Jews who left Egypt to wander in the Sinai Desert were the Jews who defied Moses and rejected his preachings."

Are we actually at the point now where any old crazy shit said by anyone claiming to be some kind of expert is news? It feels like we are.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2014, 11:14:44 AM
"Translated by MEMRI" should make you pause.  MEMRI is an Israeli "think tank" staffed to the brim with former IDF intelligence and Mossad people.  Under the guise of providing "translation services" they basically wage propaganda warfare on behalf of the Israeli government.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 17, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
Ah. Well, that explains that somewhat. Appreciated.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
Which is not to say some idiot in Egypt didn't voice an opinion along those lines.

But basically, MEMRI trawls the cranks and lunatics of the Arab world, the sort of Daily Mail and Express op-eds of the Middle East, mistranslates them as badly as possible to make the statements look even more negative, then releases them in order to discredit Arab populations as superstitious and ignorant savages.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 06, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
Can you prosecute Maher for something yet? Please?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780960/It-s-gross-s-racist-Ben-Affleck-clashes-guest-Bill-Maher-talk-claims-Islam-motherload-bad-ideas-host-compares-religion-Mafia.html

(Yes, it's a bad day when you're 1)getting your news from the Daily Heil and 2)Agreeing with Ben Affleck.

Quote'Or how about the more than a billion people who aren't fanatical, who don't punish women, who just want to go to school, have some sandwiches, and don't do any of the things you say all Muslims do?' Affleck adds.
Maher responds to this by saying: 'One reason they (other views) don't get exposed is because they are afraid to speak out. Because it's the only religion that acts like the Mafia. That will f***ing kill if you say the wrong thing, draw the wrong picture or write the wrong book.'

Bonus idiocy - Interview features Sam Harris.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 06, 2014, 11:42:46 AM
Yeah, it's good no other religions ever act like the Mafia (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=vatican+mafia).
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 06, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
Perish the thought.

I can't help but wonder how these kind of clowns would react if you explained about murderous Buddhist monks and such. Actually, that's an idea. I'd pay money to see Buddhists get the same treatment Muslims get from Fox. You know, for fairness and balance.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 06, 2014, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on October 06, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
Can you prosecute Maher for something yet? Please?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780960/It-s-gross-s-racist-Ben-Affleck-clashes-guest-Bill-Maher-talk-claims-Islam-motherload-bad-ideas-host-compares-religion-Mafia.html

(Yes, it's a bad day when you're 1)getting your news from the Daily Heil and 2)Agreeing with Ben Affleck.

Quote'Or how about the more than a billion people who aren't fanatical, who don't punish women, who just want to go to school, have some sandwiches, and don't do any of the things you say all Muslims do?' Affleck adds.
Maher responds to this by saying: 'One reason they (other views) don't get exposed is because they are afraid to speak out. Because it's the only religion that acts like the Mafia. That will f***ing kill if you say the wrong thing, draw the wrong picture or write the wrong book.'

Bonus idiocy - Interview features Sam Harris.

One of my classmates looooooves Sam Harris and I haven't had the heart to tell her that I think he's kind of a chode.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 16, 2014, 07:48:20 AM
The "I can't even" files, 776221sdj/B:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29639956

QuoteAuthor John Grisham has criticised the US justice system for handing down "harsh" prison sentences to those viewing indecent images of children.

Quote"We have prisons now filled with guys my age. Sixty-year-old white men in prison who've never harmed anybody, would never touch a child," he told the Telegraph.

"But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn."

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 16, 2014, 10:17:58 AM
Well...I'm not sure of US law in this regard, and I'm going off simply what you've quoted there.

But if US law is the same as UK law, then, no matter what, whether it's by accident or legitimate research (say, as part of a law firm or child advocacy group), no matter who you are or what circumstance it occurs under, accessing child porn is illegal and so long as there is proof you did it, there are no mitigating circumstances which allow you to avoid or reduce your sentence.

Intent does not apply at all to child pornography, and I can understand why that is.  On the other hand, apparently you can rape children for decades if you're a celebrity without suffering any ill consequences, so there does seem to be something of a discrepancy here.  And furthermore, how many actual cases of this have occured?  Any innocent person in prison is a tragedy, a truly vile criminal act.  But does it happen that often, with this particular offence?  I don't know.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 16, 2014, 12:00:05 PM
Fair comment.

Let's add some further context to the quote:

QuoteHe said a "good buddy" of his had been imprisoned for three years for viewing child pornography on a website labelled "sixteen-year-old wannabe hookers" when his drinking was out of control.

"We have prisons now filled with guys my age. Sixty-year-old white men in prison who've never harmed anybody, would never touch a child," he told the Telegraph.

"But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn."

US judges had "gone crazy" during the last 30 years, he added.

"I have no sympathy for real paedophiles. God, please lock those people up. But so many of these guys do not deserve harsh prison sentences, and that's what they're getting."

To me, this sounds like the man has had a couple too many drinks and looked at questionable content. It's the exact kind of behaviour you'd expect to see when someone's worried they might get a knock on the door over their browsing history.

The other thing is the "My buddy looked at 16yearoldwannabehookers.com while drunk and is now in jail. This seems unfair to me". Have you ever been so drunk that you've just been feeling crazy and wanted to have a laugh looking at child porn? I haven't.

The final bit is the fear. He's identifying and it again, seem to me to be sympathising with other celebrities around his age who are facing uncomfortable questions and jail over their activities. He's attacking an apparent prison pipeline but this is surely far from the largest feeder to prisons. In fact, based on the numbers of people in jail for offences, it's probably one of the smallest pipelines. When compared to say Drugs, debt or misbehaving in school.

Overall, it just seems to be another stunning example of a generational gap in thinking. Men, particularly in their late 50's + seem to be coming out with this kind of shit rather frequently and at best it's minimising a horrific crime and at worst justifying it as somehow acceptable, in the right context.

If he want's to talk about the number of folk in prison, fine. That's certainly worth discussing. You want to talk about a realistic way to reform and rehabilitate convicted paedophiles? Sure. The current system is a joke and just warehouses them in an increasingly untenable way. You want to tell me your buddy has a drinking problem and was looking at child porn and shouldn't be in jail for that? Well, now we have a bit of a problem.

Let's put it this way :

If I told you I had a good friend who is now in jail because he looked a a website with a name close to the above, what would you:
A - Think of me
B- Think of my friend.

I doubt it would be positive.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 16, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
Ah, well, in that context, yeah, that's pretty shitty.

I think there is a valid point (in the way I put it), but obviously that's quite tainted and self-serving given the circumstances.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 16, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
Well at least it's another name to add to the list of people likely to get a knock on the door.

Still got money on Bruce. Somewhat surprised there's been no more on Cliff. He's probably the only accused so far able to afford a decent lawyer.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 16, 2014, 12:24:58 PM
I still think Bruce is more of a tall leggy blonde kind of guy.  Like Rod Stewart, only with even less musical talent (yes, this is possible). 

Surprising the papers aren't talking more about Cliff, but as you say, he can afford the best lawyers money can buy.  His legal team have probably put the police-media leak machine on the defensive, knowing any screwup will be used to delay or throw the trial.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 16, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
Assuming it even gets that far. I would suspect he's got access to the finest fixers around as well so any evidence is probably disappearing as quickly as it is found.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 17, 2014, 04:20:12 AM
Well, heaven knows that sixty-year-old white men don't belong in prison! Goodness me. Those are the very last people who should ever belong in prison.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 17, 2014, 04:23:34 AM
Just for getting drunk and committing a bit of a sex offense. I mean, don't sixty-year-old white guys get a pass for anything anymore? He was drunk, which makes it not his fault he looked at underage porn, anymore than it would be his fault if he accidentally forced himself on the housekeeper again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: LMNO on October 17, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I've been thinking about this.

There's a certain level of intoxication one needs to have to get on the internet and go to a website called "16yearoldwannabehookers.com" and think that's a good idea.

However, once at that level of intoxication, it's practically impossible to even find the computer, much less accurately type that URL.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 17, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
Well, that autocomplete feature is a fucker.

Which, however, implies he was on it before.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2014, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 17, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I've been thinking about this.

There's a certain level of intoxication one needs to have to get on the internet and go to a website called "16yearoldwannabehookers.com" and think that's a good idea.

However, once at that level of intoxication, it's practically impossible to even find the computer, much less accurately type that URL.

Not just that, but who the fuck got him drunk?  It wasn't me.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: notloki on October 17, 2014, 02:11:15 PM
not making excuses for creepo just wonder.

maybe click stupid pop up from porn website while drunk?

then pop up take drunk to bad website?

or no
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Raz Tech on October 17, 2014, 02:24:15 PM
It almost sort of sounds like a peopleofWalmart-esque website based on the URL, but I can't logically discern a sequence of events that would lead you there.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Faust on October 17, 2014, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 17, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I've been thinking about this.

There's a certain level of intoxication one needs to have to get on the internet and go to a website called "16yearoldwannabehookers.com" and think that's a good idea.

However, once at that level of intoxication, it's practically impossible to even find the computer, much less accurately type that URL.

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/10/16/john-grishams-new-novel-to-be-about-novelist-who-ruined-his-own-career/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 18, 2014, 01:33:57 AM
I have clicked on some horrible shit by accident.

And then clicked away.

I kind of have a feeling that these respectable 60 year old white men (love that he included the white part) probably wouldn't be successfully prosecuted if they clicked away.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on October 18, 2014, 02:47:05 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on October 18, 2014, 01:33:57 AM
I have clicked on some horrible shit by accident.

And then clicked away.

I kind of have a feeling that these respectable 60 year old white men (love that he included the white part) probably wouldn't be successfully prosecuted if they clicked away.

Yeah, 60 year old could have implied confused/senile or just bad at newfangled technology, but there's just no way to explain away "white".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 20, 2014, 02:43:06 PM
In a stunning display of badly timed news, there's this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29692685

(UK, not USA related, but still, the theme is the same and I suspect similar conversations/statements to occur in due course)

QuoteSome paedophiles with images of child abuse will escape prosecution, the head of the National Crime Agency says.

Keith Bristow said the NCA would have to focus on pursuing those who posed most risk but that others would face a "range of interventions".

Some 660 arrests were made during a recent operation targeting people who had accessed child abuse images online.

However, the BBC understands that as many as 20,000-30,000 individuals were identified during that investigation.

QuoteNCA director general Mr Bristow said the work to assess the images was "high volume" and had to be done at pace.

"If there are 50,000 people involved in this particularly horrible type of criminality, I don't believe all 50,000 will end up in the criminal justice system," he said at a briefing for journalists.

"It's uncomfortable but we're going work through it in a logical way, target the most risky first."

QuoteHe said there would be a "range of interventions" which for some of the offenders could fall short of them "standing in a court".

QuoteThe NCA said it had to focus on those who did the most harm to children.

Society would have to have "deeply uncomfortable conversations" about the scale of child abuse and how to respond to it, Mr Bristow added.

Well, to the bold I would say that the scale is increasingly apparent to be huge beyond what even most cynical suspected. How to respond?  There is apparently a system of law and due process here but the above seems to be implying that this is impractical/impossible due to the scale and number of offenders.

What this will lead to, I have no idea. Proposals of some kind of amnesty for offenders earlier than year X? Or Older than Y? Dedicated police and courts? Fuck knows. The only thing I know is that when Society has a deeply uncomfortable conversation with itself innocent people get fucked over. I think it would be better to have a deeply uncomfortable conversation with the police about all kinds of things, such as enabling offenders and failing to monitor and arrest known offenders. What we seem to have here is a massive failing of Law enforcement and instead of, you know, actually enforcing the law, this dickhead thinks that everyone needs to have a chat and go soul searching about paedophiles.

Oh, and this will become a racial issue in short order. Not even taking bets on that given the current state of the UK.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Trivial on January 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/)

This fucker used to be our parish's bishop.  He fucked things up there too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: hooplala on January 08, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: Trivial on January 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/)

This fucker used to be our parish's bishop.  He fucked things up there too.

I've never used the word "malarkey" before, but I'm using it here. This guy is so full of shit he can't keep straight what he's talking about. The pedophilic priests go back waaaaay further than the 1970s, but nice try on his part.

Why can't people who don't like women just admit it, rather than invent all sorts of jive to try to justify it. I like Tiny Tim music... most people don't. I don't make excuses for it: I just like it.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 08, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: Trivial on January 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/)

This fucker used to be our parish's bishop.  He fucked things up there too.

I've never used the word "malarkey" before, but I'm using it here. This guy is so full of shit he can't keep straight what he's talking about. The pedophilic priests go back waaaaay further than the 1970s, but nice try on his part.

Why can't people who don't like women just admit it, rather than invent all sorts of jive to try to justify it. I like Tiny Tim music... most people don't. I don't make excuses for it: I just like it.

Probably because "I don't like women" is even less socially acceptable than "Feminism causes pedophilia".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: hooplala on January 08, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 08, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: Trivial on January 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/)

This fucker used to be our parish's bishop.  He fucked things up there too.

I've never used the word "malarkey" before, but I'm using it here. This guy is so full of shit he can't keep straight what he's talking about. The pedophilic priests go back waaaaay further than the 1970s, but nice try on his part.

Why can't people who don't like women just admit it, rather than invent all sorts of jive to try to justify it. I like Tiny Tim music... most people don't. I don't make excuses for it: I just like it.

Probably because "I don't like women" is even less socially acceptable than "Feminism causes pedophilia".

There's that, plus they probably don't think they din't like women. I know a few genuine racists who would likely be shocked to be referred to as such.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2015, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 08, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 08, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: Trivial on January 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/demoted-catholic-cardinal-radical-feminists-are-to-blame-for-pedophile-priests/)

This fucker used to be our parish's bishop.  He fucked things up there too.

I've never used the word "malarkey" before, but I'm using it here. This guy is so full of shit he can't keep straight what he's talking about. The pedophilic priests go back waaaaay further than the 1970s, but nice try on his part.

Why can't people who don't like women just admit it, rather than invent all sorts of jive to try to justify it. I like Tiny Tim music... most people don't. I don't make excuses for it: I just like it.

Probably because "I don't like women" is even less socially acceptable than "Feminism causes pedophilia".

There's that, plus they probably don't think they din't like women. I know a few genuine racists who would likely be shocked to be referred to as such.

The human mind is limitless in its ability to deceive itself. Look at James Watson, one of the two guys who is famous for figuring out the structure of DNA. A few years ago, he said some incredibly dumbshit stuff about black people, and to this day feels like people just took him wrong, because he's "not racist", he just thinks that it's a scientific fact that black people aren't as smart as white people and that's why Africa has so many problems.

The worst thing about beliefs like this is that there may be some miniscule grain of truth in them; given the incredible impoverishment of so many people in Africa, and the lack of resources, it is very likely that the average IQ in the poorer countries there is quite a bit lower than the average IQ in, say, Denmark. And that is something we should worry about.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2015, 04:02:57 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/foxs-bob-beckel-compares-islamic-terror-to-dating-your-mixed-race-girlfriend/

QuoteFox News host Bob Beckel tried to compare an alleged rise in acceptance for Islamic extremism in France to tolerance for interracial dating in the U.S., Media Matters reported on Thursday.

"I think it's sort of like in the United States where younger people today, it's not at all unusual for people to see multicultural dating, for example," Beckel told his co-hosts on The Five. "Back when I was young you didn't date out of your own ethnicity. But in Europe and other places, this mingling that's going on here, younger people are beginning to find this acceptable. And that's the thing that is sort of scary because they're getting exposed to it on a daily basis."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 09, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2015, 04:02:57 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/foxs-bob-beckel-compares-islamic-terror-to-dating-your-mixed-race-girlfriend/

QuoteFox News host Bob Beckel tried to compare an alleged rise in acceptance for Islamic extremism in France to tolerance for interracial dating in the U.S., Media Matters reported on Thursday.

"I think it's sort of like in the United States where younger people today, it's not at all unusual for people to see multicultural dating, for example," Beckel told his co-hosts on The Five. "Back when I was young you didn't date out of your own ethnicity. But in Europe and other places, this mingling that's going on here, younger people are beginning to find this acceptable. And that's the thing that is sort of scary because they're getting exposed to it on a daily basis."

WHAT THE FUCK  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I could actually see his point being totally different from what it sounds like, but what it sounds like is completely moronic.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2015, 04:30:15 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 09, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2015, 04:02:57 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/foxs-bob-beckel-compares-islamic-terror-to-dating-your-mixed-race-girlfriend/

QuoteFox News host Bob Beckel tried to compare an alleged rise in acceptance for Islamic extremism in France to tolerance for interracial dating in the U.S., Media Matters reported on Thursday.

"I think it's sort of like in the United States where younger people today, it's not at all unusual for people to see multicultural dating, for example," Beckel told his co-hosts on The Five. "Back when I was young you didn't date out of your own ethnicity. But in Europe and other places, this mingling that's going on here, younger people are beginning to find this acceptable. And that's the thing that is sort of scary because they're getting exposed to it on a daily basis."

WHAT THE FUCK  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I could actually see his point being totally different from what it sounds like, but what it sounds like is completely moronic.

What's amazing is that the man is a walking stereotype.  He looks like a character from Oh, Brother, Where Art Thou.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: minuspace on January 09, 2015, 07:03:06 AM
"I was all thinking double- helix, but then it turned out there was two of them."
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: hooplala on January 09, 2015, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 09, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2015, 04:02:57 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/foxs-bob-beckel-compares-islamic-terror-to-dating-your-mixed-race-girlfriend/

QuoteFox News host Bob Beckel tried to compare an alleged rise in acceptance for Islamic extremism in France to tolerance for interracial dating in the U.S., Media Matters reported on Thursday.

"I think it's sort of like in the United States where younger people today, it's not at all unusual for people to see multicultural dating, for example," Beckel told his co-hosts on The Five. "Back when I was young you didn't date out of your own ethnicity. But in Europe and other places, this mingling that's going on here, younger people are beginning to find this acceptable. And that's the thing that is sort of scary because they're getting exposed to it on a daily basis."

WHAT THE FUCK  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I could actually see his point being totally different from what it sounds like, but what it sounds like is completely moronic.

He must have grown up in Petticoat Junction.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: MMIX on January 12, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
Fox fux up again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30773297
QuoteAn American terrorism commentator speaking on Fox News has been forced to apologise for describing Birmingham as a "Muslim-only city" where non-Muslims "don't go in".

Steven Emerson told the channel that in London "Muslim religious police" beat "anyone who doesn't dress according to Muslim, religious Muslim attire".

He later issued an apology for his "terrible error".

But many on social media have been ridiculing his comments.

Yes I realise it is only Fox news but this putz has supposedly given evidence to Congressional commitees and heads up a thing called The Investigative Project on Terrorism  Wow and their finances look a bit iffy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_Project_on_Terrorism

And this is apparently not his first foot in mouth moment because when I looked him up [yeah I know its only Wiki]
QuoteDespite being widely criticized for his inaccuracies[3][4][5][6][7][8] and for fomenting Islamophobia,[9] Emerson frequently testifies before Congressional committees on al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.[10]
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![my emphasis]

He's said he's going to give a donation to Brum and apologised grovellingly but he also dissed London with his comment on Sharia policing and seems to think that that is ok if he pleads to Birmingham, but the thing I haven't found in any report yet, though it may come in later is the huge elephant in the room that he believes that this could be actually happening in Britain right now. And another gem from Emerson's wiki page
QuoteRichard Clarke, former head of counter-terrorism for the United States National Security Council, said of Emerson:
"I think of Steve as the Paul Revere of terrorism ... We'd always learn things [from him] we weren't hearing from the FBI or CIA, things which almost always proved to be true."

FFS America, get a grip  :roll:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 12, 2015, 06:50:51 PM
I become more convinced each day that the interview process for Faux News basically involves telling the stupidest lie you can think of and then stating why it is utter SCIENTFICAL fact for 5 minutes with no interruptions, stuttering or repetition while talking over 2 other people stating the truth.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 12, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
QuoteWow and their finances look a bit iffy,

ahem:

QuoteIn January 2014, former congressman and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, was named the Shillman Senior Fellow for IPT specializing in national security, international relations, global terrorism and cyber security.

That's a little overt. Remember Pete Hoekstra? No?

QuoteOn June 22, 2006, Hoekstra made headlines by announcing at a press conference in the Capitol that weapons of mass destruction had been located in Iraq in the form of 500 chemical weapons.[9]
A number of other media outlets disputed the claims made by Hoekstra and Rick Santorum regarding the existence of weapons of mass destruction, reporting that the claims were disputed by both Pentagon officials, the Duelfer Report, and the intelligence community.

No?

QuoteAs of September 17, 2007, some news outlets reported that the Congressional committee Hoekstra had overseen had created "erroneous" and "misleading" reports about Iran's nuclear capabilities. "Among the committee's assertions is that Iran is producing weapons-grade uranium at its facility in the town of Natanz. The IAEA called that "incorrect", noting that weapons-grade uranium is enriched to a level of 90 percent or more. Iran has enriched uranium to 3.5 percent under IAEA monitoring."

No?

QuoteHoekstra targeted Democratic incumbent Debbie Stabenow with a television ad which ran statewide during the 2012 Super Bowl.[33] The 30-second ad opened with the sound of a gong and the image of a delighted Chinese woman (played by 2012 Miss Napa Valley Lisa Chan)[34] riding a bike in a rice paddy speaking pidgin English. The ad sarcastically accused Stabenow of contributing to the U.S.' spending problem by the woman saying "Thank you, Michigan Senator Debbie Spenditnow" -implying China is thankfully delighted for Stabenow's help to provide them higher U.S. bonds earnings from the spending increases.

No?

QuoteIn an interview with NPR (Dec. 10th 2014) with Robert Siegel, he wanted to keep the and indorsed the torture techniques used by the CIA

Nothing yet?

Nevermind, it's just another evil useless sack of meat. There's far more shite too. If you can be judged by the company you keep, having Hoekstra around indicates you enjoy shitting yourself. Repeatedly. About ethnic folks.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: MMIX on January 12, 2015, 11:57:43 PM
Shillman Fellow, WTF I just can't stop laughing. This is comedy gold, you couldn't make it up
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 13, 2015, 12:04:15 AM
Considering his record it's hard profitably earned.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: MMIX on January 13, 2015, 12:06:31 AM
I may never stop laughing
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 13, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 13, 2015, 03:24:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10934429_1537934343157609_1150785411_n.jpg?oh=8c54479ca90d6087275f8d7b2849d5b0&oe=54B767EC&__gda__=1421301693_e57e7046ca4974870e1af0e285672722)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2015, 03:33:46 PM
Yet another example of #FoxNewsFacts
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 14, 2015, 01:57:32 AM
I can't even tell if that's satire or not anymore.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 14, 2015, 04:22:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 13, 2015, 03:24:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10934429_1537934343157609_1150785411_n.jpg?oh=8c54479ca90d6087275f8d7b2849d5b0&oe=54B767EC&__gda__=1421301693_e57e7046ca4974870e1af0e285672722)

:horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: NEVAR FORGET
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on January 22, 2015, 09:33:47 AM
I was gonna make a separate UKIP thread, but maybe they deserve to be lumped in here.

QuoteA Ukip-branded leaflet has suggested benefit claimants should be banned from driving on UK roads to ease congestion.

The document, which appears to have been sent out by the campaign of Lynton Yates, the Ukip candidate for Charnwood in Leicestershire, asks why claimants "have the privilege to spend the taxpayer's hard-earned money on a car" and suggests they instead "catch a bus".

"We could likely remove six million cars from the road if benefit claimants were not driving," it reads. "Why do they have the privilege to spend the taxpayer's hard-earned money on a car, when those in work are struggling to keep their own car on the road? These people could really catch a bus!"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/21/benefit-claimants-cars-buses-ukip-leaflet

For bonus 'hilarity' my dad's response to this was 'Yeah, that seems sensible. If you're on benefits you shouldn't have any disposable income, so how can you afford to run a car unless you're doing something illegal?'

Because when you're ill and incapable of work, you should be confined to your home, and if you're unemployed, it makes perfect sense to cut down the locations you can reach to interview to those within walking distance or available by public transport.

Fuck now I'm angry again.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2015, 10:27:32 AM
Temporary job setbacks dont real, as the yoof of today might say.

And it's not like jobs around the country offer petrol money to those they invite to interview or anything, right?  Every time a Kipper opens their mouth, I am more and more convinced they have never existed in the real world.  They've probably had the same couple of comfy jobs all their lives, and literally have no idea what the modern job market entails.

I also like the implied "being on benefits sucks and makes you so extremely poor you cant even afford to do the basics of life...so lets punish the fuckers even more!"  That's a nice touch.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on January 22, 2015, 10:55:41 AM
Yeah. Not only is this the case, but it is morally right that being on benefits should make your life as uncomfortable as possible.

We've literally had people on jobseeker's allowance starving to death and they want to squeeze them even further.

I remember reading an article a while back which posited that the attitude directed towards 'benefits scroungers' combined with record levels of youth unemployment and cutbacks to mental health services is going to result in an increasing number of spectacular breakdowns in public, basically because people are winding up trapped in a situation they see no way out of, the services used to help them are cut back to the point of uselessness, and they are told that this is all their own fault.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2015, 11:29:19 AM
Yup.  Thank goodness we don't have ready access to firearms over here, or it'd be a complete nightmare in the making.

It'd also be interesting to run those statistics for Muslim youth.  I could very easily turn unemployment into a national security issue.  The Red Brigades emerged from the unemployed, heavily Marxist educated students of the Italian 1960s.  Just saying, when you're unemployed and the state is harassing you, someone  hypothetical group going around claiming to want to combat the state - let's call this group, for the sake of argument "Ql-Aaeda" or "LISI" - is probably going to get more recruits than if everyone's got a job and feels like they're going somewhere.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 22, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
We mass produce terrorists, globally by setting up near perfect incubator conditions and then act all shocked cos terrorism, resulting in enacting "combative" measures which specifically act as accelerators, nitro boost for your global terrorism production apparatus.

Given that this terrorism generation effort is more effective than any other measure I could envisage, either our collective agenda is to replace every man woman and child on earth with either a terrorist or a smoldering corpse put there by a terrorist or else the powers that be really are dumber than a sack of particularly intellectually challenged shit.

I'm not sure which explanation I find more horrifying  :eek:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Trivial on January 28, 2015, 04:24:12 AM
(http://img.fark.net/images/cache/850/4/4S/fark_4SlOW3mj4eiOlOi9QaHf5SGhwVQ.jpg?t=aP0YorXd_ecxpUsHWMvh1w&f=1422853200)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2015, 08:14:24 AM
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/77161/kayla-mueller-dead-isis-hostage-was-jew-hating-anti-israel-bitch/

QuoteNo tears for the newly-departed Kayla Mueller, the ISIS hostage whose parents confirmed today that she is dead. Mueller was a Jew-hating, anti-Israel piece of crap who worked with HAMAS and helped Palestinians harass Israeli soldiers and block them from doing their job of keeping Islamic terrorists out of Israel. She also worked to prevent Israel from tearing down terrorists' "houses," which the Palestinian terrorists used to smuggle weapons from and to HAMAS in order to perpetrate terrorist attacks. And she wrote several lying, anti-Israel blog posts.

As I noted last week and many other times on this site, I have no sympathy for any of these "American" (in name only!) hostages of ISIS. And my attitude when I hear they've been snuffed out is, so sad, too bad. Every single one of these hostages has been a leftist America-hater. They are anti-American "journalists" there to tell us how "moderate" and "democratic" these beheaders and live-human-burners are. Or they are anti-American "aid workers" (that's like the Middle East version of Barack Obama's "community organizer").

This latter category describes Kayla Mueller, who went to Israel and the so-called "West Bank" and Gaza to help HAMASnik Jew-haters. From the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), a terrorist group that aided and abetted Al-Qaeda, HAMAS, Islamic Jihad, and Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade terrorists (including two British Muslims who blew up "Mike's Bar" in Tel Aviv):

Abdullah Abu Rahma, coordinator of the popular committee in the village of Bil'in where Kayla joined the protests, told ISM: "Kayla came to Palestine to stand in solidarity with us. She marched with us and faced the military that occupies our land side by side with us. For this, Kayla will always live in our hearts. We send all our support to her family and will continue, like Kayla, to work against injustice wherever it is." . . .

With the ISM, Kayla worked with Palestinians . . . resisting the confiscation and demolitions of their homes and lands. In the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of Occupied East Jerusalem, she stayed with the Al Kurd family to try and prevent the takeover of their home by Israeli settlers.

Mueller also praised Palestinians who attacked Israelis with rocks and said she marched "arm in arm" with them and supported their violence.

So, it's poetic justice that Mueller spent her last months as a hostage of the Islamic terrorists with whom she thought she had some sort of kinship and sisterhood. And that she died in their hands.

When people ask me what I think of Kayla Mueller, I'll say, I think she's incinerated.

Buh-bye, Kayla. Have fun with your 72 Yasser Arafats.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 12, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
I do sometimes wonder if these people read the things they write.

What a lovely human being. I'm sure that the famously bloodthirsty and unforgiving Jesus would approve of her callous attitude towards those brutally murdered.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2015, 08:26:31 AM
Of course.

Schlussel is basically a low-rent Ann Coulter...something which has not hindered her career at FOX News any.  Or her career as a attorney, for some reason.

She's actually somewhat infamous in Israel, not least because when she was challenged by a Times of Israel blogger, she responded with quite a few insults, such as "the Jewish smart gene clearly missed you", "Good thing you weren't around in 1944, or you'd be defending the Nazi's kapos and Goebbels" and "Anyone who knows anything about Judaism knows that Reform Jews are completely ignorant of Judaism".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on February 16, 2015, 09:33:38 PM
Anybody notice anyone suspiciously missing from the SNL 40 year anniversary show?


Stupid wingnut sings something stupid edition!


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/watch-former-snl-ditz-victoria-jacksons-hilariously-awful-muslim-in-the-white-house-song/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 18, 2015, 12:08:04 PM
Couple of good ones from Iain Duncan Smith, my personal favorite idiot sociopath.

From an email sent on his behalf to supporters:

QuoteAt the heart of our welfare reforms is a simple goal: to tackle the culture of welfare dependency that Labour allowed to develop.

So we're creating a system that helps people stand on their own two feet - restoring the incentive to work and ensuring that work always pays.

Gone will be the days when it could make more sense to sit on benefits than enter work. Now, the right choice is also the logical one.

Our new Universal Credit is already transforming lives, freeing people from welfare dependency and helping them provide for themselves and their families.

Yet Labour refuse to back the scheme. Having opposed every one of our vital welfare reforms, including the benefit cap, again they stand in the way of progress.

This would be the fantastic benefits scheme which has lead to deaths. (http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2014/11/dwp-admits-investigating-60-benefit-related-deaths-since-2012/) And how dare the opposition oppose things! Those bastards.

And more hilarity!

The Big Issue (a magazine sold by homeless people to help them get money to survive) is a front for migrant benefits fraud:

Quote from: IDSwhat is happening progressively, more and more, is people mostly from southern and eastern Europe have actually ended up being Big Issue sellers and they claim, as self-employed, immediately, tax credits.

So when we talk about benefits, they are not just out-of-work benefits, they are also in-work benefits that are being claimed.

I often look at the miserable people selling the Big Issue in the cold and damp and think 'look at that person, they've obviously managed to eat at least one meal in the past 24 hours, those scrounging scumbags.' I'm glad to see this issue is receiving the attention it deserves, rather than the thousands of tax evading multi-millionaires which the government has studiously avoided for years.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2015, 04:16:05 PM
When chosing between "effective governance" and "kicking a poor person", the Tories will choose the latter every single time.

If Labour were an effective opposition party, they could ruin the Tories for a generation with their attitude towards the working poor and young people.  But, alas...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2015, 11:11:48 AM
 :horrormirth:

Also, according to a UKIP supporter who is a friend of Suu on Facebook, the EU has banned the flying of the Union Jack and Cross of St George.  And noone living in Central Manchester speaks English any more.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 11:27:39 AM
And they said the Monster Raving Looney party could never have real electoral success. Their time is now!
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

:lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

There are no fucking words. :tgrr:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 20, 2015, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

:lulz:

Keep laughing. This is one of the smart ones, it pronounced "renewable".
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 20, 2015, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

There are no fucking words. :tgrr:

"Emergency legislation" to block AP history because they teach bad things about Amurrica.

"Call 911! Patty has a copy of A People's History of the United States!"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 20, 2015, 11:36:34 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

:lulz:

That's amazing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2015, 01:07:37 AM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

We almost need a laughing-while-vomiting smiley.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2015, 01:09:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

There are no fucking words. :tgrr:

NO TEAHCHUN CHILLRUNS THE TROOF, TROOF IS ANTI-AMAAAARRRUUUUKAN
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 21, 2015, 01:18:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2015, 01:07:37 AM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

We almost need a laughing-while-vomiting smiley.

I always assumed the horrormirth emote was the prelude to that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2015, 01:42:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2015, 01:18:35 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2015, 01:07:37 AM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 20, 2015, 06:28:48 AM
"What happens when renewable energy runs out?" - Victoria Ayling, Ukip's candidate for Great Grimsby

We almost need a laughing-while-vomiting smiley.

I always assumed the horrormirth emote was the prelude to that.

It is indeed. So perfect.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 21, 2015, 02:15:46 AM
Quote from: N E T on February 20, 2015, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

There are no fucking words. :tgrr:

"Emergency legislation" to block AP history because they teach bad things about Amurrica.

"Call 911! Patty has a copy of A People's History of the United States!"

We have met the enemy and it is the truth.  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 11:16:30 AM
I'm watching the 'Meet the UKIPpers' Documentary about the grass roots of the ukip movement.

It is ... bizarre.

Favourite moment so far: The UKIP Thannet councillor  goes on a long, long rant about how she's not racist except for one group of people - negros.

She doesn't know why she dislikes negros, she says, but she does. And in the 80s she worked to stop negros from getting 16+ sheltered accommodation in Thannet. She admits that she said she did this because she didn't think it'd be fair to have teenage negros in an all-white community, but the real reason was because she just doesn't like negros.

This isn't hidden camera. The crew is there openly and they all know what the purpose of the documentary is. That someone could think they'd be a good politician whilst being so stupid is amazing to me. And it did come across as stupidity rather than a calculated attempt to court the racist vote.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 26, 2015, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 11:16:30 AM
I'm watching the 'Meet the UKIPpers' Documentary about the grass roots of the ukip movement.

It is ... bizarre.

Favourite moment so far: The UKIP Thannet councillor  goes on a long, long rant about how she's not racist except for one group of people - negros.

She doesn't know why she dislikes negros, she says, but she does. And in the 80s she worked to stop negros from getting 16+ sheltered accommodation in Thannet. She admits that she said she did this because she didn't think it'd be fair to have teenage negros in an all-white community, but the real reason was because she just doesn't like negros.

This isn't hidden camera. The crew is there openly and they all know what the purpose of the documentary is. That someone could think they'd be a good politician whilst being so stupid is amazing to me. And it did come across as stupidity rather than a calculated attempt to court the racist vote.

They think their day has come.  In some regions, they're right.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 01:52:59 PM
The one thing that gives me hope is that there wasn't a single UKIP supporter or member of UKIP shown below the age of 50. Most were retired and had been for quite some time (so probably 65+).

She still didn't see anything wrong with what she said, though - her defence was 'well it is the truth; I didn't mean negro as a description to be demeaning, and I'd rather be honest about it'.

Which, just... yeah.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 26, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
Thanet's council, IIRC, also has the former National Front UKIPer too, who defends his former membership on the grounds of "I was never a member of the Gestapo".  No, just a member a group who idolise the Gestapo.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Yeah, he was the previous highlight.

"I was a member of the Conservative party for over 20 years and the National Front for just 14 months, why does everyone focus on that year?!"

That sure is a mystery, huh?  :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 26, 2015, 05:31:49 PM
That was almost like something from brass eye.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on February 26, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Yeah, he was the previous highlight.

"I was a member of the Conservative party for over 20 years and the National Front for just 14 months, why does everyone focus on that year?!"

That sure is a mystery, huh?  :lulz:

It's also fascinating, given that Farage has assured the public that former NF and BNP members are proscribed from UKIP.

Anonymous Tory bloggers have also been mentioning that former EDL or EDL sympathetic members have deleted their social networking accounts and joined the ranks.  Could just be Tory propaganda...but it has a certain ring of truth about it, too.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on February 26, 2015, 10:31:51 PM
That came up in the documentary - apparently he is exempt because he was nominated for MP before the rule came into effect and it wasn't considered fair to employ it retroactively.

He also said he had offered to stand down and resign from the party if it was felt his presence would be a distraction but Nigel said no and that they'd stand by him.

I think they walk this tightrope to catch as many far-right NF and BNP voters as they can whilst leaving enough wiggle room that more 'respectable' tories can convince themselves it is all a left-wing smear campaign. There was a massive victim complex from the people in the documentary which really just had me going 'yes, the whole world IS picking on you. You are odious, vile scumbags!'
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on March 20, 2015, 08:19:33 AM
Sometimes I forget why I watch Question Time, then someone says something so stupid it makes me angry and I remember why.

Apparently an 'average family' spends more on taxes than it does on food, shelter and energy... and this is an argument for tax cuts.

But surely, this is a good thing! First off, I'd love to know how the figure is calculated and whether VAT paid on takeaway food is included as tax, and what an 'average family' is taken to be in this context... but tax is taken as a proportion of income! Surely you want the average family to be paying more in tax than they do in the bare essentials of living, because if they weren't, that'd mean the bare essentials would be taking up a very large chunk of their pay! You want food, energy and housing to cost as little as possible, right?

Incidentally, this is not at all my experience. Admittedly I live in a very high-cost part of Britain, but the cheapest rent I've found is £545/month. Combined with a food bill of £100/month and gas/water/electric of £145/month, I'd be spending £790/month. I pay £93 Tax and £76 National Insurance each month. Admittedly, I'm quite far below the 'average wage', but I earn above the minimum wage. I yearn for the day I pay more in tax than I do in basic living expenses.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 20, 2015, 12:57:51 PM
Wouldn't a more sensible measure of average "wealth" be what percentage of the household income is left after compulsory spending (food, rent, taxes, etc)? If you're shunting some of the cost of, say, healthcare over on the "tax" side instead of the "spending" side, the money is being used either way.

Of course that wouldn't create a THE TAXES ARE TOO DAMN HIGH frenzy and we can't have that, nevermind.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Demolition Squid on March 20, 2015, 01:01:29 PM
That's what I was thinking.

She wasn't talking at all about wealth - in fact, she didn't back up or explain her figures at all, and the panel let her off which drove me mad - she just said 'the average family spends £1000 more a year on taxes than food, shelter and energy - can you imagine that?! We need to bring taxes down!'

And I thought 'Yes, I can imagine that - I dream about it, in fact, because I earn so little my tax payments are pathetically tiny!'
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on March 21, 2015, 09:21:33 PM
Being below average sucks. At this point, I'd be happy just being median. :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on September 24, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
Some goofball OathKeeper is threatening to round up an armed posse and "citizens arrest" a U.S. senator for voting in favor of the Iran deal.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/23/activist-vows-to-arrest-democratic-lawmaker-under-article-3-section-3-of-the-constitution/

Is this going to be the one where The Tree of Libertytm FINALLY gets watered with the blood of these dipshits?
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Don Coyote on September 24, 2015, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 24, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
Some goofball OathKeeper is threatening to round up an armed posse and "citizens arrest" a U.S. senator for voting in favor of the Iran deal.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/23/activist-vows-to-arrest-democratic-lawmaker-under-article-3-section-3-of-the-constitution/

Is this going to be the one where The Tree of Libertytm FINALLY gets watered with the blood of these dipshits?

If it comes down to it, he'll probably get a breakfast at BK.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on September 24, 2015, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on September 24, 2015, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 24, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
Some goofball OathKeeper is threatening to round up an armed posse and "citizens arrest" a U.S. senator for voting in favor of the Iran deal.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/23/activist-vows-to-arrest-democratic-lawmaker-under-article-3-section-3-of-the-constitution/

Is this going to be the one where The Tree of Libertytm FINALLY gets watered with the blood of these dipshits?

If it comes down to it, he'll probably get a breakfast at BK.

Seems like the "Hi, we're coming to kidnap you. We're bringing our guns and we're not afraid to use them." letter would be enough for that.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 02, 2019, 01:52:06 AM
That doesn't sound very diplomatic.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on May 04, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
http://deadstate.org/trumps-personal-pastor-expels-demons-from-the-white-house-on-national-day-of-prayer

QuoteDuring an event at the White House commemorating the National Day of Prayer, representatives of different faiths took the podium and showered President Trump with accolades — as well as God.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 18, 2019, 01:36:23 AM
Had a moment on FB today.

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60338598_2348501725430240_6516672565899952128_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=0a550a37c05bdd195daf66ab6a3870cd&oe=5D671882)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Telarus on May 18, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on May 19, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
Screaming, angry tribes of barbarians attempt to invade New Zealand, drown, film at 11.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 03, 2019, 01:20:27 AM
https://www.c-span.org/amp/video/?c4675044&c4675044%2Fdni-official-refuses-senator-graham-conversations-foreign-leaders-monitored

Lindsay Graham asks intelligence officials if his Russian communications were monitored. Starts by asking a hypothetical but goes into his own request.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on June 13, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
Knoxville police officer/pastor says LGBTQ people should be arrested and executed in sermon at his church.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2019/06/12/knox-county-detective-calls-execution-lgbtq-people/1419137001/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Johnny on June 13, 2019, 08:33:39 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 13, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
Knoxville police officer/pastor says LGBTQ people should be arrested and executed in sermon at his church.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2019/06/12/knox-county-detective-calls-execution-lgbtq-people/1419137001/

Dont worry, he got "punished" by a buyout  :)

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/ (https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/)
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on June 14, 2019, 06:56:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on June 13, 2019, 08:33:39 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 13, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
Knoxville police officer/pastor says LGBTQ people should be arrested and executed in sermon at his church.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2019/06/12/knox-county-detective-calls-execution-lgbtq-people/1419137001/

Dont worry, he got "punished" by a buyout  :)

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/ (https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/)

I think he actually took the buyout before he started spewing his genocide bullshit.

Every case he's ever been involved with, and especially every conviction that was even slightly influenced by his testimony needs to be re-examined, and probably re-tried.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on June 19, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Update: He and his church have been banned from a Cracker Barrel.

https://www.dnj.com/story/news/2019/06/19/anti-lgbtq-detective-grayson-fritts-not-welcome-cracker-barrel-tennessee/1497351001/?fbclid=IwAR1xuAxgFuOWN6O0H7PorbeH7IXZe1P_d6BkAWACgQAumiGs5Q_sjJnQnUk

People like this can't live without Cracker Barrel. They'll have to sneak in wearing fake beards, or die of starvation.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2019, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 19, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Update: He and his church have been banned from a Cracker Barrel.

https://www.dnj.com/story/news/2019/06/19/anti-lgbtq-detective-grayson-fritts-not-welcome-cracker-barrel-tennessee/1497351001/?fbclid=IwAR1xuAxgFuOWN6O0H7PorbeH7IXZe1P_d6BkAWACgQAumiGs5Q_sjJnQnUk

People like this can't live without Cracker Barrel. They'll have to sneak in wearing fake beards, or die of starvation.

All he has left now is waffle house.   :sad:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on June 20, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2019, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 19, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Update: He and his church have been banned from a Cracker Barrel.

https://www.dnj.com/story/news/2019/06/19/anti-lgbtq-detective-grayson-fritts-not-welcome-cracker-barrel-tennessee/1497351001/?fbclid=IwAR1xuAxgFuOWN6O0H7PorbeH7IXZe1P_d6BkAWACgQAumiGs5Q_sjJnQnUk

People like this can't live without Cracker Barrel. They'll have to sneak in wearing fake beards, or die of starvation.

All he has left now is waffle house.   :sad:

Not even a Po Folks! :crankey:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 20, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2019, 01:46:15 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 19, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Update: He and his church have been banned from a Cracker Barrel.

https://www.dnj.com/story/news/2019/06/19/anti-lgbtq-detective-grayson-fritts-not-welcome-cracker-barrel-tennessee/1497351001/?fbclid=IwAR1xuAxgFuOWN6O0H7PorbeH7IXZe1P_d6BkAWACgQAumiGs5Q_sjJnQnUk

People like this can't live without Cracker Barrel. They'll have to sneak in wearing fake beards, or die of starvation.

All he has left now is waffle house.   :sad:

Not even a Po Folks! :crankey:

And Waffle's gonna kick his pasty ass.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 13, 2019, 01:17:36 AM
MIRIAM ADELSON: A time of miracles

As per the article:

'By rights, Trump should enjoy sweeping support among U.S. Jews, just as he does among Israelis. That this has not been the case (so far — the 2020 election still beckons) is an oddity that will long be pondered by historians. Scholars of the Bible will no doubt note the heroes, sages and prophets of antiquity who were similarly spurned by the very people they came to raise up.

Would it be too much to pray for a day when the Bible gets a "Book of Trump," much like it has a "Book of Esther" celebrating the deliverance of the Jews from ancient Persia?

Until that is decided, let us, at least, sit back and marvel at this time of miracles for Israel, for the United States, and for the whole world.'

Here's the link: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/miriam-adelson-a-time-of-miracles-1705255/

I was initially appalled by the idea of a "Book of Trump." But, after further consideration, this has some real possibilities. For instance, I think it would be really Yuge if the book were written and dedicated to Mrs. Adelson.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 13, 2019, 01:17:36 AM
MIRIAM ADELSON: A time of miracles

As per the article:

'By rights, Trump should enjoy sweeping support among U.S. Jews, just as he does among Israelis. That this has not been the case (so far — the 2020 election still beckons) is an oddity that will long be pondered by historians. Scholars of the Bible will no doubt note the heroes, sages and prophets of antiquity who were similarly spurned by the very people they came to raise up.

Would it be too much to pray for a day when the Bible gets a "Book of Trump," much like it has a "Book of Esther" celebrating the deliverance of the Jews from ancient Persia?

Until that is decided, let us, at least, sit back and marvel at this time of miracles for Israel, for the United States, and for the whole world.'

Here's the link: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/miriam-adelson-a-time-of-miracles-1705255/

I was initially appalled by the idea of a "Book of Trump." But, after further consideration, this has some real possibilities. For instance, I think it would be really Yuge if the book were written and dedicated to Mrs. Adelson.

I feel the urge to write this thing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 13, 2019, 06:22:52 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2019, 05:13:36 AM
I feel the urge to write this thing.

My first impulse was to post the article on the "Project Board." But, I doubted there would be much interest, and even less participation. So, I was also thinking about taking it on myself, as I have a major commitment next week, but a lot of enforced downtime for several weeks after that.

If you're serious about taking it on solo, by all means have at it. On the other hand, if you're interested in a collaboration, simply move these posts down to the "Project Board." It's your call.

Anyway, on first pass, it appears that utilizing the "Book of Esther" as a template is a natural starting point.  Substituting the corruption and debauchery at Mar-a-Lago for the goings on in Ahasuerus's palace is a natural. And, of course, the story would de-evolve from there.

The "Book of Trump" is begging to be written by someone.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 25, 2019, 04:39:00 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/transcript-of-telephone-call-between-kellyanne-conway-and-caitlin-yilek

QuoteThis is a transcript of the telephone conversation between Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president of the United States, and Caitlin Yilek, breaking news reporter at the Washington Examiner. The conversation took place after Yilek returned a phone call from Tom Joannou, special assistant to the president and special assistant to the senior counselor.

QuoteConway: Um, yes, so, always, right, exactly. You're really going places. Let me tell you something, from a powerful woman. Don't pull the crap where you're trying to undercut another woman based on who she's married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven't noticed. Not the other way around.

Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 25, 2019, 05:56:52 AM
More like "the book of DUMP"

OMG, there's a special kind of hell for whoever wants to put Trump in the bible. For those who succeed only ultra-super-mega-Hell will do.

EDIT: You'll be the pineapple that goes up Hitler's anus.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 25, 2019, 07:32:46 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 25, 2019, 04:39:00 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/transcript-of-telephone-call-between-kellyanne-conway-and-caitlin-yilek

QuoteThis is a transcript of the telephone conversation between Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president of the United States, and Caitlin Yilek, breaking news reporter at the Washington Examiner. The conversation took place after Yilek returned a phone call from Tom Joannou, special assistant to the president and special assistant to the senior counselor.

QuoteConway: Um, yes, so, always, right, exactly. You're really going places. Let me tell you something, from a powerful woman. Don't pull the crap where you're trying to undercut another woman based on who she's married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven't noticed. Not the other way around.

TBH its a venomous and petty vendetta at this point  :lulz:

Or am i missing something? Even tho I did enjoy the piece, it seems something more of celebrity tabloids rather than anything politically relevant... but then again world politics has fused together with celebrity gossip so i dont even fucking know anymore.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2019, 08:07:43 AM
It is actually somewhat relevant.

George Conway is a highly respected and well known New York litigator, who has made a number of comments critical of and questioning the legality of Trump's actions.

While there are many respected litigators in New York, he is considered amongst the higher tiers of those working in the city and it is very possible that he could be tapped by the SNYD should their investigations come into an area where he has expertise. However, since his wife, Kellyanne Conway, works for the President, there is a potential conflict of interest there. But then he's made his own position very clear so...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on October 25, 2019, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on October 25, 2019, 07:32:46 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 25, 2019, 04:39:00 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/transcript-of-telephone-call-between-kellyanne-conway-and-caitlin-yilek

QuoteThis is a transcript of the telephone conversation between Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president of the United States, and Caitlin Yilek, breaking news reporter at the Washington Examiner. The conversation took place after Yilek returned a phone call from Tom Joannou, special assistant to the president and special assistant to the senior counselor.

QuoteConway: Um, yes, so, always, right, exactly. You're really going places. Let me tell you something, from a powerful woman. Don't pull the crap where you're trying to undercut another woman based on who she's married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven't noticed. Not the other way around.

TBH its a venomous and petty vendetta at this point  :lulz:

Or am i missing something? Even tho I did enjoy the piece, it seems something more of celebrity tabloids rather than anything politically relevant... but then again world politics has fused together with celebrity gossip so i dont even fucking know anymore.

It all started with "The Real World" on MTV back in the 1990's. Those fuckers invented modern-day "reality television". From there, it took over all of cable, and then the federal government of the United States, and, thusly, the world.

My final hope is that, in the future, alien exoanthropologists are able to piece together this unfortunate chain of events.

(buys another gun)

If only "The Surreal Life" had been chosen as the instrument of our destruction, how much sweeter our demise could have been...
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 26, 2019, 04:05:55 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2019, 08:07:43 AM
It is actually somewhat relevant.

George Conway is a highly respected and well known New York litigator, who has made a number of comments critical of and questioning the legality of Trump's actions.

While there are many respected litigators in New York, he is considered amongst the higher tiers of those working in the city and it is very possible that he could be tapped by the SNYD should their investigations come into an area where he has expertise. However, since his wife, Kellyanne Conway, works for the President, there is a potential conflict of interest there. But then he's made his own position very clear so...

That's an interesting take...The one I've heard from Andrew C Laufer, is that the Conways are pulling a grift not unlike the Carville/Matalin ruse. Or, even more simply, the out for KAC when shit starts raining down on her.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on October 26, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
It could be the case. But George Conway at least is respected by his peers and has a very successful litigation practice, he's been ranked both by Chambers and Legal 500 for a number of years. In New York no less, a 4 rank in NYC is like a 2 anywhere else due to the legal importance of the city. I'd imagine he's more interested in that than in politics per se.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 26, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 26, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
It could be the case. But George Conway at least is respected by his peers and has a very successful litigation practice, he's been ranked both by Chambers and Legal 500 for a number of years. In New York no less, a 4 rank in NYC is like a 2 anywhere else due to the legal importance of the city. I'd imagine he's more interested in that than in politics per se.

I knew he was big time, but i didn't realize how big time. His membership in the Federalist Society (let alone Kelly-anne and her The Family ties) is what leads me to raise an eyebrow everytime he tweets.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 01, 2019, 03:59:46 PM
https://www.wjhl.com/news/regional/tennessee/tennessee-lawmaker-calls-for-removal-of-higher-education-to-cut-off-liberal-breeding-ground/
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: altered on December 01, 2019, 04:00:55 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Ten years from now: "why don't any success stories come out of TN"
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on December 01, 2019, 08:10:53 PM
It's interesting that they're the only ones I've ever seen call for this kind of thing.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 05, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 01, 2019, 03:59:46 PM
https://www.wjhl.com/news/regional/tennessee/tennessee-lawmaker-calls-for-removal-of-higher-education-to-cut-off-liberal-breeding-ground/

"Breeding ground."
They always blame things they don't like on education and other people fucking.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: MMIX on December 05, 2019, 04:09:40 PM
Quote from: kiss my axe on December 05, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 01, 2019, 03:59:46 PM
https://www.wjhl.com/news/regional/tennessee/tennessee-lawmaker-calls-for-removal-of-higher-education-to-cut-off-liberal-breeding-ground/

"Breeding ground."
They always blame things they don't like on education and other people fucking.

Well they are probably right, to be honest . . .
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2019, 02:59:19 PM
https://apnews.com/667b2a7a9ed23169f08e657704956398

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Bowing to pressure from the White House, a Republican senator blocked a resolution Thursday that would recognize the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks a century ago as genocide.

North Dakota Sen. Kevin Cramer said he thwarted the measure after White House officials called the timing inappropriate. President Donald Trump just returned from a NATO summit in London, where Turkey's role in the mass killing was discussed by NATO leaders. Turkey is a NATO member.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Juana on December 18, 2019, 01:07:24 AM
Aaaand he's probably lost the Armenian vote here.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: altered on January 01, 2020, 11:40:13 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-crime-is-only-a-step-away-from-thoughtcrime-11577905525

Presented without comment.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 02, 2020, 02:13:01 AM
Quote from: altered on January 01, 2020, 11:40:13 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-crime-is-only-a-step-away-from-thoughtcrime-11577905525

Presented without comment.

Won't let me read past the first 3 sentences, but it's not like we don't already have a concept of intent incorporated into our laws. I guess "terrorism" and "pre-meditation" are also thoughtcrime. :fap:
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
Funny, it let me read the whole thing earlier.

Basic idea is that we are being too mean to people who burn Pride flags (THAT DON'T BELONG TO THEM) by making that activity a felony rather than a misdemeanor when intended to make LGBT people feel unwelcome and despised. This is debatable, though I know where I fall here I can see a possible thoughtful argument against it that I'd not be able to easily shut down. Point being, this is our STARTING POINT. Something that rather than being immediately laughable is "only" harder to call stupid on reflex alone.

Then we are ALSO being too mean to literal murderers who gun down Jewish people because, uh, presumably they are going to jail anyway so it doesn't matter as a deterrent? That's. The actual, literal argument offered.

Also, the picture at the top combined with that title says it all anyway.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2020, 03:08:09 AM
Quote from: altered on January 01, 2020, 11:40:13 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hate-crime-is-only-a-step-away-from-thoughtcrime-11577905525

Presented without comment.

It amazes me how many people are willing to step up and defend the right to be a fucking Nazi swine.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: altered on January 02, 2020, 03:19:48 AM
It doesn't surprise me. They just have different priorities, you see.

My priorities are survival, helping others survive, making people I like happy, and doing, seeing and being cool shit.

Theirs is to be so evil that ten years ago people said they weren't good villains and they took all the moral complexity out of media by being too evil to live.

It's weird but hey, if that's what they want, I'll be happy to help destroy their lives.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2020, 08:43:48 AM
Sometimes the WSJ will gate articles once they start generating clicks.

Besides, there's a very easy way to make hate crimes not be "thought crimes": do what every other country does and add in hate as a sentencing factor on already existing crimes.

Wow. Hard work, right there. You beat someone up, you're going to jail. You provably beat someone for being Jewish, by implication trying to terrorize other Jews, you get extra time,  Of course, the WSJ know this, they're just counting on bringing out the 1984 buzzword list ("censorship", "thoughtcrime") to ensure their readers don't.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 03, 2020, 11:09:53 PM
WSJ needs Popper's Paradox.
Upside the head.
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: Bruno on January 20, 2020, 06:29:40 AM
Obviously fake "Antifa Propaganda" is popping up about the gun rally in Virginia tomorrow.

In other realities: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/akwv4k/why-antifa-is-siding-with-thousands-of-pro-gun-conservatives-in-virginia
Title: Re: "Stupid wingnut says something stupid" thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 20, 2020, 09:55:15 AM
That Cicero quote could be about Trump directly.