The Compiled Rugged Individualist Conversation

[hooplala]

Oh, sorry.  I must have mixed you up with a rugged individualist who was proposing the Free Market as a desirable choice earlier on this page. 

My mistake.

I couldn't possibly argue that either system would be desirable for anyone but myself.

What's desirable for me has nothing to do with you or anyone else. I want the system to be balanced (Close to what we have now, minus inherently broken legislation that has been implemented) between Free-market and Socialism, as does anyone else who's looked at economic theory in the past 100 years. But that's my opinion, and my opinion doesn't mean shit. I'm not a Libertarian, I'm just not agreeing to follow all restrictions or procedures because some of them aren't in my best interest (Because some of them are broken).

Fair enough.  However, several of your individual opinions, which don't make you a Libertarian, are shared by the Cato Institute.  So, hopefully you'll understand my confusion.

I can see the appeal of such opinions... but ultimately they are rather utopian.

[POFP]

Fair enough.  However, several of your individual opinions, which don't make you a Libertarian, are shared by the Cato Institute.  So, hopefully you'll understand my confusion.

I can see the appeal of such opinions... but ultimately they are rather utopian.

And that's where our fundamental differences in perception arise. I don't want you to agree with me, I just want you to understand my perspective. What you do with my perspective now that you've understood it, has nothing to do with me. Now that I've achieved my goal of this discussion, I am happy.

[hooplala]

Fair enough.  However, several of your individual opinions, which don't make you a Libertarian, are shared by the Cato Institute.  So, hopefully you'll understand my confusion.

I can see the appeal of such opinions... but ultimately they are rather utopian.

And that's where our fundamental differences in perception arise. I don't want you to agree with me, I just want you to understand my perspective. What you do with my perspective now that you've understood it, has nothing to do with me. Now that I've achieved my goal of this discussion, I am happy.

Hoo boy.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You want immunity from consequences? Please explain what you mean by that, and how such immunity would facilitate freedom for anyone else but yourself?

[hooplala]

You want immunity from consequences? Please explain what you mean by that, and how such immunity would facilitate freedom for anyone else but yourself?

He doesn't seem all that concerned about how his actions impact others. 

[LMNO]

There's a strong core of callous solipsism going on in him, based purely upon his writing in this thread.

[hooplala]

There's a strong core of callous solipsism going on in him, based purely upon his writing in this thread.

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie.

[POFP]

He doesn't seem all that concerned about how his actions impact others.

Somewhat accurate, although, that is something I have to think about.

You want immunity from consequences? Please explain what you mean by that, and how such immunity would facilitate freedom for anyone else but yourself?

Immunity from consequences, as I see it, can come in a few forms. Either decisions and actions are ignored completely by everything else in existence (I don't like this idea), or the consequences of decisions or actions don't affect future action (Everything is action, NOT reaction). That, as I see it, is separation from predisposition, and as a result, a separation from environmental/societal influences.

There's a strong core of callous solipsism going on in him, based purely upon his writing in this thread.

Yes. These are ideas I am throwing around in my head, and as Paes stated, I "doth assert too boldly." - Story of my fuckin life.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

or the consequences of decisions or actions don't affect future action (Everything is action, NOT reaction).

This is bad signal.

[POFP]

This is bad signal.

Agreed. Sounds robotic, don't you think? I don't like it much, anymore.

[minuspace]

I may just be calling this one in, regardless it seems like our American Rugged Individualism is not yet dead.  Forget those lost behind the trace of the image that represents overcoming.  The point of ARI is to outstrip the boundaries of will and intent - to reconnect with the source that ignites thought and becomes invulnerability itself.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I may just be calling this one in, regardless it seems like our American Rugged Individualism is not yet dead.  Forget those lost behind the trace of the image that represents overcoming.  The point of ARI is to outstrip the boundaries of will and intent - to reconnect with the source that ignites thought and becomes invulnerability itself.

It was never fucking alive.  And your post is 90% incoherent.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

I may just be calling this one in, regardless it seems like our American Rugged Individualism is not yet dead.  Forget those lost behind the trace of the image that represents overcoming.  The point of ARI is to outstrip the boundaries of will and intent - to reconnect with the source that ignites thought and becomes invulnerability itself.

Totes just calling it in. On a rotary, no less.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I may just be calling this one in, regardless it seems like our American Rugged Individualism is not yet dead.  Forget those lost behind the trace of the image that represents overcoming.  The point of ARI is to outstrip the boundaries of will and intent - to reconnect with the source that ignites thought and becomes invulnerability itself.

What an interesting level of completely not understanding the concept. Have you tried reading the thread?

[minuspace]

I may just be calling this one in, regardless it seems like our American Rugged Individualism is not yet dead.  Forget those lost behind the trace of the image that represents overcoming.  The point of ARI is to outstrip the boundaries of will and intent - to reconnect with the source that ignites thought and becomes invulnerability itself.

What an interesting level of completely not understanding the concept. Have you tried reading the thread?

A little.  I also edited a newspaper column with the same title.  People seem to understand the trappings that may result from individualism, rugged or otherwise, I just wanted to remind myself what I think the point was before it's corruption.