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« on: March 01, 2008, 04:48:38 pm »
[was going to post, but then 000 said exactly what I was going to]

Apple Talk / Re: Because you all asked for it...
« on: February 20, 2008, 08:47:18 pm »
I just realized I have absolutely no recent pics of me on my comp, nor have I ever posted any on the internet.
Then again, I suppose keeping the lecherous hordes of internet pervs away from pics of me is for the best.

Principia Discussion / Re: Indie Party Tunes
« on: February 19, 2008, 10:02:05 pm »
Sunn O)))
Glenn Branca
Teenage Jesus & The Jerks

Principia Discussion / Re: It was a sociological experiment!
« on: February 16, 2008, 10:48:43 pm »
No other school shootings have resulted in government crackdowns under Bush.

Institutional crackdowns from schools and colleges is another matter entirely.  I don't know if the colleges have done anything since Virginia Tech, but I know schools frequently make use of body searches, expulsions and suspensions in the weeks after school shootings, often with little more than personal prejudice at work (since the FBI profile for a school shooter is "white, male, access to firearms" and so functionally useless)

From my experience, there's not any sudden crackdowns so much as an increasingly paranoid environment. It's not so much a matter of "allright, we're gonna have to take somebody down" so much as an increase in reactivity to anything. For example, when I was in 6th grade (2003), some 8th grade kid decided to let off a little carbonic acid + tinfoil + two liter bomb in the hallway. For the next 2-3 hours, nobody was allowed outside of their classroom, and the school was quickly swarmed with police and whoever does cleanup for these things. The next day, it was announced that a $50 reward would go to whoever gave the name of the kid who did it, and within a couple weeks of nonstop chatter, he was caught and expelled. Apparently the cracking down on the high schoolers was way worse (and there were a few fake bomb threats that year called from the high school.)
Looking at the current scene at my school, things could get really, really out of hand if ANYTHING were to happen here or within this general area. I just hope nothing does.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
« on: February 16, 2008, 06:23:42 am »
Hm, only $12.32 for 16 oz. of it. I'm tempted to experiment with it.

Or Kill Me / Re: This Shit is Crazy Yo
« on: February 15, 2008, 02:43:18 am »

OTC = Over The Counter [Drug]

it's what american highschool kids get high off

Pfft! Only r-tards get high off of OTCs. That's so 2005. These days we just look around in the hardware store for the word "toxic" or "solvent" and get our huff on.

Bring and Brag / Re: Whoring mah mix(es) ITT
« on: February 15, 2008, 01:29:38 am »
that sounds like a plan. tomorrow = when? cause over here valentine's already over.

Was today from 10-11GMT. Would've been the usual 10-12, but my internet connection was acting screwed up, so there were constant buffer issues.

Bring and Brag / Re: Whoring mah mix(es) ITT
« on: February 14, 2008, 12:41:34 am »
In the interests of further whoring, I'm playing a special "I'm not getting any today, so fuck Valentine's Day" set tomorrow on, consisting of gabber, dark dnb, and any breakcore I feel the need to throw in.

And I has a new mix, looking at the spectrum of dnb from oldschool techstep to almost gabber tearouts.

Download Here


1. T Power - 33rd Paralell
2. Freq Nasty - Tha Shadow
3. DJ Trace - The Mutant Revisited
4. Ed Rush - Check Me Out
5. Dillinja - Unexplored Terrain
6. Dylan - Witchcraft
7. Ed Rush - Funktion (Remix)
8. Loxy - Headz Roll
9. The Redeemer - Hardcore Owes Us Money
10. Black Sun Empire feat. Technical Itch - B Negative
11. Prolix - Took My Love
12. Calyx - Erased from Existance
13. Rufige Kru - Rhythm Killa
14. Stakka - Set Trippin
15. Kaos, Karl K, & Jae Kennedy - Xanadu
16. Kaos, Karl K, & Jae Kennedy - Moonraker
17. SPL - Ghost Kill
18. Counterstrike & Genr8 - Grey Matter
19. Gein - Hate
20. Arsenic - Aneurysm

Length: 56:35
192kps mp3

But isn't a change in perceptions still a change? 

By changing the input, you change that person. Our experiences, as we perceive them, define at least some of our personality. Wouldn't changing a person's environment change their personality, at least a little? That's as much of a change in perception as altering their perception of their current environment, or at least can be.

Changing perceptions seems to me like... changing perceptions, not changing who we are.

I'll go back to Leary here. Let's say that we imprinted Low on the first circuit (fight/flee) as a child. No matter what perceptions we change... what new ideas we think about. We don't change that basic program. We might learn to compensate for it in some manner, but the basic YOU would still have the initial response to run when faced with danger.

Now, if you take up a martial art, or live through a horrific event, there may be a metaprogramming change to that circuit and fundamentally modify the homunculus inside you. However, thats not gonna happen by breaking a few bars... it takes a lot more than that, I think.

To wrap this back around to the OP, st verbatim is talking about a preference shift in what pron turns him on, that's not a change to who he is necessarily... now, if we say that st. verbatim used to only enjoy rape and bondage pics, and thought that lap dances were always better when the stripper was crying... then, after experiencing life with this particular female, only liked porn where the two appears as partners. I would say that we have an argument for actual change to the person, particularly to the fourth circuit metaphor. I would also guess that the experience was something extreme in one way or another to evoke such a change (and that it was the physical experiences, not just expanding perceptions that caused the change).

If however, his criteria for good porn was "nice ass and nice tits" and now they take second place to "woman is enjoying herself"... he's still him, but he's got a bit of a broader (no pun intended) perspective.

Does that seem sensible?

It's totally sensible, but this goes back to the question of what defines "you". IMO, there isn't really a "core" of being that is "you", so as I perceive it, to change something even as miniscule as taste in porn is to change at least part of that person's personality. It seems like your concept of "you" is based around the basic traits which inform nearly all of a person's actions, and from that sort of definition, breaking a bar is less likely to alter a person.

if if the Bars were really YOU, then we couldn't change them could we?

Are you saying we can't change ourselves?

I'm saying that it appears to me that:
1. We can change how we perceive ourselves and our environment.
2. Such a change in perception, coupled with experiences  can affect our behavior.

Changing some perceptions (changing some bars in the prison) doesn't necessarily modify who we are.... only the data we're currently considering at the time.

Like I said, I think this is an area where the metaphor feels kinda constraining.

For example, I used to identify myself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I eventually broke down those bars... but I was still me, even though I was considering new ideas, I'm still me, even though the me that is typing this, perceives things differently than I did before.

Maybe the problem here is that the OP and most of our discussions are still using the 'is' of identity.

So you think that you as the JW is exactly the same you as you, not the JW?  No difference at all?

Yes, there's a very big difference in the data I perceive. Experiences that I have had, have further modified the aspects of reality I focus on, and even what I consider reality to be... but the little homunculus that looks out of my eyes is still the same little homunculus. He has a much nicer view though.

Do we change who the horse is, if we take off his blinders? Do we change who the person is, if we make them wear sunglasses? Or are we just changing the input stream between their homunculus and reality?

By changing the input, you change that person. Our experiences, as we perceive them, define at least some of our personality. Wouldn't changing a person's environment change their personality, at least a little? That's as much of a change in perception as altering their perception of their current environment, or at least can be.

Bharlion is Bharlion.

Sorry to crush any conspiracy theories you all had going there.

Wasn't serious. Just pointing out that brevity isn't exactly a strong point of his.

Bharlion: Hugh in disguise?

Experts are reporting concentrations of "tl,dr" that are strikingly similar.
More coverage as story develops.

Principia Discussion / Re: kill aini
« on: February 13, 2008, 06:15:15 pm »
Childhood?  Fuck am I really that old?

Naw, you're not that old, I'm just that young.  :mrgreen:

Principia Discussion / Re: kill aini
« on: February 13, 2008, 03:25:10 am »
Not sure if it was the movie but it is from the Jetsons. 

Fun Fact:  The Violent Femmes did a cover of that song on the Saturday Morning Cartoons album. 

That was them? Wow, I think that made the huge portion of my childhood I listened to that album awesomer.

Bring and Brag / Re: Random Acts Magic
« on: February 05, 2008, 01:06:02 am »
In the name of all holy and good, please tell me you're joking. If not, you bring general MIDI composition to a low not seen since the glory days of Geocities.

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