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Title: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on May 19, 2007, 08:38:07 AM
I was surfing an astrology article about the new dwarf planet Eris somewhere @ www.karmaastrology.com ::headshots several zodiac killers before they can even think about sporking up teh stars:: and found out that Eris is pronounced "EE-RIS".
And all this time I was pronouncing it "ARSE"
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2007, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: Benaclypse on May 19, 2007, 08:38:07 AM
I was surfing an astrology article about the new dwarf planet Eris somewhere @ www.karmaastrology.com ::headshots several zodiac killers before they can even think about sporking up teh stars:: and found out that Eris is pronounced "EE-RIS".
And all this time I was pronouncing it "ARSE"

You're both wrong.

It's pronounced the same as "Heiress".

Yep.  Eris <---> Paris Hilton.

You heard it here first.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on May 19, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
http://www.pantheon.org/miscellaneous/pronunciations.html
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2007, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: Benaclypse on May 19, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
http://www.pantheon.org/miscellaneous/pronunciations.html

Who the fuck are you going to believe?  Some "dictionary", or The Good Reverend Roger, your spiritual advisor?
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on May 20, 2007, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 20, 2007, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: Benaclypse on May 19, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
http://www.pantheon.org/miscellaneous/pronunciations.html

Who the fuck are you going to believe?  Some "dictionary", or The Good Reverend Roger, your spiritual advisor?
Er, I'll believe that it's pronounced Eris.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 20, 2007, 10:00:42 PM
is pronounced JIZZMONKEY
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Lies on May 20, 2007, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: mian tiao noodle on May 20, 2007, 10:00:42 PM
is pronounced JIZZMONKEY

This is the correct masturbating monkey.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on May 20, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
O.K. so its not actually crackin one off... Still a jizzmonkey, in some sense.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/PayneAlpha/monkey1.jpg)
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Lies on May 21, 2007, 02:49:04 AM
dude... ugh... seriously.
Please to not be putting photos of your parents on this board, I don't think they'd appreciate it any more then we do.
:lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on May 21, 2007, 02:56:38 AM
Meh, I'm just "bringin' the toolbox". It's a serious addiction of mine, I should check into a clinic or something.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 21, 2007, 06:18:57 AM
Quote from: Payne on May 21, 2007, 02:56:38 AM
Meh, I'm just "bringin' the toolbox".

:mittens:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cramulus on May 21, 2007, 03:08:19 PM
(http://www.womengamers.com/images/articles/dw/aeris.gif)

HAIL AERIS
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Triple Zero on May 21, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
slashfic that insert the steel rod all the way up that characters *****

coming in five four three ...


(btw what the fuck's up with those boots?)
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cramulus on May 21, 2007, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 21, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
(btw what the fuck's up with those boots?)

I've always wondered that. Pink dress + combat boots? I'm guessing that they tried to model her a bit sexier but the PS was like "OMG 2 MANY POLYGONS!"
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on May 21, 2007, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 21, 2007, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 21, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
(btw what the fuck's up with those boots?)

I've always wondered that. Pink dress + combat boots? I'm guessing that they tried to model her a bit sexier but the PS was like "OMG 2 MANY POLYGONS!"

Hey now, dress + boots can be very hot. Those bizarre shoulder pads on the other hand... I have no comment, only quizzical facial expression.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Discord on May 24, 2007, 01:18:28 PM
She needs those boots for ass kicking.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 24, 2007, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 21, 2007, 09:15:47 PM


Hey now, dress + boots can be very hot.

In Kentucky.   :lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on May 25, 2007, 12:30:44 AM
Dress and boots is SEX.

Scotsmen in kilts know this to be true.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on May 28, 2007, 11:39:59 PM
The day an ancient Greek shows up at my door is the day I will put some stock in how an ancient word is meant to be pronounced, until then I will continue to pronounce Eris as 'nixon's festering corpse'.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: LMNO on May 29, 2007, 01:18:29 PM
Hoops, I believe, is riding the correct motorcycle:

(http://www.carstickers.com/prodimages/499.gif)
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on May 31, 2007, 03:47:29 AM
Boffo!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 01, 2007, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2007, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: Benaclypse on May 19, 2007, 08:38:07 AM
I was surfing an astrology article about the new dwarf planet Eris somewhere @ www.karmaastrology.com ::headshots several zodiac killers before they can even think about sporking up teh stars:: and found out that Eris is pronounced "EE-RIS".
And all this time I was pronouncing it "ARSE"

You're both wrong.

It's pronounced the same as "Heiress".

Yep.  Eris <---> Paris Hilton.

You heard it here first.

as per RAW

it's pronounced "Air Reese"

or something...

~Angel
Likes it RAWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: bubz_the_troll on June 02, 2007, 04:02:31 AM
Eris is pronounced Discord.  Or Quonk if it's partly cloudy and 72 degrees.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on June 02, 2007, 08:33:16 PM
It's actually pronounced by typing it.  Like people actually TALK about this publicly. :roll:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Discord on June 04, 2007, 11:59:18 AM
Quote from: Mourning Star on June 01, 2007, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 19, 2007, 08:40:51 AM
Quote from: Benaclypse on May 19, 2007, 08:38:07 AM
I was surfing an astrology article about the new dwarf planet Eris somewhere @ www.karmaastrology.com ::headshots several zodiac killers before they can even think about sporking up teh stars:: and found out that Eris is pronounced "EE-RIS".
And all this time I was pronouncing it "ARSE"

You're both wrong.

It's pronounced the same as "Heiress".

Yep.  Eris <---> Paris Hilton.

You heard it here first.

as per RAW

it's pronounced "Air Reese"

or something...

~Angel
Likes it RAWWWWWWWWW


Thats how we pronounce it in german.
And we never had the discussion how to....

morons  :lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 01:05:33 PM
Quote from: Felix on June 02, 2007, 08:33:16 PM
It's actually pronounced by typing it.  Like people actually TALK about this publicly. :roll:


:mittens:
Title: Re: I pronounce it EH-RIS.
Post by: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 03:12:27 PM
You see the problems you get into if you don't use E-Prime!

You can't meaningfully say "it is pronounced this way" - only "I  pronounce it this way".

I don't even share RAW's Brooklyn accent, coming from the UK.  As we invented the language, and I speak 'received standard' English I figure I could tell you that I (at least) pronounce the 'e' as in pet, and the 'i' as in pit.  Both short vowels, just as it says in the Oxford English Dictionary.

I hate to appear eristic about it.    :evil:

If you believe that Eeristic nonsense because Merriam-Webster pronounces it that way (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/eristic) then I guess you live out there in the ex-colonies.  M-W pronounce water like warder (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/water), for Eris's sake!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 03:15:14 PM
Hey Mags,

We're all pretty much versed in E-Prime.  We just don't use it much, because it decreases the Lulz-flow, which deflaites the Lail.


And without Lail, no LOL.


But whatever.  Just wanted to give you a heads up about the pedantry.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 03:20:12 PM
I know how pedantic I can get - but if you don't like that I'll just pretend I am right and you are all wrong :roll:

It isn't pronounced ee-ris, but eh-ris....
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 03:26:11 PM
Heh.  I still like Felix's answer the best, though.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 03:54:32 PM
I concur with LMNO on concurring with Felix's answer.

Also concur on the matter of pedantry leading to sadfaces! (Says the girl who suffers from an acute case of pretentious :oops:)

Here is the problem with getting into dictionary pronounciations--dialects are pretty cool, at least from an observer/academic point of view. As soon as you limit acceptability or authority to some big external power (such as good ol' Merriam-Webster), you end up rejecting the validity of regional modifications. Language is a constantly evolving thing (linguistics is so freaking interesting). With all of our pronounciations, we would understand who/what/etc we were talking about, if we were to speak to each other. (Last time I heard someone say "Hail Eris!" for example, I did not worry about pronounciation, so much as the degree of exaggeration I intended to use while rolling my eyes.) It is the idea that we're communicating, not the specific sound. The evolution of language is part of what makes language so cool/interesting.

I don't know where I'm going with this. Except that Felix is right, and why do we even care about the correct pronounciation anyways? :p

-DC
Language nerd; needs to be stuck back in academia and prevented from going out into public
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
I just want to step in here and say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I'm not bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there are times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2007, 04:01:48 PM
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
I just want to step in here and say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I'm not bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there are times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO.

Exactly. There is a time and place for everything. Despite my love of observing linguistic trends, I would not recommend speaking in ebonics for a job interview selling Ferraris. Time and place.

Being trapped alone in the office today (again), I shall pass my time reading up on E-Prime so I can try to avoid accidentally spewing anything idiot.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

This is why they built scotland.  :lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on June 04, 2007, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
I just seem to want to step in here and seem to say that I use E-Prime quite often.

I seem not to be bashing E-Prime per se, I just wanted to point out that there seem to be times when it seems appropriate, and times when it doesn't. 

This was one of those latter times, IMO, seemingly.
Seems fixed.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

This is why they built scotland.  :lulz:

It needs to be raped, murdered, set on fire, and then gotten drunk via drinks served in skulls with umbrellas!

I heart Scotland all because of this forum! :D
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 04, 2007, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 04, 2007, 04:01:48 PM
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".

:mittens:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
Edit: Boring old fart quotes Monty Python Argument sketch and thinks he's funny..
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: That One Guy on June 04, 2007, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
I wish I'd never mentioned E'.  Unfortunately when I get online my default settings include sarcasm, cynicism, irony, etc - I'll remember to untick the boxes next time I try to speak up (sorry type up).

And pronunciation does seem to matter to people who talk and actually want to feel understood...

If you prefer the response "Huh?" every time you speak, then don't adapt. When I lived in the USA for 18 months I learned to change my vowel sounds so people would understand my 'English' accent...so I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

Sarcasm, cynicism, irony ... by gods a live one!  8)

I think all of us have to adapt our approaches in order to communicate with people that don't necessarily operate with the same approach/background/frame of reference that most of us here tend to use. Whether that's through vocabulary, pronunciation or even contextual nuances, the point of communicating is to exchange concepts and/or information between persons. Whatever it takes to make that happen is fair game as far as I'm concerned, even if it means drawing little pictograms in the dirt.

Everyone has their own little quirks when it comes to how they communicate, both verbally and textually. Many of us here are familiar with, value, and even use e-prime frequently (I prefer it myself). If it works for you to use that to feel your side of a conversation has been conveyed, then good! That's half the point. Admittedly the other half is "did the other person have my meaning conveyed effectively and did their ideas and concepts get conveyed effectively to me?" which is where the trick of adapting communication methods comes in to play.

And pronounce "Eris" like Throatwabbler Mangrove if you want. Just so long as everyone knows what you're attempting to convey, it'll be fine  :mrgreen:


Also, that's one of my all-time favorite sketches. It's always been a toss-up between that one, the Confuse-a-Cat sketch and the Job Interview sketch. Ah, python!
:lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Triple Zero on June 04, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 04, 2007, 04:01:48 PM
Eris is pronounced with a silent "bullshit".

more like a not-completely-silent muffled in a people-who-need-to-know-will-pick-it-up way, "bullshit":

e-*coughbullshithmzbcough*-ris
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on June 04, 2007, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 06:41:42 PMso I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

No.

It isn't.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on June 04, 2007, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Baron von Hoopla on June 04, 2007, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 06:41:42 PMso I will try to remember that (in the USA) it's pronounced Ee-Ris.

No.

It isn't.

Is too.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on June 04, 2007, 08:56:29 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on June 04, 2007, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

This is why they built scotland.  :lulz:

It needs to be raped, murdered, set on fire, and then gotten drunk via drinks served in skulls with umbrellas!

I heart Scotland all because of this forum! :D

Yes, but loving Scotland won't save you.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: Payne on June 04, 2007, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.

This is why they built scotland.  :lulz:

It needs to be raped, murdered, set on fire, and then gotten drunk via drinks served in skulls with umbrellas!

I heart Scotland all because of this forum! :D

Yes, but loving Scotland won't save you.

Actually I fully expect it will kill and/or damn me!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2007, 09:04:46 PM
I could tell you how to really pronounce it (I asked a friend who speaks Ancient Greek).

But I wont.

Because I'm mean.

And my demands have not been met.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Darth Cupcake on June 04, 2007, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 04, 2007, 09:04:46 PM
I could tell you how to really pronounce it (I asked a friend who speaks Ancient Greek).

But I wont.

Because I'm mean.

And my demands have not been met.

Are your demands, by any chance, "moar tentacles"?

-DC
Has wanted to learn Ancient Greek for a while; twitching to start grad school!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2007, 09:32:42 PM
My demands are well known to all, and shall not be repeated.

Also, I hear Ancient Greek is kinda dull.  It could just be my friend, she was never the most linguistically minded and only wanted to do the Classics for lack of anything else worthwhile, but from what I read of it, its kinda dry.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Bogus Magus on June 04, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 04, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
The english language is a piss poor, piece of shit way of communicating. It needs to be raped, murdered and set on fire before it's any use to anybody.
Entonces, si usted prefiere hay dos verbos que significan 'to be' en espa?±ol - "Estar" y "Ser"

¬øintente utilizar espa?±ol en lugar de otro, quiz?°?

¬øEspa?±ol-prime?

Ou pr?©f?©rez-vous le fran?ßais ?



Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on June 04, 2007, 11:05:18 PM
No, it doesn't.

Because the scots haven't been able to decently mangle it yet.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 04, 2007, 11:38:13 PM
I was honestly just bullshitting about the way RAW said it...

personally I pronounce it aloud as EhRiss

and I pronounce it online as *click clickyclick click*


Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on June 04, 2007, 11:43:38 PM
He actually did pronounce it kind of fucked up, though . . . I can't remember how now, but it was different from my pronunciation, which is remarkably mundane (air-iss) - you can hear it in the Maybe Logic movie . . . it was either EE-ris or Air-ees, but I can't remember which.

Either way, it made me throw my army-boot at the tv.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Minja on June 07, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
Hi, I'm new around here.  Been reading for a day or so.  I suppose now that I'm not lurking anymore I should go post on that introductions thread or something.

Actually, Mourning Star, you may have been just bullshitting about how RAW pronounced Eris, but you were spot on - he did say Air-Reese, basically.  He also pronounced PD "Prinkipia Discordia."  Heard it with me own ears, I did...

But I still say "air-is" and "Prinsipia"... I loved that old man Papa Bob, but I liked my pronunciations better... and besides, I got the impression he really didn't like people thinking or saying things just cuz he did... I remember him telling me once, with a rather serious look on his face, "one should remember that 'fan' is short for 'fanatic.'"
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Hey there.

Doesn't RAW tend to slur his words anyway, because of some illness or something?

I prounounce it Aer-is.  I'm pretty certain thats the correct Greek way, though I may have to check again.  Its been a while since I did that stuff.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cramulus on June 07, 2007, 09:02:10 PM
Hi Minja! Welcome aboard!

I'm curious - how did you know Bob? Are you one of the MLA folks?
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hunter s.durden on June 07, 2007, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Doesn't RAW tend to slur his words anyway, because of some illness or something?

No.

He's Dead. He stopped talking.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:10:21 PM
And being dead isn't an illness?
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hunter s.durden on June 07, 2007, 09:14:26 PM
Fuck no.

It's the cure.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on June 07, 2007, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Hey there.

Doesn't RAW tend to slur his words anyway, because of some illness or something?

I prounounce it Aer-is.  I'm pretty certain thats the correct Greek way, though I may have to check again.  Its been a while since I did that stuff.

Aeris?

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/7-aeris-a.jpg)




Sorry, I just played it once!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:16:28 PM
Get that shit away from me.

And no.  Kinda.  Its hard to write it out phonetically.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Minja on June 07, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
Hi back!
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Hey there.

Doesn't RAW tend to slur his words anyway, because of some illness or something?

Yeah, he did slur his words pretty much the whole time I knew him in person, but when I first met him in '04 he still communicated quite well and quite clearly said airreese.

Quote from: Professor Cramulus on June 07, 2007, 09:02:10 PM
Hi Minja! Welcome aboard!

I'm curious - how did you know Bob? Are you one of the MLA folks?

Hi Prof, thanks for the welcome.  

I AM an MLA folk, but I've actually had the principiadiscordia.com website bookmarked for at least a year... and dear BogusMagus led me over to this forum via his posts on MLA about this place.  

As for how I knew Bob... the MLA had just started, Bob participated directly on the forum and in classes, and I got brave and asked him to officiate my wedding (not realizing the state of his health).  He politely declined but invited me to the Wednesday book nights at his place, since I live close to Santa Cruz.  I visited him sporadically until about 4 months before his death.


As for Aeris, lots of FF fanboys call her Aerith, which always makes me think that they've all got lisps... or should that be lithps?
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 08, 2007, 12:20:19 AM
Quote from: Minja on June 07, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
Hi, I'm new around here.  Been reading for a day or so.  I suppose now that I'm not lurking anymore I should go post on that introductions thread or something.

Actually, Mourning Star, you may have been just bullshitting about how RAW pronounced Eris, but you were spot on - he did say Air-Reese, basically.  He also pronounced PD "Prinkipia Discordia."  Heard it with me own ears, I did...

But I still say "air-is" and "Prinsipia"... I loved that old man Papa Bob, but I liked my pronunciations better... and besides, I got the impression he really didn't like people thinking or saying things just cuz he did... I remember him telling me once, with a rather serious look on his face, "one should remember that 'fan' is short for 'fanatic.'"

I know...hehe.  I have several hours of his lectures and radio/television appearances.

Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Minja on June 08, 2007, 12:23:16 AM
Just an FYI: I will take you people seriously when you're joking A LOT.  I'm kinda gullible like that.  :D
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on June 08, 2007, 01:09:39 AM
Quote from: Minja on June 07, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
Hi, I'm new around here.  Been reading for a day or so.  I suppose now that I'm not lurking anymore I should go post on that introductions thread or something.

Actually, Mourning Star, you may have been just bullshitting about how RAW pronounced Eris, but you were spot on - he did say Air-Reese, basically.  He also pronounced PD "Prinkipia Discordia."  Heard it with me own ears, I did...

But I still say "air-is" and "Prinsipia"... I loved that old man Papa Bob, but I liked my pronunciations better... and besides, I got the impression he really didn't like people thinking or saying things just cuz he did... I remember him telling me once, with a rather serious look on his face, "one should remember that 'fan' is short for 'fanatic.'"

Prinkipia is actually correct.

I don't pronounce it that way, because I'm a lazy fuck, but that is how it should be pronounced.  No 's' sound in Latin.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 08, 2007, 01:14:23 AM
Quote from: Minja on June 07, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
Hi back!
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2007, 09:01:41 PM
Hey there.

Doesn't RAW tend to slur his words anyway, because of some illness or something?

Yeah, he did slur his words pretty much the whole time I knew him in person, but when I first met him in '04 he still communicated quite well and quite clearly said airreese.

Quote from: Professor Cramulus on June 07, 2007, 09:02:10 PM
Hi Minja! Welcome aboard!

I'm curious - how did you know Bob? Are you one of the MLA folks?

Hi Prof, thanks for the welcome. 

I AM an MLA folk, but I've actually had the principiadiscordia.com website bookmarked for at least a year... and dear BogusMagus led me over to this forum via his posts on MLA about this place. 

As for how I knew Bob... the MLA had just started, Bob participated directly on the forum and in classes, and I got brave and asked him to officiate my wedding (not realizing the state of his health).  He politely declined but invited me to the Wednesday book nights at his place, since I live close to Santa Cruz.  I visited him sporadically until about 4 months before his death.


As for Aeris, lots of FF fanboys call her Aerith, which always makes me think that they've all got lisps... or should that be lithps?

Let me find the comic...

took me some searching...but here it is

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ruined888/20021016.gif)


*Edit*  Fixed image link
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Shit on June 13, 2007, 05:05:28 AM
Her name is too holy to be spoken.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 25, 2007, 12:08:31 AM
Quote from: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~

Your logic and studious knowledge of dead languages have no effect on me!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Payne on June 25, 2007, 12:11:05 AM
Quote from: Mourning Star on June 25, 2007, 12:08:31 AM
Quote from: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~

Your logic and studious knowledge of dead languages have no effect on me!

Damn right.

I will still pronounce it ALL "booll-shit"
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on June 25, 2007, 01:35:27 AM
Quote from: Payne on June 25, 2007, 12:11:05 AM
Quote from: Mourning Star on June 25, 2007, 12:08:31 AM
Quote from: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~

Your logic and studious knowledge of dead languages have no effect on me!

Damn right.

I will still pronounce it ALL "booll-shit"

:lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Torodung on June 26, 2007, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: Payne on June 25, 2007, 12:11:05 AM
Quote from: Mourning Star on June 25, 2007, 12:08:31 AM
Quote from: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~

Your logic and studious knowledge of dead languages have no effect on me!

Damn right.

I will still pronounce it ALL "booll-shit"

You summoned me? Holy shit! You summoned me.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
I've been thinking about this.

I think in conversation I will begin to use all those pronunciations, then deny it if called on it.  THAT'S lulz!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: nostalgicBadger on February 14, 2008, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: cymra37 on June 24, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
Actually, the Greeks have two versions of "E"
Epsilon has the "eh" sound while Eta makes the "ee" sound.
The name Eris starts with Eta, so Eeris is the correct pronunciation.
As for "Prinkipia," that's only correct in Classical Latin, which was used for scholarly work and legal documents. The Latin spoken by the people was closer to Italian or Romanian and worked differently, so it would have been called Principii de Discordia and pronounced "princhippy de diskordia."
Also, because of the Eta thing, Kallisti should be "Kalliste."
~s~

Basically what you're saying is, if vulgar townsfolk had written the Principia Discordia in Italy, they probably would have written it in Italian and named it Principii de Discordia.

However, vulgar Italian townsfolk did not write the Principia Discordia, and in fact I don't even believe an Italian wrote the Principia Discordia. If we must, for some reason, translate the title into its writer's native tongue, we would simply call it the Principles of Discord or Discord's Beginning, depending on how you want to translate principium - I don't remember whether principia's -a ending functions both as the genitive and the plural in this case, although I believe that it does. However, if the author wanted people to call the book the Principles of Discord, then I believe he would have titled it as such. Otherwise, I must assume that because he did not, he would prefer it to be called by its Latin title, phonetically: "prin-kip-ee-uh".

As for the proper pronunciation of Eris, I wouldn't know. I never studied Greek, and discussions about Greek mythology and Discordianism don't end up happening as often in the real world as I might like. The way I personally pronounce it sounds like heiress, and nobody has ever corrected me, my mythology professor included.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2008, 10:49:35 PM
So take THAT, Cymra37!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2008, 10:57:11 PM
IN YOUR FACE!

Also, I tend to agree.  Very similar to Badger, I always pronounced it that way and was never called out on it by my Classical studies professors.  Of course, Eris didn't come up much, but I managed to sneak her into a few discussions.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 14, 2008, 11:00:59 PM
Me too, 'cept I didn't never get to go to no school, so I don't no as much as you all.

But I sure do like talking with the smarts peoples!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Nast on February 14, 2008, 11:40:26 PM
Well, I should think that the true ancient pronunciation wouldn't affect in away how we pronounce it. We aren't speaking Classical Greek, after all.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2008, 11:46:34 PM
I am.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: nostalgicBadger on February 14, 2008, 11:57:43 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2008, 11:59:13 PM
Ancient Greekfags, unite!

Wait, that came out wrong...
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Nast on February 15, 2008, 12:03:14 AM
Doing lewd things to wine jugs ITT



Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Triple Zero on February 15, 2008, 01:16:06 AM
:lol:

also,

"prince-sea-pee-uh"

"ear-is"

except with a thick dutch accent.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 03:02:53 AM
E-rissss.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on February 15, 2008, 03:07:10 AM
I pronounce it "ohhh...nearly naked goddess with an apple" *fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap*
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 03:09:39 AM
And that is correct as well.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2008, 03:13:32 AM
 :oops:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 03:14:48 AM
The Lady has got it going on, it must be admitted.

Edit: Even more than Stacy's mom.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2008, 03:20:17 AM
That video makes me strangely uncomfortable.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Mourning Star on February 15, 2008, 03:30:31 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 15, 2008, 03:20:17 AM
That video makes me strangely uncomfortable.

What video?

I think you put this reply in the wrong thread...
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2008, 03:38:28 AM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 15, 2008, 03:14:48 AMStacy's mom.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: nostalgicBadger on February 15, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean.   :eek:

Quote from: Hoopla on February 15, 2008, 03:20:17 AM
That video makes me strangely uncomfortable.

Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Jasper on February 16, 2008, 04:25:32 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 15, 2008, 03:20:17 AM
That video makes me strangely comfortable.

Fixed.  You vanillas. 8)
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Eve on February 16, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 16, 2008, 04:25:32 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on February 15, 2008, 03:20:17 AM
That video makes me strangely comfortable.

Fixed.  You vanillas. 8)

:lulz:
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Malaul on February 17, 2008, 01:53:50 AM
 :D
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Lüftwaffle on February 22, 2008, 01:26:48 AM
Anyways, get back on track you fuckers,

I live in in Famagusta. After asking most of the old ladies in my neighbourhood,  (ther are no old men,
as the Royal Queens Fusiliers shot them all in 1959) , I was shown many a FURROWED brow, and
mouths left agape...
None of them knew what the FCUK I was talking about.

Eris is surely dead...

Aphrodite, however is surely alive and sucking!
At least in the Greco Colonies.

One little YAYA did say that if she had heard of said Goddess, she would pronounce her name as,

Eereethee, if she was a teen nubile, or Eereth or Eereesi  if adultish.

Anyway Bollocks to Eris. I love Aphrodite. Queen of the Sexy. :evil:

Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: nostalgicBadger on February 22, 2008, 05:11:19 AM
BLASPHEMY!
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 22, 2008, 06:25:17 AM
Quote from: nostalgicBadger on February 22, 2008, 05:11:19 AM
BLASPHEMY!

Excellent! We need moar of that around here.
Title: Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 23, 2008, 08:51:14 PM
I pronounce it "it's not like deities actually exist so who gives a shit?"