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Started by P3nT4gR4m, May 26, 2014, 12:51:04 PM

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Oh, tidal capture. I kept thinking what Oregon was doing (which isn't tidal), and that totally threw me. Oregon is going for wave-action capture.

(looks for link, notices the project is bust)

http://earthtechling.com/2014/03/opts-planned-oregon-wave-energy-project-falters-again/
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Seems I was right about PV price/performance heading toward feasibility

Graphene and some new crap called Perovskite.

QuoteWe have been predicting that our cells could generate power for as little as $0.20/Watt but this could drive down costs even further

The last I heard it was more than 4 times that!

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Junkenstein

Quote from: Raz Tech on May 28, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Put it on NASCAR tracks, so we can finally get something useful out of that god-forsaken "sport"

Hate NASCAR now? Imagine how much you'll hate it in about 10-15 years when it's now a highly exclusive "sport". The gentrification of NASCAR is coming.
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P3nT4gR4m

The internal combustion engine has had it's day. What's coming is motherfucken Wipeout

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Raz Tech

#49
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: Raz Tech on May 28, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Put it on NASCAR tracks, so we can finally get something useful out of that god-forsaken "sport"

Hate NASCAR now? Imagine how much you'll hate it in about 10-15 years when it's now a highly exclusive "sport". The gentrification of NASCAR is coming.

I'll still hate it the same amount.  You see, the utter pointlessness of the whole thing, combined with the absurd amount of fans who insist (constantly) that I only don't like it because I don't understand all the science and tactics behind it has caused me to reach a type of searing rage/hate plateau for the thing as a whole.
Yes, I know how a slipstream works.  Yes, I know you have to time pit stops perfectly.  I still don't give a shit.  Go back to your crystal meth den.

P3nT4gR4m

They added Nascar to Gran Turismo 5. I was active on a couple of GT forums at the time and there was much arguing with the Nascar fans who were saying "give it a chance, it's awesome" and "It's about much more than just driving round in circles"

So I gave it a chance. It wasn't awesome. It was 99% driving round in circles with a little flurry of overtaking, right at the end. Reminded me of Ebay, if you watched the whole auction, rather than logging on for the last couple of minutes.

Fuck Nascar - it's boring and retarded  :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
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Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
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LMNO

Quote from: Raz Tech on May 29, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: Raz Tech on May 28, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Put it on NASCAR tracks, so we can finally get something useful out of that god-forsaken "sport"

Hate NASCAR now? Imagine how much you'll hate it in about 10-15 years when it's now a highly exclusive "sport". The gentrification of NASCAR is coming.

I'll still hate it the same amount.  You see, the utter pointlessness of the whole thing, combined with the absurd amount of fans who insist (constantly) that I only don't like it because I don't understand all the science and tactics behind it has caused me to reach a type of searing rage/hate plateau for the thing as a whole.
Yes, I know how a slipstream works.  Yes, I know you have to time pit stops perfectly.  I still don't give a shit.  Go back to your crystal meth den.

I like your style.  You're really working out quite well here at PD. 

Junkenstein

I honestly don't think either of you are ready for what NASCAR will become when the petroeconomy puts the cost of driving in circles into the hands of the ultra rich alone.

You see those solid gold Rolls Royces and such? All the ridiculous super-cars made in editions of single figures for Multi-billionaires?

Imagine that, as the biggest sporting and social event of the month. At that point it won't even be about the value of the car, but the value of fuel consumed going in a circle. You won't be able to avoid or ignore it either. It'll be everywhere and EVERYONE will want to talk to you about it.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Raz Tech



I created this simple graph to help you understand, where the bottom is the year and the side is a numerical representation of my hate. As you can see, I've clearly reached the Satan ass-fucking Hitler plateau, and once you're that high on anger, there's no coming down.

Junkenstein

#54
 :lulz:

Take a bow good sir, that's classic.

Make this guy a level 4 user, he's one of us.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 29, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
Seems I was right about PV price/performance heading toward feasibility

Graphene and some new crap called Perovskite.

QuoteWe have been predicting that our cells could generate power for as little as $0.20/Watt but this could drive down costs even further

The last I heard it was more than 4 times that!

Sn perovskite panels are extremely inefficient, around 6% efficiency, though given enough time they could catch up to Pb perovskite panels (which are maxing at about 16%, still pretty inefficient compared to the nearly 40% efficiency of some photovoltaic panels (well, technically some photovoltaic panels are close to 45% efficiency, but those are crazy expensive). Sn is problematic to work with from what I've read, due to instability in its ionized form, so who knows where that'll go.
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Quote from: Raz Tech on May 28, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
Put it on NASCAR tracks, so we can finally get something useful out of that god-forsaken "sport"

:lulz: I really like you.
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#58
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
:lulz:

Take a bow good sir, that's classic.

Make this guy a level 4 user, he's one of us.

God damnit, now my head is going "Gooble gobble one of us"
And I hope that thanks to this post, yours is doing the same.  :evil:
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Quote from: trix on July 09, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 29, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
:lulz:

Take a bow good sir, that's classic.

Make this guy a level 4 user, he's one of us.

God damnit, now my head is going "Gooble gobble one of us"
And I hope that thanks to this post, yours is doing the same.  :evil:
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