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Bush's speech was a manifesto, albeit one that is full of vagueries and contradictions that were so admirably identified by LMNO,Gnimbley et al.
The problem with any & all manifestos is that they are essentially Utoptian in nature. I think we're all big enough and clever enough on this forum to appreciate that creating Utopia is extremely unlikely, if not, downright impossible.
Therefore, every politician either on purpose or by simple force of circumstances will always be unable to deliver everything they have 'promised'. If anyone can show me any society in which the political system successfully delivered all of it's promises, I will be very impressed, surprised and calling the nearest psychiatric unit to collect you asap. As the gnome pointed out, even the Soviets thought they were freeing people from the oppression of Tsarism (insert ironic, Homer Simpson headslap + doh combo)
George Orwell was reprimanded by the British Communist party because, he suggested that on a Sunday afternoon, one's time was better spent in the local park having a picnic with the family, than standing on corners doling out political leaflets. Whatever ideology you buy into, whether it's Bush or other, you must accept that they promise Utopia and never deliver. All you can do is make calculated risks on how much you think they can pull off and vote accordingly..(or not, if that's the choice you wish to exercise).
On the other hand, if you actually, really, truly, honestly, totally believe that in 4 years Bush will solve all the world's problems and make everyone so shiny & happy, then you will ever be pwned by your own naivity and are subject to the most intense, savage satire that the residents of PD can muster. I wish I had Chef's zen-like simpicity.
So VoT - while I uphold your freedom & right to maintain beliefs that I do not care for personally, it is time to make a decision. Either you're going to take your grand exit or you're going to stay and post regularly. But make up your fucking mind, man. You cannot both posess and consume the proverbial cake.
The neo-con schtick is played. Statistical analysis will reveal that the largest % of PD members do not support your chosen political model. Sorry. We don't, you do. End of. Do not be surprised or offended that few people here, if any, support Bush. If you think we're all arrogant, narrowminded liberal asshats, fine. Just leave. You are not being held against your wishes.
What is it you want from us exactly?
Mangrove
Bush's speech was a manifesto, albeit one that is full of vagueries and contradictions that were so admirably identified by LMNO,Gnimbley et al.
The problem with any & all manifestos is that they are essentially Utoptian in nature. I think we're all big enough and clever enough on this forum to appreciate that creating Utopia is extremely unlikely, if not, downright impossible.
Therefore, every politician either on purpose or by simple force of circumstances will always be unable to deliver everything they have 'promised'. If anyone can show me any society in which the political system successfully delivered all of it's promises, I will be very impressed, surprised and calling the nearest psychiatric unit to collect you asap. As the gnome pointed out, even the Soviets thought they were freeing people from the oppression of Tsarism (insert ironic, Homer Simpson headslap + doh combo)
George Orwell was reprimanded by the British Communist party because, he suggested that on a Sunday afternoon, one's time was better spent in the local park having a picnic with the family, than standing on corners doling out political leaflets. Whatever ideology you buy into, whether it's Bush or other, you must accept that they promise Utopia and never deliver. All you can do is make calculated risks on how much you think they can pull off and vote accordingly..(or not, if that's the choice you wish to exercise).
On the other hand, if you actually, really, truly, honestly, totally believe that in 4 years Bush will solve all the world's problems and make everyone so shiny & happy, then you will ever be pwned by your own naivity and are subject to the most intense, savage satire that the residents of PD can muster. I wish I had Chef's zen-like simpicity.
So VoT - while I uphold your freedom & right to maintain beliefs that I do not care for personally, it is time to make a decision. Either you're going to take your grand exit or you're going to stay and post regularly. But make up your fucking mind, man. You cannot both posess and consume the proverbial cake.
The neo-con schtick is played. Statistical analysis will reveal that the largest % of PD members do not support your chosen political model. Sorry. We don't, you do. End of. Do not be surprised or offended that few people here, if any, support Bush. If you think we're all arrogant, narrowminded liberal asshats, fine. Just leave. You are not being held against your wishes.
What is it you want from us exactly?
Mangrove