Got an annoying forward in the mail today while reading through Illuminatus! Thought it might be of interest to Discordians. Or perhaps I was more interested in what Discordians would make of it. Anyway, it's worth a try, or a fry. And hello!
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FUCK YOU! MY MOM CUT OFF MY RIGHT LEG!
Quote from: Squid on July 17, 2009, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 04:28:49 PM
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I realise I'm breaking all rules of proper etiquette and lurkage. However, I would humbly ask in which way responding with nothingness is less of a transgression than my original one? There is a payoff. If you google the text you'll find 95% of people who try it cannot do the circle and the six. You've already failed the first test - can you pass the second?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
FUCK YOU! MY MOM CUT OFF MY RIGHT LEG!
Damn - because it doesn't work if you try it with the left leg. If you still have the right leg lying around, you can try holding it in your left arm. I'm not sure if that'll work but it's worth a try.
I can assure you, the only thing likely to interest people on this site less than chain-mail spam messages that everyone has seen before is failing whatever "test" you seem to think they should pass.
Welcome, regardless.
Quote from: Cain on July 17, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
I can assure you, the only thing likely to interest people on this site less than chain-mail spam messages that everyone has seen before is failing whatever "test" you seem to think they should pass.
Welcome, regardless.
Thanks for the advice. And for the welcome. I don't see any way to present the subject other than playing the ass. This isn't a test, it's a question. The only alternative is to literally beg for your indulgence in following the instructions in the first post, and I would do that in a second if I thought that would work.
I think it's the comic sans font, it's making my brain turn off.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
I think it's the comic sans font, it's making my brain turn off.
Precisely - but can you do the circle and the 6?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 17, 2009, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 04:28:49 PM
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I realise I'm breaking all rules of proper etiquette and lurkage. However, I would humbly ask in which way responding with nothingness is less of a transgression than my original one? There is a payoff. If you google the text you'll find 95% of people who try it cannot do the circle and the six. You've already failed the first test - can you pass the second?
Look. We're not all new to the internet. We've seen this thing before. Many of us have done it, many didn't give a shit.
We didn't respond with nothingness. That smiley is the "meh" smiley.
Meh as in, we've seen this shit before.
NEXT
Yeah, sorry man, that's pretty old news. I think it's one of those games the phys ed teacher had us play in 6th grade.
I am missing the part where it is hysterical.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on July 17, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
Yeah, sorry man, that's pretty old news. I think it's one of those games the phys ed teacher had us play in 6th grade.
Give the kid a break, Nigel. she's probably just now in 6th grade....
Illuminatus! is on the 6th grade reading list, isn't it?
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on July 17, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
Yeah, sorry man, that's pretty old news. I think it's one of those games the phys ed teacher had us play in 6th grade.
Give the kid a break, Nigel. she's probably just now in 6th grade....
Illuminatus! is on the 6th grade reading list, isn't it?
I'm rereading it and it's a lot less interesting now that I'm not in high school any more.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on July 17, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
Yeah, sorry man, that's pretty old news. I think it's one of those games the phys ed teacher had us play in 6th grade.
Then can you tell me the punchline - why it works the way it does? It's a two part question I ask, the first being the initial post, but I can't ask the second without invalidating your answers to the first.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Give the kid a break, Nigel. she's probably just now in 6th grade....
Illuminatus! is on the 6th grade reading list, isn't it?
I'm rereading it and it's a lot less interesting now that I'm not in high school any more.
I'm thinking it's not age, or your lack of enrollment in high school that makes it less interesting. You've just internalized all the exciting novelty that it offered you the first time. you need new taboos and wrecking balls...
incidentally, are you joining in on the PD book club thang, Badge?
The what?
the book club thing....
we're reading 'Poker without Cards' right now, and then we will discuss over tea and crumpets....
also, when are you gonna change your name back since that other, less desirable, badger fellow is gone?
Finding a copy of Poker Without Cards = effort. And I like this name.
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
the book club thing....
we're reading 'Poker without Cards' right now, and then we will discuss over tea and crumpets....
also, when are you gonna change your name back since that other, less desirable, badger fellow is gone?
SHIT! I want crumpets and tea!
But if it means reading.... well.....
maybe.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 06:12:19 PM
Finding a copy of Poker Without Cards = effort. And I like this name.
there's a link-o to a pdf in the thread....
i think that's going to be a requirement for any book we choose, that it be available in pdf for all to read....
Is there _anyone_ on this board with enough intellectual curiousity to try the experiment?
There are plenty of people on this board with enough intellectual curiosity for this. In fact, mostly they have so much more intellectual curiosity than is required that they're off doing something else more interesting to satisfy it.
If I were you, I'd just let this go.
Why does it take intellectual curiousity? Our human bodies have lots of weird quirks to them, this appears to be one of them, though, with a bit of concentration, I'm able to do it. So why don't you give us your take on this little bit of motor-skill quirkery?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 06:57:14 PM
Is there _anyone_ on this board with enough intellectual curiousity to try the experiment?
What makes you think we haven't.... in 6th grade? (as previously mentioned)
Pick a real brain teaser and try again.
Yea, just kinda reminds me of the " try pat your head while rubbing your stomach" thing which I'm pretty sure parents and/or teachers introduced us to in early grammar school or so.
I'm with trippinprincezz... this is making use of the same neurological quirks that the pat your head/rub your tummy trick uses...
Our brains have a hard enough time getting through the day without intentionally trying to get them to send opposite commands to two different extremities at once. You can do this with legs only, hands only, a mix of the two etc. Out of all the ways to confuse your own neurological system this is a pretty simple one.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 07:06:57 PM
Why does it take intellectual curiousity? Our human bodies have lots of weird quirks to them, this appears to be one of them, though, with a bit of concentration, I'm able to do it. So why don't you give us your take on this little bit of motor-skill quirkery?
Thank you. And sorry (forum) for the intellectual curiusity/kick to the balls. Especially to those members who have no balls. You kinda broke the spell with the "bit of concentration" line. It's not a motor-skill issue - it's just a mind-fuck - literally.
It has a whole bunch of manipulative elements: the comic sans font (I'm not threatening), it came from a doctor (appeal to authority fallacy), repetition that you won't be able to do it - "there's nothing you can do about it" (power of suggestion), "how smart is your right foot" - repeated (encouraging separation of consciousness), the author professes they can't do it either (follow-the-leader).
Question - is it likely all these elements came together by accident? If not - who has an interest in monitoring the collective suggestibility of the populace with forwards like these?
If you're still having trouble doing the simple exercise, just repeat "I am not a robot" a few times, and understanding that all talk of the "difficulty" is an intentionally made-up lie, you'll have no trouble doing it.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 07:28:24 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 07:06:57 PM
Why does it take intellectual curiousity? Our human bodies have lots of weird quirks to them, this appears to be one of them, though, with a bit of concentration, I'm able to do it. So why don't you give us your take on this little bit of motor-skill quirkery?
Thank you. And sorry (forum) for the intellectual curiusity/kick to the balls. Especially to those members who have no balls. You kinda broke the spell with the "bit of concentration" line. It's not a motor-skill issue - it's just a mind-fuck - literally.
It has a whole bunch of manipulative elements: the comic sans font (I'm not threatening), it came from a doctor (appeal to authority fallacy), repetition that you won't be able to do it - "there's nothing you can do about it" (power of suggestion), "how smart is your right foot" - repeated (encouraging separation of consciousness), the author professes they can't do it either (follow-the-leader).
Question - is it likely all these elements came together by accident? If not - who has an interest in monitoring the collective suggestibility of the populace with forwards like these?
If you're still having trouble doing the simple exercise, just repeat "I am not a robot" a few times, and understanding that all talk of the "difficulty" is an intentionally made-up lie, you'll have no trouble doing it.
It's like memetic magic, done poorly with failsauce applied liberally to the top.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
It's like memetic magic, done poorly with failsauce applied liberally to the top.
Maybe, but unless you performed the experiment beforehand, you cannot prove to yourself that you had the mental wherewithal to withstand that particular onslaught of suggestion. All of the respondents on this thread put it down to a quirk of physiology, when it is entirely psychological.
How can it be done so poorly, when it hoodwinked 100% of the random sampling of regulars here?
And you assumed that when I said "motor-skill quirkery" that I wasn't considering mental trickery being a part of that equation. Am I right?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 07:56:27 PM
And you assumed that when I said "motor-skill quirkery" that I wasn't considering mental trickery being a part of that equation. Am I right?
You're absolutely right. Is mental trickery so commonplace here such that it doesn't deserve an explicit mention when it is the obvious answer to a question asked? If so, that's two assumptions I failed upon - sorry!
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
It's like memetic magic, done poorly with failsauce applied liberally to the top.
Maybe, but unless you performed the experiment beforehand, you cannot prove to yourself that you had the mental wherewithal to withstand that particular onslaught of suggestion. All of the respondents on this thread put it down to a quirk of physiology, when it is entirely psychological.
How can it be done so poorly, when it hoodwinked 100% of the random sampling of regulars here?
You separate physiology and psychology? interesting.
Further, I wouldn't think it 100% psychological, just as the patting/rubbing head and tummy thing isn't 100% psychological. In both the tendency is for the brain to send 'similar' signals rather than different ones to two active bits at once. Either concentration or practice will overcome this. In the example here, when I tried it, I simply concentrated and it worked fine. I fear that you might be reading 'psych' into something that may well not be as simple as you think. I'm also not sure what you mean by "hoodwinked 100% of the ... regulars here".
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
It's like memetic magic, done poorly with failsauce applied liberally to the top.
Maybe, but unless you performed the experiment beforehand, you cannot prove to yourself that you had the mental wherewithal to withstand that particular onslaught of suggestion. All of the respondents on this thread put it down to a quirk of physiology, when it is entirely psychological.
How can it be done so poorly, when it hoodwinked 100% of the random sampling of regulars here?
You separate physiology and psychology? interesting.
Further, I wouldn't think it 100% psychological, just as the patting/rubbing head and tummy thing isn't 100% psychological. In both the tendency is for the brain to send 'similar' signals rather than different ones to two active bits at once. Either concentration or practice will overcome this. In the example here, when I tried it, I simply concentrated and it worked fine. I fear that you might be reading 'psych' into something that may well not be as simple as you think. I'm also not sure what you mean by "hoodwinked 100% of the ... regulars here".
This. Also, not quite sure about the hoodwinked part. If by hoodwinked you mean "didn't bother because I've seen/done a bunch of things similar to this throughout grade school", then, yea, you got me alright.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
You separate physiology and psychology? interesting.
Well I'm not at the point where through thought alone I can thwart the knee-tap-kick reflex, or adjust the size of my pupils at will. Or sneeze.
I agree it's a spectrum rather than a clean compartmentalisation, however I assume the use of those words which lie at different points on the spectrum indicate a bias/weighting in those directions.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
Further, I wouldn't think it 100% psychological, just as the patting/rubbing head and tummy thing isn't 100% psychological. In both the tendency is for the brain to send 'similar' signals rather than different ones to two active bits at once. Either concentration or practice will overcome this. In the example here, when I tried it, I simply concentrated and it worked fine. I fear that you might be reading 'psych' into something that may well not be as simple as you think.
Initially I couldn't do it no matter how hard I concentrated. Then I decided to believe that it was an elaborate hoax, and I could immediately do it without concentrating, or with.
To me that screams psych.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
I'm also not sure what you mean by "hoodwinked 100% of the ... regulars here".
Ah, still playing the "ass", sorry. If one pretends for long enough, there loses all distinction.
I think you are trying to make that ridiculous first post have more value than it does, or needs to have.
Off topic: DC - noticed your latest avatar but only that it was different. Actually looked at it now and it made me LOL
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
This. Also, not quite sure about the hoodwinked part. If by hoodwinked you mean "didn't bother because I've seen/done a bunch of things similar to this throughout grade school", then, yea, you got me alright.
I did similar things too. I never experienced the revelation that simply believing that I could do it immediately made all the difference. Breaking out of hypnosis so dramatically is something I'd never experienced either. One minute my leg was spasmodically jerking out of orbit as if I had no control over it, the next everything was smooth and the spell was broken. I evidently attended the wrong schools.
But you, in particular, were hoodwinked into believing it was something beneath you. Not worth your time. You're still telling yourself that. If I had put it any other way then you'd have had your guard up, which would have invalidated the experiment. That you have no way of proving that you were "above" it, matters more to you than it does me, otherwise you'd not be responding to this thread.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:12:33 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
You separate physiology and psychology? interesting.
Well I'm not at the point where through thought alone I can thwart the knee-tap-kick reflex, or adjust the size of my pupils at will. Or sneeze.
I agree it's a spectrum rather than a clean compartmentalisation, however I assume the use of those words which lie at different points on the spectrum indicate a bias/weighting in those directions.
It is possible, though I think it would require a lot of work to determine where this was on the scale.
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Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
Further, I wouldn't think it 100% psychological, just as the patting/rubbing head and tummy thing isn't 100% psychological. In both the tendency is for the brain to send 'similar' signals rather than different ones to two active bits at once. Either concentration or practice will overcome this. In the example here, when I tried it, I simply concentrated and it worked fine. I fear that you might be reading 'psych' into something that may well not be as simple as you think.
Initially I couldn't do it no matter how hard I concentrated. Then I decided to believe that it was an elaborate hoax, and I could immediately do it without concentrating, or with.
To me that screams psych.
To me that screams psych,
in your experience. There may be a large difference there.
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Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
I'm also not sure what you mean by "hoodwinked 100% of the ... regulars here".
Ah, still playing the "ass", sorry. If one pretends for long enough, there loses all distinction.
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We here are all asses, thus playing the ass doesn't work as well as it does on other sites... sorta like playing the trickster when Coyote, Raven, Ananasai and well, Ratatosk are hanging out with you. You might pull something off, but its likely that they've already done it and are wise to the tricks.
I hope that makes more sense to you than it does to me upon reading it back to myself.
FYI, I can adjust the size of my pupils at will. :thanks:
p.s. I'm not kidding.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:21:12 PM
It is possible, though I think it would require a lot of work to determine where this was on the scale.
Agreed.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:21:12 PM
To me that screams psych, in your experience. There may be a large difference there.
Agreed.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:21:12 PM
We here are all asses, thus playing the ass doesn't work as well as it does on other sites... sorta like playing the trickster when Coyote, Raven, Ananasai and well, Ratatosk are hanging out with you. You might pull something off, but its likely that they've already done it and are wise to the tricks.
I hope that makes more sense to you than it does to me upon reading it back to myself.
Agreed. No wait, agreed.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 17, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
I think you are trying to make that ridiculous first post have more value than it does, or needs to have.
If you think that, then you should re-read the thread. You'll find a continuity there which directly contradicts your opinion.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:17:48 PM
Off topic: DC - noticed your latest avatar but only that it was different. Actually looked at it now and it made me LOL
It makes me giggle and get creeped out all at once. Therefore, I had to inflict it on PDCOM. :D
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 17, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
I think you are trying to make that ridiculous first post have more value than it does, or needs to have.
If you think that, then you should re-read the thread. You'll find a continuity there which directly contradicts your opinion.
Haven't been able to find it yet.
Starts out with first post. Lots of people point out that it's old news and they are disinterested. It is defended with weak arguments that are also fairly old news. We arrive here.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:04:55 PM
This. Also, not quite sure about the hoodwinked part. If by hoodwinked you mean "didn't bother because I've seen/done a bunch of things similar to this throughout grade school", then, yea, you got me alright.
But you, in particular, were hoodwinked into believing it was something beneath you. Not worth your time. You're still telling yourself that. If I had put it any other way then you'd have had your guard up, which would have invalidated the experiment. That you have no way of proving that you were "above" it, matters more to you than it does me, otherwise you'd not be responding to this thread.
lol what? Don't believe I ever used the words "beneath me". Merely that I didn't feel like doing it because I've done it so it's not really spectacularly amazing to me. A newer mind-trick/illusion/whatever, I'd be game, but it's the same with a lot of the visual illusions I see online lately. I'll them a go, but unless it's really really cool for reals then I'm not going to spend my time looking at the same illusion over and over. Simple as that. I'm still not sure what I'm proving that I'm above, but I'm responding to this thread because I'm bored and feel like it. Need some way to make the rest of my work last the next hour and half I'm gonna be here.
HAI GUIZE!! I FOUND THIS WICKED COOL PICTURE!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU SEE?!?!
(http://www.artandperception.com/v01/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/vase-face.jpg)
ANAL?
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 17, 2009, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:17:48 PM
Off topic: DC - noticed your latest avatar but only that it was different. Actually looked at it now and it made me LOL
It makes me giggle and get creeped out all at once. Therefore, I had to inflict it on PDCOM. :D
I keep giggling every time I look at it. It's mesmerizing. :lol:
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
lol what? Don't believe I ever used the words "beneath me". Merely that I didn't feel like doing it because I've done it so it's not really spectacularly amazing to me. A newer mind-trick/illusion/whatever, I'd be game, but it's the same with a lot of the visual illusions I see online lately. I'll them a go, but unless it's really really cool for reals then I'm not going to spend my time looking at the same illusion over and over. Simple as that. I'm still not sure what I'm proving that I'm above, but I'm responding to this thread because I'm bored and feel like it. Need some way to make the rest of my work last the next hour and half I'm gonna be here.
It's not the individual illusion that I find interesting either. Just the fact that it's an example of hypnosis-by-email, it's fairly sophisticated, and I think that's worthy of discussion.
Of course, you can't as easily determine how sophisticated it is until you've faced it naked and unaware, then defeated it.
I'll stop analysing your motivations - bad habit - sorry!
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 17, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
Haven't been able to find it yet.
Starts out with first post. Lots of people point out that it's old news and they are disinterested. It is defended with weak arguments that are also fairly old news. We arrive here.
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:49:39 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
lol what? Don't believe I ever used the words "beneath me". Merely that I didn't feel like doing it because I've done it so it's not really spectacularly amazing to me. A newer mind-trick/illusion/whatever, I'd be game, but it's the same with a lot of the visual illusions I see online lately. I'll them a go, but unless it's really really cool for reals then I'm not going to spend my time looking at the same illusion over and over. Simple as that. I'm still not sure what I'm proving that I'm above, but I'm responding to this thread because I'm bored and feel like it. Need some way to make the rest of my work last the next hour and half I'm gonna be here.
It's not the individual illusion that I find interesting either. Just the fact that it's an example of hypnosis-by-email, it's fairly sophisticated, and I think that's worthy of discussion.
Of course, you can't as easily determine how sophisticated it is until you've faced it naked and unaware, then defeated it.
I'll stop analysing your motivations - bad habit - sorry!
I think first you'd have to mount a credible defense for claiming its hypnosis by email. As of yet I've seen no compelling reason to think this.
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 06:12:19 PM
Finding a copy of Poker Without Cards = effort. And I like this name.
there's a link-o to a pdf in the thread....
i think that's going to be a requirement for any book we choose, that it be available in pdf for all to read....
I can;t read long blocks of text on computer screen.
PS the OP should quit having a temper tantrum because we're not behaving like you want us to behave.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 17, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
Haven't been able to find it yet.
Starts out with first post. Lots of people point out that it's old news and they are disinterested. It is defended with weak arguments that are also fairly old news. We arrive here.
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Umm, I think most of the posts on the first page were saying that.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
I think first you'd have to mount a credible defense for claiming its hypnosis by email. As of yet I've seen no compelling reason to think this.
It's via email. It's hypnosis (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3619/) because it implants a suggestion which the conscious mind has difficulty contradicting, and in most cases, not at all.
I did present some of the observable techniques used here (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=21563.msg729155#msg729155).
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:06:51 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 08:59:33 PM
I think first you'd have to mount a credible defense for claiming its hypnosis by email. As of yet I've seen no compelling reason to think this.
It's via email. It's hypnosis (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3619/) because it implants a suggestion which the conscious mind has difficulty contradicting, and in most cases, not at all.
I did present some of the observable techniques used here (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=21563.msg729155#msg729155).
Seems to me that YOU think its hypnosis... Personally, for me, I think its a physiological phenomena which you can control with concentration. If you, personally, were not able to control it without psyching yourself up, that seems, in my opinion, to say more about your neurological system than hypnosis via email.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Umm, I think most of the posts on the first page were saying that.
If you can spell it out for me, I'll happily shut up. The first post on the first page which gives anything remotely specific, refers to phys-ed in the 6th grade, which is definitely not what we're talking about now.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Umm, I think most of the posts on the first page were saying that.
If you can spell it out for me, I'll happily shut up. The first post on the first page which gives anything remotely specific, refers to phys-ed in the 6th grade, which is definitely not what we're talking about now.
What we seem to be talking about now is you trying to make one thing into something it's not so you can feel like you stumbled across something amazing.
By the way, did you see the wicked cool picture I posted above?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Umm, I think most of the posts on the first page were saying that.
If you can spell it out for me, I'll happily shut up. The first post on the first page which gives anything remotely specific, refers to phys-ed in the 6th grade, which is definitely not what we're talking about now.
If you had to guess, what do you think this :| means? Do you think it means, "Holy cow man, you just totally blew my mind there!" or, maybe, just maybe, it means, chirping crickets/you're boring me kid? Which do you think it is? Also, there was a post, just above the post about 6th grade, that spelled it out pretty clearly that this is a "been there/done that/boring" thing.
Finally, the fact that I've had to explain this much to you doesn't bode well.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 09:09:30 PM
Seems to me that YOU think its hypnosis... Personally, for me, I think its a physiological phenomena which you can control with concentration. If you, personally, were not able to control it without psyching yourself up, that seems, in my opinion, to say more about your neurological system than hypnosis via email.
What basis/evidence do you have that it's primarily physiological? I've seen references to "patting your head and rubbing your tummy" which everyone was pretty much exposed to as a kid. For me that proves nothing, in my experience that was usually accompanied by a "hey - bet you can't do this".. which puts it back into the territory which I'm describing.
There was no "psyching" or effort involved, just simply a "I'm not going to believe this any more". But I agree that a sample size of one is meaningless.. hence..
Also, it is now 4:15 and I only have 45 more minutes left of work. Where did the time go?
I must have hypnotized myself with the internet to make time go faster!! OMG WTF you guys?!
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
The arc of this thread is pretty much what I expected. I couldn't think of a better way to present it. No-one has come out and said "Unknown persons hypnotising people through chain-mail for unknown reasons is uninteresting and old-news - check the FAQ". Until then, I guess we're having separate conversations.
Umm, I think most of the posts on the first page were saying that.
If you can spell it out for me, I'll happily shut up. The first post on the first page which gives anything remotely specific, refers to phys-ed in the 6th grade, which is definitely not what we're talking about now.
I think you may just be seeing it that way...
I see it like this:
You make post about phenomena.
Several of us say "Been there, Done that in school"
You say "NO IT'S HYPNOSIS"
We say, Uhhh.... probably not, why are you still harping on this"
You say "Cause its Hypnosis, cause it worked on me!"
etc...
It might appear as hypnosis to you... but having studied hypnosis, it doesn't seem like it to me (and possibly others posting here).
I think you'd need to make a much stronger case for this to go beyond a gainsaying thread of "Yes it 'tis, No it tisn't,"
Or, maybe, let it go and talk about something else. At this point I'm just doing the same thing as tp13 and killing time....
...with my mind rays!
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
I can;t read long blocks of text on computer screen.
PS the OP should quit having a temper tantrum because we're not behaving like you want us to behave.
That's one benefit of working in the cubicle life where reams of shit is printed off continuously.... a book makes little waves at all....
oh well.... just trying to gin up additional interest in the idea.
as far as the OP goes, I don't think she's going to listen to your request as she's too busy eating attention....
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:20:47 PM
Or, maybe, let it go and talk about something else. At this point I'm just doing the same thing as tp13 and killing time....
...with my mind rays!
Is that more of the wisdom that comes with age, Rev? ;-)
age, boredom, indigestion, I don't know.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
What we seem to be talking about now is you trying to make one thing into something it's not so you can feel like you stumbled across something amazing.
Can you explain how all of those manipulative techniques got into that chain-letter, if it wasn't created by somebody who had the required skills and the objective to hood-wink the recipients?
Can you explain why those manipulative elements would need to be present, if it were primarily a physiological reaction?
Is the dissemination of such things a regular/boring occurrence here?
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
By the way, did you see the wicked cool picture I posted above?
I get your sarcasm. It wasn't terribly subtle. :-)
It wasn't until you arrived.
har, har, har!
btw, don't take it personally. it's been a long day and this is amusing me.
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 09:21:31 PM
as far as the OP goes, I don't think she's going to listen to your request as she's too busy eating attention....
If you don't like the troll, don't feed the troll.
I'm not trying to troll though, I'm genuinely trying to understand something, and as such I'm still trying to find answers to my questions.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
What we seem to be talking about now is you trying to make one thing into something it's not so you can feel like you stumbled across something amazing.
Can you explain how all of those manipulative techniques got into that chain-letter, if it wasn't created by somebody who had the required skills and the objective to hood-wink the recipients?
Can you explain why those manipulative elements would need to be present, if it were primarily a physiological reaction?
You seem to be assuming someone thought this up for some nefarious purpose, instead of being like "hey look at this cool trick dude!"
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on July 17, 2009, 09:21:31 PM
as far as the OP goes, I don’t think she’s going to listen to your request as she’s too busy eating attention….
If you don't like the troll, don't feed the troll.
I'm not trying to troll though, I'm genuinely trying to understand something, and as such I'm still trying to find answers to my questions.
If you're trolling it's one of the best trolls ever, nothing pisses off people more than deliberate stupidity.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
I see it like this:
You make post about phenomena.
Several of us say "Been there, Done that in school"
You say "NO IT'S HYPNOSIS"
We say, Uhhh.... probably not, why are you still harping on this"
You say "Cause its Hypnosis, cause it worked on me!"
etc...
It might appear as hypnosis to you... but having studied hypnosis, it doesn't seem like it to me (and possibly others posting here).
I think you'd need to make a much stronger case for this to go beyond a gainsaying thread of "Yes it 'tis, No it tisn't,"
Not one respondent has contradicted, or even addressed the case that I've already made. That would be a pre-requisite for a stronger case.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
It def will be, this guy is persistent.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
It def will be, this guy is persistent.
$50 says aspberger's.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
What we seem to be talking about now is you trying to make one thing into something it's not so you can feel like you stumbled across something amazing.
Can you explain how all of those manipulative techniques got into that chain-letter, if it wasn't created by somebody who had the required skills and the objective to hood-wink the recipients?
Can you explain why those manipulative elements would need to be present, if it were primarily a physiological reaction?
Is the dissemination of such things a regular/boring occurrence here?
Do you think those chain e-mails that warn you that YOU'D BETTER FORWARD THIS OR SOMETHING REALLY BAD FOR REALS WILL HAPPEN CUZ MY FRIEND DELETED IT AND HE GOT HIT BY A TRAIN! are hypnosis too?
The mention of an orthopaedic surgeon is a bit of an appeal to authority but....so? It reads like a childhood dare (betcha can't do this!) with a reference to a doctor to make it more of a challenge (a doctor says it's impossible? - or whatever the OP said - I'll show him!!). Doesn't read like hypnosis to me and really not any different than if someone asked you in person to do it. At most it's a challenge and introduction to a quirky bodily reaction.
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Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
By the way, did you see the wicked cool picture I posted above?
I get your sarcasm. It wasn't terribly subtle. :-)
:thumb: AWESOME!!!! Also, I just hypnotized you with my words to make you think I was being sarcastic. I was actually being super-srs.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 17, 2009, 09:35:20 PM
If you're trolling it's one of the best trolls ever, nothing pisses off people more than deliberate stupidity.
True! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFQZFL0yoo)
I'm not discounting the possibility that I'm being stupid. I don't see it yet though :-/
Not that I necessarily would of my own accord. But seems like a loop of infinite recursion. I try to avoid those.
Hey take some time off from trying to prove yourself right and read this instead. (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=14112.0)
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:40:26 PM
Do you think those chain e-mails that warn you that YOU'D BETTER FORWARD THIS OR SOMETHING REALLY BAD FOR REALS WILL HAPPEN CUZ MY FRIEND DELETED IT AND HE GOT HIT BY A TRAIN! are hypnosis too?
No. Yes. In a way they are a low-level form of suggestion which works on particularly suggestible people. Maybe hypnosis is too strong/loaded a word. Mind-virus?
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:40:26 PM
The mention of an orthopaedic surgeon is a bit of an appeal to authority but....so? It reads like a childhood dare (betcha can't do this!) with a reference to a doctor to make it more of a challenge (a doctor says it's impossible? - or whatever the OP said - I'll show him!!). Doesn't read like hypnosis to me and really not any different than if someone asked you in person to do it. At most it's a challenge and introduction to a quirky bodily reaction.
It's only a bodily reaction if we don't allow ourselves to bring it under our conscious control.
If you allow yourself to believe me then you will find that you can do the circle and the six with or without concentration, and you will have escaped that particular program.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:40:26 PM
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Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on July 17, 2009, 09:14:27 PM
By the way, did you see the wicked cool picture I posted above?
I get your sarcasm. It wasn't terribly subtle. :-)
:thumb: AWESOME!!!! Also, I just hypnotized you with my words to make you think I was being sarcastic. I was actually being super-srs.
That possibility occurred to me too. The interpretation rested upon whether you had vastly more insight on this matter than I. Since you haven't demonstrated such, I assumed the former. Which, as you suggest, you only have yourself to thank for.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
I see it like this:
You make post about phenomena.
Several of us say "Been there, Done that in school"
You say "NO IT'S HYPNOSIS"
We say, Uhhh.... probably not, why are you still harping on this"
You say "Cause its Hypnosis, cause it worked on me!"
etc...
It might appear as hypnosis to you... but having studied hypnosis, it doesn't seem like it to me (and possibly others posting here).
I think you'd need to make a much stronger case for this to go beyond a gainsaying thread of "Yes it 'tis, No it tisn't,"
Not one respondent has contradicted, or even addressed the case that I've already made. That would be a pre-requisite for a stronger case.
You are making the assumption that the things you're seeing in the email are there... Most of us, seem to think you're applying the Law of Fives to the email. So I'd say you would first need to explain why these lines in an email are hyponotic, rather than fluff that you percveived as hyponotic...
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 17, 2009, 09:55:45 PM
You are making the assumption that the things you're seeing in the email are there... Most of us, seem to think you're applying the Law of Fives to the email. So I'd say you would first need to explain why these lines in an email are hyponotic, rather than fluff that you percveived as hyponotic...
I'm not sure I understand the distinction to your challenge. I think I'll take Badge of Honour's advice and read and ponder for a bit. Thanks everyone for your patience!
I think my IQ just dropped below room temperature thanks to reading this thread.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6702/cheshire.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/cheshire.jpg/)
Aww, that's not very nice. But very well done. Even if you still completely misunderstand my intent. I think I'm going to like it here. *stretches and yawn*
like some coffee?
and can I shit in it for you?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 05:09:41 AM
Aww, that's not very nice. But very well done. Even if you still completely misunderstand my intent. I think I'm going to like it here. *stretches and yawn*
Stop being an insufferable stuffed shirt.
(http://www.shift.jp.org/en/archives/2009/01/26/HE%20comes%20from%20the%20Sky%20or%20...%20may%20be%20the%20Sea%20...18.jpg)
it's not hypnosis. i dunno what you think you were trying to prove with the museumofhoaxes link, I suppose it's about the comments (cause the article just quotes a variation on your OP).
what I get from those comments is, that it's a question of motor skills and not belief. some of the people in those comments could do it right away, some couldnt even make a circle with their foot without moving their hand. the rest falling in between could with some concentration, pull it off or still fail.
i don't think it has anything to do with the supposed suggestive language you see in your picture.
so far the only evidence you've given it might be based on hypnosis is that 1) you think this is an extreme case of suggestive writing 2) you couldnt do it at first but as soon as you believed it was because the writing hypnosed you, you could do it.
problem is, you seem to be the only person with this experience.
so, you might say "guys I managed to hypnotize myself with this chain letter I received from the email", but we will still reply with :|
btw a fun thing to try for you would be, if it's really hypnosis (for you), you should be able to reverse it as well. believe it's really real and you can't circle your foot while making a 6 with your hand. go ahead, try it! it should be interesting! but please, don't feel the need to keep us informed about it, really, we dont care.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 18, 2009, 06:53:03 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 05:09:41 AM
Aww, that's not very nice. But very well done. Even if you still completely misunderstand my intent. I think I'm going to like it here. *stretches and yawn*
Stop being an insufferable stuffed shirt.
Or - how about I _be_ how I want to be - which includes, but is not limited to, not trying to dominate others with non-constructive put-downs and other forms of forum-wank? If that's how you get your kicks - fair enough. If it's not how you get your kicks, then why the fuck are you engaging in it?
Quote from: Squid on July 18, 2009, 05:57:55 AM
and can I shit in it for you?
See, that's funny. But I can't see what function it serves other than suggest quite plainly that you're happy being part of the mob-mind. The monkey-mob says the n00b hasn't been kicked enough, and you supply the foot. Well done. You should feel proud.
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 18, 2009, 10:31:03 AM
it's not hypnosis. i dunno what you think you were trying to prove with the museumofhoaxes link, I suppose it's about the comments (cause the article just quotes a variation on your OP).
what I get from those comments is, that it's a question of motor skills and not belief. some of the people in those comments could do it right away, some couldnt even make a circle with their foot without moving their hand. the rest falling in between could with some concentration, pull it off or still fail.
i don't think it has anything to do with the supposed suggestive language you see in your picture.
so far the only evidence you've given it might be based on hypnosis is that 1) you think this is an extreme case of suggestive writing 2) you couldnt do it at first but as soon as you believed it was because the writing hypnosed you, you could do it.
problem is, you seem to be the only person with this experience.
so, you might say "guys I managed to hypnotize myself with this chain letter I received from the email", but we will still reply with :|
btw a fun thing to try for you would be, if it's really hypnosis (for you), you should be able to reverse it as well. believe it's really real and you can't circle your foot while making a 6 with your hand. go ahead, try it! it should be interesting! but please, don't feel the need to keep us informed about it, really, we dont care.
Finally, an explanation. Thankyou Triple Zero, for your explanation. I don't think I would be the only person with this experience if I had presented it better. However, it does seem that appearing in the way I did has left an indelible first impression which no-one here can get themselves over - half the respondents seem to have concluded I was female with no prompting from myself - yet the general I-know-it-all mindset remains evident. If you can't get over that, then you certainly won't be able to get over the power-of-suggestion contained in the OP - you make it clear that the status-quo is to be desired - the elders decree it's physiological rather than psychological and no independent experimentation to contradict that occurs - fine, I'll let it drop for now.
Friends, neighbors,
if you spend any more time discussing this e-mail chain letter,
you have been trolled
newbie/troll: your style is too oppositional and the wounded newcomer bit is played out. It was a good gambit though! Go make another one and try again. :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on July 18, 2009, 01:24:37 PM
newbie/troll: your style is too oppositional and the wounded newcomer bit is played out. It was a good gambit though! Go make another one and try again. :lulz:
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish. If I did, I almost certainly wouldn't have the balls to try it in this court. And I almost certainly wouldn't do it in such a traceable (http://fictionpuss.livejournal.com/) manner (http://slashdot.org/~fictionpuss/), which could be used to inflict a thousand-times more pain on myself than my ham-fisted introduction may have caused others. From that you can extract my real name and address with less effort than it takes to scratch your ass. I'm genuine when I say I had something I thought might be of interest. I'm also genuine when I criticise the closed-mind group-think on this board as being part of the problem. My own innumerable flaws aside, of course.
Quickly! What's your opinion on Cartesian duality?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 18, 2009, 05:57:55 AM
and can I shit in it for you?
See, that's funny. But I can't see what function it serves other than suggest quite plainly that you're happy being part of the mob-mind. The monkey-mob says the n00b hasn't been kicked enough, and you supply the foot. Well done. You should feel proud.
Fuck, I just like shitting in coffee. So suck it.
And LOL Badge
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 18, 2009, 04:42:02 PM
Quickly! What's your opinion on Cartesian duality?
Um, both of your maps are nice? What's the hurry? If the test requires that I be at my keyboard all day, then I've already failed. If the test requires that I know the terms for specific concepts, then I've already failed. If the test is intended to show such a deficiency in my thinking, then I've failed already without effort on my part.
But in general, and after some unabashed googling, I am not awed by Descartes' constructs. Just because the mind _could_ be immaterial, does not make it so. The model does not inform the universe, and in the same sense, thinking is no proof of thought. All that really says is "I think therefore I think I am" (http://fictionpuss.livejournal.com/70842.html).
Despite some quite convincing conclusions that I came here to troll (and in the same sense, trolling is no proof of trollhood), my intent was and remains some form of illumination. If you can explain your insight, I would be most grateful.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.
Then this isn't gonna be your crowd. :lulz:
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I'm also genuine when I criticise the closed-mind group-think on this board as being part of the problem. My own innumerable flaws aside, of course.
Yeah, well, it works for us. We don't particularly care what you think or want.
Quote from: Squid on July 18, 2009, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 18, 2009, 05:57:55 AM
and can I shit in it for you?
See, that's funny. But I can't see what function it serves other than suggest quite plainly that you're happy being part of the mob-mind. The monkey-mob says the n00b hasn't been kicked enough, and you supply the foot. Well done. You should feel proud.
Fuck, I just like shitting in coffee. So suck it.
I'm guessing that you find that line more convincing than I do.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.
Then this isn't gonna be your crowd. :lulz:
I didn't say that it was without utility.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I'm also genuine when I criticise the closed-mind group-think on this board as being part of the problem. My own innumerable flaws aside, of course.
Yeah, well, it works for us. We don't particularly care what you think or want.
Then with all due respect, we have that in common. I'm not writing for you, I'm writing for the mind that is capable of taking leaps of independent thought and practising it often. Was the crowd completely right in their opinions about Hitler? Oh wait, I see what I did there. Thread over everyone!
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.
Then this isn't gonna be your crowd. :lulz:
I didn't say that it was without utility.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I'm also genuine when I criticise the closed-mind group-think on this board as being part of the problem. My own innumerable flaws aside, of course.
Yeah, well, it works for us. We don't particularly care what you think or want.
Then with all due respect, we have that in common. I'm not writing for you, I'm writing for the mind that is capable of taking leaps of independent thought and practising it often. Was the crowd completely right in their opinions about Hitler? Oh wait, I see what I did there. Thread over everyone!
he has seen the hive mind "oh noes" everybody run !!!!!!
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.
Then this isn't gonna be your crowd. :lulz:
I didn't say that it was without utility.
Trolling is not a tool, it is its own end.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I'm also genuine when I criticise the closed-mind group-think on this board as being part of the problem. My own innumerable flaws aside, of course.
Yeah, well, it works for us. We don't particularly care what you think or want.
Then with all due respect, we have that in common. I'm not writing for you, I'm writing for the mind that is capable of taking leaps of independent thought and practising it often. Was the crowd completely right in their opinions about Hitler? Oh wait, I see what I did there. Thread over everyone!
Yes, I have no independent thought. All of my ideas are beamed directly into my head by Iason, then I use my nefarious mind control rays to make everyone else here think the same way. No, really. We're like a hive, only without the honey.
Sorry we don't meet up with your high standards of "writing", ie, posting stupid fucking email forwards.
:whack:
But, please, hang around and try to prove to us how smart/wise/right you are. We're not going to use it to pummel you like a NASCAR wife. No, really.
This shit got old 2 years ago
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 18, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
This shit got old 2 years ago
This shit NEVER gets old. It's lkke having sacrificial victims line up outside my door.
BLOOD FOR THE RAIN GOD!
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I have no interest in trolling, for the most part I find it childish.
Then this isn't gonna be your crowd. :lulz:
I didn't say that it was without utility.
Trolling is not a tool, it is its own end.
You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
Yes, I have no independent thought. All of my ideas are beamed directly into my head by Iason, then I use my nefarious mind control rays to make everyone else here think the same way. No, really. We're like a hive, only without the honey.
Sorry we don't meet up with your high standards of "writing", ie, posting stupid fucking email forwards.
:whack:
But, please, hang around and try to prove to us how smart/wise/right you are. We're not going to use it to pummel you like a NASCAR wife. No, really.
It might be nice if I could prove something to myself - sure - but equally nice if I could be proved wrong on any point. Knowing only that I have delusions, not knowing which those are in particular.. if any of you could prove me wrong on any particular point then that would be an immense favour.
If pummelling is the only path left, if all appeals to reason fail, then that's the way it is.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.
Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme". Sometimes shit is just FUN. Remember fun? That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
It might be nice if I could prove something to myself - sure - but equally nice if I could be proved wrong on any point.
What fucking point? You posted a goddamn email forward like it was wisdom from the fucking sages.
Pseudo-intellectualism doesn't go far here. You might have better luck at the Church of Google. They're always spouting puerile nonsense and calling it "philosophy", etc.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.
Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme". Sometimes shit is just FUN. Remember fun? That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?
Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.
My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!
Now you're catching on. :wink:
I would recommend to LURK MOAR, for at least a few days. Read the threads at the top of the subforums (and make sure to get out of Apple Talk for a little while).
You might find this thread interesting, considering the subject you attempted to open discussion with:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=17671.0
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.
Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme". Sometimes shit is just FUN. Remember fun? That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?
Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.
My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!
Quit pretending you're smarter than we are.
:troll:
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 18, 2009, 08:30:55 PM
Quit pretending you're smarter than we are.
Nice try, but I'm not going to fall for any more of your (collective) trolling on this thread. Have at it.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
You'll have to explain that to me in dummy-talk before I get it. It's always seemed to me that closed-systems of thought further the meme, not the individuals who host it.
Not everything has to be about "furthering the meme". Sometimes shit is just FUN. Remember fun? That stuff you used to have before you became all serious about shit?
Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.
My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!
For someone who speaks so highly of intellectual curiousity, you seem to demonstrate a complete lack of awareness of the Pygmalion effect.
How bout we stop devoting any more time to this troll.
Quote from: The Pariah on July 18, 2009, 08:55:09 PM
How bout we stop devoting any more time to this troll.
He's the light, we're the moths.
My shit+ yuor coffee= ⊱✿♥BFF♥✿⊰
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 18, 2009, 08:30:55 PM
Quit pretending you're smarter than we are.
Nice try, but I'm not going to fall for any more of your (collective) trolling on this thread. Have at it.
I think you are a condescending asshole but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.
One thing I do when I want to overcome some inhibition is I narrate what I want to happen aloud to myself, "And so he overcame his anxiety and slowly drifted into a restful state of sleep" is generally the last thing I hear at night.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
I think you are a condescending asshole
I'll grant you that, without pause. It's simply a defence mechanism. Tends to make the other person angry enough such that I have room to score a tactical advantage. Would be better if I had complete control over it, but seemingly I can't yet have everything. It doesn't help that I find the whole process amusing. Even if it is a self-destructive behaviour pattern.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.
I know it's old - I gave up tracing it to 2005. The fact that it's a mindfuck which can be replicated in a few minutes, and presented to people who otherwise had no previous interest in mindfucks, or even the idea that they can switch their belief systems at will, does still make it interesting to me.. but I'll have to do more experimentation to see if giving permission to complete the exercise correctly neutralises the seeming physiological effect as reliably as it did with myself. I think it'd be neat to know of a simple quick mindfuck which works reliably on the "average person".
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
One thing I do when I want to overcome some inhibition is I narrate what I want to happen aloud to myself, "And so he overcame his anxiety and slowly drifted into a restful state of sleep" is generally the last thing I hear at night.
Thanks for the tip, I think I'll give it a try.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
I think you are a condescending asshole
I'll grant you that, without pause. It's simply a defence mechanism. Tends to make the other person angry enough such that I have room to score a tactical advantage. Would be better if I had complete control over it, but seemingly I can't yet have everything. It doesn't help that I find the whole process amusing. Even if it is a self-destructive behaviour pattern.
You are gaining no tactical advantage. Your are merely rabble rousing on the weekend when its normally quiet here and turning yourself into a target as opposed to posting stuff to be discussed. I mean continue if you want but it generally comes to a point where you drop the attitude and you can enjoy some great conversations from there on out and this site does have a lot of rewarding conversations to be had.
Or you can go down the other more well worn path, a predictable exercise in futility and unnecessary drama which will invariably end with you leaving.
You have shown some glimmers of potential so I am offering you some advice do with it what you will, I cant see there being much more from this point out.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 02:50:15 AM
You are gaining no tactical advantage.
It doesn't translate, so well, online.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 02:50:15 AM
Your are merely rabble rousing on the weekend when its normally quiet here and turning yourself into a target as opposed to posting stuff to be discussed. I mean continue if you want but it generally comes to a point where you drop the attitude and you can enjoy some great conversations from there on out and this site does have a lot of rewarding conversations to be had.
I would contest that a certain percentage of my attitude is simply me refusing "prison bitch" status, and returning attitude given to me, in kind. But you're right, it's not important, and I concede to your larger point.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 05:55:35 PM
If you can explain your insight, I would be most grateful.
it puts the lotion in the basket
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
No, really. We're like a hive, only without the honey.
but the statue is still around here somewhere i think
is this Rhombus's cousin??
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Pseudo-intellectualism doesn't go far here. You might have better luck at the Church of Google. They're always spouting puerile nonsense and calling it "philosophy", etc.
Oh come on, I just took a look, and that shit is retarded. Even for me.
I'd much rather be an insignificant fish in a big pond than a whale rotting in a puddle of piss.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 03:37:19 AM
I would contest that a certain percentage of my attitude is simply me refusing "prison bitch" status
Trust me, the best status you have to look forward to here is an ass polyp, get over yourself.
actually if you dont have another title by the time your an asshat/pope your a social outcast.
faust's got at least 10 titles, tahts why hes got that fancy turban
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 07:28:35 PM
Oh! God I'm thick. You've all been trolling me from the very first page haven't you? And it took me a whole 8 pages to figure it out - the joke is on me! No group of people could otherwise lack such intellectual curiousity, be unaware that they are robotic slaves to a meme and fail time and time again to respond to patient and clear explanations of simple concepts which any grade schooler could instantly grasp.
My hat goes off to you! What dedication to the craft you observe!
We are, after all, professionals.
Now, please explain to me what REALLY REAL DISCORDIANISM FOR REALNESS is. I mean, you are obviously so much more intelligent that we primates.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
I think you are a condescending asshole
I'll grant you that, without pause. It's simply a defence mechanism. Tends to make the other person angry enough such that I have room to score a tactical advantage. Would be better if I had complete control over it, but seemingly I can't yet have everything. It doesn't help that I find the whole process amusing. Even if it is a self-destructive behaviour pattern.
Tactical advantage? Okay, you win the internets. Aren't you special? :lulz:
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.
I know it's old - I gave up tracing it to 2005. The fact that it's a mindfuck which can be replicated in a few minutes, and presented to people who otherwise had no previous interest in mindfucks, or even the idea that they can switch their belief systems at will, does still make it interesting to me.. but I'll have to do more experimentation to see if giving permission to complete the exercise correctly neutralises the seeming physiological effect as reliably as it did with myself. I think it'd be neat to know of a simple quick mindfuck which works reliably on the "average person".
If that's your idea of a mindfuck, you should probably go join the Scientologists. They're more your speed.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
One thing I do when I want to overcome some inhibition is I narrate what I want to happen aloud to myself, "And so he overcame his anxiety and slowly drifted into a restful state of sleep" is generally the last thing I hear at night.
Thanks for the tip, I think I'll give it a try.
Suggestion: "...And then Fictionpuss drank Drano, and there was much rejoicing."
actually it was ajax
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 18, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
Pseudo-intellectualism doesn't go far here. You might have better luck at the Church of Google. They're always spouting puerile nonsense and calling it "philosophy", etc.
Oh come on, I just took a look, and that shit is retarded. Even for me.
I'd much rather be an insignificant fish in a big pond than a whale rotting in a puddle of piss.
No, they're actually smarter than you are. They at least know they're pretentious gasbags, and you still think you're here to teach us all how to be Discordians.
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on July 19, 2009, 04:16:06 AM
is this Rhombus's cousin??
My money is on Daruko (it's identical to his "Dove" troll), but that's a strong possibility, too.
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on July 19, 2009, 04:16:06 AM
is this Rhombus's cousin??
I already pointed him at IANAR's beautiful creation but I guess he didn't get the hint/
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 19, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on July 19, 2009, 04:16:06 AM
is this Rhombus's cousin??
I already pointed him at IANAR's beautiful creation but I guess he didn't get the hint/
My money is on it being Daruko. It's dumb enough, and we're overdue.
Nah, Daruko would have already outed himself by now.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 19, 2009, 08:55:40 AM
Nah, Daruko would have already outed himself by now.
Give it time. He lasted almost 3 days last time.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 19, 2009, 08:55:40 AM
Nah, Daruko would have already outed himself by now.
Give it time. He lasted almost 3 days last time.
Um, paranoia? Is the obvious truth, that I am just who I say I am, with the motivations I present, so boring that something fanciful needs to be invented in its place?
Unless you're just trolling me still? You're not going to hurt my feelings you know. Yes that is a challenge. If you take me up on it then you've just fallen victim to an obvious cards-on-the-table here-it-is counter-troll. Seriously, I'm not worth your time.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:23:01 AM
Now, please explain to me what REALLY REAL DISCORDIANISM FOR REALNESS is. I mean, you are obviously so much more intelligent that we primates.
If I've given you the impression that that was my intent, or if that indeed has any relevance, then that is obviously a flaw on my part.
I think I've hit a nerve, and for that I'm truly sorry.
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
I'm curious how much of this might be due to the Pygmalion effect - if newcomers who make a few mistakes are seen only in terms of reflections of what has come before, then can the newcomer be held completely responsible for the chaos which ensues?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:26:27 AM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:21:23 AM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:25 AM
but otherwise you were probably asking a genuine question. That email is as old as the hills at this stage and its not that interesting an effect. What you said about belief being the key to the ability to do it is a pretty straightforward concept. Look around and you will see some good stuff on mindfucking yourself.
I know it's old - I gave up tracing it to 2005. The fact that it's a mindfuck which can be replicated in a few minutes, and presented to people who otherwise had no previous interest in mindfucks, or even the idea that they can switch their belief systems at will, does still make it interesting to me.. but I'll have to do more experimentation to see if giving permission to complete the exercise correctly neutralises the seeming physiological effect as reliably as it did with myself. I think it'd be neat to know of a simple quick mindfuck which works reliably on the "average person".
If that's your idea of a mindfuck, you should probably go join the Scientologists. They're more your speed.
Well let me ask you a serious question for a moment - if you're trying to turn someone on for the cause, do you send them puppet-like through a series of pre-crafted mindfucks intended to land them at a predetermined perspective, or do you give them all of the tools as quickly as possible and assume that, the medium being the message, they'll come to similar conclusions as you already have?
This entire thread I've been under the assumption that, if anything, the interest to Discordians might be to turn it into one of many potential preliminary tools useful in the latter category above. So your assumption that I come here proclaiming that I have something/anything of vast importance to impart, or that I must think myself incredibly superior, is by definition false.
I mean yes, saying flatly to your face that you're wrong does initially seem to contradict what I write. But the difference is over something so incredibly tiny and trivial that it would be impossible for me to extract much meaning at all from it, if indeed I turned out to be correct.
a few mislaid assumptions:
-we're trying to turn you on for "the cause"
-several year old e-mail forwards are great topics to discuss
-if we don't agree with the previous point, it's because of some poison in our group dynamic
I hold
none of those assumptions.
Quote from: Cramulus on July 19, 2009, 03:28:51 PM
a few mislaid assumptions:
-we're trying to turn you on for "the cause"
It's apparent that I'm thought to be some secret agent "Daruku" - that would make me a lost-cause. But I have seen mention of the general principle of turning people on to a particular cause, I don't think I'm mistaken about that. The latter is the only cause I referenced.
Quote from: Cramulus on July 19, 2009, 03:28:51 PM
-several year old e-mail forwards are great topics to discuss
Again, no. I mean, the fact that it has survived in the meme-pool with several mutations for several years, does imply that it has some qualities which gave it that memetic fitness. If the study of such is pre-school level shit around here then I'm quite plainly hopelessly behind all of you.
Quote from: Cramulus on July 19, 2009, 03:28:51 PM
-if we don't agree with the previous point, it's because of some poison in our group dynamic
Until such time that I discover evidence to the contrary, or the example in question is patiently explained to me.. I am helpless to believe otherwise.
Since we're obviously just wasting each others time at this point, can I suggest that it might be easier to just give me the benefit of the doubt as I'm asking for, and let me prove myself (if such is required/cared about/infinite disclaimers) in other, more productive threads?
Who called it?
Rog?
I think you're right dude.
Sounds like Daruko.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
You're not going to hurt my feelings you know. Yes that is a challenge. If you take me up on it then you've just fallen victim to an obvious cards-on-the-table here-it-is counter-troll. Seriously, I'm not worth your time.
You mean I'd do
just what you expected me to do? :lulz:
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
Score at the end of this thread:
TGRR 5
Faust 0
Just saying.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 02:57:55 PM
Well let me ask you a serious question for a moment - if you're trying to turn someone on for the cause,
I'm not.
Quote from: Squid on July 19, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
Who called it?
Rog?
I think you're right dude.
Sounds like Daruko.
We were due.
Quote from: Squid on July 19, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
Who called it?
Rog?
I think you're right dude.
Sounds like Daruko.
So you're saying that there's nothing I can say or do which would prove to you otherwise, and you're _not_ falling victim to your own memes?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 19, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
Who called it?
Rog?
I think you're right dude.
Sounds like Daruko.
So you're saying that there's nothing I can say or do which would prove to you otherwise, and you're _not_ falling victim to your own memes?
Oh, your psychology is devastating! Now I doubt not only my own arguments, but my own existence!
:retard:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
You're not going to hurt my feelings you know. Yes that is a challenge. If you take me up on it then you've just fallen victim to an obvious cards-on-the-table here-it-is counter-troll. Seriously, I'm not worth your time.
You mean I'd do just what you expected me to do? :lulz:
No, dude, I've laid myself completely bare before you here. How can I say more plainly that we're at a rhetorical stalemate? We can continue this circle-jerk if you like, or we can explore common goals.
Your call.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
You're not going to hurt my feelings you know. Yes that is a challenge. If you take me up on it then you've just fallen victim to an obvious cards-on-the-table here-it-is counter-troll. Seriously, I'm not worth your time.
You mean I'd do just what you expected me to do? :lulz:
No, dude, I've laid myself completely bare before you here. How can I say more plainly that we're at a rhetorical stalemate? We can continue this circle-jerk if you like, or we can explore common goals.
Your call.
I'm down with "keep laughing as you try to spin 'posting an email forward' as a 'mindfuck'".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
No, dude, I've laid myself completely bare before you here. How can I say more plainly that we're at a rhetorical stalemate? We can continue this circle-jerk if you like, or we can explore common goals.
Your call.
I'm down with "keep laughing as you try to spin 'posting an email forward' as a 'mindfuck'".
If you believe that then you're not paying any attention, you're just trolling. I had expected more, in which case the mindfuck award goes to you, and the joke remains on me.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
No, dude, I've laid myself completely bare before you here. How can I say more plainly that we're at a rhetorical stalemate? We can continue this circle-jerk if you like, or we can explore common goals.
Your call.
I'm down with "keep laughing as you try to spin 'posting an email forward' as a 'mindfuck'".
If you believe that then you're not paying any attention, you're just trolling. I had expected more, in which case the mindfuck award goes to you, and the joke remains on me.
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
:hosrie:
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
that is exactly what everyone was saying to YOU about the original post of this thread :\
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on July 19, 2009, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
that is exactly what everyone was saying to YOU about the original post of this thread :\
Quote from: ✡ Rabbi ✡ Fred ✡ on July 19, 2009, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
that is exactly what everyone was saying to YOU about the original post of this thread :\
The circle is complete!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:25:53 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
Score at the end of this thread:
TGRR 5
Faust 0
Just saying.
Yatto
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:25:53 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
Score at the end of this thread:
TGRR 5
Faust 0
Just saying.
Yatto
I put him in my column.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
good
fuck off
fictionpuss. That your career on PD has come to this will, I am sure, have come as a surprise to many, not least your erstwhile smug and, as it turns out, disastrously complacent self. However, to those with a more rounded experience of your methods and morality, both the beneficiaries and the victims of your self-righteous and self-appointed crusading, it will remain a source of bed-wetting astonishment that it has taken so long for the hive mind to bring themselves to bear upon your arrogant and devious person.
You are, in the well-chosen words of our resident hate-shitters in describing your ilk, an unreconstructed wanker. To that one might add that you have infinitely more to say for yourself than your knowledge or experience could possibly justify, and that I have seldom found myself passing judgement on someone so evidently lacking the benefits of a damn good kicking.
You have thrust upon us your ill-informed, half-baked, out-dated and, frankly, paranoid theories for a tiresome number of posts now, and the wonder of it is that anyone continued to listen long enough for you to persist with the behaviour that has ultimately led to your downfall. I would remind you, fictionpuss, that paranoia is often merely the flipside of egotism: both deludedly imagine the world to revolve around oneself.
While your n00bish exploits have occasionally enjoyed vindication in the past, it should be evident to anyone remotely cognisant with the facts that your roles in certain notorious events have been grossly exaggerated by both posterity - which is often inexplicably kind to the self-aggrandising - and by your own indulgently biased accounts. No doubt you like to depict yourself as a thorn in the flesh of the establishment, but closer to the truth would be to say that you are merely an irritant, and that the subsequent rashes are far more the result of your unwanted presence than of any defect on the part of those you choose to infect.
In the case of someone so self-absorbed, it is perhaps plausible that certain developments may have escaped your notice; to wit, the inexorable evolution of this forums posts and the irrefutable testimony of the hive mind, which states, if you would take note, you are not welcome any more. Once upon a time, you found and to your credit exposed corruption and conspiracy among those of whom we expected better. Your problem, it strikes me, was that you did not know what to be about next. You have continued to seek out such nefariousness, but where you have not found it you have instead imagined it - and more insidiously, implied it. If I were you, I might wish to consider whether a man who finds corruption in every place he looks might perhaps be seeing the reflection of what lies within himself.
In the instance that has brought you before me, you arrogantly pitted yourself against an organisation far more august and enduring than the windmills at which you had tilted before; and though you were but a mosquito attacking an elephant, it cannot be ignored that this mosquito wished the elephant harm, and its bite may have done so had it not been swatted.
In short, fictionpuss, there is no place for you here in the future. This is a new Discordia, a new forum, with new standards and a new morality. I must not allow it or its institutions - nascent and ancient alike - to be disparaged and prejudiced by the diseased mind of a wee shite like you. For this reason, I order that you be taken from this board, henceforth to a place of confinement, there to dwell in perpetual fear of being chibbed and humped by rabid schemies.
:mittens:
Quote from: Payne on July 19, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
Once upon a time, you found and to your credit exposed corruption and conspiracy among those of whom we expected better.
I don't understand what you're talking about, this sentence in particular. I have no idea who "arifelis" or "daraku" or "dead kennedy" are - I didn't pay the accusations that I am a sock-puppet much heed as it seemed like random trolling - despite the common wisdom, I'm not interested in generating noise for the sake of it. But I suspect that you're referencing events that happened with them?
I mean, yes - I've responded in kind to the various tom-foolery thrown my way on _this_ thread - and mimicked the condescension I received - I thought that was part of the vibe here - should newbies not try to give as good as they get just because they are newbies? And yes, I mangled an introduction. But I have been genuine on all the other threads I've participated in since I joined - my contributions may not be great or mind-blowing, but they have been a genuine attempt to explore common goals and interest.
Now - if none of that matters, and if stripped of any association with these people whom I don't know - it remains quite simple to prove I'm not a sock-puppet - the judgement is still the same, then I'll abide by it, and wish you every luck with your endeavours.
EDIT: vvv - I guess I didn't make it clear: I am shutting up - this is the last you'll hear from me if the fact I am not a sock-puppet makes no difference
Why won't it shut up.
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Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Payne on July 19, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
Once upon a time, you found and to your credit exposed corruption and conspiracy among those of whom we expected better.
I don't understand what you're talking about, this sentence in particular. I have no idea who "arifelis" or "daraku" or "dead kennedy" are - I didn't pay the accusations that I am a sock-puppet much heed as it seemed like random trolling - despite the common wisdom, I'm not interested in generating noise for the sake of it. But I suspect that you're referencing events that happened with them?
I mean, yes - I've responded in kind to the various tom-foolery thrown my way on _this_ thread - and mimicked the condescension I received - I thought that was part of the vibe here - should newbies not try to give as good as they get just because they are newbies? And yes, I mangled an introduction. But I have been genuine on all the other threads I've participated in since I joined - my contributions may not be great or mind-blowing, but they have been a genuine attempt to explore common goals and interest.
Now - if none of that matters, and if stripped of any association with these people whom I don't know - it remains quite simple to prove I'm not a sock-puppet - the judgement is still the same, then I'll abide by it, and wish you every luck with your endeavours.
And...nobody gives a shit.
Quote from: Squid on July 19, 2009, 11:17:25 PM
Why won't it shut up.
It seems to think we give a fuck.
Do we give a fuck?
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: Payne on July 19, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
Once upon a time, you found and to your credit exposed corruption and conspiracy among those of whom we expected better.
I don't understand what you're talking about, this sentence in particular. I have no idea who "arifelis" or "daraku" or "dead kennedy" are - I didn't pay the accusations that I am a sock-puppet much heed as it seemed like random trolling - despite the common wisdom, I'm not interested in generating noise for the sake of it. But I suspect that you're referencing events that happened with them?
I mean, yes - I've responded in kind to the various tom-foolery thrown my way on _this_ thread - and mimicked the condescension I received - I thought that was part of the vibe here - should newbies not try to give as good as they get just because they are newbies? And yes, I mangled an introduction. But I have been genuine on all the other threads I've participated in since I joined - my contributions may not be great or mind-blowing, but they have been a genuine attempt to explore common goals and interest.
Now - if none of that matters, and if stripped of any association with these people whom I don't know - it remains quite simple to prove I'm not a sock-puppet - the judgement is still the same, then I'll abide by it, and wish you every luck with your endeavours.
EDIT: vvv - I guess I didn't make it clear: I am shutting up - this is the last you'll hear from me if the fact I am not a sock-puppet makes no difference
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 11:20:09 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 19, 2009, 11:17:25 PM
Why won't it shut up.
It seems to think we give a fuck.
Do we give a fuck?
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:25:53 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 19, 2009, 01:46:48 PM
an old nerve, the context behind this is for years now we have gotten a lot of people who act like complete know-it-alls coming in here who make horrible assumptions and every single one thinks its the first time we have ever been graced with their like.
Score at the end of this thread:
TGRR 5
Faust 0
Just saying.
Yatto
I put him in my column.
So you are saying you didn't give him shit when he registered?
I forgot to say it before but fuck you, I've stopped giving input or my opinion on the new people in any way since the last time you exploded at me when I unbanned impu.
I gave fictionpuss some advice, called him on being an asshole because he is an asshole and told him the outcome if he kept up his shit.
I don't care what happens to him, nor am I giving you or any other admins my opinion of the new people so as far as you are concerned Faust: 0 can stay that way forever.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 20, 2009, 12:03:20 AM
So you are saying you didn't give him shit when he registered?
I'm saying I'm still giving him shit now.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 20, 2009, 12:03:20 AM
I forgot to say it before but fuck you, I've stopped giving input or my opinion on the new people in any way since the last time you exploded at me when I unbanned impu.
Oh, okay. I thought that was over and done with, when I apologized to you. Apparently, this is not the case.
Tell you what, Faust...I see no further need for us to continue this or any other conversation unless it pertains to the running of the board.
Good day, and have a nice life.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 20, 2009, 12:06:22 AM
Oh, okay. I thought that was over and done with, when I apologized to you. Apparently, this is not the case.
Tell you what, Faust...I see no further need for us to continue this or any other conversation unless it pertains to the running of the board.
Good day, and have a nice life.
You brought it up again with the roger: 5 faust:0 dig. You apologized to me for blowing up at me and I thought that was it too but then I see this even after I have completely removed myself from anything involving the user base.
But fine if that's it then ok, you're writing has been one of the most influential in my life and If this is the last thing I say to you then I want it to be nice, I want you to know you have had a huge positive impact on my life.
Good day.
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on July 20, 2009, 12:13:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 20, 2009, 12:06:22 AM
Oh, okay. I thought that was over and done with, when I apologized to you. Apparently, this is not the case.
Tell you what, Faust...I see no further need for us to continue this or any other conversation unless it pertains to the running of the board.
Good day, and have a nice life.
You brought it up again with the roger: 5 faust:0 dig. You apologized to me for blowing up at me and I thought that was it too but then I see this even after I have completely removed myself from anything involving the user base.
But fine if that's it then ok, you're writing has been one of the most influential in my life and If this is the last thing I say to you then I want you to know you have had a huge positive impact on my life.
Good day.
I once knew this guy from Ireland, named Faust. Seemed like a decent enough guy, then one day I pissed him off. I apologized to him, not realizing that, to Faust, "accepting an apology" means "wait for a while and then slap you with it". Faust then waited til I made an unrelated comment referring to AKK, Daruko, Dead Kennedy, Cowass, and Yatto, then slipped the knife in.
Needless to say, I found no reason to speak to him ever again. And everybody lived happily ever after.
The End.
I thought you were referring to impu, which was two weeks ago and you apologized for, thats why I was surprised to see that you were putting dig at me. It doesn't matter I don't have the energy for this.
ITT: Fictionpuss has appeared to have won
Once, I thought there was a guy named Faust.
I was wrong.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 19, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
We've only been doing this for a week, dude. We don't know shit.
If you can't come up with something interesting/original, then I'm not going to play.
in all the forums and all the posts you had to walk into mine
Quote from: The Pariah on July 20, 2009, 12:25:28 AM
ITT: Fictionpuss has appeared to have won
He had better not.
Now you two boys quit that bickering and sit down and have a nice Manwich. Cause a sandwich is just a sandwich, but a Manwich is a meal.
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Quote from: Squid on July 20, 2009, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: The Pariah on July 20, 2009, 12:25:28 AM
ITT: Fictionpuss has appeared to have won
He had better not.
Now you two boys quit that bickering and sit down and have a nice Manwich. Cause a sandwich is just a sandwich, but a Manwich is a meal.
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There aren't two boys. Just me.
I am no longer going to do anything about pinealists, Great Teachers, or any other of the more odious forms of noobs.
Find someone else to be the sucker, PD. I'm restricting myself to new accounts, dealing with what few spam bots get past Cain, and flagrant violations of the few rules we have. I have no further interest in keeping the AKKs and DKs of the world from spewing wherever they please, provided they don't legally endanger the board, or attempt to crash it.
Goddamn infighting
not all of them just go FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
Well, I was close. I think I at least beat the spread.
The whole damn place is stuck on a broken record.
Did Benjamin turn the wheel again?
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 20, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
Well, I was close. I think I at least beat the spread.
you would probably have been right if the odds were 66% :)
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 20, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 20, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 17, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Okay, so, I'm putting down a wager of 50 imaginary dollars that this thread is 15 pages when I get back on Monday.
Well, I was close. I think I at least beat the spread.
you would probably have been right if the odds were 66% :)
I just need to use more madjickes.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on July 17, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
Yeah, sorry man, that's pretty old news. I think it's one of those games the phys ed teacher had us play in 6th grade.
Then can you tell me the punchline - why it works the way it does? It's a two part question I ask, the first being the initial post, but I can't ask the second without invalidating your answers to the first.
It doesn't work. At least, it does at first but then if you think about it you can go in opposite directions. It's just one of those concentration things.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 06:57:14 PM
Is there _anyone_ on this board with enough intellectual curiousity to try the experiment?
D000000D EVERYONE KNOWS THE PUNCHLINE
FUCKING GOOGLE IT OR SOMETHING
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22how+smart+is+your+right+foot%22%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 18, 2009, 01:21:33 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 18, 2009, 10:31:03 AM
it's not hypnosis. i dunno what you think you were trying to prove with the museumofhoaxes link, I suppose it's about the comments (cause the article just quotes a variation on your OP).
what I get from those comments is, that it's a question of motor skills and not belief. some of the people in those comments could do it right away, some couldnt even make a circle with their foot without moving their hand. the rest falling in between could with some concentration, pull it off or still fail.
i don't think it has anything to do with the supposed suggestive language you see in your picture.
so far the only evidence you've given it might be based on hypnosis is that 1) you think this is an extreme case of suggestive writing 2) you couldnt do it at first but as soon as you believed it was because the writing hypnosed you, you could do it.
problem is, you seem to be the only person with this experience.
so, you might say "guys I managed to hypnotize myself with this chain letter I received from the email", but we will still reply with :|
btw a fun thing to try for you would be, if it's really hypnosis (for you), you should be able to reverse it as well. believe it's really real and you can't circle your foot while making a 6 with your hand. go ahead, try it! it should be interesting! but please, don't feel the need to keep us informed about it, really, we dont care.
Finally, an explanation. Thankyou Triple Zero, for your explanation. I don't think I would be the only person with this experience if I had presented it better. However, it does seem that appearing in the way I did has left an indelible first impression which no-one here can get themselves over - half the respondents seem to have concluded I was female with no prompting from myself - yet the general I-know-it-all mindset remains evident. If you can't get over that, then you certainly won't be able to get over the power-of-suggestion contained in the OP - you make it clear that the status-quo is to be desired - the elders decree it's physiological rather than psychological and no independent experimentation to contradict that occurs - fine, I'll let it drop for now.
Have you considered asking a neurologist, instead of being all "LOOK GUYZ WHUT I FIGGERED OUT" on an internet forum?
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Quote from: Payne on July 19, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
fictionpuss. That your career on PD has come to this will, I am sure, have come as a surprise to many, not least your erstwhile smug and, as it turns out, disastrously complacent self. However, to those with a more rounded experience of your methods and morality, both the beneficiaries and the victims of your self-righteous and self-appointed crusading, it will remain a source of bed-wetting astonishment that it has taken so long for the hive mind to bring themselves to bear upon your arrogant and devious person.
You are, in the well-chosen words of our resident hate-shitters in describing your ilk, an unreconstructed wanker. To that one might add that you have infinitely more to say for yourself than your knowledge or experience could possibly justify, and that I have seldom found myself passing judgement on someone so evidently lacking the benefits of a damn good kicking.
You have thrust upon us your ill-informed, half-baked, out-dated and, frankly, paranoid theories for a tiresome number of posts now, and the wonder of it is that anyone continued to listen long enough for you to persist with the behaviour that has ultimately led to your downfall. I would remind you, fictionpuss, that paranoia is often merely the flipside of egotism: both deludedly imagine the world to revolve around oneself.
While your n00bish exploits have occasionally enjoyed vindication in the past, it should be evident to anyone remotely cognisant with the facts that your roles in certain notorious events have been grossly exaggerated by both posterity - which is often inexplicably kind to the self-aggrandising - and by your own indulgently biased accounts. No doubt you like to depict yourself as a thorn in the flesh of the establishment, but closer to the truth would be to say that you are merely an irritant, and that the subsequent rashes are far more the result of your unwanted presence than of any defect on the part of those you choose to infect.
In the case of someone so self-absorbed, it is perhaps plausible that certain developments may have escaped your notice; to wit, the inexorable evolution of this forums posts and the irrefutable testimony of the hive mind, which states, if you would take note, you are not welcome any more. Once upon a time, you found and to your credit exposed corruption and conspiracy among those of whom we expected better. Your problem, it strikes me, was that you did not know what to be about next. You have continued to seek out such nefariousness, but where you have not found it you have instead imagined it - and more insidiously, implied it. If I were you, I might wish to consider whether a man who finds corruption in every place he looks might perhaps be seeing the reflection of what lies within himself.
In the instance that has brought you before me, you arrogantly pitted yourself against an organisation far more august and enduring than the windmills at which you had tilted before; and though you were but a mosquito attacking an elephant, it cannot be ignored that this mosquito wished the elephant harm, and its bite may have done so had it not been swatted.
In short, fictionpuss, there is no place for you here in the future. This is a new Discordia, a new forum, with new standards and a new morality. I must not allow it or its institutions - nascent and ancient alike - to be disparaged and prejudiced by the diseased mind of a wee shite like you. For this reason, I order that you be taken from this board, henceforth to a place of confinement, there to dwell in perpetual fear of being chibbed and humped by rabid schemies.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Nigel's google link, first post dated - 2005 "Maybe it's been circulating for years" :lulz:
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Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on July 20, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 17, 2009, 06:57:14 PM
Is there _anyone_ on this board with enough intellectual curiousity to try the experiment?
D000000D EVERYONE KNOWS THE PUNCHLINE
FUCKING GOOGLE IT OR SOMETHING
we start a game
"how dumb can they get?"
lets play SINK! instead
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:fishhook:
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 12:29:38 AM
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:judge:
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 12:51:23 AM
we start a game
"how dumb can they get?"
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I like this better than incessant whining.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 21, 2009, 02:15:09 AM
I like this better than incessant whining.
He'll prove we're all wrong, one day. Just you wait.
I've never had a problem admitting I'm wrong. As long as, you know, I'm actually wrong...
snug?
Quote from: Squid on July 21, 2009, 05:47:53 AM
snug?
That picture looks quite snug to me.
But yeah, it's a fuckup. Gimp doesn't have a spellchecker in its text-entry box yet.
EDIT: And I can no-longer type for shit without a builtin spellchecker, obviously.
spellcheck wouldn't have mattered.
snug is a word, though the one i think you wanted was smug
Quote from: Squid on July 21, 2009, 07:49:42 AM
spellcheck wouldn't have mattered.
snug is a word, though the one i think you wanted was smug
Again, true. I guess I was more concerned about the the other words I spelt incorrectly without knowing it.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 21, 2009, 07:49:42 AM
spellcheck wouldn't have mattered.
snug is a word, though the one i think you wanted was smug
Again, true. I guess I was more concerned about the the other words I spelt incorrectly without knowing it.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
You're funny.
Wait, I don't get it.
I was able to circle my right foot clockwise while sketching the number 6 (i.e. circle my right hand counter clockwise) the very first time I tried it.
How is this a mindfuck?
BECAUSE THE WORDS ON THE EMAIL ARE HYPNOTISING YOU TO FAIL!
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
BECAUSE THE WORDS ON THE EMAIL ARE HYPNOTISING YOU TO FAIL!
LMNO was wearing a tinfoil hat at the time he read the email.
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
BECAUSE THE WORDS ON THE EMAIL ARE HYPNOTISING YOU TO FAIL!
Is that really what the last 15 pages has been about? That people don't bother with critical reading skills?
I think so, I'm not sure, I wasn't really paying attention.
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 21, 2009, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
BECAUSE THE WORDS ON THE EMAIL ARE HYPNOTISING YOU TO FAIL!
LMNO was wearing a tinfoil hat at the time he read the email.
Or LMNO
actually can't read. His secret is out.
QuoteIs that really what the last 15 pages has been about? That people don't bother with critical reading skills?
I'm pretty sure there was some other stuff about people who thought this thread was stupid being "owned by their memes" and "groupthink" but I got bored by that point and stopped paying attention.
Quote from: LMNO on July 21, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
BECAUSE THE WORDS ON THE EMAIL ARE HYPNOTISING YOU TO FAIL!
Is that really what the last 15 pages has been about? That people don't bother with critical reading skills?
Nah, that's what fictionpuss wanted the last 15 pages to be about. Most of it has actually been about poking him with sticks. :lulz:
Righto.
:sets thread on "ignore":
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Quote from: LMNO on July 21, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
Wait, I don't get it.
I was able to circle my right foot clockwise while sketching the number 6 (i.e. circle my right hand counter clockwise) the very first time I tried it.
How is this a mindfuck?
The mindfuck is that after you've read this, you will be wondering if you also had been able to do it
before you read about it
:judge:
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 21, 2009, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 21, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
Wait, I don't get it.
I was able to circle my right foot clockwise while sketching the number 6 (i.e. circle my right hand counter clockwise) the very first time I tried it.
How is this a mindfuck?
The mindfuck is that after you've read this, you will be wondering if you also had been able to do it before you read about it
:judge:
oicwutudidthar!
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 04:14:22 PM
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On this forum?
good luck
:lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 21, 2009, 05:12:10 PM
The mindfuck is that after you've read this, you will be wondering if you also had been able to do it before you read about it
You're looking too hard for something which isn't there.
If the whole universe of mindfucks were mapped out in increasing levels of sophistication, such that there's a myriad of simplistic MFs like "Be good or Santa won't come this year" near the bottom and more interesting MFs like "Horrible Truth" placed somewhere above that, then it was always my contention that what I ineptly presented would be near the bottom.
What I find most interesting is an examination whether those forwards are created by someone with full consciousness of what they are doing, or whether they just evolve that way. E.g. earlier versions didn't contain the reference to the surgeon - did a less successful version of the chain letter exist shortly before dying because it mentioned that it came from "my astrologer"?
Understanding all of this is key to potentially using the medium to communicate an intentional message. But if that is boring-as-shit to you, and you want to wrassle some more, then I'm game for that too.
Oh for the love of Shatner.
Move on to another subject would ya?
I keep waiting for something funny and I'm being disappointed here.
According to Google Image this is "something funny":
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But I honestly don't see it.
Quote from: Squid on July 21, 2009, 07:20:14 PM
Oh for the love of Shatner.
Move on to another subject would ya?
I keep waiting for something funny and I'm being disappointed here.
I'll keep asking that question till I get an answer. If you stop responding to this thread, I will too. Otherwise, you're complaining at yourself.
that picture is balls.
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this is appletalk, man. It's a notoriously hard subforum in which to host srs bsns discussion.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
Quote from: Squid on July 21, 2009, 07:20:14 PM
Oh for the love of Shatner.
Move on to another subject would ya?
I keep waiting for something funny and I'm being disappointed here.
I'll keep asking that question till I get an answer. If you stop responding to this thread, I will too. Otherwise, you're complaining at yourself.
What was the question again? I keep getting lost in all your abstract symbolism known as "the english language".
Quote from: Twilightgirl on July 21, 2009, 07:29:37 PM
this is appletalk, man. It's a notoriously hard subforum in which to host srs bsns discussion.
Ahh, that actually explains a lot. Thanks.
You're just figuring that out now???
YOu're pretty dumb for an enlightened dude.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 21, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
YOu're pretty dumb for an enlightened dude.
I came here for enlightenment, and I've already found some of what I'm looking for.
I know I'm dumb, repeating it only makes me dumber.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on July 21, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
YOu're pretty dumb for an enlightened dude.
I came here for enlightenment, and I've already found some of what I'm looking for.
I know I'm dumb, repeating it only makes me dumber.
Enlightenment is not found here. At best we're just gonna throw rocks at your sacred cows until you either enlighten yourself or go away. Generally, we prefer the former, but aren't opposed to the latter.
:lulz:
PD.com: Where we throw rocks at your sacred cows
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 21, 2009, 08:17:20 PM
Enlightenment is not found here. At best we're just gonna throw rocks at your sacred cows until you either enlighten yourself or go away. Generally, we prefer the former, but aren't opposed to the latter.
It would be awesome if you'd throw rocks at my sacred cows. I am actively trying to rid myself of as many delusions as possible. It would seem more accurate to say that it's mostly ad hominems though.
Currently, it appears to me that one of your sacred cows might be the belief that agreeing, adopting, and adapting other people's ideas into your own worldview is a bad thing.
Quote from: LMNO on July 21, 2009, 08:41:52 PM
Currently, it appears to me that one of your sacred cows might be the belief that agreeing, adopting, and adapting other people's ideas into your own worldview is a bad thing.
Additionally, admitting you're wrong about something.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 21, 2009, 08:17:20 PM
Enlightenment is not found here. At best we're just gonna throw rocks at your sacred cows until you either enlighten yourself or go away. Generally, we prefer the former, but aren't opposed to the latter.
It would be awesome if you'd throw rocks at my sacred cows. I am actively trying to rid myself of as many delusions as possible. It would seem more accurate to say that it's mostly ad hominems though.
An ad hominem would be something along the lines of:
You are an idiot and therefore your argument is stupid.That's not what is going on here... in fact its reversed:
Your arguments are vacuous and based on bad information, making you look like an idiot.Big difference.
As for your Cows... right now Your Opinion seems to be a pretty big Cow, at least in the way you present yourself in this forum. Your Opinion tends to be one of the most pernicious Cows and often sneaks in while we're busy patting ourselves on the back for getting rid of our Sacred Cows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni-WNpEfsjs
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 21, 2009, 05:12:10 PM
The mindfuck is that after you've read this, you will be wondering if you also had been able to do it before you read about it
You're looking too hard for something which isn't there.
It was a joke.
QuoteWhat I find most interesting is an examination whether those forwards are created by someone with full consciousness of what they are doing, or whether they just evolve that way.
they evolve that way.
even the best marketing/NLP guru scores a miss often enough. the most well-funded and well-researched viral campaigns flop often enough.
undoubtedly, less fail much less than some amateur kid trying to make an email prank.
but the first, high-skilled category is not in the business of making email pranks, and the kids are, and they succeed from time to time. the ones that reach you are just the successful ones, usually. well, for most people at least. if you're close to a birthplace of these viral memes, such as our GASM projects, you will probably notice disproportionally more shitty memes in a failed attempt to become viral.
but every once in a while, just like a viral marketing group, we hit gold and for example kill off a LOLCAT.
the answer to your question basically hinges on two factors. first is the enormously strong exponential component to these things. regardless of whether the originator was skilled or not, if a meme "hits", it's coverage and reach just explodes and the amount of people it reaches bears no relation anymore with the fact whether the originator was skilled or not.
second factor is simply that those people who are really skilled at it generally don't bother making viral emails just for the hell of it, without attempting some sort of memetic piggybacking to carry a message they want to spread. the fact that the thing you quoted doesn't have anything piggybacking on it means that either it was never there (and some kid copied it from a magazine possibly and started forwarding it) or that it has fallen off (which means it has evolved beyond its original construction).
QuoteBut if that is boring-as-shit to you, and you want to wrassle some more, then I'm game for that too.
no this subject is absolutely fascinating.
it just would have helped if you had started out with:
"I got this extremely simple example of a viral message here <IMG> and I would like to discuss it with you people. What do you think that makes it work?"
then you would have gotten much more friendly and helpful comments, and discuss your own theories:
"Might it be hypnosis? Because when I tried it this and this happened".
Instead, you just posted this image, and acted as if it was a brilliant mindfuck but we were all too dumb to see it. I promise you, we don't go much by postcount here, even a years-long member of PD would have gotten the same amount of shit for that. It's the "you're all too dumb for X" bit which ticks people off. There's always a smarter person here. Sometimes it surprises me.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 21, 2009, 04:14:22 PM
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Great idea. Bye, now.
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 22, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
Instead, you just posted this image, and acted as if it was a brilliant mindfuck but we were all too dumb to see it. I promise you, we don't go much by postcount here, even a years-long member of PD would have gotten the same amount of shit for that. It's the "you're all too dumb for X" bit which ticks people off.
Trolly Troll McTrollington.
LOL
Trolly McTrollerson from Trolltown
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 22, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
it just would have helped if you had started out with:
"I got this extremely simple example of a viral message here <IMG> and I would like to discuss it with you people. What do you think that makes it work?"
then you would have gotten much more friendly and helpful comments, and discuss your own theories:
"Might it be hypnosis? Because when I tried it this and this happened".
Instead, you just posted this image, and acted as if it was a brilliant mindfuck but we were all too dumb to see it. I promise you, we don't go much by postcount here, even a years-long member of PD would have gotten the same amount of shit for that. It's the "you're all too dumb for X" bit which ticks people off. There's always a smarter person here. Sometimes it surprises me.
Naw. Dipshit got lazy on his first post, and is now furiously trying to cover his tracks. He's too fucking stupid to admit he made a mistake, so he's projecting the stupidity onto everyone around him.
169% Fail. Not sure he's even a biped.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 22, 2009, 04:19:40 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 22, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
it just would have helped if you had started out with:
"I got this extremely simple example of a viral message here <IMG> and I would like to discuss it with you people. What do you think that makes it work?"
then you would have gotten much more friendly and helpful comments, and discuss your own theories:
"Might it be hypnosis? Because when I tried it this and this happened".
Instead, you just posted this image, and acted as if it was a brilliant mindfuck but we were all too dumb to see it. I promise you, we don't go much by postcount here, even a years-long member of PD would have gotten the same amount of shit for that. It's the "you're all too dumb for X" bit which ticks people off. There's always a smarter person here. Sometimes it surprises me.
Naw. Dipshit got lazy on his first post, and is now furiously trying to cover his tracks. He's too fucking stupid to admit he made a mistake, so he's projecting the stupidity onto everyone around him.
169% Fail. Not sure he's even a biped.
Hey now! I failed on more than just the first post. I've admitted my mistakes many times on this thread already.
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Quote from: fictionpuss on July 22, 2009, 04:33:59 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 22, 2009, 04:19:40 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 22, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
it just would have helped if you had started out with:
"I got this extremely simple example of a viral message here <IMG> and I would like to discuss it with you people. What do you think that makes it work?"
then you would have gotten much more friendly and helpful comments, and discuss your own theories:
"Might it be hypnosis? Because when I tried it this and this happened".
Instead, you just posted this image, and acted as if it was a brilliant mindfuck but we were all too dumb to see it. I promise you, we don't go much by postcount here, even a years-long member of PD would have gotten the same amount of shit for that. It's the "you're all too dumb for X" bit which ticks people off. There's always a smarter person here. Sometimes it surprises me.
Naw. Dipshit got lazy on his first post, and is now furiously trying to cover his tracks. He's too fucking stupid to admit he made a mistake, so he's projecting the stupidity onto everyone around him.
169% Fail. Not sure he's even a biped.
Hey now! I failed on more than just the first post. I've admitted my mistakes many times on this thread already.
Really? Because all I've seen is you explaining to us all how stupid we all are.
Asshole.
Quote from: fictionpuss on July 22, 2009, 06:06:26 AM
I play guitar with all the finesse of a coma patient reacting spasmodically to a cattleprod
:lulz:
:| :oops:
Ah, I'd been avoiding re-reading any of this.
Anyway I've been here for a year now, and strangely enough, I've never felt more "at home" in any corner of the internet than this one. I also have you spags to thank for helping me become twice as awesome as I was a year ago, although I'm still nowhere near half as awesome as I thought I was at that time.
I fear I may feel the exact same way this time next year :fnord:
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 17, 2010, 01:36:51 PM
twice as awesome as I was a year ago, although I'm still nowhere near half as awesome as I thought I was at that time.
I fear I may feel the exact same way this time next year :fnord:
that would be awesome.
:awesome:
Just found this thread. :lulz:
I will never be able to take Fictionpuss seriously ever again.
Good, because the fucker is dead and he's not coming back.
....wait, there was someone who took fictionpuss seriously?
Quote from: Captain Utopia on July 18, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
Good, because the fucker is dead and he's not coming back.
....wait, there was someone who took fictionpuss seriously?
No, but there used to be a miniscule possibility.
Bump for Freeky
:x