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Emo: Symptom of our Decay

Started by The Johnny, October 19, 2009, 11:16:04 AM

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The Johnny


I guess it's easy to stigmatize all these kids of the post-grunge era, these kids that were born, most likely in the 90's. But attempting to make sense of this visceral aversion to them...

Its important to notice what message they convey aesthetically...

visually: a skull here and there... lots of pink and purple... some black clothing... black nails... sweatshirts with built in hoodies... big vans shoes... tight pants... a piercing/tattoo here and there, but nothing too extreme... stars (and how!)...

musically: washed down rock, with nubile squeamish to angry voices (never forget the horror of screamo)... pseudo avant-garde artsy crap here and there... (ill leave you all to do your own research on lyrics)

So ok, what im getting to here is... their whole aesthetical expression is in a sense antisocial, but not enough to get them into too much of a big problem (lets call it a step beyond skater), but enough to express that they arent "Mainstream"...

That's an expression of discontent.

But this discontent with how things run in the world.... their opposition, their battle cry is REGRESSION

The world isnt going the way you like it? Fuck it, im gonna drown myself in retro videogames and whine.

Do you all think that the typical emo MyspaceTM picture, taken in a bathroom, with one hand holding the camera... right above their head is merely a random posture taht just stuck?

No, my interpretation is that they idealize themselves as children without care, with their avoidant pathologies... if an adult took a picture of a child, wouldnt it be a "from above" point of view, just as that typical pose they use?

How about all those retarded pictures with chicks wearing ballet tutus? Are all your men such faggots that you women have to resort to the most extreme expression of your gender role to think of yourselves as women ?

I hope you all drown in an ocean of plushies, stars and tears

You all disgust me.
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The Good Reverend Roger

MIGHTY RAGE!  BOO YAH!

On the other hand, whiny teenagers are nothing new.
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the other anonymous

Let's complain on the internet!

About people we don't like!

Come on, y'all! It'll be fun!

...

We got plushies!

-toa,
stars and tears are for furries

The Johnny


I know im preaching to the choir.

Besides, i think its good to not just stay within the visceral spite, but go beyond and understand exactly why-this-thing-that-evokes-so-is-doing-so.

I had a fun time writing that.  :lol:
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I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?
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the other anonymous

Quote from: JohNyx on October 20, 2009, 02:26:18 AM

I know im preaching to the choir.

Besides, i think its good to not just stay within the visceral spite, but go beyond and understand exactly why-this-thing-that-evokes-so-is-doing-so.

I had a fun time writing that.  :lol:

I had a fun time reading it. Maybe we can get together sometime and... transcribe.

The Johnny

Quote from: GA on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM
I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?

Well, given the fact that our "mexican culture" usually is what the waves bring from the gringo seas, and that movies arrive here 6-8 months after its released originally...

Who knows, maybe it was a current issue 5 years ago in the US of A but here its (PUN ALERT !) brooding.

<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Johnny

Quote from: the other anonymous on October 20, 2009, 02:49:26 AM

I had a fun time reading it. Maybe we can get together sometime and... transcribe.

seeing you run (?) a site full of essays, we could.

Would you be the guillements to my caret-exclamation?

<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Corvidia

Quote from: GA on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM
I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?
You live in Calipornia, yes? They're here, too, but sort of mesh with the hipsters, sort of. Like a hipster and a mall goth had a bastard child with drama queen tendencies.

They are, however, far fewer now than they were five years ago, yes. I think the emo bashings in Mexico in 2008 had something to do with it.

QuoteThe trio of long-haired teenagers grasped the plaza wall to shield their bodies as hundreds of youths kicked and punched them while filming the beating on cell phone cameras. "Kill the emos," shouted the assailants, who had organized over the Internet to launch the attack in Mexico's central city of Queretaro. After police eventually steamed in and made arrests, the bloody victims lay sobbing on the concrete waiting for ambulances while the mob ran through the nearby streets laughing and cheering.
One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

The Johnny

Quote from: Corvidia on October 20, 2009, 03:09:19 AM
Quote from: GA on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM
I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?
You live in Calipornia, yes? They're here, too, but sort of mesh with the hipsters, sort of. Like a hipster and a mall goth had a bastard child with drama queen tendencies.

They are, however, far fewer now than they were five years ago, yes. I think the emo bashings in Mexico in 2008 had something to do with it.

QuoteThe trio of long-haired teenagers grasped the plaza wall to shield their bodies as hundreds of youths kicked and punched them while filming the beating on cell phone cameras. "Kill the emos," shouted the assailants, who had organized over the Internet to launch the attack in Mexico's central city of Queretaro. After police eventually steamed in and made arrests, the bloody victims lay sobbing on the concrete waiting for ambulances while the mob ran through the nearby streets laughing and cheering.

Some people have categorized emos as if "a goth and a punk had a retarded child".

LMAO i had so forgotten about that. It was basicly a short lived alliance between goths and metal people to harass emos.

And btw, i used to live in that city when it happened. At least to me it was hilarious.

<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: JohNyx on October 20, 2009, 02:59:02 AM
Quote from: GA on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM
I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?

Well, given the fact that our "mexican culture" usually is what the waves bring from the gringo seas, and that movies arrive here 6-8 months after its released originally...

Who knows, maybe it was a current issue 5 years ago in the US of A but here its (PUN ALERT !) brooding.



Don't think we've forgiven you for Rico Suave.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

the other anonymous

Quote from: JohNyx on October 20, 2009, 03:04:40 AM
Quote from: the other anonymous on October 20, 2009, 02:49:26 AM

I had a fun time reading it. Maybe we can get together sometime and... transcribe.

seeing you run (?) a site full of essays, we could.

Would you be the guillements to my caret-exclamation?


Damn me! I start a good joke, then I lose inspiration half-way through.

Someone help me out: what's a good typography joke that sounds obscene/flirtatious?

-toa,
at a loss for... words

the other anonymous

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 03:27:33 AM
Quote from: JohNyx on October 20, 2009, 02:59:02 AM
Quote from: GA on October 20, 2009, 02:48:02 AM
I don't know any emo people.  Are they a regional phenomena or something?

Well, given the fact that our "mexican culture" usually is what the waves bring from the gringo seas, and that movies arrive here 6-8 months after its released originally...

Who knows, maybe it was a current issue 5 years ago in the US of A but here its (PUN ALERT !) brooding.



Don't think we've forgiven you for Rico Suave.

http://viddug.com/video.cfm/vid/2110998158

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

My ex used to be in an emo band:
http://www.myspace.com/starsoftrackandfield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_of_Track_and_Field

I actually really liked them, and am pissed that I can't listen to them anymore because of THE RAGE.
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The most annoying thing about emo isn't the kiddies who walk around dressing up like that, you'd have dumb kids doing it no matter what.  The most annoying thing about it is the rest of the fucks walking around calling anything and everything emo.
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