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Title: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
This is good, but the best part has to be Alec Baldwin's response.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/20/donald-trump-snl-baldwin-bias/

(http://proudemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tvit1.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on November 22, 2016, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
This is good, but the best part has to be Alec Baldwin's response.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/20/donald-trump-snl-baldwin-bias/

(http://proudemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tvit1.png)

Damn, Alec, that "try"  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 22, 2016, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
This is good, but the best part has to be Alec Baldwin's response.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/20/donald-trump-snl-baldwin-bias/

(http://proudemocrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tvit1.png)

Damn, Alec, that "try"  :lulz:

He cold af.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 22, 2016, 05:18:23 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/?utm_source=atlfbcomment

Quote"Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!"

That's how Richard B. Spencer saluted more than 200 attendees on Saturday, gathered at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C., for the annual conference of the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as "an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of  people of European descent in the United States, and around the world."

Spencer has popularized the term "alt-right" to describe the movement he leads. Spencer has said his dream is "a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans," and has called for "peaceful ethnic cleansing."

For most of the day, a parade of speakers discussed their ideology in relatively anodyne terms, putting a presentable face on their agenda. But after dinner, when most journalists had already departed, Spencer rose and delivered a speech to his followers dripping with anti-Semitism, and leaving no doubt as to what he actually seeks. He referred to the mainstream media as "Lügenpresse," a term he said he was borrowing from "the original German"; the Nazis used the word to attack their critics in the press.

"America was until this past generation a white country designed for ourselves and our posterity," Spencer said. "It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us."   

The audience offered cheers, applause, and enthusiastic Nazi salutes.

For extra lulz keep in mind that Trump's appointed senior counselor is Steve Bannon, former CEO of alt-right Breitbart News. These people are his people. Even if he doesn't consider himself one of them, his job involved pandering to and producing propaganda for them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on November 22, 2016, 09:00:47 PM
Also, SNL totally has given the insular (mostly white) liberal crowd a big poke in the ribs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOb-kmOgpI
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 22, 2016, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on November 22, 2016, 09:00:47 PM
Also, SNL totally has given the insular (mostly white) liberal crowd a big poke in the ribs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOb-kmOgpI

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 02, 2016, 07:54:33 PM
This guy is going to make it easy to laugh as the world burns.

http://time.com/4587069/donald-trump-pakistan-phone-call-nawaz-sharif/?xid=time_socialflow_twitter

QuoteThere are few foreign policy topics quite as complicated as the relationship between India and Pakistan, South Asia's nuclear-armed nemeses. Any world leader approaching the issue even obliquely must surely see the "Handle With Care" label from miles away, given the possibility of nuclear conflict.

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, however, doesn't seem to have read the memo, injecting a pronounced element of uncertainty about the position of the world's only remaining superpower on this most complex of subjects in a call with the Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

Donald Trump spoke with Pakistan's Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif via phone Wednesday. According to a readout of the conversation from the Pakistani authorities, he apparently agreed to visit the country and said he was "ready and willing to play any role that you want me to play to address and find solutions to the outstanding problems." He reportedly added: "You are a terrific guy. You are doing amazing work which is visible in every way."

The hilarity of his hyperbole aside, Trump's intervention could have serious consequences for both regional and global stability.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2016, 08:46:39 PM
This is the way the worlds ends
not with a bang but with a "believe me it's going to be great"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 09:29:44 PM
Nice piece here:
http://valadilenne.tumblr.com/post/153048664118/ive-been-thinking-a-lot-about-the-meeting-between

Full thing:

QuoteI've been thinking a lot about the meeting between Trump and Obama at the White House, and here's the thing.
Obama used to be a law professor. This is key.
Law school is so, so different from college.
In college, everyone expects there to be a "syllabus day," kind of a grace period where they can show up and get the lay of the land, figure out the bare minimum that they can get away with, the TA gives everyone their office hours, there's an introductory lecture, and everybody leaves a few minutes early to go take a nap or something. You do the bullshit assignments, you say something in class now and then to get your participation check mark, and figure out how badly you can do on the final and still pass.
But see, in law school, all the methodologies you've spent the last 17 years operating under go out the window. Day one of law school is you being thrown into the deep end of the pool—you've had a homework assignment for two weeks now, and it's to read the first 200 pages of your casebook. And now it's you and the teacher (who is usually as smug as Alex Trebek) gauging and assessing what you managed to absorb while you skimmed through all those pages of reading so you could hurry up and get to the other 150 pages of reading for your next period class, in front of 50 people who are all smarter than you. And if you fuck up, or you didn't do the reading, you are at the mercies of not just the professor, but the silent satisfied judgment of your peers.
Law school is hard, and it will make you feel stupid and tongue-tied and like you don't know anything and can't form an argument—because you don't, and you can't. Everybody there has had a 4.0 since birth. Everybody there was the smartest kid in their class, and you're all rabidly competing for a sliver of a chance at something down the road. It's petty, and savage, fiercely entrenched in a culture of formalities and ceremony, and exactly like Washington DC.
Yesterday when I was driving home, the NPR reporter talking about the Oval Office meeting mentioned that Trump had thought it was going to be a "getting to know you" type meeting, but that he was surprised when Obama stretched their talk out to 90 minutes before sending him along to the Capitol building where he met with congressional leaders for more lengthy meetings and stuff he didn't want to do.
And he hasn't even gotten to the actual job yet.

So think about that as we go into this.
Trump walked into the Oval Office like a two-pump-chump freshman thinking it was syllabus day, and what he got was the first day of law school, and he hadn't done the reading like everyone else had, and Professor Obama decided to put him in the hot seat.
This was Obama's chance for the most perfect revenge that would never be picked up on as revenge at all. He was gracious, polite—everything he needed to be for a peaceful transition and a good review from the press. And that would continue when the doors were closed, because that's the key. Not a Come to Jesus meeting, oh no. If Obama were smart—and he is very smart—he would have treated Trump like an equal, and brought the discussion to a level that assumes far more of Trump than anyone has so far. Assumes that he's an adult who's been paying attention. Statistics, esoteric minutiae about the executive branch procedure, economic growth numbers, labor figures, domestic policies, countries Trump has never even heard of, shit that would never in a million years have been in Trump's campaign soundbites or digestible summaries.
No way to escape. No aides to remember any of it for him. Just the two of them.
Because that's what would strike a precise chill into Trump. The thundering realization that he's woefully unprepared for the hard, boring, thankless reality of this, and Obama's version of a smooth transition won't and shouldn't include remedial civics.
That's what I saw when they shook hands and Trump stared at the floor instead of looking back into Obama's face. He's just figured out how little he knows about any of this.
And that should give you a small glow of satisfaction, because after those meetings, Trump definitely has the 1L Terror Shits. In January, the night sweats and insomnia will show up, but for these first few weeks—nothing but diarrhea and self-doubt. 

My emphasis, it looks like a pretty dead on assessment of that first meeting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2016, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 09:29:44 PM
Nice piece here:
http://valadilenne.tumblr.com/post/153048664118/ive-been-thinking-a-lot-about-the-meeting-between

Full thing:

QuoteI've been thinking a lot about the meeting between Trump and Obama at the White House, and here's the thing.
Obama used to be a law professor. This is key.
Law school is so, so different from college.
In college, everyone expects there to be a "syllabus day," kind of a grace period where they can show up and get the lay of the land, figure out the bare minimum that they can get away with, the TA gives everyone their office hours, there's an introductory lecture, and everybody leaves a few minutes early to go take a nap or something. You do the bullshit assignments, you say something in class now and then to get your participation check mark, and figure out how badly you can do on the final and still pass.
But see, in law school, all the methodologies you've spent the last 17 years operating under go out the window. Day one of law school is you being thrown into the deep end of the pool—you've had a homework assignment for two weeks now, and it's to read the first 200 pages of your casebook. And now it's you and the teacher (who is usually as smug as Alex Trebek) gauging and assessing what you managed to absorb while you skimmed through all those pages of reading so you could hurry up and get to the other 150 pages of reading for your next period class, in front of 50 people who are all smarter than you. And if you fuck up, or you didn't do the reading, you are at the mercies of not just the professor, but the silent satisfied judgment of your peers.
Law school is hard, and it will make you feel stupid and tongue-tied and like you don't know anything and can't form an argument—because you don't, and you can't. Everybody there has had a 4.0 since birth. Everybody there was the smartest kid in their class, and you're all rabidly competing for a sliver of a chance at something down the road. It's petty, and savage, fiercely entrenched in a culture of formalities and ceremony, and exactly like Washington DC.
Yesterday when I was driving home, the NPR reporter talking about the Oval Office meeting mentioned that Trump had thought it was going to be a "getting to know you" type meeting, but that he was surprised when Obama stretched their talk out to 90 minutes before sending him along to the Capitol building where he met with congressional leaders for more lengthy meetings and stuff he didn't want to do.
And he hasn't even gotten to the actual job yet.

So think about that as we go into this.
Trump walked into the Oval Office like a two-pump-chump freshman thinking it was syllabus day, and what he got was the first day of law school, and he hadn't done the reading like everyone else had, and Professor Obama decided to put him in the hot seat.
This was Obama's chance for the most perfect revenge that would never be picked up on as revenge at all. He was gracious, polite—everything he needed to be for a peaceful transition and a good review from the press. And that would continue when the doors were closed, because that's the key. Not a Come to Jesus meeting, oh no. If Obama were smart—and he is very smart—he would have treated Trump like an equal, and brought the discussion to a level that assumes far more of Trump than anyone has so far. Assumes that he's an adult who's been paying attention. Statistics, esoteric minutiae about the executive branch procedure, economic growth numbers, labor figures, domestic policies, countries Trump has never even heard of, shit that would never in a million years have been in Trump's campaign soundbites or digestible summaries.
No way to escape. No aides to remember any of it for him. Just the two of them.
Because that's what would strike a precise chill into Trump. The thundering realization that he's woefully unprepared for the hard, boring, thankless reality of this, and Obama's version of a smooth transition won't and shouldn't include remedial civics.
That's what I saw when they shook hands and Trump stared at the floor instead of looking back into Obama's face. He's just figured out how little he knows about any of this.
And that should give you a small glow of satisfaction, because after those meetings, Trump definitely has the 1L Terror Shits. In January, the night sweats and insomnia will show up, but for these first few weeks—nothing but diarrhea and self-doubt. 

My emphasis, it looks like a pretty dead on assessment of that first meeting.

I haven't seen Trump smile since just before it became clear he was going to win.

In his meeting with Obama, he honestly looked like he wanted to die.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Considering the way the job ages you, it's a strong possibility he'll die in office. Possibly in the first year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
Considering the way the job ages you, it's a strong possibility he'll die in office. Possibly in the first year.

It can't age him if he doesn't pay attention.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
I suspect he'll be forced to pay attention at some point. At the least the dreaded media is going to be attacking him on all fronts so he'll be paying attention to that, if nothing else. He already can't handle being the butt of SNL jokes and that's about as tame as it's going to get. 6 months in and he'll be trying to get rid of comedy directed at him in it's entirety. Probably using a "you MUST respect the dignity of the office" line.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 02, 2016, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2016, 08:46:39 PM
This is the way the worlds ends
not with a bang but with a "believe me it's going to be great"

The greatest ever! Of all time!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 02, 2016, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
I suspect he'll be forced to pay attention at some point. At the least the dreaded media is going to be attacking him on all fronts so he'll be paying attention to that, if nothing else. He already can't handle being the butt of SNL jokes and that's about as tame as it's going to get. 6 months in and he'll be trying to get rid of comedy directed at him in it's entirety. Probably using a "you MUST respect the dignity of the office" line.

Why would he do that when his responses to comedy about him allow him to completely dominate the news cycle with a single tweet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 02, 2016, 11:29:51 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
I suspect he'll be forced to pay attention at some point. At the least the dreaded media is going to be attacking him on all fronts so he'll be paying attention to that, if nothing else. He already can't handle being the butt of SNL jokes and that's about as tame as it's going to get. 6 months in and he'll be trying to get rid of comedy directed at him in it's entirety. Probably using a "you MUST respect the dignity of the office" line.

He's just going to shit up his feed, RWHN-style.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 11:51:17 PM
It will start that way but it'll be more bro nihilism by this time next year.

I'd bet your claws on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 03, 2016, 12:12:25 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 02, 2016, 11:51:17 PM
It will start that way but it'll be more bro nihilism by this time next year.

I'd bet your claws on it.

Ya can't just go and bet another void-crab's claws on things. It's not good for the book!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on December 04, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/29/donald-trumps-candidate-for-homeland-security-mich/

Quote"We certainly hope that Donald Trump would not reward a deceptive pro-amnesty lawmaker like Michael McCaul with a Cabinet position," said William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC. "That would be very disappointing to all of us that believed his campaign promises to secure our borders and deport millions of illegal immigrants under current U.S. laws."


Aww, poor baby. It often seems like Trump doesn't really have any specific plans, he's just going from one thing to the next, impulsively making choices and hating Alec Baldwin. However long Trump, or we all, last, it's going to be funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 04, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
I really hope Balwdin comes out with something like "Release your taxes and I'll stop doing that impression of you".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 04, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
And then just keeps in doing the impression any way because fuck you if you can't take a joke. Best possible outcome.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 05, 2016, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 04, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
I really hope Balwdin comes out with something like "Release your taxes and I'll stop doing that impression of you".

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/Inb0tZuR5MV2WZMwzr0F1XpJJ1E=/950x534/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F306402%2Ftrump-twitter-alec-baldwin.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 05, 2016, 12:32:30 AM
The question now is, should I use this gift for good or evil?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 05, 2016, 12:36:00 AM
I suppose good.

The next speech detailing a trump appointment will be interrupted by pictures of one of the current nominees feltching a goat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 05, 2016, 02:26:42 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 05, 2016, 12:32:30 AM
The question now is, should I use this gift for good or evil?

How is that even a question?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2016, 02:56:55 PM
Split per request.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on December 07, 2016, 06:35:34 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/06/news/tillerson-trump-secretary-state-exxonmobil/index.html?sr=fbpol120616tillerson-trump-secretary-state-exxonmobil0531PMVODtopLink&linkId=32020922


QuoteLast year, the New York Attorney General launched an investigation into whether Exxon withheld information about the risks of climate change. Both the SEC and NY AG are also probing Exxon's accounting methods, focusing on whether the company should have lowered the value of its oil and gas resources given the crash in energy prices.


Awesome. Gonna drain that swamp, fill it up with oil.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 07, 2016, 08:04:17 PM
Some words of wisdom from Larry the Cable Guy:

http://rare.us/story/larry-the-cable-guy-has-a-strong-message-for-all-the-trump-naysayers/


tl;dw: Big ego = leadership skills. Don't support Trump? You must be a narcissistic sociopath who hates America.

Also, praise Drunk White Jesus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 08, 2016, 01:22:36 AM
All I know is that if shit is this funny before the dance has even started, it's going to get really funny once the music starts.

AND I DANCE DANCE DANCE AND I DANCE DANCE DANCE
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 09, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
QuotePresident-elect Donald Trump picked Linda McMahon, former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, to serve as the administrator of the Small Business Administration, his transition announced Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/07/politics/linda-mcmahon-picked-to-be-small-business-administrator/index.html

QuoteShe's donated $6 million in August and September to Rebuilding America Now, a super PAC that supported Trump's presidential bid.


"Once you're his friend, he is loyal to the end," she said. "He's an incredibly loyal, loyal friend."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 09, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 09, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
QuotePresident-elect Donald Trump picked Linda McMahon, former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, to serve as the administrator of the Small Business Administration, his transition announced Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/07/politics/linda-mcmahon-picked-to-be-small-business-administrator/index.html

QuoteShe's donated $6 million in August and September to Rebuilding America Now, a super PAC that supported Trump's presidential bid.


"Once you're his friend, he is loyal to the end," she said. "He's an incredibly loyal, loyal friend."

Oh the fences he'll mend, oh the Medicare he'll spend,
will President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend.

Oh the tweets he will trend, oh such laws to be penned,
by President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 09, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
Oh the supreme court to bend with consequence unintend, will be placed in the hands of ill portend,
By president trump, our loyal,loyal friend.

So many celebrities to berate, and greed you cannot shake, with such cronyism! So great!
From our loyal, loyal mate.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 09, 2016, 02:53:35 PM
Oh what yuge business he'll perfectly do
What simple minds do his small words screw
This brassy, unclassy Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

What vile profits will he bloody raise
Will he sell us all out just for empty praise
That hollow, wallowing Trump, our loyal, loyal friend
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 09, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
QuotePresident-elect Donald Trump picked Linda McMahon, former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, to serve as the administrator of the Small Business Administration, his transition announced Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/07/politics/linda-mcmahon-picked-to-be-small-business-administrator/index.html

QuoteShe's donated $6 million in August and September to Rebuilding America Now, a super PAC that supported Trump's presidential bid.


"Once you're his friend, he is loyal to the end," she said. "He's an incredibly loyal, loyal friend."

Appointing his largest donors to cabinet positions, go figure.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2016, 03:32:58 PM
America for sale! Get your fresh hot America here!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 09, 2016, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 09, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
QuotePresident-elect Donald Trump picked Linda McMahon, former CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment, to serve as the administrator of the Small Business Administration, his transition announced Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/07/politics/linda-mcmahon-picked-to-be-small-business-administrator/index.html

QuoteShe's donated $6 million in August and September to Rebuilding America Now, a super PAC that supported Trump's presidential bid.


"Once you're his friend, he is loyal to the end," she said. "He's an incredibly loyal, loyal friend."

Appointing his largest donors to cabinet positions, go figure.  :lulz:

Which is exactly the kind of thing Mr. The Cable Guy was insinuating would be beneath trump, because... um... ego... something, something... leadership... something, something... sacrifice... GO LOOK IN THUH MEER AN THANK ABOWCHEE KUNTREE FER ONCE IN YER LIFE!!!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 09, 2016, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 09, 2016, 03:32:58 PM
America for sale! Get your fresh hot America here!

I'll take two Americas and a side of Atlantic islands. Do you take unsecured checks?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 09, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

Wouldnt it be poetic of George Takeis life was tail ended by internment camps?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 09, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

Remember when he said "I disavow and I condemn" about the neo-nazi shitshow a week or so ago?

So... you can't literally do either unless you have authority over a thing.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 09, 2016, 08:40:56 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 09, 2016, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

Wouldnt it be poetic of George Takeis life was tail ended by internment camps?

:kingmeh:
No. Just tragic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 09, 2016, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

I think that's the start of the bannon influence on show. Reference previous leaders and hope the question changes somehow.

He's going to be calling pol pots work programs lazy in a week or so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 10, 2016, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 09, 2016, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2016, 08:23:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?utm_term=.63280fe40854


HAHAHAHAAAAIIIIIEEEEE

I think that's the start of the bannon influence on show. Reference previous leaders and hope the question changes somehow.

He's going to be calling pol pots work programs lazy in a week or so.

The article is a year old, so yeah, that would be Bannon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 10, 2016, 12:34:26 AM
I didn't even catch that, but the comment still stands perfectly. Has anyone got a solid date on the start of bannon's involvement? I'm assuming it's at least 18 months or so now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 10, 2016, 12:38:54 AM
QuoteOh the fences he'll mend, oh the Medicare he'll spend,
will President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend.

Oh the tweets he will trend, oh such laws to be penned,
by President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

Oh the supreme court to bend with consequence unintend, will be placed in the hands of ill portend,
By president trump, our loyal,loyal friend.

So many celebrities to berate, and greed you cannot shake, with such cronyism! So great!
From our loyal, loyal mate.

Oh what yuge business he'll perfectly do
What simple minds do his small words screw
This brassy, unclassy Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

What vile profits will he bloody raise
Will he sell us all out just for empty praise
That hollow, wallowing Trump, our loyal, loyal friend
Quote

I am also unreasonably happy with this. Has the makings of a good kids book. Note to self, get in references to tango, satsumas, sunbeds and lard.


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 10, 2016, 12:40:48 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 10, 2016, 12:38:54 AM
QuoteOh the fences he'll mend, oh the Medicare he'll spend,
will President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend.

Oh the tweets he will trend, oh such laws to be penned,
by President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

Oh the supreme court to bend with consequence unintend, will be placed in the hands of ill portend,
By president trump, our loyal,loyal friend.

So many celebrities to berate, and greed you cannot shake, with such cronyism! So great!
From our loyal, loyal mate.

Oh what yuge business he'll perfectly do
What simple minds do his small words screw
This brassy, unclassy Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

What vile profits will he bloody raise
Will he sell us all out just for empty praise
That hollow, wallowing Trump, our loyal, loyal friend
Quote

I am also unreasonably happy with this. Has the makings of a good kids book. Note to self, get in references to tango, satsumas, sunbeds and lard.

Noted :)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 12, 2016, 01:34:52 AM
After minutes of strenuous thought, trump has appeared to realize that draining swamps it damaging to the ecosystem. New plan seems to be make the swamp great again by adding toxic shit.

This is how you fix America folks, repaying one dodgy favour at a time.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2016, 01:50:33 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satsuma

What did you mean by satsumas exactly Junkie? I could work in the fruit, but a slimy snail one ain't out of the question.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 12, 2016, 10:37:54 AM
Why not both? If the shoe fits and all that...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2016, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 12, 2016, 10:37:54 AM
Why not both? If the shoe fits and all that...

Actually the fruit fits particularly well as a symbol. Its a Japanese breed of Mandarin orange that is noted for having very loose, easy to break and peel skin.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 12, 2016, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 10, 2016, 12:38:54 AM
QuoteOh the fences he'll mend, oh the Medicare he'll spend,
will President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend.

Oh the tweets he will trend, oh such laws to be penned,
by President Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

Oh the supreme court to bend with consequence unintend, will be placed in the hands of ill portend,
By president trump, our loyal,loyal friend.

So many celebrities to berate, and greed you cannot shake, with such cronyism! So great!
From our loyal, loyal mate.

Oh what yuge business he'll perfectly do
What simple minds do his small words screw
This brassy, unclassy Trump, our loyal, loyal friend

What vile profits will he bloody raise
Will he sell us all out just for empty praise
That hollow, wallowing Trump, our loyal, loyal friend
Quote

I am also unreasonably happy with this. Has the makings of a good kids book. Note to self, get in references to tango, satsumas, sunbeds and lard.

Oh what snail-slime skin is on this dude
Like a satuna, but not fit even as French food
This orange saggy, baggy Trump our loyal, loyal friend

Dipped in lard and left in a sunbed
Is the look of the face on that fat head
It only takes one to tango for this Trump our loyal, loyal friend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 13, 2016, 03:01:19 AM
Oh, shit. That was not the tango I meant. Will dig up relevant links but I was thinking of the luminous orange soft drink with the as campaign that involved people being slapped in the face.

It's a subtle but important difference.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 14, 2016, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 13, 2016, 03:01:19 AM
Oh, shit. That was not the tango I meant. Will dig up relevant links but I was thinking of the luminous orange soft drink with the as campaign that involved people being slapped in the face.

It's a subtle but important difference.

Uh... you're going to have to eat it on re-engineering costs friend. I demand pentuple my initial costs and an extra fee amounting to 5.23% of the bill IN ADDITION for research into this other tango, given that I must judge a beverage by flavor to properly art with it as words.

A pleasure doing business with you sir!  :)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 15, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Guess who trump has picked for Energy Secretary. It's.... uh... oh, what's his name? I forget.

Oops.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 15, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Guess who trump has picked for Energy Secretary. It's.... uh... oh, what's his name? I forget.

Oops.

Yeah, there's no way THAT isn't going to be a shitshow.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 15, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 15, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Guess who trump has picked for Energy Secretary. It's.... uh... oh, what's his name? I forget.

Oops.

Yeah, there's no way THAT isn't going to be a shitshow.  :lulz:

And it's just a small part of what's sure to be The Greatest Shitshow on Earth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2016, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 15, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
Guess who trump has picked for Energy Secretary. It's.... uh... oh, what's his name? I forget.

Oops.

So much for "eco-fascism".   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 16, 2016, 01:05:33 AM
See 46. Dodgy favours require dodgy paybacks. Will be fun to see if the senate confirms the entire shitshow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38336272

QuoteThe White House has suggested Russian President Vladimir Putin was directly involved in a hacking operation aimed at interfering with the US election.
Ben Rhodes, adviser to President Barack Obama, said that Mr Putin maintains tight control on government operations, which suggests that he was aware.
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest added that it was "pretty obvious" that Mr Putin was involved.

Quote"Everything we know about how Russia operates and how Putin controls that government would suggest that, again, when you're talking about a significant cyber intrusion like this, we're talking about the highest levels of government," Mr Rhodes said.
"And ultimately, Vladimir Putin is the official responsible for the actions of the Russian government."

QuoteThe NBC report, which cited two unnamed senior officials, said the hacking campaign began as a "vendetta" against Mrs Clinton before becoming "an effort to show corruption in American politics and split off key American allies".

Those crazy democrats.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38325364

Quoteenior US Republican senator Lindsey Graham has said his campaign email account was hacked by Russians.
Sen Graham also told CNN that he believed "the Russians" hacked into the Democratic National Committee, and accused them of trying to "destabilise democracy all over the world".

QuoteSen Graham, a member of the powerful Senate Armed Services Committee, said on CNN that "we were told by the FBI in August that we were hacked in June".
"I do believe the Russians hacked into the [DNC]. I do believe they hacked into [John] Podesta's email account. They hacked into my campaign account," he said.
He also said that he believed that "all the information released publicly hurt Clinton and didn't hurt Trump."

It seems reasonable to assume that who-ever did this also has access to any/all trump accounts. He just doesn't strike you as the kind of guy with secure passwords, does he? So the question for me is what's kicking around in there? Surely more than enough to keep him compliant if he isn't on friendly terms with Russia. The other interesting question is what docs do US intel agencies hold on trump? Again, I'm betting more than enough to keep him compliant. That, or we'll see some hilarious leaks.


On a lighter note, here's the simplified version of future foreign and domestic policy, trump appears around the ten second mark in case you miss him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8zGNe7Ebg

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 19, 2016, 10:01:40 PM
Turns out most of the faithless electors are ones who were supposed to vote for Clinton, and are instead casting their votes for Colin Powell, et al.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2016, 12:46:02 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/22/506629695/trump-team-asks-state-dept-to-name-those-working-on-gender-equality?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2050
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 23, 2016, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2016, 12:46:02 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/22/506629695/trump-team-asks-state-dept-to-name-those-working-on-gender-equality?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2050

Let's hope they get balls like the EPA and tell Trump to go fuck himself.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2016/1213/Department-of-Energy-refuses-to-reveal-names-of-climate-scientists-to-Trump
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2016, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 23, 2016, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2016, 12:46:02 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/22/506629695/trump-team-asks-state-dept-to-name-those-working-on-gender-equality?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2050

Let's hope they get balls like the EPA and tell Trump to go fuck himself.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2016/1213/Department-of-Energy-refuses-to-reveal-names-of-climate-scientists-to-Trump

Betting they will, actually.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 24, 2016, 07:46:56 PM
Just re-watching "the producers". Just wanted to note that "Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the nazi party" should have been an election slogan this year. I'm somewhat surprised it wasn't.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 01, 2017, 03:16:31 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 24, 2016, 07:46:56 PM
Just re-watching "the producers". Just wanted to note that "Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and join the nazi party" should have been an election slogan this year. I'm somewhat surprised it wasn't.

The whole election was like some kind of post-modern reimagining of The Producers where the play-within-a-play (Springtime For Hitler being here represented by Republican fascism) bled into the frame story (corresponding to Hillary's "pied piper" gambit)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 01, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
Read all about it!! Shocking admission!! Proud Dad lets slip that it was Barron who hacked the DNC!!

"I don't care what they say, no computer is safe," [tRumpf] added. "I have a boy who's 10 years old; he can do anything with a computer." NYTimes Dec 31 last year

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 03, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
It's worth mentioning that Betsy DeVos (Our new secretary of education) is Eric Prince's sister.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2017, 02:42:37 AM
Apparently, Trump thinks being president is a 40 hour/week job.

"My first day is Monday."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 03:35:14 AM
This is the same Trump who criticised Obama for playing too much golf and describes himself as a workaholic?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 03:36:18 AM
Obviously the best time to get up to any international chicanery will be this weekend.  America's ambassadors and other top officials are being made to quit as soon as Trump is sworn in as President, and there will be no direction from the White House either.

Just saying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2017, 04:23:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2017, 03:36:18 AM
Obviously the best time to get up to any international chicanery will be this weekend.  America's ambassadors and other top officials are being made to quit as soon as Trump is sworn in as President, and there will be no direction from the White House either.

Just saying.

This is gonna be hilarious.  Like the Mount Pelee eruption.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 04:35:48 AM
Nobody could have forseen...

I'm just glad you've wrested the "dumbest advanced nation" crown from our heads yet again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2017, 04:50:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2017, 04:35:48 AM
Nobody could have forseen...

I'm just glad you've wrested the "dumbest advanced nation" crown from our heads yet again.

It's back where it belongs.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 19, 2017, 02:26:15 PM
Don't start celebrating yet. We currently have some unelected idiot running around in a tartan clown costume explaining to everyone how leaving the european union and staying in it are the same thing.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 19, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2017, 04:35:48 AM
Nobody could have forseen...

I'm just glad you've wrested the "dumbest advanced nation" crown from our heads yet again.

It really just makes sense that we should be at the forefront of the collapse of civilization.

We are an World Leader.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2017, 06:46:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 19, 2017, 02:26:15 PM
Don't start celebrating yet. We currently have some unelected idiot running around in a tartan clown costume explaining to everyone how leaving the european union and staying in it are the same thing.  :lulz:

We have 21 hours til Trumpland.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 19, 2017, 07:13:23 PM
It occurs to me that I stopped writing about Tucson, so Tucson started writing about itself all over you guys.  Containment has been breached.  You have no chance to survive.  Make your time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
CNN is reporting that US intelligence officials believe North Korea is preparing a ballistic missile test for the first days or weeks of a Trump administration.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 19, 2017, 11:31:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
CNN is reporting that US intelligence officials believe North Korea is preparing a ballistic missile test for the first days or weeks of a Trump administration.

Ancient Wisdom
QuoteIn case of nuclear emergency
                  Stay calm
                       Loosen tight clothing
                            Put your head between your knees
                                and Kiss your ass goodbye

I remember this shit from last time round. Hey kids you are now living in the shadow of the bomb, just like us baby boomers did when we were young. Isn't it fun when stuff recycles like this?


eta: CNN? The false news channel? Hmmmm
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2017, 11:46:48 PM
Well lets be fair here, they're acting as stenographers for the intelligence services in this case.

That said, some specialist scholars on North Korea and the South Korean intelligence services have been saying the same thing for a couple of weeks now, that Pyongyang is gearing up for another display of military and engineering ineptitude prowess.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Goddess Eris on January 20, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
President Drumpf, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:44:51 PM
I watched the whole thing.  Including Trump signing 12 pieces of legislation he hasn't read, with Paul Ryan standing next to him grinning like something out of the deep sea.

It was all sort of like having an angry and bored carnival barker announce the final solution.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 20, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 20, 2017, 10:44:51 PM
I watched the whole thing.  Including Trump signing 12 pieces of legislation he hasn't read, with Paul Ryan standing next to him grinning like something out of the deep sea.

It was all sort of like having an angry and bored carnival barker announce the final solution.

At least some folks got free pens out of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html

I keep thinking "the media has to grow a spine and start fucking them back", but then I remember who owns the media.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 22, 2017, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html

I keep thinking "the media has to grow a spine and start fucking them back", but then I remember who owns the media.

Yeah. The whole point of the Fourth Estate being the pillar of democracy is that it has to be, yanno, Free. When it starts to become the mouthpiece of a couple of fascist billionaires all bets are off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html

I keep thinking "the media has to grow a spine and start fucking them back", but then I remember who owns the media.

Yeah, that's a huge part of the problem. There are good reasons why people don't trust the media, so instead they've just started believing any stream of noise that fits their preferred worldview. Actual journalism has been more or less replaced by facebook memes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 22, 2017, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html

I keep thinking "the media has to grow a spine and start fucking them back", but then I remember who owns the media.

Yeah, that's a huge part of the problem. There are good reasons why people don't trust the media, so instead they've just started believing any stream of noise that fits their preferred worldview. Actual journalism has been more or less replaced by facebook memes.

Interesting observation but not a well formed point and it is certainly one that needs addressing atm. My 2 penceworth - The media can only ever be as good as the quality of its reading public. And if that sounds elitist well sue me. What it looks like to me (and is implied in your post) is that people are so thin skinned that they can't accept any "truth" that doesn't fit their pre-conceptions. As a result they are searching through any dustbin or dark alley for the right flavour of truth, one that smells right to them.

Oh and just an FYI. Stuff from the NYTimes is behind a paywall so a brief highlight or two would be handy, if possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2017, 03:26:30 PM
Don't know nothin' bout no paywall. It was just a video of the press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amz62uUYPeo
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 22, 2017, 04:26:10 PM
Thanks. I didn't bother clicking the NYT link 'cos I've already had my 6 free articles for this month. I hadn't bothered to watch the Spicerclasm but wow just Wow. Where did they drag that guy up from? Mind you if someone gave me a script full of lies and BS and pushed me out in front of the Washington media I think I might babble and stumble over my words a bit too.
I hope this isn't paywalled but this is a Guardian take on it. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/sean-spicer-inauguration-groucho-marxist-asking-us-not-believe-our-own-eyes
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 04:33:36 PM
Spicer is also getting trolled to all shit on Twitter.  Calling him this generation's Baghdad Bob was one of the kinda comments I saw.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 22, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
Jesus, that press conference with Sean Spicer stammering about inauguration turnout and the lying media lying about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004886429/white-house-press-secretary-slams-media.html

I keep thinking "the media has to grow a spine and start fucking them back", but then I remember who owns the media.

Yeah, that's a huge part of the problem. There are good reasons why people don't trust the media, so instead they've just started believing any stream of noise that fits their preferred worldview. Actual journalism has been more or less replaced by facebook memes.

It's looking more and more like the 19th century. http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2016/017497/news-evolution
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 04:41:41 PM
We even have the modern equivalent of snake oil salesmen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 06:03:14 PM
"Alternative facts."   :lulz:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/22/kellyanne-conway-says-donald-trumps-team-has-alternate-facts-which-pretty-much-says-it-all/?utm_term=.87be7bfcf4b3

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 06:26:06 PM
I wonder how seriously this will be taken?

http://www.salon.com/2017/01/21/this-week-in-donald-trumps-conflicts-of-interest-he-violated-the-emoluments-clause-at-noon-friday/

QuoteTrump may like to brag about mastering the art of the deal (which he didn't write), but the emoluments clause of the Constitution is not negotiable.

"A president is not permitted to receive cash and other benefits from foreign governments," Norman Eisen, former special counsel on ethics and government reform to President Barack Obama, said on NPR Thursday. "And yet, Donald Trump is getting a steady flow of them around the world and right here in the United States."

In case you think Eisen is speaking from some dastardly liberal bias, the former chief ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, Richard Painter, has the same opinion. "The president needs to focus on protecting the United States and American interests in a very dangerous world," Painter said. "I really hope that President Trump takes the steps he needs to, to be free of conflict of interest in that endeavor."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Well, depends on how quickly the Republicans pass their agenda, or how big the backlash is.

Current theory is that the Republicans are going to use Trump to pass most of their most wanted agenda, then let him implode and kick him to the curb so that President Pence's much safer (and larger) hands are on the steering wheel.  Maybe the Democrats would do it in 2018 if they retook the House and Senate...but that's going to take a lot of work, and I think they're also worried about any impeachment process which doesn't also snag Pence.  They may be playing wait and see with the intelligence service's investigations into the Russia links of Trump's campaign...if they can implicate Pence in that too, then I think it may happen.

Of course, you'll notice neither of these options involve people actually enforcing the law on the books as they should, only when it's politically expedient for them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Well, depends on how quickly the Republicans pass their agenda, or how big the backlash is.

Current theory is that the Republicans are going to use Trump to pass most of their most wanted agenda, then let him implode and kick him to the curb so that President Pence's much safer (and larger) hands are on the steering wheel.  Maybe the Democrats would do it in 2018 if they retook the House and Senate...but that's going to take a lot of work, and I think they're also worried about any impeachment process which doesn't also snag Pence.  They may be playing wait and see with the intelligence service's investigations into the Russia links of Trump's campaign...if they can implicate Pence in that too, then I think it may happen.

Of course, you'll notice neither of these options involve people actually enforcing the law on the books as they should, only when it's politically expedient for them.

Who's next up if Pence is also impeached?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:40:00 PM
The Speaker of House takes on the role, I believe.

This of course could be Paul Ryan's own double game against Pence and Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 22, 2017, 10:50:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:40:00 PM
The Speaker of House takes on the role, I believe.

This of course could be Paul Ryan's own double game against Pence and Trump.

If Ryan manages that I will be impressed, even if I hate that guys guts. I mean, way to make the best out of a bad situation. For himself anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 10:51:01 PM
At least Paul Ryan has a plan.

It might be a terrible plan, but it's a plan nonetheless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
If nothing else, the next 6-18 months are going to make it very clear where everyone's alleigances lie.  Trump doesn't have a power base and hasn't played the game...he's dead meat and he doesn't even know it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 11:01:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
If nothing else, the next 6-18 months are going to make it very clear where everyone's alleigances lie.  Trump doesn't have a power base and hasn't played the game...he's dead meat and he doesn't even know it.

I hope this is as funny as it looks like it's going to be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2017, 11:02:49 PM
Paul Ryan is the guy behind the agenda to eliminate the ACA, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and Planned Parenthood.

But at least Sauron has a plan.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 22, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
If nothing else, the next 6-18 months are going to make it very clear where everyone's alleigances lie.  Trump doesn't have a power base and hasn't played the game...he's dead meat and he doesn't even know it.

I think it'd be worth all this just to see Trump get ousted and humiliated. Ryan's rough, but it seems like he's the type that's easier to counter because he has a plan and certain interests. Trump really only has his own interests and is too unpredictable to counter, clearly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Please on January 22, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
If nothing else, the next 6-18 months are going to make it very clear where everyone's alleigances lie.  Trump doesn't have a power base and hasn't played the game...he's dead meat and he doesn't even know it.

I think it'd be worth all this just to see Trump get ousted and humiliated. Ryan's rough, but it seems like he's the type that's easier to counter because he has a plan and certain interests. Trump really only has his own interests and is too unpredictable to counter, clearly.

If we can get the damn voters off their asses, we can re-take Congress in 2018, and even if Ryan ends up in office we'll be able to lame duck him until 2020. Problem is, there's a good long stretch before 2018. Well, and the other problem is that an awful  lot of voters seem to have no idea how politics work or why midterm elections are important.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 23, 2017, 03:06:11 AM
sweet fucking Jesus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 23, 2017, 04:48:18 AM
At least Ryan's got a plan.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/586?r=13
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2017, 05:09:29 PM
My gut feeling is Trump and the GOP are just going to keep fucking Democrats up, the rest of us will suffer for it. I have no idea what nixing the TPP was supposed to do, but it damn well is going to pull in leftists into thinking, "Well, shucks, let's make the best of this thing."

I really wish history lessons in US schools had been more thorough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 09:09:30 PM
Trumpster froze all environmental regulation changes in the works, which means that even though we'd like to ##-elided-## because environmental conditions are more favorable this year, we can't. This scenario is playing out at agencies all over the country.

Sad trombone.

EDIT: Turns out that was not yet public knowledge. If you read it, please forget it. I left the dots intact, I'm just not allowed to connect them for you.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 24, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
It's going to be so fun when civilization grinds to a halt!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
Trump just reversed the DAPL executive order.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 24, 2017, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
Trump just reversed the DAPL executive order.



He threw Keystone XL in there too, for good measure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 25, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
My knowledge of USA politics is mostly gleaned from TV and movies, but I seem to recall people saying the presidency is mostly a figurehead position and doesn't have tons of power. Please someone tell me that's true.

Please?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 25, 2017, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 25, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
My knowledge of USA politics is mostly gleaned from TV and movies, but I seem to recall people saying the presidency is mostly a figurehead position and doesn't have tons of power. Please someone tell me that's true.

Please?

That was the intention behind the office. It wasn't until Andrew Jackson came alone and decided this final check in the system of government needed to Also be the masthead for what it means to be American. He turned it from a clerical and military position to that of an interchangeable secular monarchist, more or less, IMO.

And now, with the executive powers established during the Bush era, and even though they decried executive power abuses by Obama who didn't invent them but made good use,  Trump now has the ability to make very serious and consequential decisions.

For example, the executive order that will prevent funding to any organization that even uses the word "abortion" OR pushing the Dakota Pipeline through.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:50:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 25, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
My knowledge of USA politics is mostly gleaned from TV and movies, but I seem to recall people saying the presidency is mostly a figurehead position and doesn't have tons of power. Please someone tell me that's true.

Please?

Sadly, not anymore. Let me give you a sense of what we're dealing with; what Nixon was impeached for isn't even illegal anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 12:54:33 AM
Quote from: Shifty on January 25, 2017, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 25, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
My knowledge of USA politics is mostly gleaned from TV and movies, but I seem to recall people saying the presidency is mostly a figurehead position and doesn't have tons of power. Please someone tell me that's true.

Please?

That was the intention behind the office. It wasn't until Andrew Jackson came alone and decided this final check in the system of government needed to Also be the masthead for what it means to be American.

And now, with the executive powers established during the Bush era, and even though they decried executive power abuses by Obama who didn't invent them but made good use,  Trump now has the ability to make very serious and consequential decisions.

For example, the executive order that will prevent funding to any organization that even uses the word "abortion" OR pushing the Dakota Pipeline through.

Andrew Jackson, America's racist golden boy. What poetry there is that he opened the door for so many of Trump's upcoming abuses!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 01:07:50 AM
Trump has signed an executive order extremely increasing vetting procedures against people from a variety of Middle Eastern states.  Extra measures for refugees are set to be announced at a later date.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2017, 02:56:53 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 25, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
My knowledge of USA politics is mostly gleaned from TV and movies, but I seem to recall people saying the presidency is mostly a figurehead position and doesn't have tons of power. Please someone tell me that's true.

Please?

He doesn't, not really.  At least not in this case.  However, he is the puppet of Ryan & Co, and the office of the president has ceased to exist aside from being a rubber stamp for everything Ryan and McConnell ever fapped about.

Instead of thinking of an out of control president, think of an evil congress with no brakes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:41:19 AM
He totes gonna declare martial law on Chicago:

(http://www.vladtv.com/images/size_fs/video_image-464162.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 04:59:56 AM
Really, today has just been a fuckfestival of Trumpshittery.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 25, 2017, 05:06:50 AM
...Jesus...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Trump's considering bringing back CIA black-sites.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:06:28 PM
For those who want a link https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html

QuoteThe Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas "black site" prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.

President Trump's three-page draft order, titled "Detention and Interrogation of Enemy Combatants" and obtained by The New York Times, would also undo many of the other restrictions on handling detainees that Mr. Obama put in place in response to policies of the George W. Bush administration.

If Mr. Trump signs the draft order, he would also revoke Mr. Obama's directive to give the International Committee of the Red Cross access to all detainees in American custody. That would be another step toward reopening secret prisons outside of the normal wartime rules established by the Geneva Conventions, although statutory obstacles would remain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:20:50 PM
OK, so some real talk for a minute here.

The attempts to make protest illegal and investigation into so-called voter fraud, while worrying on their own, are all about voter suppression.  The GOP is demographically fucked.  I know it, you know it, they know it, even Trump (probably knows it).  White men and the rich are not a winning coalition in a multicultural state with vast wealth disparities.

However, you slap everyone determined to go against you with felony charges, then rig the system to "prevent voter fraud", you can wipe out huge chunks of opposing votes.  That's what this is about.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 25, 2017, 08:27:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:20:50 PM
OK, so some real talk for a minute here.

The attempts to make protest illegal and investigation into so-called voter fraud, while worrying on their own, are all about voter suppression.  The GOP is demographically fucked.  I know it, you know it, they know it, even Trump (probably knows it).  White men and the rich are not a winning coalition in a multicultural state with vast wealth disparities.

However, you slap everyone determined to go against you with felony charges, then rig the system to "prevent voter fraud", you can wipe out huge chunks of opposing votes.  That's what this is about.

Right. If protesting is taken away or severely punished, the only method of action left is the vote. By the time 2018 rolls around, will left votes matter? My guess would be no.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 08:40:43 PM
Extreme gerrymandering since 2010 helped to make sure they didn't matter this time around.  I think the aim is to now ensure that the vote disparity isn't so big...losing by over 3 million votes and still getting the Presidency is a bad look. It raises questions about democratic legitimacy (the EIU yesterday downgraded the USA to a "flawed democracy"). If I'm correct, we will see the disparity drop in 2020, assuming Trump lasts that long, but in terms of absolute numbers Trump won't be winning any more people over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 09:01:45 PM
Yay, secret prisons and voter disenfranchisement!

Yep, totally exactly like $hillary would have done, no difference at all.

No difference.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
One of our PD friends is currently arguing with someone who thinks Hillary is literal fascist and that if Trump does anything illegal the courts will overrule it.

I may have laughed at him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 25, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
One of our PD friends is currently arguing with someone who thinks Hillary is literal fascist and that if Trump does anything illegal the courts will overrule it.

I may have laughed at him.

Wowwwww

Oh wow

I mean, in some ways I have to admire that he doesn't let mere reality hold him from embracing his convictions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 25, 2017, 11:53:09 PM
So Trump is basically going through the list of whatever Obama changed and reversing it out of spite. FMW.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 26, 2017, 12:28:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc)  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 01:42:58 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/25/511572169/epa-scientists-work-may-face-case-by-case-review-by-trump-team-official-says?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170125

And

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/24/journalists-charged-felonies-trump-inauguration-unrest

And maybe a little bit of this

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/25/511469982/hiring-freeze-and-obamacare-repeal-could-clobber-veterans-affairs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170125
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2017, 01:44:29 AM
Just to emphasize that first one, scientists at the EPA will need to pass any work they do through censors before it can be distributed in any way.

To include peer review.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 05:06:11 AM
With regards to "voter fraud", just to prove my point...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trumps-punitive-voter-fraud-investigation/514424/

QuoteSpicer's answer was stunning.

"There's a lot of states that we didn't compete in where that's not necessarily the case," he said. You look at California and New York, I'm not sure that those statements were—we didn't look at those two states in particular ... I think when you look at where a lot of places where a lot of these issues could have occurred in bigger states, that's where I think we're going to look."

Here's a shorter way to put that: Spicer is saying that Trump will target only states that voted Democratic for his investigation of fraud.

As my colleague Emma Green laid out yesterday in detail, there's simply no basis for the claim of massive fraud. Activists who push the claim like to say that the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but repeated investigations, over the course of years, have failed to produce any proof. When the George W. Bush administration spent five years looking for fraud in the 2000s, they came back with effectively nothing. This makes progressives look at warnings about voter fraud as just a pretext for voter suppression: Once the public is made to believe there's widespread fraud, it will support strict voting laws that require photo ID to vote, restrict early voting, and more. Those laws happen to disproportionately affect minorities, students, the poor, and other demographics that vote overwhelmingly Democratic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 26, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2017, 05:06:11 AM
With regards to "voter fraud", just to prove my point...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trumps-punitive-voter-fraud-investigation/514424/

QuoteSpicer's answer was stunning.

"There's a lot of states that we didn't compete in where that's not necessarily the case," he said. You look at California and New York, I'm not sure that those statements were—we didn't look at those two states in particular ... I think when you look at where a lot of places where a lot of these issues could have occurred in bigger states, that's where I think we're going to look."

Here's a shorter way to put that: Spicer is saying that Trump will target only states that voted Democratic for his investigation of fraud.

As my colleague Emma Green laid out yesterday in detail, there's simply no basis for the claim of massive fraud. Activists who push the claim like to say that the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but repeated investigations, over the course of years, have failed to produce any proof. When the George W. Bush administration spent five years looking for fraud in the 2000s, they came back with effectively nothing. This makes progressives look at warnings about voter fraud as just a pretext for voter suppression: Once the public is made to believe there's widespread fraud, it will support strict voting laws that require photo ID to vote, restrict early voting, and more. Those laws happen to disproportionately affect minorities, students, the poor, and other demographics that vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

This, on a smaller scale, is what got Trump into office. Well, that and the Shillary criminal emails exactly the same as Trump monkeyscreeching.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 26, 2017, 05:44:59 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/sanctuary-cities/

This is interesting because it shows:
1. An executive order can be wholly stupid and impractical and just sort of peter out.
2. This one doesn't exactly do what the label might have you believe.
Quote"I'm curious to see exactly what he does in terms of this defunding of sanctuary cities because it doesn't make sense from a legal standpoint or a political standpoint," Torrey said.

It seems more for show than anything else.

As for the wall, I find it incredibly hard to imagine the GOP passing $15+ billion dollar legislation. Even with the most ardent, fervent right-wing whako base, this party must balk at such a huge price tag.

I could definitely be wrong about that.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 06:08:49 PM
I think Trump's victory should put to rest the lie that the Republican Party cares more about fiscal responsibility than it does about being racist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 26, 2017, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: Salty on January 26, 2017, 05:44:59 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/sanctuary-cities/

This is interesting because it shows:
1. An executive order can be wholly stupid and impractical and just sort of peter out.
2. This one doesn't exactly do what the label might have you believe.
Quote"I'm curious to see exactly what he does in terms of this defunding of sanctuary cities because it doesn't make sense from a legal standpoint or a political standpoint," Torrey said.

It seems more for show than anything else.

As for the wall, I find it incredibly hard to imagine the GOP passing $15+ billion dollar legislation. Even with the most ardent, fervent right-wing whako base, this party must balk at such a huge price tag.

I could definitely be wrong about that.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-leaders-back-at-least-12-billion-for-border-wall-153042941.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 07:25:31 PM
Trump just purged the State Department

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/top-state-department-officials-asked-to-leave-by-trump-administration/index.html?sr=fbCNN012617top-state-department-officials-asked-to-leave-by-trump-administration0635PMStoryLink&linkId=33814262

QuoteWashington (CNN)Two senior administration officials said Thursday that the Trump administration told four top State Department management officials that their services were no longer needed as part of an effort to "clean house" at Foggy Bottom.

Patrick Kennedy, who served for nine years as the undersecretary for management, Assistant Secretaries for Administration and Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Joyce Anne Barr, and Ambassador Gentry Smith, director of the Office for Foreign Missions, were sent letters by the White House that their service was no longer required, the sources told CNN.

All four, career officers serving in positions appointed by the President, submitted letters of resignation per tradition at the beginning of a new administration.
The letters from the White House said that their resignations were accepted and they were thanked for their service.

The White House usually asks career officials in such positions to stay on for a few months until their successors are confirmed.

"Any implication that that these four people quit is wrong," one senior State Department official said. "These people are loyal to the secretary, the President and to the State Department. There is just not any attempt here to dis the President. People are not quitting and running away in disgust. This is the White House cleaning house."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on January 26, 2017, 08:21:15 PM
That's what I get for hope.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
So, Trump has said he is going to get America to pay for building the wall, and make Mexico reimburse it.

Mexico has said "lol no", and called off a meeting with Trump in protest.

Trump has said today that he will pass a 20% import tax on all Mexican goods to pay for the wall.  Presumably, none of his advisers have explained to him how this is, yet again, making Americans pay for the wall.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
Some people have also mentioned that to pass such a tariff, the US would have to leave NAFTA
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 26, 2017, 10:10:04 PM
It might also lead to leaner times for some Americans since:
QuoteSuch a tax would most affect the price of agricultural goods, as Mexico is the United States's second-largest supplier of such imports, mostly including fresh vegetables and fruits, wine and beer, snack foods, and other processed goods.
todays Daily Beast
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 10:13:07 PM
3rd largest overall trade partner, so you can bet it would hit American exports as well, with retaliatory tariffs
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 11:27:43 PM
Alex Jones is claiming he's been given a White House press pass.  Just fucking kill me already.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/sandy-hook-truther-alex-jones-brags-his-infowars-conspiracy-site-cleared-to-attend-white-house-briefings/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 26, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
So, Trump has said he is going to get America to pay for building the wall, and make Mexico reimburse it.

Mexico has said "lol no", and called off a meeting with Trump in protest.

Trump has said today that he will pass a 20% import tax on all Mexican goods to pay for the wall.  Presumably, none of his advisers have explained to him how this is, yet again, making Americans pay for the wall.

This is basically how Phantom Menace started.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2017, 11:44:59 PM
Uh oh....
http://www.salon.com/2016/11/18/dick-cheney-darth-vader-satan-that-is-power-steve-bannon-speaks-out-for-first-time-since-being-named-donald-trumps-top-white-house-adviser/

Quote"Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they—get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing," Bannon said of his detractors who criticized the far-right, white nationalist movement that Breitbart and others have successfully rebranded as the alt-right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 27, 2017, 12:30:52 AM
Shia LeBouef has been arrested for assaulting a second Neo-Nazi.

https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/news-shia-labeouf-arrested-in-new-york-after-attacking-neo-nazi?utm_source=vicefbuk&utm_campaign=global

QuoteShia himself has been regularly appearing in the live-feed, but not without controversy. Three days ago he got into a confrontation with a man wearing a Nazi hat. In response, Shia shouted "he will not divide us" at him, as the neo-Nazi tried to hijack the camera, whilst chanting white supremacist slogans. Following a second altercation with a man who shouted "Hitler did nothing wrong", Shia has now been arrested and charged with assault and harassment. The live-stream showed Shia pushing the man away, before grabbing him by the scarf. Later Shia was shown being handcuffed and led away by New York City cops.

If Shia, the Badlands National Park Service and Teen Vogue end up leading the Resistance, I'm fucking quitting this reality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 27, 2017, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2017, 12:30:52 AM
Shia LeBouef has been arrested for assaulting a second Neo-Nazi.

https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/news-shia-labeouf-arrested-in-new-york-after-attacking-neo-nazi?utm_source=vicefbuk&utm_campaign=global

QuoteShia himself has been regularly appearing in the live-feed, but not without controversy. Three days ago he got into a confrontation with a man wearing a Nazi hat. In response, Shia shouted "he will not divide us" at him, as the neo-Nazi tried to hijack the camera, whilst chanting white supremacist slogans. Following a second altercation with a man who shouted "Hitler did nothing wrong", Shia has now been arrested and charged with assault and harassment. The live-stream showed Shia pushing the man away, before grabbing him by the scarf. Later Shia was shown being handcuffed and led away by New York City cops.


If Shia, the Badlands National Park Service and Teen Vogue end up leading the Resistance, I'm fucking quitting this reality.

It has become more and more abundantly clear: we have been gravely underestimating Eris all this time. This is her fucking world; she just lets us live in it. For now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 03:56:32 AM
Chaffetz is introducing legislation to end the BLM and the Park Service.

On the face of it, this means all the national reserve land gets handed over to miners and loggers, just like the Bundys demanded.  I imagine Trump himself will put in a bid for the Grand Canyon.

But it also means that the Native American reservations will cease to exist, along with their right to semi-autonomy.  And along with what scraps of land they have left.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 27, 2017, 08:02:21 AM
With any luck he'll be assassinated soon enough. We just need to hope he keeeeps shitting on the intelligence services until they get off their asses and defend the country.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 27, 2017, 08:24:49 AM
it occurs to me that there may be a method to his madness, albeit an insane one. He promised to "make America great again" and obviously in order to do that he first has to ruin it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 27, 2017, 08:46:37 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Please on January 22, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
If nothing else, the next 6-18 months are going to make it very clear where everyone's alleigances lie.  Trump doesn't have a power base and hasn't played the game...he's dead meat and he doesn't even know it.

I think it'd be worth all this just to see Trump get ousted and humiliated. Ryan's rough, but it seems like he's the type that's easier to counter because he has a plan and certain interests. Trump really only has his own interests and is too unpredictable to counter, clearly.

If we can get the damn voters off their asses, we can re-take Congress in 2018, and even if Ryan ends up in office we'll be able to lame duck him until 2020. Problem is, there's a good long stretch before 2018. Well, and the other problem is that an awful  lot of voters seem to have no idea how politics work or why midterm elections are important.

If there's an election in 2018....
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 27, 2017, 10:08:53 AM
Of course there'll be an election in 2018. It'll be yuuuge. All six surviving americans will vote. 100% turnout. Biggest percentage voter turnout in history. Best election ever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 27, 2017, 04:49:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2017, 08:53:40 PM
So, Trump has said he is going to get America to pay for building the wall, and make Mexico reimburse it.

Mexico has said "lol no", and called off a meeting with Trump in protest.

Trump has said today that he will pass a 20% import tax on all Mexican goods to pay for the wall.  Presumably, none of his advisers have explained to him how this is, yet again, making Americans pay for the wall.

LOL, how does he think import taxes work? Does he think the country exporting the goods pays them?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 27, 2017, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
Some people have also mentioned that to pass such a tariff, the US would have to leave NAFTA

:lulz:

Not actually funny, but what is there to do other than laugh and protest?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2017, 11:13:45 PM
Ryan just admitted that there will be no replacement for the ACA.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2017, 03:07:54 AM
HAW HAW HAW

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-targets-landmark-endangered-species-act-big-changes-063525152.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2017, 11:53:01 AM
So, who wants to know about Trump's source for the "3 million illegal votes thing"?  Of course you do.

Today, Trump revealed his name was Gregg Phillips in a tweet.  Gregg is the owner of "VoteStand", an app which allows people to report "suspected illegal voting activities as they happen".  He claims that he has matched complaints made to him on election day with the US voter roll and found over 3 million irregularities - but he has refused thus far to show his work.

He also owed more than $100,000 in unpaid tax, associated with the Tea Party, has claimed that Israelis impersonated the Russians behind the DNC hacking, claimed that the Department of Health and Human Services under Obama "hacked" the election, compared Pelosi to Hitler and doesn't like Islam much.

So, yeah.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2017, 10:18:01 PM
Unconfirmed reports (but from a normally credible source (https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/825405243567513600)) that green card holders coming back into America from countries under the "Muslim ban" were handcuffed, had their social media reviewed and were asked their views on Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2017, 11:32:20 PM
It gets even worse  http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-visa-ban-also-applies-to-citizens-with-dual-nationality-state-department-says-1485628654

QuoteIt also applies to people who originally hail from those countries but are traveling on a passport issued by any other nation, the official said. That means Iraqis seeking to enter the U.S. on a British passport, for instance, will be barred, according to a U.S. official. British citizens don't normally require a visa to enter the U.S.

"Travelers who have nationality or dual nationality of one of these countries will not be permitted for 90 days to enter the United States or be issued an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa," a State Department official said. "Those nationals or dual nationals holding valid immigrant or nonimmigrant visas will not be permitted to enter the United States during this period. Visa interviews will generally not be scheduled for nationals of these countries during this period."

The dual-citizenship ban doesn't apply to U.S. citizens who are also citizens of the seven nations singled out by Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/white-house-holocaust-memorial-day/index.html

Trump has no comment on Jewish victims of the holocaust because "other people died, too."



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Words are a limited commodity, there's no way he could say Jews, Roma, gays and Communists...it would deplete the National Strategic Word Reserve.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2017, 03:19:33 PM
Oh, and Steve "platform for the alt-right" Bannon has been put on the NSC.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Words are a limited commodity, there's no way he could say Jews, Roma, gays and Communists...it would deplete the National Strategic Word Reserve.

You left out disabled people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
I wonder how many Trump voters are finally starting to comprehend why so many people kept saying that supporting Trump is racist as fuck? I mean, I keep seeing all these regret posts about voting for the guy, and I'm like, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED, DUMBASS. 
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Words are a limited commodity, there's no way he could say Jews, Roma, gays and Communists...it would deplete the National Strategic Word Reserve.

You left out disabled people.

And Russian POWs and a few other groups too. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
I wonder how many Trump voters are finally starting to comprehend why so many people kept saying that supporting Trump is racist as fuck? I mean, I keep seeing all these regret posts about voting for the guy, and I'm like, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED, DUMBASS. 
:horrormirth:

Sadly I don't think a lot of them care Nigel. From over here it looks horribly as if that was actually the reason why a lot of people voted for him.

ALSO
https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas
an interesting piece from a far from bleeding heart liberal legal position highlighting the incompetence of the new administration.

Brings together CNN's outline of how the executive ordure actually happened and a broad ranging analysis of its legal shortcomings
also including a copy of how the order describes its purpose:
Quotethe United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

The Irony, it is strong in this one  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2017, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
I wonder how many Trump voters are finally starting to comprehend why so many people kept saying that supporting Trump is racist as fuck? I mean, I keep seeing all these regret posts about voting for the guy, and I'm like, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED, DUMBASS. 
:horrormirth:

To be fair, who would have expected Donald Trump of all people to be the kind of politician who keeps his promises?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 04:48:14 PM
I wonder how many Trump voters are finally starting to comprehend why so many people kept saying that supporting Trump is racist as fuck? I mean, I keep seeing all these regret posts about voting for the guy, and I'm like, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED, DUMBASS. 
:horrormirth:

Sadly I don't think a lot of them care Nigel. From over here it looks horribly as if that was actually the reason why a lot of people voted for him.

Yes, that is why I specifically referred to the ones who are posting that they regret voting for him because now he is doing racist things, and apparently they weren't expecting that. This is what prompted me to wonder how many of his voters are currently having that wake-up moment, and why, exactly, they didn't see it coming.

Quote
ALSO
https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas
an interesting piece from a far from bleeding heart liberal legal position highlighting the incompetence of the new administration.

Brings together CNN's outline of how the executive ordure actually happened and a broad ranging analysis of its legal shortcomings
also including a copy of how the order describes its purpose:
Quotethe United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

The Irony, it is strong in this one  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
Its good to hear that some people are realising their error, Nigel. Interestingly our news media isn't carrying a lot of buyer's regret, yet, or if they are I'm not seeing it they are still focusing on Trump enthusiasts  :horrormirth: - is the negative vibe coming from social media?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
Its good to hear that some people are realising their error, Nigel. Interestingly our news media isn't carrying a lot of buyer's regret, yet, or if they are I'm not seeing it they are still focusing on Trump enthusiasts  :horrormirth: - is the negative vibe coming from social media?

Yes, social media is where I have been seeing the regret posts I mentioned.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 08:54:54 PM
Relevant: https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
Relevant and timely: http://www.metro.us/news/do-you-regret-voting-for-donald-trump-don-t-worry-you-re-not-alone/zsJqaB---k66l4mRxch6gU/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Political science shows us that US presidents mostly keep their campaign promises, to something like 75% of the time.

So this was entirely predictable, as I was saying back when people were still giving the "he's just saying that to get elected/but he's a straight talker unlike $hillary" a try.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Political science shows us that US presidents mostly keep their campaign promises, to something like 75% of the time.

So this was entirely predictable, as I was saying back when people were still giving the "he's just saying that to get elected/but he's a straight talker unlike $hillary" a try.

I never could figure out how the fuck they reconciled "Just lying to get into office" with "But he's not a lying liar like Hillary".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 09:10:00 PM
Just a quick aside :
So after Theresa May's ghastly and embarrassing handholding party with the Cheat'oh a wave of British decorum has risen. She invited the clown prince back to her place for tea and crumpets. We can't ban his from the UK 'cos he is, after all, an elected head of a country whose ass we need to kiss but we are at least trying to spare Her Majesty's finer feelings.
The petition launched this morning to ban The Donald from coming to the UK and bothering the Queen has passed 642,000 665,181 677,072 679,388 692,146 signatures. [It went up while I was writing]. It only takes 100,000 for the petition to be considered for debate in the House.
QuotePetition
Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.
Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
Also this made me smile :
QuoteThe Governor of Washington just declared Donald Trump an enemy of the United States.This is powerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q9UojBAthg
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
May's initial refusal to condemn this will be remembered as her "Trump doesn't denounce the KKK" moment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
May's initial refusal to condemn this will be remembered as her "Trump doesn't denounce the KKK" moment.

I was horrified to just find myself wondering if Michael Gove might have put on a better show of statesmanship and been less spineless than May. I also couldn't stop myself thinking that he might not have looked so good hand in hand with dRumpf
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
Oh man.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/selectall/2017/01/29/Spicer_Tweet.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.png)

https://twitter.com/seanspicer/status/825565510418968578

Please please let there be a White House temper tantrum about being misrepresented by the Onion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on January 30, 2017, 05:20:09 AM
Stolen summary from Fark:

Day 1:
Reads 16-minute inauguration speech he falsely claims to have written himself.
In that speech, inadvertently quotes movie villain Bane from Batman.
Announces the Alt-Right's theme of America First as policy and philosophy.
Cites American 'carnage', without going into detail as to what that might entail.
Falsely claims it stopped raining when he began to speak.
Passes over long-time inauguration parade announcer Charlie Brotman, replacing him with no one.
Six journalists are arrested while covering the inauguration and charged with felony rioting.
Trump signs emergency order increasing mortgage costs for first time home buyers.

Day 2:
Climate change data on White House website scrubbed.
Trump calls National Park Service Director Michael T. Reynolds and orders him to produce photos showing a more crowded inauguration.
He lies to the press about the size of the crowds at his inauguration, then complains when the press calls him on that lie.
Gives speech at CIA headquarters. Brings along a claque of staffers unrelated to the CIA to cheer and clap at his words.
Later claims he received the "greatest standing ovation since Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl."
Protocol calls for government employees to remain standing until the president asks them to sit
Outgoing CIA director, John Brennan, calls the CIA speech "a despicable display of self-aggrandizement."
Claims to hold the all-time record of Time magazine covers at "14 or 15." He has been on 11 covers.
Richard Nixon holds the actual record with 55 Time covers. Hillary Clinton has 22 covers.

Day 3:
Spokesperson Conway announces Trump won't be releasing his tax returns regardless of the state of his IRS Audit.
She claims that the people don't care about Trump's taxes.
Conway also introduces the concept of lies as "alternative facts."

Day 4:
Spanish language option on White House website scrubbed.
Conway reverses herself and says that Trump will release his taxes once his IRS audit is complete.
After lying about inauguration crowd sizes on Day 1, Press Secretary Spicer says "...our intention is never to lie to you."
Spicer claims hiring freeze will halt "dramatic increase" in government employment.
Number of federal employees at the beginning of Obama's terms, 2.77 million; towards the end, 2.66 million.
Spicer declines to give the current unemployment rate when asked by a reporter.
Trump bans aid to international health organizations, including the World Heath Organization, if they mention abortion.
Claims he will cut all regulations on businesses by 75%, that the remaining 25% will be just as strong about protecting the people as before the cut.
Claims to have "received many awards on the environment."
The only award that can be verified is a Trump golf course that received one in 2007.
In 2011 the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection cited the same golf course for several environmental violations.
At a meeting with lawmakers, Trump repeats the false claim that between 3 and 5 million illegal voters made him lose the popular vote.
The initial evidence he cites is the anecdote of a 59-year-old golf pro and German citizen, Bernhard Langer, who Trump claims saw a lot of Latin faces in a polling line in Florida.
Reporters reached the golf pro's daughter on Langer's cell phone. She said "He is not a friend of President Trump's, and I don't know why he would talk about him."
An attempt to sue Trump under the Constitution's Emoluments Clause begins.

Day 5:
Retroactively declares his inauguration day, January 20, 2017, the National Day of Patriotic Devotion.
Revives the Keystone XL and Dakota Access crude oil pipelines.
The Badlands National Park Twitter account goes rogue and begins to tweet global warming stats and other scientific facts. It is shut down.
A few other National Park accounts begin to follow suit out of solidarity.
White house imposes a freeze on grants and contracts from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, prohibits employees from speaking to the press or on social media.
Slaps a similar gag order on US Department of Agriculture scientists.
Press Secretary Spicer says Trump's 306 electoral votes were the most won by a GOP president since Reagan.
But after Reagan, George HW Bush won with 426 electoral votes.
Spicer calls prospective Attorney General Sessions record on voting and civil rights "exemplary." Says Sessions "has fought very hard for voting rights, civil rights and on areas of minority rights."
Sessions was considered to be too racist for a federal judgeship in the 1980's. As a US Attorney, Sessions prosecuted 3 black activists for hand delivering, rather than mailing a small number of absentee ballots.
Sessions also called a fellow US Attorney "Boy."
Spicer repeats Trump's lie regarding 3-5 million illegal votes during the election, citing non-existent "studies and evidence."
A member of the House and a Senator introduce a bill that would prevent the president from launching a nuclear first strike without a congressional declaration of war.
A short time after a Bill O'Reilly episode touching on Chicago gun violence airs on Fox, Trump threatens to send federal troops into Chicago.
Chicago's murder rate in 2016 failed to put it in the top 10 US cities.

Day 6:
Expands media and social media gag orders to include US Departments of Commerce, the Interior, Transportation and Health and Human services.
Trump issues Draft Order designed to reopen CIA.-run "black site" prisons.
These secret overseas prisons detained and tortured terrorism suspects for years, before being shut down by President Obama.
Trump claims that intelligence officials have told him that torture "absolutely" works.
George Orwell's classic book 1984 hits #6 on Amazon's bestseller list.
Trump tweets that he will be asking for a "major investigation into VOTER FRAUD."
When confronted on ABC with the fact that the Pew reporter he was citing regarding voter fraud said there was in fact no voter fraud, Trump claimed the Pew reporter was "groveling."
Claims that two people were shot in Chicago during Obama's farewell speech. Police reported no shootings in Chicago on that day.
In the same interview, says "We ended up winning by a massive amount, 306." In terms of electoral votes, Trump's win ranks 46th out of 58 elections.
Says "They say I had the biggest crowd in the history of inaugural speeches." Estimates for crowds at Trump's speech are 80% below those of Barack Obama's in 2009.
Says "We have spent as of one month ago 6 trillion dollars in the Middle East." From 2001 to 2014 the wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan--the latter country is in South Asia--cost an estimated $1.6 trillion.
Says "You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore." Some 20 million people have gained health care coverage because of the Affordable Care Act.
He signs directive to build border wall with Mexico, reiterates that Mexico will pay for it.
The deepest channel of the Rio Grande river serves as the US-Mexico border for 1255 miles, longer than the distance from New York City to Orlando, FL.
The river is known to change its course rather frequently.
Signs another directive increasing detention centers and Border Patrol staff.
Signs another directive that threatens to cut off federal funds to cities that don't actively and vigorously pursue illegal aliens.
Another order cuts U.S. funding to the International Criminal Court by 40 percent. The U.S. currently gives zero funding to the International Criminal Court.
Trump's Mar-a-Lago country club doubles membership fees.
His hotel business reveals plans for a major US expansion.

Day 7
14 minutes after Fox News calls Chelsea Manning an ungrateful traitor who called Obama a weak leader, Trump tweets that Chelsea Manning is an ungrateful traitor who called Obama a weak leader.
Entire US State Department senior management team resigns. All were career foreign service officers who served under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Infowars, who reported that the murdered Sandy Hook 1st graders were paid actors hired by the anti-gun lobby, and that the Air Force is purposefully creating deadly tornadoes in the Midwest, is granted White House Press credentials.
Trump tweets that Mexico should cancel the upcoming summit with the US if they don't want to pay for the wall.
Enrique Pena Nieto, president of Mexico, our close ally, cancels his planned trip to Washington.
Trump proposes a 20% tax on goods coming from Mexico. Sellers will increase their prices by 20%, which will be paid for by the US consumer.
In Philadelphia Trump says that "the murder rate has been steadily -- I mean, just terribly increasing."
Data provided by the Philadelphia Police Department shows a record downturn in violent crimes, with fewer occurring in 2016 than in every other year since 1979.
Trump orders his new administration to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.
The idea is not new. The German newspaper Der Stürmer had a feature known as the "Letter Box", which encouraged the reporting of Jewish illegal acts in the 1930's and 40's.
"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile," -Steve Bannon, Donald Trump's closest adviser.
In an interview with Sean Hannity, Trump says that he doesn't consider waterboarding to be torture.
In April of 2009, Hannity agreed to be waterboarded for charity, but has yet to follow through on the offer.
Trump draft proposal will ban immigration and to the US from Muslim majority countries Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Yemen and Somalia.
Muslim majority countries Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan and the U.A.E. will not be on the banned list. These five countries are where Trump has business interests.

Day 8
Trump signs ban on Muslims from the 7 countries from traveling into the US.
Announces that persecuted Christians will be given priority over Muslim refugees.
A screenshot is revived of Mike Pence's deleted December 2015 tweet stating "Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."
Dick Cheney says Muslim ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."
By a margin of 42% to 39%, Trump voters believe that it would be okay for him to use his private email server for official business.
George Orwell's 1984 hits #1 on Amazon's bestseller list.
Trump tweets that he has another source for his oft-debunked claim of millions of illegal votes - Gregg Phillips, who has made claims that the Department of Homeland Security hacked the 2016 US election at Obama's request, and that Israel was the culprit for the DNC hacks.
Three paragraph White House statement on Holocaust Remembrance Day makes no mention of the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
White Supremacist publication the Daily Stormer praises Trump on this statement for daring to reject "Jewish science fiction" about the Holocaust.

Day 9
Donald Trump calls Vladimir Putin from the White House.
Steve Bannon, former publisher of radical right wing website Breitbart, is granted a regular seat at National Security Council meetings.
Sample Breitbart headlines include Data: Young Muslims in the West Are a Ticking Time Bomb, and Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy.
In 2013, Bannon told a writer for the Daily Beast, "I'm a Leninist. Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down."
The Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will no longer have regular seats on the NSC.
Some legal permanent US residents are being stopped from reentering as they return from visits or studies abroad.
The Muslim ban will also keep Oscar-nominated director Asghar Farhadi from attending the Oscars.
Referencing an article on how the ban will include green card residents, former KKK Grand Wizard and current racist icon David Duke tweets, "Greatest. Year. Ever."
Protesters flood JFK International Terminal in New York, demanding that detainees there be allowed to go free.
More protesters assemble at airports in Denver, Chicago, Dallas, San Francisco, Seattle, LA, and Washington DC.
Dozens of lawyers show up at various airports to work pro bono to free detainees there.
New York judge issues a temporary injunction halting deportations nationwide from Trump's ban.
Similar rulings follow in Virginia, Massachusetts and Washington State.

Day 10
The US Department of Homeland Security says it will comply with judicial orders not to deport detained travelers affected by Trump's ban.
The DHS reverses itself and announces it will defy the court orders, potentially provoking a constitutional crisis.
According to White House sources, Top Trump policy director Stephen Miller tells government employees that the public is behind Trump's ban, and to ignore the hysterical voices on TV.
While at Duke, Stephen Miller worked closely with White Nationalist Richard Spencer--the man who was recently punched in the face on air while explaining the Alt-Right, provoking debate amongst the Left as to whether or not it's okay to punch a Nazi.
As chaos and protests continue at airports in the US and around the world, Trump tells reporters "It's not a Muslim ban. We were totally prepared. It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over. It's working out very nicely."
Trump issues a statement saying, "To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting,"
Earlier in the day, Rudy Giuliani, adviser to Trump, told a reporter, "I'll tell you the whole history of it. When he first announced it, he said 'Muslim ban.' He called me up, he said 'put a commission together, show me the right way to do it, legally.' "
A petition calling for Trump to be prevented from making a state visit to the United Kingdom picks up over 600,000 signatures, Once a petition passes the 500,000 threshold, the matter must then be debated in the UK Parliament.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 31, 2017, 04:49:07 AM
Quote from: MMIX on January 29, 2017, 09:10:00 PM
Just a quick aside :
So after Theresa May's ghastly and embarrassing handholding party with the Cheat'oh a wave of British decorum has risen. She invited the clown prince back to her place for tea and crumpets. We can't ban his from the UK 'cos he is, after all, an elected head of a country whose ass we need to kiss but we are at least trying to spare Her Majesty's finer feelings.
The petition launched this morning to ban The Donald from coming to the UK and bothering the Queen has passed 642,000 665,181 677,072 679,388 692,146 signatures. [It went up while I was writing]. It only takes 100,000 for the petition to be considered for debate in the House.
QuotePetition
Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.
Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.

Now we need a petition to get England to impose sanctions. We need the EU to impose sanctions too, hit his business interests and hit the industries that supported him.

He wants to bring back the factories. I want the phrase "made in america" to completely disappear from the face of the earth, to be found no more at all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Trump continues to dignify the offices of state by declaring a SUPREME COURT DEATHMATCH

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-scotus-drama/515169/


Then he went and picked Neil Gorsuch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137

Meanwhile, Tillerson basically paid to be made Sec State, according to some explosive claims circulating.  They've not been written up, so no links yet, but Exxon allegedly funneled a significant amount of money to Trump shortly before Tillerson was picked for the role.  Exxon, of course, are losing billions from sanctions on Russia, so...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on February 01, 2017, 04:02:44 AM
I find the idea of Trump using Reality TV tropes for political ends to be more distressing than quite a few of the things he's done. That's a way to get people politically invested in you -- make yourself into a "character", add a dramatic soundtrack to government procedure, encourage dramatic emotional responses from the other "characters" in the production. That's terrifying. It makes him seem less real and endears him to people who aren't politically inclined. It will undoubtedly do precisely what it's supposed to do, too; reality TV has a lot of studying and focus group testing done to ensure ideal responses from the audience.

It's funny, at a distance. But it has a lot of potential for abuse, and Trump is precisely who would abuse it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Don Coyote on February 01, 2017, 04:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Political science shows us that US presidents mostly keep their campaign promises, to something like 75% of the time.

So this was entirely predictable, as I was saying back when people were still giving the "he's just saying that to get elected/but he's a straight talker unlike $hillary" a try.

I never could figure out how the fuck they reconciled "Just lying to get into office" with "But he's not a lying liar like Hillary".

Ovaries
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 01, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Jasa1ht.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 01, 2017, 03:14:11 PM
We need to revive any and all anti-Russia slogans from the Cold War era that don't mention communism (if there are any)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Trump continues to dignify the offices of state by declaring a SUPREME COURT DEATHMATCH

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-scotus-drama/515169/


Then he went and picked Neil Gorsuch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137

Meanwhile, Tillerson basically paid to be made Sec State, according to some explosive claims circulating.  They've not been written up, so no links yet, but Exxon allegedly funneled a significant amount of money to Trump shortly before Tillerson was picked for the role.  Exxon, of course, are losing billions from sanctions on Russia, so...

Gorsuch is hands-down his least vile nominee so far.

Not great -- I mean, the guy is rabidly against death with dignity, as well as having all the generally nasty baggage you can expect from a typical conservative, but he's not the absolute monstrosity  Trump's other picks have been.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: Don Coyote on February 01, 2017, 04:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
Political science shows us that US presidents mostly keep their campaign promises, to something like 75% of the time.

So this was entirely predictable, as I was saying back when people were still giving the "he's just saying that to get elected/but he's a straight talker unlike $hillary" a try.

I never could figure out how the fuck they reconciled "Just lying to get into office" with "But he's not a lying liar like Hillary".

Ovaries

Yeah.  :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Trump continues to dignify the offices of state by declaring a SUPREME COURT DEATHMATCH

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-scotus-drama/515169/


Then he went and picked Neil Gorsuch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137

Meanwhile, Tillerson basically paid to be made Sec State, according to some explosive claims circulating.  They've not been written up, so no links yet, but Exxon allegedly funneled a significant amount of money to Trump shortly before Tillerson was picked for the role.  Exxon, of course, are losing billions from sanctions on Russia, so...

Gorsuch is hands-down his least vile nominee so far.

Not great -- I mean, the guy is rabidly against death with dignity, as well as having all the generally nasty baggage you can expect from a typical conservative, but he's not the absolute monstrosity  Trump's other picks have been.

Such as, for example, Jerry Falwell Jr, who is leading a Federal task force on Higher Education?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Trump continues to dignify the offices of state by declaring a SUPREME COURT DEATHMATCH

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-scotus-drama/515169/


Then he went and picked Neil Gorsuch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137

Meanwhile, Tillerson basically paid to be made Sec State, according to some explosive claims circulating.  They've not been written up, so no links yet, but Exxon allegedly funneled a significant amount of money to Trump shortly before Tillerson was picked for the role.  Exxon, of course, are losing billions from sanctions on Russia, so...

Gorsuch is hands-down his least vile nominee so far.

Not great -- I mean, the guy is rabidly against death with dignity, as well as having all the generally nasty baggage you can expect from a typical conservative, but he's not the absolute monstrosity  Trump's other picks have been.

Such as, for example, Jerry Falwell Jr, who is leading a Federal task force on Higher Education?

Yeah, there are not enough facepalms in the cosmos for that shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 01, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 01, 2017, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Trump continues to dignify the offices of state by declaring a SUPREME COURT DEATHMATCH

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-scotus-drama/515169/


Then he went and picked Neil Gorsuch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38813137

Meanwhile, Tillerson basically paid to be made Sec State, according to some explosive claims circulating.  They've not been written up, so no links yet, but Exxon allegedly funneled a significant amount of money to Trump shortly before Tillerson was picked for the role.  Exxon, of course, are losing billions from sanctions on Russia, so...

Gorsuch is hands-down his least vile nominee so far.

Not great -- I mean, the guy is rabidly against death with dignity, as well as having all the generally nasty baggage you can expect from a typical conservative, but he's not the absolute monstrosity  Trump's other picks have been.

Consider why.

If the democrats block it, they're gaining little having already let some shitshows in.

Also, the next suggestion to replace it will be overtly worse and railroaded through while the attention is on the latest fuckup.

The only sound move democrats can make now is the "just obstruct everything, always" and they've already shied away from that. Further concessions are inevitable and going to end up in crap deals.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 02, 2017, 12:07:40 AM
Trump's Black History Month meeting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFe-cDxGxY
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on February 02, 2017, 01:27:41 PM
Burning bridges with Australia, for no reason whatsoever, it worries me the amount of damage that can be done before 2020.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on February 02, 2017, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 02, 2017, 01:27:41 PM
Burning bridges with Australia, for no reason whatsoever, it worries me the amount of damage that can be done before 2020.

To say nothing of outright threatening to send armed troops to Mexico without declaring war or even having cause to go to war according to traditional international law.

I'm sure Trump has "alternative international law" on his side though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 02, 2017, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 02, 2017, 01:27:41 PM
Burning bridges with Australia, for no reason whatsoever, it worries me the amount of damage that can be done before 2020 next week.

ftfy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2017, 05:12:35 PM
He is apparently moving forward with his promise to lift the separation of church and state.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Burned bridges with Australia, threatened Mexico with sending in troops without their leave and appears to be threatening Iran with some kind of violence AND launched a botched counterterrorism raid last week in Yemen, which ended up killing an 8 year old girl and a Navy SEAL.  And Bannon is brainstorming a South China Seas conflict.

But Hillary Clinton is a warmonger!  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on February 02, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
I'm at the point where not even laughter is stopping the horror from setting in, it's more like an automatic reflex in between the incoherent shrieks.

For the lazy-but-interested:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/malcolm-turnbull-donald-trump-pena-nieto/index.html Australia + Mexico

http://www.twincities.com/2017/02/02/trump-vows-to-repeal-political-limits-on-churches/ Church/State

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/iran-trump-michael-flynn-on-notice Iran
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-officials-trump-ordered-raid-in-yemen-that-killed-us-navy-seal-was-approved-without-sufficient-intelligence-2017-2 Yemen
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt South China Sea
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2017, 09:15:55 PM
On the domestic front, Trump has revealed plans to rebrand the "Countering Violent Extremism" program as "Countering Islamic Extremism".  All references to far-right groups or attempts to counter far-right extremism have been dropped from the program.

Coincidentally, the FBI has been investigating the infiltration of the American far-right into local police forces.  The infiltration is so bad that in some districts, the FBI refuses to share intelligence with local PDs for fear of compromising operations against the far-right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 02, 2017, 10:11:29 PM
Well I mean, this all seems to confirm everything everyone was saying about how a Hillary Presidency would be exactly the same as a Trump Presidency. I mean, sure is a good thing all those protest voters didn't waste their vote on her, because then, well, someone with a vagina would be President and we can't have that.
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 02, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
Just like Hillary https://newrepublic.com/article/140344/steve-bannon-turning-trump-ethno-nationalist-ideologue
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 03, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
BUT HER EMAILS
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2017, 05:06:28 PM
EMAILS
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 03, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
My favourite news of the week [among the many  :horrormirth:]

QuotePoll: Trump voters OK with a private email server
And finally by a 42/39 spread Trump voters think he should be allowed to have a private email server: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/01/americans-think-trump-will-be-worst-president-since-nixon.html ...
5:09 PM - 26 Jan 2017 · Raleigh, NC

QuoteAccording to another new report, at least four senior officials in President Trump's White House have active accounts on a private Republican National Committee (RNC) email system.
Counselor Kellyanne Conway, White House press secretary Sean Spicer, chief strategist and senior counselor Stephen Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner — Trump's son-in-law — all have rnchq.org email accounts, Newsweek reported Wednesday.
both quotes from The Hill http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316414-trump-voters-think-he-should-be-allowed-to-have-a-private-email
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 04, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
Trump voters and republicans in general aren't going to be convinced by sense, but what about nonsense? Here are some nonsense concepts that we should get circulating

"The muslim ban doesn't go far enough. We need to ban Saudi Arabia too." (We're never going to convince them to do Saudi Arabia instead, but Saudi Arabia should be banned because if would screw up up Trump's business interests there and honestly while it would make the whole thing even more heavy handed than it already is it would also make it more sensible as that was where the 9/11 hijackers came from)

and conversely

"Trump left Saudi Arabia off the list because he knows that Bush did 9/11"

and also

"Trump is the antichrist/Putin is the antichrist/Trump and Putin are two of the heads of the beast. The signs are all there."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 04, 2017, 10:56:30 PM
Charming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/03/us/politics/donald-trump-business.html?_r=0
QuoteJust days before his inauguration, President-elect Donald J. Trump stood beside his tax lawyer at a Midtown Manhattan news conference as she announced that he planned to place his vast business holdings in a trust, a move she said would allay fears that he might exploit the Oval Office for personal gain.

However, a number of questions were left unanswered — including who would ultimately benefit from the trust — raising concerns about just how meaningful the move was.

Now, records have emerged that show just how closely tied Mr. Trump remains to the empire he built.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11794343
QuoteA fascinating and scary article has been doing the rounds in recent days, which suggests that Donald Trump's ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries was an attempt to see how far he can push his power, as the first step to mounting an all-out coup.

A Google engineer named Yonatan Zunger has suggested that the way the White House has repeatedly gone around long standing conventions shows it is testing to see whether a coup is possible.

One man's coup is another man's "strong leadership". But what Zunger is talking about is Mr Trump's inner circle grabbing power in a similar way that Vladimir Putin has done in Russia, where he exercises power unchallenged by any other body.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 04, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
I'm not sure whether I should be hoping that america doesn't get destroyed by a nuclear war or hoping that it does.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 04, 2017, 11:08:31 PM
Hey Cain, any truth in the "Iran selling oil to Japan using the yen" stuff as the real motivation for sanctions? Would seem to fit as Japan needs the import and the almighty petrodollar shall not be fucked with. Can't find a decent source for it though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2017, 05:58:34 PM
Pretty sure that declaration came after the travel ban, did it not?

If this was a test for anything, on the international arena, it may have been a test to see how tight Iran and Russia are.  Trump's people are pretty crazy about Iran, but Russia isn't going to drop Tehran as a partner any time soon.  Balancing their pro-Russia approach with an anti-Iranian agenda is not going to be easy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 07, 2017, 04:34:57 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/world/europe/vatican-steve-bannon-pope-francis.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4EhUl6WYAICOg6.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 07, 2017, 05:25:19 PM
Oh, great.  :evilmad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2017, 11:55:00 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/betsy-devos-vote-pences-history-making-tie-breaker-confirms-controversial-n717836?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 08, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
While I'm here...can anyone give me a reason that Trump is so pro-Russian that is not that "the Steel dossier is in substance true"?  Referencing his statements the other day...he was willing to disparage American conduct, on FOX News, as a Republican President, rather than admit that Putin might be a scumbag.

I can't think of any non-blackmail reason as to why Trump would be so consistently and overtly deferential to one particular world leader.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2017, 03:57:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 08, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
While I'm here...can anyone give me a reason that Trump is so pro-Russian that is not that "the Steel dossier is in substance true"?  Referencing his statements the other day...he was willing to disparage American conduct, on FOX News, as a Republican President, rather than admit that Putin might be a scumbag.

I can't think of any non-blackmail reason as to why Trump would be so consistently and overtly deferential to one particular world leader.

I think it's blackmail. However, another explanation is simply that he gets a lot of money from Russia and wants to keep it that way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 08, 2017, 01:46:09 PM
Other non-blackmail reason: He honestly likes Putin's governing style, and feels it matches his preferred leadership style.

I blame Occam.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 08, 2017, 09:08:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 08, 2017, 01:46:09 PM
Other non-blackmail reason: He honestly likes Putin's governing style, and feels it matches his preferred leadership style.

I blame Occam.

It sure seems to work for Putin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 08, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
LMNO, I get what you're saying, but this is a man who rarely has a good thing to say about anyone, and whose own ego probably has a Secret Service protection detail.

Yet, when Putin comes up, he's as servile and craven as a whipped dog.  Putin's style isn't that unique..Erdogan, Duterte, Orban and others also use it.  And while he's friendly enough with those leaders, in the way you would expect due to his preference for their leadership style, he's not quite as asslicky as he is with Putin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on February 08, 2017, 10:46:14 PM
Quote
Eavenson brought up to Trump an unnamed senator who was discussing introducing legislation that would require a conviction before law enforcement could seize forfeiture money, joking that "the cartel would build a monument" to the senator in Mexico for passing said legislation.

"Who is the state senator? Do you want to give his name? We'll destroy his career," Trump replied, according to Politico.

Leach, who has pushed for civil asset forfeiture reform in Pennsylvania, invited Trump to come after him as well.

"Hey! I oppose civil asset forfeiture too," Leach wrote on Facebook and Twitter. "Why don't you come after me you fascist, loofa-faced s***-gibbon!!"

http://www.phillyvoice.com/pennsylvania-senator-trump-come-after-me-you-s-gibbon/

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on February 09, 2017, 12:30:34 AM
 :argh!: Sessions
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 09, 2017, 12:43:40 AM
Quote from: N E T on February 08, 2017, 10:46:14 PM
Quote
Eavenson brought up to Trump an unnamed senator who was discussing introducing legislation that would require a conviction before law enforcement could seize forfeiture money, joking that "the cartel would build a monument" to the senator in Mexico for passing said legislation.

"Who is the state senator? Do you want to give his name? We'll destroy his career," Trump replied, according to Politico.

Leach, who has pushed for civil asset forfeiture reform in Pennsylvania, invited Trump to come after him as well.

"Hey! I oppose civil asset forfeiture too," Leach wrote on Facebook and Twitter. "Why don't you come after me you fascist, loofa-faced s***-gibbon!!"

http://www.phillyvoice.com/pennsylvania-senator-trump-come-after-me-you-s-gibbon/

:lulz:

OMG  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 09, 2017, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 08, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
While I'm here...can anyone give me a reason that Trump is so pro-Russian that is not that "the Steel dossier is in substance true"?  Referencing his statements the other day...he was willing to disparage American conduct, on FOX News, as a Republican President, rather than admit that Putin might be a scumbag.

I can't think of any non-blackmail reason as to why Trump would be so consistently and overtly deferential to one particular world leader.

What about bribery and/or collusion?

EDIT:
Trump is the Saruman to Putin's Sauron (excepy, you know, not smart)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
Sometimes it feels like its easier to assume Trump is being blackmailed because the alternative is so unpalatable. If Trump-kun is being blackmailed, there's an assumption that Trump is being such a shill  against his will.
I don't think that guy does anything against his will except refrain from banging his daughter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 09, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
If trump is as dumb as he makes out then he's being manipulated by smart and powerful people, just like all his predecessors before him, right back to the guy that was rifle-voted out of office for refusing to be manipulated. If he's not then he's a fucking genius actor doing the best full retard since Sean Penn and he's probably about to receive the rifle-vote or something equally media-compelling.

The only thing that's crystal clear to me is the US overwhelmingly voted a guy who can't talk coherently, because of mental impediment rather than speech, to be in charge of the country. Any sensible person in Putin's position right now (which Putin very is), would pretty much just asset-strip the entire landmass and sell the valuable stuff to the Chinese and anyone else who figured out years ago that this US petrodollar thing was on a shaky as fuck nail.

The CinC of the largest stockpile of all the fucking things on earth is slappy the clown and the narrative is that any decision this motherfucker makes is gospel. Personally I never bought that narrative. Struck me as the kind of story smart people would tell dumbfucks so they'd shut the fuck up and do what they were told but, just for sake of argument, let's say it's true. Holy shit, we better secure our borders against US refugees. It's going to look like the set of Mad Max there in a couple of years time. Personally, if I was a murrican and I could spell my own name, I'd be getting the fuck out while my passport still worked. :lulz:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 09, 2017, 06:14:47 PM
Never blame on malign influence that which can be more easily explained by unutterable stupidity

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/318733-trump-denounced-arms-reduction-treaty-in-putin-call-report

QuoteTrump denounced arms-reduction treaty in Putin call: report
Asked by Putin about the possibility of extending the treaty capping U.S. and Russian deployment of nuclear warheads— known as New START — Trump reportedly paused to ask his aides what the treaty was, two U.S. officials and one former U.S. official briefed on the call told Reuters.

He then told Putin it was one of a number of bad deals negotiated by former President Obama and that it favored Russia, before launching into conversation about his own popularity, according to the sources.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 06:30:53 PM
The only thing more troubling than his mental acuity is his colossal ego. If only there were some way to get him alone for 24 hours and hammer away at some of the spooks that hold him hostage...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 09, 2017, 06:39:29 PM
I'm all for hyperbole, but I don't think that's going to do it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/bannon-vatican-julius-evola-fascism.html?smid=tw-nytimesworld&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Steve Bannon is a fan of Evola.

QuoteThose trying to divine the roots of Stephen K. Bannon's dark and at times apocalyptic worldview have repeatedly combed over a speech that Mr. Bannon, President Trump's ideological guru, made in 2014 to a Vatican conference, where he expounded on Islam, populism and capitalism.

But for all the examination of those remarks, a passing reference by Mr. Bannon to an esoteric Italian philosopher has gone little noticed, except perhaps by scholars and followers of the deeply taboo, Nazi-affiliated thinker, Julius Evola.

"The fact that Bannon even knows Evola is significant," said Mark Sedgwick, a leading scholar of Traditionalists at Aarhus University in Denmark.

Evola, who died in 1974, wrote on everything from Eastern religions to the metaphysics of sex to alchemy. But he is best known as a leading proponent of Traditionalism, a worldview popular in far-right and alternative religious circles that believes progress and equality are poisonous illusions.
Continue reading the main story

Evola became a darling of Italian Fascists, and Italy's post-Fascist terrorists of the 1960s and 1970s looked to him as a spiritual and intellectual godfather.

They called themselves Children of the Sun after Evola's vision of a bourgeoisie-smashing new order that he called the Solar Civilization. Today, the Greek neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn includes his works on its suggested reading list, and the leader of Jobbik, the Hungarian nationalist party, admires Evola and wrote an introduction to his works.

More important for the current American administration, Evola also caught on in the United States with leaders of the alt-right movement, which Mr. Bannon nurtured as the head of Breitbart News and then helped harness for Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 10, 2017, 05:06:23 PM
What Trump has is the unshakeable incompetence of a man whose performance feedback loop has been missing for a long time. No matter how smart you are, you cannot become competent without accurate feedback about what you do wrong. He has probably never had that feedback in his life. He strikes me as probably slightly above average intelligence, maybe an IQ of around 110 if I had to take a stab at it. He was a C average Economics student, and I doubt he put much work into achieving that much. He has probably been praised for his intelligence all his life, and has no idea that he is not brilliant.

I think we all know people like that. Break the feedback loop and pile on the praise, and what you get are hopelessly incompetent people who think they are brilliant unique talented superior snowflakes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 10, 2017, 06:19:43 PM
Cain, would you be willing to give a brief synopsis of Evola for those of us who are hopelessly ignorant of this kind of asshole philosophy?

Not that you're an asshole, or a philosopher. You're just smarter than I am, and I thought you would have the information.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on February 10, 2017, 07:18:42 PM
I'm not Cain, but I'm well aware of Evola and his "fans". I've read a book or two of his.

Basically Evola was a dyed-in-the-wool fascist, specifically a fan of the Italian form (strict fascism, so to speak). He had a belief that the occult (specifically esoteric traditions) was the reason the world was "better" back in the day, and that all culture stemmed from nationalistic impulses being acted on by "nations of heroes" in the form of warring nations, etc.

It was clear he knew some of what he was talking about, e.g. he obviously had read actual Buddhist and Hindu texts in their original languages, but that just made him more bizarre: he was convinced that war and "nations of heroes" were a common theme of all "successful" cultures and as "evidence" essentially conflated all variants of the Indo-European "dual pantheon, there is a war between one and the other, the newer weaker guys win" story as talking about a clash between a nation of powerful but corrupt and unheroic "foreigners" and weaker but honorable and heroic "settlers".

He was connected to Nazi theosophists and other groups that combined fascism and the occult, and until the day he died he espoused fascism as the One True Political System of the World. He wrote thousands of books on a wide variety of occult subjects. To this day you cannot actually learn very much about some classical esoteric systems (e.g. Hermeticism) without picking up an Evola book or a book written based on his hopelessly tainted work. So among occultists and people interested in that sort of thing, his views have slowly gained ground.

Now, I don't know much about his actual background or why he wasn't, say, killed in his sleep at the end of WW2... For that, you'd definitely need to ask Cain. But his philosophy is familiar enough to me that I can spot it at a distance -- the world has always seen conflict and the culture with a "nation of heroes" always wins, and this will always be the case. Martial worship, the myth of the divinely appointed leader, all the stuff that makes me want to stomp on Nazi heads.

Apologies if I stole your spotlight, Cain, I was also hoping that if I was wrong on any points you could correct me though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
Nope, you gave a great overview.

The only thing I would add - which is mentioned in the article - is that Evola was very popular with the fascist terrorist groups that existed in the 1st Italian Republic.  And with Aleksander Dugin, because why not.

Evola's fascism was sufficiently weird (spiritual racism + European Imperium) and aristocratic that the SS kept an eye on him at one point, and that point of distinction is what saved him after WWII, despite otherwise being a supporter of Mussolini.

He's pretty esoteric in both senses of the word, so that Bannon is aware of him is...disturbing.  Of course, this does allow for hilarious juxtapositions with his stated position of defending "Judeo-Christian" civilization against the Great Islamic Menace as well as his collaboration with traditionalist factions within the Vatican. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on February 10, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Yeah, he's a bit like a walking Dan Brown novel now. :lulz: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2017, 11:42:15 PM
And some of the information in the Steele dossier has been confirmed

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html

QuoteWashington (CNN)For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.

None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.

But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.

The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say.

Reached for comment this afternoon, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said, "We continue to be disgusted by CNN's fake news reporting."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 14, 2017, 02:28:08 PM
Flynn gone. 24 days, some kind of record.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38965557

QuoteUS National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has resigned over allegations he discussed US sanctions with Russia before Donald Trump took office.
Mr Flynn is said to have misled officials about his call with Russia's ambassador before his own appointment.
It is illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy.

Who's next? Taking all bets!

Kelly "Huck this cheap crap" conway at 5/2

Jeff "Black crime is worse, y'all" at 6/4.

Betsy "I couldn't actually spell anything over 5 letters if you paid me" devos at 5/1

Rex "I'm covered in grease!" tillerson at 3/1.

Sean "ALL IS WELL" spicer at 2/1.

Add your own.

At this point, it's probably worth asking which of the selected clowns are actually going to last the 4 years. I'm pretty sure that 50% won't make it to the 2 year mark. Expecting exceptionally wealthy people to act in the public interest is just silly at the best of times, so how long do you really need to stick in a post before you've made your mates some money? Surely you can get that shit done in less than a year and now they seriously owe you. Why stick around longer? You don't need the money and you certainly don't care about either the job or public perceptions.

You can just see some fun coming with the sackings/accepting resignations. Sooner or later (probably sooner) he's just going to sack someone. And then there will be a little road to Damascus moment for that particular cretin as they try and save face or mitigate the damage they've just done. Or just as a simple fuck you bit of revenge. I'm pretty sure that that's when the attacks on the media will really start up.



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 01:00:07 PM
Donald "tiny-handed Nixon" Trump?

Seriously, this is bad for Trump.  In addition to today's reports that the Trump election team had persistent ongoing contacts with individuals considered Russian intelligence assets, allegedly picked up during routine intelligence gathering on those assets, the question now is "what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

There's also the question of "who was Flynn working on the behalf of when he went to meet with the Russian ambassador?"

Meanwhile, Russia is getting increasingly nervous about Trump's irrationality and their percieved ownership of his stumbling.  If I was a short-term thinker, like I suspect Putin is, and I was in Putin's position, I'd blow this whole thing up in a month or so.  Instigate a constitutional crisis, while US agencies are still decapitated and reeling from a loss of experienced staff.  Keep the executive branch so on the defensive and battling Senate investigations (you know McCain is gearing up for this already) that it has no cognitive bandwidth for anything else.  Double down on the FN in France and fighting in the Donbass while you can and if you have to, blame the whole thing on rogue operatives and use it to purge your own radical right enemies in Russia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 15, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
So.....

Are we in "we're all doomed, make your time" mode, or is this a "while the US flails, Russia will expand its empire" thing?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 02:32:12 PM
I'm assuming a short-term crisis (maybe 18 months), with Russia making hay while the sun shines.

But after this election, who knows?  It wouldn't take much to portray this as a deep state coup against an outsider President.  Throw in The Donald throwing a tantrum and refusing to, say, stand down...I'm not going to say it, because I don't like throwing the term around lightly, and talking about potential political violence can lead to actual political violence, but I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this.

I don't think it's as likely as the first option, but it's something to keep in mind. It's also worth keeping in mind that Russia has an economy roughly the size of Portugal and is fighting in Ukraine and Syria.  They likely cannot afford to make more trouble through overt means, not without risking economic collapse.  So in their position, sticking to needling NATO through subversive hacks and attempt to obtain resolution on those two conflicts would be my aim.  It would put me in a stronger position should there be negative fallout from the former (like the entire US establishment deciding Russia needs to be taught a lesson).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 15, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/how-the-trump-regime-was-manufactured-by-a-war-inside-the-deep-state/

I don't buy the overall thesis, but if you want an overview of the people coalescing around Trump, this is a good guide.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 15, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 15, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/how-the-trump-regime-was-manufactured-by-a-war-inside-the-deep-state/

I don't buy the overall thesis, but if you want an overview of the people coalescing around Trump, this is a good guide.

Perhaps it's too much of simply stating the obvious, but I think that this sentence stands alone as a concise summary:

QuoteTrump appears to be in conflict with the bulk of the US intelligence community, and is actively seeking to restructure the government to minimize checks and balances, and thus consolidate his executive power.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 15, 2017, 11:50:47 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 14, 2017, 02:28:08 PM
Flynn gone. 24 days, some kind of record.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38965557

QuoteUS National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has resigned over allegations he discussed US sanctions with Russia before Donald Trump took office.
Mr Flynn is said to have misled officials about his call with Russia's ambassador before his own appointment.
It is illegal for private citizens to conduct US diplomacy.

Who's next? Taking all bets!

Kelly "Huck this cheap crap" conway at 5/2

Jeff "Black crime is worse, y'all" at 6/4.

Betsy "I couldn't actually spell anything over 5 letters if you paid me" devos at 5/1

Rex "I'm covered in grease!" tillerson at 3/1.

Sean "ALL IS WELL" spicer at 2/1.

Add your own.

At this point, it's probably worth asking which of the selected clowns are actually going to last the 4 years. I'm pretty sure that 50% won't make it to the 2 year mark. Expecting exceptionally wealthy people to act in the public interest is just silly at the best of times, so how long do you really need to stick in a post before you've made your mates some money? Surely you can get that shit done in less than a year and now they seriously owe you. Why stick around longer? You don't need the money and you certainly don't care about either the job or public perceptions.

You can just see some fun coming with the sackings/accepting resignations. Sooner or later (probably sooner) he's just going to sack someone. And then there will be a little road to Damascus moment for that particular cretin as they try and save face or mitigate the damage they've just done. Or just as a simple fuck you bit of revenge. I'm pretty sure that that's when the attacks on the media will really start up.

Miller is next.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 16, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
I think it might be Priebus.  If Bannon takes him down, then Trump will be listening to Bannon, Miller (who is a mini-Bannon) and Jared Kushner.  Unless Ivanka leaves Kushner for Justin Trudeau, there's no way to get rid of him, but it stacks the deck in Bannon's favour, and means the RNC will be more reliant on Bannon than ever.

Priebus is already being blamed by the far-right for the Flynn debacle (don't ask how that makes sense...probably something to do with J000000000s), so the scene is being set.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 16, 2017, 04:35:32 PM
Incidentally, I called that Harwood would be the replacement National Security Advisor for Trump 24 hours before he announced it.

You want to know how?  Easy, I just looked at who had the least negative opinions towards Russia out of the three potential candidates.  And lo and behold, Harwood is that one (though to be fair, his thinking on this topic is less "Put1n is aWeSomE <33333" and more "we could use anti-ISIS operations as the starting point to better relations with Russia").  But in comparison to Kellog and Petraeus, that is a marked difference in opinion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 16, 2017, 11:16:35 PM
Just been looking at some of idiots (Lets just refer to trump as this, its more honest and easier to read) comments regarding Israel and the 1/2 state issue. Idiot clearly has no fucking clue here. "I like what both of them like". Assuming idiot is referring to bannon/miller. Because he can't possibly be talking about Israel or Palestine. Surely idiot isn't that stupid?

Anyone want to guess the start date of the next intifada? I reckon around June. It's practically guaranteed to come now. Betting a bowl of hummus idiots advisers use that as an excuse to push 1-state solution and royally screw over Palestinians. Again.


In other news psychiatrists have written an open letter with accusations of narcissistic personality disorder. I find this unfair. The problem isn't narcissism, its that idiot is irredeemably,hopelessly stupid and becoming the literal archetype for all things dunning-Kruger.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 01:25:23 AM
Hey. Hey kid, want to see the shittiest survey questions you'll see this week?

httpx://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/

Includes such idiocy as:
QuoteDo you believe that if Republicans were obstructing Obama like Democrats are doing to President Trump, the mainstream media would attack Republicans?
Words fail me
QuoteDo you trust Fox News to report fairly on Trump's presidency?
"Tell us where to spend our advertising cash!" Same question on multiple other outlets.
QuoteWere you aware that a poll was released revealing that a majority of Americans actually supported President Trump's temporary restriction executive order?
No link provided to this poll. I can't find it with google either. Feel free to add post it if you know where/what it is, I bet the methodology is hilarious.

Of 25 questions, around 20 involve the questions starting like "do you believe"

It's like a poll of "How successful have we been in making you swallow our bullshit? Very or highly? Should we go much further, or way further?"

Before you waste your time having fun, name, email address and zip code are required to "record your vote". Presumably funny answers and accurate information here will identify illegal aliens and assist in deportations. However, I suspect like the rest of the administration it's horribly deficient so having a few hundred "Tiffany trump"'s/"Hilary Clinton"/"Alec Baldwin" at the white house/clinton foundation/SNL zip codes with an email of "fuckyou@glowinthedarkface.com" may just provoke the idiot. Just a thought. It's not like the results will be reported honestly in any event so provoking a twitter rant over misuse it is probably the best approach rather than letting it work as another echo chamber for the luminous cretin.





Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:26:11 AM
Harward turned down Trump's National Security Advisor role  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 17, 2017, 01:26:45 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:26:11 AM
Harward turned down Trump's National Security Advisor role  :lulz:

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:31:21 AM
He worked with Mattis before, so I wonder if he told him to run away and never look back?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 01:32:45 AM
BBC:
QuoteA White House official said Mr Harward cited family and financial commitments, but US media said the sticking point was he wanted to bring in his own team.

By own team, I assume he means "Competent,vetted people".

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 01:36:34 AM
Ah wait, it turns out the BBC is just fake news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:44:06 AM
"Tell Steve Bannon to fuck off."  I'm only guessing, but...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 17, 2017, 02:27:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:26:11 AM
Harward turned down Trump's National Security Advisor role  :lulz:

This is awesome.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2017, 02:45:54 AM
Reckon General "but his emails" Petraeus will be asked?  I think he's too anti-Russia, but if Trump wants to throw a bone to the party...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2017, 03:25:52 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 01:36:34 AM
Ah wait, it turns out the BBC is just fake news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39000118

:horrormirth:

Something about that guy rang so wrong with me that by the end of the interview my eyebrows hurt. I had been making a face so hard for 3 minutes my forehead muscles cramped a little bit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2017, 03:33:31 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/journalists-react-president-trump-crazy-press-conference-233852174.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/journalists-react-president-trump-crazy-press-conference-233852174.html)


QuoteSmith then started to look into the camera and added, "Really? Your opposition was hacked, and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone on the same day it was happening, and we are fools for asking those questions? No sir, we are not fools for asking those questions, and we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people."

Smith was defending CNN correspondent Jim Acosta.

*aside to 4th wall here on your computer screen*

You better believe it folks! This is a FOX NEWS ANCHOR that just can't even anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 17, 2017, 03:40:38 AM
Fox staff go off script more often than you may think. They just churn them and a lot of other shit out at a quick pace. Then pretend they never existed. Remember the guy who started ranting about the two man con? Me neither.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 17, 2017, 01:15:16 PM
Shep Smith in particular has some credibility.  He is conservative, but he remembers he is actually a journalist first, and a pretty good one at that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-christie-president-trump-made-190620661.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-christie-president-trump-made-190620661.html)

So I opened this feeling like  :lulz: :lulz:

Then I kinda just lost my  :lulz: went to  :horrormirth:  amd now just  :kingmeh:

Because appears that embedded in that article was this,

QuoteRELATED VIDEO: Watch: Natasha Stoynoff Breaks Silence, Accuses Donald Trump of Sexual Attack
I think it was a link, but it's not a link anymore.

Did a Google vid search finding only stuff a WEEK old at earliest from youtube. 2 videos.

Google results (https://www.google.com/search?q=Natasha+Stoynoff+Breaks+Silence&prmd=nvi&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUyJnGnpjSAhVK1CYKHV2rASgQ_AUICCgC&biw=480&bih=780)

I'm going to watch them now, but it would seem a bit of fuckery just took place.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 17, 2017, 11:15:21 PM
Addendum

The videos are nearly identical and on very low view count.

One has a very brief break to an application of some sort and of much lower quality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2017, 11:43:22 PM
I have Yahoo blocked from my browser.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 18, 2017, 12:07:58 AM
I can take a screen cap if you like.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2017, 04:26:57 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 18, 2017, 12:07:58 AM
I can take a screen cap if you like.

Is it worth it, or are there 28 other news stories exactly like it on other news outlets?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2017, 04:28:28 AM
Or maybe 280

or 2800
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 18, 2017, 04:54:27 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2017, 04:28:28 AM
Or maybe 280

or 2800

The story is shit and I wouldn't bother to have shared it if not for the weird, bolded non-link quoted above. It's mildly amusing to me.

I don't actually give a shit about what Trump and Christie had for dinner or that Trump still has him by for a dog to kick around.

It's the weird traces of a vid about his abuses that I found in addition upon further search that seemed worth posting about.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
Obligatory Chris Christie is mentioned gif

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-30-2016/hwP00V.gif)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2017, 10:50:57 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-intelligence-community-ready-go-nuclear-donald-trump-russia-nsa-a7585926.html

QuoteSecurity consultant and ex-National Security Agency (NSA) employee, John Schindler said he had received an email from a senior intelligence agent discussing the President.

It opened with the words: "He will die in jail", he said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 18, 2017, 11:08:38 PM
That warms my heart right up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2017, 11:19:11 PM
Ah, but who else will be joining him?

It's the unexpected bonus of the prison pipelines, they're not fussy about who gets in.

On a different note, working my way through that stupid conference the other day. Idiot actually states that he would have instructed Flynn to do what he did, if he hadn't already done so. That's kind of odd. "If he hadn't had already broken the law I would have instructed him to do so and now he's sacked because he did". This isn't Orwell, it's Monty python.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 18, 2017, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 18, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
Obligatory Chris Christie is mentioned gif

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-30-2016/hwP00V.gif)

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 19, 2017, 08:05:19 PM
Just FYI, Schindler is a little crazy, in that way ex-spies tend to go.  He may not be wrong, and he has the credentials and contacts, but he's the definition of an unreliable narrator.  "Trust, but verify" applies to him (he was right about the IC witholding intelligence from the White House).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 19, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
That makes sense. I somehow doubt a capable and well-grounded spy would blab about internal IC matters on twitter.

And anyway, there's something off about spies who go around saying, "LOOK, I AM/WAS A SPY. NBD." Seems like a poor practice for clandestine work.

Or do spies do that all the time?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2017, 12:16:35 AM
Most spies also don't send dick picks which get posted all over social media.  Schindler is...special.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2017, 05:26:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2017, 12:16:35 AM
Most spies also don't send dick picks which get posted all over social media.  Schindler is...special.

All the great spies of yore were fantastic perverts.  I am glad to see the tradition continue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2017, 06:10:32 AM
Why couldn't he just get his jollies watching great apes have sex, like Maxwell Knight?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2017, 06:32:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2017, 06:10:32 AM
Why couldn't he just get his jollies watching great apes have sex, like Maxwell Knight?

I am opposed to dictating perversions.  I know I don't want anyone telling ME how to get my monkey on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 20, 2017, 06:49:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2017, 12:16:35 AM
Most spies also don't send dick picks which get posted all over social media.

Does anybody else wish that something like this would come up in the next James Bond movie?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 20, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
Today the mother of parliaments debated a petition from one and a half million British subjects who want to stop the orange ranger from being offered a state visit, because it will be a horrible embarrassment to her majesty. While the House was debating this some news broke which should make a difference to how the question is viewed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-39032062
QuoteMuslim teacher 'denied entry to US' on school trip From the section South West Wales

There was also a little baby petition with very very small hands signed by 300,000 people who want Rump to come. I would like to think that they want an opportunity to heckle and boo him but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.

Also This happened on the 16th; I mean haven't the US courts nixed this shit temporarily? FFS America, a British teacher? WTF?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 21, 2017, 01:43:40 PM
"Teaching while brown" would be my guess.

Idiot is picking up some cracking supporters too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-39027611

QuotePresident Donald Trump Idiot should be given a chance to prove himself, Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe says.
He went on to express his support for Mr Trump's America-first policy, saying "America for Americans" and "Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans".

QuotePresident Mugabe, Africa's oldest head of state, also repeated that he is not ready to step down from power.
"The majority of the people feel that there is no replacement, successor who to them is acceptable, as acceptable as I am," he told state media.
His Zanu-PF party has endorsed Mr Mugabe as its candidate in elections due next year.
Last week, first lady Grace Mugabe said if the party were to field his corpse, he would still win.

Here's hoping they put that to the test.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 21, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 21, 2017, 01:43:40 PM

QuotePresident Donald Trump Idiot should be given a chance to prove himself, Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe says.
He went on to express his support for Mr Trump's America-first policy, saying "America for WHITE  Americans" and "Zimbabwe for BLACK Zimbabweans".

ftfy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 21, 2017, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 20, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
Today the mother of parliaments debated a petition from one and a half million British subjects who want to stop the orange ranger from being offered a state visit, because it will be a horrible embarrassment to her majesty. While the House was debating this some news broke which should make a difference to how the question is viewed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-39032062
QuoteMuslim teacher 'denied entry to US' on school trip From the section South West Wales

There was also a little baby petition with very very small hands signed by 300,000 people who want Rump to come. I would like to think that they want an opportunity to heckle and boo him but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.

Also This happened on the 16th; I mean haven't the US courts nixed this shit temporarily? FFS America, a British teacher? WTF?

I can see how the president might view anybody capable of imparting knowledge as a direct threat
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 21, 2017, 02:51:39 PM
He was carrying illegal algebra on him.  Which is doubly bad because algebra is Arabic in the first place.  You can tell because it has "al" in front of it.  "Al"gebra, "al"cohol, "Al" Capone...all Muslim, all dangerous.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 21, 2017, 03:01:14 PM
More seriously, I'm surprised by Trump's new National Security Advisor choice.  Not least because, despite the creeping militarisation of the Trump cabinet (note how many non-military NSA's Trump has proposed? None) he actually seems competent.  He's also known for not mincing his words with people above him in the chain of command and challenging conventional thinking.  Basically, unless he's also some complete nut on China or Muslims or something, he's exactly the kind of person I could see bumping heads with Trump constantly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 21, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2017, 03:01:14 PM
More seriously, I'm surprised by Trump's new National Security Advisor choice.  Not least because, despite the creeping militarisation of the Trump cabinet (note how many non-military NSA's Trump has proposed? None) he actually seems competent.  He's also known for not mincing his words with people above him in the chain of command and challenging conventional thinking.  Basically, unless he's also some complete nut on China or Muslims or something, he's exactly the kind of person I could see bumping heads with Trump constantly.

I always figured the finale of this act was a tossup between an open topped limo ride through Dallas or a military coup. Looks like the scriptwriters are keeping their options open.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 21, 2017, 05:31:17 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 21, 2017, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 20, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
Today the mother of parliaments debated a petition from one and a half million British subjects who want to stop the orange ranger from being offered a state visit, because it will be a horrible embarrassment to her majesty. While the House was debating this some news broke which should make a difference to how the question is viewed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-39032062
QuoteMuslim teacher 'denied entry to US' on school trip From the section South West Wales

There was also a little baby petition with very very small hands signed by 300,000 people who want Rump to come. I would like to think that they want an opportunity to heckle and boo him but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.

Also This happened on the 16th; I mean haven't the US courts nixed this shit temporarily? FFS America, a British teacher? WTF?

I can see how the president might view anybody capable of imparting knowledge as a direct threat

More details, if that's what you can call them:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-39037385

QuoteMuslim teacher denied entry to the United States while on a school trip said he has still not been told why.
Juhel Miah, 25, told BBC Wales: "All I want is a reason, I want to know why they kicked me off the flight."

I'm sticking with "teaching while brown" until a better answer appears.

This is interesting though:

QuoteIn the letter, Mr Jones says he understands Mr Miah was "escorted from the aircraft by US Homeland Security personnel".

So the US is pulling this shit preemptively in nations where they have no jurisdiction. Think about that for a minute. Not turned away when arriving at US immigration, this shit went down in iceland. It's a pretty small step from this to just arbitrarily restricting movement of people between non US countries, because fuck you.

No official statement from anyone yet which I would suggest means that one is not going to be forthcoming anytime soon, if ever. If there was a clear cut and simple reason like "his brother is a known terrorist" it would have been shouted from the rooftops by now.

I'll give you 3/1 odds on a disparaging statement made about idiot/the US made on social media for the reason for removal.

1/1 still on "teaching while not white".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 21, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/20/technology/trump-websites/index.html

QuoteBefore he reached the White House, Trump's company had laid claim to at least 3,643 website domains, according to internet records gathered by CNNMoney.

QuoteFor example, he bought TrumpNetwork.com in 2007 in preparation to launch a multi-level marketing company, in the style of Amway and Herbalife. This is a controversial type of business that offers people the promise of self-employment and high salary as long as they recruit others -- who in turn must find even more recruits.
MLMs, as they're called, are often accused of being pyramid schemes. Trump saw that coming.
In the months before he launched Trump Network in 2009, he acquired TrumpMultiLevelMarketing.com, TrumpNetworkFraud.com, TrumpNetworkPyramidScheme.com, TrumpNetworkPonziScheme.com and 15 similar iterations. He sold the business in 2012.
"Whoever bought those domains was already thinking those allegations might be raised. Most reputable organizations do not go out and buy these kinds of websites. Most companies are not going to engage in activities that would cause this kind of blowback," said Bruce Rubin, senior counselor at rbb Communications in Miami who is one of the top crisis public relations experts in the country.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 21, 2017, 07:53:32 PM
He didn't register ImpeachTrump.com though  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 23, 2017, 06:38:28 PM
So, as a rule, I recommend not reading the HuffPo or linking to them, due to their policies on not paying writers.

I'm making an exception here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-anton-trump-essay-publius-decius-mus_us_589ba947e4b09bd304bff3c8
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2017, 07:53:32 PM
He didn't register ImpeachTrump.com though  :lulz:

I'm not sure if that's a silly oversight if the oversized ego of the idiot refused to see it coming.

The who.is indicates it was registered in 2011 so the owner has some respectable prophecy skills at least.

QuoteRegistrant Contact Information:
NameRegistration Private
OrganizationDomains By Proxy, LLC
AddressDomainsByProxy.com
Address14455 N. Hayden Road
CityScottsdale
State / ProvinceAZ
Postal Code85260
CountryUS
Phone+1.4806242599
Fax+1.4806242598

....Roger? Care to make a call and shed some light?

ETA - if who.is data posting is a no-no feel free to redact or tell me to. Its public data so I didn't see a problem but given the odd crazy fuck we get here I can see why it may be unwise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on February 23, 2017, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 23, 2017, 06:38:28 PM
So, as a rule, I recommend not reading the HuffPo or linking to them, due to their policies on not paying writers.

I'm making an exception here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-anton-trump-essay-publius-decius-mus_us_589ba947e4b09bd304bff3c8

These people scare me a hell of a lot more than Trump. They are going to worm their way in forever now. At least, that's how it seems, like they know it's OK to come out from whatever rock mass public guilt from the Holocaust put them under.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 24, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Two names for you.

Felix Satter and Semion Mogilevich.  Satter links to the Bayrock Group.  Mogilevich allegedly links to Satter and Manafort.

Have fun now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2017, 09:07:17 PM
For those of you who didn't google the above names, here you go, you filthy degenerates:

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/

QuoteSo what have we learned from this deep dive into the network of Donald Trump's Russian/FSU connections?

First, the President-elect really is very "well-connected," with an extensive network of unsavory global underground connections that may well be unprecedented in White House history. In choosing his associates, evidently Donald Trump only pays cursory attention to questions of background, character, and integrity.

Second, Donald Trump has also literally spent decades cultivating senior relationships of all kinds with Russia and the FSU. And public and private senior Russian figures of all kinds have likewise spent decades cultivating him, not only as a business partner, but as a "useful idiot."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 25, 2017, 10:28:21 PM
Yeah... kleptocracy doesn't even begin to describe the situation. I'd been told some time ago he was in balls deep debt to the "Russian Mafia". At a certain level the line between criminal syndicate and government sanctioned ops blurs. A very messy shadow war is the inevitable outcome. For my part I'm just focused on getting and keeping my shit together, hopefully supporting some good causes.

Don't tell the kids. Nobody really WANTS to know how dirty shit is behind the curtains.  :fnord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2017, 10:46:58 PM
Mogilevich himself is much more than just a gangster, though.  Litvinenko said he was good friends with Putin, shortly before he had a nice cup of polonium, and that could just be coincidence, except for the FBI stating he is responsible for a slew of contract killings and trafficking in nuclear material besides.   Mogilevich has also been linked to Al-Qaeda, supplying them weapons.  He also owns banks, oil and gas interests, and is a frequent "silent partner" to oligarchs such as Dmytro Firtash...who previously employed The Donald's campaign manager, Paul Manafort.

Given how the FSB protects the Solntsevskaya Bratva, the idea that Mogilevich isn't spooked up is not credible.  Especially since he still freely walks around Moscow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 25, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
Yeah. See the thing, as I see it, is that there's no actual "Illuminati" in control of everything, but there ARE folks so far up the pyramid that to suggest otherwise to them would be a rather silly thing to do. There may not actually be anybody driving the bus, but there are definitely folks fighting over the title of official bus driver. Some of them are more competitive about it than others.

I don't know how far the craziness actually goes, but it's really clear to me from events and persons that have been part of my life that more than one set of hidden hands is at work in our world and that certain kinds of power and knowledge are NOT to be shared openly with the "masses" if you know what's good for you.

KYFMS is a survival axiom. I got shitall else to say.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 01:45:50 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 25, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
Yeah. See the thing, as I see it, is that there's no actual "Illuminati" in control of everything, but there ARE folks so far up the pyramid that to suggest otherwise to them would be a rather silly thing to do. There may not actually be anybody driving the bus, but there are definitely folks fighting over the title of official bus driver. Some of them are more competitive about it than others.

I don't know how far the craziness actually goes, but it's really clear to me from events and persons that have been part of my life that more than one set of hidden hands is at work in our world and that certain kinds of power and knowledge are NOT to be shared openly with the "masses" if you know what's good for you.

KYFMS is a survival axiom. I got shitall else to say.

So you are proposing a level of government that transcends bureaucracy?

I doubt it. Bureaucracy is an inverse pyramid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 01:52:57 AM
The higher up you get, the more surrounded and bogged down by bureaucracy you become, to the point where it becomes more and more difficult to effect change at lower levels. People who make it to the top in a democracy are usually masters of wrangling bureaucracy, having spent many years navigating the ropes of writing, proposing, revising, compromising on, and voting for legislation. That deep knowledge of the horrors of bureaucracy -- the system -- is what allows people like, say, Hillary Clinton to be a relatively effective politician, ie. a leader who moves policy in the direction her constituents want it to go in.

There is a way to get to be the eye in the pyramid; that's called "a dictatorship". It cuts through the bureaucracy, permitting the leader at the top of the pyramid to make unilateral decisions and effect rapid change. You can see how well that usually goes by looking at any dictatorship ever. Without the tangles of bureaucracy to slow things down, a dictator can be solely responsible for making decisions that effect sweeping changes, all alone at the top, which is also the position they will be in when the mobs come.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 01:56:43 AM
Oh, and then there's Trump, who is neither. Sit back and enjoy the clusterfuck in action, because there are two generally predictable ways this can go; either our bureaucratic system works, and he becomes the lamest lame duck president since Jimmy Carter, or he manages to transcend bureaucracy, which will be a complete and utter shitshow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2017, 02:25:46 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 01:45:50 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 25, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
Yeah. See the thing, as I see it, is that there's no actual "Illuminati" in control of everything, but there ARE folks so far up the pyramid that to suggest otherwise to them would be a rather silly thing to do. There may not actually be anybody driving the bus, but there are definitely folks fighting over the title of official bus driver. Some of them are more competitive about it than others.

I don't know how far the craziness actually goes, but it's really clear to me from events and persons that have been part of my life that more than one set of hidden hands is at work in our world and that certain kinds of power and knowledge are NOT to be shared openly with the "masses" if you know what's good for you.

KYFMS is a survival axiom. I got shitall else to say.

So you are proposing a level of government that transcends bureaucracy?

I doubt it. Bureaucracy is an inverse pyramid.

No. I know for a fact that Government is not the most powerful or influential factor in our world. As much as I love me some reason and good social order those things are overshadowed by forceful coercion and superstition to this day, in some cases it serves these factors directly. International finance, religion, and the power of violence are very much how things are done in our world, but none of that is what most folks living day to day lives know or want. I certainly don't, but I can't change what IS.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 01:56:43 AM
Oh, and then there's Trump, who is neither. Sit back and enjoy the clusterfuck in action, because there are two generally predictable ways this can go; either our bureaucratic system works, and he becomes the lamest lame duck president since Jimmy Carter, or he manages to transcend bureaucracy, which will be a complete and utter shitshow.

The shitshow is just barely beginning. The good news is that he and what he represents are not unopposed. Nobody that isn't already crazy wants THAT eschaton, but the crazies are now in power so... 

:weary: <--- this is where I'm at on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 26, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
The government certainly doesn't have a monopoly on power, but legitimate power's center of gravity is in government. The reservoirs of power outside the government are fractious and competitive. They seldom manage to consolidate into an effective counterweight to government power that can bark orders without going through official channels, at least not on a massive or widespread scale. They compete to capture that center of gravity into their own orbits. Bureaucracy in this metaphor would, I guess, be the stiff medium through which that mass must be pulled, and it acts sort of like a non-Newtonian fluid  in that it strongly resists abrupt movements, and attempts to break that barrier are either stopped more or less cold, or if they can act with sufficient force, cause the fabric of that bureaucracy to shear or shatter.

So I guess the question is whether Trump's admittedly intense efforts carry enough mass with them to do lasting damage to the bureaucratic order. So far, the resistance seems to be holding as various forces align in direct opposition to his efforts and a lot of the energy Trump is putting into the system is lost to friction and apparently aimless indecision, and much of his original "mass" of support evaporates. But Trump's administration and a large part of his support in the public form a core of fundamentally hostile actors who are very openly trying to undermine and destroy the bureaucratic order. So... we'll see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2017, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 26, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
The government certainly doesn't have a monopoly on power, but legitimate power's center of gravity is in government. The reservoirs of power outside the government are fractious and competitive. They seldom manage to consolidate into an effective counterweight to government power that can bark orders without going through official channels, at least not on a massive or widespread scale. They compete to capture that center of gravity into their own orbits. Bureaucracy in this metaphor would, I guess, be the stiff medium through which that mass must be pulled, and it acts sort of like a non-Newtonian fluid  in that it strongly resists abrupt movements, and attempts to break that barrier are either stopped more or less cold, or if they can act with sufficient force, cause the fabric of that bureaucracy to shear or shatter.

So I guess the question is whether Trump's admittedly intense efforts carry enough mass with them to do lasting damage to the bureaucratic order. So far, the resistance seems to be holding as various forces align in direct opposition to his efforts and a lot of the energy Trump is putting into the system is lost to friction and apparently aimless indecision, and much of his original "mass" of support evaporates. But Trump's administration and a large part of his support in the public form a core of fundamentally hostile actors who are very openly trying to undermine and destroy the bureaucratic order. So... we'll see.

It's been a long time since we've had such a stark reminder that order and disorder may be in a state of tension, but that the goal is to maintain a balance between the two, not to destroy order.

Bureaucracy maintains a status quo that often contains stifling and oppressive elements, so it is frustrating to try to chip away at those elements trying to get them to change. In those cases, Grayface seems like the enemy, rigidly clinging to protocols and channels and hierarchy. But Grayface clings to those protocols and channels and hierarchy when people try to change the status quo to make things MORE stifling and oppressive, as well.

Grayface is bureaucracy. Grayface is the court system. Grayface is the fair trial. Grayface is filling out paperwork. Grayface is going through the proper channels. Grayface is compromise. Grayface is ten years from proposing a bill to passing the modified version into law. Grayface is checks and balances.

This doesn't mean that those who prefer disorder have to work for Grayface. But it is a reminder to appreciate Grayface, because it is as necessary as the forces of Discord are for STRIFE, which is the interface between order and disorder.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
vex, you seem to be forgetting that this is the tRump century. Your ideas about legitimate power lying with government sound so quaintly old-fashioned, like that Victorians covering up piano legs in the interests of modesty; which is another fake fact. Government power, in what for the moment are still nominally free democracies, will only obtain until someone comes along with the will, guile and cash to stage a buy out. Read some Hobbes, try the Leviathan, you can see the thought processes behind the development of our modern beliefs about power. Power in its essence is neither legitimate nor illegitimate it is merely wielded.
Just in case you didn't want to sleep comfortably yu might try this piece too,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_tw

also Nigel is right re. the order/disorder thingy. Discordians have spent years mulling over this shit. Who knew we would end up on the white hot edge of political thinking?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 26, 2017, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
vex, you seem to be forgetting that this is the tRump century. Your ideas about legitimate power lying with government sound so quaintly old-fashioned, like that Victorians covering up piano legs in the interests of modesty; which is another fake fact. Government power, in what for the moment are still nominally free democracies, will only obtain until someone comes along with the will, guile and cash to stage a buy out. Read some Hobbes, try the Leviathan, you can see the thought processes behind the development of our modern beliefs about power. Power in its essence is neither legitimate nor illegitimate it is merely wielded.
Just in case you didn't want to sleep comfortably yu might try this piece too,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_tw

also Nigel is right re. the order/disorder thingy. Discordians have spent years mulling over this shit. Who knew we would end up on the white hot edge of political thinking?

I meant "legitimate" facetiously and in the general consensus that if power is going to be wielded, it must be done so through the government. "Legitimacy" isn't a real thing, it's just a stamp on the exercise of power. You're right that who controls the stamp at any time isn't controlled by the government itself, especially not since the government's own mass of power has been under sustained attacked for half a century. But we're not yet at the point where power can be directly exercised without that stamp of legitimacy with complete impunity for very long.

I'm not talking so much about how the system was designed, but about how it functionally works. The government does have the advantage of perceived legitimacy which acts as a force multiplier for hard power, whereas a throng of brownshirts don't. So it's the brownshirts' objective to usurp the "legitimacy" of government power in order to curbstomp their way to actual power. Just like it's every competing political or economic group's objective to ensnare the government's "legitimate" power and influence into orbit around their own. Sure, someday we might get to a point where corporate armies enact company policy despite the legality of doing so, but more likely is that they will just make it legal in the first place by influencing "legitimate" policy and removing the bureaucratic obstacles.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
You know, if we'd been having this conversation last year I would have totally agreed with you. In my wilful liberal naivete I don't think I had ever really though that the purchasing, lock stock and barrel, of a modern western democracy was actually a possible outcome of, well anything really. My political gamut ran from get elected and run with the current system to overthrow this system it sucks lets try to get it right next time. Being "Owned" in a literal monetary sense never actually occurred to me as being a thing which might happen. I kind of thought that when it came to politics the aim was to win the game not to buy the casino.

So from where I'm currently looking:-
QuoteSure, someday we might get to a point where corporate armies enact company policy despite the legality of doing so, but more likely is that they will just make it legal in the first place by influencing "legitimate" policy and removing the bureaucratic obstacles.
you have got your tenses wrong
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2017, 07:41:02 PM
Trump thinks some of the recent wave of threats and vandalism directed at Jews may be "false flags"

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/836653660864147456
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2017, 01:35:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2017, 07:41:02 PM
Trump thinks some of the recent wave of threats and vandalism directed at Jews may be "false flags"

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/836653660864147456

Buried in this article is mention that the investigation is focusing on an overseas origin to the calls

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/28/us/bomb-threats-jewish-centers-jcc/

This is the first mention of any such overseas angle, and coming so shortly after Trump's comments...I'm suspicious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2017, 01:49:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 01, 2017, 01:35:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2017, 07:41:02 PM
Trump thinks some of the recent wave of threats and vandalism directed at Jews may be "false flags"

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/836653660864147456

Buried in this article is mention that the investigation is focusing on an overseas origin to the calls

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/28/us/bomb-threats-jewish-centers-jcc/

This is the first mention of any such overseas angle, and coming so shortly after Trump's comments...I'm suspicious.

Yeah, I'm thinking that if they weren't before, they will be now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
My initial thinking was that this was a chan operation.  It's low cost, fairly low risk and undeniably effective.

According to Haaretz and Buzzfeed, the threats have used online anonymity services and computer produced voices to actually phone in the threats.  That also means the threats could come from - and look like they come from - anywhere in the world, even though a good 90% of channers are Anglosphere (which matches up with some of the earlier calls also targeting Canadian and British Jewish schools).  We also know /pol/ is basically daycare for baby Stormfronters, so this wouldn't be exactly surprising.

There could be an Islamic angle to this, but it seems somewhat unlikely - if you're angry at Jews and a Muslim, Hamas and ISIS are still recruiting, last I heard.  But it's not impossible - Junaid Hussain was formerly a member of TeaMp0ison before he went off to head up the ISIS Cyber Caliphate (and was subsequently missiled until he was dead).  TeaMp0ison had crossover with the Anonymous hacktivist wing, and it's not impossible that there has been further cross-pollination and adoption of tactics.

But the headstones...well that has to be internal.  No way around that.  I doubt someone is going to fly in from WhereverTheHell to smash up some graveyards.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 01, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
Just in case you didn't want to sleep comfortably yu might try this piece too,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_tw

Regarding the part about manipulation vis social media, I'd just like to say that I knew social media was evil from the start
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 01, 2017, 06:32:24 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 01, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
Just in case you didn't want to sleep comfortably yu might try this piece too,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_tw

Regarding the part about manipulation vis social media, I'd just like to say that I knew social media was evil from the start

:roll:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2017, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 01, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: MMIX on February 26, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
Just in case you didn't want to sleep comfortably yu might try this piece too,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=share_btn_tw

Regarding the part about manipulation vis social media, I'd just like to say that I knew social media was evil from the start

Then why are you here?

Forums are social media, you assleak.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 01, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
I mean modern social media. Twitter, facebook, instagram, etc.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2017, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 01, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
I mean modern social media. Twitter, facebook, instagram, etc.

They are no more modern than this forum.

You're demonizing popularity, and that's just dumb.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 01, 2017, 06:49:03 PM
You should have warned us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2017, 08:23:03 PM
It's worth noting that Mercer may be overstating his case.  He owns Cambridge Analytica who have claimed - without much evidence - to have had a significant impact on Trump's campaign.  It's great advertising, saying you helped a sure-fire loser win.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2017, 08:26:26 PM
Lets recall, Cambridge Analytica initially worked for Ted Cruz.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 02, 2017, 05:25:07 AM
Looks like Sessions perjured himself by lying under oath that he had contact with the Russian government during the election campaign.

Kislyak must be feeling awfully slighted by now.  All these conversations people have had with him, that they later on say they cannot recall.  Quite upsetting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 02, 2017, 05:52:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 02, 2017, 05:25:07 AM
Looks like Sessions perjured himself by lying under oath that he had contact with the Russian government during the election campaign.

Kislyak must be feeling awfully slighted by now.  All these conversations people have had with him, that they later on say they cannot recall.  Quite upsetting.

Yes, and I'm sure he'll have a sudden bout of integrity and resign. Any minute now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 02, 2017, 05:25:07 AM
Looks like Sessions perjured himself by lying under oath that he had contact with the Russian government during the election campaign.

Kislyak must be feeling awfully slighted by now.  All these conversations people have had with him, that they later on say they cannot recall.  Quite upsetting.

Having looked closely at the actual text of what he said, it may or may not be perjury. He claimed not to have spoken with any representative of or anyone associated with the Russian government about the Trump campaign. While I definitely agree that his responses were intentionally misleading and disingenuous, a lot rides on the wording of the questions, as he can deny that any conversation about the campaign took place, and I doubt there are any transcripts to prove otherwise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 02, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
True, the wording was quite...lawyerly.  The intent to decieve is fairly clear though, given how he initially claimed to not remember the meetings, and then claimed to remember precisely what was discussed.  Probably not enough for perjury...but enough that senior Republicans are requesting he remove himself from the FBI's Russia probe.  That's enough for me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2017, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 02, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
True, the wording was quite...lawyerly.  The intent to decieve is fairly clear though, given how he initially claimed to not remember the meetings, and then claimed to remember precisely what was discussed.  Probably not enough for perjury...but enough that senior Republicans are requesting he remove himself from the FBI's Russia probe.  That's enough for me.

Yes, I think that he has certainly proven himself disqualified to be involved on the investigating end, at the very, very least.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 02, 2017, 06:32:48 PM
This whole train-wreck is sort of beautiful. I feel bad for the people who are suffering because of these clowns and deeply fear becoming one of them before long.

But dear sweet JESUS. I remember missing the fun parts of W, making fun of his little gaffs and crimes against humanity. Trump is like W on crystal meth and tequila enemas. It's only been a month!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2017, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Salty on March 02, 2017, 06:32:48 PM
This whole train-wreck is sort of beautiful. I feel bad for the people who are suffering because of these clowns and deeply fear becoming one of them before long.

But dear sweet JESUS. I remember missing the fun parts of W, making fun of his little gaffs and crimes against humanity. Trump is like W on crystal meth and tequila enemas. It's only been a month!

It feels like years. It feels like there was never a time before Godchild-Emperor Trump. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Salty on March 02, 2017, 06:32:48 PM
This whole train-wreck is sort of beautiful. I feel bad for the people who are suffering because of these clowns and deeply fear becoming one of them before long.

But dear sweet JESUS. I remember missing the fun parts of W, making fun of his little gaffs and crimes against humanity. Trump is like W on crystal meth and tequila enemas. It's only been a month!

Poor W. He was The President Who Shouldn't Be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 03, 2017, 02:02:06 AM
The fact that I now look back on the W years as a time of unspoiled, naive innocence says a lot. Granted, I can only do that because of a certain melanin content in my skin and because I was not the direct target of the more sinister forces at work during W's reign of incompetence, but it's still surreal to go from what I thought was a disaster, to the relatively boring Obama years, to... whatever the fuck this is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 03, 2017, 02:12:55 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 03, 2017, 02:02:06 AM
The fact that I now look back on the W years as a time of unspoiled, naive innocence says a lot. Granted, I can only do that because of a certain melanin content in my skin and because I was not the direct target of the more sinister forces at work during W's reign of incompetence, but it's still surreal to go from what I thought was a disaster, to the relatively boring Obama years, to... whatever the fuck this is.

Here's the thing: Obama normalised the idiocy of Bush. When you can accept a smiling guy telling you that gitmo will continue then it becomes easier to accept an idiot shouting that it's not far enough. Drone use is frequent enough now to be unremarkable. Bet that changes with a few fuckups over the next couple of months.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 03, 2017, 03:23:18 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 03, 2017, 02:12:55 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 03, 2017, 02:02:06 AM
The fact that I now look back on the W years as a time of unspoiled, naive innocence says a lot. Granted, I can only do that because of a certain melanin content in my skin and because I was not the direct target of the more sinister forces at work during W's reign of incompetence, but it's still surreal to go from what I thought was a disaster, to the relatively boring Obama years, to... whatever the fuck this is.

Here's the thing: Obama normalised the idiocy of Bush. When you can accept a smiling guy telling you that gitmo will continue then it becomes easier to accept an idiot shouting that it's not far enough. Drone use is frequent enough now to be unremarkable. Bet that changes with a few fuckups over the next couple of months.



This is totally true. But I'm also aware that the presidency is not the supreme power that many people assume it is. There are so many forces with so much power contending for the opportunity to wield the presidential pen that the force of any one person's will can only do so much at that level. Guantanamo should have been closed and, legally, I'm sure that Obama could have forced the issue if he had wanted to. As Commander in Chief I'm not convinced that power was not safely within his authority to do. And 2008 Obama certainly did want to do it. So why didn't he? There's more to that story than "man corrupted by Washington swamp". There are people, organizations, and just realities that presidents contend with that undermine oversimplistic ideas about the "corrupting influence" of power and influence (though those do certainly corrupt).

What I was getting at with that comment though is how odd a feeling it is to go from despising that accidental "shadow government" (no, not the Illuminati, but the hidden intersection of so many opposing strategies, bureaucracies, and agendas) to having to hope it is powerful enough to stymie a madman like Trump and thwart his administration's overtly Fascist intentions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 03, 2017, 04:47:20 AM
The WSJ is reporting that Session's Cleveland trip to meet with the Russian ambassador was paid for out of campaign funds.  Sessions was also, at the time, the leader of the Trump foreign policy team.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 03, 2017, 05:07:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 03, 2017, 04:47:20 AM
The WSJ is reporting that Session's Cleveland trip to meet with the Russian ambassador was paid for out of campaign funds.  Sessions was also, at the time, the leader of the Trump foreign policy team.

He already recused himself, so that means there's no problem. Stop spreading FAKE NEWS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 03, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/pence-used-personal-email-state-business----and-hacked/98604904/

QuoteVice President Mike Pence routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues.

Emails released to IndyStar in response to a public records request show Pence communicated via his personal AOL account with top advisers on topics ranging from security gates at the governor's residence to the state's response to terror attacks across the globe. In one email, Pence's top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges.

Cyber-security experts say the emails raise concerns about whether such sensitive information was adequately protected from hackers, given that personal accounts like Pence's are typically less secure than government email accounts. In fact, Pence's personal account was hacked last summer.

QuoteCybersecurity experts say Pence's emails were likely just as insecure as Clinton's. While there has been speculation about whether Clinton's emails were hacked, Pence's account was actually compromised last summer by a scammer who sent an email to his contacts claiming Pence and his wife were stranded in the Philippines and in urgent need of money.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 03, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Well I got that one wrong

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-accused-making-threats-jewish-community-centers-arrested/story?id=45884069

The arrested man is a former Intercept journalist who was let go after making up sources and quotes for his stories. He was apparently trying to implicate his ex-girlfriend in making the bomb threats.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 03, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 03, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Well I got that one wrong

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-accused-making-threats-jewish-community-centers-arrested/story?id=45884069

The arrested man is a former Intercept journalist who was let go after making up sources and quotes for his stories. He was apparently trying to implicate his ex-girlfriend in making the bomb threats.

Wait, all of them?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 03, 2017, 06:08:26 PM
No, 8 of them so far.  There may be more charges coming...but I personally think he decided to copycat the original bomb threats as part of his vendetta. We'll see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 03, 2017, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 03, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Well I got that one wrong

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-accused-making-threats-jewish-community-centers-arrested/story?id=45884069

The arrested man is a former Intercept journalist who was let go after making up sources and quotes for his stories. He was apparently trying to implicate his ex-girlfriend in making the bomb threats.

Well, that's a bit of a surprise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

So then Pence, who is absolutely incapable of leadership.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 04, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
Shrill and hysterical you say?
Try:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFSERNfT6N8

Excellent concept, perfect execution.



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 04, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

So then Pence, who is absolutely incapable of leadership.

Yes.  It doesn't seem like Pence is "in the loop" on Russia, given how Flynn and Trump gave him the runaround.  I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get.

But then if Pence goes, it's Ryan, so I'm not seeing any good options here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

I am, at times, not sure if he realizes that Obama is no longer President.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

So then Pence, who is absolutely incapable of leadership.

Yes.  It doesn't seem like Pence is "in the loop" on Russia, given how Flynn and Trump gave him the runaround.  I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get.

But then if Pence goes, it's Ryan, so I'm not seeing any good options here.

At this point, I would be pretty OK with anyone who is an actual politician with an actual policy or law background and some experience in governance. People who understand what laws are, and have an inkling of how foreign policy works.

ANYONE who is not totally insane would make me feel, at the very least, less like the US is being pushed rapidly into total destabilization.

I mean, a re-org might not be economically catastrophic, but let's be real, it probably would be. Trump is pushing us toward a re-org.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2017, 02:37:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

So then Pence, who is absolutely incapable of leadership.

Yes.  It doesn't seem like Pence is "in the loop" on Russia, given how Flynn and Trump gave him the runaround.  I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get.

But then if Pence goes, it's Ryan, so I'm not seeing any good options here.

Only if they don't have time to appoint another VP.  But Ryan would be kingmaker, so...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

I am, at times, not sure if he realizes that Obama is no longer President.

Oh, the conspiracy crowd have been working this thing, ever since Obama left office.  The "theory" is "Obama's Shadow Government", that Obama has somehow taken over the bureaucracy of the USA and is secretly directing a campaign of links and disinformation against Trump.  Obama is also coordinating all the protests against Trump.  And he has a secret command bunker in Washington DC (?).  Naturally, this is all paid for by (((Soros))).  It's a thing they've been going on about since basically January 21st.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2017, 09:55:49 AM
Of course, this also all could've been some wierd attempt to try and see what the Justice Department has on him so far.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 05, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 04, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

So then Pence, who is absolutely incapable of leadership.

Yes.  It doesn't seem like Pence is "in the loop" on Russia, given how Flynn and Trump gave him the runaround.  I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get.

But then if Pence goes, it's Ryan, so I'm not seeing any good options here.

At this point, I would be pretty OK with anyone who is an actual politician with an actual policy or law background and some experience in governance. People who understand what laws are, and have an inkling of how foreign policy works.

ANYONE who is not totally insane would make me feel, at the very least, less like the US is being pushed rapidly into total destabilization.

I agree.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

I am, at times, not sure if he realizes that Obama is no longer President.

Oh, the conspiracy crowd have been working this thing, ever since Obama left office.  The "theory" is "Obama's Shadow Government", that Obama has somehow taken over the bureaucracy of the USA and is secretly directing a campaign of links and disinformation against Trump.  Obama is also coordinating all the protests against Trump.  And he has a secret command bunker in Washington DC (?).  Naturally, this is all paid for by (((Soros))).  It's a thing they've been going on about since basically January 21st.

So basically Obama is Illuminati?

What a convenient (and completely insane) way to resolve the cognitive dissonance of Trump's complete incompetence!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2017, 04:08:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 05, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM
Trump seems to think that the President can order wiretaps, and that Obama ordered wiretaps on him.  Of course, Comey did in fact obtain a court order allowing surveillance on Trump's communications, but last I checked, Comey is not Obama.

Not only that, his tone is increasingly shrill and hysterical.  At this point, I think it's 50/50 whether a special prosecutor gets him or a heart attack does.

I am, at times, not sure if he realizes that Obama is no longer President.

Oh, the conspiracy crowd have been working this thing, ever since Obama left office.  The "theory" is "Obama's Shadow Government", that Obama has somehow taken over the bureaucracy of the USA and is secretly directing a campaign of links and disinformation against Trump.  Obama is also coordinating all the protests against Trump.  And he has a secret command bunker in Washington DC (?).  Naturally, this is all paid for by (((Soros))).  It's a thing they've been going on about since basically January 21st.

So basically Obama is Illuminati?

What a convenient (and completely insane) way to resolve the cognitive dissonance of Trump's complete incompetence!

Ask some of them and Obama is The Antichrist, clone-son of Akhenaten, and/or the reptilian king. All this while also being a Kenyan Muslim.

Fuck I even saw some shit about "moloch vs kek" running around youtube. The absurdity of this shit is crowned by what folks seem to believe about their "God-emperor Trump" as some kind of saviour... It's too early for this shit.

:weary:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
Obama is the entire Illuminati all by himself. He's running a secret shadow government from the basement of Comet Ping Pong, personally directing every single public servant to put as much red tape in Trump's way as possible. He also hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Russian diplomats and Trump advisers on phony phone calls he recorded with one of those tape recorder things that Macaulay Culkin had in Home Alone 2 in order to frame Trump for being a Russian puppet. I don't see how you sheeple can miss this, it's happening right before your eyes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2017, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
Obama is the entire Illuminati all by himself. He's running a secret shadow government from the basement of Comet Ping Pong, personally directing every single public servant to put as much red tape in Trump's way as possible. He also hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Russian diplomats and Trump advisers on phony phone calls he recorded with one of those tape recorder things that Macaulay Culkin had in Home Alone 2 in order to frame Trump for being a Russian puppet. I don't see how you sheeple can miss this, it's happening right before your eyes.
:lulz:
You should be writing copy for Infowars.

edit because derp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 05, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
I feel like a spectator in someone's mental illness. Where they make up insane logic to delude themselves on their morally questionable actions and scapegoat responsibility to someone else.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
I feel like a spectator in someone's mental illness. Where they make up insane logic to delude themselves on their morally questionable actions and scapegoat responsibility to someone else.

Dude... you should have a quiet sit-down in an American fundamentalist church setting some time. The reality schism is palpable. I'm from that reality, it's DIFFERENT than I remember it in a subtle way I can't define as anything but.. disquieting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2017, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
Obama is the entire Illuminati all by himself. He's running a secret shadow government from the basement of Comet Ping Pong, personally directing every single public servant to put as much red tape in Trump's way as possible. He also hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Russian diplomats and Trump advisers on phony phone calls he recorded with one of those tape recorder things that Macaulay Culkin had in Home Alone 2 in order to frame Trump for being a Russian puppet. I don't see how you sheeple can miss this, it's happening right before your eyes.
:lulz:
You should be writing copy for Infowars.

edit because derp

Working on it. Refer to my post on the Occult History of the Ellipsis for further mind-blowing facts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 06, 2017, 12:29:31 AM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
I feel like a spectator in someone's mental illness. Where they make up insane logic to delude themselves on their morally questionable actions and scapegoat responsibility to someone else.

I think that's because you pretty much are. None of this is normal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Who else is waiting for Trump's response to the CIA leak?  I'm on the edge of my seat.

Incidentally, look at that timing!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Who else is waiting for Trump's response to the CIA leak?  I'm on the edge of my seat.

Incidentally, look at that timing!

Explain like I'm five, is it the signing of the new travel order or something else?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
Incidentally, everyone is pointing breathlessly at the revelation that the CIA can fake the source of an attack as proof that the CIA really hacked the DNC.

So in other words, the CIA hacked the DNC to put a man they didn't trust into power, so they could discredit Russia (whom Republicans now love).  Yup, top minds of the internet, right there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Who else is waiting for Trump's response to the CIA leak?  I'm on the edge of my seat.

Incidentally, look at that timing!

Explain like I'm five, is it the signing of the new travel order or something else?

Wikileaks dumps a bunch of stuff that makes the CIA look incompetent and like bad guys, while the pressure is going up on Trump about his administrations links to Russian intelligence.  Could just be coincidence...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Who else is waiting for Trump's response to the CIA leak?  I'm on the edge of my seat.

Incidentally, look at that timing!

Explain like I'm five, is it the signing of the new travel order or something else?

Wikileaks dumps a bunch of stuff that makes the CIA look incompetent and like bad guys, while the pressure is going up on Trump about his administrations links to Russian intelligence.  Could just be coincidence...
Yikes, that makes sense, and because of the 24 hour news cycle attention span the Russian links could well be forgotten for a long time now.
I was at a security conference today and they mentioned that apart from the political fallout, that the CIA warchest is now empty: all of their developed malware has been disclosed and will be easy to both reverse engineer AND detect.
Meaning they are now at a point they need to start over, and are about 3 or 4 years behind Russia and China. So apart from just a political move, it literally sets back the espionage arms race for the US, not a bad thing.... If you can also set back russia and china, which no one has done.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Yeah, that sounds about right.  Throw in that Shadow Brokers hack last year and things are not looking good for "the cyber" in the near-term.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2017, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 05, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
Obama is the entire Illuminati all by himself. He's running a secret shadow government from the basement of Comet Ping Pong, personally directing every single public servant to put as much red tape in Trump's way as possible. He also hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Russian diplomats and Trump advisers on phony phone calls he recorded with one of those tape recorder things that Macaulay Culkin had in Home Alone 2 in order to frame Trump for being a Russian puppet. I don't see how you sheeple can miss this, it's happening right before your eyes.
:lulz:
You should be writing copy for Infowars.

edit because derp

Working on it. Refer to my post on the Occult History of the Ellipsis for further mind-blowing facts.

Will do!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 07, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 07, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 07, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
Who else is waiting for Trump's response to the CIA leak?  I'm on the edge of my seat.

Incidentally, look at that timing!

Explain like I'm five, is it the signing of the new travel order or something else?

Wikileaks dumps a bunch of stuff that makes the CIA look incompetent and like bad guys, while the pressure is going up on Trump about his administrations links to Russian intelligence.  Could just be coincidence...
Yikes, that makes sense, and because of the 24 hour news cycle attention span the Russian links could well be forgotten for a long time now.

We all need to do our part to make sure that the takeaway people get from this is "when the CIA talks about hacking, they know what they're talking about"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on March 10, 2017, 06:00:42 AM
Found this on Fark
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 11, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fake-news-donald-trump-supporters-gullible-believe-anything-barack-obama-paedophile-hillary-clinton-a7623441.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 12, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 11, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fake-news-donald-trump-supporters-gullible-believe-anything-barack-obama-paedophile-hillary-clinton-a7623441.html

Yeah, I know those people. I grew up surrounded by them. They are proudly ignorant, and blindly and toadyingly authoritarian as long as they perceive the authority as one of their own kind.  Thanks to the magic of Facedook, I'm still connected with some of them and witness their mental processes.

Just a few days ago, I saw where one of them had replied to someone "I thaut russia was are frien?", which, while still painfully ignorant, showed a glimmer of hope that he might actually be willing to consider the possibility that Russia is not, in fact, "are frien".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 12, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
Also, their posts bounce back and forth between sexually explicit, and shit about Jesus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway has had to confirm that she did not mean she thought the Trump administration were being surveilled through microwaves that turn into cameras by Obama.

What a time to be alive.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 13, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway has had to confirm that she did not mean she thought the Trump administration were being surveilled through microwaves that turn into cameras by Obama.

What a time to be alive.

Before you laugh too quickly, I remind you it's only March. Just imagine the full blown insanity that you'll be enjoying after a couple of years of this shit. I'm actually expecting a statement on the reptoid menace any day now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 13, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 13, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway has had to confirm that she did not mean she thought the Trump administration were being surveilled through microwaves that turn into cameras by Obama.

What a time to be alive.

Before you laugh too quickly, I remind you it's only March. Just imagine the full blown insanity that you'll be enjoying after a couple of years of this shit. I'm actually expecting a statement on the reptoid menace any day now.

While youtube surfing I came upon a vid that had "Trump to release DARPA technology" or something in the title. I didn't want to watch it because I can only deal with just so much at a time, but the theme of The Donald as revelator and something of a techno-messiah seems strong.

:lulz:
Why I even heard once that he was a "Kantian and going to complete German Idealism". Gosh that sure sounds nifty.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 13, 2017, 09:29:09 PM
Here's the Jonestown version from an alt-outlet. This was recorded within a week or so of the inaugural things. The DARPA bit comes in around 18min, but if you can stomach it I suggest watching the whole thing for a sense of how twist this is actually getting and to see some of the roots of the current narrative.

To quote St. A.J. "You can't make this stuff up people!!!!!"

DARPA MOTHERFUCKERS!!! (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c6rUDKw1-O8)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 13, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway has had to confirm that she did not mean she thought the Trump administration were being surveilled through microwaves that turn into cameras by Obama.

What a time to be alive.

Before you laugh too quickly, I remind you it's only March. Just imagine the full blown insanity that you'll be enjoying after a couple of years of this shit. I'm actually expecting a statement on the reptoid menace any day now.

Quote from: The Washington PostTrump, according to Stone, wasn't difficult to persuade. The president-elect is "an inveterate watcher of television. He has watched Infowars, Stone says. "They hit it off."

Quote from: Right Wing WatchJones told Icke that while he doesn't yet buy this theory, he suspects it is right and that it doesn't matter either way since, whether or not they are space lizards, the shadowy figures who are running the world have the same nefarious, anti-human end game.

Also obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 13, 2017, 10:14:28 PM
If the universe was in fact a simulation, there would be some subtle tells, where the narrative breaks down, when the simulation ran into resource bottlenecks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
If the AI is tied to FPS, as it is with many modern games, we would see many NPCs acting strangely and out of sync with events around them when they hit those resource bottlenecks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 13, 2017, 11:02:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 13, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2017, 04:07:15 PM
Kellyanne Conway has had to confirm that she did not mean she thought the Trump administration were being surveilled through microwaves that turn into cameras by Obama.

What a time to be alive.

Before you laugh too quickly, I remind you it's only March. Just imagine the full blown insanity that you'll be enjoying after a couple of years of this shit. I'm actually expecting a statement on the reptoid menace any day now.

Quote from: The Washington PostTrump, according to Stone, wasn't difficult to persuade. The president-elect is "an inveterate watcher of television. He has watched Infowars, Stone says. "They hit it off."

Quote from: Right Wing WatchJones told Icke that while he doesn't yet buy this theory, he suspects it is right and that it doesn't matter either way since, whether or not they are space lizards, the shadowy figures who are running the world have the same nefarious, anti-human end game.

Also obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y

You seem to be suggesting that such a statement is actually overdue.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Rachel Maddow claims she has Trump's tax returns.

This is either the start of something glorious, massive false advertising or a huge piece of calculated disinformation.  Either way, should be fun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Rachel Maddow claims she has Trump's tax returns.

This is either the start of something glorious, massive false advertising or a huge piece of calculated disinformation.  Either way, should be fun.

OH GLEEEEEEE

Sometimes I feel kind of bad about how much I enjoy this clusterfuck.

But, y'know, if you can't beat 'em and you won't join 'em, it probably makes the most sense to laugh until you die.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 15, 2017, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 14, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Rachel Maddow claims she has Trump's tax returns.

This is either the start of something glorious, massive false advertising or a huge piece of calculated disinformation.  Either way, should be fun.

Idiots response to claim is up on twitter.

Short version: REEEEEE

Long version:REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I've not even checked, just assuming.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
I wish I could tell you.  My feed is covered in Mensch's gloating, which is becoming increasingly annoying and unhinged in equal measure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 01:06:56 AM
The fun begins https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/mar/14/trump-tax-return-rachel-maddow
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 15, 2017, 02:11:33 AM
Well that was pathetic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 15, 2017, 02:29:33 AM
I'm getting really, really accustomed to disappointment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 15, 2017, 03:22:28 AM
"BREAKING NEWS: We here at NBC are so positively desperate for a story we're going to break the entire Internet for six hours just to read you the most boring parts of an entirely uninteresting document."

I'm assuming this was intentionally "leaked" by someone around Trump who is actually not an idiot. Thanks to the predictable way Rachel Maddow pounced on this "story", the whole question of the missing tax returns for the decade AFTER this 2005 will be met with "Well, there was nothing interesting in 2005, why don't you just give it up?" from every corner. As a bonus, Sean Spicer gets to be the one poking fun at the Left for a change, with "Ha ha did you see the way Maddow dropped that dud?" at every press briefing for the next three months.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 15, 2017, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 15, 2017, 03:22:28 AM
"BREAKING NEWS: We here at NBC are so positively desperate for a story we're going to break the entire Internet for six hours just to read you the most boring parts of an entirely uninteresting document."

I'm assuming this was intentionally "leaked" by someone around Trump who is actually not an idiot. Thanks to the predictable way Rachel Maddow pounced on this "story", the whole question of the missing tax returns for the decade AFTER this 2005 will be met with "Well, there was nothing interesting in 2005, why don't you just give it up?" from every corner. As a bonus, Sean Spicer gets to be the one poking fun at the Left for a change, with "Ha ha did you see the way Maddow dropped that dud?" at every press briefing for the next three months.

Bingo.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 15, 2017, 04:11:21 PM
Here's the thing that's bothering me, if you're tendering for decent work, the last 3 years accounts are usually on the docs list. That's because anyone can show 1 good/bad year but it's harder to hide shit for 3 years consecutively. So an 05 return is worthless without 06, and 07. And or 03 and 04. Paying X in one year is meaningless if you've dodged 2X the year after. Or 3X the year before.

It also stinks because if I'd paid that level of tax regularly I would use that to beat my opponent around the head with. "I objectively contribute more to society than you by Y degree". Clinton's taxes were known so it's reasonable to assume this claim can't be made because the orange idiot would have done so. So it's safe to assume any contribution will be lower than Clinton's total, assuming that it's even a positive number. I doubt that is the case.

I'll bet money I don't have that this was a blip year. There's literally no chance that 04 and before or after 05 show anything remotely similar. This should make everyone much more suspicious about the total return but I doubt it will. Because the world is apparently dedicated to stupid and easy answers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 17, 2017, 02:43:07 AM
That Rachel Maddow flop couldn't even get the traction it surely deserved with the travel ban and budget going the way they have so far.

There is no shoving a fist directly through the judicial system, as far as I am aware. He can't fire everybody, as much as he'd like. More importantly, it makes him look incredibly weak, not due to a judge thwarting him, but that he can't do as he said he would.

And the budget is hilariously bad. The pharmaceutical industry is expected to see an increase in fees for FDA approval processes of $2 billion! He expects that pharma is going to just sit there and pay for that wall? Or pay that much for ANYTHING? That's just so stupidly short-sighted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 17, 2017, 02:58:40 AM
It makes him look ineffective, but none of this (or anything) will have any effect on the heart of his base. Besides, if these people ever do decide Trump isn't doing it for them, they won't be coming back toward the middle to seek common ground. They'll go looking for someone even worse. Because the hard Right believes if extremism fails, it's because they weren't extreme enough. The only silver lining I can see is that as they start marching even farther into batshit country, maybe whatever contingent is unwilling to actually start literally flying Nazi flags just gives up and withdraws altogether, shrinking the number of extremists enough to give the GOP establishment a little more breathing room to compromise. But even that is probably impossible until someone proves in 2018 that the extremists are no longer strong enough to bulldoze an establishment candidate from the far right. Which would give us the benefit of a GOP that is merely dangerous, not also radical and insane.

Mind you, all of this is what now qualifies for "unicorns shitting rainbows in Utopia". In the real world, the Kekites will probably manage to radicalize another few million people and that turnaround the Democrats expect in 2018 will turn into yet another trouncing due to their continued inability to gain control of the conversation between now and then, thanks to the Democrats' seemingly infinite ability to think inside the box and play the game like it's still 1985.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 07:51:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on March 17, 2017, 02:58:40 AM
thanks to the Democrats' seemingly infinite ability to think inside the box and play the game like it's still 1985.

Rebels aren't born in palaces.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 17, 2017, 12:14:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2017, 07:51:05 AM
Rebels aren't born in palaces.   :lulz:

Newsfeed/Big Words.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
Comey's testimony to the Senate is fascinating.

He's confirmed, along with James Clapper, that there was no authorised wiretap on the Trump Towers.  He's also confirmed that investigations into links between Russia and the Trump campaign team are happening - and that they were not included in the original IC assessment because those investigations are still ongoing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
Oh, and Comey confirmed there had been hacks of Republican networks and systems but no subsequent release of data.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 20, 2017, 11:25:57 PM
So which republicans are making defensive statements about their use of drugs and rent boys then? Guessing a few will make questionable statements by the weekend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:43:59 PM
Trumpcare vote withdrawn  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
I am relieved and amused.  I think I'm gonna go to the GAY BAR to celebrate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 24, 2017, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:43:59 PM
Trumpcare vote withdrawn  :lulz:

They should have been more careful invoking Kuk. That or ensured that they had a solid coalition before trying to ram new legislation through.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 08:56:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2017, 07:48:43 PM
I am relieved and amused.  I think I'm gonna go to the GAY BAR to celebrate.

I think it's your shameful neglect of the GAY BAR that has led to all of this mess.

If you graph your visits to the GAY BAR against the number of ridiculous bills being introduced, you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 24, 2017, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2017, 07:43:59 PM
Trumpcare vote withdrawn  :lulz:

There has been much gloating over this in the snake brains lab today.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 24, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
I am beginning to think that the GOP isn't so much obstructionist as it is stupid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 24, 2017, 09:32:41 PM
What kind of fucking morons spend 7 years whining about the ACA and then have nothing lined up in the way of replacement OR Republican approval in the house?

Oh right.

They're trying so hard to shove everything back into Pandora's box as thought it were possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 24, 2017, 11:17:41 PM
I am convinced now that the Republicans have allowed themselves to believe their own bullshit, to their own disadvantage. They spent 8 years raising Hell about how Obama was some kind of radical dictator in order to gain up enough hate in the ranks to survive a few more elections. Not a bad strategy, really, if you're only trying to stay alive as a party. But they forgot it was just rhetoric and started actually believing that was how Obama was really governing. As a result, now that they are in power, that is how THEY set out to govern. And they are perplexed as to why it doesn't work. Furthermore they have no one to turn on and blame now except each other. Maybe it'll get even better.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 24, 2017, 11:34:15 PM
...and to hear the lamentations of Paul Ryan.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
They didn't seem to have anything prepared, aside from one-line laws abolishing everything, which aren't going anywhere.

The healthcare thing...They had 8 years to prepare.  8 years to line up support, put together something that at least didn't seem heinous, and have it ready to go.

And now Trump and the republican congress are making threats at each other.

Quote...and to hear the lamentations of Paul Ryan.

And this.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2017, 01:02:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc)

FUCK DA POLICE   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:49:42 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 25, 2017, 01:02:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc)

FUCK DA POLICE   :lulz:

That's what I'm saying!  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

QuoteThe discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer's failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country's foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away." The discussion, he said, didn't include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn't known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

QuoteThe discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer's failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country's foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away." The discussion, he said, didn't include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn't known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
:lulz:
I'll have to remember that one.

"It wasn't no "conspiracy to commit" we was just havin' one of them nice, open-ended thinking hypothetical conversations. Ain't no crime in that yer honor."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 25, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 24, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
I am beginning to think that the GOP isn't so much obstructionist as it is stupid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39388815

QuoteEarlier Mr Ryan told reporters: "We are going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future.
"I will not sugar-coat this. This is a disappointing day for us. Doing big things is hard.
"We were a 10-year opposition party where being against things was easy to do," he said, adding that it was difficult to get "people to agree with each other in how we do things".

Best laugh I've had all day.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nast on March 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
While I'm glad it didn't pass, it's still disturbing that the reason the Freedom Caucus rejected the bill was that it wasn't draconian enough. It makes me worried what they'll try to push next time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2017, 02:14:09 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

It seems as if they're still doing what most dogs would do, by sniffing it, barking madly at it for 20 minutes, then pissing on it and wandering off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 26, 2017, 02:14:41 AM
As far as I can tell they're still in the barking stage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 26, 2017, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmkRi_tr9c#t=00m51s
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: Nast on March 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
While I'm glad it didn't pass, it's still disturbing that the reason the Freedom Caucus rejected the bill was that it wasn't draconian enough. It makes me worried what they'll try to push next time.

They're pushing FREEDOM, comrade.  It's in the name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

QuoteThe discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer's failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country's foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away." The discussion, he said, didn't include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn't known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
:lulz:
I'll have to remember that one.

"It wasn't no "conspiracy to commit" we was just havin' one of them nice, open-ended thinking hypothetical conversations. Ain't no crime in that yer honor."

It gets better.  Devin Nunes was also present at that meeting

https://twitter.com/yottapoint/status/845712917764845568
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

QuoteDonald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country "owed" Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as "outrageous" by one German minister.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

QuoteThe discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer's failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country's foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away." The discussion, he said, didn't include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn't known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
:lulz:
I'll have to remember that one.

"It wasn't no "conspiracy to commit" we was just havin' one of them nice, open-ended thinking hypothetical conversations. Ain't no crime in that yer honor."

It gets better.  Devin Nunes was also present at that meeting

https://twitter.com/yottapoint/status/845712917764845568

You mean the guy, a security council member IIRC, that called a pretty dodgy news conference and personally informed the Executive upon hearing confidential information concerning secondary intel gathering as a craven and whorish attempt to give Trump something that might be misconstrued as leverage re "Obama tapped my wires". That Nunes?

Oh...

Oh... myyyy. Something tells me this is going to be the biggest clusterfuck in modern history when the dust settles... hopefully not fallout dust.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 02:14:01 PM
He's the head of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Though probably not for long at this rate  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 26, 2017, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 26, 2017, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 25, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 25, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
The GOP seems a lot like a dog that actually caught the car it was chasing, much to its own surprise, and has no idea what to do with it now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jc9aZh4MQhc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmkRi_tr9c#t=00m51s

I loved that movie and that was one of my favorite scenes in particular.

And now here we are... take in all that the existence of this particular video and channel implies as a whole. It took me a minute to absorb it. Wish I hadn't, but here.. we.. go!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QidQiecg4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QidQiecg4)

Also... Wellcome (sic)  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 26, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

QuoteDonald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country "owed" Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as "outrageous" by one German minister.

What's the plan here? This is just insanely stupid on so many levels I can't even.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on March 26, 2017, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 26, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

QuoteDonald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country "owed" Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as "outrageous" by one German minister.

What's the plan here? This is just insanely stupid on so many levels I can't even.

That, combined with naming names when shaming hard-line conservatives for disloyalty, and the laundry-list of derp Trump seems to carry with him, should make for the best/shortest US Presidency EVER.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 26, 2017, 06:37:35 PM
It just keeps highlighting the idiots incompetence in deal making and business in general.

It's like he has no concept about how invoices work. My best guess is that the tit writes off the refusal to pay against the national debt or something, therefore showing something. Possibly uses it as a pretext to withdraw from NATO?

Betting a fiver that the breakdown is ludicrous because there's no way that figure was reached by someone working with facts or reality. It's got to include a stupid rate of compound interest and other random bullshit. Even then it's still almost certainly wrong by several orders of magnitude.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 07:42:14 PM
If you're trying to drive a wedge between the US and its European allies, it makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Xooxe on March 26, 2017, 08:06:01 PM
Does he have the power to pull out of NATO, or is it just a stunt?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 26, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 07:42:14 PM
If you're trying to drive a wedge between the US and its European allies, it makes perfect sense.

We've had Le pen meeting with putin recently, so would it be fair to expect a bill coming to france if she doesn't win?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: Xooxe on March 26, 2017, 08:06:01 PM
Does he have the power to pull out of NATO, or is it just a stunt?

He'd need Congress to ratify it, since NATO is enshrined in treaty law.

But he could always pull a France and downgrade cooperation with the rest of NATO.  Withdraw troops from Europe, remove remaining troops from unified command...he has options short of leaving.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 27, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
Quote from: Salty on March 26, 2017, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 26, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

QuoteDonald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country "owed" Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as "outrageous" by one German minister.

What's the plan here? This is just insanely stupid on so many levels I can't even.

That, combined with naming names when shaming hard-line conservatives for disloyalty, and the laundry-list of derp Trump seems to carry with him, should make for the best/shortest US Presidency EVER.

Actually I think he's already been in office longer than William Henry Harrison was
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 27, 2017, 09:28:41 PM
And now kushner is making news over his dodgy contacts.

Need to set up a board of pictures with of this administration and start marking off who's had questionable contacts. At this rate smart money is on "all of them". It's looking like a requirement now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 01:10:58 AM
Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959

QuoteMike Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjIwRTsRIPE
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 31, 2017, 01:41:05 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 25, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
They didn't seem to have anything prepared, aside from one-line laws abolishing everything, which aren't going anywhere.

The healthcare thing...They had 8 years to prepare.  8 years to line up support, put together something that at least didn't seem heinous, and have it ready to go.

And now Trump and the republican congress are making threats at each other.

Quote...and to hear the lamentations of Paul Ryan.

And this.   :lulz:

The only alternative to "the GOP huffed their own farts so fucking hard they thought this would work" that I can think of is that they really didn't think they were gonna win the White House in 2016. They thought that Clinton would take it, and they would get at least another 4 years to whip up frothing-at-the-mouth crazies (they would lose the overt racism angle that they had with Obama, but misogyny and "EMAILZ" would probably have worked nearly as well). Plus, they could have gotten the Bernie Bros and Jill Stein's gelatinous voting blob-monsters to continue sabotaging the Left.

But they did, indeed, end up catching the car. And I suppose now it doesn't matter much if it was a cunning plan gone bad, or having rocks for brains.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 02:12:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 01:10:58 AM
Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959

QuoteMike Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjIwRTsRIPE

Oh this is GOLDEN.  :lulz: Hope he doesn't have a nasty accident before he gets a chance to testify.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2017, 02:13:49 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on March 31, 2017, 01:41:05 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 25, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
They didn't seem to have anything prepared, aside from one-line laws abolishing everything, which aren't going anywhere.

The healthcare thing...They had 8 years to prepare.  8 years to line up support, put together something that at least didn't seem heinous, and have it ready to go.

And now Trump and the republican congress are making threats at each other.

Quote...and to hear the lamentations of Paul Ryan.

And this.   :lulz:

The only alternative to "the GOP huffed their own farts so fucking hard they thought this would work" that I can think of is that they really didn't think they were gonna win the White House in 2016. They thought that Clinton would take it, and they would get at least another 4 years to whip up frothing-at-the-mouth crazies (they would lose the overt racism angle that they had with Obama, but misogyny and "EMAILZ" would probably have worked nearly as well). Plus, they could have gotten the Bernie Bros and Jill Stein's gelatinous voting blob-monsters to continue sabotaging the Left.

But they did, indeed, end up catching the car. And I suppose now it doesn't matter much if it was a cunning plan gone bad, or having rocks for brains.

I have pretty much given up assuming that there was any grand plan at all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2017, 02:15:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 01:10:58 AM
Flynn has offered to testify in exchange for immunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959

QuoteMike Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjIwRTsRIPE

This is 9 kinds of awesome.  I was talking to my folks, and they were commenting that even Nixon didn't seem this doomed when his shit started to unravel.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 02:27:20 AM
I didn't talk to Russia

I talked to Russia

I talked to Russia & I resign

I talked to Russia & will tell all for criminal immunity
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 02:29:15 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8NWeImUwAETk1y.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 31, 2017, 02:46:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 02:27:20 AM
I didn't talk to Russia

I talked to Russia

I talked to Russia & I resign

I talked to Russia & will tell all for criminal immunity

CYNICISM AND PESSIMISM TO THE RESCUE!
The only reason Flynn is making this deal, it will turn out, is because he's the only person who actually broke any laws. By the end of his testimony it will be clear that the entire Trump administration, while crooked as a cane, will all get off on technicalities, possibly with a viable way to ruin the "witch hunters'" careers, and Flynn, the only flagrantly guilty person among them, will have secured his own immunity from prosecution. Angels will weep, and the Republic will go ahead and give its last gasp and collapse through the cracks in its own Swiss-cheese system of justice.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 02:57:27 AM
As lovely and cynical as this is, I don't think anyone but Nunes is buying it.  This is from today's committee meeting:

QuoteIn a moment that stunned the hearing room, Watts flatly stated that the president himself has become a cog in such Russian measures. When asked by Oklahoma Republican James Lankford, who appeared visibly dismayed, why, if Russians have long used these methods, they finally worked in this election cycle, Watts' answer was extraordinary.

"I think this answer is very simple and is one no one is really saying in this room," he said. Part of the reason, he went on, "is the commander in chief has used Russian active measures at times against his opponents."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
Besides, unless Flynn has gold standard, absolutely undeniable proof, the FBI aren't going to touch this offer.  They might see what he has to say.  But unless he can spill the beans on everything and offer up Trump on a silver platter, then he's not going to be taken up on his offer.

The FBI has to build a case without appearing to be targeting the President, unless they have something really fantastically credible to work with.  When you come at the king, you best not miss.  Flynn will be dismissed as "that guy who got fired by the President for lying" and his testimony will be tainted by that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 31, 2017, 03:34:35 AM
I really want to believe Trump is guilty of outright sedition and will spent the rest of his natural life in prison, I know the possibility of that happening is quite remote. The only reason the GOP is even following through on this "investigation" is because Trump is an outsider who rubs many of them the wrong way, and because the story is so prominent in the press that failing to go through the motions would be an obvious dereliction of duty. They managed to get four years out of Benghazi, but clearly for the GOP this investigation is like gargling battery acid. They'll wrap it up as delicately as they can, as soon as they can, and it's unlikely anything will come of it except maybe a few more people lose their jobs. Besides, Trump seems like the kind of guy who just stumbles into a plan like this and gets caught up in it by accident.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:53:37 AM
Another part of the Steele dossier was confirmed today, btw.  Steele named a Russian spy at the US embassy operating under diplomatic cover as an economic adviser or something. 

Steele said this thing had been years in the planning.  Worth keeping in mind, given his track record thus far.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:56:33 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-30/fbi-agents-visit-office-of-saipan-casino-run-by-trump-protege?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

QuoteAgents from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation visited an office belonging to the operator of a casino on the remote U.S. island of Saipan that has attracted attention for its huge revenues, according to a local legislator and residents.

FBI personnel, accompanied by uniformed police officers, arrived Thursday morning at a local office used by Imperial Pacific International Holdings Ltd., the Hong Kong-based company that owns the Best Sunshine Live casino, local residents said. They stayed for several hours, with local police blocking access to the building.

QuoteIts board members include James Woolsey, who ran the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency in the early 1990s and was among national-security advisers to Trump's presidential campaign. Former FBI director Louis Freeh and Ed Rendell, a former Pennsylvania governor and Democratic National Committee chairman, sit on an advisory committee, as does Haley Barbour, the ex-Mississippi governor and Republican National Committee chairman who's now a prominent lobbyist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
Besides, unless Flynn has gold standard, absolutely undeniable proof, the FBI aren't going to touch this offer.  They might see what he has to say.  But unless he can spill the beans on everything and offer up Trump on a silver platter, then he's not going to be taken up on his offer.

The FBI has to build a case without appearing to be targeting the President, unless they have something really fantastically credible to work with.  When you come at the king, you best not miss.  Flynn will be dismissed as "that guy who got fired by the President for lying" and his testimony will be tainted by that.

Thanks for this perspective, I will be interested in your take as things progress. Maaaan, to be a fly on the wall at the FBI right now!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Aucoq on March 31, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 31, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
Besides, unless Flynn has gold standard, absolutely undeniable proof, the FBI aren't going to touch this offer.  They might see what he has to say.  But unless he can spill the beans on everything and offer up Trump on a silver platter, then he's not going to be taken up on his offer.

The FBI has to build a case without appearing to be targeting the President, unless they have something really fantastically credible to work with.  When you come at the king, you best not miss.  Flynn will be dismissed as "that guy who got fired by the President for lying" and his testimony will be tainted by that.

Thanks for this perspective, I will be interested in your take as things progress. Maaaan, to be a fly on the wall at the FBI right now!

I think this is going to be a long, drawn out and weird process.  And when it breaks, much like Watergate, it will be more for the coverup than for the crime.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: Aucoq on March 31, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.

I like to think of W finally finding peace and contentment as an artist, having long given up on obtaining approval from  his father.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 31, 2017, 11:17:58 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/michael-flynn-talks-congress-wary-prosecution-46484973

QuoteFlynn seemed to have a different view last September when he weighed in on the implications of immunity on NBC's "Meet the Press," criticizing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her associates in the FBI's investigation into her use of a private email server.

"When you are given immunity, that means that you have probably committed a crime," Flynn said during the interview.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 01, 2017, 05:31:10 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: Aucoq on March 31, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.

I like to think of W finally finding peace and contentment as an artist, having long given up on obtaining approval from  his father.

W was president when a lot of really bad shit happened, so he's got to own it.

That being said, Nigel just came up with the most heartrending epiloge any tribute could have.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 09:18:14 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.

For sure. He was a terrible president, there's no doubt about that. Worse than terrible. I'm not denying that, or that the bugger has gotten off way too easy and to see him wind up as giggly old artist seems too good for him. But I don't think he was ever "evil", he was just incompetent and surrounded by lots of people with wills stronger than his who were more driven than he was. I don't know the man so I might be way off base, but it seems to me that 9/11 threw more at him than he was ready to take, and he reactive viciously and with too much reliance on familiar advisers who happened to also be war hawks, out of desperation to not be seen as fumbling "our generation's greatest challenge". He's as susceptible to viewing the world through a filter as anyone else is, and his filter was all Us vs. Them and Conservative Values™. It doesn't make any of the horrible shit he did "right", but I'm not sure he was personally capable of doing anything differently. In his art we at least see a recognition of the turmoil he caused in some lives, even if it's only the "hero" class, and comes at the exclusion of everyone else his administration harmed (in many ways worse) both domestically and abroad. He'll never be a Jimmy Carter, for sure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
One of the most evil things about Trump's presidency is how he has normalised George W Bush by comparison.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 01, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
There doesn't even appear to be any attempt to conceal the fact any more:
Flynn offers to testify about Trumps Russian links, the very next day Wikileaks releases the CIA trove showing how they attempted to frame groups.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 01, 2017, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.

Two wars that the UK/USA lost, which directly raised more terrorism world wide. The "lost" part never seems to get mentioned.

I can't wait to see what concept idiot chooses to wage war against. At the moment it seems to be a war on truth and/or facts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 01, 2017, 02:16:33 PM
I haven't forgotten how much the Bush presidency sucked, not at all;
but now that the wars are over, I think there's something cathartic about seeing him now, just a charming old retired man.

People always go "I don't know who's scarier, Pence or Trump"... I think Trump is scarier by an order of magnitude. Traditional politicians, like Bush or Pence, play by a known set of rules. I mean, say what you will about Bush, but at his core, he wasn't motivated by vanity or petty vindictiveness the way Trump is. I knew on some level that Bush would never actually press the big red button. Pence is capable of reading a 10 page document. Weird how comforting "the evil you know" can be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2017, 03:56:44 PM
One thing I have always said in defence of Bush, against conservatives of more recent years, is that he went to pretty great lengths to try and not portray the conflict with Al-Qaeda as a civilisational conflict against Islam itself.

Bush was smarter on counter-terrorism than Sebastian Gorka, the current White House fake terrorism expert.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 01, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 01, 2017, 03:56:44 PM
One thing I have always said in defence of Bush, against conservatives of more recent years, is that he went to pretty great lengths to try and not portray the conflict with Al-Qaeda as a civilisational conflict against Islam itself.

Bush was smarter on counter-terrorism than Sebastian Gorka, the current White House fake terrorism expert.
:horrormirth:
That horrible moment when you realize that in a less insane universe this would be a great April Fools prank... but it's not. It's not at all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 01, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 01, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
There doesn't even appear to be any attempt to conceal the fact any more:
Flynn offers to testify about Trumps Russian links, the very next day Wikileaks releases the CIA trove showing how they attempted to frame groups.

Assuming the documents are genuine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2017, 06:07:06 PM
The docs seem to be, but Wikileak's depiction of how they worked - implying that the CIA hacked the DNC and blamed Russia for Reasons - is not.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 01, 2017, 08:15:17 PM
They are designed to make it appear as if the attacks are coming from another party but based on the languages the code was optimised for, it was more a case of disguise as anyone from non western culture.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 03, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
SHIT!  CAIN!  CHECK THIS OUT!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/blackwater-founder-held-secret-seychelles-meeting-to-establish-trump-putin-back-channel/2017/04/03/95908a08-1648-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.24caf0d508ac
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2017, 11:34:01 PM
That's the most retarded reason for violating the Logan Act I've ever read.  Getting Russia to dump Iran?  Sure, and maybe you could get North Korea to side with Japan against China while you're at it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2017, 12:41:11 AM
Live footage from the White House: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1491096945574.webm
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on April 04, 2017, 10:45:33 AM
Sneaky. Meet on Seychelles. Fuck over international climate change programmes.

Seychelles disappear . . . end of
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2017, 12:41:11 AM
Live footage from the White House: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1491096945574.webm

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 05, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
Bannons lost his nsc seat.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2017, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 05, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
Bannons lost his nsc seat.

Allegedly, Bannon was put there to keep an eye on Flynn.  That's the claim that seems to be coming from the Trump camp.

Which makes no sense at all to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 05, 2017, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 05, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
Bannons lost his nsc seat.

Allegedly, Bannon was put there to keep an eye on Flynn.  That's the claim that seems to be coming from the Trump camp.

Which makes no sense at all to me.

:drama1:
Maybe they found out about his frog-abuse problem.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 06, 2017, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 05, 2017, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 05, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
Bannons lost his nsc seat.

Allegedly, Bannon was put there to keep an eye on Flynn.  That's the claim that seems to be coming from the Trump camp.

Which makes no sense at all to me.

So assuming this is simply a lie, what makes sense? Bannons fallen out if favour to the benefit of who? I mean who in particular, not just the world at large.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Kushner.

The rumour is that Kushner wanted to bump Bannon off the NSC to the benefit of the "moderate" faction within the White House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 06, 2017, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 06, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Kushner.

The rumour is that Kushner wanted to bump Bannon off the NSC to the benefit of the "moderate" faction within the White House.

Kushner is Jewish no? This is probably a helluva powderkeg topic for the Kuksucking NAZI contingent.

"Why Trump no give Bannon crown and blowjob? His daughter waifu of heethen Jeewish man who no worship teh Kek!!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 12:06:31 AM
It's a good thing that WARMONGER $HILLARY DIDN'T GET INTO POWER AND DRAG US INTO WW3 WITH RUSSIA!

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/06/u-s-weighs-saturation-strike-on-syrian-government-in-response-to-chemical-attack/

QuoteThe Pentagon has developed plans for an airstrike against Syrian government targets in response to this week's apparent chemical attack by Syrian government forces, according to two U.S. military officials.

Secretary of Defense James Mattis will present the proposals to Donald Trump later today at the president's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

One of the proposals drawn up is a "saturation strike" using dozens of cruise missiles designed to hit Syrian military targets —including military air fields — in an effort to limit future Syrian Air Force attacks on rebel positions, according to the two U.S. military officials.

The officials asked for anonymity to discuss classified plans.

The proposed strike would involve launching Tomahawk cruise missiles to overwhelm Russian air defense systems used by the Syrian military. The Russian government currently helps maintain the air defense sites and advises the Syrian military.

According to both U.S. military officials, the current proposal would likely result in Russian military deaths and mark a drastic escalation of U.S. force in Syria.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 12:14:53 AM
To be fair, we develop plans for everything
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 12:30:47 AM
True, but between this, Trump's "something must be done!" and Tillerson's own comments tonight, I think we may see this plan coming into action.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 12:30:47 AM
True, but between this, Trump's "something must be done!" and Tillerson's own comments tonight, I think we may see this plan coming into action.

Well, the good news on that is no more getting up early in the morning, right?  Or at all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 03:12:07 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 12:30:47 AM
True, but between this, Trump's "something must be done!" and Tillerson's own comments tonight, I think we may see this plan coming into action.

BBC is reporting 50 missiles fired. So, not fucking around here. With it happening this fast I'm sure the next few days will be fubar.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this far from the first occasion in recent history with chemical weapons in Syria? Why the sudden rush to deal with a situation that's been ongoing for years?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 04:22:52 AM
It occurs to me that this attack is conveniently timed, just as the investigation into Trump's connections with Putin is gathering steam.

Assad (presumably) makes a senseless chemical attack on a no-name town miles from the fighting, and we spank Assad, thus proving that Putin and Trump are not sweethearts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 07, 2017, 04:25:43 AM
Also, gonna go get a hair shirt to wear as penance for doubting Cain, who called this shit like an hour before it happened.

:cainftw: :cainftw::digtbk:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 04:32:52 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:22:52 AM
It occurs to me that this attack is conveniently timed, just as the investigation into Trump's connections with Putin is gathering steam.

Assad (presumably) makes a senseless chemical attack on a no-name town miles from the fighting, and we spank Assad, thus proving that Putin and Trump are not sweethearts.

Hm...

I'm kinda cold inside  :kingmeh:... that's crazy enough to work. They cry "false flag" yet again, but with no particular target of political convenience causing their "base" to look everywhere but at the guys they trust for such stuff already to a Pavlovian level. Fuck it I'm having a beer while there's beers to be had. I think you could very well be right, goddammit!

Goes, gets beer.

Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:25:43 AM
Also, gonna go get a hair shirt to wear as penance for doubting Cain, who called this shit like an hour before it happened.

:cainftw: :cainftw::digtbk:

I'll have one for Cain too.  :nuke: :cheers: :nuke:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 10:46:07 AM
Shitshow has begun.

Former UK ambassador denies any use of chemical weapons s by Assad because "self defeating".

Damage of strikes is either "massive" or "minimal, bit of shrapnel on runway". Operation has been "huge success" or "total failure".

Basically you can pick what you want to believe at the moment.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 11:02:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:22:52 AM
It occurs to me that this attack is conveniently timed, just as the investigation into Trump's connections with Putin is gathering steam.

Assad (presumably) makes a senseless chemical attack on a no-name town miles from the fighting, and we spank Assad, thus proving that Putin and Trump are not sweethearts.

Could be, though it's worth noting other events that this will help distract from. Such as the Supreme court pick being forced through. Or the guy in charge of the congress russian investigation stepping down due to pressure from "left wing groups". I'm sure there will be plenty of other domestic crap that's worth trying to ignore in favour of a quick bombing or two. I wouldn't rule out internal shit in the US leading to another war abroad.

Apparently no Russian casualties, so the obvious question here is were they informed and told to GTFO of the area? It's not like US air strikes are known for avoiding collateral damage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live

Reading through now, those photos from the Russian govt -- if those were missiles, they were duds and have been carted away. The damage is absurdly minimal. I've seen malfunctioning fireworks do similar damage.

Russia says that the US strikes were basically supporting IS. There's also reports of civilian casualties despite the total lack of Russian casualties. Curious.

The Syrian rebels are confirming the US line /and/ target. The EU is supportive of the strike. The UK condemns it, apparently because the EU is supportive.

EDIT: Checking that Russian news guy's Instagram is a lot more informative. That looks like missile damage now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 11:35:08 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-39521332
QuoteRussians were present at the base the US struck on Thursday night but their role was not immediately known, CNN is quoting a US defense official as saying. And Reuters news agency is reporting that US officials said they informed Russian forces ahead of the missile attacks, and that there were no strikes on sections of the base where Russians were present.

And again, Air strikes very reliable. Always hit target exactly, no history of hitting hospitals, etc. Must assume now that Russians did not hang around anywhere near the base after being told. And the obvious question is now "Was russia informed by unofficial channels prior to being officially told?" I'm betting yes, and by a number of sources.

QuoteThe strike on the Shayrat airbase killed four Syrian soldiers and almost completely destroyed the facility, the UK-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says.

Or?

QuoteFrom BBC Monitoring: 

The Russian Defence Ministry says the US airstrike was ineffective, the Russian news agency Interfax reports.

"According to Russian monitoring tools, only 23 missiles reached the Syrian airbase. It's not clear where the remaining 36 cruise missiles fell," Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov is quoted as saying.

or?
QuoteMore from Russian journalist Yevgeny Poddubny, who has access to the bombed airbase for the news channel Rossiya 24.

He says nine Syrian military aircraft were destroyed. The covered hangars containing the aircraft had been struck. He said the runway was not damaged but is strewn with shrapnel.

QuoteRetired air commodore with the RAF, Dai Whittingham, told the Today programme it's likely the Tomahawk missiles used were "1000lbs" worth of warhead. He said they were "long-range and extremely accurate"

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live

Reading through now, those photos from the Russian govt -- if those were missiles, they were duds and have been carted away. The damage is absurdly minimal. I've seen malfunctioning fireworks do similar damage.

Russia says that the US strikes were basically supporting IS. There's also reports of civilian casualties despite the total lack of Russian casualties. Curious.

The Syrian rebels are confirming the US line /and/ target. The EU is supportive of the strike. The UK condemns it, apparently because the EU is supportive.

EDIT: Checking that Russian news guy's Instagram is a lot more informative. That looks like missile damage now.

UK apparently supportive.

Like I said, at the moment you can pretty much pick what you want to believe. It'll take a few days for reality to become obvious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 11:45:36 AM
I'm seeing runway damage that amounts to potholes and a /single/ heavily damaged (but probably still functional after you clean up the worst of the mess) hangar surrounded by unblemished ones, runway damage released by the Russian govt and hangar by a Russian news reporter.

No source I'm reading says all the missiles hit. There's talk about them being accurate but no one's asserting they didn't miss /anyway/. No one's denying the Russian count. That's a curious little tidbit, to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 11:45:36 AM
I'm seeing runway damage that amounts to potholes and a /single/ heavily damaged (but probably still functional after you clean up the worst of the mess) hangar surrounded by unblemished ones, runway damage released by the Russian govt and hangar by a Russian news reporter.

No source I'm reading says all the missiles hit. There's talk about them being accurate but no one's asserting they didn't miss /anyway/. No one's denying the Russian count. That's a curious little tidbit, to me.

I've seen the same pictures and it is indeed odd. Fair enough, Russia/Syria will be inclined to show pathetic pictures with minimal damage, but I'm not seeing any with massive infrastructure damage. It's worth noting that a fucking runway isn't the most complex of structures to rebuild. The loss of 9-13 planes is equally laughable. You've easily spent more than any damage caused.

What should be embarrassing the piss out of the US is not only did you apparently miss well over 50% of the time you fired, it's not clear where they landed as no obvious damage has been done. It implies that over half of what you fired were just duds. And wildly inaccurate duds at that.

I could do a hell of a lot of damage with 59,000 lbs of explosive. I'm familiar with MOD facilities over here and you could comfortably fuck one up beyond operational use for 6+months with a fraction of this amount. So either the Syrian facility is built to a standard far beyond the UK (not impossible) or any missiles fired are far less effective than what they're being marketed as.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 12:51:03 PM
There's also the alternative that someone put a clause in the mission plan that involved "casting a wide net" to catch "escaping targets" -- considering it /was/ internationally known it was going to happen before it actually did and all, that's a line that's plausible enough most people would buy it. It's also unrealistic because we're talking fucking cruise missiles, but I'm not sure reality entirely has a say in what happens around these parts anymore. This shit runs on soap opera drama rules.

Most airfields are surrounded by dickloads of nothing (for good reason). "Casting a wide net" will ensure the majority of them land ... nowhere and damage ... nothing and achieve ... fuck all. It'd be (arguably) a way to keep Assad and Putin happy while still appearing to do anything at all worth a damn.

The only other option I can think of is they explicitly toted out the ones so behind on maintenance that they were earmarked for return to the States and/or destroy in place, which requires the fucking operators to have been moles, which is unrealistic to the point of failing even soap opera drama rules. Cruise missiles historically have an effectiveness rate that is just about consistent with their rate of use (e.g. they rarely fail because they don't get used often enough to be able to afford failure -- iirc it's something like an avg success rate of 87% or thereabouts). The US military is a bit behind the pack, the Tomahawks run an 85% success rate, but that's still way better than what we were shown here. These would need to be a completely bad lot or, as stated, ones earmarked for destruction or total refurbishment if there were THAT many duds.

Being a military nerd has its moments at times like this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
QuoteCruise missiles historically have an effectiveness rate that is just about consistent with their rate of use (e.g. they rarely fail because they don't get used often enough to be able to afford failure -- iirc it's something like an avg success rate of 87% or thereabouts). The US military is a bit behind the pack, the Tomahawks run an 85% success rate, but that's still way better than what we were shown here. These would need to be a completely bad lot or, as stated, ones earmarked for destruction or total refurbishment if there were THAT many duds.

85% success rate? That seems a little high. And if you're right, which you may very well be, raises further questions about how many misses and lack of serious damage there has been. I would assume missiles needing maintenance/refurb would not get used at all as they represent a pretty significant risk to those firing them in the first place. "US sinks own ship due to dodgy missile" is a headline the military can't stand.

So what are the other reasonable options? Someone pulled a Schindler and has been selling the US bombs without the ability to go bang? Not likely, but can't rule it totally out these days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
QuoteCruise missiles historically have an effectiveness rate that is just about consistent with their rate of use (e.g. they rarely fail because they don't get used often enough to be able to afford failure -- iirc it's something like an avg success rate of 87% or thereabouts). The US military is a bit behind the pack, the Tomahawks run an 85% success rate, but that's still way better than what we were shown here. These would need to be a completely bad lot or, as stated, ones earmarked for destruction or total refurbishment if there were THAT many duds.

85% success rate? That seems a little high. And if you're right, which you may very well be, raises further questions about how many misses and lack of serious damage there has been. I would assume missiles needing maintenance/refurb would not get used at all as they represent a pretty significant risk to those firing them in the first place. "US sinks own ship due to dodgy missile" is a headline the military can't stand.

So what are the other reasonable options? Someone pulled a Schindler and has been selling the US bombs without the ability to go bang? Not likely, but can't rule it totally out these days.

It's my understanding that "success rate" just means "explodes", so the misses aren't relevant to that number. Essentially, 85% of the time, a Tomahawk that is fired will blow up when it hits something. I could be wrong there, I haven't read up on them in quite some time, but I'm pretty sure the number is correct (a quick Google certainly says so).

It's also my understanding that "dodgy missiles" are safer for the one firing than it might seem. Something like, there must be a successful launch for the explosives to arm, and the explosives must arm to detonate. Those details are second hand, from military personnel I know, so I can't give you any sources on those, but it makes sense from a logistics perspective -- the launchers tend to hold multiple missiles, and a single failed missile would destroy them all, along with the launcher and anyone/anything near it. That's costs in personnel, labor, materiel and (usually) vehicles. You'd think that you'd just religiously keep the dodgy ones out of circulation, but they have (again, to my understanding) fairly short maintenance cycles and spend a lot of time attached to units that may not always be able to offload them for maintenance when needed, not to mention regular human failures (someone misses the date and signs off on it anyway, etc). Safer to make sure that they won't blow up the one firing them off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 01:51:25 PM
https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/bgm-109.htm

QuoteIn all, Tomahawks firing power shows a greater than 85% success rate

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/bgm-109-operation.htm

Same exact blocks of text. Probably from a book (Maybe one of the Jane's compendiums?) or a government report.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/tomahawk/

QuoteThese missiles achieved an 85 percent success rate.
Citation from that site: "RGM/UGM-109 Tomahawk," in IHS Jane's Weapons: Strategic 2015-2016, ed. James C. O'Halloran (United Kingdom: IHS, 2015), 219-223. Seems like I was right. Jane's is a really, really good source for this sort of information.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
The more you know etc. , thanks!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 02:55:05 PM
No problem.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 07, 2017, 03:12:29 PM
Today I learned to be scared of 00.dusk
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 07, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
Today I learned not to be scared of american cruise missiles  :lulz:

*eta: Does this mean there are now a couple of dozen top secret missile guidance systems currently just lying around in the syrian desert?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:25:43 AM
Also, gonna go get a hair shirt to wear as penance for doubting Cain, who called this shit like an hour before it happened.

:cainftw: :cainftw::digtbk:

It's what I (don't) get paid the big bucks for.

The missile failure rate is interesting.  Lots of people are (correctly) pointing out that this was a very Wag the Dog moment - US policy towards Syria is apparently unchanged, Russia was informed before the strike (and undoubtedly passed that info onto Syria) etc.  It's also unclear what intelligence led to this base itself being struck - the White House claims it is where the chemical attack originated, but what agency made that determination, how was it made and how credible is that assessment (just last week, Trump was asking for raw intel.  Did a White House off the books "intel team" pick the target, or was it a "legit" intel agency).

And on top of that, it's Syria, so everyone has every reason to lie.  Trump, the Russians, the Assad govt, the rebels...it's going to be a shitshow of claims and counterclaims and disinfo. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:25:43 AM
Also, gonna go get a hair shirt to wear as penance for doubting Cain, who called this shit like an hour before it happened.

:cainftw: :cainftw::digtbk:

It's what I (don't) get paid the big bucks for.

The missile failure rate is interesting.  Lots of people are (correctly) pointing out that this was a very Wag the Dog moment - US policy towards Syria is apparently unchanged, Russia was informed before the strike (and undoubtedly passed that info onto Syria) etc.  It's also unclear what intelligence led to this base itself being struck - the White House claims it is where the chemical attack originated, but what agency made that determination, how was it made and how credible is that assessment (just last week, Trump was asking for raw intel.  Did a White House off the books "intel team" pick the target, or was it a "legit" intel agency).

And on top of that, it's Syria, so everyone has every reason to lie.  Trump, the Russians, the Assad govt, the rebels...it's going to be a shitshow of claims and counterclaims and disinfo.

The articles I've been reading say the information was confirmed by the Syrian resistance. I'd assume that the smart move here would be to say "well they told us and they're /right there watching it/ so who are we to say they lied?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
About the missile strike rate?  Or that the base was the one used in the chemical attack?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
About the missile strike rate?  Or that the base was the one used in the chemical attack?

The base. The missile strike rate was confirmed primarily by photos and video showing a laughably small amount of real damage (including two areas that looked like someone tossed a hand grenade down and literally pushed the shrapnel away with a broom after the smoke cleared... the concrete was scorched and had a chip mark or two FFS) and the Russian government.

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 07, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
Today I learned not to be scared of american cruise missiles  :lulz:

*eta: Does this mean there are now a couple of dozen top secret missile guidance systems currently just lying around in the syrian desert?

Probably not. I'm not entirely clear on how it all works, but cruise missiles tend to have impact sensors and a failsafe detonator that will slag the (computer) hardware on impact if it has the chance (e.g. in the event of a dud missile). I don't know if that's the case for the Tomahawks though. Either way, Russian cruise missiles are better in this case, and the Tomahawks can't be misdirected or jammed or whatever due to how their guidance systems function (wholly internal) so getting the hardware gets them nothing much.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2017, 05:01:48 PM
Ah, OK.  I was more referring to the intelligence angle, truth be told, when I was talking about the lying, though the oddness there could somehow link in with the greater oddness about the targeting in the first place.  There's an obvious explanation (Trump and Putin and Assad putting on a show) but I try to avoid the obvious explanations without something in the way of hard evidence to back it up.

If there wasn't photographic evidence, I'd also be interested to see which rebel group it was, because the rebels there are pretty ideologically split and not at all a united front.  The SDF is a creature of Turkey, Russia backs certain militias too, you have pro-US rebels, pro-Islamist rebels, pro-Islamist rebels funded by US allies...it's a complete nightmare, and one reason, despite desperately wishing for an end to the violence in Syria, I'm skeptical about intervention leading to lasting results. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Good point about Syria being informed. Implies any gear/people there were of no/low value to them and left as a sacrifice. Give it a week and we'll find out the 3/9/16 planes weren't even operational.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Good point about Syria being informed. Implies any gear/people there were of no/low value to them and left as a sacrifice. Give it a week and we'll find out the 3/9/16 planes weren't even operational.

All reports I can find say just that: they were being repaired.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 09:31:40 PM
Oh wow. So 60 missiles to scuff up a runway and damage some non working assets.

This does sound quite like the administration we know and loathe: incompetent and inept.

Book formally open for the date troops get sent in. Half an empty ashtray on June.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 09:31:40 PM
Oh wow. So 60 missiles to scuff up a runway and damage some non working assets.

This does sound quite like the administration we know and loathe: incompetent and inept.

Book formally open for the date troops get sent in. Half an empty ashtray on June.
Drippings from a can of stale "beer" on August. Can not included.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 11:11:16 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-alt-right-fans-bail-syria-strikes-130839954.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-alt-right-fans-bail-syria-strikes-130839954.html)

:a2m:
:hitlerbanjo:
:winning:
:drama1:
"Oh you can't always get what you waaannt!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 08, 2017, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on April 07, 2017, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Good point about Syria being informed. Implies any gear/people there were of no/low value to them and left as a sacrifice. Give it a week and we'll find out the 3/9/16 planes weren't even operational.

All reports I can find say just that: they were being repaired.

So I tried a silly thing and looked at the daily heil for pro-war porn.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4391446/DoD-releases-satellite-images-Syrian-airfield-hit-US.html

To save you bothering with the worthless heap of toss:

QuoteObservers said al-Sharyat Air Base was 'almost completely destroyed' by the 1,000lb warheads in a 30-minute barrage of destruction that is said to have destroyed 20 planes, a dozen aircraft hangars and a fuel depot, as well as ripped up runways.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/19/3F0CF7F600000578-4391446-Destruction_These_images_show_the_extent_of_the_destruction_wrou-m-34_1491590097693.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/18/3F0CF80D00000578-0-image-a-12_1491587954864.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/19/3F0CF81700000578-4391446-Disabled_The_damage_sustained_in_the_30_minute_attack_was_meant_-m-35_1491590116912.jpg)

This is not "Total destruction" by any measure. There's a few more pictures and a bit of film and it does look like the place is still largely intact and easily able to resume operations within a week or so if anyone was inclined to make that happen. What does seem to have happened is a decent size fire. The damage you can see looks a lot more like someone's had a good burn up or fire has been able to spread a reasonable distance. The planes shown under the bunkers, note bunkers still intact, look more like a good arson job than a missile strike. And 5 planes just sitting in the open are totally untouched. Which is odd again, because, you know, sitting duck, easy target, no bunker, no missile damage apparently anywhere near. Some of the bunkers are apparently "partially or fully collapsed", yet there doesn't seem to be a single picture of this. There's a video clip showing one with a hole in the roof but it's far from destroyed. 

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/22/3F0C4D6B00000578-4391446-image-a-6_1491599190559.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/07/22/3F0C4CCF00000578-4391446-image-a-8_1491599197103.jpg)

It's starting to feel like an insurance job, it's certaintly got a few parallels to one at least. Because I'd bet money I don't have that anything that got burnt up wasn't working anyway and those sat out in the open probably flew the fuck away earlier. If the deaths/injuries are limited to techs and support staff with no pilots or such, it starts looking very suspicious indeed.


You can now thank me for suffering the gibbering rantings of the mail so YOU don't have to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on April 07, 2017, 04:22:52 AM
It occurs to me that this attack is conveniently timed, just as the investigation into Trump's connections with Putin is gathering steam.

Assad (presumably) makes a senseless chemical attack on a no-name town miles from the fighting, and we spank Assad, thus proving that Putin and Trump are not sweethearts.

The Holy Man gonna Holy.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/07/missile-attack-brings-d-c-back-to-normal.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/07/missile-attack-brings-d-c-back-to-normal.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 09, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2017, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 07, 2017, 09:31:40 PM
Oh wow. So 60 missiles to scuff up a runway and damage some non working assets.

This does sound quite like the administration we know and loathe: incompetent and inept.

Book formally open for the date troops get sent in. Half an empty ashtray on June.
Drippings from a can of stale "beer" on August. Can not included.

I've got a can of Dinty Moore "Beef" Stew on "too late guys, we already sent 400 marines in about a month ago."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/world/middleeast/us-troops-syria.html?_r=0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 09, 2017, 08:20:16 PM
Oh FFS.

See this is what happens when the news revolves around one particular cretin. It reminds me of the Diana fallout in the UK to a degree. The attention is driven almost exclusively to one event/person that the government is able to push any agenda it pleases without scrutiny. I can remember precisely no other news around that period but I know there will have been all sorts of shit pulled if I bother to look. It's literally easier than its ever been to find out too.

Which leads to the larger problems of recognizing and trying to stop silly shit now while remembering all the stupid decisions that will need to be unpicked 30+ years from now, if there is even political will/ability to do that then. Name a police/military force that has radically scaled back tactics and toys in the last 50 years. An omnipresent possibility of a terror attack now being less likely is a story you're just not reading in your lifetime. Even if that is the case.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2017, 03:33:16 PM
Putin is now claiming he has intelligence that the US intends to fake chemical weapons attacks in Syria to allow them to intervene

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 11, 2017, 05:31:37 PM
So he's been reading Zerohedge? :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 11, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
It seems that Trump, Putin, Assad, and half of the Republicans are bent on starting WW3. The only thing that keeps them from doing it is that they can't agree on how to go about it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 11, 2017, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 11, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
It seems that Trump, Putin, Assad, and half of the Republicans are bent on starting WW3. The only thing that keeps them from doing it is that they can't agree on how to go about it.

Thusly, but nukes not knives... (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FPCGR9_GdhA)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 11, 2017, 09:06:31 PM
At least it's good theater.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 11, 2017, 05:31:37 PM
So he's been reading Zerohedge? :lulz:

Funny story, the guy who runs Zerohedge?  His dad was a diplomat and journalist for the People's Republic of Bulgaria.  He wrote for the Communist Party's own propaganda outlet...as a roving international commentator covering political and military conflicts.

If you're thinking NOC for the CSS's 1st Directorate...well, you're not the only one.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2017, 09:10:10 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 11, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
It seems that Trump, Putin, Assad, and half of the Republicans are bent on starting WW3. The only thing that keeps them from doing it is that they can't agree on how to go about it.

I give it less than 3 months before idiot proposes using chem/biochem weapons on the basis that it depopulated the area while leaving important hotels standing ready to be redeveloped.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 11, 2017, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 11, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 11, 2017, 05:31:37 PM
So he's been reading Zerohedge? :lulz:

Funny story, the guy who runs Zerohedge?  His dad was a diplomat and journalist for the People's Republic of Bulgaria.  He wrote for the Communist Party's own propaganda outlet...as a roving international commentator covering political and military conflicts.

If you're thinking NOC for the CSS's 1st Directorate...well, you're not the only one.

That adds a hilarious level to that rp debacle a while ago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2017, 09:24:46 PM
It's amazing how many popular conspiracy sites have ties to Russian figures.  Like Global Research.ca, Infowars, the LaRouchies...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 12, 2017, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 07, 2017, 03:31:50 PM*eta: Does this mean there are now a couple of dozen top secret missile guidance systems currently just lying around in the syrian desert?

Presumably they're only classified so that people won't know how bad they are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 12, 2017, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 12, 2017, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 07, 2017, 03:31:50 PM*eta: Does this mean there are now a couple of dozen top secret missile guidance systems currently just lying around in the syrian desert?

Presumably they're only classified so that people won't know how bad they are.

We actually know quite a bit about their guidance systems. They can't go very far off course (due to their GPS receiver), and the newest Block 4s "phone home" with their coordinates so that if they're deviating and don't realize, they can be corrected by humans. There's even facility for mission abort in the new ones, IIRC.

Here: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/bgm-109.htm
Also: http://science.howstuffworks.com/cruise-missile3.htm
And for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

They're very good. That's why this whole shitshow /stinks/. There's no way in hell that that many Tomahawk missiles get launched and less than half of them land on target. That requires unprecedented mass munitions failure or purposeful malevolence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 12, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-appears-back-away-bannon-i-steve-n745501 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-appears-back-away-bannon-i-steve-n745501)

QuoteI like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late," Trump said. "I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve. I'm my own strategist and it wasn't like I was going to change strategies because I was facing crooked Hillary.

QuoteSteve is a good guy, but I told them to straighten it out or I will.

:lulz:         :lulz:         :lulz:
:drama1:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 12, 2017, 05:31:44 PM
So at this rate it would probably be good to set up a pool on the job survival time of the remaining staffers, I remember people joked about it day one, but it seems to be a rate of one a week now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 13, 2017, 12:25:21 AM
Well it looks like spicer next. When you fuck up this consistently you're just asking to be sacked. And that's obvious even before the current Hitler debacle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 13, 2017, 02:21:39 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on April 12, 2017, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 12, 2017, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 07, 2017, 03:31:50 PM*eta: Does this mean there are now a couple of dozen top secret missile guidance systems currently just lying around in the syrian desert?

Presumably they're only classified so that people won't know how bad they are.

We actually know quite a bit about their guidance systems. They can't go very far off course (due to their GPS receiver), and the newest Block 4s "phone home" with their coordinates so that if they're deviating and don't realize, they can be corrected by humans. There's even facility for mission abort in the new ones, IIRC.

Here: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/bgm-109.htm
Also: http://science.howstuffworks.com/cruise-missile3.htm
And for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

They're very good. That's why this whole shitshow /stinks/. There's no way in hell that that many Tomahawk missiles get launched and less than half of them land on target. That requires unprecedented mass munitions failure or purposeful malevolence.

On the other hand, they've been on the shelf for a while, and anyone with hands-on experience with munitions can tell you what that means.  Also, more complexity means more failure points.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
And today, the Trump administration drops a MOAB on the collection of Taliban rejects otherwise known as ISIS in Afghanistan.

Despite the fact that ISIS in Afghanistan are hiding in the hills of the N2KL because both the government and the Taliban hate them, and they have no popular support.

Why not drop a bomb on the Taliban?  Well, that might upset Russia (http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-supporting-taliban-2017-1?r=US&IR=T).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 15, 2017, 04:24:05 PM
Looks like North Korea has missiles that can, at least in theory, hit things now and aren't just repainted SCUDs with parts from Pakistan and China.

Cue:

a) China desperately trying to keep the missiles pointed away from itself by promoting "dialogue"
b) South Korea and Japan going "well, fuck, but we we're always in range"
c) the US media shitting its pants, causing
d) Trump to shit his pants, causing
e) a further racheting of tensions with North Korea, possibly by adding ships to the naval task force already on its way to Korean waters and putting soldiers on the DMZ and in Japan on high alert, leading to
f) a whole lot of stupidity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 15, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
So the annual NK sabre rattling is going to be even funnier than usual then?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 15, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 15, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
So the annual NK sabre rattling is going to be even funnier than usual then?

Last night my feed was full of North Korea and arms control specialists going "ohhhh FUCK".  Not paraphrased.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 15, 2017, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 15, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
So the annual NK sabre rattling is going to be even funnier than usual then?

Last night my feed was full of North Korea and arms control specialists going "ohhhh FUCK".  Not paraphrased.

So it's going to be quite possibly /very/ /very/ funny, for radioactive values of "funny".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2017, 11:34:01 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on April 15, 2017, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 15, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
So the annual NK sabre rattling is going to be even funnier than usual then?

Last night my feed was full of North Korea and arms control specialists going "ohhhh FUCK".  Not paraphrased.

So it's going to be quite possibly /very/ /very/ funny, for radioactive values of "funny".

Let us not forget the chemical. VX is known to cause perma-GRIN. Sarin will choke you out, but as I hear it VX causes a sort of neurological signal cascade that causes contortion and muscular contraction strong enough to crush organs, break bones, and this can pull the facial muscles into... new places.

He killed his own brother with that shit. Wanna bet he's a full blown psycho with a god complex hopped up on meth and just itching to re-experience his fratricidal rush?

I'd like to think I'm wrong here, but my guts haven't been able to put it to rest since I heard HOW his bro died. It's always been amusing to me how little info actually makes it into "the news". Wouldn't want anybody to panic. It's bad for national security.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on April 16, 2017, 02:29:03 AM
I make a pointed effort to avoid thinking about VX and it never works for long.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2017, 03:19:47 AM
Quote from: Salty on April 16, 2017, 02:29:03 AM
I make a pointed effort to avoid thinking about VX and it never works for long.

Yeah. I'm just not even able to approach some of the things I think about with my councilor, whom I like and want to see continue being all functional and helping folks. The devil really IS in the details, and fuck that guy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 16, 2017, 08:09:28 AM
Doesn't help that the korean fuckhead is probably the saner of the two. :kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2017, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 16, 2017, 08:09:28 AM
Doesn't help that the korean fuckhead is probably the saner of the two. :kingmeh:

Better hair for sure, probably richer too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2017, 04:33:00 PM
I mean (especially since their test yesterday failed) North Korea is mostly likely to whack Japan in any actual conflict anyway.  Whacking South Korea would ruin any plans for reconciliation or indeed taking control of the South, at least outside of the DMZ (sure, you'd level Seoul.  Then the rest of the country would engage in protracted insurgency for FOREVER, and South Korea is like 50% hills and mountains, so have fun with that).  Not to mention even their shitty SCUDs can, most likely, hit Japan (somewhere).

But it does significantly alter the strategic calculus for states further away - Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan etc.  And that does exponentially expand the amount of trouble Kim Jong-Un can cause.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2017, 04:40:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 15, 2017, 08:16:22 PM
So the annual NK sabre rattling is going to be even funnier than usual then?

Last night my feed was full of North Korea and arms control specialists going "ohhhh FUCK".  Not paraphrased.

Struggling to be that level of concerned. I'd suggest that after the usual April display things will go back to the normal standoff. I can't see the US being able to organise their shit to deal with it in an effective way anytime soon and sk support would be needed which is unlikely to occur due to their own internal shitshow, if the urge to do so was even there.

Realistically, sk has the most to lose as an easy local target so I'm betting you'll find fuck all support in the wider region too.

What I'm wondering is what horrible shit will occur internally in the US while bad haircuts posture at each other.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2017, 04:33:00 PM
I mean (especially since their test yesterday failed) North Korea is mostly likely to whack Japan in any actual conflict anyway.  Whacking South Korea would ruin any plans for reconciliation or indeed taking control of the South, at least outside of the DMZ (sure, you'd level Seoul.  Then the rest of the country would engage in protracted insurgency for FOREVER, and South Korea is like 50% hills and mountains, so have fun with that).  Not to mention even their shitty SCUDs can, most likely, hit Japan (somewhere).

But it does significantly alter the strategic calculus for states further away - Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan etc.  And that does exponentially expand the amount of trouble Kim Jong-Un can cause.

Which leaves the region in general to push containment/appeasement then? China, sk, Japan will all be against attacking, Vietnam/Cambodia wouldn't help out of principle so your allies in an attack effort are who? UK, Australia and a few island nations? This is not a strategy likey to end in any kind of success and everyone involved surely knows this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2017, 05:12:01 PM
BBC just reporting "china and us working on strategy". Still skeptical. The two have radically different ideas about how to proceed and neither can back down or concede much from their stances without huge loss of face. If the US takes any offensive actions without Chinese support it basically proves nk propaganda correct. Which leaves the chances of pulling the hearts and minds shit dead in the dirt. Any attempts to reach out to the populace are doomed to fail. And it's not like the US has been particularly successful in that regard anywhere else in the world, ever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2017, 05:36:08 PM
Vietnam is actually on very good terms with the US nowadays.  They're concerned about China, so the US is lavishing arms on them and they're effectively a US ally in all but name.

South Korea and Japan are also quite reliant on US military protection, so if the US is hellbent on a military strike, they will fall in line publicly.

The bigger issue is China.  They dont have any real influence over North Korea anymore, not without using brute force methods - like cutting off food/fuel - which are likely to backfire on them and make them a more likely target for North Korean craziness.  China likes having North Korea as a buffer and as a potential threat against US allies in the region, but they're very aware of how unpredictable they can be, and how weak their influence over them really is.  But on the other hand, China profits from overall international stability, which North Korea is not contributing to.  China would also like to be able to access the mineral rich North Korea at some future point and profit from its mineral wealth - presumably as some kind of trade deal, development and access to international markets for raw goods kind of thing, which would see China assuming it's historically traditional role of "big brother" to (North) Korea.

But that's putting a potentially bright future against a more uncertain present.  And of course attempts to overthrow the entire regime would no doubt end in a lawless zone of failed state violence right on China's border.  So China will be risk-adverse in this scenario. 

Of course, it is entirely possible North Korea is doing this as some sort of bargaining chip, and wants to see what China will offer in return for decommissioning the missile program or whatever.  It's possible.  However, they do confer a sizeable military advanatage on North Korea, reliability aside, and given North Korea is basically run by the generals, this may outweigh all other considerations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
I suspect if we do see military action here by the US, it will be some kind of limited (ish) strike, to try and destroy their currently existing weapons and infrastructure to create them.  Then the work would be to find out who is helping them develop this program (almost certainly Pakistan and Burma.  I'm calling it now) and prevent them from supplying them with replacement parts.

But who the fuck knows what Trump is thinking at any given moment.  Not even Trump, I suspect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on April 16, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
I would have said that a US strike against nk would be out of the question, but I think the priority has shifted or will to prevent nk from setting a precedent by asserting their sovereignty in this fashion.

As far as their rocket technology goes, I'd love for it to come out that each failure was concealment of the debugging of various systems in isolation, and that they are much further along than we'd believe.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on April 16, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
I suspect if we do see military action here by the US, it will be some kind of limited (ish) strike, to try and destroy their currently existing weapons and infrastructure to create them.  Then the work would be to find out who is helping them develop this program (almost certainly Pakistan and Burma.  I'm calling it now) and prevent them from supplying them with replacement parts.

But who the fuck knows what Trump is thinking at any given moment.  Not even Trump, I suspect.

Good call on Burma. I don't understand Pakistan, but understand if you can't go into further detail there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2017, 06:18:30 PM
I also think a US strike would be an extreme response, but I feel it is much less out of the question now then it would have been a year ago. 

It's not "proven", but it's long been suspected and claimed that Pakistan sold missile components to North Korea which ended up aiding their nuclear program.

http://world.time.com/2011/07/07/a-q-khans-revelations-did-pakistans-army-sell-nukes-to-north-korea/

Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations for a more general background.  I suspect that relationship is ongoing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 16, 2017, 06:29:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
I suspect if we do see military action here by the US, it will be some kind of limited (ish) strike, to try and destroy their currently existing weapons and infrastructure to create them.  Then the work would be to find out who is helping them develop this program (almost certainly Pakistan and Burma.  I'm calling it now) and prevent them from supplying them with replacement parts.

But who the fuck knows what Trump is thinking at any given moment.  Not even Trump, I suspect.

Doubt even idiot is stupid/bold enough to attack anything without explicit support and assistance from China which he won't get due to reasons you outlined. The risk/reward just doesn't stack up to make it worthwhile. Would guess quality Intel is non existent so even picking targets becomes a huge challenge, chance of hitting civilians is massive and plays directly to nk propaganda goals.

Burma/Pakistan, I'd agree to be like supporters, would not rule out Russian technical assistance. Have a hunch on Malaysia as intermediary supplier. Would not be surprised at Iran links due to common problems with the US and "enemy of my enemy" thinking/similar long term goals.

Bargaining chip scenario seems probable, remember the story recently about China ditching nk coal? Bet that is what's driving lots of this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on April 16, 2017, 06:32:00 PM
North Korea will always have their giant meth operation
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
I was interested if North Korea's meth and heroin operation had a Pakistani component, given the role of the ISI in transferring it out of Afghanistan, but apparently it comes from over the border in China.  Which would make more sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on April 16, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
If there's a connection it would be the Pakistani submarines. Or so I heard a theory once.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2017, 09:55:58 PM
I'm sure they would be happy to make enough meth to sell to multiple cartels, especially if they're trading for missile parts or foreign currency, maybe even bitcoin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on April 16, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
Yes, Myanmar would be able to offload anything nk could produce.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 21, 2017, 09:06:56 PM
Oh Ho Ho! Sessions threatening Assange and wikileaks and linking them to Russia.

I'll be spending the night quietly chuckling. Also countdown on release of republican emails and whathaveyou formally open.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 25, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
Ho ho ho!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/23/europe/french-presidential-election-results/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 25, 2017, 02:52:35 AM
Fancy Bear has already been accused of hacking Macron's email servers.

Meanwhile, lets not forget this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38600560

QuoteFrance's far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen has been seen visiting Trump Tower in New York.

She declined to say whether she was there to see President-elect Donald Trump but the Trump team said there would be "no meetings".

Ms Le Pen is currently one of the top candidates for the first round of voting in April, opinion polls suggest.

The National Front leader has called Mr Trump's election "an additional stone in the building of a new world".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2017, 05:49:45 PM
And the laughs keep coming:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39704840

QuoteIdiot's daughter Ivanka was met with groans as she defended her father's attitude towards women at the G20 women's summit in Berlin.
The First Daughter was taking part in a panel discussion about female entrepreneurs alongside German chancellor, Angela Merkel, and IMF chief Christine Lagarde.
But the audience bristled at her praise for the US president.
The event is part of the G20 women's summit.
An audible groan went up as she told the room her father was a "tremendous champion of supporting families and enabling them to thrive".

Quote"He encouraged me and enabled me to thrive. I grew up in a house where there were no barriers to what I could accomplish," she added.

The missing words here are "at the expense of other families. More accurate would be something like: "I was able to thrive and have no barriers because Idiot was a relentless non-paying dick to countless contractors and firms and I got to use that money to do whatever I wanted to instead.".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 25, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Not to mention "my rich father let me do what I wanted" is not a policy position.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 25, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Not to mention "my rich father let me do what I wanted" is not a policy position.

Bingo.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 26, 2017, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 25, 2017, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 25, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Not to mention "my rich father let me do what I wanted" is not a policy position.

Bingo.

Hold on a minute, it gets funnier:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-budget-2018-state-department-cut-office-global-womens-issues-oxfam-ivanka-a7701631.html

QuoteDonald Trump plans to strip all funding from a State Department bureau that promotes the rights of women around the world, it has emerged.

Oxfam America led criticism of the move, saying said cutting funds for the Office of Global Women's Issues would have "dire consequences for millions of people, as well as our global standing".

Documents first leaked to Foreign Policy showed plans to reduce the office's 2016 budget of $8.25 million (£6.43 million) to zero in 2018, though the President's budget will still have to make it past Congress.

QuoteLeaked budget documents show the President also intends to strip funding from a series of other soft-power and scientific programmes within the State Department - including slashing two-thirds of the Bureau for Food Security's resources, and 95 per cent of funds for the Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs.

The $2.5 million budget for USAID's work with blind children is also set to disappear, according to the leaked documents. USAID is the agency that administers American foreign aid.

Nothing too surprising, we all knew it was coming. I'm just finding it hilarious that he couldn't supress this for a week or so and the result is effectively throwing his own (alleged) daughter under the bus.

I say alleged because I've not seen any DNA tests so I have no proof these relations are in fact related to him. I'd put good money on at least one not being. You know which one I mean.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 26, 2017, 03:18:44 AM
The best part is, he probably has no idea what these agencies do.  He's had to have North Korea explained to him by the Chinese (lol) and had NATO explained to him by his own military and other NATO leaders before he admitted he was wrong and that he was speaking from a position of ignorance on the topics. He'd rather bloviate and make up policy based on "gut" than take the time to learn about anything that he might actually have to deal with.

Isn't having a President learning on the go wonderful?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 26, 2017, 03:51:48 AM
Good thing we put an end to all those awful career politicians in the White House!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 29, 2017, 09:21:04 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouI5KcyHfE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouI5KcyHfE)
This is such a beautiful song I hate to do this, but I had to get the buzzing worm out of my ear. Parody demands sacrifice.

100 days, 100 nights
Of President Trump
100 days, 100 nights
Of President Trump
And his little hands
Grabbing things not his own

You know that Trump
Is known to blow
"Bigly wins"
Yes we know
But a day came
When his blow, his blow ran low

Yes it did
He maybe orange
He maybe loud
Shouts at folks
You don't like

But you knew one day his blow would run low

100 days, 100 nights
Of President Trump
100 days, 100 nights
Of President Trump
And his little hands
Grabbing things not his own

Wait a minute
Maybe he needs it all slowed down just a little
The job's hard

This President
Told folks things
Made them feel
Good to be mean
Nobody thought
He would have won
Then he did
Oh yes he did
That one day
We up and voted
For that clown
Face all orange and round
100 days of this shit, just the start

100 days, 100 nights
Of President Trump
100 days, 100 nights
Of that President Trump
And them little hands
Grabbing things not his own

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
Oh boy

QuoteKARL: I want to ask you about two things the President has said on related issues. First of all, there was what he said about opening up the libel laws. Tweeting "the failing New York Times has disgraced the media world. Gotten me wrong for two solid years. Change the libel laws?" That would require, as I understand it, a constitutional amendment. Is he really going to pursue that? Is that something he wants to pursue?

    PRIEBUS: I think it's something that we've looked at. How that gets executed or whether that goes anywhere is a different story. But when you have articles out there that have no basis or fact and we're sitting here on 24/7 cable companies writing stories about constant contacts with Russia and all these other matters—

    KARL: So you think the President should be able to sue the New York Times for stories he doesn't like?

    PRIEBUS: Here's what I think. I think that newspapers and news agencies need to be more responsible with how they report the news. I am so tired.

    KARL: I don't think anybody would disagree with that. It's about whether or not the President should have a right to sue them.

    PRIEBUS: And I already answered the question. I said this is something that is being looked at. But it's something that as far as how it gets executed, where we go with it, that's another issue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 06:39:14 PM
Idiots staff again showing themselves up. I do hope a very expensive lawyer explains to them very slowly that it's not libel when you're reporting facts. Or for entertainment purposes, which I understand to be one of the main reasons fox insists it isn't reporting news.

In vaguely related news, Alex Jones lost his divorce battle after pulling the "it's all an act" card. Which is going to make anything he says even more worthless in the future. I hope.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 01, 2017, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 06:39:14 PM
Idiots staff again showing themselves up. I do hope a very expensive lawyer explains to them very slowly that it's not libel when you're reporting facts. Or for entertainment purposes, which I understand to be one of the main reasons fox insists it isn't reporting news.

In vaguely related news, Alex Jones lost his divorce battle after pulling the "it's all an act" card. Which is going to make anything he says even more worthless in the future. I hope.

"It's not what you say it's how you say it" is now literally so true that the fate of civilization as we know it hangs in the balance.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 01, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
Also, the fact that the president is now "looking into" a constitutional amendment in order to get rid of the freedom of speech because his royal ego cannot handle criticism, even criticism based on fact, should sound certain alarms. Can't necessarily hear those alarms above all the other alarms going off, but still.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
A President advocating legal restrictions on criticizing the administration should be taken as a direct threat to democracy, but unfortunately, I think a lot of Americans don't really understand or care.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
A President advocating legal restrictions on criticizing the administration should be taken as a direct threat to democracy, but unfortunately, I think a lot of Americans don't really understand or care.

It's a little worse than that, around 50% probably agree with idiot and think it should be dealt with immediately.

I would be very surprised if you told me more than 50% of americans even know the difference between slander and libel. I'm doubtful even 10% of the UK population can.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 02, 2017, 01:03:14 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 01, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
Also, the fact that the president is now "looking into" a constitutional amendment in order to get rid of the freedom of speech because his royal ego cannot handle criticism, even criticism based on fact, should sound certain alarms. Can't necessarily hear those alarms above all the other alarms going off, but still.

This is the future I was warned about promised by Phillip K Dick.

And it demonstrates the value of the opposition chewing on it's own skin and screeching that the other side of the left are the worst people ever. 

America earned this shit.  The right by actively wanting it, and the left by being more concerning with attention-whoring than in stopping it.

I shit on everyone involved.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 02, 2017, 02:54:50 AM
A disgustingly large percentage of Americans now openly identify with their nationalist bigotry more strongly than with the supposed ideological foundations of this country. It's why the moderates and the liberals are so off balance. We* have spent a long time convincing ourselves that "patriots" must be susceptible to an appeal to the better sides of "American" idealism -- that equality, progress, and liberty must be their intention, it's just that their fervent conservatism is just a misguided approach to these. Well, as it happens, not so much really. The hard-right are now reveling in their newfound freedom from having to so much as pay lip service to such ideals. It was everything we could not believe because it was too horrible to fathom.

If only we had actually listened to the entire classes of people who have been screaming about this for fifty years.





* "We" in this context means all of us comfortable and highly intelligent "Liberals" who always knew for sure that history was just a long march in a straight line toward Utopia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 02, 2017, 03:08:45 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 02, 2017, 02:54:50 AM
A disgustingly large percentage of Americans now openly identify with their nationalist bigotry more strongly than with the supposed ideological foundations of this country. It's why the moderates and the liberals are so off balance. We* have spent a long time convincing ourselves that "patriots" must be susceptible to an appeal to the better sides of "American" idealism -- that equality, progress, and liberty must be their intention, it's just that their fervent conservatism is just a misguided approach to these. Well, as it happens, not so much really. The hard-right are now reveling in their newfound freedom from having to so much as pay lip service to such ideals. It was everything we could not believe because it was too horrible to fathom.

If only we had actually listened to the entire classes of people who have been screaming about this for fifty years.





* "We" in this context means all of us comfortable and highly intelligent "Liberals" who always knew for sure that history was just a long march in a straight line toward Utopia.

I think my years of ranting place me outside of the "we" category.  I knew this shit was going to happen, and hollered about it right here 15 years ago.

I don't think this makes me smarter or more insightful, just more pessimistic and misanthropic...And even MY doomsaying turned out to be idiotically optimistic.

And I will go on record here and now as saying it isn't going to improve.  The smart liberals are too busy shitting in their own nest to be bothered and the other side is the problem.

But at least we can all wear smug grins and say "I told you so", which has to count for something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 02, 2017, 03:21:15 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 06:39:14 PM
Idiots staff again showing themselves up. I do hope a very expensive lawyer explains to them very slowly that it's not libel when you're reporting facts.

That's alright though - they can just put the barrier for libel so low that they can't fail to win.

It will completely destroy freedom of speech, but since when has Trump cared about that?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 02, 2017, 03:23:16 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 02, 2017, 03:08:45 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 02, 2017, 02:54:50 AM
A disgustingly large percentage of Americans now openly identify with their nationalist bigotry more strongly than with the supposed ideological foundations of this country. It's why the moderates and the liberals are so off balance. We* have spent a long time convincing ourselves that "patriots" must be susceptible to an appeal to the better sides of "American" idealism -- that equality, progress, and liberty must be their intention, it's just that their fervent conservatism is just a misguided approach to these. Well, as it happens, not so much really. The hard-right are now reveling in their newfound freedom from having to so much as pay lip service to such ideals. It was everything we could not believe because it was too horrible to fathom.

If only we had actually listened to the entire classes of people who have been screaming about this for fifty years.





* "We" in this context means all of us comfortable and highly intelligent "Liberals" who always knew for sure that history was just a long march in a straight line toward Utopia.

I think my years of ranting place me outside of the "we" category.  I knew this shit was going to happen, and hollered about it right here 15 years ago.

I don't think this makes me smarter or more insightful, just more pessimistic and misanthropic...And even MY doomsaying turned out to be idiotically optimistic.

And I will go on record here and now as saying it isn't going to improve.  The smart liberals are too busy shitting in their own nest to be bothered and the other side is the problem.

But at least we can all wear smug grins and say "I told you so", which has to count for something.

I don't disagree we should have done more. But I am not smart enough to know what "more" consists of.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 03, 2017, 01:24:26 AM
Jeff Sessions has decided to just ignore freedom of speech entirely (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department):

QuoteThese details are all salient for the legal case, but it's important not to lose sight of the big picture here: The federal government is literally prosecuting someone for laughing. As if that wasn't bad enough, the Justice Department — which Sessions now leads as attorney general — is doing the prosecuting when the laughter was directed at its leader. At the very least, it's not a good look for the top law enforcement agency in the country.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
Whichever way this goes, I'm sure of one thing: it's going to be funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
A President advocating legal restrictions on criticizing the administration should be taken as a direct threat to democracy, but unfortunately, I think a lot of Americans don't really understand or care.

It's a little worse than that, around 50% probably agree with idiot and think it should be dealt with immediately.

I would be very surprised if you told me more than 50% of americans even know the difference between slander and libel. I'm doubtful even 10% of the UK population can.

Thank you for correcting a statement that didn't need correction in order to agree with me while looking like you're contradicting me, I guess?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 06:46:37 PM
This happens on reddit all the time. It's quite a pet peeve of mine.

[Implies disagreement or correction follows]
[statement has orthogonal truth value or relevance]
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 06:46:37 PM
This happens on reddit all the time. It's quite a pet peeve of mine.

[Implies disagreement or correction follows]
[statement has orthogonal truth value or relevance]

Seems like it's mostly a dude thing, though my mom does it all the time too so maybe not. "Well, actually... [implied disagreement that doesn't actually contradict anything anyone has said]"

I think it's a way of trying to look more knowledgeable about the subject than the other person. It's really annoying and it's a bad habit I wish would die forever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
I concur. Then when you get spectators reacting as though the person just "scored a point" by making these asinine statements, that is the icing on cake.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
I concur. Then when you get spectators reacting as though the person just "scored a point" by making these asinine statements, that is the icing on cake.

Makes me wonder whether social interaction that involves upvotes is the origin of the habit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 03, 2017, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
A President advocating legal restrictions on criticizing the administration should be taken as a direct threat to democracy, but unfortunately, I think a lot of Americans don't really understand or care.

It's a little worse than that, around 50% probably agree with idiot and think it should be dealt with immediately.

I would be very surprised if you told me more than 50% of americans even know the difference between slander and libel. I'm doubtful even 10% of the UK population can.

Thank you for correcting a statement that didn't need correction in order to agree with me while looking like you're contradicting me, I guess?

The quantification was for comedy, the actual point was how many people don't actually know the difference between slander and libel and use the terms interchangeably.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
I concur. Then when you get spectators reacting as though the person just "scored a point" by making these asinine statements, that is the icing on cake.

-2 points. Be more amusing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
I wasn't criticizing you junkenstein. I was responding to the phenomenon Nigel outlined. Afterall, you claimed that's not what you were doing, right...?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 09:03:58 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
I wasn't criticizing you junkenstein. I was responding to the phenomenon Nigel outlined. Afterall, you claimed that's not what you were doing, right...?

-1 point.

You'll never get the chance at the mystery box at this rate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:10:37 PM
I already got the mystery box. Trump's Presidency was in there along with your rebuttals.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 09:15:48 PM
-3 Points.

A bag of shit has been dispatched. By shit, I mean crack. And by crack, I mean actual sheep faeces.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:17:31 PM
That's what I said. Asinine rebuttals man
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
Do you have some sort of ethical stance against making with the funny?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 09:32:42 PM
Anyway, here's a bit of a laugh:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/03/politics/abbas-trump-white-house-meeting/index.html

QuoteTrump reiterated the need for Israelis and Palestinians to broker a peace through direct negotiations and called on Palestinian leaders to "speak in a unified voice against incitement to violence and hate."
"There's such hatred, but hopefully there won't be such hatred for very long," Trump said, speaking alongside Abbas in the Roosevelt Room.

Continuing a trend of other world leaders teaching idiot how their part of the world works, Abbas appears to have had to explain the Palestine problem.

It's a good job he's not appointed a diplomat who thinks the exact opposite.... oh. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
I guess you could say I do have an ethical problem if this is the shit you find humorous. That's fear induced laughter. Violence seems way more appropriate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:40:33 PM
Healthy laughter can follow after that
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 03, 2017, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:40:33 PM
Healthy laughter can follow after that

So too can unhealthy laughter
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on May 03, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
If there's one good thing that could possibly come from the Trump Presidency, it would be if Trumpsters get just a glimmer of an idea that international politics are hard.

Most of them, it seems, think something along the lines of "I tell you wut, we just need to git in thurr an be all like 'Hey yall, we're Amurrica and this is how it is (PEW! PEW!)' an then they'll be all like 'oh shit, yall! Amurrica's back, we better straighten up an kwit screwin around! An we'll be all like "Hell yeah, they's a new shurruf in town, and it's US! (Ptoo... Ding!)" An we'll git in there and Git er Dunn an then everyboddy will respek the hell outta us"

So, in that sense, I'm kind of behind Trump's "Golly gee whizz. This is more complicated that I realized." message.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 10:07:28 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
I guess you could say I do have an ethical problem if this is the shit you find humorous. That's fear induced laughter. Violence seems way more appropriate.

You really don't get the laugh I'm talking about. It's not a happy, healthy laugh. It's the kind of laugh you can only have after bitterness and cynicism is beaten into your very bones and then beaten out again, then beaten back in again to teach you the real lesson.

Please, by all means show me something you find funny and teach me your ways. You've utterly failed to amuse me so far but I have faith in you.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 03, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
If there's one good thing that could possibly come from the Trump Presidency, it would be if Trumpsters get just a glimmer of an idea that international politics are hard.

Most of them, it seems, think something along the lines of "I tell you wut, we just need to git in thurr an be all like 'Hey yall, we're Amurrica and this is how it is (PEW! PEW!)' an then they'll be all like 'oh shit, yall! Amurrica's back, we better straighten up an kwit screwin around! An we'll be all like "Hell yeah, they's a new shurruf in town, and it's US! (Ptoo... Ding!)" An we'll git in there and Git er Dunn an then everyboddy will respek the hell outta us"

So, in that sense, I'm kind of behind Trump's "Golly gee whizz. This is more complicated that I realized." message.

Fetch the wagon and the hose, we've got ourselves an optimist here.

Anyway, I disagree. This would involve people absorbing new information which contradicts their worldview. The chances of this happening are similar to my next fart being a full rendition of the works of Brahms. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 10:19:02 PM
Yea, to me that sounds like slave-laughter.

http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/18aparable.html

The last line is peak laughter.

I'm inclined to agree with Howard. The only thing I would add is just that the pool of people who make those steps shrink rapidly at each step,  and those are only the first two.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on May 03, 2017, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 03, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
If there's one good thing that could possibly come from the Trump Presidency, it would be if Trumpsters get just a glimmer of an idea that international politics are hard.

Most of them, it seems, think something along the lines of "I tell you wut, we just need to git in thurr an be all like 'Hey yall, we're Amurrica and this is how it is (PEW! PEW!)' an then they'll be all like 'oh shit, yall! Amurrica's back, we better straighten up an kwit screwin around! An we'll be all like "Hell yeah, they's a new shurruf in town, and it's US! (Ptoo... Ding!)" An we'll git in there and Git er Dunn an then everyboddy will respek the hell outta us"

So, in that sense, I'm kind of behind Trump's "Golly gee whizz. This is more complicated that I realized." message.

Fetch the wagon and the hose, we've got ourselves an optimist here.

Anyway, I disagree. This would involve people absorbing new information which contradicts their worldview. The chances of this happening are similar to my next fart being a full rendition of the works of Brahms.

Fersure, man, Fersure.

So far, the only actionable route that I have seen to take comes about due to my observation that a sizeable chunk of those people also believe that medicine is a scam, and that you can treat cancer, heart disease, diabeetus, lupus... etc, with some concoction consisting of honey, garlic, ginger, dandelions, vinegar, and whatever other shit they can find in their yard. I've been encouraging them to stop taking their bullshit pills, and drop their health insurance, and just drink honey ginger dandelion vinegar instead.

I have no way of knowing if it's working or not, but hopefully I've killed a couple of them by now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 10:19:02 PM
Yea, to me that sounds like slave-laughter.

http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/18aparable.html

The last line is peak laughter.

I'm inclined to agree with Howard. The only thing I would add is just that the pool of people who make those steps shrink rapidly at each step,  and those are only the first two.

- 5 points. Koans are forbidden.

You could have saved us all a lot of time by just saying you don't understand.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 10:59:38 PM
Or you can admit that every time you laugh in that fashion, all you are saying is "look how right I am, does anyone else see this?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:05:48 PM
After you've had your chuckle and you ask yourself And then? following it up with more of the same is just that; watching yourself being dismantled by remoras who've realized they can eat more than cast off waste
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 11:07:33 PM
I really don't think you get why and what I'm laughing at. But +1 point for giving me a quick one there.

Do you want to try a Sufi parable now? I hear they make you look really sophisticated. Not even slightly pretentious.



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:05:48 PM
After you've had your chuckle and you ask yourself And then? following it up with more of the same is just that; watching yourself being dismantled by remoras who've realized they can eat more than cast off waste

Oh, I am wounded, WOUNDED. With this nonsensical mess of shit you are really spoiling me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
I don't think you get that the only thing that laughter gets you is to be put in the category of non-factor along with the audience of colbert, noah, the British nerd and the rest. You've become the laugh track of the big bang theory.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:05:48 PM
After you've had your chuckle and you ask yourself And then? following it up with more of the same is just that; watching yourself being dismantled by remoras who've realized they can eat more than cast off waste

Oh, I am wounded, WOUNDED. With this nonsensical mess of shit you are really spoiling me.

It's not directed personally. Isn't that how this began?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 11:44:44 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
I don't think you get that the only thing that laughter gets you is to be put in the category of non-factor along with the audience of colbert, noah, the British nerd and the rest. You've become the laugh track of the big bang theory.

Dear fellow, I'm not sure you're able to understand quite how wrong you are.

Laughing a lung up at something is a holy rite(tm pending) and you're going to remain incomplete until you learn it.

While Nero fiddled, The ancient order of HA HA was born. We Laughed at the plagues. We laughed at Napoleon. And again at Napoleon. And again at Napoleon. We laugh every time someone marches at Moscow in the winter. What can we say beyond certain hats are amusing? We Laugh at the 3 Stooges, Auschwitz and the continuing decisions to throw nuclear bombs around for testing purposes. We Laugh at Tommy Cooper's last show. We Laugh at the ways of Clinton Clifford and Little Larry. We Laugh at corruption and watch to see who isn't laughing because that's where the bribes went. We laugh at how much asbestos is in your house and workplace right now. We laugh at radioactive clocks which are still more common than you may think. The constant appearance of HA HA ONLY SERIOUS is everywhere if you know where to look. Just look at anything, you'll find it.

Sitting there with your straight face hanging out may work for you. If dying of a heart attack at 30-odd is your goal. By all means let these things be VERY SERIOUS for you. That's not an entirely bad thing but by doing so you give them a level of importance they quite frankly don't deserve.

Power can suffer practically anything apart from people's laughter. Do you think idiot hates the media because it takes him seriously? The cretin hates SNL because people laugh at a caricature of him. It undermines his very sense of self as a WEALTHY IMPORTANT PERSON. It kicks his inner child and reminds them that they were once a small screaming human with no control over his bowels. And he's close to the other end of the scale now so that's a serious worry for him. One of the last posts was specifically about prosecuting someone FOR laughing. That alone should give you an understanding of how much power hates HA HA.

The world is very large and complex. I can affect and change a relatively tiny part of it. Even with a couple of lottery wins tomorrow, I would still only be able to change a tiny fraction of it. But yet with modern technology, I can know about vast parts of it. And I'll be FUCKED BLUE if you're telling me not to laugh at it.

Because you've got to laugh at all of it. Dictators with toupees and crazy ideas are fucking hilarious. People acting in vast numbers against their own best interests is downright hysterical. The determination of hordes of idiots wanting to be the boot that stamps on others is a god-damn riot. The only reaction these things deserve is a solid HA HA directly to the face.

So please, take your humourless arse outside and laugh in somethings face. It's liberating, if you have the balls to do so. Or you can sit there and fret about how very serious and sad it all is and try and work out what to do. Here's the thing though, one of us will be having a fucking good time.

Probably me, because I'll be laughing sputum and spittle into your goddamn face. And then I'll laugh at your reaction too for good measure.


TL;DR - Shove your big bang theory up your arse. Sideways. With gusto.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:54:27 PM
This is a monument to weakness and helplessness.

What happened I thought you loved to provide the laugh track to reality politics which is as funny as the big bang theory? It's your schtick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:59:08 PM
No one can discern your ironic laughter from the mouthbreathers who think it's literally humorous.

Listen to the endless screaming underneath that. Laugh in those people's faces. With enough alt-left counter pepes even you can make a difference. GTFOHWTBS
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:01:59 AM
Well o wise and powerful one what have you got to offer?  Because "fuck all" seems to be what you bring to the table. It sure as fuck isn't funny, whatever it is.

As nasrudin said, "Christ this guy is dull".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
Bullets in domes bitch
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
If only there were enough bullets and if only it mattered
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:16:21 AM
I don't know if you noticed, but a protest used to be a statement, "Look at the size of this mob. Fix it now or else"

Now it's a selfie photo op.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:17:06 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
Bullets in domes bitch

How very edgy. I bet all your friends think you're really cool, eh?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:20:36 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:17:06 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
Bullets in domes bitch

How very edgy. I bet all your friends think you're really cool, eh?

RP is literally more of a threat than what your professed perspective suggests about you, so there's that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:20:36 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:17:06 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
Bullets in domes bitch

How very edgy. I bet all your friends think you're really cool, eh?

RP is literally more of a threat than what your professed perspective suggests about you, so there's that.

I suppose that makes me a target for one of your bullets then, right killer?

Stop embarrassing the species. There's enough people doing that already so try for a bit of originality for once.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:25:59 AM
No. You're helping by laughing. You've already transcended the entire situation of systemic institutional violence, corruption, and all of that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:29:58 AM
> makes me a target

Do you have theory of mind? It's not about you.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:32:14 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:25:59 AM
No. You're helping by laughing. You've already transcended the entire situation of systemic institutional violence, corruption, and all of that.

Yep, pretty much. I teach others how to do so too for exorbitant fees. So what are you doing? Boring the evils of the world to death one by one? Keeping Cthulhu from rising by droning in monotone? Random vigilante violence?

Seriously, what have you got to offer? Because you're making it clear whatever it is, isn't funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:29:58 AM
> makes me a target

Do you have theory of mind? It's not about you.

I'm still waiting for you to explain, well, anything. I'll take "theory of mind" for $100 Jim.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 02:23:07 AM
Explain what? Do what?  Laughter cures the situation, the people just aren't laughing hard enough.

My fees are more modest but Google is killing the industry these days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:20:26 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
I guess you could say I do have an ethical problem if this is the shit you find humorous. That's fear induced laughter. Violence seems way more appropriate.

I just want to point out that FUCK YOU for telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't find humor in.

Seriously, go choke on a Buick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:22:33 AM
When did that occur?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:22:41 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
I don't think you get that the only thing that laughter gets you is to be put in the category of non-factor along with the audience of colbert, noah, the British nerd and the rest. You've become the laugh track of the big bang theory.

Jesus, I bet you're fun at parties.

You know, those things you'd get invited to if you weren't such a twatty killjoy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:26:33 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:22:41 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
I don't think you get that the only thing that laughter gets you is to be put in the category of non-factor along with the audience of colbert, noah, the British nerd and the rest. You've become the laugh track of the big bang theory.

Jesus, I bet you're fun at parties.

You know, those things you'd get invited to if you weren't such a twatty killjoy.

Sorry your words are garbled over the self-aggrandizing meta-ironic autofellatio
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:27:20 AM
This is a large part of the reason we're fucked.

At least 50% of the people with the "correct" worldview are such twunts that it becomes very difficult to care about "winning" when it just means more of the same with different window dressing.

I mean yeah, systemic oppression and violence are terrible things but you know what else is terrible? Boring self-righteousness. And frankly, if I've got a gun to my head I'm not choosing boring self-righteousness over systemic violence and oppression.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 04, 2017, 06:29:08 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:25:59 AM
No. You're helping by laughing. You've already transcended the entire situation of systemic institutional violence, corruption, and all of that.

Oh look, a real live revolutionary. I'll bet you even have a whole basement stocked with a three-year supply of manga and Kleenex.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:30:55 AM
Just say violence is never acceptable or desirable and get it over with.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:33:04 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:30:55 AM
Just say violence is never acceptable or desirable and get it over with.

Boy, are YOU in the wrong crowd. :lulz:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:36:43 AM
I commit more violence every time I take my morning dump than you've probably ever managed in your entire life and I'm barely in the middle of the pack around here in that respect. Some of these guys break out their own teeth when they get bored and there's nobody more deserving around.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:38:19 AM
It's just, y'know, we're not quite as smart as you so we haven't yet figured out how to out-violence THE SYSTEM, man.

Please, oh wonderous guru, enlighten us. :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:39:19 AM
That's commendable. But I thought the sanctioned response was

"Oh so you're a tough guy now "
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:46:50 AM
The system is invincible to everything except laughter. I thought this was known
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
Your boy was laughed all the way into the presidential palace hahaha wow look at his tiny hands
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:55:22 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:36:43 AM
I commit more violence every time I take my morning dump than you've probably ever managed in your entire life and I'm barely in the middle of the pack around here in that respect. Some of these guys break out their own teeth when they get bored and there's nobody more deserving around.

"I laugh impotently while getting fucked and when I'm not doing that I destroy myself in response to violence"

Tell me more about the BIP
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
Who told you to laugh at tragedy, destroy yourself, and condemn violence against the system? Was it your friend?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 07:25:47 AM
Who taught you reading comprehension? :lulz:

They let you down, Spanky.

But hey, dig those heels in harder. You're probably making headway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 07:30:25 AM
Not only do I not condemn violence against the system, I absolutely condone it in much the same way that I condone you flapping your arms and trying to fly.

If you think it'll get you off the ground I'm more than happy to offer all the encouragement I can.

:retard:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 07:32:19 AM
Then satire harder. Same difference
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 07:41:56 AM
Sorry to break it to you, Chuckles, but we kind of live in a post-satire world now. We've even Poe's Law-ed Poe's Law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
 :lulz:

I'm still waiting to hear all about this theory of mind, among other things. Or should I just assume you're terminally dull?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 09:20:49 AM
So, this is an example of what I sometimes worry I look like.

See, I take all of this /very/ seriously. Deathly seriously, even. I do the research and put in the work and make sure I'm doing the /right thing/. I worry about ethics and morality more on a given day than the vast, vast majority of humans who have (who will EVER) live have in their entire lives. I worry, I get anxious, I stress, I drive myself /fucking batty/. Seriously.

And then I cackle like a methed up hooligan and start throwing rocks at cars because by fucking god if I don't do something stupid I'll be this nosy self-absorbed cunt over here, telling other people about my ethical conclusions and leaning on them to DO THE RIGHT THING OR ELSE THEY'RE FUCKING AWFUL. That shit? That's just another part of Them. That's the part of Them that They've automated, put in gear. The part They normally don't need to say out loud because pompous fuckmissiles will do it for Them and They can avoid direct blame. It's the part beaten into the heads of kids who do not, can not know any better -- not so they'll learn now but so they'll fall in with the jackboots when the Great Headstomp comes around.

Mithridates, you have missed the entire point of Discordia. Discordia has no room for people who can't dress up for the disco (yeah, the dead one) and no room for people who can't laugh themselves bloodshot and shitting themselves over all this fucking INJUSTICE. You have become the very Greyface the Principia Discordia warned about. There's a traditional response to it, but I just woke up and haven't really slept enough and you really just are not worth it. It's easier to give you a reply in as close to your language as I can manage and hope, potentially, you get the sudden urge to fuck off -- or maybe to laugh a little before you become one of Them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:46:46 AM
That's an interesting and we'll reasoned response. If it wasn't directed to the intellectual equivalent of a grape it might have done some good.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 10:06:54 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:46:46 AM
That's an interesting and we'll reasoned response. If it wasn't directed to the intellectual equivalent of a grape it might have done some good.

I agree. I don't know why I bothered. But I'm pretty fucking serious myself, so maybe it's some creepy feeling of distant kinship, like baboons must feel when they look at dogs in Greece.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 04, 2017, 10:28:13 AM
The line between horror and mirth is getting harder to tread.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
You're doing fine. As I said, there is nothing wrong with seriousness, its only a problem when that is all you are and all you've got to offer. Or when you are a serious fuckwit like Mitty23 here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: Xaz on May 04, 2017, 10:28:13 AM
The line between horror and mirth is getting harder to tread.

Not really. Its as wide (or narrow, depending on your perspective) as its always been. There's just been a bit of re-branding here and there so it feels new.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 11:00:24 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: Xaz on May 04, 2017, 10:28:13 AM
The line between horror and mirth is getting harder to tread.

Not really. Its as wide (or narrow, depending on your perspective) as its always been. There's just been a bit of re-branding here and there so it feels new.

If I were going to make the proportion of Horrormirth into a law, it'd be something like, "|horror|+|mirth|=horrormirth".

I should probably explain that formula.

There's a middle ground where horrible things aren't very funny. A good example of this is cancer, AIDS, etc -- it's rare enough that you don't need to laugh at it to survive with your brain intact, but common enough that it doesn't seem right to laugh at it to make light of your own eventual horrible demise.

There's also a middle ground where funny things being real isn't particularly horrible: take the Weird as an example. Our Weird, that is. Harmless jakes and pranks that leave you feeling, maybe the world isn't what it's made out to be after all?

But when funny is either real low or real high, it gets more horrible, and vice versa. So the two "elements" of horrormirth are both absolute values.

This means essentially that the lowest value of horrormirth is 0. And as the world gets more horrible (or if it gets really non-horrible), that goes up, and the same is true of it getting funnier or less funny.

I'd say this world is pretty fucking horrible, and rapidly declining. And the Funny we got around is definitely Horrible in some way. (I can't tell which direction it's going, but does it /really/ matter if it's not keeping pace with the Bad Hair with Good Values™?) Therefore, Horrormirth has Increased.

(Psst. This is what I mean by taking myself seriously.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 04, 2017, 11:08:55 AM
This echoes an interesting point someone mentioned recently - the PD itself was heavy on the Funny but the BIP was more on the serious side.

As horror increases is it important (or possible) for mirth to increase proportionally or does mirth fall as horror rises?

Is there actually more horror now than in the 70s? I don't know - I wasn't around back then.



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
As horror increases, mirth increases with it. It's a pretty constant thing.

Proof:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/jeff-sessions-woman-guilty-laughing-year-jail-sentence-code-pink-protester-a7716456.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 11:38:41 AM
Further proof:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-spicer-donald-trump-mexican-border-wall-definition-white-house-reporters-press-corps-funding-a7717196.html

QuoteSean Spicer has been drawn into a public row with reporters over whether Donald Trump's vision of a "big, beautiful wall" along the Mexican border is actually just a fence.

QuoteCharlie Spiering, whose employer Breitbart has prolifically supported Mr Trump, asked why the President was not "fighting for the wall he promised" as funding proposals were turned down in a government-wide budget.

QuoteThe row came day after the press secretary walked out of his own briefing without answering any questions, as incredulous reporters called out "Sean, come on Sean!".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 11:48:41 AM
And finally:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-nepotism-criticism-eric-trump-family-a7679101.html

QuoteEric Trump, President Donald Trump's son, defended his father against accusations of family bias by calling nepotism "a beautiful thing."

QuoteEric extended his praise for nepotism to the White House, commending the influential role his sister, Ivanka, plays in his father's administration.

"I think the beautiful thing about family is you play on a little bit of a different dynamic," he said, "and once in a while you can pull them aside and say: 'No disrespect but you might want to think about this or maybe you crossed the line here.'"

Worth noting that we've seen no DNA testing so we can't be sure this is actually idiots son. Would be nice to see a test, which will probably be negative on at least one of these alleged kids, and then see how long they keep their "jobs".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 04, 2017, 12:12:34 PM
I must admit I am finding it hard to see the funny through the avalanche of weird shit that keeps happening. 

Easier to just tune out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
:lulz:

I'm still waiting to hear all about this theory of mind, among other things. Or should I just assume you're terminally dull?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 09:20:49 AM
So, this is an example of what I sometimes worry I look like.

See, I take all of this /very/ seriously. Deathly seriously, even. I do the research and put in the work and make sure I'm doing the /right thing/. I worry about ethics and morality more on a given day than the vast, vast majority of humans who have (who will EVER) live have in their entire lives. I worry, I get anxious, I stress, I drive myself /fucking batty/. Seriously.

And then I cackle like a methed up hooligan and start throwing rocks at cars because by fucking god if I don't do something stupid I'll be this nosy self-absorbed cunt over here, telling other people about my ethical conclusions and leaning on them to DO THE RIGHT THING OR ELSE THEY'RE FUCKING AWFUL. That shit? That's just another part of Them. That's the part of Them that They've automated, put in gear. The part They normally don't need to say out loud because pompous fuckmissiles will do it for Them and They can avoid direct blame. It's the part beaten into the heads of kids who do not, can not know any better -- not so they'll learn now but so they'll fall in with the jackboots when the Great Headstomp comes around.

Mithridates, you have missed the entire point of Discordia. Discordia has no room for people who can't dress up for the disco (yeah, the dead one) and no room for people who can't laugh themselves bloodshot and shitting themselves over all this fucking INJUSTICE. You have become the very Greyface the Principia Discordia warned about. There's a traditional response to it, but I just woke up and haven't really slept enough and you really just are not worth it. It's easier to give you a reply in as close to your language as I can manage and hope, potentially, you get the sudden urge to fuck off -- or maybe to laugh a little before you become one of Them.

Thank you for articulating your perspective
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 04, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
:lulz:

I'm still waiting to hear all about this theory of mind, among other things. Or should I just assume you're terminally dull?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

Yes, and the relevance is what dear thrush?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
Ignoring the backed up septic tank pretending to be a sentient being for the time being:

Quote from: Xaz on May 04, 2017, 11:08:55 AM
This echoes an interesting point someone mentioned recently - the PD itself was heavy on the Funny but the BIP was more on the serious side.

As horror increases is it important (or possible) for mirth to increase proportionally or does mirth fall as horror rises?

Is there actually more horror now than in the 70s? I don't know - I wasn't around back then.

As Junkenstein said, they are constantly in proportion to each other. I'd say the horror is the greater of the two at any given time, because the funny often (especially in the past) is itself horrible as the baseline. (For instance: consider that a popular "gag gift" of the 1900s or thereabouts was a little box with a spring loaded button that concealed a rusty needle.)

But as the horror rises so must the mirth, because there is a related equation which is "T=horrorseriousness", where T is the tendency to lose your mind/sense of proportion in some fashion. If you can't laugh AND it's all awful, you are at risk.

So for a necessarily sane mind it's something like, "horror=mirth+c" where c is the constant value of human shitheadedness.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 04, 2017, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
As horror increases, mirth increases with it. It's a pretty constant thing.

Proof:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/jeff-sessions-woman-guilty-laughing-year-jail-sentence-code-pink-protester-a7716456.html

Dammit, you stole my thunder.

I was gonna post the link with something like, "Laughter must really be a threatening thing, if people are going to jail for it."

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 04, 2017, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
Do you have some sort of ethical stance against making with the funny?

Ironic question of the day? :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 04, 2017, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 04, 2017, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 11:30:51 AM
As horror increases, mirth increases with it. It's a pretty constant thing.

Proof:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/jeff-sessions-woman-guilty-laughing-year-jail-sentence-code-pink-protester-a7716456.html

Dammit, you stole my thunder.

I was gonna post the link with something like, "Laughter must really be a threatening thing, if people are going to jail for it."

That quote adds a different perspective to the discussion for me so thanks.

Quote from: 00.dusk on May 04, 2017, 01:43:33 PM

As Junkenstein said, they are constantly in proportion to each other. I'd say the horror is the greater of the two at any given time, because the funny often (especially in the past) is itself horrible as the baseline. (For instance: consider that a popular "gag gift" of the 1900s or thereabouts was a little box with a spring loaded button that concealed a rusty needle.)


Likewise for the above.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 04, 2017, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
:lulz:

I'm still waiting to hear all about this theory of mind, among other things. Or should I just assume you're terminally dull?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 04, 2017, 04:48:18 PM
Why did this thread turn into a dick-waving wankfest of who-is-funnier-than-thou?

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png)

Shut the fuck up, seriously. Quit with the "Well actually" and the "I'm so fucking edgy and clever" stupidity. Or don't, it's not like it's my problem, but FUCK. I used to have fun here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 04, 2017, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 09:10:58 AM
:lulz:

I'm still waiting to hear all about this theory of mind, among other things. Or should I just assume you're terminally dull?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

I'm still waiting to hear the relevance of this. I'm pretty sure there isn't any.

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 04, 2017, 04:48:18 PM
Why did this thread turn into a dick-waving wankfest of who-is-funnier-than-thou?

(http://imgur.com/Ek6jgeF)

Shut the fuck up, seriously. Quit with the "Well actually" and the "I'm so fucking edgy and clever" stupidity. Or don't, it's not like it's my problem, but FUCK. I used to have fun here.

Meh, I was bored and Thrush here painted a target on himself. What can I say, I'm weak sometimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on May 04, 2017, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 03, 2017, 11:44:44 PM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
I don't think you get that the only thing that laughter gets you is to be put in the category of non-factor along with the audience of colbert, noah, the British nerd and the rest. You've become the laugh track of the big bang theory.

Dear fellow, I'm not sure you're able to understand quite how wrong you are.

Laughing a lung up at something is a holy rite(tm pending) and you're going to remain incomplete until you learn it.

While Nero fiddled, The ancient order of HA HA was born. We Laughed at the plagues. We laughed at Napoleon. And again at Napoleon. And again at Napoleon. We laugh every time someone marches at Moscow in the winter. What can we say beyond certain hats are amusing? We Laugh at the 3 Stooges, Auschwitz and the continuing decisions to throw nuclear bombs around for testing purposes. We Laugh at Tommy Cooper's last show. We Laugh at the ways of Clinton Clifford and Little Larry. We Laugh at corruption and watch to see who isn't laughing because that's where the bribes went. We laugh at how much asbestos is in your house and workplace right now. We laugh at radioactive clocks which are still more common than you may think. The constant appearance of HA HA ONLY SERIOUS is everywhere if you know where to look. Just look at anything, you'll find it.

Sitting there with your straight face hanging out may work for you. If dying of a heart attack at 30-odd is your goal. By all means let these things be VERY SERIOUS for you. That's not an entirely bad thing but by doing so you give them a level of importance they quite frankly don't deserve.

Power can suffer practically anything apart from people's laughter. Do you think idiot hates the media because it takes him seriously? The cretin hates SNL because people laugh at a caricature of him. It undermines his very sense of self as a WEALTHY IMPORTANT PERSON. It kicks his inner child and reminds them that they were once a small screaming human with no control over his bowels. And he's close to the other end of the scale now so that's a serious worry for him. One of the last posts was specifically about prosecuting someone FOR laughing. That alone should give you an understanding of how much power hates HA HA.

The world is very large and complex. I can affect and change a relatively tiny part of it. Even with a couple of lottery wins tomorrow, I would still only be able to change a tiny fraction of it. But yet with modern technology, I can know about vast parts of it. And I'll be FUCKED BLUE if you're telling me not to laugh at it.

Because you've got to laugh at all of it. Dictators with toupees and crazy ideas are fucking hilarious. People acting in vast numbers against their own best interests is downright hysterical. The determination of hordes of idiots wanting to be the boot that stamps on others is a god-damn riot. The only reaction these things deserve is a solid HA HA directly to the face.

So please, take your humourless arse outside and laugh in somethings face. It's liberating, if you have the balls to do so. Or you can sit there and fret about how very serious and sad it all is and try and work out what to do. Here's the thing though, one of us will be having a fucking good time.

Probably me, because I'll be laughing sputum and spittle into your goddamn face. And then I'll laugh at your reaction too for good measure.


TL;DR - Shove your big bang theory up your arse. Sideways. With gusto.

Few pages back, so god knows what shit show I'm wandering into (my guess, a big one?), but I really like this. I don't see HA HA as complacency or acceptance. There are and will be many unfunny things happening. But HA HA has gotten me through much more than which politician (or group thereof) is destroying the world . What else are you gonna do? Curl up and cry? I say laugh.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on May 04, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 04, 2017, 06:20:26 AM
Quote from: MithridatesXXIII on May 03, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
I guess you could say I do have an ethical problem if this is the shit you find humorous. That's fear induced laughter. Violence seems way more appropriate.

I just want to point out that FUCK YOU for telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't find humor in.

Seriously, go choke on a Buick.

And also, this
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
Hey, thanks.

I feel warm now. It may be because I've shat myself but I'm not checking until the feeling goes away.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 06:33:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39798989

QuotePresident Donald Trump has signed an executive order to ease a ban on political endorsements by churches and religious groups.
The order loosens a provision of the tax code which prohibits religious organisations from directly supporting or opposing political candidates.
Mr Trump often complained about the rule as a candidate. Repealing it would require action in Congress.

The next president is going to be sponsored by Scientology. I guarantee it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 04, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
Paging the Church of Satan....
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 05, 2017, 01:58:20 AM
I see we have another hero of the day developing, here.

:bacon: :hosrie: :bacon:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 05, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 06:33:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39798989

QuotePresident Donald Trump has signed an executive order to ease a ban on political endorsements by churches and religious groups.
The order loosens a provision of the tax code which prohibits religious organisations from directly supporting or opposing political candidates.
Mr Trump often complained about the rule as a candidate. Repealing it would require action in Congress.

The next president is going to be sponsored by Scientology. I guarantee it.

Do you think that would be better or worse than the one we have now?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 05, 2017, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 05, 2017, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 04, 2017, 06:33:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39798989

QuotePresident Donald Trump has signed an executive order to ease a ban on political endorsements by churches and religious groups.
The order loosens a provision of the tax code which prohibits religious organisations from directly supporting or opposing political candidates.
Mr Trump often complained about the rule as a candidate. Repealing it would require action in Congress.

The next president is going to be sponsored by Scientology. I guarantee it.

Do you think that would be better or worse than the one we have now?

Ask yourself, how do I feel about the separation of church and state? Because that's what's going away here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 06, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
APT28, aka "Fancy Bear", have been identified by two cybersecurity agencies as being behind the hack of the emails of Macron.

Fancy Bear, as you recall, also hacked the DNC and John Podesta's emails.  Their timing shows a certain amount of cleverness - French news agencies are banned on reporting in the election in the final 48 hours before a vote, and the emails were leaked just before that deadline.  In short, everyone can read the emails, and the Macron campaign cannot respond.

We should of course remember that Trump has endorsed Marine Le Pen.  That one of Trump's top advisers was a fundraiser for Le Pen, that they held a strategy meeting in the Trump Towers earlier this year.  That the FN in France are heavily backed by Russian banks, and that Marine Le Pen visited Putin a couple of months ago.  That Le Pen promises to take France out of both the EU and NATO if she wins.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2017, 07:43:48 PM
Le Pen defeated in France.  :banana:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on May 07, 2017, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2017, 07:43:48 PM
Le Pen defeated in France.  :banana:

Phew, thank god for that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 07, 2017, 08:41:12 PM
It's good news, but we still have elections in Germany and the UK to go.

UK will be interesting, as Russia doesn't really have an ally in the UK with any real political influence.  The closest would be Corbyn, and while I consider him a little naive on foreign policy issues, I also tend to think he's actually putting out his position in good faith and so would react negatively to Russian aggression abroad and attempts at political manipulation...unlike Le Pen or UKIP. (FWIW, I consider May even more naive than Corbyn on foreign policy, and her position on Russia is even less clear, but the larger Tory Party is generally sceptical of Russian actions)

And in Germany, the AfD needs keeping an eye on.  In fact, in Germany, be prepared for more instances of "alleged" Islamic terrorism.  We've already seen two attempted false flag terrorist attacks last month, one for profit and one by a right-wing extremist, and both with ties to the military.  The German far-right is becoming increasingly volatile and violent, and the armed forces have been allowing Neo-Nazi cells to operate within their branches with relative impunity.  Germany could get very messy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 07, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
All that said, watching the alt-right go on suicide watch the past few hours has been intensely satisfying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 08, 2017, 06:44:09 PM
If Germany falls to neo-Nazis, I'm pretty sure there's no possible hope for the rest of us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2017, 11:02:32 PM
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history" - some dead German dude.

Unfortunately, the processes which give rise to fascism are just as prevalent in Germany as elsewhere, and some elements of the German state's legal anti-Nazism, along with Nazism being tied so strongly to German nationalism and history (ie; before Germany was invaded by the Soviets/subjugated by the Americans) give it a perverse appeal - it's countercultural and cool because the state has banned it. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 09, 2017, 01:59:23 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2017, 07:43:48 PM
Le Pen defeated in France.  :banana:

Vive la France! Vive la France!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 09, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/09/james-comey-fbi-fired-donald-trump

:lulz:

Quote"President Idiot acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39866170

QuoteThe surprise move comes after it emerged Mr Comey gave inaccurate information about Hillary Clinton's emails to Congress last week.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 10, 2017, 08:40:31 AM
Firing came a few hours after grand jury subpoenas were issued for associates of Michael Flynn in regards to the ongoing Russia investigation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 10, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
BTW, McMaster, the National Security Advisor who actually knows about national security, is reportedly also on the down and out with the President.  Lots of clashing with Trump and with Bannon, the latter twisting the knife as hard as he can in revenge for his dismissal from the NSC.  McMasters wants to see an escalation in Afghanistan (where things are actually bad, if you pay attention beyond the MOAB - the Taliban hold about 1/3rd of the country, the government is corrupt, the ANA are useless and the few professional soldiers the Afghans have are being burnt out from having to do everything, and Russia is supporting the Taliban).

I suspect McMaster is also going to get canned in the coming weeks.  If he is, then you know something is seriously wrong at the White House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 10, 2017, 09:53:39 AM
Has idiot said he has confidence in him? That seems to be the death note.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 10, 2017, 09:55:41 AM
Ask and ye shall recieve: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/spicer-expresses-confidence-mcmaster

Quote"He values his counsel," he continued. "He continues to be extremely pleased with his pick and his performance as national security adviser. He has the utmost confidence in him."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 10, 2017, 01:27:06 PM
 :lulz:

I'm starting to think that half of these decisions are done just to make spicer look even stupider than he is.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2017, 03:15:08 AM
The other thing to watch in Afghanistan will be how hard the US goes after ISIS in comparison with the Taliban.  It's all but taken for granted now that the Taliban are being supported by Russia (don't tell the brave alt-righters that, they will have a meltdown upon hearing Putin supports evil Islamists), which raises the ugly spectre of a proxy war in Afghanistan.

If Russia and the USA do not have aligned foreign policies, that is.

You'll note the meeting at the White House today did not allow the US press to be present.  This was by Putin's request.  I wonder what Lavrov and Trump discussed...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on May 15, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
So here's a cute and compact PSA delightfully linking Agent Orange with Dunning-Kruger -

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/05/14/stephen-fry-perfectly-summed-up-why-donald-trump-is-a-problem/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2017, 11:29:24 PM
Trump gave codenamed intel to Russia.  Let me repeat.

Trump.

Gave codenamed intel.

From another ally

Who didn't consent to its sharing.

Potentially exposing both its source and methods.

To Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.871e5adf61b9&tid=a_inl
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 15, 2017, 11:40:14 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/750648675186147328
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on May 16, 2017, 12:38:40 AM
That forces me to laugh loudly at anyone who says Trump-Russia collusion even "maybe isn't" a thing.

If I, for example, were to leak such information, the nicest thing I could hope for would be two in the back of the head someplace dark and far from civilization.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 12:48:26 AM
If that intel came from who I think it did, their wrath is going to be legendary.

Meanwhile, McMasters is denying something the story never reported, while not refuting the allegations in the story.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on May 16, 2017, 05:14:12 AM
I know this shit is going to stop being funny at some point. Until then, I am yukking it up as hard as I possibly can.

Maybe I should laugh into some of those aluminized mylar long-term storage bags and put them aside to get me through the tough times ahead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 16, 2017, 06:26:47 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 16, 2017, 05:14:12 AM
I know this shit is going to stop being funny at some point. Until then, I am yukking it up as hard as I possibly can.

Maybe I should laugh into some of those aluminized mylar long-term storage bags and put them aside to get me through the tough times ahead.

You're right. At some point, it's going to stop being funny. After that, it's going to be hilarious and we'll all be laughing so hard we won't be able to breathe. Which is probably a good thing because it might buy us a few extra seconds of life, considering the poison gas.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 08:59:33 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 12:48:26 AM
If that intel came from who I think it did, their wrath is going to be legendary.

Meanwhile, McMasters is denying something the story never reported, while not refuting the allegations in the story.

Speculation as to source country? Assuming middle eastern but European also possible. Just trying to work out if we're talking old or new testament wrath.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
 :lulz: Interesting choice of wording.

Well, if it helps, most Middle Eastern intelligence agencies are pants on heads retarded.  If it doesn't involve funneling arms and cash to terrorist groups, or pulling some guy's fingernails out until he confesses to a crime he didn't commit, they're just not up to par.  They have the people, the language skills, the cultural quirks all down...but they either don't have the training, or they have a politicised bureaucracy over them which prevents them from doing good intelligence work.

However, I think it's one of two countries.  Both said countries have generally quite good humint in the Middle East, a track record of intelligence-led operations against terrorist groups and a very close working relationship with America in intelligence and military matters.  Both have also expressed concern in the recent past that intelligence given to the Donald could end up in Russian hands.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 10:26:45 AM
Seemed appropriate. He's either looking at pillars of salt or his favorite kid on the cross.

Anyway, ruling out mid east agencies, the countries left on my list have all said negative things regarding idiot/Russia. Hells, the only country that hasn't is Russia. NATO member?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 10:37:19 AM
One is, one isn't.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 10:41:10 AM
Why do I have a horrible feeling that one is the UK?

I'm thinking the other doesn't have a great record with amnesty international and human rights in general?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 10:51:12 AM
You'd be right on both counts.

I'm waiting to see how much howling and wailing occurs via the Telegraph and Times before I can call the first.  If it's the 2nd...well, I'm sure they will make their displeasure known.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 16, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 12:48:26 AM
Meanwhile, McMasters is denying something the story never reported, while not refuting the allegations in the story.

This is the part that amuses me.  It's the equivalent of, "Jim, did you eat that cookie?" "I can categorically deny that I ever ate a hamburger at 11:35 on a Tuesday."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 16, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 08:59:33 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 12:48:26 AM
If that intel came from who I think it did, their wrath is going to be legendary.

Meanwhile, McMasters is denying something the story never reported, while not refuting the allegations in the story.

Speculation as to source country? Assuming middle eastern but European also possible. Just trying to work out if we're talking old or new testament wrath.

It's Israel.

I have sources* close to the White House confirming this.




*I'm guessing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:05:31 PM
Newsweek isn't saying it's Israel, they're just strongly implying (http://www.newsweek.com/us-officials-warned-israel-not-share-sensitive-intel-trump-609782) it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 16, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:05:31 PM
Newsweek isn't saying it's Israel, they're just strongly implying (http://www.newsweek.com/us-officials-warned-israel-not-share-sensitive-intel-trump-609782) it.

Well, we're all one big happy international community now, anyway. I'm sure Mossad won't mind sharesies with Comrade Pootypoot.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:23:23 PM
(https://i.redd.it/u6j2qmlusrxy.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on May 16, 2017, 06:45:26 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 16, 2017, 06:52:11 PM
NYT it explicitly saying it's Israel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0


I can quote if it's behind a paywall.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:57:44 PM
Oh wow.  Donnie, you just fucked yourself. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 06:57:55 PM
That picture looks like farage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:57:44 PM
Oh wow.  Donnie, you just fucked yourself.

It's about the only thing he can do competently.

Guess the plan for peace between Israel/Palestine is just to unite them in hatred against him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2017, 06:57:44 PM
Oh wow.  Donnie, you just fucked yourself.

It's about the only thing he can do competently.

Guess the plan for peace between Israel/Palestine is just to unite them in hatred against him.

Err...
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/16/middleeast/western-wall-us-aide-comment/index.html

Quote(CNN)Less than a week before US President Donald Trump arrives in Israel, the White House has been forced on to the defensive over reported comments by an American diplomat describing the Western Wall in Jerusalem's Old City -- one of Judaism's holiest sites -- as being in the West Bank.

The Israeli Prime Minister's office said it was shocked by the comments and said it had asked the United States to explain what was meant by them.

QuoteA White House spokesman later told CNN: "These comments were not authorized by the White House. They do not reflect the US position, and certainly not the President's position."
The US embassy in Israel told CNN it had no comment to make.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 16, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 06:57:55 PM
That picture looks like farage.

It is a picture of Farage, dumbass, they've just photoshopped him into the whitehouse :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 16, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 06:57:55 PM
That picture looks like farage.

It is a picture of Farage, dumbass, they've just photoshopped him into the whitehouse :lulz:
:lulz:
I am no longer able to distinguish between the two.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 16, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
At this point with the chaos I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was to turn out to be pro Palestine
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2017, 08:28:01 PM
Tomorrow, he might be. The day after that... who can even bother to guess? There's more consistency in a bowl of shitty soup.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 16, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
And, apparently, Comey has begun releasing memos describing every conversation he had with Trump. The first one alleges that Trump directly asked him to end the FBI's investigation of Flynn. The White House denies it all (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/16/trump-james-comey-memo-michael-flynn-fbi-white-house-denial?CMP=twt_gu), of course. More "Fake News!", I suppose. But when that excuse doesn't work, tomorrow Trump will be all over Twitter telling us how he has "absolute right" to do whatever he wants because look at how much red is on that electoral map.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on May 16, 2017, 11:37:16 PM
...that dude that everyone's pissed off at for being too honest too often...he's full of shit here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2017, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 16, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
And, apparently, Comey has begun releasing memos describing every conversation he had with Trump. The first one alleges that Trump directly asked him to end the FBI's investigation of Flynn.

Which, anyone who knew anything about Comey could tell you was what he was doing.  He's got a reputation at the DoJ for putting everything into memos, probably ones with unusual names or wording so that he can FOIA request them very quickly if need be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
Reports coming in along the lines of "Putin ready to release recordings of Idiot/Lavrov conversations".

:lulz:

In so many ways, this is going to be hysterical.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/russia-us-trump-lavrov-intel/index.html

Quote(CNN)Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that Russia is ready to provide US Congress with a transcript of the talks between President Donald Trump and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

Speaking at a press conference, Putin said the transcript could be provided "if the US administration finds it appropriate."

Regardless of the content, regardless of whether it has been doctored to fuck or not, there is no way this ends well for idiot.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 01:18:48 PM
I can't stop laughing at the heaps of potential implications here as they all make idiot look terrible.

If he knew he was being recorded - bad. Did not know he was being recorded? - Bad.
Russians able to even take recording equipment into meeting? - Bad.

The further implication that if this conversation was recorded, what else has been? - Bad.


I'm formally taking bets on how long idiot has left in office. When Putin's "defending" you like this you may as well shoot yourself. It's quicker than polonium.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2017, 01:25:19 PM
http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-17-2017/

Quote
Ex-Mossad chief: We need to punish the US for Trump intel leak
Danny Yatom says Israel needs to hold back on sharing intelligence with the Americans so as not to endanger sources
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 17, 2017, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 01:18:48 PM
I can't stop laughing at the heaps of potential implications here as they all make idiot look terrible.

If he knew he was being recorded - bad. Did not know he was being recorded? - Bad.
Russians able to even take recording equipment into meeting? - Bad.

The further implication that if this conversation was recorded, what else has been? - Bad.


I'm formally taking bets on how long idiot has left in office. When Putin's "defending" you like this you may as well shoot yourself. It's quicker than polonium.

A used heroin needle (with cap!) On him suffering either a real or fake illness before the end of the year that puts his big, fat intel leaking bourgeoisie burger-grinder out of commission. If it's faked by him he's suffering from narcissistic depression as he finally has all the cognitive dissonance come home and realizes that he's not so great. If not... polonium sends the wrong message. He'll probably just have a nice heart-attack or crippling stroke. It might not even be anybody else's fault. He's over 70 with a high BMI and probably blood pressure to match. All he has to do is keep double scooping on ice cream and getting shouting mad. Then it's Pence at the bat... and we're fucked.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
The Russian government has clarified it meant a transcript.

Which is precisely as worthless as it sounds.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 17, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
The Russian government has clarified it meant a transcript.

Which is precisely as worthless as it sounds.

Makes more sense than Vlad shooting the golden goose. Operation - destabilise the US - is a lot harder with a non-senile person in the driving seat :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
The Russian government has clarified it meant a transcript.

Which is precisely as worthless as it sounds.

Implications still hilarious. The US can't say yes or no without fallout and the question still stands about accuracy and content. Transcripts generally done from recordings too so there's still questions about devices. Unless the line is that one of the diplomats took extensive notes.

Fun and games ahoy, guaranteed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2017, 05:40:58 PM
It's also amusing to see the Kekites and bots on social media mobilizing to try and counter the Comey memo story. Sadly for them, all they can do is drag up tired old accusations against Hillary ("Seth Rich was murdered for some reason!" and "Emails!" again). I watched a couple of threads trying to make Michelle Obama's school lunch program somehow pertinent to the conversation. But something seems to have cracked yesterday, and despite the obvious attempt to flood the twitterverse with that nonsense, it isn't sticking. I'm not optimistic enough to think that's going to to hold true indefinitely now, but they're having PR issues they haven't had before. The general public sense appears to be that whatever Hillary is or isn't, that's old news and has no real bearing anymore on the discussion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 06:07:42 PM
This is the best example of cognitive disassociation to be seen in our time. "Patriots" slowly realising they voted for a "traitor" So the only monkey option kicks in - Double down. This is just one sacking, it's a total death knell because it just shows how much it will escalate with each coming sacking. Idiot won't be able to control himself for long and I'll bet anything they've got evidence out the arse.

D.C considered a one party consent state, so its possible anyone could have recorded anyone at anytime too. Bet spicer's got some crackers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 07:14:32 PM
At this point, either the system of checks and balances works as it should and the Trump regime crumbles, or it doesn't work and we slide softly into a dictatorship.

(https://i.imgflip.com/18x1tr.jpg?a415152)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2017, 07:28:35 PM
He has always used the same designer as gadaffi loved.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 07:51:24 PM
Right? Flamboyantly rich, elected on the basis that he represents a change from the old guard of politics, shady dealings accompany his electoral win, and now he's firing people who could potentially hold him accountable. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
Relevant: https://www.forbes.com/sites/melikkaylan/2014/07/31/the-new-wave-of-elected-dictatorships-around-the-world/#635d6ac14b89

Also https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2013/02/05/how-dictators-come-to-power-in-a-democracy/2/#1ebe6f8b67a5
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 17, 2017, 08:08:20 PM
Lets not be facetious now, all jokes aside I think we can all agree that gadaffi would have made a better president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 18, 2017, 11:34:21 AM
Point well made.

Idiot claiming "no political figure ever treated worse, ever, really ever, I'm super serial".

I'm sure ghandi, Mandela, king etc. Etc. Are all weeping beyond the grave for him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 18, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
The biggest question with Trump is how much of it is corruption and how much is just stupidity. I know a lot of you don't believe he could really be that stupid but personally that's been my impression of him from the beginning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 18, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 18, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
The biggest question with Trump is how much of it is corruption and how much is just stupidity. I know a lot of you don't believe he could really be that stupid but personally that's been my impression of him from the beginning.

It's difficult to imagine that a president could be as stupid as this man apparently is, but I have to admit my hesitation to believe it is based more on some assumption that you have to be smart to make it that far than on any observable evidence. He does somehow manage to defy the laws of political physics, but that is the result of the artery of hatred he's tapped into more than his own doing. Whether or not he is "stupid" because he is actually too unintelligent to understand things, or because he's never exercised any mental muscle other than "throw money at it until it goes away", I don't know. He obviously lacks even a basic understanding of civics, history, and even economic theory beyond buzzwords, and the result is the same either way.

As for corruption, I don't think Trump sees "corruption" as a thing that even exists. In his mind, if he can make a move and get away with it, it's fair game. He seems to be completely amoral, absolutely untethered to other human beings no matter how close they are. It's very likely deep inside mental illness or sociopathy territory, to a point where he might not be "corrupt", only because he is incapable of conceiving of any such concept. The people around him, however, are obviously corrupt. Whether it is by Russians or just money and power is unclear and really not the question.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 18, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Yeah, I see a dumbfuck in a prominent position and it's generally either one of two things - he's either playing the retard in which case he's being dishonest or he really is as dumb as he appears in which case someone smart is totally pulling his strings. I'm not saying Putin cos I honestly have no f'kin idea but if not him them someone like him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 18, 2017, 11:37:50 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 18, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Yeah, I see a dumbfuck in a prominent position and it's generally either one of two things - he's either playing the retard in which case he's being dishonest or he really is as dumb as he appears in which case someone smart is totally pulling his strings. I'm not saying Putin cos I honestly have no f'kin idea but if not him them someone like him.

Could be multiple people pulling the strings. His election was apparently the result of at least two unrelated conspiracies (the Russian email hacks and the Pied Piper conspiracy, though admittedly the later thought they were setting him up to fail. There were also a bunch of news organizations printing biased and outright fake news tp try to sway the electorate in his favor). I think that the best hope at this point is that all the people pulling his strings tangle each other up (or alternately for him to reach the point where he's blowing the job off completely instead of just taking too many golfing vacations; at that critical point there is an abrupt transition from dangerous incompetence to the ideal leader of eastern mysticism that rules well by doing nothing)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on May 19, 2017, 02:57:54 AM
 Washington Post (or, more recently, something also on NyT re: Dura-Trumps)
QuotePresident Trump reportedly eschews exercise because he believes it drains the body's "finite" energy resources, but experts say this argument is flawed because the human body actually becomes stronger with exercise.

I got this one. See, his Chinese comrades probably tried to splain him the concept of Yin, the female principle, which TCM considers finite & non-renewable. That Trump then uniquely informed his understanding with only the concept of Yin should come as no surprise. Trump clearly has negligible Yang.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 19, 2017, 07:48:53 AM
On the plus side, dude is a walking heart attack. Be funny as fuck if he was the first president to assassinate himself walking too hard on the golf course  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on May 19, 2017, 08:52:27 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 19, 2017, 07:48:53 AM
On the plus side, dude is a walking heart attack. Be funny as fuck if he was the first president to assassinate himself walking too hard on the golf course  :lulz:

Hey if cherries and milk can take out one shit-show of a president... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Taylor#Death)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2017, 03:41:37 AM
So, today's roundup:

Someone whose named rhymes with Kared Jushner is being investigated by the FBI for their links to the ever-expanding Russia scandal.

The Special Counsel's team has been looking into the impeachment process "for research purposes".

The Israeli agent who was burned by Trump was not only an asset on ISIS, but also on Hezbollah.  Israeli intelligence is beyond outraged at this. 

And Russian officials bragged that they could use Michael Flynn to influence Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 20, 2017, 03:47:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 20, 2017, 03:41:37 AM
So, today's roundup:

Someone whose named rhymes with Kared Jushner is being investigated by the FBI for their links to the ever-expanding Russia scandal.

The Special Counsel's team has been looking into the impeachment process "for research purposes".

The Israeli agent who was burned by Trump was not only an asset on ISIS, but also on Hezbollah.  Israeli intelligence is beyond outraged at this. 

And Russian officials bragged that they could use Michael Flynn to influence Trump.

Also I just saw another one of those "someone close to Comey" things, saying Comey is now convinced Trump was intentionally trying to sway him on the Russia investigation. Maybe a twig, but on the fire it goes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2017, 03:54:47 AM
I was just reading a good article on that: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-james-comey-told-me-about-donald-trump

QuoteComey never told me the details of the dinner meeting; I don't think I even knew that there had been a meeting over dinner until I learned it from the Times story. But he did tell me in general terms that early on, Trump had "asked for loyalty" and that Comey had promised him only honesty. He also told me that Trump was perceptibly uncomfortable with this answer. And he said that ever since, the President had been trying to be chummy in a fashion that Comey felt was designed to absorb him into Trump's world—to make him part of the team. Comey was deeply uncomfortable with these episodes. He told me that Trump sometimes talked to him a fashion designed to implicate him in Trump's way of thinking. While I was not sure quite what this meant, it clearly disquieted Comey. He felt that these conversations were efforts to probe how resistant he would be to becoming a loyalist. In light of the dramatic dinner meeting and the Flynn request, it's easy to see why they would be upsetting and feel like attempts at pressure.

On March 27, he described one incident in particular that had bothered him. Comey was about to get on a helicopter when his phone rang. It was the White House saying that the President wanted to speak with him. Figuring there must be something urgent going on, he delayed his flight to take the call. To his surprise, the President just wanted to chitchat. He was trying to be social, Comey related; there was no agenda, much less an urgent one. Notably, since the President has claimed that Comey told him in two phone conversations that he was not under investigation, Comey said nothing to me about the subject coming up in this call. Indeed, he regarded the call as weird for how substanceless it was. What bothered Comey was twofold—the fact that the conversation happened at all (why was Trump calling him to exchange pleasantries?) and the fact that there was an undercurrent of Trump's trying to get him to kiss the ring.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 20, 2017, 04:13:41 AM
Nothing to hide...

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN18F2KK

QuoteThe Trump administration is exploring whether it can use an obscure ethics rule to undermine the special counsel investigation into ties between President Donald Trump's campaign team and Russia, two people familiar with White House thinking said on Friday.

Trump has said that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's hiring of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to lead the investigation "hurts our country terribly."

Within hours of Mueller's appointment on Wednesday, the White House began reviewing the Code of Federal Regulations, which restricts newly hired government lawyers from investigating their prior law firm's clients for one year after their hiring, the sources said.

An executive order signed by Trump in January extended that period to two years.

Mueller's former law firm, WilmerHale, represents Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who met with a Russian bank executive in December, and the president's former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who is a subject of a federal investigation.

Legal experts said the ethics rule can be waived by the Justice Department, which appointed Mueller. He did not represent Kushner or Manafort directly at his former law firm.

If the department did not grant a waiver, Mueller would be barred from investigating Kushner or Manafort, and this could greatly diminish the scope of the probe, experts said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 20, 2017, 04:41:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 20, 2017, 03:54:47 AM
I was just reading a good article on that: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-james-comey-told-me-about-donald-trump

This disturbs me, not just because of the content and character of this kind of inappropriate contact, but because it still technically comes down to how Comey "felt" about it. There may be nothing overtly criminal in it. It's unusual, even inappropriate ethically, but not illegal. And even if it was illegal, there's a whole ocean full of ways for Trump loyalists to call it hearsay and speculation. Hopefully when Comey testifies later this/next month, or at least in private conversations with Mueller's investigation, he can bring something more than "he made me feel dirty". But Comey at least seems to be a person who is smart enough not to get himself into the situation he's in now with nothing to back himself up.

Quote from: Cain on May 20, 2017, 04:13:41 AM
Nothing to hide...

The fact that this is already public knowledge is great, but I hope Rosenstein can come through on this waiver. Given Mueller's own history in the DOJ/FBI, I don't doubt his personal honesty or thoroughness just because he worked for a firm that represented Trump (unlike Lieberman who owns a firm that represents Trump and is apparently about to be nominated for the FBI directorship). But my paranoid half worries he was the one appointed as Special Counsel precisely because of this rule, in order to insulate Trump and his closest circle from the investigation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 22, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
So, this was a thing today:

(https://i.imgur.com/mzYFu1Y.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 22, 2017, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 22, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
So, this was a thing today:

(https://i.imgur.com/mzYFu1Y.png)

What's the problem? He told reporters, not the Russians. Sheesh.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 22, 2017, 07:56:37 PM
The Israelis must just be praying for him to drop dead right about now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 22, 2017, 08:07:48 PM
I probably shouldn't be laughing as hard as I am at this.


Eh, who am I kidding?


:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 23, 2017, 02:14:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 22, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
So, this was a thing today:

(https://i.imgur.com/mzYFu1Y.png)

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 23, 2017, 02:47:46 AM
I liked the look on Netanyahu's face during their little press statement. He had the same exasperated look that a kindergarten teacher has when she's trying to corral a particularly dense kid back into the lunch line.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 23, 2017, 09:43:06 PM
Haha. Hahahahaha.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.56f8fb201da2
QuotePresident Trump asked two of the nation's top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government, according to current and former officials.

Trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election.

Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private communications with the president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 23, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
Next the head of the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms bureau will come forward saying Trump tried to order a hit on Comey
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 23, 2017, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 23, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
Next the head of the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms bureau will come forward saying Trump tried to order a hit on Comey

Nah, DEA.

"You guys know those cartel guys, right? I need some bad hombres"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2017, 01:36:09 AM
Confirmed by the WaPo that Kushner was holding secret talks with the Russian ambassador, Kislyak, to set up a private backchannel in December.

This means that Kushner, Flynn and Erik Prince were all having secret meetings with Russian officials to create a secret backchannel that circumvented US national security.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 27, 2017, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 01:36:09 AM
Confirmed by the WaPo that Kushner was holding secret talks with the Russian ambassador, Kislyak, to set up a private backchannel in December.

This means that Kushner, Flynn and Erik Prince were all having secret meetings with Russian officials to create a secret backchannel that circumvented US national security.

I am absolutely unsurprised.

Nothing will happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 27, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
I don't know...I'm at least 90% sure Kushner did something illegal.  He's a spoiled little rich boy who's never been told no and made his entire career on the back of his father's fortune.  I know the type.  He's done something, and Bannon hates his guts.  Bannon will squeal to the FBI, and the FBI will nail his balls to a wall the first chance they get.

I suspect the only reason something hasn't already happened is the suspicion that Kushner was the middle-man for Trump.  It makes sense.  I've heard from connected reporters rumours a while back that Flynn was acting as the middle man for someone higher up in the Trump admin.  Obviously, we now know that's Kushner.  That's why the FBI didn't give Flynn immunity - they already knew what they needed, and had their eyes on a bigger prize.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 04:32:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
I don't know...I'm at least 90% sure Kushner did something illegal.  He's a spoiled little rich boy who's never been told no and made his entire career on the back of his father's fortune.  I know the type.  He's done something, and Bannon hates his guts.  Bannon will squeal to the FBI, and the FBI will nail his balls to a wall the first chance they get.

I suspect the only reason something hasn't already happened is the suspicion that Kushner was the middle-man for Trump.  It makes sense.  I've heard from connected reporters rumours a while back that Flynn was acting as the middle man for someone higher up in the Trump admin.  Obviously, we now know that's Kushner.  That's why the FBI didn't give Flynn immunity - they already knew what they needed, and had their eyes on a bigger prize.

My real fear here is that the FBI will nail Flynn, Kushner, and maybe a few other middle men, and somehow Trump will come out smelling like roses.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2017, 04:43:44 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 04:32:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
I don't know...I'm at least 90% sure Kushner did something illegal.  He's a spoiled little rich boy who's never been told no and made his entire career on the back of his father's fortune.  I know the type.  He's done something, and Bannon hates his guts.  Bannon will squeal to the FBI, and the FBI will nail his balls to a wall the first chance they get.

I suspect the only reason something hasn't already happened is the suspicion that Kushner was the middle-man for Trump.  It makes sense.  I've heard from connected reporters rumours a while back that Flynn was acting as the middle man for someone higher up in the Trump admin.  Obviously, we now know that's Kushner.  That's why the FBI didn't give Flynn immunity - they already knew what they needed, and had their eyes on a bigger prize.

My real fear here is that the FBI will nail Flynn, Kushner, and maybe a few other middle men, and somehow Trump will come out smelling like roses.

The worst case scenario is one where Trump gets impeached without first impeaching and replacing Pence.

Even then, whomever the house appointed to replace Pence would be their creature.

Trump is an assclown, but he doesn't take directions well.  Pence will do precisely what he's told, if he can have his dominionist agenda advanced in exchange.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 05:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2017, 04:43:44 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 04:32:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
I don't know...I'm at least 90% sure Kushner did something illegal.  He's a spoiled little rich boy who's never been told no and made his entire career on the back of his father's fortune.  I know the type.  He's done something, and Bannon hates his guts.  Bannon will squeal to the FBI, and the FBI will nail his balls to a wall the first chance they get.

I suspect the only reason something hasn't already happened is the suspicion that Kushner was the middle-man for Trump.  It makes sense.  I've heard from connected reporters rumours a while back that Flynn was acting as the middle man for someone higher up in the Trump admin.  Obviously, we now know that's Kushner.  That's why the FBI didn't give Flynn immunity - they already knew what they needed, and had their eyes on a bigger prize.

My real fear here is that the FBI will nail Flynn, Kushner, and maybe a few other middle men, and somehow Trump will come out smelling like roses.

The worst case scenario is one where Trump gets impeached without first impeaching and replacing Pence.

Even then, whomever the house appointed to replace Pence would be their creature.

Trump is an assclown, but he doesn't take directions well.  Pence will do precisely what he's told, if he can have his dominionist agenda advanced in exchange.

Knowing Americans, this is exactly what will happen. Somehow we'll nap Trump and kick him out, and then everyone will sit back and congratulate themselves on doing such a bang-up job of saving the republic and such, and let Pence and his gang of Objectivist Dominionists completely ruin everything.

Or this!
- Impeach/Remove Trump.
- Pence pardons Trump, appoints him VP
- Pence resigns
- Trump appoints Pence VP

Okay that's very unlikely, but I'd have to at least give them props for such a well-executed troll if they did it that way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2017, 05:35:03 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 05:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2017, 04:43:44 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 04:32:49 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2017, 02:16:39 AM
I don't know...I'm at least 90% sure Kushner did something illegal.  He's a spoiled little rich boy who's never been told no and made his entire career on the back of his father's fortune.  I know the type.  He's done something, and Bannon hates his guts.  Bannon will squeal to the FBI, and the FBI will nail his balls to a wall the first chance they get.

I suspect the only reason something hasn't already happened is the suspicion that Kushner was the middle-man for Trump.  It makes sense.  I've heard from connected reporters rumours a while back that Flynn was acting as the middle man for someone higher up in the Trump admin.  Obviously, we now know that's Kushner.  That's why the FBI didn't give Flynn immunity - they already knew what they needed, and had their eyes on a bigger prize.

My real fear here is that the FBI will nail Flynn, Kushner, and maybe a few other middle men, and somehow Trump will come out smelling like roses.

The worst case scenario is one where Trump gets impeached without first impeaching and replacing Pence.

Even then, whomever the house appointed to replace Pence would be their creature.

Trump is an assclown, but he doesn't take directions well.  Pence will do precisely what he's told, if he can have his dominionist agenda advanced in exchange.

Knowing Americans, this is exactly what will happen. Somehow we'll nap Trump and kick him out, and then everyone will sit back and congratulate themselves on doing such a bang-up job of saving the republic and such, and let Pence and his gang of Objectivist Dominionists completely ruin everything.

Or this!
- Impeach/Remove Trump.
- Pence pardons Trump, appoints him VP
- Pence resigns
- Trump appoints Pence VP

Okay that's very unlikely, but I'd have to at least give them props for such a well-executed troll if they did it that way.

They thought of that with Nixon, and his deal included "never to hold federal office again".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 28, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
I'm not convinced Pence isn't involved.  He's been better at hiding it, but Pence is either part of it, or he's so completely oblivious to what is happening that he should be impeached on those grounds anyway.

Pence headed up the transition team.  Flynn informed the transition team he was under Federal investigation for working as a lobbyist for Turkey at that time, by his own admission.  Rep Elijah Cummings also sent a letter to Pence warning him about Flynn's work for Turkey.  Pence had no problem booting out Cristie and his supporters, but left Flynn in place.

Pence also gave cover to the lie that Comey was fired on the advice of the Deputy Attorney General, despite knowing that Trump had determined Comey would be sacked before asking Rosenstein for the legal reasoning to justify it.

Pence was picked by Manafort for the VP slot.  We all know about Manafort and Ukraine/Russia.  What isn't widely reported is that Russia has significant sway in the evangelical community in recent years.  The Russian government is aggressively promoting Orthodox Christianity, and aggressively expanding its contacts with American evangelicals as "brothers in arms" against both Islam and secular liberalism.  Sounds like the kind of thing Pence might be in to.

Pence is cleverer than Trump.  But he's involved.  And he's not cleverer than the world's best funded intelligence agencies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 28, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
It also occurs to me that jailing Kushner would provide an opportunity for increased anti-semitism?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 28, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Of course.  That was the Stormfront playbook all along: "support Trump as a wedge to gain greater support for white supremacy, when everything goes wrong, blame it on Trump's poor morals, New York and Jared Kushner the Jew".

They were literally talking about this stuff the day after Trump won.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 28, 2017, 05:08:10 PM
Oh, good. Glad to see everything's going to plan.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on May 28, 2017, 08:24:15 PM
I suspect that even if Trump is impeached, even if he got into srs trouble, he's done immeasurable damage in that he's emboldened every white supremacist piece of shit in America and convinced each that they are a king.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 28, 2017, 08:49:38 PM
I think if Trump was impeached, you'd have significant civil unrest.  Nearly 40% of the country (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) still approves of him despite everything he's done to date.

How many people will immediately consider his ouster a (((globalist))) liberal conspiracy?  How many of those people have positions in state governments, the national guard, the police force, or live in big compounds in the woods?

Eventually America is going to have to lance that boil.  When that day comes, it won't be pretty.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 10:11:57 PM
Oh I don't doubt Pence is involved up to his eyeballs. But I'm not as sure about political will. If we nail Trump, the GOP will almost certainly do everything it can to limit the damage, including protecting Pence if at all possible. And I don't have much faith in Democrats to pursue such loose ends, they seem more likely to quit while they're ahead. The masses will be on edge in case of impeachment, with the Left mostly celebrating as if all their problems have been fixed and the Right probably on the verge of armed insurrection. I know the FBI will likely follow the trail to every provable conclusion, but will that be enough?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 28, 2017, 11:22:52 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 28, 2017, 10:11:57 PM
Oh I don't doubt Pence is involved up to his eyeballs. But I'm not as sure about political will. If we nail Trump, the GOP will almost certainly do everything it can to limit the damage, including protecting Pence if at all possible. And I don't have much faith in Democrats to pursue such loose ends, they seem more likely to quit while they're ahead. The masses will be on edge in case of impeachment, with the Left mostly celebrating as if all their problems have been fixed and the Right probably on the verge of armed insurrection. I know the FBI will likely follow the trail to every provable conclusion, but will that be enough?

If they nail Pence first, they can appoint their own guy, then get Trump.  The faithful will fall in line.

This isn't new, after all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 29, 2017, 12:36:42 AM
They'll get their guy no matter how it goes. If anyone is impeached, they'll be sure to paint themselves as heroes and get so much political capital they could repeal the entire Constitution without much of a hiccup.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 29, 2017, 03:49:41 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 29, 2017, 12:36:42 AM
They'll get their guy no matter how it goes. If anyone is impeached, they'll be sure to paint themselves as heroes and get so much political capital they could repeal the entire Constitution without much of a hiccup.

Why?  They can just ignore it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Chucklemaster on May 31, 2017, 10:12:39 PM
I know this is literally all anyone is talking about, but
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170531090728-trump-tweets-covfeve-exlarge-169.jpg)
also, on topic, I agree that the emboldening of jackasses is going to be a pretty big issue even once things get patched up on the political scale. The wonderful thing about the government is that it can't control the social climate (though it can try). This also means that the assholes are going to remain emboldened for some time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 01, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
UK's Farage 'person of interest' in Trump-Russia investigation: Guardian (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-farage-idUSKBN18S4YM)

Quote from: CIA Director Mike Pompeo
"One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved," the Guardian quoted one source as saying. "If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage."

"He's right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again. There's a lot of attention being paid to him."

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
UK's Farage 'person of interest' in Trump-Russia investigation: Guardian (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-farage-idUSKBN18S4YM)

Quote from: CIA Director Mike Pompeo
"One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved," the Guardian quoted one source as saying. "If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage."

"He's right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again. There's a lot of attention being paid to him."
:lulz:

Farage being extradited and rotting in a US jail would be beautiful. No end of Russian links when you look at that prick
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 01, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Farage will squeal.  He's blatantly an errand boy, and I've no doub the FBI want him to flip so they can firm up the Gufficer 2.0/Stone/Assange angle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 01, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
UK's Farage 'person of interest' in Trump-Russia investigation: Guardian (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-farage-idUSKBN18S4YM)

Quote from: CIA Director Mike Pompeo
"One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved," the Guardian quoted one source as saying. "If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage."

"He's right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again. There's a lot of attention being paid to him."

Damn, it'd be hilarious if this investigation opened up a whole rat's nest.  :lulz:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Ratking.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Garage claiming "no links to Russia, doubtful I'm involved.

So that's a big "I'm guilty as fuck" from the serial liar
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 07:43:06 PM
Minor typo, meant to say compulsive, not serial.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 01, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Garage claiming "no links to Russia, doubtful I'm involved.

So that's a big "I'm guilty as fuck" from the serial liar

Isn't the also the guy that said "Brexit will bring prosperity" or some shit?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2017, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 07:43:06 PM
Minor typo, meant to say compulsive, not serial.

I would say that both are accurate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 02, 2017, 01:37:22 AM
....and idiot repudiates the Paris accord on climate change because coal. Elon musk resigned advisory role in protest, which I suspect was always coming over something. Not a huge fan of musk but he is actually smart in some areas. And unlike idiot, actually wealthy. Which will probably dint idiots ego having him quit so expect a borderline libelous statement shortly. Musk is also one of the few people who could also have a proper pop at him legally as a private citizen. Which could end in all kinds of funny.

The thought occurs that we're really not that far removed from the economies of the 1800-1900 in actual function, just the potential stakes have risen.

When Cain said idiot was dead meat walking, I never guessed there would be quite as many angles for him to get fucked by. Ill health, bad company, bad choices, bad timing, the list is endless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 02, 2017, 01:47:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 01, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 01, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Garage claiming "no links to Russia, doubtful I'm involved.

So that's a big "I'm guilty as fuck" from the serial liar

Isn't the also the guy that said "Brexit will bring prosperity" or some shit?

Yes, along with the 350 million extra every minute for the nhs. Which is one of the reasons it's funny when everyone accuses everyone else of having magic money trees.

Government plan here at the moment seems to be:
1-have election, someone wins and a form of brexit occurs
2-roll around in shit for 2 years over a deal that can only end badly.
3-????
4-profit, apparently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 02, 2017, 03:41:13 AM
Farage was on Russia Today practically every month in 2013 and 2014.  Yes, these appearances were paid.  Yes, RT is an arm of the Russian government, no matter how much it pretends otherwise.

He's also met with ranking Russian politicians, such as deputy foreign affairs minister, Alexander Yakovenko.

UKIP's accounts are also shady.  No evidence of Russian money, but they are hiding something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 03, 2017, 05:24:42 AM
The trumpers have now convinced themselves that Trump MEANT to type "covfefe", and that it an Arabic word meaning either "I will stand up" or "In the end we win.".

:kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 03, 2017, 06:42:09 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 03, 2017, 05:24:42 AM
The trumpers have now convinced themselves that Trump MEANT to type "covfefe", and that it an Arabic word meaning either "I will stand up" or "In the end we win.".

:kingmeh:

Thanks. You made me look up the background to this, and it's probably one of the most terrifyingly stupid things I have seen take root in Kek land. Jesus absolute Christ, the stupidity and self-delusion are so much. Problematically, it doesn't matter. True or not, insane or not, it doesn't matter. So many people are in on this awful joke (this MAGA shit in general) that they may very well carry the rest of us with them regardless of how absolutely bonkers it is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:29:31 AM
Comey testimony this Thursday, 10am DC time, on CBS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 06, 2017, 08:17:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:29:31 AM
Comey testimony this Thursday, 10am DC time, on CBS.
Marking the calendar. This will be worth it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:29:31 AM
Comey testimony this Thursday, 10am DC time, on CBS.

I hope nothing happens to him before then. I have to assume he's probably one of the best-protected individuals on earth right now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 06, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2017, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:29:31 AM
Comey testimony this Thursday, 10am DC time, on CBS.

I hope nothing happens to him before then. I have to assume he's probably one of the best-protected individuals on earth right now.

Or least. One of the two.

I'd be getting taxis for a few months if I was him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 06, 2017, 08:17:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2017, 06:29:31 AM
Comey testimony this Thursday, 10am DC time, on CBS.
Marking the calendar. This will be worth it.

It should be 2pm, UK time.

So you can watch Comey, then you can watch the shitshow that is our election.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Lets see what is happening in Louise Mensch land

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/871911429040992256

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 07, 2017, 05:43:15 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Lets see what is happening in Louise Mensch land

https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/871911429040992256

:lulz:
:lulz:

This is the same lady that said the Supreme Court was notifying Trump of his impending impeachment, right? lol. It's annoying to have a second-rate InfoWars clone on "our side".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 07, 2017, 05:48:39 AM
I actually read both the Infowars article on Reality Winner and Mensch's feed.

Mensch is by far the more unhinged one.  And yes.  In addition to all of Mensch's critics being in the pay of Russia.  All of them. 

I sometimes entertain the theory that she's been fed a line of bullshit by an actual Russian spook to make the Russia inquiry look as unhinged as her...but then I remember she was always an intellectual and political lightweight.  I remember her pathetic attempts at sparring with Ian Hislop...it was actually painful to watch.  Almost as painful as her feed is now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 07, 2017, 01:46:01 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/asia/north-korea-trump-climate-change/index.html
:lulz:
QuoteIn a statement Tuesday, Pyongyang said Washington's move represented "the height of egoism and moral vacuum seeking only their own well-being, even at the cost of the entire planet."
"The selfish act of the US does not only have grave consequences for the international efforts to protect the environment, but poses great danger to other areas as well," a spokesman for the North Korean Ministry of Foreign Affairs said, according to state news agency KCNA.
KCNA regularly issues caustic missives on all aspects of US policy. In Tuesday's statement, Pyongyang also linked Washington's climate policy to its "unreasonable and reckless" actions against North Korea's nuclear program.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/trump-and-sessions-have-had-heated-exchange/index.html
QuoteTuesday afternoon, White House press secretary Sean Spicer declined to say whether Trump has confidence in Sessions.
"I have not had a discussion with him about that," Spicer said.
As of 9 p.m. ET Tuesday, the White House still was unable to say whether or not the President backs his attorney general, a White House official said. The official said they wanted to avoid a repeat of what happened when Kellyanne Conway said Trump had confidence in Flynn only to find out hours later that the national security adviser had been pushed out.
Sessions remains at the Justice Department, where a spokeswoman told CNN that he is not stepping down.
ABC News first reported Tuesday that Sessions offered to resign.
:lulz:



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 07, 2017, 02:36:27 PM
You just know your country is a fucking joke when North Korea can legitimately claim moral high ground. My heart does go out to you guys who have to live across there but I'll be fucked if I can stop laughing at this point. Doubly so since the UK's biggest import is american-brand retardedness. I believe we're already in the process of introducing death camps for people who install solar panels on their roofs  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 07, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Is that rock bottom? Surely NK condemning you along with the rest of the world is rock bottom. I almost wonder how this fits into that whole eco-fascist thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 07, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 07, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Is that rock bottom? Surely NK condemning you along with the rest of the world is rock bottom. I almost wonder how this fits into that whole eco-fascist thing.

Well if we create waterworld the climatwe is a less immediate problem. Or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 07, 2017, 05:18:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 07, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Is that rock bottom? Surely NK condemning you along with the rest of the world is rock bottom. I almost wonder how this fits into that whole eco-fascist thing.

We passed rock bottom a year ago and are free-falling through the infinite black void of outer space.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 03:01:25 AM
So, I'm working tonight but I'm making a special effort to get up tomorrow in time for the testimony.  I have popcorn ready to go in the microwave, a red bull bull in the fridge to wake me up, and beer for when we get to the good stuff.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 08, 2017, 03:13:33 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 07, 2017, 02:36:27 PM
You just know your country is a fucking joke when North Korea can legitimately claim moral high ground. My heart does go out to you guys who have to live across there but I'll be fucked if I can stop laughing at this point. Doubly so since the UK's biggest import is american-brand retardedness. I believe we're already in the process of introducing death camps for people who install solar panels on their roofs  :lulz:

Can't stop laughing myself.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 02:05:28 PM
Apparently DC is an hour behind New York.  Who knew?  Anyway, I'm up, stream ready to go.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 08, 2017, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 08, 2017, 02:05:28 PM
Apparently DC is an hour behind New York.  Who knew?  Anyway, I'm up, stream ready to go.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 03:06:10 PM
Or our work computer thinks it is in Europe again - it does this sometimes.  Bleh.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 03:54:38 PM
Steele dossier is still in play, Comey can't talk about it in an unclassified setting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 08, 2017, 04:11:54 PM
I've been following along the best I can.  Interesting stuff, but unbelievably, it may not be damning enough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on June 08, 2017, 04:29:21 PM
"So, that was a hostile act by the Russian government against this country?"

Comey: "Yes"

*Howling in the distance*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 04:42:32 PM
This is definitely going to be interesting. I look forward to the ensuing Republican contortionist performance.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 04:43:15 PM
Directly called the President a liar several times.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 08, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
Admitted to telling an associate to leak information to the NY Times.

The GOP are gonna be passing out pitchforks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 04:47:36 PM
Super curious about how the closed hearing will go. And also I guess we won't know for like 30 years. How do they even handle damning classified testimony at that level?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 05:01:46 PM
me_irl

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/526/601.gif)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 08, 2017, 05:09:49 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 05:19:37 PM
Tom Cotton is still pissed that Comey wouldn't sign off on STELLARWIND.

That's 13 year old butthurt there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on June 08, 2017, 05:34:34 PM
Just got home from work & tuning in (on Twitch of all places).

Why are they asking about Clinton?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 08, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
McCain's either drunk, high, suffering from the early symptoms of dementia or being intentionally stupid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 08, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
This gif is gonna get a workout, I think.  Comey impersonating Sessions' "What ya gonna do?" response.

(http://media.fyre.co/lFaYVTLjRTupScx5h6db_comey-sessions-impression.gif)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on June 08, 2017, 07:37:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 08, 2017, 04:43:15 PM
Directly called the President a liar several times.

Not a lot of people have done that directly, it's kind of amazing how easily he said it, generally how relaxed he is.

It must be a relief to get all this out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Salty on June 08, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 08, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
Admitted to telling an associate to leak information to the NY Times.

The GOP are gonna be passing out pitchforks.

Lord do I hope that's the hill they choose to die on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 08, 2017, 08:49:02 PM
https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/872855549712502785


Quote from: Kieth OlbermannSenator McCain has in essence just asked why Comey didn't prosecute Clinton for helping the Russians get Trump elected.




McCain kinda acknowledges his questions were stupid AF

https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=99CC344D-985C-4575-801D-9FBA8043A24B
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 08, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
Statement from idiots lawyer now out. Comey the actual devil and idiot didntdonuffin, ever.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 09, 2017, 12:48:47 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 08, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
Statement from idiots lawyer now out. Comey the actual devil and idiot didntdonuffin, ever.

Trumpeteers will believe this as gospel truth. I suspect that the True Trump Believers will be dangerous if he does get impeached.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 09, 2017, 05:18:12 AM
Was posted in an irc chat and I know this is appreciated around here: https://www.wmagazine.com/story/james-comey-donald-trump-harassment-abuse-of-power
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 09, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 08, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
Statement from idiots lawyer now out. Comey the actual devil and idiot didntdonuffin, ever.

Also, letter was horribly misspelled.  As in, the very first sentence contained "Predisent".  And it went downhill from there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 09, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
It was probably written by Trump, and his lawyer signed off on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 09, 2017, 02:51:06 PM
Anyone else feel like Comey was channeling Vimes with this bit:

"The reason this is such a big deal — we have this big, messy, wonderful country where we fight with each other all the time, but nobody tells us what to think, what to fight about, what to vote for, except other Americans, and that's wonderful and often painful.

But we're talking about a foreign government that, using technical intrusion, lots of other methods, tried to shape the way we think, we vote, we act. That is a big deal. And people need to recognize it.

It's not about Republicans or Democrats. They're coming after America, which I hope we all love equally. They want to undermine our credibility in the face of the world. They think that this great experiment of ours is a threat to them, and so they're going to try to run it down and dirty it up as much as possible."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 09, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 09, 2017, 05:18:12 AM
Was posted in an irc chat and I know this is appreciated around here: https://www.wmagazine.com/story/james-comey-donald-trump-harassment-abuse-of-power

That was a really well-drawn and apt analogy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 09, 2017, 11:14:58 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40229449
QuoteUS President Donald Trump says he is "100%" willing to speak under oath about his conversations with ex-FBI chief James Comey.
QuoteWhen asked about whether he had recordings of his conversations with Mr Comey, which he has previously hinted, the president said he would address it at a later date.
"I'll tell you something about that maybe sometime in the very near future," he said on Friday. "I'll tell you about it over a short period of time. I'm not hinting at anything."
:lulz:

"I'm letting my lawyer listen to them over the weekend before I confirm or deny the existence of them."

So, in the end, it looks like idiot may just hang himself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 10, 2017, 12:18:55 AM
<clusterfuckery intensifies>
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 10, 2017, 01:23:38 AM
(https://i.redd.it/3nk9c92nll2z.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2017, 12:29:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 08, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
McCain's either drunk, high, suffering from the early symptoms of dementia or being intentionally stupid.

Finished watching the full thing, I'd say McCain's probably a combination of all of the above.

Also easy to see which members are still on the idiot train despite how proceedings opened. Also easy to see which ones are taking it seriously, all the good questions were saved for the closed hearing which must have been hilarious.

Overall, perfect performance from Comey, if idiot does testify he's walking meat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 10, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 09, 2017, 12:48:47 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 08, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
Statement from idiots lawyer now out. Comey the actual devil and idiot didntdonuffin, ever.

Trumpeteers will believe this as gospel truth. I suspect that the True Trump Believers will be dangerous if he does get impeached.

Speaking of which, I've been keeping an eye on Scott Adams. Wanna see something funny?
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/161585486426/the-comey-fog

QuoteThere are several related stories swirling around the news that involve Russia, Trump Idiot, Trump's Idiot's campaign staff, and Comey. All together, the stories are beyond the capacity of the human brain to hold the details and keep them from automatically conflating in our minds and becoming more soup than individual ingredients. When you have this level of complexity, humans reflexively default to using bias over reason. Our capacity for reason isn't up to the job in this case because all the Russia-Comey-TrumpIdiot stuff has started to run together in our minds. We would happily use our limited powers of reason in this situation if we could, but the complexity of it all makes that a dream beyond our grasp.

Could a trained lawyer sort out this complexity and at least tell you whether or not a law has been broken? Apparently not. Otherwise the lawyers on both sides would agree. They don't.

My emphasis on the last part. It's amazing, it's almost like lawyers are paid to support different sides! Was he actually expecting a statement from Idiot's lawyer saying "My guy is so fucking guilty, I'm walking away. Seriously guys, super guilty. This is part of a life change as I've now decided I hate money."

The rest of it reads like he just didn't see the opening 15 or so minutes where the chairman and deputy gave a narrative of the known facts to date which included reams of "Russia is fucking with us, and we ALL agree on that and so do you." 

But hey, 'This is all beyond what any puny mind can grasp anyway, right?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 10, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
There's an interesting phenomenon with cults; typically with most cults, there is a moment of truth when the cult predictions don't come true, or the cult leader is exposed as a fraud. At that time, a large proportion of the cult's followers become disillusioned, and leave the cult, often forming deep hostility and resentment toward the cult that wasted their time/money and/or caused them to engage in behavior they believe they would not normally have done. The remaining proportion, however, develop an even deeper faith, and an unshakeable resolve to support and believe in the cult no matter what evidence indicates it is an unwise choice, or that they are being misled and even defrauded.

Scott Adams is probably going to be the latter, and it will be an interesting thing to watch unfold as his attempts to rationalize become increasingly shrill and disjointed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
Cognitive dissonance is going to tear Scott Adam's head apart.  He's already reached the stage of long, rambling arguments with strangers on Reddit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 11, 2017, 01:24:47 AM
Sessions testifying tuesday. Buying shares in popcorn companies, this will be classic.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2017, 09:39:22 PM
He's only doing so in order to avoid a public testimony in front of another committee (https://thinkprogress.org/sessions-cancels-testimony-f8874373e4f).

QuoteInstead of testifying publicly before the appropriations committees, where these matters could be discussed in the light of day, Sessions will appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee. The Washington Post and USA Today report that Sessions' appearance is expected to be closed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2017, 04:32:07 PM
Sessions says he wants an open hearing now.

I suspect the administration is gearing up to ratfuck Mueller as special counsel.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 13, 2017, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 12, 2017, 04:32:07 PM
Sessions says he wants an open hearing now.

I suspect the administration is gearing up to ratfuck Mueller as special counsel.

Rumors swirling in this regard, from what I've heard of Mueller he's probably quite prepared for this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 03:21:19 PM
The thing is, Congress can simply reinstate Mueller, which the Democrats have made clear they will do if he is fired.  But it's not so clear what the Republicans will do.  Hence the ratfucking, the media campaign to sway them via swaying the public.  We're already seeing the lower tier alt-lite outlets going with Mueller being in the pay of the Clintons etc.  Soon the larger rightwing media campaign will follow.  Get the mob fired up and you can do anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
Color me unsurprised. Weren't we saying this all along?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/06/new_research_on_role_of_sexism_in_2016_election.html
QuoteMaxwell's gender-based analysis of the Blair Center Poll's results for this year has just been released, and it shows that sexism absolutely did matter. Trump's voters were more sexist than Clinton's (and Ted Cruz voters were even more sexist than Trump voters). Republicans were far more sexist than Democrats. White respondents were more sexist than black Americans and Latinos. Female respondents, not to be outdone, were also quite sexist! And Bernie primary voters who didn't vote for Clinton in the general were more sexist than those who did.

Maxwell's report: https://blaircenter.uark.edu/the-impact-of-modern-sexism/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on June 13, 2017, 06:47:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
Color me unsurprised. Weren't we saying this all along?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/06/new_research_on_role_of_sexism_in_2016_election.html
QuoteMaxwell's gender-based analysis of the Blair Center Poll's results for this year has just been released, and it shows that sexism absolutely did matter. Trump's voters were more sexist than Clinton's (and Ted Cruz voters were even more sexist than Trump voters). Republicans were far more sexist than Democrats. White respondents were more sexist than black Americans and Latinos. Female respondents, not to be outdone, were also quite sexist! And Bernie primary voters who didn't vote for Clinton in the general were more sexist than those who did.

Maxwell's report: https://blaircenter.uark.edu/the-impact-of-modern-sexism/


I'm noticing a lot more overt sexism lately... like racism I think it feels safe for these assholes to start talking openly about how they always felt.

The bright side is these recent movies featuring central female characters must be inducing a fair amount of stress-induced coronaries.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2017, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 13, 2017, 06:47:24 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
Color me unsurprised. Weren't we saying this all along?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2017/06/new_research_on_role_of_sexism_in_2016_election.html
QuoteMaxwell's gender-based analysis of the Blair Center Poll's results for this year has just been released, and it shows that sexism absolutely did matter. Trump's voters were more sexist than Clinton's (and Ted Cruz voters were even more sexist than Trump voters). Republicans were far more sexist than Democrats. White respondents were more sexist than black Americans and Latinos. Female respondents, not to be outdone, were also quite sexist! And Bernie primary voters who didn't vote for Clinton in the general were more sexist than those who did.

Maxwell's report: https://blaircenter.uark.edu/the-impact-of-modern-sexism/


I'm noticing a lot more overt sexism lately... like racism I think it feels safe for these assholes to start talking openly about how they always felt.

The bright side is these recent movies featuring central female characters must be inducing a fair amount of stress-induced coronaries.

Yeah, I feel like there's a distinct "culture wars" vibe around feminism right now. A lot of people on the left have yelled and hooted about how it's not necessary anymore for a long time, but as overt sexism and misogyny becomes more visible and impossible to ignore, I think that position is getting harder and harder to maintain. At the same time, aggressive gendered marketing toward men is ramping up notably, as well as social messaging about masculinity and manliness.   
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2017, 08:34:48 PM
It's extremely noticeable online, Gamergate helped bring it to the fore of social media and online culture, via /PUATheRedPill/ReturnOfTheKings/rape is awesome crowd and its since developed into an entire online media industry of its own.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 13, 2017, 11:30:35 PM
Seen snippets of sessions testimony, it's practically the opposite of Comey. Presents very badly, screams dishonesty and is clearly trying to curry favour with idiot rather than actually help explain anything.

I mean, I expected as much, I just thought the prick would be a little slicker about it than this. Will go through the full thing because I'm sure there's basis for criminal charges given how long it's gone on. I assume sessions knows this as well and is expecting idiot to save him from any fallout.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 13, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
The whole thing boils down to this: "I can't answer that because it's between me and the president." "Are you invoking executive privilege?" (i.e., are you an idiot) "No, you and I both know I can't do that. I'm giving the president the option to invoke executive privilege later on." "Will you answer these in closed session?" "Maybe."

And -- most important, I must stress. "Have you met with the Russians to overthrow the rightful rule of law in the United States?" "I don't remember doing that but if I did it was very proper and nothing improper happened at all."

Oh, and poor Sen. Harris getting talked over by 5 different fucking people with a look of long-suffering patience on her face.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
I sadly couldn't watch due to being at work.  From what I understand, Senator Harris was herself a former prosecutor, and Sessions was noticeably nervous at being questioned by her.  Were the interrupting parties Republican?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 12:03:48 PM
You know that's a silly question, right? I believe it was McCain, I was watching a version that kept cameras on sessions face.

Overall, it was a piss poor performance from him. Telegraphing to idiot where he should claim executive privilege was quite obvious. His non answers to Harris and clear attempts to just run the clock out should have made him embarrassed but this is sessions.

A reliance on "policy" where you can't produce the policy is a bit of a no-no. No questions on any other diplomats met from other nations so little way to gauge if he met more or less than is usual with kislayak. Reluctant to commit to future appearances. Cotton practically sucked him off for his segment. Piss poor memory throughout. In general the opposite of comeys testimony. Evasive answers, little info, quick to recall a conversation with kislayak from the start of the Crimea debacle, couldn't remember standing 2 meters away in a group photo at a speech at the start of the year.

His "I get nervous" to Harris is telling. I'd be nervous too if I was trying my best to avoid criminal charges under oath.

Anecdotal, but when I've had to testify under oath I was in a similar situation to comey (stacks of contemporary notes, email chains, detailed timeline of actions taken, wronged party) and the other side was similar to sessions with a "we thought we could, so we did." It didn't end well for them and I predict the same for sessions, eventually.

So, bets on when idiot decides to hang himself under oath? Tuppence on week after next and never.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 12:14:19 PM
Well, Cindy McCain did get a State Department job recently. US Ambassador-at-large for Human Rights.

According to The Hill "Trump personally, aggressively courted her" for the role.  In other words, he bought McCain off.  Trying to derail Comey and cover Sessions was the price.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
That explains Mccains section this time and last week then. Also adds an interesting factor if idiot testifies as he's now got "that thing" with Mccain, and I would assume others?

What's in it for Cotton? Just butthurt over comey or other incentives possibly at play?

Other things - sessions repeatedly reffering to the panel as "colleagues" in a "I'm one of you" way was a little off. Body language noticable shifted depending on questioners and the quality of the questions went with that.

Passing implications that methods of communication between parties were dead drops and such, not open meetings. If there's more on that or any substance to it everyone involved is screwed to beyond hope. That probably qualifies as straight up treason.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 12:37:42 PM
Tom Cotton is Trump's life coach for the White House. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senator-tom-cotton-trump-coach-providing-policy-rhetoric.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 14, 2017, 12:37:42 PM
Tom Cotton is Trump's life coach for the White House. (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/senator-tom-cotton-trump-coach-providing-policy-rhetoric.html?_r=0)

Holy shit  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote"What you see is what you get with the president Idiot," Mr. Cotton said. "I think that's a good measure of a man. Not just someone in politics. You don't get much different in private than in you do public."

The natural implication here is he's just as stupid and incompetent in private as he presents himself in public.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 01:18:24 PM
Someone maybe just tried to hit Congressional Majority Whip.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40275055

QuoteA US Republican politician and aides have been shot during baseball practice in Virginia, US reports say.

Police in the upmarket Washington DC suburb of Alexandria said they were investigating a "multiple shooting" and a suspect was in custody.

Fox News said House of Representatives Majority Whip Steve Scalise and aides have been hit by gunfire.

Police tweeted they were "investigating multiple shooting 400 block E Monroe St. Suspect believed in custody."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
And now we have a very real spectre of marshal law over our heads.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
I'd be surprised.  Shooter is described as white, mid 40s, no doubt lurid description of his mental state will be forthcoming.  He doesn't fit an outsider-existential threat-thingly veiled racism-potential conspiracy candidate.

For other examples, see the Neo-Nazi in Florida last week who was let out on bail despite stockpiling ammo, explosives and having material related to McVeigh in his flat.

Also, the threat is over.  Martial law can't be used to justify intervention in a case where the police response clearly overwhelmed the attacker, or else every school and workplace shooting would equally be grounds for martial law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 14, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
I didn't see who spoke up over Harris, but I know that there was more than one. There was also an audible "doesn't seem like it" (sounded like Cornyn's voice) when the Chairman stated that the focus was the Russia situation, so there's a /concerted/ effort to derail and bury this.

There was a very obvious show Sessions was putting on. When the Chairman (who had the face of a cannibal the entire time, it was amazing) questioned him he played this senile old man routine and hunched in his chair. When Cotton was talking, he was /noticeably/ relaxed and friendly, leaned back, got to acting very at ease. Cornyn had him only slightly more on edge. McCain was actually asking okay questions and Sessions acted very threatened by him, surprisingly. Sessions tried some bullshit with the Vice Chairman early on but he managed to keep the focus on. Reed, Harris, Wyden and someone else I didnt catch the name of all were putting the screws to him for the stupidity of the whole "executive privilege" thing, and he got visibly enraged with Wyden and the guy-I-can't-remember.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 14, 2017, 06:14:11 PM
BBC has info on the shooter:

Quote
    James T Hodgkinson is a 66-year-old man from Belleville, Illinois, a small city just across the Mississippi River from the city of St Louis, Missouri
    Mr Hodgkinson's wife told ABC News he moved to Virginia two months ago
    His Facebook account shows anti-Republican and anti-Trump rhetoric
    He was a volunteer on the campaign of former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 14, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
The Berniebros are really going to fuck the dog, huh?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
And now we have a very real spectre of marshal law over our heads.

Martial Law, I don't see how you could...

...

...

...OH, NO, THEY GOT HIM!  THEY GOT LMNO WITH A BAG OVER HIS HEAD, AND REPLACED HIM WITH A CLONE.   :cry:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:19:24 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 14, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
I didn't see who spoke up over Harris, but I know that there was more than one. There was also an audible "doesn't seem like it" (sounded like Cornyn's voice) when the Chairman stated that the focus was the Russia situation, so there's a /concerted/ effort to derail and bury this.

There was a very obvious show Sessions was putting on. When the Chairman (who had the face of a cannibal the entire time, it was amazing) questioned him he played this senile old man routine and hunched in his chair. When Cotton was talking, he was /noticeably/ relaxed and friendly, leaned back, got to acting very at ease. Cornyn had him only slightly more on edge. McCain was actually asking okay questions and Sessions acted very threatened by him, surprisingly. Sessions tried some bullshit with the Vice Chairman early on but he managed to keep the focus on. Reed, Harris, Wyden and someone else I didnt catch the name of all were putting the screws to him for the stupidity of the whole "executive privilege" thing, and he got visibly enraged with Wyden and the guy-I-can't-remember.

America hired a billionaire to protect them from billionaires.  We hire cops to investigate fellow cops.  Obviously, we're going to have congress investigate members and former members of congress.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
And now we have a very real spectre of marshal law over our heads.

Martial Law, I don't see how you could...

...

...

...OH, NO, THEY GOT HIM!  THEY GOT LMNO WITH A BAG OVER HIS HEAD, AND REPLACED HIM WITH A CLONE.   :cry:

Of what do you speak, citizen?  I am the LMNO man, doing LMNO things.  Really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 14, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
And now we have a very real spectre of marshal law over our heads.

Martial Law, I don't see how you could...

...

...

...OH, NO, THEY GOT HIM!  THEY GOT LMNO WITH A BAG OVER HIS HEAD, AND REPLACED HIM WITH A CLONE.   :cry:

Of what do you speak, citizen?  I am the LMNO man, doing LMNO things.  Really.

I have seen enough Don Siegal flicks to know where this is going.  :sadbanana:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
Also, this happened.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html?_r=0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
So anyone having a punt on whether a republican being shot will make them rethink their views on gun control?

Me neither, as we all know by now the shooter was a Clinton agent in the pay of the mole people and (((soros))), right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Apparently shooter was a Sanders supporter according to CNN.

Close enough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
So anyone having a punt on whether a republican being shot will make them rethink their views on gun control?

Me neither, as we all know by now the shooter was a Clinton agent in the pay of the mole people and (((soros))), right?

I am betting the shooter was off his meds, but I am told I am a total cuck and my opinion about this cannot be trusted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Apparently shooter was a Sanders supporter according to CNN.

Close enough.

Jill Stein voter, I heard.  Half a dozen of one, six of the other.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Apparently shooter was a Sanders supporter according to CNN.

Close enough.

Jill Stein voter, I heard.  Half a dozen of one, six of the other.

Still comes down to left wing loon with a gun either way.

Choice of target is a little odd, never even heard of the guy shot until now. Surely there's a heap of better targets if you're going to pull shit like this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Apparently shooter was a Sanders supporter according to CNN.

Close enough.

Jill Stein voter, I heard.  Half a dozen of one, six of the other.

Still comes down to left wing loon with a gun either way.

Choice of target is a little odd, never even heard of the guy shot until now. Surely there's a heap of better targets if you're going to pull shit like this?

He's an asshole, no qualms about saying that.

But he's not in the McConnell/Ryan/Sessions league of assholes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 14, 2017, 08:22:03 PM
"Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical!" --Rand Paul

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/746022114042478592
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 11:57:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:50:27 PM
Apparently shooter was a Sanders supporter according to CNN.

Close enough.

Jill Stein voter, I heard.  Half a dozen of one, six of the other.

Still comes down to left wing loon with a gun either way.

Choice of target is a little odd, never even heard of the guy shot until now. Surely there's a heap of better targets if you're going to pull shit like this?

He's an asshole, no qualms about saying that.

But he's not in the McConnell/Ryan/Sessions league of assholes.

Exactly, it's just another asshole in a sea of them. Unless there's some kind of personal link between them it just strikes me as a very odd target.

Off his meds wouldn't be a surprise result really. The shooter is apparently dead so we'll get his life in gory detail soon enough.

It's also another notch on the "people going after political figures" stick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
He is the House Majority Whip, and has backed Trump 100% on everything he has done, and has a history of courting white supremacist groups.

I can see why someone local would find him a tempting target.  He's basically a mini-Trump.

In other news, since Comey was sacked, Trump himself has been under investigation for obstruction of justice.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 15, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
I recall reading somewhere that he asked a passerby in the  parking lot prior to the shooting if it was Republicans or Democrats practicing.

It may just be that none of those hit were intended because of their person, just their party. The good news, for them, is that he wasn't a great shot.

... that's just about the only good news. I do find it fucked that when Gifford and company were gunned down they didn't stop the wheels of government for a whole day as happened today. Not much else to say.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 15, 2017, 05:25:37 PM
"Greatest witch hunt in US history" says idiot.

Joe McCarthy wants a word.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 11:12:02 PM
https://www.amazon.com/President-Big-Boy-Truck-Book/dp/1947059009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495587232&sr=8-1&keywords=Funny+Kids+Books (https://www.amazon.com/President-Big-Boy-Truck-Book/dp/1947059009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495587232&sr=8-1&keywords=Funny+Kids+Books)
:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 16, 2017, 06:15:57 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 15, 2017, 11:12:02 PM
https://www.amazon.com/President-Big-Boy-Truck-Book/dp/1947059009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495587232&sr=8-1&keywords=Funny+Kids+Books (https://www.amazon.com/President-Big-Boy-Truck-Book/dp/1947059009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495587232&sr=8-1&keywords=Funny+Kids+Books)
:lulz:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...

Idiots attorney has also hired a lawyer.

Nothing screams innocent like your lawyer lawyering up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...

Idiots attorney has also hired a lawyer.

Nothing screams innocent like your lawyer lawyering up.

Are you fucking serious. I can't find this, can you link?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 16, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
It's lawyers all the way down!  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2017, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...

Idiots attorney has also hired a lawyer.

Nothing screams innocent like your lawyer lawyering up.

Are you fucking serious. I can't find this, can you link?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338139-trumps-personal-lawyer-hires-attorney-report

QuotePresident Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, has hired his own attorney as the special counsel investigation into Russian election interference progresses, NBC News reported Friday.

Cohen has hired Washington, D.C., attorney Stephen M. Ryan, according to NBC's Katy Tur.

A source told Tur that Cohen will testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Sept. 5, adding that the testimony was delayed due to "scheduling and logistics."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
God. Daamn. It seems like time to place bets on /something/ but /what/? I have no clue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Deputy AG Rosenstein may also have to recuse himself from the investigation.  As the special counsel is now investigating the potential obstruction of justice in addition to the Russia allegations, and Rosenstein may be called upon as a witness to the former, he cannot continue to preside over a case he is involved with.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...

Idiots attorney has also hired a lawyer.

Nothing screams innocent like your lawyer lawyering up.

Are you fucking serious. I can't find this, can you link?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338139-trumps-personal-lawyer-hires-attorney-report

QuotePresident Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, has hired his own attorney as the special counsel investigation into Russian election interference progresses, NBC News reported Friday.

Cohen has hired Washington, D.C., attorney Stephen M. Ryan, according to NBC's Katy Tur.

A source told Tur that Cohen will testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Sept. 5, adding that the testimony was delayed due to "scheduling and logistics."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/michael-cohen-hires-attorney-russia-investigations/index.html
QuoteFormer Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo has also hired Dennis Vacco, a former New York attorney general and US attorney, to represent him in the matters, a source familiar with the situation said.


Mueller is up to 13 lawyers on his side, if anyone's keeping count.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 17, 2017, 12:36:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Deputy AG Rosenstein may also have to recuse himself from the investigation.  As the special counsel is now investigating the potential obstruction of justice in addition to the Russia allegations, and Rosenstein may be called upon as a witness to the former, he cannot continue to preside over a case he is involved with.

If that occurs, what does that mean WRT Trump potentially trying to bury Mueller?

One of the few avenues I see talked about involves him going to Rosenstein. If Rosenstein recuses himself /after/ appointing the counsel, does the counsel have any Justice Dept official with the authority to shitcan him? Does /anyone/ have the authority to can him without doing particularly weird and potentially illegal things in that situation?

I kind of like the idea of a judicial secret police aimed at keeping the top leadership honest.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 01:06:43 AM
QuoteOne of the few avenues I see talked about involves him going to Rosenstein. If Rosenstein recuses himself /after/ appointing the counsel, does the counsel have any Justice Dept official with the authority to shitcan him? Does /anyone/ have the authority to can him without doing particularly weird and potentially illegal things in that situation?

I doubt this is now possible without a mini-constitutional crisis. Whoever is directly under Rosenstein would have to start it or potentially risk charges themselves for failure to do so when their underling does.

I'd say there's big hints about how this is expected to go with everyone grabbing lawyers and hearings on the matters are scheduled in a variety of ways from now till god knows when. It'll reach a point where idiot is just "that guy who is squatting in the white house" and he'll be treated as an irrelevance. Anything he does probably only adds to the case(s) against him at this point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on June 17, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 01:06:43 AM
QuoteOne of the few avenues I see talked about involves him going to Rosenstein. If Rosenstein recuses himself /after/ appointing the counsel, does the counsel have any Justice Dept official with the authority to shitcan him? Does /anyone/ have the authority to can him without doing particularly weird and potentially illegal things in that situation?

I doubt this is now possible without a mini-constitutional crisis. Whoever is directly under Rosenstein would have to start it or potentially risk charges themselves for failure to do so when their underling does.

I'd say there's big hints about how this is expected to go with everyone grabbing lawyers and hearings on the matters are scheduled in a variety of ways from now till god knows when. It'll reach a point where idiot is just "that guy who is squatting in the white house" and he'll be treated as an irrelevance. Anything he does probably only adds to the case(s) against him at this point.

Trump is already an irrelevance. The past two days or so, news about him is his impotent twitter-flailing or side-mentions in articles about everyone else lawyering up -- and Mueller gearing up to stick his dick in Trump's bank account.

Two full days.

He barely exists at this point, everything going on is so much bigger than the Bad Hair.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 17, 2017, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 17, 2017, 12:36:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Deputy AG Rosenstein may also have to recuse himself from the investigation.  As the special counsel is now investigating the potential obstruction of justice in addition to the Russia allegations, and Rosenstein may be called upon as a witness to the former, he cannot continue to preside over a case he is involved with.

If that occurs, what does that mean WRT Trump potentially trying to bury Mueller?

One of the few avenues I see talked about involves him going to Rosenstein. If Rosenstein recuses himself /after/ appointing the counsel, does the counsel have any Justice Dept official with the authority to shitcan him? Does /anyone/ have the authority to can him without doing particularly weird and potentially illegal things in that situation?

I kind of like the idea of a judicial secret police aimed at keeping the top leadership honest.

I believe it goes to the next person down the chain from Deputy AG Rosenstein, whoever that is.  I think that would be the Associate Attorney General, Rachel Brand.

As for firing, the President can himself fire the Special Counsel at any time, or order the Attorney General to do so.  Trump has been considering doing so.  However, Congress can pass a motion to reinstate a special counsel, if they so choose.  It also makes the President look guilty as fuck, which may be the only factor which has prevented him from doing it so far.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 01:28:02 AM
Ken Starr has popped up in the odd interview. Interesting talking head as once did a similar process that led to Bill Clinton's woes. That investigation started about property and ended with Monica Lewinsky. So it gives an idea about where this whole thing with Mueller can potentially go, which is practically fucking anywhere.


QuoteIt also makes the President look guilty as fuck, which may be the only factor which has prevented him from doing it so far.

I'll have a fiver on it happening though. Sooner or later idiot will lose any self control he has on the issue and do it anyway. Probably around the time that lying MSM starts declaring him "obviously guilty of REDACTED".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 17, 2017, 02:07:56 AM
I fully expect him to stir up as much shit as he possibly can on his way out, and after -- way after, even. It will be an integral part of his brand. He'll play that tune till the day he dies, and leave it for his children to inherit for their personal and political gain.

And then there's all the classified info he has access to. Who know what he's learned, and how he'll use it to his advantage after he's out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on June 17, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
Here's the thing... once idiot is out, whether it is in a standard manner or impeachment, we are NEVER GOING TO HEAR THE END of how unfair it all was, and how no president in history had it as hard as him. For as long as he lives. Just non fucking stop.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on June 17, 2017, 02:16:53 AM
So prepare yourself now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
God. Daamn. It seems like time to place bets on /something/ but /what/? I have no clue.

Well there's a few things. The first one is "which idiot ally with knowledge will choose to cooperate for immunity first". My money's on Flynn for that one.

The second is when will the lawyers lawyer get his own lawyer? I reckon start of August for that, quietly. If I remember correctly, lawyer/client privilege covers a lot but serious shit like treason is exempt and a duty to report kicks in. Not a lawyer etc. I'm sure we'll be hearing plenty from them in the future.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 17, 2017, 04:51:46 AM
Confirmed Associate Attorney General is next in line.  Also confirmed she is a massive Ted Cruz supporter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 17, 2017, 06:28:58 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
God. Daamn. It seems like time to place bets on /something/ but /what/? I have no clue.

Well there's a few things. The first one is "which idiot ally with knowledge will choose to cooperate for immunity first". My money's on Flynn for that one.

The second is when will the lawyers lawyer get his own lawyer? I reckon start of August for that, quietly. If I remember correctly, lawyer/client privilege covers a lot but serious shit like treason is exempt and a duty to report kicks in. Not a lawyer etc. I'm sure we'll be hearing plenty from them in the future.

Based on my extensive knowledge of the legal system, which I earned by watching The People's Court as a kid and also hearing legal-sounding jargon on random episodes of three different Law & Order series, I think lawyers will start resigning their posts if it ever looks like the T word starts being bandied about by serious people.

That said, I would be legitimately shocked if it ever gets even half that far. Impeachment (even without conviction in the Senate) is still a long ways off ,politically, and impeachment isn't a criminal justice thing. And if it ever gets that far, there's no reason to think they'll pursue criminal charges of any kind afterward, let alone Treason.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:35:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 16, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 08:46:18 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 16, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Pence is hiring outside legal help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-hires-outside-counsel-to-deal-with-russia-probe-inquiries/2017/06/15/c40ef55c-51f5-11e7-a973-3dae94ed3eb7_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.23967684a357

Screams innocent to me.

Could be he doesn't believe Trump's lawyer wont throw him under a bus.  I'd worry about that, in his position.  Then again, I don't believe Pence is anywhere as innocent as he's making out either...

Idiots attorney has also hired a lawyer.

Nothing screams innocent like your lawyer lawyering up.

Yo dawg, I heard you like lawyers...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 17, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
Here's the thing... once idiot is out, whether it is in a standard manner or impeachment, we are NEVER GOING TO HEAR THE END of how unfair it all was, and how no president in history had it as hard as him. For as long as he lives. Just non fucking stop.

Even if he goes to prison, he'll probably write a book called something like "FRAMED: The Most Persecuted Man in America Speaks".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 17, 2017, 03:42:53 AM
Quote from: 00.dusk on June 16, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
God. Daamn. It seems like time to place bets on /something/ but /what/? I have no clue.

Well there's a few things. The first one is "which idiot ally with knowledge will choose to cooperate for immunity first". My money's on Flynn for that one.

The second is when will the lawyers lawyer get his own lawyer? I reckon start of August for that, quietly. If I remember correctly, lawyer/client privilege covers a lot but serious shit like treason is exempt and a duty to report kicks in. Not a lawyer etc. I'm sure we'll be hearing plenty from them in the future.

Flynn already tried that, remember? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/senate-intelligence-committee-rejects-immunity-michael-flynn-n741061
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 17, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 17, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
Here's the thing... once idiot is out, whether it is in a standard manner or impeachment, we are NEVER GOING TO HEAR THE END of how unfair it all was, and how no president in history had it as hard as him. For as long as he lives. Just non fucking stop.

Even if he goes to prison, he'll probably write a book called something like "FRAMED: The Most Persecuted Man in America Speaks".

"If I Did It I Would Have Sold America Out Bigly: Confessions of the largest handed President."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 17, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 17, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 17, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
Here's the thing... once idiot is out, whether it is in a standard manner or impeachment, we are NEVER GOING TO HEAR THE END of how unfair it all was, and how no president in history had it as hard as him. For as long as he lives. Just non fucking stop.

Even if he goes to prison, he'll probably write a book called something like "FRAMED: The Most Persecuted Man in America Speaks".

"If I Did It I Would Have Sold America Out Bigly: Confessions of the largest handed President."

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on June 18, 2017, 04:42:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 14, 2017, 07:50:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 14, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
So anyone having a punt on whether a republican being shot will make them rethink their views on gun control?

Me neither, as we all know by now the shooter was a Clinton agent in the pay of the mole people and (((soros))), right?

I am betting the shooter was off his meds, but I am told I am a total cuck and my opinion about this cannot be trusted.

I TRUST YOU
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 23, 2017, 07:08:51 PM
"After listening to the tapes, my lawyers have destroyed them and told me to say there were never any tapes".

I'm guessing 3 months or so and then the recordings that don't exist leak. It just seems inevitable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
Nah.  He's used fake tapes as a bluff before with reporters when he was just an asshole real estate con artist.  It's more believable he'd go with an old trope as opposed to concocting a real surveillance system.

Plus, with the amount of leaks so far, the absence of leaks about this points to truth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 23, 2017, 11:44:14 PM
We will see, I am kind of expecting shit like that to be used in evidence against him, along with plenty of other crap he's said publically.

On another note:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/kevin-mccarthy-donald-trump-vladimir-putin.html?mc=adintl&mcid=keywee&mccr=intdesk&ad-keywords=IntlAudDev&kwp_0=432214&kwp_4=1589511&kwp_1=687290
QuoteThe trouble began in June, with a meeting of Republican leaders on Capitol Hill.

It was then, according to The Post, that Mr. McCarthy delivered his assessment, playful or otherwise: "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump," Mr. McCarthy said. Representative Dana Rohrabacher, Republican of California, is known as Mr. Putin's most vigorous defender in Congress.

Mr. McCarthy's comments drew some laughter, according to The Post, prompting him to add, "Swear to God."

Mr. Ryan then instructed other attendees not to share the conversation. "No leaks," he said, according to The Post. "This is how we know we're a real family here."

The paper reported that spokesmen for Mr. Ryan and Mr. McCarthy at first denied the exchange had taken place until being told that The Post would cite a recording.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 24, 2017, 12:17:01 AM
Also, for posterity:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

QuoteJAN. 21 "I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)JAN. 21 "A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine." (Idiot was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)JAN. 23 "Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote." (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)JAN. 25 "Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive." (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)JAN. 25 "Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)" (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)JAN. 25 "You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore." (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)JAN. 25 "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that." (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)JAN. 26 "We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't." (Vetting lasts up to two years.)JAN. 26 "I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better." (Most of the cuts were already planned.)JAN. 28 "The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers." (It never apologized.)JAN. 29 "The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote." (There is no support for this.)JAN. 30 "Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage." (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)FEB. 3 "Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!" (There is no evidence of paid protesters.)FEB. 4 "After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!" (It never apologized.)FEB. 5 "We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully." (About 60,000 people were affected.)FEB. 6 "I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35." (Much of the price drop was projected before Idiot took office.)FEB. 6 "It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it." (Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)FEB. 6 "The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!" (It didn't apologize.)FEB. 6 "And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed." (ISIS has existed since 2004.)FEB. 7 "And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it's been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years." (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)FEB. 7 "I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35." (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Idiot took office.)FEB. 9 "Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave 'service' in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!" (It was part of Cuomo's first question.)FEB. 9 Sen. Richard Blumenthal "now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?" (The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)FEB. 10 "I don't know about it. I haven't seen it. What report is that?" (Idiot knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)FEB. 12 "Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!" (The media did cover it.)FEB. 16 "We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan." (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)FEB. 16 "That's the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports." (Delta's problems happened two days later.)FEB. 16 "Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives." (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)FEB. 16 "When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they're not giving classified information." (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)FEB. 16 "We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision." (The rollout was chaotic.)FEB. 16 "They're giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates." (It was widely covered.)FEB. 18 "And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing." (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.)FEB. 18 "You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?" (Idiot implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)FEB. 24 "By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks." (There was no evidence of long lines.)FEB. 24 "ICE came and endorsed me." (Only its union did.)FEB. 24 "Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them." (Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)FEB. 27 "Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges." (Many fewer pulled out.)FEB. 27 "On one plane, on a small order of one plane, I saved $725 million. And I would say I devoted about, if I added it up, all those calls, probably about an hour. So I think that might be my highest and best use." (Much of the price cut was already projected.)FEB. 28 "And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that." (NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.)FEB. 28 "The E.P.A.'s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands." (There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)FEB. 28 "We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials." (They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)MARCH 3 "It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet." (Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)MARCH 4 "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Idiot Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)MARCH 4 "How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" (There's no evidence of a wiretap.)MARCH 7 "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!" (113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)MARCH 13 "I saved a lot of money on those jets, didn't I? Did I do a good job? More than $725 million on them." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Idiot.)MARCH 13 "First of all, it covers very few people." (About 20 million people gained insurance under Obamacare.)MARCH 15 "On the airplanes, I saved $725 million. Probably took me a half an hour if you added up all of the times." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Idiot.)MARCH 17 "I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company." (There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)MARCH 20 "With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the taxpayers of our country over $700 million." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Idiot.)MARCH 21 "To save taxpayer dollars, I've already begun negotiating better contracts for the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of which there are many sets." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Idiot.)MARCH 22 "I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a massive riot, and death, and problems." (Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)MARCH 22 "NATO, obsolete, because it doesn't cover terrorism. They fixed that." (It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)MARCH 22 "Well, now, if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly they register wrong — in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly and/or illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people." (There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.)MARCH 29 "Remember when the failing @nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!" (It didn't apologize.)MARCH 31 "We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to be there if I — if I didn't win this election, those plants would never even think about going back. They were gone." (These investments were already planned.)APRIL 2 "And I was totally opposed to the war in the Middle East which I think finally has been proven, people tried very hard to say I wasn't but you've seen that it is now improving." (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)APRIL 2 "Now, my last tweet — you know, the one that you are talking about, perhaps — was the one about being, in quotes, wiretapped, meaning surveilled. Guess what, it is turning out to be true." (There is still no evidence.)APRIL 5 "You have many states coming up where they're going to have no insurance company. O.K.? It's already happened in Tennessee. It's happening in Kentucky. Tennessee only has half coverage. Half the state is gone. They left." (Every marketplace region in Tennessee had at least one insurer.)APRIL 6 "If you look at the kind of cost-cutting we've been able to achieve with the military and at the same time ordering vast amounts of equipment — saved hundreds of millions of dollars on airplanes, and really billions, because if you take that out over a period of years it's many billions of dollars — I think we've had a tremendous success." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.)APRIL 11 "I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn't know Steve." (He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)APRIL 12 "You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists. So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through." (At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)APRIL 12 "The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized." (There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)APRIL 12 "The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism." (NATO has been engaged in counterterrorism efforts since the 1980s.)APRIL 12 "Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died." (The campaign was expected to take months.)APRIL 16 "Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday. The election is over!" (There's no evidence of paid protesters.)APRIL 18 "The fake media goes, 'Idiot changed his stance on China.' I haven't changed my stance." (He did.)APRIL 21 "On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million." (Much of the price cuts were already projected.)APRIL 21 "When WikiLeaks came out ... never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it." (He criticized it as early as 2010.)APRIL 27 "I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare." (The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)APRIL 28 "The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it's $17 billion trade deficit with Canada." (The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)APRIL 28 "She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime." (Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.)APRIL 28 "The F-35 fighter jet program — it was way over budget. I've saved $725 million plus, just by getting involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Idiot.)APRIL 29 "They're incompetent, dishonest people who after an election had to apologize because they covered it, us, me, but all of us, they covered it so badly that they felt they were forced to apologize because their predictions were so bad." (The Times did not apologize.)APRIL 29 "As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about currency manipulation for a long time. But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.)APRIL 29 "I've already saved more than $725 million on a simple order of F-35 planes. I got involved in the negotiation." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Idiot.)APRIL 29 "We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share. They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe." (The deal was struck in 2014.)APRIL 29 "When they talk about currency manipulation, and I did say I would call China, if they were, a currency manipulator, early in my tenure. And then I get there. Number one, they — as soon as I got elected, they stopped." (China stopped in 2014.)APRIL 29 "I was negotiating to reduce the price of the big fighter jet contract, the F-35, which was totally out of control. I will save billions and billions and billions of dollars." (Most of the cuts were planned before Idiot.)APRIL 29 "I think our side's been proven very strongly. And everybody's talking about it." (There's still no evidence Idiot's phones were tapped.)MAY 1 "Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare." (The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)MAY 1 "The F-35 fighter jet — I saved — I got involved in the negotiation. It's 2,500 jets. I negotiated for 90 planes, lot 10. I got $725 million off the price." (Much of the price cuts were planned before Idiot.)MAY 1 "First of all, since I started running, they haven't increased their — you know, they have not manipulated their currency. I think that was out of respect to me and the campaign." (China stopped years ago.)MAY 2 "I love buying those planes at a reduced price. I have been really — I have cut billions — I have to tell you this, and they can check, right, Martha? I have cut billions and billions of dollars off plane contracts sitting here." (Much of the cost cuts were planned before Idiot.)MAY 4 "Number two, they're actually not a currency [manipulator]. You know, since I've been talking about currency manipulation with respect to them and other countries, they stopped." (China stopped years ago.)MAY 4 "We're the highest-taxed nation in the world." (We're not.)MAY 4 "Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters." (Polls show most Americans do care.)MAY 8 "You know we've gotten billions of dollars more in NATO than we're getting. All because of me." (The deal was struck in 2014.)MAY 8 "But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was high — highest rating. The highest rating he's ever had." (Colbert's "Late Show" debut had nearly two million more viewers.)MAY 8 "Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows- there is 'no evidence' of collusion w/ Russia and Idiot." (Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)MAY 12 "Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Idiot campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election." (The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)MAY 12 "When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?" (Clapper said he wouldn't have been told of an investigation into collusion.)MAY 13 "I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed." (The cost cuts were planned before he became president.)MAY 26 "Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful. We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars and millions of jobs." (He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent deals that weren't announced on the trip.)JUNE 1 "China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can't build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020." (The agreement doesn't allow or disallow building coal plants.)JUNE 1 "I've just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs." (Idiot's figures are inflated and premature.)JUNE 4 "At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is 'no reason to be alarmed!'" (The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)JUNE 5 "The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C." (Idiot signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)JUNE 21 "They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding." (The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Idiot said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.)JUNE 21 "Right now, we are one of the highest-taxed nations in the world." (We're not.)

Minor edits by me throughout to ensure his correct name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 24, 2017, 03:29:31 PM
Well, THAT made me want to bleed out on an abandoned highway somewhere.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on June 25, 2017, 05:52:31 AM
Well, this is... something I guess?

www.trumpcarequotes.com (http://www.trumpcarequotes.com)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2017, 06:38:50 AM
Quote from: Trivial on June 25, 2017, 05:52:31 AM
Well, this is... something I guess?

www.trumpcarequotes.com (http://www.trumpcarequotes.com)

Odds on him being in on the scam?   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 30, 2017, 12:01:37 AM
"GOP-controlled House committee amends post-9/11 policy weakening president's authorized 'use of force'"

"The House GOP made the surprising move on Thursday to amend a post-9/11 law that makes presidential authorization of military force simple and streamlined."

It's starting to look like even the Republicans are getting worried.

Here's a link: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/gop-controlled-house-committee-amends-post-911-policy-weakening-presidents-authorized-use-of-force/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 30, 2017, 12:45:52 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851

Jim Roberts on Twitter: "US reportedly has intel of Russian hackers discussing how to transmit HRC emails to Gen. Flynn via an intermediary.

(Paywall, hence the tweet summary)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2017, 03:48:29 AM
Huh, that article wasn't paywalled for me.

Quote"The operation Mr. Smith described is consistent with information that has been examined by U.S. investigators probing Russian interference in the elections.

Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton's server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.

It isn't clear who that intermediary might have been or whether Mr. Smith's operation was the one allegedly under discussion by the Russian hackers. The reports were compiled during the same period when Mr. Smith's group was operating, according to the officials. "

But yes.  No wonder Flynn was so eager to obtain immunity...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
And now thanks to yet more ill advised social media use, multiple media outlets are again questioning trumps mental health and/or intellect and capabilities. So idiot instead of apologising or backtracking, gibbers on about North Korea.

I'm starting to think this is all just attention whoring on a never before seen scale. It would be interesting to see what a 48 hour lack of interest would result in. Probable results of a media blackout could be hilarious. This looks like an ego so fragile I wouldn't rule out starting a war just to force people to pretend he's actually still relevant at this point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2017, 12:34:53 AM
The WH is allegedly mulling more strikes in Syria and possibly attacks on Iran.

As I'm sure you recall, the last bombing of Syria and Afghanistan led to nearly orgasmic praise from the press.  It was actually disgusting to watch.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 01, 2017, 12:34:53 AM
The WH is allegedly mulling more strikes in Syria and possibly attacks on Iran.

As I'm sure you recall, the last bombing of Syria and Afghanistan led to nearly orgasmic praise from the press.  It was actually disgusting to watch.

Iran?

Jesus H Christ.  It's like having monkeys specifically trained to brake hard on the freeway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 01, 2017, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 01, 2017, 12:34:53 AM
The WH is allegedly mulling more strikes in Syria and possibly attacks on Iran.

As I'm sure you recall, the last bombing of Syria and Afghanistan led to nearly orgasmic praise from the press.  It was actually disgusting to watch.

Iran?

Jesus H Christ.  It's like having monkeys specifically trained to brake hard on the freeway.

"I heard Obama was pro-Westphalia, so I'm, like, really really anti-Westphalia and everything that goes along with that -- which is really bad, by the way, so bad -- because I'm, you know, much smarter and more statesmanlike."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2017, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 01, 2017, 12:34:53 AM
The WH is allegedly mulling more strikes in Syria and possibly attacks on Iran.

As I'm sure you recall, the last bombing of Syria and Afghanistan led to nearly orgasmic praise from the press.  It was actually disgusting to watch.

Iran?

Jesus H Christ.  It's like having monkeys specifically trained to brake hard on the freeway.

Just to make you feel even better, the plan was put together by allies of General Flynn on the NSC and were so crazy that noted Iran hawks McMasters and Mattis refused to sign off on them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on July 01, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
The best part about this administration by now is that it makes the violently insane people ditch their pet projects.  :lulz:

If you can get Mattis and McMasters to say "no" to an excuse to march into Iran on a road of bones, you can do /anything/, as long as its the exact opposite of what you want most.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on July 01, 2017, 04:45:56 PM
By way of example: Same thing is also happening with AHCA -- everyone's balking and passing the hot potato now that it looks like re-election is less important than not being stoned to death on public television for the deaths of millions. Trump goes, "Repeal it now!" And as near as I can tell there's a lot of sweaty foreheads and "Oh, gee, I dunno boss," in reply.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 01, 2017, 05:12:07 PM
Most presidents end up being out of touch with something, but never before has a president managed to be out of touch with literally everything and everyone, including himself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 01, 2017, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
And now thanks to yet more ill advised social media use, multiple media outlets are again questioning trumps mental health and/or intellect and capabilities. So idiot instead of apologising or backtracking, gibbers on about North Korea.

I'm starting to think this is all just attention whoring on a never before seen scale. It would be interesting to see what a 48 hour lack of interest would result in. Probable results of a media blackout could be hilarious. This looks like an ego so fragile I wouldn't rule out starting a war just to force people to pretend he's actually still relevant at this point.


This is kinda brilliant
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: 00.dusk on July 01, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
The best part about this administration by now is that it makes the violently insane people ditch their pet projects.  :lulz:

If you can get Mattis and McMasters to say "no" to an excuse to march into Iran on a road of bones, you can do /anything/, as long as its the exact opposite of what you want most.

It was an insane plan.  The essence of it was to start the war against Iran in Syria, fighting Iranian troops and Shiite militias (including Hezbollah) in the area.

Which totally wouldn't lead to the conflict engulfing Lebanon and Iraq, or drawing Russia into direct conflict against America, or causing the Syrian government to collapse, or reducing pressure on ISIS and the hardline rebel factions who would surge in the chaos.  I can see why Mattis said "fuck no".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 02, 2017, 02:55:37 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 01, 2017, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 01, 2017, 12:24:46 AM
And now thanks to yet more ill advised social media use, multiple media outlets are again questioning trumps mental health and/or intellect and capabilities. So idiot instead of apologising or backtracking, gibbers on about North Korea.

I'm starting to think this is all just attention whoring on a never before seen scale. It would be interesting to see what a 48 hour lack of interest would result in. Probable results of a media blackout could be hilarious. This looks like an ego so fragile I wouldn't rule out starting a war just to force people to pretend he's actually still relevant at this point.


This is kinda brilliant

It appeals to me. To be frank I'm sick of the news being little more than idiot and brexit as it means I must be missing heaps of shady shit that's actually of consequence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 03, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
"The Trump University case isn't over. An attorney on the case explains what's next."

As per the article:

"In a nutshell: The Ninth Circuit will have to decide if it's okay, under the due process clause of the US Constitution and the federal class-action rules, to do what the settlement did here: promise people you're going to let them opt out of any settlement and then later renege on that promise. That's the main issue. We also argue that class members should be able to see the terms of any settlement before they have to give up their claims forever."

Here's the link: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/2/15900598/trump-university-lawsuit-explained-deepak-gupta

This could be interesting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 03, 2017, 05:51:10 PM
I saw a report he's working on a Trade War, which was opposed by almost all of his cabinet. It's probably FAKE NEWS though, since everyone in the cabinet is so honored and grateful to have the opportunity to to work for him.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 04, 2017, 02:04:54 AM
What are the odds on the end of the world this x-day now that president cuckoo bananas is in power?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2017, 04:37:43 AM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 03, 2017, 05:51:10 PM
I saw a report he's working on a Trade War, which was opposed by almost all of his cabinet. It's probably FAKE NEWS though, since everyone in the cabinet is so honored and grateful to have the opportunity to to work for him.  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

A 45% tariff on Chinese steel?  It's insane. China's retaliation would bring Silicon Valley to its knees - and they'd do it, to show the costs of fucking them around.  They'd make Apple squeal in agony, just to get them onside to oppose the tariffs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 04, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
"Bannon Pushes to Hike Taxes on Wealthy"

As per this short article:

"Steve Bannon is causing a stir inside the administration by pushing an idea that's anathema to most Republicans: raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans to pay for steep middle and working-class tax cuts. (Some officials who've heard Bannon's idea think it's crazy, but the President's chief strategist believes it's a potent populist idea.)"

Here's the link: https://politicalwire.com/2017/07/03/bannon-pushes-hike-taxes-wealthy/

So, what exactly is the current GOP punishment for heresy?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 04, 2017, 10:47:48 AM
Maybe the maelstrom that is the administration might actually do something good for a change?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on July 04, 2017, 11:53:02 PM
What the FUCK happened and why the FUCK am I rooting for Stephen "Dark Enlightenment" Bannon, even if only in a highly limited case?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 05, 2017, 03:00:08 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 04, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
So, what exactly is the current GOP punishment for heresy?

For every one step to the left on taxation and fiscal policy, you have to take two steps to the right on social authoritarianism and ethnic nationalism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2017, 03:05:43 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 05, 2017, 03:00:08 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 04, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
So, what exactly is the current GOP punishment for heresy?

For every one step to the left on taxation and fiscal policy, you have to take two steps to the right on social authoritarianism and ethnic nationalism.

Okay ... and that's a punishment because?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 05, 2017, 03:12:29 AM
Well it feels like a punishment to watch.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: 00.dusk on July 05, 2017, 03:47:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 05, 2017, 03:12:29 AM
Well it feels like a punishment to watch.

It does.

I want to die screaming.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on July 05, 2017, 06:27:11 AM
So, we attacked the sea in retaliation for NK attacking the sea?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 05, 2017, 07:46:29 AM
Quote from: Trivial on July 05, 2017, 06:27:11 AM
So, we attacked the sea in retaliation for NK attacking the sea?

Oh my god! They're both Caligula! :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2017, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Trivial on July 05, 2017, 06:27:11 AM
So, we attacked the sea in retaliation for NK attacking the sea?

Aww, you make it sound silly, when you say it like that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 03:28:01 AM
I've been following this Trump tweet/CNN story, and it's getting pretty crazy.

What I don't understand is why Trump and his surrogates/supporters are so obsessed with CNN, instead of say WaPo or the NYT, whose original investigative reporting is far more damaging.  The only reason I can think is that because CNN presents an easy target - a station that no-one is especially going to go out of their way to defend, which may open the doors to more restrictions on, or at the very least intimidating other, more robust press outlets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 06, 2017, 03:33:32 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 03:28:01 AM
I've been following this Trump tweet/CNN story, and it's getting pretty crazy.

What I don't understand is why Trump and his surrogates/supporters are so obsessed with CNN, instead of say WaPo or the NYT, whose original investigative reporting is far more damaging.  The only reason I can think is that because CNN presents an easy target - a station that no-one is especially going to go out of their way to defend, which may open the doors to more restrictions on, or at the very least intimidating other, more robust press outlets.

Or he's just crazier than a shithouse rat.

He got lost walking 5 steps from his plane to his limo.  The Columbian marching powder has eaten his brain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:06:26 AM
This is true, but it doesn't explain his followers.  I mean, only so many of them can have brain damage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 06, 2017, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:06:26 AM
This is true, but it doesn't explain his followers.  I mean, only so many of them can have brain damage.

Come out past the Mississippi.

We have a bunk for you, should you ever decide to soil yourself in such a manner.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 06, 2017, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 03:28:01 AM
What I don't understand is why Trump and his surrogates/supporters are so obsessed with CNN, instead of say WaPo or the NYT, whose original investigative reporting is far more damaging. 

Also, CNN is TV, which Trump watches, rather than written news.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:12:30 PM
That's true, reading is hard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:12:30 PM
That's true, reading is hard.

Who knew it could be so complicated?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 07, 2017, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 07, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 06, 2017, 04:12:30 PM
That's true, reading is hard.

Who knew it could be so complicated?

With idiot you also have to acknowledge that his brain has a limited imagination and needs flashing pictures to work it. At this point I assume bannon has him watching TV 6+ hours a day in the comfy chair from clockwork orange.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 10, 2017, 06:02:36 PM
"BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes"

Yes, I think Chris Uhlmann nailed it, and it ain't pretty!

Here's the link: http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/brutal-australian-journalist-sums-trumps
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2017, 07:09:40 AM
Looks like Trump Jr just admitted to attempted collusion with the Russian government.

1.  Trump Jr admits meeting with the Russian lawyer because she said she had information pertaining to Clinton.
2.  Trump Jr was told in an email that the information this lawyer had came from the Russian government.

Quote from: New York TimesWASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father's candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

Mr. Goldstone's message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign.

The Russian lawyer was working on behalf of Emin Agalarov, a Russian-Azerbaijani businessman/singer and associate of Trump (Trump even appeared in one of his music videos).  However, more important is his father, Aras Agalarov, who has acted as a go-between for Putin and Trump before now.

According to the Steele dossier:

QuoteTwo knowledgeable St Petersburg sources claim Republican candidate TRUMP has paid bribes and engaged in sexual activities there but key witnesses silenced and evidence hard to obtain

- Both believe Azeri business associate of TRUMP, Araz AGALAROV will know the details
1. Speaking to a trusted compatriot in September 2016, two well-placed sources based in St Petersburg, one in the political/business elite and the other involved in the local services and tourist industry, commented on Republican US presidential candidate Donald prior activities in the city.

2. Both knew TRUMP had visited St Petersburg on several occasions in the past and had been interested in doing business deals there involving real estate. The local business/political elite figure reported that TRUMP had paid bribes there to further his interests but very discreetly and only through affiliated companies, making it very hard to prove. The local services industry source reported that TRUMP had participated in sex parties in the city too, but that all direct witnesses to this recently had been "silenced" i.e. bribed or coerced to disappear.

3. The two St Petersburg figures cited believed an Azeri business figure, Araz AGALAROV (with offices in Baku and London) had been closely involved with TRUMP in Russia and would know most of the details of what the Republican presidential candidate had got up to there
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 11, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
Well that's irrefutable proof of Russian tampering in the election, surprised Jr admitted it. Even if it's not a smoking gun proving his dad knew about it, it verifies everything Comey said, and makes trumps attempt to shut down the investigation look far worse. Having been used to Berlusconi and years and years of scandal without anything happening, is there any hope this can start the impeachment process?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2017, 11:29:51 AM
Not likely, unfortunately.  I think Trump's congressional allies would need a lot more in the way of verification and proof before starting anything like that.  And they'd probably want to wait for the Special Counsel to finish their investigation first.

I can think of at least several things with this that I'd want verification or clarification on to start impeachment proceedings, and that's as someone who wants to see Trump gone.  Trump was present at the Trump Towers on the day this meeting took place.  Was he present?  Is Mr Goldstone's claim accurate, can it be linked to any known efforts to influence the election or key players associated with such attempts?  Was Trump informed at any point before or after the meeting that an offer to help swing the election, from a purported agent of the Russian government, was made?  At what point did Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort leave these talks?  Were there any discussions regarding the repeal of the Magnitsky Act, and do these discussions constitute a violation of the Logan Act?

It's super fucking damning, from a political perspective, but it's still not enough legally.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 12, 2017, 01:11:46 AM
What makes this particularly foul is that the prize for victory is President Pence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 12, 2017, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 12, 2017, 01:11:46 AM
What makes this particularly foul is that the prize for victory is President Pence.

It's assholes all the way down. Honestly at this point I'd prefer the buffoon who can't get anything done at all due to public outrage over any one of the assholes standing in line to pick up the pieces while all the idiots on the Left are taking a nap after a "job well done".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 12, 2017, 02:49:26 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 12, 2017, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 12, 2017, 01:11:46 AM
What makes this particularly foul is that the prize for victory is President Pence.

It's assholes all the way down. Honestly at this point I'd prefer the buffoon who can't get anything done at all due to public outrage over any one of the assholes standing in line to pick up the pieces while all the idiots on the Left are taking a nap after a "job well done".

Exactly this.  Trump cannot stick to the script; Pence would be an abomination.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on July 12, 2017, 05:27:19 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f17484f357f64244ec5f41872b2b0606/tumblr_osxwotTdPf1rpf0t3o1_540.jpg)

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 12, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
Unless Pence gets snared in the investigation somehow, President Pence is always a possibility.  He's already laying the groundwork for an independent Presidential campaign - perhaps in 2020, if Trump gets taken down, but quite possibly 2024 as well.  That's a done deal - he's already hobnobbing with wealthy donors and meeting with influential groups within the Republican Party.

I'm more worried what game Steve Bannon is playing.  If Bannon is the source of some of these leaks, as I suspect he might be...beyond cutting off Trump from all advisers barring himself, I'm not sure what he thinks he is achieving.  And that worries me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 12, 2017, 12:52:22 PM
Quote from: Trivial on July 12, 2017, 05:27:19 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f17484f357f64244ec5f41872b2b0606/tumblr_osxwotTdPf1rpf0t3o1_540.jpg)

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413)

:lulz:

There's a lesson here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 12, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
I never bought into this.  But if the Special Counsel is investigating, I may have to reconsider:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article160803619.html

QuoteInvestigators at the House and Senate Intelligence committees and the Justice Department are examining whether the Trump campaign's digital operation – overseen by Jared Kushner – helped guide Russia's sophisticated voter targeting and fake news attacks on Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Congressional and Justice Department investigators are focusing on whether Trump's campaign pointed Russian cyber operatives to certain voting jurisdictions in key states – areas where Trump's digital team and Republican operatives were spotting unexpected weakness in voter support for Hillary Clinton, according to several people familiar with the parallel inquiries.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 13, 2017, 01:03:32 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 12, 2017, 12:52:22 PM
Quote from: Trivial on July 12, 2017, 05:27:19 AM
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f17484f357f64244ec5f41872b2b0606/tumblr_osxwotTdPf1rpf0t3o1_540.jpg)

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413)

:lulz:

There's a lesson here.

This is how you manufacture normalcy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2017, 04:30:18 AM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-gop-operative-cited-flynn-clinton-emails-suicide

QuotePeter W. Smith, the Republican operative who sought to obtain and publicize emails he thought were stolen from Hillary Clinton's private server, committed suicide days after he told a reporter about his efforts, according to the Chicago Tribune.

The Chicago Tribune reported Thursday night, citing a Minnesota state death record filed in Olmsted County, that Smith killed himself on May 14 days after he talked to the Wall Street Journal about his hunt for Clinton's emails. That account was also included in a medical examiner's report and a Rochester police report, according to the Tribune.

Smith left a statement police referred to as a suicide note, according to the report, in which he said there was "NO FOUL PLAY WHATSOEVER" involved in his death.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2017, 04:30:18 AM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-gop-operative-cited-flynn-clinton-emails-suicide

Quotea suicide note, according to the report, in which he said there was "NO FOUL PLAY WHATSOEVER" involved in his death.


Man, assassins are getting lazy these days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
Well, I mean, none of the Trump's have tweeted out the contract yet...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2017, 03:55:54 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851

QuoteThe Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. and others on the Trump team after a promise of compromising material on Hillary Clinton was accompanied by a Russian-American lobbyist — a former Soviet counterintelligence officer who is suspected by some U.S. officials of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, NBC News has learned.

The lobbyist, who denies any current ties to Russian spy agencies, accompanied the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, to the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law; and Paul Manafort, former chairman of the Trump campaign.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 14, 2017, 07:06:30 PM
At this stage, I'm expecting idiot to die about halfway through the inevitable court cases. That some of this crap makes it to court is bound to happen and the trial will probably be longer than the investigations which are looking to go on to at least the end of the year.

Which is about as close as we will get to "justice".

In other news, idiots lawyer apologies for telling a pr goon to "fuck off" and various threats when advised that representing idiot may not be wise. I'm actually surprised about this one, I expected his LAWYERS to be halfway competent. This does not bode well for when he does end up in court.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 15, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
I somehow missed this article about the Trump Crime Family when it first appeared.

"Trump Aides: Russia Flap Proves Don Jr. Is the 'Fredo' of the First Family"

As per the article, "Ever since the campaign, a popular, behind-his-back nickname for Trump Jr. among some in his father's political inner circle has been "Fredo," referring to Fredo Corleone, the insecure and weak failure of a son in The Godfather series who ends up causing major damage to the crime family and contributing little of value. This has been relayed to The Daily Beast in several stories by Team Trump veterans over the past several weeks."

Here's the link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-aides-russia-flap-proves-don-jr-is-the-fredo-of-the-first-family
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 14, 2017, 07:06:30 PM
In other news, idiots lawyer apologies for telling a pr goon to "fuck off" and various threats when advised that representing idiot may not be wise. I'm actually surprised about this one, I expected his LAWYERS to be halfway competent. This does not bode well for when he does end up in court.

Nope, his lawyer is actually pretty bad.  In fact, I think this provocation was staged - he can't get a security clearance and Trump is blaming him for not defending him sufficiently well on the Russia issue.  He wants to walk, but he can't - so he's looking to get fired instead.

Kushner's lawyer also quit - apparently some conflict of interest with the Assistant Deputy AG.  Also because he's guilty as fuck.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on July 15, 2017, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 14, 2017, 07:06:30 PM
In other news, idiots lawyer apologies for telling a pr goon to "fuck off" and various threats when advised that representing idiot may not be wise. I'm actually surprised about this one, I expected his LAWYERS to be halfway competent. This does not bode well for when he does end up in court.

Nope, his lawyer is actually pretty bad.  In fact, I think this provocation was staged - he can't get a security clearance and Trump is blaming him for not defending him sufficiently well on the Russia issue.  He wants to walk, but he can't - so he's looking to get fired instead.

Kushner's lawyer also quit - apparently some conflict of interest with the Assistant Deputy AG.  Also because he's guilty as fuck.

Well. That's... something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 15, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2017, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 14, 2017, 07:06:30 PM
In other news, idiots lawyer apologies for telling a pr goon to "fuck off" and various threats when advised that representing idiot may not be wise. I'm actually surprised about this one, I expected his LAWYERS to be halfway competent. This does not bode well for when he does end up in court.

Nope, his lawyer is actually pretty bad.  In fact, I think this provocation was staged - he can't get a security clearance and Trump is blaming him for not defending him sufficiently well on the Russia issue.  He wants to walk, but he can't - so he's looking to get fired instead.

Kushner's lawyer also quit - apparently some conflict of interest with the Assistant Deputy AG.  Also because he's guilty as fuck.

I've not actually bothered to look at any of the lawyers involved so far in any detail. The odds are exponentially increasing that a Saul Goodman or two is in the mix at this point. Which could lead to all kinds of fun. Are any of them in particular worth catching up on? From what you've said, I'd guess Kushners is for sure.

There's more developing on the Clinton info meeting too, looks like it was pretty close to a small conference.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 21, 2017, 06:26:28 PM
"Trump team seeks to control, block Mueller's Russia investigation"

And, as per the article: "Trump has asked his advisers about his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself in connection with the probe, according to one of those people. A second person said Trump's lawyers have been discussing the president's pardoning powers among themselves."

Here's the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyers-seek-to-undercut-muellers-russia-investigation/2017/07/20/232ebf2c-6d71-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumplegal-925pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c93edf539bc7

Those are not the kind of questions a powerful, wealthy, innocent man ever needs to ask.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 21, 2017, 06:51:44 PM
Spicers gone  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 21, 2017, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 21, 2017, 06:51:44 PM
Spicers gone  :lulz:

What?   :lulz:

I have been at a funeral all day and missed the fun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2017, 08:59:23 PM
Spicer quit over the new WH Communications Director.  He's some investment banker friend of Trump with no background in corporate or government communications.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 21, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2017, 08:59:23 PM
Spicer quit over the new WH Communications Director.  He's some investment banker friend of Trump with no background in corporate or government communications.

:lulz:

This just makes it tastier.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 25, 2017, 12:25:36 AM
Kushners thrown up an 11 page statement written by lawyers explaining hedidntdonuffineverhonestguv. Sincerely unimpressed by the lawyer/s that have produced it. Very shoddy work. Long rambling explanations, parts bolder, telling them their conclusions, it's just a mess.

On the plus side, it's another thing in the pile of things said that can and will eventually be used against you in court.

There's an almost tragic element to this all round now. Idiot will be dead or too infirm to do fuck all by the time this crap is officially declassified. His kids will be elderly at best and subject to a new round of scorn. Any grandkids/that young kid gets to be a worldwide laughing stock. 3 Euros on the young kid changing his name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 25, 2017, 02:53:56 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 25, 2017, 12:25:36 AM
Kushners thrown up an 11 page statement written by lawyers explaining hedidntdonuffineverhonestguv. Sincerely unimpressed by the lawyer/s that have produced it. Very shoddy work. Long rambling explanations, parts bolder, telling them their conclusions, it's just a mess.

On the plus side, it's another thing in the pile of things said that can and will eventually be used against you in court.

There's an almost tragic element to this all round now. Idiot will be dead or too infirm to do fuck all by the time this crap is officially declassified. His kids will be elderly at best and subject to a new round of scorn. Any grandkids/that young kid gets to be a worldwide laughing stock. 3 Euros on the young kid changing his name.

I'll see that against a top quality previously owned plastic spoon that he doesn't. The name Trump is now historic and hyper recognized. Shit he could grow up to be president himself one day on a "better than my dad" platform right around when I turn 70ish.

I'll probably lose the spoon on this bet, but Baron Trump is my favorite Trump. The only one I really have any sympathy for.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2017, 04:25:11 AM
Can we take a moment to appreciate that amid all this clamor for his impeachment (okay, less than half the country technically supports impeachment, but to even have the word uttered out in the open has to tell you something), Donald Tiberius Trump has floated the idea of just... impeaching himself? I feel like we are not stopping long enough to bask in the awe of this moment. Maybe the endless clatter of shoes dropping has got us all wandering around in a daze, as shocked and deafened as Gene Simmons at an actual rock concert, but the headline "President Tormented by Scandal, Threats of Impeachment Deigns to Just Pardon Himself and Move On" should not be "just another Thursday." Not even in this universe where it turns out the dark energy pulling everything apart is actually a vast reservoir of naturally-occurring post-modernism.

The hilarious part is that even the experts -- real ones, not the kind who print a PhD from Kinko's and get a seven-figure job at Fox News to pinch interns' asses, broadcast a hurricane of hate to everyone in the country, and ruin anyone who tries to stop them -- even the experts are scratching their heads. The best they can offer is "It'll be interesting to see what the courts make of that, if he tries it." That's right. The law itself does not specifically prohibit such a thing. Why? Well, because back when they wrote the Constitution and for about 200 years after that, there was no need to. Obviously, an impeached president (or one facing imminent impeachment) could not just pardon himself and walk away unscathed. At no point did anyone think "what if there is someone so vile, he'd try to pardon himself?" Just like they didn't think "What if there were so many idiots in the country, that he might get away with it?"

That sound you hear is the sound of the great United States of America slipping below the "goes without saying" threshold. It's also the sound of a very tenacious evil literally slipping between the seams of this thing called "society" that we have built for ourselves. Well, that we live in, anyway. Like a thief into a tent. Trump has managed -- whether out of sheer stupidity and dumb luck, or by maniacal plotting, it doesn't really matter which -- to illuminate a glaring gap in the threads of our civilization.  He may not even have to break any laws. HA!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 25, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
Idiot delivered another campaign speech, this time to the National Scout Jamboree. He, of course, took the opportunity to brag about himself, shit on Obama and Clinton, repeatedly complain about "fake media", and "fake news", and talk about "killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us".

He even got in a quick jab about "loyalty".
How could he resist? It's in their motto, ferchrissakes!

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Ge_HEeIuI


Transcript:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/


QuoteI'm waving to people back there so small I can't even see them. Man, this is a lot of people. Turn those cameras back there, please. That is so incredible.
By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?
(APPLAUSE)
The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news.



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 25, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
Idiot delivered another campaign speech, this time to the National Scout Jamboree. He, of course, took the opportunity to brag about himself, shit on Obama and Clinton, repeatedly complain about "fake media", and "fake news", and talk about "killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us".

He even got in a quick jab about "loyalty".
How could he resist? It's in their motto, ferchrissakes!

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Ge_HEeIuI


Transcript:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/


QuoteI'm waving to people back there so small I can't even see them. Man, this is a lot of people. Turn those cameras back there, please. That is so incredible.
By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?
(APPLAUSE)
The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news.
Yeah, and he got the Boy Scouts to boo Obama, because that's how fragile his ego is. He can't manage simple graciousness, like, at all.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 25, 2017, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 25, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
Idiot delivered another campaign speech, this time to the National Scout Jamboree. He, of course, took the opportunity to brag about himself, shit on Obama and Clinton, repeatedly complain about "fake media", and "fake news", and talk about "killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us".

He even got in a quick jab about "loyalty".
How could he resist? It's in their motto, ferchrissakes!

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Ge_HEeIuI


Transcript:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/


QuoteI'm waving to people back there so small I can't even see them. Man, this is a lot of people. Turn those cameras back there, please. That is so incredible.
By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?
(APPLAUSE)
The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news.
Yeah, and he got the Boy Scouts to boo Obama, because that's how fragile his ego is. He can't manage simple graciousness, like, at all.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

The crowd's eagerness to go along with it is probably the most disturbing part. Keep in mind these are the people who decided to stay after the changes in LGBT policy. I don't know how much it affected them nationwide, but according to a friend in my hometown who has kids in scouts, when the new policy was announced half the troop dropped out.

I'd like to find a video taken either of the crowd, or from inside the crowd to get a better gauge of reactions. Clearly, many felt Idiot's remarks were worth cheering, but I can see how those who felt differently might consider actively booing a guest speaker to be unscoutly, or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 25, 2017, 04:17:12 PM
Here's a few seconds of the crowd as he walks out. Looks like most of the people who aren't flailing their arms in excitement are the ones holding cameras. We may have to wait until those people get home from the party to see that footage. Uploading a 40 minute speech eats up a lot of data, and the wi-fi there is probably shit to non-existant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FudpTJaBeU
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 25, 2017, 04:45:54 PM
Here's one from some kid with a phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rLZJD_LksA

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 26, 2017, 06:02:35 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 25, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
Idiot delivered another campaign speech, this time to the National Scout Jamboree. He, of course, took the opportunity to brag about himself, shit on Obama and Clinton, repeatedly complain about "fake media", and "fake news", and talk about "killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us".

He even got in a quick jab about "loyalty".
How could he resist? It's in their motto, ferchrissakes!

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Ge_HEeIuI


Transcript:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/


QuoteI'm waving to people back there so small I can't even see them. Man, this is a lot of people. Turn those cameras back there, please. That is so incredible.
By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?
(APPLAUSE)
The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news.

I don't have the stomach for it, but my wife watched Trump's entire speech. She told me it reminded her of a Hitler Youth Rally.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 26, 2017, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 26, 2017, 06:02:35 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 25, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
Idiot delivered another campaign speech, this time to the National Scout Jamboree. He, of course, took the opportunity to brag about himself, shit on Obama and Clinton, repeatedly complain about "fake media", and "fake news", and talk about "killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us".

He even got in a quick jab about "loyalty".
How could he resist? It's in their motto, ferchrissakes!

Full Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Ge_HEeIuI


Transcript:

http://time.com/4872118/trump-boy-scout-jamboree-speech-transcript/


QuoteI'm waving to people back there so small I can't even see them. Man, this is a lot of people. Turn those cameras back there, please. That is so incredible.
By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?
(APPLAUSE)
The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news.

I don't have the stomach for it, but my wife watched Trump's entire speech. She told me it reminded her of a Hitler Youth Rally.

A lot of people are making that comparison. Maybe more of a pre=Jugendbund, than full blown Hitlerjugend.

You get a better feel of the crowd with that last link I posted of the video from some kid's phone. You can really hear the cracking of the voices of the pubescent youths screaming maniacally for their fuhrer. It wasn't all shouting, though. There were times the crowd got so quiet you could hear a testicle drop.

Also, at about 11 minutes (on both videos, the phone video is about 10 seconds ahead of the full video), he tries to say "road to American success", but instead says "road to American sex". As you can imagine, there was snickering and murmuring. You can't hear that on the full video.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 26, 2017, 02:38:03 PM
Mattis and tillerson taking breaks while representatives refuse to state that they are happy in their jobs.

So idiot, of course, bans any transgender folk from the military. Makes perfect sense.

As to the scouts speech, add it to the pile of evidence of senility that can and will eventually be used against him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 26, 2017, 03:45:28 PM
Hey now, it's perfectly possible some of those Boy Scouts voted for him.  America is apparently awash in fake IDs allowing people to vote, according to Trump. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 26, 2017, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 26, 2017, 03:45:28 PM
Hey now, it's perfectly possible some of those Boy Scouts voted for him.  America is apparently awash in fake IDs allowing people to vote, according to Trump.

I should get me some a them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 26, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
(((Soros))) can totally hook you up, once he's done undermining Poland and Hungary

In other news, I hear Trump gave a speech where he basically described how evil (((rapists))) cut young girls apart in graphic detail, and sounded more like a Nazi than ever before. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 26, 2017, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 26, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
(((Soros))) can totally hook you up, once he's done undermining Poland and Hungary

In other news, I hear Trump gave a speech where he basically described how evil (((rapists))) cut young girls apart in graphic detail, and sounded more like a Nazi than ever before.

Yeah. This one from last night in Ohio.

Immigrants "slicing and dicing":

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-immigrant-gang-members-slice-and-dice-young-beautiful-girls-642046


Full speech:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/25/trump-youngstown-rally-full-speech.cnn
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 26, 2017, 08:29:35 PM
Thanks, I've been on the move all day, and mostly without internet access, so I've only seen headlines and fragments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 28, 2017, 04:31:09 AM
Ryan Lizza
Anthony Scaramucci Called Me to Unload About White House Leakers, Reince Priebus, and Steve Bannon
He started by threatening to fire the entire White House communications staff. It escalated from there. (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/anthony-scaramucci-called-me-to-unload-about-white-house-leakers-reince-priebus-and-steve-bannon)

QuoteOn Wednesday night, I received a phone call from Anthony Scaramucci, the new White House communications director. He wasn't happy. Earlier in the night, I'd tweeted, citing a "senior White House official," that Scaramucci was having dinner at the White House with President Trump, the First Lady, Sean Hannity, and the former Fox News executive Bill Shine. It was an interesting group, and raised some questions. Was Trump getting strategic advice from Hannity? Was he considering hiring Shine? But Scaramucci had his own question—for me.

QuoteI asked him why it was so important for the dinner to be kept a secret. Surely, I said, it would become public at some point. "I've asked people not to leak things for a period of time and give me a honeymoon period," he said. "They won't do it." He was getting more and more worked up, and he eventually convinced himself that Priebus was my source.
"They'll all be fired by me," he said. "I fired one guy the other day. I have three to four people I'll fire tomorrow. I'll get to the person who leaked that to you. Reince Priebus—if you want to leak something—he'll be asked to resign very shortly." The issue, he said, was that he believed Priebus had been worried about the dinner because he hadn't been invited. "Reince is a fucking paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac," Scaramucci said. He channelled Priebus as he spoke: " 'Oh, Bill Shine is coming in. Let me leak the fucking thing and see if I can cock-block these people the way I cock-blocked Scaramucci for six months.' " (Priebus did not respond to a request for comment.)

QuoteScaramucci also told me that, unlike other senior officials, he had no interest in media attention. "I'm not Steve Bannon, I'm not trying to suck my own cock," he said, speaking of Trump's chief strategist. "I'm not trying to build my own brand off the fucking strength of the President. I'm here to serve the country." (Bannon declined to comment.)


srsly though...the whole thing....
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 28, 2017, 02:47:27 PM
That must be some really good cocaine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 29, 2017, 12:59:08 AM
Prebius gone, new crazy yes man blamed him for any and all leaks.

Which rat will flee (or be thrown off) the sinking ship next?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2017, 01:54:25 AM

Mark this date: Donald Trump is now a lame-duck president
By Steven Pearlstein
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/28/mark-this-date-donald-trump-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/)
QuoteRemember this day, July 28, 2017: The day Donald Trump became a lame duck president. More significantly, the day the tea party revolution ended and Washington began the return to "regular order."

The coup de grâce came at 1:30 a.m. on the Senate floor as John McCain became the third Republican to break ranks and defeat the third attempt to repeal Obamacare, which embodied the Democrats' promise that all Americans could — and should — have health insurance at a price they could afford. It was, as tea party Republicans had warned, another expensive government entitlement that, once granted, could never be taken away. Now McCain had acknowledged that political reality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: QueenThera on July 29, 2017, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 29, 2017, 01:54:25 AM

Mark this date: Donald Trump is now a lame-duck president
By Steven Pearlstein
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/28/mark-this-date-donald-trump-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/)
QuoteRemember this day, July 28, 2017: The day Donald Trump became a lame duck president. More significantly, the day the tea party revolution ended and Washington began the return to "regular order."

The coup de grâce came at 1:30 a.m. on the Senate floor as John McCain became the third Republican to break ranks and defeat the third attempt to repeal Obamacare, which embodied the Democrats' promise that all Americans could — and should — have health insurance at a price they could afford. It was, as tea party Republicans had warned, another expensive government entitlement that, once granted, could never be taken away. Now McCain had acknowledged that political reality.
That article is full of hope and I want to believe it.

So what are they glossing over? What are they lying about?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2017, 03:54:58 AM
Quote from: QueenThera on July 29, 2017, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 29, 2017, 01:54:25 AM

Mark this date: Donald Trump is now a lame-duck president
By Steven Pearlstein
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/28/mark-this-date-donald-trump-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/)
QuoteRemember this day, July 28, 2017: The day Donald Trump became a lame duck president. More significantly, the day the tea party revolution ended and Washington began the return to "regular order."

The coup de grâce came at 1:30 a.m. on the Senate floor as John McCain became the third Republican to break ranks and defeat the third attempt to repeal Obamacare, which embodied the Democrats' promise that all Americans could — and should — have health insurance at a price they could afford. It was, as tea party Republicans had warned, another expensive government entitlement that, once granted, could never be taken away. Now McCain had acknowledged that political reality.
That article is full of hope and I want to believe it.

So what are they glossing over? What are they lying about?

Well...a win for the GOP is a loss for the middle/lower classes (as exemplified by this recent healthcare catastrophe). So not much hope from what I can tell but, at the very least, we can enjoy the pickings of a good show.   
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 29, 2017, 07:34:46 AM
Quote from: QueenThera on July 29, 2017, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 29, 2017, 01:54:25 AM

Mark this date: Donald Trump is now a lame-duck president
By Steven Pearlstein
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/28/mark-this-date-donald-trump-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/)
QuoteRemember this day, July 28, 2017: The day Donald Trump became a lame duck president. More significantly, the day the tea party revolution ended and Washington began the return to "regular order."

The coup de grâce came at 1:30 a.m. on the Senate floor as John McCain became the third Republican to break ranks and defeat the third attempt to repeal Obamacare, which embodied the Democrats' promise that all Americans could — and should — have health insurance at a price they could afford. It was, as tea party Republicans had warned, another expensive government entitlement that, once granted, could never be taken away. Now McCain had acknowledged that political reality.
That article is full of hope and I want to believe it.

So what are they glossing over? What are they lying about?

What it's missing is the slightest whisper of attachment to reality. McCain didn't decide that the Tea Party has finally gone too far or too long.  He refused to support the bill not in some grand gesture of returning to sanity, but because it did not go far enough in trampling the poor and disadvantaged. Like Rand Paul, his opposition is a statement that we need to not only strip access to health services to the poor, but also their last waning hope of ever having it. He did not acknowledge some kind of political reality where the ACA must remain in place because it's too hard to take it away. He simply joined a (growing) chorus singing "the system is not yet rigged enough against the poor."

The Tea Party revolution isn't dead. It's growing roots that will last for generations. It's maturing, learning how to play the game in Washington, and setting itself up for permanent primacy. Considering how hopelessly gerrymandered the country's Congressional districts are, there's absolutely no reason to have a hopegasm like the one that article indulges itself in. There are ways to thwart it, or at least mitigate the damage it causes, but every one of those ways begins with dumping this cheerleading peptalk bullshit immediately.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 29, 2017, 07:34:46 AM
Quote from: QueenThera on July 29, 2017, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 29, 2017, 01:54:25 AM

Mark this date: Donald Trump is now a lame-duck president
By Steven Pearlstein
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/28/mark-this-date-donald-trump-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/)
QuoteRemember this day, July 28, 2017: The day Donald Trump became a lame duck president. More significantly, the day the tea party revolution ended and Washington began the return to "regular order."

The coup de grâce came at 1:30 a.m. on the Senate floor as John McCain became the third Republican to break ranks and defeat the third attempt to repeal Obamacare, which embodied the Democrats' promise that all Americans could — and should — have health insurance at a price they could afford. It was, as tea party Republicans had warned, another expensive government entitlement that, once granted, could never be taken away. Now McCain had acknowledged that political reality.
That article is full of hope and I want to believe it.

So what are they glossing over? What are they lying about?

What it's missing is the slightest whisper of attachment to reality. McCain didn't decide that the Tea Party has finally gone too far or too long.  He refused to support the bill not in some grand gesture of returning to sanity, but because it did not go far enough in trampling the poor and disadvantaged. Like Rand Paul, his opposition is a statement that we need to not only strip access to health services to the poor, but also their last waning hope of ever having it. He did not acknowledge some kind of political reality where the ACA must remain in place because it's too hard to take it away. He simply joined a (growing) chorus singing "the system is not yet rigged enough against the poor."

The Tea Party revolution isn't dead. It's growing roots that will last for generations. It's maturing, learning how to play the game in Washington, and setting itself up for permanent primacy. Considering how hopelessly gerrymandered the country's Congressional districts are, there's absolutely no reason to have a hopegasm like the one that article indulges itself in. There are ways to thwart it, or at least mitigate the damage it causes, but every one of those ways begins with dumping this cheerleading peptalk bullshit immediately.

Nice reply--regarding the gerrymandering, hopefully something good will come of this (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-partisan-gerrymandering/index.html).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 29, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
I don't know the reputation of the 'researchers,' so I wouldn't accept the following article at face value. Still, I did find it amusing.

"What do Trump's tweets say about his personality?"

"Researchers analyze tweets of Donald J. Trump and compare his personality traits with other influential business leaders"

As per the article (bold type mine): "Their results indicate that Trump is indeed a distinct type of person who shows strong features of a so-called Schumpeterian personality that is said to be typical of successful entrepreneurs. This personality was described by Joseph Schumpeter in the 1930s as being very creative, change-orientated, competitive and rule-breaking. The analysis further indicates that Trump has neurotic tendencies, and experiences underlying low well-being."

Here's the link: http://www.springer.com/gp/about-springer/media/research-news/all-english-research-news/what-do-trump-s-tweets-say-about-his-personality--/13326212
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
The Mooch is out after 10 days as communications chief for the White House.

Please clap don't suck your own cock like Steve Bannon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 31, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
The Mooch is out after 10 days as communications chief for the White House.

Please clap don't suck your own cock like Steve Bannon.

That's amazing.  It's like watching the demolition of an old casino in slow motion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Even better, the rumour is that Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump was concerned at The Mooch's vulgarity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 31, 2017, 11:41:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Even better, the rumour is that Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump was concerned at The Mooch's vulgarity.

I can't stop laughing. I can't even decide which thing is funnier.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on July 31, 2017, 11:44:41 PM
"Spinal Tap Drummers last longer than Trump Communications Directors" 

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2017, 01:11:57 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 31, 2017, 11:41:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:18:49 PM
Even better, the rumour is that Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump was concerned at The Mooch's vulgarity.

I can't stop laughing. I can't even decide which thing is funnier.

He also apparently pissed off General Kelly, the new Chief of Staff.  The Mooch thought he reported directly to Trump, Kelly disagreed.  And then fired him (Bannon may have also played a role in this, but I'm starting to suspect Bannon pays interns to tell the White House that he is behind everything there because it adds to his sinister mystique - a mystique the Mooch accurately summarised with his "sucking his own cock" comment).

Of course, firing the guy who helped oust the previous guy who held your position isn't exactly a stupid move either.  It doesn't bode well for Kushner and Ivanka though - they wanted Preibus out and the Mooch in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 01, 2017, 04:05:18 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 31, 2017, 08:03:38 PM
The Mooch is out after 10 days as communications chief for the White House.

Please clap don't suck your own cock like Steve Bannon.

6 days, actually, and was never actually confirmed or anything.  His direct deposit wasn't even in effect yet, and so he has to wait for the Treasury department to cut a check.  Anyone in the USA knows what that means.

And he was more or less perp-walked out of the white house by secret service agents, which is fucking priceless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2017, 10:50:29 AM
His start date was August 15th according to the White House, so he has -15 days in office.  Does that mean he needs to pay the American people a cheque?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: QueenThera on August 01, 2017, 10:45:14 PM
http://huffp.st/ur3xn1q

Evidently there was some real big stuff going on during the Mooch fiasco.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 02, 2017, 03:21:18 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2017, 10:50:29 AM
His start date was August 15th according to the White House, so he has -15 days in office.  Does that mean he needs to pay the American people a cheque?

I stand corrected.

I have been here like 15 years and I still get owned when I challenge you.  I will one day learn.

BUT TODAY IS NOT THAT DAY!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 02, 2017, 03:01:28 PM
I got it wrong initially too.  Fortunately the political junkies I follow on Twitter (ie; people who are all terrorism professionals yet tweet endlessly about Trump) set me straight.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 02, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
http://potusstaff.com/coequally-duplicit-branch-of-government.html


Now i'm not one to fully trust this group but they do bring up an interesting point.

In short they're suggesting the president is going to pocket veto the Russian sanctions by simply waiting out until congress recesses.  Then they repubs can go back to their constituents talking about how they oppose election meddling but still fall in line.

ETA: and he just signed it.  so nm folks
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 02, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
Trump Signs Russian Sanctions Into Law, With Caveats (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/world/europe/trump-russia-sanctions.html)

Quote
WASHINGTON — President Trump signed legislation on Wednesday imposing sanctions on Russia and limiting his own authority to lift them, but asserted that the measure included "a number of clearly unconstitutional provisions" and left open the possibility that he might choose not to enforce them as lawmakers intended.

QuoteBut a signing statement released by the president raised questions about how he would observe the requirements in the measure.

In particular, he objected to Congress interfering with the president's power to set foreign policy by imposing waiting periods before he can suspend or remove sanctions and by effectively subverting his right to recognize foreign governments, including their territorial boundaries, clearly a reference to Russia's seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 02, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 29, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
I don't know the reputation of the 'researchers,' so I wouldn't accept the following article at face value. Still, I did find it amusing.

"What do Trump's tweets say about his personality?"

"Researchers analyze tweets of Donald J. Trump and compare his personality traits with other influential business leaders"

As per the article (bold type mine): "Their results indicate that Trump is indeed a distinct type of person who shows strong features of a so-called Schumpeterian personality that is said to be typical of successful entrepreneurs. This personality was described by Joseph Schumpeter in the 1930s as being very creative, change-orientated, competitive and rule-breaking. The analysis further indicates that Trump has neurotic tendencies, and experiences underlying low well-being."

Here's the link: http://www.springer.com/gp/about-springer/media/research-news/all-english-research-news/what-do-trump-s-tweets-say-about-his-personality--/13326212

What do you want to bet that "Schumpeterian personality" turns out have basically the same definition as one of the Cluster B personality disorders?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 02, 2017, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 02, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 29, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
I don't know the reputation of the 'researchers,' so I wouldn't accept the following article at face value. Still, I did find it amusing.

"What do Trump's tweets say about his personality?"

"Researchers analyze tweets of Donald J. Trump and compare his personality traits with other influential business leaders"

As per the article (bold type mine): "Their results indicate that Trump is indeed a distinct type of person who shows strong features of a so-called Schumpeterian personality that is said to be typical of successful entrepreneurs. This personality was described by Joseph Schumpeter in the 1930s as being very creative, change-orientated, competitive and rule-breaking. The analysis further indicates that Trump has neurotic tendencies, and experiences underlying low well-being."

Here's the link: http://www.springer.com/gp/about-springer/media/research-news/all-english-research-news/what-do-trump-s-tweets-say-about-his-personality--/13326212

What do you want to bet that "Schumpeterian personality" turns out have basically the same definition as one of the Cluster B personality disorders?

1.) Cluster B Personality disorders vary widely across each of the Big Five Personality traits - the traits that were measured in the study Brother Mythos linked to.
2.) The implication that one can detect if Trump (Or anyone else, for that matter) is likely to have any type of disorder by simply measuring his Big Five Personality traits is absurd, because they are too general and unspecific to implicate symptoms outlined in the DSM.
3.) The "Schumpeterian Personality" is simply a configuration of the Big Five Personality traits that they've found to be in successful entrepreneurs. If anything, the article is a compliment to Trump, implying that he'd be a successful entrepreneur, assuming he wasn't already rich, and assuming he is even what Schumpeter would consider an Entrepreneur, which he is not.

Schumpeter insisted that there was a difference between an entrepreneur and a capitalist (Or what we often refer to as an entrepreneur these days). An entrepreneur was said by Schumpeter to be someone who was an industry expert, who managed multiple levels and columns of a business at once. A guy who pays other people to do all of the thinking is not an entrepreneur according to the Economist they are quoting and referencing. Such would be a Capitalist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on August 04, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/ (https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 04, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
"Former Trump adviser Carter Page under FISA warrant since 2014: Report"

As per the article: "Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to during President Trump's campaign, has been the subject of a foreign surveillance warrant since 2014."

"It was previously reported that Page had been under surveillance since last summer, after he left the campaign."

Here's the link: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/former-trump-adviser-carter-page-under-fisa-warrant-since-2014-report/article/2630576

So, Special Counsel Robert Mueller may already have a lot of wiretap information in hand in his investigation of the inner workings of the Trump Crime Family.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
We know that Carter Page was being handled by an "attache" at the Russian Embassy in Washington.  And even he thought Page was an idiot, as per an email exchange he had with a colleague (in the same conversation he noted that Page was in and out of Moscow more than he was).

The chances of Page having done something incriminating without leaving an evidence trail is practically zero.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 05, 2017, 02:44:33 AM
Trump Has Quietly Accomplished More Than It Appears
The chaos, legislative fumbling, and legal jeopardy should not obscure the ways that the administration is remaking federal policy in consequential ways.
(https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/what-trump-is-actually-accomplishing/535458/)
QuoteWith the Trump administration's chaos sucking up all the attention, it's been able to move forward on a range of its priorities, which tend to be more focused on regulatory matters anyway. It is remaking the justice system, rewriting environmental rules, overhauling public-lands administration, and greenlighting major infrastructure projects. It is appointing figures who will guarantee the triumph of its ideological vision for decades to come.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 08, 2017, 02:42:15 AM
BTW, a NSC staffer was basically parrotting Breivik until McMasters shitcanned him

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/a-national-security-council-staffer-is-forced-out-over-a-controversial-memo/535725/

You seriously need to read this.  An NSC staffer wrote an official memo (which Trump may have read), alleging that Marxists, Islamists, bankers and the "deep state" are trying to take Trump down through "Maoist insurgent warfare".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on August 08, 2017, 03:22:53 AM
If trump DID read that, it's worrying. He's seeming like the type who believes things that are equal to or more intense than his own world view.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 08, 2017, 04:33:44 AM
On the plus side, I doubt Trump has the attention span to make it past the first paragraph of that memo.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 08, 2017, 04:34:30 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on August 08, 2017, 04:33:44 AM
On the plus side, I doubt Trump has the attention span to make it past the first paragraph of that memo.

True. On the negative side, though, is that Trump is a useful idiot to the people who are moving into position and will be taking the reigns of actual power shortly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2017, 09:56:14 AM
QuoteGlobalists and Islamists recognize that for their visions to succeed, America, both as an ideal and as a national and political identity, must be destroyed.

Not entirely sure America requires any assistance for this to happen. Seems to be more than capable of imploding on it's own :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 08, 2017, 10:32:35 PM
Trump White House weighs unprecedented plan to privatize much of the war in Afghanistan
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/08/war-afghanistan-trump-white-house-weighs-bold-plan-privatize/548004001/)

QuoteUnder the proposal, 5,500 private contractors, primarily former Special Operations troops, would advise Afghan combat forces. The plan also includes a 90-plane private air force that would provide air support in the nearly 16-year-old war against Taliban insurgents, Erik Prince, founder of the Blackwater security firm, told USA TODAY.

QuoteThe plan remains under serious consideration within the White House despite misgivings by Trump's national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, an Army three-star general, and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. Other White House officials, such as chief strategist Stephen Bannon, appear open to using private contractors.

QuotePrince, who has met frequently with administration officials to discuss his plan, is the brother of Trump's education secretary, Betsy Devos.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 09, 2017, 12:26:34 AM
Oh, shit.

This is how a great dystopian novel starts. I would like to think that the US military would be against essentially privatising war but there's plus sides that they can't dismiss. Such as a cushy job warlording after retirement from service.

  If this is idiots long term game, I'm bright green. So the question becomes how much does prince have on idiot? If blackwater or whatever it's called now put a fraction of effort into any kind of surveillance in the last 10 years they've probably got plenty of blackmail material. An affair or two at a minimum should be expected. Defense will probably involve the word "Clinton".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 09, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
FBI did a dawn raid on Paul Manafort's home 2 weeks ago.  Had a search warrant too, despite Manafort "fully cooperating" with their investigation.

Meanwhile, the Donald is throwing about threats of nuclear war with North Korea.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 09, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 09, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
FBI did a dawn raid on Paul Manafort's home 2 weeks ago.  Had a search warrant too, despite Manafort "fully cooperating" with their investigation.

Meanwhile, the Donald is throwing about threats of nuclear war with North Korea.

So...Wednesday

Also:
@TheOnion :: Paul Manafort Spends Afternoon Making House Look Presentable For Next FBI Raid https://t.co/gt5cvJLZsz https://t.co/BvQRfozYZt
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 10, 2017, 04:31:31 AM
"Trump White House weighs unprecedented plan to privatize much of the war in Afghanistan"

As per the article: "The White House is actively considering a bold plan to turn over a big chunk of the U.S. war in Afghanistan to private contractors in an effort to turn the tide in a stalemated war, according to the former head of a security firm pushing the project."

"Under the proposal, 5,500 private contractors, primarily former Special Operations troops, would advise Afghan combat forces. The plan also includes a 90-plane private air force that would provide air support in the nearly 16-year-old war against Taliban insurgents, Erik Prince, founder of the Blackwater security firm, told USA TODAY."

Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/08/war-afghanistan-trump-white-house-weighs-bold-plan-privatize/548004001/

I would like someone to ask the White House the following question:

If the Afghan War is privatized, what is the incentive for private contractors to win and end the war?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 10, 2017, 05:27:39 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on August 10, 2017, 04:31:31 AM


If the Afghan War is privatized, what is the incentive for private contractors to win and end the war?

You ask too many questions, citizen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 10, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/

QuoteNearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 10, 2017, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 10, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/

QuoteNearly half of Republicans (47 percent) believe that Trump won the popular vote, which is similar to this finding. Larger fractions believe that millions of illegal immigrants voted (68 percent) and that voter fraud happens somewhat or very often (73 percent). Again, this is similar to previous polls.

Moreover, 52 percent said that they would support postponing the 2020 election, and 56 percent said they would do so if both Trump and Republicans in Congress were behind this.

That seems pretty insane.  I remember Giuliani failed to garner that support after 9/11 when he called to postpone the elections for a few months.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on August 10, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Grear, so the third world war is going to be started by the men with the two most stupid haircuts in politics.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 10, 2017, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Faust on August 10, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Grear, so the third world war is going to be started by the men with the two most stupid haircuts in politics.

I warned you guys about the haircut thing back in 2005. 

PROPHECY.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 11, 2017, 12:36:03 AM
"An Exhausted Donald Trump To Take A 3-Day Vacation From His Golfing Vacation"

As per the article: "Donald Trump said that while he's on his 17-day vacation he will be 'working hard' but instead, he has lashed out at the media, his critics and threatened to start a nuclear war with North Korea. All of that tweeting and golfing has exhausted the 71-year-old former reality show star already. It's not the end of his vacation yet, but he's already planning a three-night stay in New York upon leaving his luxury golf club in Bedminster, N.J. on Sunday, then he'll return to his vacation after he takes a vacation from his vacation – or something like that."

Here's the link: http://deepstatenation.com/2017/08/an-exhausted-donald-trump-to-take-a-3-day-vacation-from-his-golfing-vacation/

Who hasn't needed a vacation from their vacation? I'm sure the good people of NYC will be out in force to demonstrate their sympathy for the head of the Trump Crime Family.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2017, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: Faust on August 10, 2017, 09:38:59 PM
Grear, so the third world war is going to be started by the men with the two most stupid haircuts in politics.

But Boris Johnson isn't involved...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on August 11, 2017, 03:39:54 PM
He's taking the Daenerys Targaryen slow route, starting with Brexit, one of the logical outcomes being nuclear war.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Ah, "my enemies have grown a brain, I must burn down everything."  Yeah, I can see that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 12, 2017, 05:30:02 AM
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year's DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn't a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC's system.
By Patrick Lawrence
(https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/)

QuoteThere was no hack of the Democratic National Committee's system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC's system. This casts serious doubt on the initial "hack," as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.

QuoteForensicator's first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC's server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 12, 2017, 05:55:44 AM
Lots of tech journalists have poured cold water on this story.  As they're pointing out, it's a single anonymous source who claims to have found hidden, encrypted metadata in the files...pretty dubious sounding under the best of circumstances.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 12, 2017, 06:04:33 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 12, 2017, 05:55:44 AM
Lots of tech journalists have poured cold water on this story.  As they're pointing out, it's a single anonymous source who claims to have found hidden, encrypted metadata in the files...pretty dubious sounding under the best of circumstances.

That is a good point.  I didn't realize that metadata wasn't confirmed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 12, 2017, 06:16:57 AM
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see some confirmation on this.

It's also worth pointing out, even if APT29 didn't undertake the hack, APT28 ("Fancy Bear", suspected Russian military intelligence asset) had broken in and was passively watching the flow of data through the DNC servers for the better part of a year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 13, 2017, 03:09:54 AM
Daily reminder: I am still more qualified to talk about terrorism than fake-PhD, fake-terrorism expert, White House Special Adviser Seb Gorka.

3 days ago Seb Gorka said people should stop going on about white supremacists and terrorism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 13, 2017, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2017, 03:09:54 AM
Daily reminder: I am still more qualified to talk about terrorism than fake-PhD, fake-terrorism expert, White House Special Adviser Seb Gorka.

3 days ago Seb Gorka said people should stop going on about white supremacists and terrorism.

In fairness, a dead goat is more qualified than gorka. The last interview I saw with him screamed "crazy person".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 13, 2017, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on August 11, 2017, 12:36:03 AM
"An Exhausted Donald Trump To Take A 3-Day Vacation From His Golfing Vacation"

As per the article: "Donald Trump said that while he's on his 17-day vacation he will be 'working hard' but instead, he has lashed out at the media, his critics and threatened to start a nuclear war with North Korea. All of that tweeting and golfing has exhausted the 71-year-old former reality show star already. It's not the end of his vacation yet, but he's already planning a three-night stay in New York upon leaving his luxury golf club in Bedminster, N.J. on Sunday, then he'll return to his vacation after he takes a vacation from his vacation – or something like that."

Here's the link: http://deepstatenation.com/2017/08/an-exhausted-donald-trump-to-take-a-3-day-vacation-from-his-golfing-vacation/

Who hasn't needed a vacation from their vacation? I'm sure the good people of NYC will be out in force to demonstrate their sympathy for the head of the Trump Crime Family.

I want him to keep golfing. The best case scenario with Trump is complete dereliction of office that effectively leaves us with no president instead of Trump or Pence as president.

Trump is worse than nothing,, and we must not forget that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 14, 2017, 01:22:41 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 13, 2017, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on August 11, 2017, 12:36:03 AM
"An Exhausted Donald Trump To Take A 3-Day Vacation From His Golfing Vacation"

As per the article: "Donald Trump said that while he's on his 17-day vacation he will be 'working hard' but instead, he has lashed out at the media, his critics and threatened to start a nuclear war with North Korea. All of that tweeting and golfing has exhausted the 71-year-old former reality show star already. It's not the end of his vacation yet, but he's already planning a three-night stay in New York upon leaving his luxury golf club in Bedminster, N.J. on Sunday, then he'll return to his vacation after he takes a vacation from his vacation – or something like that."

Here's the link: http://deepstatenation.com/2017/08/an-exhausted-donald-trump-to-take-a-3-day-vacation-from-his-golfing-vacation/

Who hasn't needed a vacation from their vacation? I'm sure the good people of NYC will be out in force to demonstrate their sympathy for the head of the Trump Crime Family.

I want him to keep golfing. The best case scenario with Trump is complete dereliction of office that effectively leaves us with no president instead of Trump or Pence as president.

Trump is worse than nothing,, and we must not forget that.

I agree. The smartest thing the Democrats could do would be to drag out impeachment until early 2020. Tossing Trump out earlier, or forcing him to resign earlier, would simply hand the presidency over to Pence. And that would be considerably worse for the country than the bumbling incompetence we have right now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Trump's considering pardoning Sheriff Joe.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 14, 2017, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 14, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Trump's considering definitely going to be pardoning Sheriff Joe.
fixed for clairvoyance
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: QueenThera on August 14, 2017, 11:30:26 PM
Is it still even vaguely possible that Donald Trump isn't trying to court and keep racists on his side?

I want to say this is too deliberate and obvious a long term pattern, but maybe he's just being manipulated, or there's a point to a fine gradation between Racist and Wants Racist Votes that I can't appreciate. Like the possibility of talking him out of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 14, 2017, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 14, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Trump's considering pardoning Sheriff Joe.

Of course he is. 

:tgrr:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 15, 2017, 05:22:26 PM
US government demands details on all visitors to anti-Trump protest website

Privacy advocates call warrant for IP addresses of 1.3 million people who visited inauguration protest website an unconstitutional 'fishing expedition'
Julia Carrie Wong and Olivia Solon in San Francisco

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/14/donald-trump-inauguration-protest-website-search-warrant-dreamhost)
QuoteOn 17 July, the DoJ served a website-hosting company, DreamHost, with a search warrant for every piece of information it possessed that was related to a website that was used to coordinate protests during Donald Trump's inauguration. The warrant covers the people who own and operate the site, but also seeks to get the IP addresses of 1.3 million people who visited it, as well as the date and time of their visit and information about what browser or operating system they used.

ETA:
QuoteThe website, www.disruptj20.org, was used to coordinate protests and civil disobedience on 20 January, when Trump was inaugurated.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 15, 2017, 05:42:17 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Buckle up this is the craziest shit I've heard in a long time indeed!

Donald Trump, TIME TRAVELER! (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdBrlu7nUhs)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 15, 2017, 05:51:07 PM
Nikki Haley is meeting with the IAEA later this month, over Iran's nuclear program.

Basically, the USA has to certify that Iran is following JCPOA every four(?) months, as a signatory to the treaty (the actual evaluations and investigations are carried out by the IAEA - which released its report last month showing Iran was continuing to be compliant).

Trump did certify Iran last time around...but it took significant bipartisan pressure and his own SecState to get him to sign it, on the day before it lapsed, and he wasn't very happy about doing so.  So, watch out for something to happen at that meeting, and to subsequently happen in October, when Trump is due to sign again.  I have a bad feeling...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 15, 2017, 07:37:51 PM
Quote from: QueenThera on August 14, 2017, 11:30:26 PM
Is it still even vaguely possible that Donald Trump isn't trying to court and keep racists on his side?

I want to say this is too deliberate and obvious a long term pattern, but maybe he's just being manipulated,

Yeah, I've gotten kind of a Theoden vibe from him too
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 16, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WULgxE2.jpg)

Interesting wording, there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 16, 2017, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 16, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WULgxE2.jpg)

Interesting wording, there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERtocYDSmrM#t=6m

that hiss tho...hmmm
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 16, 2017, 05:01:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 16, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WULgxE2.jpg)

Interesting wording, there.

I saw the video. Didn't actually sound like he said "us" to me. But I didn't watch it more than once.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 16, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on August 16, 2017, 05:01:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 16, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WULgxE2.jpg)

Interesting wording, there.

I saw the video. Didn't actually sound like he said "us" to me. But I didn't watch it more than once.

Haven't you been paying attention? It no longer matters. As long as it's asserted then it happened :evil:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 16, 2017, 01:42:34 PM
I watched the video last night, and didn't hear it the first time either. I was like "Wtf, did that meme from earlier lie to me? THE WORLD IS A LIE AND TERRANCE MCKENNA AND DAVID ICKE WERE RIGHT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" and decided to watch and listen again. The second time, I heard "...charging at me..." which is close enough for me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 16, 2017, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 16, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on August 16, 2017, 05:01:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 16, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/WULgxE2.jpg)

Interesting wording, there.

I saw the video. Didn't actually sound like he said "us" to me. But I didn't watch it more than once.

Haven't you been paying attention? It no longer matters. As long as it's asserted then it happened :evil:

Yeah--shit's fair game at this point
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 16, 2017, 04:01:32 PM
I have zero doubt that's what he meant.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 16, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
"Artists set up giant inflatable of President Trump with rodent-like features near Trump Tower"

As per the article: "The Trump rat is modeled on the inflatable rats used by labor unions to draw attention to developers they take issue with. It was set up at Fifth Avenue and 59th Street."

"The creators of "Trumpy the Rat" raised the funds for the balloon on Kickstarter. It has Confederate flag cufflinks."

Here's the link: http://pix11.com/2017/08/14/artists-set-up-giant-inflatable-of-president-trump-with-rodent-like-features-near-trump-tower/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 16, 2017, 11:55:08 PM
"Shep Smith: Fox News Bookers Failed To Find A Republican Willing To Defend Trump"

As per the article: Smith said, "We, our booking team and they're good, reached out to Republicans of all stripes across the country today. Let's be honest, Republicans often don't really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn't get anyone to come and defend him here because we thought in balance someone should do that."

"We worked very hard at it throughout the day and we were unsuccessful," Smith said.

Here's the link: http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/shep-smith-fox-news-bookers-failed-find

How about that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on August 17, 2017, 02:02:37 AM
So my company and all the others on the Strategy and Policy Forum got on a conference call with Trump and Trump was all, "No you can't because I'll dissolve it first."

FFS

Hmm wonder if it was recorded.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 17, 2017, 07:39:17 PM
Associated Press Won't Use Term 'Alt-Right'
By Taegan Goddard (https://politicalwire.com/2017/08/16/associated-press-wont-use-term-alt-right-anymore/)

QuoteAt AP, we have taken the position that the term "alt-right" should be avoided because it is meant as a euphemism to disguise racist aims. So use it only when quoting someone or when describing what the movement says about itself. Enclose the term "alt-right" in quotation marks or use phrasing such as the so-called alt-right (no quote marks when using the term so-called) or the self-described "alt-right."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on August 17, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
In other news, Juggalos hate nazis.

(https://image.ibb.co/bMGrWa/tumblr_outu6rvi_BR1rov8uxo1_540.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nsREjv/fuckin_faygo.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b54dBa/secretly_antifa.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 17, 2017, 11:12:09 PM
Juggalos, for their many manifest faults, including a lack of knowledge about magnets, have always prided themselves on being very inclusive.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 17, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
Meanwhile, here is Trump not being inclusive

http://time.com/4905420/donald-trump-pershing-pigs-blood-muslim-tweet/

QuoteHours after a deadly terror attack in Barcelona, President Donald Trump suggested that Islamic terrorists should be executed with bullets soaked in pig's blood, praising a discredited story of a 20th-century atrocity.

"Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught," Trump tweeted Thursday afternoon. "There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!"

The tweet referenced a false story that Trump told at rallies more than once on the campaign trail. Trump claimed that during the Moro rebellion in the Philippines between 1901 and 1913, U.S. Gen. John Pershing executed Muslim insurgents with bullets dipped in pig's blood. Trump's retelling of the myth has changed each time
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 18, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
Bannon is confirmed out.  Resigned 2 weeks ago, apparently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 18, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Anyone else feeling like he can do more damage as a free agent than in the WH?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 18, 2017, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
Bannon is confirmed out.  Resigned 2 weeks ago, apparently.

Wait, what? So the "is he going" speculation went on when he was already gone?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 19, 2017, 12:32:41 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 18, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Anyone else feeling like he can do more damage as a free agent than in the WH?

(http://i.imgur.com/fpz8C4L.jpg)

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 18, 2017, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
Bannon is confirmed out.  Resigned 2 weeks ago, apparently.

Wait, what? So the "is he going" speculation went on when he was already gone?

Presumably they gave him two weeks to clear the cheap whiskey bottles from his office.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 19, 2017, 01:00:48 AM
Let me know when to stop laughing. The survivor poster in the political pics thread also needs an update.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 19, 2017, 05:29:45 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 18, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Anyone else feeling like he can do more damage as a free agent than in the WH?

Steve Bannon Speaks After White House Departure: 'I'm Going to War for Trump'
Recently departed White House strategist Steve Bannon is preparing a war for Donald Trump, not against him.

(http://hxxp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/18/steve-bannon-speaks-after-white-house-departure-im-going-to-war-for-trump/)

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 19, 2017, 06:07:40 AM
Yes, there was quite a bit of confusion on that point.

Still, I think it's a safe bet that "fighting for Trump" will manifest itself in trashing the "globalists" at the White House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on August 19, 2017, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 17, 2017, 11:12:09 PM
Juggalos, for their many manifest faults, including a lack of knowledge about magnets, have always prided themselves on being very inclusive.

Huh. Must just be the ones I know who are racist. :/

That's pretty cool though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 20, 2017, 12:13:12 AM
Quote from: LMNO on August 18, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
Anyone else feeling like he can do more damage as a free agent than in the WH?

Thought about this, and if that's the case it's mainly due to the level of information he's been privy to due to the nature of his job/clearances.

And given that these people are not that smart or subtle, I imagine breitbart to be in court before long.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 21, 2017, 11:10:20 AM
Yeah, if Bannon starts leaking information he was privy to during his time in the White House, that has any kind of clearance rating or non-distribute clause attached, he's going to get smacked down hard by the courts.

That's assuming Rupert Murdoch does not tear him a new asshole first, of course.  News International and Breitbart are allegedly squaring up for a showdown.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 22, 2017, 12:47:17 AM
And thus begins the various right wing factions starting in earnest to fight among themselves. Cue commencement of blame game of why it's all going to shit and how it's their fault.

Also up soon: doubling down on stupidity and staunch support for policies you've actively worked against.

Question: any Murdoch ties to Russia? Just trying to work out what he'll kick and how hard. I can't recall any so this may push that in the right wing sphere. I imagine bannon is not the only face Murdoch would like to remove and replace with an ex news Corp tool. It's been a solid strategy in the UK so pulling, or trying to pull the same shit in the US seems plausible.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2017, 02:01:08 AM
Well, Murdoch's ex-wife was reportedly with Putin  :lol:  Whether this was before, after or at the same time she was reportedly spending a lot of time with Tony Blair is not entirely clear.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 22, 2017, 02:24:05 AM
And yet, I've not heard a single crackpot conspiracy theory around her for ages.

I'm going to start telling people she's been seen with idiot. Let me know when the rumor reaches you.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2017, 02:46:06 AM
4,000ish troops in Afghanistan and all of a sudden Trump is "presidential" once again.

4000 soldiers aren't going to do squat, of course.  The Taliban control more territory now then they have at any time since 2002 or thereabouts.  Afghan security forces, counter-terrorism special forces aside, are a complete shambles, and as a consequence of that their only worthwhile troops are being run into the ground and sooner or later it's going to get them all killed. ISIS in Afghanistan, who as I've previously mentioned are a bunch of no-hopers who couldn't cut it in the Taliban - along with the usual psychopathic foreign fighter contingent - are able to penetrate security in Kabul with appalling ease, so when the Taliban do make a push for the capitol, it will collapse like a house of cards, along with the government.

To add to the mix, Trump has decided now is the time to crack down on Pakistan.  I don't give two fucks for the ISI or the Pakistani Army, but the best time to pick a fight with them is probably not at the same time as we are relying on their ports to supply troops in-country.  Trump thinks he can offset this by appealing to India, but India's currently in a gigantic pissing match with China, the kind of pissing match which may devolve into a conflict if people don't tone it down soon.

If Pakistan does close its ports, or the ISI arranges some "unofficial action" to prevent those supplies getting through, the only other option would be from the north...via Russia.  Russia is believed to be supporting the Taliban.

But hey, "presidential", amirite?  Nothing more statesmanlike than jamming your dick in a hornet's nest over and over again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Drake75 on August 26, 2017, 03:16:44 AM
Grim/Mandy/Billy 2016, Mr Krabs/Squidward 2020

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 26, 2017, 05:07:58 AM
Gorka gone, looks like sacked. Also appears not to be an idiot sacking but the new chief of staff. Interesting twist given breitbart affiliations.

And sherrif Joe pardoned because idiot. Of course he would.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 28, 2017, 07:10:19 PM
Idiot lifting restrictions on surplus military gear to police. Expect the first death by grenade launcher within a month or so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 28, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 28, 2017, 07:10:19 PM
Idiot lifting restrictions on surplus military gear to police.

:hm:

That's... um... terrifying...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2017, 09:50:45 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2017, 05:07:58 AM
Gorka gone, looks like sacked. Also appears not to be an idiot sacking but the new chief of staff. Interesting twist given breitbart affiliations.

And sherrif Joe pardoned because idiot. Of course he would.

Gorka couldn't get a security clearance.  Reasons unknown, but he has a dodgy past as befitting a grifter of his kind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: trix on September 17, 2017, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Freeky on August 17, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
In other news, Juggalos hate nazis.

(https://s26.postimg.org/k6gyw5lrt/juggalosvsnazis.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 17, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: trix on September 17, 2017, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Freeky on August 17, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
In other news, Juggalos hate nazis.

(https://s26.postimg.org/k6gyw5lrt/juggalosvsnazis.png)

:lulz: So much for that!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-rally-sought-bring-190500017.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-rally-sought-bring-190500017.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on September 18, 2017, 08:12:58 AM
Quotewhile the Proud Boys describe themselves as "Western chauvinists".


Don't have a point really, just. This is a thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 19, 2017, 07:48:01 AM
So, there was a FISA warrant on Manafort from the FBI since 2016.  Actually, there was a FISA warrant on him before that, too, but that was unrelated to the time he was on the Trump campaign.

CNN's report says the wiretaps appeared to show or at least suggested that Manafort had requested for Russian government assistance during the campaign, though at least some of their sources said the evidence was ambiguous.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Orange-faced shitgibbon speaking at the UN right now.



We're all going to die.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 19, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
It's the Axis of Evil all over again.  Only without Iraq, because, y'know....

Trump seems intent on reneging on the Iran deal, which will strengthen the hand of radical clerics who said the USA couldn't be trusted.  And he's also intent on militarily escalating the situation with North Korea.

Most people would try to do one of those at a time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Orange-faced shitgibbon speaking at the UN right now.



We're all going to die.

Did he mention his electoral college votes?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Orange-faced shitgibbon speaking at the UN right now.



We're all going to die.

Did he mention his electoral college votes?

No, but he did say, "Fortunately the United States has done very well since Election Day last Nov. 8."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 19, 2017, 09:35:52 PM
His definition of "very well" must be somewhat different than mine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 19, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
Do you think he's referring to Kim Jong Un as Rocketman because the dementia has finally taken hold and he cannot remember his real name?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2017, 11:26:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Orange-faced shitgibbon speaking at the UN right now.



We're all going to die.

Did he mention his electoral college votes?

No, but he did say, "Fortunately the United States has done very well since Election Day last Nov. 8."

Basically the same thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 20, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
Let's be positive. A nuclear war with Korea woukd reverse global warming
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 20, 2017, 07:38:42 PM
Don't tell Trump that, or he'll be tweeting about the "Chinese conspiracy of global warming to promote nuclear winter"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2017, 12:49:12 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 20, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
Let's be positive. A nuclear war with Korea woukd reverse global warming

So will global warming, for that matter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on September 21, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2017, 12:49:12 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 20, 2017, 04:41:38 PM
Let's be positive. A nuclear war with Korea woukd reverse global warming

So will global warming, for that matter.


           Sounds like we shuld speed this shit up...
              DONNIE, GET THE TRUCK-BOAT-TRUCK!
              WE GOT OFF-ROADIN N' FUEL BURNIN TO DO!...

               FOR SCIENCE!
                   /
                  /
:redneck2:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 04, 2017, 01:47:25 PM
"Mueller Tasks an Adviser With Getting Ahead of Pre-Emptive Pardons"

As per the article:

"U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller has a distinctly modern problem. The president, judging by his tweets, could try to pardon people in his circle even before prosecutors charge anyone with a crime."

"Mueller's all-star team of prosecutors, with expertise in money laundering and foreign bribery, has an answer to that. He's Michael Dreeben, a bookish career government lawyer with more than 100 Supreme Court appearances under his belt."


Here's the link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-03/mueller-tasks-adviser-with-getting-ahead-of-pre-emptive-pardons

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2017, 02:32:59 PM
He's also got the New York AG helping with the investigation, as the President can only pardon federal crimes, not state level ones.  Mueller is covering all his bases.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 05, 2017, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2017, 02:32:59 PM
He's also got the New York AG helping with the investigation, as the President can only pardon federal crimes, not state level ones.  Mueller is covering all his bases.

Yes, he is. The G-Men are closing in on the Trump Crime Family.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 13, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
"Trump unleashes himself from would-be handlers, lashing out mornings, nights and weekends"

QuoteWhen President Trump agreed last month with Democrats to strike a deal granting legal status to so-called Dreamers brought to this country illegally as children, his chief of staff, John F. Kelly, was all for it. Another Trump confidant disagreed: Fox host Sean Hannity made clear in a phone call and on his show that Trump must draw a harder line on broader immigration enforcement as his price.

Trump sided with Hannity, according to a person close to the White House. The result was a list of demands unveiled Sunday night — conditions seemingly guaranteed to thwart a bipartisan deal.

Kelly, the retired Marine general who is Trump's second chief of staff, has sought to tighten the flow of information and visitors to the president, to bring order to an unruly White House and to the way that Trump makes his decisions. But he is often thwarted by one man: Trump.

The president by many accounts has bristled at the restrictions and continues — usually alone on mornings, nights and weekends — to act on his own gut sense, using his own lines to contact allies outside the White House and, using Twitter, to reach those millions of supporters he calls "my people."

Here's the link: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-kelly-20171010-story.html

So, would be revolutionaries, it occurs to me that one way of harnessing and directing The Chaos™ would be to not only fan the flames, but to be flamethrowers directed at the dolts in power.   

The above article describes the influence Hannity has on Trump.

Now, envision the power a small, well-organized, flamethrower group could have over a dolt like Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 13, 2017, 12:55:15 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on October 13, 2017, 12:39:06 AM


Now, envision the power a small, well-organized, flamethrower group could have over a dolt like Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX).

That's...GENIUS.   :eek:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 16, 2017, 01:12:44 AM
Golfer-In-Chief: Trump Has Now Spent 27% Of His Presidency On A Golf Course

QuoteAs the NBC News tracker calculates, Trump's latest visit to his club in Virginia marks the 72nd day of his presidency he is spending on a golf course and the 92nd time day he is visiting one of his own properties. In total, Trump has been in office for 267 days.

According to some quick, back-of-the-napkin math, that means that Trump has spent 27 percent of his presidency golfing and more than a third at one of his ritzy properties.

Here's the link: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/14/golfer-in-chief-trump-spent-27-presidency-golf.html

Given that it's Trump, I'm trying to decide if this is a good thing, or a bad thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 16, 2017, 11:49:37 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on October 16, 2017, 01:12:44 AM
Golfer-In-Chief: Trump Has Now Spent 27% Of His Presidency On A Golf Course

QuoteAs the NBC News tracker calculates, Trump's latest visit to his club in Virginia marks the 72nd day of his presidency he is spending on a golf course and the 92nd time day he is visiting one of his own properties. In total, Trump has been in office for 267 days.

According to some quick, back-of-the-napkin math, that means that Trump has spent 27 percent of his presidency golfing and more than a third at one of his ritzy properties.

Here's the link: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/14/golfer-in-chief-trump-spent-27-presidency-golf.html

Given that it's Trump, I'm trying to decide if this is a good thing, or a bad thing.

A good thing. The optimal outcome is for him to eventually start blowing off the job more-or-less entirely, so that we end up with neither Trump nor Pence in charge
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 17, 2017, 12:03:28 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 16, 2017, 11:49:37 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on October 16, 2017, 01:12:44 AM
Golfer-In-Chief: Trump Has Now Spent 27% Of His Presidency On A Golf Course

QuoteAs the NBC News tracker calculates, Trump's latest visit to his club in Virginia marks the 72nd day of his presidency he is spending on a golf course and the 92nd time day he is visiting one of his own properties. In total, Trump has been in office for 267 days.

According to some quick, back-of-the-napkin math, that means that Trump has spent 27 percent of his presidency golfing and more than a third at one of his ritzy properties.

Here's the link: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/14/golfer-in-chief-trump-spent-27-presidency-golf.html

Given that it's Trump, I'm trying to decide if this is a good thing, or a bad thing.

A good thing. The optimal outcome is for him to eventually start blowing off the job more-or-less entirely, so that we end up with neither Trump nor Pence in charge

That was also the consensus on a political forum I frequent.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 17, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Indeed. People keep forgetting that the republicans, and Trump and Pence in particular, are worse than nothing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 18, 2017, 09:08:15 PM
"Trump's Big Bet—That Republican Voters Like Him More Than Their Party or Congress"

QuoteIncreasingly, Republicans in Congress—Sen. Bob Corker, publicly, and plenty of others, privately—are voicing worry about what happens when a man they view as a toddler-president is left unsupervised by his various taxpayer-funded nannies.

For all the speculation about President Trump's motives for what appear to be ill-informed or un-strategic moves there is a method to Trump's perceived madness—a relatively simple way to accurately predict what he'll do on any given topic, with regard to any given decision.

The key is understanding that Trump's desire to round up Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, douse them with gasoline, light them on fire, and broadcast the auto-da-fé live on cable news will always outweigh his other desires—including improving his own personal profile, achieving a stated policy outcome, or even making the people nearest and dearest to him happy.

Trump, commonly regarded by many as perhaps the apex of narcissism in a reality-TV-obsessed, take-six-selfies-a-day and compulsively-post-on–social-media culture, indeed loves positioning himself as the best, the biggest, the brightest, the boldest, and brashest.

But at the end of the day, Trump's shown again and again that he cares little about being generally unpopular, even among parts of his base. Trump cares deeply though, about how popular he is viewed relative to his competitors.

Here's the link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-big-betthat-republican-voters-like-him-more-than-their-party-or-congress

I found this opinion piece to be an interesting take on Trump's personality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 24, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Congress: Trump Won't Implement Russia Sanctions—and He Won't Tell Us Why

QuoteWhen Congress sent President Donald Trump a bill in July that slapped new sanctions on Russia, the president signed the legislation reluctantly while lambasting it as an example of congressional overreach.

The administration has since blown past an October 1 deadline to implement the sanctions. Lawmakers are now searching for answers as to whether the president is even planning to follow the law that they passed and he signed.

"If they don't cooperate, then further actions need to be taken," Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) told The Daily Beast on Monday. The Arizona senator, who chairs the powerful Armed Services Committee and has spoken out against the White House on its attitude toward Moscow, said the administration has left him in the dark.

But aside from procedural tactics, Congress is essentially powerless in compelling the executive branch to follow through on the law it forced them to sign.

Here's the link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/congress-trump-wont-implement-russia-sanctionsand-he-wont-tell-us-why

But, as long as the GOP donor class gets their massive tax cuts, I'm sure the majority in Congress will be happy to let this pesky little Russian Sanctions thing slide.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 26, 2017, 09:05:36 PM
Trump is hardest working President since WW2: GOP

QuoteA majority of Republicans believe Donald Trump is working harder than any other president since World War II despite the fact he has spent nearly one in four days playing golf.

When asked by the pollster YouGov to compare Trump's work ethic to other Presidents, 58 percent of Republicans said that Trump is a "harder worker" than any of them, including Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan and war hero Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/trump-is-hardest-working-president-since-ww2-gop/

We've known it for quite a while, but this yet again illustrates that facts don't matter to the majority of Republican voters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 26, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
This is why wars happen. Eventually, there really is no getting through to some people by any means other than physically hurting them until they stop doing whatever it is they're doing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 29, 2017, 06:37:46 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on October 26, 2017, 09:05:36 PM
Trump is hardest working President since WW2: GOP

QuoteA majority of Republicans believe Donald Trump is working harder than any other president since World War II despite the fact he has spent nearly one in four days playing golf.

When asked by the pollster YouGov to compare Trump's work ethic to other Presidents, 58 percent of Republicans said that Trump is a "harder worker" than any of them, including Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan and war hero Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/trump-is-hardest-working-president-since-ww2-gop/

We've known it for quite a while, but this yet again illustrates that facts don't matter to the majority of Republican voters.

He works hard on a lot of things, it's just unfortunate that all of them are batshit crazy. He's still trying to build the wall, and to institute the travel ban, and fuck up healthcare, and do all of other demented bullshit he promised. He needs to stop working so hard and start spending the rest of the days on the golf course too or else there's a very real and disturbing risk that he might eventually accomplish something, and that won't be good for anybody (except possibly Putin)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 31, 2017, 12:06:21 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41808227

QuoteAn election campaign adviser to Donald Trump has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about the timing of meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia.
George Papadopoulos admitted the talks happened while he worked for Mr Trump, not before, court papers show.
He said he had been told the Russians possessed "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.
Separately, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort pleaded not guilty to charges of money laundering unrelated to the 2016 election.

Is any commentary needed at this point?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 31, 2017, 02:54:23 AM
Pat Robertson Says Trump Should Issue 'Blanket Pardon' for Indictments: 'He's Got to Shut This Down'

QuoteTelevangelist Pat Robertson said Donald Trump's best course of action after the indictments against his former campaign staffers is to pardon everyone and shut down Robert Mueller's "tainted" special counsel.

Robertson used his appearance on The 700 Club Monday to react to the indictments against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, as well as George Papadopoulos' guilty plea of making false statements to the FBI. Robertson said there was "not a chance" of Manafort's inappropriate conduct getting linked to the White House, and he went on to recommend that Trump issue a "blanket pardon" to anyone indicted in connection with the investigations into Russia.

Here's the link: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pat-robertson-says-trump-should-issue-blanket-pardon-for-indictments-hes-got-to-shut-this-down/

And this particular Professional Christian knows Manafort's inappropriate conduct is not linked to the White House because _____________________.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 31, 2017, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on October 31, 2017, 12:06:21 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41808227

QuoteAn election campaign adviser to Donald Trump has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about the timing of meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia.
George Papadopoulos admitted the talks happened while he worked for Mr Trump, not before, court papers show.
He said he had been told the Russians possessed "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.
Separately, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort pleaded not guilty to charges of money laundering unrelated to the 2016 election.

Is any commentary needed at this point?

Papadopoulos was interesting though, right?  Also showing once again that UK connections to Russian politicians seem pivotal in the Trump campaign (the meeting with the Russian lawyer at the Trump Towers was arranged via a British intermediary also).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Drake75 on November 06, 2017, 02:06:26 AM
Ok, so the election was supposed to be Bernie vs Trump but THINGS happened and I've been wondering how much you guys actually knew about Bernie being doomed before ever starting. Is there a place or time where you guys actually had some evidence to back you up or was always instinct and pattern recognition?
I wanna reeaad it.
O, and I also want to share that every time I imagine seeing Trump anymore I imagine him in a janitor jumpsuit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2017, 03:09:51 AM
Quote from: Drake75 on November 06, 2017, 02:06:26 AM
Ok, so the election was supposed to be Bernie vs Trump

Keep on believing, sunshine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2017, 09:27:53 AM
"Supposed" has nothing to do with politics as practiced.  A party outsider was never going to beat a party insider, that's the way parties work and why they exist (except the Republicans, because they're stupid like that).  If anyone seriously thought an insurgent candidate was going to win the primaries against someone who: was married to a previous and very popular President, who was a senator for the party, who did a lot of fundraising work for the party, had worked at Cabinet level in another Democratic Presidential team and had put in a good showing against a quite popular candidate in the 2008 primary, they needed to get their head checked.

Sanders was all about pushing the Democratic message leftward, until some people got hopped up on Berniementum and lost sight of reality.

Oh, and Sanders' campaign was run by Tad Devine, someone with close links to Paul Manafort, Trump's one-time campaign manager.  So there was always a suspicion that his candidacy was a ratfuck operation among informed party members (I'm not so convinced, but there is some emerging evidence to suggest at least part of Sanders online campaign was being disseminated and pushed by people with that kind of an agenda...the notorious H. A. Goodman, for example, was a Rand Paul supporter before his conversion to Sanders).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 07, 2017, 12:30:09 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 06, 2017, 09:27:53 AM
"Supposed" has nothing to do with politics as practiced.  A party outsider was never going to beat a party insider, that's the way parties work and why they exist (except the Republicans, because they're stupid like that).  If anyone seriously thought an insurgent candidate was going to win the primaries against someone who: was married to a previous and very popular President, who was a senator for the party, who did a lot of fundraising work for the party, had worked at Cabinet level in another Democratic Presidential team and had put in a good showing against a quite popular candidate in the 2008 primary, they needed to get their head checked.

Sanders was all about pushing the Democratic message leftward, until some people got hopped up on Berniementum and lost sight of reality.

Oh, and Sanders' campaign was run by Tad Devine, someone with close links to Paul Manafort, Trump's one-time campaign manager.  So there was always a suspicion that his candidacy was a ratfuck operation among informed party members (I'm not so convinced, but there is some emerging evidence to suggest at least part of Sanders online campaign was being disseminated and pushed by people with that kind of an agenda...the notorious H. A. Goodman, for example, was a Rand Paul supporter before his conversion to Sanders).

This is a reasonable and logical reply to an entitiy incaple of understanding it.

Some of those THINGS that happened include:

One candidate talking about grabbing women by their genitalia. The same candidate also demonstrated a total lack of knowledge on the USA's nuclear arsenal. Either of those things would have killed a conventional candidacy overnight.

By "Conventional" I mean one where everyone around the candidate isn't committing crimes and meeting with foreign officials pretty much all of the fucking time.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 07, 2017, 05:43:30 PM
Trump benefitted from [allegedly™] illegal dealings with a hostile foreign power working with savvy political strategists who knew exactly which voters to target with what kind of ads at just the right times. That by itself may not have been quite enough to tip the Electoral College (it didn't earn him the popular vote, after all), but mix that with the usual anti-incumbent sentiment that always happens after a two-term presidency as well as the flares of openly sexist and racist "take our country back from Those People"-ism, and it's a wonder Hillary did as well as she did. On a level playing field, she would have mopped the floor with that stupid combover.

As for Bernie, he never had a chance in the first place. He should have known better than to make a serious play for the nomination. Not because his ideas were bad or because Clinton "deserved" it more than he did, but because it was obvious what he would do to the Democrats if he insisted. Everyone began 2016 expecting to vote for Hillary in November, even the people I know who ended up hating her by the election. That isn't Hillary's fault -- she did everything consistently and exactly as by-the-book as you'd expect a firmly entrenched establishment politician to do. The variable was Sanders, who drove his supporters off an ideological cliff for nothing.

And the only reason anyone is still talking about Hillary right now is the frantic disinformation and smear campaigns flooding the media in a desperate attempt to divert attention from the flames consuming the Trump administration. Everyone keeps talking about the Russian interference as if it's a past-tense thing, for some reason. While they're no longer buying up Facebook ads in rubles and may not have active coordination with the Trump team, it's obvious there is still a semi-organized effort to sway public opinion. Fake news stories haven't mysteriously vanished in the last 10 months, and online pundits are still being inflated and amplified by tons of automated bot accounts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 09, 2017, 10:05:49 PM
CMAs get political: Trump mocked in 'Before He Tweets' parody

QuoteIt is not only rare for the CMAs to get explicitly political, but it is even more unusual that a Republican president was mocked openly on stage by some of the genre's biggest stars.

Here's the link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/politics/trump-cmas-carrie-underwood-brad-paisley-before-he-tweets/index.html

This sounds like redneck Red State voter blasphemy to me!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 09, 2017, 10:40:11 PM
If you check out the lyrics to Paisley's songs like Southern Comfort Zone and American Saturday Night, he does a pretty good job expressing ... well pretty liberal ideas.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 09, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on November 09, 2017, 10:40:11 PM
If you check out the lyrics to Paisley's songs like Southern Comfort Zone and American Saturday Night, he does a pretty good job expressing ... well pretty liberal ideas.

The nearest I get to "country music" is The Grateful Dead, so I'll have to take your word for it.

My post above was prompted by my memory of what "the good ol' boys and girls" had to say about The Dixie Chicks, when they dissed Dubya not so many years ago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 09, 2017, 11:50:30 PM
Does anybody here know anyone with the expertise to rig things so google searches for "the manchurian candidate" turn up Trump as the top result
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 10, 2017, 12:07:51 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 09, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on November 09, 2017, 10:40:11 PM
If you check out the lyrics to Paisley's songs like Southern Comfort Zone and American Saturday Night, he does a pretty good job expressing ... well pretty liberal ideas.

The nearest I get to "country music" is The Grateful Dead, so I'll have to take your word for it.

My post above was prompted by my memory of what "the good ol' boys and girls" had to say about The Dixie Chicks, when they dissed Dubya not so many years ago.

I dig -- this was a part of a conversation I had earlier today.  American Saturday Night is basically about immigration without necessarily coming out and saying so.  Southern Comfort Zone came from his experience in Paris as a 'minority'...

Consider:
I have walked the streets of Rome, I have been to foreign lands
I know what it's like to talk and have nobody understand
I have seen the Eiffel Tower lit up on a Paris night
I have kissed a West Coast girl underneath the Northern Lights
I know what it's like to be the only one like me,
To take a good hard look around and be in the minority
And I miss my Tennessee home
I can see the ways that I've grown
I can't see this world unless I go
Outside my Southern Comfort zone


My appreciation for country is more the older stuff...but I appreciate this after I gave it another look :)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 10, 2017, 01:10:21 AM
Also: Tim McGraw, Faith Hill call out NRA, demand 'common sense' gun control ( http://tinyurl.com/y9gw3b9n )
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 10, 2017, 05:03:37 AM
Trump voter fraud commission is sued — by one of its own commissioners

QuoteA Democratic member of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity filed suit against the commission in federal court in Washington, D.C. on Thursday morning, alleging that its Republican leadership has intentionally excluded him from deliberations and violated federal transparency laws. The commission has been sued more times (eight, including the new filing) than it has officially convened for meetings (two times).

The suit, filed by Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, accuses the commission of violating the Federal Advisory Commission Act, which, among other things, requires that advisory committees be bipartisan and sets transparency requirements for them. "Everything we are doing is absolutely perpendicular to that," Dunlap charged in an interview. "We aren't inviting the public to participate. We aren't transparent. And we aren't even working together at all. My real fear is that this commission will offer policy recommendations that have not been properly vetted by all of the commissioners."

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trump-voter-fraud-commission-is-sued-by-one-of-its-own-commissioners/

Lawyers are certainly making money with the Trump "Administration" in the White House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 10, 2017, 06:28:27 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 09, 2017, 11:50:30 PM
Does anybody here know anyone with the expertise to rig things so google searches for "the manchurian candidate" turn up Trump as the top result

I have zero expertise in this sort of thing, but you may want to research how Dan Savage managed to redefine the word "santorum," as described in the following Wikipedia article:

Campaign for the neologism "santorum"

QuoteThe campaign for the neologism "santorum" started with a contest held in May 2003 by Dan Savage, a sex columnist and LGBT rights activist. Savage asked his readers to create a definition for the word "santorum" in response to then-U.S. Senator Rick Santorum's views on homosexuality, and comments about same sex marriage. In his comments, Santorum had stated that "n every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." Savage announced the winning entry, which defined "santorum" as "the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex". He created a web site, spreadingsantorum.com (and santorum.com), to promote the definition, which became a top internet search result displacing the Senator's official website on many search engines, including Google, Yahoo! Search, and Bing.

Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_the_neologism_%22santorum%22
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 14, 2017, 02:17:59 AM
U.S. hate crimes rise for second straight year: FBI

QuoteWASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of hate crimes committed in the United States rose in 2016 for the second consecutive year, with African-Americans, Jews and Muslims targeted in many of the incidents, the FBI said on Monday in an annual report.

There were 6,121 hate crime incidents recorded last year, an almost 5 percent rise from 2015 and a 10 percent increase from 2014, the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Hate Crimes Statistics report said. It did not give a reason for the rise.

(Bold type is mine.)

Here's the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-hatecrime-fbi/u-s-hate-crimes-rise-for-second-straight-year-fbi-idUSKBN1DD2BA

I think I can give a reason for the rise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 14, 2017, 03:35:47 AM
Not specifically related to Trump (any more so than anything else in American politics right now), but it struck me today that it's a real shame there's nobody on the "not batshit crazy conservative" side pulling the strings of real schism in the GOP, with the kerfluffle surrounding Roy Moore and the general rabid hatred for Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan on account of their not being quite crazy enough. It seems like the perfect time to start astroturfing a synthetic "grassroots" movement to vote for some kind of MAGA Party. Play up all the ways the Republican establishment is stabbing Real 'Murricans in the back by failing to round up and imprison, deport, and/or execute anyone who isn't white, straight, male, or Christian enough. It's plainly evident that there's no turning these people back from where they are, and the least destructive way to avert actual disaster is to stop treating them as if they're within the spectrum of reasonable politics. Give them exactly what they want -- an openly extremist party, but one totally controlled by cynics and doomed to failure -- just to mop up all those MAGA votes and throw them in the trash. I'd do it, but I left my fifty billion dollars in my other pants.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 14, 2017, 06:02:25 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on November 14, 2017, 03:35:47 AM
Not specifically related to Trump (any more so than anything else in American politics right now), but it struck me today that it's a real shame there's nobody on the "not batshit crazy conservative" side pulling the strings of real schism in the GOP, with the kerfluffle surrounding Roy Moore and the general rabid hatred for Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan on account of their not being quite crazy enough. It seems like the perfect time to start astroturfing a synthetic "grassroots" movement to vote for some kind of MAGA Party. Play up all the ways the Republican establishment is stabbing Real 'Murricans in the back by failing to round up and imprison, deport, and/or execute anyone who isn't white, straight, male, or Christian enough. It's plainly evident that there's no turning these people back from where they are, and the least destructive way to avert actual disaster is to stop treating them as if they're within the spectrum of reasonable politics. Give them exactly what they want -- an openly extremist party, but one totally controlled by cynics and doomed to failure -- just to mop up all those MAGA votes and throw them in the trash. I'd do it, but I left my fifty billion dollars in my other pants.

The Real 'Murricans may be doing that job all by themselves. There are, after all, a growing number of Republican incumbents who have already decided to not run for reelection next year.

One of those incumbents, to my surprise, is the "moderate" from my congressional district. In this particular case, Mr. Moderate is so popular it's extremely unlikely he could lose the GOP primary to a rabid conservative. And, after having being reelected several times by sizable margins, the Democrats have yet to find a viable candidate, who actually lives within the congressional district, to run against him. The consensus opinion in the district is that Mr. Moderate has had his fill of the crazies in his party, and just wants to move on with his life.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2017, 02:42:02 PM
No collusion whatsoever

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/360189-trump-tweeted-about-podesta-emails-15-minutes-after-wikileaks-asked

QuotePresident Trump tweeted about the hacked emails of then-Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta approximately 15 minutes after WikiLeaks requested his son Donald Trump Jr. to, The Atlantic reported Monday.

"Trump Jr. did not respond to this message. But just 15 minutes after it was sent...Donald Trump himself tweeted," according to the report.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 14, 2017, 06:29:12 PM
While it does seem very smoking gun, I'm leaning toward coincidence. I mean, Donald Trump understanding and following a very simple instruction? Nah  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 20, 2017, 08:49:40 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/republican-sex-trafficking-child-trump-coordinator-716348

QuoteRalph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator and county campaign coordinator for President Donald Trump's campaign last year, will plead guilty to a child sex trafficking charge after being accused of soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy in March.

In exchange for his guilty plea, government prosecutors have agreed to drop three counts of child pornography against him.

Shortey is scheduled to plead guilty on November 30, two weeks before his trial was set to commence on December 5. Sex trafficking of a minor carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison, but Shortey could be sent to life in prison for the offense at a sentencing hearing in early 2018.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 01, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
Flynn just pled guilty to lying to the FBI about his meeting with the Russian ambassador.

News outlets are also reporting that Flynn is willing to testify that Trump and other senior members of the transition team were briefed on this and gave him the go ahead for the meeting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 01, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24131158_10155181239830678_4581533523248100043_n.jpg?oh=2af291fbbff6f05d6c7012b4475c9d47&oe=5AD7BD05)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on December 01, 2017, 05:27:48 PM
Come oooon impeachment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 01, 2017, 05:43:08 PM
Also, the only senior members of the transition team that Flynn could have been reporting to, other than Trump himself, is Pence and Kushner.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 02, 2017, 06:27:39 PM
Well, maybe now that the GOP has passed their horrific tax plan, they'll start wondering whether keeping Trump around is more political risk than it's worth.

LOL jk

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Now they'll be emboldened to come up with even more stupid shit to push through Congress while the President is "learning the ropes" (aka admitting crimes on Twitter).

I believe there's at least one more vote the tax plan has to go through before becoming law though, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 04, 2017, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 03, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Now they'll be emboldened to come up with even more stupid shit to push through Congress while the President is "learning the ropes" (aka admitting crimes on Twitter).

I believe there's at least one more vote the tax plan has to go through before becoming law though, right?

It goes back the House, which means it's as good as passed. The only hope we have that it fails at this point is that some of the TEA Party representatives decide the Senate version doesn't fuck enough poor black people and refuse to support it. But that won't happen because the base is already gung-ho for the "Republican Tax Plan" and will support anything that can be labeled that. The base would support universal income and free healthcare for everyone as long as the people pushing it insulted Obama's mother at the press conference.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 04, 2017, 05:03:23 AM
The hope is that the house will want to put their dick in it, which means it goes back to the senate again.  This can go on for years.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 04, 2017, 10:07:29 AM
Maybe they'll come up with more illegible writing to put in the margins?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 04, 2017, 05:30:17 PM
I almost think the whole thing is just smoke and mirrors to keep support for Congress from completely collapsing and dragging the GOP's coalition down with it. They're parading around like they just solved world hunger or something (well, not that, since they'd never admit to doing that) despite the fact that the bill is still mired in parliamentary procedures. They've already pleased their base by portraying the Senate bill's success as something that matters, and if the bill does eventually die, they'll let it do so quietly and let their voters keep on thinking something was done.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on December 05, 2017, 06:54:14 AM
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

QuoteThe Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.


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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2017, 02:25:01 PM
Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 05, 2017, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 05, 2017, 02:25:01 PM
Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.

woooooooooooo   :eek: and :schadenfreude:


ETA HOW DO WE NOT HAVE AN EMOTE FOR SCHADENFREUDE?  OFF TO FIX THAT.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 05, 2017, 05:48:32 PM
Can someone shrink that?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on December 05, 2017, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 05, 2017, 02:25:01 PM
Mueller has Trump's personal banking records.  Deutsche Bank were served with a subpoena to hand them over.

I am currently crying with laughter.

Remember this fucker had loans from over 150 banks at one point prior to one of his bankruptcies. Banks have long memories and I'm sure more than a few will be delighted to turn the knife.

Half a goat says it's HSBC that does so for added laughs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 06, 2017, 04:15:07 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on December 05, 2017, 06:54:14 AM
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

QuoteThe Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.

Wow, I think such a plan might potentially count as treason in and of itself, irrespective of the seperate treason of having russia meddle in the election
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 06, 2017, 04:26:24 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 06, 2017, 04:15:07 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on December 05, 2017, 06:54:14 AM
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/trump-white-house-weighing-plans-for-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/

QuoteThe Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering "deep state" enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump's presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration's political agenda.
"Pompeo can't trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him," said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. "It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books," this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community.

Wow, I think such a plan might potentially count as treason in and of itself, irrespective of the seperate treason of having russia meddle in the election

The thing about "treason" and "obstruction of justice" is that they're only crimes if someone is willing and able to prosecute them. The only people in the country right now who can hold Trump accountable to anything is Congress, and if you think they're going to derail this gravy train over a few little high crimes and misdemeanors, you're sadly mistaken. Besides the obvious legislative benefits to having Trump in office, there's the fact that 2/3 of their base will rebel in the next election if they so much as lift a finger in that direction. Trump is here to stay until at least 2019, and then only if Democrats manage to sweep both the House and Senate, which they won't, thanks to all the gerrymandering and voter suppression. We're in this for the long haul.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 06, 2017, 09:04:58 AM
US presidents relying on private intelligence networks not only isn't new, this involves some of the same damn people as one of the previous times.

All they need is to talk to the Saudis about funding the venture and they call call it the Sarfari Club 2.0.

On the plus side, at least its not the LaRouches.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 06, 2017, 04:54:58 PM
Something needs to be done about Saudi Arabia. If ever there was a country that deserved to be completely wiped off the map and replaced with a gaping hole into the earth's mantle it's them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 07, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
Is it true that Trump recently offered up a large chunk of one of the national parks as his latest sacrifice to Mammon?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on December 07, 2017, 09:13:34 PM
The Prince Pitch ( http://tinyurl.com/y6u4oze7 )

For Afghanistan...

Source:
@pwnallthethings :: JFC. "Please let us strip-mine AFG for rare-earth minerals. It'll be great. We'll have guns, and Afghanis can work in the mines" https://t.co/Aw7rrIf6sv

@pwnallthethings :: Sadly not joking https://t.co/3m6yaNhmdI
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 17, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
Rumour is Trump is going to shitcan Mueller on the 22nd, while Congress is out of town.

All the current manufactured outrage about the transition team emails Mueller legally requested is intended to be the opening salvo in making an immediate case for his dismissal.

Just thought you'd like to know. Nothing is set in stone, of course.  But Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, voiced his concerns that this was going to happen even before the email thing blew up.  And while he may be something of a hawk, Schiff has always come across as thoughtful and not inclined to hysterical pronouncements in the past.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 18, 2017, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 17, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
Rumour is Trump is going to shitcan Mueller on the 22nd, while Congress is out of town.

All the current manufactured outrage about the transition team emails Mueller legally requested is intended to be the opening salvo in making an immediate case for his dismissal.

Just thought you'd like to know. Nothing is set in stone, of course.  But Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, voiced his concerns that this was going to happen even before the email thing blew up.  And while he may be something of a hawk, Schiff has always come across as thoughtful and not inclined to hysterical pronouncements in the past.

I saw today that some Trump admin spokesperson claimed in no uncertain terms that "there have been no discussions whatsoever" about firing Mueller, which means of course that it's a foregone conclusion. If (when) it happens, I expect the Democrats to whine about it for a couple of days and then roll over, as usual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 18, 2017, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 17, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
Rumour is Trump is going to shitcan Mueller on the 22nd, while Congress is out of town.

All the current manufactured outrage about the transition team emails Mueller legally requested is intended to be the opening salvo in making an immediate case for his dismissal.

Just thought you'd like to know. Nothing is set in stone, of course.  But Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, voiced his concerns that this was going to happen even before the email thing blew up.  And while he may be something of a hawk, Schiff has always come across as thoughtful and not inclined to hysterical pronouncements in the past.

That would be amazingly illegal and unconstitutional (not that this would stop Trump), as only the ADA that hired him (not Sessions) can fire him.

My guess is that Trump will try to have him and Rod Rosenstein (the ADA) arrested outright, because that's the kind of banana republic we've become.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 18, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
I was doing some reading on this, and I can't find the article now, but it suggested that Trump would use executive orders to dissolve the inquiry.

Rosenstein, for all his issues, has made it clear he wont fire Mueller, and the person next in the chain of command from him is even less likely to do what Trump wants (crazy Cruz supporter).  Trump will have to pull the trigger himself, which is possibly the only thing that has stopped him so far.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 18, 2017, 08:26:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 18, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
I was doing some reading on this, and I can't find the article now, but it suggested that Trump would use executive orders to dissolve the inquiry.

Rosenstein, for all his issues, has made it clear he wont fire Mueller, and the person next in the chain of command from him is even less likely to do what Trump wants (crazy Cruz supporter).  Trump will have to pull the trigger himself, which is possibly the only thing that has stopped him so far.

Except that, again, he isn't legally empowered to do so.  Only Rosenstein can do that.  It's the only way special prosecutors/investigators can function.

This doesn't mean he won't try it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 18, 2017, 08:32:50 PM
I believe the reasoning is that he can use executive orders to abolish the position of special counsel,on the basis that the President is the ultimate law enforcement authority. 

Or he could call on Congress to defund it - Congress are willing to get into bed with Trump for insane tax cuts, so as long as there is a quid quo pro I can't see any reason they wouldn't do this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 18, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 18, 2017, 08:32:50 PM
I believe the reasoning is that he can use executive orders to abolish the position of special counsel,on the basis that the President is the ultimate law enforcement authority. 

Or he could call on Congress to defund it - Congress are willing to get into bed with Trump for insane tax cuts, so as long as there is a quid quo pro I can't see any reason they wouldn't do this.

That makes sense, given that Trump has consistently been unable to realize that executive orders cannot contradict standing law.  Which is why he keeps getting slapped around in court.

Congress could eliminate or defund the position, but not during an ongoing investigation.  The position occupies a niche between congressional & judicial responsibilities.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on December 18, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
They're already talking about how Mueller got emails from the Trump campaign "illegally" as if Mueller is the kind of person to make rookie mistakes like that. Of course it's all bullshit but as long as Fox News has something to beat over Mueller's head, nobody on the right (yes that includes Congressional Democrats) will do anything about firing him. Maybe they'll make some kind of general wishy-washy statement about allowing the (Trump-controlled) FBI to take on the "investigation" as a standard case (which will promptly go cold and won't even be mentioned anymore). The fact is there's no reason for Trump to hesitate on this. There is no one willing to hold him to any kind of standard whatsoever. He could have the Secret Service shoot Mueller in the back in broad daylight, and nothing would happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 19, 2017, 01:02:14 PM
There's also the bullshit about the Mueller team member who was having an affair with a fellow staffer, and used government phones to keep it a secret, and texted some anti-Trump stuff, which gave the propaganda arm of the GOP plenty of ammo.

Way to shoot yourself in the foot there, guy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/fbi-trump-russia.html?_r=0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 19, 2017, 02:47:32 PM
To be fair, this was going to happen regardless.

They're painting Mueller and Comey - card-carrying Catholic Republicans from one of the most conservative institutions in the US government - as raving agents of Teh Hillary.

That is, the ones who don't believe that Mueller is a double secret agent preparing to take down the Deep State as part of a convoluted plan by Trump because #followthewhiterabbit

They cried foul over the FBI accessing .gov emails that explicitly state in their terms of use that law enforcement will be given unfettered access to in the course of an investigation.  We're not dealing here with people who are interested in the facts.  Comey and Mueller could have been shown to have voted for Trump, and they'd still be evil libtards on a witch-hunt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 19, 2017, 03:42:15 PM
My levels of impotent rage and frustration are at all-time highs these days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 19, 2017, 05:58:51 PM
You could always join #TheResistance and post fact free conspiracy theories on Twitter all day.  I mean, they're not at Trumpian levels yet, Louise Mensch and co aside, but for instance, the freakout about Roy Moore being able to speak a sentence in shitty Russian, like DuoLingo isn't actually a thing, was cringeworthy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
Our buddy Devin Nunes is back on the case

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/20/house-republicans-quietly-investigate-doj-fbi-310121

QuoteA group of House Republicans has gathered secretly for weeks in the Capitol in an effort to build a case that senior leaders of the Justice Department and FBI improperly — and perhaps criminally — mishandled the contents of a dossier that describes alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to four people familiar with their plans.

A subset of the Republican members of the House intelligence committee, led by Chairman Devin Nunes of California, has been quietly working parallel to the committee's high-profile inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. They haven't informed Democrats about their plans, but they have consulted with the House's general counsel.

The people familiar with Nunes' plans said the goal is to highlight what some committee Republicans see as corruption and conspiracy in the upper ranks of federal law enforcement. The group hopes to release a report early next year detailing their concerns about the DOJ and FBI, and they might seek congressional votes to declassify elements of their evidence.

That final product could ultimately be used by Republicans to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into whether any Trump aides colluded with Russia during the 2016 campaign — or possibly even to justify his dismissal, as some rank-and-file Republicans and Trump allies have demanded. (The president has said he is not currently considering firing Mueller.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2017, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 21, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
Our buddy Devin Nunes is back on the case

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/20/house-republicans-quietly-investigate-doj-fbi-310121

QuoteA group of House Republicans has gathered secretly for weeks in the Capitol in an effort to build a case that senior leaders of the Justice Department and FBI improperly — and perhaps criminally — mishandled the contents of a dossier that describes alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to four people familiar with their plans.

A subset of the Republican members of the House intelligence committee, led by Chairman Devin Nunes of California, has been quietly working parallel to the committee's high-profile inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. They haven't informed Democrats about their plans, but they have consulted with the House's general counsel.

The people familiar with Nunes' plans said the goal is to highlight what some committee Republicans see as corruption and conspiracy in the upper ranks of federal law enforcement. The group hopes to release a report early next year detailing their concerns about the DOJ and FBI, and they might seek congressional votes to declassify elements of their evidence.

That final product could ultimately be used by Republicans to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into whether any Trump aides colluded with Russia during the 2016 campaign — or possibly even to justify his dismissal, as some rank-and-file Republicans and Trump allies have demanded. (The president has said he is not currently considering firing Mueller.)

I'm not sure what the point of that is.  The donor class got their tax cut so the re-election coffers will be open to the GOP, gerrymandering will still be in place by 2018, and evidence points towards a negative association with anyone Trump endorses.

So why not kick the Orange-Faced Shitgibbon to the curb, and then have President Pence or Ryan as the "nicer" face of plutocracy?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2017, 02:48:49 PM
A few reasons spring to mind:

1) if he's given them that, what else is he willing to give them?  The tax bill was shoddily bad, not just from an economic POV but a political one too.  Handwriten notes in the margins, specific exemptions to bribe senators into voting for it, no costing, no checking, no real debate...this signals to the Republican congress that they could take a shit on a piece of paper and it would probably get passed if there was enough graft to bring the votes in.

2) They own him.  If it turns out he did collude with Russia, which the evidence increasingly points to, it will destroy the (already waning) centre-right support for the Republicans for a generation.  They nominated and worked with a man who worked with Russia to win the election?  Anyone with a functioning brain will call them enablers of treason and spit on them as they pass in the streets.  They'll be a rump party appealing to hypocritical evangelicals, white nationalists and ancaps waving Kekistan flags while making jokes about helicoptor rides.  Unless they can muddy the waters and portray this as a witch hunt...

3) Going after the FBI and DoJ enables a significant amount of political lawlessness.  If the FBI is is bought to heel, someone reliable will be brought in to restructure the agency and likely have the final say over the top positions in other departments.  Someone like, say, Rudy Giuliani?  And then you can really steal.  Properly legitimised corruption without the possibility of law enforcement investigation, and perhaps even opening the door to using those tools of state to win elections and intimidate political rivals.

4) They actually agree with Trump.  Politically, I mean.  There's always been a seedy element of existential warfare and European far-right thought among certain elements of the GOP, and those elements are now firmly in control.  They view politics as warfare for survival, and in Trump they see someone who is willing to go to the lengths they deem necessary to "win".  One Congressman, a supporter of Bannon, once told a Congressional staffer years ago that he'd be happy living under a system like Franco's in Spain.  I suspect many more agree with him but just didn't say it out loud.  Or they agree with Putin's way of going about things, which to be honest isn't that much different.  They consider Russia an ally against decadent western cosmopolitan liberalism, and so any collusion is de facto justified because Hillary and Obama are worse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2017, 08:01:08 PM
I regret asking the question.



Where's the bourbon?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 27, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Fox News is reporting that AT&T is giving out $1000 bonuses to employees all thanks to Trumps new tax bill. Trump himself, naturally had to personally take credit for this, as well.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/12/20/at-t-to-give-employees-1000-bonuses-after-trump-signs-tax-bill.html

So I guess all the Trumpfans should be expecting their Trump Bonuses in the near future. They should all definitely be asking their bosses about it regularly to make sure they don't forget, or anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 27, 2017, 05:45:41 AM
I hope they strangle on it.

Maybe it could happen. Maybe the hookers they hire kick ball gags down their throats.

A girl can dream, can't she?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 27, 2017, 08:59:47 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 27, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Fox News is reporting that AT&T is giving out $1000 bonuses to employees all thanks to Trumps new tax bill. Trump himself, naturally had to personally take credit for this, as well.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/12/20/at-t-to-give-employees-1000-bonuses-after-trump-signs-tax-bill.html

So I guess all the Trumpfans should be expecting their Trump Bonuses in the near future. They should all definitely be asking their bosses about it regularly to make sure they don't forget, or anything.

Didn't AT&T just lay off a bunch of people too?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 27, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 27, 2017, 08:59:47 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 27, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Fox News is reporting that AT&T is giving out $1000 bonuses to employees all thanks to Trumps new tax bill. Trump himself, naturally had to personally take credit for this, as well.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/12/20/at-t-to-give-employees-1000-bonuses-after-trump-signs-tax-bill.html

So I guess all the Trumpfans should be expecting their Trump Bonuses in the near future. They should all definitely be asking their bosses about it regularly to make sure they don't forget, or anything.

Didn't AT&T just lay off a bunch of people too?

Yeah, and their "Trump Bonuses" had already been approved through negotiations with the union. That didn't stop AT&T, Trump, and Fox News from giving all the credit to Trump and the new tax bill. I'd just like to see Trumpfan expectations be as high as possible for some trickle down action. I know they have a remarkable talent for self-delusion, and will probably "see" some incredible windfall due to their herculean Trumpian efforts no matter what happens but at least the higher their expectations, the more entertaining their mental acrobatics will be.

Also, AT&T needs the Trump administration to approve their merger with Time-Warner, which is presumably their motive in all this rectal smoke-blowing with the idiot.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 28, 2017, 08:03:45 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 27, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 27, 2017, 08:59:47 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 27, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Fox News is reporting that AT&T is giving out $1000 bonuses to employees all thanks to Trumps new tax bill. Trump himself, naturally had to personally take credit for this, as well.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/12/20/at-t-to-give-employees-1000-bonuses-after-trump-signs-tax-bill.html

So I guess all the Trumpfans should be expecting their Trump Bonuses in the near future. They should all definitely be asking their bosses about it regularly to make sure they don't forget, or anything.

Didn't AT&T just lay off a bunch of people too?

Yeah, and their "Trump Bonuses" had already been approved through negotiations with the union. That didn't stop AT&T, Trump, and Fox News from giving all the credit to Trump and the new tax bill. I'd just like to see Trumpfan expectations be as high as possible for some trickle down action. I know they have a remarkable talent for self-delusion, and will probably "see" some incredible windfall due to their herculean Trumpian efforts no matter what happens but at least the higher their expectations, the more entertaining their mental acrobatics will be.

Also, AT&T needs the Trump administration to approve their merger with Time-Warner, which is presumably their motive in all this rectal smoke-blowing with the idiot.

I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised.
He can add it to his list of "accomplishments" that other people actually did, or that never even happened.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 28, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Ah, that is just classic Trump isn't it.  Now I'm just waiting for something to be Obama's fault and for him to issue an illegal order and it will be perfect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 28, 2017, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 28, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Ah, that is just classic Trump isn't it.  Now I'm just waiting for something to be Obama's fault and for him to issue an illegal order and it will be perfect.

He also needs to say something about Hillary as if the election were still going on
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2017, 12:33:57 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 28, 2017, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 28, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Ah, that is just classic Trump isn't it.  Now I'm just waiting for something to be Obama's fault and for him to issue an illegal order and it will be perfect.

He also needs to say something about Hillary as if the election were still going on

Also, something about an electoral landslide.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 01, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
 This Twitter thread  (https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/947641738482642944) discusses the idea about Putin's motives should Hillary have won the election. One point was that Putin is sitting on more hacked emails that would have otherwise been released in 2017. It makes me wonder if so many resignations in congress are preemptive flounces due to congress knowing they've been compromised.  More new faces in 2018 means fewer compromised politicians. 

Maybe not so much as a strategic move but a beneficial side effect? idk

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 01, 2018, 04:52:12 PM
Now if we could just clear out the world of big business
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2018, 11:57:37 PM
You guys have to read this.  It's amazing. 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t

Some choice quotes:

Quote"It was Ann Coulter who finally took the president-elect aside. "Nobody is apparently telling you this," she told him. "But you can't. You just can't hire your children."

QuoteBannon said he'd tried to push John Bolton, the famously hawkish diplomat, for the job as national-security adviser. Bolton was an Ailes favorite, too.

"He's a bomb thrower," said Ailes. "And a strange little fucker. But you need him. Who else is good on Israel? Flynn is a little nutty on Iran. Tillerson just knows oil."

"Bolton's mustache is a problem," snorted Bannon. "Trump doesn't think he looks the part. You know Bolton is an acquired taste."

"Well, he got in trouble because he got in a fight in a hotel one night and chased some woman."

"If I told Trump that," Bannon said slyly, "he might have the job."

Quote""I'll call [Murdoch]," said Ailes. "But Trump would jump through hoops for Rupert. Like for Putin. Sucks up and shits down. I just worry about who's jerking whose chain."

Quote"I can marry you! I'm an internet Unitarian minister," Kushner, otherwise an Orthodox Jew, said suddenly."

QuoteThen [Trump] imposed a set of new rules: Nobody touch anything, especially not his toothbrush. (He had a longtime fear of being poisoned, one reason why he liked to eat at McDonald's — nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 04, 2018, 01:19:10 PM
It gets even better.

Now, the White House is saying Bannon violated a NDA and is threatening to send the lawyers in.  Meanwhile, the London Times has alleged that Tony Blair indicated to Trump that he was under surveillance by British intelligence, while angling for a job in the Middle East.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Ziegejunge on January 04, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
I wish I could grow a mustache like John Bolton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fin on January 05, 2018, 04:56:03 AM
The NYT has thrown a bombshell.  One tidbit is a D.O.J. staffer to Sessions asking a congressional aide if there is "Any dirt on Comey". Another flame-thrower is the Keebler Elf wanting  daily negative press stories on Comey.  This article, combined with the "Fire and Fury" book that lands tomorrow, promises an interesting news cycle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 05, 2018, 06:19:45 AM
Seems that way...
Watergate prosecutor says there's enough evidence to charge Trump with obstruction (https://shareblue.com/watergate-prosecutor-says-theres-enough-evidence-to-charge-trump-with-obstruction/)

Quote"There is so much evidence now, and as was said, it's not one piece, it's the total picture. The pieces of the puzzle are fitting together and they spell obstruction," [Jill Wine-Banks] said.

Wine-Banks noted that regardless of whether Trump committed any wrongdoing prior to the investigation, he could still be found guilty of obstruction of justice for trying to undermine the probe by firing the person leading it.

"You don't need an underlying crime for the crime of obstruction," she said. "To impede an investigation, whether you were part of the original crime or not, you have committed a separate crime: Obstruction of justice."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
And now Trump is trying to get the book banned from publication.  In response, the publishers are stepping up the release date.

Meanwhile, the Mercer family, the financial backers of both Trump and of Breitbart magazine, have thrown Steve Bannon under a bus.  Apparently there's a strong push underway now to oust him from Breitbart.  Curiously, some elements of the press are reporting this includes the Mercers removing the funding for Bannon's private security.  Not that I would ever suggest there would be a nefarious motive in doing such a thing...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 05, 2018, 07:31:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 05, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
And now Trump is trying to get the book banned from publication.  In response, the publishers are stepping up the release date.

Meanwhile, the Mercer family, the financial backers of both Trump and of Breitbart magazine, have thrown Steve Bannon under a bus.  Apparently there's a strong push underway now to oust him from Breitbart.  Curiously, some elements of the press are reporting this includes the Mercers removing the funding for Bannon's private security.  Not that I would ever suggest there would be a nefarious motive in doing such a thing...

Top kek  :magick:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fin on January 06, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Minutes after a "Fox and Friends" segment titled 'Media questions President's mental stability', Trump takes to twitter to reassure the nation: "Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability  and being, like, really smart".  He then says he is a "very stable genius". Thanks for the reassurance Mr. President! 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
Is other greatest asset is that he is so humble.  He's the best at being humble, no-one can even come close to it.

So, since this isnt going to go away (now that the books is released), bets on screaming incoherent mental breakdown?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 06, 2018, 10:51:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
Is other greatest asset is that he is so humble.  He's the best at being humble, no-one can even come close to it.

So, since this isnt going to go away (now that the books is released), bets on screaming incoherent mental breakdown?

A beer and half eaten yogurt on him having it on Twitter then using Twitter to deny his psychotic twee... oh wait that already happens like on a daily basis.

It's almost like there's a second consciousness in him... something Dark and out of control. I should get another drink.  :|
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
The scarier possibility is that there is no consciousness in him. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 06, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
I think he is basically a semi-aware collection of assumptions and insecurities more than he is an actual person.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 12:03:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
The scarier possibility is that there is no consciousness in him.

Yup. All hollowed out and still going. He may well have no conscience, consciousness, or real will just a horrible drive to ruin everything out of sheer childlike malice. This before willingly, if ignorantly, being the lynch-pin of a horrible invocation that had a direct part in his rise to power (almost)absolute and history changing levels of fame, notoriety, and uncritical adoration from his fanatic supporters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 12:04:36 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 06, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
I think he is basically a semi-aware collection of assumptions and insecurities more than he is an actual person.

I could describe myself this way in some sense. I certainly have felt like it sometimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 07, 2018, 01:24:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 12:04:36 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 06, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
I think he is basically a semi-aware collection of assumptions and insecurities more than he is an actual person.

I could describe myself this way in some sense. I certainly have felt like it sometimes.

The difference is that you have the ability to describe yourself that way. Trump, on the other hand, is constitutionally incapable of that level of self-reflection.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 01:33:08 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 07, 2018, 01:24:35 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 12:04:36 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 06, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
I think he is basically a semi-aware collection of assumptions and insecurities more than he is an actual person.

I could describe myself this way in some sense. I certainly have felt like it sometimes.

The difference is that you have the ability to describe yourself that way. Trump, on the other hand, is constitutionally incapable of that level of self-reflection.

Somehow this makes me feel better about myself. Opinions of The Trumpster remain unchanged. One day soon I need to vent my spleen about it. Probably in High Weirdness. I got a whole tank of that and other weird shit to spread and nobody is using that board much anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2018, 02:25:19 AM
I mean, we're all  going to feel kinda bad when it turns out he has Alzheimers and spent most of the last 24 months sundowning while watching Tivo'd Fox and Friends.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 07, 2018, 03:55:11 AM
Awww.   :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2018, 02:25:19 AM
I mean, we're all  going to feel kinda bad when it turns out he has Alzheimers and spent most of the last 24 months sundowning while watching Tivo'd Fox and Friends.

Not really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on January 09, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
Someone should Tweet at him to request he post a video of himself drawing a clock showing the time at 11:10. It's a legitimate test for Dementia (http://www.alzheimersreadingroom.com/2009/12/alzheimers-clock-draw-test-detect-signs.html).


I bet he draws great clocks. The best clocks. And unlike Kim's clocks, his clocks work.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2018, 08:18:09 PM
The Fusion GPS testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee has been released, over the objections of the Republicans (I don't especially like Feinstein, but she's never been the shy and retiring type).

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/read-the-full-transcript-of-glenn-simpsons-senate-testimony/2700/

It's 312 pages, so make sure you're sat somewhere comfortable with a nice drink before starting.  Because this is a doozy.  Among other things:

- the FBI had an informant in the Trump campaign, who directly contacted them regarding their concerns
- according to Fusion GPS, one person involved with the dossier has been killed as a result of it
- Trump knew of Felix Sater's criminal connections in Russia
- Steele broke off cooperation with the FBI because he believed that the Trump campaign was influencing the investigation
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 10, 2018, 03:01:29 AM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/950800455797534720.html  Seth Abramson does a pretty thorough job breaking down the 300+ page testimony...unrolled at link.

ETA: https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/950800455797534720 The thread reader app seems to stop at 124 tweets.  This link is the original twitter "thread"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fin on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
I can't stop searching out & digesting all of this. No one's mentioned: the CDC is poised to release a public presentation on   how to survive a nuculear attack. Guess's on motivation are 1) They are trying to monkey-wrench  nuculear plans of our government's  desire to  protect us from fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.  2) There are real nuculear actions planned and it's gonna be a genuine P.S.A.  3)  What work of dystopian fiction am I living in?  Or is it non? P'luck me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 10, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.

wat
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on January 10, 2018, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 10, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.

wat

Too many ions and the water gets sucked out of you. Too few and the nutrients get sucked out.  :lol: :roll:


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2018, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
I can't stop searching out & digesting all of this. No one's mentioned: the CDC is poised to release a public presentation on   how to survive a nuculear attack. Guess's on motivation are 1) They are trying to monkey-wrench  nuculear plans of our government's  desire to  protect us from fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.  2) There are real nuculear actions planned and it's gonna be a genuine P.S.A.  3)  What work of dystopian fiction am I living in?  Or is it non? P'luck me.

Yeah, great.  Fuck off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 11, 2018, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
I can't stop searching out & digesting all of this. No one's mentioned: the CDC is poised to release a public presentation on   how to survive a nuculear attack.

Makes sense to me. I've been worried about the prospect ever since Trump got elected.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fin on January 11, 2018, 04:11:18 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2018, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
I can't stop searching out & digesting all of this. No one's mentioned: the CDC is poised to release a public presentation on   how to survive a nuculear attack. Guess's on motivation are 1) They are trying to monkey-wrench  nuculear plans of our government's  desire to  protect us from fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.  2) There are real nuculear actions planned and it's gonna be a genuine P.S.A.  3)  What work of dystopian fiction am I living in?  Or is it non? P'luck me.

Yeah, great.  Fuck off.
could you unwrap your response? Beyond  "fuck off again". If you care to of course.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fin on January 11, 2018, 04:20:31 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 10, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.

wat
In the movie "Dr. Strangelove", General Jack C. Ripper rationalises  a first strike for that insane reason. Of course, that's only a movie. The movie was shown to Putin at some prior administration event. He had never seen it before. Putin was not amused.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 11, 2018, 04:21:09 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 10, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 10, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
fluoridation in our waters that are depleting our essential bodily fluids.

wat

It's a refrence to the crazy general from Dr.Strangelove
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 19, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
HO HO HO

QuoteForeign governments aren't the only groups spending money in the hopes of currying favor with Trump. Companies are getting in on the action as well.

The National Mining Association and Chamber of Commerce have plunked down bags of money at Trump properties, even though (or perhaps because) they have substantial policy interests that can be addressed by the executive branch.

One private prison company is already reaping rewards. According to the Washington Post, executives and wardens from GEO group, which runs private prisons, "gathered for four days of meetings, dinner receptions and golf outings at the luxurious 800-acre Trump National Doral, [following] an intense effort by GEO Group to align itself with the president and his administration."

After that expenditure, GEO group — which also gave $225,000 to a pro-Trump super PAC and $250,000 to Trump's inaugural committee — "secured the administration's first contract for an immigration detention center, a deal worth tens of millions a year."

https://shareblue.com/disturbing-new-report-reveals-rampant-corruption-keeping-trumps-failing-properties-afloat/

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 20, 2018, 08:05:48 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 19, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
HO HO HO

QuoteForeign governments aren't the only groups spending money in the hopes of currying favor with Trump. Companies are getting in on the action as well.

The National Mining Association and Chamber of Commerce have plunked down bags of money at Trump properties, even though (or perhaps because) they have substantial policy interests that can be addressed by the executive branch.

One private prison company is already reaping rewards. According to the Washington Post, executives and wardens from GEO group, which runs private prisons, "gathered for four days of meetings, dinner receptions and golf outings at the luxurious 800-acre Trump National Doral, [following] an intense effort by GEO Group to align itself with the president and his administration."

After that expenditure, GEO group — which also gave $225,000 to a pro-Trump super PAC and $250,000 to Trump's inaugural committee — "secured the administration's first contract for an immigration detention center, a deal worth tens of millions a year."

https://shareblue.com/disturbing-new-report-reveals-rampant-corruption-keeping-trumps-failing-properties-afloat/

Looks like more and more folks are lining up to blow The Trump. Nothing like a president that can be bought for some shekels and a hummer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 22, 2018, 07:39:46 PM
A lot of the pro-Trump tabloids are still talking about Hillary, despite the election having ended well over a year ago. I'm starting to suspect that the writers of these rags may not even be sentient; that they may be something more like a chatbot or a parrot that only gives the appearance of communication as a sort of parlor trick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2018, 03:33:06 AM
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

QuotePresident Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

The West Wing confrontation marks the first time Mr. Trump is known to have tried to fire the special counsel. Mr. Mueller learned about the episode in recent months as his investigators interviewed current and former senior White House officials in his inquiry into whether the president obstructed justice.

Amid the first wave of news media reports that Mr. Mueller was examining a possible obstruction case, the president began to argue that Mr. Mueller had three conflicts of interest that disqualified him from overseeing the investigation, two of the people said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2018, 08:28:50 PM
And now McCabe, the FBI deputy director, has been resigned (or made to resign - it's not entirely clear).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42865202

QuoteThe Federal Bureau of Investigation's deputy director, whom US President Donald Trump repeatedly accused of political bias, has resigned.

Andrew McCabe was forced to step down ahead of his official retirement date in March, reports CBS News.

His exit from the top law enforcement agency comes a week after a report that Mr Trump wanted him out.

It was also reported last week that the president had asked Mr McCabe during an Oval Office meeting whom he voted for.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Monday's daily press briefing: "This decision was not made by the White House."

"The president wasn't part of this decision making process," she added.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2018, 09:14:33 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUvM8EAXcAIiB0V.jpg:large)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2018, 01:03:17 AM
Shit's kicking off tonight.  White House is refusing to enforce the newest set of Russia sanctions.  House Intelligence committee Republicans have voted to release a memo they say undermines the Russia investigation - without it being vetted by the DOJ and intelligence agencies first. And the DOJ and FBI are now officially under investigation by the same committee.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2018, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2018, 01:03:17 AM
Shit's kicking off tonight.  White House is refusing to enforce the newest set of Russia sanctions.  House Intelligence committee Republicans have voted to release a memo they say undermines the Russia investigation - without it being vetted by the DOJ and intelligence agencies first. And the DOJ and FBI are now officially under investigation by the same committee.
Well.. fuck
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2018, 09:27:57 PM
I found out that Linda McMahon, wife of the wrasslin' magnate Vince is secretary of small business. Wooo!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_McMahon
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
Dow Jones down 1175 points (4.6%).  Everyone grab your asses!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 06, 2018, 07:27:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2018, 02:18:22 AM
Dow Jones down 1175 points (4.6%).  Everyone grab your asses!

Yeah, my drug money is taking a beating.

And, of course, by drug money I mean money I will need in my old age to buy medicine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on February 07, 2018, 07:58:38 PM
Do people appointed by Trump count as Trump Hilarity?

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1FP0IZ?__twitter_impression=true (https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1FP0IZ?__twitter_impression=true)

QuoteEquifax (EFX.N) said in September that hackers stole personal data it had collected on some 143 million Americans. Richard Cordray, then the CFPB director, authorized an investigation that month, said former officials familiar with the probe.

But Cordray resigned in November and was replaced by Mulvaney, President Donald Trump's budget chief. The CFPB effort against Equifax has sputtered since then, said several government and industry sources, raising questions about how Mulvaney will police a data-warehousing industry that has enormous sway over how much consumers pay to borrow money.

The CFPB has the tools to examine a data breach like Equifax, said John Czwartacki, a spokesman, but the agency is not permitted to acknowledge an open investigation. "The bureau has the desire, expertise, and know-how in-house to vigorously pursue hypothetical matters such as these," he said.

Three sources say, though, Mulvaney, the new CFPB chief, has not ordered subpoenas against Equifax or sought sworn testimony from executives, routine steps when launching a full-scale probe. Meanwhile the CFPB has shelved plans for on-the-ground tests of how Equifax protects data, an idea backed by Cordray.

The CFPB also recently rebuffed bank regulators at the Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency when they offered to help with on-site exams of credit bureaus, said two sources familiar with the matter.

Quote...the CFPB fined credit bureaus more than $25 million just last year for over-marketing its monitoring services, which generated monthly fees.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:47:40 AM
People appointed by Trump absolutely count.  I mean, given Trump mostly spazzes out on Twitter, cries into his hamburgers and plays golf, we have to find something to do to pass the time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 09, 2018, 03:55:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:47:40 AM
People appointed by Trump absolutely count.  I mean, given Trump mostly spazzes out on Twitter, cries into his hamburgers and plays golf, we have to find something to do to pass the time.

Well, apparently, we can pass the time watching a military parade through the capitol, and Trump striking Mussolini poses while his throat-wattles wobble around horribly.

This is the funniest decade EVER.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:56:42 AM
I'll have you know Cadet Bone Spurs is himself a military man (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/us/politics/donald-trump-likens-his-schooling-to-military-service-in-book.html).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 09, 2018, 03:58:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:56:42 AM
I'll have you know Cadet Bone Spurs is himself a military man (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/us/politics/donald-trump-likens-his-schooling-to-military-service-in-book.html).

Yeah, more recently, there's a great pic of him doing the sloppiest salute ever witnessed by man.

By June, he'll be wearing medals on his suit jacket.  169% guaranteed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:59:59 AM
He can probably borrow some from from David Clarke:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMl_ia1X4AAKlO7.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 09, 2018, 04:00:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 09, 2018, 03:59:59 AM
He can probably borrow some from from David Clarke:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMl_ia1X4AAKlO7.jpg)

Oh, THAT fucking cunt.  IIRC, he's going to prison.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Yeah, that plane incident and follow up.  Once again, the Donald, clearly picking the best people.

In other news, WWIII nearly started in Syria a few days ago.  SAA (Syrian Arab Army) forces, using Russian "contractors" attacked a rebel command being "advised" by US troops, so the US retaliated...killing over 100 SAA soldiers and some of the Russians too.  Fortunately, Russia wanted such troops to be deniable for reason, and so is in little position to forcefully complain.

But what if Russian soldiers had been part of the attack?

And in other Russia news, the CIA are apparently buying stolen NSA data back from the Russians...and got a mysterious extra-helping (https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/) of Trump data too!  How kind.   
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2018, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Yeah, that plane incident and follow up.  Once again, the Donald, clearly picking the best people.

In other news, WWIII nearly started in Syria a few days ago.  SAA (Syrian Arab Army) forces, using Russian "contractors" attacked a rebel command being "advised" by US troops, so the US retaliated...killing over 100 SAA soldiers and some of the Russians too.  Fortunately, Russia wanted such troops to be deniable for reason, and so is in little position to forcefully complain.

But what if Russian soldiers had been part of the attack?

And in other Russia news, the CIA are apparently buying stolen NSA data back from the Russians...and got a mysterious extra-helping (https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/) of Trump data too!  How kind.

I am reasonably certain that US and Russian troops could slaughter each other in carload lots, and it wouldn't lead to a general war.

Troops are fungible, and nuclear war harms actual assets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2018, 01:02:44 AM
Yes, but that's assuming there are strategic thinkers on both sides.  I'm not convinced there are enough on either side any more.  Putin keeps stoking the Russian nationalist fires...dead Russian troops at the hands of the hated Americans would demand a response, which would have to be overwhelming both in other to succeed and to quieten Putin's nationalist critics who are waiting in the wings.  Trump wants to devolve decisions regarding small-yield nukes to battlefield commanders, so even if Trump himself doesn't want war with Russia, some idiot on the ground, likely of the "lets start fighting Iran and Hezbollah and Russia in Syria" variety will take the decision for him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2018, 01:05:13 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2018, 01:02:44 AM
Yes, but that's assuming there are strategic thinkers on both sides.  I'm not convinced there are enough on either side any more.  Putin keeps stoking the Russian nationalist fires...dead Russian troops at the hands of the hated Americans would demand a response, which would have to be overwhelming both in other to succeed and to quieten Putin's nationalist critics who are waiting in the wings.  Trump wants to devolve decisions regarding small-yield nukes to battlefield commanders, so even if Trump himself doesn't want war with Russia, some idiot on the ground, likely of the "lets start fighting Iran and Hezbollah and Russia in Syria" variety will take the decision for him.

Thing is, leaders aren't really interested in answering demands.  Putin does what Putin wants, and Trump does what Putin wants.

But yeah, local control of nukes is gonna be a festival.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2018, 01:35:51 AM
I meant demand in the sense of "would be required to do if he wants to stay in his job, and alive". The Russian far-right are especially prevalent in the military, and Russian paramilitaries returning from Ukraine, as well as the Russian Orthodox Church, and a lot of them don't like Putin already.  If Putin led it slide, there'd be serious repurcussions.  He'd look weak.  And Putin's reputation is all about how he's a strong leader...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2018, 01:55:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2018, 01:35:51 AM
I meant demand in the sense of "would be required to do if he wants to stay in his job, and alive". The Russian far-right are especially prevalent in the military, and Russian paramilitaries returning from Ukraine, as well as the Russian Orthodox Church, and a lot of them don't like Putin already.  If Putin led it slide, there'd be serious repurcussions.  He'd look weak.  And Putin's reputation is all about how he's a strong leader...

You make an excellent point.  But Putin could also use the resulting chaos for a purge.  It would be a gamble, but nobody ever called him timid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
True, I'm just not sure if that would go in his favour.

In other news, reading is still hard (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/breaking-with-tradition-trump-skips-presidents-written-intelligence-report-for-oral-briefings/2018/02/09/b7ba569e-0c52-11e8-95a5-c396801049ef_story.html?__twitter_impression=true&utm_term=.0541239e4df2).  Who knew it could be so complicated?

QuoteFor much of the past year, President Trump has declined to participate in a practice followed by the past seven of his predecessors: He rarely if ever reads the President's Daily Brief, a document that lays out the most pressing information collected by U.S. intelligence agencies from hot spots around the world.

Trump has opted to rely on an oral briefing of select intelligence issues in the Oval Office rather than getting the full written document delivered to review separately each day, according to three people familiar with his briefings.

Reading the traditionally dense intelligence book is not Trump's preferred "style of learning," according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

You know this story is bullshit, because it implies Trump is capable of learning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on February 11, 2018, 03:45:16 AM
It fills me with confidence that he'd still be allowed to read them in the first place.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 16, 2018, 11:30:04 PM
Boom.  13 Russians indicted (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html) on meddling in the US election

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

QuoteThe special counsel investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations on Friday with illegally trying to disrupt the American political process, including efforts designed to boost the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump and hurt that of his opponent, Hillary Clinton.

The indictment represents the first charges by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for meddling in the 2016 presidential election — the fundamental crime that he was assigned to investigate.

In a 37-page indictment filed in United States District Court, Mr. Mueller said that the 13 individuals have conspired since 2014 to violate laws that prohibit foreigners from spending money to influence federal elections in the United States.

The indictment charges that the foreigners falsely posed as American citizens, stole identities and otherwise engaged in fraud and deceit in an effort to influence the U.S. political process, including the 2016 presidential race.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 17, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
True, I'm just not sure if that would go in his favour.

In other news, reading is still hard (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/breaking-with-tradition-trump-skips-presidents-written-intelligence-report-for-oral-briefings/2018/02/09/b7ba569e-0c52-11e8-95a5-c396801049ef_story.html?__twitter_impression=true&utm_term=.0541239e4df2).  Who knew it could be so complicated?

QuoteFor much of the past year, President Trump has declined to participate in a practice followed by the past seven of his predecessors: He rarely if ever reads the President's Daily Brief, a document that lays out the most pressing information collected by U.S. intelligence agencies from hot spots around the world.

Trump has opted to rely on an oral briefing of select intelligence issues in the Oval Office rather than getting the full written document delivered to review separately each day, according to three people familiar with his briefings.

Reading the traditionally dense intelligence book is not Trump's preferred "style of learning," according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

You know this story is bullshit, because it implies Trump is capable of learning.

He learns, but at a negative rate
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
Samuel L Jackson is laying down the law on this one!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-shreds-apos-065954281.html

Makes a pretty good point though. Barely trained, armed teachers are not the solution. I don't know what it is but that ain't it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 26, 2018, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
Samuel L Jackson is laying down the law on this one!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-shreds-apos-065954281.html

Makes a pretty good point though. Barely trained, armed teachers are not the solution. I don't know what it is but that ain't it.

Robo-Cop style hall monitors, obviously.

"Alexa, lay down suppressive fire."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2018, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on February 26, 2018, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 26, 2018, 12:28:56 AM
Samuel L Jackson is laying down the law on this one!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-shreds-apos-065954281.html

Makes a pretty good point though. Barely trained, armed teachers are not the solution. I don't know what it is but that ain't it.

Robo-Cop style hall monitors, obviously.

"Alexa, lay down suppressive fire."
.
:lulz:....  :horrormirth:

There's no technical reason that can't happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 03, 2018, 09:22:20 AM
It occurred to me today that under the right circumstances Trump's wall could actually be beneficial. Hear me out:

We build trump's wall, and then connected to the ends of the wall we build two more walls extending north all the way to Canada. And then we build a fourth wall along the portion of the canadian border between these two walls. In this manner the red states are enclosed; by land at any rate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 06, 2018, 05:37:12 PM
So Mueller sent an indictment to one of Trump's former campaign advisers requiring2years worth of email between him and Roger Stone, Bannon, etc. And the guy just spent all morning drunk dialing cable news channels talking about how he isit going to comply because it's "ridiculous" and "just bullshit, man" and how they'd have to arrest him and they will find that harder to do than they think. Probably nothing explosive in the guy's inbox but made for an entertaining morning on the Twittersphere.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 06, 2018, 06:28:53 PM
Looks like he's competing with Carter Page for "most idiotic former Trump advisor".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 07, 2018, 05:14:41 PM
It'll be the Ides of March in about a week. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2018, 03:06:34 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-spending-debt-analysis-20180203-story.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 08, 2018, 06:59:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 08, 2018, 03:06:34 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-spending-debt-analysis-20180203-story.html

One of these days, that well is going to dry up, probably at the worst possible moment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 08, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
Deficits only matter if it's a Democratic president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 09, 2018, 12:01:52 AM
Just had a thought. Trump's supporters haven;t been swayed by the sensible reasons to not support Trump, but they might be swayed by deranged reasons. Specifically, a lot of them are conspiracy nuts so perhaps they could be convinced that the fact that he hasn't shown the world the space aliens they're keeping at Area 51 means that he's one of THEM
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 09, 2018, 07:47:49 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 09, 2018, 12:01:52 AM
Just had a thought. Trump's supporters haven;t been swayed by the sensible reasons to not support Trump, but they might be swayed by deranged reasons. Specifically, a lot of them are conspiracy nuts so perhaps they could be convinced that the fact that he hasn't shown the world the space aliens they're keeping at Area 51 means that he's one of THEM

He hasn't done shit about the alleged muslim terrorist training camps in Tennessee that people seem to know all about, but can't point to on Goggle Maps, either. Why is that, I wonder?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 09, 2018, 07:54:56 AM
http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/domestic-terrorism/terrorist-training-camps-in-the-us/660940716001

OMG! 35 across the U.S. in 2010, and now up to 50! Why isn't Trump doing anything about this!!!1
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 09, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html)

I don't even know what to make of this but if it leads to denuclearisation... I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 09, 2018, 05:12:51 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 09, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html)

I don't even know what to make of this but if it leads to denuclearisation... I guess we'll see.

Actually I think it might end with nuclear war
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 09, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 09, 2018, 05:12:51 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 09, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/major-announcement-coming-south-korea-north-korea-trump-000603040--abc-news-topstories.html)

I don't even know what to make of this but if it leads to denuclearisation... I guess we'll see.

Actually I think it might end with nuclear war

Yeah. buckle up
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2018, 04:32:54 AM
Fascinating that Trump tweets endlessly about Islamist terrorist attacks in the UK, but the moment a chemical warfare attack is undertaken, likely by Russia, he doesn't have a word to say...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 11, 2018, 05:26:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2018, 04:32:54 AM
Fascinating that Trump tweets endlessly about Islamist terrorist attacks in the UK, but the moment a chemical warfare attack is undertaken, likely by Russia, he doesn't have a word to say...

Imagine that. Almost as if he has a double interest.

Any word what the exact chemical was? I know the fella and his daughter are still in critical condition. The cop got really sick too if I remember correct. Must have been some kind of air dispersion I guess.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2018, 06:08:08 AM
No word as of yet.  A couple of the more popular agents, like sarin and (I believe) VX, have been ruled out by chem warfare experts, but that still leaves plenty of possibilities.

Amy chemical warfare units were also deployed in Salisbury yesterday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 11, 2018, 07:15:24 AM
Fuck. When I first heard of the story I didn't know it was a gas attack. I can see why people are beating the drums of War. Problem is there's no way to have a conventional War and a nuclear war would just destroy everybody. They got to be really sure it was Russia. I can't imagine who else would have a motive. Problem is I can't figure out why the Russians would want to ice somebody that they let go free in a prisoner Exchange if I have my info right. Much less why they would use a method so... Risky and prone to collateral damage.

And Trump has shit all to say.
Yay.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2018, 01:44:13 PM
It's probably not gas, nerve agents can come in liquid forms as well and that would be better for a targeted attack.  However nothing has been confirmed so far.

The other reason that Russia is the likely culprit is that terrorist groups and organised crime simply don't have the kind of sophisticated personnel or labs to create these kind of weapons.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 11, 2018, 05:40:37 PM
Admitting that I know practically nothing the thought occurs to me that perhaps criminals or terrorists could buy it. But you're right Russia is the most likely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 11, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 11, 2018, 01:44:13 PM
It's probably not gas, nerve agents can come in liquid forms as well and that would be better for a targeted attack.  However nothing has been confirmed so far.

The other reason that Russia is the likely culprit is that terrorist groups and organised crime simply don't have the kind of sophisticated personnel or labs to create these kind of weapons.

Question: Guy and daughter lived, which implies incorrect or ineffective dose. Would this not potentially implicate a third actor with access to similar but shittier tech? Russia acting through a proxy allowing deniability seems to be the general MO, assuming Russia is the main benefactor (Not that there are any other apparent).

Also, chances of Russian citizen acting, not Russian state? Guessing ex-spy probably has a few financial records of a couple of oligarchs. Or could be assumed to by someone of that nature. Would help explain the sloppy nature of events.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
Getting the components needed for a nerve toxin isn't easy.  In addition to the specific expertise and equipment needed to produce it, you then have to get it into the UK, because there is no way you can import those components without some very heavily scrutinized import licences.

Beyond that, it's a terribly expensive way to kill someone.  A guy with a gun, or a knife, is always a sure bet.  So why do you use a nerve toxin, or polonium or similar? To make it clear it was you, without saying it was you, and to send a message.  That message is you will die horribly and in pain and it will take weeks, and you deserve it for being traitor scum.

As for why this doesn't appear to have killed them, there could be a number of factors.  Dispersal may have caused a lower than lethal payload to be administered.  The spy and his daughter were found relatively quickly, and nerve agents take time to work (they make it so the body cannot produce important enzymes, leading to the eventual breakdown of the body's ability to maintain itself).  Nerve toxins also appear to be hard to use, the Tokyo sarin attacks should have killed hundreds but only managed to kill less than 10 because dispersal lessened the impact of the sarin.  It may also be a new compound, which would explain why they are cagey when it comes to naming what it actually is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 12, 2018, 12:05:33 AM
Appreciated. The sarin comparison is useful, as is the quick primer on how nerve agents actually work.

I'm still putting a fiver on Dacre as the culprit though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 12, 2018, 07:56:20 PM
I had a small side bet on it being the risotto at Zizzi's.  I know Salisbury very well, and Zizzi is overrated as fuck.

However, May's statement today confirms that it was a Novichok nerve agent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2018, 01:23:35 PM
And...Tillerson is out at the State Department.  Pompeo at the CIA is to take over State, and some horrible Bush-era black site rendition relic is to take over at the CIA.

Tillerson knew he was being fired on Friday, which may be why he made such a forceful statement blaming Russia for the Salisbury nerve agent attack - it was his parting shot at the administration.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 13, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
So, assuming that Putin ordered the hit. Further assuming that he knew a nerve toxin assassination was not going to go unnoticed by whom it may concern. He must have known zombie thatcher was going to get all hardass rhetoric on the subject. What's his next move?

Is this some tzarish dick waving thing? Like "what the fuck you gonna do about it now I have the US President in my back pocket?" or am I missing something?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2018, 01:59:17 PM
According to the latest reports, Tillerson didn't know he was going to be fired.  Interesting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2018, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 13, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
So, assuming that Putin ordered the hit. Further assuming that he knew a nerve toxin assassination was not going to go unnoticed by whom it may concern. He must have known zombie thatcher was going to get all hardass rhetoric on the subject. What's his next move?

Is this some tzarish dick waving thing? Like "what the fuck you gonna do about it now I have the US President in my back pocket?" or am I missing something?

Strangely enough, the Guardian just posted an article on the strategic logic of why Putin may have ordered this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/13/russia-west-ties-bind-skripal-poisoning-trump

QuoteRussia has already learned from intervening in Syria that there is almost no red line it can't cross there, no war crime so unspeakable that the west won't quietly let it slide rather than get dragged into another war where all the likely outcomes are bad. It learned from Ukraine that all is not entirely well in Nato, and from dabbling in the US election not only that social media is a gift to information warfare, but also that western democracy isn't completely resolute in defending its integrity; that even a tainted victory might be preferred to defeat. Now it's moved on to testing all the other ties that used to bind, and which could present an obstacle to its ambitions, from the once-special relationship to historical EU alliances. It will surely be watching hawk-like for any sign that Brexit has weakened solidarity between Britain, France and Germany, or that the EU is now more preoccupied with internal than external threats.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2018, 02:02:58 PM
In addition to that, it definitely is dick-waving...but for Russian domestic consumption.  There's a Presidential election coming up, Putin's popularity is slowly but surely decreasing, and no-one in Russia really believes Russia didn't do this.

It shows Putin is still top dog, he can brazenly kill traitors abroad and not suffer consequences.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 13, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
Yeah, BBC showed an clip from a state interview last night, filmed just before the hit apparently. "Is there anything you can't forgive?", Putin "Betrayal" (comedy turn to camera)

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 14, 2018, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2018, 01:59:17 PM
According to the latest reports, Tillerson didn't know he was going to be fired.  Interesting.

And then they summarily fired the staffer who said Tillerson didn't know.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2018, 04:38:06 PM
Yup, though apparently the guy in question was known as a Never-Trumper despite being a political appointee (?) so they were looking for an excuse.  In any event, State is now completely gutted.  Most major positions are unfilled.  41 ambassdorships, including to major countries like Germany, still have yet to be filled.  And Pompeo has a hate boner for both North Korea and Iran.

Next stop will be kicking out McMaster at the NSC and replacing him with John Bolton.  This is going to happen, it's only a matter of when.  And then Mattis will be outflanked on North Korea and Iran.  And then, if the negotiations even happen (North Korea has not yet responded to the US), Trump can blithely fuck them up and go on with the military action like he wanted to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 14, 2018, 04:52:29 PM
It's almost like the State Department has been intentionally crippled and gagged by someone with a vested interest in blunting America's ability to act diplomatically at all. Probably just a coincidence, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 14, 2018, 06:45:22 PM
Not to mention, Pompeo is a rabid climate change denier, for which the Venn diagram of his new job intersects a HELL of a lot more than his previous.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2018, 06:58:29 PM
Yeah, but climate change is a Chinese conspiracy, so that's best handled by threatening war with China.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 16, 2018, 05:48:04 AM
Quote from: LMNO on March 14, 2018, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 13, 2018, 01:59:17 PM
According to the latest reports, Tillerson didn't know he was going to be fired.  Interesting.

And then they summarily fired the staffer who said Tillerson didn't know.

"Those responsible for sacking those who have been sacked, have been sacked."
- Old English Prophecy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2018, 09:11:56 AM
Fuck! Another Ides of March come and gone uneventfully.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 17, 2018, 04:01:55 AM
McCabe fired, two days before being eligible for his pension.  Obstensibly for improper contact with the press, but everyone knows it's because he corroborated Comey's claims of improper firing by Trump and Sessions.

McMaster is due to be replaced as well, though apparently he is aware of this and is actively working with Trump to put in place a transition plan for his successor, whether that is Kellogg or the Moustache of Doom John Bolton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 22, 2018, 11:39:32 PM
Mcmaster and Dowd gone.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 22, 2018, 11:49:08 PM
MOUSTACHE OF DOOM TIME
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 23, 2018, 05:51:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2018, 11:49:08 PM
MOUSTACHE OF DOOM TIME

You know, I still haven't cashed out my 401k to buy Beans and Rice and Guns, yet.


Is it time, or am I already too late?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 23, 2018, 07:03:29 AM
If you've been saving a good bottle of wine, scotch or champagne, I'd drink it as soon as the confirmation hearings were done.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2018, 12:46:38 AM
So, Nunes wants to impeach Rod Rosenstein.

Rule of law very over, hilarity ensues.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2018, 01:57:25 AM
Yup.  Bannon's been allegedly making rounds behind the scenes to organise this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-pitches-white-house-on-plan-to-cripple-mueller-probe-and-protect-trump/2018/04/11/1ec5b1b2-3d9f-11e8-a7d1-e4efec6389f0_story.html

QuoteTrump boosters in Congress are preparing to take legislative action against Rosenstein and other Justice officials over the disclosure of documents related to the Russia investigation. That push is seen by Bannon and others in the White House as a cause that could prompt Trump to act and shift much of the Russia investigation to Capitol Hill, where Republicans control both chambers.

Trump remains furious with the Mueller probe, which on Wednesday he blasted on Twitter as "never ending and corrupt." He has also considered firing Rosenstein, whom he has criticized for approving surveillance applications of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which extended a warrant that partly relied on information that was funded in a roundabout way by Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign.

Bannon and his allies sense that Trump simply needs a nudge to fire Rosenstein, according to the people familiar with Bannon's discussions. They said Trump has recently told friends and aides that he is willing to engage in political warfare in the coming months to stop his presidency from being consumed by the investigation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2018, 02:34:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 12, 2018, 01:57:25 AM
Yup.  Bannon's been allegedly making rounds behind the scenes to organise this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-pitches-white-house-on-plan-to-cripple-mueller-probe-and-protect-trump/2018/04/11/1ec5b1b2-3d9f-11e8-a7d1-e4efec6389f0_story.html

QuoteTrump boosters in Congress are preparing to take legislative action against Rosenstein and other Justice officials over the disclosure of documents related to the Russia investigation. That push is seen by Bannon and others in the White House as a cause that could prompt Trump to act and shift much of the Russia investigation to Capitol Hill, where Republicans control both chambers.

Trump remains furious with the Mueller probe, which on Wednesday he blasted on Twitter as "never ending and corrupt." He has also considered firing Rosenstein, whom he has criticized for approving surveillance applications of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which extended a warrant that partly relied on information that was funded in a roundabout way by Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign.

Bannon and his allies sense that Trump simply needs a nudge to fire Rosenstein, according to the people familiar with Bannon's discussions. They said Trump has recently told friends and aides that he is willing to engage in political warfare in the coming months to stop his presidency from being consumed by the investigation.

This is the very definition of a soft coup.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2018, 05:18:24 AM
And Syria will be the perfect distraction, (which is the only reason I can assume that half a dozen air-fields haven't already been destroyed).  Assuming it doesn't blow up into something far worse...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2018, 10:07:51 PM
The President is showing his usual restraint and intelligence on Twitter

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984877999718895616

QuoteDOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2018, 06:14:42 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 12, 2018, 05:18:24 AM
And Syria will be the perfect distraction, (which is the only reason I can assume that half a dozen air-fields haven't already been destroyed).  Assuming it doesn't blow up into something far worse...

Syrian targets dumped on, public still not distracted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2018, 06:15:26 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 13, 2018, 10:07:51 PM
The President is showing his usual restraint and intelligence on Twitter

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984877999718895616

QuoteDOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!

You get the best cocaine when you're president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 14, 2018, 09:25:29 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2018, 06:14:42 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 12, 2018, 05:18:24 AM
And Syria will be the perfect distraction, (which is the only reason I can assume that half a dozen air-fields haven't already been destroyed).  Assuming it doesn't blow up into something far worse...

Syrian targets dumped on, public still not distracted.

To be fair, with a strike that pathetic, I wouldn't be distracted either.

Strategically it makes a certain kind of sense...the only retaliation Russia will be able to pursue for this is whning so hard all our ears bleed.  But at the same time, after a week of warning about dire consequences, I would have at the very least attempted to cripple the SAA's ability to fight (putting more of the cost of the war on the Russians and stretching their spending even further) and made some half-hearted attempt at regime decapitation.  Not super seriously on the second one, just enough to let Syria's leadership know that they will also be targeted for their actions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 14, 2018, 07:39:59 PM
I am 100% certain the whole charade was choreographed to project some shadow of American power into the conversation, but only to try and preserve the notion that Trump is somehow willing to buck the Russians. There was probably no actual goal other than making CNN say something nice about Trump for a change, and I'm sure it was all planned out over a week of teleconferences between the White House and Moscow. America makes a token strike, Russians makes a token protest, Trump gets to beat his chest, and the news has to admit he isn't openly behaving like a puppet (as long as you don't look too long or too hard, which they never do).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 16, 2018, 04:01:22 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

You'd think we'd know better by now, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 16, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

We taking bets on how long it takes Trump to retweet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 16, 2018, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

So I thought you were joking:
hxxps://twitter.com/hashtag/FRAZZLEDRIP?src=hash

Hilary is part of a cabal that kills children to drink their blood for adrenachrome? And that the McCanns sacrificed their daughter to this same group as an initiation...
This was one of the plots in The Invisibles wasn't it?

Cut through all the shit, all this wasted effort and time, though whatever carbon monoxide epidemic created the people who believe the above and that is the heart of what is the worst part of the Trump era culture:

The amount of time and effort that is SANK into this shit, distracting from real issues: the world is careening towards its darkest place in 80 years and no one has the time to look at the actual social issues because its tied up and eaten by what appears to be the manifestation of the tabloid god. Distraction with interesting sounding absurdity from the same old grey face scams The Conspiracy has been pulling since time Immoral:
The Rich continue to get richer and the wealth divide is increasing.
The Environment has not started to silently unfuck itself because we lost interest
Opioid dependency is prevalent, and if you are not addicted to these, then you must find some other way to provide pharma companies that slice of your pay.
Women are still at best not treated equally and objectified, or worse property for breeding and killed for seeking an education

But these are BORING problems, they are complex and difficult to solve.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 16, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2018, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

So I thought you were joking:
hxxps://twitter.com/hashtag/FRAZZLEDRIP?src=hash

Hilary is part of a cabal that kills children to drink their blood for adrenachrome? And that the McCanns sacrificed their daughter to this same group as an initiation...
This was one of the plots in The Invisibles wasn't it?

Cut through all the shit, all this wasted effort and time, though whatever carbon monoxide epidemic created the people who believe the above and that is the heart of what is the worst part of the Trump era culture:

The amount of time and effort that is SANK into this shit, distracting from real issues: the world is careening towards its darkest place in 80 years and no one has the time to look at the actual social issues because its tied up and eaten by what appears to be the manifestation of the tabloid god. Distraction with interesting sounding absurdity from the same old grey face scams The Conspiracy has been pulling since time Immoral:
The Rich continue to get richer and the wealth divide is increasing.
The Environment has not started to silently unfuck itself because we lost interest
Opioid dependency is prevalent, and if you are not addicted to these, then you must find some other way to provide pharma companies that slice of your pay.
Women are still at best not treated equally and objectified, or worse property for breeding and killed for seeking an education

But these are BORING problems, they are complex and difficult to solve.

I know, right?! What an amazing time to be alive. We truly are history's most blessed generation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 16, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
I know, I barely have time to keep up with this bullshit, let alone engage with it in any way. 

If the Dems retake Congress this year, I also expect the conspiracy nonsense to reach a never before seen fever pitch, to attempt offsetting a potential impeachment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 17, 2018, 02:05:39 AM
Why the hell are they still on about Hillary anyway? She lost the election (sort of), she's no longer relevant.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2018, 03:24:26 AM
We're well beyond any kind of logic at this stage. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2018, 05:06:37 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
I know, I barely have time to keep up with this bullshit, let alone engage with it in any way. 

If the Dems retake Congress this year, I also expect the conspiracy nonsense to reach a never before seen fever pitch, to attempt offsetting a potential impeachment.

I can barely contain myself!  :banana:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 18, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 16, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2018, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

So I thought you were joking:
hxxps://twitter.com/hashtag/FRAZZLEDRIP?src=hash

Hilary is part of a cabal that kills children to drink their blood for adrenachrome? And that the McCanns sacrificed their daughter to this same group as an initiation...
This was one of the plots in The Invisibles wasn't it?

Cut through all the shit, all this wasted effort and time, though whatever carbon monoxide epidemic created the people who believe the above and that is the heart of what is the worst part of the Trump era culture:

The amount of time and effort that is SANK into this shit, distracting from real issues: the world is careening towards its darkest place in 80 years and no one has the time to look at the actual social issues because its tied up and eaten by what appears to be the manifestation of the tabloid god. Distraction with interesting sounding absurdity from the same old grey face scams The Conspiracy has been pulling since time Immoral:
The Rich continue to get richer and the wealth divide is increasing.
The Environment has not started to silently unfuck itself because we lost interest
Opioid dependency is prevalent, and if you are not addicted to these, then you must find some other way to provide pharma companies that slice of your pay.
Women are still at best not treated equally and objectified, or worse property for breeding and killed for seeking an education

But these are BORING problems, they are complex and difficult to solve.

I know, right?! What an amazing time to be alive. We truly are history's most blessed generation.

I've forgotten how to smile at this shit, I have forgotten how to be a holy man
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2018, 12:54:16 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 18, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 16, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2018, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 16, 2018, 01:24:31 AM
Because some nutter will inevitably come here to tell us all about it, you should probably know that "The Coming Storm/QAnon" nutters are now claiming there is a video of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin molesting and then killing a girl in a Satanic ritual, cutting her face off and wearing it as a mask. 

They would show you the evidence for this, but the entire deep web is down (yes, all of it) and screenshots are (((globalist))) science or something.  The name of the video is #frazzledrip.

And I honestly thought pizzagate was as fucking stupid as things could get.

So I thought you were joking:
hxxps://twitter.com/hashtag/FRAZZLEDRIP?src=hash

Hilary is part of a cabal that kills children to drink their blood for adrenachrome? And that the McCanns sacrificed their daughter to this same group as an initiation...
This was one of the plots in The Invisibles wasn't it?

Cut through all the shit, all this wasted effort and time, though whatever carbon monoxide epidemic created the people who believe the above and that is the heart of what is the worst part of the Trump era culture:

The amount of time and effort that is SANK into this shit, distracting from real issues: the world is careening towards its darkest place in 80 years and no one has the time to look at the actual social issues because its tied up and eaten by what appears to be the manifestation of the tabloid god. Distraction with interesting sounding absurdity from the same old grey face scams The Conspiracy has been pulling since time Immoral:
The Rich continue to get richer and the wealth divide is increasing.
The Environment has not started to silently unfuck itself because we lost interest
Opioid dependency is prevalent, and if you are not addicted to these, then you must find some other way to provide pharma companies that slice of your pay.
Women are still at best not treated equally and objectified, or worse property for breeding and killed for seeking an education

But these are BORING problems, they are complex and difficult to solve.

I know, right?! What an amazing time to be alive. We truly are history's most blessed generation.

I've forgotten how to smile at this shit, I have forgotten how to be a holy man

This is why Vex and I GRIN.  It still counts, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on April 22, 2018, 10:58:23 PM
"MSNBC guest exposes reasons behind 'goddess of disruption' Kellyanne Conway's CNN lie-fest on Cohen"

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/msnbc-guest-exposes-reasons-behind-goddess-disruption-kellyanne-conways-cnn-lie-fest-cohen/

If Kellyanne Conway is an avatar of Eris, the Trump 'Administration' is starting to make sense to me, other than 'Tax cuts for the wealthy are worth treason,' of course.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 23, 2018, 11:44:01 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-israelis-hear-echoes-ancient-emperor-155859705.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-israelis-hear-echoes-ancient-emperor-155859705.html)

They're comparing Donald Trump to Cyrus the Great. Let me say that again.

They're comparing Donald Trump to Cyrus the Great.

He's going to let them build that Third Temple.

Hold onto your butts here comes the apocalypse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2018, 02:00:14 AM
Hopefullt this will lead to a conflict that will finally destroy thrice-accursed Jerusalem once and for all
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 24, 2018, 05:33:34 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2018, 02:00:14 AM
Hopefullt this will lead to a conflict that will finally destroy thrice-accursed Jerusalem once and for all

:kingmeh:

People in Jerusalem don't count as actual people, right?  Right right right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2018, 07:04:45 AM
I've got nothing against the actual inhabitants; I just want the city itself to be destroyed. Preferably in a way that keeps it ferom being rebuilt again
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 25, 2018, 12:48:50 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2018, 07:04:45 AM
I've got nothing against the actual inhabitants; I just want the city itself to be destroyed. Preferably in a way that keeps it ferom being rebuilt again

It's kind of a package deal.

So tell me, what's your problem with Jerusalem?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on April 25, 2018, 07:35:54 PM
 :drama1:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 26, 2018, 12:09:14 AM
Mostly the fact that it's sacred to Christians, Jews, and Muslims (hence my description of it as "thrice accursed"), and a symbol of and anchor to the stupidity and barbarism of the past.

It's a hotbed of superstitious abrahamic nutjobs, It's almost like if what you would get if the mythos around Roswell had sexist and homophobic undertones
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 26, 2018, 12:13:29 AM
Plus if anyone's going to build a temple there it ought to be us. That city's basically a giant version of the apple.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: axod on April 26, 2018, 10:29:12 AM
The day before yesterday, as I went outside to repair a garden wall, I noticed a mourning dove looking back at me with a branch in its beak. Thats when "I realized all my dreams are only memories."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 26, 2018, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

Shandor has seen it! He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on April 26, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

sounds like the founding of america to me - why do you hate america?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 26, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: MMIX on April 26, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

sounds like the founding of america to me - why do you hate america?

:mic drop:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on April 26, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

Surely peace will finally come to the world then! :lulz:

Also

Quote from: MMIX on April 26, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

sounds like the founding of america to me - why do you hate america?

:lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: ReverendJesus on April 29, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: MMIX on April 26, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

sounds like the founding of america to me - why do you hate america?
:mittens:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2018, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: MMIX on April 26, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2018, 01:32:12 AM
So, the general concept here is to destroy 4000 years of history, incidentally killing a hundred thousand people or so, to escape barbarism?

:lulz:

sounds like the founding of america to me - why do you hate america?

They borrowed my spanner and never gave it back.  :rogpipe:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 30, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
So, today Israel rolls out SHOCKING NEWS that Iran was seeking NUCLEAR WEAPONS (15 years ago).

Pompeo also tells Saudi Arabia to knock it off vis-a-vis Qatar and the blockade.  He says this while undertaking a tour of US regional allies.

Someone hit a bunch of Iranian-linked targets in Syria last night.  Curiously, the Pentagon have not yet issued a denial of responsibility.

I've always wanted to see a reboot of the Iraq War, as performed by imbeciles, in a much larger, strong and more unified country.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2018, 12:59:43 PM
What do we make of the three released North Korean prisoners?



Adjacently, the orange fuck's gonna get the Nobel, isn't he?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2018, 03:24:11 PM
Depends how many of the Nobel Prize selection committee (whose identities are secret) have been stopped from coming into America.

It would probably go to South Korea's President...if they give it out for this.  I'm not convinced that what Trump says is happening on the Korean Peninsula ("denuclearization") is what Kim Jong Un says is happening ("recognition of North Korea as a de facto nuclear power and sovereign state, ending the Korean War").  Which means the talks are almost certainly going to fall apart.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
Yeah, the talks should be kind of funny. 

But does that mean that the Korea talks are merely coincidental to Trump, or did his lunatic presidency in some way get the countries to start talking?  Like, would the talks be happening regardless of who sat on the US throne? 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2018, 04:55:44 PM
I think the more important, strategic-level change here is North Korea's acquisition of ICBM technology
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 11, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
Yeah, that makes sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 15, 2018, 02:59:42 AM
"Trump vows to help China save Chinese jobs. Really."

I think the title of the article says it all. (I barely resisted the temptation to post this on the High Weirdness Board.)

Here's the link: https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/14/17352088/trump-zte-china-trade-war
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2018, 04:34:42 AM
What a surprise, DPRK now says that it wont attend the summit if the US insists on denuclearisation. 

So now, the US has two options: go ahead with the summit while dropping those demands, making the US look weak and ineffective,

or

Insist on denuclearisation, making North Korea call off the summit, making the US look inflexible and greedy in its demands.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 16, 2018, 12:15:43 PM
I totally should have seen this coming.  It's hilarious.  Trump fell for it 100%.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 16, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
More importantly, how does this effect Spanky's nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 16, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
It must be nice to have a competent supervillain in charge
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 16, 2018, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 16, 2018, 12:15:43 PM
I totally should have seen this coming.  It's hilarious.  Trump fell for it 100%.

I totally called this, but I expected the sucker punch to be a bit more exciting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 16, 2018, 08:25:36 PM
I see it more as jab, jab, jab... jab, jab jab... and on and on.

Cain had a really good meme on FB about this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 16, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 16, 2018, 08:25:36 PM
I see it more as jab, jab, jab... jab, jab jab... and on and on.

Cain had a really good meme on FB about this.

I am all about being petty, even in geopolitics.  It's almost a sicker burn.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 17, 2018, 01:56:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2018, 04:34:42 AM
What a surprise, DPRK now says that it wont attend the summit if the US insists on denuclearisation. 

So now, the US has two options: go ahead with the summit while dropping those demands, making the US look weak and ineffective

or

Insist on denuclearisation, making North Korea call off the summit, making the US look inflexible and greedy in its demands.

Wait, can't the US just pull the very same dick move and go back to insisting on denuclearization once the summit is already well underway
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
Sure, if they don't want to get anything and put all future US negotiations into doubt by entering this one on false pretexts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
Sure, if they don't want to get anything and put all future US negotiations into doubt by entering this one on false pretexts.
I feel like this isn't going to be a strong deterrent to the Trump administration.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 02:48:46 PM
And why hasn't some Russian agent served Mueller a polonium sandwich yet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Because it's all going according to plan.

Honestly, if I was a Russian intelligence operative, you know what I'd be planning right now? Blatantly and obviously supporting the Democrats in 2020, with a very clear crumb trail back to Moscow.

Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.  Meanwhile, 50% of the voting population will think the other 50% are traitor-supporting scum.  Each side will be convinced the other is working with Russia, is illegitimate and unfit to rule.  Throw in a few coordinated protests, maybe encourage a bit of violence and then sit back and watch as the USA rips itself apart.

Russia doesn't care who sits in the White House.  It cares about paralysing the normal function of the US government, giving it a free hand in its near abroad and areas of interest like Syria.  Best way to do that is to take advantage of US hyperpartisanship, and that doesn't mean backing any one player fully.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 17, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Sometimes you scare the shit out of me. 


That can work.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Because it's all going according to plan.

Honestly, if I was a Russian intelligence operative, you know what I'd be planning right now? Blatantly and obviously supporting the Democrats in 2020, with a very clear crumb trail back to Moscow.

Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.  Meanwhile, 50% of the voting population will think the other 50% are traitor-supporting scum.  Each side will be convinced the other is working with Russia, is illegitimate and unfit to rule.  Throw in a few coordinated protests, maybe encourage a bit of violence and then sit back and watch as the USA rips itself apart.

Russia doesn't care who sits in the White House.  It cares about paralysing the normal function of the US government, giving it a free hand in its near abroad and areas of interest like Syria.  Best way to do that is to take advantage of US hyperpartisanship, and that doesn't mean backing any one player fully.

Now that you've said it, it's obvious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 17, 2018, 05:21:33 PM
What scares me the most about that is that it can achieved by as little as one Russian operative, and would likely be an unshakable success if it was like 3 of them with a few leaked emails monologuing their evil plan
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on May 17, 2018, 06:10:26 PM
I've been thinking about that too -- they don't have to knowledgably collude with anybody, they just have to drop some ammo crates for opposition to load into the accusation gun.

I don't know how we recover from this, that kind of trust/faith in the electoral institution (or the parties) is easy to destroy but hard to rebuild.



Personally, I'm feeling a bit warmer towards Comey's opinion - that maybe Trump shouldn't be impeached, because it lets Americans off the hook too easy. Trump is like an overdue wildfire. In his wake, new things will grow, things which have been in the shade for a long time. Maybe we've gotta let the fire burn?

I'm of the Discordian opinion that Aftermath only comes after Bureaucracy breaks itself. Let acceleration play itself out. The shitty parts of the system have to come to the surface and express themselves there, so they can be understood and confronted in honest terms. Trump is the walking personification of what's wrong with the current system. We could walk away from the Trump years with a strengthened immune system.  Maybe...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 17, 2018, 06:42:48 PM
I don't think impeachment would do much, other than an emotional catharsis for much of the country.  If Trump did anything, he underscored the shitty current state of US politics.  Him going away doesn't change that state -- in fact, it could make him a scapegoat, leaving the rest untouched. 

What I'd like to see is an overall discrediting of the hard-right GOP and their worldview.  Not sure that's gonna happen, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
I mean, yes, you're going to need to deal with the fact that a good 35% of your country is absolutely batshit insane sooner or later.

Aside from the obvious reasons for impeaching Trump, I favour that because I think impeaching Trump may send the crazies over the edge, and give you a chance to do just that.  Otherwise, it's just kicking the problem down the road, until you get a President who can run a half competent PR campaign, knows how government works, has the respect of Congress and utterly steamrolls what is left of your republic.

It's probably better to do that now, before the irreversible climate change wrecks the coastline of most of the world and makes anywhere inbetween the tropics almost uninhabitable, sparking resource wars and flows of immigrants that make the current Middle East look minor by comparison.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 17, 2018, 06:10:26 PM
I've been thinking about that too -- they don't have to knowledgably collude with anybody, they just have to drop some ammo crates for opposition to load into the accusation gun.

I don't know how we recover from this, that kind of trust/faith in the electoral institution (or the parties) is easy to destroy but hard to rebuild.



Personally, I'm feeling a bit warmer towards Comey's opinion - that maybe Trump shouldn't be impeached, because it lets Americans off the hook too easy. Trump is like an overdue wildfire. In his wake, new things will grow, things which have been in the shade for a long time. Maybe we've gotta let the fire burn?

I'm of the Discordian opinion that Aftermath only comes after Bureaucracy breaks itself. Let acceleration play itself out. The shitty parts of the system have to come to the surface and express themselves there, so they can be understood and confronted in honest terms. Trump is the walking personification of what's wrong with the current system. We could walk away from the Trump years with a strengthened immune system.  Maybe...

Gonna be really hard on poor folks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
I mean, yes, you're going to need to deal with the fact that a good 35% of your country is absolutely batshit insane sooner or later.

Aside from the obvious reasons for impeaching Trump, I favour that because I think impeaching Trump may send the crazies over the edge, and give you a chance to do just that.  Otherwise, it's just kicking the problem down the road, until you get a President who can run a half competent PR campaign, knows how government works, has the respect of Congress and utterly steamrolls what is left of your republic.

It's probably better to do that now, before the irreversible climate change wrecks the coastline of most of the world and makes anywhere inbetween the tropics almost uninhabitable, sparking resource wars and flows of immigrants that make the current Middle East look minor by comparison.

Also this.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 08:05:55 PM
Lastly, there are some things that are too vile to share an atmosphere with.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 17, 2018, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
I mean, yes, you're going to need to deal with the fact that a good 35% of your country is absolutely batshit insane sooner or later.

Aside from the obvious reasons for impeaching Trump, I favour that because I think impeaching Trump may send the crazies over the edge, and give you a chance to do just that.  Otherwise, it's just kicking the problem down the road, until you get a President who can run a half competent PR campaign, knows how government works, has the respect of Congress and utterly steamrolls what is left of your republic.

It's probably better to do that now, before the irreversible climate change wrecks the coastline of most of the world and makes anywhere inbetween the tropics almost uninhabitable, sparking resource wars and flows of immigrants that make the current Middle East look minor by comparison.

Good points.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 09:43:16 PM
As awful as Russian interference in our elections is, the fact is they've done nothing but pour gasoline on the fire that has been burning America from the inside out for 200 years already. Their goal probably is, like Cain suggests, to hamstring America's ability to act effectively to impede Russia's international aims. But at this point, I'm not sure America even has an identity beyond our superpower status. At least not an identity strong enough to keep the country from collapsing. Not only in terms of political and military policy, but as a viable political entity of any kind.

And I have to admit that, besides the inevitable campaign of ethnic and political cleansing that would arise from such a collapse, I'm okay with the end of America. There's nothing about this fundamentally defective experiment in "equality" that's even worth saving anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 09:43:16 PM
As awful as Russian interference in our elections is, the fact is they've done nothing but pour gasoline on the fire that has been burning America from the inside out for 200 years already. Their goal probably is, like Cain suggests, to hamstring America's ability to act effectively to impede Russia's international aims. But at this point, I'm not sure America even has an identity beyond our superpower status. At least not an identity strong enough to keep the country from collapsing. Not only in terms of political and military policy, but as a viable political entity of any kind.

And I have to admit that, besides the inevitable campaign of ethnic and political cleansing that would arise from such a collapse, I'm okay with the end of America. There's nothing about this fundamentally defective experiment in "equality" that's even worth saving anymore.

I've been to actual failed nations way back in the day, and I'm gonna disagree.  This is by no means even in the same ballpark.  You are offended by America's failures on a philosophical level; just wait until you see actual failures on civil structure and infrastructure.

It will allow you to see things in an entirely new prospective, in the same manner that hitting your thumb with a hammer will take your attention off of your backache.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 09:43:16 PM
As awful as Russian interference in our elections is, the fact is they've done nothing but pour gasoline on the fire that has been burning America from the inside out for 200 years already. Their goal probably is, like Cain suggests, to hamstring America's ability to act effectively to impede Russia's international aims. But at this point, I'm not sure America even has an identity beyond our superpower status. At least not an identity strong enough to keep the country from collapsing. Not only in terms of political and military policy, but as a viable political entity of any kind.

And I have to admit that, besides the inevitable campaign of ethnic and political cleansing that would arise from such a collapse, I'm okay with the end of America. There's nothing about this fundamentally defective experiment in "equality" that's even worth saving anymore.

I've been to actual failed nations way back in the day, and I'm gonna disagree.  This is by no means even in the same ballpark.  You are offended by America's failures on a philosophical level; just wait until you see actual failures on civil structure and infrastructure.

It will allow you to see things in an entirely new prospective, in the same manner that hitting your thumb with a hammer will take your attention off of your backache.

I was being too dramatic. Of course I don't want the actual civil infrastructure to collapse. I meant that "America" as a cohesive union of 50 states that obviously hate each other is nearing the end of its life as a useful concept. The federal government exists to ensure a relatively consistent "citizenship experience" for citizens of all 50 states. But it's clear that its ability to do that is not only failing but being actively sabotaged. Soon, the power it has to enforce sanity will be turned on its head and used to enforce the opposite instead. At that point, a split between 30 batshit crazy neo-feudalist kingdoms and 20 relatively modern and sane mini-republics is preferable to a zombie mega-nation unified by the threats and whims of a tyrannical imperial throne.

I'm just saying I'd rather see (Federal) America collapse and die than see it survive at the cost of everything that justifies its existence (which is a dwindling list, anyway). 50 individual states without any allegiance to each other would be a bad outcome, but the combined endgame of Russia and the GOP would be worse. As I don't have much faith in our ability to avoid both, I'm on the side of the former.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 10:29:53 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 17, 2018, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2018, 09:43:16 PM
As awful as Russian interference in our elections is, the fact is they've done nothing but pour gasoline on the fire that has been burning America from the inside out for 200 years already. Their goal probably is, like Cain suggests, to hamstring America's ability to act effectively to impede Russia's international aims. But at this point, I'm not sure America even has an identity beyond our superpower status. At least not an identity strong enough to keep the country from collapsing. Not only in terms of political and military policy, but as a viable political entity of any kind.

And I have to admit that, besides the inevitable campaign of ethnic and political cleansing that would arise from such a collapse, I'm okay with the end of America. There's nothing about this fundamentally defective experiment in "equality" that's even worth saving anymore.

I've been to actual failed nations way back in the day, and I'm gonna disagree.  This is by no means even in the same ballpark.  You are offended by America's failures on a philosophical level; just wait until you see actual failures on civil structure and infrastructure.

It will allow you to see things in an entirely new prospective, in the same manner that hitting your thumb with a hammer will take your attention off of your backache.

I was being too dramatic. Of course I don't want the actual civil infrastructure to collapse. I meant that "America" as a cohesive union of 50 states that obviously hate each other is nearing the end of its life as a useful concept. The federal government exists to ensure a relatively consistent "citizenship experience" for citizens of all 50 states. But it's clear that its ability to do that is not only failing but being actively sabotaged. Soon, the power it has to enforce sanity will be turned on its head and used to enforce the opposite instead. At that point, a split between 30 batshit crazy neo-feudalist kingdoms and 20 relatively modern and sane mini-republics is preferable to a zombie mega-nation unified by the threats and whims of a tyrannical imperial throne.

I'm just saying I'd rather see (Federal) America collapse and die than see it survive at the cost of everything that justifies its existence (which is a dwindling list, anyway). 50 individual states without any allegiance to each other would be a bad outcome, but the combined endgame of Russia and the GOP would be worse. As I don't have much faith in our ability to avoid both, I'm on the side of the former.

Oh, yeah, I'm totally about that.

But it isn't going to happen that way, because unlike 1860, the asshats are evenly distributed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 17, 2018, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Because it's all going according to plan.

Honestly, if I was a Russian intelligence operative, you know what I'd be planning right now? Blatantly and obviously supporting the Democrats in 2020, with a very clear crumb trail back to Moscow.

Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.  Meanwhile, 50% of the voting population will think the other 50% are traitor-supporting scum.  Each side will be convinced the other is working with Russia, is illegitimate and unfit to rule.  Throw in a few coordinated protests, maybe encourage a bit of violence and then sit back and watch as the USA rips itself apart.

Russia doesn't care who sits in the White House.  It cares about paralysing the normal function of the US government, giving it a free hand in its near abroad and areas of interest like Syria.  Best way to do that is to take advantage of US hyperpartisanship, and that doesn't mean backing any one player fully.

Brilliant! You've just scared the hell out of me, but your plan is brilliant!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 19, 2018, 04:14:39 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 17, 2018, 06:10:26 PM
I've been thinking about that too -- they don't have to knowledgably collude with anybody, they just have to drop some ammo crates for opposition to load into the accusation gun.

That's part of it at any rate.

In any case I think it's likely that Trump didn't collude and that Russia acted on it's own. Not to necessarily undermine confidence in the democratic process, but because Trump by itself represented an unprecedented opportunity to undermine the functioning of the American government, and one unlikely to be repeated if not acted upon. Why would they bother to seek his approval or assistance? He'd just fuck it up. He fucks things up. That's what he does and that's the main point of Russia manipulating things to put him in charge.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2018, 10:18:28 PM
Is it just me, or is South Korean President Moon Jae-in starting to sound a bit like Neville Chamberlain?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 12:42:48 AM
Trump Gave Up Everything For Nothing With North Korea, And Now What?

From the article/interview:

"O'DONNELL: President Trump has already gone farther than any other American president certainly in stepping toward North Korea in recognizing and saying very, very favorable things about the North Korean leader, the likes of which we've never heard from an American president.

KELLY: Yeah, it's kind of curious, actually, what the president has done. One of the things people are worried about in the analyst community, especially among hawks if you will, is the president gave Kim the summit without really getting anything in return for it. Meeting the American president is, if you're a Korean dictator, it proves North Korea is a real state, it's independent, it's a real country and not sort of a failed socialist cul-de-sac. This is why no American president has ever met a North Korean leader, and Trump gave that up for nothing with which in my opinion was a huge error.

O'DONNELL: Professor Kelly from South Korea, thank you very much for joining us. I really appreciate it."

Here's the link: https://crooksandliars.com/2018/05/trump-gave-everything-nothing-north-korea

So much for Comrade Spanky's negotiating skills.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 24, 2018, 02:16:44 AM
"The best deals".  And to be honest, this was inevitable.  Someone who a) has the attention span of a concussed duckling and b) actively goes out of his way to spurn the advice of experts and c) thinks the political world works exactly like the business world was always going to end up giving things away for free.  There's no way it wasn't going to happen.  It's Dunning-Kruger personified, he thinks everything runs like business does, and with enough bluster and intimidation he can barrel on through.

I mean, just look at that "Libya option" shit the other week.  What do I really not want to remind a nuclear armed state about, going into the negotiations?  Probably about that time a long-term adversary of the USA gave up its nukes, the USA backed a rebellion against that leader, and that leader got knifed in the arse to death by a mob.  And then on the other hand offering to make Kim Jong Un "secure" and rich.  Nukes = security, as far as the North Korean regime is concerned.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
I've, pretty much, given up trying to convince people that government is not a business, and that business skills are not transferable into politics. But, maybe it's time for me to rethink my arguments.

In any case, that "Libya Option" thing is a glaring example of poor management skills. Comrade Spanky can't even manage Pence and Bolton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
I've, pretty much, given up trying to convince people that government is not a business, and that business skills are not transferable into politics.

You think that's fun, try convincing someone that managing government debt and finances best uses an approach diametrically opposite to what works best for individuals and families.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 24, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
I've, pretty much, given up trying to convince people that government is not a business, and that business skills are not transferable into politics.

You think that's fun, try convincing someone that managing government debt and finances best uses an approach diametrically opposite to what works best for individuals and families.


You guys just aren't THINKIN' WITH YOUR GUT.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
To quote a man, "I've been thinking with my gut for 20 years, and I've come to the conclusion it's got shit for brains."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
Donald thought with his gut today and cancelled the summit.

South Korea wasn't informed either, going by the panic at the Blue House and urgent requests for clarification from the Americans (this would be easier if, say, there were an Ambassador in South Korea to whom the South Koreans could speak with, but of course Trump hasn't appointed one of those yet).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2018, 06:23:12 PM
Didn't he even like, write and sign a letter cancelling?

From what I heard, it's obvious he wrote it himself, because it's a tragedy of language.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
He did, and it is.  You can tell Stephen Miller's gone through and edited it for spelling and punctuation, because it lacks random capital letters and whatnot, but it's still terrible

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd92X2YVQAAR-k4.jpg:large)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 24, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
I guess thats a step up from announcing it from twitter while on the throne.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
Well, the letter was posted on Twitter, so...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
Donald thought with his gut today and cancelled the summit.

South Korea wasn't informed either, going by the panic at the Blue House and urgent requests for clarification from the Americans (this would be easier if, say, there were an Ambassador in South Korea to whom the South Koreans could speak with, but of course Trump hasn't appointed one of those yet).

Saw that.  If I were trump, I'd make the same person the ambassador to North and South Korea, and then not tell that guy shit, either.  Because why not?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 07:03:12 PM
There is a 169% chance Trump wrote that himself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 24, 2018, 07:07:41 PM
Ok, well maybe he didn't write it on the John?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 24, 2018, 07:07:41 PM
Ok, well maybe he didn't write it on the John?

No, it appears he even used a spell checker.

But Grammarly can't fix stupid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: bpseudopod on May 24, 2018, 07:08:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/999647796218269697?s=20
A link to the Twitter announcement, for those who must see to believe.

I find it odd that Trump would make a thinly-veiled nuclear threat over Kim's propaganda department being at business as usual. Does he really think that he can make Kim's administration completely overturn its public stance on the United States overnight just by offering the possibility of negotiations?

Can he? I know that an American president reaching out directly to a North Korean dictator is unprecedented, but I can't say I have an understanding of the value that would have to Kim.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
12 years almost to the day, and she's doing it again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-impeachment-is-not-a-policy-agenda/ar-AAxICQH?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 24, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on May 24, 2018, 02:50:04 PM
I've, pretty much, given up trying to convince people that government is not a business, and that business skills are not transferable into politics.

You think that's fun, try convincing someone that managing government debt and finances best uses an approach diametrically opposite to what works best for individuals and families.

Your basic talking points must be much, much better than mine. I've never gotten anywhere close to arguing management of debt and revenue with anyone who thinks governments can be successfully run like a business. But, like I wrote above, maybe it's time for me to rethink my arguments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 25, 2018, 01:56:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
Donald thought with his gut today and cancelled the summit.

South Korea wasn't informed either, going by the panic at the Blue House and urgent requests for clarification from the Americans (this would be easier if, say, there were an Ambassador in South Korea to whom the South Koreans could speak with, but of course Trump hasn't appointed one of those yet).

Saw that.  If I were trump, I'd make the same person the ambassador to North and South Korea, and then not tell that guy shit, either.  Because why not?

It would be in keeping with his general modus operandi.  I also think making someone Ambassador to North Korea would be accepting that North Korea is a legal separate state, which would also be in keeping with Trump's inability to grasp complex situations.  According to Wolff's book, the minute people start explaining things to him, he gets up and leaves the room.  Literally just walks out.  Hates being "talked down to", because he has both a massive inferiority complex (which allegedly was one of the reasons he stopped the summit - to do it before the North Koreans did.  "You're not breaking up with me, I'm breaking up with you!") and a raging case of Dunning-Kruger
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2018, 02:02:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2018, 01:56:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 24, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
Donald thought with his gut today and cancelled the summit.

South Korea wasn't informed either, going by the panic at the Blue House and urgent requests for clarification from the Americans (this would be easier if, say, there were an Ambassador in South Korea to whom the South Koreans could speak with, but of course Trump hasn't appointed one of those yet).

Saw that.  If I were trump, I'd make the same person the ambassador to North and South Korea, and then not tell that guy shit, either.  Because why not?

It would be in keeping with his general modus operandi.  I also think making someone Ambassador to North Korea would be accepting that North Korea is a legal separate state, which would also be in keeping with Trump's inability to grasp complex situations.  According to Wolff's book, the minute people start explaining things to him, he gets up and leaves the room.  Literally just walks out.  Hates being "talked down to", because he has both a massive inferiority complex (which allegedly was one of the reasons he stopped the summit - to do it before the North Koreans did.  "You're not breaking up with me, I'm breaking up with you!") and a raging case of Dunning-Kruger

So basically Mike from Sasol. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 25, 2018, 02:18:57 AM
Maybe?  Not going to lie, not familiar with the reference.  Mike Thomas, VP of Sasol's US subsidiary?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 25, 2018, 02:29:57 AM
Early Thursday morning, I posted the following comment in this thread:

'In any case, that "Libya Option" thing is a glaring example of poor management skills. Comrade Spanky can't even manage Pence and Bolton.'

(At the time, it was my assumption that Comrade Spanky had lost control of his minions.)

However, a little later, my wife was watching some political talking head on the TV, as I was leaving the house for a long drive. As I opened the front door, I heard the talking head make the claim that the "Libya Option" statements by Pence and Bolton were done with Comrade Spanky's prior approval.

So, as I was driving along, I kept wondering if I had gotten it all wrong. That is,

1. Did Comrade Spanky really lose control of Pence and Bolton?

(This implies that Pence and Bolton are both trying to sabotage the peace process.)

2. Or, as per the talking head, had Comrade Spanky really approved of his minions statements in advance?

(This implies that Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are even dumber than I thought was possible.)

So, does anyone have any thoughts, or insights on this matter? Are there even more possibilities that I've yet to consider?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2018, 02:47:42 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2018, 02:18:57 AM
Maybe?  Not going to lie, not familiar with the reference.  Mike Thomas, VP of Sasol's US subsidiary?

No, Mike Thomas is a good guy.

No, Mike the Engineer from my acid plant days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 25, 2018, 02:58:21 AM
Oh, that Mike.  Yeah, pretty much.

And Brother Mythos, it's possible that the reality is a combination of the two. Trump says whatever the last person who spoke to him and didn't bore him says, and that was likely Bolton in all cases.   He doesn't really have a planned approach for North Korea, because he doesn't really have any policy prescriptions or beliefs, and refuses to listen to people with relevant expertise.  So likely it's a case that yes, Bolton did have approval, but Bolton also likely led Trump up the garden path in the first place.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 25, 2018, 04:16:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2018, 02:58:21 AM
Oh, that Mike.  Yeah, pretty much.

And Brother Mythos, it's possible that the reality is a combination of the two. Trump says whatever the last person who spoke to him and didn't bore him says, and that was likely Bolton in all cases.   He doesn't really have a planned approach for North Korea, because he doesn't really have any policy prescriptions or beliefs, and refuses to listen to people with relevant expertise.  So likely it's a case that yes, Bolton did have approval, but Bolton also likely led Trump up the garden path in the first place.

That sounds like a reasonable explanation of the situation. Thanks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 25, 2018, 04:18:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2018, 02:58:21 AM
Oh, that Mike.  Yeah, pretty much.

And Brother Mythos, it's possible that the reality is a combination of the two. Trump says whatever the last person who spoke to him and didn't bore him says, and that was likely Bolton in all cases.   He doesn't really have a planned approach for North Korea, because he doesn't really have any policy prescriptions or beliefs, and refuses to listen to people with relevant expertise.  So likely it's a case that yes, Bolton did have approval, but Bolton also likely led Trump up the garden path in the first place.

It occurs to me that Mike wasn't actually a bad person, just deluded about his own merits.

To get Trump, you need that AND malice.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 25, 2018, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on May 25, 2018, 02:29:57 AM
Early Thursday morning, I posted the following comment in this thread:

‘In any case, that “Libya Option” thing is a glaring example of poor management skills. Comrade Spanky can’t even manage Pence and Bolton.’

(At the time, it was my assumption that Comrade Spanky had lost control of his minions.)

However, a little later, my wife was watching some political talking head on the TV, as I was leaving the house for a long drive. As I opened the front door, I heard the talking head make the claim that the “Libya Option” statements by Pence and Bolton were done with Comrade Spanky’s prior approval.

So, as I was driving along, I kept wondering if I had gotten it all wrong. That is,

1. Did Comrade Spanky really lose control of Pence and Bolton?

(This implies that Pence and Bolton are both trying to sabotage the peace process.)

2. Or, as per the talking head, had Comrade Spanky really approved of his minions statements in advance?

(This implies that Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are even dumber than I thought was possible.)

So, does anyone have any thoughts, or insights on this matter? Are there even more possibilities that I’ve yet to consider?


Or,

3. That talking head on TV is lying out of their ass.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 25, 2018, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 25, 2018, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on May 25, 2018, 02:29:57 AM
Early Thursday morning, I posted the following comment in this thread:

'In any case, that "Libya Option" thing is a glaring example of poor management skills. Comrade Spanky can't even manage Pence and Bolton.'

(At the time, it was my assumption that Comrade Spanky had lost control of his minions.)

However, a little later, my wife was watching some political talking head on the TV, as I was leaving the house for a long drive. As I opened the front door, I heard the talking head make the claim that the "Libya Option" statements by Pence and Bolton were done with Comrade Spanky's prior approval.

So, as I was driving along, I kept wondering if I had gotten it all wrong. That is,

1. Did Comrade Spanky really lose control of Pence and Bolton?

(This implies that Pence and Bolton are both trying to sabotage the peace process.)

2. Or, as per the talking head, had Comrade Spanky really approved of his minions statements in advance?

(This implies that Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are even dumber than I thought was possible.)

So, does anyone have any thoughts, or insights on this matter? Are there even more possibilities that I've yet to consider?


Or,

3. That talking head on TV is lying out of their ass.

Lying. Making it up. Expressing an opinion as fact. Yes, that is another possibility. Thanks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 03, 2018, 12:24:15 AM
Our First Lady has not been seen in some time. I wonder if she's entered the Federal Witness Protection Program.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 03, 2018, 03:40:38 AM
A new flowerbed been planted at the White House garden, you mean.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 03, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
You mean she's been recalled by the KGB (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) because the investigation's getting too close
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 04, 2018, 01:39:30 AM
Or, maybe that sinkhole caved in her escape tunnel, with her still inside of it.

I know the "National Park Service says sinkhole at White House poses no threat." But, can you really trust those guys? I mean, aren't they the guys in charge of all of the Federal swamps?

And, are we to really believe it's a coincidence that as per the below article, "The incident occurred just days after a larger 4-foot-by-4-foot sinkhole opened in front of President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida."

Here's the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/389480-national-park-service-says-sinkhole-at-white-house-poses-no
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 04, 2018, 03:43:33 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 04, 2018, 01:39:30 AMI know the "National Park Service says sinkhole at White House poses no threat." But, can you really trust those guys? I mean, aren't they the guys in charge of all of the Federal swamps?

"No threat" sounds about right to me. What's the worst that could happen? White House collapses? That's not a problem in the current state of affairs; If anything that's potentially a solution.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2018, 03:55:45 AM
Pretty sure Melania Trump is dead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 04, 2018, 08:39:55 AM
I would hope that she has decided to walk out on him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 04, 2018, 08:39:55 AM
I would hope that she has decided to walk out on him.

The result would be the same.

This is America, Faust, people who get out of line wind up being buried by Stephen Miller, who is so incompetent at hiding bodies that you get sinkholes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 04, 2018, 06:59:02 PM
I asked #TheResistance and they said Melania acted as a translator between Trump and Putin because both her and Putin are fluent in German, and she was bumped off for Knowing Too Much....which is about what I've come to expect from Twitter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2018, 10:09:18 PM
Fucking PATHETIC.  :lulz:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-latest-trump-holds-patriotism-event-without-eagles/ar-AAyeZKe?ocid=spartanntp

Do we have a cringe emote?  Because we really need a cringe emote.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2018, 01:19:13 AM
Looks like Gingrinch is backpedaling on the self-pardon thing.  I'm not sure I agree with him, that the congressional reaction would necessarily be as bad as he thinks, mostly because Congress are so supine that nothing less than Melania's corpse stuffed into the White House freezers would rouse them (and even that is 50/50)....but I suspect he has now realised Trump is actually considering it, and that would mean Trump having to admit guilt for obstruction of justice and collusion with Russia - which I highly doubt Trump realises - and that would be a disaster beyond anything thus far, and it would irrevocably taint everyone who threw in with Trump by association.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 06, 2018, 01:29:25 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 06, 2018, 01:19:13 AM
Looks like Gingrinch is backpedaling on the self-pardon thing.  I'm not sure I agree with him, that the congressional reaction would necessarily be as bad as he thinks, mostly because Congress are so supine that nothing less than Melania's corpse stuffed into the White House freezers would rouse them (and even that is 50/50)....but I suspect he has now realised Trump is actually considering it, and that would mean Trump having to admit guilt for obstruction of justice and collusion with Russia - which I highly doubt Trump realises - and that would be a disaster beyond anything thus far, and it would irrevocably taint everyone who threw in with Trump by association.

Yeah, I think the GOP would have him bumped off first.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 06, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
White House contractor arrested at checkpoint on attempted murder warrant

Did this "contractor" bungle his "contract" on a White House resident who recently had a "contract put out on her" by a well know American Crime Family?

Here's a link: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/politics/white-house-contractor-arrested/index.html

Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 10:49:10 PM
Doobie doobie doooooooooooo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-calls-for-russia-to-be-reinstated-to-g-7-threatens-allies-on-trade/ar-AAyogSS?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 09, 2018, 01:56:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 09, 2018, 01:57:13 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 09, 2018, 01:56:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.

If nothing else says "Go fetch the Jacobins", this does.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 09, 2018, 04:17:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 10:49:10 PM
Doobie doobie doooooooooooo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-calls-for-russia-to-be-reinstated-to-g-7-threatens-allies-on-trade/ar-AAyogSS?ocid=spartanntp

It's amazing how he consistently takes Russia's side on almost every issue.

It's almost like the pee tape is real.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 09, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Trump is now jabbering about pardoning Mohammed Ali.

Ali's conviction does not exist, as it was overturned in 1971, so there is nothing to pardon.

:um:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 09, 2018, 09:04:09 PM
Of course Trump would only pardon a black man who is a) dead and b) already pardoned.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 09, 2018, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 09, 2018, 09:04:09 PM
Of course Trump would only pardon a black man who is a) dead and b) already pardoned.

Overturned.  A pardon implies acceptance of guilt.  An overturned verdict is an acquittal.

So basically, he's trying to make Ali guilty again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 09, 2018, 10:02:42 PM
Oh, well then yeah.  Now it makes even more sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 10, 2018, 03:22:50 PM
What we really need is some kind of global embargo on american made goods. It would either deliver a much needed coup de grace to the american manufacturing sector or at the very least a much needed fuck you to one of the major populations of americans that voted for Trump
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
The more tariffs Trump puts on foreign goods, the more likely that is to happen.

I believe the current EU tit-for-tat sanctions on US goods were chosen precisely to affect industries in pro-Trump states.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 10, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 10, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
The more tariffs Trump puts on foreign goods, the more likely that is to happen.

I believe the current EU tit-for-tat sanctions on US goods were chosen precisely to affect industries in pro-Trump states.

Excellent!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 10, 2018, 07:47:30 PM
Canada just did it. And so Trump backed out of a G7 agreement because of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 10, 2018, 09:08:36 PM
He is building a wall, between every nation and the US.

This either means he is confident enough that the US can exist in a xenophobic bubble, that the gravity thrusters are complete and the U.S is ready to detach itself from earth and go explore the cosmos.

Or he has no plan and is is creating lasting damage that could take many times his presidency to correct.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 12, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
I genuinely hope the talks today go well and that Kim isn't leading Trump around by the nose just to renege on anything agreed.
I'm fully prepared to give Trumps team credit if he accomplishes nuclear disarmament of NK, I suspect it won't be as smooth as they are making it out to be but if there is a path with back and forth and not just a lot of wasted time then at least thats one way the world might hold off getting even more shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
I keep hoping for the best, but the initial signs aren't so good.

Trump just signed away on further military drills and potentially removing US military forces from South Korea, for the promise of talks and a signature on something that looks suspiciously like the 1992 joint agreement (http://www.nti.org/media/pdfs/aptkoreanuc.pdf).

Also the talks were just between Trump and Kim, which has me all kinds of nervous.  Trump can promise crazy shit that he cannot effectively cash in such negotiations, and so can Kim.  Furthermore, if Kim's a puppet head for the North Korean military, as many suspect is the case, then he may not actually be allowed to follow up on any of his promises.

Not to mention we still have the outstanding issue of North Korea using a biological agent to carry out an assassination on foreign soil, which really needs to be addressed.  That's a war crime, and someone needs to hang for that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 12, 2018, 12:28:22 PM
To be fair Russia did the same in the UK, it seems to be coming back into fashion. On the bright side, it may not be possible to get conclusive answers as to what they actually agreed in those talks, their memory is built on shifting sands, and unless there was a stenographer in there its entirely possible either or both will claim those talks never happened if it doesn't look like its going well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
Trust me, whoever ordered and carried out that order on the part of Russia should be hanged as well.  Because otherwise everyone is going to be doing it, in which case we may as well not bother with laws of war at all.

I strongly suspect what will happen now is that North Korea won't make any substansial concessions, Trump will not admit that he got rolled by a grifter from Pyongyang, where they don't even have capitalism, claim a huge win, and North Korea will make use of its increased stature with regard to South Korea and the other regimes it has covert dealings with.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 12, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
In other words, a con PR stunt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 12, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 12, 2018, 02:18:43 PM
In other words, a con PR stunt.

More like a used car just got sold, sight unseen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 12, 2018, 05:28:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 12, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
I genuinely hope the talks today go well and that Kim isn't leading Trump around by the nose just to renege on anything agreed.

I just hope the talks don't end with a nuclear war. Given that one of them is an insane despot and the other is the leader of North Korea I don't really trust either of them to maintain a cool head and not make things worse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 12, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
It's a communications thing.  When you say certain words or phrases, for example, "Islamofascists", you have put yourself in a box and communication has stopped.  Doesn't matter if the word is accurate or not, doesn't matter if you only refer to certain members of a religion...Even if correct, it's still stupid.  The fact is that it's a "placard" that advertises where you get your ideas.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 13, 2018, 02:05:14 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 09, 2018, 01:57:13 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 09, 2018, 01:56:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 08, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Have we talked yet about fosta-sesta, the anti-free-speech bill that this idiot and the republican congress passed in april?

That's the bill that makes it functionally impossible for sex workers to function without a pimp, right?

That's the one.

Furhermore, it also makes most online dating and personals ads sites functionally illegal.

If nothing else says "Go fetch the Jacobins", this does.

It seems that, not to be outdone, the EU has recently proposed an even worse internet censorship bill

http://www.alphr.com/politics/1009470/article-13-EU-what-is-it-copyright
https://saveyourinternet.eu/
https://boingboing.net/2018/06/07/thanks-axel-voss.html
https://www.maketecheasier.com/eu-article-13-copyright-protection-proposal/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2018, 09:44:47 PM
And then this also happened:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/exclusive-trump-looking-to-erect-tent-cities-to-house-unaccompanied-children/ar-AAyyupt?ocid=spartanntp

"HHS officials confirmed that they're looking at the Fort Bliss site along with Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene and Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo for potential use as temporary shelters. "

Needless to say, there's no point in building a tent city in a temperate area.  You lose half the effect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2018, 10:53:22 PM
Oh, fuck.  What a rube.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dem-senators-move-to-halt-potential-us-troop-withdrawal-from-s-korea/ar-AAyAO8D?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2018, 12:19:18 AM
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35272159_10157345891398812_8533488478233559040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=fa4a41d9b00cc13ad9db22aff3a6ac72&oe=5BA60706)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 15, 2018, 03:26:22 AM
Kim looks like he is wondering if this guy is as stupid as he seems, or if it's just an act to throw him off guard.

Personally, I think it's both i.e. he pretends to be pretending to be stupid so nobody can tell how stupid he really is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 15, 2018, 03:52:24 AM
Trump Jr offers the wrong response to concerns that the GOP is 'cult-like'

As per the article:

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) upped the ante a bit this week on his frustrations with Donald Trump and his party's direction, telling reporters yesterday that the GOP has almost become "cultish" toward the president.

The retiring Republican senator added, "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party."

Donald Trump Jr. appeared on Fox News this morning and was asked about Corker's comments. His response was ... unexpected.

    Trump Jr. didn't totally reject the characterization. Instead, after he was played a clip of Corker's remarks, he said, "You know what, if it's a cult, it's because they like what my father is doing."

    "You see real Americans actually winning for a change," Trump Jr. continued. "Conservatives actually getting things done."

Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-jr-offers-the-wrong-response-concerns-the-gop-cult

I know it's just Fredo being Fredo, but as I haven't seen it anywhere else yet, I call dibs on The Republicult™.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 15, 2018, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 15, 2018, 03:26:22 AM
Kim looks like he is wondering if this guy is as stupid as he seems, or if it's just an act to throw him off guard.

Personally, I think it's both i.e. he pretends to be pretending to be stupid so nobody can tell how stupid he really is.

or more like he thinks he's pretending to be stupid, but doesn't realize that he doesn't need to because he's already stupid
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 15, 2018, 06:23:05 PM
Sometimes, then sometimes he's stupid, but pretending to be even stupider to cover up the fact that he is a sociopath.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 16, 2018, 03:55:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2018, 12:19:18 AM
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35272159_10157345891398812_8533488478233559040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=fa4a41d9b00cc13ad9db22aff3a6ac72&oe=5BA60706)

When I first saw this photo, I honestly thought it had been photoshopped.

Even I didn't think Comrade Spanky was so far gone as to have actually done that!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2018, 09:10:58 AM
Trump's so enamoured with the North Korean way of life he's now talking about how awesome their propaganda is and how when Kim speaks, the North Korean people "sit up and pay attention" (and I'm sure being dragged off to Camp 14 to have your fingernails ripped out has nothing to do with that).

He thinks FOX News is insufficiently devoted to his leadership, and that the official propagand outlet of one of the world's most repressive regimes is a model for US journalists to follow.

Mattis is going to straight up murder him and Pence one day.  Just you watch.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 16, 2018, 09:48:17 AM
He would be the type to be impressed by literally the worst country in the world. And make no mistakeNorth Korea is indeed the worst country in the world. People in impoverished war-torn dictatorships in subsaharan africa and the middle east and the former iron curtain can say to themselves "well at least I don't live in North Korea"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on June 16, 2018, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 16, 2018, 03:55:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2018, 12:19:18 AM
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35272159_10157345891398812_8533488478233559040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=fa4a41d9b00cc13ad9db22aff3a6ac72&oe=5BA60706)

When I first saw this photo, I honestly thought it had been photoshopped.

Even I didn't think Comrade Spanky was so far gone as to have actually done that!

Yeah I was thinking something like that; then I realised that what he is doing isn't actually saluting but moving his hand out of the way so the general can grab him by the junk more easily
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2018, 02:17:46 PM
You can do anything when you're a North Korean general...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on June 16, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 16, 2018, 02:17:46 PM
You can do anything when you're a North Korean general...

except keeping breathing, that's kind of moot I hear
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 18, 2018, 04:28:21 AM
Hey, is there any chance of this (https://boingboing.net/2018/06/17/the-pharma-wars.html) actually happening? It's probably a long shot, but if it actually happened I think it would be the one scenario in which I would be willing to vote for Trump's reelection.

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/17/the-pharma-wars.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2018, 05:08:21 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 18, 2018, 04:28:21 AM
in which I would be willing to vote for Trump's reelection.


:kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 18, 2018, 06:20:03 AM
Only in the case of the extreme version of the scenario from the bottom of the article where it fucks up Disney (and also, by extension, due to the impending merger, Fox)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2018, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 18, 2018, 06:20:03 AM
Only in the case of the extreme version of the scenario from the bottom of the article where it fucks up Disney (and also, by extension, due to the impending merger, Fox)

So you're okay with kiddie concentration camps as long as Disney gets hurt?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2018, 10:53:36 PM
Kirstjen Nielsen seems to be the new Adolf Eichmann.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 12:05:09 AM
Donald Trump To Establish 'Space Force' And Twitter Users Can't Deal

As per the article: 'One Twitter user griped that "this is what happens when we have a new 'Star Wars' film every year."'

Here's the link: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-space-force-twitter-ridicule_us_5b27fb28e4b05d6c16c5e091

So, in what redneck state will the Space Force Academy be built? I'll bet wannabe Space Cadets are salivating over applying to it right now!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 19, 2018, 12:08:01 AM
I kind of support that idea. The more money he launches into outer space the less damage he can do at home.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on June 19, 2018, 12:22:38 AM
I suddenly got this irrational phobia of ballistic arcs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 19, 2018, 04:52:08 PM
Does Trump....think that illegal aliens come from space?  It's about the only excuse I'd accept for his immigration policies, at this point.

But from what I can see, the family breakup policy is turning into a complete nightmare for Trump.  My Twitter feed is almost full of it, to the exclusivity of anything else going on, even the world cup.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 05:06:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 19, 2018, 04:52:08 PM
Does Trump....think that illegal aliens come from space?  It's about the only excuse I'd accept for his immigration policies, at this point.

But from what I can see, the family breakup policy is turning into a complete nightmare for Trump.  My Twitter feed is almost full of it, to the exclusivity of anything else going on, even the world cup.

That's because the more anyone looks, the worse it gets.

For example, there is no attempt to keep track of who is who.  The numbers the children must wear on their arms are strictly for the use of the guard.  They don't know which kids came from which parents.

Also, it turns out that when this was dreamed up, back in 2017, the target was not illegals at all, but specifically asylum-seekers (brown ones, obviously). 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 19, 2018, 05:22:29 PM
Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back? Surely among even the most hateful of the Republicans this is the line too far.

I heard  that bottlebrush Farage on LBC talking about it; shrugging his shoulders and saying, "welp it's not a hotel, it has to be bad to deter illegals". One step away from Vlad the Impaler, rows of dead to unnerve invading forces.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2018, 05:22:29 PM
Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back? Surely among even the most hateful of the Republicans this is the line too far.

The po'buckers are lining up on Facebook to defend it.  Even Ted Cruz, though, has distanced himself from the entire thing...But in a way that would lead people to believe that the dems did all this shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 19, 2018, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 19, 2018, 05:22:29 PM
Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back? Surely among even the most hateful of the Republicans this is the line too far.

The po'buckers are lining up on Facebook to defend it.  Even Ted Cruz, though, has distanced himself from the entire thing...But in a way that would lead people to believe that the dems did all this shit.

Yep, the dems did it, It's a foster care facility just like American children go to when their parents are arrested, and you know who else is separated from their children? DEAD PATRIOTS KILLED DEFENDING OUR FREEDOM!

I think I've finally reached the "The only good Trump Supporter is a dead Trump Supporter" stage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-dems-want-illegal-immigrants-to-infest-our-country/ar-AAyRMEl?ocid=spartanntp


Nice choice of words, there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing. It will follow the same pattern as 'grab 'em by the pussy', attacks on a conveniently foreign gold-star family, the Muslim Ban, and 'lock her up': Outrage, followed by fake news deflecting the blame, followed by becoming the New Normal. This particular camel's back is made of adamantium, and it's wedged between opposing forces in such a way that it can only be compressed, purified, and transformed like a diamond. American society will shatter and collapse before Trump ever falls from glory because, for the other side, it isn't and never was about Trump. Trump is just the guy surfing the tsunami.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 06:26:59 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/laura-ingraham-compares-child-immigrant-detention-centers-to-summer-camps/ar-AAyQpx7?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 19, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 06:13:56 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-dems-want-illegal-immigrants-to-infest-our-country/ar-AAyRMEl?ocid=spartanntp


Nice choice of words, there.

yeah, a few weeks ago when he called MS-13 'animals', there was this huge kerfluffle where leftists were saying
A) Dehumanizing language is the fast track to camps
B) it's "bad looks" to defend MS-13, so shut up, you're playing into Trump's plan   :fap:

and the Trump statement was to double down about how these people ARE animals

and now, flash forward to the present, he's using more of this 'vermin' language to describe people, but this time, not MS-13....



this country is so depressing
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don't believe it's going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky's ouster.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don't believe it's going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky's ouster.

I am okay with 33% of the country deciding they have to freak the hell out.  Remember Shay's Rebellion?  Neither do I.

And yeah, the New York thing is critical.  Nobody is sure whether Spanky can pardon himself at the federal level, but he certainly cannot pardon himself at the state level...and a pardon at the federal level is an admission of guilt, which would make the New York thing interesting as hell.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
From the This Is The Sort Of Shit We Have To Put Up With Department:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hugs-flag-at-end-of-speech-to-business-group/ar-AAyS7tR?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 11:22:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don't believe it's going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky's ouster.

I am okay with 33% of the country deciding they have to freak the hell out.  Remember Shay's Rebellion?  Neither do I.

And yeah, the New York thing is critical.  Nobody is sure whether Spanky can pardon himself at the federal level, but he certainly cannot pardon himself at the state level...and a pardon at the federal level is an admission of guilt, which would make the New York thing interesting as hell.

Nope, I don't remember Shay's Rebellion. But, I did look it up.

What makes the comparison of Shay's Rebels versus The Republicultists™ of today especially interesting, however, is that The Republicultists™ are actually being screwed over by the policies being enacted by their own party's elite! Now, that takes a special kind of stupid!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on June 19, 2018, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
From the This Is The Sort Of Shit We Have To Put Up With Department:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hugs-flag-at-end-of-speech-to-business-group/ar-AAyS7tR?ocid=spartanntp

My eyesight must be failing; I read that as "trump-humps-flag-at-end-of-speech", something I would surely pay good money to see
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 11:53:39 PM
Also this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-officials-likely-lost-track-of-nearly-6000-unaccompanied-migrant-children/ar-AAySe95?ocid=spartanntp

:rogpipe:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 20, 2018, 01:39:27 AM
There was a recent New Yorker article about how when the children are taken from their parents, the parents are meant to be given some kind of reference number to be able to track their child.  So guess what ICE hasn't been doing?

The article followed the story of just one family simply trying to find out where their daughter was being kept.  They didn't even know where she was.  ICE could confirm that the family tried to enter with a child, and that said child was taken from them, but nothing more.

The potential for child abuse and trafficking is off the charts here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on June 20, 2018, 08:01:52 AM
How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2018, 08:25:41 AM
Quote from: Vanadium Gryllz on June 20, 2018, 08:01:52 AM
How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?

You can expect it pretty much right after the first pedophilia reports.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don't believe it's going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky's ouster.

Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 20, 2018, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 19, 2018, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
From the This Is The Sort Of Shit We Have To Put Up With Department:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hugs-flag-at-end-of-speech-to-business-group/ar-AAyS7tR?ocid=spartanntp

My eyesight must be failing; I read that as "trump-humps-flag-at-end-of-speech", something I would surely pay good money to see

(https://i.imgur.com/pcU48x8.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 20, 2018, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

That's good. That means that they can be answered with violence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2018, 08:25:41 AM
Quote from: Vanadium Gryllz on June 20, 2018, 08:01:52 AM
How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?

You can expect it pretty much right after the first pedophilia reports.

That's already happened.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2018, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 19, 2018, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 19, 2018, 10:58:44 PM
From the This Is The Sort Of Shit We Have To Put Up With Department:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hugs-flag-at-end-of-speech-to-business-group/ar-AAyS7tR?ocid=spartanntp

My eyesight must be failing; I read that as "trump-humps-flag-at-end-of-speech", something I would surely pay good money to see

(https://i.imgur.com/pcU48x8.png)
:lulz: gold.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2018, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2018, 08:25:41 AM
Quote from: Vanadium Gryllz on June 20, 2018, 08:01:52 AM
How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?

You can expect it pretty much right after the first pedophilia reports.

That's already happened.

I hadn't seen the reports... Jesus.

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-on-immigrant-children

QuoteA small sample of the abuses committed by officials includes:
    Denied detained children permission to stand or move freely for days and threatened children who stood up with transfer to solitary confinement in a small, freezing room

    Denied a pregnant minor medical attention when she reported pain, which preceded a stillbirth

    Subjected a 16-year-old girl to a search in which they "forcefully spread her legs and touched her private parts so hard that she screamed"

    Left a 4-pound premature baby and her minor mother in an overcrowded and dirty cell full of sick people, against medical advice

    Threw out a child's birth certificate and threatened him with sexual abuse by an adult male detainee.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
And leave it to Lyndsay Graham.  :lulz:

QuoteElla Nilsen
I was curious what your thoughts are on the White House statement that only Congress can come up with a fix for this?

Lindsey Graham
Well, I said a while ago that the underlying problem Congress needs to address, but as far as the policy change, the "zero-tolerance," they could change that tomorrow, the White House could.

Ella Nilsen
What are your thoughts on some of the bills that have come out so far, like [Sen. Dianne] Feinstein's [D-CA] bill?

Lindsey Graham
I like what I see from Cruz, but I haven't seen the text yet. So we'll see if we can marry up the Feinstein idea with somebody else's idea.

Burgess Everett, Politico
What's your sense of if the conference wants to make a Republican bill at this point?

Lindsey Graham
I'd like to have a position to get behind as a Republican, realizing that we need to work with Democrats to get a solution. So that'd be good. I don't think anybody wins by having dueling bills. I think people want an outcome.

Manu Raju, CNN
What was the mood like in there today?

Lindsey Graham
I don't know, I took my sister to lunch.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

You may be right on the Federal level. However, I suspect things will go much differently on the State level.

Future President Pence, if he escapes Comrade Spanky's ouster, will probably pardon Spanky and most of his gang. But, Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are a real white-collar crime family. I don't believe the Blue States, where they committed many of their crimes, are going to be so forgiving. And, that will make it much harder to sweep the whole sordid mess under the rug on the Federal level.

I suspect any pardons handed out by future President Pence, or whoever, will quickly be challenged in the US Supreme Court by a number of Blue States, and other powerful organizations. And, I sincerely doubt the US Supreme Court, even as politically biased as it is, will uphold those Presidential pardons.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

You may be right on the Federal level. However, I suspect things will go much differently on the State level.

Future President Pence, if he escapes Comrade Spanky's ouster, will probably pardon Spanky and most of his gang. But, Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are a real white-collar crime family. I don't believe the Blue States, where they committed many of their crimes, are going to be so forgiving. And, that will make it much harder to sweep the whole sordid mess under the rug on the Federal level.

I suspect any pardons handed out by future President Pence, or whoever, will quickly be challenged in the US Supreme Court by a number of Blue States, and other powerful organizations. And, I sincerely doubt the US Supreme Court, even as politically biased as it is, will uphold those Presidential pardons.


They don't have a say.  The power of the president to pardon at the federal level is absolute.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 20, 2018, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

That's good. That means that they can be answered with violence.

Okay ... in all probability, nearly 100 %, or the entire 100 %, of your local police department voted, and would vote again, for Comrade Spanky.

So, whose side do you think your local police department will take a stand against?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

You may be right on the Federal level. However, I suspect things will go much differently on the State level.

Future President Pence, if he escapes Comrade Spanky's ouster, will probably pardon Spanky and most of his gang. But, Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are a real white-collar crime family. I don't believe the Blue States, where they committed many of their crimes, are going to be so forgiving. And, that will make it much harder to sweep the whole sordid mess under the rug on the Federal level.

I suspect any pardons handed out by future President Pence, or whoever, will quickly be challenged in the US Supreme Court by a number of Blue States, and other powerful organizations. And, I sincerely doubt the US Supreme Court, even as politically biased as it is, will uphold those Presidential pardons.


They don't have a say.  The power of the president to pardon at the federal level is absolute.

Even when the pardoner is a co-conspirator? Pence is into obstruction of justice up to his eyeballs.

So, who comes after Pence, another Republicultist™ in the spirit of Nelson Rockefeller? Or, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who may not be Lyin' Paul Ryan after the November elections?

I don't believe it's that simple.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

You may be right on the Federal level. However, I suspect things will go much differently on the State level.

Future President Pence, if he escapes Comrade Spanky's ouster, will probably pardon Spanky and most of his gang. But, Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are a real white-collar crime family. I don't believe the Blue States, where they committed many of their crimes, are going to be so forgiving. And, that will make it much harder to sweep the whole sordid mess under the rug on the Federal level.

I suspect any pardons handed out by future President Pence, or whoever, will quickly be challenged in the US Supreme Court by a number of Blue States, and other powerful organizations. And, I sincerely doubt the US Supreme Court, even as politically biased as it is, will uphold those Presidential pardons.


They don't have a say.  The power of the president to pardon at the federal level is absolute.

Even when the pardoner is a co-conspirator? Pence is into obstruction of justice up to his eyeballs.

So, who comes after Pence, another Republicultist™ in the spirit of Nelson Rockefeller? Or, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who may not be Lyin' Paul Ryan after the November elections?

I don't believe it's that simple.

Whether or not the president can outright pardon himself is very much in question.  Anyone else he can pardon...The only check on this is that he can't sell a pardon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 20, 2018, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 20, 2018, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

That's good. That means that they can be answered with violence.

Okay ... in all probability, nearly 100 %, or the entire 100 %, of your local police department voted, and would vote again, for Comrade Spanky.

So, whose side do you think your local police department will take a stand against?


This is the 33% of America who owns 97% of the guns and includes, at a minimum, 60-70% of law enforcement at all levels, and also the military. A couple of bullets from each of them, and they could quickly become 100% of the population. I'm not seeing a Shays Rebellion, here
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 20, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 20, 2018, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 20, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

You may be right on the Federal level. However, I suspect things will go much differently on the State level.

Future President Pence, if he escapes Comrade Spanky's ouster, will probably pardon Spanky and most of his gang. But, Comrade Spanky and His Gang™ are a real white-collar crime family. I don't believe the Blue States, where they committed many of their crimes, are going to be so forgiving. And, that will make it much harder to sweep the whole sordid mess under the rug on the Federal level.

I suspect any pardons handed out by future President Pence, or whoever, will quickly be challenged in the US Supreme Court by a number of Blue States, and other powerful organizations. And, I sincerely doubt the US Supreme Court, even as politically biased as it is, will uphold those Presidential pardons.


They don't have a say.  The power of the president to pardon at the federal level is absolute.

Even when the pardoner is a co-conspirator? Pence is into obstruction of justice up to his eyeballs.

So, who comes after Pence, another Republicultist™ in the spirit of Nelson Rockefeller? Or, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who may not be Lyin' Paul Ryan after the November elections?

I don't believe it's that simple.

Whether or not the president can outright pardon himself is very much in question.  Anyone else he can pardon...The only check on this is that he can't sell a pardon.

Anyone taking bets on when tangerine scream is going to pull that exact move? Assuming he hasn't already.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 20, 2018, 07:31:20 PM
There was some discussion about it recently, when Guiliani brought it up as a possibility.

The problem is:

1) He can't.  DoJ looked into it in 1974, it would effectively make the President the judge in his own case, which of course isn't legally permissable
2) If he did, it would mean he would have to admit his guilt on collusion and obstruction.  Can't pardon something that didn't happen.  He would also lose all his 5th amendment rights relating to the investigaton, which opens up a can of worms
3) Congress might actually spontaneously grow a spine and impeach him.
4) Pence could just assassinate Trump, then pardon himself under this legal logic.  It's retarded.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 21, 2018, 01:05:48 AM
I've done a little research, and it appears that the POTUS currently does have extremely broad power to grant "reprieves and pardons" on the federal level. I hesitate to use the term "absolute," but his pardoning power is pretty damn close to it.

Here are a couple of pertinent sections of the US Constitution:

Article II – Section 2 – Clause 1:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Article II – Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


So, in order to stop the flagrant abuse of the "Reprieves and Pardons" power by the POTUS, it appears to me there are only two options available as follows:

1) A new amendment to the US Constitution.

2) The US Supreme Court accepting to hear a challenge to the flagrant abuse of "Reprieves and Pardons" power by the POTUS, and siding with the challenger.

So, it's likely that the current, criminal administration could easily escape Federal punishment long before a new amendment could be written, submitted, and ratified.

And, based upon past history, I wouldn't bet a thing on Option 2 ever happening.

Apparently, the majority of the Founding Fathers could not conceive of a POS like Comrade Spanky ever holding the office of POTUS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 21, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on June 19, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on June 19, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
This is not the straw that will break the camel's back. It's just one more thing on the list of things we're sure will finally be the end of this nightmare, only to pale in comparison to the next thing.

At this point, I don't know what it's going to take to get Comrade Spanky out of office.

I doubt that his base, who make up about 33 % of The Republicult™, will abandon him for any reason. And given that number of supporters, I don't see how his impeachment will not lead to open violence across the country.

And, the professional politicians in The Republicult™, who make up nearly all of the politicians in the party, are deathly afraid of their own cultists (The Republicultists™). I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't see many, if any, of those politicians openly doing a damn thing to get their sociopath out of the White House.

So, when Special Counsel Mueller finally wraps up his investigation, what then? Whatever happens, I don't believe it's going to be at all straightforward. I suspect the Attorney General of New York State is going to end up being the pointman, by default, for Comrade Spanky's ouster.

Making a prediction: When this is all said and done and the US not a glass parking lot (I know, even odds there) with Trump no longer in office, there will be a cry from both sides that we must "move on as a country, together" and not bother with prosecutions or investigations for the sake of "unity" and "not dredging up old stories" because they would "upset people".  There will be a tepid outcry from the farther Left, and then nothing will be done for at least 20 years, until the responsible parties are dead.

That would be in keeping with the disappointing way the civil war wrapped up. On a related note, I kind of hope the south does rise again, so that we can handle the aftermath correctly this time, like how Rome handled things differently after the Third Punic War
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
More "It's an Obama policy" lies:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-tightens-rules-for-federal-scientists-talking-to-reporters/ar-AAyXQHh?ocid=spartanntp

QuoteA deputy press secretary for the Department of the Interior, Faith Vander Voort, wrote in an email that "the characterization that there is any new policy or that it for some reason targets scientists is completely false." She said the Department of the Interior's communications office "simply asked" the USGS public affairs office to follow media guidelines published in 2012 during the Obama administration. Vander Voort did not answer a question as to what prompted the change in media protocol.

The 10-page media manual says that the Department of the Interior's communications office "must be notified" ahead of media interviews that "may generate significant news coverage, public interest or inquiry." The manual, however, does not say that agency employees must get clearance or approval before responding to a reporter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:39:43 PM
There doesn't seem to be any connection between this guy's rants and reality.  Like none.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-n-korea-blowing-up-test-sites-total-denuclearization-has-already-started/ar-AAyYvqh?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
 :horrormirth: This is what happens when you have a President who gets his info from FOX and Friends and random internet Nazis who tweet at him, instead of the 19 intelligence agencies (with a combined budget in excess of $50 billion) who report to him daily, because the Daily Presidential brief is "boring"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 21, 2018, 07:49:28 PM
This could be an interesting turning point.  This site (and forum) is no stranger to pointing out when a sitting official does something stupid, or when a governing body gets it wrong.

The Obama administration was criticized on this site, and by major media, about their immigration policies, drone strikes, prosecution of whistleblowers, and more.

Oddly Unsurprisingly, people looking to defend Trump forget this. 

And now, the Trump people have shifted their focus somewhat; rather than spend their time rolling back Obama-era regulations, they're jacking up old policies that restrict freedoms, spiking them with additional vitriol and xenophobia, and then saying, "but Your God Obama did the same thing."

It's incredibly tiresome to remind all of them that there was plenty of criticism about those measures, and regardless, immorality by one administration does not make it moral for the next one.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 21, 2018, 07:49:28 PM
This could be an interesting turning point.  This site (and forum) is no stranger to pointing out when a sitting official does something stupid, or when a governing body gets it wrong.

The Obama administration was criticized on this site, and by major media, about their immigration policies, drone strikes, prosecution of whistleblowers, and more.

Oddly Unsurprisingly, people looking to defend Trump forget this. 

And now, the Trump people have shifted their focus somewhat; rather than spend their time rolling back Obama-era regulations, they're jacking up old policies that restrict freedoms, spiking them with additional vitriol and xenophobia, and then saying, "but Your God Obama did the same thing."

It's incredibly tiresome to remind all of them that there was plenty of criticism about those measures, and regardless, immorality by one administration does not make it moral for the next one.

What's REALLY awesome is that they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT" which is why they offer the justification of "THE LAST GUY DID IT", even if - especially if - it's a complete crock.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"

Exhibit A:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/32qajhA4FeJy2nmMbGtTzl7nG-o=/0x0:2550x1700/1220x813/filters:focal(1071x646:1479x1054)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60140131/My_Post__21_.1529608579.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
CALLED IT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-seeks-to-modify-settlement-on-child-immigrant-detentions/ar-AAyYWDo?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 21, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
How does a 20 day limit work. Say for example their parents get sucked into a two year long case, when 20 days are up do they just dump them on the other side of the Rio grande?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 11:47:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 21, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
How does a 20 day limit work. Say for example their parents get sucked into a two year long case, when 20 days are up do they just dump them on the other side of the Rio grande?


No, they release them ROR with an electronic monitor on the adults, and they show up when their court date arrives.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 11:48:21 PM
Weird as it may sound, it's been working for 31 years.

ETA:  The penalty for blowing off the hearing or defeating the electronic monitoring is a lengthy ban on getting a VISA, and deportation.

Given that, most people show up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 11:54:33 PM
And then this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-to-puerto-rico-governor-i-think-weve-helped-you-a-lot/ar-AAyYr1E?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 22, 2018, 01:05:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"

Exhibit A:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/32qajhA4FeJy2nmMbGtTzl7nG-o=/0x0:2550x1700/1220x813/filters:focal(1071x646:1479x1054)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60140131/My_Post__21_.1529608579.jpg)

Depraved Indifference

Conduct which is so reckless, wanton and deficient and lacking in regard for the lives of others as to warrant the same culpability as the individual who actually commits a crime.

Definition from:   https://www.quimbee.com/keyterms/depraved-indifference


depravity
n. pl. depravities

1. Moral corruption or degradation.
2. A depraved act or condition.

Definition from: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/depravity


However,

Trump Claims Melania's Jacket Was About 'The Fake News Media': She Knows 'How Dishonest They Are'

Here's the link: https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-claims-melanias-jacket-was-about-the-fake-news-media-she-knows-how-dishonest-they-are/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2018, 01:34:06 AM
It's also worth mentioning that this jacket is $39.  When do you think was the last time that Melania Trump wore something worth less than $200?  It was totally about the writing on the jacket, it wasn't simply some kind of completely tone-deaf fashion statement.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 22, 2018, 02:23:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 22, 2018, 01:34:06 AM
It's also worth mentioning that this jacket is $39.  When do you think was the last time that Melania Trump wore something worth less than $200?  It was totally about the writing on the jacket, it wasn't simply some kind of completely tone-deaf fashion statement.

Agreed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2018, 02:50:05 AM
Maybe she didn't want another black eye.

She wears bigger glasses than Patricia Nixon did, and always has long sleeves on. Just putting that out there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 22, 2018, 03:09:45 AM
Trump campaign data operation had stolen Clinton emails 'more than a month' before WikiLeaks: bombshell report

From the summary article:

"An American lawyer I know told me that he was approached by a Cambridge Analytica employee after the election. They had had the Clinton emails more than a month before they were published by WikiLeaks: 'What should I do?' Take this to [special counsel Robert Mueller], the lawyer replied."

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/trump-campaign-data-operation-stolen-clinton-emails-month-wikileaks-bombshell-report/


The original article from The Spectator is entitled:

What does the British government know about Trump and Russia?

Here's the link to the original article: https://usa.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/what-does-the-british-government-know-about-trump-and-russia/


The information in these articles is currently getting buried behind the current "Children Locked in Cages" scandal, and rightly so. But, if true, this information about the Clinton emails is going to bring a lot of people in the Trump Administration and the GOP down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 23, 2018, 03:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"

Exhibit A:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/32qajhA4FeJy2nmMbGtTzl7nG-o=/0x0:2550x1700/1220x813/filters:focal(1071x646:1479x1054)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60140131/My_Post__21_.1529608579.jpg)

To be fair, people caring about things is what caused this whole mess. This is all happening because people were worried about illegal immigration and the fate of the manufacturing industry. If people had cared less then there would be no need for people to care now
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2018, 07:59:06 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mattis-is-out-of-the-loop-and-trump-doesnt-listen-to-him-say-officials/ar-AAz8yeX?ocid=spartanntp

That's okay.  Mattis is really only there for one important reason, anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2018, 11:11:08 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump's-immigration-rhetoric-roils-political-outlook-for-gop/ar-AAz7TPc?ocid=spartandhp

QuoteTrump ratcheted up his demands on immigration, saying that people who "invade" the U.S. illegally should be deported immediately without trial or other normal judicial processes.

"We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country,'' Trump said Sunday on Twitter.
"When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back to where to came from. Our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and Law and Order.''
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 26, 2018, 01:56:07 AM
Children in the migrant camps are being made to say the Pledge of Allegiance every morning, "out of respect"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/separated-immigrant-children-are-all-over-the-us-now-far-from-parents-who-dont-know-where-they-are/2018/06/24/c9bc5ba6-7568-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0bb0164e20e0

QuoteThe children have been through hell. They are babies who were carried across rivers and toddlers who rode for hours in trucks and buses and older kids who were told that a better place was just beyond the horizon.

And now they live and wait in unfamiliar places: big American suburban houses where no one speaks their language; a locked shelter on a dusty road where they spend little time outside; a converted Walmart where each morning they are required to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance, in English, to the country that holds them apart from their parents.

Why must they say those words, some of the children ask at the shelter in Brownsville, on the Mexican border in Texas?

"We tell them, 'It's out of respect,' " said one employee of the facility, known as Casa Padre, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing their job.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 26, 2018, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 23, 2018, 03:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"
...

To be fair, people caring about things is what caused this whole mess. This is all happening because people were worried about illegal immigration and the fate of the manufacturing industry. If people had cared less then there would be no need for people to care now
These people care about "winning." They do this at the cost of reason. Argument has no dominion, only numbers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2018, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.

I'm not sorry to see Kennedy go, EXCEPT for the fact that McConnell gets another pick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2018, 11:26:18 PM
There is nothing the Congressional Dems can actually do to stop this, right? 

Looking at his list of approved nominees, they're all either Scalia fans, or Cruz/McConnell toadies.  So, that will go well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 27, 2018, 11:26:18 PM
There is nothing the Congressional Dems can actually do to stop this, right? 

Looking at his list of approved nominees, they're all either Scalia fans, or Cruz/McConnell toadies.  So, that will go well.

If they had a set of balls, they could delay it until the heat death of the universe.

But look at Schumer and let me know if you think he's going to grow a spine at any time in the near future.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2018, 11:29:04 PM
Yeah, you're screwed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 27, 2018, 11:29:04 PM
Yeah, you're screwed.

When I heard we were losing a Justice, I about shit because I thought it would be RBG.  Kennedy is already a McConnell creature, he just doesn't look the part.  No visible trail of slime, etc.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 11:52:04 PM
Not sure how Dems could stop this, regardless of ball size. The GOP killed the filibuster, and they've got 51%.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2018, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 11:52:04 PM
Not sure how Dems could stop this, regardless of ball size. The GOP killed the filibuster, and they've got 51%.

There are ways.  Committee shenanigans, procedural adventures, taking the maximum time for debate for EVERYONE (which they are already doing, in most cases), etc.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 28, 2018, 02:17:11 AM
Though I find it extremely doubtful that any have sufficient spine, 2 Republican senators siding with the Democrats would be enough to slow things down considerably.

Flake's still around, touting his Never Trump credentials.  Same with McCain.  They wont help, but they could.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2018, 02:53:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 28, 2018, 02:17:11 AM
Though I find it extremely doubtful that any have sufficient spine, 2 Republican senators siding with the Democrats would be enough to slow things down considerably.

Flake's still around, touting his Never Trump credentials.  Same with McCain.  They wont help, but they could.

Yep.  Flake lives up to his name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 28, 2018, 04:10:58 AM
The problem is the Never Trump stuff is, with the possible exception of Susan Collins, just empty feel-good schmoozing. When it comes down to it, Flake will go with whatever 0uts a rabidly pro-Business justice on the court, preferably at 2 AM while the Democrats are busy sleeping off a party they just threw themselves for stopping some inconsequential momentary outrage. He doesn't care for how Trump does things, but he isn't losing any sleep over what he's doing.

And as the months pass without any serious threat to this administration, I get the impression most of that Never Trump baloney is melting away as GOP incumbents realize there really is no political penalty in America for being a fullblown fascist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 28, 2018, 05:27:20 AM
Well, the whole situation is ridiculous, so might as well make a mockery of the whole thing (https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/27/immigrant-toddlers-ordered-appear-court-alone/).

QuoteAs the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 28, 2018, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.

Wasn't Justice Kennedy a Republican anyway? It's my understanding that he was appointed by the previous demented president before this one (Ronald Regan)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 28, 2018, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on June 26, 2018, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 23, 2018, 03:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2018, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
they are more or less saying "WE'RE DOING EVIL THINGS AND WE KNOW IT"
...

To be fair, people caring about things is what caused this whole mess. This is all happening because people were worried about illegal immigration and the fate of the manufacturing industry. If people had cared less then there would be no need for people to care now
These people care about "winning." They do this at the cost of reason. Argument has no dominion, only numbers.

But think about it. The best plausible outcome for the rest of Donald Trump's presidency is that he goes back to the golf course and just stays there for the next 30 months*. That would be better even than if he resigned or was impeached or got shot or got flattened by a meteor, because in those scenarios we get president Pence; but if he blows if off entirely we don't get either.

Or going back a couple of administrations, things went from bad to worse after Bush stopped reading that book to those kids, didn't they? We got the War On Terror, and he signed the PATRIOT Act, and so forth.




*(or for 24 more months if Christianity is to be believed; "The beast was allowed to brag and claim to be God, and for 42 months it was allowed to rule" -Revelation 13:5, Contemporary English Version)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 28, 2018, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 28, 2018, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.

Wasn't Justice Kennedy a Republican anyway? It's my understanding that he was appointed by the previous demented president before this one (Ronald Regan)

He was the liberal swing vote to several abortion cases (Casey, Hellerstedt), DOMA, as well as the gay marriage ruling (Obergefell), and that executing juvenile offenders constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" (Roper v. Simmons).

What we'll most likely get is someone to the right of Alito and Gorsuch, meaning the court could easily undo all of the above.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 28, 2018, 11:22:20 PM
Here's a page on the actual-ass DHS website: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/02/15/we-must-secure-border-and-build-wall-make-america-safe-again



14-world title beginning "We Must Secure"

arbitrary use of the number 88


dog whistle: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488





Is this for real?

Is this real life?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 28, 2018, 11:40:04 PM
You're not crazy

I mean, you may be crazy, but any insanity you may be suffering from is independent of your evaluation that this is a Very Bad Thing.

The Very Bad Thing may be contributing to pre-existing insanity, though
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 28, 2018, 11:22:20 PM
Here's a page on the actual-ass DHS website: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/02/15/we-must-secure-border-and-build-wall-make-america-safe-again



14-world title beginning "We Must Secure"

arbitrary use of the number 88


dog whistle: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/1488





Is this for real?

Is this real life?


You bet your life it is.  Remember Stephen Miller flashing white power signs in the whitehouse in 2017?  Remember how everyone said "that can't be happening, that's not what it was."

That's what it was. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2018, 02:42:02 AM
And now, 2 days after Milo encourages people to kill journalists, someone kills 5 people at a Maryland newspaper.

Donald "the press are the enemy of the people" Trump didn't want to comment on the shooting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 02:42:02 AM
And now, 2 days after Milo encourages people to kill journalists, someone kills 5 people at a Maryland newspaper.

Donald "the press are the enemy of the people" Trump didn't want to comment on the shooting.

What the hell?

What Milo said is a criminal act, by the way.  And now people have died.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 03:52:23 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2018, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 28, 2018, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.

Wasn't Justice Kennedy a Republican anyway? It's my understanding that he was appointed by the previous demented president before this one (Ronald Regan)

He was the liberal swing vote to several abortion cases (Casey, Hellerstedt), DOMA, as well as the gay marriage ruling (Obergefell), and that executing juvenile offenders constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" (Roper v. Simmons).

What we'll most likely get is someone to the right of Alito and Gorsuch, meaning the court could easily undo all of the above.

If Ronald Reagan accidentally appointed someone who wasn't completely a piece of shit it's plausible that Trump could too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2018, 04:13:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 02:42:02 AM
And now, 2 days after Milo encourages people to kill journalists, someone kills 5 people at a Maryland newspaper.

Donald "the press are the enemy of the people" Trump didn't want to comment on the shooting.

What the hell?

What Milo said is a criminal act, by the way.  And now people have died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44645986

QuoteA gunman has opened fire at a local newspaper office in Maryland, killing five people and injuring others in what police said was a "targeted attack".

Staff at the Capital Gazette in Annapolis said the attacker, armed with a shotgun and smoke grenades, shot through a glass door into the newsroom.

US media have named a suspect held by police as Jarrod Ramos, who is reported to have unsuccessfully sued the newspaper group in 2012 for defamation.

Police have not confirmed a motive.

And that would, along with this attack, explain Milo's sudden "I'm only trolling" backpedaling a few hours ago.

Here's the video of Trump refusing to comment https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1012465124517572615
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 04:46:22 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 03:52:23 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2018, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 28, 2018, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 27, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Well, Justice Kennedy is retiring next month. Trump gets two SCOTUS picks.



Pack 'em up, folks. We had a good run. Last one in the building, hit the lights on your way out.

Wasn't Justice Kennedy a Republican anyway? It's my understanding that he was appointed by the previous demented president before this one (Ronald Regan)

He was the liberal swing vote to several abortion cases (Casey, Hellerstedt), DOMA, as well as the gay marriage ruling (Obergefell), and that executing juvenile offenders constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" (Roper v. Simmons).

What we'll most likely get is someone to the right of Alito and Gorsuch, meaning the court could easily undo all of the above.

If Ronald Reagan accidentally appointed someone who wasn't completely a piece of shit it's plausible that Trump could too.

We got Mattis.  That's his quota.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 04:47:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 04:13:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 03:37:07 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 02:42:02 AM
And now, 2 days after Milo encourages people to kill journalists, someone kills 5 people at a Maryland newspaper.

Donald "the press are the enemy of the people" Trump didn't want to comment on the shooting.

What the hell?

What Milo said is a criminal act, by the way.  And now people have died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44645986

QuoteA gunman has opened fire at a local newspaper office in Maryland, killing five people and injuring others in what police said was a "targeted attack".

Staff at the Capital Gazette in Annapolis said the attacker, armed with a shotgun and smoke grenades, shot through a glass door into the newsroom.

US media have named a suspect held by police as Jarrod Ramos, who is reported to have unsuccessfully sued the newspaper group in 2012 for defamation.

Police have not confirmed a motive.

And that would, along with this attack, explain Milo's sudden "I'm only trolling" backpedaling a few hours ago.

Here's the video of Trump refusing to comment https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1012465124517572615

Is this beginning to look like the end of Transmet, or what?  I keep waiting for him to shove Sarah Huckabee at the reporters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 05:43:20 AM
I'm somewhat conflicted. On the one hand I feel like I should get out of this country while the getting's good, on the other hand I'm in a swing state and feel like the United States needs me (Plus I don't know where I'd go to; most places I don't speak the language, and I want to steer clear of the commonwealth of nations because they tend to have onerous censorship laws; like for the longest time The Driller Killer was banned in Britain because it was supposedly over the top, and that movie's boring as shit, and you still can't get any good movies or videogames in austrailia).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 05:43:20 AM
I'm somewhat conflicted. On the one hand I feel like I should get out of this country while the getting's good, on the other hand I'm in a swing state and feel like the United States needs me (Plus I don't know where I'd go to; most places I don't speak the language, and I want to steer clear of the commonwealth of nations because they tend to have onerous censorship laws; like for the longest time The Driller Killer was banned in Britain because it was supposedly over the top, and that movie's boring as shit, and you still can't get any good movies or videogames in austrailia).

I'm not being run out, no matter what the consequences are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
BTW, speaking of swing states, here is what needs to happen to have the best chance to fix this mess. We need a lot of democrats from non-swing states to move to the swing states and turn them blue. Alternately, we need a lot of democrats from a cross section of blue states to move to one or two of the low population red states and turn them blue
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on June 29, 2018, 07:37:47 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
BTW, speaking of swing states, here is what needs to happen to have the best chance to fix this mess. We need a lot of democrats from non-swing states to move to the swing states and turn them blue. Alternately, we need a lot of democrats from a cross section of blue states to move to one or two of the low population red states and turn them blue

Californians tend to move other places.  If they'd do it a bit more strategically we could turn the country arouind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 29, 2018, 08:07:52 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 29, 2018, 07:37:47 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
BTW, speaking of swing states, here is what needs to happen to have the best chance to fix this mess. We need a lot of democrats from non-swing states to move to the swing states and turn them blue. Alternately, we need a lot of democrats from a cross section of blue states to move to one or two of the low population red states and turn them blue

Californians tend to move other places.  If they'd do it a bit more strategically we could turn the country arouind.

Arouind?


Is that like a shade of Indigo, or...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 29, 2018, 08:11:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2018, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 05:43:20 AM
I'm somewhat conflicted. On the one hand I feel like I should get out of this country while the getting's good, on the other hand I'm in a swing state and feel like the United States needs me (Plus I don't know where I'd go to; most places I don't speak the language, and I want to steer clear of the commonwealth of nations because they tend to have onerous censorship laws; like for the longest time The Driller Killer was banned in Britain because it was supposedly over the top, and that movie's boring as shit, and you still can't get any good movies or videogames in austrailia).

I'm not being run out, no matter what the consequences are.


The only answer anyone EVER needs to give for the question "Why don't you GEEUT AYYYOWT?" is "Why don't you make me"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 29, 2018, 11:08:48 AM
 :?
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 29, 2018, 08:07:52 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on June 29, 2018, 07:37:47 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 29, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
BTW, speaking of swing states, here is what needs to happen to have the best chance to fix this mess. We need a lot of democrats from non-swing states to move to the swing states and turn them blue. Alternately, we need a lot of democrats from a cross section of blue states to move to one or two of the low population red states and turn them blue

Californians tend to move other places.  If they'd do it a bit more strategically we could turn the country arouind.

Arouind?


Is that like a shade of Indigo, or...

An evil mixture, monster, compounded of bleau and reid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
 :lulz:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tariniparti/donald-trump-appears-to-have-gotten-tricked-into-calling-a?utm_term=.cgJ03god9#.vsoaPqN8z

QuoteJohn Melendez, a podcast host known for playing pranks also known as "Stuttering John," says he managed to get an Air Force One phone call from President Donald Trump, who appears to have thought Melendez was New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez.

If accurate, the call, which Melendez recorded and posted as a podcast episode, would be a stunning lapse in procedure and security for the White House.

But there was some genuine information in that call:

Quote"I want to be able to take care of this situation every bit as anybody else," he says of the crisis at the border. "I'd like to do the larger solution rather than the smaller solution."

QuoteHe also says he will make a decision on his Supreme Court nominee in the next two weeks, or "over the next 12-14 days." That timeline is in line with what a key Trump adviser told BuzzFeed News on Thursday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 30, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Also, I hope everyone's paying close attention to the NATO summit in 2 weeks time, to be followed (possibly very closely) by Trump having a meeting with Putin.

In anticipation of the NATO summit, Trump has once again been escalating the rhetoric against the alliance.  He reportedly said to Sweden's Prime Minister, when informed that Sweden is not part of NATO but sometimes holds military exercises alongside it "that maybe the US should consider doing the same".  More recently, he stated NATO was as bad as NAFTA (?). 

The US Ambassador to Estonia, a country with a large ethnic Russian population in its eastern provinces, also quit today, in protest of Trump's statements.

Now, this could just be Trump's retarded attempts at playing hardball with the NATO alliance....but I don't know.  With the way he's been acting in the past month, I have the feeling there is something more going on, that potentially something really bad is about to happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 30, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Also, I hope everyone's paying close attention to the NATO summit in 2 weeks time, to be followed (possibly very closely) by Trump having a meeting with Putin.

In anticipation of the NATO summit, Trump has once again been escalating the rhetoric against the alliance.  He reportedly said to Sweden's Prime Minister, when informed that Sweden is not part of NATO but sometimes holds military exercises alongside it "that maybe the US should consider doing the same".  More recently, he stated NATO was as bad as NAFTA (?). 

The US Ambassador to Estonia, a country with a large ethnic Russian population in its eastern provinces, also quit today, in protest of Trump's statements.

Now, this could just be Trump's retarded attempts at playing hardball with the NATO alliance....but I don't know.  With the way he's been acting in the past month, I have the feeling there is something more going on, that potentially something really bad is about to happen.

Always bet on the most criminally insane possibility.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2018, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
:lulz:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tariniparti/donald-trump-appears-to-have-gotten-tricked-into-calling-a?utm_term=.cgJ03god9#.vsoaPqN8z

QuoteJohn Melendez, a podcast host known for playing pranks also known as "Stuttering John," says he managed to get an Air Force One phone call from President Donald Trump, who appears to have thought Melendez was New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez.

If accurate, the call, which Melendez recorded and posted as a podcast episode, would be a stunning lapse in procedure and security for the White House.

But there was some genuine information in that call:

Quote"I want to be able to take care of this situation every bit as anybody else," he says of the crisis at the border. "I'd like to do the larger solution rather than the smaller solution."

QuoteHe also says he will make a decision on his Supreme Court nominee in the next two weeks, or "over the next 12-14 days." That timeline is in line with what a key Trump adviser told BuzzFeed News on Thursday.

So, the secret service paid the guy a visit.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stuttering-john-says-he-was-visited-by-secret-service-after-trump-prank-call/ar-AAzoBRA?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 30, 2018, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 29, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
:lulz:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tariniparti/donald-trump-appears-to-have-gotten-tricked-into-calling-a?utm_term=.cgJ03god9#.vsoaPqN8z

QuoteJohn Melendez, a podcast host known for playing pranks also known as "Stuttering John," says he managed to get an Air Force One phone call from President Donald Trump, who appears to have thought Melendez was New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez.

If accurate, the call, which Melendez recorded and posted as a podcast episode, would be a stunning lapse in procedure and security for the White House.

But there was some genuine information in that call:

Quote"I want to be able to take care of this situation every bit as anybody else," he says of the crisis at the border. "I'd like to do the larger solution rather than the smaller solution."

I'm sure he meant to say "final", not "larger"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2018, 12:21:16 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 30, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Also, I hope everyone's paying close attention to the NATO summit in 2 weeks time, to be followed (possibly very closely) by Trump having a meeting with Putin.

In anticipation of the NATO summit, Trump has once again been escalating the rhetoric against the alliance.  He reportedly said to Sweden's Prime Minister, when informed that Sweden is not part of NATO but sometimes holds military exercises alongside it "that maybe the US should consider doing the same".  More recently, he stated NATO was as bad as NAFTA (?). 

The US Ambassador to Estonia, a country with a large ethnic Russian population in its eastern provinces, also quit today, in protest of Trump's statements.

Now, this could just be Trump's retarded attempts at playing hardball with the NATO alliance....but I don't know.  With the way he's been acting in the past month, I have the feeling there is something more going on, that potentially something really bad is about to happen.

Always bet on the most criminally insane possibility.

Trump withdraws from NATO, citing the lack of increased military spending by Germany et al.

3 days later, in a meeting with Putin, Trump recognises the Russian annexation of the Crimea in return for a drawing down of Russian forces in Syria.  He officialises the recognition, while Russia does not significantly reduce its Syrian footprint.

I take out that bottle of Talisker Storm that I have sitting in my cupboard, set aside for a "special occasion".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 01, 2018, 01:09:35 AM
I've heard that Russia's interference in the 2016 election may have been more a matter of seizing a sudden opportunity than some long-planned undermining of the Western international order, but the way Trump just happens to behave like he's a full puppet makes me wonder. I'm not an expert like some people, but it still seems like there's a titanic shift going on, the kind if thing that people 500 years from now will say "there's no way it happened that fast or that obviously," and they'll be wrong.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
My feeling is there are elements of both here.  I honestly think that people are discounting the idea that Russian military intelligence is a) staffed with loons who think they really are in existential conflict with the west, and b) are connected to far-right militias fighting the Donbass and the overall European far-right scene far too readily.

Translation: GRU has basically gone full 1960s CIA.  It's running black ops all over with deniable cut-outs in the form of hackers and far-right groups, without any necessary direction from the Kremlin.

At the same time, there's definitely an official, concerted effort.  If the UK government ever actually bothered to do a full on Parliamentary investigation (which we are still loathe to do, because it might upset Trump) we would find more links between Brexit, Russia and Trump than would make anyone comfortable.   A former police officer has done a lot of investigation on this front already, and found some extremely troubling parallels, including some quite damning forensic evidence (bot farms deployed to swing Brexit repurposed for Trump).  Before that, we had odd electoral instability in places like Bulgaria in 2013 and 14...test runs, perhaps?

The mix of covert ops and enthusiastic amateurs supported by state elements is likely what makes this appear as weird as it does.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 02, 2018, 06:54:15 PM
So, the legislation Trump's people have drafted to bail on the WTO is the Fair and Riprocal Tariff Act, which immediately got noticed by everyone, because now we have the FART Act.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 03, 2018, 11:50:14 PM
Donnie's gonna shit.  He's gonna shit square bricks.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-panel-upholds-finding-that-russia-backed-trump-contradicting-house/ar-AAzxDpO?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 03, 2018, 11:54:48 PM
This will play well with the rubes.  Prediction:  Half of bikers want to kill Trump, the other half suddenly discover a love for Kawasakis.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/after-harley-spat-trump-woos-other-motorcycle-makers-to-us/ar-AAzxem5?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2018, 03:07:49 AM
Trump is meeting with Putin without any aides or translators.

In fact, Trump is meeting with Putin without anyone else at all being present.  Not a single person will be in the room except Putin and Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 04, 2018, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 04, 2018, 03:07:49 AM
Trump is meeting with Putin without any aides or translators.

In fact, Trump is meeting with Putin without anyone else at all being present.  Not a single person will be in the room except Putin and Trump.

I'm aware.

It looks like feeding a goldfish to a great white shark.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 04, 2018, 04:29:11 AM
That, or Trump is more worried about Amerian witnesses than being rolled by Putin.

Because he's going to give Putin something, or tell him something, or agree to something, and he doesn't want anyone to know.  Just like when he ordered the press away from the White House before he gave the Russians that Israeli intelligence last year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2018, 02:14:41 AM
Social media trolls Alex Jones with 'Second Civil War' letters

As per the article:

"Social media users mocked InfoWars founder and host Alex Jones for predicting that Democrats are planning to start a civil war on July 4.

The conspiracy theorist tweeted his prediction on Monday, accompanied by a video in which he claimed that "elite publications" were calling for a "civil emergency" using civil unrest and "racial strife" to force out President Trump.

    BREAKING: Democrats Plan To Launch Civil War On July 4th https://t.co/38AWiUFaag
    — Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) July 1, 2018

Twitter users were quick to jump on Jones's claims, mocking him with letters written in the style of those from soldiers written during the American Civil War."

Here's the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/395417-social-media-trolls-alex-jones-with-second-civil-war-letters

I guess because I'm officially an "Unaffiliated" voter, those damn Democrats never gave me a heads up about the start of this new Civil War. It's a very sad thing that people like me had to hear about this from Alex Jones.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 06, 2018, 11:06:19 PM
And shots fired.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-fires-back-after-trump-launches-dollar34-billion-trade-war/ar-AAzEAv2?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 06, 2018, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2018, 02:14:41 AM
Social media trolls Alex Jones with 'Second Civil War' letters

As per the article:

"Social media users mocked InfoWars founder and host Alex Jones for predicting that Democrats are planning to start a civil war on July 4.

The conspiracy theorist tweeted his prediction on Monday, accompanied by a video in which he claimed that "elite publications" were calling for a "civil emergency" using civil unrest and "racial strife" to force out President Trump.

    BREAKING: Democrats Plan To Launch Civil War On July 4th https://t.co/38AWiUFaag
    — Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) July 1, 2018

Twitter users were quick to jump on Jones's claims, mocking him with letters written in the style of those from soldiers written during the American Civil War."

Here's the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/395417-social-media-trolls-alex-jones-with-second-civil-war-letters

I guess because I'm officially an "Unaffiliated" voter, those damn Democrats never gave me a heads up about the start of this new Civil War. It's a very sad thing that people like me had to hear about this from Alex Jones.

Nobody told me, either, and I'm a dyed in the wool democrat.

I didn't even have the nose art finished on the bomber.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 07, 2018, 02:44:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 04, 2018, 04:29:11 AM
That, or Trump is more worried about Amerian witnesses than being rolled by Putin.

Because he's going to give Putin something, or tell him something, or agree to something, and he doesn't want anyone to know.  Just like when he ordered the press away from the White House before he gave the Russians that Israeli intelligence last year.

Colbert: Trump and Putin Are Meeting Next Month for 'Trump's Annual Employee Review'

As per the article/video:

"Obviously, with the looming shadow of the Mueller investigation, Trump has to completely distance himself from anything Russian. So today, the White House announced he'll be meeting with Vladimir Putin on July 16. Well, okay, it makes sense. It is time for Trump's annual employee review. It is, right? It's time. It's time.

"The meeting was set up by national security adviser and 'man smelling his own mustache,' John Bolton. And Bolton defended the summit in the strongest terms."

Here's a link: https://www.thewrap.com/colbert-trump-putin-meeting-next-month-trumps-annual-employee-review-video/

I think Colbert really nailed this one, unfortunately. But, Comrade Spanky does appear willing to do anything to get a Trump Comrade Spanky Tower built in Moscow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 08, 2018, 04:42:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 06, 2018, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2018, 02:14:41 AM
Social media trolls Alex Jones with 'Second Civil War' letters

As per the article:

"Social media users mocked InfoWars founder and host Alex Jones for predicting that Democrats are planning to start a civil war on July 4.

The conspiracy theorist tweeted his prediction on Monday, accompanied by a video in which he claimed that "elite publications" were calling for a "civil emergency" using civil unrest and "racial strife" to force out President Trump.

    BREAKING: Democrats Plan To Launch Civil War On July 4th https://t.co/38AWiUFaag (https://t.co/38AWiUFaag)
    — Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) July 1, 2018

Twitter users were quick to jump on Jones's claims, mocking him with letters written in the style of those from soldiers written during the American Civil War."

Here's the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/395417-social-media-trolls-alex-jones-with-second-civil-war-letters (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/395417-social-media-trolls-alex-jones-with-second-civil-war-letters)

I guess because I'm officially an "Unaffiliated" voter, those damn Democrats never gave me a heads up about the start of this new Civil War. It's a very sad thing that people like me had to hear about this from Alex Jones.

Nobody told me, either, and I'm a dyed in the wool democrat.

I didn't even have the nose art finished on the bomber.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
...there wasn't much headroom in the missile silo rocket chamber, but our Battalion still got the damn thing to lift-off, on target. The enemy is no longer in us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Of COURSE.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pardons-oregon-men-whose-case-sparked-wildlife-refuge-takeover/ar-AAzR7Rb?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:37:25 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tell-people-not-to-come-to-our-country-illegally/ar-AAzQpn5?ocid=spartanntp

If you can't do your job, blame illegals.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2018, 06:01:05 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Of COURSE.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pardons-oregon-men-whose-case-sparked-wildlife-refuge-takeover/ar-AAzR7Rb?ocid=spartanntp

Well how else are you going to signal to the militia crowd that their crimes will be forgiven?

Gonna be hard to get paramilitaries on board if they're worried about the law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 11, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Of COURSE.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pardons-oregon-men-whose-case-sparked-wildlife-refuge-takeover/ar-AAzR7Rb?ocid=spartanntp

At his Montana rally last week, Comrade Spanky said, "Democrats want anarchy, they really do, and they don't know who they're playing with, folks."

Here's a link, for anyone in doubt: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/donald-trump-montana-speech/index.html

So, if the Democrats are anarchists, what exactly are the anti-government cattle ranchers who were convicted of committing arson on federal land, a wildlife refuge no less?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 11, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Didn't they also fire shots at firefighters?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 11, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Of COURSE.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pardons-oregon-men-whose-case-sparked-wildlife-refuge-takeover/ar-AAzR7Rb?ocid=spartanntp

At his Montana rally last week, Comrade Spanky said, "Democrats want anarchy, they really do, and they don't know who they're playing with, folks."

Here's a link, for anyone in doubt: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/donald-trump-montana-speech/index.html

So, if the Democrats are anarchists, what exactly are the anti-government cattle ranchers who were convicted of committing arson on federal land, a wildlife refuge no less?

Patriots, of course.

Quote from: Emo Howard on July 11, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Didn't they also fire shots at firefighters?

I believe so.  It also wasn't just a single incident, they had persistently been doing this for years, and the 5 year sentence they were handed down was part of a plea bargain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 12, 2018, 12:21:21 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/anger-and-disgust-as-trump-blows-up-nato-summit
QuoteWith cameras switched on, and no question they were recording, Donald Trump told his Atlantic Alliance counterparts that Germany is "totally controlled by Russia." Berlin buys from Moscow more and more of the natural gas it uses. So, in one of his trademark versions of common sense, which commonly ignores basic history and fundamental facts, he asked why the U.S. should spend a lot of money to defend Germany from Russia if Germany was dependent on Russia for energy. Trump incorrectly inflated Germany's reliance on Russian energy to convey, yet again, a picture of NATO as a protection racket and the U.S. demanding its envelope of cash be heavier.
QuoteThis after Trump turned the meeting last month in Canada of the G7 most economically advanced democracies into an acrimonious debacle. (He not only insulted German Chancellor Angela Merkel there, he threw a Starburst candy at her.)
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 12, 2018, 06:02:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 11, 2018, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 11, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
Of COURSE.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pardons-oregon-men-whose-case-sparked-wildlife-refuge-takeover/ar-AAzR7Rb?ocid=spartanntp

At his Montana rally last week, Comrade Spanky said, "Democrats want anarchy, they really do, and they don't know who they're playing with, folks."

Here's a link, for anyone in doubt: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/donald-trump-montana-speech/index.html

So, if the Democrats are anarchists, what exactly are the anti-government cattle ranchers who were convicted of committing arson on federal land, a wildlife refuge no less?

Patriots, of course.

For some reason, that never occurred to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 12, 2018, 08:47:23 AM
Unless a black person does it of course, in which case they are a Communist.  Which is bad.

There's a flowchart somewhere for all this, I swear...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2018, 02:51:19 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 13, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 13, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:

Undermine May at every chance, recommend the hardest possible brexit, probably wants the UK to leave the WTO, says he supports may but that boris would be a better pm, insult ireland as a passing afterthought not realising were not part of the UK.

On the plus side i hope this runs counter to any future of a boris pm. The tories play an elitist game that trump ignored the rules of.

So far its been less offensive than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 13, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 13, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:

Undermine May at every chance, recommend the hardest possible brexit, probably wants the UK to leave the WTO, says he supports may but that boris would be a better pm, insult ireland as a passing afterthought not realising were not part of the UK.

On the plus side i hope this runs counter to any future of a boris pm. The tories play an elitist game that trump ignored the rules of.

So far its been less offensive than I thought it would be.

Watching him snivel about the Mayor of London and that the UK lets too many brown people in was kinda funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-wont-rule-out-ceasing-military-exercises-if-putin-asks/ar-AAzZYFL?ocid=spartanntp

This is beginning to look like a trend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 13, 2018, 04:21:54 PM
Syria Iraq and Afghanistan were always part of the Russian federation
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 13, 2018, 04:21:54 PM
Syria Iraq and Afghanistan were always part of the Russian federation

:lulz:

Also, though, Trump will stop any readiness exercise the moment an opponent demands it. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 13, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 13, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
So, this state visit is going well  :lulz:

Undermine May at every chance, recommend the hardest possible brexit, probably wants the UK to leave the WTO, says he supports may but that boris would be a better pm, insult ireland as a passing afterthought not realising were not part of the UK.

On the plus side i hope this runs counter to any future of a boris pm. The tories play an elitist game that trump ignored the rules of.

So far its been less offensive than I thought it would be.

Then completely deny the interview he did with The Sun where he said a trade deal would be almost impossible with the current Brexit plans, despite it being on tape, call it "Fake News", then turn around today and say that a trade deal is totes possible.

Also inadvertantely troll the Leave camp by making them insist that accepting US trade rules is an expression of sovereignty, but accepting EU trade rules is not.

Also also have the Secret Service buzz around London in V-22 Osprey's, creating a shit ton of noise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
And then and then and then

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conservatives-moving-to-impeach-rosenstein-soon-report/ar-AAA2Cjn?ocid=spartanntp

Watch for hijinks on Monday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-wont-rule-out-ceasing-military-exercises-if-putin-asks/ar-AAzZYFL?ocid=spartanntp

This is beginning to look like a trend.

So is this (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-robinson/trumps-ambassador-lobbied-britain-on-behalf-of-jailed-right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-idUSKBN1K331J):

QuoteSam Brownback, the U.S. Ambassador for International Religious Freedom, complained to the British ambassador in Washington D.C. about the treatment of an English right-wing activist who is in jail for disrupting a trial, according to three sources familiar with the discussion.

Brownback raised the case of the activist known as Tommy Robinson in a June meeting with Sir Kim Darroch, Britain's Ambassador to the United States, according to a British official and two sources close to the organizers of a pro-Robinson demonstration planned for London on Saturday.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, though he also uses other aliases, is a founder of the English Defense League, which has organized violent demonstrations against Islamic immigrants in the UK in the past decade. More recently, Robinson has branded himself a journalist and campaigner against Islamic extremism, a move that won him contacts with American anti-Muslim activists.

Robinson was arrested in late May outside a courthouse in Leeds, England, while making video recordings about a trial related to child molestation and jailed for 13 months for violating English law limiting publicity during criminal trials.

Brownback raised the jailing of Robinson during a meeting with Darroch that covered a range of "religious freedom issues", the British official confirmed earlier this week.

Brownback told Darroch that if Britain did not treat Robinson more sympathetically, the Trump administration might be compelled to criticize Britain's handling of the case, according to the two sources in contact with organizers of the planned pro-Robinson demonstration.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 14, 2018, 04:14:15 PM
They fail to explain why being criticized by the Trump administration would be a bad thing. Is "criticize" a euphemism for something else here, like assassination or sabotage?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2018, 09:07:31 PM
It puts further political pressure on a government hanging by a thread due to Brexit, and empowers the British far-right at a time when they need to have less of a voice in how the nation is run, not more.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 14, 2018, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2018, 11:51:00 PM
And then and then and then

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conservatives-moving-to-impeach-rosenstein-soon-report/ar-AAA2Cjn?ocid=spartanntp

Watch for hijinks on Monday.

House Republicans take first steps to impeach Rod Rosenstein

The only thing new in this newer article is as follows:

"But Speaker Paul Ryan, who has been reluctant to join the conservatives' blistering criticism of Rosenstein, could block the measure."

I, however, would not bet the farm on Lyin' Ryan's reluctance.

Anyway, here's the link: https://nypost.com/2018/07/14/house-republicans-take-first-steps-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
It's almost a shame Ron Paul is banned.

Because it would be hilarious to rub it in his face right now re: my suspicions of the DNC hack, the GRU, Wikileaks and Roger Stone

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mueller-team-pushing-information-roger-stone-wikileaks-sources/story?id=56509716
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2018, 03:55:58 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
It's almost a shame Ron Paul is banned.

Because it would be hilarious to rub it in his face right now re: my suspicions of the DNC hack, the GRU, Wikileaks and Roger Stone

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mueller-team-pushing-information-roger-stone-wikileaks-sources/story?id=56509716

Yeah, but he managed to get banned at scrubgenius, and that takes some doing.

You'd rub his nose in it, and he'd smile and explain that you don't understand the glories of eco-fascism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2018, 12:48:30 PM
I just remember him trying to shit all over me back in the day for it, despite it being done out in the open and pretty obviously.  So I'm feeling quite vindicated right now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
Anyway, the Trump-Putin summit ran over time, even taking into account the pathetic "I'll show up late, now I'll show up late" one upmanship Putin and Trump were doing.

No word yet on what was discusssed behind closed doors.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on July 16, 2018, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 16, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
Anyway, the Trump-Putin summit ran over time, even taking into account the pathetic "I'll show up late, now I'll show up late" one upmanship Putin and Trump were doing.

No word yet on what was discusssed behind closed doors.

I bet I know why it ran long . . .





'cos Trump couldn't find his arse with an atlas
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
He was probably telling one of his long, winding, pointless stories where he repeats himself over and over again.  He does have form for that, and by all accounts it's been getting worse over the the past year.

But he was also maybe signing the Crimea away, after trying to locate an atlas and find it.  Apparently the press briefing is due to start in a few minutes, so lets see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2018, 05:20:50 PM
Well, that was a shitshow, but it doesn't seem to be a world-ending one.  That we know of....

But watching the US President standing next to the Russian one and trashing his own intelligence services was a novel experience

QuotePresident Donald Trump was asked outright if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections - and if he would denounce Russia with "the world watching".

Mr Trump dodged the question.

"People came to me, [national intelligence director] Dan Coates came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia," Mr Trump said.

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it should be."

Maybe I'm just not very smart, but that doesn't read like a "dodge" to me.  "I don't see any reason why it should be" is accepting the word of Putin over the DNI.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on July 16, 2018, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 16, 2018, 05:20:50 PM
Well, that was a shitshow, but it doesn't seem to be a world-ending one.  That we know of....

But watching the US President standing next to the Russian one and trashing his own intelligence services was a novel experience

QuotePresident Donald Trump was asked outright if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections - and if he would denounce Russia with "the world watching".

Mr Trump dodged the question.

"People came to me, [national intelligence director] Dan Coates came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia," Mr Trump said.

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it should be."

Maybe I'm just not very smart, but that doesn't read like a "dodge" to me.  "I don't see any reason why it should be" is accepting the word of Putin over the DNI.

I am no longer surprised by anything he does.
Quote"President Trump says it's not Russian collusion. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be."
[/misquote]

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 16, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
So Jones (D-SC) and Collins and Murkowski are going to vote to confrm Kavanaugh.  :rogpipe:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 16, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 16, 2018, 06:10:41 PM


I am no longer surprised by anything he does.
Quote"President Trump says it's not Russian collusion. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be."
[/misquote]
My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun (Sonnet 130)
Quote[...]
My mistress when she walks treads on the ground.
    And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
    As any she belied with false compare
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 17, 2018, 05:24:34 AM
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/2169659406398871/?hc_ref=ARQMVCENr7Hka2HqQv0nm-Tp0OfWmJB43Qs7pzljg1Zaq4C9lVar2CcRYZFfkmu_fys&fref=gs&dti=70766502955&hc_location=group
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 17, 2018, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 17, 2018, 05:24:34 AM
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/2169659406398871/?hc_ref=ARQMVCENr7Hka2HqQv0nm-Tp0OfWmJB43Qs7pzljg1Zaq4C9lVar2CcRYZFfkmu_fys&fref=gs&dti=70766502955&hc_location=group
Really, the predicament, in HellSinkY the President is twixt a rock and hard place. He undermineth himself both ways (winning!) Admit to questionable legitimacy of election, or disparage the credibility of domestic intelligence. Bravo. Two claps.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 17, 2018, 11:25:32 AM
He also, according to staffers, literally doesn't understand the difference between the interference charges and the collusion charges.  He thinks by admitting that Russia hacked the DNC, he is admitting to working with Russia.

I mean, there is that and the fact he's guilty as fuck and did collude with Russia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 18, 2018, 01:39:08 AM
 What does A Postmortem Deconstruction of The Cartesian Theatre having incestuous sex in public with The Externalization of the Hierarchy look like in hindsight?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
PEAS IN ARE TIME

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-defending-tiny-nato-ally-montenegro-could-lead-to-world-war-iii/ar-AAAf8xN?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
The highy aggressive Montenegro with it's terrifying....1920 active military personnel. 

Clearly they're spoiling for a fight against Russia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 18, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
The highy aggressive Montenegro with it's terrifying....1920 active military personnel. 

Clearly they're spoiling for a fight against Russia.

Just because Russia was plotting to assassinate their entire government.


Poor sportsmanship, I call it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2018, 07:24:58 PM
They did aggressively put down that Russian sponsored coup attempt.  Could have at least allowed them to kill half the government before responding.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, I was just reading about that.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:45:46 PM
Mueller needs help.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Marburger/5376_150184875341_520745341_3845870.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, I was just reading about that.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324

Did you read about a similar operation involving a Russian businessman mobilising the Macedonian and Greek far-right against the name change for Macedonia?  Because that was recently uncovered and is superficially quite similar.  Greek butthurt over the Macedonian state's name is literally the only thing preventing Macedonia from joining NATO, getting involved in EU talks...and so of course, Russia loves the butthurt and wants to encourage it as much as possible.  Including through backing far-right paramilitaries to threaten people in favour of the deal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 18, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, I was just reading about that.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324

Did you read about a similar operation involving a Russian businessman mobilising the Macedonian and Greek far-right against the name change for Macedonia?  Because that was recently uncovered and is superficially quite similar.  Greek butthurt over the Macedonian state's name is literally the only thing preventing Macedonia from joining NATO, getting involved in EU talks...and so of course, Russia loves the butthurt and wants to encourage it as much as possible.  Including through backing far-right paramilitaries to threaten people in favour of the deal.

How come everyone keeps thinking that sticking their dicks in the Balkans is a way to dominance?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 18, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
I feel like Russia has stumbled across the formula for the domestic policy equivalent of the Brown Note, like they've discovered a zero-day exploit for human nature itself, and there really isn't anything we can do about it because our source code was, through some evolutionary fluke, designed specifically to allow this sort of thing.

What's more, I'm not even mad at Russia. I'm mostly just sad we didn't get there first, especially since the CIA spent so many decades almost getting there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2018, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 18, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, I was just reading about that.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324

Did you read about a similar operation involving a Russian businessman mobilising the Macedonian and Greek far-right against the name change for Macedonia?  Because that was recently uncovered and is superficially quite similar.  Greek butthurt over the Macedonian state's name is literally the only thing preventing Macedonia from joining NATO, getting involved in EU talks...and so of course, Russia loves the butthurt and wants to encourage it as much as possible.  Including through backing far-right paramilitaries to threaten people in favour of the deal.

How come everyone keeps thinking that sticking their dicks in the Balkans is a way to dominance?

The EU, perhaps surprisingly, is the only one making actual headway there, and it's doing it by treading softly and relying on access to European markets to drive the Balkan states towards modernisation, weeding out corruption and improving regulations.

It's...not working out so great, but on the downisde, no-one is angry at the EU for simply existing, barring the Brexit gang.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 18, 2018, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 18, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
Yeah, I was just reading about that.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324

Did you read about a similar operation involving a Russian businessman mobilising the Macedonian and Greek far-right against the name change for Macedonia?  Because that was recently uncovered and is superficially quite similar.  Greek butthurt over the Macedonian state's name is literally the only thing preventing Macedonia from joining NATO, getting involved in EU talks...and so of course, Russia loves the butthurt and wants to encourage it as much as possible.  Including through backing far-right paramilitaries to threaten people in favour of the deal.

How come everyone keeps thinking that sticking their dicks in the Balkans is a way to dominance?

The EU, perhaps surprisingly, is the only one making actual headway there, and it's doing it by treading softly and relying on access to European markets to drive the Balkan states towards modernisation, weeding out corruption and improving regulations.

It's...not working out so great, but on the downisde, no-one is angry at the EU for simply existing, barring the Brexit gang.

No, I mean "why does it seem reasonable - every time someone gets a case of the ass - to fuck around in the Balkans?"

There has NEVER been anything to win there, and it always ends in a big messy war.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 18, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
I feel like Russia has stumbled across the formula for the domestic policy equivalent of the Brown Note, like they've discovered a zero-day exploit for human nature itself, and there really isn't anything we can do about it because our source code was, through some evolutionary fluke, designed specifically to allow this sort of thing.

What's more, I'm not even mad at Russia. I'm mostly just sad we didn't get there first, especially since the CIA spent so many decades almost getting there.

The CIA was of course handicapped by the national John Wayne complex.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 19, 2018, 01:04:02 AM
White House says Trump to discuss allowing Russia to question US citizens

As per the article:

'White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that President Trump will discuss allowing Russian investigators to come to the United States to question U.S. citizens, including a former American ambassador to Russia.

Sanders said during a White House press briefing that Trump is "gonna meet with his team" to talk about the potential for Russian officials to question U.S. citizens like Michael McFaul, who was ambassador to Russia from January 2012 to February 2014.

"There was some conversation about it, but there wasn't a commitment made on behalf of the United States," Sanders said. "The president will work with his team and we'll let you know if there's an announcement on that front."'

Here's the link: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/397701-white-house-trump-open-to-russia-questioning-us-citizens

treachery

n., pl. -er•ies.

1. violation of faith; betrayal of trust.
2. an act of perfidy, faithlessness, or treason.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 01:11:19 AM
If they try and hand McFaul over to the Russians, I think you'll see the first defection of a (former) US ambassador.  He'll be in Canada or New Zealand or Germany before you can say "what the fuck" and he won't come back.

It would be incredibly stupid....but McFaul has also been incredibly critical of Trump, who we all know is an emotional man-child driven by petty emotions and a need for revenge. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: axod on July 19, 2018, 01:54:45 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 18, 2018, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 18, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
I feel like Russia has stumbled across the formula for the domestic policy equivalent of the Brown Note, like they've discovered a zero-day exploit for human nature itself, and there really isn't anything we can do about it because our source code was, through some evolutionary fluke, designed specifically to allow this sort of thing.

What's more, I'm not even mad at Russia. I'm mostly just sad we didn't get there first, especially since the CIA spent so many decades almost getting there.

The CIA was of course handicapped by the national John Wayne complex.
Under protest, I am now forced to watch the last episode of this season's West World. You lot!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 19, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
I don't know how legit this is, or how serious it is, but it FEELS really important...

The Macedonian fake news cottage industry, which flourished by churning out pro-Trump clickbait in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, was not established by apolitical teens and young men just looking to make a quick buck, as initial reports in 2016 suggested.

Instead, these adolescents were simply following a trend launched by a Macedonian media attorney who worked extensively with two prominent American conservatives for at least six months during the election season. 

Before his operation fell under the ax... Arsov worked closely with Paris Wade, currently a Republican candidate for the Nevada State Assembly, and Ben Goldman, a conservative writer and publisher. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/american-conservatives-fake-news-macedonia-paris-wade-libert)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 03:46:11 PM
It's pretty important.  And yes, whoever did those initial investigations really dropped the fucking ball, so props to Buzzfeed and OCCRP for following them up.

Interesting that Anna Bogacheva was there in 2015, too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 19, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
I constantly have to remind myself that Buzzfeed is kind of a trusted news source, these days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 03:59:00 PM
Buzzfeed has, for what they spend on it, one of the best investigative journalism teams out there.  Their investigations into suspected Russian assassinations on UK soil is one of the best pieces of journalism published in the past few years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 04:02:46 PM
It's amazing.  I turn on my computer and treason flows out and ruins my carpet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
You're going to find this amusing Roger...it looks like emails between Tad Devine and Paul Manafort are going to be brought up at the latter's trial.

Devine, for those who don't know, was Bernie Sanders' campaign manager.  He was in fact the guy who convinced him to run in the first place.  Devine also worked closely with Manafort in Ukraine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2018, 05:11:30 PM
You're going to find this amusing Roger...it looks like emails between Tad Devine and Paul Manafort are going to be brought up at the latter's trial.

Devine, for those who don't know, was Bernie Sanders' campaign manager.  He was in fact the guy who convinced him to run in the first place.  Devine also worked closely with Manafort in Ukraine.

Holeeeeeeey shit  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
Prediction:  When I turn on FB tonight, the Berners who aren't already saying there was no collusion will be saying that there was no collusion.

I may be able to collect up enough tears to season a steak.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
It doesn't look like it references anything from the 2016 campaign period itself, focusing between 2006 and 10...but still could be pretty damning.  Well, I assume if it wasn't damning, it wouldn't be entered as evidence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 19, 2018, 07:52:39 PM
The good news is that we're going to have a boom in the Mathematics industry, as mathematicians will need to count higher than ever before to describe the number of ways Russia has completely pwned the American political system.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 19, 2018, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 19, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
I don't know how legit this is, or how serious it is, but it FEELS really important...

The Macedonian fake news cottage industry, which flourished by churning out pro-Trump clickbait in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, was not established by apolitical teens and young men just looking to make a quick buck, as initial reports in 2016 suggested.

Instead, these adolescents were simply following a trend launched by a Macedonian media attorney who worked extensively with two prominent American conservatives for at least six months during the election season. 

Before his operation fell under the ax... Arsov worked closely with Paris Wade, currently a Republican candidate for the Nevada State Assembly, and Ben Goldman, a conservative writer and publisher. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/american-conservatives-fake-news-macedonia-paris-wade-libert)

Never trust Former Yugoslav republic that lays claim to name of Macedonia
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 09:05:26 PM
Interesting times.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 10:10:43 PM
Nunes is covering himself in glory.  By which I mean "the swamp".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nunes-used-political-donations-for-dollar15k-in-nba-tickets-winery-tours-vegas-trips-report/ar-AAAj3dg?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 10:18:51 PM
And Rand Paul delivers his high quality craziness & ass kissing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-'trump-derangement-syndrome'-has-infiltrated-the-senate/ar-AAAjUTr?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 11:10:17 PM
Best read today:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maria-butina-explained-the-accused-russian-spy-who-tried-to-sway-us-politics-through-the-nra/ar-AAAiEDe?ocid=spartanntp

Cain, does this sound right to you?  I don't know enough to judge it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 11:10:17 PM
Best read today:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maria-butina-explained-the-accused-russian-spy-who-tried-to-sway-us-politics-through-the-nra/ar-AAAiEDe?ocid=spartanntp

Cain, does this sound right to you?  I don't know enough to judge it.

Yup, I only skimmed it, but everything I looked at there was absolutely correct.  Torshin, Russian outreach to the NRA, the dodgy money, teaming up with Erickson...it's about a dozen different stories that have been published over the past two years,  but credit to MSN, they put it together into a single narrative that shows the bigger picture.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Oh, btw, Trump has invited Putin to visit the USA this autumn.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 19, 2018, 11:54:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Oh, btw, Trump has invited Putin to visit the USA this autumn.

Yeah, I saw that.  They're not really a couple until they screw in both houses.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Just in time for the mid-terms, too.  Because...Putin is really popular with Americans?

Oh, Republicans also blocked subpoena to get the testimony of the translator at the secret meeting.  Despite, you know, the past 3 days.  Congressional oversight for foreign policy only extends to Mr Ben Ghazi and how Shillary killed him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Just in time for the mid-terms, too.  Because...Putin is really popular with Americans?

Oh, Republicans also blocked subpoena to get the testimony of the translator at the secret meeting.  Despite, you know, the past 3 days.  Congressional oversight for foreign policy only extends to Mr Ben Ghazi and how Shillary killed him.

78% of republicans are apparently totally okay with all of this shit.

A mean, small-minded man would bring this up every time they jabber about patriotism for the next 50 years.

You know, like me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 20, 2018, 01:55:16 AM
Cuomo administration opens probe into Trump Foundation, officials say

As per the article:

'"Gov. Cuomo believes there is one set of rules for everyone – no matter who you are or how much power you have," one Cuomo aide said. "This matter will be investigated to the fullest possible extent, and if appropriate, referred for criminal prosecution."


Word of the investigation surfaced hours after Cuomo counsel Alphonso David said the governor would be willing to give the attorney general's office a referral to launch a criminal probe into President Trump's charitable foundation – if the AG wants it.'

Here's the link: http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/23213170.jpg?resize=807x807

I Love New York!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 20, 2018, 02:04:05 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Just in time for the mid-terms, too.  Because...Putin is really popular with Americans?

Oh, Republicans also blocked subpoena to get the testimony of the translator at the secret meeting.  Despite, you know, the past 3 days.  Congressional oversight for foreign policy only extends to Mr Ben Ghazi and how Shillary killed him.

78% of republicans are apparently totally okay with all of this shit.

A mean, small-minded man would bring this up every time they jabber about patriotism for the next 50 years.

You know, like me.

Yeah, that sounds like something a real prick would do.

So, where do I apply for the job?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 20, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Just in time for the mid-terms, too.  Because...Putin is really popular with Americans?

Oh, Republicans also blocked subpoena to get the testimony of the translator at the secret meeting.  Despite, you know, the past 3 days.  Congressional oversight for foreign policy only extends to Mr Ben Ghazi and how Shillary killed him.

78% of republicans are apparently totally okay with all of this shit.

A mean, small-minded man would bring this up every time they jabber about patriotism for the next 50 years.

You know, like me.

I am pleased to know you plan on being alive for another 50 years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 20, 2018, 04:40:29 PM
Here are 5 of the craziest Christian fundamentalist cults that feel empowered in the Trump era

As per the article:

"President Donald Trump—despite his alleged sexual activity with porn star Stormy Daniels, two divorces, lack of Biblical knowledge and a reputation for having a very foul mouth at times—has, ironically, become an icon of the Christian Right in the United States. His predecessor at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Barack Obama, actually has a long history of going to church and clearly possesses a greater knowledge of the Bible. Regardless, the Christian Right considers Obama an enemy and Trump a staunch ally—and with Trump in office, extremist groups are coming out of the woodwork more and more.

Here are some of the craziest far-right sects, organizations or Christian fundamentalist movements that are feeling empowered in the Trump era."

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/5-craziest-christian-fundamentalist-cults-feel-empowered-trump-era/

I've heard of Quiverfull, but the rest are unknown to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
NYT is reporting that Michael Cohen secretly recorded audio of Trump discussing the pay offs for porn stars he'd slept with, and that the FBI now has that tape.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 20, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 20, 2018, 12:45:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 12:00:40 AM
Just in time for the mid-terms, too.  Because...Putin is really popular with Americans?

Oh, Republicans also blocked subpoena to get the testimony of the translator at the secret meeting.  Despite, you know, the past 3 days.  Congressional oversight for foreign policy only extends to Mr Ben Ghazi and how Shillary killed him.

78% of republicans are apparently totally okay with all of this shit.

A mean, small-minded man would bring this up every time they jabber about patriotism for the next 50 years.

You know, like me.

I am pleased to know you plan on being alive for another 50 years.

Or I'll die trying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2018, 06:54:08 PM
Oh, it also turned out that Wikileaks had a data cache on Manafort communications that they chose to not publish, despite its obvious newsworthiness.  Emma Best has released them instead.  http://emma.best/2018/07/20/a-note-on-the-manafort-texts/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on July 20, 2018, 07:51:15 PM
The group sex bits.   :eek:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DikVy9SXUAAkRZS.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 20, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
'Manhattan Madam' Kristin Davis subpoenaed in Mueller probe

As per the article:

"Kristin Davis, the madam made famous for her role in the 2008 sex scandal that brought down former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, has been subpoenaed by the special counsel's office, according to a report Friday.

Davis, who once ran for governor and controller before being busted selling prescription pills, worked with flamboyant Republican consultant Roger Stone for a decade."

Here's the link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-manhattan-madam-mueller-davis-stone-20180720-story.html

This "probe" just keeps getting better and better.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2018, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 06:54:08 PM
Oh, it also turned out that Wikileaks had a data cache on Manafort communications that they chose to not publish, despite its obvious newsworthiness.  Emma Best has released them instead.  http://emma.best/2018/07/20/a-note-on-the-manafort-texts/

Ew.

Texts from Manaforts daughters (https://twitter.com/HiIamMikeC/status/1020367743038603264) suggest he forced his wife into group sex against her will on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2018, 12:07:50 AM
And yes this literally makes Manafort a cuck.  Go on, get it out of your systems.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 21, 2018, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 20, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DikVy9SXUAAkRZS.jpg)
:um:
:flare:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 21, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
The entire Republican Party is becoming a Russian asset

As per the article:

"We can speculate on exactly why Trump has been so eager to become Putin's flunky; it's obviously a complicated story with roots that go back decades. But what about the rest of the GOP? Some of them have embraced the annexation of their party with gusto, while others are clearly more reluctant. But let's not forget that they were reluctant to make peace with Trump's takeover of the GOP, too. Eventually, they realized that since Trump had captured the hearts of the Republican base, they had no choice but to get on board if they wanted to survive.

The same has happened, and will likely continue to happen, with Russia. Had you told them 10 years ago that Russian intelligence was going to mount a comprehensive assault on an American election, they'd say that they would respond to such an attack with a furious rage and leave no stone unturned in learning every detail about it so that any collaborators could be mercilessly punished and no such attack could ever occur again. Today though, they're mostly eager to get everyone to think about something else.

It may be because they've convinced themselves that no tactic is too repugnant, no alliance is too distasteful, and no moral compromise is too loathsome when you're serving the lofty goal of keeping Democrats from power. Or it may be that they're terrified that their rabid base will decide that they are insufficiently devoted to the cult of Trump. Whatever the reasons, they've traveled a long way down this road already, and it doesn't look like they're turning back."

Here's the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/20/the-entire-republican-party-is-becoming-a-russian-asset/?utm_term=.f6698c388460
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2018, 04:49:57 PM
On a lighter note.  :lulz:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/unite-the-right-anniversary-white-nationalists-want-to-rally-in-dc-—-and-charlottesville/ar-BBL0OAg?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2018, 05:12:39 PM
And then this happened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-readies-plan-for-dollar12-billion-in-emergency-aid-to-farmers-caught-in-trump's-escalating-trade-war/ar-AAAlJz8?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 24, 2018, 06:37:13 PM
And then Trump claimed Russia was going to hack the elections...in favour of the Democrats.  You may remember me saying this a while back...

Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Because it's all going according to plan.

Honestly, if I was a Russian intelligence operative, you know what I'd be planning right now? Blatantly and obviously supporting the Democrats in 2020, with a very clear crumb trail back to Moscow.

Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.  Meanwhile, 50% of the voting population will think the other 50% are traitor-supporting scum.  Each side will be convinced the other is working with Russia, is illegitimate and unfit to rule.  Throw in a few coordinated protests, maybe encourage a bit of violence and then sit back and watch as the USA rips itself apart.

Russia doesn't care who sits in the White House.  It cares about paralysing the normal function of the US government, giving it a free hand in its near abroad and areas of interest like Syria.  Best way to do that is to take advantage of US hyperpartisanship, and that doesn't mean backing any one player fully.

Called it.  Totally called it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2018, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 24, 2018, 06:37:13 PM
And then Trump claimed Russia was going to hack the elections...in favour of the Democrats.  You may remember me saying this a while back...

Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Because it's all going according to plan.

Honestly, if I was a Russian intelligence operative, you know what I'd be planning right now? Blatantly and obviously supporting the Democrats in 2020, with a very clear crumb trail back to Moscow.

Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.  Meanwhile, 50% of the voting population will think the other 50% are traitor-supporting scum.  Each side will be convinced the other is working with Russia, is illegitimate and unfit to rule.  Throw in a few coordinated protests, maybe encourage a bit of violence and then sit back and watch as the USA rips itself apart.

Russia doesn't care who sits in the White House.  It cares about paralysing the normal function of the US government, giving it a free hand in its near abroad and areas of interest like Syria.  Best way to do that is to take advantage of US hyperpartisanship, and that doesn't mean backing any one player fully.

Called it.  Totally called it.

It's worth mentioning that they are still hammering on the divide, with #Walkaway being a wholly-owned subsidiary of Putin.


I mean, what if he can support BOTH in 2020?  That would be even better, from his point of view.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 24, 2018, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.
If someone starts a war or manufactures a significant external threat at around the same time, he would seem to have a path to declaring himself dictator-for-life.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2018, 11:39:51 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 24, 2018, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2018, 04:47:18 PM
Trump will rage, likely declare the election illegitimate, may refuse to stand down if he loses, will definitely direct the DOJ to go after the Democrats if he somehow still wins.
If someone starts a war or manufactures a significant external threat at around the same time, he would seem to have a path to declaring himself dictator-for-life.

Everyone says that about every president ever.

There is no mechanism for suspending elections in wartime.  Even Lincoln had to stand for reelection in 1864.  Any president who tries that shit will be murdered by his best pals.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 25, 2018, 02:25:32 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2018, 07:04:51 PM
I mean, what if he can support BOTH in 2020?  That would be even better, from his point of view.

True, but I think he'd find it very hard to pull off.  The brown-red alliance that Putin's friends on the left prefer to work through is pretty noticeably absent in the US...either he's going to engineer a miracle and somehow make the Greens the opposition (LOL), get Tulsi Gabbard in power, or he's left with deception.

And I agree, if Trump tried to stay in power, it would be civil war.  Which would suit Russia just fine...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 25, 2018, 02:40:43 AM
Hey guys, look at what LMNO did to the US this morning re:
   White House stops announcing calls with foreign leaders—
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/foreign-leaders-call-white-house/index.html
Quote
Michael Allen, who was a member of the National Security Council during the George W. Bush administration, said that by halting the practice of issuing readouts, the White House loses "the action forcing event of an announced phone call."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 25, 2018, 08:11:24 AM
So now they're trying to do some kind of farmer relief bill, and give farmers $12Bn to help them get through this trade war?

And we just passed massive tax cuts, so we're going to have to borrow that money from China, whom we are now in a trade war with?

Have I got that right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 02:23:40 PM
Since the tariffs don't apply to Brazil, they've been selling their soybeans to China at full price, while buying US soybeans for their own use at the tariff-induced discount.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2156195/soybean-giant-brazil-swoops-us-crop-china-trade-war
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-05/u-s-soy-prices-are-crumbling-as-trade-war-sparks-brazil-rally

One might argue that you're borrowing from China so that Brazil can sell them more soybeans.

This trade war does not appear to be well thought out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 25, 2018, 02:47:04 PM
It doesn't sound so bad, it's bringing people together, I'm sure China and Brazil have never been closer and if they do similar elsewhere Trump will be helping people make friends all around the world.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 25, 2018, 08:11:24 AM
So now they're trying to do some kind of farmer relief bill, and give farmers $12Bn to help them get through this trade war?

And we just passed massive tax cuts, so we're going to have to borrow that money from China, whom we are now in a trade war with?

Have I got that right?

Yes.  As an analogy, we stopped selling WalMart stuff and took a loan out from them instead, so we can pay our bills.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 04:15:23 PM
Also, Trump doesn't seem to realize just how often he admits guilt (not that it would matter, but still):

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blasts-michael-cohen-over-tape-disclosure/ar-BBL26vz?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Screw the farms. They're mostly in red states. Let them reap the whirlwind
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Screw the farms. They're mostly in red states. Let them reap the whirlwind

You're not seeing any kind of flaw in that thinking?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Screw the farms. They're mostly in red states. Let them reap the whirlwind

You're not seeing any kind of flaw in that thinking?  :lulz:

I thought it was clear from the "red states" comment that I was referring specifically and exclusively to American farms. Obviously someone still needs to be growing food somewhere; just not the douchebags around here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
I'm honestly okay with the idea of a military coup followed by a somewhat benevolent (or at least not openly hostile) dictatorship at this point. Surely one of our famous generals is up for it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
I'm honestly okay with the idea of a military coup followed by a somewhat benevolent (or at least not openly hostile) dictatorship at this point. Surely one of our famous generals is up for it?

I can see Mattis doing it, but he's more the Cincinnatus type.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
Screw the farms. They're mostly in red states. Let them reap the whirlwind

You're not seeing any kind of flaw in that thinking?  :lulz:

I thought it was clear from the "red states" comment that I was referring specifically and exclusively to American farms. Obviously someone still needs to be growing food somewhere; just not the douchebags around here.

You seem to have a really keen interest in making people suffer just for the sake of it.

You think farmers elsewhere are any different?  Is there something special about Americans, or are foreigners just too much the noble savage to be assholes?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
The foreigners didn't vote for Trump. Even if they would have they didn't.

And we don't yet have the technology to replace tham all with machines (although hopefully that day will come soon)

Edit:
To be fair, I guess my argument has a bit of american exceptionalism to it. But it's not the standard narrative of american exceptionalism in the same way that colorado weed isn't the standard narrative for states' rights. What I'm doing is saying "not in my back yard" to farming, heavy industry, and coal mining.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-judge-allows-emoluments-case-against-trump-to-proceed/ar-BBL3d1n?ocid=spartanntp

Incoming FUN
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
The foreigners didn't vote for Trump. Even if they would have they didn't.

And we don't yet have the technology to replace tham all with machines (although hopefully that day will come soon)

You could easily be replaced with a predictive text generator.  Just to teach you a lesson or two, mind you.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
I'm honestly okay with the idea of a military coup followed by a somewhat benevolent (or at least not openly hostile) dictatorship at this point. Surely one of our famous generals is up for it?
A benevolent* dictatorship is the best form of government.  Unfortunately, unless you're very lucky with the chain of succession, it can easily be followed by one of the worst forms of government.

*For my personal definition of 'benevolent', of course.  Your results may vary.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
What I'm doing is saying "not in my back yard" to farming, heavy industry, and coal mining.

So it should go to some poorer person's back yard?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 07:42:55 PM
HEY FUCKHEADS (NOT DOK HOWL, HE'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF FUCKHEAD):


TREATING SENTIENTS (IF NOT NECESSARILY BIPEDS) AS WORTHY OF YOUR COMPASSION IS THE FUCKING LEAST OF WHAT I EXPECT FROM YOU.

WANTING PEOPLE TO SUFFER 'TO TEACH THEM A LESSON' MEANS YOU'RE NO LONGER ACTING HUMAN.




I DO NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS JUST BECAUSE YOU FOUND A 50-YEAR OLD BOOK THAT HAD AT LEAST THREE GOOD IDEAS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 07:42:55 PM
HEY FUCKHEADS (NOT DOK HOWL, HE'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF FUCKHEAD):


TREATING SENTIENTS (IF NOT NECESSARILY BIPEDS) AS WORTHY OF YOUR COMPASSION IS THE FUCKING LEAST OF WHAT I EXPECT FROM YOU.

WANTING PEOPLE TO SUFFER 'TO TEACH THEM A LESSON' MEANS YOU'RE NO LONGER BIPEDAL.




I DO NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS JUST BECAUSE YOU FOUND A 50-YEAR OLD BOOK THAT HAD AT LEAST THREE GOOD IDEAS.

Or a 1600 year old book that's full of great bronze age hero stories, for that matter.

I want to see more farming and heavy industry, I just want it done smarter, and since humans as a group will not willingly do things the smart way, we need regulation.  But for the same reason, all the regulations have been repealed.  Because humans.

But to say that you want an entire sector of the country to be punished to teach those no-good shits a thing or two isn't a good thing.  It's not even original.  It is in fact what the policy makers in Washington are doing right now, to those who have the bad judgement to be female, brown, Gay, poor, etc.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you're not careful, you turn into what you hate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 07:49:52 PM
Francisco Goya was right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
I don't want people to suffer "to teach them a lesson". I just want them to suffer. Smart vertical farming technology makes sense economically and environmentally, and it would be great if we did it. But because people are people, there's no way we ever actually will do it, so it seems like requiring it is among the most guaranteed ways of getting people to suffer.

ETA: As for becoming what I hate, I've already been a human being for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
I don't want people to suffer "to teach them a lesson". I just want them to suffer.

Then this is your time, and our nation is doing the work of the angels.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 07:49:52 PM
Francisco Goya was right.

"I have now established myself in a most enviable manner. Those who require something of me must seek me out - I remain apart. I work for no one unless he is a high-ranking personality or a friend."

:?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
http://www.richardharrisartcollection.com/portfolio-view/francisco-goya-2/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
http://www.richardharrisartcollection.com/portfolio-view/francisco-goya-2/

Well, yes.  The act of brutalizing someone always brutalizes more than one person, because the person doing it is brutalized as well.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 08:06:28 PM
On the flip side, you have Elin Ersson, a name worth googling today.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 08:28:30 PM
Wow.  That takes some considerable strength.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 25, 2018, 08:28:30 PM
Wow.  That takes some considerable strength.

Yes, it does.  Fortunately, she lives in a semi-civilized nation.  If she did it here, she'd never be seen again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 08:48:25 PM
And then this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-pushes-25-percent-auto-tariff-as-top-advisers-scramble-to-stop-him/2018/07/25/f7b9af04-8f8a-11e8-8322-b5482bf5e0f5_story.html?utm_term=.98203f83d420
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.

The great thing about tiny veggie farming is that we used leaded gasoline for 70 years.  The exhaust fumes fade away in seconds, but the lead residue is forever.

Also, if you're going to build giant farm arcologies, you use nuclear power, because the waste heat is just as valuable as the electricity, and you already have a giant goddamn water supply for the reactor.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on July 25, 2018, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 25, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.

I think the idea is that you get better efficiency of use of resources when everything is laid out in a grid resourced over multiple levels, water distribution from top down, etc. The energyfoot print for 100 stories would be large but four story farms with solar on the top can be much more efficient then the same over a plateau.
100% solar powered farms are not likely to be efficient though, and the grid isn't ready to adapt to that because we don't have great energy storage and solar and wind result in reduced inertia on the grid, meaning the frequency can deviate more easily, low frequency results in brown or black outs, high frequency make transformer go boom.
I agree with more efficient use of space and resources for farms and supporting them with solar, combined heat and power, gas from pig shit and so on, solar alone isn't the magic wand.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 25, 2018, 11:28:36 PM
My main issue was with powering 100 stories purely from solar.  Four stories worth seems more in the range of common sense.  It's not as if conventional agriculture has a 100x sunlight surplus.

A nuclear-powered arcology might be a good way to proceed if we ever need to colonize Antarctica...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 26, 2018, 12:22:07 AM
Re: 4 story Farm- "Suns in Rowses" — or, "Growing upside Down"

Instead of building four vertical floors of solar-powered "greenhouse", there would be horizontal arrays of staggered 'axels'. Each axel would carry four sets of crop lengthwise, at 90deg. from each other round the axel's circumference. The placement of plants is staggered to allow free rotation of each axel w.r.t. the one's next to it. If plants vary in size sufficiently, the axel array itself can be arranged in circular manner. Space between axels is for solar panels powering LEDs for non top-side plants. Low-tech alternative uses mirrors, and axels turned by hand crank.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on July 26, 2018, 01:19:07 AM
on the subject of sun harnessing technology I thought I'd share this cuz it's kinda neat

words and pictures (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a22642/lowline-new-york-city-underground-park/)

a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCN5rsHIUl8)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 26, 2018, 01:58:06 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 25, 2018, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 25, 2018, 06:46:17 PM
The foreigners didn't vote for Trump. Even if they would have they didn't.

And we don't yet have the technology to replace tham all with machines (although hopefully that day will come soon)

You could easily be replaced with a predictive text generator.  Just to teach you a lesson or two, mind you.

Correction. I could be replaced with a Coke machine. Because my day job is retrieving bottles from numbered locations in a warehouse
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 27, 2018, 02:48:49 AM
Cohen says Trump was aware of the June 2016 "Russian government offers dirt on Hillary Clinton" meeting, and he'll testify to that to the Special Prosecutor.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2018, 03:56:22 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 27, 2018, 02:48:49 AM
Cohen says Trump was aware of the June 2016 "Russian government offers dirt on Hillary Clinton" meeting, and he'll testify to that to the Special Prosecutor.

This is gonna be like the Munich assassins scene from the Pink Panther movies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 27, 2018, 04:11:59 AM
Trump is definitely the kind of man who would hire a midget with a crossbow to take someone out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
And this isn't really a surprise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/american-racists-look-for-allies-in-russia/ar-BBL4J8B?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 29, 2018, 01:39:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 27, 2018, 02:48:49 AM
Cohen says Trump was aware of the June 2016 "Russian government offers dirt on Hillary Clinton" meeting, and he'll testify to that to the Special Prosecutor.

Which throws Jnr and kushner under the bus. Which also suggests that idiot will soon drive said bus over them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 29, 2018, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
And this isn't really a surprise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/american-racists-look-for-allies-in-russia/ar-BBL4J8B?ocid=spartanntp

It's stuff like this that makes me wonder if the world wouldn't have been better off, in the long run, if the USA and USSR had nuked each other. If this that we're living isn't the bad outcome.

(In the long run of course. Obviously in the short run obviously a lot of people would die and there's be crop failures from the nuclear winter and there qould probably be a scramble for north america and eurasia by the countries too unimportant to have been hit, ironically now the most important, but when the smoke cleared there'd be no USA and no Russia
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2018, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 29, 2018, 01:39:29 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 27, 2018, 02:48:49 AM
Cohen says Trump was aware of the June 2016 "Russian government offers dirt on Hillary Clinton" meeting, and he'll testify to that to the Special Prosecutor.

Which throws Jnr and kushner under the bus. Which also suggests that idiot will soon drive said bus over them.

Yeah, there's no corroboration so far....but Cohen has shown he has been keeping his own secret records.  Beyond that, there was a phone call made by Donald Jr directly after the event, to a withheld number, which was not investigated by the House Intelligence Committee.  If Mueller can get a warrant to get that number, it will of course be Donald Trump's himself.  Which won't prove prior knowledge, but it will show his statement on the meeting to be a complete fabrication.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2018, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 29, 2018, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
And this isn't really a surprise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/american-racists-look-for-allies-in-russia/ar-BBL4J8B?ocid=spartanntp

It's stuff like this that makes me wonder if the world wouldn't have been better off, in the long run, if the USA and USSR had nuked each other. If this that we're living isn't the bad outcome.

(In the long run of course. Obviously in the short run obviously a lot of people would die and there's be crop failures from the nuclear winter and there qould probably be a scramble for north america and eurasia by the countries too unimportant to have been hit, ironically now the most important, but when the smoke cleared there'd be no USA and no Russia

In the short run, it's an extinction event for everything more developed than vent worms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 30, 2018, 12:52:12 AM
Reuters is reporting that Trump's re-election flags are ready to ship.  One problem - they're being made in China, and so will be subject to Trump's own tariffs
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 30, 2018, 03:52:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 30, 2018, 12:52:12 AM
Reuters is reporting that Trump's re-election flags are ready to ship.  One problem - they're being made in China, and so will be subject to Trump's own tariffs

I bet someone gets caught in some fuckery about that, and an additional bet that Trump will leave whoever it is swinging in the breeze.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 31, 2018, 09:39:03 PM
AND THEN YOU GET OVER-EXCITED AND AND AND

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-koch-brothers-total-joke-overrated/ar-BBLiDcg?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 01, 2018, 03:29:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 31, 2018, 09:39:03 PM
AND THEN YOU GET OVER-EXCITED AND AND AND

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-koch-brothers-total-joke-overrated/ar-BBLiDcg?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on August 01, 2018, 03:35:40 AM
Direct subsidies to farmers are a bad idea. Not because farmers don't need help and not because they shouldn't be helped but because it gives them a bunch of money to invest in changing careers at the moment their chosen career looks like a bad idea.  A massive increase in food stamps would be just as good for farmers while also ensuring hungry people get fed
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 01, 2018, 07:27:11 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 01, 2018, 03:35:40 AM
Direct subsidies to farmers are a bad idea. Not because farmers don't need help and not because they shouldn't be helped but because it gives them a bunch of money to invest in changing careers at the moment their chosen career looks like a bad idea.  A massive increase in food stamps would be just as good for farmers while also ensuring hungry people get fed

Prolly more like "Direct subsidies to giant agribusiness conglomerates are a bad Idea, because they will just use that money to invest in the private prison system."


or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 05:16:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-playboy-model-wants-additional-dollar200k-from-top-gop-donor/ar-BBLkLe8?ocid=spartanntp

AND YA DON'T STOP
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
I don't think Trump understands what recusal means, because he just asked Sessions to shut down the Mueller inquiry on Twitter.

Sessions, of course, can't shut it down because Rosenstein is the person in charge of the investigation. 

I think in this case, it would be best to let the President stew in his ignorance.  Interesting timing though, just as Mueller is reported to be closely scrutinizing Trump Jr and Kushner, and as Manafort goes on trial.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 06:57:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
I don't think Trump understands what recusal means, because he just asked Sessions to shut down the Mueller inquiry on Twitter.

Sessions, of course, can't shut it down because Rosenstein is the person in charge of the investigation. 

I think in this case, it would be best to let the President stew in his ignorance.  Interesting timing though, just as Mueller is reported to be closely scrutinizing Trump Jr and Kushner, and as Manafort goes on trial.

What Trump doesn't understand is that he is saying something, and someone is telling him "no."  This is not the natural order of things.  Trump says, the help and other little people do.  So now one of the help is saying "no" and Trump simply can't process it.  It's like a hammerhead shark being shown threat postures.  He's not so much mad as bewildered, this is signal that neither nature nor nurture every equipped him to deal with.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 07:53:19 PM
It can ALWAYS get funnier.  ALWAYS.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/'we-are-q'-a-deranged-conspiracy-cult-leaps-from-the-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trump's-'maga'-tour/ar-BBLlNdc?ocid=spartanntp

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
C&P the link, not sure why it's truncating it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 07:58:41 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-united-states-was-allowed-to-truly-get-ripped-off-trump-tells-raucous-florida-crowd/ar-BBLl2cC?ocid=spartanntp

It's so sad that I'm not allowed to say "Merry Christmas" while I present ID so I can buy groceries.  :cry:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2018, 08:01:57 PM
Qanon is going to get someone killed.  I've been saying it for months, it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 08:05:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2018, 08:01:57 PM
Qanon is going to get someone killed.  I've been saying it for months, it's only a matter of time.

Obviously. 

I mean, the Comet Pizza shooting was remarkable only in that the gunman deliberately fired away from people to make his point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 08:21:53 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/death-threats-flood-auto-shop-where-immigrant-girl-hid-after-escaping-detention-center/ar-BBLidwW?ocid=spartanntp

Quote"Look, we gave this girl water, offered her food; I treated her as my own daughter," Gonzalez said. "I explained to her that the police want to 'make America great again' by uniting her with her family, but for that to happen, she needs to cooperate."

He added: "We live in a country with laws, laws I had to follow, even if it breaks my heart."

"Turning Anne Frank over was awful, but what choice did we have?"
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:mullet:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 01, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
"We treated her like our own daughter" = we turned her over to psychopathic strangers who stuck her in a cage in the desert.

I think social services need to be called, to see how his daughter is doing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
"We treated her like our own daughter" = we turned her over to psychopathic strangers who stuck her in a cage in the desert.

I think social services need to be called, to see how his daughter is doing.

Pretty much.

"We didn't call her in someone else did but we called her in."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 02, 2018, 01:54:06 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 08:21:53 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/death-threats-flood-auto-shop-where-immigrant-girl-hid-after-escaping-detention-center/ar-BBLidwW?ocid=spartanntp

Quote"Look, we gave this girl water, offered her food; I treated her as my own daughter," Gonzalez said. "I explained to her that the police want to 'make America great again' by uniting her with her family, but for that to happen, she needs to cooperate."

He added: "We live in a country with laws, laws I had to follow, even if it breaks my heart."

Oh my god... that last bit sounds like something out of the villain's monologue from A Few Good Men
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 02, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 01, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
C&P the link, not sure why it's truncating it.

I did. Holy. Fucking. Shit!

There's a small part of me that wants to join and do nothing but stir the pot. I want to go all Atlantis and shit. Maybe start a little side cult.

but fuck that. Too much work too little payout. Better to just keep myself at a safe distance as it develops. Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if or how the Cult of Kek ties into all this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on August 02, 2018, 03:10:35 PM
(https://redgreenalliancedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/conspiracy-theorist-cia-label.jpg?w=504&h=504)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 02, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Mike Pence (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39148306) and Jared Kushner (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41382495) used private email for whitehouse business; a practice that the Republican party claimed to be opposed to when Hillary did it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 02, 2018, 06:12:07 PM
This looks like it's developing into a real feud.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-keeps-up-attacks-against-billionaire-charles-koch/ar-BBLoCZ1?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 02, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 02, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Mike Pence (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39148306) and Jared Kushner (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41382495) used private email for whitehouse business; a practice that the Republican party claimed to be opposed to when Hillary did it.

This was known at least a year ago... If you haven't gotten the memo yet, nothing matters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 02, 2018, 08:03:12 PM
Trump is using an unsecured phone for goverment business on a daily basis, and giving out the number to other foreign leaders  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: axod on August 02, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
mr. Trump, pls to get off the punch-line :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2018, 04:40:47 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-associate-socialized-with-alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-in-final-weeks-of-2016-campaign/2018/08/03/d87c1d84-96a6-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html?utm_term=.7c859829019a

For those locked out:

QuoteButina sought out interactions with J.D. Gordon, who served for six months as the Trump campaign's director of national security before leaving in August 2016 and being offered a role in the nascent Trump transition effort, according to documents and testimony provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee and described to The Washington Post.

The two exchanged several emails in September and October 2016, culminating in an invitation from Gordon to attend a concert by the rock band Styx in Washington. Gordon also invited Butina to attend his birthday party in late October of that year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 04, 2018, 06:53:57 AM
Styx?

REALLY?   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2018, 07:49:33 AM
Russian spies love Styx, you heard it here first.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on August 04, 2018, 04:20:24 PM
CNN interviews QAnon lunatics supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGVXmuLmEM
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 04, 2018, 05:01:52 PM
And now from Fox News The Ministry of Propaganda:

Fox's Trish Regan Says Maybe Putin Tricked Trump With Hillary's Help

As per the article:

"Trish Regan melodramatically presented a conspiracy theory that may foreshadow a Trump defense to come: that Vladimir Putin set up Donald Trump to look like he was colluding with the Russian president, possibly in cahoots with Hillary Clinton. Seriously."

Here's the link: https://crooksandliars.com/2018/08/foxs-trish-regan-says-maybe-putin-tricked

Yes, seriously.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2018, 05:36:48 PM
Which is of course why Trump *checks notes* completely fails to criticize Russia at every given opportunity.

That's almost as dumb as the Marc Thiessen article in the WaPo which argued that the Russian government colluding with Trump is exactly the same as Russian citizens talking to Christopher Steele for the Orbis dossier, because both involve Russians and American politics.  Sure one involves a government and a whole range of illegal activities, while the other does not and mostly involves in collecting rumours, but apart from that, they're almost exactly the same.

I suppose all those years of arguing for waterboarding have rotted Thiessen's brain away entirely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2018, 05:41:30 PM
Also this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-accused-of-swindling-business-associates-out-of-more-than-dollar120-million/ar-BBLBX93?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 07, 2018, 06:11:00 PM
On the plus side, Manafort's aide, Rick Gates, basically spilled all their crimes in court yesterday.

Gates totally turned on him.  You might say Manafort got...Rick-rolled.   8)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 07, 2018, 06:11:00 PM
On the plus side, Manafort's aide, Rick Gates, basically spilled all their crimes in court yesterday.

Gates totally turned on him.  You might say Manafort got...Rick-rolled.   8)
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:lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2018, 08:21:46 PM
I'm addicted to orange.  You're going to jail, and so am I.
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:hammer:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 08, 2018, 02:21:23 AM
I'm glad it's not just the UK who gets the cold shoulder treatment from Trump when something happens and we could use some backup.

So, Canada criticised Saudi Arabia recently, calling on them to release activists.  Saudi Arabia's reaction has been to:

1) Expel the Canadian ambassador
2) Stop all flights to Toronto
3) Recall all Saudi students in Canada by cancelling their sponsorship
4) Go on a hilariously ill-advised PR campaign which, among other things, takes Canada to task for how they treat drug addicts, indigenous peoples and Quebec.

The reaction from the White House has been a stunning amount of silence.  They haven't even told the Saudis to take chill pill, which would be the moderate end for responses by any other President (the more likely one being the KSA Ambassador to the US being called into a meeting and told to convey a message to the Kingdom to cut their shit out).

It's not a big deal, in the grand scheme of things.  But that's kinda the problem.  Canadians are saying if the US can't even rouse themselves to voice a complaint over this, can they be relied on if things get really rough?  The last year suggests no, and this is pretty much confirming that suspicion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 02:23:44 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 08, 2018, 02:21:23 AM
I'm glad it's not just the UK who gets the cold shoulder treatment from Trump when something happens and we could use some backup.

So, Canada criticised Saudi Arabia recently, calling on them to release activists.  Saudi Arabia's reaction has been to:

1) Expel the Canadian ambassador
2) Stop all flights to Toronto
3) Recall all Saudi students in Canada by cancelling their sponsorship
4) Go on a hilariously ill-advised PR campaign which, among other things, takes Canada to task for how they treat drug addicts, indigenous peoples and Quebec.

The reaction from the White House has been a stunning amount of silence.  They haven't even told the Saudis to take chill pill, which would be the moderate end for responses by any other President (the more likely one being the KSA Ambassador to the US being called into a meeting and told to convey a message to the Kingdom to cut their shit out).

It's not a big deal, in the grand scheme of things.  But that's kinda the problem.  Canadians are saying if the US can't even rouse themselves to voice a complaint over this, can they be relied on if things get really rough?  The last year suggests no, and this is pretty much confirming that suspicion.

If I were Canada, I'd be looking at Germany right now.  And Saudis would get zero trade.  Like none at all.  Bye, Felicia, we have our own oil.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 08, 2018, 02:40:56 AM
Canada has been taking on something of a leading role in NATO at the governmental level, in the absence of strong leadership from the White House.

I haven't read any official Canadian government responses yet, but the Canadian national-security people I talk with are mostly like "uh...OK, country that literally executes apostates, tell us more aboot how terrible we are".  We all know, more or less, that Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman is a raging asshole of epic proportions and a gigantic man-child, so this reaction isn't entirely surprising.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 08, 2018, 03:15:45 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 02:23:44 AM
If I were Canada, I'd be looking at Germany right now.  And Saudis would get zero trade.  Like none at all.

Sounds like a good idea, but I think we still have an ongoing $15 billion dollar contract (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/justin-trudeau-defends-canada-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia) to sell the Saudis some armoured vehicles.

It was set up by the previous Conservative government in 2014, but the Liberals carried through with it, because "a contract's a contract" or something.  (Way to take a strong stance on human rights, there.)

I'm curious to see how that is going to play into all this.  I'm hoping the contract is cancelled outright, but I'm well past expecting consistent behaviour from my fellow humans.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 03:27:38 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 08, 2018, 03:15:45 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 02:23:44 AM
If I were Canada, I'd be looking at Germany right now.  And Saudis would get zero trade.  Like none at all.

Sounds like a good idea, but I think we still have an ongoing $15 billion dollar contract (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/justin-trudeau-defends-canada-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia) to sell the Saudis some armoured vehicles.

It was set up by the previous Conservative government in 2014, but the Liberals carried through with it, because "a contract's a contract" or something.  (Way to take a strong stance on human rights, there.)

I'm curious to see how that is going to play into all this.  I'm hoping the contract is cancelled outright, but I'm well past expecting consistent behaviour from my fellow humans.

I am positive that you could unload those on the Balkans.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
Another Trumpster, another national embarrassment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-gop-rep-chris-collins-arrested-over-insider-trading-charges/ar-BBLENIL?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 08, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
Another member of the Trump transition team who is so crooked they need a corkscrew to be able to sit down.  Who could've guessed? This investigation also implicates Tom Price, the Secretary of HHS until last September.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 06:40:28 PM
And also this thing occurred.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-warns-countries-against-doing-business-with-iran/ar-BBLBsfa?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 08, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
Meanwhile, the EU has said there will be penalties for those companies which abide by the new US sanctions.

It's basically turning into a trade war.  Another trade war.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2018, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 08, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
Meanwhile, the EU has said there will be penalties for those companies which abide by the new US sanctions.

It's basically turning into a trade war.  Another trade war.

I think of it as a bunch of California fires merging to make a bigger, better fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 09, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
Oh, Nunes, will you never learn?  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/four-biggest-takeaways-from-bombshell-leaked-audio-of-rep-devin-nunes/ar-BBLHwTz?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 09, 2018, 05:28:16 PM
More dispatches from Trump's America™:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-mexico-store-clerk-caught-on-video-calling-911-on-man-for-being-'arrogant'-and-'black'/ar-BBLFuob?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
By this time next week, Trumpsters will give up denying being racist, and will be hollering Arthur Jenson quotes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/omarosa-says-trump-is-a-racist-who-uses-n-word-—-and-claims-theres-tape-to-prove-it/ar-BBLK6Jy?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 12, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
IMO, Omarosa is a bullshit artist.  Note she doesn't say that she has the tapes, or that she has even seen them.

She's got a book to sell.  She was in this for the money from the start, she did nothing while she was actually at the White House and now she's cashing in.  Book releases on Wednesday, so she's doing whatever she can to stay in the headlines until then.

Not that I don't believe Trump is not, in fact, horrifically racist or at the very least comfortable with horrific racism.  I just don't think Omarosa has any proof of anything she is saying, and her credibility is pretty questionable, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on August 12, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Proceeds from book will help fund Trump 2020 campaign
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
No surprise for anyone, but...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trumps-economic-fiction-record-gdp-jobs/ar-BBLQYVD?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 13, 2018, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 12, 2018, 06:24:28 PM
IMO, Omarosa is a bullshit artist.  Note she doesn't say that she has the tapes, or that she has even seen them.

She's got a book to sell.  She was in this for the money from the start, she did nothing while she was actually at the White House and now she's cashing in.  Book releases on Wednesday, so she's doing whatever she can to stay in the headlines until then.

Not that I don't believe Trump is not, in fact, horrifically racist or at the very least comfortable with horrific racism.  I just don't think Omarosa has any proof of anything she is saying, and her credibility is pretty questionable, to put it mildly.

Trump's latest Twitter tantrum on this topic is hilarious btw.

He admits that

1) Omarosa was unqualified (supririsng exactly no-one), and once in office she was actually terrible at her job
2) That she only got the job beacause she praised him (again, no surprises)
3) That Trump was not even aware that she was fired.

I mean, it's damning stuff.  You can see why Trump's lawyers don't want him to meet with Mueller.  Trump always looks for the tactical, short-term advantage, and when he does so, it' often at his own expense, because he's a shameless liar and whatever story he spins undermines any larger narratives about him ("the best people", anyone?)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 08:57:15 PM
When even Kasich is trolling you.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kasich-responds-to-trump-attack-tweet-with-gif-of-putin-laughing/ar-BBLSMFo?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
He doesn't even drink, so this is inexplicable.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-tries-to-call-world-leaders-at-odd-hours-and-has-to-be-reminded-of-different-time-zones-on-a-constant-basis/ar-BBLSvMC?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
He doesn't even drink, so this is inexplicable.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-tries-to-call-world-leaders-at-odd-hours-and-has-to-be-reminded-of-different-time-zones-on-a-constant-basis/ar-BBLSvMC?ocid=spartanntp

Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
He doesn't even drink, so this is inexplicable.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-tries-to-call-world-leaders-at-odd-hours-and-has-to-be-reminded-of-different-time-zones-on-a-constant-basis/ar-BBLSvMC?ocid=spartanntp

Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.

Not unless he's had it since he was 22.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 01:38:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.

Not unless he's had it since he was 22.

I just surfed youtube a bit, so I could present some evidence that Trump once had something resembling a command of the English language, and that his lack of vocabulary was indicative of recent mental decay.
:eek: :horrormirth:
I stand corrected.  It appears that he always talked like this.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 02:42:33 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 01:38:08 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.

Not unless he's had it since he was 22.

I just surfed youtube a bit, so I could present some evidence that Trump once had something resembling a command of the English language, and that his lack of vocabulary was indicative of recent mental decay.
:eek: :horrormirth:
I stand corrected.  It appears that he always talked like this.

I remember the 80s quite clearly.  He was a shitnozzle then, he's a shitnozzle now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2018, 04:20:52 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
He doesn't even drink, so this is inexplicable.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-tries-to-call-world-leaders-at-odd-hours-and-has-to-be-reminded-of-different-time-zones-on-a-constant-basis/ar-BBLSvMC?ocid=spartanntp

Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.

Not unless he's had it since he was 22.

He got it when he was 22 because he was in another time zone and it progressed faster.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 14, 2018, 08:40:20 PM
Roger Stone Posts, Deletes Swastika-Filled Image Of Trump Crew

As per the article:

'Trump confidante Roger Stone on Tuesday posted on Instagram, and then deleted, a photoshopped image prominently showing him and other Trump affiliates wearing swastikas.

The caption reads: "I love this — proud to be in this crew — but the only lies being told are by the liberal scumbags  #maga #republican #infowars"'

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roger-stone-posts-deletes-swastika-filled-image-of-trump-crew

Maybe Stone plans to pursue an insanity defense, after his eventual indictment.

But, it makes me wonder, yet again, where do these people come from in the first place?!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 15, 2018, 04:34:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2018, 01:09:02 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 14, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
He doesn't even drink, so this is inexplicable.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reportedly-tries-to-call-world-leaders-at-odd-hours-and-has-to-be-reminded-of-different-time-zones-on-a-constant-basis/ar-BBLSvMC?ocid=spartanntp

Early-stage senile dementia is as good an explanation as any.

Not unless he's had it since he was 22.

Early-onset then
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 17, 2018, 09:58:13 PM
So this happened today:

(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39348564_10156579192109393_8823281569645985792_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=209cab35f58b06075d4be1b4b31af7da&oe=5C0944C9)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 17, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Okay ... and Scotland needs him because?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 17, 2018, 11:27:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 17, 2018, 09:58:13 PM
So this happened today:

(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39348564_10156579192109393_8823281569645985792_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=209cab35f58b06075d4be1b4b31af7da&oe=5C0944C9)

You are of course going to extract the mickey?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 18, 2018, 02:18:16 AM
I actually kinda have a soft spot for the Mooch.  He didn't sell out his former employees at SkyBridge when he left, and he saw through Bannon's bullshit.  That automatically puts him in the top 0.5% of Trump appointees in morality and IQ.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2018, 02:29:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2018, 02:18:16 AM
I actually kinda have a soft spot for the Mooch.  He didn't sell out his former employees at SkyBridge when he left, and he saw through Bannon's bullshit.  That automatically puts him in the top 0.5% of Trump appointees in morality and IQ.

Sure, but that shouldn't prevent you from fucking with him some.  I mean, what you say is true, but it's like saying he's the sharpest kid on the short bus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 18, 2018, 02:45:59 AM
True.  Interestingly, he seems to have followed me after I tweeted about Erik Prince and Trump reconsidering his "let mercs pacify Afghanistan" plan...lets see if I can figure out what his interest is first.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 18, 2018, 11:59:49 PM
The purge continues.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-drafts-more-clearance-cancellations-demanded-by-trump/ar-BBM33Be?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 19, 2018, 04:41:29 AM
Pure witness intimidation, this.  Trump's showing what will happen to intelligence personnel if they are too outspoken about his "Russia" issues.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 19, 2018, 05:08:31 PM
Yes, Trump is openly obstructing justice, and tampering with witnesses. And, the majority of people in his political party don't have a problem with his illegal activities.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 19, 2018, 09:38:52 PM
What if - and this is crazy - Rudy is actually a patriot intentionally out to destroy Trump?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-says-trump-tower-meeting-was-to-get-clinton-dirt/ar-BBM83VU?ocid=spartanntp

Because otherwise he is too brain damaged to put his pants on the right way around.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 20, 2018, 12:46:32 AM
I'm sticking to Occam's razor for everyone involved in this whole shitshow. Until you show me one smart thing that any of these cretins have done I'll be going with the idea of they are all unlikely to win a debate with a bag of shit.

Between this and his "truth isn't truth" bit, the lights may be on but the place had been burgled and occupants murdered long ago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
I question this legal strategy where you admit to doing illegal things, but then loudly assert it was not illegal.

It may fool the rubes, but it's going to collapse like a house of cards in any court.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
I question this legal strategy where you admit to doing illegal things, but then loudly assert it was not illegal.

It may fool the rubes, but it's going to collapse like a house of cards in any court.

I am giggling like a schoolgirl over the almost-immediate future.

This is LITERALLY "If the president does it, it can't be a crime."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2018, 11:45:04 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-unsettled-by-mcgahns-30-hours-with-the-special-counsel/ar-BBMbFg1?ocid=spartanntp

:lulz:

Rats & sinking ships.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:51:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
I question this legal strategy where you admit to doing illegal things, but then loudly assert it was not illegal.

It may fool the rubes, but it's going to collapse like a house of cards in any court.

I am giggling like a schoolgirl over the almost-immediate future.

This is LITERALLY "If the president does it, it can't be a crime."

Even better, it's "if the President did it before he was President, it can't be a crime".  Even Nixon wasn't this audacious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2018, 11:51:38 PM
OH HAI!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-dems-call-for-records-on-boltons-ties-to-alleged-russian-agent/ar-BBMbEIi?ocid=spartanntp

Where the hell is GIGGLES, now that we finally need him?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 21, 2018, 11:04:17 PM
Cohen plead guilty to 8 criminal charges within minutes of Manafort being found guilty of 8 criminal charges.

Cohen also directly implicated Trump in his statement.

Trump is currently at a rally in West Virginia or something, and so not on his phone  :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 21, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2018, 11:04:17 PM
Cohen plead guilty to 8 criminal charges within minutes of Manafort being found guilty of 8 criminal charges.

Cohen also directly implicated Trump in his statement.

Trump is currently at a rally in West Virginia or something, and so not on his phone  :sad:

The Twitter will be strong tonight.  :hosrie:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2018, 03:11:41 AM
Still nothing, what a coward  :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 03:25:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2018, 03:11:41 AM
Still nothing, what a coward  :sad:

Last I checked, he was ranting about ESPN in Virginia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2018, 03:59:10 AM
As of 2 hours ago, his last tweet was thanking the West Virginia crowd.  I guess someone confiscated the phone for tonight
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 04:10:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2018, 03:59:10 AM
As of 2 hours ago, his last tweet was thanking the West Virginia crowd.  I guess someone confiscated the phone for tonight

Or he's just that fucking oblivious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2018, 01:48:52 PM
We're now reaching 22 hours since Trump last tweeted anything that wasn't strictly campaign or rally PR fodder.   This may be unprecedented.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2018, 01:50:49 PM
Wait, it's starting https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032247043992023040
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 22, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2018, 01:50:49 PM
Wait, it's starting https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032247043992023040

Surprising that his only mention of it so far is a lame attempt at a joke.

I'd like to believe this is the beginning of the end, but I've thought that about 30 times throughout this presidency.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
He's doing damage control via Fox and Friends.  He didn't know about it when it first happened, campaign funds weren't used, and besides OBAMA.

So, the usual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 22, 2018, 07:18:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
So, the usual.

That's what I expect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 22, 2018, 08:39:50 PM
New York state subpoenas Cohen in Trump Foundation probe

As per the article: "Anyone charged with a state crime could not be pardoned by the president."

Here's the link: https://apnews.com/72c5c19195f84abfaa42eaffe78d806a

I've been hoping New York State would soon get in on the act.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on August 22, 2018, 08:39:50 PM
New York state subpoenas Cohen in Trump Foundation probe

As per the article: "Anyone charged with a state crime could not be pardoned by the president."

Here's the link: https://apnews.com/72c5c19195f84abfaa42eaffe78d806a

I've been hoping New York State would soon get in on the act.

muhahaha
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 10:04:08 PM
Dear Nancy Pelosi,

This is exactly why nobody likes your stupid ass.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeaching-trump-still-not-a-priority-for-democrats/ar-BBMifmq?ocid=spartanntp

Yours Truly,
G Gordon Liddy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 22, 2018, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: @realDonaldTrump
Michael Cohen plead guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations that are not a crime.
"A lawyer pleaded guilty, but there was no crime" sounds like it could be a koan.

But I guess Trump has his own definition of crime, that has little to do with law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 23, 2018, 02:54:05 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 10:04:08 PM
Dear Nancy Pelosi,

This is exactly why nobody likes your stupid ass.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeaching-trump-still-not-a-priority-for-democrats/ar-BBMifmq?ocid=spartanntp

Yours Truly,
G Gordon Liddy

As per that article:

'Pelosi has previously stated opposition to impeaching Trump. In May, she said she didn't believe impeachment was "a policy agenda" Democrats should capitalize on in the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections.'

It appears the Democrats are more worried about energizing the Republicans, than they are about energizing their own party's members, and the many Independent/Unaffiliated voters, such as myself.

I question the wisdom of their strategy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 03:58:36 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on August 23, 2018, 02:54:05 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 22, 2018, 10:04:08 PM
Dear Nancy Pelosi,

This is exactly why nobody likes your stupid ass.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeaching-trump-still-not-a-priority-for-democrats/ar-BBMifmq?ocid=spartanntp

Yours Truly,
G Gordon Liddy

As per that article:

'Pelosi has previously stated opposition to impeaching Trump. In May, she said she didn't believe impeachment was "a policy agenda" Democrats should capitalize on in the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections.'

It appears the Democrats are more worried about energizing the Republicans, than they are about energizing their own party's members, and the many Independent/Unaffiliated voters, such as myself.

I question the wisdom of their strategy.

I distrust anyone who doesn't lose their shit when lost shit is warranted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
She unilaterally ruled out impeachment proceedings for Bush as well, as I recall.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 23, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
She unilaterally ruled out impeachment proceedings for Bush as well, as I recall.

Yes, it was her first act as Speaker.

Then she couldn't figure out why nobody listened to her for 2 years and then promptly voted her out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 23, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
The Democratic Party leadership and high-ranking officials still think Trump is an anomaly. Particularly distasteful and unfortunate, but still just a blip. I'm not sure why that's as far as they're willing to go, given throngs of actual Nazis marching all over the country, but that's all it is to them. People like to bitch about how out of touch Republicans are, but Democrats are far worse. It's like they are incapable of conceiving of a situation where the republic might actually be threatened at an existential level, so they are incapable of recognizing it when it's here. As far as they know, it still is and will always be 1992, and all the same rules, from campaign strategies to social media (which, of course, wasn't a thing in 1992), will apply forever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP ROCKIN'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-hits-back-at-trump-doj-wont-be-improperly-influenced/ar-BBMlyue?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 09:57:09 PM
Whores gonna whore.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/key-republicans-give-trump-a-path-to-fire-sessions-after-the-election/ar-BBMlmze?ocid=spartanntp

Graham and Grassley living up to our very low expectations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 23, 2018, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP ROCKIN'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-hits-back-at-trump-doj-wont-be-improperly-influenced/ar-BBMlyue?ocid=spartanntp

Sessions squealing is fucking hysterical. It's going to be great to watch the cognitive dissonance over the next few months as people start convincing themselves that they've spoken up and tried to stop a whole heap of crazy shit. It's taken close to 2 years of public kickings for him to find his spine so who knows how crazy he might get with it now?


In other news, Rudy  releasing 3 papers "Crime is theft" , "Crime is Liberty" and "Crime is impossible" for the forthcoming Proudhon defence strategy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 23, 2018, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP ROCKIN'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-hits-back-at-trump-doj-wont-be-improperly-influenced/ar-BBMlyue?ocid=spartanntp

Sessions squealing is fucking hysterical. It's going to be great to watch the cognitive dissonance over the next few months as people start convincing themselves that they've spoken up and tried to stop a whole heap of crazy shit. It's taken close to 2 years of public kickings for him to find his spine so who knows how crazy he might get with it now?


In other news, Rudy  releasing 3 papers "Crime is theft" , "Crime is Liberty" and "Crime is impossible" for the forthcoming Proudhon defence strategy.


If I were Trump, I would never sleep again.  Muppets are after him.  Angry little muppets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 23, 2018, 11:01:28 PM
Angry muppets and clockwork elves.

I'm just waiting for the punchline, really.

I'm guessing an end similar to Oswald at the hands of someone he dicked over in the 80's. Because if this goes far enough, everyone will just look very silly indeed and that shall not be tolerated. A quick messy end with a bunch of "Ah, we'll never really know now" sounds like the tidiest outcome that would suit most interests.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 24, 2018, 12:36:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 23, 2018, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP ROCKIN'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-hits-back-at-trump-doj-wont-be-improperly-influenced/ar-BBMlyue?ocid=spartanntp

Sessions squealing is fucking hysterical. It's going to be great to watch the cognitive dissonance over the next few months as people start convincing themselves that they've spoken up and tried to stop a whole heap of crazy shit. It's taken close to 2 years of public kickings for him to find his spine so who knows how crazy he might get with it now?


In other news, Rudy  releasing 3 papers "Crime is theft" , "Crime is Liberty" and "Crime is impossible" for the forthcoming Proudhon defence strategy.


If I were Trump, I would never sleep again.  Muppets are after him.  Angry little muppets.

Jr and Eric are chasing him too?!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 24, 2018, 12:42:27 AM
Incidentally, you want someone to blame for Trump going paranoid over the "deep state"?  Try Israeli black ops and intelligence firm, Black Cube

https://twitter.com/ColinKahl/status/1032758896367042560

"A memo circulating in the Trump NSC in early 2017 alleging a vast conspiracy of former Obama officials may be linked to efforts by the Israeli firm Black Cube to target me, @brhodes, & our families"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 24, 2018, 07:09:33 AM
I always assumed the deep state was just the latest version of illuminati/freemasons/reptiles/aliens-run-the government
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 24, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 24, 2018, 07:09:33 AM
I always assumed the deep state was just the latest version of illuminati/freemasons/reptiles/aliens-run-the government

It always just sounded like "Checks + Balances = Fascism" to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on August 24, 2018, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2018, 12:42:27 AM
Incidentally, you want someone to blame for Trump going paranoid over the "deep state"?  Try Israeli black ops and intelligence firm, Black Cube

https://twitter.com/ColinKahl/status/1032758896367042560

"A memo circulating in the Trump NSC in early 2017 alleging a vast conspiracy of former Obama officials may be linked to efforts by the Israeli firm Black Cube to target me, @brhodes, & our families"

He wont have completed his mosaic of terrible human qualities until he gives a speech highlighting the dangers of "The Jewish Conspiracy"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 24, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
Bring it on, buttercups.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/giuliani-revolt-trump-impeached_us_5b7fd303e4b0cd327dfbb06a
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 24, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
And then this chilling-ass shit happened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-sources-go-quiet-leaving-cia-in-the-dark-about-putin's-plans-for-midterms/ar-BBMokKq?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 25, 2018, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on August 24, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 24, 2018, 07:09:33 AM
I always assumed the deep state was just the latest version of illuminati/freemasons/reptiles/aliens-run-the government

It always just sounded like "Checks + Balances = Fascism" to me.

I don;t think there's that much deliberately manipulative thought put into it. I think it's more a tinfoil hat thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 27, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
I question this legal strategy where you admit to doing illegal things, but then loudly assert it was not illegal.

It may fool the rubes, but it's going to collapse like a house of cards in any court.

Isn't the most recent SCOTUS pick known for claiming the president can't be charged with a crime?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 27, 2018, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on August 27, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
I question this legal strategy where you admit to doing illegal things, but then loudly assert it was not illegal.

It may fool the rubes, but it's going to collapse like a house of cards in any court.

Isn't the most recent SCOTUS pick known for claiming the president can't be charged with a crime?

He is.  But there's nothing to say a President can be charged once he steps down from office.

And to be honest, I find that reading of the law pretty questionable.  The argument is that such immunity is implicit in the Constitution....ie; it's not actually written anywhere.  If the Constitutional framers had wanted such an immunity to exist, they would have said it explicitly, I am sure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/'hellooo-hellooo'-an-awkward-phone-call-becomes-part-of-the-trump-spectacle/ar-BBMwQa4?ocid=spartanntp

IS THIS THING WORKING?  *tap tap*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
And then this happened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-economic-adviser-we're-taking-a-look-at-whether-google-searches-should-be-regulated/ar-BBMxVAd?ocid=spartanntp

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 28, 2018, 07:31:02 PM
It's like they have a brainstorming session about how they can be bigger cartoon villains than the day before.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2018, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 06:36:44 PM
And then this happened.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-economic-adviser-we're-taking-a-look-at-whether-google-searches-should-be-regulated/ar-BBMxVAd?ocid=spartanntp

Go Go GadgetFreeMarket!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 08:28:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on August 28, 2018, 07:31:02 PM
It's like they have a brainstorming session about how they can be bigger cartoon villains than the day before.

:lulz:

"Tomorrow, let's burn the library of congress."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 09:34:46 PM
THAT'S A NICE INTERNET THERE.  IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING WERE TO...HAPPEN TO IT...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-warns-google-facebook-twitter-to-be-careful/ar-BBMzwn4?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 28, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
So lemme get this straight.... social media groups begin blocking foreign influenced accounts and then conservative users begin noticing a lack of conservative media on their preferred platforms [emoji848]

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 11:53:14 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on August 28, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
So lemme get this straight.... social media groups begin blocking foreign influenced accounts and then conservative users begin noticing a lack of conservative media on their preferred platforms [emoji848]

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO YOUR TAPATALK.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 28, 2018, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2018, 11:53:14 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on August 28, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
So lemme get this straight.... social media groups begin blocking foreign influenced accounts and then conservative users begin noticing a lack of conservative media on their preferred platforms [emoji848]

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

WOULD BE A SHAME IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO YOUR TAPATALK.
I keep taking that signature out and they keep putting it back in!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 29, 2018, 02:51:46 AM
Remember, in 2017 they were also looking at options for amending the First Amendment.  We never heard anything more on that, but it was mentioned in passing by Trump admin officials and reported by several outlets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 29, 2018, 04:54:35 AM
Luckily they seem to have bigger fish to fry:

https://www.axios.com/2018-midterm-elections-republicans-preparation-investigations-180abf7b-0de8-4670-ae8a-2e6da123c584.html

QuoteCongressional Republicans are getting ready for hell. Axios has obtained a spreadsheet that's circulated through Republican circles on and off Capitol Hill — including at least one leadership office — that meticulously previews the investigations Democrats will likely launch if they flip the House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 30, 2018, 11:26:54 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-google-facebook-amazon-may-be-'antitrust-situation'/ar-BBMFvze?ocid=spartanntp

Somehow, I don't think Trump is listening to actual lawyers.


Also, apparently he attempted to fire Sessions and Mueller last week, and wasn't obeyed by McGahn and others.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
Ducey's gonna cave and give Trump whomever he wants as a replacement senator for McCain.  :tgrr:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
It's John Kyl.

He's an ass nugget, but it definitely could have been worse.  Like Arpeao or Ward.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Tangentially-related and funny as hell:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rubio-hallway-confrontation-with-alex-jones-dont-touch-me-again-man/ar-BBMUZsA?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woodward-book-prompts-west-wing-witch-hunt-sources-say/ar-BBMV6zH?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 06, 2018, 12:22:17 AM
It's all unravelling at an impressive pace.

After yesterday's shitshow, courtesy of Woodward's new book, the NYT published this op-ed (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html) by an anonymous senior White House official, who essentially said "Trump is an amoral liar and impulsive idiot, but we are preventing him from destroying the world.  Please clap."  As pointed out by anyone with half a brain (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/), this now has Trump even more paranoid.

Just a short time ago, he tweeted simply this:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1037464177269514240
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 06, 2018, 03:00:50 AM
I found some of the anecdotes from Woodward's book difficult to digest.

But every time I start to doubt what I read about Trump, to question the uncorroborated claims, to wonder about the credibility of anonymous sources, I go and read his twitter page.

It helps me remember that no matter how ridiculous the charges laid against him, no matter how much my brain insists that what people say about him can't possibly be real, he is shown by his own words to be an idiot.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 06, 2018, 03:07:30 AM
The thing is, some of this stuff also sounds like it tallies up with what was in Fire and Fury.  I'm waiting to get a copy before I do a more in-depth read, but I wouldn't be surprised if a good 70%+ of that book, crazy as it was, is verifiably true.

Also Trump is now demanding that the NYT "hand over" the source of the op-ed, as a "national security issue".  I have not yet seen if the NYT legal Twitter account has tweeted back "lol no" yet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2018, 09:13:40 PM
woop.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tells-supporters-itll-be-your-fault-if-he-gets-impeached/ar-BBMYG0D?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 07, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
He's filling his diapers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on September 07, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
That's not filling his diapers. It's campaigning for the midterms with impeachment as a wedge issue. Democrats should be doing it too.  "If Trump doesn't get impeached it's because you stayed home on election day!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 07, 2018, 11:05:34 PM
Dude. It can be both.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2018, 01:11:01 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 07, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
That's not filling his diapers. It's campaigning for the midterms with impeachment as a wedge issue. Democrats should be doing it too.  "If Trump doesn't get impeached it's because you stayed home on election day!"

Nothing personal, but I don't take political advice from my opponents.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 08, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2018, 09:13:40 PM
woop.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tells-supporters-itll-be-your-fault-if-he-gets-impeached/ar-BBMYG0D?ocid=spartanntp

It's true in a roundabout way. If they hadn't voted a crook into office there wouldn;t be all this talk of removing him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 10, 2018, 07:47:20 PM
And then there's the Putin garbage disposal service.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/professor-who-acted-as-a-link-between-donald-trumps-presidential-campaign-and-the-kremlin-is-missing-and-may-be-dead-court-documents-reveal/ar-BBN3Ks6?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
His "advisers" say he's still alive.  But he hasn't been seen publically for months now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 11, 2018, 07:05:01 AM
Hey Cain, Reaction to bolton and the ICC? Distraction tactics coupled with long standing lunacy? I assume most shit like this now is to take away from the scandal of the day for Idiot. I'm betting at least a few groups draw straws daily to see whose turn it is in the barrel.

Also, Woodward book worth bothering with? I assume anything particularly tasty will make it into general consumption but the broader context is occasionally nice, though in this case hardly needed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 11, 2018, 11:42:37 AM
Bolton has this weird conception of sovereignty that he shares with the likes of UKIP, where basically dealing with any international body means a reduction in said sovereignty.  Of course, the US political leadership at large is opposed to the ICC, and claims it is unecessary besides, as the US has its own robust mechanisms for dealing with war crimes committed by its own troops (as evidenced by the precisely zero war crimes convictions since Abu Ghraib).

It doesn't really matter in the long run, but it does show where Bolton's hilariously out of touch priorities lie.

As for Woodward's book...it's released today, so I suppose we will have to see.  I'm interested in how it tallies up with events in the less reliable Fire And Fury
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
BOOM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-pleads-guilty-in-mueller-probe-will-cooperate-with-prosecutors/ar-BBNk9L7?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 14, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
So when does it all come tumbling down? Feels like I've been waiting for decades.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 14, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
BOOM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-pleads-guilty-in-mueller-probe-will-cooperate-with-prosecutors/ar-BBNk9L7?ocid=spartanntp

Sticking point appears to have been protection for his family.  So at least he gives a shit about his daughters, if not his wife.

I can't imagine why Manafort's family would need protection though...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 14, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
BOOM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-pleads-guilty-in-mueller-probe-will-cooperate-with-prosecutors/ar-BBNk9L7?ocid=spartanntp

Sticking point appears to have been protection for his family.  So at least he gives a shit about his daughters, if not his wife.

I can't imagine why Manafort's family would need protection though...

There's that polonium flu that's going around.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on September 14, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
So when does it all come tumbling down? Feels like I've been waiting for decades.

Watergate took 2.5 years.


I am feeling patient, because I am seeing results.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 14, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:50:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 14, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
BOOM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-pleads-guilty-in-mueller-probe-will-cooperate-with-prosecutors/ar-BBNk9L7?ocid=spartanntp

Sticking point appears to have been protection for his family.  So at least he gives a shit about his daughters, if not his wife.

I can't imagine why Manafort's family would need protection though...

There's that polonium flu that's going around.

A nice novichuk sandwich.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on September 14, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
So when does it all come tumbling down? Feels like I've been waiting for decades.

Watergate took 2.5 years.


I am feeling patient, because I am seeing results.

Also, remember, I started talking about this here and on FB a lot sooner than most.  So for us it has been even longer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on September 14, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
BOOM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manafort-pleads-guilty-in-mueller-probe-will-cooperate-with-prosecutors/ar-BBNk9L7?ocid=spartanntp

from the article

Outside court, Manafort attorney Kevin Downing said it was a "tough day" for his client, "but he's accepted responsibility, and he wanted to make sure that his family was able to remain safe and live a good life."

I feel like he has put his family in danger.  Since testifying against organized crime tends to get your family killed.  Admittedly Trump is pretty disorganized. Putin seems quite ready to clean up loose ends though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 18, 2018, 12:02:50 AM
I would assume that the main thing keeping Manafort's family from waking up at the bottom of a lake somewhere is that the damage is more or less already done. Manafort is cooperating, but he's already given them a confession and who knows how many statements about how many things, and killing them off now would just be too obvious (even if the Russians haven't been exactly subtle in the past). But I don't know anything really.

As for why Mueller is taking so long, beyond being incredibly meticulous and digging up 3 or 4 corroborating stories for every single point, he has to work around deeply entrenched interests that have an existential interest in his being very careful not to accidentally implicate the entire GOP as the complete fraudulent Russian front that it has become. I'd like to believe he is working on doing that very thing, but I kind of doubt he wants to be that dead. Plus as much as I wish the Republicans would just go away forever, I'm not sure the republic could actually survive such a thing. Also, if Mueller went after Trump right now, even though he probably has more than enough evidence for any kind of sane court to do so, I'm pretty sure he'd immediately get dismissed as some kind of quack, seeing as how Congress is under the absolute control of most corrupt party in our history. The court he has to convince is not sane in the slightest, and is not subject to the usual rules of logic and evidence. He's probably hoping for the Democrats to take control of the House before he makes any big moves, because then he'd have at least a chance of a relatively fair hearing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 18, 2018, 01:59:15 PM
Not particularly politically importabt, but funny:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-penis-looks-like-toad-from-mario-kart-says-stormy-daniels
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 19, 2018, 04:06:22 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 18, 2018, 01:59:15 PM
Not particularly politically importabt, but funny:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-penis-looks-like-toad-from-mario-kart-says-stormy-daniels

Dammit i came here to post that :argh!:

( https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/trump-toad-penis-stormy-daniels-response-likely-forthcoming.html )

Quote

    "He knows he has an unusual penis," Daniels writes. "It has a huge mushroom head. Like a toadstool...

    "I lay there, annoyed that I was getting fucked by a guy with Yeti pubes and a dick like the mushroom character in Mario Kart...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 19, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
She forgot to mention the yeti pubes are yellow.

The Generalissimo told me so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 19, 2018, 05:18:44 PM
Dementia intensifies

(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42058569_10215554503643392_3741390275478552576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8a5e3d9e80ead48fa114ae9e94bc4f9b&oe=5C20A4CD)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 19, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
Also Putin is feeding Trump "deep state" bullshit

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DneJmJiWsAE7g8f.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has either been fired or quit, reports are not clear yet.

Either way, it's going to be a bumpy Monday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Nunes previously said that Rosenstein wouldn't be fired before the Kavanaugh hearings, as the media shitstorm over his firing would make it that much harder to get him confirmed.

However, I'm thinking that with the allegations against Kavanaugh that have come out - including Avenatti's new client and the Jane Mayer/Ronan Farrow article (which the White House was aware of before publishing) - Kavanaugh is seen as tainted goods, and since his confirmation is in doubt, better to get rid of Rosenstein now and quash the Russia investigation by putting someone else in charge of it.  If you can't stack the Supreme Court in your favour, kill the investigation instead.  The exchange - one extremely tainted candidate for one "rogue" Deputy AG - probably looks good to Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2018, 06:36:51 PM
....Or not.  Now it seems to be swirling around that Rosenstein isn't being fired or quitting at all.  Get your act together, media.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on September 24, 2018, 07:45:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2018, 06:36:51 PM
....Or not.  Now it seems to be swirling around that Rosenstein isn't being fired or quitting at all.  Get your act together, media.

I second the motion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2018, 06:06:46 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2018, 06:36:51 PM
....Or not.  Now it seems to be swirling around that Rosenstein isn't being fired or quitting at all.  Get your act together, media.

Apparently, he really wants to quit but can't bring himself to give the pigfucker the satisfaction.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2018, 03:25:15 PM
There's something fishy going on here.  Someone in the WH is clearly leaking the anti-Rosenstein stuff to the NYT, which is happy to play stenographer in this case.  But the attempts to paint Rosenstein as a milksop run counter to every previous profile of him.

Throw in that previous anonymous op-ed, the infamous "adults in the room holding Trump back" one, and I'm wondering if someone is deliberately trying to goad Trump into doing something batshit crazy before the mid-terms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 25, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
Pence looking for a chuckle.*


*I use the word chuckle but the sound probably more closely reflects the sound of a mummies tomb being opened.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 25, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
I've been looking at it as a way to distract from the Kavanaugh thing.  Especially if it's a literal leak of a sarcastic comment.  It kind of worked, too.  Did everyone hear there's a potential fourth accuser, as well as his ex-roommate asserting he believes the accuser because of how Kavanaugh behaved when drunk?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 25, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
I've been looking at it as a way to distract from the Kavanaugh thing.  Especially if it's a literal leak of a sarcastic comment.  It kind of worked, too.  Did everyone hear there's a potential fourth accuser, as well as his ex-roommate asserting he believes the accuser because of how Kavanaugh behaved when drunk?

Could be.  But if so, it's not coming directly from Trump, since he keeps dragging attention back to it by attacking Kavanaugh's accusers on Twitter (when he's not getting laughed at by the entire UN, that is).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trumps-worldview-was-laid-bare-at-the-un-and-it-should-worry-anyone-who-understands-history/ar-AAADNNY?ocid=spartanntp

There are no words.

We have to invent appropriate words.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2018, 12:58:06 AM
I think the UNGA said it best

Quote from: The United Nations General AssemblyHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 26, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
"We reject the ideology of globalism. And we embrace the doctrine of patriotism."


What the shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 26, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
It's some kind of National Socialist policy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
Sovereign nations all doing their own thing and respecting the sovereignty of others worked really well.  Just look at the outcome of the Peace of Westphalia

*gestures to the smoking rubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years%27_War) that was Europe*

See? Nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 26, 2018, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 26, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
"We reject the ideology of globalism. And we embrace the doctrine of patriotism."


What the shit.

"Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
If you thought the UN speech was bad, you should check out the dumpster fire of a press conference that's going on currently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 26, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: he just delivered a 5-min long explanation that everybody was actually laughing with him
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2018, 11:24:36 PM
Xi Jiping is his friend, or maybe not anymore.  He ranted about the "failing New York Times" to a PBS journalist.  He talked about how Obama was going to go to war with North Korea.  He still hasn't decided on a one-state or two-state solution for Palestine.  He said the people accusing Kavanaugh of rape and sexual assault were only doing it for the fame and money.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 27, 2018, 12:13:10 AM
I'd been waiting for an outburst on twitter regarding the "unbreakable" Manafort's plea deal, and was disappointed that I could only find some vague bluster about the rigged witch hunt.  I was looking forward to an exhibition of cognitive dissonance.

Quote from: Cramulus on September 26, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
:lulz: :lulz: he just delivered a 5-min long explanation that everybody was actually laughing with him

That'll do.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2018, 01:00:12 AM
The Qanon people are good for the cognitive dissonance.  They still haven't quite figured out how to explain why, if the Mueller probe is secretly exposing the global Satanic pedophile network hidden in the Deep State working against Trump, that both Cohen and Manafort are now cooperating with the Mueller inquiry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2018, 01:48:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 26, 2018, 11:01:08 PM
:lulz: :lulz: he just delivered a 5-min long explanation that everybody was actually laughing with him

What a time to be alive.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 27, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
Could have sent a Monkey riding a tiny bicycle, clapping cymbals onto the stage and it would have had more dignity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on September 27, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Trump exploded when he learned presidential transition would cost millions: 'F*ck the law — I want my money!'

As per the article:

"A new article by journalist Michael Lewis claims that Donald Trump in 2016 went on a furious tirade when he learned that his campaign was required by law to fund a presidential transition team.

Writing in the Guardian, Lewis explains that former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie explained to the future president in April 2016 that he would need to either pay to hire a transition team himself or would have to use campaign funds to pay for it.

Trump grudgingly agreed to let Christie set up a separate fund aimed solely at raising money for the transition.

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/trump-exploded-learned-presidential-transition-cost-millions-fck-law-want-money/

No real surprise here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2018, 05:10:36 PM
Ford hearings going on.  Grassley is doing some of the finest mush-mouthing of his career, ever.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2018, 06:20:50 PM
It seems to me that making a woman re-live the trauma of an attempted rape, in a confrontation live hearing a few weeks before the elections, when the Republicans are struggling with the vote, may not in fact be the smartest political move they ever made.  To say nothing of the moral nature of what they are doing...

Even FOX is saying her testimony is credible and powerful.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 27, 2018, 09:02:13 PM
Not to mention that Kavenaugh sounds like the biggest douche in the world.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2018, 09:05:35 PM
Anyone see him lose his shit?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2018, 10:41:51 PM
I heard he was alternating between almost crying and shaking with rage, but I've not seen any clips yet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2018, 10:47:46 PM
This is definitely the face of a man who has a suitable temperment for judicial work

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIEWEfW0AI5II2.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2018, 10:50:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoH7zgFXgAAuMPl.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on September 27, 2018, 11:39:18 PM
Jim Carrey Mocks 'Entitled Little S**t' Brett Kavanaugh In New Artwork

As per the article:

"Jim Carrey has aimed his latest piece of art at Judge Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee who has been accused of sexual assault.

The actor/artist and star of the new series "Kidding" suggested that Kavanaugh add a ski mask to his judge's robes. Along with savaging Kavanaugh, Carrey also called out universities for not taking action to protect rape victims:

Colleges care more about donors than the victims of on-campus rape. That's why women don't report it and why ENTITLED LITTLE SHITS like Injustice Kavanaugh get to party and pillage their way to the Supreme Court.I'd like to suggest a new uniform for the highest court in the land. pic.twitter.com/9piWob4jGh

— Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey) September 24, 2018"

Here's the link: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jim-carrey-brett-kavanaugh_us_5ba9ba00e4b0375f8f9feda1

As far as Jim Carrey the comedian goes, I can take him, or leave him. But, in the case of Kavanaugh, Carrey is absolutely spot on.

I caught part of Kavanaugh's testimony this afternoon, and I have to say that I've never seen anything like it from a person seeking a high government office.

I came away convinced that that ENTITLED LITTLE SHIT really thinks the world owes him a Supreme Court seat!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 28, 2018, 02:15:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lNJ0Ky5.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on September 28, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
Anyone want to offer odds on Kavanaugh being confirmed?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 28, 2018, 08:56:55 AM
You know, everyone's so focused on Kavanaugh being a lech they've lost sight of the fact that he's also a drunk.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 28, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 28, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
Anyone want to offer odds on Kavanaugh being confirmed?

Pretty good, I think. I'm already coming up with nicknames for him.

I'm currently leaning heavily in favor of "Chief Justice Cryvanaugh".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 28, 2018, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 28, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
Anyone want to offer odds on Kavanaugh being confirmed?

Three-to-one in favour of confirmation.  One seldom loses money betting on humanity choosing the worse option.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 28, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Seems a solid bet.  I would like to see him not be confirmed, not only for the obvious reasons but because I believe he will throw a legendary public hissy fit if that happened, and that would be hilarious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 28, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
What would give McConnell a stroke? 

That's my guiding principle from here on out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on September 28, 2018, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 28, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
What would give McConnell a stroke? 

That's my guiding principle from here on out.

Viagra.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 28, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
To have a stroke would imply McConnell has a heart.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on September 28, 2018, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 28, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
To have a stroke would imply McConnell has a heart.

Or a brain, really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 28, 2018, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 28, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
Anyone want to offer odds on Kavanaugh being confirmed?

I am thinking 5:4 FOR
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 28, 2018, 06:06:51 PM
You're really giving that good odds that he WON'T be confirmed?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 29, 2018, 01:21:49 AM
Quote from: LMNO on September 28, 2018, 06:06:51 PM
You're really giving that good odds that he WON'T be confirmed?

Watching the news today, I feel vindicated.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on September 29, 2018, 02:13:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 29, 2018, 01:21:49 AM
Quote from: LMNO on September 28, 2018, 06:06:51 PM
You're really giving that good odds that he WON'T be confirmed?

Watching the news today, I feel vindicated.

Fair enough, but I still feel like Arizona is going to fuck us all six ways from sideways, unless Flake magically grows a spine made out of calcium and not rubber in his last few months as a senator.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
So you're telling me that the confirmation didn't go ahead because of a Senator called Flake?  And now the FBI has hunt down some witness called Judge to decide if the dude can sit on the Supreme Court or not?

I want the writer responsible for this travesty fired.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 29, 2018, 04:31:18 AM
Sometimes, what is real can seem stranger than a Kafkaesque fever nightmare.

EDIT: I mean, c'mon, where's your paranoid cynacism? Should've known from the beginning that justice is a joke and things will only play out in accordance with the will of the powers that be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 29, 2018, 07:15:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
So you're telling me that the confirmation didn't go ahead because of a Senator called Flake?  And now the FBI has hunt down some witness called Judge to decide if the dude can sit on the Supreme Court or not?

I want the writer responsible for this travesty fired.

Fuck, I knew we were jumping the shark with all that.

Joke's over.  We really just decided to let Obama have another turn.  This has all been a very long episode of the Upright Citizen's Brigade.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 29, 2018, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
So you're telling me that the confirmation didn't go ahead because of a Senator called Flake?  And now the FBI has hunt down some witness called Judge to decide if the dude can sit on the Supreme Court or not?

I want the writer responsible for this travesty fired.

Almost as bad as that time they had a main character named "Ronald Reagan" who had a sidekick named "Donald Regan" for, like, two whole seasons. Besides that, the writing was mostly just AIDS jokes, and Reagan repeating his catchphrase "I don't recall" over and over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:54:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 29, 2018, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
So you're telling me that the confirmation didn't go ahead because of a Senator called Flake?  And now the FBI has hunt down some witness called Judge to decide if the dude can sit on the Supreme Court or not?

I want the writer responsible for this travesty fired.

Almost as bad as that time they had a main character named "Ronald Reagan" who had a sidekick named "Donald Regan" for, like, two whole seasons. Besides that, the writing was mostly just AIDS jokes, and Reagan repeating his catchphrase "I don't recall" over and over.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 29, 2018, 07:15:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
So you're telling me that the confirmation didn't go ahead because of a Senator called Flake?  And now the FBI has hunt down some witness called Judge to decide if the dude can sit on the Supreme Court or not?

I want the writer responsible for this travesty fired.

Fuck, I knew we were jumping the shark with all that.

Joke's over.  We really just decided to let Obama have another turn.  This has all been a very long episode of the Upright Citizen's Brigade.

Pretentious Movie Director would have never allowed this to happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on September 29, 2018, 04:21:05 PM
This isn't alarming at all.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/gamble-v-united-states/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 29, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
Oh yeah, this is part of the whole thing.  That and whether Mueller recommends charges against senior members of the Trump team during the course of his investigation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on September 29, 2018, 04:29:31 PM
What tickles me is that in theory, the American Right Wing should be shitting itself in the idea that states rights are getting nipped at because they always harp and howl that federalismz is the best thing ever. And here we are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 29, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.

Or when you want to send 3 electors and 2 senators to represent an area (such as wyoming or montana) that doesn't even have enough people to fill single respectably sized city
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2018, 06:20:58 PM
And then this happened

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-probe-of-kavanaugh-will-have-limits-set-by-white-house/ar-BBNGZnV?ocid=spartanntp

Which was immediately doublespeaked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-says-not-micromanaging-fbi-probe-of-kavanaugh/ar-BBNJDOR?ocid=spartanntp

If Sanders says that it's not being micromanaged, that means they picked the 3 laziest men in the FBI and told them to take loads of coffee breaks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
Everyone knows what side I'm on, but Avanetti is a bit of an ambulance-chasing bottom feeder.

There.  I said it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 01, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
You're not wrong.  He clearly thinks he can build a political career out of this.

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 29, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.

Or when you want to send 3 electors and 2 senators to represent an area (such as wyoming or montana) that doesn't even have enough people to fill single respectably sized city

Or net neutrality https://www.wired.com/story/california-governor-signs-nations-toughest-net-neutrality-law/?mbid=social_twitter
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
You're not wrong.  He clearly thinks he can build a political career out of this.

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 29, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.

Or when you want to send 3 electors and 2 senators to represent an area (such as wyoming or montana) that doesn't even have enough people to fill single respectably sized city

Or net neutrality https://www.wired.com/story/california-governor-signs-nations-toughest-net-neutrality-law/?mbid=social_twitter


The federal government just launched a lawsuit over that.  Comcast and Verizon must have yanked their leashes pretty hard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 02, 2018, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
You're not wrong.  He clearly thinks he can build a political career out of this.

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 29, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.

Or when you want to send 3 electors and 2 senators to represent an area (such as wyoming or montana) that doesn't even have enough people to fill single respectably sized city

Or net neutrality https://www.wired.com/story/california-governor-signs-nations-toughest-net-neutrality-law/?mbid=social_twitter


The federal government just launched a lawsuit over that.  Comcast and Verizon must have yanked their leashes pretty hard.

Thst's partly due to the thing I said. If representation were proportional the federal government wouldn't pull shit like this as often
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 02, 2018, 04:49:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
You're not wrong.  He clearly thinks he can build a political career out of this.

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 29, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 29, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
State rights only apply when you want to ban abortion or deny black people civil rights.

Or when you want to send 3 electors and 2 senators to represent an area (such as wyoming or montana) that doesn't even have enough people to fill single respectably sized city

Or net neutrality https://www.wired.com/story/california-governor-signs-nations-toughest-net-neutrality-law/?mbid=social_twitter


The federal government just launched a lawsuit over that.  Comcast and Verizon must have yanked their leashes pretty hard.

Thst's partly due to the thing I said. If representation were proportional the federal government wouldn't pull shit like this as often

You're high on dogshit.  Corruption is independent of representation, because there is Team Edward and Team Wossname, as far as voters go.   And they don't give a FUCK about corruption or anything else as long as they can dig their thumb in the other team's eye.  There is no Goddamn miracle cure.  There is no cure at all. There is only Crazy Eddie, and at the moment, that's YOU.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
The first sign of becoming a fuck up is when you suddenly decide that YOU have figured out the age-old problems of governance.  You have Uncle Joe's Rest Cure, Leon "anything for a laugh" Trotsky's beat them into happiness method, and our very own Ron Paul (the former member of PD, not the screwhead from Kentucky) and his ECO FASCISM.  You have those dipshits with their "dark cathedral", which is apparently Hitler with added emo, and you have Captain Utopia and his dumb fucking "E-democracy". JUST LOOK HOW WELL ALL OF THOSE HAVE WORKED OUT...Because the FORM of government has absolutely NO IMPACT on the EFFECT of government.

It has taken my 50 years, but I finally understand my Cornish ancestor's habit of killing anyone who tries anything they THINK is new.

ODDS ARE YOU AREN'T THE NEXT PLATO.  EVERYBODY SHUT UP.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 02, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
The first sign of becoming a fuck up is when you suddenly decide that YOU have figured out the age-old problems of governance.  You have Uncle Joe's Rest Cure, Leon "anything for a laugh" Trotsky's beat them into happiness method, and our very own Ron Paul (the former member of PD, not the screwhead from Kentucky) and his ECO FASCISM.  You have those dipshits with their "dark cathedral", which is apparently Hitler with added emo, and you have Captain Utopia and his dumb fucking "E-democracy". JUST LOOK HOW WELL ALL OF THOSE HAVE WORKED OUT...Because the FORM of government has absolutely NO IMPACT on the EFFECT of government.

It has taken my 50 years, but I finally understand my Cornish ancestor's habit of killing anyone who tries anything they THINK is new.

ODDS ARE YOU AREN'T THE NEXT PLATO.  EVERYBODY SHUT UP.

I've got a great idea for a new form of government. I call it "Definitely not Plutocracy".

It's basically Plutocracy, but we pretend it isn't.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 02, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
The first sign of becoming a fuck up is when you suddenly decide that YOU have figured out the age-old problems of governance.  You have Uncle Joe's Rest Cure, Leon "anything for a laugh" Trotsky's beat them into happiness method, and our very own Ron Paul (the former member of PD, not the screwhead from Kentucky) and his ECO FASCISM.  You have those dipshits with their "dark cathedral", which is apparently Hitler with added emo, and you have Captain Utopia and his dumb fucking "E-democracy". JUST LOOK HOW WELL ALL OF THOSE HAVE WORKED OUT...Because the FORM of government has absolutely NO IMPACT on the EFFECT of government.

It has taken my 50 years, but I finally understand my Cornish ancestor's habit of killing anyone who tries anything they THINK is new.

ODDS ARE YOU AREN'T THE NEXT PLATO.  EVERYBODY SHUT UP.

I've got a great idea for a new form of government. I call it "Definitely not Plutocracy".

It's basically Plutocracy, but we pretend it isn't.


We could also call that EVERY GOVERNMENT EVER.  :lulz:


In other news, Kavenaugh is going under the bus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 07:39:54 PM
Also, Graham's tongue seems to be permanently stuck in Trump's arse.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senator-trump-should-renominate-kavanaugh-if-he-loses/ar-BBNPpw6?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 08:25:40 PM
Life is tough on the white man.  :cry:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kavanaugh-saga-shows-'very-scary'-dynamic-for-men-trump-says/ar-BBNQMLp?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
Trump is relaxing radiation regulations (https://apnews.com/6a573b6b020e453c90ecd5e84aa23f57?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow), stating that a little radiation "may be good for you".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 02, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
Trump is relaxing radiation regulations (https://apnews.com/6a573b6b020e453c90ecd5e84aa23f57?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow), stating that a little radiation "may be good for you".

It's like he actively hunts for ways to do damage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 09:45:35 PM
DERP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-trump's-ambassador-to-nato-threaten-russia-with-preemptive-strikes/ar-BBNQRWR?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 02, 2018, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
The first sign of becoming a fuck up is when you suddenly decide that YOU have figured out the age-old problems of governance.  You have Uncle Joe's Rest Cure, Leon "anything for a laugh" Trotsky's beat them into happiness method, and our very own Ron Paul (the former member of PD, not the screwhead from Kentucky) and his ECO FASCISM.  You have those dipshits with their "dark cathedral", which is apparently Hitler with added emo, and you have Captain Utopia and his dumb fucking "E-democracy". JUST LOOK HOW WELL ALL OF THOSE HAVE WORKED OUT...Because the FORM of government has absolutely NO IMPACT on the EFFECT of government.

Although some forms of government are better than others in the short-term, the issue is that in the long-term, people with wealth and power use that power to get more wealth and power.  They become increasingly separated from the rest of society, and after a few generations of power concentration, everything starts to resemble a hereditary dictatorship.  Even (especially?) systems which are specifically designed to avoid this (like communism) fall into the same pattern.

Fortunately, this all has a simple solution.  If we separate humanity into isolated enclaves of 150-200 individuals, this problem goes away.  Since everybody in each enclave knows everybody else (more or less), there is a natural limit on how much the system can be abused, and, regardless of the specific system of government adopted with each enclave, most of them will function quite efficiently (as anyone familiar with small town bureaucracy knows*).

As the population of each enclave grows, resources may become a problem, possibly leading to loss of isolation, and even conflicts with neighboring enclaves.  To address this, I propose a Balkanization Service (B.S.), which will maintain the separation between enclaves (by military means, if necessary), and, if the population of one gets too large, either split it into smaller groups, or cull less productive individuals to maintain the 200 person limit.

Preventing the abuse of power in the B.S. is a minor implementation detail, which can be easily solved by the world's scientists, once they have been forced to recognize the obvious brilliance of this idea.


* I tried, I really did, but I couldn't type that with a straight face.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 02, 2018, 11:35:31 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 02, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
I've got a great idea for a new form of government. I call it "Definitely not Plutocracy".

It's basically Plutocracy, but we pretend it isn't.

"I can't believe it's not Fascism!  Now, with 10% fewer atrocities!*"

*Figure includes officially counted atrocities only.  Law enforcement actions may be exempt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 02, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 02, 2018, 09:19:18 PM
Trump is relaxing radiation regulations (https://apnews.com/6a573b6b020e453c90ecd5e84aa23f57?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow), stating that a little radiation "may be good for you".

It's like he actively hunts for ways to do damage.

Well that kind of thing goes alongwith being a Russian spy, doesn't it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 03, 2018, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on October 02, 2018, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
The first sign of becoming a fuck up is when you suddenly decide that YOU have figured out the age-old problems of governance.  You have Uncle Joe's Rest Cure, Leon "anything for a laugh" Trotsky's beat them into happiness method, and our very own Ron Paul (the former member of PD, not the screwhead from Kentucky) and his ECO FASCISM.  You have those dipshits with their "dark cathedral", which is apparently Hitler with added emo, and you have Captain Utopia and his dumb fucking "E-democracy". JUST LOOK HOW WELL ALL OF THOSE HAVE WORKED OUT...Because the FORM of government has absolutely NO IMPACT on the EFFECT of government.

Although some forms of government are better than others in the short-term, the issue is that in the long-term, people with wealth and power use that power to get more wealth and power.  They become increasingly separated from the rest of society, and after a few generations of power concentration, everything starts to resemble a hereditary dictatorship.  Even (especially?) systems which are specifically designed to avoid this (like communism) fall into the same pattern.

Fortunately, this all has a simple solution.  If we separate humanity into isolated enclaves of 150-200 individuals, this problem goes away.  Since everybody in each enclave knows everybody else (more or less), there is a natural limit on how much the system can be abused, and, regardless of the specific system of government adopted with each enclave, most of them will function quite efficiently (as anyone familiar with small town bureaucracy knows*).

As the population of each enclave grows, resources may become a problem, possibly leading to loss of isolation, and even conflicts with neighboring enclaves.  To address this, I propose a Balkanization Service (B.S.), which will maintain the separation between enclaves (by military means, if necessary), and, if the population of one gets too large, either split it into smaller groups, or cull less productive individuals to maintain the 200 person limit.

Preventing the abuse of power in the B.S. is a minor implementation detail, which can be easily solved by the world's scientists, once they have been forced to recognize the obvious brilliance of this idea.


* I tried, I really did, but I couldn't type that with a straight face.

I love this post and I would let it sechs me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 03, 2018, 04:43:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2018, 09:45:35 PM
DERP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-trump's-ambassador-to-nato-threaten-russia-with-preemptive-strikes/ar-BBNQRWR?ocid=spartanntp

FWIW, she says something differently via her official Twitter account

https://twitter.com/USAmbNATO/status/1047203183964160001

QuoteI was not talking about preemptively striking Russia. My point: 🇷🇺 needs to return to INF Treaty compliance or we will need to match its capabilities to protect US & NATO interests. The current situation, with 🇷🇺 in blatant violation, is untenable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on October 03, 2018, 03:22:34 PM
RIP IRONY
POUR ONE OUT

https://hillreporter.com/perjury-complaint-against-brett-kavanaugh-to-be-heard-by-merrick-garland-7028
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 03, 2018, 03:24:38 PM
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

As per the article:

"The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today's dollars from his father's real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.

Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help.
But The Times's investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father's real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day."

Here's the link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

I find it telling that Trump refutes this article, but , to my knowledge, has not threatened to sue the NYT for libel.

I love New York!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 05:31:11 PM
Flake does what he always does, Collins throws her constituents under the bus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-sens-flake-and-collins-express-satisfaction-with-fbi-report-increasing-odds-of-senate-confirmation-of-kavanaugh/ar-BBNUZsy?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
I mean, they had a week, did it in 3 days, had a proscribed set of limits from the White House and didn't interview anyone about any sexual assault allegations.

Open and shut case boys.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 04, 2018, 07:27:08 PM
I bet the report basically says, "We could find no physical evidence that Ms Ford was attacked by Mr Kavenaugh."

Which, of course, is not even close to what needed to be investigated.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
I mean, they had a week, did it in 3 days, had a proscribed set of limits from the White House and didn't interview anyone about any sexual assault allegations.

Open and shut case boys.

And people will of course sit down and take it.

And less than 42% of eligible voters will show up in November.  Bet you.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 04, 2018, 07:27:08 PM
I bet the report basically says, "We could find no physical evidence that Ms Ford was attacked by Mr Kavenaugh."

Which, of course, is not even close to what needed to be investigated.


I bet the report says "If you senators question this shit, your finances will be closely inspected."


Also, has anyone heard anything from or about Mueller recently?  It's like he fell off of the Earth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 04, 2018, 08:14:07 PM
You feel the FBI are pro-Kavenaugh?  Or is it that the GOP got their hands on the report first?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 04, 2018, 08:14:07 PM
You feel the FBI are pro-Kavenaugh?  Or is it that the GOP got their hands on the report first?

I am thinking the FBI has more factions than my company, and a few senators (McConnell, Hatch) are smart enough to learn who those factions are.  Sessions isn't going to help, but he hasn't got the sack to stand in the way, either.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:19:59 PM
Then there's this lady, who was already going down in flames.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/red-state-democratic-sen-heidi-heitkamp-says-she-will-vote-no-on-kavanaugh/ar-BBNWA0P?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:24:58 PM
Calling it now.  Kavenaugh gets in, Gamble v Usa gets through the court on his vote, and the president effectively becomes a mob boss, given that any of his pardons become universal.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/17/17-646/62536/20180904142141905_17-646%20ts.pdf

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2018, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 04, 2018, 08:14:07 PM
You feel the FBI are pro-Kavenaugh?  Or is it that the GOP got their hands on the report first?

I am thinking the FBI has more factions than my company, and a few senators (McConnell, Hatch) are smart enough to learn who those factions are.  Sessions isn't going to help, but he hasn't got the sack to stand in the way, either.

It always pays to remember those stories about the "pro-Trump" FBI New York office, that was allegedly passing on information to Giuliani.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2018, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
I mean, they had a week, did it in 3 days, had a proscribed set of limits from the White House and didn't interview anyone about any sexual assault allegations.

Open and shut case boys.

And people will of course sit down and take it.

And less than 42% of eligible voters will show up in November.  Bet you.

The idea seems to be to make this into a wedge issue, to try and motivate the Republican base to turn up.

That's why pretty much every rightwing outlet is going all out on this story - to pin the blame on the Democrats, whip up the low information voters into a frenzy, put Democrats in purple states on the spot and counter "the blue wave".

Not that I ever thought the blue wave was going to be especially large or noteworthy (gerrymandering means the Democrats need a 10 point lead to even have a chance of taking the House and Senate, before all other factors are included).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
I mean, they had a week, did it in 3 days, had a proscribed set of limits from the White House and didn't interview anyone about any sexual assault allegations.

Open and shut case boys.

And people will of course sit down and take it.

And less than 42% of eligible voters will show up in November.  Bet you.

The idea seems to be to make this into a wedge issue, to try and motivate the Republican base to turn up.

That's why pretty much every rightwing outlet is going all out on this story - to pin the blame on the Democrats, whip up the low information voters into a frenzy, put Democrats in purple states on the spot and counter "the blue wave".

Not that I ever thought the blue wave was going to be especially large or noteworthy (gerrymandering means the Democrats need a 10 point lead to even have a chance of taking the House and Senate, before all other factors are included).

The election was done and dusted last night.  It's over. 

I'm still going to go vote, but it's over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: axod on October 04, 2018, 10:35:44 PM
I thought that his mis-represenation of the truth during his hearing would count against him. Now it seems like they were testing for that as a qualification to play in the highest court... in my days, they would have given /him/ the polygraph, not her.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 05, 2018, 07:49:01 AM
Oh yeah, this is someone about the right political convictions, who may also be blackmailable, and who is otherwise completely unsuitable for the position and so will be expected to show his gratitude.  It's classic Machiavelli, raise someone up who is reliant on your patronage and reap the benefits.  The complete lack of shame he showed over his lying is thus him signalling his qualifications, at least to this White House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
So I just sat and watched twenty minutes-worth1 of Collins mush-mouthing her excuses for voting for Kavenaugh.  Manchin followed immediately after.  Flake is still trying for his Oscar, but you and I know what he's going to do.



1 In MY day, politicians didn't waste their time explaining why they fucked you.  They just did it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 05, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
The legitimacy of the Supreme Court was already in question after the Merrick Garland debacle.  This just nullifies it entirely. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 05, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
Also Trump is spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories via Twitter ("paid Soros protestors") and this is being completely unremarked on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2018, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 05, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
Also Trump is spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories via Twitter ("paid Soros protestors") and this is being completely unremarked on.

I am unsure that anyone that isn't already a raving Nazi believes anything with the word "Soros" stapled to it.  Anyone on FB, for example that brings up Soros will be 169% likely to have 20 Pepe memes on their page.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2018, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 05, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
The legitimacy of the Supreme Court was already in question after the Merrick Garland debacle.  This just nullifies it entirely.

Pretty much.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2018, 10:53:37 PM
"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it."
- Dr. Joseph Mengele
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 06, 2018, 12:12:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
I mean, they had a week, did it in 3 days, had a proscribed set of limits from the White House and didn't interview anyone about any sexual assault allegations.

Open and shut case boys.

And people will of course sit down and take it.

And less than 42% of eligible voters will show up in November.  Bet you.

The idea seems to be to make this into a wedge issue, to try and motivate the Republican base to turn up.

That's why pretty much every rightwing outlet is going all out on this story - to pin the blame on the Democrats, whip up the low information voters into a frenzy, put Democrats in purple states on the spot and counter "the blue wave".

Not that I ever thought the blue wave was going to be especially large or noteworthy (gerrymandering means the Democrats need a 10 point lead to even have a chance of taking the House and Senate, before all other factors are included).

The election was done and dusted last night.  It's over. 

I'm still going to go vote, but it's over.

If you can - if any of you can - maybe also donate some money to the democrats' campaign. I just donated 100 dollars.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 06, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2018, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 05, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
Also Trump is spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories via Twitter ("paid Soros protestors") and this is being completely unremarked on.

I am unsure that anyone that isn't already a raving Nazi believes anything with the word "Soros" stapled to it.  Anyone on FB, for example that brings up Soros will be 169% likely to have 20 Pepe memes on their page.

:lulz:

There is a church near me who posts their "newsletter" every week on fb. George Soros is mentioned fairly frequently as one of those evil globalists trying to destroy America. I dunno about Nazi, but the guy (an elder of the church) is a bona fide Dominionist.

Dude's like 70 something years old, tho. I doubt he knows what a Pepe is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 06, 2018, 10:23:54 AM
Soros has pretty much replaced "Rothschild" for the "I don't want to say J00000s but you know we can't trust (((those people)))" crowd.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 06, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do1AqVvVsAA_BYl.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do1Bbr0UcAA1vXH.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do1MI7hXoAInjok.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 06, 2018, 06:09:44 PM
Would it even be legally possible for Soros (or anyone) to sue the president for slander? (or libel, whichever twitter is)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 06, 2018, 06:12:17 PM
I think so.  He didn't even hedge his statement at all "Paid for by Soros and others".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2018, 09:21:20 PM
Well, Kavenaugh is in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 12:55:57 AM
I think the sex scandal ironically distracted everyone from the fact that he's a fascist
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 02:03:55 AM
Like, there's so many damn sex scandals and drunk celebrities that people are becoming desensitized. His authoritarian views should have been attacked head on
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2018, 06:17:11 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 12:55:57 AM
I think the sex scandal ironically distracted everyone from the fact that he's a fascist

You think that bothers the senate?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Nothing would distract the Senate, because getting a reliable conservative on the bench was all that mattered
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Nothing would distract the Senate, because getting a reliable conservative on the bench was all that mattered

Or a conservative at any rate. I don't know how reliable. His decisions might not reliably help them; If he helps the court deliver a decision that presidential pardons extend to the state level it will help them in the short run but potentially undermine states' rights and thus hurt them in the long run (except when it comes to pot). And he might not be there too long; surely he's likely to have some kind of liver problem in the works.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2018, 08:19:23 AM
Republicans don't give a shit for state rights and never have.  "State rights" only matters to undermine civil rights.  And Kavanaugh is reliably big business, reliably anti-union, reliably against American contractors being held responsible for war crimes, and reliably anti-abortion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:33:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 08:19:23 AMRepublicans don't give a shit for state rights and never have.  "State rights" only matters to undermine civil rights.

They only care about states' rights when they undermine civil rights, but undermining civil rights is the only non-weed-related context in which states' rights, or indeed the states in general, ever come up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2018, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Nothing would distract the Senate, because getting a reliable conservative on the bench was all that mattered

Or a conservative at any rate. I don't know how reliable. His decisions might not reliably help them; If he helps the court deliver a decision that presidential pardons extend to the state level it will help them in the short run but potentially undermine states' rights and thus hurt them in the long run (except when it comes to pot). And he might not be there too long; surely he's likely to have some kind of liver problem in the works.

You'd think the same thing about Trump and his nose candy.  But no, I am here to tell you that Elvis died in his early 40s, and Reagan lived forever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2018, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:33:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 08:19:23 AMRepublicans don't give a shit for state rights and never have.  "State rights" only matters to undermine civil rights.

They only care about states' rights when they undermine civil rights, but undermining civil rights is the only non-weed-related context in which states' rights, or indeed the states in general, ever come up.

Who gives a crap though, when you control all 3 branches of the Federal government? You want your decisions to stick, and if you start actually caring for state rights arguments, some liberal states like California or Mass. are going to use it against you.

If you can undermine civil rights at a Federal level, have Congress write them, the President not veto them and the Supreme Court rubber stamp them, do you really want states to start challenging that?  Of course not.  Think about it, FFS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on October 07, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Nothing would distract the Senate, because getting a reliable conservative on the bench was all that mattered

Or a conservative at any rate. I don't know how reliable. His decisions might not reliably help them; If he helps the court deliver a decision that presidential pardons extend to the state level it will help them in the short run but potentially undermine states' rights and thus hurt them in the long run (except when it comes to pot). And he might not be there too long; surely he's likely to have some kind of liver problem in the works.

I'm REALLY hoping we get a leftist president who takes full advantage of that pardoning power.  Just decides that vice crimes aren't actually crimes any longer and pardons all the drug dealers and whores, makes it clear that they're on the unions side and will pardon anyone charged with criminal striking, so on and so forth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2018, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on October 07, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 07, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Nothing would distract the Senate, because getting a reliable conservative on the bench was all that mattered

Or a conservative at any rate. I don't know how reliable. His decisions might not reliably help them; If he helps the court deliver a decision that presidential pardons extend to the state level it will help them in the short run but potentially undermine states' rights and thus hurt them in the long run (except when it comes to pot). And he might not be there too long; surely he's likely to have some kind of liver problem in the works.

I'm REALLY hoping we get a leftist president who takes full advantage of that pardoning power.  Just decides that vice crimes aren't actually crimes any longer and pardons all the drug dealers and whores, makes it clear that they're on the unions side and will pardon anyone charged with criminal striking, so on and so forth.

While you're at it, hope for $6 Mn and a blowjob from Lady Gaga.

Both are equally likely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2018, 06:56:01 PM
This echoes a lot of my feelings

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/

QuoteToday, President Trump seems intent on withdrawing the US from the entire post–World War II structure of interlocking diplomatic, military, and economic agreements and organizations that have preserved peace, stability, and prosperity since 1945. His preference for bilateral relations, conceived as zero-sum rivalries in which he is the dominant player and "wins," overlaps with the ideological preference of Steve Bannon and the so-called alt-right for the unfettered self-assertion of autonomous, xenophobic nation-states—in short, the pre-1914 international system. That "international anarchy" produced World War I, the Bolshevik Revolution, the Great Depression, the fascist dictatorships, World War II, and the Holocaust, precisely the sort of disasters that the post–World War II international system has for seven decades remarkably avoided.

In threatening trade wars with allies and adversaries alike, Trump justifies increased tariffs on our allies on the specious pretext that countries like Canada are a threat to our national security. He combines his constant disparagement of our democratic allies with open admiration of authoritarians. His naive and narcissistic confidence in his own powers of personal diplomacy and his faith in a handshake with the likes of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un recall the hapless Neville Chamberlain (a man in every other regard different from Trump). Fortunately the US is so embedded in the international order it created after 1945, and the Republican Party and its business supporters are sufficiently alarmed over the threat to free trade, that Trump has not yet completed his agenda of withdrawal, though he has made astounding progress in a very short time.

QuoteBecause an ever-shrinking base of support for traditional conservatism made it impossible to carry out their authoritarian revision of the constitution, Hindenburg and the old right ultimately made their deal with Hitler and installed him as chancellor. Thinking that they could ultimately control Hitler while enjoying the benefits of his popular support, the conservatives were initially gratified by the fulfillment of their agenda: intensified rearmament, the outlawing of the Communist Party, the suspension first of freedom of speech, the press, and assembly and then of parliamentary government itself, a purge of the civil service, and the abolition of independent labor unions. Needless to say, the Nazis then proceeded far beyond the goals they shared with their conservative allies, who were powerless to hinder them in any significant way.

If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell. He stoked the hyperpolarization of American politics to make the Obama presidency as dysfunctional and paralyzed as he possibly could. As with parliamentary gridlock in Weimar, congressional gridlock in the US has diminished respect for democratic norms, allowing McConnell to trample them even more. Nowhere is this vicious circle clearer than in the obliteration of traditional precedents concerning judicial appointments. Systematic obstruction of nominations in Obama's first term provoked Democrats to scrap the filibuster for all but Supreme Court nominations. Then McConnell's unprecedented blocking of the Merrick Garland nomination required him in turn to scrap the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations in order to complete the "steal" of Antonin Scalia's seat and confirm Neil Gorsuch. The extreme politicization of the judicial nomination process is once again on display in the current Kavanaugh hearings.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
And...Trump's fucking losing it

(https://i.imgur.com/N2YiShZ.png)

So the unpaid paid protestors were protesting their lack of payment to the man they were paid to protest against. It just makes sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-ambassador-to-un-nikki-haley-quits-to-take-time-off/ar-BBO9dqk?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2018, 07:48:58 PM
Time off to plan her 2024 Presidential run, that is.

Sessions gets shitcanned, Graham gets promoted to AG.  He leaves his seat, Haley runs for it.  She spends a term and a half in the Senate, burnishing her image and showing she can do the legislative side as well as the executive stuff she previously did as Governor.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2018, 08:24:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 09, 2018, 07:48:58 PM
Time off to plan her 2024 Presidential run, that is.

Sessions gets shitcanned, Graham gets promoted to AG.  He leaves his seat, Haley runs for it.  She spends a term and a half in the Senate, burnishing her image and showing she can do the legislative side as well as the executive stuff she previously did as Governor.

Graham is just dumb enough to do that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
It's commonly believed that has why he has crawled up Trump's arse in the past 6 months or so.  That and a large infusion of Russian funding, anyway...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2018, 08:54:30 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-'something-doesn't-smell-right'-the-curious-timing-of-nikki-haley's-exit/ar-BBOa80S?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 10, 2018, 03:56:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2018, 08:54:30 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-'something-doesn't-smell-right'-the-curious-timing-of-nikki-haley's-exit/ar-BBOa80S?ocid=spartanntp

A lot of the comments on that article really seem to echo what Cain was saying. What is the basis of the conjecture that Trump will fire sessions, appoint LG and place Haley?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 11, 2018, 10:04:17 AM
Hey, so you know that Saudi dissident journalist who maybe, just maybe was lured to the Saudi Consulate in Turkey, was killed and had his body chopped up into little pieces to be flown out via diplomatic pouches?

Turns out that the Crown Prince and Jared were talking about him (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/trump-saudis-journalist-disappearance-890411) just the day before he vanished.

QuoteThe White House said Wednesday that the powerful Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, had spoken about Khashoggi the previous day with White House national security adviser John Bolton and Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner.

But why would that be important? Maybe because (https://theintercept.com/2018/03/21/jared-kushner-saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman/) Jared used to peruse the Daily Intelligence briefing and tell the Crown Prince which Saudis were plotting against him:

QuoteUntil he was stripped of his top-secret security clearance in February, presidential adviser Jared Kushner was known around the White House as one of the most voracious readers of the President's Daily Brief, a highly classified rundown of the latest intelligence intended only for the president and his closest advisers.

[...]

What exactly Kushner and the Saudi royal talked about in Riyadh may be known only to them, but after the meeting, Crown Prince Mohammed told confidants that Kushner had discussed the names of Saudis disloyal to the crown prince, according to three sources who have been in contact with members of the Saudi and Emirati royal families since the crackdown. Kushner, through his attorney's spokesperson, denies having done so.

So naturally, the White House is now engaging in a coverup of its own potential involvement

QuoteThe Post reported Tuesday night that prior to Khashoggi's disappearance, U.S. intelligence officials had intercepted discussions among Saudi officials about capturing him. Citing unnamed sources, the Post said the plan was to lure Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia and grab him there.

It's also not clear whether U.S. officials warned Khashoggi of any danger, but under standard rules, they have a "duty to warn" if a threat is credible, said Ned Price, a former CIA officer and top Obama administration official. "What we do know is Khashoggi entered the Saudi consulate," Price said. "And the fact that he did that leads one to believe that he was not fearful of an imminent Saudi threat."

A State Department spokesman said Wednesday the U.S. had "no advance knowledge of Jamal Khashoggi's disappearance."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 11, 2018, 07:34:09 PM
This is going to be a fun one. I trust you'll be keeping a good eye? Any updates pleasant, I'm still stuck being able to read but only write on odd occasions.

Also, likely fallout for SA? I'm guessing lots of hand-wringing and polite demands for answers then back to trying to sell them arms in say, 3 weeks? The comment for Hunt about "shared common values" still has me chuckling.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 11, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
This case had me interested even before I knew that Jared Kushner might be an accessory to state terrorism.  I actually taught a kid of one of the Khashoggi's for a while...nice lad.

It looks like a lot of civil society issues are cropping up for the Saudis right now.  Nothing earth-shattering, but having prominent businessmen and public intellectuals withdrawing from your state-run organisations isn't a good look for a "modernising" state.  Maybe this will get a few cheerleaders looking more critically at Saudi Arabia's quite frankly insane actions in the past few years.

But until a significant military supplier to Saudi Arabia cuts a trade deal, it's all so much hot air.  Trump has made it clear he gives precisely zero fucks, even though Jamal Khashoggi was a US resident.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 11, 2018, 11:49:31 PM
Saudi Arabia really needs to be toppled
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2018, 02:34:10 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 11, 2018, 11:49:31 PM
Saudi Arabia really needs to be toppled

Yeah?  What's in this for me?  Besides $6/gallon gasoline and the economy nailed to the fucking floor through its skull?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2018, 02:34:38 AM
I mean, looking back, having Libya fall over was just fucking brilliant, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 12, 2018, 07:02:33 AM
I've got a dozen grand I can drop on solar panels if it comes to it. It's a very significant chunk of my savings but I could do it if need be

EDIT:
In any case, Saudi Arabia is one of the most evil regimes in the world, or at least one of the most efficient exporters of evil. There's plenty of evil governments but the Saudi Arabian government does a really good job of having a negative impact on the entire world rather than jist their own oppressed subjects

EDIT:
They're like Russia or China. They've got enough influence to spread their evil into the world at large. But unlike Russia or China their collapse wouldn't result in a huge number of nuclear ICBMs becoming loose and contested.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Roger's point is that toppling a regime will always have unintended consequences.  Toppling Saudi Arabia in particular would have so many downstream ramifications it would make the Sicilian Expedition look like a reasonable military plan by comparison. 

I'm all for not doing business with them, throwing (Magnitsky Act) sanctions on them, kicking out their diplomats. 

But you topple the regime, the country will fracture.  Ikhwanist lunatics will seize power.  Iran will act to take advantage of the geopolitical weakness of the Sunni Arab states...if the Gulf states don't strike first.  Oil prices will go through the roof.  Innumerable markets face "adjustments" as Saudi money flows are cut off.   Iranian linked groups will try to seize the oilfields, which are in Shi'a majority areas.  Yemeni mercenaries current guarding the southern border will go rogue.  The Saudi National Guard will engage in brutal massacres to try and hold onto power.  The Red Sea will become a haven for piracy, threatening global supply chains.

These are just the things that are occuring to me before I finish my first coffee of the morning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 12, 2018, 01:06:23 PM
But a show of force needs to be made right, If I was even tangentially related to the saudi royalty and traveling abroad I would be nervous right now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
Magnitsky Act everyone on that list the Turkish authorities provided, and a few senior members of Saudi intelligence.  And have the former declared Specially Designated Global Terrorists too, just to underscore that this is an act of state terrorism (the effect on the finances are the same, the legal precedent could be very interesting).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 12, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Oh that is a nice way of handling it without the need for tit-for-tat murders.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
It is.  Even better, the Senate has finally done a smart thing...in the US legal system, if the chairman and ranking member of "an appropriate congressional committee" requests the Magnitsky Act be used, it triggers a provision where the President has 120 days to respond with a classified or unclassified briefing that has to determine if a crime has been committed and whether the President intends to impose sanctions if so.

Bob Corker and Robert Menendez, the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, have requested the act be used.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 12, 2018, 03:48:47 PM
It's a weird feeling to see politics actually working the way it was intended, i.e. resolving disputes without too much bloodshed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
Well, let's not count all our chickens just yet.

Any investigation is going to confirm that Jared and Bolton were talking with Saudi officials about Khasoggi, just days before he vanished.  And the President doesn't have to do anything, other than give a briefing explaining what the investigation found, and what he intends to do.  So of course, Trump will do nothing.

More interesting to me is that a significant number of Senators were willing to to this level right away.  I suspect recent Saudi behaviour has been raising more eyebrows in DC than is commonly acknowledged...maybe the Senate is finally getting sick of having to clean up whatever mess MBS has gotten himself into this week.  They're nowhere near jettisoning the alliance of course, not yet, but it's a step closer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2018, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 12, 2018, 07:02:33 AM
I've got a dozen grand I can drop on solar panels if it comes to it. It's a very significant chunk of my savings but I could do it if need be

How nice for you.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2018, 07:58:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 12, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
Well, let's not count all our chickens just yet.

Any investigation is going to confirm that Jared and Bolton were talking with Saudi officials about Khasoggi, just days before he vanished.  And the President doesn't have to do anything, other than give a briefing explaining what the investigation found, and what he intends to do.  So of course, Trump will do nothing.

More interesting to me is that a significant number of Senators were willing to to this level right away.  I suspect recent Saudi behaviour has been raising more eyebrows in DC than is commonly acknowledged...maybe the Senate is finally getting sick of having to clean up whatever mess MBS has gotten himself into this week.  They're nowhere near jettisoning the alliance of course, not yet, but it's a step closer.

I do not expect that this president or congress will do anything to anybody but our own people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
Probably not.  But it was nice to see a not insigificant amount of senators are willing to hold Saudi Arabia to account on something.  It's a start.  For a while there I thought MBS might get a senior US politician to lick his boots clean or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 12, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
Probably not.  But it was nice to see a not insigificant amount of senators are willing to hold Saudi Arabia to account on something.  It's a start.  For a while there I thought MBS might get a senior US politician to lick his boots clean or something.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 13, 2018, 01:58:38 AM
All of this highlights the need to switch to alternative energy sources and recycle your used plastic products. Because petrochemical use doesn't just hurt the environment, it also helps these shitheads.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 14, 2018, 02:09:31 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpUYIsOXcAA6GPq.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 14, 2018, 02:25:28 AM
wait, what?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 14, 2018, 02:31:06 AM
There was an incident last year, where a Chinese bodyguard tried to grab the nuclear ball.  It's the usual bullshit dress down routine, it was reported on at the time.

It wasn't reported that China apologised, and that was rejected unless the guy came to the US and apologised under the American flag.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 14, 2018, 09:22:18 PM
Did he also have to kiss the holy nuclear football contritely? Say a few prayers in front of it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 14, 2018, 02:31:06 AM
There was an incident last year, where a Chinese bodyguard tried to grab the nuclear ball.  It's the usual bullshit dress down routine, it was reported on at the time.

It wasn't reported that China apologised, and that was rejected unless the guy came to the US and apologised under the American flag.

The Trump administration displayed a lack of class?  Say it ain't so!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
Trump has been reading the democratic party's playbook, apparently.  :lol:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-travels-staying-away-from-swing-voters-in-midterms/ar-BBOoXkO?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 16, 2018, 11:55:18 PM
This looks legit.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-raids-san-juan-city-offices-weeks-after-trump-alleges-corruption/ar-BBOtgeS?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
So Soros, the Clintons and Obama have all received bombs in the mail in the past 3 days.

Gosh, I wonder if a campaign of permament demonisation and conspiracy mongering by major media organs and, oh, the White House could have contributed to this outcome?  No, probably just another spooky "false flag".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 24, 2018, 04:04:48 PM
They're trying to take away the Postal Service
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
Oh, and I see CNN's offices have also been evacuated due to a suspicious package.

A White House official has claimed they also intercepted a package, but Reuters is fighting them over the comment currently, so, uh, stay tuned I guess (just not to CNN).  Edit: Secret Service confirmed no bomb was intercepted for the White House, "official" in question probably smoking crack.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
CNN package was addressed to John Brennan, the former CIA head.  According to NBC, all the packages had return addresses "for a prominent Democratic Party official".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
And now a suspicious package sent to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is being investigated.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
And now a suspicious package sent to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is being investigated.

Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
CNN package was addressed to John Brennan, the former CIA head.  According to NBC, all the packages had return addresses "for a prominent Democratic Party official".

There are reports that the address on the packages is Wasserman Schultz's.  That makes it less clear whether the suspicious package is a bomb intended for her, or one for another target that was returned for some reason.  Awaiting confirmation on both points.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
YAY!  WE'RE BELFAST!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:38:39 PM
Kamala Harris's offices have been evacuated
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:42:57 PM
And Governor Cuomo's NYC office as well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:45:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
And now a suspicious package sent to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is being investigated.

Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 04:40:21 PM
CNN package was addressed to John Brennan, the former CIA head.  According to NBC, all the packages had return addresses "for a prominent Democratic Party official".

There are reports that the address on the packages is Wasserman Schultz's.  That makes it less clear whether the suspicious package is a bomb intended for her, or one for another target that was returned for some reason.  Awaiting confirmation on both points.

Update via Guardian:

QuoteThe packages had the return address of Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, CNN reported. It's a false return address used by whoever is behind the device. CNN reported that another explosive device was sent to President Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder - but it had the wrong address and was returned to center. That package was therefore returned to Wasserman Schultz's Florida office, where it was discovered as a suspicious package Wednesday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:38:39 PM
Kamala Harris's offices have been evacuated

False alarm
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 24, 2018, 05:53:19 PM
Putin meets Bolton amid nuclear treaty exit tensions
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/putin-receives-bolton-nuclear-treaty-exit-tensions-181023143704453.html


Quote[Putin] also poked fun at the official seal of the US, which includes a bald eagle holding a bundle of 13 arrows in one talon and an olive branch with 13 olives in another.

"I have a question: Has your eagle picked all the olives and only has arrows left?" Putin asked with a laugh.


"Hopefully, I will have some answers for you," he said. "But I didn't bring any more olives."

"That's what I thought," Putin quipped.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 05:42:57 PM
And Governor Cuomo's NYC office as well.

Also appears to be a false alarm.

There are reports from NBC that the postal service intercepted a suspicious package mailed to Maxine Waters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
Trump is on TV mush-mouthing ain't it awful, as if this isn't what he set out to build.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Give him 48 hours and he'll be covertly praising the bomber in some fashion.  He always does this shit, someone slaps him aound the face and tells him to get out there and make a message about unity and crap (probably Kelly and Cohn), and then within two days he'll be walking back on his comments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Give him 48 hours and he'll be covertly praising the bomber in some fashion.  He always does this shit, someone slaps him aound the face and tells him to get out there and make a message about unity and crap (probably Kelly and Cohn), and then within two days he'll be walking back on his comments.

He's also learned that if you do something horrific, then stop, you can start doing it again and nobody will say shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:43:49 PM
"Look there's good people on both sides, both the bomber and the people being bombed have very good and valid points, and this is not the time to be talking about locking up illegal MS-13 child rapefugees" - Trump by Friday night.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:43:49 PM
"Look there's good people on both sides, both the bomber and the people being bombed have very good and valid points, and this is not the time to be talking about locking up illegal MS-13 child rapefugees" - Trump by Friday night.

Not touching that bet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
It's almost like you don't believe Donald "carry them out on a stretcher" Trump's calls for political unity and comments that violence has no place in politics.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:52:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
It's almost like you don't believe Donald "carry them out on a stretcher" Trump's calls for political unity and comments that violence has no place in politics.

I am a suspicious man, prone to random bouts of paranoia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
It's worth mentioning that - even when you subtract the false alarms - this had to have been planned for quite some time.

Also, any suspicious package at all will shut down entire HQs, 13 days before the election.  From a psyops POV, it's brilliant.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
How about this for some paraoia fuel: the device sent to Cuomo's office was a fake (unlike the others, which have all been confirmed to be viable, live devices), but it contained within it a thumb drive with "material relating to the Proud Boys" on it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
How about this for some paraoia fuel: the device sent to Cuomo's office was a fake (unlike the others, which have all been confirmed to be viable, live devices), but it contained within it a thumb drive with "material relating to the Proud Boys" on it

Wait, what?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:58:08 PM
Also, this happened:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-steps-up-attacks-on-fed-chairman-powell/ar-BBOO7ww?ocid=spartanntp

Tomorrow isn't a thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 24, 2018, 07:59:21 PM
Now that I think of it, this kinda explains why NYC was on high alert yesterday. I wondered if something was up. I work in the financial district, and I saw cops everywhere. Grand Central had a bunch of armed, helmeted police (at least 4x more than normal). I had a 10-minute subway delay due to a "brake issue" but then the conductor read us a statement which suggested they were on high alert for suspicious packages.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
How about this for some paraoia fuel: the device sent to Cuomo's office was a fake (unlike the others, which have all been confirmed to be viable, live devices), but it contained within it a thumb drive with "material relating to the Proud Boys" on it

Wait, what?

Via the Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/oct/24/bombs-clintons-obamas-latest-live-news-updates-cnn-time-warner-evacuations-explosive-devices?page=with:block-5bd0b533e4b05b9fcceaf970#block-5bd0b533e4b05b9fcceaf970

QuoteThe device sent to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's Manhattan office was a hoax device, not a live explosive like the others, 1010 WINS radio reported.

But it contained a note citing the Proud Boys, the right wing group whose members were recently involved in a physical fight with protesters in Manhattan.

NY1 said the device was a thumb drive.

"The suspicious package at the Governor's office has been deemed non-suspicious, non-hazard. NOT related to other events," the NYPD told Politico.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/oct/24/bombs-clintons-obamas-latest-live-news-updates-cnn-time-warner-evacuations-explosive-devices?page=with:block-5bd0bbaae4b06f1151d11d9f#block-5bd0bbaae4b06f1151d11d9f

QuoteNew York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's spokesman has identified the device sent to his office, originally believed to be suspicious, as a thumb drive containing files on the far right group Proud Boys. It does not appear to be related to the explosive devices.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2018, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 24, 2018, 07:59:21 PM
Now that I think of it, this kinda explains why NYC was on high alert yesterday. I wondered if something was up. I work in the financial district, and I saw cops everywhere. Grand Central had a bunch of armed, helmeted police (at least 4x more than normal). I had a 10-minute subway delay due to a "brake issue" but then the conductor read us a statement which suggested they were on high alert for suspicious packages.

After the Soros package, it may have been a precaution. 

Or it could have been something else entirely.  New York's a big city after all, very tempting target.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 24, 2018, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2018, 07:43:49 PM
"Look there's good people on both sides, both the bomber and the people being bombed have very good and valid points, and this is not the time to be talking about locking up illegal MS-13 child rapefugees" - Trump by Friday night.

Not touching that bet.

I've got three rusty nails that says Trump will go the other way on it, and claim it's a false flag op by the Dems or BLM.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on October 24, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

Oh god I hope so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

Oh god I hope so.

Same.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on October 24, 2018, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:54:25 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

Oh god I hope so.

Same.  :lulz:

That dildo practice will be coming in handy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 24, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Not 100% verified, but apparently there are stamps but no postmark on the one sent to CNN?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 09:35:05 PM
Eric Holder and Maxine Waters gone one, too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 09:35:23 PM
Also Brennan.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 24, 2018, 10:49:50 PM
This thread is the first I've heard of this. I'm remembering Transmet here, which both comforts and worries me. I need an expert opinion on where this goes next.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 25, 2018, 12:14:44 AM
For a bombing attempt 2mweeks before an election this is pretty much a best-case scenario, nobody got hurt, and it will generate sympathy for the democrats while painting the republicans in a bad light and putting focus on non-islamic terrorism.

Like I'm glad it clearly was targeting Democrats because otherwise if there was a chance it was non-domestic the Republicans would all be up there all "....blah blah blah ISIS ISIS ISIS...." and all the sheeple would listen and the republicans would win the election for sure
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 01:24:36 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 24, 2018, 10:49:50 PM
This thread is the first I've heard of this. I'm remembering Transmet here, which both comforts and worries me. I need an expert opinion on where this goes next.

My guess is next there will be 2 AM raids.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2018, 01:34:04 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 25, 2018, 12:14:44 AM
For a bombing attempt 2mweeks before an election this is pretty much a best-case scenario, nobody got hurt, and it will generate sympathy for the democrats while painting the republicans in a bad light and putting focus on non-islamic terrorism.

You're forgetting two words:

"False flag."

As in, "The Democrats knew they were going to lose the election so they sacrificed their own people in a false flag attack to get the sympathy vote! They're sickos!"

As in, "I normally consider myself a centrist but those democrats went too far with that false flag bomb attack. It even had that one senators name on the return address!"

You're foolish to believe this is a sympathy win for democrats. Anyone right of, oh, say, Bill Clinton (far from a true leftist, but not quite a centrist either) is going to be at risk for the opposite, a baseless disgust vote against the left.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 01:57:59 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2018, 01:34:04 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 25, 2018, 12:14:44 AM
For a bombing attempt 2mweeks before an election this is pretty much a best-case scenario, nobody got hurt, and it will generate sympathy for the democrats while painting the republicans in a bad light and putting focus on non-islamic terrorism.

You're forgetting two words:

"False flag."

As in, "The Democrats knew they were going to lose the election so they sacrificed their own people in a false flag attack to get the sympathy vote! They're sickos!"

As in, "I normally consider myself a centrist but those democrats went too far with that false flag bomb attack. It even had that one senators name on the return address!"

You're foolish to believe this is a sympathy win for democrats. Anyone right of, oh, say, Bill Clinton (far from a true leftist, but not quite a centrist either) is going to be at risk for the opposite, a baseless disgust vote against the left.

Shandor is a mush-mouthing authoritarian.  This is the kind of shit he says all the time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2018, 02:06:28 AM
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the heads up, I've forgotten everyone but the core cast of characters here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 03:14:07 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2018, 02:06:28 AM
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the heads up, I've forgotten everyone but the core cast of characters here.

By which you mean "half a dozen cranky old fucks who won't leave their ghost town."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2018, 03:58:43 AM
I love you grouchy bastards anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2018, 05:34:41 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2018, 01:34:04 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 25, 2018, 12:14:44 AM
For a bombing attempt 2mweeks before an election this is pretty much a best-case scenario, nobody got hurt, and it will generate sympathy for the democrats while painting the republicans in a bad light and putting focus on non-islamic terrorism.

You're forgetting two words:

"False flag."

As in, "The Democrats knew they were going to lose the election so they sacrificed their own people in a false flag attack to get the sympathy vote! They're sickos!"

As in, "I normally consider myself a centrist but those democrats went too far with that false flag bomb attack. It even had that one senators name on the return address!"

You're foolish to believe this is a sympathy win for democrats. Anyone right of, oh, say, Bill Clinton (far from a true leftist, but not quite a centrist either) is going to be at risk for the opposite, a baseless disgust vote against the left.

Yes, this started almost immediately after the bombs were found.

Also false equivalences between bombing attempts and protesting people at restaurants (thanks, Meghan McCain!)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2018, 05:52:43 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 24, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Not 100% verified, but apparently there are stamps but no postmark on the one sent to CNN?

It was delivered by a verified courier, apparently. Could be the bomber used a cut-out or disguise, but either way it's a lead towards discovering them.

Trump has already started attacking the media over the coverage of the bomb attempts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45973436

QuotePresident Donald Trump has called on the media "to stop the endless hostility", after suspected explosives were posted to high-profile US figures.

He was speaking after parcels were sent to CNN and top Democrats, including Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

QuoteSpeaking at a Wednesday night rally in Wisconsin, the president vowed to catch the perpetrator, while calling on the media to end "constant negative and oftentimes false attacks and stories".

Mr Trump also called for more civility in public life, saying: "Those engaged in political arena must stop treating political opponents as being morally defective.

"No one should carelessly compare political opponents to historic villains, which is done often."

However, the president made no specific reference to the intended recipients of the packages.

Also investigators are looking for a package addressed to Joe Biden.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2018, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

FWIW, I don't think the Proud Boys as a group are behind the others.

They're a streetfighting group, it's all about proving their "manly virility" by shoving their fist in some poor bastard's face as part of a 10 vs 1 beatdown.  Bombs just don't have the same effect, it's a different psychological profile with different motivations.

The timing is suspicious, I will agree, but otherwise it doesn't fit.  The bomber's almost certainly from a far-right milieu though, so he may be a "fan" of the Proud Boys, even if he's not a member himself or getting help from them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2018, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

FWIW, I don't think the Proud Boys as a group are behind the others.

They're a streetfighting group, it's all about proving their "manly virility" by shoving their fist in some poor bastard's face as part of a 10 vs 1 beatdown.  Bombs just don't have the same effect, it's a different psychological profile with different motivations.

The timing is suspicious, I will agree, but otherwise it doesn't fit.  The bomber's almost certainly from a far-right milieu though, so he may be a "fan" of the Proud Boys, even if he's not a member himself or getting help from them.

I'd say the quotes sound appropriate there. My first guess was a member of a rival group from the Proud Boys. If the one package was from the same individual, I'd buy that all the way instead of just having the suspicion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 25, 2018, 07:15:01 AM
The usual suspects are already false flagging it up.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/3km93v/prominent-conservatives-accuse-liberals-of-sending-the-bombs-to-themselves?fbclid=IwAR3V5IL2ZcqhDTbes4wxzbZt5jiyBxnG9Mp-hCwr9BUyxfxvOtVThhEIZdM

I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed that no-one has postulated ISIS being behind the whole thing to help the Democrats in the midterms.

ISIS IN AMERICA, EVEN!!!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 25, 2018, 01:02:03 PM
THEY WERE SENT BY THE MIGRANT CARAVAN!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2018, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

FWIW, I don't think the Proud Boys as a group are behind the others.

They're a streetfighting group, it's all about proving their "manly virility" by shoving their fist in some poor bastard's face as part of a 10 vs 1 beatdown.  Bombs just don't have the same effect, it's a different psychological profile with different motivations.

The timing is suspicious, I will agree, but otherwise it doesn't fit.  The bomber's almost certainly from a far-right milieu though, so he may be a "fan" of the Proud Boys, even if he's not a member himself or getting help from them.

I'm going disagree on this.  The Proudboys are, above all, arrogant cunts that think they are clever.  I don't think they did it without some guidance, but they will be involved.  Check my open offer of a wager on this in the speculation thread.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 07:22:43 PM
What if you had a book-burning rally and nobody came?  :(

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-holds-rally-for-republican-candidates-but-none-show-up/ar-BBORjJl?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
Gina Haskell gets free porn:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cia-chief-to-brief-trump-after-hearing-khashoggi-audio/ar-BBOSUcb?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 11:39:48 PM
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/opinions-caitlyn-jenner-i-thought-trump-would-help-the-lgbtq-community-i-was-wrong/ar-BBOU9Ar?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2018, 11:57:39 PM
I just saw that. As a trans woman myself, it's good one of the biggest public figures has finally wised the hell up.

It's also fucking disgusting it took this long, and that she has consistently undermined every attempt to point out that our Arch-Shitbaboon has as much to do with LGBT rights as Mussolini did with communism in the meantime. It sucks to say that she's also the best goddamn shot we have at making any serious change for the better from within our own wider community, or I'd say "and now she can race headlong into a running thresher."

She can still do that of course, she just first has the Sisyphean task of rolling the rights and respect for LGBT people back uphill where she helped dislodge it from. An old friend of mine would put it, "making her build a woodshed for the express purpose of taking her behind it." And if she fails, who really needs the woodshed? We'll all be subhuman down there anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 01:46:58 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2018, 11:57:39 PM
I just saw that. As a trans woman myself, it's good one of the biggest public figures has finally wised the hell up.

It's also fucking disgusting it took this long, and that she has consistently undermined every attempt to point out that our Arch-Shitbaboon has as much to do with LGBT rights as Mussolini did with communism in the meantime. It sucks to say that she's also the best goddamn shot we have at making any serious change for the better from within our own wider community, or I'd say "and now she can race headlong into a running thresher."

She can still do that of course, she just first has the Sisyphean task of rolling the rights and respect for LGBT people back uphill where she helped dislodge it from. An old friend of mine would put it, "making her build a woodshed for the express purpose of taking her behind it." And if she fails, who really needs the woodshed? We'll all be subhuman down there anyway.

There comes a point where it's too late to say you're sorry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 26, 2018, 03:36:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2018, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

FWIW, I don't think the Proud Boys as a group are behind the others.

They're a streetfighting group, it's all about proving their "manly virility" by shoving their fist in some poor bastard's face as part of a 10 vs 1 beatdown.  Bombs just don't have the same effect, it's a different psychological profile with different motivations.

The timing is suspicious, I will agree, but otherwise it doesn't fit.  The bomber's almost certainly from a far-right milieu though, so he may be a "fan" of the Proud Boys, even if he's not a member himself or getting help from them.

I'm going disagree on this.  The Proudboys are, above all, arrogant cunts that think they are clever.  I don't think they did it without some guidance, but they will be involved.  Check my open offer of a wager on this in the speculation thread.

Yes, well, it's not like I have any special expertise on this topic or anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 05:07:48 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 26, 2018, 03:36:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2018, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2018, 06:29:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 24, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on October 24, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Votes on him not mentioning it at all?

He's already jabbering about how we'll get the bad guys.

Anyone else think McGinnes was in on this?  It fits his general air of incompetence.

FWIW, I don't think the Proud Boys as a group are behind the others.

They're a streetfighting group, it's all about proving their "manly virility" by shoving their fist in some poor bastard's face as part of a 10 vs 1 beatdown.  Bombs just don't have the same effect, it's a different psychological profile with different motivations.

The timing is suspicious, I will agree, but otherwise it doesn't fit.  The bomber's almost certainly from a far-right milieu though, so he may be a "fan" of the Proud Boys, even if he's not a member himself or getting help from them.

I'm going disagree on this.  The Proudboys are, above all, arrogant cunts that think they are clever.  I don't think they did it without some guidance, but they will be involved.  Check my open offer of a wager on this in the speculation thread.

Yes, well, it's not like I have any special expertise on this topic or anything.

Of course you do.  And I have a history of badly losing bets based on a gut feeling.

I'm already composing the letter, you see, but I will ride this bastard down in flames.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 07:01:41 PM
See?  And now I gotta write a letter.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 26, 2018, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 01:46:58 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2018, 11:57:39 PM
I just saw that. As a trans woman myself, it's good one of the biggest public figures has finally wised the hell up.

It's also fucking disgusting it took this long, and that she has consistently undermined every attempt to point out that our Arch-Shitbaboon has as much to do with LGBT rights as Mussolini did with communism in the meantime. It sucks to say that she's also the best goddamn shot we have at making any serious change for the better from within our own wider community, or I'd say "and now she can race headlong into a running thresher."

She can still do that of course, she just first has the Sisyphean task of rolling the rights and respect for LGBT people back uphill where she helped dislodge it from. An old friend of mine would put it, "making her build a woodshed for the express purpose of taking her behind it." And if she fails, who really needs the woodshed? We'll all be subhuman down there anyway.

There comes a point where it's too late to say you're sorry.

Oh yes, I agree. This is less "something she can do to get back into everyone's good graces" and more "penance paid before we exile her to the wastelands." She's not possible to salvage, but I'll let her fight the monster she helped create before I tell her that. It saves better people from having to do that work.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 07:01:41 PM
See?  And now I gotta write a letter.  :lulz:

:ECH: Have fun with that.

But seriously, there's good reasons to believe that groups like the Proud Boys, who are focusing on streetfighting, are attempting to institutionalise themselves with existing political faction.  They essentially want to become the armed wing of the Republican Party (and their networking and relationships with mid-level Republican state officials points to that).  The Identity Evropa group is doing similar things, more quietly, and it's probably where that unoriginal hack McInnes is cribbing his notes from.

They would turn to terrorist violence, eventually, but they'd do it with state backing, and they'd do it with guns and knives, as a death squad.  It's the type of violence and type of organisation and recruits they are.  They want to be the SA, anonymous bombs is how the "Muzzies" do it.  So a bombing campaign doesn't fit, especially not now, while police agencies are essentially turning a blind eye to their activities (Oregon and NYPD essentially protected them while they randomly attacked counterprotestors).  Federal heat, especially in the form of the FBI, would make them crumble.  It'd get them infiltrated, and the FBI are very, very good at getting informants in far-right groups.

I'd also like to think that if they can get a couple of hundred people to turn up for a street fight, they'd do better than some idiot in Florida was able to do on his own.

I should have guessed Florida though.  Florida has the highest concentration of hate groups in the USA outside of California and Texas, and that the bombs started showing up on the east coast first was an obvious clue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 27, 2018, 05:49:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2018, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 26, 2018, 07:01:41 PM
See?  And now I gotta write a letter.  :lulz:

:ECH: Have fun with that.

But seriously, there's good reasons to believe that groups like the Proud Boys, who are focusing on streetfighting, are attempting to institutionalise themselves with existing political faction.  They essentially want to become the armed wing of the Republican Party (and their networking and relationships with mid-level Republican state officials points to that).  The Identity Evropa group is doing similar things, more quietly, and it's probably where that unoriginal hack McInnes is cribbing his notes from.

They would turn to terrorist violence, eventually, but they'd do it with state backing, and they'd do it with guns and knives, as a death squad.  It's the type of violence and type of organisation and recruits they are.  They want to be the SA, anonymous bombs is how the "Muzzies" do it.  So a bombing campaign doesn't fit, especially not now, while police agencies are essentially turning a blind eye to their activities (Oregon and NYPD essentially protected them while they randomly attacked counterprotestors).  Federal heat, especially in the form of the FBI, would make them crumble.  It'd get them infiltrated, and the FBI are very, very good at getting informants in far-right groups.

I'd also like to think that if they can get a couple of hundred people to turn up for a street fight, they'd do better than some idiot in Florida was able to do on his own.

I should have guessed Florida though.  Florida has the highest concentration of hate groups in the USA outside of California and Texas, and that the bombs started showing up on the east coast first was an obvious clue.

So who's the bigger actual threat?  Proudboys or Evropa?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2018, 05:58:53 PM
Long term, I'm thinking Evropa.  They're more focused on bringing in college-educated guys - that's where they're recruiting, on campus, and the plan is to seed Young Republican groups at universities with their followers. 

The Proud Boys are also more...parafascist than anything else.  Fundamentally, their outlook is western chauvinism and although they're quite happy to work with white nationalists and Neo-Nazis, they themselves are not.  They accept non-white recruits, by way of an example.  They're more the Mussolini style of fascism, they want an authoritarian state with white men on top, but they're not too fussy about blacks and Latinos still being around.  Not to mention their over the top violence is alienating people.

Identity Evropa, on the other hand, are unabashedly Neo-Nazi.  Full on "Hitler did nothing wrong" "exterminate the Jews" Neo-Nazism.  And with their infiltration tactics, they have their eye on the long-term goal: Make the Republican Party not just the de facto  party of white nationalism, but the actual party of white supremacy, working from the local level up. Aside from Charlottesville (they had the "we will not be replaced" signs), they fly very low on the radar.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2018, 06:00:01 PM
Oh and by the way, in the last hour, someone shot up a synagogue in Pittsburgh while screaming "kill the Jews".  8 dead, 12 wounded at this point in time.  Trump has blamed the synagogue for not having armed security.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 27, 2018, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2018, 06:00:01 PM
Oh and by the way, in the last hour, someone shot up a synagogue in Pittsburgh while screaming "kill the Jews".  8 dead, 12 wounded at this point in time.  Trump has blamed the synagogue for not having armed security.

Of COURSE he has.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2018, 06:10:17 PM
Link for the story

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/active-shooter-reported-near-pittsburgh-synagogue-n925211

QuoteA suspect was in custody on Saturday morning after a fatal shooting with multiple casualties near the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, where Sabbath services were taking place, according to local officials.

At least 12 people were injured, three of whom appeared to be law enforcement and at least eight of which were fatalities, according to preliminary information from multiple senior law enforcement officials.

It is believed the suspect, identified by multiple law enforcement officials as Rob Bowers, 46, of Pittsburgh, was armed with an AR-15-style rifle and multiple handguns.

Congregants told MSNBC that a circumcision celebration, known as a bris, was taking place in the synagogue this morning.

And Trump's comment (https://twitter.com/justin_fenton/status/1056223615170031616) (video at link):

QuotePresident Trump, asked about gun laws, says the Pittsburgh synagogue should have had armed security at the bris and the gunman wouldn't be able to do what he did

Beyond the obvious, here is part of his motive (https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1056211447351595008?fbclid=IwAR1CuZna_st4FkZhHn27Rwd7wlkqelGS2j8KL9D3aScnTkxwF8LemCRpEUg) for the attack:

Quotealleged suspect had post 2hrs ago blaming jewish immigration resettlement org for caravan, "likes to bring invaders in that kill our people"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 27, 2018, 06:13:42 PM
Oh my god. I went to Tree of Life to do research when I was in Pittsburgh. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 27, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
So:

This shitbag hated Trump, not because Trump was too far right, but because he wasn't going full Axis Powers. That's right, this guy was anti-Trump because Trump wasn't enough of a Nazi, wasn't willing enough to murder innocents.

He himself is a neo-Nazi, dark enlightenment scumfuck, so you can at least partially blame Trump and his creatures anyhow.

Eleven worshippers dead at least, four police wounded. This guy was really loaded too: a rifle (AR pattern) and three handguns. No word on how heavy on ammunition he was, but he's apparently alive still. That's right, the armed attempted-cop-killer nazi scumfuck was captured alive. Chances are he ran totally dry or was loaded with weeks worth of ammo and just didn't feel like rolling those dice.

Word is on the news sites I've seen that this is probably the most deadly anti-Semitic act in US history.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 28, 2018, 03:24:51 AM
Trump: 'They Probably Will Never Give' Me the Nobel Peace Prize, Despite What We've Accomplished

As per the article:

'During his speech to the Future Farmers of America, President Donald Trump went on a tangent about why he will never get a Nobel Peace Prize.

He brought up Dr. Norman Borlaug and when he received the honor in 1970, before saying this of the Nobel Peace Prize:

"We won the Nobel Peace Prize. They probably will never give it to me, even what I'm doing in Korea and Idlib province and all of these places. They probably will never give it to me. You know why? Because they don't want to."'

Here's a link: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-they-probably-will-never-give-me-the-nobel-peace-prize-despite-what-weve-accomplished/


I think there's a little more to it than simply "Because they don't want to."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 28, 2018, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2018, 06:00:01 PM
Trump has blamed the synagogue for not having armed security.

I'm not generally an angry person, but that pisses me off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 28, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
His words since the news hit have gotten progressively less defensible. It feels like a hostile occupying power, not an elected regime.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 29, 2018, 12:08:49 AM
So, we're hearing "More guns is the solution to the gun violence problem in the USofA." yet again. Unfortunately, it's not surprising, considering the source.

Oddly enough, I haven't seen/heard/read any formal response from the NRA to date. But, they've already bought and paid for enough politicians over the years, perhaps they don't really have to respond directly anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 29, 2018, 05:35:29 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on October 28, 2018, 11:37:33 PM
I'm not generally an angry person, but that pisses me off.

It's horrific.  "It's your fault for being killed because you don't want to worship in what is essentially a fortified camp."

Quote from: nullified on October 28, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
His words since the news hit have gotten progressively less defensible. It feels like a hostile occupying power, not an elected regime.

Agreed.  He's really spiralling out of control, I think this is about the worst he's been.  And no-one seems to be trying to hold him accountable for these comments, on either side of the fence.  He's getting people killed with his lazy, racist, conspiratorial rhetoric and no-one cares.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 29, 2018, 05:42:48 AM
By 2020, he'll have every MAGA hat wearing yokel patrolling the streets with assault weapons, and expecting the rest of us to be thankful.

Demanding our thanks, even. Or else.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 29, 2018, 08:25:00 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 28, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
His words since the news hit have gotten progressively less defensible. It feels like a hostile occupying power, not an elected regime.

That's probably because he wasn't elected.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 29, 2018, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on October 28, 2018, 03:24:51 AM
Trump: 'They Probably Will Never Give' Me the Nobel Peace Prize, Despite What We've Accomplished

As per the article:

'During his speech to the Future Farmers of America, President Donald Trump went on a tangent about why he will never get a Nobel Peace Prize.

He brought up Dr. Norman Borlaug and when he received the honor in 1970, before saying this of the Nobel Peace Prize:

"We won the Nobel Peace Prize. They probably will never give it to me, even what I'm doing in Korea and Idlib province and all of these places. They probably will never give it to me. You know why? Because they don't want to."'

Here's a link: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-they-probably-will-never-give-me-the-nobel-peace-prize-despite-what-weve-accomplished/


I think there's a little more to it than simply "Because they don't want to."

To be fair, they gave a Nobel Prize to Egas Moniz; that's on par with giving one to Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on October 29, 2018, 12:02:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 29, 2018, 05:35:29 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on October 28, 2018, 11:37:33 PM
I'm not generally an angry person, but that pisses me off.

It's horrific.  "It's your fault for being killed because you don't want to worship in what is essentially a fortified camp."

Quote from: nullified on October 28, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
His words since the news hit have gotten progressively less defensible. It feels like a hostile occupying power, not an elected regime.

Agreed.  He's really spiralling out of control, I think this is about the worst he's been.  And no-one seems to be trying to hold him accountable for these comments, on either side of the fence.  He's getting people killed with his lazy, racist, conspiratorial rhetoric and no-one cares.

When asked if he was planning to tone down his rhetoric in response to the recent bombingns, he said he would like "tone up" instead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on October 29, 2018, 05:43:04 PM
Quote

''The president's not trying to reach his base by denouncing anti-Semitism and asking everybody to rise above hate..."


Kellyanne Conway, Counselor to the President

I guess this says a lot about Donald Trump's base.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 29, 2018, 06:21:54 PM
She also tried to blame the attack on "anti-religosity" rather than the blatant anti-semitism.  The government is doing apologetics for a Neo-Nazi killer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 29, 2018, 07:56:54 PM
Trump and his Trump Oganization RICO suit: pyramid scheme near denial

As per the article:

"A civil RICO suit has been brought against The Trump Organization, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Ivanka Trump in United States District Court for their participation in a pyramid scheme"

Here's a link: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/29/1808194/-Trump-and-his-Trump-Organization-RICO-suit
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 29, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 29, 2018, 05:42:48 AM
By 2020, he'll have every MAGA hat wearing yokel patrolling the streets with assault weapons, and expecting the rest of us to be thankful.

Demanding our thanks, even. Or else.

This particular Bad Future is very close to home for me, because I currently live in the Killeen, TX area. I was, for a time, fearlessly walking the two miles to the nearest gas station on a semi regular basis. Now I'm genuinely scared to walk too far down the street.

Note that I walked through gang territory in Pittsburgh, the bad part of town in Butler, etc, for most of my life without fear. I was mugged only once, ever. 2AM, on foot, in the wrong side of the tracks was generally a good night for me, and that's not some kind of comparative statement.

White southern suburbia terrifies me in a way that the gang territories and the projects never, ever did. And you put the finger on precisely why.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 30, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 29, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 29, 2018, 05:42:48 AM
By 2020, he'll have every MAGA hat wearing yokel patrolling the streets with assault weapons, and expecting the rest of us to be thankful.

Demanding our thanks, even. Or else.

This particular Bad Future is very close to home for me, because I currently live in the Killeen, TX area. I was, for a time, fearlessly walking the two miles to the nearest gas station on a semi regular basis. Now I'm genuinely scared to walk too far down the street.

Note that I walked through gang territory in Pittsburgh, the bad part of town in Butler, etc, for most of my life without fear. I was mugged only once, ever. 2AM, on foot, in the wrong side of the tracks was generally a good night for me, and that's not some kind of comparative statement.

White southern suburbia terrifies me in a way that the gang territories and the projects never, ever did. And you put the finger on precisely why.


Do you have self-appointed Citizens On Patrol looking for some Bad Hombres, or just a general attitude, and/or side-eye or... what makes you feel that way?

There is a nowhere Podunk town of maybe 3,000 people near me. After 9/11 people were patrolling the streets armed on horseback to protect the town from a possible Al Qaeda attack. I'm sure they were all having the time of their lives, and there there are plenty of people around here who would love to make that a permanent thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 30, 2018, 08:16:48 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 30, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 29, 2018, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on October 29, 2018, 05:42:48 AM
By 2020, he'll have every MAGA hat wearing yokel patrolling the streets with assault weapons, and expecting the rest of us to be thankful.

Demanding our thanks, even. Or else.

This particular Bad Future is very close to home for me, because I currently live in the Killeen, TX area. I was, for a time, fearlessly walking the two miles to the nearest gas station on a semi regular basis. Now I'm genuinely scared to walk too far down the street.

Note that I walked through gang territory in Pittsburgh, the bad part of town in Butler, etc, for most of my life without fear. I was mugged only once, ever. 2AM, on foot, in the wrong side of the tracks was generally a good night for me, and that's not some kind of comparative statement.

White southern suburbia terrifies me in a way that the gang territories and the projects never, ever did. And you put the finger on precisely why.


Do you have self-appointed Citizens On Patrol looking for some Bad Hombres, or just a general attitude, and/or side-eye or... what makes you feel that way?

There is a nowhere Podunk town of maybe 3,000 people near me. After 9/11 people were patrolling the streets armed on horseback to protect the town from a possible Al Qaeda attack. I'm sure they were all having the time of their lives, and there there are plenty of people around here who would love to make that a permanent thing.

Combination of general attitude (a kid was sent death threats by adults for being trans) and the nearest other town being Fort Hood. I get along with vets most of the time, but I am finding more and more reason to fear the military and those in it when I bump shoulders with them daily.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2018, 04:23:28 PM
I was in/around Killeen for 3 years.  It's not the minorities you have to worry about.


Same as Temple, TX.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 30, 2018, 08:26:58 PM
That's what I thought.

EDIT: Should probably clarify I meant the above in a "ah, you have confirmed what I suspected" way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mueller-asks-fbi-to-probe-scheme-seeking-sexual-assault-dirt-on-him/ar-BBP7E25?ocid=spartanntp

Mueller isn't Al Franken, you will have to try harder.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2018, 09:53:59 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sources-justice-department-investigating-interior-secretary-ryan-zinke/ar-BBP7Iun?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 30, 2018, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mueller-asks-fbi-to-probe-scheme-seeking-sexual-assault-dirt-on-him/ar-BBP7E25?ocid=spartanntp

Mueller isn't Al Franken, you will have to try harder.

This is hilarious. The last paragraph KILLED ME, just like Butkman was KILLED investigating conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 30, 2018, 10:53:03 PM
Getting owned by either of the Krassenstein brothers is a new low, even for Jacob Wohl.  It's like having your head flushed in the toilet by the school nerd.

I would've killed myself out of shame already.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 30, 2018, 10:58:04 PM
Context? I must have missed what you're referring to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 30, 2018, 11:03:45 PM
Hill Reporter (https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207) was one of the first sites to break this story, and in particular the involvement of Jacob Wohl, 20 year old expert on capitalism, why liberal hipsters in coffee shops secretly support Trump, and generally being a gigantic cunt online.

Notice the byline.  The Krassenstein brothers are heros of #TheResistance, which is to say they're super active on Twitter and also pretty fucking annoying, though nowhere near as much as Jacob Wohl.  They also supplied hosting to a bunch of dodgy as fuck MLM schemes until they got told to stop it, and jumping the Trump resistance bandwagon seems their way to both rehabilitate their images and get some working capital again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 30, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45005928_10156748654209393_1311278546538201088_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.flcy1-1.fna&oh=9a825074140c0e1f2856cb244576aa5f&oe=5C477045)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 30, 2018, 11:15:42 PM
It's pretty solid journalism, surprising given your description of them. They either hired an actual journalist to do the work, or they're putting in more effort than I'd expect for a simple PR move, even one attempting to right a sinking ship.

But yeah, that is pretty damned hilarious. Especially funny is the way the nutters acted like villains in an espionage thriller.

"You're in over your head. Drop this." If you ever have to send a message like that, you are the bad guy. Jesus fuck.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2018, 03:17:53 AM
So that thing where they're sending 5200+ troops to deal with a refugee column?

Mattis & co have named it "Operation Faithful Patriot."

There are no good Trumpsters.  They are all scum.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 31, 2018, 03:29:05 AM
This is definitely a fucking horror story.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 31, 2018, 01:24:44 PM
On a lighter note:  Umbrella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkOl0aUsxE).  Was he unable to figure out how to close it, or does he just not care anymore?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 31, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
Maybe he's depressed. That/s a good sign for our chances during the election.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on October 31, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
God I hope so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 31, 2018, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on October 31, 2018, 01:24:44 PM
On a lighter note:  Umbrella (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkOl0aUsxE).  Was he unable to figure out how to close it, or does he just not care anymore?

Probably doesn't care, sees it as dispoable.

Having dealt with a not insignificant number of people in Trump's strata of wealth, especially if they have inherited that wealth they are extremely blase about just leaving items when it's not convenient.  He probably saw closing it as more of an effort than just dropping it on the floor.

You'd be amazed at the things I have seen left behind in rooms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 31, 2018, 07:41:54 PM
I may suggest it's more meaningful that no one on staff rushed to collect it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 31, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
They also didn't let him know when he had toilet paper stuck to his shoe.  I wonder how many of his staff would think twice about jumping in front of a bullet for him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 01, 2018, 02:59:14 AM
Has Mueller Subpoenaed the President?

WARNING: This is a long article, that is even longer on speculation. But, one can hope.

As per the article:

"A careful reading of court filings suggests the special counsel hasn't been quiet. Far from it."

Here's the link: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

If true, this could be one of the reasons Trump appears to be more sociopathic/psychopathic right now than usual. But again, this article is long on speculation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 01, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/'when-i-can-i-tell-the-truth'-trump-pushes-back-against-his-peddling-of-falsehoods/ar-BBPcEOG?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 02, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I think this psychopath actually wants a massacre.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/01/equating-rocks-with-rifles-trump-proposes-radical-new-rules-of-engagement-for-troops-along-border/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 03:24:45 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 02, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
I think this psychopath actually wants a massacre.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/01/equating-rocks-with-rifles-trump-proposes-radical-new-rules-of-engagement-for-troops-along-border/

Dude, it's scripted for a massacre.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 02, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
Trump is at the very least quite comfortable (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19701368/trump-civilian-casualties-syria-iraq/) with the idea of families being massacred.

QuoteLater, when the agency's head of drone operations explained that the CIA had developed special munitions to limit civilian casualties, the president seemed unimpressed. Watching a previously recorded strike in which the agency held off on firing until the target had wandered away from a house with his family inside, Trump asked, "Why did you wait?" one participant in the meeting recalled.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 02, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
Trump is at the very least quite comfortable (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19701368/trump-civilian-casualties-syria-iraq/) with the idea of families being massacred.

QuoteLater, when the agency's head of drone operations explained that the CIA had developed special munitions to limit civilian casualties, the president seemed unimpressed. Watching a previously recorded strike in which the agency held off on firing until the target had wandered away from a house with his family inside, Trump asked, "Why did you wait?" one participant in the meeting recalled.

There's nothing at all horribly fucking wrong with this guy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 02, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 02, 2018, 03:35:11 PM
Trump is at the very least quite comfortable (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19701368/trump-civilian-casualties-syria-iraq/) with the idea of families being massacred.

QuoteLater, when the agency's head of drone operations explained that the CIA had developed special munitions to limit civilian casualties, the president seemed unimpressed. Watching a previously recorded strike in which the agency held off on firing until the target had wandered away from a house with his family inside, Trump asked, "Why did you wait?" one participant in the meeting recalled.

And this just isn't theoretically, either.  Casualties from US bombing raids in Iraq and Syria against ISIS jumped massively after Trump took charge (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/30/us-coalition-airstrikes-iraqi-syrian-civilians).

QuoteAmnesty said as many as 5,805 civilians may have been killed by Iraqi forces and coalition strikes in the Mosul campaign between 19 February and 19 June this year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 02, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I sincerely want to move to a different planet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I sincerely want to move to a different planet.

Odds are, every other planet is full of dumbasses, too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 02, 2018, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I sincerely want to move to a different planet.

Odds are, every other planet is full of dumbasses, too.

I like the politics of Planet Transexual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 02, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I sincerely want to move to a different planet.

Odds are, every other planet is full of dumbasses, too.

I like the politics of Planet Transexual.

You just triggered Alex Jones (https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1058439421983383554/video/1?fbclid=IwAR1wzQcv8X9KvCc3YQENTx949gOV_1gXY16K3X1znCcQoOOgRj8B3mwyJqY)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 06, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
Posting to remind those of the US to vote
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 06, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 02, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 02, 2018, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 02, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
I sincerely want to move to a different planet.

Odds are, every other planet is full of dumbasses, too.

I like the politics of Planet Transexual.

You just triggered Alex Jones (https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1058439421983383554/video/1?fbclid=IwAR1wzQcv8X9KvCc3YQENTx949gOV_1gXY16K3X1znCcQoOOgRj8B3mwyJqY)

It's a hobby.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 02:58:59 AM
The only moral option given these election results is to burn the entire US and hope the next people to arrive do a better job. A lot of innocent people are going to be caught in the inferno, but there seems to be no hope for them anyway given the country isn't entirely disgusted by and unwilling to put up with the party of children in cages, legislating people to death, and monetizing human suffering. Maybe Belgium can fund the escape of everyone with a conscience or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 07, 2018, 03:15:24 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 02:58:59 AM
The only moral option given these election results is to burn the entire US and hope the next people to arrive do a better job. A lot of innocent people are going to be caught in the inferno, but there seems to be no hope for them anyway given the country isn't entirely disgusted by and unwilling to put up with the party of children in cages, legislating people to death, and monetizing human suffering. Maybe Belgium can fund the escape of everyone with a conscience or something.

Whoa, easy there with the acceptable collateral damage, cowboy. What are you, Donald Rumsfield or something?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 03:21:49 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 02:58:59 AM
The only moral option given these election results is to burn the entire US and hope the next people to arrive do a better job. A lot of innocent people are going to be caught in the inferno, but there seems to be no hope for them anyway given the country isn't entirely disgusted by and unwilling to put up with the party of children in cages, legislating people to death, and monetizing human suffering. Maybe Belgium can fund the escape of everyone with a conscience or something.

You expressed horror at eleven people being shot in Pittsburgh, yet now you easily sentence 300 million to being burned to death, and declare this to be moral.

I don't think you and I are going to be friends.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 03:27:31 AM
That was an extreme exaggeration, which has been a thing in these parts for a very long time from what I know. Apologies that I wasn't entirely clear that that wasn't a literal statement of my beliefs.

EDIT: I am genuinely pretty alarmed that this was mistaken for a serious statement, thinking it over. I cannot understand how the mistake was made, considering that it's completely inconsistent with all of the values outlined in the post itself and with those I've espoused prior. The only sort of person who could seriously say such a thing is an absolute monster by any sane standards.

I can't believe I have to say this but, uh, I DON'T SUPPORT GENOCIDE. Christ.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 07, 2018, 03:54:26 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 03:27:31 AM
That was an extreme exaggeration, which has been a thing in these parts for a very long time from what I know. Apologies that I wasn't entirely clear that that wasn't a literal statement of my beliefs.

EDIT: I am genuinely pretty alarmed that this was mistaken for a serious statement, thinking it over. I cannot understand how the mistake was made, considering that it's completely inconsistent with all of the values outlined in the post itself and with those I've espoused prior. The only sort of person who could seriously say such a thing is an absolute monster by any sane standards.

I can't believe I have to say this but, uh, I DON'T SUPPORT GENOCIDE. Christ.

There's maybe three newsfeed worthy statements here. Well done!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 07, 2018, 03:56:03 AM
Spirits run high
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 07, 2018, 04:05:55 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 03:27:31 AM
That was an extreme exaggeration, which has been a thing in these parts for a very long time from what I know. Apologies that I wasn't entirely clear that that wasn't a literal statement of my beliefs.

EDIT: I am genuinely pretty alarmed that this was mistaken for a serious statement, thinking it over. I cannot understand how the mistake was made, considering that it's completely inconsistent with all of the values outlined in the post itself and with those I've espoused prior. The only sort of person who could seriously say such a thing is an absolute monster by any sane standards.

I can't believe I have to say this but, uh, I DON'T SUPPORT GENOCIDE. Christ.


It's not genocide if it's an "Act of God".

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 04:13:21 AM
How about this: I would rather minimize human death and suffering in general. Does that better capture my meaning here than simply "opposition to genocide"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 04:15:53 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 03:27:31 AM
That was an extreme exaggeration, which has been a thing in these parts for a very long time from what I know. Apologies that I wasn't entirely clear that that wasn't a literal statement of my beliefs.

EDIT: I am genuinely pretty alarmed that this was mistaken for a serious statement, thinking it over. I cannot understand how the mistake was made, considering that it's completely inconsistent with all of the values outlined in the post itself and with those I've espoused prior. The only sort of person who could seriously say such a thing is an absolute monster by any sane standards.

I can't believe I have to say this but, uh, I DON'T SUPPORT GENOCIDE. Christ.
:lulz:

Hi.

Let me tell you about myself.

My hobbies include applying an absurdly literal interpretation to statements (sometimes for comedic effect, sometimes just to be annoying), and poking at people when they've dropped their guard, just to see what happens.  I also have a propensity to pounce whenever I perceive a hint of inconsistency.

Thank you for making this entertaining.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 04:21:19 AM
Sorry. I'm under a pretty large amount of stress currently between personal life and the political Hindenburg we have going on, so I'm rather more fragile than I'd like to be.

Even if I wasn't, I apparently have a knack for making ambiguous statements and having no capability for making it clear when I'm serious or not, offline and on. So it was kind of an existing exposed nerve anyhow.

Glad you enjoyed yourself at least.

Edit: Belatedly realized I should clarify: that's not a sarcastic response in the least. It's better someone got some entertainment out of a basically harmless act than everyone involved feeling like an awkward, guilty asshole.

This way it's just me feeling that way, and that's basically my default state.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
I am in Team Burn It All Down at the moment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 07, 2018, 05:53:52 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
I am in Team Burn It All Down at the moment.

You were hoping for more?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 04:13:21 AM
How about this: I would rather minimize human death and suffering in general. Does that better capture my meaning here than simply "opposition to genocide"?

Technically the most lasting and effective way to do that would to be to kill everything and end the cycle
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 07, 2018, 09:08:34 AM
So what can the democrats do now that they have the house, and what did they miss out on by not getting the senate?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
No Senate means impeachment is definitively off the table - it was always unlikely, with the required number of votes for it to be passed, but without majorities in both it's a non-starter.

With the House, the Democrats can, if they so choose*, completely stymie Trump's legislative agenda for the next two years.  Any legislation that needs to be passed will now require a Democratic vote to be passed, and that would allow for concessions to be wrangled.

They also control the committees, which means they can launch more investigations into Trump**.  In particular, Devin Nunes has been voted out, and Adam Schiff, who I believe is projected to win his Congressional race, will be the new Chair of the Permanent House Intelligence Committee.  Schiff has been pretty tough on Trump and Russia in the past, I'd be surprised to see him slow down now.


*Pelosi, though.
** See above
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 12:53:03 PM
The most entertaining move would be to subpoena his tax returns.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 07, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Ah ok, the legislation hamstring is a good win. What I am hoping for is that he gets frustrated with blocks and amendments, tries something stupid with executive orders and gets into hot water.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 04:21:19 AM
Sorry. I'm under a pretty large amount of stress currently between personal life and the political Hindenburg we have going on, so I'm rather more fragile than I'd like to be.

Even if I wasn't, I apparently have a knack for making ambiguous statements and having no capability for making it clear when I'm serious or not, offline and on. So it was kind of an existing exposed nerve anyhow.

Glad you enjoyed yourself at least.

Edit: Belatedly realized I should clarify: that's not a sarcastic response in the least. It's better someone got some entertainment out of a basically harmless act than everyone involved feeling like an awkward, guilty asshole.

This way it's just me feeling that way, and that's basically my default state.

Stop taking yourself so seriously, and try to have a good time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
I am in Team Burn It All Down at the moment.

Is it time for chlorine trifluoride, yet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
I am in Team Burn It All Down at the moment.

Is it time for chlorine trifluoride, yet?

I'm pretty sure they filled my swimming pool with the stuff this morning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
Trump is calling the election outcome a "Big Victory".  Now I'm confused.  I mean, more than usual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
He's gaslighting himself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 03:04:15 PM
Well, the dead pimp won, and isn't that what's important?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dead-brothel-owner-wins-election-for-nevada-legislative-seat/ar-BBPrhdN?ocid=spartanntp

QuoteHis body was discovered by porn actor Ron Jeremy and a prostitute at the brothel.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 07, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
You jest but I can think of many many pro's of having a dead pimp republican as a senator over other republican senators
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
Dead Pimp 2020: He wont be grabbing anyone by the pussy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 04:45:02 PM
This is a win for diversity.   Dead voters need representation too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 07, 2018, 05:14:23 PM
Never occurred to me a pimp woulf be a republican, but I suppose they are the ultinate capitalists when it comes down to it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 07, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
You jest but I can think of many many pro's of having a dead pimp republican as a senator over other republican senators

I agree. I'd be much less averse to voting for a dead republican than for a living one. As long as they don't go ahead and replace him with someone who's still alive he might even be better than a democrat

EDIT:

I'd put the heirarchy of leadership quality as follows:

Republicans<Libertarians<Democrats<Dead people, animals, major appliances, and the Green Party

Dying moves him from the worst category to the best one
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 07, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
Trump is calling the election outcome a "Big Victory".  Now I'm confused.  I mean, more than usual.

Maybe he expected to lose the senate as well?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 07, 2018, 06:22:32 PM
It wasn't the "Blue Wave" I was holding out hope for months ago, but it met my lowered expectations for the night. We made some gains in the Governors, as well. I believe governors get to define the districts in their respective states, which could come in handy in 2020.

Here in TN, of course, we didn't get shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 05:58:10 PM

Republicans<Libertarians<Democrats<Dead people, animals, major appliances, and the Green Party


My math skills might not be what they once were, but are you saying the Green Party is most preferable to you?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
Sessions was just fired.

Everyone is saying he resigned, and that is technically true, but Trump asked him to resign, according to his resignation letter.  So....fired.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
That sounds ominous.  Should that sound ominous?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 07, 2018, 07:59:41 PM
He warned on Twitter this morning that people who didn't work with him would be gone soon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:10:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
That sounds ominous.  Should that sound ominous?

Trump is moving on Mueller.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:12:13 PM
Also this:

QuoteTrump suggested there could be room for bipartisanship, declaring that Democrats — who made opposing him a centerpiece to their campaign — would, in fact, be eager to work with him on issues like infrastructure. But the olive branch he extended was studded with thorns as he declared that Republicans would retaliate if Democrats use their control of the House to issue subpoenas to seek his tax returns and investigate his business dealings, his Cabinet's conduct and his campaign's ties to Russia.

"They can play that game, but we can play it better. Because we have a thing called the United States Senate," Trump said. "If that happens, then we're going to do the same thing and government would come to a halt and we're going to blame them."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-celebrates-gop-gains-threatens-house-democrats/ar-BBPrYxu?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
AND this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-accuses-black-reporter-of-asking-racist-question/ar-BBPseLe?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
AND THEN THIS BULLSHIT HAPPENED

QuoteIn addition to pledging to protect health care, Pelosi said Democrats would seek common ground with Republicans "when we can" and stand their ground when necessary.

She spoke with Republican Mitch McConnell, the Senate leader, on Wednesday morning about areas where the two parties could find common ground, such as infrastructure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-democrats-won-us-house-on-health-care/ar-BBPs3jN?ocid=spartanntp

I am absolutely not surprised, but still pissed off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:15:36 PM
And then more screeching hypocrisy:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-presidential-harassment-may-not-be-a-good-strategy-for-house-democrats/ar-BBPrSPy?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 08:20:30 PM
I guess my joke about lighting the USA on fire is irrelevant, as the Grand Old Party is doing a splendid job burning the fucking country to the ground without any urging from people on a near abandoned forum.

Bets on how long Mueller lasts?

And I suppose I should add: bets on time till Civil War II? At this time it seems certain, not potential.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.  You may recall the Senate Republicans said there "would be hell to pay" if Sessions was fired...I don't know how much faith I put in their statements myself, so I wouldn't necessarily rely on that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.  You may recall the Senate Republicans said there "would be hell to pay" if Sessions was fired...I don't know how much faith I put in their statements myself, so I wouldn't necessarily rely on that.

After last night, from this point forward, they are going to do whatever Trump tells them to do.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
If they haven't already begun to yell and scream, they near certainly won't — save maybe a couple individuals who have no real impact (a la Flake, McCain, etc).

I can't see the Senate turning on Trump this late in the game, with as poor a playing field as they have for their own party as is. If they had an unquestionable win, I think they MIGHT clean up, but they did not.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
Apparently Rosenstein went to the White House just now?https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1060275012719050759?s=20
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.

You might want to reconsider.

https://apple.news/AwegbHanFRjCZh4d8O9bang

EDIT: To be clear, this isn't saying you're wrong in a de jure sense. It's just noting we all haven't quite gotten used to the clear fact that the law isn't exactly stopping anyone in this administration from doing whatever the hell they want.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 05:58:10 PM

Republicans<Libertarians<Democrats<Dead people, animals, major appliances, and the Green Party


My math skills might not be what they once were, but are you saying the Green Party is most preferable to you?

Technically a tie for first place between the Green Party, dead people, and inanimate objects
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 07, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 07, 2018, 05:58:10 PM

Republicans<Libertarians<Democrats<Dead people, animals, major appliances, and the Green Party


My math skills might not be what they once were, but are you saying the Green Party is most preferable to you?

Technically a tie for first place between the Green Party, dead people, and inanimate objects

Eat a bag of dicks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.

You might want to reconsider.

https://apple.news/AwegbHanFRjCZh4d8O9bang

EDIT: To be clear, this isn't saying you're wrong in a de jure sense. It's just noting we all haven't quite gotten used to the clear fact that the law isn't exactly stopping anyone in this administration from doing whatever the hell they want.

Very much this.  Trump now absolutely owns the republican party, the court is stacked, the senate is effectively deep red, and any kind of impeachment is going to die in the water.

Checks and balances are no longer a thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
Bets on which position Hannity is going to be offered?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:23:18 PM
In theory, Trump could still potentially make a move so abhorrent that all the Republicans would rise up against him.

In theory.

In practice, if they didn't throw him out on his ass after Charlottesville or publicly labeling himself a nationalist, I can't think of anything he couldn't get away with, especially given he now owns every Republican ass in the same way that a person owns their pet dog.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:24:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
Bets on which position Hannity is going to be offered?  :lulz:

The Trump administration runs on inverse meritocracy, so he'll get something particularly high level. Perhaps Attorney General.

I'm not joking.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:25:13 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-just-seized-the-reins-on-the-mueller-probe/ar-BBPsgr7?ocid=spartanntp

WHAT I SAID.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.

You might want to reconsider.

https://apple.news/AwegbHanFRjCZh4d8O9bang

EDIT: To be clear, this isn't saying you're wrong in a de jure sense. It's just noting we all haven't quite gotten used to the clear fact that the law isn't exactly stopping anyone in this administration from doing whatever the hell they want.

Yeah, you're not wrong at all on that score.  I'm actually not sure what the legal position is on this, but it would not at all suprise me if they just ignored it entirely to do what they wanted.

Of course, there is another option too

Quote"So I could see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced with a recess appointment," Whitaker said, "and that attorney general doesn't fire Bob Mueller, but he just reduces his budget to so low that his investigation grinds to almost a halt."

Who said that? Just the guy who is now Acting Attorney-General.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:44:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Well, the Acting Attorney General doesn't like Mueller much, but I believe a permanent replacement has to be approved by the Senate before they can interfere.

You might want to reconsider.

https://apple.news/AwegbHanFRjCZh4d8O9bang

EDIT: To be clear, this isn't saying you're wrong in a de jure sense. It's just noting we all haven't quite gotten used to the clear fact that the law isn't exactly stopping anyone in this administration from doing whatever the hell they want.

Yeah, you're not wrong at all on that score.  I'm actually not sure what the legal position is on this, but it would not at all suprise me if they just ignored it entirely to do what they wanted.

Of course, there is another option too

Quote"So I could see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced with a recess appointment," Whitaker said, "and that attorney general doesn't fire Bob Mueller, but he just reduces his budget to so low that his investigation grinds to almost a halt."

Who said that? Just the guy who is now Acting Attorney-General.

Yep.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 09:47:08 PM
NBC's now reporting Rosenstein has been taken off the Mueller investigation
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 09:47:08 PM
NBC's now reporting Rosenstein has been taken off the Mueller investigation

dun DUN DUNNNNNN
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:54:48 PM
And thus we enter the End Times, as the rule of law crashes into the abyss and we are left with an unstable child ruling an autocracy of fear and hate.

In any other timeline, the above would be the end of the first book in a trilogy of unoriginal young adult fantasy novels. Here, it's a legitimate statement of the world we live in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lock-her-up-sessions-interim-replacement-said-there-was-strong-case-to-bring-against-hillary-clinton/ar-BBPsrRM?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/schumer-warns-of-constitutional-crisis-after-ag-exit/ar-BBPsrfW?ocid=spartanntp

A little late now, you invertebrate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
It keeps getting fucking worse.

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/1060277899763351560?s=20
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
It keeps getting fucking worse.

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/1060277899763351560?s=20

How is this any kind of surprise?  This is the new normal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 10:04:01 PM
Oh, absolutely.

That it happened is expected but reinforces that famous quote from Goethe's Faust as it applies to our current reality. My reaction is not surprise, merely impotent outrage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 10:08:02 PM
Whitaker is just the worst in every sense

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrbmOr9U8AANSgc.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
I seem to remember Cain calling this one:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russia-is-surprise-beneficiary-of-iran-oil-ban/ar-BBPrVKG?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1060273029056524288?s=20
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 10:34:55 PM
Wednesday Night Massacre. I'm calling it now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 10:52:51 PM
And the walkback has begun.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pentagon-drops-faithful-patriot-moniker-for-mexico-border-mission/ar-BBPs1PI?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2018, 11:13:40 PM
This is one of those days where once the bad news stops coming I start getting incredibly nervous.

I keep refreshing but the horror stays maddeningly an hour or so old!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2018, 11:32:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
I seem to remember Cain calling this one:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russia-is-surprise-beneficiary-of-iran-oil-ban/ar-BBPrVKG?ocid=spartanntp

China will be in there too, just not as overtly or deeply.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 12:23:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2018, 11:32:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
I seem to remember Cain calling this one:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russia-is-surprise-beneficiary-of-iran-oil-ban/ar-BBPrVKG?ocid=spartanntp

China will be in there too, just not as overtly or deeply.

Yep.

Calling it now:  Hannity will be made AG.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 01:08:11 AM
I realise this may be a stupid question, but is there no requirement to be a lawyer to be Attorney-General?

In other news, Nazis got shown around (https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-white-nationalist-leader-just-posted-pics-from-his-white-house-visit) the White House:

QuoteThe leader of a white nationalist group whose members marched in the 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville visited the White House on Wednesday, according to pictures he posted online.

Patrick Casey, who heads the group Identity Evropa, posted the pictures to Twitter, in which he is seen posing on the White House grounds on what he described as a visit to "pay my respects."

"Evropa has landed at the White House!" Casey tweeted.

Three sources familiar with how the Trump White House operates tell The Daily Beast that Casey could not have reached the location directly in front of the White House's south front by himself or on a common tour. Casey, the sources said, likely would have had to be escorted by a Trump administration staffer wearing an official badge to get that kind of access.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 08, 2018, 02:32:51 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 08, 2018, 01:08:11 AM
I realise this may be a stupid question, but is there no requirement to be a lawyer to be Attorney-General?

That presumes Trump cares about requirements anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 08, 2018, 02:53:46 AM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Tuesday's election results. So, what did we win long term?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 04:57:29 AM
Pelosi of course already stuck her tongue up Trump's ass.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 04:58:13 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 08, 2018, 02:53:46 AM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Tuesday's election results. So, what did we win long term?

Nancy "Quisling" Pelosi as Speaker.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 08, 2018, 06:39:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 04:58:13 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 08, 2018, 02:53:46 AM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Tuesday's election results. So, what did we win long term?

Nancy "Quisling" Pelosi as Speaker.

That's about it, yep.

Unfortunately, even if the House Dems grew spines it would be far too late at this point. Since Trump is just going to boot or berate into leaving anyone with a conscience in the DOJ, checks and balances are gone. With a partisan Senate, a partisan DOJ, and a Supreme Leader type figure heading the executive branch, the House is powerless.

They can do whatever they want, but short of actively storming the Capitol with weaponry, it needn't have any effect.

Consider for instance that they might possibly stall any new legislative agenda the right wants dead in the water. Consider then that with a partisan DOJ, Trump can sign executive orders and have the DOJ say that's as good as law. The Senate has "sole power to try all impeachments", so the House writing up articles of impeachment for the flagrant abuse of power is as useless as can be. The DOJ being stacked with toadies means that it, which would normally be the firm hand stopping such an over reach of power, would instead be used to back it up.

The Constitution is now meaningless.

But hey, we have a House of Representatives who are entirely impotent spineless bootlickers or impotent spineless whiners —er, I mean who are largely Democratic Party, and thus left of, say, Benito politically.

They're also willing to kowtow to the big man so history will remember them as having been nice while the jackboots trod on our throats.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 08, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
I have to wonder, what was Trumps original plan, and what is it now?

There was a theory that he never meant to actually win, just come as close as he could without winning, all just so he could boost his brand.

But whether or not that was the original plan, what is his game now? Is it just to rack up emoluments, and butter up Putin to give him an advantage in his real estate ventures in Russia, or is this some kind of Oceans 11 type scheme featuring the 1% of the 1% of the 1% to steal the entire American and/or global economy and put it all in their pockets, and Trump is their George Clooney?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 08, 2018, 09:26:34 AM
I thought he liked people who DIDN'T get caught!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-acting-attorney-general-was-part-of-firm-us-accused-of-vast-scam/ar-BBPsvmQ?li=BBnb7Kz
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 10:52:33 AM
I don't think Adam Schiff as chair of the House Intelligence should be discounted so quickly.  I actually don't think he would stand down even if Pelosi asked him to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 08, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 08, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
I have to wonder, what was Trumps original plan, and what is it now?
Plan?  I thought he was just making it up as he went along.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 08, 2018, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lock-her-up-sessions-interim-replacement-said-there-was-strong-case-to-bring-against-hillary-clinton/ar-BBPsrRM?ocid=spartanntp

That's cool -- It means that he would 100% bring charges against the majority of Trump's team, since they've been doing the exact same thing since the election.

Right?






Right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 08, 2018, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 08, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
I have to wonder, what was Trumps original plan, and what is it now?
Plan?  I thought he was just making it up as he went along.

Emo Howard is right, in that a lot of the people around Trump, and probably Trump himself at the start, wanted to use the election to create a new conservative media network.

At some point, probably after Trump won the primary, he started huffing his own farts.  A lot of the people around him did not though, and were still on for the original plan.

Now though...Trump has no clue what he's doing.  He never expected to be in this situation, and he doesn't have the expertise or skill to carry out what he wants (and he refuses to listen to those few around him who do have the experience and skills).

So he lashes out on Twitter, spends time in the Oval Office watching "Fox and Friends" and bitching on his unsecured phone to his remaining friends about how unfair it all is, and does whatever sounds like a good idea from whatever goblin is whispering in his ear that day, whether it's Miller or Bolton or Gorka (Katherine, not Seb).

And of course he wants to stay out of jail.  That's about it.  The masterplan is that there is no masterplan, that Trump is pathologically adverse to planning, or even listening to the advice of people capable of planning.  He just wants to stay out of jail really badly, and whatever poison has been fed to him by the last person speaking to him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 08, 2018, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 08, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
I have to wonder, what was Trumps original plan, and what is it now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmkRi_tr9c#t=00m50s
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 08, 2018, 05:39:03 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/11/08/white-house-shares-doctored-video-support-punishment-journalist-jim-acosta/?fbclid=IwAR2XwFlQfWgGMi48lP3HCDag7iOCrhNNBjfwjKVez9MeJW2dWDX-ZXzVbqc&utm_term=.9114b3cb6175

Jim Acosta had a heated exchange with Trump, had his press pass revoked, and then the administration lied about him getting handsy with a staffer.

Here's side by side comparison of the original footage and the doctored footage released by the White House.


These are dark times, this seriously disturbs me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 05:46:34 PM
The doctored footage came from Infowars
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 08, 2018, 05:59:13 PM
thank God Pelosi's searching for "common ground"

hoping she finds it:
(https://www.everplans.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_header_image/public/cemetery-plot-main_0.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 06:12:24 PM
Compromise: they're only making some of the fricking frogs gay, and only some children deserve to be locked up in desert prison camps
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 09:07:33 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-conway-trump-replacing-sessions-with-whitaker-is-illegal/ar-BBPuqLa?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2018, 10:08:22 PM
There seems to be a solid legal argument (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/opinion/trump-attorney-general-sessions-unconstitutional.html?fbclid=IwAR0vM7dG9fpBuqqbh-geP7oeG6hPB4hVFKXWaQSvF4tJHtwkC1pWcPWTocY#click=https://t.co/1QpvgtLVX1) for this:

QuoteIf you don't believe us, then take it from Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, whom President Trump once called his "favorite" sitting justice. Last year, the Supreme Court examined the question of whether the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board had been lawfully appointed to his job without Senate confirmation. The Supreme Court held the appointment invalid on a statutory ground.

Justice Thomas agreed with the judgment, but wrote separately to emphasize that even if the statute had allowed the appointment, the Constitution's Appointments Clause would not have. The officer in question was a principal officer, he concluded. And the public interest protected by the Appointments Clause was a critical one: The Constitution's drafters, Justice Thomas argued, "recognized the serious risk for abuse and corruption posed by permitting one person to fill every office in the government." Which is why, he pointed out, the framers provided for advice and consent of the Senate.

What goes for a mere lawyer at the N.L.R.B. goes in spades for the attorney general of the United States, the head of the Justice Department and one of the most important people in the federal government. It is one thing to appoint an acting underling, like an acting solicitor general, a post one of us held. But those officials are always supervised by higher-ups; in the case of the solicitor general, by the attorney general and deputy attorney general, both confirmed by the Senate.

Mr. Whitaker has not been named to some junior post one or two levels below the Justice Department's top job. He has now been vested with the law enforcement authority of the entire United States government, including the power to supervise Senate-confirmed officials like the deputy attorney general, the solicitor general and all United States attorneys.

We cannot tolerate such an evasion of the Constitution's very explicit, textually precise design. Senate confirmation exists for a simple, and good, reason. Constitutionally, Matthew Whitaker is a nobody. His job as Mr. Sessions's chief of staff did not require Senate confirmation. (Yes, he was confirmed as a federal prosecutor in Iowa, in 2004, but President Trump can't cut and paste that old, lapsed confirmation to today.) For the president to install Mr. Whitaker as our chief law enforcement officer is to betray the entire structure of our charter document.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2018, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 08, 2018, 10:08:22 PM
There seems to be a solid legal argument (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/opinion/trump-attorney-general-sessions-unconstitutional.html?fbclid=IwAR0vM7dG9fpBuqqbh-geP7oeG6hPB4hVFKXWaQSvF4tJHtwkC1pWcPWTocY#click=https://t.co/1QpvgtLVX1) for this:

QuoteIf you don't believe us, then take it from Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, whom President Trump once called his "favorite" sitting justice. Last year, the Supreme Court examined the question of whether the general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board had been lawfully appointed to his job without Senate confirmation. The Supreme Court held the appointment invalid on a statutory ground.

Justice Thomas agreed with the judgment, but wrote separately to emphasize that even if the statute had allowed the appointment, the Constitution's Appointments Clause would not have. The officer in question was a principal officer, he concluded. And the public interest protected by the Appointments Clause was a critical one: The Constitution's drafters, Justice Thomas argued, "recognized the serious risk for abuse and corruption posed by permitting one person to fill every office in the government." Which is why, he pointed out, the framers provided for advice and consent of the Senate.

What goes for a mere lawyer at the N.L.R.B. goes in spades for the attorney general of the United States, the head of the Justice Department and one of the most important people in the federal government. It is one thing to appoint an acting underling, like an acting solicitor general, a post one of us held. But those officials are always supervised by higher-ups; in the case of the solicitor general, by the attorney general and deputy attorney general, both confirmed by the Senate.

Mr. Whitaker has not been named to some junior post one or two levels below the Justice Department's top job. He has now been vested with the law enforcement authority of the entire United States government, including the power to supervise Senate-confirmed officials like the deputy attorney general, the solicitor general and all United States attorneys.

We cannot tolerate such an evasion of the Constitution's very explicit, textually precise design. Senate confirmation exists for a simple, and good, reason. Constitutionally, Matthew Whitaker is a nobody. His job as Mr. Sessions's chief of staff did not require Senate confirmation. (Yes, he was confirmed as a federal prosecutor in Iowa, in 2004, but President Trump can't cut and paste that old, lapsed confirmation to today.) For the president to install Mr. Whitaker as our chief law enforcement officer is to betray the entire structure of our charter document.

Well, yeah.  This is a mobster-move.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/matthew-whitaker-mueller's-new-boss-said-there-was-'no-collusion'-with-russia/ar-BBPuE7C?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 09, 2018, 12:47:33 PM
There is gonna be some amazingly weird case law that law students will by studying in a few years because of all this, if SCOTUS rules against the NLRB but ruling for Whitaker.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 11, 2018, 05:41:19 PM
Trump Whines About Veterans Getting Shelter As He Gets Wet In France

As per the article:

'Speaking in France to recognize the fallen heroes of World War I at the Suresnes cemetery a day after he skipped – because of the rain- a commemorative event attended by other world leaders, Trump complained that the veterans, who sat underneath a tent to stay dry, looked comfortable while we are "drenched."'

And, the article goes further to say:

'Trump's 2018 budget proposal called for cuts in benefits to veterans with 60 percent disability ratings who lived alone, but this has been abandoned, which Snopes noted meant, "(D)isabled veterans could have seen their annual disability benefits fall from around $35,000 to around $13,000 under Donald Trump's budget proposal to cut "individual unemployability" for disabled veterans who were old enough to receive Social Security payments."'

Here's the link: https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/11/trump-whines-about-veterans-getting-shelter-as-he-gets-wet-in-france.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2018, 03:21:13 AM
Maybe he could have gone if he didn't just throw his umbrella on the ground before getting on Air Force 1 the other week.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 12, 2018, 07:09:35 AM
Hey, so now we've got an actual comic book villain, Wilson Fisk, as our acting Attorney General!

How cool is that?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 12, 2018, 09:24:13 AM
Hey now, Wilson Fisk was a man of culture with good intentions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 12, 2018, 01:14:36 PM
Want a moderate, centrist voice that unlike other candidates in this election, his criminal enterprises are both successful and not blatantly in your face?
Vote Kingpin.

Kingpin - Dead Pimp 2020
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 12, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
Ever know a guy that lays awake at night trying to think of ways to hurt folks for being brown?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-wants-to-end-federal-relief-money-for-puerto-rico-report/ar-BBPBl14?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 12, 2018, 08:54:45 PM
White House confirms Trump will not visit Arlington cemetery on Veterans Day as rain is expected

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/white-house-confirms-trump-will-not-visit-arlington-cemetery-veterans-day-rain-expected/


I think I know why.

https://youtu.be/aopdD9Cu-So (https://youtu.be/aopdD9Cu-So)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 03:39:51 PM
Another day, another disgrace.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-suggests-france-would-have-been-defeated-without-us/ar-BBPETUz?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2018, 05:13:36 PM
So, there might be something going on.

FOX News' Twitter account has been silent the last two days.  This silence has coincided with tamping down on the MAGA crazy and a visit from Murdoch to McConnell.  Giuliani has been quiet for the same period of time.  Wikileaks, Drudge and National Enquirer have also gone quiet, not tweeting in several days or, in the case of Drudge, completely scrubbing their account.

This is all happening the same time period that Trump is having his weird "can't be bothered to do Veterans Day" thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2018, 05:16:19 PM
(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45941367_1916486371720843_1384570539946803200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent.flcy1-1.fna&oh=850b3488736d2483ff26d93b76daece5&oe=5C679658)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on November 13, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 03:39:51 PM
Another day, another disgrace.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-suggests-france-would-have-been-defeated-without-us/ar-BBPETUz?ocid=spartanntp

France WAS defeated in WWII, partly because the US refused to get involved, mind you, their partisans were a vital part of the eventual victory.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on November 13, 2018, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 03:39:51 PM
Another day, another disgrace.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-suggests-france-would-have-been-defeated-without-us/ar-BBPETUz?ocid=spartanntp

President Trump then went for a walk in Lafayette Square it ensure that irony was dead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 13, 2018, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 13, 2018, 05:13:36 PM
So, there might be something going on.

FOX News' Twitter account has been silent the last two days.  This silence has coincided with tamping down on the MAGA crazy and a visit from Murdoch to McConnell.  Giuliani has been quiet for the same period of time.  Wikileaks, Drudge and National Enquirer have also gone quiet, not tweeting in several days or, in the case of Drudge, completely scrubbing their account.

This is all happening the same time period that Trump is having his weird "can't be bothered to do Veterans Day" thing.

Well, I'm now very worried.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Supposedly, Fox is boycotting Twitter over the handling of the doxxing of Tucker Carlson, and the resulting protest at his house.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 13, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
An odd sort of boycott, since Fox is so far silent on the subject, and we hear of it only from third parties.

What's the point of a boycott if you don't tell anyone?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
And Fox's usual MO is to whine and play the victim.

I've seen speculation that it is Mueller-linked, but people are always saying that about everything.  On the other hand, Mifsud, the missing professor, has suddenly reappeared and wants to testify to the Senate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2018, 08:11:32 PM
I've suspected that this so-called "Antifa Attack" was staged, as I also suspect many others to be. Getting attacked by Antifa is an easy way for people on the right, (or alt-right) to beef up their street cred.

Why in the world wouldn't they just hire some guys in balaclavas to come yell at and/or attack them? Journalistic integrity?  :whack:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2018, 08:27:34 PM
Well, Tucker's reporting of the incident differs quite significantly from the police report....
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2018, 08:36:35 PM
(https://scontent.flcy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46074294_10156009718215678_4353061921293860864_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.flcy1-1.fna&oh=f9721102e776d4e750c9b006536142fe&oe=5C749E96)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
Wasn't Guiliani ranting something about how Obama should try to be as presidential as Trump?

Or was that just something he said to a random reporter?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 10:18:20 PM
More shameless bullshit:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-white-house-is-changing-its-tune-on-why-it-yanked-jim-acosta's-press-pass/ar-BBPFHs9?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 10:58:14 PM
Well, this is interesting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mueller-seeking-more-details-on-nigel-farage-key-russia-inquiry-target-says/ar-BBPFCP9?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2018, 10:59:18 PM
I mean, everyone knows that Farage is a shitty little punk, but the idea that's he's an actual traitor to the crown is kinda fun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 14, 2018, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 13, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
And Fox's usual MO is to whine and play the victim.

I've seen speculation that it is Mueller-linked, but people are always saying that about everything.  On the other hand, Mifsud, the missing professor, has suddenly reappeared and wants to testify to the Senate.

This sounds much bigger then it initially would appear: their entire bread and butter is maintaining a direct rapport with their audience.The only thing that would make them silent is some kind of legal ugliness and not just a gag order and subpoena because Fox would relish the thought of violating that and paying the contempt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 14, 2018, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 13, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
And Fox's usual MO is to whine and play the victim.

I've seen speculation that it is Mueller-linked, but people are always saying that about everything.  On the other hand, Mifsud, the missing professor, has suddenly reappeared and wants to testify to the Senate.

This sounds much bigger then it initially would appear: their entire bread and butter is maintaining a direct rapport with their audience.The only thing that would make them silent is some kind of legal ugliness and not just a gag order and subpoena because Fox would relish the thought of violating that and paying the contempt.

I see a Mueller-shaped empty spot in Fox.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
It's really weird.  I'm not one to automatically assume Mueller, especially when hashtagTheResistance are all parroting the same thing....but the Russia probe, conservative and social media do seem to be common factors among these people who have been quiet of late.  Kim Dotcom, who keeps on claiming he knows passed on the info to Assange and it wasn't the GRU (because there's no way the GRU would ever use cut-outs) is another curiously silent party.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 14, 2018, 05:46:02 PM
Fox is getting increasingly weird as fuck.

https://apple.news/AePHEV5XHQwC3hrRprOU5pw

They were the FIRST legal supporters of this, apparently. And they managed to do it without too much blatant frantic ass covering for their followers, check the quote for yourself:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/531787119abbf6f15c970f09cc83b0f4.jpg)

That's less latter-day Fox News and more 2006 CNN.

I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 04:33:04 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-mueller-investigators-have-gone-absolutely-nuts-are-a-disgrace-to-our-nation/ar-BBPJYIN?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
Yes, I saw that.  My feed is full of Brexit and Yemen and Saudi panic, and then Trump's petulant whining suddenly came through.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 15, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
Don Jr's indictment, perhaps?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 15, 2018, 06:35:40 PM
Fox News still has not tweeted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 15, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
Don Jr's indictment, perhaps?

Probably the list of written questions Trump was handed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 15, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
WTF is up with his Antifa obsession?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/416750-trump-warns-antifa-opposition-to-you-could-be-tougher-and-much-more

Quote"[Antifa] better hope that the other side doesn't mobilize," Trump concluded, "Because if you look, the other side, it's the military. It's the police. It's a lot of very strong, a lot of very tough people. Tougher than them. And smarter than them."

"They're sitting back and watching and they're getting angrier and angrier," Trump said of the Antifa opposition.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 15, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
WTF is up with his Antifa obsession?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/416750-trump-warns-antifa-opposition-to-you-could-be-tougher-and-much-more

Quote"[Antifa] better hope that the other side doesn't mobilize," Trump concluded, "Because if you look, the other side, it's the military. It's the police. It's a lot of very strong, a lot of very tough people. Tougher than them. And smarter than them."

"They're sitting back and watching and they're getting angrier and angrier," Trump said of the Antifa opposition.

Trump is desperate for a distraction.  ANY distraction.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 15, 2018, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 15, 2018, 06:55:05 PM
WTF is up with his Antifa obsession?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/416750-trump-warns-antifa-opposition-to-you-could-be-tougher-and-much-more

Quote"[Antifa] better hope that the other side doesn't mobilize," Trump concluded, "Because if you look, the other side, it's the military. It's the police. It's a lot of very strong, a lot of very tough people. Tougher than them. And smarter than them."

"They're sitting back and watching and they're getting angrier and angrier," Trump said of the Antifa opposition.

Trump is desperate for a distraction.  ANY distraction.

I bet he's jealous of Bush 2, and that awesome September he had right at the beginning of his first term. Some people have all the luck.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 15, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.


The U.S. military is sitting back, just getting angrier and angrier at Antifa! One of these days they just aren't going to be able to take it any more and are going to mobilize and move in on them. Because that's how the military works in America. They just sit around waiting to get mad enough about something, and then attack Americans on American soil. Yep! That's how we do!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on November 15, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.


The U.S. military is sitting back, just getting angrier and angrier at Antifa! One of these days they just aren't going to be able to take it any more and are going to mobilize and move in on them. Because that's how the military works in America. They just sit around waiting to get mad enough about something, and then attack Americans on American soil. Yep! That's how we do!

*looks at the post-civil war Westward expansion*

It in fact is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.

He is basically a machine for metabolizing cocaine.  There will be no Nobels this year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 15, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.

He is basically a machine for metabolizing cocaine.  There will be no Nobels this year.

Lots of political dumpster fires to take the place of Yule logs for un-American Americans though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 15, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.

yeah in a previous era, other people might have said to him JESUS FUCK, DON'T EXPLAIN IT LIKE THAT

but ahhhh, fuck it, it's all out in the open now
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 15, 2018, 09:39:14 PM
I've gotta say, it's getting interesting. Last week this shit was entirely predictable, and now I have no fucking clue what's coming. It's like a delicious daily surprise of rancid dog shit on a bed of roach eggs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.

He is basically a machine for metabolizing cocaine.  There will be no Nobels this year.

Lots of political dumpster fires to take the place of Yule logs for un-American Americans though.

Well, yes.  There's not much point in being a rich prick if you don't have hordes of peasants, right?  And how do you get peasants?  You give them a very visible worse alternative.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 15, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 15, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I like that he calls the enemy of Anti-fascists the US Government monopoly on violence.

I know he's incapable of recognizing what that means, but that just makes it all the more rich and interesting, I think.

yeah in a previous era, other people might have said to him JESUS FUCK, DON'T EXPLAIN IT LIKE THAT

but ahhhh, fuck it, it's all out in the open now


Which is why this particular power-grab will fail.


But precendent has been set, and the next one won't fail.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on November 16, 2018, 07:22:26 AM
I'm starting to think Avenatti works for Trump.

I think Trump is using him to sew WWF tier drama.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 17, 2018, 01:13:11 AM
Nothing surprising, but plenty frightening:

https://apple.news/A-S6nscQvRIeae_QYv_d2QA
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2018, 05:20:35 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-i-cant-imagine-anybody-else-other-than-myself-for-time-person-of-the-year/ar-BBPVxzK?ocid=spartanntp

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2018, 06:21:14 PM
I mean, anything beyond the 7th word was unnecessary anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2018, 11:52:56 PM
Feeling a little vindicated today

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/report-trump-friend-roger-stone-colluded-email-hackers.html?fbclid=IwAR2TlcnKiCaDwlskrEnsojqyOwSX64DJVSSvOR1tlySMeTLwXPIhqjgxgr8

QuoteA court document apparently drafted by Robert Mueller and obtained by NBC and CNN cites emails that prove that Corsi was in contact with WikiLeaks and, more importantly, that he passed on what he knew to Roger Stone.

According to the document, Stone emailed Corsi on July 25, 2016: "Get to (Assange) [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get the pending (WikiLeaks) emails."

On August 2, Corsi, having evidently carried out this directive, emailed Stone

In other news, guess who Manafort had a secret meeting with, shortly before he became Trump's pro bono campaign manager?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-held-secret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy?fbclid=IwAR0AAlkR-IuuKB4ADPig6H2Rfpl7ivjA3j8_Sc56NR76jLsgVr-xR_34Hag

QuoteDonald Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort held secret talks with Julian Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and visited around the time he joined Trump's campaign, the Guardian has been told.

Sources have said Manafort went to see Assange in 2013, 2015 and in spring 2016 – during the period when he was made a key figure in Trump's push for the White House.

In a statement, Manafort denied meeting Assange. He said: "I have never met Julian Assange or anyone connected to him. I have never been contacted by anyone connected to WikiLeaks, either directly or indirectly. I have never reached out to Assange or WikiLeaks on any matter."

It is unclear why Manafort would have wanted to see Assange and what was discussed. But the last apparent meeting is likely to come under scrutiny and could interest Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A well-placed source has told the Guardian that Manafort went to see Assange around March 2016. Months later WikiLeaks released a stash of Democratic emails stolen by Russian intelligence officers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 28, 2018, 12:22:38 AM
And because the cosmic balance must be maintained, here we have Resident Quisling Piece of Fucking Shit Chuck "I Would Sell My Grandmother At A Farmers Market As UnProcessed Soylent Green If It Made My Balls Feel Big Enough" Schumer marching to some unspeakable future on the bones of the fucking innocent.

https://thinkprogress.org/chuck-schumer-donald-trump-border-wall-funding-senate-minority-leader-democrats-new-york-77aa35d26aef/

I might hate Pelosi, but she's an effectively useless obstructionist who does nothing bad or good in her staunch commitment to inaction. Schumer is a collaborator and should be flogged with iron rods for his sins.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 12:45:20 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 28, 2018, 12:22:38 AM
And because the cosmic balance must be maintained, here we have Resident Quisling Piece of Fucking Shit Chuck "I Would Sell My Grandmother At A Farmers Market As UnProcessed Soylent Green If It Made My Balls Feel Big Enough" Schumer marching to some unspeakable future on the bones of the fucking innocent.

https://thinkprogress.org/chuck-schumer-donald-trump-border-wall-funding-senate-minority-leader-democrats-new-york-77aa35d26aef/

I might hate Pelosi, but she's an effectively useless obstructionist who does nothing bad or good in her staunch commitment to inaction. Schumer is a collaborator and should be flogged with iron rods for his sins.

He really is absolute garbage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 28, 2018, 10:48:14 AM
Why someone has not primaried the shit out of him I do not understand.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 28, 2018, 12:22:38 AM
Schumer is a collaborator and should be flogged with iron rods for his sins.

Is it your opinion that beating someone to a bloody pulp while they're tied to a post is an appropriate and effective means of discipline, or do you simply enjoy the idea of one of the guys on the other side screaming in pain?

If it's the first case, I would be curious as to the basis you have for this.  Corporal punishment is still employed in some places in the world, doubtless you can find some information as to its efficacy.

If it's the second case, well, you do you. :|

P.S.  It doesn't matter to me if you're being serious or not.  All I know of you is words on a page, and somehow, it doesn't feel like you're joking.  Your count is now two.

I don't know anything about this Schumer guy.  Can't see that it matters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 28, 2018, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 28, 2018, 10:48:14 AM
Why someone has not primaried the shit out of him I do not understand.

ugh, we (new yorkers) tried

Cynthia Nixon got him to slide a little bit to the left in order to defeat her, but he's pretty fuckin entrenched
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 28, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 28, 2018, 12:22:38 AM
Schumer is a collaborator and should be flogged with iron rods for his sins.

Is it your opinion that beating someone to a bloody pulp while they're tied to a post is an appropriate and effective means of discipline, or do you simply enjoy the idea of one of the guys on the other side screaming in pain?

If it's the first case, I would be curious as to the basis you have for this.  Corporal punishment is still employed in some places in the world, doubtless you can find some information as to its efficacy.

If it's the second case, well, you do you. :|

P.S.  It doesn't matter to me if you're being serious or not.  All I know of you is words on a page, and somehow, it doesn't feel like you're joking.  Your count is now two.

I don't know anything about this Schumer guy.  Can't see that it matters.

Waxing hyperbolic is a national sport in these parts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 28, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
The Orange One said this:

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers."

I mean... that's straight newsfeed material, if I'm being honest.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on November 28, 2018, 02:24:31 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 01:20:43 PM
Is it your opinion that beating someone to a bloody pulp while they're tied to a post is an appropriate and effective means of discipline, or do you simply enjoy the idea of one of the guys on the other side screaming in pain?


Chuck Schumer doesn't feel pain like humans do.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 28, 2018, 02:16:33 PM

Waxing hyperbolic is a national sport in these parts.

This. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 28, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
Waxing hyperbolic is a national sport in these parts.
This.
I got a funny reaction the last time I poked him about this sort of thing.  I was hoping for a repeat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 28, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
Waxing hyperbolic is a national sport in these parts.
This.
I got a funny reaction the last time I poked him about this sort of thing.  I was hoping for a repeat.

"Her," for what it's worth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 04:01:47 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on November 28, 2018, 02:16:33 PM
Waxing hyperbolic is a national sport in these parts.
This.
I got a funny reaction the last time I poked him about this sort of thing.  I was hoping for a repeat.

"Her," for what it's worth.
"Her", then.  Offense not intended (on that count, anyway).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 28, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 28, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
The Orange One said this:

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers."

I mean... that's straight newsfeed material, if I'm being honest.
The opposite of a problem.
I don't even see what he is getting at here, "it would all be better if we just pretended it was"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 28, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 28, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
The Orange One said this:

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers."

I mean... that's straight newsfeed material, if I'm being honest.
The opposite of a problem.
I don't even see what he is getting at here, "it would all be better if we just pretended it was"

This is his MO.  Speak in half sentences, the goobers will fill in the rest for themselves, as they see fit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 28, 2018, 10:19:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 28, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
The Orange One said this:

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers."

I mean... that's straight newsfeed material, if I'm being honest.
I'm descended from idiots on one side of the family, so I can understand their language.  I will attempt a translation.

"I'm very smart.  Because I'm very smart, people who disagree with me are wrong.  People being wrong around me causes problems."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 10:29:03 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-manafort-pardon-not-off-the-table-interview/ar-BBQdapc?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2018, 09:32:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 28, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 28, 2018, 02:19:02 PM
The Orange One said this:

"One of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers."

I mean... that's straight newsfeed material, if I'm being honest.
The opposite of a problem.
I don't even see what he is getting at here, "it would all be better if we just pretended it was"

This is his MO.  Speak in half sentences, the goobers will fill in the rest for themselves, as they see fit.

It's one of the marks of a practiced grifter.  There's a thing being passed around on social media recently about it, but it's one of those things that if you've seen it before, you know the kind of person who uses it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2018, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 28, 2018, 10:29:03 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-manafort-pardon-not-off-the-table-interview/ar-BBQdapc?ocid=spartanntp

Apparently Guiliani(!) is the voice of reason here, telling Trump he can't pardon anyone involved before Mueller's investigation finishes or else it will appear to be obstruction of justice.

But we know how Trump feels about people telling him to do things he doesn't want...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 29, 2018, 09:28:29 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-agents-raid-office-of-lawyer-who-previously-did-tax-work-for-trump/ar-BBQgssE?ocid=spartanntp

DOOM

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 29, 2018, 10:00:14 PM
Operation Twitter Deathwatch is a go.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
So, Mueller's sentencing recommendations on Flynn have been released.

Of interest: he requests that Flynn serve no prison time due to his high level of cooperation with the investigation, and that Flynn has been helpful in three investigations, the third of which is completely censored on the public version of the memo.

Speculation abounds as to what that investigation may be, but it's pretty intriguing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 05, 2018, 10:59:33 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 05, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
So, Mueller's sentencing recommendations on Flynn have been released.

Of interest: he requests that Flynn serve no prison time due to his high level of cooperation with the investigation, and that Flynn has been helpful in three investigations, the third of which is completely censored on the public version of the memo.

Speculation abounds as to what that investigation may be, but it's pretty intriguing.

I'm going to make a bet that the censored investigation is directly connected to the Trump family or executives of their various corporations. Inside their inner circle. The only real reason is there doesn't seem to be any other reason to hide shit from these idiots.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2018, 11:36:39 AM
It's a definite possibility.

I had three potential thoughts myself:

1) Money laundering.  We know Mueller has retained experts in prosecuting money laundering and international financial crimes.
2) The DNC hack.  Assange has been named in another sealed indictment.  Could it be the same one? 
3) Turkey.  Flynn wasn't only in with the Russians, he was doing some very dodgy work for the Turkish state, including planning a kidnapping.  Did Turkish penetration of the Trump administration go further than that?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 05, 2018, 04:23:10 PM
Oh damn, I forgot Assange. Good call.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 05, 2018, 10:46:40 PM
On the 30th of November, Rudy Giuliani missed a space in a twitter post (https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1068570837459050496).  A string of text, "G-20.In", was now parsable as a link address,  ".in" being the TLD for India.  Twitter, like many other social media platforms do, automatically converted this string to a link.

Someone noticed this, registered the g-20.in (http://g-20.in/) domain, and created a webpage with the text "Donald J. Trump is a traitor to our country."

Rudy Giuliani blamed this incident on Twitter, saying "Twitter allowed someone to invade my text with a disgusting anti-President message."

Giuliani is one of Trump's cybersecurity advisors. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/12/trump-names-rudy-giuliani-as-cybersecurity-adviser/?utm_term=.66a24e7b5ed0)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2018, 10:50:25 PM
He also runs a cybersecurity company, Guiliani Partners  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 06, 2018, 09:07:24 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/making-president-trump's-bed-a-housekeeper-without-papers/ar-BBQAYz2?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2018, 11:38:25 PM
Looks like the courts have rejected Mueller's advice, and want to sentence Cohen to 3-4 years of prison time.

That's not the interesting part though, this is:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt2I2fJXQAAQipb.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on December 08, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
Not sure how good The source was but yesterday I read an article (that I can't find right now) that mentioned how the transition team was largely involved with Russian correspondence. And it went on to remind the reader that the head of the Trump transition team was Mike pence. So this means that should pence also get indicted (possibly in some of those heavily redacted paragraphs) the next person in line of succession would be the new speaker of the House. This new speaker of the House based on the Democratic majority is likely to be Nancy pelosi.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 08, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
Yup.  Elijah Cunningham passed on some highly relevant reservations about Flynn to Pence, in a letter, which Pence then lied about.

Worth noting, since it's always missed in these discussions, that Flynn not only had suspicious contacts with the  Russian government, but also with the Turkish government who had hired his consulting firm, Flynn Associates, to provide information on Turkish opposition figures in the US and in one case, to figure out a plan to illegally rendition one back to Turkey.  At the very least Pence's vetting should have picked up on the Turkish government contracts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 10, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
So, Kelly is leaving, and Trump's 1st choice for a replacement backed out.  And his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.  :lulz:

WHAT IF YOU THREW A JUNTA AND NOBODY CAME?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 11, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 08, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
Worth noting, since it's always missed in these discussions, that Flynn not only had suspicious contacts with the  Russian government, but also with the Turkish government who had hired his consulting firm, Flynn Associates, to provide information on Turkish opposition figures in the US and in one case, to figure out a plan to illegally rendition one back to Turkey.  At the very least Pence's vetting should have picked up on the Turkish government contracts.

Why does that remind me of Khashoggi?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 11, 2018, 06:35:54 PM
Speaking of Turkey, expect Trump to be BIG MAD, after dropping some subtle hints that he should be the man of the year forever.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-guardians/ar-BBQNDh1?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 11, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
OH, HOLY CRAP!  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/5-takeaways-from-trump's-meeting-with-pelosi-and-schumer/ar-BBQOQ2j?ocid=spartanntp

Apparently, Pelosi has in fact grown a few vertebrae.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on December 11, 2018, 11:04:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 11, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
OH, HOLY CRAP!  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/5-takeaways-from-trump's-meeting-with-pelosi-and-schumer/ar-BBQOQ2j?ocid=spartanntp

Apparently, Pelosi has in fact grown a few vertebrae.

Damn!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 12, 2018, 03:18:25 PM
That was awesome. I love how Trump thinks he's getting the better of them but is clearly floundering and struggling to stay buoyant.

Schumer goes "When the president brags he won North Dakota and Indiana, he's in real trouble."

Trump is like "We did win them."

what a big boy!


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 12, 2018, 06:18:19 PM
Whatever the outcome, Trump defines it as a huge personal success.

He could start a nuclear war that wiped out half the continent, and the next day he'd be bragging about his great victory, and how the number of survivors "exceeded all expectations ".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 12, 2018, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 11, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 08, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
Worth noting, since it's always missed in these discussions, that Flynn not only had suspicious contacts with the  Russian government, but also with the Turkish government who had hired his consulting firm, Flynn Associates, to provide information on Turkish opposition figures in the US and in one case, to figure out a plan to illegally rendition one back to Turkey.  At the very least Pence's vetting should have picked up on the Turkish government contracts.

Why does that remind me of Khashoggi?

It was Gulen, in case you were wondering, Erdogan's one time ally turned "George Soros" of Turkish politics.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 12, 2018, 07:29:14 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about him in all the kerfuffle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 10, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
So, Kelly is leaving, and Trump's 1st choice for a replacement backed out.  And his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.  :lulz:

WHAT IF YOU THREW A JUNTA AND NOBODY CAME?

AND THEN THIS HAPPENED:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/christie-pulls-out-of-the-running-for-trump-chief-of-staff/ar-BBQXCLL?ocid=spartanntp

:lulz:

Apparently, Trump is going to try to hire his son-in-law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 14, 2018, 07:25:09 PM
Ah, the ever amusing, "If I'm going down, you're all coming with me" approach.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 14, 2018, 07:25:09 PM
Ah, the ever amusing, "If I'm going down, you're all coming with me" approach.

More to the point:

QuoteKushner had made clear to other White House aides that he would support Christie being appointed to the job and that he appreciated the former governor's work on overhauling federal prison sentencing rules, a top priority for the president and his son-in-law.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 14, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Breaking news:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 14, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
With Chris Christie refusing, I believe that leaves the position to either Jared Kushner or Piers Morgan
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 17, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
The true (((secret))) meaning of "smocking" according to Qanon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlwd7c5vNI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 17, 2018, 12:19:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 17, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
The true (((secret))) meaning of "smocking" according to Qanon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlwd7c5vNI&feature=youtu.be

Sorry, couldn't stand to bear Trump be called "the maestro" unironically any more so I had to shut it off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 17, 2018, 12:19:16 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 17, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
The true (((secret))) meaning of "smocking" according to Qanon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLlwd7c5vNI&feature=youtu.be

Sorry, couldn't stand to bear Trump be called "the maestro" unironically any more so I had to shut it off.

Same.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 17, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
You guys have probably exposed yourself to more Qanon stuff than I have. I've heard of them before, probably here, but this was the first of their propaganda I have listened to, and I have to say I found it pretty hilarious, but I think 13 minutes of listening to a guy do 4th grade math problems and turn them into sentences is probably just about my limit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 17, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
You guys have probably exposed yourself to more Qanon stuff than I have. I've heard of them before, probably here, but this was the first of their propaganda I have listened to, and I have to say I found it pretty hilarious, but I think 13 minutes of listening to a guy do 4th grade math problems and turn them into sentences is probably just about my limit.

QAnon is crazytown, and crazytown is always the same. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
Posting to save for use elsewhere:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/4-main-takeaways-from-new-reports-on-russia's-2016-election-interference/ar-BBR5xVW?ocid=spartanntp

Also, Cain, how accurate do you find this to be?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on December 17, 2018, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 17, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
You guys have probably exposed yourself to more Qanon stuff than I have. I've heard of them before, probably here, but this was the first of their propaganda I have listened to, and I have to say I found it pretty hilarious, but I think 13 minutes of listening to a guy do 4th grade math problems and turn them into sentences is probably just about my limit.

QAnon is crazytown, and crazytown is always the same.

Once you've gawked at the Flat Earth monument, and visited the Time Cube museum, there's nothing more to see.  Best to leave town before you catch brain parasites.

I generally find numerology too stupid to be funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 18, 2018, 05:52:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
Posting to save for use elsewhere:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/4-main-takeaways-from-new-reports-on-russia's-2016-election-interference/ar-BBR5xVW?ocid=spartanntp

Also, Cain, how accurate do you find this to be?

All seems to fall in line with what is being reported elsewhere, in previous reports and based on my own experience.

They wanted to energize and enrage conservatives and depress the black vote presumably on the basis of increasing the turnout for Trump and decreasing it for Clinton.  And the techn companies turned a blind eye to what was happening because they were getting mad advertising revenue for it (paid in RUBLES in some cases) and then covered up how aware they were of the problem.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 19, 2018, 07:27:51 PM
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/trump-releases-ad-asking-people-to-call-him-and-say-thank-you


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 20, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
So, Trump's pulling troops out of Syria (https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1OI1KU) (or he tweeted he's doing it -- I realize there's a difference there).

This is oddly conflicting.  On one hand, I've never liked the way the US has handled the region, and so I... agree... with Trump...  Which makes me immediately want to say, "no, stay, it's probably a gift to Russia to leave." 

But then, a lot of Republicans I really don't trust on matters of foreign policy have loudly declared that the troops should stay, so I'm back to being pro-troop withdrawal.



Someone smarter than me, please help.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on December 20, 2018, 01:40:28 PM
I can't claim to be smarter but I think this time around they should try shipping out all the gear and leaving the troops behind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 20, 2018, 04:56:25 PM
Troop withdrawal is not inherently terrible.

It's just Trump is completely fucking lying about why he's doing it, which should make you suspicious as fuck about his motives.

He claims ISIS is defeated (it's not) and that Iran and Russia will hate seeing him go (they won't) because they will have to fight ISIS (the aforementioned "defeated" group) without US help.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 20, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2018, 04:56:25 PM


He claims ISIS is defeated (it's not) and that Iran and Russia will hate seeing him go (they won't) because they will have to fight ISIS (the aforementioned "defeated" group) without US help.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 20, 2018, 05:48:21 PM
The market is falling in a rather alarming way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 20, 2018, 06:55:27 PM
something something trade wars are easy to win.

Also concerns over US oil production and declining returns having weird market impacts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 20, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2018, 06:55:27 PM
something something trade wars are easy to win.

Also concerns over US oil production and declining returns having weird market impacts.

The kicker seems to have been dumbass stating he will not sign any deals to keep the government running.

The correction itself is on-going, and accounts for about 325 points of the drop.  The remaining 135 points happened when the big orange colostomy bag ran his mouth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 20, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
https://apple.news/AwlIxEt0dTyqfwYg9HZDrNw

Well then. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 21, 2018, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: nullified on December 20, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
https://apple.news/AwlIxEt0dTyqfwYg9HZDrNw

Well then. Merry Christmas.

They made him wear boxing gloves at work so he couldn't operate a pistol.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2018, 01:38:22 PM
So not only a complete withdrawal from Syria, but also Afghanistan AND Mattis is out.

Looks like Trump is going for some kind of "how much crazy shit can I do during the lame duck session" record
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on December 21, 2018, 02:16:52 PM
I think I approve of the withdrawl, but knowing him he will find some way to fuck it up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 21, 2018, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 21, 2018, 02:16:52 PM
I think I approve of the withdrawl, but knowing him he will find some way to fuck it up.

There's gonna be some stank under the surface.  169% guaranteed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2018, 05:26:59 PM
I'm not entirely opposed, as I think the intervention in Syria is very much illegal and doesn't enhance European or American security massively.

That said, it also

1) Screws over the Kurds, who are gonna get slaughtered
2) Essentially means Assad wins the civil war
3) Allows Hezbollah to move troops back into Lebanon, impacting on Israel's security
4) Gives ISIS breathing room
5) Gives Russia a free geopolitical win.

5 really sticks in my craw, because he could have demanded some pretty hefty concessions from Russia to get the troops out.  But he just gave it away, for free.

Afghanistan worries me more though.  The Taliban are winning, and between that fact and a US staged withdrawal, they don't really have any incentives to negotiate right now. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on December 21, 2018, 06:08:56 PM
Has anyone seen any comment from Israel yet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 21, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
They're....not happy.  Not on a level of unhappiness as they were over the whole "lol Russians here is raw Israeli intel" business, but this is now the second time they have been directly dicked over by Trump, in favour of Putin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on December 21, 2018, 06:42:04 PM
He just doesn't get the whole "Loyalty" thing. Sad
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 21, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 21, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
They're....not happy.  Not on a level of unhappiness as they were over the whole "lol Russians here is raw Israeli intel" business, but this is now the second time they have been directly dicked over by Trump, in favour of Putin.

But he moved the Embassy to Jerusalem!



Sheesh.... THEM people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 21, 2018, 09:05:24 PM
I met a lot of Israelis in Germany this year who were very pro-trump, which I still find bizarre even given the embassy thing.

Will be curious to see if they change their tune this summer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 21, 2018, 11:06:43 PM
I'm conflicted too. While on the one hand we shouldn't have been there in the first place, on the other hand America in in large part the one who made this mess by ousting Saddam. Amd while cutting and running is a pretty crappy exit strategy, at least he has an exit strategy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 22, 2018, 08:05:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on December 21, 2018, 09:05:24 PM
I met a lot of Israelis in Germany this year who were very pro-trump, which I still find bizarre even given the embassy thing.

Will be curious to see if they change their tune this summer.

Trump supporters and their ilk seem to be very emotionally invested in symbols and rituals. I think it has more to do with an instinct for marking territory than anything resembling logic.

We "took prayer out of school" so what do they want to do? They want to defund or completely eliminate public education. A big ass wall? Won't work. Will cost a shit ton of money. But it sure does mark the hell out of territory.

Anything that doesn't have their stank on it is bad, and must be destroyed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 22, 2018, 09:43:04 PM
Honestly, I'm surprised this hasn't already happened.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/officials-worry-trump-may-back-erik-prince-plan-privatize-war-n901401?fbclid=IwAR2By2vZWXXHUrYr-DhjNYCGvsrIeuCCeiUOh6lwTP5Dhl8B_5pBYIgr7EM

.

QuoteIn an interview with NBC News, Prince said he believes Trump advisers who oppose his plan are painting "as rosy a picture as they can" of the situation on the ground, including that "peace is around the corner" with recent U.S. efforts for peace talks with the Taliban. He said he believes Trump's advisers "over-emphasize the fluff and flare of these so-called peace talks."

Prince, a staunch Trump supporter whose sister is Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, argues that after 17 years of war in Afghanistan, it's time for the U.S. to try something new.

"I know he's frustrated," Prince said of the president. "He gave the Pentagon what they wanted. ...And they haven't delivered."

Prince said he hasn't spoken directly to Trump about the plan, but told NBC News he plans to launch an aggressive media "air campaign" in coming days to try to get the president to embrace it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 23, 2018, 05:03:01 AM
I definitely don't like the idea of the troop withdraw being in the context of making peace with the Taliban-
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 23, 2018, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 23, 2018, 05:03:01 AM
I definitely don't like the idea of the troop withdraw being in the context of making peace with the Taliban-

When are you enlisting?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 24, 2018, 07:09:47 AM
I'm fine with the troops being removed, but the Taliban is pure evil - philosophically on a level comparable to the nazis or the confederacy or imperial japan (although not nearly as much of an actual threat as these were) - and should be considered an active adversary subject to drone strikes, sabotage, and assassinations for as long as it exists
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on December 24, 2018, 11:06:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 20, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
So, Trump's pulling troops out of Syria (https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1OI1KU) (or he tweeted he's doing it -- I realize there's a difference there).

This is oddly conflicting.  On one hand, I've never liked the way the US has handled the region, and so I... agree... with Trump...  Which makes me immediately want to say, "no, stay, it's probably a gift to Russia to leave." 

But then, a lot of Republicans I really don't trust on matters of foreign policy have loudly declared that the troops should stay, so I'm back to being pro-troop withdrawal.



Someone smarter than me, please help.

The right thing, done  for the wrong reason, is still the right thing.  I am sure it is a gift to Russia, but we were still up to no good there.

My hope is that Russia shifts a bit in the Kurd/Turkey conflict.  It makes no sense to me that they aren't more anti-Turkey,what with Turkey shooting down their plane and all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 26, 2018, 02:44:35 PM
I went to Foxnews.com to see how they're covering the gov't shutdown. They aren't (right now, at least). But I did find THIS: https://www.foxnews.com/science/safari-ranger-trampled-to-death-by-sexually-charged-elephant
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
It's amazing where you can make cuts to help give billionaires more money.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-moves-to-freeze-pay-for-federal-workers-amid-government-shutdown/ar-BBRznwj?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on December 24, 2018, 11:06:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 20, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
So, Trump's pulling troops out of Syria (https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1OI1KU) (or he tweeted he's doing it -- I realize there's a difference there).

This is oddly conflicting.  On one hand, I've never liked the way the US has handled the region, and so I... agree... with Trump...  Which makes me immediately want to say, "no, stay, it's probably a gift to Russia to leave." 

But then, a lot of Republicans I really don't trust on matters of foreign policy have loudly declared that the troops should stay, so I'm back to being pro-troop withdrawal.



Someone smarter than me, please help.


The right thing, done  for the wrong reason, is still the right thing.  I am sure it is a gift to Russia, but we were still up to no good there.

My hope is that Russia shifts a bit in the Kurd/Turkey conflict.  It makes no sense to me that they aren't more anti-Turkey,what with Turkey shooting down their plane and all.

So, do you imagine that Trump suddenly joined the side of the angels, or do you maybe thing there's a hook in this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2018, 09:54:18 PM
If at any point, it looks like Trump is making the right decision about anything at all, you're being had.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 30, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 23, 2018, 05:03:01 AM
I definitely don't like the idea of the troop withdraw being in the context of making peace with the Taliban-

I agree, oddly enough.  The Taliban are on the offensive and have little incentive to make peace at the moment anyway, but that just means when the US withdrawals the Afghan Army will get stomped.

A better idea would be to surge in numbers, beat the Taliban down and negotiate from a position of strength.  Give amnesty to Taliban soldiers who give themselves up, roll them into a unit to fight ISIS or something, and drive some cracks in the ranks.  Then negotiate, then bug out.

Of course, this should have been the strategy in 2001, but Rumsfeld was all "we are not in the business of state-building", so the opportunity to have this settled before the Iraq war even rolled around was completely lost.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 31, 2018, 04:40:28 PM
LOL.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-returns-to-border-wall-fight-democrats-come-back-from-vacation-now/ar-BBREhdw?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 31, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
He so desperately wants to be a child emperor, doesn't he?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 31, 2018, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
He so desperately wants to be a child emperor, doesn't he?

He doesn't seem to be aware that the house changes hands in 36 hours.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 01, 2019, 03:13:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 29, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on December 24, 2018, 11:06:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO on December 20, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
So, Trump's pulling troops out of Syria (https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1OI1KU) (or he tweeted he's doing it -- I realize there's a difference there).

This is oddly conflicting.  On one hand, I've never liked the way the US has handled the region, and so I... agree... with Trump...  Which makes me immediately want to say, "no, stay, it's probably a gift to Russia to leave." 

But then, a lot of Republicans I really don't trust on matters of foreign policy have loudly declared that the troops should stay, so I'm back to being pro-troop withdrawal.



Someone smarter than me, please help.


The right thing, done  for the wrong reason, is still the right thing.  I am sure it is a gift to Russia, but we were still up to no good there.

My hope is that Russia shifts a bit in the Kurd/Turkey conflict.  It makes no sense to me that they aren't more anti-Turkey,what with Turkey shooting down their plane and all.

So, do you imagine that Trump suddenly joined the side of the angels, or do you maybe thing there's a hook in this?

I assume he did it as a favor to Putin. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 01, 2019, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 31, 2018, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 31, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
He so desperately wants to be a child emperor, doesn't he?

He doesn't seem to be aware that the house changes hands in 36 hours.

I wasn't either, but I was being traumatised by fireworks and insomnia (and more importantly, didn't know the exact time when Congress changed hands).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
And then this happened.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-unloads-on-james-mattis-says-he-essentially-fired-defense-secretary/ar-BBRJ7NL?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 02, 2019, 09:12:32 PM
IT'S THE RETURN OF THE SPINELESS WONDER!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa/graham-more-upbeat-on-syria-troop-withdrawal-after-trump-meeting-idUSKCN1OT0JB
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 04, 2019, 10:17:32 PM
AND THEN
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/while-federal-workers-go-without-pay-senior-trump-administration-officials-are-poised-to-get-dollar10000-raises/ar-BBRNQP3?ocid=spartanntp

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2019, 08:26:25 PM
Prime time address tomorrow.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-plans-prime-time-address-visit-to-mexico-border/ar-BBRVPZI?ocid=spartanntp

ETA:  The networks might not air it, at least not in realtime.  :banana:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/broadcast-networks-deliberating-whether-to-air-trumps-prime-time-immigration-address/ar-BBRWyOd?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2019, 04:11:41 PM
Not directly Trump related, but part of the general atmosphere.

If you say it around your friends, you will eventually fuck up in public.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-meteorologist-fired-after-using-racial-slur-on-air/ar-BBRXaGF?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2019, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2019, 04:11:41 PM
Not directly Trump related, but part of the general atmosphere.

If you say it around your friends, you will eventually fuck up in public.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-meteorologist-fired-after-using-racial-slur-on-air/ar-BBRXaGF?ocid=spartanntp

Who the hell keeps that epithet in their go-to vocabulary?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2019, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 08, 2019, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2019, 04:11:41 PM
Not directly Trump related, but part of the general atmosphere.

If you say it around your friends, you will eventually fuck up in public.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-meteorologist-fired-after-using-racial-slur-on-air/ar-BBRXaGF?ocid=spartanntp

Who the hell keeps that epithet in their go-to vocabulary?

39% of America, apparently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 08, 2019, 05:01:25 PM
Well, I guess that's one good thing of trump, racists feel more emboldened to do say shit like this and they can be wack-a-mole'd out of different areas.
However, I suspect some apologist will come out now defending him, and he will have a new job in the whitehouse by next week... new chief of staff found
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2019, 07:08:31 PM
Nah, it'll be like the cops, or the Catholic church.  He'll move to a new town, get the same kind of job.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2019, 09:38:33 PM
What's the over/under on Trump declaring a national emergency tonight?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 08, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
2/1 IMO
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 02:23:52 AM
Well, that speech was everything I expected and less.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on January 09, 2019, 04:33:25 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qw7uAkCag7FPX6qI9pBAAzi1a4sgyD3k5xvleIOwL-s/edit#gid=0 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qw7uAkCag7FPX6qI9pBAAzi1a4sgyD3k5xvleIOwL-s/edit#gid=0)

Useful spreadsheet.  Government positions under Trump.  Time spent also in units of Mooches.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2019, 06:26:57 AM
Only seen people's responses so far, but sounds pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 06:22:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2019, 06:26:57 AM
Only seen people's responses so far, but sounds pretty pathetic.

It was basically him reading his tweets really slowly for 7 minutes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 06:25:05 PM
WaPo felt the need today to run some piece of garbage from Marc Thiessen on why Trump was the mostest presidential president ever ever ebbbburrr last night.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 06:26:51 PM
Also this is apparently now a thing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-dems-to-subpoena-donald-trump-jr-first-in-russia-probe/ar-BBS0YiH?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
And then to make everything better.  :lulz::horrormirth::lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-jr-suggests-border-wall-is-like-a-zoo-fence/ar-BBS11kq?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2019, 10:25:58 PM
This whole Pelosi & Schumer growing a spine thing is nerve-wracking.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-walks-out-of-border-security-meeting-after-pelosi-rejects-wall-pitch/ar-BBS2bNO?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 10, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
"Can we build a wall high enough around this country so as to keep out these cheaper races; or will it be a feeble dam, leaving it to our descendants to abandon the country to blacks, browns, and yellows?"
    --Charles Davenport (1866-1944), American eugenicist


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
    --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 10, 2019, 06:30:46 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kushner-reaches-congress-shutdown-daca-wall-gains-steam-150857865.html

I want to vomit.  :vom:

If I understand this correctly they're basically leveraging the well-being of families and children to get that goddamn funding.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2019, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 10, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
"Can we build a wall high enough around this country so as to keep out these cheaper races; or will it be a feeble dam, leaving it to our descendants to abandon the country to blacks, browns, and yellows?"
    --Charles Davenport (1866-1944), American eugenicist


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
    --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

"Never ever give up.  Don't give up. Don't allow it to happen. If there's a concrete wall in front of you, go through it, go over it, go around it.  But get to the other side of that wall."

- Donald Trump, 2004
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2019, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 10, 2019, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 10, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
"Can we build a wall high enough around this country so as to keep out these cheaper races; or will it be a feeble dam, leaving it to our descendants to abandon the country to blacks, browns, and yellows?"
    --Charles Davenport (1866-1944), American eugenicist


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
    --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

"Never ever give up.  Don't give up. Don't allow it to happen. If there's a concrete wall in front of you, go through it, go over it, go around it.  But get to the other side of that wall."

- Donald Trump, 2004

Also:

Quote from: Forbes"Inside Trump's circle, the power of illegal immigration to manipulate popular sentiment was readily apparent, and his advisers brainstormed methods for keeping their attention-addled boss on message," writes Joshua Green, author of Devil's Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the Nationalist Uprising. "They needed a trick, a mnemonic device. In the summer of 2014, they found one that clicked."

Joshua Green had good access to Trump insiders, including Sam Nunberg, who worked with Stone. "Roger Stone and I came up with the idea of 'the Wall,' and we talked to Steve [Bannon] about it," according to Nunberg. "It was to make sure he [Trump] talked about immigration."

The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. "Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea," writes Green. "But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit, a presidential cattle call put on by David Bossie's group, Citizens United. 'One of his pledges was, 'I will build a Wall,' and the place just went nuts,' said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. 'Nobody,' he said, 'builds like Trump.'"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 10, 2019, 06:51:49 PM
Plus the wall idea also plays into his obsession with one-upping China
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 12, 2019, 06:20:30 AM
The white house couldn't pay its water bill today.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 12, 2019, 04:51:32 PM
I'm 99% sure at this point that this has nothing to do with the wall at all but everything to do with tying the hands of Congressional Democrats so he can stall any investigations into himself (Muller investigation is already funded, but Congressional Dems can go after pretty much everything else)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 15, 2019, 10:53:12 PM
Trump is serving White House guests fast food, now.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/photos-trump-fast-food
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2019, 03:21:34 PM
I know this is unexpected, but...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-defends-covington-students-calls-media-coverage-'evil'/ar-BBSAl6e?ocid=spartanntp

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Bad news for the Trump crowd.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ocasio-cortez-other-progressives-land-spots-on-powerful-committee-poised-to-investigate-trump/ar-BBSC9nU?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2019, 03:40:10 PM
Here's part of the "deal" Trump offered the house.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump's-elusive-terms-on-border-deal-cloud-path-to-end-shutdown/ar-BBSCDT4?ocid=spartanntp

QuoteThe Trump bill includes a provision to ban nationals of El Salvador, Guatemala or Honduras who are under 18 years old from eligibility for asylum unless they submit applications at a processing center in Central America. That means they cannot apply in the U.S. if they flee their home countries because of gang violence, as many have done.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2019, 04:51:38 PM
Off-site processing centres are all the rage these days.  The EU has them in Libya, which is of course a wonderful example of a migrant policy that hasn't gone completely wrong and turned into a humanitarian crisis/people smuggling opportunity/actual slavery.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstien on January 23, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
Hey Cain, what's the deal with the bullshit around this Mystery company related to Muller lark. Likely to be anything of note in the end or just sideshow shit?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: wudgar on January 24, 2019, 07:51:32 AM
Russian money --> Trump's pocket?
Goddess I hope so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 24, 2019, 06:25:30 PM
And then this.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/commerce-chief-tells-strapped-federal-workers-to-get-loans/ar-BBSG62p?ocid=spartanntp

QuoteWorkers affected by the government shutdown should seek loans to pay their bills and financial institutions should make credit available, U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Thursday as employees were poised to miss their second paycheck.

In an interview on CNBC, Ross said it was "disappointing" that some federal workers were not showing up to work and that "there really is not a good excuse" for affected workers to not have money.
"The banks and the credit unions should be making credit available to them," said Ross, a billionaire investor. He noted the government had committed to give federal employees back pay, adding "there really is not a good excuse why there really should be a liquidity crisis."

"True, the people might have to pay a little bit of interest. But the idea that it's paycheck or zero is not a really valid idea,"s said. "They are eventually going to be paid."

Trump last week signed into law a measure to ensure that the roughly 800,000 affected federal workers receive back pay, but the law does not extend to private workers for federal contractors, or others whose livelihoods depend heavily on federal workers' business.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2019, 09:24:47 PM
"dEmOcRaTs aRe oUt oF tOuCh eLiTiStS"

"wHy dOnT gOvErNmEnT wOrKeRs jUsT oFfEr tHeIr sEcOnD yAcHtS aS lOaN cOlLaTeRaL?!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 24, 2019, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 24, 2019, 09:24:47 PM
"dEmOcRaTs aRe oUt oF tOuCh eLiTiStS"

"wHy dOnT gOvErNmEnT wOrKeRs jUsT oFfEr tHeIr sEcOnD yAcHtS aS lOaN cOlLaTeRaL?!"

:lulz::tgrr::lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 24, 2019, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 24, 2019, 06:25:30 PM
And then this.  :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/commerce-chief-tells-strapped-federal-workers-to-get-loans/ar-BBSG62p?ocid=spartanntp


I'll see your "why don't they deal with it themselves?" and raise you "it's for the greater good" and "they should just suck it up."

https://nationalpost.com/news/lara-trump-sparks-outrage-after-calling-government-shutdown-a-little-bit-of-pain-for-federal-workers

Quote from: Lara Trump
We get that this is unfair to you, but this is so much bigger than any one person. It is a little bit of pain, but it's going to be for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren, and generations after that will thank them for their sacrifice now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 25, 2019, 06:35:09 AM
How long until this starts seriously affecting ICE and the DEA. All of this would be worth it just to see those two useless drains on society come to a screeching halt, even if only for a little while. I have nothing but pure contempt for both of those agencies and for absolutely everything they do.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2019, 07:33:39 AM
All that will happen is that lots of ICE and DEA people will become incredibly susceptible to bribes from cartels.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 25, 2019, 03:45:45 PM
I'm talking about it getting to the point where they're furloughed entirely and nobody is doing their job at all, however badly or dishonestly.

Like I want to see stings and infiltrations and operations that took months of planning fall apart because of this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 25, 2019, 04:28:58 PM
Wilbur Ross dubbed over Mr. Burns (https://mobile.twitter.com/skolanach/status/1088490074898030593?fbclid=IwAR1vKDv_jzgI4q8AuGR_p7_qovCXN3Li29P5VHD0Tat--sKSrCcGHNmQCyI)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on January 25, 2019, 05:59:52 PM
Roger Stone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 25, 2019, 10:44:20 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 25, 2019, 03:45:45 PM
I'm talking about it getting to the point where they're furloughed entirely and nobody is doing their job at all, however badly or dishonestly.

Like I want to see stings and infiltrations and operations that took months of planning fall apart because of this.

They wont stop having power though, they'll just stop being paid, and as Cain pointed out, the Cartels are happy to fill in there.  That's what Trump promised us right?  That Mexico would pay for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 26, 2019, 04:31:22 AM
SHUTDOWN VERY OVER. 

FATALITY.  PELOSI WINS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 26, 2019, 07:02:24 AM
I still can't believe Schumer and Pelosi didn't cave in. It was like almost a month, right?

Maybe they're like that stuff you make with corn starch and they only get mushy when there's no pressure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 26, 2019, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on January 25, 2019, 05:59:52 PM
Roger Stone.

He seems to like saying the phrase "bear false witness."  This is either a painfully obvious way of signalling to certain religious types "I'm one of you!", or he's sending a secret message to his confederates.

Since Stone has a Nixon tattoo on his back (seriously), I'm gonna assume the stupider alternative.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 26, 2019, 05:13:03 PM
Is there any way that Trump can save face after having his bluff called?

Now that they've won this round, I can't see the Democrats supporting his wall in any more than a token sense (perhaps they'll allow some maintenance work which needed to be done anyway), and general opinion seems to be that he would immediately be challenged in the courts if he declared a national emergency.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2019, 05:15:28 PM
He can blatantly lie to himself.

"I so didn't lose.  NO CONCESSIONS!" He's literally doing it on Twitter now.  Problem is, it's becoming clear the Emperor has no clothes.  Even Mike Cernovich was referring to Trump as the "Soy-in-Chief" yesterday
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 26, 2019, 05:27:52 PM
It's pretty hilarious to see in action, and for once it's not a fiddling on a hill sort of hilarity.* A message has been sent and everyone has received it except for the subject.

Good fun, good fun.






* I actually have no idea if I'm making this reference right because I have caught the plague of Justinian and/or the Black Death and my brain is all fucked up on high temperatures and the distinct sensation of burrowing in my innards by microscopic pikachus. Sorry if I fucked this up and ruined everything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
I think you mean "fiddling while Rome burns"?

Rome is built on 7 hills, but that aside...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 26, 2019, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
I think you mean "fiddling while Rome burns"?

Rome is built on 7 hills, but that aside...

Also iirc according to Tacitus Nero sang about Troy. There were no fiddles in the empire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 26, 2019, 09:10:29 PM
Yeah, but it's a great turn of phrase.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 27, 2019, 12:09:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 26, 2019, 05:30:08 PM
I think you mean "fiddling while Rome burns"?

Rome is built on 7 hills, but that aside...

That's the one, yeah. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 30, 2019, 04:12:24 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-calls-his-intelligence-people-naive/ar-BBSWGkF?ocid=spartanntp

Once again, the Giant Orange Colostomy Bag covers himself in glory.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2019, 05:52:44 PM
Donald "Sicario 2 was a documentary" Trump?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 30, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2019, 05:52:44 PM
Donald "Sicario 2 was a documentary" Trump?  :lulz:

:lulz:

Also, he's apparently talking to himself in the white house, trying to build up the courage to shut everything down again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Goddess Eris on January 31, 2019, 04:33:42 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 30, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2019, 05:52:44 PM
Donald "Sicario 2 was a documentary" Trump?  :lulz:

:lulz:

Also, he's apparently talking to himself in the white house, trying to build up the courage to shut everything down again.

Showing guests around the Oval Office like "I'm told this is where Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky..." (https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/this-is-where-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky-donald-trump-relishes-white-house-guide-role-1984617)  :fap:

Considering the Epstein parties they attended, it's unlikely to be the first case of weird voyeurism between those two... but Lewinsky was probably the oldest woman involved.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on February 06, 2019, 04:56:42 PM
No updates on the SOTA???
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 04:56:42 PM
No updates on the SOTA???

It was a surprisingly well-delivered speech that said the same old shit.  Pelosi sat behind him pulling faces.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2019, 06:16:18 PM
Did they actually go ahead with the paid-for messages they were suggesting?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 06:40:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2019, 06:16:18 PM
Did they actually go ahead with the paid-for messages they were suggesting?

Not that I saw.  But this would hardly be the first time Trump stiffed his donors.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on February 06, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 04:56:42 PM
No updates on the SOTA???

It was a surprisingly well-delivered speech that said the same old shit.  Pelosi sat behind him pulling faces.

Vague reports I saw said he seemed to go back and forth a lot. Accurate?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 04:56:42 PM
No updates on the SOTA???

It was a surprisingly well-delivered speech that said the same old shit.  Pelosi sat behind him pulling faces.

Vague reports I saw said he seemed to go back and forth a lot. Accurate?

Yeah, it was basically a pile of shit, "here are all the things I did to save you all," and "Brown people are scary", jumbled together.  His delivery was good (by his standards), but he was doing this weird thing where he was just fixedly staring into the camera above the teleprompter.  I am more than half-sure Pence was spanking it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 07:01:06 PM
Also, something about abortion doctors running into preschools and killing everyone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2019, 07:48:54 PM
If only those preschoolers were armed...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:04:51 PM
Storing here for FB hilarity:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/meghan-mccain-blasts-trump-for-insulting-her-father-hours-before-denouncing-politics-of-revenge/ar-BBTfMQK?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:42:39 PM
More fun

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blasts-schiff-as-political-hack-over-new-investigation/ar-BBTg1IF?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2019, 10:33:23 PM
Heh.  So they CAN learn.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/heres-how-trumps-approval-ratings-have-changed-in-each-state-in-the-2-years-hes-been-president/ar-BBTsSs3?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
Oh, THIS is rich:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-on-omar-to-resign-over-remarks-condemned-as-anti-semitic/ar-BBTuZgW?ocid=spartanntp

Trump calling anyone out on racism?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 12, 2019, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
Oh, THIS is rich:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-on-omar-to-resign-over-remarks-condemned-as-anti-semitic/ar-BBTuZgW?ocid=spartanntp

Trump calling anyone out on racism?  :lulz:

I love how, just when you're convinced that he's come out with the dumbest shit imaginable, he goes and blurts out something even more retarded. He's like the window licker that just keeps giving  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2019, 08:21:35 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-gop-leader-mcconnell-trump-has-indicated-hes-prepared-to-sign-funding-bill-will-declare-emergency-on-border/ar-BBTB5FD?ocid=spartanntp

Grab your ass.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2019, 08:22:36 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-confirms-trump-nominee-william-barr-as-attorney-general/ar-BBTB9Y5?ocid=spartanntp

And the dominionist pig is back.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-oks-border-deal-trump-will-sign-declare-emergency/ar-BBTB5FD?ocid=spartanntp

So, no shutdown but also no republic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on February 15, 2019, 05:29:45 PM
Unsurprisingly, he did it.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/15/trump-national-emergency-declaration-border-wall-spending-bill.html (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/15/trump-national-emergency-declaration-border-wall-spending-bill.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 15, 2019, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on February 15, 2019, 05:29:45 PM
Unsurprisingly, he did it.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/15/trump-national-emergency-declaration-border-wall-spending-bill.html (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/15/trump-national-emergency-declaration-border-wall-spending-bill.html)

Of course he did.  He also said he knows the courts are going to tie this thing up until long after he's dead.  This is him trying to wiggle out of the corner he has painted himself into.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2019, 05:05:40 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-trump-appointees-promoted-selling-nuclear-power-plants-to-saudi-arabia-over-objections-from-national-security-officials-house-democratic-report-says/ar-BBTOnPF?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2019, 05:16:45 PM
And then Roger Stone learns that he is no longer in a position to talk all that good, good shit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-trump-adviser-stone-ordered-to-appear-in-court-over-instagram-posts/ar-BBTNYp6?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 19, 2019, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2019, 05:05:40 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-trump-appointees-promoted-selling-nuclear-power-plants-to-saudi-arabia-over-objections-from-national-security-officials-house-democratic-report-says/ar-BBTOnPF?ocid=spartanntp

This is a bombshell that's nearly as big as the Russia investigation. If not bigger, because there's a lot of evidence for it already

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1yvrQvTUu-7mBDDW_1MXYpfQW4Tx7OYnaofGGd2E4ndZkGVXr9U99I-84
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 19, 2019, 10:34:41 PM
Shinzo Abe may or may not have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, because North Korea something something.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/18/us-asked-japan-to-nominate-trump-for-nobel-peace-prize-report

Dammit, Japan, you need to pick your friends better.   :argh!:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 20, 2019, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
Oh, THIS is rich:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-on-omar-to-resign-over-remarks-condemned-as-anti-semitic/ar-BBTuZgW?ocid=spartanntp

Trump calling anyone out on racism?  :lulz:

Well Trump's focus is more on hating hispanics, arabs, and the Chinese.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 20, 2019, 10:09:39 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 19, 2019, 10:34:41 PM
Shinzo Abe may or may not have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, because North Korea something something.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/18/us-asked-japan-to-nominate-trump-for-nobel-peace-prize-report

Dammit, Japan, you need to pick your friends better.   :argh!:

Japan has been a political dumpsterfire for awhile, and Shinzo Abe is one of the conservative "ultranationalists" of their worst political groups. In essence, Abe is a fascist by any other name. I can grab sources tonight if Cain or Dok  don't beat me to it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 21, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
I passed out last night before I could show my work.

So Abe is a member of Japan's "Liberal Democratic Party", Jiyu-Minshuto. They're consistently right wing, and consistently in power. The name throws people for a loop but do see: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1601459?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Over the years, the LDP has remained in power almost permanently. It's a catch all clusterfuck of right wing policies growing steadily further right. Traditionally, it publicly excluded Japanese ultranationalist politicians (the equivalent of the GOP letting Steve King exist because he kept his damn mouth shut), but Shinzo Abe represents a new breed of vocal Japanese ultranationalists getting power in real politics. In fact, he's a special advisor to the parliamentary league of the pro-Emperor, fascist group called Nippon Kaigi, or Japan Conference.

How bad is Japanese ultranationalism? I would like to just point at some of my favorite elements of it via Wikipedia articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Kaigi#Criticism

"Most, but not all, seek to justify Japan's role in the Second World War to varying degrees, deny the war crimes committed by the military during the pre-1945 Shōwa period and are critical of what they see as "self-hate" bias in post-war historical education. Thus, they do not recognize the legality of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East or other allied tribunals; consider the war-criminals enshrined in the Yasukuni Shrine as "Martyrs of Shōwa" (昭和殉難者 Shōwa junnansha); or support the censorship of history textbooks or historical negationism.[4]"

"National Socialist Japanese Workers' Party (国家社会主義日本労働者党 Kokka Shakaishugi Nippon Rōdōsha-Tō) – a small neo-Nazi party headed by Kazunari Yamada, who maintains a website and blog which includes praise for Adolf Hitler and the September 11 attacks.[11] Pictures of Yamada, a Holocaust-denier, posing with Cabinet minister Sanae Takaichi and LDP policy research chief Tomomi Inada were discovered on the website and became a source of controversy; both have denied support for the party.[11]"

Both from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyoku_dantai

And so forth.

What does this have to do with the LDP and Shinzo Abe?

https://apjjf.org/2013/11/1/Narusawa-Muneo/3879/article.html

Oops. Looks a lot like the LDP isn't so much a true political party as it is a kind of mask for fascist monarchists to hide behind, because the party is too goddamn old and too long in power to ever let terrible people in charge!

Now, I said that Japanese politics has been a dumpsterfire for a long time, but the most recent non-Shinzo PMs have been members of the Democratic Party of Japan (Minshuto), a center left group. Roughly from 2009 to 2012, in fact.

The details make this more understandable. See, in Japan, a political party is just a way for people to get re-elected. You might say this is true elsewhere (quite reasonably), but in Japan they're disgustingly blatant about it.

It's true that the LDP is full of horrible slimy creatures, but there are actual non fascists in it. There are socialists in it. There's what we in the west would consider far left politicians in it. The only thing that holds the political parties of Japan together is their lust for power: none of their members have a shared ideology.

Going back to when the DJP got into power in 2009, the New York Times said at that time:

"Political analysts and lawmakers say a defeat could even spell the end of the Liberal Democratic Party, which has appeared outdated with no ideology to bind it together beyond a desire to hold onto power. In its place could emerge new, more modern types of political parties bound together by a shared agenda and principles."

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/world/asia/20iht-20japan.20321139.html

Yep. No ideology, no agenda, no principles lie behind the veil of Japanese political parties. They're blatantly and openly just trying to cling to power.

The DJP is no different. Most of its politicians were from the LDP, including its chairman and other major figures. The fact is, there's no real reason to believe that it was any more "center left" than the LDP is "center right". In fact, labels of left-right are complete nonsense, applied to political parties in Japan (which doesn't stop people from trying).

Ergo, Japanese politics is and has been a dumpsterfire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 22, 2019, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: nullified on February 21, 2019, 04:44:45 PM

<snip>

Ergo, Japanese politics is and has been a dumpsterfire.

Thank you.  That was quite interesting, not to mention disturbing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 28, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Trump adjacent, at least.

This (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/rashida-tlaib-calls-mark-meadows-racist-act-cohen.html) was my favorite part of the Cohen hearing.  Some GOP ass trots out a WOC that was hired by Trump and proceeded to go down the "He can't be racist, he has black friends" road.

Rashida Tlaib was NOT having it, and laid the smackdown.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 03:35:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 28, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Trump adjacent, at least.

This (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/rashida-tlaib-calls-mark-meadows-racist-act-cohen.html) was my favorite part of the Cohen hearing.  Some GOP ass trots out a WOC that was hired by Trump and proceeded to go down the "He can't be racist, he has black friends" road.

Rashida Tlaib was NOT having it, and laid the smackdown.

I love the constant bellowing about a divide in the dems, you know?  When Pelosi put AOC and Tlaib on the oversight committee in their first term.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
Anyone want to give odds on Rand Paul voting against Trump's dumbass emergency?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-pressure-trump-to-back-down-on-border-emergency/ar-BBUdyog?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 28, 2019, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
Anyone want to give odds on Rand Paul voting against Trump's dumbass emergency?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-pressure-trump-to-back-down-on-border-emergency/ar-BBUdyog?ocid=spartanntp

My brain went like this:

"No, because there's too much chaos surrounding it. Anything could happen."

Then,

"See, he's doing that mush mouthing "I don't like this but I have no spine to back up my dislike of it" shit. No way of telling."

And finally,

"What the fuck do you mean Cornyn is giving the bill as written a flat no??? Never mind, I can't give exact odds but they're better than raw chance that he does vote against."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-senate-will-pass-resolution-blocking-trumps-border-emergency/ar-BBUmC4q?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 05, 2019, 12:29:00 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 04, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-senate-will-pass-resolution-blocking-trumps-border-emergency/ar-BBUmC4q?ocid=spartanntp

THE FIRST ONE!!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
Oh, dear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-got-stormy-daniels-story-before-trumps-election-spiked-it-report/ar-BBUlPeV?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 05, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-7JQs-RwY

Burnett leans too heavily on Ivanka for some reason, but regardless, I'm enjoying listening to Nadler speak. He has an "adult in the room" vibe to him. It feels like a lot of the crazy illegal things we've watched for the last 2 years (obstruction of justice, executive overreach, etc) are finally being addressed. Just hearing someone talk about it, who isn't all RAWR WE'VE GOTTA IMPEACH HIM ASAP, but really focused on rule of law and the constitution (which should be a non-partisan issue...), is refreshing.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2019, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 05, 2019, 05:32:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-7JQs-RwY

Burnett leans too heavily on Ivanka for some reason, but regardless, I'm enjoying listening to Nadler speak. He has an "adult in the room" vibe to him. It feels like a lot of the crazy illegal things we've watched for the last 2 years (obstruction of justice, executive overreach, etc) are finally being addressed. Just hearing someone talk about it, who isn't all RAWR WE'VE GOTTA IMPEACH HIM ASAP, but really focused on rule of law and the constitution (which should be a non-partisan issue...), is refreshing.

Nadler is pretty much the authority on this.  When he gets serious, you will know that the situation is serious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2019, 01:46:25 AM
AND THE WINNER IS

http://www.trumphotels.org/?fbclid=IwAR1rwk50extW-D68limxFKeO9eYT5pTtxNI_9bzAKjcwtUPaaEJicxF1S_o
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 07, 2019, 05:53:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 07, 2019, 01:46:25 AM
AND THE WINNER IS

http://www.trumphotels.org/?fbclid=IwAR1rwk50extW-D68limxFKeO9eYT5pTtxNI_9bzAKjcwtUPaaEJicxF1S_o

:horrormirth: :horrormirth:

I feel bad for laughing because this is some pretty serious shit, but I did. This is ingenious satire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on March 11, 2019, 04:19:48 PM
It's down now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 11, 2019, 08:49:34 PM
HEY, I LIKE THIS NEW STRONG PELOSI...

...

...

...

WOMP WOMP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-rules-out-impeaching-trump/ar-BBUDV9B?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on March 11, 2019, 09:22:25 PM
Well, that was nice while it lasted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 11, 2019, 09:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on March 11, 2019, 09:22:25 PM
Well, that was nice while it lasted.

Yep.  And now we have this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-proposes-a-record-dollar475-trillion-budget/ar-BBUDHev?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 11, 2019, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 11, 2019, 08:49:34 PM
HEY, I LIKE THIS NEW STRONG PELOSI...

...

...

...

WOMP WOMP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-rules-out-impeaching-trump/ar-BBUDV9B?ocid=spartanntp

I think she likes having someone she can kick around.  Pence isn't nearly as much of an idiot as Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 14, 2019, 10:38:06 PM
So, the senate voted against Trump's emergency declaration, and now he's freaking the fuck out.

He managed to make a one word tweet.  Given his normal spew, I think that means his blood pressure is up.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:

"Patriot gear."  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 15, 2019, 08:13:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:

The bolded words are my edit of course, because i want to emphasize how ironic and funny is right-wing discourse accusing the "left" and "sjws" of "victim mentality" when they use that rhetoric so often.

Its a very American thing to do too in international politics, thats how the whole "War on Terror" was pitched... "were not attacking YOU were DEFENDING" by bombing civilians half way across the globe
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 15, 2019, 08:13:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:

The bolded words are my edit of course, because i want to emphasize how ironic and funny is right-wing discourse accusing the "left" and "sjws" of "victim mentality" when they use that rhetoric so often.

Its a very American thing to do too in international politics, thats how the whole "War on Terror" was pitched... "were not attacking YOU were DEFENDING" by bombing civilians half way across the globe

The best part about it is that they are totally blind to this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 15, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
BOTH sides have a victim mentality. That's why we need to legalize weed. Then at least we'll have an excuse for why everyone is so damn paranoid all the fucking time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 16, 2019, 01:51:31 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 15, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
BOTH sides

BOTH sides

BOTH sides

Fuck right off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 16, 2019, 08:08:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:

"Patriot gear."  :lulz:

Right?  :lulz:

I think he thought he was being clever talking in code and not just explicitly saying "Hay, yawl! It's git'n about time we start killing libruls... WITH OUR GUNS!" As if he thought people would just assume he meant for everybody to take their tiny flags to the dry cleaner or something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 16, 2019, 08:23:16 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 15, 2019, 08:13:49 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 15, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 15, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
ZyKlown D would like to remind us that he has some super tough guys on his side, and if we don't knock it off, at a "certain point" it could become "very bad, very bad" for us.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-warns-it-would-be-very-bad-if-my-police-biker-gang-fans-decided-to-get-tough-on-my-opponents

PFFFT.  Bring it.

He's a little scared right now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-there-should-be-no-mueller-report/ar-BBUOz8v?ocid=spartanntp

I also am all for the bringing.

I keep seeing these Trumpster SuperPatriots who can't shut up about all the incredibly amazing restraint that they have shown by not shooting the place up yet, but they're seriously on, like, their next to the last straw, and then it's CIVIL WAR TIEM. Seriously, just one or two more straws, and BOOM, they'll let them freedom bullets fly forrealz, and we damn well better not lay a finger on their Lord and Savior Donald Trump, SRSLYFORREALZOMG!!!!

These aren't just Youtube comments, either. I've heard it from local people just a degree or two removed from me. One of my cousin's biker buddies was spouting off on FB about "Everybody check clean and make ready your patriot gear, the Democrats have suddenly turned on America for some reason! If they keep this up they're really gonna get it!", and a local pawn & gun store owner popped in to let everyone know they were welcome to come to her store to gear up for their Super Patriotic Murder Rampage.

I bought a few guns last year, and have been just shooting up some buckets of rubber mulch in the back yard, but if the Trump presidency is about to start swirling the drain I might have to start going to the gun ranges just for the comedic value.


ETA: Also, my former teacher at the local community college has started posting 3%er memes.  :roll:

The bolded words are my edit of course, because i want to emphasize how ironic and funny is right-wing discourse accusing the "left" and "sjws" of "victim mentality" when they use that rhetoric so often.

Its a very American thing to do too in international politics, thats how the whole "War on Terror" was pitched... "were not attacking YOU were DEFENDING" by bombing civilians half way across the globe

I can't think of a specific example at the moment, but I'm sure you've seen enough examples of "If a republican did this, they would be drawn & Quartered while simultaneously being crucified upside down" Yet they feel safe enough to post thinly poorly veiled plans to commit mass murder publicly on social media, and business owners feel safe promoting their gun store in the very same post to the people openly contemplating acts of terrorism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 16, 2019, 09:03:27 AM

QuoteThe white genocide conspiracy theory is a conspiracy theory, generally associated with neo-Nazi, far-right, alt-right, identitarian and white nationalist, supremacist, and white separatism ideologies,[1] which contends that mass immigration, racial integration, miscegenation, low fertility rates, abortion, governmental land-confiscation from whites, organised violence[2] or eliminationism are being promoted in either predominantly white countries, or supposedly white-founded countries. The conspiracy theory contends these actions are to deliberately replace, remove, or liquidate white populations,[3] dismantle white collective power,[4] turn the countries minority-white, and hence cause white people to become extinct through forced assimilation[2] or violent genocide.[5]

Like, could you fucking imagine how that could even be possible?????  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Talk about projective paranoia, where what they think other races want to do to them, is actually their own plan they want to carry out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 16, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Well that's just it, isn't it? The atrocity I claim you're about to commit will justify the atrocity I want to commit.

So much of especially American conservative and far-right output is projection.  Once you start seeing it, it's uncanny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 16, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 16, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Well that's just it, isn't it? The atrocity I claim you're about to commit will justify the atrocity I want to commit.

So much of especially American conservative and far-right output is projection.  Once you start seeing it, it's uncanny.

This reality's defective and I want a refund.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 16, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 16, 2019, 10:46:57 AM
Well that's just it, isn't it? The atrocity I claim you're about to commit will justify the atrocity I want to commit.

So much of especially American conservative and far-right output is projection.  Once you start seeing it, it's uncanny.

That, yeah.  And also something about paying for past sins, and an infinite number of new sins to prevent that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 17, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

As the Conservatives love to point out, Obama also murdered people and put them in cages...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 17, 2019, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 17, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

As the Conservatives love to point out, Obama also murdered people and put them in cages...

You're absolutely right.  I guess I won't bother voting this time, since the situations are absolutely identical, without any form of context.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 18, 2019, 08:55:04 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

Maybe give a good example?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 18, 2019, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 17, 2019, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 17, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

As the Conservatives love to point out, Obama also murdered people and put them in cages...

You're absolutely right.  I guess I won't bother voting this time, since the situations are absolutely identical, without any form of context.

I was actually supporting your argument that minorities and women, unlike the nazis, are not manufacturing their oppression. I'm not suggesting Obama was just as bad.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 17, 2019, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 17, 2019, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

As the Conservatives love to point out, Obama also murdered people and put them in cages...

You're absolutely right.  I guess I won't bother voting this time, since the situations are absolutely identical, without any form of context.

You're strawmanning me. I never said both sides were equally dangerous, just that they're both stupid and paranoid.

Quote from: The Johnny on March 18, 2019, 08:55:04 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 16, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 16, 2019, 02:58:49 AM
But Dok, the whites are whining about losing jobs to poor foreign minorities and the minorities are whining about being murdered and put in cages! Identical!

The abuses introduced by Trump and Bush are real, but my point is people found a way to feel persecuted even when things were going great during the Obama administration

Maybe give a good example?

The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way and rolling out new politically correct terms to replace the old ones (or sometimes refurbished variants of really old ones; how is the term "people of color" any better than the term "colored people", how the fuck is talking like Yoda going to help anybody!? Politically correct speech is just a cheap easy pseudo-solution to a complex problem, the societal equivalent of trying to cure cancer by reciting long-winded prayers). Acting as if the KKK et al were representative of white people (which, BTW, is buying into the KKK's propaganda). Generalizing from isolated incidents. Acting as if non-minorities collectively comprised some kind od illuminati-like secret society that controls everything in an organized fashion. Affirming the consequent (All the politically powerful people are white men. Joe the Bum is a white man. Joe the bum is politically powerful).

Stuff that, while harmless (unlike the right's bullshit which is often actively harmful), is nevertheless really really stupid and undermines people's ability to take the left seriously.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
You're strawmanning me. I never said both sides were equally dangerous, just that they're both stupid and paranoid.

As is ANYONE in politics.  Even if you're a genius, to survive you have to let your paranoia make you stupid.  Some of them were just stupid to begin with, but the results are the same.

This applies to anyone and everyone running for office, anywhere, ever.

Quoteand undermines people's ability to take the left seriously.

Oh, no.  How will the left ever recover from this?

:lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 09:18:16 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM

The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way and rolling out new politically correct terms to replace the old ones (or sometimes refurbished variants of really old ones; how is the term "people of color" any better than the term "colored people", how the fuck is talking like Yoda going to help anybody!? Politically correct speech is just a cheap easy pseudo-solution to a complex problem, the societal equivalent of trying to cure cancer by reciting long-winded prayers). Acting as if the KKK et al were representative of white people (which, BTW, is buying into the KKK's propaganda). Generalizing from isolated incidents. Acting as if non-minorities collectively comprised some kind od illuminati-like secret society that controls everything in an organized fashion. Affirming the consequent (All the politically powerful people are white men. Joe the Bum is a white man. Joe the bum is politically powerful).


You really need to stop huffing that right wing talk radio. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor

Sweet Jesus, shut the fuck up.  You sound like Richard Spencer.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
It's so tragic that PDS has to hear about peoples' gripes.  It's so fucking awful that he has to endlessly listen to shit that NOBODY IS ACTUALLY SAYING.  I mean, aside from AM radio jocks.  I feel just rotten about how PDS's quality of life has dropped based on this entire fiasco, and I hope that Laurie Schlessinger and Sean Hannity can help him out by owning the libs about all of this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 18, 2019, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
It's so tragic that PDS has to hear about peoples' gripes.  It's so fucking awful that he has to endlessly listen to shit that NOBODY IS ACTUALLY SAYING.  I mean, aside from AM radio jocks.  I feel just rotten about how PDS's quality of life has dropped based on this entire fiasco, and I hope that Laurie Schlessinger and Sean Hannity can help him out by owning the libs about all of this.

I wanted to say this, but I wanted to say it with my ass, and it's hard to get your point across with your ass without a keyboard you can /feel/.

Thanks for covering me
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 18, 2019, 11:56:51 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way and rolling out new politically correct terms to replace the old ones (or sometimes refurbished variants of really old ones; how is the term "people of color" any better than the term "colored people", how the fuck is talking like Yoda going to help anybody!? Politically correct speech is just a cheap easy pseudo-solution to a complex problem, the societal equivalent of trying to cure cancer by reciting long-winded prayers). Acting as if the KKK et al were representative of white people (which, BTW, is buying into the KKK's propaganda). Generalizing from isolated incidents. Acting as if non-minorities collectively comprised some kind od illuminati-like secret society that controls everything in an organized fashion. Affirming the consequent (All the politically powerful people are white men. Joe the Bum is a white man. Joe the bum is politically powerful).

Stuff that, while harmless (unlike the right's bullshit which is often actively harmful), is nevertheless really really stupid and undermines people's ability to take the left seriously.

Like, your perspective seems a bit tainted by a type of reductionism that i would like to call "presentism" (as if present reality is the only factor in peoples lives, and history or the past is a non-factor)... native americans or american-indians, whatever theyre called, still indirectly suffer from having been massacred and their lands being taken away, in which their ancestors trauma was so great that even today theyre the population with the worst problems of alcoholism besides eastern europeans from war-torn zones. Then, besides transgenerational scars of trauma, theres the transgenerational economic factors and accumulation of capital, in which one group enriched themselves at the cost of another group, guess whos children or grandchildren will be at a disadvantage?

PC speech and terminology i dont see how it has anything to do with the matter? That seems more of an issue of discussion framing and group identity, more than self-victimization. And i might be wrong, but i really doubt that anyone thinks that changing the use of words is the end solution for racism/sexism.

And i mean, the KKK are PRETTY CLOSE to being the representatives of white people just from the fact that Trump got elected as president... its been interpreted that Trump won, primarly as a revenge vote for having a "negroe" Obama in office for two terms, and such "offense" couldnt go unpunished.

And well, sure, theres white poor people that are just as fucked as minorities, BUT if i was presented with a number of babies, and required to make a bet just based off of race on who would be more likely to succeed, i would hands down always bet on the white baby, not because hes superior or whatever, but because statistically hes more likely.

So maybe i can understand the left's approach to issues as sometimes being obnoxious or innefective, but thats completely different from "playing victim".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 19, 2019, 12:57:01 AM
Also, never forget sometimes the best way to get someone's attention is to be fucking obnoxious. Obnoxiousness is a skill to be honed for maximum utility. It is probably the first skill an agitator should learn, no matter their cause.

Admittedly, there is the old trap of having your only tool be a hammer. And I forget what all is in my toolbox sometimes, so something about sharpness, lightbulbs and cupboards probably also applies.

ETA: That statistically increased likelihood for the white baby is more a function of a fantastically racist system run by fantastically racist people. Take that out of the picture and... well, we don't know.

The best data we have is historic Timbuktu, a bastion of wealth and knowledge from the confluence of early Islamic mathematicians and the absurdly lucrative salt trade. It was probably predominantly black, though it's hard to be entirely sure due to a dearth of historical data (thanks to, huh, /slavery/) and the Arabic — wouldn't ya know it, /slavetrade/.

It's almost as if throughout history African nations and people and cultures have been fucked over by multiple world powers, east and west.

(The sarcasm and bile directed mostly at PDS, not you Johnny.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that?

Through perpetuating a system where that continues to impact on black people to this day?

I mean, duh?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 18, 2019, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2019, 10:34:22 PM
It's so tragic that PDS has to hear about peoples' gripes.  It's so fucking awful that he has to endlessly listen to shit that NOBODY IS ACTUALLY SAYING.  I mean, aside from AM radio jocks.  I feel just rotten about how PDS's quality of life has dropped based on this entire fiasco, and I hope that Laurie Schlessinger and Sean Hannity can help him out by owning the libs about all of this.

I wanted to say this, but I wanted to say it with my ass, and it's hard to get your point across with your ass without a keyboard you can /feel/.

Thanks for covering me

This is why I bought  the good keyboard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that?

Through perpetuating a system where that continues to impact on black people to this day?

I mean, duh?

Be kind to our sea lion friends.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 19, 2019, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way and rolling out new politically correct terms to replace the old ones (or sometimes refurbished variants of really old ones; how is the term "people of color" any better than the term "colored people", how the fuck is talking like Yoda going to help anybody!? Politically correct speech is just a cheap easy pseudo-solution to a complex problem, the societal equivalent of trying to cure cancer by reciting long-winded prayers). Acting as if the KKK et al were representative of white people (which, BTW, is buying into the KKK's propaganda). Generalizing from isolated incidents. Acting as if non-minorities collectively comprised some kind od illuminati-like secret society that controls everything in an organized fashion. Affirming the consequent (All the politically powerful people are white men. Joe the Bum is a white man. Joe the bum is politically powerful).

Stuff that, while harmless (unlike the right's bullshit which is often actively harmful), is nevertheless really really stupid and undermines people's ability to take the left seriously.

Wow.



There's a lot to unpack here, but I'd rather just set it on fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 19, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way

the continued existence of racism and sexism is about people thinking the wrong way. Better language is one way of addressing it.

but we also live in a world where speech is a form of action

It's hard to visualize a world where racism has ended but people still use racist language. Combatting racist language is one form of making the world less racist.

Quoteand rolling out new politically correct terms to replace the old ones (or sometimes refurbished variants of really old ones; how is the term "people of color" any better than the term "colored people", how the fuck is talking like Yoda going to help anybody!?

There's something to be said for a group choosing the name they want to be called, instead of everybody insisting on using the name that was in use when they weren't allowed in the same pool as white people.

a recent Contrapoints video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtj7LDYaufM) talks about this -- she calls out this George Carlin bit where he is complaining about how airlines started saying "People with special needs can board the plane first", whereas they should have just told the TRUTH which is to call them CRIPPLES. These PC people are ruining everything!

Except not everybody that needs to board the plane first is crippled. Some might be elderly, or pregnant, or sick, or any number of things. Also, the word CRIPPLE has a lot of emotional baggage attached to it, it makes people feel bad to be called a cripple.

So why would we stick with a word that's innaccurate and makes people feel bad? Is it so bad to say a few extra words? Everybody who's "anti-PC" has this "Hard Truth tellin" vibe to their arguments .. but isn't the deeper truth that they don't actually care how those people feel?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 19, 2019, 06:59:24 PM
Not to strawman or anything, but PDS: did you protest when gay people said they didn't want to be called "faggot" anymore?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 19, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
PDS is a presumably living, probably breathing example of the damage that centrism and libertarian sympathies do to the frontal cortex of the brain. In a few years he'll be saying there's good white nationalists and why do you want to hurt their feelings by associating them with the shitty ones?

He should be framed and hung in a gallery of gruesome disease photographs, castings and other terrible examples of the dangers of modern living. A cautionary tale, shown to children who start listening to Burzum, reading Ayn Rand, or supporting tax cuts on the rich.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 19, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor

Because black people aren't just poor because of slavery, rich white people are rich because of it too. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 08:39:19 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
PDS is a presumably living, probably breathing example of the damage that centrism and libertarian sympathies do to the frontal cortex of the brain. In a few years he'll be saying there's good white nationalists and why do you want to hurt their feelings by associating them with the shitty ones?

He should be framed and hung in a gallery of gruesome disease photographs, castings and other terrible examples of the dangers of modern living. A cautionary tale, shown to children who start listening to Burzum, reading Ayn Rand, or supporting tax cuts on the rich.

Concur. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that?

Through perpetuating a system where that continues to impact on black people to this day?

None of them are perpetuating slavery though. You're moving the goalposts. I'm not saying that they can't complain about things that are actually still things like unequal sentencing, and police brutality, and employment discrimination. There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do. There's things they can do against other forms of discrimination, but there's nothing they can do about slavery specifically that hasn't already been done.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 19, 2019, 09:50:22 PM

The only one making a statement that racism and wealth inequality perpetuates slavery is actually you, as a strawman. Nobody else said it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 19, 2019, 09:56:53 PM
Let's chop PDS's wank hand off then tell every doctor he can go to that that hand is his wank hand and he likes to spank it to deformed squirrels falling out of trees, so that his wank hand is impossible for him to replace with a prosthetic.

Let's get it put into law that PDS and his descendants can not replace a lost wank hand, because they're degenerates and can't be trusted with that power.

Then since he lacks one hand, even if it is his disgusting private time hand, he'll end up forced into working jobs where hand loss is common, since he's already gotten one to go missing, where's the harm, right?

His descendants will join the family business of chainsaw catching for loggers in the Amazon, and each of them will in turn lose their wank hands before they so much as get a chance to use them. It is illegal for them to replace them, so just as soon as they learn that maybe dear ol dad's career fucking sucks, they end up locked into it.

One hundred years from now, when all the perpetrators of this hilarity are long since dead, PDS would prefer we don't worry about the new, equality focused version of the law, whereby loss of wank hand is simply made illegal for everyone, and you must spend a token amount on a simple prosthetic.

Even though his kids can't afford it because they've all been catching chainsaws for peanuts in the tropical wilderness and had to spend their life savings getting the guinea worm and screwfly infestations dealt with, so they're unable to buy a prosthetic or even just make a new wank hand out of rusty wire, foam padding and duct tape, its not discriminatory anymore and everyone responsible for it is dead anyway so it's all just fine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 19, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor

Because black people aren't just poor because of slavery, rich white people are rich because of it too.

None of the rich people that are around today were actually a part of it even if it benefited them indirectly. Their hands are clean (on this matter at any rate, I'm sure most of them have done other highly unethical things, but that's entirely beside the point). How can someone be accountable for something that happened before they were born? That's like trashing jewish and/or italian people for the death of jesus. That's like saying that the christian doctrine of original sin isn't flagrant bullshit. That's like saying that Dennis Rader's children are complicit in the BTK murders. That's like saying that the dead aren't dead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 09:56:53 PM
Let's chop PDS's wank hand off then tell every doctor he can go to that that hand is his wank hand and he likes to spank it to deformed squirrels falling out of trees, so that his wank hand is impossible for him to replace with a prosthetic.

Let's get it put into law that PDS and his descendants can not replace a lost wank hand, because they're degenerates and can't be trusted with that power.

Then since he lacks one hand, even if it is his disgusting private time hand, he'll end up forced into working jobs where hand loss is common, since he's already gotten one to go missing, where's the harm, right?

His descendants will join the family business of chainsaw catching for loggers in the Amazon, and each of them will in turn lose their wank hands before they so much as get a chance to use them. It is illegal for them to replace them, so just as soon as they learn that maybe dear ol dad's career fucking sucks, they end up locked into it.

One hundred years from now, when all the perpetrators of this hilarity are long since dead, PDS would prefer we don't worry about the new, equality focused version of the law, whereby loss of wank hand is simply made illegal for everyone, and you must spend a token amount on a simple prosthetic.

Even though his kids can't afford it because they've all been catching chainsaws for peanuts in the tropical wilderness and had to spend their life savings getting the guinea worm and screwfly infestations dealt with, so they're unable to buy a prosthetic or even just make a new wank hand out of rusty wire, foam padding and duct tape, its not discriminatory anymore and everyone responsible for it is dead anyway so it's all just fine.

I wish this would fit in Newsfeed.  :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 19, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor

Because black people aren't just poor because of slavery, rich white people are rich because of it too.

None of the rich people that are around today were actually a part of it even if it benefited them indirectly. Their hands are clean (on this matter at any rate, I'm sure most of them have done other highly unethical things, but that's entirely beside the point). How can someone be accountable for something that happened before they were born? That's like trashing jewish and/or italian people for the death of jesus. That's like saying that the christian doctrine of original sin isn't flagrant bullshit. That's like saying that Dennis Rader's children are complicit in the BTK murders. That's like saying that the dead aren't dead.

You should probably stop.

But you won't.

Keep screeching.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 19, 2019, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 19, 2019, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that? That's the part that bugs me. Even if people are still being very indirectly victimized it's not like any of the people responsible for it are still around to extract compensation from. Slavery has already ended, and the people responsible for it are all long dead. It may be true that black people are poor because their ancestors were poor because their ancestors' ancestors were slaves, but dwelling on the instigating factor that started it isn't going to do a damn thing to end the cycle of poverty. Dwelling on slavery is a distraction from ongoing problems like the discriminatory hiring and housing policies mentioned later in that same article and, most importantly of all, the general lack of upward economic mobility for the poor

Because black people aren't just poor because of slavery, rich white people are rich because of it too.

None of the rich people that are around today were actually a part of it even if it benefited them indirectly. Their hands are clean (on this matter at any rate, I'm sure most of them have done other highly unethical things, but that's entirely beside the point). How can someone be accountable for something that happened before they were born? That's like trashing jewish and/or italian people for the death of jesus. That's like saying that the christian doctrine of original sin isn't flagrant bullshit. That's like saying that Dennis Rader's children are complicit in the BTK murders. That's like saying that the dead aren't dead.

So if say, i steal all your money, open a bank account for my (hypothetical) son, deposit all the stolen money in my son's bank account... then immediately after its done, i off myself off of this planet, my son should be able to keep all the money i took away from you?


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on March 19, 2019, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 19, 2019, 06:59:24 PM
Not to strawman or anything, but PDS: did you protest when gay people said they didn't want to be called "faggot" anymore?

Just a quick observation about the vagaries of language and the ease with which your meaning can get inadvertently screwed:
gay person here, but I've never, ever, been called a faggot, though a neighbour did once call me a rug-muncher to my face. It made me laugh.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 19, 2019, 10:38:56 PM
Trans women regardless of sexuality tend to have some personal experience with that term as well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on March 19, 2019, 11:19:56 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 10:38:56 PM
Trans women regardless of sexuality tend to have some personal experience with that term as well.

Faggot or rug-muncher?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 19, 2019, 11:28:08 PM
The first. Trans lesbians may have experience with both, which is just an exciting future in store for me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on March 19, 2019, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 11:28:08 PM
The first. Trans lesbians may have experience with both, which is just an exciting future in store for me.

Aah, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.

Fuck convict leasing, prison slavery is a thing to this day. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/866583376265977856?lang=en
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:30:09 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2019, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 09:56:53 PM

Even though his kids can't afford it because they've all been catching chainsaws for peanuts in the tropical wilderness and had to spend their life savings getting the guinea worm and screwfly infestations dealt with, so they're unable to buy a prosthetic or even just make a new wank hand out of rusty wire, foam padding and duct tape, its not discriminatory anymore and everyone responsible for it is dead anyway so it's all just fine.

I wish this would fit in Newsfeed.  :lol:

It's long, but that last paragraph hits most of the high points, I think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.

Fuck convict leasing, prison slavery is a thing to this day. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/866583376265977856?lang=en

https://www.thenation.com/article/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor/

But slavery is over you guys!!! Not the same at all!!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries

Equality! So it isn't racist!

http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/FT_18.01.10_PrisonRaceGaps_2.png


FUCK


PDS can eat my entire ass and choke on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:56:43 AM
And let's not even get into how drug laws were fucking invented to keep minorities under the control of whites, or how the vast majority of non-white convicts landed themselves a stint in jail for non-violent drug offenses, or how criminal sentences land heavier on people of color on average, or or or...

Fuck this colorblind "racism is over and slavery is ancient history" privileged whitebread bullshit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 19, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way

the continued existence of racism and sexism is about people thinking the wrong way. Better language is one way of addressing it.

but we also live in a world where speech is a form of action

It's hard to visualize a world where racism has ended but people still use racist language. Combatting racist language is one form of making the world less racist.

And yet the continued need for new terms shows that this approach doesn't work. One year's politically correct term is the next year's racist term.

Quote from: Cramulus on March 19, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
So why would we stick with a word that's innaccurate and makes people feel bad? Is it so bad to say a few extra words? Everybody who's "anti-PC" has this "Hard Truth tellin" vibe to their arguments .. but isn't the deeper truth that they don't actually care how those people feel?

How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.

And a person who did care how people feel would be a poor choice to depend on for the truth. (Imagime, for example, a world where serious people of learning cared about the sense of comfort and belonging that people get from believing in a higher power.)

Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 12:57:01 AM
Also, never forget sometimes the best way to get someone's attention is to be fucking obnoxious. Obnoxiousness is a skill to be honed for maximum utility. It is probably the first skill an agitator should learn, no matter their cause.

Well excuse me for not being swayed by people using the same debate tactics as Donald Trump. I'm sure you're all very stable geniuses.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.


And this, right here folks, is where any person, regardless of anything, drops off my give-a-fuck list.

If you don't care about how people feel, you are a fucking idiot. Not caring about how people feel is /diagnosable/. It's clinical sociopathy.

As a sociopath, by default, you are a little monster. You aren't part of the human tribe, because you don't give a fuck about that tribe. This follows because psychological well-being is proven to have a direct connection to real world outcomes. Miserable people are less effective and they fucking die earlier.

If you were a part of the human tribe, you'd care about that to at least some extent and want to minimize it for your clique in the tribe at least, bare minimum. That you do not makes you innately not a good person, because you bring nothing to the table for improving things. But it doesn't make you necessarily a bad person either.

Here is the thing, though. One day you might be a bad person. A big monster. Sociopaths so often do end up that way. Serial killers, cult leaders, the list continues.

The sociopath often creates more human suffering, since they don't care about how people are impacted by it. Those who hit that stage are all terrible. The world would be genuinely be better off without such people in it.

I want nothing to do with that, and so I want nothing to do with you. I'll just pretend you don't exist beyond the role of punching bag. Not that you should /care/, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 01:37:40 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 19, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
The usual bullshit. Talking about slavery as if it had happened to them rather than having ended 30 or 40 years before the oldest people in the world were born. Blaming the continued existence of racism and sexism on people talking the wrong way

the continued existence of racism and sexism is about people thinking the wrong way. Better language is one way of addressing it.

but we also live in a world where speech is a form of action

It's hard to visualize a world where racism has ended but people still use racist language. Combatting racist language is one form of making the world less racist.

And yet the continued need for new terms shows that this approach doesn't work. One year's politically correct term is the next year's racist term.

Quote from: Cramulus on March 19, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
So why would we stick with a word that's innaccurate and makes people feel bad? Is it so bad to say a few extra words? Everybody who's "anti-PC" has this "Hard Truth tellin" vibe to their arguments .. but isn't the deeper truth that they don't actually care how those people feel?

How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.

And a person who did care how people feel would be a poor choice to depend on for the truth. (Imagime, for example, a world where serious people of learning cared about the sense of comfort and belonging that people get from believing in a higher power.)

Quote from: nullified on March 19, 2019, 12:57:01 AM
Also, never forget sometimes the best way to get someone's attention is to be fucking obnoxious. Obnoxiousness is a skill to be honed for maximum utility. It is probably the first skill an agitator should learn, no matter their cause.

Well excuse me for not being swayed by people using the same debate tactics as Donald Trump. I'm sure you're all very stable geniuses.

We get it.  You're a proudboy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 01:39:06 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.


And this, right here folks, is where any person, regardless of anything, drops off my give-a-fuck list.

If you don't care about how people feel, you are a fucking idiot. Not caring about how people feel is /diagnosable/. It's clinical sociopathy.

As a sociopath, by default, you are a little monster. You aren't part of the human tribe, because you don't give a fuck about that tribe. This follows because psychological well-being is proven to have a direct connection to real world outcomes. Miserable people are less effective and they fucking die earlier.

If you were a part of the human tribe, you'd care about that to at least some extent and want to minimize it for your clique in the tribe at least, bare minimum. That you do not makes you innately not a good person, because you bring nothing to the table for improving things. But it doesn't make you necessarily a bad person either.

Here is the thing, though. One day you might be a bad person. A big monster. Sociopaths so often do end up that way. Serial killers, cult leaders, the list continues.

The sociopath often creates more human suffering, since they don't care about how people are impacted by it. Those who hit that stage are all terrible. The world would be genuinely be better off without such people in it.

I want nothing to do with that, and so I want nothing to do with you. I'll just pretend you don't exist beyond the role of punching bag. Not that you should /care/, right?

He's always been a useless edge-master.  He is good for precisely two things:

1.  Taking a funny thread idea and loading it down with 300 line posts until the joke is smashed into paste (fortune cookie thread, etc), and
2.  That's it, really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 20, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Fun thing I noticed. Debates tend to be kinda boring and one sided when a person being wrong is so wrong that basically everybodys against them. Not that I wished this particular topic had any power to sway forum consencus.

Still, there must be a theoretical opinion, that would split the crowd neatly by the middle. Is there any research done about this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 07:39:30 AM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 20, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Fun thing I noticed. Debates tend to be kinda boring and one sided when a person being wrong is so wrong that basically everybodys against them. Not that I wished this particular topic had any power to sway forum consencus.

Still, there must be a theoretical opinion, that would split the crowd neatly by the middle. Is there any research done about this?

Yes actually, theres this pair of internationally renowned scientists by the name of Sire and Aidrocsid that published a couple of papers in this very forum!

https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,34331.0.html (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,34331.0.html)

https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32516.0.html (https://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32516.0.html)

As the conclusions seem to be intertwined in the text itself without a proper and dedicated section of "Conclusions", ill ennumerate them for you. So for a debate to actually be a productive activity (rather than just a recreational one) theres a number of items of a checklist that must be present:

1) All participants must be multicellular organisms, display some sort of sentience and posses an ability to communicate! Do not be easily fooled by some entities capacity to enunciate words in a grammatically approriate manner, for that does not denote neither sentience nor an ability to communicate! Weve noticed that certain species of parrots have acquired the ability to utilize keyboards, and altho they can mimic the usage of language they arent actually communicating! Weve also been notified of advanced chat drones that although can simulate conversations, in fact arent sentient and are just running conditioned iterations!

2) After weve established that the participant is indeed not a technologicaly saavy parrot not a drone, the participant must be able to be receptive to new information, which itself implies an ability to learn - but since the worlds educational systems are mostly based around memorization rather than true learning, people not only dread the thought of learning, but also dont know how to do it! Thus expecting someone to be receptive to new information or points of view sometimes is too much to ask, because it might make a boo boo on their precious Weltanschauung that they desperately clutch to with both hands.

Im sure theres other items to this checklist, but i ran out of steam  :roll:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.


And this, right here folks, is where any person, regardless of anything, drops off my give-a-fuck list.

If you don't care about how people feel, you are a fucking idiot. Not caring about how people feel is /diagnosable/. It's clinical sociopathy.

As a sociopath, by default, you are a little monster. You aren't part of the human tribe, because you don't give a fuck about that tribe. This follows because psychological well-being is proven to have a direct connection to real world outcomes. Miserable people are less effective and they fucking die earlier.

If you were a part of the human tribe, you'd care about that to at least some extent and want to minimize it for your clique in the tribe at least, bare minimum. That you do not makes you innately not a good person, because you bring nothing to the table for improving things. But it doesn't make you necessarily a bad person either.

Here is the thing, though. One day you might be a bad person. A big monster. Sociopaths so often do end up that way. Serial killers, cult leaders, the list continues.

The sociopath often creates more human suffering, since they don't care about how people are impacted by it. Those who hit that stage are all terrible. The world would be genuinely be better off without such people in it.

I want nothing to do with that, and so I want nothing to do with you. I'll just pretend you don't exist beyond the role of punching bag. Not that you should /care/, right?
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die), I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds). I have to go out of my way to not care how people feel. And not to identify with any major group. If you care how people feel and identify as part of a group it opens you up to all sorts of delusional thinking. Appeal to emotion, appeal to consequences, appeal to empathy, appeal to flattery, appeal to pity, tone policing, guilt by association, honor by association, argumentum ad populum, groupthink, tribalism, etc, etc, etc.

I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will. I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 20, 2019, 08:05:15 AM
So you can totally not understand humans better?  :? :? :?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:07:29 AM
Identification is a soirce of bias. Only by being detached from a thing (and preferably making empirical measurements) can one understand it.

EDIT:
For example, Look at all the racist pseudoscience that came out of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries. The course of anthropological science was set back by 250 years because these assclowns couldn't put aside their vain petty affiliatiom with the white race and actually gather and examine their fucking data in an empirical manner. But instead they were compelled by their attachments to aggrandize their own tribe and somehow actually convinced themselves that race mattered in the context of day to day life (rather than only ever mattering in the context of the butterfly effect)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 20, 2019, 08:17:12 AM
Maybe you should find another subject besides humans, then?


Since you seem determines to be bad at it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 20, 2019, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 07:39:30 AM
Yes actually, theres this pair of internationally renowned scientists by the name of Sire and Aidrocsid that published a couple of papers in this very forum!


Very appreciated, I'll report back after reading through some of the 300 pages!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on March 20, 2019, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.


And this, right here folks, is where any person, regardless of anything, drops off my give-a-fuck list.

If you don't care about how people feel, you are a fucking idiot. Not caring about how people feel is /diagnosable/. It's clinical sociopathy.

As a sociopath, by default, you are a little monster. You aren't part of the human tribe, because you don't give a fuck about that tribe. This follows because psychological well-being is proven to have a direct connection to real world outcomes. Miserable people are less effective and they fucking die earlier.

If you were a part of the human tribe, you'd care about that to at least some extent and want to minimize it for your clique in the tribe at least, bare minimum. That you do not makes you innately not a good person, because you bring nothing to the table for improving things. But it doesn't make you necessarily a bad person either.

Here is the thing, though. One day you might be a bad person. A big monster. Sociopaths so often do end up that way. Serial killers, cult leaders, the list continues.

The sociopath often creates more human suffering, since they don't care about how people are impacted by it. Those who hit that stage are all terrible. The world would be genuinely be better off without such people in it.

I want nothing to do with that, and so I want nothing to do with you. I'll just pretend you don't exist beyond the role of punching bag. Not that you should /care/, right?
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die), I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds). I have to go out of my way to not care how people feel. And not to identify with any major group. If you care how people feel and identify as part of a group it opens you up to all sorts of delusional thinking. Appeal to emotion, appeal to consequences, appeal to empathy, appeal to flattery, appeal to pity, tone policing, guilt by association, honor by association, argumentum ad populum, groupthink, tribalism, etc, etc, etc.

I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will. I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)

So, you do care... you just try not to. Cool.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2019, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: MMIX on March 19, 2019, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 19, 2019, 06:59:24 PM
Not to strawman or anything, but PDS: did you protest when gay people said they didn't want to be called "faggot" anymore?
Just a quick observation about the vagaries of language and the ease with which your meaning can get inadvertently screwed:
gay person here, but I've never, ever, been called a faggot, though a neighbour did once call me a rug-muncher to my face. It made me laugh.

I think that's pretty awesome.  Sadly, you may not want to visit Boston any time soon.

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
I don't care how ANY people feel.


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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:49:28 PM
What's wrong with Boston? Since I have every intent of moving back there when my life is gathered together a bit again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2019, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 12:49:28 PM
What's wrong with Boston? Since I have every intent of moving back there when my life is gathered together a bit again.

Oh, it's just that I've heard people yell "faggot" loudly and often.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 12:52:08 PM
Ah. I guess in the parts I was in that somehow didn't happen a whole lot. Unless this is something very (like, September ish or later?) recent, or you're more on the south side I guess.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2019, 12:57:51 PM
Gay nights at clubs in college-heavy neighborhoods can often incite the knuckle-draggers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 20, 2019, 01:03:24 PM
Oooh. I just didn't go out at all. I meant to but time, motivation, location and knowledge were all lacking. Good to know, thanks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 01:17:22 AM
How ANY people feel. I don't care how ANY people feel.


And this, right here folks, is where any person, regardless of anything, drops off my give-a-fuck list.

If you don't care about how people feel, you are a fucking idiot. Not caring about how people feel is /diagnosable/. It's clinical sociopathy.

As a sociopath, by default, you are a little monster. You aren't part of the human tribe, because you don't give a fuck about that tribe. This follows because psychological well-being is proven to have a direct connection to real world outcomes. Miserable people are less effective and they fucking die earlier.

If you were a part of the human tribe, you'd care about that to at least some extent and want to minimize it for your clique in the tribe at least, bare minimum. That you do not makes you innately not a good person, because you bring nothing to the table for improving things. But it doesn't make you necessarily a bad person either.

Here is the thing, though. One day you might be a bad person. A big monster. Sociopaths so often do end up that way. Serial killers, cult leaders, the list continues.

The sociopath often creates more human suffering, since they don't care about how people are impacted by it. Those who hit that stage are all terrible. The world would be genuinely be better off without such people in it.

I want nothing to do with that, and so I want nothing to do with you. I'll just pretend you don't exist beyond the role of punching bag. Not that you should /care/, right?
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die), I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds). I have to go out of my way to not care how people feel. And not to identify with any major group. If you care how people feel and identify as part of a group it opens you up to all sorts of delusional thinking. Appeal to emotion, appeal to consequences, appeal to empathy, appeal to flattery, appeal to pity, tone policing, guilt by association, honor by association, argumentum ad populum, groupthink, tribalism, etc, etc, etc.

I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will. I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)

you might be on to something

enough brain damage will definitely make you a genius

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die),
That is an emotional reaction, induced by your identification with humans as a group.  Do you care about the wellbeing of rodents, or insects, or small rocks?  Do you have an objective reason for caring more about one than the other?

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I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds).
A person's feelings (emotional state) can kill them.  Depression-related suicide is a thing.  Treating emotional and physical well-being separately is not valid.

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I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will.
Are you attached to the idea of freeing yourself from attachments?

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I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)
You seem to have a strong bias for becoming bias free.  This is a logical error.  Being open minded means not dismissing new data when it doesn't match your preconceptions.  It does not mean that you are not allowed to make interim conclusions from the available data, or negatively weight data which is clearly suspect.  You need not spend significant effort studying evidence that the Earth is flat.

"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos." --Jim Hightower
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 20, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Fun thing I noticed. Debates tend to be kinda boring and one sided when a person being wrong is so wrong that basically everybodys against them. Not that I wished this particular topic had any power to sway forum consencus.

Still, there must be a theoretical opinion, that would split the crowd neatly by the middle. Is there any research done about this?

This isn't a debate.

But yes, there are such levers available, at least from a trolling POV.  For example, walking into a political debate page and saying "Can anyone explain to me WHY I should side with either the Israelis or the Palestinians?"

This is a case where there is no actual self-interest, but everyone freaks out pretty much 50/50.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM

I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die), I just don't care about their feelings

Nobody cares.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die),
That is an emotional reaction, induced by your identification with humans as a group.  Do you care about the wellbeing of rodents, or insects, or small rocks?  Do you have an objective reason for caring more about one than the other?

Quote
I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds).
A person's feelings (emotional state) can kill them.  Depression-related suicide is a thing.  Treating emotional and physical well-being separately is not valid.

Quote
I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will.
Are you attached to the idea of freeing yourself from attachments?

Quote
I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)
You seem to have a strong bias for becoming bias free.  This is a logical error.  Being open minded means not dismissing new data when it doesn't match your preconceptions.  It does not mean that you are not allowed to make interim conclusions from the available data, or negatively weight data which is clearly suspect.  You need not spend significant effort studying evidence that the Earth is flat.

"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos." --Jim Hightower

He's one of those useless gobs of shit that thinks that you can subtract human emotions from human systems and get an accurate picture.

Sort of like saying you can subtract all the screaming people from around the horse in Guernica to understand what Picasso was trying to say.  It's deliberately damaging inbound signal.  It is the hallmark of the IDIOT.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 20, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:02:36 PM

But yes, there are such levers available, at least from a trolling POV.  For example, walking into a political debate page and saying "Can anyone explain to me WHY I should side with either the Israelis or the Palestinians?"

Don't leave me hanging So which one is it? :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on March 20, 2019, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:01:11 AM
I care about people's physical wellbeing (or, at least, about whether they live or die),
That is an emotional reaction, induced by your identification with humans as a group.  Do you care about the wellbeing of rodents, or insects, or small rocks?  Do you have an objective reason for caring more about one than the other?

Quote
I just don't care about their feelings (especially since these two concerns are often at odds).
A person's feelings (emotional state) can kill them.  Depression-related suicide is a thing.  Treating emotional and physical well-being separately is not valid.

Quote
I have not actually freed myself from these attachments completely. With luck someday I will.
Are you attached to the idea of freeing yourself from attachments?

Quote
I'd like to someday reach a point where no emotion enters my mind when assessing the truth or falsehood or a situation, and where I feel absolutely no connection whatsoever to any race, religion, ethnicity, nation, or gender. (I've given some idle consideration to having surgery on my amygdala and/or cingulum)
You seem to have a strong bias for becoming bias free.  This is a logical error.  Being open minded means not dismissing new data when it doesn't match your preconceptions.  It does not mean that you are not allowed to make interim conclusions from the available data, or negatively weight data which is clearly suspect.  You need not spend significant effort studying evidence that the Earth is flat.

"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow stripe and dead armadillos." --Jim Hightower

He's one of those useless gobs of shit that thinks that you can subtract human emotions from human systems and get an accurate picture.

Sort of like saying you can subtract all the screaming people from around the horse in Guernica to understand what Picasso was trying to say.  It's deliberately damaging inbound signal.  It is the hallmark of the IDIOT.

If he isn't a Rand stan, he should be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:07:29 AM
Identification is a soirce of bias. Only by being detached from a thing (and preferably making empirical measurements) can one understand it.

EDIT:
For example, Look at all the racist pseudoscience that came out of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries. The course of anthropological science was set back by 250 years because these assclowns couldn't put aside their vain petty affiliatiom with the white race and actually gather and examine their fucking data in an empirical manner. But instead they were compelled by their attachments to aggrandize their own tribe and somehow actually convinced themselves that race mattered in the context of day to day life (rather than only ever mattering in the context of the butterfly effect)

Or look at the DUMBASS saying that 80% of human interaction (emotion) doesn't count because he doesn't like it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PM
He prob missed that the Vulcans are written as badly flawed characters, not ideal ones.

And that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.



In Beezlebub's Tales, there's a made-up term 'Hasnamuss'. It refers to someone who is real intellectual, and therefore thinks of themselves as the Homo Superior -- but yet has a diminished sensitivity and capacity to relate to others. They have lots of information, but no understanding, due to a lack of experience managing real life situations involving other people. This makes them some of the most dangerous people on the planet.

There's a parable about how humanity, at one point in prehistory, manages to overcome all these ego-related issues like vanity, territoriality, paranoia, the collective madness that drives us to war, etc... but then it gets destroyed when a hasnamuss invents politics.

I can get where the desire comes from - I too once thought that the world would be better off if we were all just rational computer-people. But emotions are an important component of processing how things really are - by blinding yourself to them, you're operating at diminished capacity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PM

And that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.



Boom.  Boom, I say.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
Eliezer Yudkowsky himself wrote an essay (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SqF8cHjJv43mvJJzx/feeling-rational) maintaining that a lack of emotion isn't rational.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 06:22:17 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PM
He prob missed that the Vulcans are written as badly flawed characters, not ideal ones.

And that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.
I mostly grew out of that in my early twenties.  Fragments remain, in the form of some cognitive inflexibility, and a certain glee in committing ad logicam (I don't care if your beliefs are correct, your reasons for believing them are WRONG!)

It broke down when I found that pure rationality reduces to a type of nihilism.  Logic is a useful tool for answering questions, or helping you achieve your goals, but it won't tell you what basic questions you need to ask, or what your goals should be.

"What do you want?"  There is no logical answer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 20, 2019, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 06:22:17 PM
"What do you want?"  There is no logical answer.



(http://images.45cat.com/the-godfathers-birth-school-work-death-1987-6.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PMAnd that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.

Oh, I'm well aware that rejection of emotion can lead counterproductively to pride, and that trying to cancel out passions and attachment with contempt is a hamfisted solution and will never balance correctly, but I don't have a better solution.

Also, I'm not really talking about elimination emotion and concern about emotion entirely, just eliminating it from attempts to determine what is true, or what is viable. Emotion can't tell you about anything other than itself. You can't determine anything about the real world through a priori reasoning
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PM
He prob missed that the Vulcans are written as badly flawed characters, not ideal ones.

And that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.

In Beezlebub's Tales, there's a made-up term 'Hasnamuss'. It refers to someone who is real intellectual, and therefore thinks of themselves as the Homo Superior -- but yet has a diminished sensitivity and capacity to relate to others. They have lots of information, but no understanding, due to a lack of experience managing real life situations involving other people. This makes them some of the most dangerous people on the planet.

There's a parable about how humanity, at one point in prehistory, manages to overcome all these ego-related issues like vanity, territoriality, paranoia, the collective madness that drives us to war, etc... but then it gets destroyed when a hasnamuss invents politics.

I can get where the desire comes from - I too once thought that the world would be better off if we were all just rational computer-people. But emotions are an important component of processing how things really are - by blinding yourself to them, you're operating at diminished capacity.

Like, this vaguely reminds me of one of the Dok's recently bumped threads about epistemology but a different angle.

Theres this thing that is the plague of the XX and XXIst century, its what is called "instrumental rationality"... its what was briefly discussed in a scene of Jurassic Park.

"You guys were too busy asking yourselves HOW to ask yourselves WHY? or should we even at all"

When instrumental rationality is set in motion, reason is reduced to a "technos" (or whatever the term is), a mere tool to the hand that guides it... sure we can digitalize and make automated machines to take your fast-food order, and thats very futuristic and cool, nevermind all the employees we fired in the process! PROGRESS!... thus, science is a rational and objective endevour, guided by the drives or emotions of greed and exploitaition.

Besides, science always has this arrogance of being "objective" as if the subject does not exist, allegedly hygienizing subjectivity from the process... but what is deemed worthy of being researched, the objectives of the research, what questions are asked and how the research is conducted, it all can be traced to a subjective will and drive.

The Ego in itself is the psychical entity that embodies rational instrumentality, which is merely a tool of the unconscious Id or the Superego... a rational executioner of irrational drives.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PMAnd that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.

Oh, I'm well aware that rejection of emotion can lead counterproductively to pride, and that trying to cancel out passions and attachment with contempt is a hamfisted solution and will never balance correctly, but I don't have a better solution.

Also, I'm not really talking about elimination emotion and concern about emotion entirely, just eliminating it from attempts to determine what is true, or what is viable. Emotion can't tell you about anything other than itself. You can't determine anything about the real world through a priori reasoning

But emotions can be an important part of the determination of truth, the thing is, they cant be taken at face-value and need to be interpreted.

Pure reason can so so so easily degenerate into rationalizations, and the emotions we feel and the emotions we see in others can keep that in check.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on March 20, 2019, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PMAnd that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.

Oh, I'm well aware that rejection of emotion can lead counterproductively to pride, and that trying to cancel out passions and attachment with contempt is a hamfisted solution and will never balance correctly, but I don't have a better solution.

Also, I'm not really talking about elimination emotion and concern about emotion entirely, just eliminating it from attempts to determine what is true, or what is viable. Emotion can't tell you about anything other than itself. You can't determine anything about the real world through a priori reasoning

But emotions can be an important part of the determination of truth, the thing is, they cant be taken at face-value and need to be interpreted.

Pure reason can so so so easily degenerate into rationalizations, and the emotions we feel and the emotions we see in others can keep that in check.

It almost sounds like all these aspects of ourselves are... actually important? How bizarre.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2019, 09:26:55 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 20, 2019, 04:27:19 PMAnd that people who insist they are hyper-rational and try to reject emotions are usually just not aware of the emotions involved in their decision making.

Oh, I'm well aware that rejection of emotion can lead counterproductively to pride, and that trying to cancel out passions and attachment with contempt is a hamfisted solution and will never balance correctly, but I don't have a better solution.

Also, I'm not really talking about elimination emotion and concern about emotion entirely, just eliminating it from attempts to determine what is true, or what is viable. Emotion can't tell you about anything other than itself. You can't determine anything about the real world through a priori reasoning

You

are

not

communicating.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMits what was briefly discussed in a scene of Jurassic Park.

"You guys were too busy asking yourselves HOW to ask yourselves WHY? or should we even at all"

Good god that movie was moronic. Even if we ignore the science making no sense, there's still the more pressing fact that despite Dr.Malcolm's moralizing nothing bad happened there that couldn't happen at a regular zoo with lions and tigers and bears and stuff. It was just an ordinary case of some of the animals getting out and mauling the visitors. It's happened in the San Francisco zoo at least twice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Zoo#2007_tiger_attacks)

Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMsure we can digitalize and make automated machines to take your fast-food order, and thats very futuristic and cool, nevermind all the employees we fired in the process! PROGRESS!

The these people's suffering isn't technology's fault, it's the fault of an increasingly obsolete economic system that still expects people to work despite the fact that there's less and less work that needs doing
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMits what was briefly discussed in a scene of Jurassic Park.

"You guys were too busy asking yourselves HOW to ask yourselves WHY? or should we even at all"

Good god that movie was moronic. Even if we ignore the science making no sense, there's still the more pressing fact that despite Dr.Malcolm's moralizing nothing bad happened there that couldn't happen at a regular zoo with lions and tigers and bears and stuff. It was just an ordinary case of some of the animals getting out and mauling the visitors. It's happened in the San Francisco zoo at least twice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Zoo#2007_tiger_attacks)

Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMsure we can digitalize and make automated machines to take your fast-food order, and thats very futuristic and cool, nevermind all the employees we fired in the process! PROGRESS!

The these people's suffering isn't technology's fault, it's the fault of an increasingly obsolete economic system that still expects people to work despite the fact that there's less and less work that needs doing

We're not discussing the merits of Jurassic Park as a film or its veracity, as if i even praised it and wasnt just using it as an easily accessed example of what instrumental rationality is  :lulz: But i guess its a perfect opportunity for you to express your superior aesthetic taste and scientific knowledge that is irrelevant to the conversation? Cant you notice how your narcissistic needs are warping your arguments?

And thats exactly my point, science and rationality are just tools that can be used for "good" or "bad", even considering that these are relative and subjective moral terms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 21, 2019, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 18, 2019, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 18, 2019, 09:28:31 PM
Hey now Roger, it's not like current day wealth disparities can be directly traced to slavery (http://theconversation.com/why-wealth-equality-remains-out-of-reach-for-black-americans-111483) or anything.  Black people just need to whine less.

But how is anyone that is still alive in any way accountable for that?

Through perpetuating a system where that continues to impact on black people to this day?

None of them are perpetuating slavery though. You're moving the goalposts. I'm not saying that they can't complain about things that are actually still things like unequal sentencing, and police brutality, and employment discrimination. There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do. There's things they can do against other forms of discrimination, but there's nothing they can do about slavery specifically that hasn't already been done.

40 acres and a mule, as promised.  Plus interest for the years late that it is.  As far as the descendants of slave owners being blameless, if I rob someone, then give the stolen stuff away and shoot myself, does that mean it should not be given back?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on March 21, 2019, 12:10:31 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.

Convict leasing actually IS technically slavery.  Slavery was only eliminated for those not convicted of a crime.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 01:22:43 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMits what was briefly discussed in a scene of Jurassic Park.

"You guys were too busy asking yourselves HOW to ask yourselves WHY? or should we even at all"

Good god that movie was moronic. Even if we ignore the science making no sense, there's still the more pressing fact that despite Dr.Malcolm's moralizing nothing bad happened there that couldn't happen at a regular zoo with lions and tigers and bears and stuff. It was just an ordinary case of some of the animals getting out and mauling the visitors. It's happened in the San Francisco zoo at least twice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Zoo#2007_tiger_attacks)

Quote from: The Johnny on March 20, 2019, 08:36:05 PMsure we can digitalize and make automated machines to take your fast-food order, and thats very futuristic and cool, nevermind all the employees we fired in the process! PROGRESS!

The these people's suffering isn't technology's fault, it's the fault of an increasingly obsolete economic system that still expects people to work despite the fact that there's less and less work that needs doing

I AM GOING TO SHIT MY PANTS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 21, 2019, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on March 21, 2019, 12:10:31 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.

Convict leasing actually IS technically slavery.  Slavery was only eliminated for those not convicted of a crime.

Yup. I even provided sources for how it didn't really end even after convict leasing was outlawed! See below.

Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 20, 2019, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 20, 2019, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 19, 2019, 09:41:28 PM
There's definitely still various forms of race discrimination and mistreatment out there but chattel slavery is not one of them and it hasn't been one of them for 150 years. They passed a constitutional amendment banning it, that's the strongest thing that the government can do.
I don't think that "150 years" is quite right.  Convict leasing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_lease) continued into the 1920s.  It wasn't technically slavery, but there was little practical difference.

The Jim Crow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws) segregation laws were enforced until 1965.  That would be an example of the government actively maintaining black people's status as second class citizens.

Fuck convict leasing, prison slavery is a thing to this day. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/866583376265977856?lang=en

https://www.thenation.com/article/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor/

But slavery is over you guys!!! Not the same at all!!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries

Equality! So it isn't racist!

http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/FT_18.01.10_PrisonRaceGaps_2.png


FUCK


PDS can eat my entire ass and choke on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 21, 2019, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 20, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
Good god that movie was moronic. Even if we ignore the science making no sense, there's still the more pressing fact that despite Dr.Malcolm's moralizing nothing bad happened there that couldn't happen at a regular zoo with lions and tigers and bears and stuff. It was just an ordinary case of some of the animals getting out and mauling the visitors. It's happened in the San Francisco zoo at least twice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Zoo#2007_tiger_attacks)

And thats why people with sufficient emotion don't put animals in the cages just to look at them. You could also say that it isn't rational, for the risk to humans included, but include the profit motif and suddenly risking human lives becomes perfectly logical.

We need emotion. Lot's of it, and not only in the sanitised prescribed form we feel by staring at screens. How often knowing what's wrong got you up and protesting? At the same time you know that you are just a tiny part of everything and probably what you do won't count anyways. How fucking motivating? At the same time if you feel that there's something wrong, the feeling won't just give up and let you go before you actually DO something about it.

When mind dominates, you end up as a loner. When emotions dominate, you'll likely die for a cause. Get balance and stop being so fucking miserable, because that shit transmits by the internet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 12:33:30 PM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 21, 2019, 12:31:54 PM
When mind dominates, you end up as a loner. When emotions dominate, you'll likely die for a cause. Get balance and stop being so fucking miserable, because that shit transmits by the internet.

I am starting to like you.  Imagine how that makes me feel.  :crankey:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 21, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 12:33:30 PM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 21, 2019, 12:31:54 PM
When mind dominates, you end up as a loner. When emotions dominate, you'll likely die for a cause. Get balance and stop being so fucking miserable, because that shit transmits by the internet.

I am starting to like you.  Imagine how that makes me feel.  :crankey:

I really can't. Here, have a reversed heart emoji 3<
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 21, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
considering

3<

Resembles a fart, this is right on the money.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 21, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
considering

3<

Resembles a fart, this is right on the money.

If any of you really loved me, you'd arrange my dismemberment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 21, 2019, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 21, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
considering

3<

Resembles a fart, this is right on the money.

If any of you really loved me, you'd arrange my dismemberment.

But you'd just be back near the end of January, none the worse for wear, right?

We'd need to deport you from Tucson first, but as we all know, Tucson is the sink node in the acyclic directed graph of the universe. All things eventually end in Tucson, and then they stay there. You'd need to dig a deeper hole first.

...

Hey, do you think that fatberg could punch a hole in the bottom of Tucson? Have you been feeding it regularly?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 21, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 21, 2019, 12:54:28 PM

But you'd just be back near the end of January, none the worse for wear, right?


It's the thought that counts.   :argh!:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 22, 2019, 09:04:29 PM
Mueller submitted his report
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 23, 2019, 10:21:05 AM
It's like the night before Christmas, and I know I asked for a pony, but deep down I know I'm just getting one of those stuffed horsie heads on a stick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Telarus on March 24, 2019, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 23, 2019, 10:21:05 AM
It's like the night before Christmas, and I know I asked for a pony, but deep down I know I'm just getting one of those stuffed horsie heads on a stick.

:horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2019, 05:43:11 PM
I'm waiting a couple of weeks before passing any judgement on the investigation.

The current talk is that Mueller presented it as a "this is why a crime was probably committed" and "this is why it probably wasn't" series of points, which then left the determination to charge with the AG.

But there's a lot of rumours flying around right now.  So sit tight and wait until something concrete comes out.  Like with terrorist attacks, there's no point running your mouth until the facts are in.  So far we just have one piece.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 25, 2019, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 25, 2019, 05:43:11 PM
I'm waiting a couple of weeks before passing any judgement on the investigation.

The current talk is that Mueller presented it as a "this is why a crime was probably committed" and "this is why it probably wasn't" series of points, which then left the determination to charge with the AG.

But there's a lot of rumours flying around right now.  So sit tight and wait until something concrete comes out.  Like with terrorist attacks, there's no point running your mouth until the facts are in.  So far we just have one piece.

Hear hear.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 25, 2019, 06:12:12 PM
I WANT to come to an early conclusion so my brain can just fucking move on, but, well, yeah.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2019, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: nullified on March 25, 2019, 06:12:12 PM
I WANT to come to an early conclusion so my brain can just fucking move on, but, well, yeah.

Nope, it's like Brexit.  We have to suffer that bullshit, you have to suffer this
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 25, 2019, 06:20:42 PM
Can I trade in for a less irritating punishment that lasts longer?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 26, 2019, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 25, 2019, 06:20:42 PM
Can I trade in for a less irritating punishment that lasts longer?
Again... Brexit. Sing Valar Morghulis in praise of  the faceless gods that one day Trump will die, Brexit could go on decades.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on March 26, 2019, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2019, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: nullified on March 25, 2019, 06:20:42 PM
Can I trade in for a less irritating punishment that lasts longer?
Again... Brexit. Sing Valar Morghulis in praise of  the faceless gods that one day Trump will die, Brexit could go on decades.
Only things I see capable of disrupting brexit are war in europe, revolution, or first contact, and none of them are scheduled before 50s.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 26, 2019, 12:31:41 PM
The worst part about Brexit isn't that it will go on forever, but that it will keep on dangling laughable little bits of false hope in front of everyone that maybe it will finally fucking stop.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 26, 2019, 01:35:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2019, 10:57:30 AM
Brexit could go on decades.
"We have always been withdrawing from Eurasia"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on March 26, 2019, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 26, 2019, 01:35:52 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 26, 2019, 10:57:30 AM
Brexit could go on decades.
"We have always been withdrawing from Eurasia"?

:potd:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 26, 2019, 06:26:50 PM
Faust's not wrong though.

Even if a deal is passed, it will be at least a decade of negotiation with the EU on the finer aspects of the trade deal, which we haven't even started on yet (remember, this is just the political/legal separation).

Alongside that, there will be a vicious and neverending argument about the EU in the UK - remainers arguing we should have never left, no dealers whining that they were stabbed in the back...the Tory party may fall apart, Labour will certainly face a backlash for Corbyn's passivity and Scottish nationalists will try to leave the Union again.  Republican and Loyalist terrorism may return, turning Brexit into a security issue as well as a diplomatic and trade one.

Brexit is going to drag on for probably a generation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
I, missed a lot... what, exactly is the reason behind "brexit"?.. I feel like an utter fool for having to ask.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 01, 2019, 07:17:27 PM
Broadly speaking, "We joined a union of countries to become a stronger group economic power, and now those dirty non-Brits are trying to tell us what to do!"


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 07:49:26 PM
What is it they're saying to do that's so objectionable?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2019, 08:13:58 PM
Anything.

The EU has been a useful whipping boy for the UK right for decades.  The biggest complaint is that free movement within the EU means the UK does not control its borders, meaning dirty foreigners from such hell holes as *checks notes* Poland may come here and positively contribute to the economy.

This has been conflated with immigration entirely, and then conflated with Muslims, which has been conflated with rape gangs and terrorism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 01, 2019, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 07:49:26 PM
What is it they're saying to do that's so objectionable?


It's the PRINCIPLE that's important here!
           /
:lord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 01, 2019, 08:29:24 PM
In summary the common agricultural policy has been raping young British girls.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on April 01, 2019, 08:33:41 PM
Its actually really simple. The European Union wants us to be part of a Federal United States of Europe, but the right wing of the country would rather be the 51st state of something else. Without the black people, obviously, because well we're English aren't we. And there Aint no black in the Union Jack and all that sort of thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 09:14:27 PM
Oh, so it's the same stupid shit we have in America. Well, at least we won't be stupid alone this time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 09:16:11 PM
I swear all this goddamn infighting is part of an old KGB plan and eventually, the communists will seem like the rational ones. Oh well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on April 01, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 09:16:11 PM
I swear all this goddamn infighting is part of an old KGB plan and eventually, the communists will seem like the rational ones. Oh well.

Bingo!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 01, 2019, 10:56:30 PM
Quote from: MMIX on April 01, 2019, 08:33:41 PM
Its actually really simple. The European Union wants us to be part of a Federal United States of Europe, but the right wing of the country would rather be the 51st state of something else. Without the black people, obviously, because well we're English aren't we. And there Aint no black in the Union Jack and all that sort of thing.

So the UK is Texas?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 02, 2019, 12:19:10 AM
I'm a sixth gen Texan... I don't think anyone with a brain wants black people to "go away", what the fuck, only some stupid, hooded screeching idiot thinks that... ok maybe most of the south is like that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on April 02, 2019, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 02, 2019, 12:19:10 AM
I'm a sixth gen Texan... I don't think anyone with a brain wants black people to "go away", what the fuck, only some stupid, hooded screeching idiot thinks that... ok maybe most of the south is like that.

And in the UK too, though you'd have to include the Midlands and North of England too. Like I just discovered that my next door neighbour voted Brexit a] to cause chaos (and not the good sort) and b] because "there are too many darkies in Wolverhampton".
Another neighbour reckons he just wants to live in a "white christian country". I did point out that he shouldn't have voted for Brexit then because so many catholic churches are being kept going by the influx of nice white christians from Poland etc, but he wasn't having any of that. Then last week he said he thinks that we should nuke Pakistan . . . "Too many Muslims?" I asked, and he just smiled sheepishly. I'm starting to get used to living in a mad-house, but I'm not sure that I am really enjoying it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 02, 2019, 04:47:52 PM
That's worse than my time in Missouri. And I wasn't in no fuckin' St. Louis.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 02, 2019, 04:50:16 PM
I've been watching these little panels where they get a bunch of people who disagree about everything, but share one demographic feature. For example, black conservatives vs black liberals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVIoC5ROaHk). Or women with a variety of opinions about feminism.

The black conservatives vs black liberals one was interesting because there were some well spoken conservatives. It was actually kind of refreshing, in a way, to listen to thoughts from Trump supporters who aren't racist idiots? (not that black people can't be racist -- just that racism was clearly not their reason for voting for Trump)

It started me thinking about how in the post-trump years, we're going to need to recover from polarization, and a key piece of that is building coalitions between liberals and conservatives ... which also made me examine my media diet a little more.


I had a moment of going "maybe we can actually come back to sanity one day"


But then I saw this shit and my blood pressure went through the roof again


https://www.newsweek.com/us-border-patrol-accused-forcing-migrant-families-sleeping-outside-wake-stand-1382858

QuoteThe complaint details a series of alleged abuses reported to ACLU lawyers by former detainees at the site, now shut down, including migrant families being forced to sleep on rocky terrain for up to four nights in temperatures that dropped into the 30s, with only Mylar sheets to protect them. It also alleges that asylum seekers were forced to wake up every three hours and stand in what Texas Monthly magazine called a "sleep deprivation tactic."

QuoteAccording to the complaint, asylum seekers also claimed there was a "lack of adequate medical care, food and water," in addition to verbal abuse from Border Patrol agents and harassment by one individual Border Patrol agent, who asylum seekers said sprayed them with water from water bottles.

Speaking to Texas Monthly, one asylum seeker, identified only by his first name, Carlos, said he believed that what Border Patrol agents "were trying to do was hurt us psychologically, so we would understand that this is a lesson we were being taught, that we shouldn't have crossed."

Speaking at an El Paso shelter where he and his family were staying temporarily, he added: "We felt that what they were teaching us is, as Latino immigrants, that we should let our families know that there was this big risk [in coming to the United States]. But regardless, it was worth it, because even though we had to go through this big risk with our children, we're in better conditions now."

great, so the people we put in concentration camps are being starved and deprived of sleep too



what the fuck is happening to this country?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 02, 2019, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 01, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
I, missed a lot... what, exactly is the reason behind "brexit"?.. I feel like an utter fool for having to ask.

IIRC They'd rather sink into obscurity and irrelevance by themselves than be relevant as part of a group.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2019, 07:39:39 PM
There's no way they stumbled on 3 hours by accident, either.

3 hours = 180 minutes.  Your body goes into its 3rd, deep sleep cycle after this. The brain produces delta waves and ultimately goes into REM sleep if some asshole with a gun doesn't wake them beforehand.

It's literally torture, and there's no way someone didn't tell them exactly how long they could be left to sleep before interrupting them for.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 12:51:55 AM
I... stand hideously corrected...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 12:54:31 AM
I've experienced torture regarding being able to sleep.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 01:00:13 AM
It's common in homeless shelters across the USA. Feel free to look it up. It usually gets called something like "bed checks". And yeah, the intervals are consistently 3 hour ones, at least in Western PA and Northern California.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 03, 2019, 02:29:19 AM
Quote from: MMIX on April 02, 2019, 04:10:48 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 02, 2019, 12:19:10 AM
I'm a sixth gen Texan... I don't think anyone with a brain wants black people to "go away", what the fuck, only some stupid, hooded screeching idiot thinks that... ok maybe most of the south is like that.

And in the UK too, though you'd have to include the Midlands and North of England too. Like I just discovered that my next door neighbour voted Brexit a] to cause chaos (and not the good sort) and b] because "there are too many darkies in Wolverhampton".
Another neighbour reckons he just wants to live in a "white christian country". I did point out that he shouldn't have voted for Brexit then because so many catholic churches are being kept going by the influx of nice white christians from Poland etc, but he wasn't having any of that. Then last week he said he thinks that we should nuke Pakistan . . . "Too many Muslims?" I asked, and he just smiled sheepishly. I'm starting to get used to living in a mad-house, but I'm not sure that I am really enjoying it

Welcome to America.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 06:36:35 AM
What ever happened to us having a monopoly on chaos?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:06:04 AM
I swear to god this makes me want to kill myself, seriously? Can we pretend they said something about a magickal pony realm?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:12:29 AM
I, spent, most of the evening talking to my payee, she is an adorable black woman, topics we end up discussing might be strange, I guess except for my rant about "There is no fucking WAY Jesus was white..."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
FYI, Jesus wasn't white.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 03, 2019, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
FYI, Jesus wasn't white.

Given that he was an allegory for an astrological observation, yeah, he wasn't white. He was yellow. Really fucking bright - don't stare at the fucker or you'll melt your retina - yellow. :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 04:11:10 PM
I always forget that the p3nt who knows a ton of shit is the same as the p3nt who makes awesome fuckin 3d art and they're both the same as the crude, loveable asshole p3nt (responsible iirc for the long lost swear forum)

Then posts like this blend two of these disparate entities by being a rotten bastard about mithra (you know how many people off this forum I know who know that shit? Like, one) or something and I take a minute to get my train of thought back on the rails. Inevitably I will forget they are the same people and be surprised again

P3nt this is me, drunk/high off of toxins created by food borne bacteria and mild fever, saying I want you to post more, thanks
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 03, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
FYI, Jesus wasn't white.

Of course not, he was Jewish. He would've looked like Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen or Mel Brooks

EDIT:
or Adam Sandler
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 06:52:26 PM
I will vote for any Jesus that isn't Adam Sandler.

EDIT: Sorry, I just do not like Adam Sandler's sense of humor. I like Jerry Seinfeld's sense of humor because he's one of the rare comics who never seem to punch down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 03, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 03, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 09:14:21 AM
FYI, Jesus wasn't white.

Of course not, he was Jewish. He would've looked like Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen or Mel Brooks

EDIT:
or Adam Sandler

2000 years ago, would have looked Arabic, you twat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
In the book of revelations, Jesus has hair that's described like wool. This isn't lovey-dovey Jesus either, this is angry, end of the world, why'd you leave the freaking stove on Jesus.

EDIT: Sorry, my payee called yesterday and I managed to talk her into sending MORE money, despite being drunk out of my gourd and ranting about stupid nazis. This topic came up, when I was explaining everything wrong with white people who argue for racial purity. Seriously, there's still idiots that think racial purity, of white people, is a thing.

EDIT: It's also possible that Roger is actually Jesus. No, we don't want to go there, because that would be indisputable proof that god hates us and wants us to catch fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 03, 2019, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 03, 2019, 06:58:35 PM

EDIT: It's also possible that Roger is actually Jesus. No, we don't want to go there, because that would be indisputable proof that god hates us and wants us to catch fire.

If Roger was Jesus, he wouldn't still be dead, would he?  No.  He would have erupted from the ground and punched you dead in the nuts.

But he isn't Jesus, and he's decomposing nicely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 09:47:53 PM
Roger is only Jesus in that we flog his corpse around as justification for our heathen actions
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 03, 2019, 09:57:38 PM
Quote from: nullified on April 03, 2019, 09:47:53 PM
Roger is only Jesus in that we flog his corpse around as justification for our heathen actions

Yep.  Payne is our actual Pop Up Jesus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 03, 2019, 09:58:34 PM
That explains why he's been missing for what seems like two millennia
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2019, 01:24:55 AM
Annnnnnnd Barr is going to have John Mitchell's old cell.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2019, 01:25:59 AM
AND congress just subpoenaed the IRS for Trump's tax returns.

Trump:  "I'm still being audited."

Nadler:  "Bitch I didn't ask you."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 04, 2019, 01:26:23 AM
All the political dudes are beginning to blend together, remind me who these fucksticks are?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2019, 01:34:08 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 04, 2019, 01:26:23 AM
All the political dudes are beginning to blend together, remind me who these fucksticks are?

Nadler (D-Pandemonium) is the judiciary committee chief.  If he is after you, cancel Christmas.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 04, 2019, 01:44:21 AM
Sorry, I had meant Barr and Mitchell. I just googled them up myself like some sort of cretin but cannot find any clear details on why you say Barr's headed in the steps of Mitchell. Got a link?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2019, 02:24:28 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 04, 2019, 01:44:21 AM
Sorry, I had meant Barr and Mitchell. I just googled them up myself like some sort of cretin but cannot find any clear details on why you say Barr's headed in the steps of Mitchell. Got a link?

Because it looks like the report that Mueller handed him didn't bear much resemblance to what Barr told congress the report said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 04, 2019, 02:34:21 AM
Wait, are people actually going to get what they deserve for once?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on April 04, 2019, 01:06:26 PM
Not likely
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2019, 01:25:59 AM
AND congress just subpoenaed the IRS for Trump's tax returns.

Trump:  "I'm still being audited."

Nadler:  "Bitch I didn't ask you."

Incidentally, he's been saying he's being audited for what, three years now? How the hell long does an IRS audit take, anyway?



Yes, I know he's lying.  I'm just curious about how implausible it's getting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2019, 05:54:52 PM
Well, that's where this question gets fun:

QuoteIn a majority of cases, the IRS would wrap up their tax audit within one year. Even though the agency has up to three years to audit a tax return, the IRS prefers to conclude audits before the expiration of the statute of limitations.

In fact, according to the IRS training guide, IRS agents have to "strictly adhere to" the relevant guideline to close tax audits within a period of 26 months after the date of filing or due date of the return, whichever is later.

QuoteIn fewer cases where tax fraud or misreporting is involved, the agency does not have to comply with the statute of limitations. So, if there is a huge amount of unreported income, then the statute of limitations is 6 years. However, the IRS seldom goes into a tax audit assuming this extended statute of six years.

The agency assumes that 3 years is the limit, and auditors would usually work to conclude their audit within this timeline.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2019, 06:54:11 PM
Huh.  So he's either lying, or they've caught some really big stuff.  Thanks for the info, Cain!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2019, 08:36:57 PM
The best part will be when someone pays attention and asks him about it.

Someone needs to date when he first said he was being audited and then nail him with this, to see how he reacts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Ok, I think he may have some wiggle room here.

According to CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-tax-audit-letter/index.html), he's said on Feb 25, 2016 that he's been audited every year since 2002.

Sounds like bullshit, but if you apply the "3 year rule" Cain posted above, the latest we'd be able to see right now is about 2015, I think?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 04, 2019, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Ok, I think he may have some wiggle room here.

According to CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-tax-audit-letter/index.html), he's said on Feb 25, 2016 that he's been audited every year since 2002.

Sounds like bullshit, but if you apply the "3 year rule" Cain posted above, the latest we'd be able to see right now is about 2015, I think?

Would like to note that 2009 is probably interesting, since on the date in 2016 you mentioned, he said it was /still/ being audited. :lulz: So you want to ask him the latest tax returns he can release first so you can corner him properly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 04, 2019, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Ok, I think he may have some wiggle room here.

According to CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-tax-audit-letter/index.html), he's said on Feb 25, 2016 that he's been audited every year since 2002.

Sounds like bullshit
The suspicious part is him not being nailed for something big enough to nail him yet. I could totally buy that he;s committed tax fraud every year since 2002
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 05, 2019, 12:08:58 AM
I think this is all normal for a magnificent, if thoroughly evil and intolerable bastard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 12:14:07 AM
Someone else field this shit, seeing "magnificent" in the same legal territory as Trump makes me shit blood and vomit small birds with a taste for tears of agony.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2019, 12:20:34 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 05, 2019, 12:14:07 AM
Someone else field this shit, seeing "magnificent" in the same legal territory as Trump makes me shit blood and vomit small birds with a taste for tears of agony.

Yeah, this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 05, 2019, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 05, 2019, 12:08:58 AM
I think this is all normal for a magnificent, if thoroughly evil and intolerable bastard.

A thunderstorm is magnificent.  An avalanche is magnificent.  A hurricane is magnificent.

But Trump is not a force of nature.  He is pollution.  He is a leaky tailings pond and cesspool combined, with an misshapen mass of mercury soaked ordure floating in the center.  Disastrous, dangerous, horrifying, disgusting.  But not magnificent.

Not unless you set it on fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 01:20:25 AM
Thanks.

Though the problem with calling it magnificent after it's been set aflame is that it stinks everything the fuck up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 05, 2019, 01:46:25 AM
Would be nice to set it aflame. I agree, it is thoroughly demonic, an abomination to organic life. Shit, just, look at those tiny hands... Don't see this happening, although it would be nice to see the FBI bust the actual criminals for once, especially with fire, that shit would be awsome.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 05, 2019, 02:11:50 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 05, 2019, 01:20:25 AM
Thanks.

Though the problem with calling it magnificent after it's been set aflame is that it stinks everything the fuck up.

You were never going to get out of this without some collateral damage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 02:20:35 AM
Oh sure, I just feel like the stink overshadows the spectacle.

Maybe we can bury them all before they get set aflame, for that real coal mine fire experience. It wouldn't be magnificent, but it'd make a great American counterpart to those Thai hell-parks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 05, 2019, 09:13:39 AM
I just want trump and pence removed from office and carted off to jail and Pelosi made president so the psycho trumpfans freak out and try to start Civil War 2.0 so we can finally draw them out and take care of them once and for all and bulldoze their corpses into mass graves and not give them any participation trophy statues, and build Starbuckses on top of their mass graves so we can taunt their restless spirits with inappropriately themed holiday cups.

Is that really too much to ask for?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2019, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 05, 2019, 09:13:39 AM
I just want trump and pence removed from office and carted off to jail and Pelosi made president so the psycho trumpfans freak out and try to start Civil War 2.0 so we can finally draw them out and take care of them once and for all and bulldoze their corpses into mass graves and not give them any participation trophy statues, and build Starbuckses on top of their mass graves so we can taunt their restless spirits with inappropriately themed holiday cups.

Is that really too much to ask for?

No.  No, this is perfectly reasonable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
Needs more taco trucks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 05, 2019, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 05, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
Needs more taco trucks.

Surely we have the technology to make biodiesel from people.

Actually putting them in the tacos may be going too far, depending on who we're feeding them to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 08:23:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2019, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 05, 2019, 09:13:39 AM
I just want trump and pence removed from office and carted off to jail and Pelosi made president so the psycho trumpfans freak out and try to start Civil War 2.0 so we can finally draw them out and take care of them once and for all and bulldoze their corpses into mass graves and not give them any participation trophy statues, and build Starbuckses on top of their mass graves so we can taunt their restless spirits with inappropriately themed holiday cups.

Is that really too much to ask for?

No.  No, this is perfectly reasonable.

I disagree. Who the fuck wants another Starbucks? Even one haunted by the ghosts of redneck Nazis?

Build something actually useful there, like an actual restaurant or one of those crazy fucking "who put this here? Why?" things you find in the Midwest. Taunting ghosts isn't fun because they don't DO anything, so people will stop doing it eventually. A restaurant or tourist trap will perpetually draw multicultural crowds of happy people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 05, 2019, 08:38:43 PM
Build a gay bar.  Host 21+ Pride events.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 05, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 05, 2019, 08:38:43 PM
Build a gay bar.  Host 21+ Pride events.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 06, 2019, 09:29:19 AM
There will be plenty of these mass graves, I'm sure.

Mix it up! Have fun with it!


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Needs more taco trucks, indeed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on April 08, 2019, 04:19:44 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/iran-us-irgc-designation/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/iran-us-irgc-designation/index.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 08, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
Even the "nuke Iran" crowd at the WSJ think this is dumb
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 08, 2019, 06:37:06 PM
And the dumbest most hypocritical thing of all is that for all the talk of foreign nations sponsoring terrorism he hasn't done shit about Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia's regime isn't evil enough to warrant denouncements and sanctions then surely none of these lesser evils are
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Con-troll on April 08, 2019, 08:12:12 PM
He should really try and put USA on a leash, they cause more violence than saudis ever did.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 11, 2019, 11:16:45 AM
Shame someone can't just shit on the desk.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 13, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
https://apple.news/A_zkotvP5Tvav0Y5V2Iia-w

I have to ask at what stage this shit becomes actually like... actionable. I know we have some people who know the score around here. When does this level of blatant law-breaking become something that legally can be turned into some sort of punishment? Or is the President entirely above the law outside of Congress slapping their hands?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 13, 2019, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 13, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
https://apple.news/A_zkotvP5Tvav0Y5V2Iia-w

I have to ask at what stage this shit becomes actually like... actionable. I know we have some people who know the score around here. When does this level of blatant law-breaking become something that legally can be turned into some sort of punishment? Or is the President entirely above the law outside of Congress slapping their hands?

All these double-speak declarations that are later passed on as "jokes" arent even funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2019, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: nullified on April 13, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
https://apple.news/A_zkotvP5Tvav0Y5V2Iia-w

I have to ask at what stage this shit becomes actually like... actionable. I know we have some people who know the score around here. When does this level of blatant law-breaking become something that legally can be turned into some sort of punishment? Or is the President entirely above the law outside of Congress slapping their hands?

It's only actionable when a Democrat is President.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 13, 2019, 09:01:15 PM
The part of town I live in is FILLED with illegal immigrants. I know I'm dense, and stupid, but what I SEE in how they help complete strangers and don't burn the whole fucking place to the ground, makes me wonder, because a lot of these folks are a lot more decent than what we accept as an "american"... I start to feel ashamed of being an American because obviously good, hardworking people cannot be citizens of our country. They must've failed the "bastard" test.

EDIT: We have a thriving market here, just down the street. And no, it's not Wal-mart. We have businesses in the area, and a lot of them, that cater to people who don't speak a word of english. This is fine, although, nobody speaks english, so it's difficult to communicate what services you need. The residents of this community have been much more kind to me than other places I've lived. I can't understand, so I watch them, and when I do, I see the kind of morals we lost somewhere, fifty years ago, just in terms of kindness for random strangers. Then I read these alarmist news articles about homicidally inclined illegals, and my brain goes, yeah, that does happen, but our citizens commit a lot more murders than these folks, and don't even get me started on "Florida Man".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 15, 2019, 08:39:19 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 13, 2019, 09:01:15 PM
The part of town I live in is FILLED with illegal immigrants. I know I'm dense, and stupid, but what I SEE in how they help complete strangers and don't burn the whole fucking place to the ground, makes me wonder, because a lot of these folks are a lot more decent than what we accept as an "american"... I start to feel ashamed of being an American because obviously good, hardworking people cannot be citizens of our country. They must've failed the "bastard" test.

EDIT: We have a thriving market here, just down the street. And no, it's not Wal-mart. We have businesses in the area, and a lot of them, that cater to people who don't speak a word of english. This is fine, although, nobody speaks english, so it's difficult to communicate what services you need. The residents of this community have been much more kind to me than other places I've lived. I can't understand, so I watch them, and when I do, I see the kind of morals we lost somewhere, fifty years ago, just in terms of kindness for random strangers. Then I read these alarmist news articles about homicidally inclined illegals, and my brain goes, yeah, that does happen, but our citizens commit a lot more murders than these folks, and don't even get me started on "Florida Man".

It's a trite one-liner and I've used it to death to shut down casual racist pricks who make the mistake of thinking I'd be down with their inferior, petty, half-arsed hatred of humanity but it's also gospel truth - 100% of people who have personally fucked me over, given me shit or plain attacked me in the street have been Caucasian just like me. If I was gonna get on board with racism then I'd be going after whitey.

But why limit yourself?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 16, 2019, 10:31:30 AM
Eh, it's only a good gauge to limit racism. All people are, people, and worthy of love and respect... even white people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on April 18, 2019, 05:56:25 PM
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-I-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf (https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-I-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf)
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-II-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf (https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-II-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 07:13:34 PM
Quick skim: looks like the redactions aren't too over the top. Just enough context given to understand why most of them are necessary (a couple of the larger blocks get side-eye worthy, but even those usually have enough build up that you can get the general gist of why it might need to be redacted). Not so much the personal privacy ones, but there's few enough of those in small enough doses that I feel they're not /blatant/ hiding of bullshit.

Again, just a quick skim, but that's my initial impression. I'll give it a proper examination later on probably, unless someone beats me to it. Pretty decent first impression given I showed up with a nail gun and several prints of Renaissance paintings of the crucifixion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 07:54:36 PM
We have some few good greatest fucking hits today, and I speak without sarcasm.

Mike Pence rejected by evangelicals!
https://apple.news/AmUquzfmGT-uGC6rSQ5_RMg

Don Jr. is legally too stupid to be convicted of conspiracy!
https://apple.news/AEE6iOkMfRWC27bcPjlRvnQ

The PEE TAPE WAS REAL (probably, at least some incriminating tape was involved here), and, I fucking quote, a RUSSIAN BUSINESSMAN "stopped [the] flow". :lulz:
https://apple.news/AVpknLxMESuiao8m9RuxF3Q
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 18, 2019, 08:56:57 PM
The IRA redactions were pretty extensive IMO.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 09:07:02 PM
I don't remember them being extensive in a way that resembled ass covering. Given the logical flow of the document you could tell roughly what they were looking into. I'll give it another look in a bit, though, need to unbury the computer anyhow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 18, 2019, 10:13:28 PM
There was basically 5 complete pages blocked out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 18, 2019, 11:04:55 PM
You're right. I'd estimate much more, actually.

I might have missed that because by "skim" I meant "found first immediately interesting page number and scrolled down from there." Whoops.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on April 19, 2019, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 13, 2019, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: nullified on April 13, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
https://apple.news/A_zkotvP5Tvav0Y5V2Iia-w

I have to ask at what stage this shit becomes actually like... actionable. I know we have some people who know the score around here. When does this level of blatant law-breaking become something that legally can be turned into some sort of punishment? Or is the President entirely above the law outside of Congress slapping their hands?

All these double-speak declarations that are later passed on as "jokes" arent even funny.

I feel like folks that claim it was a joke need to explain the joke more often.  Being called on it and just called an asshole makes the defensive and then they double down, insisting people don't have a sense of humor.  Having to explain it might get them to realize it really isn't funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 19, 2019, 10:52:05 PM
Warren just called for the house to start impreachment proceedings.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 19, 2019, 11:04:11 PM
Good
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 20, 2019, 03:43:36 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4kEatWXsAEKx4z.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on April 20, 2019, 08:13:29 AM
According to Karl Rove, on Fox and Friends... Rove seems to think Bernie Sanders can beat Trump. While I personally think he's correct there, I have to wonder as to the underlying motivation. Is he giving his honest opinion? Or is he trying to sway the democratic party from nominating a potentially more-viable candidate? I'm unsure. (admittedly, I would love to see Bernie win, but to end this disaster of a presidency, the Democrats have to run the most electable candidate. I'm unfortunately not sure Bernie is the most electable candidate. Can he beat Trump? Sure, but potentially so could a shoe. No chances can be taken, so it leaves me with an unfortunate conundrum)

I just dislike how it always comes down to "the lesser of two evils", typically.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 20, 2019, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2019, 03:43:36 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4kEatWXsAEKx4z.jpg)

Is this a smoking gun? Please let this be a smoking gun
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 20, 2019, 12:32:49 PM
No, but it does illustrate that the President is a gigantic man-child.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 21, 2019, 02:08:50 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 20, 2019, 08:13:29 AM
According to Karl Rove, on Fox and Friends... Rove seems to think Bernie Sanders can beat Trump. While I personally think he's correct there, I have to wonder as to the underlying motivation. Is he giving his honest opinion? Or is he trying to sway the democratic party from nominating a potentially more-viable candidate? I'm unsure. (admittedly, I would love to see Bernie win, but to end this disaster of a presidency, the Democrats have to run the most electable candidate. I'm unfortunately not sure Bernie is the most electable candidate. Can he beat Trump? Sure, but potentially so could a shoe. No chances can be taken, so it leaves me with an unfortunate conundrum)

He's already way more electable than our last candidate due to the fact that the Republicans haven;t been running a continuous smear campaign against him for the past four years, unlike Hillary Clinton; If he wins he primary again he'll only have to face the usual amount of mudslinging. Also, the most likely way that Bernie would become the Democratic Party's candidate is by winning the Dempcratic primary; This will endear him to Democratic voters in stark contrast to the previous candidate who lost the primary but then was installed by the superdelegates in an ironic foreshadowing of their own later loss of the presidency on a technicality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 21, 2019, 03:43:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 21, 2019, 02:08:50 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 20, 2019, 08:13:29 AM
According to Karl Rove, on Fox and Friends... Rove seems to think Bernie Sanders can beat Trump. While I personally think he's correct there, I have to wonder as to the underlying motivation. Is he giving his honest opinion? Or is he trying to sway the democratic party from nominating a potentially more-viable candidate? I'm unsure. (admittedly, I would love to see Bernie win, but to end this disaster of a presidency, the Democrats have to run the most electable candidate. I'm unfortunately not sure Bernie is the most electable candidate. Can he beat Trump? Sure, but potentially so could a shoe. No chances can be taken, so it leaves me with an unfortunate conundrum)

He's already way more electable than our last candidate due to the fact that the Republicans haven;t been running a continuous smear campaign against him for the past four years, unlike Hillary Clinton; If he wins he primary again he'll only have to face the usual amount of mudslinging. Also, the most likely way that Bernie would become the Democratic Party's candidate is by winning the Dempcratic primary; This will endear him to Democratic voters in stark contrast to the previous candidate who lost the primary but then was installed by the superdelegates in an ironic foreshadowing of their own later loss of the presidency on a technicality.

:lulz:

Of COURSE you're a bro.  Shut the fuck up.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 21, 2019, 10:25:14 AM
 :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 21, 2019, 12:46:11 PM
Quotethe previous candidate who lost the primary

She lost with 3.7 million more votes?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 21, 2019, 03:56:29 PM
Damn.

I just checked and you're right.

I've been taken in
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 21, 2019, 04:06:04 PM
Well, credit for checking and admission of fault.

I would have to check this, but by pretty much every metric and way of determining the winner, Clinton would have won except by a superdelegate coup in favour of Sanders.  I'm not 100% on this, but if the Democrats used, say, the Republican method, or removed superdelegates altogether, or did it state by state with a weighting system based on population. I believe the outcome would be the same.

Don't get me wrong, Sanders did really surprisingly well in places. But his supporters combined the worst aspects of Ron Paulism and Obamaism in one extremely annoying and misleading package.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on May 01, 2019, 04:30:23 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2019, 06:47:50 PM
Watching Barr collapse in front if the senate.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on May 01, 2019, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: Trivial on May 01, 2019, 04:30:23 PM
:lulz:
That is amazing, he must have the attention span of a goldfish
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on May 01, 2019, 09:55:17 PM
I watched maybe 40% of the testimony. I feel kinda frustrated, mainly because I have zero faith that anything will come of it. Rule of law is dead, truth is dead, time to hop on your motorcycle and start taking people's sandwiches.

Also File Under: News Stories that Highlight the Structure of the System
I keep seeing headlines pop up about Sen. Mazie Hirono calling out Barr and demanding his resignation. It's another one of these places where "breaking news" is fuckin awful. Her Q&A was actually one of the least substantitive parts of the whole hearing -- she didn't ask any real questions, she just opined on what a shitheel he is. I guess there's some value in saying the emperor has no clothes, but it didn't actually do any damage. But it made for a lot of great soundbites, which feels like news to reporters.

All these ancient senators struggling to land a hit... reminded me of the Zuckerberg testimony. Mainly, a lot of grandstanding with little real force behind it. Occasionally, one of the younger senators manages to tease out an actual pressure point, but it's hard to see if any of it will penetrate armor.

I'll be real curious to follow the upcoming Mueller hearing. He has much more public credibility than Barr.


but mainly, it just feels bleak... I am pretty sure at this point that impeachment is a non-starter, all we're doing at this stage is hoping to demolish the reelection campaign.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 01, 2019, 11:31:09 PM
I think the idea here is to get the impeachment ball rolling, to make the Republicans own Trump.

The House would likely pass it. Then Senate Republicans are faced with a choice. They will vote it down, but in doing so, they tie themselves to Trump. And many of them are up for election next year. The attack ads write themelves. Flip the Senate and it doesn't matter who wins the 2020 election.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 02, 2019, 05:39:07 PM
i don't think i can watch the full barr testimony sober tbh. i watched all of cohen's and laughed the whole time but barr? idk man.

it's also interesting to see that cohen's testimony has pretty much disappeared beneath the surface. mueller's report came out after, of course, and that had been big news for two whole ass years, but it has arguably been more relevant based on the malarkey surrounding its release and subsequent stuff. like, ya know, barr.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on May 02, 2019, 10:41:15 PM
Hopefully soon to be Bob DisBarred.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2019, 04:14:35 PM
Well, Trump just declared executive privilege over the Mueller report.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 08, 2019, 04:27:17 PM
I have been too busy working on short-term survival (some of which has been keeping my brain held together, hence the stupid pointless research I've done) to check the news.

I remedied that just now, and the ... bickering isn't a strong enough word but it's the closest one I have, the bickering is terrifying.

Jesus fucking Christ.

I really need some insight: where does this go from here? Because I'm having a hard time putting this together in my head. The implications are enormous, far reaching, and extremely scary. And the reactions are both expected and incredibly dangerous. It feels like handing quibbling children loaded shotguns and telling them not to shoot each other.

Am I reading too deep into this situation? Or is this actually what it looks like from here (stressed, sleep deprived, just catching up to a week's lost news)?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
Well, executive privilege isn't absolute, especially when it comes to a criminal investigation.

However, the precedent that states this, US v. Nixon...well, there was an ongoing impeachment process where Nixon was trying to hide the evidence. Obviously there isn't one here.

It could end up in the Supreme Court...which we know is iffy given two of those owe their seats to Trump and would likely never recuse themselves on that basis.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: lexi on May 08, 2019, 05:50:22 PM
Quote from: nullified on May 08, 2019, 04:27:17 PM
I really need some insight: where does this go from here? Because I'm having a hard time putting this together in my head. The implications are enormous, far reaching, and extremely scary. And the reactions are both expected and incredibly dangerous. It feels like handing quibbling children loaded shotguns and telling them not to shoot each other.
There has already been blood on the streets, death and unaccountable trauma from the guy who devoted his inaugural address to "American Carnage", who routinely suggests that his apolitical base would riot to defend him, and whose allies have already hacked vital utilities and have the power to remotely disable and seize control of them. Extrapolating those trends with recent events leads to some very exciting futures indeed.

I also see the bricks being laid in a wall to contain him. He gains more detractors over time than supporters. I think the reason he is acting out in such desperation is because he knows all the reasons and then some he has to be afraid that and his family are going to lose their empire, "reputation", everything. I'm confident the institutions will continue playing whack-a-mole with him until they win, because that's what bureaucracy does. Eventually.

So how many of his supporters will riot to defend him? The solid 33% in polls that loves him unconditionally? Probably not. Some, I assume, are good people. The bottom third of those.. 11%.. enough to persuade a population in theory, just not in practice during the last two fucking never-ending years.

trump divides with godlike power, and the US Aftermath is heading serenely out of port, destination known with horrifying certainty - but how many magas will jump when the future slowly dawns on them too?

As wretchedly frustrating as watching this entire show is, the longer this process goes on.. perhaps the better?

Six More Years  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
what Cain said. also, if it does go to court, i fully expect it to be another example of the executive branch laughing at the judicial branch and doing what it wants anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Telarus on May 08, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 08, 2019, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
what Cain said. also, if it does go to court, i fully expect it to be another example of the executive branch laughing at the judicial branch and doing what it wants anyway.

This is why Congress needs an enforcement arm.

I mean, I suppose they could issue Letters of Marque and get Dyncorp to quit diddling boys for five minutes and storm the DoJ to secure the documents, but it seems like overkill.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
wouldn't matter if they did, i reckon. their ability to punish the DoJ for contempt is super fucking limited and i am reasonably certain that even if they did have an enforcement arm, all the same legalities would apply.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 08, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 08, 2019, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
what Cain said. also, if it does go to court, i fully expect it to be another example of the executive branch laughing at the judicial branch and doing what it wants anyway.

This is why Congress needs an enforcement arm.

I mean, I suppose they could issue Letters of Marque and get Dyncorp to quit diddling boys for five minutes and storm the DoJ to secure the documents, but it seems like overkill.

No, that's actuly a good idea
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 09, 2019, 01:01:59 AM
I knew the libertarian sociopath would be on board with Letters of Marque. :roll:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 09, 2019, 12:53:00 PM
https://apple.news/AwmgIdiQkQHivCzw9ykPB5Q

Our Commander-in-Chief and President, tacitly supporting suggestions that immigrants should be fucking shot, while we're going through a massive spate of hate crimes and school shootings, almost all by white citizens (certainly every single one I've seen has been, but I'm gonna leave the door open), not to mention police shootings of unarmed civilians.

If we already gun down unarmed civilians as part and parcel of our law enforcement regime, if we already have a problem with violence against minorities that nothing is being done about, and if we already have gun violence in our damn schools that isn't being stopped, what sort of message does laughing off "Shoot them!" send?

Of course, I'm nigh certain no one here needed this outlined. But as a first-thing-in-the-morning sort of deal, it's infuriating to have to see this shit. It's given me some inspiration, in fact.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 09, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
 :horrormirth: at this point, man, i'm just waiting for him to make a joke about camps or stripping Latine citizens of their citizenship.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2019, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
wouldn't matter if they did, i reckon. their ability to punish the DoJ for contempt is super fucking limited and i am reasonably certain that even if they did have an enforcement arm, all the same legalities would apply.

Options become a lot less limited when backed up with enforcement mechanisms.  I'm not necessarily saying all political power grows out of the barrel of a gun, just that it helps.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 09, 2019, 06:03:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 09, 2019, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 08, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
wouldn't matter if they did, i reckon. their ability to punish the DoJ for contempt is super fucking limited and i am reasonably certain that even if they did have an enforcement arm, all the same legalities would apply.

Options become a lot less limited when backed up with enforcement mechanisms.  I'm not necessarily saying all political power grows out of the barrel of a gun, just that it helps.
right but enforcement would still have to follow certain pre-existing rules - which are intended to insulate the DoJ so congress can't manipulate/interfere unduly. i mean, interference is due rn but historically that has not always been regarded as the case.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 09, 2019, 06:12:31 PM
Yes, but then you just end up with a system whereby the someone who ignores all the rules can continue to get away with it, because there's no enforcement options outside of his own purview.

The system needs looking at, and currently Congress lacks teeth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 09, 2019, 06:19:21 PM
we're on the same page there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 18, 2019, 01:13:34 AM
Arseface had his best public meltdown yet, when he heard that he's 2 points behind Warren.

Screeching and a torrent of profanity.

Maybe he'll die. 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-warren-realtors-speech-210238072.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2019, 01:22:27 AM
That's what I keep hoping. His heart will have to give out eventually
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 18, 2019, 01:24:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 18, 2019, 01:22:27 AM
That's what I keep hoping. His heart will have to give out eventually

You'd think, given his habits.

But he's like the Energizer Bunny had a baby with Ernst Rohm.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 18, 2019, 03:41:23 AM
I hope he doesn't die. I hope he gets himself arrested or something, has an extremely public fall from grace as the spotlight shifts and he goes from Wacky Benito to your drunken shitty uncle trying to haymaker a cop who wasn't even there for him.

I like that more, because the bottom won't be kind to him when he lands, and the camera will keep rolling all the way down. I think that would be a bigger blow to the American fascist revival than anything else that could possibly happen. They put all their eggs in one basket, as they always do, and that would smash their junk in the 24hr news cycle and make them all look like the demented inbreds they have been trying so carefully to avoid being associated with.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 18, 2019, 03:53:59 AM
Quote from: nullified on May 18, 2019, 03:41:23 AM
I hope he doesn't die. I hope he gets himself arrested or something, has an extremely public fall from grace as the spotlight shifts and he goes from Wacky Benito to your drunken shitty uncle trying to haymaker a cop who wasn't even there for him.

I like that more, because the bottom won't be kind to him when he lands, and the camera will keep rolling all the way down. I think that would be a bigger blow to the American fascist revival than anything else that could possibly happen. They put all their eggs in one basket, as they always do, and that would smash their junk in the 24hr news cycle and make them all look like the demented inbreds they have been trying so carefully to avoid being associated with.

It would be better for the republic if he was hauled off in shackles, but right now I will take what I can get.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 18, 2019, 03:56:25 AM
I certainly wouldn't complain much as long as he was out, I get that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on May 19, 2019, 03:55:25 PM
I think him dying would be, the easy way out. We need to set a precedent in the next election for this to mean anything. He has to lose. If he loses then hopefully it's a long freaking time before we have such a perfect storm of stupdity... hopefully. I know, I know, everything will always be horrible, but I can at least hope.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on May 19, 2019, 07:45:04 PM
What's the spread on the age of his supporters, anyway? Is it too much to hope for that a good chunk of them will be dropping dead soon?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 19, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 19, 2019, 07:45:04 PM
What's the spread on the age of his supporters, anyway? Is it too much to hope for that a good chunk of them will be dropping dead soon?

I think so. Can't remember the ages off hand, but I've been seeing a lot of articles that say his supporter's age bracket runs younger. 30s-40s, I think? Not sure, I'll give it a quick search in a second...

Hmm. I'm seeing weak waving at them being older than average, but no strong data. All opinion columns and shit, nothing I trust. I remember seeing a graph in the recent past, but I can't seem to find it again. Sorry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2019, 09:17:20 PM
Old people vote in larger percentages. 


Yes, I am blaming the young for not caring enough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
It's true.  Same thing over here, if young people had turned out in the same percentage as the over-65s, Brexit wouldn't have happened.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on May 19, 2019, 11:32:04 PM
If young people were somehow less fixated on indulging their hormonal impuleses... that sounds amazingly stupid in concept, surely you understand there's nothing realistic about that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 19, 2019, 09:17:20 PM
Old people vote in larger percentages. 


Yes, I am blaming the young for not caring enough.

This is not new.  And when the youth vote does manage to stagger out to the polls, they split right down the middle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Voters_for_the_President
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 20, 2019, 04:36:15 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 19, 2019, 09:17:20 PM
Old people vote in larger percentages. 


Yes, I am blaming the young for not caring enough.

Don't forget about good ol' voter suppression, too. I can't help noticing that the leading Presidential hopefuls aren't making that a prominent part of their platforms.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/434007-ending-voter-suppression-is-the-whole-game-in-2020?fbclid=IwAR2UQ4Pyl6HxrDQwYadpj7cImgRESQO2brYEm-cWdmb0zbe_1xMU9v_zJT4
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2019, 08:16:13 PM
Anyone watching today's meltdown?   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 22, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2019, 08:16:13 PM
Anyone watching today's meltdown?   :lulz:

I'll look when I get home. I expect I'll have a few hours free.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 22, 2019, 08:30:19 PM
Is that the one where he "spontaneously" walked out of infrastructure negotiations with the Dems, only to walk out to the rose garden where a podium had a placard of the exact talking points laid out on it as he complained to the press?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2019, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 22, 2019, 08:30:19 PM
Is that the one where he "spontaneously" walked out of infrastructure negotiations with the Dems, only to walk out to the rose garden where a podium had a placard of the exact talking points laid out on it as he complained to the press?

That's the one.  And then said "No deal" on infrastructure, etc, unless they stop the investigations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 22, 2019, 09:47:31 PM
And the press called it an "impromptu" press conference.


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 22, 2019, 10:10:43 PM
the way the press just enables him is infuriating. call a spade a spade, dammit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on May 22, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
spade
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2019, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 22, 2019, 09:47:31 PM
And the press called it an "impromptu" press conference.

It was so impromptu that there was a visual aid that spontaneously generated.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 23, 2019, 12:50:23 AM
This looks exactly like what the legislators he walked out on called it: a three-year-old's temper tantrum, except worse, because it was intentional and calculated to dodge the fact that he had no fucking clue how to budget infrastructure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 23, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Trump seeks to slash $8.5 billion from Education Department budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-seeks-to-slash-85-billion-from-education-department-budget/2019/03/11/69ab930e-441f-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.2840aac064c9)

you know what after school programs do? they keep kids out of trouble and away from the welcoming arms of gangs. teacher training is vital for proficiency; teaching is a fucking art and it takes a long time to master. grants allow schools to fulfill their individual needs so they can best serve their kids - cookie cutter budgeting fucks up schools.

do you know how many cool programs my district has, likely because of grants? they have magnet schools for everything from the performing arts to architecture to law to an international baccalaureate program. how many schools are going to lose programs that were the only think keeping some students from dropping out? how many are going to be unable to support their kids in other ways? (do not even get me started on private grants, especially from silicon valley and their ilk. our classrooms are not bill gates's personal fucking laboratory).

this isn't going to get through the house, probably, but i'm still filled with rage-bitter-mirth. the mask - which was wet tissue paper to start with - is off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Trump seeks to slash $8.5 billion from Education Department budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-seeks-to-slash-85-billion-from-education-department-budget/2019/03/11/69ab930e-441f-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.2840aac064c9)

you know what after school programs do? they keep kids out of trouble and away from the welcoming arms of gangs. teacher training is vital for proficiency; teaching is a fucking art and it takes a long time to master. grants allow schools to fulfill their individual needs so they can best serve their kids - cookie cutter budgeting fucks up schools.

do you know how many cool programs my district has, likely because of grants? they have magnet schools for everything from the performing arts to architecture to law to an international baccalaureate program. how many schools are going to lose programs that were the only think keeping some students from dropping out? how many are going to be unable to support their kids in other ways? (do not even get me started on private grants, especially from silicon valley and their ilk. our classrooms are not bill gates's personal fucking laboratory).

this isn't going to get through the house, probably, but i'm still filled with rage-bitter-mirth. the mask - which was wet tissue paper to start with - is off.

None of that serves the school- prison/military pipeline.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 23, 2019, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Trump seeks to slash $8.5 billion from Education Department budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-seeks-to-slash-85-billion-from-education-department-budget/2019/03/11/69ab930e-441f-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.2840aac064c9)

you know what after school programs do? they keep kids out of trouble and away from the welcoming arms of gangs. teacher training is vital for proficiency; teaching is a fucking art and it takes a long time to master. grants allow schools to fulfill their individual needs so they can best serve their kids - cookie cutter budgeting fucks up schools.

do you know how many cool programs my district has, likely because of grants? they have magnet schools for everything from the performing arts to architecture to law to an international baccalaureate program. how many schools are going to lose programs that were the only think keeping some students from dropping out? how many are going to be unable to support their kids in other ways? (do not even get me started on private grants, especially from silicon valley and their ilk. our classrooms are not bill gates's personal fucking laboratory).

this isn't going to get through the house, probably, but i'm still filled with rage-bitter-mirth. the mask - which was wet tissue paper to start with - is off.

None of that serves the school- prison/military pipeline.
you're preaching to the choir, lol. plus devos and her filthy ilk are heavily invested in charter/private schools and it's in their best interests for schools to fail from that perspective.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2019, 05:00:22 AM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Trump seeks to slash $8.5 billion from Education Department budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-seeks-to-slash-85-billion-from-education-department-budget/2019/03/11/69ab930e-441f-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.2840aac064c9)

you know what after school programs do? they keep kids out of trouble and away from the welcoming arms of gangs. teacher training is vital for proficiency; teaching is a fucking art and it takes a long time to master. grants allow schools to fulfill their individual needs so they can best serve their kids - cookie cutter budgeting fucks up schools.

do you know how many cool programs my district has, likely because of grants? they have magnet schools for everything from the performing arts to architecture to law to an international baccalaureate program. how many schools are going to lose programs that were the only think keeping some students from dropping out? how many are going to be unable to support their kids in other ways? (do not even get me started on private grants, especially from silicon valley and their ilk. our classrooms are not bill gates's personal fucking laboratory).

this isn't going to get through the house, probably, but i'm still filled with rage-bitter-mirth. the mask - which was wet tissue paper to start with - is off.

None of that serves the school- prison/military pipeline.
you're preaching to the choir, lol. plus devos and her filthy ilk are heavily invested in charter/private schools and it's in their best interests for schools to fail from that perspective.

All of that shit started with the insane butthurt over Brown v Board of Education.  Pisses me off.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 24, 2019, 06:50:15 AM
I had sort of heard of Brown while growing up, but had no idea what it was. I figured it was something obscure and technical. Because, I mean, how the fuck would people get away with, say, just as a completely random example, openly wanting something like segregated schools again, right? Surely it couldn't be that. Their political foes would burn them at the stake and be enshrined as demigods for it, right?

I was a sheltered kid. As I think I said before, I genuinely believed racism wasn't a thing anymore until I was just about 20.

The past couple years have ensured that I know better and any time I hear Brown brought up in a negative light I know I can safely write whoever that was off. Not worth my consideration or respect. Throw them in front of a road paver.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on May 24, 2019, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 24, 2019, 05:00:22 AM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Juana on May 23, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Trump seeks to slash $8.5 billion from Education Department budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-seeks-to-slash-85-billion-from-education-department-budget/2019/03/11/69ab930e-441f-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html?utm_term=.2840aac064c9)

you know what after school programs do? they keep kids out of trouble and away from the welcoming arms of gangs. teacher training is vital for proficiency; teaching is a fucking art and it takes a long time to master. grants allow schools to fulfill their individual needs so they can best serve their kids - cookie cutter budgeting fucks up schools.

do you know how many cool programs my district has, likely because of grants? they have magnet schools for everything from the performing arts to architecture to law to an international baccalaureate program. how many schools are going to lose programs that were the only think keeping some students from dropping out? how many are going to be unable to support their kids in other ways? (do not even get me started on private grants, especially from silicon valley and their ilk. our classrooms are not bill gates's personal fucking laboratory).

this isn't going to get through the house, probably, but i'm still filled with rage-bitter-mirth. the mask - which was wet tissue paper to start with - is off.

None of that serves the school- prison/military pipeline.
you're preaching to the choir, lol. plus devos and her filthy ilk are heavily invested in charter/private schools and it's in their best interests for schools to fail from that perspective.

All of that shit started with the insane butthurt over Brown v Board of Education.  Pisses me off.
yeeeeep. same hat, as the children say. i don't reckon this bill is going to to make it through the house but that this bullshit is even being proposed is monstrous.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 24, 2019, 08:20:12 PM
Reminder: I am transgender, terminally homeless, and most often in middling to poor health.

https://apple.news/AxmbCj2SmQUGPryvwuGpkaQ

Presented without other comment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on May 25, 2019, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: nullified on May 24, 2019, 06:50:15 AM
I had sort of heard of Brown while growing up, but had no idea what it was. I figured it was something obscure and technical. Because, I mean, how the fuck would people get away with, say, just as a completely random example, openly wanting something like segregated schools again, right? Surely it couldn't be that. Their political foes would burn them at the stake and be enshrined as demigods for it, right?

I was a sheltered kid. As I think I said before, I genuinely believed racism wasn't a thing anymore until I was just about 20.

Racism is like a villain from a horror movie. It's dead in some senses, but it refuses to pass on, instead remaining on earth to plague those who still live. And every time it seems to be defeated there's one more sequel.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2019, 05:37:42 PM
I see Nadler wimped out on the Barr contempt thing.   :kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64223410_10157265714739393_5439941320107884544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=2a3c3a993af5d3cfd1973433e96cd058&oe=5D97EE6F)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2019, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64223410_10157265714739393_5439941320107884544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=2a3c3a993af5d3cfd1973433e96cd058&oe=5D97EE6F)

Wait.  What?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2019, 11:43:26 PM
Yup.

Kim Jong-Un's half brother, the one who got a face full of VX in an airport, was reportedly a CIA source.

Trump says he wouldn't violate Kim Jong-Un's trust like that, because Kim wrote him "a beautiful letter".

Edit: he was killed shortly after Trump became President. So this isn't a denial, it's a "Obama was bad for spying on you" statement.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2019, 02:24:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8zR7MrWsAE-c2l.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 12, 2019, 04:51:02 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2019, 11:43:26 PM
Yup.

Kim Jong-Un's half brother, the one who got a face full of VX in an airport, was reportedly a CIA source.

Trump says he wouldn't violate Kim Jong-Un's trust like that, because Kim wrote him "a beautiful letter".

Edit: he was killed shortly after Trump became President. So this isn't a denial, it's a "Obama was bad for spying on you" statement.

You know damn well Trump gave him up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 12, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
There's a few timeline discrepancies that would suggest against that, but it wouldn't be out of character (the US turning a blind eye to the murder of Khasoggi) and a failure to even remotely care about protecting US sources is damning enough on its own.

I wouldn't sell info the CIA, right now. Maybe MI6 or the Canadians, but definitely not the CIA. Between Barr's pending investigation and this and the Israeli intel incident, I couldn't trust that I wouldn't die as a consequence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 13, 2019, 12:28:23 AM
President "NO COLLUSION" Trump on taking information from foreign governments on his political enemies:

"I think I'd take it. (https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/trump-i-think-i-d-take-foreign-help-for-2020-61802565891?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_bw&fbclid=IwAR2eFiuPbNPxerquac1U1aDotKPCx1_LJdpPaepDYWveKbfqNeD-iy_BMWc)"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 13, 2019, 01:23:32 AM
Translation: "I'll do anything I want right out in the open and nobody can do a fucking thing."

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2019, 05:07:45 AM
Quote from: kiss my axe on June 13, 2019, 01:23:32 AM
Translation: "I'll do anything I want right out in the open and nobody can do a fucking thing."

Spot on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2019, 06:32:27 AM
Also, Nadler punted yesterday, and the Big Orange Piss Baby spent today more or less inviting foreign nations to fuck with our next election.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on June 13, 2019, 01:53:59 PM

What a meme  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 14, 2019, 01:08:52 AM
Republican blocks bill requiring campaigns to alert FBI to foreign assistance (https://www.axios.com/marsha-blackburn-foreign-offers-assistance-campaigns-fab324f4-a630-41aa-9b90-a6fc4ca5c5d0.html)

Complicit motherfuc...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 14, 2019, 03:31:22 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 14, 2019, 01:08:52 AM
Republican blocks bill requiring campaigns to alert FBI to foreign assistance (https://www.axios.com/marsha-blackburn-foreign-offers-assistance-campaigns-fab324f4-a630-41aa-9b90-a6fc4ca5c5d0.html)

Complicit motherfuc...

There's no sense getting worked up about it now.  This is the new normal.  The republic is as dead as yesterday's fish sandwich.

The most you can do is wait and watch for a chance to stick your thumb in their eye.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 15, 2019, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 14, 2019, 03:31:22 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 14, 2019, 01:08:52 AM
Republican blocks bill requiring campaigns to alert FBI to foreign assistance (https://www.axios.com/marsha-blackburn-foreign-offers-assistance-campaigns-fab324f4-a630-41aa-9b90-a6fc4ca5c5d0.html)

Complicit motherfuc...

There's no sense getting worked up about it now.  This is the new normal.  The republic is as dead as yesterday's fish sandwich.

The most you can do is wait and watch for a chance to stick your thumb in their eye.

Funny how it's always like one holdout--taking it for the team. Last time it was John Rose with the disaster relief bill :argh!:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2019, 06:42:17 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 15, 2019, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 14, 2019, 03:31:22 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on June 14, 2019, 01:08:52 AM
Republican blocks bill requiring campaigns to alert FBI to foreign assistance (https://www.axios.com/marsha-blackburn-foreign-offers-assistance-campaigns-fab324f4-a630-41aa-9b90-a6fc4ca5c5d0.html)

Complicit motherfuc...

There's no sense getting worked up about it now.  This is the new normal.  The republic is as dead as yesterday's fish sandwich.

The most you can do is wait and watch for a chance to stick your thumb in their eye.

Funny how it's always like one holdout--taking it for the team. Last time it was John Rose with the disaster relief bill :argh!:

One day, they will all be made to "sneeze into the basket," but I fear that day is not happening this month.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2019, 02:14:19 PM
She's very close friends with an attorney who is a very close friend of the Russian oligarch who helps to bankroll the NRA.

Just saying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 20, 2019, 06:22:02 AM
Trump admin is now arguing it does not need to provide soap or toothbrushes to detained immigrant children.

But the real outrage is them being referred to as "concentration camps", remember.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 20, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
A thousand tiny little cruelties. But what's a lifetime of bad teeth when you've already got CPTSD and an attachment disorder?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 20, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
Oh, oh, I can answer this!

Actually not much. When the mental damage piles up high enough, basic maintenance of your health becomes really hard. The little things that tell most people something is wrong and should be addressed get buried under the whomping massive signals that everything is wrong forever and can't be fixed.

I have trouble recognizing when I'm thirsty, hungry and tired, these things blend into my emotional damage. I have to concentrate to differentiate sickness from depression. My health is so bad that I actively have to avoid thinking too hard about it or I'll make it worse by way of stress responses.

And I'd argue that my life was, at the absolute worst, no more than equal to the luckiest kids there. And I'm as fucked up as I said above.

So yeah. The teeth will very likely be a drop in the bucket. If the Hep A outbreak going around the homeless community right now breaks in, they might well have trouble recognizing /that./ All of which makes it even more important to provide the tools to keep their health up in the first place, but our brilliant pile of toxic fucking waste in the throne room disagrees, so who am I to question?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2019, 12:44:54 AM
"The cruelty is the point." (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:53:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 20, 2019, 06:22:02 AM
Trump admin is now arguing it does not need to provide soap or toothbrushes to detained immigrant children.

But the real outrage is them being referred to as "concentration camps", remember.

:lol:

If George Takei calls them concentration camps, I'll take his word for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2019, 12:44:54 AM
"The cruelty is the point." (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/)

Oh, I know that intimately and on multiple levels. It's just an observation.

Also, denying them soap is how you create conditions for one hell of an epidemic, come to think of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 03:10:19 AM
Quote from: Juana on June 21, 2019, 01:50:50 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2019, 12:44:54 AM
"The cruelty is the point." (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/)

Oh, I know that intimately and on multiple levels. It's just an observation.

Also, denying them soap is how you create conditions for one hell of an epidemic, come to think of it.

And when disease doesn't do the job fast enough, they will "go up the stack."

I've heard this joke before.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
There are no words.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/arthur-laffer-medal-of-freedom.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 21, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
No, there sure are, and those words are "rotten filth caked pigfucking cartoon caricature Ebenezer Scrooge demons".

Followed by five minutes of incoherent yelling at the blank space you imagine the two aforementioned rotten filth caked pigfucking cartoon caricature Ebenezer Scrooge demons to be in.

Then ambulance sirens after the blood pressure spikes high enough to bust a leak that works as a fine water jet cutter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 05:36:11 AM
Quote from: nullified on June 21, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
No, there sure are, and those words are "rotten filth caked pigfucking cartoon caricature Ebenezer Scrooge demons".

Followed by five minutes of incoherent yelling at the blank space you imagine the two aforementioned rotten filth caked pigfucking cartoon caricature Ebenezer Scrooge demons to be in.

Then ambulance sirens after the blood pressure spikes high enough to bust a leak that works as a fine water jet cutter.

You aren't even joking.  I need Navcat to come take me away in the boo boo bus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 21, 2019, 05:51:37 AM
Honestly, it's not that he would do it that gets me, because of course he would. It's that I don't think that you can take that shit back, right? So now a perfectly okay if kind of bruised and misshapen institution has shit smeared on it, forever.

We forever have this horrible stain on the history of "who are the best people in the eyes of our nation," this gibbering pile of syphilis sores and jenkem gets to keep the company of civil rights leaders, Jonas Salk, Rachel Carson... then again I guess we already have fucking Reagan in the list, what's one more awful little sock puppet made of rancid pork trimmings stewed in a vat of fluorine?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 06:24:11 AM
Quote from: nullified on June 21, 2019, 05:51:37 AM
Honestly, it's not that he would do it that gets me, because of course he would. It's that I don't think that you can take that shit back, right? So now a perfectly okay if kind of bruised and misshapen institution has shit smeared on it, forever.

We forever have this horrible stain on the history of "who are the best people in the eyes of our nation," this gibbering pile of syphilis sores and jenkem gets to keep the company of civil rights leaders, Jonas Salk, Rachel Carson... then again I guess we already have fucking Reagan in the list, what's one more awful little sock puppet made of rancid pork trimmings stewed in a vat of fluorine?

Well, he already gave one to Tiger Woods, so why not keep digging?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
There are no words.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/arthur-laffer-medal-of-freedom.html
What in the actual fuck?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:16:24 AM
Oh, also  Trump approved and then abruptly cancelled "limited" air strikes on Iran. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2019, 08:17:32 AM
When it comes to Iran I really don't think that Trump wants war. Bolton does, and Trump is using that as maximum pressure for some great negotiation for...something (as if Iran is going to negotiate anything in the near future, after junking the JCPOA).

The problem is, of course, apart from the security dilemma this places Iran in, is that Trump is an easily frustrated manchild whose belief in his abilities far exceeds his actual ability, and so war can happen regardless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 21, 2019, 08:17:32 AM
When it comes to Iran I really don't think that Trump wants war. Bolton does, and Trump is using that as maximum pressure for some great negotiation for...something (as if Iran is going to negotiate anything in the near future, after junking the JCPOA).

The problem is, of course, apart from the security dilemma this places Iran in, is that Trump is an easily frustrated manchild whose belief in his abilities far exceeds his actual ability, and so war can happen regardless.
I hadn't considered that angle. Hmm. Interesting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2019, 04:50:39 PM
It's very similar to his North Korea playbook. Look how that started, with the threats and ratcheting up of tensions.

Also worth keeping in mind with Trump is his vision of himself as a great negotiator. "Art of the Deal" and so on. That the "great dealmaker" has, so far, failed to strike a deal on better terms than the one Obama did no doubt rankles him on a daily basis.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 05:28:31 PM
Oh, very likely. I haven't paid enough attention to what he's been doing with North Korea beyond fawning over Kim Jong-Un 😬, so I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2019, 06:17:29 PM
You may recall "fire and fury" and "rocketman", from before they became best buddies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
Yes, I do recall some mortified squinting at those tweets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 21, 2019, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:53:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 20, 2019, 06:22:02 AM
Trump admin is now arguing it does not need to provide soap or toothbrushes to detained immigrant children.

But the real outrage is them being referred to as "concentration camps", remember.

:lol:

If George Takei calls them concentration camps, I'll take his word for it.

I'll also take his word that these are worse because the Japanese kids weren't separated from their parents.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 21, 2019, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
There are no words.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/arthur-laffer-medal-of-freedom.html
What in the actual fuck?

Exactly what it looks like. The Banana Republic of America sucking ass with yet another shitbag.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 21, 2019, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: kiss my axe on June 21, 2019, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
There are no words.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/arthur-laffer-medal-of-freedom.html
What in the actual fuck?

Exactly what it looks like. The Banana Republic of America sucking ass with yet another shitbag.
I know. I'm still bewildered. This is the weirdest timeline.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 22, 2019, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: Juana on June 21, 2019, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: kiss my axe on June 21, 2019, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Juana on June 21, 2019, 07:14:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 04:27:39 AM
There are no words.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/arthur-laffer-medal-of-freedom.html
What in the actual fuck?

Exactly what it looks like. The Banana Republic of America sucking ass with yet another shitbag.
I know. I'm still bewildered. This is the weirdest timeline.

Yeah. It's not even interesting any more, the way bizarre horror ought to be interesting if you can put your feelings aside and just study it. It's tedious, like wiping your ass on a wheel, same shit over and over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2019, 03:19:37 AM
Trump is now demanding that Iran live up to the deal *he* scrapped.  :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 22, 2019, 06:32:36 AM
They need to take a tip from Kim Jong-un and understand that he's a dotard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 22, 2019, 07:20:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2019, 03:19:37 AM
Trump is now demanding that Iran live up to the deal *he* scrapped.  :lol:
Man, what a time to be alive
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2019, 11:26:32 PM
So here's a fun story (https://theintercept.com/2019/06/22/cbp-border-searches-journalists/?fbclid=IwAR3e8nv3WWlTtNQ6GICrBcrQZH64eiqUVVrUZD7S0FVv_7O6bHoVP5aSLy4) about how the Border Patrol love to act like Nazis in a cheap, low budget film.

QuoteAustin is where I was born and raised, and I usually get waved through immigration after one or two questions. I'm also a white man; more on that later. This time, when my turn came to show my passport, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer was more aggressive than usual in his questioning. I told him I'd been in Mexico for seven days for work, that I was a journalist, and that I travel to Mexico often, as he could see from my passport. That wasn't enough for him, though. He wanted to know the substance of the story I was currently working on, which didn't sit right with me. I tried to skirt the question, but he came back to it, pointedly.

I was going on three hours of sleep, and I hadn't had anything to eat in the last 12 hours besides some popcorn and peanuts and a Monster energy drink. Had my blood sugar been higher, I might have cheerfully told him. Instead, I muttered something about not having a legal obligation, under the circumstances, to disclose the contents of my reporting.

The agent, whose name was Moncivias, said we would see about that.

QuoteA bespectacled supervisor named Lopez made an appearance. In a polite back-and-forth, I learned that I was not under arrest or suspected of any crime, and my citizenship was not in doubt, but if I didn't answer the question asked by the "incident officer," I wouldn't be allowed into the United States. He handed me some brochures and left the room.

QuoteIn general, law enforcement agents have to get a warrant to search your electronic devices. That's the gist of the 2014 Supreme Court case Riley v. California. But the Riley ruling only applies when the police arrest you. The Supreme Court has not yet decided whether the same protections apply to American citizens reentering the United States from abroad, and federal appeals courts have issued contradictory opinions. In the absence of a controlling legal authority, CBP goes by its own rules, namely CBP Directive No. 3340-049A, pursuant to which CBP can search any person's device, at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all. If you refuse to give up your password, CBP's policy is to seize the device. The agency may use "external equipment" to crack the passcode, "not merely to gain access to the device, but to review, copy, and/or analyze its contents," according to the directive. CBP can look for any kind of evidence, any kind of information, and can share what it finds with any other federal agency, so long as doing so is "consistent with applicable law and policy."

I had my doubts as to whether they could actually crack my iPhone and MacBook, but I didn't doubt that they would be happy to confiscate them. So I decided to take another tack: I told the officers I had nothing to hide, but I felt I had a professional obligation to call an attorney for further advice. Pomeroy said I could not because I wasn't under arrest; I just wasn't allowed to enter the United States. I wasn't allowed to leave the Homeland Security zone, either. I know because I tried to sort of wander out a couple of times and got yelled at. When I actually tried to call a lawyer friend of mine in Austin, Pomeroy stopped me. They held onto my phone from then out.

QuoteAt one point, Pomeroy was standing over my laptop on the desk. I couldn't see the screen, and he had such a puzzled expression on his face that I stood up to see what he was looking at. "Get back," he said, clapping a hand on his sidearm. "I don't know if you're going for my gun." At another point, Pomeroy had taken my laptop to the desk in the waiting area, and I thought I heard him call for me to come over, so I did. "Stand back from my gun," he said, when he saw me approaching; it turns out he had been talking to someone else. Three times during the course of the secondary screening, Pomeroy pronounced words to the effect that he was subjectively forming a reasonable belief that I might grab his service weapon.

It was an implicit death threat and a rhetorical move on part of the police that will be familiar to people of color: I've got a gun on you, ergo, you're a threat to me. Speaking of which, I'm certain this whole experience would have been worse had I been black or brown instead of white. And that is to say nothing of migrants and refugees, whose treatment at the hands of CBP on the U.S.-Mexico border is another matter altogether. But it does go to show that you can't contain a culture of aggression to one part of an armed agency.

I was being physically submissive, keeping my hands visible at all times, not making any sudden moves, but Pomeroy would not let me see the laptop screen. I told him I at least had the right to know what files he was reviewing. "All of them," he said, giving me a hard stare. "I'm going to look at all of them."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 23, 2019, 12:07:24 AM
The only person who would leave the perfect state is an enemy of the perfect state. Why else would you choose imperfection over perfection?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 23, 2019, 12:58:57 AM
Well.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/21/media/time-photographer-trump-threat/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 27, 2019, 05:07:11 AM
Mueller to testify publicly on July 17 following a subpoena

As per the article:

"Robert Mueller will testify before Congress on July 17 after House Democrats issued a subpoena for his appearance, a move that paves the way for a reluctant special counsel to answer questions publicly for the first time about his 22-month investigation into President Donald Trump.

The House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees announced Tuesday that Mueller had agreed to testify after they issued subpoenas for his testimony, and Mueller would appear in public before the two panels next month."

Here's the link: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics/robert-mueller-will-testify/index.html

So, what are the odds Mueller will actually show up, if Trump claims he is barred from testifying by reason of Executive Privilege? Based upon the Special Counsel's behavior to date, I'm not feeling particularly optimistic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 27, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
What could he possibly have to say that isn't in the report?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
He likely will literally repeat the report in the hearing.

The only thing they might be able to wrangle out of him is some further details on specific incidents of behaviour he deemed as obstructing his investigation.

Also they want soundbites they can run throughout 2020.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 28, 2019, 02:14:25 AM
I'm still gonna watch it. It'll be a repeat of the Cohen hearing, probably, and less juicy, but I'm gonna do the thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 28, 2019, 08:11:37 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 27, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
He likely will literally repeat the report in the hearing.

The only thing they might be able to wrangle out of him is some further details on specific incidents of behaviour he deemed as obstructing his investigation.

Also they want soundbites they can run throughout 2020.
The one thing he wouldn't answer previously was "Do you think there should be an investigation / impeachment proceedings etc" to which he responded "Its in my report it speaks for itself"
I don't know can they force him to testify on the question "In your personal opinion what do you think the next steps are on this", but I suppose he will just say, "read the report, you decide".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 28, 2019, 11:43:38 PM
Given he's repeatedly said that if called will just read the report as statement, it's probably going to become quickly apparent who has even read it in full in the first place. I'm expecting some full on special Olympics of mental gymnastics to be on full display. All sides.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 28, 2019, 11:43:38 PM
Given he's repeatedly said that if called will just read the report as statement, it's probably going to become quickly apparent who has even read it in full in the first place. I'm expecting some full on special Olympics of mental gymnastics to be on full display. All sides.

Our people didn't make the team.  It's very sad.   :cry:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 26, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea

Christ, he's dumb.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 26, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea

Christ, he's dumb.

When you look at his audience, maybe he isn't so dumb.  He's not talking to you and I, Vex.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on July 27, 2019, 04:16:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 26, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea

Christ, he's dumb.


When you look at his audience, maybe he isn't so dumb.  He's not talking to you and I, Vex.



I think I've said it before, but I don't think he's dumb.

I do think he has a very good understanding of how dumb people think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 27, 2019, 06:40:38 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 27, 2019, 04:16:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on July 26, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea

Christ, he's dumb.


When you look at his audience, maybe he isn't so dumb.  He's not talking to you and I, Vex.



I think I've said it before, but I don't think he's dumb.

I do think he has a very good understanding of how dumb people think.

I get really tired of people attributing to stupidity and incompetence what actually is psychopathy and deliberate malice. Like i know its more "comforting" in the sense that its like "well, thats that", instead of thinking the inner workings every single time over and over but come on.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 27, 2019, 10:08:51 AM
These are, of course, the same social media giants France is proposing taxing that Trump keeps saying are horribly biased against him and conservatives.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Trump is a tragic victim of reverse racism.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/4175ea0e61e746cd95d7c684cd6a59f7
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on July 29, 2019, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Trump is a tragic victim of reverse racism.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/4175ea0e61e746cd95d7c684cd6a59f7

The classic, "I know you are but what am I," defense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Revolving door is gonna revolve.

https://apnews.com/6ad59c9104dc425bba166de4b9723612
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2019, 09:35:14 PM
Definitely the best way to get intelligence is from someone fiercly defensive of your positions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 29, 2019, 09:35:14 PM
Definitely the best way to get intelligence is from someone fiercly defensive of your positions.

Yeah.  What could go wrong?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2019, 09:47:22 PM
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/884016887692234753

Looks like we'll finally get that Putin / Trump "impenetrable Cyber Security unit" we were promised
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2019, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on July 29, 2019, 09:47:22 PM
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/884016887692234753

Looks like we'll finally get that Putin / Trump "impenetrable Cyber Security unit" we were promised

The hens:  "We talked about security with the fox."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 30, 2019, 05:00:36 PM
Trump triples-down on racism.

https://www.apnews.com/bde0d590becf4d21a6601038ca828e3a

"You People love me!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 30, 2019, 05:13:42 PM
I lost an eyeball under the furniture from rolling them too hard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 30, 2019, 09:57:51 PM
Quote from: Juana on July 30, 2019, 05:13:42 PM
I lost an eyeball under the furniture from rolling them too hard.

If you are against Trump, you are against black people.  Even if you're a black congressman who just got told by the president of the United States that you have a bone stuck through your nose and that's why your city is feral.

Or words to that effect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 30, 2019, 11:47:31 PM
Apparently so.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 31, 2019, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
Now France is the enemy.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/a4e811bd0d3b428dac7a93b4cde67aea

Wait! Trump doesn't drink alcohol!? Could've fooled me.

EDIT:
Oh wait, he became famous in the 1980's. I guess he probably does cocaine instead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 02, 2019, 07:46:50 PM
Trump gives up on NID pick after media unfairly tells the truth about him.

https://www.apnews.com/52951f9774bb45fda3104667d84f7355
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 09, 2019, 10:29:21 PM
AMERICA, AMERIRRRRRICA...

https://www.apnews.com/26c7aeb48fda4a168232241714e8d775

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 09, 2019, 10:55:35 PM
I lost an eyeball under my dresser from rolling them too hard.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 09, 2019, 11:35:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 09, 2019, 10:29:21 PM
AMERICA, AMERIRRRRRICA...

https://www.apnews.com/26c7aeb48fda4a168232241714e8d775

:lulz:

Problem solved, now we can move on with our lives  :wink:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 10, 2019, 12:10:05 AM
Lord knows everyone who committed a shooting in the early 80s was all hopped up on fucking Pac-Man.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 11, 2019, 12:22:07 AM
Yeah, so Trump just retweeted something about how Clinton had Epstein killed.


https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1160256105399967744

I can only post the original, but not the retweet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2019, 12:44:30 AM
I got a screenshot for you

(https://i.imgur.com/cbT6P9q.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 11, 2019, 12:47:11 AM
And this one

(https://i.imgur.com/XGuJHtm.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 11, 2019, 01:12:20 AM
Thanks, Cain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 12, 2019, 09:26:57 AM
So now I guess Trump is going after social media companies because they're so mean to conservatives.

All the gun nut channels can't get enough of it, and hope he goes after Youtube as well.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20798759/trump-social-media-regulation-fcc-ftc-conservative-bias?fbclid=IwAR375UZWurz0Y_VYJoPCIvNyf0SjVKqYwJEDUdAdLfBrg8TlSkIrUAvL4EQ
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 12, 2019, 10:04:37 AM
Well we know Trump's Whitehouse has been looking at doing "something" regarding the First Amendment for a while now.

The hypocrisy is delicious, but I'm concerned at the damage Trump can do between making a ruling and the courts actually getting to look at it in-depth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 12, 2019, 06:23:59 PM
Seems like they want these websites to either have to give up their status as a "platform" (as opposed to a "publisher"), and be legally liable for all content, or give up any and all ability to regulate said content.

Basically, they want 8chan everywhere, all the time, as mandated by the federal government.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2019, 06:05:35 PM
"We didn't mean brown people."

https://www.apnews.com/290fe000b4584ddca46a6eb36a74a703
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
Now trucking companies can hire less people, and all it will cost us is horrible wrecks.

https://www.apnews.com/78191e1e8c1949a0b0f6ae70ce6102cc
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 14, 2019, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
Now trucking companies can hire less people, and all it will cost us is horrible wrecks.

https://www.apnews.com/78191e1e8c1949a0b0f6ae70ce6102cc

"[...] for safer and more flexible rules."

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 14, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
And starting today I have even fewer legal protections (!) and am goddamn fortunate that Boston is excellent and this company is by far the most overtly trans friendly one I've ever even heard of.

A lot of my friends and acquaintances are about to be fucked.

https://apple.news/AEiCTB3fJRwOTWHbDDZdu7g
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 14, 2019, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
Now trucking companies can hire less people, and all it will cost us is horrible wrecks.

https://www.apnews.com/78191e1e8c1949a0b0f6ae70ce6102cc
Ya know, I'd be fully in favor of truckers actually being listened to re: what they need but also??? There's a fucking reason those laws exist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 14, 2019, 08:16:25 PM
Quote from: nullified on August 14, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
And starting today I have even fewer legal protections (!) and am goddamn fortunate that Boston is excellent and this company is by far the most overtly trans friendly one I’ve ever even heard of.

A lot of my friends and acquaintances are about to be fucked.

https://apple.news/AEiCTB3fJRwOTWHbDDZdu7g
Aaaand my queer ass is never leaving the education field unless this is reversed. Thank God for California. Fuck. So many of us are gonna be boned now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on August 14, 2019, 09:15:03 PM
Anyone see what the Teamsters had to say about it?

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 14, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
Now trucking companies can hire less people, and all it will cost us is horrible wrecks.

https://www.apnews.com/78191e1e8c1949a0b0f6ae70ce6102cc
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 15, 2019, 04:31:33 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 14, 2019, 08:16:25 PM
Quote from: nullified on August 14, 2019, 07:14:50 PM
And starting today I have even fewer legal protections (!) and am goddamn fortunate that Boston is excellent and this company is by far the most overtly trans friendly one I've ever even heard of.

A lot of my friends and acquaintances are about to be fucked.

https://apple.news/AEiCTB3fJRwOTWHbDDZdu7g
Aaaand my queer ass is never leaving the education field unless this is reversed. Thank God for California. Fuck. So many of us are gonna be boned now.

That is absolutely infuriating
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
Famous last words.

https://www.apnews.com/4ad2fadb147145b49eb7e343ceb4aa2b


White House insists fundamentals of US economy 'very strong'
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 20, 2019, 09:18:21 PM
This is from a US president who insists a recession can't be around the corner because everyone is "very rich".

So, you know, clearly an expert is talking.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on August 21, 2019, 08:36:58 PM
I found a thing from 1989

https://www.docdroid.net/LDo4rlB/donald-trumps-demonic-conspiracy-to-take-over-america.pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/LDo4rlB/donald-trumps-demonic-conspiracy-to-take-over-america.pdf)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 21, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU

This explains a really weird amount of the disproportionate pull QAnon has had.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: nullified on August 21, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU

This explains a really weird amount of the disproportionate pull QAnon has had.

It does.

It also made at least one researcher, someone who is pretty much an expert in Aum Shinrikyo, freak out.

Because she's been saying for years that Aum didn't start out as a terrorist group. No, they started out as a new age movement with a side in conspiracy theory.

What happened with Qanon a couple of years back? It got mixed up not just in apocalyptic Christianity, but also J.Z. Knight, the notorious New Age huckster that she is. And now we have Falun Gong, another group with some deeply weird New Age beliefs in the mix, downplayed though these are by those who want to needle the Chinese government. New Age + conspiracism + a belief in being persecuted = biological weapons on the Tokyo subway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 22, 2019, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: nullified on August 21, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU

This explains a really weird amount of the disproportionate pull QAnon has had.

It does.

It also made at least one researcher, someone who is pretty much an expert in Aum Shinrikyo, freak out.

Because she's been saying for years that Aum didn't start out as a terrorist group. No, they started out as a new age movement with a side in conspiracy theory.

What happened with Qanon a couple of years back? It got mixed up not just in apocalyptic Christianity, but also J.Z. Knight, the notorious New Age huckster that she is. And now we have Falun Gong, another group with some deeply weird New Age beliefs in the mix, downplayed though these are by those who want to needle the Chinese government. New Age + conspiracism + a belief in being persecuted = biological weapons on the Tokyo subway.

Great scott! That's fucking insane. J.Z. Knight .... that's the What the Bleep? loon. do you have a link for the ties between qanon and "Ramtha"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 22, 2019, 02:02:54 PM
Jesus, Ramtha always pops up eventually.... Raelianism can't be too far away.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2019, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on August 22, 2019, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: nullified on August 21, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU

This explains a really weird amount of the disproportionate pull QAnon has had.

It does.

It also made at least one researcher, someone who is pretty much an expert in Aum Shinrikyo, freak out.

Because she's been saying for years that Aum didn't start out as a terrorist group. No, they started out as a new age movement with a side in conspiracy theory.

What happened with Qanon a couple of years back? It got mixed up not just in apocalyptic Christianity, but also J.Z. Knight, the notorious New Age huckster that she is. And now we have Falun Gong, another group with some deeply weird New Age beliefs in the mix, downplayed though these are by those who want to needle the Chinese government. New Age + conspiracism + a belief in being persecuted = biological weapons on the Tokyo subway.

Great scott! That's fucking insane. J.Z. Knight .... that's the What the Bleep? loon. do you have a link for the ties between qanon and "Ramtha"?

Sure thing

https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-teams-up-with-alleged-cult-leader

QuoteSince last year, Knight has begun to incorporate the anonymous online clues left by the anonymous QAnon into her Ramtha lore. In one statement from "Ramtha" provided to The Daily Beast by Knight's group, the Ramtha School of Enlightenment, the spirit declares that the person behind QAnon "is divine intelligence."

"It is challenging the entire world and the evil network in every country every country — and taking them down," the statement praising QAnon reads.

Knight's embrace of QAnon marks the latest bizarre evolution for the conspiracy theory, which has appeared everywhere from Trump rallies to the White House, where the president posed for a picture with a QAnon leader. The conspiracy theory has also been tied to two murders.

Like other QAnon promoters, Knight has begun to make merchandise based on the conspiracy theory, selling hats and T-shirts with "Q" branding. Knight has also tried to use QAnon to sell copies of her book, claiming that QAnon clues are actually signs that people should read her "great book."

Knight has found a friendly reception with some top QAnon promoters, who have started flocking to the group's "The Ranch" property in Yelm, Wa. for QAnon-intensive events.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 22, 2019, 04:20:58 PM
Deeply fucking concerning. Not much more to say.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 23, 2019, 02:45:45 AM
Thanks, Cain. It sounds like maybe her (their?) numbers were low and found a kindred...uh...spirit? You can't write this shit
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
It's also worth mentioning that The Epoch Times was one of the most popular (and in some months, THE most popular) "news" outlet on Facebook.

QuoteIn April, at the height of its ad spending, videos from the Epoch Media Group, which includes The Epoch Times and digital video outlet New Tang Dynasty, or NTD, combined for around 3 billion views on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, ranking 11th among all video creators across platforms and outranking every other traditional news publisher, according to data from the social media analytics company Tubular.

That engagement has made The Epoch Times a favorite of the Trump family and a key component of the president's re-election campaign. The president's Facebook page has posted Epoch Times content at least half a dozen times this year— with several articles written by members of the Trump campaign. Donald Trump Jr. has tweeted several of their stories, too.

Naturally, most of us won't have seen it, because we're not the target audience. But think of all those ageing Boomers and Trump freaks...and those in their immediate circle, all being bombarded by a Falun Gong psy-op that promoted Qanon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 03:10:44 PM
And then this just happened.


https://www.apnews.com/84c8781157484f8ebb4c3f462f38e30d

China strikes back.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 23, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
It's also worth mentioning that The Epoch Times was one of the most popular (and in some months, THE most popular) "news" outlet on Facebook.

QuoteIn April, at the height of its ad spending, videos from the Epoch Media Group, which includes The Epoch Times and digital video outlet New Tang Dynasty, or NTD, combined for around 3 billion views on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, ranking 11th among all video creators across platforms and outranking every other traditional news publisher, according to data from the social media analytics company Tubular.

That engagement has made The Epoch Times a favorite of the Trump family and a key component of the president's re-election campaign. The president's Facebook page has posted Epoch Times content at least half a dozen times this year— with several articles written by members of the Trump campaign. Donald Trump Jr. has tweeted several of their stories, too.

Naturally, most of us won't have seen it, because we're not the target audience. But think of all those ageing Boomers and Trump freaks...and those in their immediate circle, all being bombarded by a Falun Gong psy-op that promoted Qanon.

We have people saying, with straight face "The press is fake news, do what you like to them."

https://apnews.com/20df23e0747f457d9ae5b6cda78df32c

So it seems to be working.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 04:17:55 PM
Temper tantrums ITT.

https://www.apnews.com/77522349659b4f7680d60fbdacafa6c6

Quote"As usual, the Fed did NOTHING!" Trump tweeted. "It is incredible that they can 'speak' without knowing or asking what I am doing, which will be announced shortly. We have a very strong dollar and a very weak Fed. I will work "brilliantly" with both, and the U.S. will do great."

And also

Quote"My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powel (sic) or Chairman Xi?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 04:21:02 PM
Trump thinks the banks have to wait on him.

Meanwhile, OuR BrIllIaNt eCoNOmY:

https://www.apnews.com/588d4ce8bd93461191b9038b28e59b4f

Remember Fucked Company in 2006?  "The gains are permanent.  Buy now or be priced out forever!"  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2019, 06:07:46 PM
President Trump is now ordering (via Twitter) American businesses to stop doing business in China and to find alternative suppliers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 23, 2019, 07:06:40 PM
Presumably, preferably russian.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
Well for now I'm just enjoying the irony of people who screech all day about Communism worshipping a president who tells them who they can and cannot buy from.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 23, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
Well for now I'm just enjoying the irony of people who screech all day about Communism worshipping a president who tells them who they can and cannot buy from.

:lulz:

I imagine he thinks he can unilaterally drop binding sanctions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 23, 2019, 08:38:34 PM
Here you go, Cain, just like you said:

https://www.apnews.com/eb7990e10d6549c3a92d773b0ae62a4e

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump declared Friday that he had "hereby ordered" American companies "to immediately start looking" for alternatives to operating in China, hours after Beijing announced new trade sanctions on U.S. products.

But as markets in the U.S., Asia and Europe tumbled, the White House offered no further details or explanation of Trump's intentions.

Instead, the president tweeted that he would be "responding to China's Tariffs this afternoon."

"This is a GREAT opportunity for the United States" he wrote.

The rising tensions between the world's two biggest economies unnerved investors already on edge about the deteriorating world economy. By early afternoon Friday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average has dropped more than 485 points.

"There doesn't seem to be a floor under the spiraling down of the relationship, and world markets are reacting negatively to a business climate beset by uncertainty and risk," said Douglas Barry, spokesman for the U.S.-China Business Council. "It's unclear what the strategy is or if there is a strategy."

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
Yeah, I follow Trump on Twitter, so I saw him making his King-like decree in real time. I like to get the derp unfiltered and as soon as possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on August 23, 2019, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 23, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
Yeah, I follow Trump on Twitter, so I saw him making his King-like decree in real time. I like to get the derp unfiltered and as soon as possible.

2019: real time derp, unfiltered.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 23, 2019, 09:46:33 PM
Look, while the tube station is only a five minute run up the round from where I am, those 5 minutes could be the difference between knowing about the ICBMs and getting underground or getting a better suntan than I ever wanted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 24, 2019, 05:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: nullified on August 21, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 21, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
So, I don't know if anyone else here is following this, but it turns out a Falun Gong media outfit worked to get Trump elected because they believe he has been sent by Heaven to cause the fall of the Communist Regime.

This same network has been fuelling online propaganda for...Qanon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121?fbclid=IwAR2koWWr8vKsF6uREmkID3YDsM-s7OCngZaBbKeuiBRaPEaFdo4OZiuXtGU

This explains a really weird amount of the disproportionate pull QAnon has had.

It does.

It also made at least one researcher, someone who is pretty much an expert in Aum Shinrikyo, freak out.

Because she's been saying for years that Aum didn't start out as a terrorist group. No, they started out as a new age movement with a side in conspiracy theory.

Like the Manson Family?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 26, 2019, 12:31:47 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 23, 2019, 09:46:33 PM
Look, while the tube station is only a five minute run up the round from where I am, those 5 minutes could be the difference between knowing about the ICBMs and getting underground or getting a better suntan than I ever wanted.

Speaking of which...

https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&fbclid=IwAR2y5m0iVXIEqpCIGO6_yc33CzrNup84uWmxL69Q4XFs6LD2-J2DPJkv9_g


QuotePresident Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States, according to sources who have heard the president's private remarks and been briefed on a National Security Council memorandum that recorded those comments.

Behind the scenes: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.

Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."
   
Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall.
   
The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 12:53:57 AM

That's stupid.

Clearly, if the hurricanes are forming in the african coastline, we should destroy the african coastline! That way we'll never have hurricanes. EVER. AGAIN.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2019, 12:58:11 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2019, 12:31:47 AM
Behind the scenes: During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.

From my armchair:

The energy output and scale of a hurricane dwarfs even the biggest bomb.
Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 megatons, and a blast radius of around ~30-60 km.  (Most bombs are rather smaller).
An hurricane can release the equivalent of 13,000 (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/the-13000-megaton-storm/article986153/) megatons per day, and has a diameter anywhere from 150 km to 1000+ km.

And aside from the fact that dumping more energy into a high-energy system doesn't make the energy go away, fallout is a thing.

But you know, "Radioactive Hurricane" might be a good name for a death-metal group.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2019, 01:02:54 AM
I think it would be a better idea to make an anti-hurricane (rotating in the opposite direction), and then ram it into the first hurricane.  You know, so they cancel each other out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 26, 2019, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2019, 01:02:54 AM
I think it would be a better idea to make an anti-hurricane (rotating in the opposite direction), and then ram it into the first hurricane.  You know, so they cancel each other out.

Weirdly enough, from my knowledge of physics this would actually be effective. Granted, the place where the two met would be utterly fucked, but assuming you matched the wind speeds and sizes, then forced them to meet in the ocean, this isn't entirely insane.

"What about making one?" you say. "How on earth could we engineer a macro scale weather system to our particular needs?" And I laugh at you and throw rancid fish.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 01:51:55 AM
Quote from: nullified on August 26, 2019, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2019, 01:02:54 AM
I think it would be a better idea to make an anti-hurricane (rotating in the opposite direction), and then ram it into the first hurricane.  You know, so they cancel each other out.

Weirdly enough, from my knowledge of physics this would actually be effective. Granted, the place where the two met would be utterly fucked, but assuming you matched the wind speeds and sizes, then forced them to meet in the ocean, this isn't entirely insane.

"What about making one?" you say. "How on earth could we engineer a macro scale weather system to our particular needs?" And I laugh at you and throw rancid fish.

Jesse Ventura tried to warn us about HAARP, but we wouln't listen.  :fnord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 26, 2019, 02:56:24 AM
I have bad news.

There is a very good reason to believe that Trump got this idea from the plot of Sharknado. He was lined up to play the President in Sharknado 3, and the plot of Sharknado is literally "throw bombs in the tornado to equalise it out".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 26, 2019, 05:17:37 AM
For fucks sake. At this point I have to start blaming Eris, that would be just too fucking much to pin on anyone else. Even damn stinking apes are more sensible than that. And Eris just loves to fuck with us, so it fits the MO.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 26, 2019, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

I was talking about the Sharknado thing. Radioactive hurricanes sound good now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
https://www.apnews.com/6482bb8522ef427c8dba0d117327f1b2

Annnnnd then the East coast fisheries are fucked.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.

Well, we do have a problem with overpopulation and too much heat down here... how bad could a little bit of nuclear winter really be?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.

Well, we do have a problem with overpopulation and too much heat down here... how bad could a little bit of nuclear winter really be?

Sufficiently cold nuclear winter might even make the people evaporated from the blasts become solid again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.

Well, we do have a problem with overpopulation and too much heat down here... how bad could a little bit of nuclear winter really be?

It's going to get very cold without nukes.

Save them for the Galactic Space Federation assholes.  Fuckin' space hippies.  :crankey:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on August 27, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
https://www.apnews.com/6482bb8522ef427c8dba0d117327f1b2

Annnnnd then the East coast fisheries are fucked.

That seems like it could be good for Lobster populations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstien on August 27, 2019, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.

Well, we do have a problem with overpopulation and too much heat down here... how bad could a little bit of nuclear winter really be?

It's going to get very cold without nukes.

Save them for the Galactic Space Federation assholes.  Fuckin' space hippies.  :crankey:

Not nearly serious enough about a good time here.

The obvious path to maximum fun would be to join. Then bitch about it for a decade or so.

You see where I'm going here, it's a brexit joke and I can't really be fucked to write a good one.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2019, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 27, 2019, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
https://www.apnews.com/6482bb8522ef427c8dba0d117327f1b2

Annnnnd then the East coast fisheries are fucked.

That seems like it could be good for Lobster populations.

The lobster populations are fine.  You can't use catch-all nets on them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2019, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: Junkenstien on August 27, 2019, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 26, 2019, 11:14:52 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on August 26, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 26, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I can't think of anything that could go wrong with a radioactive hurricane.

The current apocalypse scenarios were rather dull. Climate change? A yawn. Iran/Pakistan? Too complicated with difficult names.

However, throw a few nukes at anything and it becomes much more entertaining. Just wait until this is proposed to deal with tsunamis. Or flooding.


Or Mexico.

We can always use nuclear winter to offset the global warming so there's nothing to worry about.

Well, we do have a problem with overpopulation and too much heat down here... how bad could a little bit of nuclear winter really be?

It's going to get very cold without nukes.

Save them for the Galactic Space Federation assholes.  Fuckin' space hippies.  :crankey:

Not nearly serious enough about a good time here.

The obvious path to maximum fun would be to join. Then bitch about it for a decade or so.

You see where I'm going here, it's a brexit joke and I can't really be fucked to write a good one.

That would require allowing Boris Johnson to write again, and I don't think it's worth it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 28, 2019, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
https://www.apnews.com/6482bb8522ef427c8dba0d117327f1b2

Annnnnd then the East coast fisheries are fucked.

I'm surprised that there hasn't been a lot more stuff like this. Between tariffs on our side raising prices and tariffs on China's side reducing business we should already be in a recession
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 28, 2019, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 26, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
https://www.apnews.com/6482bb8522ef427c8dba0d117327f1b2

Annnnnd then the East coast fisheries are fucked.

I'm surprised that there hasn't been a lot more stuff like this. Between tariffs on our side raising prices and tariffs on China's side reducing business we should already be in a recession

There has been.  Our entire farming industry is in the shitter, and aluminum is expensive as hell.  Have you not been paying attention?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 28, 2019, 07:22:32 PM
Its PDS, so the answer is no.

Meanwhile, I have one eye on stocks and one eye on housing, and my eyes actually fucking function, so I'm seeing it in real time. It's mindblowing that the news isn't screaming about it yet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: nullified on August 28, 2019, 07:22:32 PM
Its PDS, so the answer is no.

Meanwhile, I have one eye on stocks and one eye on housing, and my eyes actually fucking function, so I'm seeing it in real time. It's mindblowing that the news isn't screaming about it yet.

I was hollering about this in 2006, for the same reason.  Nobody listened then, either.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 07:30:21 PM
I mean, loads of people HERE listened, but most of them were paying attention themselves ANYWAY.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 28, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
Oh, goodie, so we have two years of continual decline to look forward to until the media catches up with everyone else. Because that recession "officially" didn't start until 2008, you see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 28, 2019, 07:38:41 PM
Kanye West being tone deaf some more.

https://apnews.com/131ea718c5bc457da1e0fdcb4a27db2e
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 30, 2019, 09:45:22 PM
President Trump Tweets Sensitive Surveillance Image of Iran

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/30/755994591/president-trump-tweets-sensitive-surveillance-image-of-iran?

QuotePresident Trump has tweeted what experts say is almost certainly an image from a classified satellite or drone, showing the aftermath of an accident at an Iranian space facility.

"The United States of America was not involved in the catastrophic accident during final launch preparations for the Safir [Space Launch Vehicle] Launch at Semnan Launch Site One in Iran," the president said in a tweet that accompanied the image on Friday. "I wish Iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at Site One."
:lulz:  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 30, 2019, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 30, 2019, 09:45:22 PM
President Trump Tweets Sensitive Surveillance Image of Iran

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/30/755994591/president-trump-tweets-sensitive-surveillance-image-of-iran?

QuotePresident Trump has tweeted what experts say is almost certainly an image from a classified satellite or drone, showing the aftermath of an accident at an Iranian space facility.

"The United States of America was not involved in the catastrophic accident during final launch preparations for the Safir [Space Launch Vehicle] Launch at Semnan Launch Site One in Iran," the president said in a tweet that accompanied the image on Friday. "I wish Iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at Site One."
:lulz:  :horrormirth:

What's really funny is that it is perfectly legal for him to do so.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 30, 2019, 11:07:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised not it's still a hilariously bad idea, no?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 30, 2019, 11:22:16 PM
I can explain that tweet.

He was told in the briefing it would be a very bad idea to claim responsibility for this. Naturally, for Trump, the dumbest man in multiple fields of law, blasting out "I didn't do it" with roughly minus infinity credibility now means everyone assumes he did.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 30, 2019, 11:29:29 PM
Makes sense. Nothing says innocence like "I didn't do it!!!" before anyone says otherwise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 31, 2019, 10:50:23 AM
It also turns out that by using the raw, unfiltered image without going through normal disclosure procedures now means the world is a lot more aware of US spy sattellite capabilities, and indeed how they far outstrip commerical options by comparison.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 31, 2019, 02:36:41 PM
Pretty standard for a fool who is at best dismissive of his own intelligence officials. Even the ones he personally annointed.

I'll have £2.50 on one telling him it was a stupid idea. This will be the person being publicly blamed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 05, 2019, 05:14:32 AM
Man, I bet the qanon translation for trump's Atlanta hurricane sharpie map is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2019, 07:46:48 PM
Tone deaf "diplomacy" on Israel/Palestine is tone deaf.

https://www.apnews.com/cb17a0e7dfd541819e718724a215292e

Also:

The Taliban are getting frisky again in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 05, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Naturally, the US didn't even make a ceasefire with Afghan forces a condition of the peace talks.

That country is being abandoned to the Taliban, because no-one can figure out that a) the Taliban will never be militarily defeated, but b) giving them a great big military beatdown is a great opening position for starting negotiations from. Instead, every single US agency and branch of the army is running their own private war, half of which consider the Taliban irrelevant.  And sure, they'll promise not to host Al-Qaeda again, but in 20 years time, when the IMU decides to blow up a US embassy or kill an ambadssador or something, we can't say that it wasn't obvious that this was going to happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
The National Weather Service has been rolled into the portfolio of the Ministry of Truth:

https://www.apnews.com/e0680f910cdd43e4be257720e182948e
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 08, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 05, 2019, 07:46:48 PM
Tone deaf "diplomacy" on Israel/Palestine is tone deaf.

https://www.apnews.com/cb17a0e7dfd541819e718724a215292e
Kushner's coffee gofer is replacing him. :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 08, 2019, 10:00:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2019, 07:28:10 PM
The National Weather Service has been rolled into the portfolio of the Ministry of Truth:

https://www.apnews.com/e0680f910cdd43e4be257720e182948e
At this point, I think the only thing that's surprising me is exactly which agencies are getting pulled up. It never occurred to me that the NOAA could get yanked up in the mix.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 09, 2019, 06:27:46 PM
US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017 (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html)
QuoteIn a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.

A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.

The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.
The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.

At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or "exfiltration" as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.

A US official said before the secret operation there was media speculation about the existence of such a covert source, and such coverage or public speculation poses risks to the safety of anyone a foreign government suspects may be involved. This official did not identify any public reporting to that effect at the time of this decision and CNN could not find any related reference in media reports.
On the list of things that I believe, Pompeo's comment re" Trump not being the reason ranks somewhere around "Santa Claus is real".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 10, 2019, 12:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 05, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Naturally, the US didn't even make a ceasefire with Afghan forces a condition of the peace talks.

That country is being abandoned to the Taliban, because no-one can figure out that a) the Taliban will never be militarily defeated, but b) giving them a great big military beatdown is a great opening position for starting negotiations from. Instead, every single US agency and branch of the army is running their own private war, half of which consider the Taliban irrelevant.  And sure, they'll promise not to host Al-Qaeda again, but in 20 years time, when the IMU decides to blow up a US embassy or kill an ambadssador or something, we can't say that it wasn't obvious that this was going to happen.

What's the deal with this camp David meeting nonsense? Even by the current standards that sounded monumentally stupid. Lies and poorly thought out pr or actually lost the plot?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2019, 05:19:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 10, 2019, 12:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 05, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Naturally, the US didn't even make a ceasefire with Afghan forces a condition of the peace talks.

That country is being abandoned to the Taliban, because no-one can figure out that a) the Taliban will never be militarily defeated, but b) giving them a great big military beatdown is a great opening position for starting negotiations from. Instead, every single US agency and branch of the army is running their own private war, half of which consider the Taliban irrelevant.  And sure, they'll promise not to host Al-Qaeda again, but in 20 years time, when the IMU decides to blow up a US embassy or kill an ambadssador or something, we can't say that it wasn't obvious that this was going to happen.

What's the deal with this camp David meeting nonsense? Even by the current standards that sounded monumentally stupid. Lies and poorly thought out pr or actually lost the plot?

It was actually going to happen. But the Taliban insisted it happened after the peace deal was announced, and Trump wanted it to happen before (so he could claim credit for hammering out the final details of the deal, most likely). The Taliban said "no, fuck you" and here we are.

So yes, Trump was going to have the Taliban at Camp David, around September 11th.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 10, 2019, 05:24:55 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2019, 05:19:26 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 10, 2019, 12:50:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 05, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
Naturally, the US didn't even make a ceasefire with Afghan forces a condition of the peace talks.

That country is being abandoned to the Taliban, because no-one can figure out that a) the Taliban will never be militarily defeated, but b) giving them a great big military beatdown is a great opening position for starting negotiations from. Instead, every single US agency and branch of the army is running their own private war, half of which consider the Taliban irrelevant.  And sure, they'll promise not to host Al-Qaeda again, but in 20 years time, when the IMU decides to blow up a US embassy or kill an ambadssador or something, we can't say that it wasn't obvious that this was going to happen.

What's the deal with this camp David meeting nonsense? Even by the current standards that sounded monumentally stupid. Lies and poorly thought out pr or actually lost the plot?

It was actually going to happen. But the Taliban insisted it happened after the peace deal was announced, and Trump wanted it to happen before (so he could claim credit for hammering out the final details of the deal, most likely). The Taliban said "no, fuck you" and here we are.

So yes, Trump was going to have the Taliban at Camp David, around September 11th.

Everything's so absurd that they might as well meet up in the Kremlin. Have some drinks and laughs, tell stories and recount memories.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2019, 05:31:20 AM
Already happened

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-russia-talks-russia.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 10, 2019, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2019, 05:31:20 AM
Already happened

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-russia-talks-russia.html

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2019, 05:26:05 PM
Trump just sacked Bolton
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 10, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
What did the mustache do?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
Disagreed with Trump. About what it's not clear, since he disagreed with Trump about almost everything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 10, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
I'd say it's a silver lining, but we all know that the replacement will be (somehow) worse than Bolton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 10, 2019, 07:28:52 PM
He had a spine. That's about all I can say for him and that's not a high bar, but I'm sure his replacement will be a yes man.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
The Moonie Times is suggesting Tulsi Gabbard take his place  :x
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 10, 2019, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: Juana on September 10, 2019, 07:28:52 PM
He had a spine. That's about all I can say for him and that's not a high bar, but I'm sure his replacement will be a yes man.

Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
The Moonie Times is suggesting Tulsi Gabbard take his place  :x

:lulz:

AND JUST LIKE THAT

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 10, 2019, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 10, 2019, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: Juana on September 10, 2019, 07:28:52 PM
He had a spine. That's about all I can say for him and that's not a high bar, but I'm sure his replacement will be a yes man.

Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
The Moonie Times is suggesting Tulsi Gabbard take his place  :x

:lulz:

AND JUST LIKE THAT

:lulz:
WELP
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 11, 2019, 04:42:11 AM
So the question I have now is why Bolton is pushing back so hard against the official line from the White House re how he ended up stepping down. He says he resigned of his own volition and Bolton was apparently texting a Fox host today on air to contradict the story.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 11, 2019, 06:47:48 AM
"He didn't break up with me! I broke up with him!!!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 11, 2019, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Juana on September 11, 2019, 04:42:11 AM
So the question I have now is why Bolton is pushing back so hard against the official line from the White House re how he ended up stepping down. He says he resigned of his own volition and Bolton was apparently texting a Fox host today on air to contradict the story.

Bolton's always been an asshole of epic proportions. Like, I hate the guys guts and would gladly see him get hit by a bus tomorrow, but I wouldn't accuse him of lacking spine.

No doubt he's had his fill of Trump's bullshit, especially given Trump's inclination to ignore him on every issue and mock him about it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 11, 2019, 01:52:18 PM
I am just relieved that Bolton is gone.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 11, 2019, 02:05:23 PM
 :lulz:

https://apnews.com/ac1d72ae8c904d9987ebe4ac5c28e9f9
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 12, 2019, 03:29:27 PM
https://apnews.com/407359c5f3134d62af0ed935d748e59d

Apparently, Nadler is the only dem with balls enough to call an impeachment investigation an impeachment investigation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 12, 2019, 08:27:56 PM
at least one of them isn't pussy footing around it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 12, 2019, 09:11:23 PM
Whoopsie.

https://www.apnews.com/69d55e2262d34f6d8934c10705ab0c59

It's almost as if reducing revenue reduces revenue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 12, 2019, 09:24:22 PM
Who could've predicted?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on September 13, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
Certainly not the guy in charge. He has a proven track record of having zero fucking idea how business works :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 13, 2019, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 13, 2019, 12:07:24 PM
Certainly not the guy in charge. He has a proven track record of having zero fucking idea how business works :lulz:

His followers are a hoot.  There's all these news stories about schools on military bases not being built, etc, due to money being diverted to the wall.

MAGA freaks:  "They're not losing anything.  No programmed money is being affected."

Me:  ""Programmed money" means "money given to contractors like Raytheon".  It also includes the soldier's pay.  However, it does NOT include things like schools, etc, for their children.  Why do you hate our soldiers and their families?"

MF:  "You're an asshole!"

(Actual conversation)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 15, 2019, 07:17:13 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/14/jeremy-corbyn-could-pass-us-intelligence-russia-donald-trump/

:lulz:

Apparently these people don't seem to get that idiot is perfectly capable of passing us intel to Vlad himself, Corbyn not required to pass notes in class.

The main attack line is Corbyn asked for evidence. The bastard.

I'm no big fan but these attacks are ramping up noticeably and it's just a matter of time before the tango tit gets involved.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 15, 2019, 07:55:43 AM
And Trump not only passed on Israeli intelligence to Russia, he was seen as such a significant security threat by the CIA that they pulled a source - with direct access to Vladimir Putin, the kind who could provide transcripts of his meetings - over fears of Trump's unreliability.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 15, 2019, 02:17:00 PM
OMFG... it'll be interesting if they ever get fed up enough with his orangutan shennanigans enough to "fix" the issue. Never thought I'd pine for the days of the old school CIA with their MKULTRA and defenestrations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 16, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 15, 2019, 02:17:00 PM
OMFG... it'll be interesting if they ever get fed up enough with his orangutan shennanigans enough to "fix" the issue. Never thought I'd pine for the days of the old school CIA with their MKULTRA and defenestrations.

Not a Kennedy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 17, 2019, 05:52:31 PM
Good news, everybody! Saudi Arabia pays CASH!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/saudi-arabia-pays-cash-trump-admits-unlike-other-presidents-hell-be-renting-out-us-troops-for-military-action/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2019, 06:23:17 PM
I called it, you know.

The idea of collective security on any arrangement other than a financial one is completely unfathomable to Trump. Everything is a transaction and the terms are always "how much, and in non-sequential bills".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 17, 2019, 07:21:11 PM
Yes. Yes you did.

I believe he more or less explicitly stated durimg his campaign that that would be how he would run a war/conflict.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 17, 2019, 07:35:56 PM
He did, though I also said specifically in the current situation he'd make his actually doing anything conditional on payment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 17, 2019, 10:02:05 PM

Great! Now i can feel like i live in the world of Metal Gear Solid 4
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 17, 2019, 10:54:22 PM
Frankly I don't think we should do anything about the situation in Saudi Arabia at all. According to wikipedia there weren't any fatalities so I don't see a damn reason why the attacks shouldn't be celebrated. Fuck Saudi Arabia and fuck the fossil fuel industry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 18, 2019, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 17, 2019, 10:54:22 PM
Frankly I don't think we should do anything about the situation in Saudi Arabia at all. According to wikipedia there weren't any fatalities so I don't see a damn reason why the attacks shouldn't be celebrated. Fuck Saudi Arabia and fuck the fossil fuel industry.

Well, as long as wikipedia with its independent journalism experience has confirmed it then it must be true!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 18, 2019, 07:22:27 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on September 18, 2019, 05:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 17, 2019, 10:54:22 PM
Frankly I don't think we should do anything about the situation in Saudi Arabia at all. According to wikipedia there weren't any fatalities so I don't see a damn reason why the attacks shouldn't be celebrated. Fuck Saudi Arabia and fuck the fossil fuel industry.

Well, as long as wikipedia with its independent journalism experience has confirmed it then it must be true!

None of the newspaper articles I've seen seem to mention any fatalities either (although I must admit I didn;t read them very thoroughly)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:26:05 AM
Maybe it was Captain Planet?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 17, 2019, 10:54:22 PM
Frankly I don't think we should do anything about the situation in Saudi Arabia at all. According to wikipedia there weren't any fatalities so I don't see a damn reason why the attacks shouldn't be celebrated. Fuck Saudi Arabia and fuck the fossil fuel industry.

And fuck our food prices and fuck everything else.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on September 18, 2019, 07:22:27 AM

None of the newspaper articles I've seen seem to mention any fatalities either (although I must admit I didn;t read them very thoroughly)

Why would you?   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 18, 2019, 03:56:18 PM
It dropped Saudi Arabia's fuel output in half.

Half as much fuel going to China. Half as much going to India and the USA. What's oil used for, again? Oh yeah, everything involving power. Think of the knock-on economic effects. Think how that impinges on employment and unrest.  And that's without the possibility of the idiots known as the Saudi Army starting a shooting war across the Straits of Hormuz and/or in Iraqi territory in addition to the war they're currently waging, and losing, in Yemen.

20% of the world's global oil supply would be halted due to a shooting war. And just imagine what that would do.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:06:13 PM
Total war is the only tech we know about that actually cools down the climate. For the record, I'm all for going over the 1.5 quota, world wars are so 20th century.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 18, 2019, 03:56:18 PM
It dropped Saudi Arabia's fuel output in half.

Half as much fuel going to China. Half as much going to India and the USA. What's oil used for, again? Oh yeah, everything involving power. Think of the knock-on economic effects. Think how that impinges on employment and unrest.  And that's without the possibility of the idiots known as the Saudi Army starting a shooting war across the Straits of Hormuz and/or in Iraqi territory in addition to the war they're currently waging, and losing, in Yemen.

20% of the world's global oil supply would be halted due to a shooting war. And just imagine what that would do.

Shandor thinks that suddenly shutting off fossil fuel availability is a good thing.

Because he is a fucking moron.  Same sort of useless shit that worked at Aerobus plants in Wales and voted Brexit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
Also, place your bets on the O'Brien "spending more time with the family" pool:

https://www.apnews.com/11df7e443937454db9a7103f5ffe84a4
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 18, 2019, 03:56:18 PM
It dropped Saudi Arabia's fuel output in half.

Half as much fuel going to China. Half as much going to India and the USA. What's oil used for, again? Oh yeah, everything involving power. Think of the knock-on economic effects. Think how that impinges on employment and unrest.  And that's without the possibility of the idiots known as the Saudi Army starting a shooting war across the Straits of Hormuz and/or in Iraqi territory in addition to the war they're currently waging, and losing, in Yemen.

20% of the world's global oil supply would be halted due to a shooting war. And just imagine what that would do.
Isn't that like saying reform over revolution?
Shandor thinks that suddenly shutting off fossil fuel availability is a good thing.

Because he is a fucking moron.  Same sort of useless shit that worked at Aerobus plants in Wales and voted Brexit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:20:47 PM

Isn't that like saying reform over revolution?


Which?

Stating that crashing the entire world's economy on the assumption that you can get agriculture going again is somehow superior to just fixing shit?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:20:47 PM

Isn't that like saying reform over revolution?


Which?

Stating that crashing the entire world's economy on the assumption that you can get agriculture going again is somehow superior to just fixing shit?

Wait yea, I got that backwards. Still, one could argue that longer we fix the shit before letting it blow up, the more revolutionary and less reformist things will get. I won't though. Actuall I just might STFU for a week, or for at least until I'm less drunk.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on September 18, 2019, 04:20:47 PM

Isn't that like saying reform over revolution?


Which?

Stating that crashing the entire world's economy on the assumption that you can get agriculture going again is somehow superior to just fixing shit?

Wait yea, I got that backwards. Still, one could argue that longer we fix the shit before letting it blow up, the more revolutionary and less reformist things will get. I won't though. Actuall I just might STFU for a week, or for at least until I'm less drunk.

You are assuming that under the current load, we would recover at all from a blow up.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
It's open bar, boys, and the apocalypse is always on tap.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on September 18, 2019, 06:51:08 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
It's open bar, boys, and the apocalypse is always on tap.

If this isn't stolen, it deserves some sort of holy status. If it is stolen, it probably still deserves holy status but should not be given that status, largely out of spite.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
To be honest, unsure if it was stolen, I mean, if it is stolen, I don't remember stealing it, but I'm typically just typing out my ass, letting my unconscious mind do its thing, so it's entirely possible I saw it somewhere else. My conscious memory fails me when attempting to recall however. I would be flattered if any small piece of drivel to dribble out of this addled mind were to be considered holy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
To be honest, unsure if it was stolen, I mean, if it is stolen, I don't remember stealing it, but I'm typically just typing out my ass, letting my unconscious mind do its thing, so it's entirely possible I saw it somewhere else. My conscious memory fails me when attempting to recall however. I would be flattered if any small piece of drivel to dribble out of this addled mind were to be considered holy.

I have done this in the past, much to my own embarrassment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:11:42 PM
Which, the grease dribbling off of a baking mind, or discordian holy words? The two are not mutually exclusive either, to my understanding.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:14:46 PM
We will either come to remember this as the day and age the great republican vaccination took place, which will have far-reaching beneficial consequences, or we will likely be in a camp somewhere, if we're lucky enough to survive.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:11:42 PM
Which, the grease dribbling off of a baking mind, or discordian holy words? The two are not mutually exclusive either, to my understanding.

Accidentally grabbing someone else's line without realizing it wasn't your line.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Oh yeah, it's the internet, it can be hard to remember whether its your own line or not unless some meme fanatic is around to say oh hey, I remember someone else saying that shit. But eh, intellectual property rights are bullshit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
But eh, intellectual property rights are bullshit.

It's okay to be stupid & wrong.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 18, 2019, 07:26:39 PM
Anyway generally I am stupid and wrong, I apologize for taking up so many posts discussing this. Rock on, and respect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on September 19, 2019, 10:03:22 PM
CNN: Trump revokes waiver for California to set higher auto emissions standards.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/epa-trump-california/index.html
:horrormirth: I've been expecting this because OF COURSE, in his long vendetta against my state and the smash and grab capitalism he's busy aggressively enabling.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 19, 2019, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on September 19, 2019, 10:03:22 PM
CNN: Trump revokes waiver for California to set higher auto emissions standards.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/epa-trump-california/index.html
:horrormirth: I've been expecting this because OF COURSE, in his long vendetta against my state and the smash and grab capitalism he's busy aggressively enabling.

Of course he did.  :crankey:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 19, 2019, 11:02:21 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-carson-reject-californias-request-federal-homelessness/story?id=65699983

Seems like someone's a petty asshole.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 21, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-praises-rollout-pelosi-s-drug-pricing-bill-after-mcconnell-n1056851?cid=referral_taboolafeed

Here there be drama. Can't wait to see these bumbling doofuses snap their own necks doing a quick 180.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on September 21, 2019, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 18, 2019, 07:23:50 PM

It's okay to be stupid & wrong.

:)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2019, 05:08:35 PM
Trump's just making Nazi-esque speeches at the UN again, nothing to see here
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 24, 2019, 11:11:33 PM
Was that before or after he mocked the 12 year old autistic girl?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 12:11:05 AM
Everyone mocks autistic people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 25, 2019, 08:05:47 AM
Yes but he's the president and she had something important to say,  the least he could have done is keep his mouth shut for a few minutes but no,  mocking a child is who the president of the United states is now.
Roll on impeachment
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 25, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 12:11:05 AM
Everyone mocks autistic people.

And almost everyone is also willfully uneducated and ignorant, so what the fuck are we exactly supposed to extrapolate from your statement?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2019, 11:16:24 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 12:11:05 AM
Everyone mocks autistic people.

I don't.

Also, for the record, have never dressed up in blackface, never sexually assaulted a woman, never lied on my tax returns. When people say "everyone does it", it's funny how often I find myself thinking, "well, I have never done that." I'll happily admit people in general are terrible, but it's also possibly the case that they are trying to excuse their actions, just a little bit, through Appeal to Common Practice, a well known logical fallacy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
In other news, the Democrats have finally launched an impeachment inquiriy into Trump's alleged actions regarding Ukraine and Biden.

Using the might of the US government to blackmail foreign leaders to carry out spurious investigations into political opponents might, it turns out, actually be illegal. Who knew?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 25, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 25, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
In other news, the Democrats have finally launched an impeachment inquiriy into Trump's alleged actions regarding Ukraine and Biden.

Using the might of the US government to blackmail foreign leaders to carry out spurious investigations into political opponents might, it turns out, actually be illegal. Who knew?

And basically admitting to it, his twitter is going to get him into jail
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 25, 2019, 01:02:39 PM

In before all of this actually secures his 2nd presidential term somehow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on September 25, 2019, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on September 25, 2019, 01:02:39 PM

In before all of this actually secures his 2nd presidential term somehow.

Id expect it at this rate. The current dem candidates who are likely to end up in debates won't call out the lies and bullshit as effectively as they need to. And it's trivial to do so. I could win a debate against idiot with just a buzzer that makes a family fortunes "wrong" noise. Wouldn't have to say a word. But Warren/biden are going to try and be reasonable and explain things which is just not what this era is about.

Impeachment is almost inevitable to fail which leads to idiot increasing in smugness and no one seems willing to slap it out of him. Short of consistent pies to face or Dennis pennis coming back to life, there's 5 more years of this dickhead to come.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 05:51:11 PM
Text of the phone call embedded in article:

https://www.apnews.com/273e46e2fa324eb9ba5d69ab2a2c69cb
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 12:11:05 AM
Everyone mocks autistic people.

Fuck you, Jack.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 06:17:15 PM
I see Mitt Romney is being just as bold as always.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 06:20:41 PM
9/23, Romney:  WE MUST GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS IMMEDIATELY.

9/25, also Romney:

QuoteUtah Sen. Mitt Romney says that he has read the rough transcript of the call between President Donald Trump and the Ukrainian president and finds it "deeply troubling."

Asked whether what he saw in the rough transcript amounted to direct quid pro quo, Romney said that "if the president of the United States asks or presses the leader of a foreign country to carry out an investigation of a political nature, that's troubling."


:lulz:

He's so squishy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 25, 2019, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?

People have certainly been telling me it is..... for the last 3 years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 09:25:31 PM
I didn't expect to inspire so many responses, so I suppose I should clarify, I've been having issues my whole life, when I was a kid, few knew how to diagnose autism, and indeed, it's actually common for parents to not know they're autistic until their children are diagnosed with it. Now, I am not diagnosed with it, but most of my friends have it and we vibe on a similar wavelength, they insist I have it but I am not a doctor, and I can't very well diagnose myself. My therapist is pretty sure I have it, but to get that diagnosis, I have to wait for the stars to align at exactly the right time and see a specialist who can diagnose adult autism.

That said, conservatives took the poisoned pawn here, there will be delicious fallout in the future.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Chances are republicans are so hesitant to throw trump under the bus because he has all the epstien dirt on them. I mean, they can do it, but that time they slept with a 14 year old girl is going to come back to haunt them. That's literally the only reason I can see for them having their head so far wedged up their own ass it comes out their mouth.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?

Sorry, it is against my religion to tell people they're going to be okay when they're doomed.

There is no good end to this.

"I know the game is rigged, but it's the only game in town."
~ Canada Bill Jones
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Chances are republicans are so hesitant to throw trump under the bus because he has all the epstien dirt on them. I mean, they can do it, but that time they slept with a 14 year old girl is going to come back to haunt them. That's literally the only reason I can see for them having their head so far wedged up their own ass it comes out their mouth.

Balls.  It doesn't require that level of ick, whether or not that level of ick exists.  Trump is simply giving them everything they want and 10% more on top of that.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?

Sorry, it is against my religion to tell people they're going to be okay when they're doomed.

There is no good end to this.

"I know the game is rigged, but it's the only game in town."
~ Canada Bill Jones
Damocles had it easy.
If we can't fix it, is there a way to make it break faster?  This waiting is becoming tedious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 26, 2019, 12:24:52 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 25, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?

Sorry, it is against my religion to tell people they're going to be okay when they're doomed.

There is no good end to this.

"I know the game is rigged, but it's the only game in town."
~ Canada Bill Jones
Damocles had it easy.
If we can't fix it, is there a way to make it break faster?  This waiting is becoming tedious.

This is why I took the job I took in June.

If humans can't behave, they must go down the stairs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
Please stand by the stairs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 26, 2019, 01:21:35 PM

"The year is 2024, the new season of Celebrity Apprentice has opened.

The representatives of all duchies compete for the position of apprentice to God-Emperor Trump, all competing to secure a month's supply of fresh water for their barren wasteland of a territory. They come from a wide variety of fields in the media: lawyers, publicists, reality television, BlackWater, I.C.E. and professional tumbleweed hunters..."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 26, 2019, 06:37:54 PM
So, if somehow Trump and Pence were removed from office, wouldn't Pelosi then become president?

If so, then would she also likely be the Democratic nominee for the 2020 election?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2019, 06:39:49 PM
Yes and possibly, though I dare say she probably has more political clout in continuing as Speaker of the House. Presidents only last 8 years, how long has she been in the House of Representatives now?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 26, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
Since 1987, if Wikipedia can be trusted.

Even if she didn't run in 2020, there will likely be armed protests, rioting in the streets, and right-wing terrorist attacks galore if she personally evicts the two of them, and takes Trump's seat.

Add to that the strong possibility of a recession and possibly a major global financial meltdown, and 2020 would be shaping up to be everything that y2k and 2012 promised and more.

I guess I should get started building my bean fort.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 26, 2019, 07:05:46 PM
I don't think it would be wise for Pelosi to take that job, but rather, nominate someone else. This shit is real and it's happening. It's going to be one hell of a ride, boys and girls, buckle up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 26, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 26, 2019, 07:05:46 PM
I don't think it would be wise for Pelosi to take that job, but rather, nominate someone else. This shit is real and it's happening. It's going to be one hell of a ride, boys and girls, buckle up.

She can't nominate someone to jump the line of succession, it's built into the constitution. She would be abhorrently moronic to run for the seat while holding it in that capacity though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 26, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Yeah, she has a shitload more power where she is right now... and if they did swear her in as president, there would definitely be a bunch of butthurt little boys who would step up their foolishness. The next election seems like it can't come soon enough, but let's give Trump and Pence a few more nails for their coffin, since they're so industrious about it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 26, 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 26, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
Since 1987, if Wikipedia can be trusted.

Even if she didn't run in 2020, there will likely be armed protests, rioting in the streets, and right-wing terrorist attacks galore if she personally evicts the two of them, and takes Trump's seat.


Good.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 26, 2019, 10:56:13 PM
QuoteIn response, Trump threatened "the person" who he said gave information to the whistleblower as he spoke at a private event in New York with staff from the U.S. mission to the United Nations.

"I want to know who's the person, who's the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that's close to a spy," Trump said. "You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

https://www.apnews.com/cce1f1146f924609912a032c61fd067c
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 27, 2019, 02:07:11 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on September 25, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Chances are republicans are so hesitant to throw trump under the bus because he has all the epstien dirt on them. I mean, they can do it, but that time they slept with a 14 year old girl is going to come back to haunt them. That's literally the only reason I can see for them having their head so far wedged up their own ass it comes out their mouth.
&
Quote from: Hoopla! on September 25, 2019, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 25, 2019, 06:36:56 PM
It would be nice if the Republican party realized that they've hitched their wagon to a sinking ship, and that it was time to throw Trump under the bus.

..the ship is sinking like a deck of cards, right? ...right?

People have certainly been telling me it is..... for the last 3 years.

Can't jump ship when you're chained to it.

Quote from: https://www.wired.com/2017/01/russia-hacked-older-republican-emails-fbi-director-says/
FBI director James Comey has now told Congress new details of the Republican prong of those political intrusions, which US intelligence now believe were carried out by the Russian government: The attackers penetrated GOP organizations, and also stole Republican National Committee emails, albeit ones less current than those stolen from the DNC.
Quote from: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russia-hack-u-s-politics-bigger-disclosed-includes-gop-n661866
"They would certainly target Republicans if there is a chance of a Republican becoming president, which obviously there is," Schiff said. "They would also target Republicans that would influence the next president, and they would also target people with the interest in disrupting [the election] or sowing discord."

Quote from: https://www.c-span.org/amp/video/?c4675044&c4675044%2Fdni-official-refuses-senator-graham-conversations-foreign-leaders-monitored
DNI Official Refuses to Tell Senator Graham if His Conversations with Foreign Leaders were Monitored
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 06:53:31 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 26, 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 26, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
Since 1987, if Wikipedia can be trusted.

Even if she didn't run in 2020, there will likely be armed protests, rioting in the streets, and right-wing terrorist attacks galore if she personally evicts the two of them, and takes Trump's seat.


Good.

I'm not seeing a downside here, personally. I'm just saying, you know... bean forts. Get one now while you still can.

Also: JAW HARP.

If I suddenly find myself in the middle of an idiot apocalypse and I'm just standing there with no jawharp to set the mood, I'm gonna feel pretty foolish.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 07:02:10 AM
GET YOUR BODY READY!

DON'T BE CAUGHT UNPREPARED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvFpmE35sg
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 27, 2019, 01:23:24 PM
Haha, this is great, it really IS the apocolypse and we're just trying to treat it like it's business as usual. Yeah, in a few weeks we'll realize it isn't working.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 27, 2019, 03:04:01 PM
Russian heckling:

https://apnews.com/cd2d1f8ba4cb4caeaba690ff87cca225
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 27, 2019, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 27, 2019, 06:53:31 AM
If I suddenly find myself in the middle of an idiot apocalypse

Well...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 06:05:23 PM
Quote from: Hoopla! on September 27, 2019, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 27, 2019, 06:53:31 AM
If I suddenly find myself in the middle of an idiot apocalypse

Well...

I don't think we've reached the middle, yet. Or at least not the part where yahoos are hoot'n and shoot'n in the streets. Thats when the jaw harps should come out, IMHO.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on September 27, 2019, 06:57:11 PM
I always thought it was "jew's harp"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
It goes by many names. I think "jaw harp" is the most common. I'm not sure which came first.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 27, 2019, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: rong on September 27, 2019, 06:57:11 PM
I always thought it was "jew's harp"

It is sometimes called that, but the etymology is sketchy enough that it's best not to.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 07:16:34 PM
According to wikipedia, one of it's many names is "trump".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew%27s_harp#History


I don't even know what to do with that information.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: rong on September 27, 2019, 07:54:40 PM
This is important.

This means something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 27, 2019, 08:27:40 PM
GET THIS TO QANON, STAT!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: hooplala on September 27, 2019, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: rong on September 27, 2019, 06:57:11 PM
I always thought it was "jew's harp"

Big surprise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 27, 2019, 08:44:35 PM
I've seen it called the Jews harp though though I have no idea how to play it, I pulled back the thing and nearly knocked a tooth out
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on September 28, 2019, 12:38:48 AM
Anyone else excited? Pretty sure Biden is on his way out, then we'll be seeing Warren run against Trump. No way in hell Bernie can beat her. Did anyone ring a fuggin' bell? Cuz somebody 'bout to get schooled.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 28, 2019, 07:02:58 AM
Quote from: Faust on September 27, 2019, 08:44:35 PM
I've seen it called the Jews harp though though I have no idea how to play it, I pulled back the thing and nearly knocked a tooth out


I had one maybe 20 years ago, and had the same problem. You gotta hold it just right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2019, 08:29:48 AM
Earlier tonight, the current sitting President of the United States tweeted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178477539653771264

"....If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal." Pastor Robert Jeffress, @FoxNews

(8:11 PM · Sep 29, 2019)

:fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2019, 09:31:34 AM
He's overplaying his hand. The militias actually have something of a complicated view of Trump. The Bundy's, for example, don't like him. Gonna be hard to cause a civil war without an army.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2019, 05:48:30 PM
I think the bump stock ban cost him a lot of his more heavily armed allies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
That too, though interestingly the Bundy's don't like his immigration views (they are, after all, farmers at the end of the day, and do like having foreign labour to do the heavy lifting).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on September 30, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Being interested in firearms, I don't think the bumpstock ban affected anything. No one I have seen has done more than shrug and say "we said they were dangerous and only good for making noise and putting holes in yourself, good riddance".

Militias tend to be even more utility-focused than the circles I pay attention to. They're more likely to do the old charging handle + trigger string trick (evidence can be destroyed swiftly and leave no trace) than to buy a bumpstock if they want not-really-but-sorta automatic fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 30, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
That too, though interestingly the Bundy's don't like his immigration views (they are, after all, farmers at the end of the day, and do like having foreign labour to do the heavy lifting).

It's hard to put together an army of single issue voters who, despite their constant claims of patriotism, ultimately only care for themselves.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2019, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: nullified on September 30, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Being interested in firearms, I don't think the bumpstock ban affected anything. No one I have seen has done more than shrug and say "we said they were dangerous and only good for making noise and putting holes in yourself, good riddance".

Militias tend to be even more utility-focused than the circles I pay attention to. They're more likely to do the old charging handle + trigger string trick (evidence can be destroyed swiftly and leave no trace) than to buy a bumpstock if they want not-really-but-sorta automatic fire.

It was the principle of the matter. For the firearm fetishists, the only good gun law is the one that bans all gun laws.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on September 30, 2019, 09:00:26 PM
https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1178549790847590400?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1178549790847590400?s=19)

Oathkeepers taking Trumps Civil War Tweet seriously. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2019, 10:43:24 PM
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https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1178549790847590400?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Oathkeepers/status/1178549790847590400?s=19)

Oathkeepers taking Trumps Civil War Tweet seriously.
[/quote]

So some cops have to get shot in the back by people who look just like right wingers, I guess.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
"Trade Wars are good, and easy to win."
~ Trump

https://apnews.com/f1d0811ccd4d4a42a2d2efb9bd8c8fce

"U.S. companies added a modest 135,000 jobs in September, a private survey found, a sign that hiring is slowing as the trade war takes a toll on the economy and employers grow cautious."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 03, 2019, 05:17:53 PM
WON'T STOP CAN'T STOP

https://www.apnews.com/c4fc388b22f549e0a67925cab8cd7e93

Quote"China should start an investigation into the Bidens," Trump said in remarks to reporters outside the White House. Trump said he hadn't directly asked Chinese President Xi Jinping to investigate Biden and his son Hunter but said it's "certainly something we could start thinking about."

Trump and personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani have also tried to raise suspicions about Hunter Biden's business dealings in China, leaning on the writings of conservative author Peter Schweizer. But there is no evidence that the former vice president benefited financially from his son's business relationships.

AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN

QuoteThe president's reference to China came unprompted in an unrelated question about the July 25 Ukraine call and moments after he was asked about trade negotiations with China to end a yearlong trade war that has been a drag on both nation's economies.

"I have a lot of options on China, but if they don't do what we want, we have tremendous, tremendous power," Trump said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 03, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
He's degenerating in real-time.

I worked in care, specifically with Alzheimer's patients. I can't say for sure it is Alzheimers, but it's without doubt some form of dementia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 04, 2019, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 03, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
He's degenerating in real-time.

I worked in care, specifically with Alzheimer's patients. I can't say for sure it is Alzheimers, but it's without doubt some form of dementia.

The running theory seems to be frontotemporal dementia...

Tom Joseph on twitter (https://twitter.com/TomJChicago) and his website (https://tomjoseph2.wixsite.com/website) tends to be the predominant source of this theory. Best way to source would be to scroll through some of the rolled up threads and find some dealing with trump's dementia: https://threadreaderapp.com/user/tomjchicago -- he talks about it rather often.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF6GyWBU0AEID6Q.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 04, 2019, 01:15:03 AM

Lee, Bandy X.(2017) "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President

"The New York Times bestseller! More than two dozen psychiatrists and psychologists offer their consensus view that Trump's mental state presents a clear and present danger to our nation and individual well-being.

This is not normal.

Since the start of Donald Trump's presidential run, one question has quietly but urgently permeated the observations of concerned citizens: What is wrong with him? Constrained by the American Psychiatric Association's "Goldwater rule," which inhibits mental health professionals from diagnosing public figures they have not personally examined, many of those qualified to answer this question have shied away from discussing the issue at all. The public has thus been left to wonder whether he is mad, bad, or both.

In THE DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD TRUMP, twenty-seven psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health experts argue that, in Mr. Trump's case, their moral and civic "duty to warn" America supersedes professional neutrality. They then explore Trump's symptoms and potentially relevant diagnoses to find a complex, if also dangerously mad, man.

Philip Zimbardo and Rosemary Sword, for instance, explain Trump's impulsivity in terms of "unbridled and extreme present hedonism." Craig Malkin writes on pathological narcissism and politics as a lethal mix. Gail Sheehy, on a lack of trust that exceeds paranoia. Lance Dodes, on sociopathy. Robert Jay Lifton, on the "malignant normality" that can set in everyday life if psychiatrists do not speak up.

His madness is catching, too. From the trauma people have experienced under the Trump administration to the cult-like characteristics of his followers, he has created unprecedented mental health consequences across our nation and beyond.

It's not all in our heads. It's in his."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 04, 2019, 01:21:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 03, 2019, 05:17:53 PM
WON'T STOP CAN'T STOP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco)

It's our party we can do what we want
It's our party we can say what we want
It's our party we can love who we want

We can kiss who we want
We can see who we want

If you're not ready to go home
Can I get a hell no

'Cause we gonna go all night
'Till we see the sunlight alright
So la da da di we like to party
Dancing with Molly
Doing whatever we want,

This is our house
This is our rules

And we can't stop (whoa)
And we won't stop (whoa)
Can't you see it's we who own the night
Can't you see it we who bout' that life
And we can't stop (whoa)
And we won't stop (whoa)

We run things, things don't run we


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 04, 2019, 08:56:40 AM
This is how they get him, he can't stop doubling down.
Within a walk he will be giving press conferences on the hookers he has buried in the desert.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
Holy fuck. Give this a read everyone

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3wFAt18MQbM-NAqk6SEabaC_iibmx2W7pULMw7ufzcKwRvzp24bViY_oU

"Lets not discuss our criminal conspiracy by text."

"As we discussed illegally in our last phone call we should illegally do the illegal thing."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2019, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 03, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
He's degenerating in real-time.

I worked in care, specifically with Alzheimer's patients. I can't say for sure it is Alzheimers, but it's without doubt some form of dementia.

The running theory seems to be frontotemporal dementia...

Could be. If he suddenly becomes apathetic, then it's very likely. Ultimately FTD blunts all emotional reactions, so if he stops being a rage monster on Twitter, watch out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 04, 2019, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 04, 2019, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 03, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
He's degenerating in real-time.

I worked in care, specifically with Alzheimer's patients. I can't say for sure it is Alzheimers, but it's without doubt some form of dementia.

The running theory seems to be frontotemporal dementia...

Could be. If he suddenly becomes apathetic, then it's very likely. Ultimately FTD blunts all emotional reactions, so if he stops being a rage monster on Twitter, watch out.

Good to know, thanks
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Magpie on October 04, 2019, 01:32:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 04, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
Holy fuck. Give this a read everyone

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a/4/a4a91fab-99cd-4eb9-9c6c-ec1c586494b9/621801458E982E9903839ABC7404A917.chairmen-letter-on-state-departmnent-texts-10-03-19.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3wFAt18MQbM-NAqk6SEabaC_iibmx2W7pULMw7ufzcKwRvzp24bViY_oU

"Lets not discuss our criminal conspiracy by text."

"As we discussed illegally in our last phone call we should illegally do the illegal thing."

Is a bit of subtlety so much to ask?

I would've expected diplomats to be less direct in writing.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2019, 01:51:54 PM
The more circumspect one, Sondland, isn't actually a diplomat by training. He's a Trump megadonor who got parachuted into his job.

Taylor on the other hand is. I'm not sure whether he's trying to get everything on record in order to implicate his bosses (a trick I have done before) or just really dim.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2019, 02:32:08 PM
This is also good.  It describes the convenient timing of the cancellation of defense funds.

https://www.apnews.com/bab6ca5a6f39431ea2fbf98c73107917
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 04, 2019, 03:10:49 PM
Yeah, everything lines up on this. We have Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Giuliani all implicated, the timelines and the communications all reinforce that this was a thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 06, 2019, 07:06:50 PM
The abrupt change in tone and language makes me think a lawyer got involved at the end and was simultaneously shitting themselves and brought to orgasm by the coming billable hours.

So what's likely after the senate kills this? Protests and riots or apathy?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2019, 07:34:32 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on October 06, 2019, 07:06:50 PM
The abrupt change in tone and language makes me think a lawyer got involved at the end and was simultaneously shitting themselves and brought to orgasm by the coming billable hours.

So what's likely after the senate kills this? Protests and riots or apathy?

Yes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2019, 04:11:57 PM
Trump approved genocide, now coming to northern Syria.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2019, 05:21:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2019, 04:11:57 PM
Trump approved genocide, now coming to northern Syria.

Erdogan must have promised to investigate Hunter Biden.

QuoteSunday's announcement followed a call between Trump and Erdogan, the White House said Sunday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
Sadly I suspect it's even worse than that (https://www.trump.com/residential-real-estate-portfolio/trump-towers-istanbul-turkey).

Besides, Trump might not want to talk about criminality and Turkey too loudly, lest people remember his own National Security Adviser was on Turkey's payroll and planning a kidnapping of a US resident.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2019, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
Sadly I suspect it's even worse than that (https://www.trump.com/residential-real-estate-portfolio/trump-towers-istanbul-turkey).

Besides, Trump might not want to talk about criminality and Turkey too loudly, lest people remember his own National Security Adviser was on Turkey's payroll and planning a kidnapping of a US resident.

Sweet Jesus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Everyone always forgets about Mikey Flynn. I don't forget.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2019, 09:55:02 PM
Quote of the day

Quote"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey," he tweeted.

https://www.apnews.com/ac3115b4eb564288a03a5b8be868d2e5
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 08, 2019, 06:45:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2019, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 07, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
Sadly I suspect it's even worse than that (https://www.trump.com/residential-real-estate-portfolio/trump-towers-istanbul-turkey).

Besides, Trump might not want to talk about criminality and Turkey too loudly, lest people remember his own National Security Adviser was on Turkey's payroll and planning a kidnapping of a US resident.

Sweet Jesus.

On this basis, I'm expecting the diplomats wife returned for planning permissions. Though you could probably get away with a sack of sand with dollar signs on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2019, 03:10:30 PM
GOP ignoring subpoenas and once again getting away with it.

https://www.apnews.com/afe01764208b4eefabb2255fb6a45653
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 08, 2019, 04:35:12 PM
So I know actual courts can find you in contempt if you pull stuff like this and fine you or throw you in jail.

What can Congress do?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2019, 04:50:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 08, 2019, 04:35:12 PM
So I know actual courts can find you in contempt if you pull stuff like this and fine you or throw you in jail.

What can Congress do?

Same thing.  They just lack the intestinal fortitude to do it.

If I were in Pelosi's shoes, Pompeo would be arrested the moment he stepped back onto American soil.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 08, 2019, 05:08:29 PM
Ah I see, the procedural mechanisms presuppose the possibility of a working spine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
As far as I know, Congress doesn't have an enforcement arm and needs to go through the FBI (which is silly for this exact reason).

It may not be the FBI, but if it's not it's like the US Marshalls or some other exec-branch group. Congress does not, as far as I know, have their own cops to arrest people with.

Now comes the trick: because of the above, Congress can only politely request that law enforcement do something. The president can order.

I have come around a bit on terms of enforcing punishments for ignoring subpoenas for this reason. It gets you nothing extra and gives the president even greater leverage over you. When the president is a shit-clotted hybrid of a weasel and a brain dead orangutan, you're better off keeping it for later, lest he realize that he has effectively absolute power to kill the entire process.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 08, 2019, 06:37:10 PM
So could Trump order Pelosi and Schiff to be arrested, then?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 08, 2019, 06:38:38 PM
Technically, yeah. It's the stupid thing about all of this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Quote from: nullified on October 08, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
As far as I know, Congress doesn't have an enforcement arm and needs to go through the FBI (which is silly for this exact reason).

It may not be the FBI, but if it's not it's like the US Marshalls or some other exec-branch group. Congress does not, as far as I know, have their own cops to arrest people with.

Now comes the trick: because of the above, Congress can only politely request that law enforcement do something. The president can order.

I have come around a bit on terms of enforcing punishments for ignoring subpoenas for this reason. It gets you nothing extra and gives the president even greater leverage over you. When the president is a shit-clotted hybrid of a weasel and a brain dead orangutan, you're better off keeping it for later, lest he realize that he has effectively absolute power to kill the entire process.

The sergeant at arms has arrest authority that is strictly limited to contempt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on October 09, 2019, 03:04:53 AM
Quote from: nullified on October 08, 2019, 06:38:38 PM
Technically, yeah. It's the stupid thing about all of this.

Wouldn't he need a warrant?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 09, 2019, 05:12:58 AM
That's the "technical" part. He's in charge. I would need to refresh myself to be 100% again on this, but I'm about 85% sure which, given my tendency to lowball my certainty as a general rule, is pretty damn certain.

As the lawful leader of the executive branch, he can tell executive branch employees Do This Thing and it is in fact an actual order to do it.

The brakes on this are normally impeachment and charges against the people who carry out the unlawful orders. Impeachment is already on the table, so we can forget that, and Barr has his head so far up Trump's ass he's using his spleen for a backup brain stem, so charges brought by the DOJ can be ignored. Functionally speaking, for a man as egotistical and idiotic as Trump, there is nothing keeping him from just repeating the orders until someone does them, then telling Barr it's all fine, it's fine, they're traitors anyway, don't charge my very special friends.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
And Trump's ass kissing drops all over Syria.

https://www.apnews.com/5bf8e9bfa25c45ef9d4dfcef352e26a3

It's pretty ugly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
They're shelling and bombing civilian areas indiscriminately. Their plans for northern Syria require wholesale ethnic cleansing, so this is their way of going about it. Civilians are fleeing in large numbers, and there are rumours that the YPG is already staging counter-attacks.

This is going to be a slaughter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 09, 2019, 04:56:46 PM
Last year, Samantha Bee went to Kurdistan and talked to the people there.  They all loved Trump, because "he's paying attention to us!"

I don't think there will be anyone left to do a follow-up interview on that point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
I can tell you that a LOT of people associated with the YPG have never shared that viewpoint. They knew this knife in the back was coming...there wasnt much they could do, but it had been anticipated for a while now.

Of course, the YPG are also Marxist atheists, so...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on October 09, 2019, 05:55:52 PM
How high is the possibility for ISIS getting another chance of doing terrible things to masses of people?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
They are doing it right now. Who do you think Turkey is recruiting into their local militias?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 09, 2019, 06:46:42 PM
So what happens to Lisa Smith and the other prisoners who Ireland and the UK were talking about revoking citizinship of, who currently has custody of them?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 07:06:54 PM
Well, that's where it gets really fun. Because the YPG and SDF don't have the manpower to both run prisoner of war camps and fight Turkey. Now don't get me wrong, the Kurds can still be pretty nasty by Geneva conventions standards, but they're not the "lets slit the throats of unarmed prisoners before we march to war" kind of brutal.

So they're essentially abandoning the camps. Leaving a token force to keep order. There will be escapes, and riots, and the Turks will likely target them to conscript the prisoners into their sham "Free Syrian Army."

But that's all OK, because ISIS has been defeated. Trump said so. And it's not like ISIS had an infamous jailbreak campaign in 2012 that helped them rebuild (http://www.understandingwar.org/report/al-qaeda-iraq-resurgent) or anything...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 09, 2019, 07:51:11 PM
I thought it had gotten too quiet are we over a year since the last ISIS stabbing, lorry etc. Its very hard to hold them up as a specter to spook the public with if they are too weak to do that.
Not that I think that is trumps intention or anything, I think its discourteous to assume he thinks beyond the next five minutes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 09, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
Jesus that didn't take long:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/women-and-children-expected-to-break-out-from-al-hawl-camp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2019, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
Jesus that didn't take long:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/women-and-children-expected-to-break-out-from-al-hawl-camp

Cain hit the nail right on the head in this one.

This fucking thing is on rails.  This is the century of shame & failure.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
I am thinking Erdogan thinks of himself as the next Mustafa.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 09:20:00 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
Jesus that didn't take long:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/women-and-children-expected-to-break-out-from-al-hawl-camp

There's been problems there for weeks. It was definitely on my list as a top candidate for a prison break.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2019, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 09, 2019, 09:20:00 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 09, 2019, 07:58:39 PM
Jesus that didn't take long:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/women-and-children-expected-to-break-out-from-al-hawl-camp

There's been problems there for weeks. It was definitely on my list as a top candidate for a prison break.

The description of that camp reads like the worst parts of Dante.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2019, 11:28:41 PM
It wouldn't be my first choice for a holiday destination, no. The Kurds are doing what they can, but with only so much money to go around...it's very limited. That's always been the problem for the SDF.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 11, 2019, 02:09:11 AM
I'm seeing a lot of anti-SDF sentiment from communist sources. I'm hella confused by all that. I know that they were working with the US, but they were also working with the SAA, selling oil to Syria, Israel, Saudi--pretty much anyone who would buy it (help finance them). I don't really get what the hard-on is for.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 11, 2019, 02:49:15 AM
Are these the kind of communists who think that working against the USA = anti-imperialist?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 11, 2019, 03:59:40 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 11, 2019, 02:49:15 AM
Are these the kind of communists who think that working against the USA = anti-imperialist?

100%.

One dude literally wrote, "The Turkish Government and the YPG/SDF are both part of NATO."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 11, 2019, 04:59:42 PM
Oh dear. Well, that explains a lot. In my experience, most of these kinds of Communists think Assad is some kind of plucky underdog, rather than, you know, a dictator who inherited his rule from Daddy and decided torturing a bunch of kids to death and dropping their corpses off in the town square was the best way to deal with peaceful protests against his rule.

These same people tend to accuse everyone of opposing Assad of working with Al-Qaeda, ISIS, or both. Rather than, you know, Turkey, who was letting ISIS enter troop formations into their territory to wipe out the YPG on the border and buying ISIS oil.

Like, there are valid criticisms from the left to be made of the YPG. The way Arabs seem locked out of the political process and generally discriminated against, for one (though even these Arabs will concede the YPG are much better than Assad or the militias). There is torture going on, there are summary executions at times, the YPG definitely do not adhere to the Geneva Conventions, though their crimes are much closer to western norms than other actors in the region (less chemical weapons, suicide attacks and carpet bombing, more "we killed a bunch of people on dodgy intel or to send a message not to fuck with us"). 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2019, 06:11:40 PM
I am beginning to think the ONLY politician that can be trusted is Toyama Koichi.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2019, 09:06:25 PM
How does the underside of that bus look, Rudy?  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/bd7b2b04b101440e9a5559b9501e24b4

Quote"I don't know those gentlemen," said Trump, speaking on the South Lawn of the White House. "Now it's possible that I have a picture with them, because I have a picture with everybody...I don't know them. I don't know about them. I don't know what they do. ... Maybe they were clients of Rudy. You have to ask Rudy."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 11, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Also, more racist jabber from the Combover Caligula.

https://www.apnews.com/968b42f83fc743258d8caadecf2b6258
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2019, 03:07:38 AM
ISIS tried to breach a second prison under SDF control using a car bomb. As you can see, it failed, but they won't always fuck it up.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGorphlXkAECSSK?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2019, 05:58:42 AM
Turkey is also deliberately targeting American troops now. Specifically, American troops in Kobane are under artillery fire and the Pentagon has confirmed that it notified the Turkish military of their position.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Magpie on October 12, 2019, 10:45:14 AM
What's the point in attacking American troops? They've already been ordered to withdraw, or is this just to make them pull back further so even if Trump changes his mind there will be a longer response time?

Turkey is of course claiming that they didn't target the Americans and that their only targeting the YPG, not the Kurds themselves, not like being Kurdish was illegal in Turkey in living memory or anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 12, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: Magpie on October 12, 2019, 10:45:14 AM
What's the point in attacking American troops?

Because why not?  Erdogan knows there will be no penalty for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 12, 2019, 04:36:38 PM
Quote from: Magpie on October 12, 2019, 10:45:14 AM
What's the point in attacking American troops?

1. To drive them out faster.
2. To ensure there are no international witnesses to the war crimes they are about to commit.
3. To show Trump who is in charge here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 12, 2019, 06:29:39 PM
I knew this would get Americans killed. I assumed it would be less direct and immediate, because I guess I'm still a fuckin optimist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 14, 2019, 10:22:34 PM
So this is going to be a full-out regional conflict.

https://www.apnews.com/a7033640aad04506b2e8aa139d9edabe
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 14, 2019, 10:25:18 PM
In other Trump news, he is about to get skinned by the Chinese.

https://www.apnews.com/c2b8338d087a4d4898d8ac0c12992971
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 14, 2019, 11:55:35 PM
It's only becoming more delicious by the moment. I predicted he would be an innoculation, it's going to be a damn shame if he isn't.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2019, 12:38:26 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on October 14, 2019, 11:55:35 PM
It's only becoming more delicious by the moment. I predicted he would be an innoculation, it's going to be a damn shame if he isn't.

What?  :?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 15, 2019, 05:17:46 AM
This is beginning to look more and more like an Iraq/Kuwait situation. Erdogan gets the "sure, no problem" from the US, then he moves, and everybody loses their shit because the completely predictable thing happened.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 15, 2019, 05:50:06 AM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 15, 2019, 05:17:46 AM
This is beginning to look more and more like an Iraq/Kuwait situation. Erdogan gets the "sure, no problem" from the US, then he moves, and everybody loses their shit because the completely predictable thing happened.

Yeah, only in this case the role of April Glaspie is being played by Donald Trump
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 15, 2019, 08:16:12 AM
Pompeo had an interview with one of our local reporters in Nashville.

I think one thing that is interesting to note is his long-ass tie.

https://www.wsmv.com/raw-mike-pompeo-interviewed-by-news-s-nancy-amons-in/video_d1df6c1a-e2f7-5a3d-87ab-967d824fdadd.html?fbclid=IwAR390EgW5XNDgnn0HWoE8YTyazfgWNe751gj2wE3yuihCkeYT73j-DC010U
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
AND THEN AND THEN AND THEN

https://www.apnews.com/8c74656b36384df5bd8fd5084b72c933
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 15, 2019, 03:09:33 PM
Meanwhile, it turns out John Bolton did have a role to play in Ukrainegate. John Bolton instructed Fiona Hill to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council that Rudy Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney on a rogue operation with legal implications, Hill told the investigators.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/us/politics/bolton-giuliani-fiona-hill-testimony.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2019, 07:31:56 PM
It is worth mentioning that this is likely to turn into the very last mechanized war (in the 1990s sense of the term), if the Syrians go at it with the Turks.

https://www.apnews.com/8c74656b36384df5bd8fd5084b72c933

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 16, 2019, 10:17:13 PM
AG Bill Barr: Non-religious people are responsible for 'senseless violence and drug overdoses' (https://deadstate.org/ag-bill-barr-non-religious-people-are-responsible-for-senseless-violence-and-drug-overdoses)

:dream:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 16, 2019, 10:58:40 PM
To be fair, he's absolutely right. Why, I've overdosed 30 times just today and have a body count in the low thousands.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 16, 2019, 11:09:14 PM
I pray morning and night and chew pure fentanyl tablets and don't even get so much as a disturbed heart rate, thank you Jesus for protecting me from overdoses.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 16, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
I've had some bad breakups. Sent some regrettable messages. Like this one time, I got so upset over a woman I wrote her a weird letter saying "Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool." I'm just....so fucking ashamed of myself.

I hope this is the right thread for these sorts of heartfelt confessions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 17, 2019, 09:30:19 AM
Quote from: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on October 16, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
I've had some bad breakups. Sent some regrettable messages. Like this one time, I got so upset over a woman I wrote her a weird letter saying "Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool." I'm just....so fucking ashamed of myself.

I hope this is the right thread for these sorts of heartfelt confessions.

Trump "negotiates" like a Nigerian prince, or maybe a 6th grader.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/read-trumps-full-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-tough-guy-dont-be-a-fool
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 17, 2019, 09:35:09 AM
That's the kind of rhetoric that might work with Edrogan, what would have been better is not giving him licence to do this last week and then backpeddling when its too late.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 17, 2019, 09:46:17 AM
I can only imagine his letters to Putin look something like this:



Do you like me?

[ ] Yes.
[ ] No.

(Please check one.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 17, 2019, 12:47:47 PM

It's a nice touch how the signature -apparently done with a huge permanent marker- is almost as big as the content of the letter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 17, 2019, 02:27:40 PM
I wonder, is  it the same marker from sharpiegate?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2019, 09:16:51 PM
And we have a confession:

https://www.apnews.com/96e324358e02441f8116fd1a5ad57132

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The White House acknowledged Thursday that it held up military aid to Ukraine as President Donald Trump pushed the country's new leader to investigate the Democratic National Committee in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign, a central question in the House impeachment inquiry .

Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said that Trump did nothing wrong in linking the aid to Ukraine's investigation. He said the probe would simply be part of the Justice Department's ongoing review of the 2016 election.

House Democrats, who are investigating whether the president engaged in a political quid pro quo when he asked the new Ukraine president to do a "favor," immediately called it an admission of guilt.

Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee leading the impeachment probe told reporters: "I think Mr. Mulvaney's acknowledgment means that things have gone from very, very bad to much, much worse."

It is illegal to solicit or receive anything of value from a foreign entity in U.S. elections.

The administration insists it held up military assistance to Ukraine in part because they wanted Ukraine's cooperation in investigating whether Democratic National Committee's email servers were in Ukraine.

They also were looking at levels of assistance European nations were providing to Ukraine, he said.

Mulvaney denies there was a quid pro quo and says "we do that all the time with foreign policy."

So that quid pro quo wasn't a quid pro quo.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2019, 10:35:50 PM
So Pence got Erdogan to agree to a cease fire with the Kurds & Syrians.

All that this requires is that the Kurds and Syrians give Erdogan all that land and fuck off.

Basically, what Erdogan wanted, only not having to fight for it.  I am sure that Assad and the Kurds will jump all over this.  :lulz:

ETA:  The Kurds are on board, so long as nobody expects them to leave.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/c27ec5d2fa3b4954a65bc359f497a22a
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2019, 10:37:43 PM
Also this.

https://www.apnews.com/3c58409d63094e32b44794981a3a407c

Which isn't at all CROOKED AS FUCK.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2019, 10:43:52 PM
ANNND MULVANEY IS UNDER THE BUS.

https://www.apnews.com/35cfc12c24494af3a6f0298f4c8fd791

What a day.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 17, 2019, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 17, 2019, 10:37:43 PM
Also this.

https://www.apnews.com/3c58409d63094e32b44794981a3a407c

Which isn't at all CROOKED AS FUCK.

If he is impeached before that it is going to be really awkward.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 18, 2019, 12:30:02 AM
Awkward? Hilarious, you mean?

"Impeached Former US President Causes Diplomatic Incident At G-7, Insults World Leaders"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 18, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7587357/Distressing-footage-emerges-children-chemical-burns-Syria.html

Turkey would never have had the balls to do this without the pricks approval. Forget the impeachment, I hope the miserable old fuck dies of stroke. America and the world deserves better.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 18, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7587357/Distressing-footage-emerges-children-chemical-burns-Syria.html

Turkey would never have had the balls to do this without the pricks approval. Forget the impeachment, I hope the miserable old fuck dies of stroke. America and the world deserves better.

While I don't put it past Erdogan, I will be waiting for a better source.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 06:16:27 PM
So this cease fire doesn't seem to involve people actually not shooting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 18, 2019, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 18, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7587357/Distressing-footage-emerges-children-chemical-burns-Syria.html

Turkey would never have had the balls to do this without the pricks approval. Forget the impeachment, I hope the miserable old fuck dies of stroke. America and the world deserves better.

While I don't put it past Erdogan, I will be waiting for a better source.

Yeah sorry about the daily mail but I'm not seeing much other coverage. Best I can hope for it's a faked sob fluff piece.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 18, 2019, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 18, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7587357/Distressing-footage-emerges-children-chemical-burns-Syria.html

Turkey would never have had the balls to do this without the pricks approval. Forget the impeachment, I hope the miserable old fuck dies of stroke. America and the world deserves better.

While I don't put it past Erdogan, I will be waiting for a better source.

Yeah sorry about the daily mail but I'm not seeing much other coverage. Best I can hope for it's a faked sob fluff piece.

It is also worth mentioning that the first pic, if that were napalm or white phosphorus, that extent of burns would most likely also have caused internal burning of the respiratory system and the kid would not be conscious. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 08:03:26 PM
Those burns are also consistent with flash burns from artillery shells.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 08:05:40 PM
Also, the last actual conservative is calling for Trump's impeachment.

https://www.apnews.com/0a2326173c884c8fb8124a4e204b632b
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 18, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
And defections are beginning.

https://apnews.com/0a81feef4dd74bf0a746c9245136b229

Probably not enough, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2019, 05:54:11 AM
And Faust, I was wrong.

https://www.newsweek.com/turkey-accused-war-crimes-suspected-white-phosphorous-chemical-weapons-use-against-kurds-syria-1466248

I am a little shocked that the kid survived, though.  His lungs should be string cheese.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 19, 2019, 09:40:11 AM
From some of the reports, Turkey has been giving the white phosphorous to its proxy forces, the so-called "Turkish Free Syrian Army". Perhaps improper handling?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 19, 2019, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 19, 2019, 09:40:11 AM
From some of the reports, Turkey has been giving the white phosphorous to its proxy forces, the so-called "Turkish Free Syrian Army". Perhaps improper handling?

Could also be that the kid just got lucky.  Strong wind, maybe.  Blows it over and past the kid in a flash, he doesn't manage to inhale any.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 02:44:19 PM
Making friends world-wide.

https://www.apnews.com/1f13bf4d38c340499cbc48abdca144eb
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Looks like Canada is about to elect their own nationalist idiot Trump clone.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/canada-election-results-live-exit-polls-close-trudeau-scheer-vote-candidates-latest-updates-a9165086.html

QuoteDuring a campaign rally in Ontario over the weekend, Andrew Scheer promised the crowd he would "hold a judicial inquiry into his scandal to get to the bottom of what he's done" if he is elected, referring to the SNC-Lavalin case that has clouded Trudeau's presidency. In response to the pledge, the audience chanted "Lock him up! Lock him up!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 07:58:19 PM
Nobody seems to know what Trump was talking about.

https://apnews.com/98cb4ab6e6dd4c4c934d5727741ff64b

Quote"We've had tremendous success I think over the last couple of days," Trump declared Friday. He added that "we've taken control of the oil in the Middle East" -- a claim that seemed disconnected from any known development there.

He made the assertion twice Friday, but other U.S. officials were unable to explain what he meant.

He means his boss, Putin, has taken control of the oil.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2019, 08:05:20 PM
There was a proposal about having US troops provide security at oil fields in eastern Syria.

You know, the ones that were previously being guarded by Syrian Kurds. Who then left to fight Turkey.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 08:44:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2019, 08:05:20 PM
There was a proposal about having US troops provide security at oil fields in eastern Syria.

You know, the ones that were previously being guarded by Syrian Kurds. Who then left to fight Turkey.

Apparently that is in fact happening.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
So, these are the same troops Trump is "bringing home", right?

Who knew so many US soldiers came from eastern Syria and western Iraq?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2019, 08:50:29 PM
So, these are the same troops Trump is "bringing home", right?

Who knew so many US soldiers came from eastern Syria and western Iraq?

They are still on Northern Syria, way the fuck up by Turkey, with people blocking them in towns and throwing potatoes at them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 08:54:59 PM
Also, the tone of the protests seems to be "We love the US, but Trump betrayed us." 

Poor naive fools.  Trump IS America.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 09:06:22 PM
Taylor testifying.

https://www.apnews.com/76cf13f7c6874fe1a08a2f7f848903ee

QuoteIn texts a week later to Sondland and special envoy Kurt Volker, Taylor expressed increased alarm, calling it "crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

He said not giving the military aid to Ukraine would be his "nightmare" scenario because it sends the wrong message to both Kyiv and Moscow. "The Russians love it. (And I quit)."

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 09:16:19 PM


QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump lashed out Monday at critics who prompted him to move next year's Group of Seven summit from his private golf club in Florida, claiming he would have hosted it for free and now it will end up costing taxpayers "a fortune."

Speaking at a Cabinet meeting, Trump said it would have been the greatest G-7 ever if held at his Doral resort outside Miami, but "Democrats went crazy" with criticisms that he would have violated the "phony" emoluments clause in the Constitution banning presidents from receiving gifts from foreign countries.

Bolding mine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 21, 2019, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Looks like Canada is about to elect their own nationalist idiot Trump clone.


I dunno.  Many of the Conservative party's supporters are clones of Trump supporters, but Scheer himself seems like a fairly standard right-wing type (anti-abortion, closet homophobe), and he has a fair way to fall to reach Trump's level of stupidity.  He doesn't strike me as particularly nationalistic; one Conservative (Maxime Bernier) actually broke away from the party because it was insufficiently anti-immigration.  (Bernier's platform's primary distinguishing feature is reducing the number of immigrants).

The SNC-Lavalin affair was a major screwup on Trudeau's part, and I dislike the man personally, but I do prefer him over Scheer as the next P.M. (on a policy level, anyway).  I'm hoping we get a minority Liberal government.  It gives Trudeau a nice sharp slap in the face, but doesn't hand power over to the Conservatives, and forces the parties to co-operate to get anything done.  (The Canadian system has devolved, in recent decades, to something like a term dictatorship.)

Edit:  I voted NDP.  I usually do.  They don't have a snowflake's chance in hell in my riding, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on October 21, 2019, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Looks like Canada is about to elect their own nationalist idiot Trump clone.


I dunno.  Many of the Conservative party's supporters are clones of Trump supporters, but Scheer himself seems like a fairly standard right-wing type (anti-abortion, closet homophobe), and he has a fair way to fall to reach Trump's level of stupidity.  He doesn't strike me as particularly nationalistic; one Conservative (Maxime Bernier) actually broke away from the party because it was insufficiently anti-immigration.  (Bernier's platform's primary distinguishing feature is reducing the number of immigrants).

The SNC-Lavalin affair was a major screwup on Trudeau's part, and I dislike the man personally, but I do prefer him over Scheer as the next P.M. (on a policy level, anyway).  I'm hoping we get a minority Liberal government.  It gives Trudeau a nice sharp slap in the face, but doesn't hand power over to the Conservatives, and forces the parties to co-operate to get anything done.  (The Canadian system has devolved, in recent decades, to something like a term dictatorship.)

Edit:  I voted NDP.  I usually do.  They don't have a snowflake's chance in hell in my riding, though.

Once you get to that chanting stage, it's all over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 22, 2019, 01:00:07 AM
Is it that moment you realize you're attending a professional wrestling match?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 05:03:04 PM
https://www.apnews.com/a089ddade65f42978c45147aa4ec2dca

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans have disrupted a closed-door deposition with a Defense Department official who was scheduled to answer questions as part of the House impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

Laura Cooper, a senior official who oversees Ukraine policy, arrived Wednesday morning on Capitol Hill to appear before the House panels conducting the investigation. Shortly afterward, more than two dozen Republican House members held a news conference outside the secure room in the Capitol where the deposition was taking place.

The Republicans decried that the deposition was happening behind closed doors and said Americans should be able to read the transcripts of any interviews being conducted as part of impeachment.

Republicans then walked into the meeting unannounced, and the deposition was put on hold. The two sides were trying to resolve the standoff, Republicans who left the meeting said.

Cooper's testimony comes a day after a top U.S. diplomat testified that he was told Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine until the country's president went public with a promise to investigate Democrats.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 23, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
It's not like SCIFs are priority targets for foreign intelligence services because they detail sources and methods to Congress, or that cellphones can be remotely turned into microphones or that the US intelligence agencies know this and HAVE A BIG FUCKING DUDE POSTED OUTSIDE THE DOOR TO TAKE YOUR PHONES FROM YOU or anything.

Endangering US intelligence operations to own the libs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 06:35:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 23, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
It's not like SCIFs are priority targets for foreign intelligence services because they detail sources and methods to Congress, or that cellphones can be remotely turned into microphones or that the US intelligence agencies know this and HAVE A BIG FUCKING DUDE POSTED OUTSIDE THE DOOR TO TAKE YOUR PHONES FROM YOU or anything.

Endangering US intelligence operations to own the libs.

Why the fuck do we even have a sergeant at arms?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 07:21:22 PM
And then this happened:

https://www.apnews.com/b048901b635f423db49a10046daaf8a8

QuoteKYIV, Ukraine (AP) — More than two months before the phone call that launched the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, Ukraine's newly elected leader was already worried about pressure from the U.S. president to investigate his Democratic rival Joe Biden.

Volodymyr Zelenskiy gathered a small group of advisers on May 7 in Kyiv for a meeting that was supposed to be about his nation's energy needs. Instead, the group spent most of the three-hour discussion talking about how to navigate the insistence from Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, for a probe and how to avoid becoming entangled in the American elections, according to three people familiar with the details of the meeting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 23, 2019, 07:30:01 PM

Hey, as long as the self-named "world police" has the moral/ethical highground, everything will be fine. Right? Right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on October 23, 2019, 07:30:01 PM

Hey, as long as the self-named "world police" has the moral/ethical highground, everything will be fine. Right? Right?

No, not really.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 23, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
It's not like SCIFs are priority targets for foreign intelligence services because they detail sources and methods to Congress, or that cellphones can be remotely turned into microphones or that the US intelligence agencies know this and HAVE A BIG FUCKING DUDE POSTED OUTSIDE THE DOOR TO TAKE YOUR PHONES FROM YOU or anything.

Endangering US intelligence operations to own the libs.

Surprise, surprise.  This was organized by Jim Jordan and Mark Walker.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 09:43:28 PM
It's getting a little crowded under the bus.   :lulz:

https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/trump-mcconnell-said-ukraine-call-was-innocent-mcconnell-no-i-didn-t-71871045628
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2019, 10:21:32 PM
So does this look like it is actually building up to something like impeachment now, or are there too many smoking guns and too many crime scenes to link one to the other.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 23, 2019, 10:41:54 PM
I doubt it's impeachment now, but it's for the exact opposite reason you cited: it's so easy to link the president to the crime that there's one part disbelief, one part stubborn denial of reality just to give themselves a mental landing strip.

Disbelief because how the FUCK did it take this long to find this shit out if it was actually bad, of course. It was done practically in the open, free and clear, with receipts, notice the people involved knew they were doing bad, not even a token attempt at a proper coverup. (Closest thing was saying State Dept employees weren't allowed to testify. Which it was already too late for, we had the text messages.)

It's so indefensible (in the sense that there is literally no way to defend it) that the Republicans have to either give up on political aspirations, or deny it ever happened and make the whole thing out to be a giant, ridiculous, infeasible hoax.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:08:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 23, 2019, 10:21:32 PM
So does this look like it is actually building up to something like impeachment now, or are there too many smoking guns and too many crime scenes to link one to the other.

My guess is the house republicans will screech and pull more stunts and the senate will quietly convict him, as Pence will also give them everything they like, but without the hysterics.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: nullified on October 23, 2019, 10:41:54 PM
I doubt it's impeachment now, but it's for the exact opposite reason you cited: it's so easy to link the president to the crime that there's one part disbelief, one part stubborn denial of reality just to give themselves a mental landing strip.

Disbelief because how the FUCK did it take this long to find this shit out if it was actually bad, of course. It was done practically in the open, free and clear, with receipts, notice the people involved knew they were doing bad, not even a token attempt at a proper coverup. (Closest thing was saying State Dept employees weren't allowed to testify. Which it was already too late for, we had the text messages.)

It's so indefensible (in the sense that there is literally no way to defend it) that the Republicans have to either give up on political aspirations, or deny it ever happened and make the whole thing out to be a giant, ridiculous, infeasible hoax.

Someone posted way back in this thread a link to a lady who had survived one fascist state or another, and her first rule is "listen to what they say they are going to do, and believe that they will do it."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Posting the obvious here, to bookmark it for FB when I get home.

https://www.apnews.com/1a53b13c1d8d4a4d9ef0ffe8d5ffff38
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:20:08 PM
And then THESE two particular suckers thought Trump would stick his neck out for them.  :lulz:

https://www.apnews.com/4326d1ba6a8f4b70abf560cbe30eaa04
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:21:21 PM
Also for FB use:

https://www.apnews.com/9cd7dfdfbff34a21a478629ba9fdc9bf
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 24, 2019, 12:22:48 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Posting the obvious here, to bookmark it for FB when I get home.

https://www.apnews.com/1a53b13c1d8d4a4d9ef0ffe8d5ffff38

I want him to win the Nobel Peace prize, that would make not only my day, but my decade.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 23, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
It's not like SCIFs are priority targets for foreign intelligence services because they detail sources and methods to Congress, or that cellphones can be remotely turned into microphones or that the US intelligence agencies know this and HAVE A BIG FUCKING DUDE POSTED OUTSIDE THE DOOR TO TAKE YOUR PHONES FROM YOU or anything.

Endangering US intelligence operations to own the libs.

Surprise, surprise.  This was organized by Jim Jordan and Mark Walker.

They must've thought a baby's life was in danger in that SCIF. As moral, godfearing men I'm certain they would never do something so dangerous and reckless for mere political advantage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 24, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 24, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 23, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
It's not like SCIFs are priority targets for foreign intelligence services because they detail sources and methods to Congress, or that cellphones can be remotely turned into microphones or that the US intelligence agencies know this and HAVE A BIG FUCKING DUDE POSTED OUTSIDE THE DOOR TO TAKE YOUR PHONES FROM YOU or anything.

Endangering US intelligence operations to own the libs.

Surprise, surprise.  This was organized by Jim Jordan and Mark Walker.

They must've thought a baby's life was in danger in that SCIF. As moral, godfearing men I'm certain they would never do something so dangerous and reckless for mere political advantage.

Did you keep a straight face while you typed that? How in the fuck did you manage it, if so?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 24, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
After the last 4 years I've had?  :lulz: I had a masterclass in keeping my face as still as possible
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 05:51:05 PM
And the military version of the hokey pokey continues:

https://www.apnews.com/334caccc941b40c99f0a6b9c40cd66cc

Good thing nobody let ISIS out of their cage or anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
Trump is also "suggesting" that the Kurds follow them there.

Of course, Trump has never suggested a thing in his life. He gives orders, and expects them to be followed.

He himself is of course not using violence to engineer this move, but his actions did allow for someone else to use violence. Sounds rather like ethnic cleansing by proxy, doesn't it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
Trump is also "suggesting" that the Kurds follow them there.

Of course, Trump has never suggested a thing in his life. He gives orders, and expects them to be followed.

He himself is of course not using violence to engineer this move, but his actions did allow for someone else to use violence. Sounds rather like ethnic cleansing by proxy, doesn't it?

Sounds like that.  It is that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 25, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
Trump is also "suggesting" that the Kurds follow them there.

Of course, Trump has never suggested a thing in his life. He gives orders, and expects them to be followed.

He himself is of course not using violence to engineer this move, but his actions did allow for someone else to use violence. Sounds rather like ethnic cleansing by proxy, doesn't it?

Sounds like that.  It is that.

Is there recognition of genocide by proxy in international law? Genocide by negligence perhaps? "We could just Not Do Anything and watch the problem solve itself" is enough for criminal convictions the world over, after all.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a hopeless optimist again. It happens when there's enough bad days in a row.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 25, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a hopeless optimist again. It happens when there's enough bad days in a row.

This might explain why I've been an Optimist since about age 8.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 25, 2019, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
Trump is also "suggesting" that the Kurds follow them there.

Of course, Trump has never suggested a thing in his life. He gives orders, and expects them to be followed.

He himself is of course not using violence to engineer this move, but his actions did allow for someone else to use violence. Sounds rather like ethnic cleansing by proxy, doesn't it?

Sounds like that.  It is that.

Is there recognition of genocide by proxy in international law? Genocide by negligence perhaps? "We could just Not Do Anything and watch the problem solve itself" is enough for criminal convictions the world over, after all.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a hopeless optimist again. It happens when there's enough bad days in a row.

Nope. That's the best part. Not that the US recognises the authority of the International Criminal Court, unless it's prosecuting enemies of America anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: nullified on October 25, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 25, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 25, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
Trump is also "suggesting" that the Kurds follow them there.

Of course, Trump has never suggested a thing in his life. He gives orders, and expects them to be followed.

He himself is of course not using violence to engineer this move, but his actions did allow for someone else to use violence. Sounds rather like ethnic cleansing by proxy, doesn't it?

Sounds like that.  It is that.

Is there recognition of genocide by proxy in international law? Genocide by negligence perhaps? "We could just Not Do Anything and watch the problem solve itself" is enough for criminal convictions the world over, after all.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a hopeless optimist again. It happens when there's enough bad days in a row.

Genocide is by definition a crime of conspiracy, so yes, genocide by proxy can be prosecuted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on October 27, 2019, 04:02:21 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982 (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982)

Baghdadi is dead, posting the following, for when Trump starts bragging:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260549166776852480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260549166776852480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2019, 08:10:19 AM
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, leader of ISIS is dead.

For those of you keeping count, that's the ninth time he's been declared dead since 2015
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2019, 10:28:59 AM
Al-Baghdadi, by the way, was hiding out in Idlib Governorate.

Who has control Idblib Governorate since 2017? Turkey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_military_operation_in_Idlib_Governorate

Who has 12 observation posts that are basically military bases? Turkey https://thedefensepost.com/2019/08/21/syria-idlib-military-escalation-turkey/

And who wasn't informed about the raid for fear of tipping off Al-Baghdadi? Turkey https://twitter.com/KonstantinKlug/status/1188398310262001665

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 27, 2019, 02:07:28 PM
Erdogan needed to legitimise his coup with as many allies as possible right, he was also seen as a sharp swing to the right, what better allies then ISIS to keep Syria weak and Turkeys presence in Syria strong
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2019, 04:28:12 PM
Someone suggested a theory that this was a sop to Trump, that the Turks (via a third party) sold Al-Baghdadi out because it gives Trump an easy win to crow about, instead of the focus being on the betrayal of the SDF.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 27, 2019, 04:58:38 PM
This sounds remarkably likely, given how his administration seems to run.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
And Russia is claiming it never happened. Not just that they didn't get him - which would be believable, given recent history - but that there was no airstrike at all.

That's a little harder to swallow. The Trump administration can't say "good morning" without lying twice, but they'd have to convince a lot of people to go along with that, to fake an entire military operation and its outcome. And then al-Baghdadi could just go "lol nope" the next day.

Like with the whole Bin Laden thing, I don't think the US would claim a kill unless they had a justifiable reason to believe it and that the target wouldn't pop up the next day and contradict them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 27, 2019, 10:14:00 PM
Hasn't Baghdadi been killed a couple of times already? I would assume this announcement means he's alive well and living in brooklyn.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 27, 2019, 10:17:28 PM
9 times since 2015 and at least twice before that (though he is not to be confused with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who was also killed multiple times).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: on October 27, 2019, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on October 24, 2019, 12:22:48 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 23, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Posting the obvious here, to bookmark it for FB when I get home.

https://www.apnews.com/1a53b13c1d8d4a4d9ef0ffe8d5ffff38

I want him to win the Nobel Peace prize, that would make not only my day, but my decade.  :lulz:

Better yet: Tell him that the majority of the committee wanted him to have it, but he was overridden by the Electoral College.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: on October 27, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2019, 10:17:28 PM
9 times since 2015 and at least twice before that (though he is not to be confused with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who was also killed multiple times).

Dang, he's even tougher than a cat ...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 28, 2019, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2019, 10:28:59 AM
Al-Baghdadi, by the way, was hiding out in Idlib Governorate.

Who has control Idblib Governorate since 2017? Turkey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_military_operation_in_Idlib_Governorate

Who has 12 observation posts that are basically military bases? Turkey https://thedefensepost.com/2019/08/21/syria-idlib-military-escalation-turkey/

And who wasn't informed about the raid for fear of tipping off Al-Baghdadi? Turkey https://twitter.com/KonstantinKlug/status/1188398310262001665

Pelosi was also not informed.

She isn't really required to be informed, but Trump then said he didn't tell her so it wouldn't leak.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 28, 2019, 04:18:53 PM
Well, it's hard to get good cell reception when you're calling from the golf course...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on October 28, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 27, 2019, 10:17:28 PM
9 times since 2015 and at least twice before that (though he is not to be confused with Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who was also killed multiple times).

Despite strong evidence to the contrary, it was a persistent rumor that it was Abu Omar al-Baghdadi who swallowed Mr. Momomoto's brother's nose.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 28, 2019, 09:43:00 PM
I see why Pelosi is doing this, but it's risky.

https://www.apnews.com/cf88cfa7205740b790f6947e38920bd8
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 02:32:30 PM
https://apnews.com/c45cb728edf84d96adf9a88e98979c51

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — An Army officer at the National Security Council who twice raised concerns over the Trump administration's push to have Ukraine investigate Democrats and Joe Biden, arrived in military uniform on Capitol Hill to testify Tuesday in the impeachment inquiry.

Alexander Vindman, an lieutenant colonel who served in Iraq and, later, as a diplomat, is prepared to tell House investigators that he listened to President Donald Trump's July 25 call with new Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and reported his concerns to the NSC's lead counsel, according to prepared testimony.

Snip

QuoteAt least one Trump ally sought to discredit Vindman ahead of his testimony by appearing to question his loyalty to the U.S. Former GOP Rep. Sean Duffy told CNN that the Purple Heart recipient has an "affinity" for Ukraine.

"It seems very clear that he is incredibly concerned about Ukrainian defense," he said. "I don't know that he's concerned about American policy, but his main mission was to make sure that the Ukraine got those weapons."

Yes.  Because he was an officer, and that was the mission he was given.   :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 29, 2019, 02:42:01 PM
But Roger, can we trust that this Jewish soldier does not have dual loyalties (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair)?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 02:42:26 PM
And then Trump stepped out of his bubble. 

https://apnews.com/e749219724ba489bb137d6086dc06676
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 29, 2019, 02:42:01 PM
But Roger, can we trust that this Jewish soldier does not have dual loyalties (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair)?

:lulz:

Funny thing is, his ancestry is Russian and he has displayed a willingness to stick his thumb in Russia's eye.

But of course they're going to say he's disloyal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 29, 2019, 02:46:59 PM
Well, that's how history goes, you know. We're well into the "as farce" stage by this point.

But seriously the analogy is too good to pass up on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 29, 2019, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 02:42:26 PM
And then Trump stepped out of his bubble. 

https://apnews.com/e749219724ba489bb137d6086dc06676

Quote""I'd wear getting booed in the swamp as a badge of honor," tweeted his oldest son, Donald Trump Jr. "If you're pissing them off you're doing something right!"

Ah yes, the 2nd class citizen democratic swamp peoples don't deserve representation, according to Jr.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 07:26:55 PM
BRINGING COAL JOBS BACK.

https://apnews.com/90f02e9d09df4053a98d674d64c18e94
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 29, 2019, 08:08:28 PM
Maybe they can be repurposed by ICE as gulags?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: on October 30, 2019, 06:22:41 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 29, 2019, 02:42:26 PM
And then Trump stepped out of his bubble. 

https://apnews.com/e749219724ba489bb137d6086dc06676

And Fox News [sic] thought that the crowd was going to cheer him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Trump is gonna shit.   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/63057938a5b64d3592f800de19f443bc

QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Twitter is banning all political advertising from its service, saying social media companies give advertisers an unfair advantage in proliferating highly targeted, misleading messages.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 30, 2019, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Trump is gonna shit.   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/63057938a5b64d3592f800de19f443bc

QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Twitter is banning all political advertising from its service, saying social media companies give advertisers an unfair advantage in proliferating highly targeted, misleading messages.

I think last year there was a crackdown on Instagram about all these people promoting products, in which they had to change their accounts to a business profile or explicitly announce that it was a paid promotion... I think Youtube has a similar policy in which paid promotions need to be announced.

So, policing "political advertisement" whichever way its defined is very much harder to come thru with, since one cannot easily tell who is getting paid or not to promote a viewpoint or stance, so the only manner to truly clean house is to get rid of it altogether... which would make Twitter unique in that policy, which i feel is a step in a good direction (?), but people will just use other platforms for the same purpose, so its inconsequential (?)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 31, 2019, 03:16:00 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 30, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Trump is gonna shit.   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/63057938a5b64d3592f800de19f443bc

QuoteSAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Twitter is banning all political advertising from its service, saying social media companies give advertisers an unfair advantage in proliferating highly targeted, misleading messages.

I expect the chosen replacement will rue the day. But its a wonderful fuck you. Taking away his favourite toy. He's having the best, most beautiful tantrum right now. The biggest paddy of all time. Experts have examined it and they say it was twice as big as any hissy fit Obama managed. Period.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 02:14:05 PM
Quote"According to Mr. Morrison, President Trump told Ambassador Sondland that he was not asking for a quid pro quo," Taylor testified. "But President Trump did insist that President Zelenskiy go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelenskiy should want to do this himself. Mr. Morrison said that he told Ambassador Bolton and the NSC lawyers of this phone call between President Trump and Ambassador Sondland."

https://apnews.com/e6b5c1b4adbc40dda0bb4f7fba8bae1d
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 31, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
Yeah, that's actually called extortion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 31, 2019, 02:57:39 PM
So it wasn't quid pro quo because it was extortion! Checkmate liberals 8)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 31, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
Yeah, that's actually called extortion.

"I want you should do me this favor, on this, the day of my daughter's wedding.  ehhhhh"
\
:joshua:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 03:10:22 PM
Also this.

https://apnews.com/b319898fe544456a912e5aa456cf8ffc

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — A federal watchdog is criticizing the way the Trump administration handles taxes on imported steel and aluminum, saying a lack of transparency creates the appearance of "improper influence."

The Commerce Department's inspector general raised questions about a process that lets steel and aluminum importers request relief from tariffs imposed in March 2018.

Other companies — mostly U.S. steel and aluminum producers that benefit from the tariffs — can object to the exemption requests.

In an Oct. 28 report, the IG said Commerce officials had discussed the requests with "interested parties" and took action based on those conversations. But it said the exchanges were not mentioned in official records, suggesting that the "review process is not transparent and that decisions are not rendered based on evidence contained in the record."

More Boss Tweed fun at link.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 03:54:28 PM
Impeachment procedure vote successful, right down party lines.

https://apnews.com/ac8e83d06aea4f1a82b7d1e95bbaeb40

QuoteThe White House says the House vote approving rules for its impeachment inquiry has enshrined "unacceptable violations of due process into House rules."

Press secretary Stephanie Grisham says in a statement moments after the House vote that the process "is unfair, unconstitutional, and fundamentally un-American."

Thursday's near party-line 232-196 vote was a victory for Democrats, who will control the investigation in the House. It gives them the ability to curb the ability of Republicans to subpoena witnesses and of White House lawyers to present witnesses.

Grisham says President Donald Trump "has done nothing wrong" and that Democrats have an "unhinged obsession" with impeachment. Her statement was echoed by Trump's reelection campaign which accused Democrats of trying to legitimize their process after the fact.

Campaign manager Brad Parscale says: "Voters will punish Democrats who support this farce and President Trump will be easily re-elected."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 31, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Investigations are a violation of due process.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 31, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Investigations are a violation of due process.


Likewise, we can't investigate a murderer until he's been convicted.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 09:46:55 PM
https://apnews.com/e6b5c1b4adbc40dda0bb4f7fba8bae1d

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — A former top White House official confirmed Thursday that military aid to Ukraine was held up by President Donald Trump's demand for the ally to investigate Democrats and Joe Biden, but he testified he saw nothing illegal about the quid pro quo at the center of the Democrat-led impeachment inquiry.

snip

QuoteTaylor's testimony contradicted Trump's repeated denials that there was any quid pro quo.

Morrison testified Thursday that he initially knew so little about Bursima that he had to do a Google search, but quickly understood the Biden connection.

He did clarify one difference from Taylor's recollection of events: He said it was his understanding that "it could be sufficient" if the new Ukraine attorney general, rather than Zelenskiy himself, committed "to pursue the Burisma investigation."

As the security funds for Ukraine were being withheld, Morrison told the diplomat, "President doesn't want to provide any assistance at all."

Their concerns deepened when Morrison relayed on Sept. 7 the conversation he had with Sondland that gave him that "sinking feeling."

In it, Sondland explained that Trump said he was not asking for a quid pro quo but insisted that Zelenskiy "go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference," Taylor testified last week.

The GOP is trying to spin this as exculpatory.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 31, 2019, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 09:46:55 PM
https://apnews.com/e6b5c1b4adbc40dda0bb4f7fba8bae1d

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — A former top White House official confirmed Thursday that military aid to Ukraine was held up by President Donald Trump's demand for the ally to investigate Democrats and Joe Biden, but he testified he saw nothing illegal about the quid pro quo at the center of the Democrat-led impeachment inquiry.

snip

QuoteTaylor's testimony contradicted Trump's repeated denials that there was any quid pro quo.

Morrison testified Thursday that he initially knew so little about Bursima that he had to do a Google search, but quickly understood the Biden connection.

He did clarify one difference from Taylor's recollection of events: He said it was his understanding that "it could be sufficient" if the new Ukraine attorney general, rather than Zelenskiy himself, committed "to pursue the Burisma investigation."

As the security funds for Ukraine were being withheld, Morrison told the diplomat, "President doesn't want to provide any assistance at all."

Their concerns deepened when Morrison relayed on Sept. 7 the conversation he had with Sondland that gave him that "sinking feeling."

In it, Sondland explained that Trump said he was not asking for a quid pro quo but insisted that Zelenskiy "go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference," Taylor testified last week.

The GOP is trying to spin this as exculpatory.

As you do, you know.

"Yeah I committed arson but the houses were probably going to be condemned anyway and my buddy who held the matches said it was okay so what's the big deal?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 31, 2019, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 31, 2019, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 31, 2019, 03:58:53 PM
Investigations are a violation of due process.
Likewise, we can't investigate a murderer until he's been convicted.   :lulz:

Some of the arguments against the impeachment proceedings have the effect of "the suspect should be allowed to participate in the murder investigation."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 02, 2019, 02:25:10 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fireside-chat-on-live-television-trump-says-he-wants-to-read-transcript-of-ukraine-call-to-american-people

Quote
"This is over a phone call that is a good call," Trump, sitting behind the Resolute Desk, said in an interview with the Washington Examiner. "At some point, I'm going to sit down, perhaps as a fireside chat on live television, and I will read the transcript of the call, because people have to hear it. When you read it, it's a straight call."

Nixon tried to raise support with the public, too, but he didn't go quite so far as granting legitimacy to the evidence against him by staging a re-enactment of the tapes...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 02, 2019, 03:03:38 PM
Not to mention the whistleblower has been saying all along that the trascripts are redacted and have specifically removed mention of Biden in particular from them.

So good job Donnie, you go ahead and read your own doctored transcripts, if that helps you keep your story straight.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 03, 2019, 04:31:50 PM
Buzzfeed FOIA requested Muller memos. Will release them weekly over the next 8 years. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/mueller-report-secret-memos-1)

First batch takeaways:
QuoteManafort was pushing the conspiracy theory that Ukraine hacked the DNC as early as 2016
QuoteMichael Cohen "had to keep Trump out of the messaging related to Russia"
QuoteGates said the Trump campaign was "very happy" about the release of hacked DNC emails
QuoteAfter the hacked DNC emails, Trump told Gates that "more leaks were coming"
QuoteBannon told the FBI that Jared Kushner vacationed with a Russian oligarch
QuoteManafort was advising the Trump campaign up until days before the election
QuoteTrump supporter and associate Ted Malloch emailed Bannon before the first debate and said Trump should start by handing Hillary Clinton a "Writ of Indictment."
Quote"Bannon first met Trump in August of 2010. Their first meeting was approximately 2 hours long. David Bossie was present and said that Trump was thinking of running for president in 2012. Bannon said 'for what country?'"
QuoteBannon on recognizing the Israeli capital as Jerusalem
QuoteThe file for Cohen's FBI interview from August 2018 contained a few handwritten pages, with one note that read, "DJT Jr.: I have a meeting in order to get dirt on Clinton. (or, 'Hillary')."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 03, 2019, 05:57:21 PM
They're going to be dumping these every week up until the election  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 05, 2019, 08:25:26 PM
Hey Cain, what's the deal with the no shows to Congress? I'm seeing all sorts of unintended consequences here and it all looks fun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 05, 2019, 09:45:58 PM
You mean Pompeo et al for the impeachment investigation? They should be found in contempt of Congress...but they probably won't be.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 05, 2019, 09:59:15 PM
Pretty much, sets up some interesting precedents for the next few years. Just imagine what competent goons could pull off. I can see some full on bond villain shit being pulled rather than this third rate tat.

2028 candidate making speech from hollow volcano seems electable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 05, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Sondheim just testified again, described a textbook quid pro quo.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 03:10:34 AM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://apnews.com/fd996ce3e4494a37a4136926cf9425eb

QuoteRICHMOND, Va. (AP) — The Latest on Virginia's legislative elections (all times local):

10 p.m.

Virginia Democrats are taking full control of the statehouse for the first time in more than two decades.

Democrats won majorities in both the state House and Senate in Tuesday's legislative election. This is the third election in a row that Virginia Democrats have made significant gains since President Donald Trump was elected.

The win will give Democrats control of the legislature and governorship for the first time in 26 years. Democrats have pledged to pass new gun restrictions and raise the minimum wage once in power.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 03:12:37 AM
Also looks like Bevins is out on his ass after Trump spent a few weeks stumping for him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2019, 03:15:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/381OEdI.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 06, 2019, 03:26:19 AM
HA

Also, fuck yeah! This stands to be a huge thing for 2020, they get at least two huge pushes in their favor out of this for basically free: minimum wage bump and actually winning the state of Virginia. These are things that just are there and can't be fucked up and will result in positive appraisal going into 2020.

Handled right, they can even eke out two more: "see our gun restrictions didn't delete the second amendment" and "see our gun restrictions actually affected crime statistics".

These are harder wins and I think it's really hard to get both simultaneously as /unquestionable/ wins — but it's definitely possible and those are successes that, combined, would just completely eliminate NRA talking points, opening an enormous swath of the populace to jump to the Dems. I'm keeping my eye on Virginia, I think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 03:27:16 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 06, 2019, 03:26:19 AM
HA

Also, fuck yeah! This stands to be a huge thing for 2020, they get at least two huge pushes in their favor out of this for basically free: minimum wage bump and actually winning the state of Virginia. These are things that just are there and can't be fucked up and will result in positive appraisal going into 2020.

Handled right, they can even eke out two more: "see our gun restrictions didn't delete the second amendment" and "see our gun restrictions actually affected crime statistics".

These are harder wins and I think it's really hard to get both simultaneously as /unquestionable/ wins — but it's definitely possible and those are successes that, combined, would just completely eliminate NRA talking points, opening an enormous swath of the populace to jump to the Dems. I'm keeping my eye on Virginia, I think.

Yep.

Anyone see Graham squealing earlier today?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 06:17:47 PM
https://apnews.com/9fb9cc52f8e2486597d83bf646b9374a

House announces public hearings next week.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2019, 06:30:03 PM
I unironically love how the Republicans keep screeching for things, the Dems keep giving them to them during the course of the impeachment inquiry process, and then they screech even more.

Like, I'm not mad about the Dems doing these things, this is the way it's meant to be. I'm laughing at people going "THEY NEED TO RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS" and then, when they do, they're like "I REFUSE TO READ THEM!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 06:57:48 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 06, 2019, 06:30:03 PM
I unironically love how the Republicans keep screeching for things, the Dems keep giving them to them during the course of the impeachment inquiry process, and then they screech even more.

Like, I'm not mad about the Dems doing these things, this is the way it's meant to be. I'm laughing at people going "THEY NEED TO RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS" and then, when they do, they're like "I REFUSE TO READ THEM!"

Yeah, they are getting played like a fiddle at this point.

What this is going to come down to is, the dems will make the case, the senate will fail to convict, and the message to everyone is that the party matters, the rule of law does not.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 06, 2019, 07:22:45 PM
Yeah, that's how I see it too. It's a point that needs to be made, at least.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 06, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME
             /
:lord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 06, 2019, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 06, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME
             /
:lord:

THERE IS NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "NOT PERFECT" AND "WORST CASE."
\
:joshua:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:14:41 AM
Well done, that man.

https://apnews.com/9c75a169944e4ff7ba4fb4d2617b8445
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:19:49 AM
Also, from WaPo:

QuotePresident Trump wanted Attorney General William P. Barr to hold a news conference declaring the commander in chief had broken no laws during a phone call in which he pressed his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate a political rival, though Barr ultimately declined to do so, people familiar with the matter said.

The request from Trump traveled from the president, to other White House officials, and eventually to the Justice Department. The president has mentioned Barr's declination to associates in recent weeks, saying he wished Barr would have held the news conference, Trump advisers say.

ETA:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...5a8_story.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:25:33 AM
AND THEN SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING, RUDY.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giuliani-floats-new-explanation-for-pressuring-ukraine-to-investigate-biden-004152601.html

Not even gonna post a snip.  You gotta read this shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2019, 02:30:42 AM
Oh my fucking god.

It's like he's trying to make it worse! And make less sense! I'm baffled, what the fuck could possess anyone to say this??? This doesn't make any sense at all!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2019, 02:30:42 AM
Oh my fucking god.

It's like he's trying to make it worse! And make less sense! I'm baffled, what the fuck could possess anyone to say this??? This doesn't make any sense at all!

It's Rudy.  He can arrange a plea on your traffic ticket and get it reduced to second-degree murder.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 07, 2019, 04:01:26 AM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 07, 2019, 06:03:28 AM
When your lawyers are routinely hiring lawyers of their own you're well into sitcom territory.

If they are halfway competent their first instruction will be stop fucking saying anything.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 07, 2019, 03:10:35 PM
Well it makes sense, you're going to get emotional if you're about to get raw-dogged in court as fuck, so you want someone else to represent you, just typically this kind of thing doesn't come up in polite discussion, I guess, until now. My mom finally stopped trying to discuss politics every time we talk, that's a sign that dark days are ahead. Politics have been a shitty subject and everyone fucking knew it was since it was all a KGB plot to fuck everyone, but hey, here we are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 04:37:57 PM
https://apnews.com/0a162d2261e840038194f90cc5312cfd

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Thursday denied a report that he wanted Attorney General William Barr to hold a press conference to declare he broke no laws during a July phone call in which Trump pressed his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate Democrats.

Trump tweeted just after midnight that the story, first reported by The Washington Post, "is totally untrue and just another FAKE NEWS story with anonymous sources that don't exist."

And he continued to lash out at the press, declaring "The LameStream Media" to be the "Enemy of the People."

The Post reported that Barr rebuffed the request, which came in September around the time the White House released a rough transcript of Trump's July 25 call at the center of the House impeachment probe. The paper, citing unidentified people familiar with the effort, said the request was relayed from the president to White House officials, and then to the Justice Department.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 09:05:43 PM
https://apnews.com/fb44886cc98248f2a4e623e049fc38de

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — There were three words President Donald Trump wanted to hear from the Ukraine president: Investigations, Biden and Clinton.

That's according to the transcript, released Thursday, of an impeachment inquiry interview with career State Department official George Kent.

"Potus wanted nothing less than President Zelenskiy to go to the microphone and say investigations, Biden and Clinton," Kent testified.

"That was the message. ... Zelenskiy needed to go to a microphone and basically there needed to be three words in the message, and that was the shorthand," he said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 07, 2019, 09:35:12 PM
 :lulz: He is so totally fucked.

Not necessarily in an impeachment sense, just in general.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2019, 09:35:12 PM
:lulz: He is so totally fucked.

Not necessarily in an impeachment sense, just in general.

His bad day just got worse.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/7b8d0f5ce9cb4cadad948c2c414afd57

QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — A judge Thursday ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to an array of charities as a fine for misusing his own charitable foundation to further his political and business interests.

New York state Judge Saliann Scarpulla imposed the penalty after the president admitted to a series of abuses that were outlined in a lawsuit brought against him last year by the New York attorney general's office.

Among other things, Trump acknowledged he improperly allowed his presidential campaign staff to coordinate with the Trump Foundation in holding a fundraiser for veterans during the run-up to the 2016 Iowa caucuses. The event was designed "to further Mr. Trump's political campaign," Scarpulla said.

The foundation will be dissolved and its $1.7 million in remaining funds will be given to other nonprofits, under agreements reached by Trump's lawyers and the attorney general's office.

As part of those agreements , made public Thursday, the two sides left it up to the judge to decide what penalty Trump should pay.

The settlement was an about-face for Trump. He and his lawyers have blasted the lawsuit as politically motivated, and he tweeted, "I won't settle this case!" when it was filed in June 2018.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 08, 2019, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2019, 02:30:42 AM
Oh my fucking god.

It's like he's trying to make it worse! And make less sense! I'm baffled, what the fuck could possess anyone to say this??? This doesn't make any sense at all!

It's Rudy.  He can arrange a plea on your traffic ticket and get it reduced to second-degree murder.

:spit:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 08, 2019, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 07, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
Quote from: nullified on November 07, 2019, 02:30:42 AM
Oh my fucking god.

It's like he's trying to make it worse! And make less sense! I'm baffled, what the fuck could possess anyone to say this??? This doesn't make any sense at all!

It's Rudy.  He can arrange a plea on your traffic ticket and get it reduced to second-degree murder.

:spit:

I told you man, this is the generation of Cramulus.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 08, 2019, 06:19:22 PM
https://apnews.com/2e4639f57c45439ba258e0206e0628eb

Another few hundred pages of house transcripts released.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 09, 2019, 12:09:19 AM
Bolton is also saying there were additional problems with the Ukraine affair that have not yet been reported on. He's still discussing things with his lawyers though, so he hasn't said what.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 09, 2019, 04:56:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 09, 2019, 12:09:19 AM
Bolton is also saying there were additional problems with the Ukraine affair that have not yet been reported on. He's still discussing things with his lawyers though, so he hasn't said what.

I am convinced that Bolton is just itching to stick the knife in Trump.  He isn't known for being a forgiving man.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 02:29:13 PM
FOUND OUT WHY PERRY'S QUITTING!   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/6d8ae551fb884371a2a592ed85a74426
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 11, 2019, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 02:29:13 PM
FOUND OUT WHY PERRY'S QUITTING!   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/6d8ae551fb884371a2a592ed85a74426

Well, that is quite the circle-jerk right there. But, if you just, crawl out of that hobo den and pick yourself up by your bootstraps maybe one day you too can play good ol' boy games with the big guys.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 11, 2019, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 02:29:13 PM
FOUND OUT WHY PERRY'S QUITTING!   :lulz:

https://apnews.com/6d8ae551fb884371a2a592ed85a74426

Well, that is quite the circle-jerk right there. But, if you just, crawl out of that hobo den and pick yourself up by your bootstraps maybe one day you too can play good ol' boy games with the big guys.

I don't wanna.

QuoteAs Trump's energy secretary, Perry has flown around the globe to push for U.S. exports of liquefied natural gas, which he calls "Freedom Gas."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 11, 2019, 06:07:50 PM
FREEDOM GAS
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 11, 2019, 06:07:50 PM
FREEDOM GAS

Every time I hear that, I cringe so hard I prolapse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2019, 06:28:32 PM
It's like they heard of Freedom Fries and went "hold my beer".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 11, 2019, 06:28:32 PM
It's like they heard of Freedom Fries and went "hold my beer".

It's the un-ironic Orwellism that makes my teeth itch.

I am waiting for Freedom Cuffs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2019, 06:37:54 PM
Trump probably wants freedom from gas, looking at him. There's an indigestion disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 11, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
The likeness of him in Alabama recently got some freedom from gas. Too bad they didn't mistakenly hit the wrong large orange thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 11, 2019, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-considers-launching-impeachment-podcast
Rudy Giuliani is reportedly considering launching his own impeachment podcast that would essentially provide his side of the story. According to CNN, Giuliani was overheard discussing details of the podcast with an unidentified woman at a New York City restaurant Saturday—including recording dates, release dates, logo design, and the process of distributing the podcast on iTunes and other platforms.

The former New York mayor and current Trump lawyer reportedly said he'd hope the podcast would have four or five episodes "to analyze the impeachment in every aspect," and seemed to want to have four episodes completed before a prospective Senate trial.

Quick! SOMEBODY CALL CASPER MATTERESS!!!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 09:49:36 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on November 11, 2019, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-considers-launching-impeachment-podcast
Rudy Giuliani is reportedly considering launching his own impeachment podcast that would essentially provide his side of the story. According to CNN, Giuliani was overheard discussing details of the podcast with an unidentified woman at a New York City restaurant Saturday—including recording dates, release dates, logo design, and the process of distributing the podcast on iTunes and other platforms.

The former New York mayor and current Trump lawyer reportedly said he'd hope the podcast would have four or five episodes "to analyze the impeachment in every aspect," and seemed to want to have four episodes completed before a prospective Senate trial.

Quick! SOMEBODY CALL CASPER MATTERESS!!!

Oh, this is PRICELESS.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 09:55:57 PM
And then Junior managed to piss off his dad's base.

https://apnews.com/f1afff0c4f654a91bc72621c13445e81
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 09:57:24 PM
PUD RUNNING FOR THE BORDER, JOHN BOLTON WAITING IN THE WINGS.

https://apnews.com/5c51f1fe7c524c699d20471a3cf92dc6

:motorcycle:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 12, 2019, 12:22:43 AM
Welp.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/pentagon-official-testifies-trump-directed-freeze-aid-ukraine-n1080256

The density of some of the minds on the face of this country are coming dangerously close to collapsing in on themselves. Or maybe they did a long time ago and I failed to notice.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 12, 2019, 02:31:23 AM
Today is like a swirling whirlpool of poop that keeps acting like it's about to flush, but just barely dodges the next turn.

The only outcomes are it goes down, the toilet clogs, or BOTH.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 12, 2019, 02:19:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 11, 2019, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 11, 2019, 06:28:32 PM
It's like they heard of Freedom Fries and went "hold my beer".

It's the un-ironic Orwellism that makes my teeth itch.

I am waiting for Freedom Cuffs.

Liberty bracelets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 12, 2019, 03:31:25 PM
No, there's an extra layer of awareness there that these people lack. "Freedom cuffs" is on point. They hate liberty, you see, and they have a different idea of freedom from you and I. And cuffs are something that keeps freedom flowing from the powerless to the powerful.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 12, 2019, 04:39:19 PM
https://apnews.com/dfd0f9d6c9014084aa7d0f0cdb466636

Mulvaney will be in prison by 2021.  You heard it here first.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 12, 2019, 05:04:17 PM
https://apnews.com/872535d7f5b34a0986d719a3088fdf52

And Trump gets caught in another lie to congress.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 12, 2019, 05:43:44 PM
https://apnews.com/52b6a16fa159457b907cc90c4846d6a0

Napalitano's views on the current impeachment process do not appear favorable to Dump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 13, 2019, 04:20:23 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-stephen-miller-emails-breitbart-white-nationalist-racist-anti-immigration-splc-1471279

Anyone truly surprised?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 13, 2019, 04:37:37 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 13, 2019, 04:20:23 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-stephen-miller-emails-breitbart-white-nationalist-racist-anti-immigration-splc-1471279

Anyone truly surprised?

Not really but I appreciate the reporting because this kind of shit gets normalized wayyyyy too easily. They will brazenly flash the ok sign, raise the flag back up on 8/8, casually drop the "14 words" on an official white House press release regarding the detention of children. Yeah, this fucker has to go years ago. Should have seen it coming when Jeff Sessions recommend his former coms director.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
https://apnews.com/468e0bcb51e74822a1f8cc11627a1c0d

QuoteMoments after the hearings began, his reelection machine sent out an email blast: "FAKE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS HAVE BEGUN! ... I WANT TO RAISE 3 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS."

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
He mad.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 13, 2019, 07:16:49 PM
 :lulz: Woooooo!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2019, 07:24:59 PM
I get those emails. They are as crazycakes as you would expect them to be.

Here's the whole thing:

QuoteFAKE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS HAVE BEGUN!


Jerry,

The Democrats are playing a sick game.

The Impeachment Scam hearings begin today! This is a complete Fake Hearing (trial) to interview Never Trumpers and a Pelosi-Schiff SCAM against the Republican Party and me.

It's obvious they hate me, but more importantly, they HATE YOU. The Democrats know they can't win in 2020, so they want to rip the power from your hands by ERASING your VOTE, ERASING your VOICE, and ERASING your FUTURE!

BOTTOM LINE: THIS WITCH HUNT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PROCEED.

The Radical Left and Lamestream Media are just trying to make it hard for TRUE AMERICANS, including YOUR PRESIDENT, to win in 2020. We can't let them get away with this.

It's time to make a statement. I want to do something so EPIC that even the FAKE NEWS media won't be able to ignore us while these baseless Witch Hunt Trials go on.

I WANT TO RAISE 3 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

These next 24 hours are SO CRITICAL, that I've authorized an EMERGENCY DOUBLE-MATCH on ALL DONATIONS. 

Please contribute $5 in the NEXT 24 HOURS to stand with me against the Fake Impeachment Hoax and your gift will automatically be DOUBLE-MATCHED. >>



Together, we are going to show the degenerate Trump Haters that they cannot break us and that AMERICA will no longer tolerate their CORRUPT actions.

I can't do this alone, Jerry. I'm counting on my BEST supporters, like you, to stand with me now when it matters most. Don't let me down, the Nation is counting on you.

I've requested a list of every patriot who steps up with a critical contribution during the Fake Impeachment Hoax. I expect to see your name on that list.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT in the NEXT 24 HOURS and your gift will be DOUBLED!

Thank you,


Donald J. Trump
President of the United States



The "List of names" of "patriots" who have contributed to his campaign being delivered to his desk for him to review is a very common theme in these emails.

Also, how did he "authorize" an "Automatic Double Mach" of donations? Who is matching it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2019, 07:28:55 PM
Actually, that was the second one, but they were both pretty similar. Mostly the same wording, just some slight variations in namecalling of the EVIL WICKED DEMOCRATS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
QuoteAlso, how did he "authorize" an "Automatic Double Mach" of donations? Who is matching it?

He's probably going to steal from another of his charities to pay for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 13, 2019, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 13, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
QuoteAlso, how did he "authorize" an "Automatic Double Mach" of donations? Who is matching it?

He's probably going to steal from another of his charities to pay for it.

Or, he's just lying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 13, 2019, 08:08:31 PM
I'm having some difficulty believing this isn't satire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 13, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 13, 2019, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 13, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
QuoteAlso, how did he "authorize" an "Automatic Double Mach" of donations? Who is matching it?

He's probably going to steal from another of his charities to pay for it.

Or, he's just lying.

Yes, like all the "win a breakfast with Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/08/trump-dinner-meal-donors-win-prizes)" competitions that never actually happened.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 13, 2019, 08:21:36 PM
Or the pay £100 to "apply" to be a Brexit party mp. Raised a few hundred thousand.

I believe the technical sales term for such lists is "suckers list". I would also assume that high net worth donors get something a touch more sophisticated. Or not, actually. Just that, you know, a semi competent person would.

And the double match thing is clearly a lie. If he had the wealth he claims, 3million is pocket change. But he isn't rich so I'm guessing that one of his places is about to go bang owing around 2.7 million as he recently settled the windfarm shit in Scotland at around 200k loss in legal fees.

Such deal making. Much acumen. Biggest brain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2019, 08:27:48 PM
All of you are correct, but the average MAGA freak doesn't care.  They are buying the illusion of inclusion, and they don't care that they know it's an illusion.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 14, 2019, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 13, 2019, 07:24:59 PM
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Together, we are going to show the degenerate Trump Haters

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Imagine using the word "degenerate" unironically in 2019.  :roll:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 14, 2019, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2019, 08:27:48 PM
All of you are correct, but the average MAGA freak doesn't care.  They are buying the illusion of inclusion, and they don't care that they know it's an illusion.


Yup. The "both parties are liars so we will just stick with our guy" narrative as a way of obliterating trust in democracy and norms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 14, 2019, 09:59:53 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470516-giuliani-jokes-he-has-very-good-insurance-if-trump-turns-on-him

In the comments I read to the article someone said "Nice presidency you have there... be a shame if something happened to it."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 15, 2019, 02:29:49 PM
https://apple.news/AaPOLaozrTd-QaqfGsXFz6g

It's not strictly trump but fuck it

The sacred bull is about to be enshrined in law, can we campaign heavily for this in Ohio
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 15, 2019, 04:10:38 PM
I would read it but it wants me to download something. When searching for news articles I'm often frustrated by sites that want me to either pay and/or register to read their content. This is a new thing, but kind of meh. Could you summarize it for me? Or perhaps provide a link to a similar source?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

https://apnews.com/ad355d2c983e4a7c85bc17e86d8c563f

Roger Stone goin' to the BIG HOUSE.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 15, 2019, 05:21:33 PM
... he threatened the dude's THERAPY dog...

That's, sinking pathetically low. Like, cheesy western bad-guy low.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2019, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 15, 2019, 05:21:33 PM
... he threatened the dude's THERAPY dog...

That's, sinking pathetically low. Like, cheesy western bad-guy low.

Yeah, not even THE BAD GUY level stuff.  It's more like a sociopathic 7 year old.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 15, 2019, 06:27:27 PM
Roger Stone has always been a sociopathic 7 year old. Just read any account of attempts to interview him by women journalists.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 15, 2019, 11:50:20 PM
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470672-federal-prosecutors-investigate-giulianis-gas-industry-links-in

Here we go boys and girls! Buckle the fuck up!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 16, 2019, 02:20:37 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 15, 2019, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 15, 2019, 05:21:33 PM
... he threatened the dude's THERAPY dog...

That's, sinking pathetically low. Like, cheesy western bad-guy low.

Yeah, not even THE BAD GUY level stuff.  It's more like a sociopathic 7 year old.

It reminds me of third rate action movies where the antagonist (already doing something like creating bubonic Ebola to spread over third world countries because HE CAN) shoots an innocent child in dramatic slow motion, then laughs about it. Like, we already hated him, now we just don't give a fuck about him, or this movie.

He's become a cardboard cutout antagonist of a bad Sci-Fi Channel Original Movie. That's... almost impressive. But like, the opposite.

I watched a lot of pre-SyFy SciFi Channel original movies, you might have guessed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 16, 2019, 09:31:22 AM
Y'all know Roger Stone literally has a tattoo of Nixon on his back, right?

Like, he wasn't exactly making it subtle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 16, 2019, 09:32:09 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/RjatGCQ.png)

Yeah... Totally normal shit ...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 16, 2019, 05:54:49 PM
Might put off the prison rapists I guess?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 16, 2019, 06:08:11 PM
He likes that Tricky Dick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 18, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
Annnnnd Trump has more or less abandoned the Ukraine entirely.

https://apnews.com/6b6705dc115846b094565358b8526dc9
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 18, 2019, 03:11:12 PM
Annnnd Zelenskiy knew this might happen, so he apparently lied as well.

https://apnews.com/139dd535eac749aa961bc0205d10e872
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 18, 2019, 03:19:50 PM
Another Trump-backed candidate takes a dive:

Edwards keeps governor's seat in Louisiana.

https://apnews.com/b65e73cbb2304514997d073a36e5bcbd

QuoteBATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Deep in the heart of the conservative South, Louisiana's voters reelected Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards to a second term, shocking Republicans who had hoped to reclaim the seat on the strength of President Donald Trump's popularity.

With his focus on bipartisan, state-specific issues, the moderate Edwards cobbled together enough cross-party support Saturday to defeat Republican businessman Eddie Rispone, getting about 51% of the vote.

Trump fought to return the seat to the GOP, but his intense interest in the race not only motivated conservative Republicans, but also powered a surge in anti-Trump and black voter turnout that helped boost Edwards over the finish line.

also

QuoteIn a victory rally of his own late Saturday, Edwards thanked supporters who danced, sang and cheered in celebration, while he declared, "How sweet it is!"

He added, "And as for the president, God bless his heart" — a phrase often used by genteel Southerners to politely deprecate someone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 18, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-says-he-will-strongly-consider-testifying-house-impeachment-probe-n1084771

Hoo boy! This is gonna be funny! What happens when he won't shut up while the gavel is being dropped?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 18, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
He won't. Remember when he was sooooo keen to talk with Muelller? This is the same line of bullshit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 18, 2019, 03:55:20 PM
I think he was actually keen on it but his aides pointed out that he would have been tarred and feathered for his crimes.

If I remember correctly, the adults left the room and he's perfectly capable of shooting himself in the foot.

I hope he does. If he does, it will be a made-for-TV moment, but not the kind he likes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 18, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
Looks like Volker lied about knowing about Bursima and Biden during his closed door testimony---will be curious as to how he responds this afternoon.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 18, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
Wow, that's something. Got a link?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 18, 2019, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 18, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
Wow, that's something. Got a link?

You bet---here's the side-by-side comparison between his testimony and the others:

https://www.justsecurity.org/67314/chart-side-by-side-comparison-of-kurt-volkers-vs-other-witnesses-testimony-in-impeachment-inquiry/


ETA: the scribd link in question if you want to skip the article: https://www.scribd.com/document/435619269/Chart-Side-By-side-Comparison-of-Ambassador-Kurt-Volker-vs-Other-Witnesses-Testimony-Ukraine-Impeachment-Inquiry-Just-Security-Final#fullscreen&from_embed
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 18, 2019, 04:21:54 PM
 :lulz:

I can't even understand his reasoning here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 18, 2019, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 18, 2019, 04:21:54 PM
:lulz:

I can't even understand his reasoning here.

Protecting trump....but, well we're seeing how that's all playing out. Remember Cohen's warning?

Quote from: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/431843-cohen-warns-gop-lawmakers-protecting-trump-i-did-the-same-thingPresident Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen on Wednesday warned Republican lawmakers that the president's defenders will "suffer the same consequences that I'm suffering."

"I'm responsible for your silliness," Cohen said during public testimony before the House Oversight and Reform Committee. "I did the same thing that you're doing now for 10 years. I protected Mr. Trump for 10 years."

"I can only warn people, the more people that follow Mr. Trump as I did blindly are going to suffer the same consequences that I'm suffering," Cohen later added.

Also I'm sure the Stone verdict is probably rustling his jimmies about now.

Even draws a similar sentiment from Lev Parnas recenetly.

Quote from: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/nyregion/lev-parnas-giuliani-associate.html"We are willing to comply with the subpoena to the extent that it does not violate any appropriate privilege that Mr. Parnas may properly invoke," said Joseph A. Bondy, who along with Edward B. MacMahon, Jr. now represents Mr. Parnas.

Mr. Bondy said that given the federal criminal charges, his client may invoke his right under the Fifth Amendment not to incriminate himself.

The turnabout occurred after Mr. Trump denied knowing Mr. Parnas when he was arrested.

"Mr. Parnas was very upset by President Trump's plainly false statement that he did not know him," said Mr. Bondy, whose client has maintained that he has had extensive dealings with the president.

Parnas used to greatly admire trump much in the same way Cohen did. Referred to him as "The Big Guy" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/parnas-trump-special-mission-ukraine/index.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 18, 2019, 05:53:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 18, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
He won't. Remember when he was sooooo keen to talk with Muelller? This is the same line of bullshit.

Probably, but we can always hope the dementia progresses enough to make it happen. It's likely to be his best possible defence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 19, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
https://impeachment-trump.com/

A good site ran by a good person who has provided a very good account of these proceedings. She's pretty active on twitter but also takes the time to translate her threads to blog posts at the various sites of which this is one. Highly recommended if you want to keep track of all this crazy shit going on.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 04:41:36 PM
The army is now providing security to LTC Vindman and his family, may move his family on post.

https://apnews.com/683a784acc7b4d66be7d168086a59b67
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2019, 04:46:10 PM
Someone's been riling up the Qanon crazies something bad lately. Lots of "day of the rope" kinda talk going around, not specifically at Vindman, but it doesn't have to be for him to get targeted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2019, 04:46:10 PM
Someone's been riling up the Qanon crazies something bad lately. Lots of "day of the rope" kinda talk going around, not specifically at Vindman, but it doesn't have to be for him to get targeted.

Well, yeah.  It would not be unusual to have Vindman himself accompanied by another soldier, but the fact that his family now has a guard indicates that they've heard something they don't like.

Do you have a link to a sample of what the freaks are saying?  If it's FB, I can still look at it, but not until this evening.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2019, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 19, 2019, 04:46:10 PM
Someone's been riling up the Qanon crazies something bad lately. Lots of "day of the rope" kinda talk going around, not specifically at Vindman, but it doesn't have to be for him to get targeted.

Well, yeah.  It would not be unusual to have Vindman himself accompanied by another soldier, but the fact that his family now has a guard indicates that they've heard something they don't like.

Do you have a link to a sample of what the freaks are saying?  If it's FB, I can still look at it, but not until this evening.

No, they're mostly on Twitter. Here's a sample:

(https://i.imgur.com/CaXIcvs.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/YhDXIJa.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xxidYvg.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/613dKEE.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/CCbzCeZ.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2019, 06:18:02 PM
And it is worth noting that Trump Jr amplifying attacks on Vindman from Jack Posobiec, a noted Qanon promoter

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/politics/trump-vindman-twitter.html

QuoteOne day earlier, the right-wing commentator Jack Posobiec had retweeted a lengthy thread by a Florida man — a fan of QAnon, a fringe conspiracy about the "deep state" — claiming to have witnessed Colonel Vindman "bash America" in conversation with Russian officers during a joint military exercise in Germany in 2013.
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That accusation was unsubstantiated and has been rejected by some of the colonel's colleagues. Even so, Mr. Posobiec's post was retweeted by Mr. Trump's son and chief defender, Donald Trump Jr., driving it through conservative social media circles and onto pro-Trump websites, whose stories the younger Mr. Trump promoted to his four million followers.

"Anyone who's been watching for the past three years is not at all surprised that this would be their 'star witness,'" Donald Jr. posted about Colonel Vindman, who had testified that he was concerned about the United States' linking of military aid to Ukraine with an investigation of Mr. Trump's political rival.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2019, 06:21:29 PM
I have to sleep in the same country as these freaks.

This is a little alarming.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 05:33:42 PM
Buses, the throwing underneath of:

Trump throwing Sondland under:

https://apnews.com/b74ecde0b8904f42b2d7018b308c60ce

Sondland pulling Trump with him:

https://apnews.com/6486944b076b4df99a583a3a7c85574d
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 05:38:10 PM
And now for something REALLY important.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/7c11ab4ff61545429c834431a1701dca
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2019, 05:57:56 PM
Sondland threw everyone under a bus. There are now grounds for impeaching Pence and Pompeo as well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 06:03:12 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2019, 05:57:56 PM
Sondland threw everyone under a bus. There are now grounds for impeaching Pence and Pompeo as well.

This will continue to get funnier.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2019, 06:07:35 PM
QuoteSondland is asked if he disputes he told Trump that Zelensky "loves your ass." His response? "Sounds like something I would say."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
From Kellyanne Conway's husband

(https://i.imgur.com/YfkPhNx.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2019, 06:14:00 PM
From Kellyanne Conway's husband

(https://i.imgur.com/YfkPhNx.png)

It's a thing of beauty, really.  Couldn't happen to a nicer prick.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 06:39:58 PM
Steal a Big Mac, go to jail for life.

Steal $300,000+, this happens:

https://apnews.com/c3057763847f4364b46df2f55162c0e4

Using the exact same morality, steal billions, you get to be president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 20, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
The wheels on the bus go thump thump thump,
       Thump thump thump,
                  Thump thump thump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 20, 2019, 07:02:37 PM
This is brilliant. Hard to see how it could get worse for them.

But it will. I can smell the acceleration. This is the start of the ride.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 07:03:29 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 20, 2019, 07:02:37 PM
This is brilliant. Hard to see how it could get worse for them.

But it will. I can smell the acceleration. This is the start of the ride.

All this needs to be perfect is like 10 pounds of glitter fished out of a raver's ass crack.  This is the Goddamn future I was promised.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 20, 2019, 07:04:32 PM
This is more future than I ordered and by god am I pleased.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 07:05:01 PM
https://apnews.com/1688c5709a804fee93058273d5fdb24f

Now we just have to wait for the inevitable proof that the conversation DID happen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 07:16:01 PM
Prophecy:  Pompeo will die in jail.

https://apnews.com/b731ce4910864402ab9be8cb81a8e7d8
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 09:37:22 PM
Whoopsie! 

https://apnews.com/8cc0b87ca4d24ffdbf71ac52ce3c2f2b

This is a trap.  For someone.  It's impossible to tell who, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 20, 2019, 10:17:41 PM
Oh yeah, that's suspect as fuck. Remember, Barr has been purging the FBI of agents seen as "disloyal" to the President.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 20, 2019, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 20, 2019, 10:17:41 PM
Oh yeah, that's suspect as fuck. Remember, Barr has been purging the FBI of agents seen as "disloyal" to the President.

Which could ALSO mean that the FBI has their backs up and want some shit to throw on Barr.

No matter what, whistleblower boy better keep his fucking head down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 21, 2019, 12:12:55 AM
Geeeez it now the United States of Bratva
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 02:19:05 AM
And Trump has now gone full potato.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/cnn-trump-wants-impeachment-witnesses-fired-despite-top-aides-warning
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 02:22:45 AM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: This cannot end well. For anyone.

We are all going down on this ship.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 21, 2019, 03:54:56 AM
Any comment I made on the image below would be superfluous.

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ee4d60b9-f9ee-4b41-9aae-cfc4e2d4fc10.jpg)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/h_ef1ea69416e83b474dd18f98c53649dc
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 21, 2019, 04:06:43 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 21, 2019, 03:54:56 AM
Any comment I made on the image below would be superfluous.

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ee4d60b9-f9ee-4b41-9aae-cfc4e2d4fc10.jpg)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/h_ef1ea69416e83b474dd18f98c53649dc

https://twitter.com/skolanach/status/1197222768242151425?s=09
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 21, 2019, 04:13:17 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 21, 2019, 03:54:56 AM
Any comment I made on the image below would be superfluous.

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ee4d60b9-f9ee-4b41-9aae-cfc4e2d4fc10.jpg)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/h_ef1ea69416e83b474dd18f98c53649dc

THE NEW HOLIEST SYMBOL IS

THE BURNING CACTUS

BECAUSE ITS OMINOUS, UNNATURAL, AND FUCKING ABSURD

LIKE THE REST OF THIS ENTIRE UNIVERSE

AND SOME BRIGHT FUCKING SPARK WELDED THE DOORS CLOSED AND HID THE POWER TOOLS SO HANG ON TO YOUR UNDERPANTS ITS GOING DOWN
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
My only worry here is that with basically all of Trump's senior cabinet (ie; all the people without "Acting" in their titles) implicated in this, the GOP will have even less incentive to impeach.

Like, I could see some Senators maybe going along with it, because it is a strong case and because Trump is an idiot ruining their reelection chances. And while people keep freaking out about Pence being made President, everything I hear about the man is that he's in so far over his head he can't even see the surface anymore and will probably just do whatever he's told. Not to mention his political capital as someone handpicked by an impeached President would be practically nothing.

But if Pence is going to go down with Trump, well then that pesky order of succession comes into play. And we all know who's behind Pence...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 21, 2019, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 21, 2019, 03:54:56 AM
Any comment I made on the image below would be superfluous.

(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ee4d60b9-f9ee-4b41-9aae-cfc4e2d4fc10.jpg)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/h_ef1ea69416e83b474dd18f98c53649dc

I have a comment:

Someone made a font of his handwriting and is calling it "tiny hand". (https://www.fastcompany.com/3064790/donald-trumps-crazy-handwriting-is-now-a-free-font-called-tiny-hand)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:11:37 AM
My only worry here is that with basically all of Trump's senior cabinet (ie; all the people without "Acting" in their titles) implicated in this, the GOP will have even less incentive to impeach.

Like, I could see some Senators maybe going along with it, because it is a strong case and because Trump is an idiot ruining their reelection chances. And while people keep freaking out about Pence being made President, everything I hear about the man is that he's in so far over his head he can't even see the surface anymore and will probably just do whatever he's told. Not to mention his political capital as someone handpicked by an impeached President would be practically nothing.

But if Pence is going to go down with Trump, well then that pesky order of succession comes into play. And we all know who's behind Pence...

The senate will not convict.  That's not even a question.  The best we can do is keep him tied up with this shit until the timer runs out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
Also, it will be good to see which democrats vote to against the impeachment or vote not guilty in the senate trial.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 08:00:42 PM
Get you a woman that looks at you the way Fiona Hill looks at Trump.

https://apnews.com/b1c24927ea954c729381859ad90e25d6
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
Also, it will be good to see which democrats vote to against the impeachment or vote not guilty in the senate trial.

Well we know Gabbard will vote against it in the House.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 21, 2019, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 21, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
Also, it will be good to see which democrats vote to against the impeachment or vote not guilty in the senate trial.

Well we know Gabbard will vote against it in the House.

Well, yeah.  She's spent the last year jabbering about how unfair the Mueller thing was and how unfair the impeachment thing is, and has twice gone to Washington to sniff around for cabinet level jobs.

She is the Vidkun Quisling of the democratic party.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 22, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
I guess a whole murder of them met with trump yesterday:

@PaulaReidCBS :: .@CBSNews has learned this afternoon @realDonaldTrump is expected to have lunch with @MittRomney @SenatorCollins @ChuckGrassley @RandPaul @SenJohnHoeven @SenatorIsakson @SenatorLankford @SenCapito at the White House. @CBSNews ( http://tinyurl.com/wa4oalh )
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on November 22, 2019, 02:10:28 PM
I guess a whole murder of them met with trump yesterday:

@PaulaReidCBS :: .@CBSNews has learned this afternoon @realDonaldTrump is expected to have lunch with @MittRomney @SenatorCollins @ChuckGrassley @RandPaul @SenJohnHoeven @SenatorIsakson @SenatorLankford @SenCapito at the White House. @CBSNews ( http://tinyurl.com/wa4oalh )

They're gonna put the arm on Romney.  Expect him to have had "second thoughts" by tomorrow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:17:32 PM
Will Putin be there too?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:31:47 PM
Romney still wants to be president, real bad

I'm gonna toss a chip on the square that says Romney has been playing for Trump's fall since 2015, so that when the house of cards falls down he will remain standing as the obvious republican choice.

Where Romney goes says a lot about what's going on inside the citadel - if there's going to be an internal squabble, Romney will be on the far side of it. He has the most to gain from the air being farted out of Trump's balloon.


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
And I gotta say it again - I fucking LOVE voting against Mitt Romney.

I hope I get to do it in 2020.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:31:47 PM
Romney still wants to be president, real bad

I'm gonna toss a chip on the square that says Romney has been playing for Trump's fall since 2015, so that when the house of cards falls down he will remain standing as the obvious republican choice.

Where Romney goes says a lot about what's going on inside the citadel - if there's going to be an internal squabble, Romney will be on the far side of it. He has the most to gain from the air being farted out of Trump's balloon.

Given the choice, I'd take Romney.  He's an aristocrat and a crook, but he's at least somewhat sane.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:33:36 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
And I gotta say it again - I fucking LOVE voting against Mitt Romney.

I hope I get to do it in 2020.

Same.  But I think it's still gonna be the Mango Mussolini.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:37:52 PM
I should run.  I just want the political funding so I can put up "KISS MY ASS" billboards in all 50 states.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:43:42 PM
All of my press conferences will just be loops of The Tubes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-rEVVAw3-0

I will also have that hair.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on November 22, 2019, 02:44:02 PM
I can imagine a very unlikely future where there's a republican primary in 2020

in this strange world, I would happily register as a republican and vote for Mitt Romney, then vote against him in the General


givin myself goosebumps here


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
I would vote for Dok. "We're all gonna die so fuck it! 2020 apocalypse ftw bitches!!!"

TBH Romney is one of the few republicans who hasn't got shit on his hands from this blatant disgrace. Who would've thought some fat-ass blow-hard could come in and make this douche look squeeky clean by contrast?

EDIT: If you ever DO run for president, Dok, I got no job and nothing to do if you need some volunteer labor. Mental disabilities tend to free up one's schedule once everyone realizes it's not going to mysteriously get better someday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 02:47:47 PM
Unfortunately, Trump loyalists have also envisioned a 2020 primary run against him, which is why they have been busy rigging the mechanisms (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/republicans-cancel-primaries-trump-challengers-1483126) to prevent people from doing that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
I would vote for Dok. "We're all gonna die so fuck it! 2020 apocalypse ftw bitches!!!"

TBH Romney is one of the few republicans who hasn't got shit on his hands from this blatant disgrace. Who would've thought some fat-ass blow-hard could come in and make this douche look squeeky clean by contrast?

EDIT: If you ever DO run for president, Dok, I got no job and nothing to do if you need some volunteer labor. Mental disabilities tend to free up one's schedule once everyone realizes it's not going to mysteriously get better someday.

Can you yell "FUCK YOU!" and "SHUT UP!" at reporters like you mean it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:56:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2019, 02:47:47 PM
Unfortunately, Trump loyalists have also envisioned a 2020 primary run against him, which is why they have been busy rigging the mechanisms (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/republicans-cancel-primaries-trump-challengers-1483126) to prevent people from doing that.

I had noticed that, but it isn't unprecedented, IIRC.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 22, 2019, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
I would vote for Dok. "We're all gonna die so fuck it! 2020 apocalypse ftw bitches!!!"

TBH Romney is one of the few republicans who hasn't got shit on his hands from this blatant disgrace. Who would've thought some fat-ass blow-hard could come in and make this douche look squeeky clean by contrast?

EDIT: If you ever DO run for president, Dok, I got no job and nothing to do if you need some volunteer labor. Mental disabilities tend to free up one's schedule once everyone realizes it's not going to mysteriously get better someday.

Can you yell "FUCK YOU!" and "SHUT UP!" at reporters like you mean it?

Oh MAN if you need TWO lunatics I can yell FUCK YOU and I have the kind of yell that puts people on their heels and causes dogs to run away, and I never get to use it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 22, 2019, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
I would vote for Dok. "We're all gonna die so fuck it! 2020 apocalypse ftw bitches!!!"

TBH Romney is one of the few republicans who hasn't got shit on his hands from this blatant disgrace. Who would've thought some fat-ass blow-hard could come in and make this douche look squeeky clean by contrast?

EDIT: If you ever DO run for president, Dok, I got no job and nothing to do if you need some volunteer labor. Mental disabilities tend to free up one's schedule once everyone realizes it's not going to mysteriously get better someday.

Can you yell "FUCK YOU!" and "SHUT UP!" at reporters like you mean it?

Oh MAN if you need TWO lunatics I can yell FUCK YOU and I have the kind of yell that puts people on their heels and causes dogs to run away, and I never get to use it

I need enough lunatics to issue smack downs at other people's rallies.  Not equal numbers, necessarily.  If you hit an unprepared crowd in a fast-moving wedge, you can count on the chaos to act as an equalizer.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 22, 2019, 02:47:43 PM
I would vote for Dok. "We're all gonna die so fuck it! 2020 apocalypse ftw bitches!!!"

TBH Romney is one of the few republicans who hasn't got shit on his hands from this blatant disgrace. Who would've thought some fat-ass blow-hard could come in and make this douche look squeeky clean by contrast?

EDIT: If you ever DO run for president, Dok, I got no job and nothing to do if you need some volunteer labor. Mental disabilities tend to free up one's schedule once everyone realizes it's not going to mysteriously get better someday.

Can you yell "FUCK YOU!" and "SHUT UP!" at reporters like you mean it?

SHUT, UP YOU USELESS FUCKWIT! GO STICK YOUR DICK IN A SANDWICH SO I CAN BITE IT OFF! AND FURTHERMORE, FUCK YOU!

Just no cabinet positions or anything, I don't want to walk into that given past embarrassments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 22, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
I, on the other hand, will take cabinet positions too, because I'll hire advisors who know their shit, and will ask them to help me figure out policy positions based not on how things Should Be but on how people will react.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 04:03:22 PM
Ever see an actual kiss of death?  Well, you have now.

https://apnews.com/9ff37e5449b14f5e8084b2a391adf9f2
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 04:16:07 PM
In other news, Bolton has recently fired up his Twitter account, with a teasing promise to "stay tuned".

This story also just dropped https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-bolton-allies-cut-out-three-amigos-for-direct-line-of-communication-to-ukraine?ref=wrap
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2019, 04:16:07 PM
In other news, Bolton has recently fired up his Twitter account, with a teasing promise to "stay tuned".

This story also just dropped https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-bolton-allies-cut-out-three-amigos-for-direct-line-of-communication-to-ukraine?ref=wrap

This is getting more and more funny.

And just like Nixon, Trump snatched disaster from the jaws of triumph because he was too damn paranoid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on November 22, 2019, 04:50:53 PM
Unlike Nixon, I think Trump has the stones to bring EVERYONE down with him.

If he comes out with one single solitary black mark on his reputation, he'll torch the place. Mark my fucking words.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: nullified on November 22, 2019, 04:50:53 PM
Unlike Nixon, I think Trump has the stones to bring EVERYONE down with him.

If he comes out with one single solitary black mark on his reputation, he'll torch the place. Mark my fucking words.

You're not wrong.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 05:33:56 PM
https://apnews.com/f836decb6f2444fcb897df27279aa345

QuoteBut he repeated his assertion that Ukrainians might have hacked the Democratic National Committee's network in 2016 and framed Russia for the crime, a theory his own advisers have dismissed.

:whack:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 06:54:49 PM
This was a conspiracy theory invented by the Russians btw. It's literally Russian agitprop.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2019, 06:54:49 PM
This was a conspiracy theory invented by the Russians btw. It's literally Russian agitprop.

That just improves their score, I'd say.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 07:16:37 PM
Curiouser and curiouser.

https://apnews.com/4bae0513e28647c59b74bcf51f7550a5

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is withholding more than $100 million in U.S. military assistance to Lebanon that has been approved by Congress and is favored by his national security team, an assertion of executive control of foreign aid that is similar to the delay in support for Ukraine at the center of the impeachment inquiry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 09:17:26 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say that they were hoping that the Lebanese government is going to fall to the current round of protests and are hoping that will shunt Hezbollah out of the political system at least temporarily. Watch if they do something similar in Iraq.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 22, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
Well well well...isn't this interesting?

(https://i.imgur.com/1q1nBJr.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 22, 2019, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 22, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
Well well well...isn't this interesting?

(https://i.imgur.com/1q1nBJr.png)

Bolton has something planned.  I can smell it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 23, 2019, 12:34:46 AM
He's been teasing all day. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped something tomorrow in time for the Sunday politics shows (I'm assuming you have those, like we do in the UK)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on November 23, 2019, 02:44:27 AM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: omgcantbrea :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
(https://i.imgur.com/61YQRXD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1CWMixT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0JhlVpB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IUqkMto.png)

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2019, 04:54:39 AM
Trump's making friends again.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/7902f59c504d427ca89a9bd3484a207d
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 25, 2019, 07:13:21 AM
All one need do to make friends with Trump is sufficiently kiss his ass. Has to be a major weak point there that has thus far remained insufficiently exploited.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 26, 2019, 03:04:04 AM
DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/mcgahn-testimony-ruling.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on November 26, 2019, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on November 23, 2019, 02:44:27 AM
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: omgcantbrea :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
(https://i.imgur.com/61YQRXD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1CWMixT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0JhlVpB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IUqkMto.png)

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html

PLEASE let this be the final nail in this fucker's coffin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on November 26, 2019, 08:24:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 26, 2019, 03:04:04 AM
DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/mcgahn-testimony-ruling.html
:popcorn:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
It looks like Trump has decided that war crimes are the next thing that needs to be drawn into the ever-expanding culture wars.

He wants to go campaigning alongside that murdering piece of shit SEAL.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on November 26, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
This is a wild time to be alive.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 26, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 26, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
It looks like Trump has decided that war crimes are the next thing that needs to be drawn into the ever-expanding culture wars.

He wants to go campaigning alongside that murdering piece of shit SEAL.

Joe the murdering plumber?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 02, 2019, 09:00:05 PM
Heyyyyyy... :lulz:

https://apnews.com/01194743767948599f8007b4da663255

QuoteSAO PAULO (AP) — Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's U.S.-focused foreign policy efforts suffered a severe setback on Monday when his American counterpart Donald Trump pledged to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum on the South American nation.

Trump initially leveled the threat by Twitter while accusing Brazil and neighboring Argentina, governed by U.S. allies Bolsonaro and Mauricio Macri, of manipulating their currencies and hurting American farmers.

Brazil's vice president denied the accusation, but Bolsonaro, who openly admires Trump, was reticent; the far-right politician said he could call Trump "if needed."

Argentina's production and labor minister, Dante Sica, said Trump's announcement caught policymakers by surprise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on December 02, 2019, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 02, 2019, 09:00:05 PM
Heyyyyyy... :lulz:

https://apnews.com/01194743767948599f8007b4da663255

QuoteSAO PAULO (AP) — Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's U.S.-focused foreign policy efforts suffered a severe setback on Monday when his American counterpart Donald Trump pledged to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum on the South American nation.

Trump initially leveled the threat by Twitter while accusing Brazil and neighboring Argentina, governed by U.S. allies Bolsonaro and Mauricio Macri, of manipulating their currencies and hurting American farmers.

Brazil's vice president denied the accusation, but Bolsonaro, who openly admires Trump, was reticent; the far-right politician said he could call Trump "if needed."

Argentina's production and labor minister, Dante Sica, said Trump's announcement caught policymakers by surprise.

It's funny how the position for boot-licking is so close to the one used for curb-stomping.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 02, 2019, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 02, 2019, 11:45:35 PM

It's funny how the position for boot-licking is so close to the one used for curb-stomping.

NEWSFEED.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:20:40 AM
Done
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 03, 2019, 12:29:56 AM
Jesus Christ Johnny FUCKING STRUCK LIKE LIGHTNING
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 12:32:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:20:40 AM
Done

So now it's in twice.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
Twice as much bootlicking means twice as much stomping (it didn't show up twice when I just checked...maybe the forum auto-deletes duplicates)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 12:51:55 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
Twice as much bootlicking means twice as much stomping (it didn't show up twice when I just checked...maybe the forum auto-deletes duplicates)

I replaced one of mine somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 12:58:29 AM
Ah, well, I didn't look there.

Oh well, doesnt matter. We have so many anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on December 03, 2019, 01:52:38 AM

:)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 02:03:36 PM
GUISE:

Trump is very hurt by Macron's comments about NATO, which he says were "disrespectful".  :cry:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 02:26:25 PM
You wouldn't catch Trump making disrespectful comments about NATO
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 03, 2019, 02:36:59 PM
My brain just about dropped out of my head when I heard that this morning.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on December 03, 2019, 02:52:44 PM
It seems ridiculous until you realise that he has zero memory of making those disparaging comments in the past, or for that matter, any memory of yesterday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 03, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Well, it's like his comments today about the NHS. Despite there being video evidence, from only a few months ago, that he said "the NHS would definitely be on the table", he's now saying "I wouldn't want to touch the NHS if you offered it on a silver platter".

The truth literally means nothing to him beyond whatever is expedient at the moment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
Trump decides on full potato trade war with EU.

https://apnews.com/22ca05cfc2a040d796d492aeaea770ad
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 03, 2019, 08:16:24 PM
Impeachment document has been released.

https://apnews.com/2aad68c64968dc6f1a450052bbadb90f
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 05, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
Hubris is a thing.

https://apnews.com/369498e4f3904d82ad88d90774c70534

QuoteKYIV, Ukraine (AP) — President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was in Ukraine on Thursday, reviving the efforts that landed him and Trump in the impeachment inquiry now roiling Washington.

Also, looks like articles of impeachment.

https://apnews.com/6ea344e9bf24d8a8b64c20a305c14305
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 05, 2019, 08:26:37 PM
Prediction: Giuliani ends up Trump's new bus bottom scrubber and nothing else comes of this. Giuliani gets mad, plays a card he had been holding onto and fails to make it stick among those who care. Ends up begging for forgiveness and continuing his current job of fucking himself in the ass in Europe, and again, nothing comes of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on December 10, 2019, 01:51:22 PM
What the shit?  Steele and Ivanka knew each other for years before he wrote the dossier. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dossier-author-chris-steele-met-ivanka-trump-years/story?id=67597270)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 10, 2019, 01:54:37 PM
An interesting twist, though probably not a relevant one.

Steele was a spy. Spies collect contacts the way other people collect stamps...slightly obsessively, and with an eye for detail.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on December 10, 2019, 06:14:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2019, 01:51:22 PM
What the shit?  Steele and Ivanka knew each other for years before he wrote the dossier. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dossier-author-chris-steele-met-ivanka-trump-years/story?id=67597270)

Were they ever lovers?

Does President Trump now get to act out his daughter having an orgasm at one of his rallies?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 10, 2019, 06:55:31 PM
So, two articles of impeachment.  Obstruction and abuse of power.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on December 10, 2019, 07:05:01 PM
For now i hope...hard to think they wouldnt want to wait for the SCOTUS ruling on Deutsche Bank and the 2 Mazars cases.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 10, 2019, 07:12:38 PM
It's in their best interests to drag the process out.

The more they can make this the impeachment election, the better.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on December 11, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
Aaaand 45's campaign staff released a cringe video of him as Thanos.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/trump-releases-video-of-him-as-thanos-the-villain-who-commits-genocide
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on December 11, 2019, 04:23:48 PM
Oh boy, The Mouse wont like that, and The Mouse crushed bigger people for less.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on December 11, 2019, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Juana on December 11, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
Aaaand 45's campaign staff released a cringe video of him as Thanos.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/trump-releases-video-of-him-as-thanos-the-villain-who-commits-genocide

Welcome to 2020, where even the spin doctors suck at their job and get millions paid for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 16, 2019, 02:51:10 PM
This impeachment slog so far is like sitting in the dentist's office in a prison, and the waiting room TV just shows that scene from Schindler's list where the little girl's jacket is moving along the conveyor.

Everyone on both sides thinks they're doomed, and everyone is right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on December 18, 2019, 01:01:41 AM
Yep. One of those moments where it really should be worth it to watch CSPAN but alas, it is not.

Also:
QuoteChinese authorities have granted preliminary approval for dozens of Trump-branded businesses, expanding his commercial empire and raising further conflicts of interest, say lawyers. (http://"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html?fbclid=IwAR3PTynqwq_OgpaaWPj2i_I_GjCQpWo5IcXj18VNaRDOs9AzTQMGnZfEkL0")

The 38 trademarks include new hotels, spas, escort and concierge services, massage parlors, personal security services and insurance, according to public documents.
Talk about him being God's Chosen, huh?  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 19, 2019, 03:17:01 AM
Impeachment passed on both charges.

https://apnews.com/d78192d45b176f73ad435ae9fb926ed3

Gabbard, of course, voted "present."   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 19, 2019, 03:25:08 AM
Gabbard is a horrible little creature that I distrust more than the Republicans.

You know what they'll do in any given situation. Gabbard is a scheming asshole who will take the unexpected road so she can knock you over the cliff.

I'm hoping she, oh, maybe breaks an ankle. Or ends up saying something that is political poison to both sides.

But there is no such luck, and we all know it. This impeachment was a forgone conclusion, as is the Senate using any possible method to shoot it down, as is Tulsi making a point of being the biggest grinning "well actually" centrist piece of filth you can find.

We are all doomed, and it will not even be properly hilarious because the joke has been told before and it wasn't insistent or rapid enough for the repetition to be the funny part.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on December 19, 2019, 05:14:04 AM
Obviously she's hoping that Bannon can still wrangle her a Cabinet position in Trump's next administration.

Also worth pointing out, all that horrible shit currently going down in India? The media blackout, stripping people of citizenship, the heavy-handed security crackdown and very likely building of concentration camps for those same people? She supports that political party.

She's a fascist, pure and simple.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 19, 2019, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 19, 2019, 05:14:04 AM
Obviously she's hoping that Bannon can still wrangle her a Cabinet position in Trump's next administration.

Also worth pointing out, all that horrible shit currently going down in India? The media blackout, stripping people of citizenship, the heavy-handed security crackdown and very likely building of concentration camps for those same people? She supports that political party.

She's a fascist, pure and simple.

She voted with Ted Cruz to leave Syrian refugees to die.  Nothing about her shocks me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on December 19, 2019, 07:58:14 PM
I hadn't been paying attention to her at all, really. Jesus fuck.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on December 20, 2019, 07:30:18 PM
She's a politically ambitious, intelligent, power hungry fascist willing to throw out norms and traditions to further her own political career. Failing that she gets to be a regular on fox news complaining about the corrupt dems.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on December 25, 2019, 05:14:22 AM
https://snowflakevictory.com/ (https://snowflakevictory.com/)

Wat...

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on December 26, 2019, 01:57:49 AM
it's the opposite of the memebomb database. It's a database of phrases to reduce the feeling of cognitive dissonance.

There is a lot that is pitiful about this but all I can conjure is a man wearing a Trump hat and mumbling these phrases to himself and nodding, alone in a dark room, drinking cheap beer after being banished from the Christmas party for being a confrontational asshole after everyone said not to do that, please.

My Christmas, to be fair, is playing video games in a dark room by myself, but I chose that and DO NOT regret it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on December 26, 2019, 04:24:22 AM
I looked to see if anyone had put up a site debunking that site, but no luck. I guess it's hard to debunk something somebody just made up.

I guess the old standby "Everything you just said is bullshit. You're human garbage, uncle Glenn and I just want you to know that even though I won't be going, I am still looking forward to your funeral." does the job well enough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on January 03, 2020, 06:03:43 AM
Sooo...fuck
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
Fuck indeed. Al-Sadr just reactivated the Mahdi Army.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: altered on December 26, 2019, 01:57:49 AM
it's the opposite of the memebomb database. It's a database of phrases to reduce the feeling of cognitive dissonance.

There is a lot that is pitiful about this but all I can conjure is a man wearing a Trump hat and mumbling these phrases to himself and nodding, alone in a dark room, drinking cheap beer after being banished from the Christmas party for being a confrontational asshole after everyone said not to do that, please.

My Christmas, to be fair, is playing video games in a dark room by myself, but I chose that and DO NOT regret it.

Thing is, you have to make an EFFORT to join the Transgression Olympics.  Then they cry when they're all alone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 03, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
Fuck indeed. Al-Sadr just reactivated the Mahdi Army.

Heeeeeeeeere weeeeeeee GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 03, 2020, 01:55:39 PM
So what are we thinking in terms of retaliation... infrastructure cyber attacks? Bases? IEDs?

All of the above?

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 02:01:48 PM
I think they're going to use Iraq as a launching ground for attacks against American forces. Assassinations, bombings, ambushes...

American reactions will be over the top, public and drive Iraqi public opinion against the Americans even further.

On top of that, I expect attacks in Syria and hacking attacks etc as well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 03, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
Fuck indeed. Al-Sadr just reactivated the Mahdi Army.

Heeeeeeeeere weeeeeeee GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The best thing is though people keep coding Al-Sadr as a Shia militant, he's an Iraqi nationalist. He doesn't like Iranian interferring either. This was avoidable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 02:32:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 03, 2020, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 03, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
Fuck indeed. Al-Sadr just reactivated the Mahdi Army.

Heeeeeeeeere weeeeeeee GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The best thing is though people keep coding Al-Sadr as a Shia militant, he's an Iraqi nationalist. He doesn't like Iranian interferring either. This was avoidable.

Nothing is avoidable right now.  Not in Iraq, not with Brexit, not with our big orange fart.  The time to avoid these things was BEFORE we elected maniacs and drooling idiots.

Now we're buckled in for the ride.  woop
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 02:46:48 PM
Yeah, avoidable in the sense of "if we weren't complete morons". Which, of course, we are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 03, 2020, 02:51:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/u5QQdK9.png)

https://forensicnews.net/2019/12/30/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-underwritten-by-russian-state-owned-bank-whistleblower-told-fbi/

Now all Trump needs is a heavy distraction.... Oh wait...

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.

He simply wanted to destroy one of Obama's accomplishments.

Spite eschaton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 03, 2020, 10:20:16 PM
To be fair if I had to choose an eschaton, spite seems like a good one
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 03, 2020, 10:22:24 PM
Spite Eschaton would be a great album or band name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 03, 2020, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.

He simply wanted to destroy one of Obama's accomplishments.

Spite eschaton.

When I look at eschaton in print, I always see a kind of embedded ""shat upon".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 04, 2020, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.

He simply wanted to destroy one of Obama's accomplishments.

Spite eschaton.

Apparently, there was some eenie meenie miney moe involved, as well.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani

QuoteWASHINGTON —  When President Trump's national security team came to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Monday, they weren't expecting him to approve an operation to kill Gen. Qassem Suleimani.
Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had gone to Palm Beach to brief Trump on airstrikes the Pentagon had just carried out in Iraq and Syria against Iranian-sponsored Shiite militia groups.

One briefing slide shown to Trump listed several follow-up steps the U.S. could take, among them targeting Suleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the discussions who was not authorized to talk about the meeting on the record.

Unexpectedly, Trump chose that option, the official said, adding that the president's decision was spurred on in part by Iran hawks among his advisors.

That meant the Pentagon suddenly faced the daunting task of carrying out Trump's orders.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 04, 2020, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: kiss my axe on January 03, 2020, 10:55:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.

He simply wanted to destroy one of Obama's accomplishments.

Spite eschaton.

When I look at eschaton in print, I always see a kind of embedded ""shat upon".

I see "escutcheon" because I use those at work.

It's the nameplate for a knob that tells what the knob does, but also... something to do with pubic hair, apparently?

English is weird.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 04, 2020, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 04, 2020, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 03, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: Bruno on January 03, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
I just have to wonder if someone advised trump to do this, or if he came up with the idea all on his own.

He simply wanted to destroy one of Obama's accomplishments.

Spite eschaton.

Apparently, there was some eenie meenie miney moe involved, as well.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-03/how-trump-made-the-decision-to-kill-suleimani

QuoteWASHINGTON —  When President Trump's national security team came to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Monday, they weren't expecting him to approve an operation to kill Gen. Qassem Suleimani.
Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had gone to Palm Beach to brief Trump on airstrikes the Pentagon had just carried out in Iraq and Syria against Iranian-sponsored Shiite militia groups.

One briefing slide shown to Trump listed several follow-up steps the U.S. could take, among them targeting Suleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the discussions who was not authorized to talk about the meeting on the record.

Unexpectedly, Trump chose that option, the official said, adding that the president's decision was spurred on in part by Iran hawks among his advisors.

That meant the Pentagon suddenly faced the daunting task of carrying out Trump's orders.

Indeed. It's like they learned nothing from that Yemen raid in 2017.

Although, the Daily Beast is reporting that business partners and members at Mar-a-Lago were informed that "something big" would be happening in Iran in the next few days, before Congress was.

QuoteIn the five days prior to launching a strike that killed Iran's most important military leader, Donald Trump roamed the halls of Mar-a-Lago, his private resort in Florida, and started dropping hints to close associates and club-goers that something huge was coming.

According to three people who've been at the president's Palm Beach club over the past several days, Trump began telling friends and allies hanging at his perennial vacation getaway that he was working on a "big" response to the Iranian regime that they would be hearing or reading about very "soon." His comments went beyond the New Year's Eve tweet he sent out warning of the "big price" Iran would pay for damage to U.S. facilities. Two of these sources tell The Daily Beast that the president specifically mentioned he'd been in close contact with his top national security and military advisers on gaming out options for an aggressive action that could quickly materialize.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 04, 2020, 01:07:23 PM
This would also line up with reporting that US intelligence didn't know where Soleimani actually was, when Trump came back to them demanding that option and had to scramble to find him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 04, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 04, 2020, 09:10:24 PM

Idk, psychological projection is a thing of its own.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 05, 2020, 01:56:50 AM
Has he ever written a tweet about Obama that hasn't aged like milk?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
I see the President was having a Very Normal One last night, threatening to commit war crimes in attacking Iran (cultural and civilian targets were both mentioned).

Meanwhile, Iraq today is having a vote on removing the American military presence from the country. In addition to the Shi'a parties there is a powerful Kurdish block of parties whom have cordial relations with Iran, so this could very possibly end up passing. Anything that happens today will only be a draft law, subject to revision, but it may be a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2020, 03:44:41 PM
Bill passed, btw.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 05, 2020, 07:37:42 PM
No surprises there.

Oh, fuck. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/middleeast/iran-soleimani-nuclear-deal-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/middleeast/iran-soleimani-nuclear-deal-intl/index.html)

Daily Fail. Real or no? I'm looking for a silver lining...https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7853703/Iran-threatens-attack-White-House-crushing-powerful-retaliation.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7853703/Iran-threatens-attack-White-House-crushing-powerful-retaliation.html)

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2020, 09:40:10 PM
There's reports that Suleimani was in Iraq at the invitation of the PM, to discuss deescalation between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 05, 2020, 11:43:19 PM
Trump reaffirming or making true every stereotype the middle east has thrown at the U.S
This is so fucking grim, especially because it all feels like pantomime to distract from his other shortcomings
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 05, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/641157422567653381/663497933810958346/82024453_10157835587429393_5260096488075165696_n.png)

So either the Saudis set him up for assassination, or the US killed someone who was potentially defusing one of the most dangerously fraught relationships in the region.

Neither looks good.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 06, 2020, 01:20:52 AM
Nope, but either way is deeply American, no?


I'm kind of wondering if our allies will play ball. He's certainly alienated the fuck out of pretty much everybody. I'm hoping not bc I'd think we'd be less likely to actually go to war if no one else will be on our team. This is entirely speculation but while we like the image of being the Lone Ranger, idk if the Pentagon will be willing to do this if we're really on our own. I dunno if they wanna do this anyway. The resignations suggest that's the case.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 06, 2020, 03:22:10 AM
Wow.  :lulz:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/trump-threatens-to-slap-sanctions-on-iraq-like-theyve-never-seen-before.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2020, 03:27:35 AM
Hah, suck it Iraqis! You're going to have to buy all your American oil at double the price now!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 06, 2020, 04:49:36 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/trump-says-twitter-posts-notify-congress-he-will-strike-back-against-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/trump-says-twitter-posts-notify-congress-he-will-strike-back-against-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true)

  :rush:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 06, 2020, 05:25:04 AM
Quote from: kiss my axe on January 06, 2020, 04:49:36 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/trump-says-twitter-posts-notify-congress-he-will-strike-back-against-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/05/trump-says-twitter-posts-notify-congress-he-will-strike-back-against-iran.html?__twitter_impression=true)

  :rush:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/politics/trump-war-tweet-iran/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 06, 2020, 07:47:06 AM
Check out this new email Donnie just sent out:

QuoteANOTHER dead terrorist He died like a coward.

Recently, a team of U.S. Special Forces soldiers killed top Iranian terrorist leader Qasem Soleimani.

Soleimani was a monster responsible for THOUSANDS of American deaths, and the world is a better place without him in it.

This served as a reminder of two important things.
America has the greatest military on Earth
Terrorists have NO place in our world
While radical Democrats like Elizabeth Warren, Ilhan Omar, and Bernie Sanders are busy criticizing me for eliminating a deadly terrorist, my administration is busy keeping our promise to support our military and put America FIRST.

We know that Democrats and the FAKE NEWS will never give us credit for all we've done to combat terrorism, but I'm more interested in what REAL Americans like you think.

Take the Official Trump Military Survey TODAY to let me know what you think of my leadership as Commander-in-Chief. >>

Do you believe America has the greatest military in the world?

        YES       

        NO       

Being Commander in Chief is the highest calling of any American President, and I take that duty very seriously.

That is why I will ALWAYS put AMERICA FIRST and stand firmly behind the courageous men and women who risk their lives to defend our freedom.

My team is sending me the responses first thing tomorrow morning, so be sure to respond NOW.

Please take the Official Trump Military Survey before 11:59 PM TONIGHT to make sure I see your response.

Thank you,

[President Trump Signature Headshot]
Donald J. Trump
President of the United States


TAKE THE SURVEY NOW

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 06, 2020, 09:37:55 AM
Signed,

Terrorist in Chief,
DJT
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 06, 2020, 04:48:50 PM
I'm glad to see The Donald has embraced the idea that legitimate and authorised state actors can also be terrorists.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 06, 2020, 05:58:42 PM
Unfortunately hypocrisy is also one of their core tenants, which they learned from their orange hive mother.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 06, 2020, 08:06:43 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics/john-bolton-testify-impeachment-subpoena/index.html

Bolton says he will now testify in the senate if subpoenaed. 

Either he's ready to let Trump off the hook because of the Iran thing, or he thinks the war is inevitable now under anyone, and so now he can get payback on Trump for Trump back-handing him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 06, 2020, 08:52:21 PM
given that he waited for the [already fucked] senate hearing + the timing of the iran developments, I'm not optimistic
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 07, 2020, 04:39:56 AM
True.
But we have another assload of unhinged tweets to look forward to.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/trump-esper-iran-cultural-sites.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/trump-esper-iran-cultural-sites.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 03:39:38 PM
What actually happens when you get a "million man march".

https://apnews.com/add7a702258b4419d796aa5f48e577fc

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 03:41:48 PM
From a link embedded in that article, concerning the 2015 Hadj disaster:

Quote"It's largely a physical phenomenon, not a psychological one," says Dirk Helbing, a professor of computational social science at ETH Zurich, who has studied crowds and disasters.

When the density is too high, movements of a body "transfers forces to other bodies. These forces can add up and create uncontrollable movements in the crowd," he said Thursday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 08:14:31 PM
Annnnnd Romney wimped out again.

CALLED IT.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
"Because we've taken ourselves so far outside of — it's not even mainstream, we're not even near a stream," he said. "We're just kind of standing in the middle of nowhere with Donald Trump screaming at us."
- Michael Steel, former RNC chairman
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2020, 10:05:03 PM
It sure is a shame that the Chairman of the RNC has no power whatsoever and so he couldn't do anything about it while in office.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 07, 2020, 10:05:03 PM
It sure is a shame that the Chairman of the RNC has no power whatsoever and so he couldn't do anything about it while in office.

Yeah, but he's free to mush-mouth about consequences now, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2020, 10:22:18 PM
Naturally, much like Boehner did.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 08, 2020, 12:19:18 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 03:39:38 PM
What actually happens when you get a "million man march".

https://apnews.com/add7a702258b4419d796aa5f48e577fc

"We tell our enemies that we will retaliate but if they take another action we will set ablaze the places that they like and are passionate about,"

Sounds like basically the same threat Trump made, to bomb cultural sites.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 08, 2020, 12:27:09 AM
Iran's launching short-range ballistic missiles against US targets in Iraq.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 08, 2020, 12:54:57 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 08, 2020, 12:27:09 AM
Iran's launching short-range ballistic missiles against US targets in Iraq.

Very sloppy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 08, 2020, 01:35:46 AM
Isn't Putin in the area meeting with Assad and Erdogan? That seems...convenient... for a thing
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 08, 2020, 01:54:58 AM
The strikes do seem mostly symbolic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 08, 2020, 02:02:13 AM
Then there's this angle...
https://twitter.com/voweler/status/1213982459177517056?s=19

(https://i.imgur.com/444PqQV.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 08, 2020, 02:05:58 AM
The world is burning and I am laughing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on January 08, 2020, 07:05:07 AM
As a dude once pinned on the ground with my feet under my back for the better part of Thieves at a Ministry live show, I can attest to this effect.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 07, 2020, 03:41:48 PM
From a link embedded in that article, concerning the 2015 Hadj disaster:

Quote"It's largely a physical phenomenon, not a psychological one," says Dirk Helbing, a professor of computational social science at ETH Zurich, who has studied crowds and disasters.

When the density is too high, movements of a body "transfers forces to other bodies. These forces can add up and create uncontrollable movements in the crowd," he said Thursday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2020, 07:02:24 PM
This article contains rank stupidity and also one of the best bad Trump pics of all time.

https://apnews.com/6023802f1743d5e0f375e83040bbe26f
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 09, 2020, 07:09:29 PM
Oh dear.

Oh dear.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2020, 07:09:29 PM
Oh dear.

Oh dear.

He needs to stop hogging up all the drugs.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 09, 2020, 11:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2020, 07:09:29 PM
Oh dear.

Oh dear.

He needs to stop hogging up all the drugs.


Quote"We did Europe a big favor," [Trump] said.
Kissy Kissy Trump needs to for god's sake stop helping us goddamned europeans ffs we are having a shitty enough trot as it is!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
Quote from: MMIX on January 09, 2020, 11:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 09, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 09, 2020, 07:09:29 PM
Oh dear.

Oh dear.

He needs to stop hogging up all the drugs.


Quote"We did Europe a big favor," [Trump] said.
Kissy Kissy Trump needs to for god's sake stop helping us goddamned europeans ffs we are having a shitty enough trot as it is!

The more he's helping you, the less he's helping us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 10, 2020, 12:18:53 AM
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SniffyMcAdderall&src=trend_click&pt=1215097279348117504 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SniffyMcAdderall&src=trend_click&pt=1215097279348117504)  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

This will probably have no effect whatsoever, but we can look forward to another unhinged twitter rant in the wee hours.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/794999691/house-passes-war-powers-resolution-in-effort-to-restrict-trumps-actions-against- (https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/794999691/house-passes-war-powers-resolution-in-effort-to-restrict-trumps-actions-against-)

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 10, 2020, 12:44:41 AM
I'm dying rn looking at Twitter.


An effectively symbolic act makes it at least look like they're trying, I guess?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 10, 2020, 10:28:23 AM
Oh my god is it  this easy to manipulate the most powerful man on the planet:-

Quote"God's used imperfect people all through history. King David wasn't perfect. Saul wasn't perfect. Solomon wasn't perfect," outgoing Energy Secretary Rick Perry said in an interview on "Fox & Friends" before going on to claim that he had given the president "a little one-pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago. And I shared with him, I said, 'Mr. President, I know there are people who say, you know, you are the chosen one,' and I said, 'You were.' "
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/11/26/apocalyptic-myth-that-helps-explain-evangelical-support-trump/

Maybe we are really all fucked / unless we aren't [obligatory discordian disclaimer]


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 10, 2020, 01:43:25 PM

Did the educational system fail to foster critical thinking?
Or is indoctrination and the media too strong?
Perhaps the cultural genesis of the country and its roots were rotten from the start?
Is it capitalism, and everyone too busy in the rat race to be able to think?
Is England the causality behind all of this, and theyre semi-conciously doing penance thru Brexit?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 10, 2020, 01:43:25 PM

Perhaps the cultural genesis of the country and its roots were rotten from the start?


The other stuff is true, but this is the main bit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 10, 2020, 02:18:50 PM
Anglo-Saxons were a mistake.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 05:57:24 PM
Oh, my.  :lulz:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 10, 2020, 07:35:00 PM
This airliner thing is the perfect "I shot Marvin in the face" moment.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 10, 2020, 08:21:46 PM
I'm suddenly worried about the follow up line, "I'm an atom-bomb layin' motherfucker, motherfucker!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 11, 2020, 04:13:09 AM
On the day U.S. forces killed Soleimani, they targeted a senior Iranian official in Yemen. (http://"
Quote
On the day U.S. forces killed Soleimani, they targeted a senior Iranian official in Yemen
President Trump addresses the nation on Jan. 8, 2020, after an Iranian ballistic missile strike on bases used by U.S. forces in Iraq. (Evan Vucci/AP)
President Trump addresses the nation on Jan. 8, 2020, after an Iranian ballistic missile strike on bases used by U.S. forces in Iraq. (Evan Vucci/AP)
By
John Hudson,
Missy Ryan and
Josh Dawsey
Jan. 10, 2020 at 10:52 a.m. PST
On the day the U.S. military killed a top Iranian commander in Baghdad, U.S. forces carried out another top secret mission against a senior Iranian military official in Yemen, according to U.S. officials.

The strike targeting Abdul Reza Shahlai, a financier and key commander in Iran's elite Quds Force who has been active in Yemen, did not result in his death, according to four U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The unsuccessful operation may indicate that the Trump administration's killing of Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani last week was part of a broader operation than previously explained, raising questions about whether the mission was designed to cripple the leadership of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or solely to prevent an imminent attack on Americans as originally stated.

HUH
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
Further undermining the idea that the assassination was the result of an imminent terrorist threat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 11, 2020, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
Further undermining the idea that the assassination was the result of an imminent terrorist threat.

Necessity,
The tyrants' plea
- John Milton
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 11, 2020, 09:46:10 PM
Whatever it was, it ought to be good for another article of impeachment. At the very least.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:04:27 PM
Anyone want to see Boris Johnson licking Trump's ass?  Well, you're gonna:

https://apnews.com/76ef3722e781efed91a832a44d25917d
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).

Your press is functionally insane.  This is known.  They were all dizzy after an extensive round of the biscuit game based on Meghan Markle's "exotic DNA."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 14, 2020, 03:18:22 PM
Romney Says He Will Likely Defect From GOP, Vote To Allow Impeachment Witnesses (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/romney-says-he-will-likely-defect-from-gop-vote-to-allow-impeachment-witnesses-Py5gllmMiEm4y-YfMw1c2g/)

shut the fuck up, Romney--we already know you only have a spine when your name's on a ballot

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).

Your press is functionally insane.  This is known.  They were all dizzy after an extensive round of the biscuit game based on Meghan Markle's "exotic DNA."

Don't even get me started on that. You know I'm no fan of the Royals, but that the press were effectively able to hound two members of the Royal household out of public life - all while cheered on by obstensibly "royalist" readers - shows just how batshit insane they've gone.

And of course that she was criticised for doing the exact same things that Kate Middleton did...well apparently there's no real racism in the UK anymore, so it's just one of those things. It certainly can't be because the only real difference between the two is skin colour.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).

Your press is functionally insane.  This is known.  They were all dizzy after an extensive round of the biscuit game based on Meghan Markle's "exotic DNA."

Don't even get me started on that. You know I'm no fan of the Royals, but that the press were effectively able to hound two members of the Royal household out of public life - all while cheered on by obstensibly "royalist" readers - shows just how batshit insane they've gone.

And of course that she was criticised for doing the exact same things that Kate Middleton did...well apparently there's no real racism in the UK anymore, so it's just one of those things. It certainly can't be because the only real difference between the two is skin colour.

Well, yeah.  I recall mentioning that she was gonna have a rough time on account of that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:53:48 PM
Yeah. I honestly didn't imagine it would be quite this bad, though.

I've been reading American reporters who live in the UK try to explain it to American readers, which is interesting. It seems by and large your tabloid newspapers keep to the celebrity crap purely, and rarely involve themselves in anything political. As such, most of your newspapers tend to be more serious and highbrow, especially when compared to the shitshow that is American cable TV, where any old lunatic can, and probably will, end up hawking their shit on national TV for everyone to see.

Our tabloids are basically your Fox News. Only we have like, 10 of them, all competing to up the crazy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:53:48 PM
Yeah. I honestly didn't imagine it would be quite this bad, though.

I've been reading American reporters who live in the UK try to explain it to American readers, which is interesting. It seems by and large your tabloid newspapers keep to the celebrity crap purely, and rarely involve themselves in anything political. As such, most of your newspapers tend to be more serious and highbrow, especially when compared to the shitshow that is American cable TV, where any old lunatic can, and probably will, end up hawking their shit on national TV for everyone to see.

Our tabloids are basically your Fox News. Only we have like, 10 of them, all competing to up the crazy.

Yeah, I noticed that.  Your TV is better but your printed news is craptastic.  Here, it's the other way around.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 14, 2020, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).

Your press is functionally insane.  This is known.  They were all dizzy after an extensive round of the biscuit game based on Meghan Markle's "exotic DNA."

Don't even get me started on that. You know I'm no fan of the Royals, but that the press were effectively able to hound two members of the Royal household out of public life - all while cheered on by obstensibly "royalist" readers - shows just how batshit insane they've gone.

And of course that she was criticised for doing the exact same things that Kate Middleton did...well apparently there's no real racism in the UK anymore, so it's just one of those things. It certainly can't be because the only real difference between the two is skin colour.

Well, yeah.  I recall mentioning that she was gonna have a rough time on account of that.

Not even skin color. She's no darker than my white ass.
More like the "one drop rule".  :x
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 14, 2020, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
He's making up for the lost time, given he essentially vanished for all of the duration of the previous incident (and the press, bizarrely, decided to grill Jeremy Corbyn and not the actual PM about what should be done).

Your press is functionally insane.  This is known.  They were all dizzy after an extensive round of the biscuit game based on Meghan Markle's "exotic DNA."

Don't even get me started on that. You know I'm no fan of the Royals, but that the press were effectively able to hound two members of the Royal household out of public life - all while cheered on by obstensibly "royalist" readers - shows just how batshit insane they've gone.

And of course that she was criticised for doing the exact same things that Kate Middleton did...well apparently there's no real racism in the UK anymore, so it's just one of those things. It certainly can't be because the only real difference between the two is skin colour.

Well, yeah.  I recall mentioning that she was gonna have a rough time on account of that.

Not even skin color. She's no darker than my white ass.
More like the "one drop rule".  :x

Tell that to the tabloids.  Apparently she has "exotic DNA" and is "almost straight outta Compton".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 07:15:48 PM
Yup, it's true.

It could also be a bit of latent anti-Americanism coming into play as well. Of course, overt anti-Americanism is bad, but covertly insinuating Americans are dumb, ignorant and violent is always a crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 14, 2020, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 07:15:48 PM
Yup, it's true.

It could also be a bit of latent anti-Americanism coming into play as well. Of course, overt anti-Americanism is bad, but covertly insinuating Americans are dumb, ignorant and violent is always a crowd pleaser.

That would be understandable. We do have a big faction that fits that description.
The racism thing, OTOH... :x
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2020, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

What's her game do you think? I'm a little out of the loop on what's going on with it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 14, 2020, 08:06:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

I saw something earlier about McConnell getting hit with an ethics complaint.
But he's had a lot of those over the years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2020, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

What's her game do you think? I'm a little out of the loop on what's going on with it

Apparently, she anticipated the "wag the dog" business in Iran (or anticipated something like it), so she delayed until after the incident to release the impeachment articles to the senate.

Given that nothing else has changed, it's the only thing that makes sense.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 14, 2020, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2020, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

What's her game do you think? I'm a little out of the loop on what's going on with it

Apparently, she anticipated the "wag the dog" business in Iran (or anticipated something like it), so she delayed until after the incident to release the impeachment articles to the senate.

Given that nothing else has changed, it's the only thing that makes sense.

"...suggests Trump could face more..."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/pelosi-says-no-regrets-about-holding-impeachment-articles-suggests-trump-n1114211 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/pelosi-says-no-regrets-about-holding-impeachment-articles-suggests-trump-n1114211)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2020, 08:24:25 PM
Pelosi using her insider knowledge and arcane bureaucratic knowledge for the Power of Good.

About bloody time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 14, 2020, 08:33:34 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/lTB6FKY1fmAZhhv1En/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 14, 2020, 08:33:34 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/lTB6FKY1fmAZhhv1En/giphy.gif)

Oh, I can tell you precisely what's going to happen.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 15, 2020, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 14, 2020, 08:24:25 PM
Pelosi using her insider knowledge and arcane bureaucratic knowledge for the Power of Good.

About bloody time.
I've been persuaded that she's been successfully playing the long game for quite some time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 15, 2020, 01:27:38 AM
https://www.courthousenews.com/house-releases-trove-of-documents-from-giuliani-associate/

The docs: http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/parnas-docs.pdf

Looks like they were talking about the possibility of bumping off Marie Yanakovich.

(https://i.imgur.com/k19nDW6.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 15, 2020, 03:29:05 AM
Oh yeah she's not having it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200115/5ec39aedbf7108662056c1b93c40bc38.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 15, 2020, 04:30:16 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 15, 2020, 01:27:38 AM
https://www.courthousenews.com/house-releases-trove-of-documents-from-giuliani-associate/

The docs: http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/parnas-docs.pdf

Looks like they were talking about the possibility of bumping off Marie Yanakovich.

(https://i.imgur.com/k19nDW6.jpg)

That's not at all CREEPY AS FUCK.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 15, 2020, 07:09:59 AM
Holy shit
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 15, 2020, 07:10:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on January 14, 2020, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 14, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
Meanwhile, I am once again forced to admit that Pelosi knows what the hell she's doing.

Now that Trump has had his big distraction and it's fallen off of the news...

https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

What's her game do you think? I'm a little out of the loop on what's going on with it

Apparently, she anticipated the "wag the dog" business in Iran (or anticipated something like it), so she delayed until after the incident to release the impeachment articles to the senate.

Given that nothing else has changed, it's the only thing that makes sense.

That makes sense to me
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2020, 10:51:30 AM
I mean, my first thought ran to blackmail or intimidation rather than outright assassination.

But any of those things, to be done by an agent of the President's lawyer, against a sitting Ambassador, is still extremely fucking stupid.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2020, 01:19:01 PM
It seems like there were concerns about her security, though

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOR3TJ4XkAAkiX7?format=png&name=900x900)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOR6m8nWAAAJ1IM?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 15, 2020, 10:26:41 PM
You can't make this shit up.
I hope Pelosi takes note.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 16, 2020, 04:06:51 AM
Well now...
(https://i.imgur.com/vmWGI7p.jpg)

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 16, 2020, 06:57:28 AM
Oh it's all going down in flames.

I'm not sure whether to prepare for our fucked up future in the US or to get out before someone notices what's happening, freaks out, and knocks over a kettle drum of some horrible halogen polyfluoride while trying to run away.

Granted, that might end up being me if I get out. But at least I'll be able to appreciate my demise, as my flesh catches fire and becomes a corrosive contact explosive.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2020, 08:35:29 AM
Of course they did some dumb shit like this. Trump clearly has never heard of plausible deniability
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 16, 2020, 03:46:30 PM
the only thing I'm sure of is that this will all blow over and trump will emerge unscathed as usual
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 16, 2020, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on January 16, 2020, 03:46:30 PM
the only thing I'm sure of is that this will all blow over and trump will emerge unscathed as usual

Well, yeah.  The dems seem to be completely incapable of learning that the rules have changed.

Example:  That non-binding resolution about Iran.  How bowel-liquifyingly terrifying that must have been for Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 16, 2020, 04:10:57 PM
Also, when you subpoena someone and they say "no", the VERY FIRST THING YOU DO is send the sergeant at arms around to put them in shackles.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 17, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
Quote
The White House violated federal law by withholding security aid approved by lawmakers for Ukraine, a nonpartisan congressional watchdog said on Thursday, in a blow for U.S. President Donald Trump as the Senate prepared to hold a trial on whether to remove him from office.

Quote
"Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," the Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded, referring to the fact that Congress had already voted to appropriate the funds.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/politics-news-pmn/white-house-broke-law-by-withholding-ukraine-aid-congressional-agency-says

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 17, 2020, 03:09:15 PM
Quote"Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," the Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded

This is the "I can't believe I actually have to write this, but here we go" sentence
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 17, 2020, 03:43:49 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 17, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
Quote
The White House violated federal law by withholding security aid approved by lawmakers for Ukraine, a nonpartisan congressional watchdog said on Thursday, in a blow for U.S. President Donald Trump as the Senate prepared to hold a trial on whether to remove him from office.

Quote
"Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law," the Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded, referring to the fact that Congress had already voted to appropriate the funds.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/politics-news-pmn/white-house-broke-law-by-withholding-ukraine-aid-congressional-agency-says



But it surprises no one. That the law has been violated and power has been abused is well established and the only legitimate legal recourse is well known. More documentation is just more kindling for the fire that nobody is serious about lighting. If the Democrats were serious, they'd be including Pence in this impeachment proceeding, and they'd be pulling every dirty trick they could on GOP senators, up to and including blackmail and extortion, because obviously we can't trust the Republican-controlled Senate to act in good faith. But they're not serious, they're just trying to score political points in an election year, as usual.

Everybody already knows the Republicans are corrupt and lawless, even the Republican base. It isn't going to bring them down, though. It's actually an advantage for them. The Democrats' political charades aren't going to motivate voters in November, they're just going to underscore the fact that no one with the power to confront Trumpism has any real inclination to confront it unless they can do so within the bounds of business as usual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 18, 2020, 12:18:02 AM

Yeah like, everyone already knows what's going on is illegal and unconstitutional... and the further and further boundaries are pushed to what can be done without punishment or any kind of restraint, it becomes the new "normal and acceptable" limits of what is admisible. At this point, piling on more charges is doing nothing for accountability, but rather pushing the boundaries.

Nothing to see here, citizen, just move along, its just "normal" business.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
Q: How can you tell Trump is lying?
A: his mouth is moving and sounds are coming out of it

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/01/eleven-us-troops-were-injured-jan-8-iran-missile-strike/162502/

QuoteNearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran's Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq's al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One.

Senior military and Trump administration officials had said on Jan. 8 that 11 Iranian missiles had caused "no casualties, no friendly casualties, whether they are U.S., coalition, contractor, et cetera."

In the past week, news organizations that were granted access to the base to film the damage and interview military personnel have reported that no Americans were killed, wounded, or "seriously injured." But the New York Times reported on Monday that some personnel had been treated for concussions.

In a Jan. 16 statement, a spokesman for the U.S. military command in Baghdad said, "As previously stated, while no U.S. service members were killed in the Jan. 8 Iranian attack on Al Asad Air base, several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 10:05:19 PM
Ever see something that automatically makes you suspicious?

https://apnews.com/2cb8c0b71160268b52a90335e0e5ce47

McConnell is up to something, I just can't figure out what.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 10:05:19 PM
Ever see something that automatically makes you suspicious?

https://apnews.com/2cb8c0b71160268b52a90335e0e5ce47

McConnell is up to something, I just can't figure out what.

Is it too much to hope that he will throw the maga khan under the bus?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 11:56:55 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 21, 2020, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 10:05:19 PM
Ever see something that automatically makes you suspicious?

https://apnews.com/2cb8c0b71160268b52a90335e0e5ce47

McConnell is up to something, I just can't figure out what.

Is it too much to hope that he will throw the maga khan under the bus?

Not likely, but possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 22, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
Q: How can you tell Trump is lying?
A: his mouth is moving and sounds are coming out of it

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/01/eleven-us-troops-were-injured-jan-8-iran-missile-strike/162502/

QuoteNearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran's Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq's al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One.

Senior military and Trump administration officials had said on Jan. 8 that 11 Iranian missiles had caused "no casualties, no friendly casualties, whether they are U.S., coalition, contractor, et cetera."

In the past week, news organizations that were granted access to the base to film the damage and interview military personnel have reported that no Americans were killed, wounded, or "seriously injured." But the New York Times reported on Monday that some personnel had been treated for concussions.

In a Jan. 16 statement, a spokesman for the U.S. military command in Baghdad said, "As previously stated, while no U.S. service members were killed in the Jan. 8 Iranian attack on Al Asad Air base, several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed."

That particular lie had a lot of folks optimistic about avoiding war with Iran.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2020, 10:12:13 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2020, 10:05:19 PM
Ever see something that automatically makes you suspicious?

https://apnews.com/2cb8c0b71160268b52a90335e0e5ce47

McConnell is up to something, I just can't figure out what.

Turning the trial into a farce? A trial with no witnesses is just Trump screaming "this is a witch hunt, the worst in ALL OF HISTORY" over and over again into the cameras, like a great big baby, while the Senators go "well this is all very compelling, but unfortunately there are no witnesses. We find the President innocent."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2020, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 22, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
Q: How can you tell Trump is lying?
A: his mouth is moving and sounds are coming out of it

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/01/eleven-us-troops-were-injured-jan-8-iran-missile-strike/162502/

QuoteNearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran's Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq's al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One.

Senior military and Trump administration officials had said on Jan. 8 that 11 Iranian missiles had caused "no casualties, no friendly casualties, whether they are U.S., coalition, contractor, et cetera."

In the past week, news organizations that were granted access to the base to film the damage and interview military personnel have reported that no Americans were killed, wounded, or "seriously injured." But the New York Times reported on Monday that some personnel had been treated for concussions.

In a Jan. 16 statement, a spokesman for the U.S. military command in Baghdad said, "As previously stated, while no U.S. service members were killed in the Jan. 8 Iranian attack on Al Asad Air base, several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed."

That particular lie had a lot of folks optimistic about avoiding war with Iran.

(https://i.imgur.com/xdRZBVA.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 22, 2020, 12:53:46 PM
Well that explains a lot about his present atrophied chestnut and its terrible ideas
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 22, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
Holy shit.

Saudi Arabia apparently hacked Jeff Bezos' phone (who owns the Trump-critical Washington Post), and downloaded information from it for months.

This included information about Jeff's mistress, pics included.

Later, the National Enquirer (Trump-friendly) "somehow" received text and pics about the mistress and tried to extort Bezos.

The kicker: The malware came through a What's App message, sent by the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman himself.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/saudi-leader-crown-prince-mbs-whatsapp-video-bezos-phone-amazon.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 22, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
Holy shit.

Saudi Arabia apparently hacked Jeff Bezos' phone (who owns the Trump-critical Washington Post), and downloaded information from it for months.

This included information about Jeff's mistress, pics included.

Later, the National Enquirer (Trump-friendly) "somehow" received text and pics about the mistress and tried to extort Bezos.

The kicker: The malware came through a What's App message, sent by the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman himself.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/saudi-leader-crown-prince-mbs-whatsapp-video-bezos-phone-amazon.html

If our country had a single vertebra to it's name, we'd be spanking the hell out of SA.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
The other pieces were known before, but the WhatsApp message info is new.

Also recall, the journalist they murdered and dismembered in their Ankara consulate also worked for....the Washington Post.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
The other pieces were known before, but the WhatsApp message info is new.

Also recall, the journalist they murdered and dismembered in their Ankara consulate also worked for....the Washington Post.

:eek:  Hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2020, 04:27:23 PM
Oh yeah. There really is no bottom here. Some of those Saudi prices who were detained and tortured by the Crown Prince? Al-Waleed bin Talal was one of them. He is notable because he saved Trump from bankruptcy twice. He had to pay a significant amount of his assets to the Saudi state to secure his release.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 22, 2020, 04:40:38 PM
One of the questions in the investigation was on how they were tracking Kashoggi's whereabouts, if Bezo's or others were sending that on and deliberately or inadvertently got him killed well
Probably nothing will happen, because its 2020 and this is the new normal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 22, 2020, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2020, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 22, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2020, 02:52:54 AM
Q: How can you tell Trump is lying?
A: his mouth is moving and sounds are coming out of it

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/01/eleven-us-troops-were-injured-jan-8-iran-missile-strike/162502/

QuoteNearly one dozen American troops were wounded in Iran's Jan. 8 missile attack on Iraq's al-Asad air base. This week, they were medically evacuated to U.S. military hospitals in Kuwait and Landstuhl, Germany, to be treated for traumatic brain injury and to undergo further evaluation, several U.S. defense and military officials have confirmed to Defense One.

Senior military and Trump administration officials had said on Jan. 8 that 11 Iranian missiles had caused "no casualties, no friendly casualties, whether they are U.S., coalition, contractor, et cetera."

In the past week, news organizations that were granted access to the base to film the damage and interview military personnel have reported that no Americans were killed, wounded, or "seriously injured." But the New York Times reported on Monday that some personnel had been treated for concussions.

In a Jan. 16 statement, a spokesman for the U.S. military command in Baghdad said, "As previously stated, while no U.S. service members were killed in the Jan. 8 Iranian attack on Al Asad Air base, several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed."

That particular lie had a lot of folks optimistic about avoiding war with Iran.

(https://i.imgur.com/xdRZBVA.png)

To be fair, he became president with his brain in even worse shape
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2020, 09:51:21 PM
Trump targets Greta Thunberg in barely coherent tirade at Davos: 'She beat me out on Time Magazine (http://"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-greta-thunberg-davos-speech-climate-change-time-magazine-world-economic-forum-a9296481.html?fbclid=IwAR1r4Ux_-K2rIKtp72TP8jVDmtPjxndvIw8LyCe0_aRkr6_k8x4ua-r4UIk")
Quote
Donald Trump has targeted Greta Thunberg for the second successive day at Davos, bemoaning the climate activist's criticism of his administration and the fact "she beat me out on Time magazine".

Speaking at a press conference before departing the World Economic Forum, the American president suggested the 17-year-old Swede "ought to focus on" other countries than the US, which he insisted was "clean and beautiful" and where "everything is good".

"Our numbers are very good, our environmental numbers. Our water numbers, our numbers on the air are tremendous. We have to do something about other continents and other countries," he said, despite the US being responsible for more cumulative carbon emissions than any other nation.

"We have a beautiful ocean called the Pacific Ocean where thousands of tons of garbage flows towards us, put there by other countries, so Greta needs to work on them," he added.

Ms Thunberg, who is also at Davos, launched a scathing attack on the US president's climate record on Tuesday, saying in a speech at the Swiss ski resort: "'Unlike you, my generation will not give up without a fight. Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fuelling the flames."

Asked at Wednesday's press conference about those "strong words" and whether his administration was doing enough to tackle the climate emergency, Mr Trump responded: "How old is she?"

After journalists told him Ms Thunberg's age, the president: "Oh, that's good. She beat me out on Time magazine." The teenager was named Time's Person of the Year for 2019, ahead of the US president, who was on the shortlist.

Pressed further on the activist's climate message, Mr Trump said: "I would have loved to have seen her speak. I did not." He suggested Ms Thunberg's call for urgent climate action was "unrealistic to a point you can't live your lives".

The president, who has previously dismissed climate science as a "hoax" and whose administration has rolled back Obama-era environmental policies, had earlier criticised the teenager's "pessimism".

"Fear and doubt is not a good thought process because this is a time for tremendous hope and joy and optimism and action," he said at Davos on Tuesday. "To embrace the possibilities of tomorrow, we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse."

Ms Thunberg, speaking later at a panel discussion, responded by referring to "empty words and promises" by world leaders.

"You say children shouldn't worry... don't be so pessimistic and then, nothing, silence," she said.

I think we knew he's pulling a reagan and sliding into the abyss of dementia, didn't we?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 22, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
Dementia implies that he was EVER above this level.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
his interviews and shit in the 80s sound like an actual person talking tho? and not the unholy lovechild of one of the finding nemo seagulls and an early chatbot.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 22, 2020, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 09:51:21 PMI think we knew he's pulling a reagan and sliding into the abyss of dementia, didn't we?

Not sliding. He is demented.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2020, 11:52:40 PM
Well yeah. He's just gotten worse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 23, 2020, 05:53:53 AM

I'll re-state an argument that i presented somewhere else in case you missed it:

https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/1250179459 (https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/1250179459)

Not like I have the time to actually read it, but, professionals took that argument to the wall.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 23, 2020, 03:00:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ExB4gq3.png)

For those wondering, Iyad el-Baghdadi is the real deal. I've followed him for a couple of years now, and you know how carefully I curate my news sources. He's been a target of the Saudi state, and very hot on their hacking and disinfo programs in particular over the past few years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 23, 2020, 03:04:43 PM
I have this funny feeling we're going to find out that the Saudis have their fingers in as many pies as the Russians, by the end of this.

Well. Uh.

I mean, we can already assume that much by money trails alone, I'm talking about non-financial pie-fingering here, especially because for some reason that's more shocking to me and most other people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: altered on January 23, 2020, 03:04:43 PM
I have this funny feeling we're going to find out that the Saudis have their fingers in as many pies as the Russians, by the end of this.

Well. Uh.

I mean, we can already assume that much by money trails alone, I'm talking about non-financial pie-fingering here, especially because for some reason that's more shocking to me and most other people.

Or SOMEONE'S fingers, anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 03:07:45 PM
Too soon?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 23, 2020, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 03:07:45 PM
Too soon?

Nope.  :horrormirth:  Exactly right timing. It took a bit to hit me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 23, 2020, 09:42:58 PM
:lulz: goddamn, Roger.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 23, 2020, 09:42:58 PM
:lulz: goddamn, Roger.

Jenn has announced that I am a barbarian. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 23, 2020, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 23, 2020, 09:42:58 PM
:lulz: goddamn, Roger.

Jenn has announced that I am a barbarian.

That's why we like you.

Look what the White House posted on their youtube channel:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-a-video-on-the-white-houses-official-youtube-page-calling-homosexuality-the-devils-work-2020-01-22?fbclid=IwAR1S1wO04g3iV0cPNJoXTZQ10d1rG-7cpuAGAUh9sCSCNlVvSSIDOHBsXWQ (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-a-video-on-the-white-houses-official-youtube-page-calling-homosexuality-the-devils-work-2020-01-22?fbclid=IwAR1S1wO04g3iV0cPNJoXTZQ10d1rG-7cpuAGAUh9sCSCNlVvSSIDOHBsXWQ)

Report, report, report.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 24, 2020, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 23, 2020, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 23, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 23, 2020, 09:42:58 PM
:lulz: goddamn, Roger.

Jenn has announced that I am a barbarian.

That's why we like you.

Look what the White House posted on their youtube channel:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-a-video-on-the-white-houses-official-youtube-page-calling-homosexuality-the-devils-work-2020-01-22?fbclid=IwAR1S1wO04g3iV0cPNJoXTZQ10d1rG-7cpuAGAUh9sCSCNlVvSSIDOHBsXWQ (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-a-video-on-the-white-houses-official-youtube-page-calling-homosexuality-the-devils-work-2020-01-22?fbclid=IwAR1S1wO04g3iV0cPNJoXTZQ10d1rG-7cpuAGAUh9sCSCNlVvSSIDOHBsXWQ)

Report, report, report.
:mittens: :mittens:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 24, 2020, 08:38:58 PM
@MorningEdition :: Mike Pompeo — who refused a House subpoena — would be a top witness for Democrats in the impeachment trial.  He is not set to testify, but he spoke to @NPRKelly. She asked the secretary of state if he would defend Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch: https://t.co/1YoGWOSdqb ( http://tinyurl.com/urzjjgd )

May we have more of this, plz?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2020, 12:40:15 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437&fbclid=IwAR2XnFOwOWAWu2fisfoaJfjThts1SlHaKik8QtfnwGh6sI8j0O-bsIDQIZM

The more I think about, the less it makes sense. Trump can just call Pompeo and have her withdrawn for any reason he wants to give. That's what Presidents do, they appoint ambassadors.

Instead the President, infamously mobbed up as he is, tells a couple of douchebags with no legal authority to remove her to "take her out". This from a man who's tag-line is "you're fired"?

It just doesn't sit right.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 25, 2020, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 25, 2020, 12:40:15 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437&fbclid=IwAR2XnFOwOWAWu2fisfoaJfjThts1SlHaKik8QtfnwGh6sI8j0O-bsIDQIZM

The more I think about, the less it makes sense. Trump can just call Pompeo and have her withdrawn for any reason he wants to give. That's what Presidents do, they appoint ambassadors.

Instead the President, infamously mobbed up as he is, tells a couple of douchebags with no legal authority to remove her to "take her out". This from a man who's tag-line is "you're fired"?

It just doesn't sit right.

What do you make of it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 25, 2020, 11:16:25 PM
He's just so used to being a shady piece of shit that it's his default mode. Even when he could fire someone without raising any eyebrows he just automatically does it in a mob boss kinda way because he doesn't know anything else.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 26, 2020, 12:41:11 AM

See, it's to make a point about him being able to disregard the law... it's going beyond the demonstration of political muscle/power.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 02:22:26 AM
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19 (https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 26, 2020, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
his interviews and shit in the 80s sound like an actual person talking tho? and not the unholy lovechild of one of the finding nemo seagulls and an early chatbot.

I think the 80's were when he was doing all the coke that made his brain into what it is now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 26, 2020, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: Juana on January 22, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
his interviews and shit in the 80s sound like an actual person talking tho? and not the unholy lovechild of one of the finding nemo seagulls and an early chatbot.

I think the 80's were when he was doing all the coke that made his brain into what it is now.

Brain?
OK, maybe a little, but not enough to make any difference.
https://youtu.be/xXoQ4cWd19E (https://youtu.be/xXoQ4cWd19E)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 26, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
From what I've heard, he never directly fires someone in his actual businesses. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/09/25/president-trump-is-afraid-fire-people/) he *always * gets someone else to do it. The Apprentice was just horseshit.

Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 02:22:26 AM
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19 (https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19)

But that...well...that's a good point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 10:37:12 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 26, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
From what I've heard, he never directly fires someone in his actual businesses. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/09/25/president-trump-is-afraid-fire-people/) he *always * gets someone else to do it. The Apprentice was just horseshit.

Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 26, 2020, 02:22:26 AM
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19 (https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1221215583624204293?s=19)

But that...well...that's a good point.

If I'm not mistaken, there was no one but Trump in that conversation with the legal authority to fire her.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 27, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
I just remembered this weirdly prescient sitcom clip from 2005

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3aVSNSM6M&t=00m5s
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 05:08:48 PM
Remember how the GOP was bitching about "secret" house meetings, even when half of the committee members were republican?

Oh, yeah.

https://apnews.com/b54b02d0a9d99f0f33ce4c95fd56f8e2

QuoteGOP Sen. Lindsey Graham wrote on Twitter that he "totally" supports Lankford's proposal. Graham, a key Trump ally, said the Bolton document should be made available to the Senate, in a classified setting, "where each Senator has the opportunity to review the manuscript and make their own determination."

Senate Republicans were to meet behind closed doors to consider next steps.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:20:44 PM
I love the smell of flagrant hypocrisy in the morning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:20:44 PM
I love the smell of flagrant hypocrisy in the morning.

That's the GOP's secret to success.  Never blush.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 28, 2020, 05:20:44 PM
I love the smell of flagrant hypocrisy in the morning.

That's the GOP's secret to success.  Never blush.
Yeeep.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 28, 2020, 07:28:00 PM
I predict that despite the senate being republican Trump will be removed from office on or around July 20th of this year. cf. Revelation 13:5 The beast was allowed to brag and claim to be God, and for 42 months it was allowed to rule.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 28, 2020, 07:39:25 PM
:lulz:

Anyone else seeing what I'm seeing, or am I having a stroke?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 28, 2020, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: altered on January 28, 2020, 07:39:25 PM
:lulz:

Anyone else seeing what I'm seeing, or am I having a stroke?

I am seeing it, but I won't anymore since I'm gonna use the "hide user's comments" like I should have years ago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: altered on January 28, 2020, 07:39:25 PM
:lulz:

Anyone else seeing what I'm seeing, or am I having a stroke?

When the Mona Lisa starts singing show tunes at you, you don't question it.  You head for the exit.  Arm yourself.  Lash out at anyone who tries to interact with you.

This doesn't end well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 28, 2020, 08:35:41 PM
I brought my BIG stick today. I'm prepared.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2020, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: altered on January 28, 2020, 08:35:41 PM
I brought my BIG stick today. I'm prepared.

You know, something like 700 Hollywood deaths per year could be prevented if people just listened to me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 28, 2020, 08:43:58 PM
Wait, was PDS not joking?  I assumed he was joking.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 28, 2020, 08:47:00 PM
No one who goes "c.f." to cite something is joking. He fucking italicized the quote. That's entirely too much effort for a joke no one will laugh at.

If he is joking, he has unfortunately stumbled headlong into Poe's Law.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 28, 2020, 08:56:59 PM
Huh.  I had an idea a couple weeks back, to find some parallels between Trump and the antichrist (with citations). You know, something to trigger cognitive dissonance in a subset of Trumpers.  I guess I thought PDS was doing something similar.  I wouldn't have made any testable predictions, of course...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 28, 2020, 09:15:48 PM
I mean, I don't really believe in all that bible stuff, but you have to admit he does have a lot of the properties of the antichrist and/or the devil

For example, the constant talk by his supporters about how Trump speaks from his heart is reminiscent of John 8:44

You people are from your father, the devil, and you want to do what your father desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 28, 2020, 09:23:34 PM
Well, I guess that clears everything up, doesn't it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 28, 2020, 09:34:04 PM
Hoping for religious consistency from evangelicals is like hoping for ideological consistency from Republicans.

I get it, but history suggests it simply won't work.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 28, 2020, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 28, 2020, 08:56:59 PM
Huh.  I had an idea a couple weeks back, to find some parallels between Trump and the antichrist (with citations). You know, something to trigger cognitive dissonance in a subset of Trumpers.  I guess I thought PDS was doing something similar.  I wouldn't have made any testable predictions, of course...

As relates to the whole pepe/kek thing
https://biblehub.com/revelation/16-13.htm

Also traditionally The Antichrist is as a matter of prophecy

Going to decieve most of the church, known as The Great Deception
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2%3A1-3&version=NKJV
Note the footer b where it says literally "lawless" instead of sin. One of the "secret" names of The Antichrist is Anomos meaning literally "lawless" "unruly" and "rude" in the Greek. Sound like anyone currently in power?

Brokers a peace deal for Israel for 7 years (prophetically "weeks") that will fall apart after 3.5 or so
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+8%3A23-25%2CDaniel+9%3A26-27%2CDaniel+11%3A36-39&version=KJV

Establishes a totalitarian religion and related economic system
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13&version=AMP
There's a lot to unpack here, but the footers are helpful.

Is wounded and recovers as noted in Revelation 13 above.

He's not a perfect fit just yet, but is definitely in the spirit of the Antichrist, so to speak.

This in addition to being the willful, if ignorant, lynchpin in an attempt to evoke The Darkness and make him its vessel.

Good thing this is all superstitious hogwash huh?   :fnord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 02:10:21 AM
Quote from: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.
But it's a time-honored American tradition
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 03:37:58 AM
Quote from: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.

Fuckin' watch me.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 29, 2020, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.
None of this is going to end well anyway.
I still think that we should continue to promote Obama as "a better Antichrist than Trump" just to rankle Trump and make him fuck up being the Antichrist all the harder.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2020, 09:40:53 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 29, 2020, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.
None of this is going to end well anyway.
I still think that we should continue to promote Obama as "a better Antichrist than Trump" just to rankle Trump and make him fuck up being the Antichrist all the harder.

This is a much better idea.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 29, 2020, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 29, 2020, 09:14:44 AM
I still think that we should continue to promote Obama as "a better Antichrist than Trump" just to rankle Trump and make him fuck up being the Antichrist all the harder.
We need an Antichrist Scoring System (ASS).

Do you suspect you or someone you know might be the Antichrist?  This simple questionnaire will tell you!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 29, 2020, 03:16:24 PM
I think I saw that quiz on Buzzfeed last week.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
It's interesting how Trump and Netanyahu have somehow managed to negotiate a peace process with the Palestinians, without them being present at the talks.

Is that the word, negotiation, when two states team up to tell a third state what to do? Or is that an ultimatum, I get them confused so easily...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
It's interesting how Trump and Netanyahu have somehow managed to negotiate a peace process with the Palestinians, without them being present at the talks.

Is that the word, negotiation, when two states team up to tell a third state what to do? Or is that an ultimatum, I get them confused so easily...

Sounds familiar.

Oh, yeah.  Remember when Czechoslovakia was "negotiated" with, with Hitler, Chamberlain, and Daladier handling that tiresome business for them?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2020, 05:21:40 PM
It even looks similar.

Israel's already moving to mobilise to fully annex the territories they would be given under this "agreement".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 29, 2020, 05:27:51 PM
...they're gonna kill all the Palestinians, aren't they?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2020, 05:27:51 PM
...they're gonna kill all the Palestinians, aren't they?

"Kill."  This is such an ugly word.

Try "displaced".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 29, 2020, 05:43:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2020, 05:27:51 PM
...they're gonna kill all the Palestinians, aren't they?

"Kill."  This is such an ugly word.

Try "displaced".

See also "delocate"  :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on January 29, 2020, 05:51:10 PM
Alarmists, all of you. The Palestinians are simply going to experience a terminal event.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2020, 06:17:53 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/83498162_10156571706042027_1310041900899631104_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=QfbdSd7oSp0AX-dEkkU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=5beb5a3c12ec4a981b92a4b9300db725&oe=5ED5FFF0)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
How is he not the star attraction at the county fair punching booth?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 29, 2020, 06:28:42 PM
I think a successful Israeli/Palestinian agreement would be one which left both sides unhappy, but believing that the other side was more unhappy.

This does not appear to be that agreement.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 29, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
This plan is what happened when a senior staffer sneezed on a map, and everyone said, jokingly, "That's INGENIOUS!" Then Trump took them seriously.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 29, 2020, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 29, 2020, 06:28:42 PM
I think a successful Israeli/Palestinian agreement would be one which left both sides unhappy, but believing that the other side was more unhappy.

This does not appear to be that agreement.

You're assuming that all parts involved are rational, just and aren't entitled wet garbage.

I would actually contend that in fact, current "agreements" fit your definition of successful for the most part - both sides are very unhappy, albeit for very different reasons.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 29, 2020, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2020, 06:17:53 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/83498162_10156571706042027_1310041900899631104_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=QfbdSd7oSp0AX-dEkkU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=5beb5a3c12ec4a981b92a4b9300db725&oe=5ED5FFF0)
Wow, that's definitely not piss the Palestinians off and certainly a sign of a great ambassador (or whatever the fuck he is).

Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
How is he not the star attraction at the county fair punching booth?
:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 29, 2020, 09:13:44 PM
The 20's are going to start out with ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians by Israel and the US isn't it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 29, 2020, 09:13:44 PM
The 20's are going to start out with ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians by Israel and the US isn't it?

Also an ugly word.

Try "geography repurposing".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
"The impeachment process is filled with acrimony and divides the country like nothing else."
- Ken Starr
January 28, 2020.

I

SHIT

YOU

NOT
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 29, 2020, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
"The impeachment process is filled with acrimony and divides the country like nothing else."
- Ken Starr
January 28, 2020.

I

SHIT

YOU

NOT

:spittake:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 29, 2020, 09:24:52 PM
I mean, if anybody should know, it'd be him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 09:38:38 PM
This is the best example of Trump's brain that I have ever found.

QuoteTrump disagreed in a tweet Wednesday in which he complained that Bolton, after he left the White House, "goes out and IMMEDIATELY writes a nasty & untrue book. All Classified National Security."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 29, 2020, 10:04:03 PM
"It's false AND illegal for him to share! What's so hard to understand?!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 29, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
I always classify false and untrue information.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 29, 2020, 10:08:07 PM
Lies are a matter of National Security. The truth is only on my Twitter dot com.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:07:58 AM
Quote from: Frontside Back on January 29, 2020, 01:35:56 AM
You cannot keep claiming every U.S. president as the antichrist, that's not gonna end well.

Seems like a great echo of the traditional god emperor of the Egyptians.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 30, 2020, 02:02:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
I always classify false and untrue information.

I see the "world's most interesting man" meme and the caption

I don't always classify false and untrue information

But when I do it's because I want you to find it.


... Not necessarily realated to Trump in context.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 30, 2020, 04:13:48 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...

I don't mean have another crusade or something and give it back to the christian weirdoes, I mean just get it away from the israelis and palestianians. Like if there was some way to get everyone out of there and then deploy some kind of area denial measure so they can't come back.

Also we should rebuild the Hadrian's temple of Jupiter
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 30, 2020, 04:40:45 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 30, 2020, 04:13:48 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...

I don't mean have another crusade or something and give it back to the christian weirdoes, I mean just get it away from the israelis and palestianians. Like if there was some way to get everyone out of there and then deploy some kind of area denial measure so they can't come back.

Also we should rebuild the Hadrian's temple of Jupiter

No. No I think we should not do that. Any of that.  :kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 30, 2020, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: Juana on January 29, 2020, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2020, 06:17:53 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/83498162_10156571706042027_1310041900899631104_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=QfbdSd7oSp0AX-dEkkU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=5beb5a3c12ec4a981b92a4b9300db725&oe=5ED5FFF0)
Wow, that's definitely not piss the Palestinians off and certainly a sign of a great ambassador (or whatever the fuck he is).

Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
How is he not the star attraction at the county fair punching booth?
:lulz:

BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.

I'd bethere with bells on. And brass knucks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2020, 01:56:05 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-30/trump-s-peace-plan-leaves-palestinians-few-nonviolent-options?srnd=opinion

QuoteWhen the Camp David summit in July 2000 failed, my father asked me what I thought. I said Israelis would eventually enforce the highly circumscribed "statehood" Palestinians had just rejected. They would try to use their overwhelming power to gobble up large parts of the occupied territories, without absorbing the Palestinian population or allowing genuine Palestinian independence.

Until this week, they were blocked from doing this because the U.S. was a third signatory to the 1993 Declaration of Principles that prohibits unilateral annexation. Now David Friedman, the American ambassador to Israel is openly encouraging Israel to annex big chunks of Palestinian territory.

The Palestine Liberation Organization for decades sought to negotiate a two-state agreement with Israel. If the Israelis go ahead with this annexation and Washington perseveres with the new Trump policies, they will look like the biggest dupes imaginable. Hamas, which insists on armed struggle, will appear vindicated despite the continuous disasters their violence have wrought on Palestinian lives and fortunes.

How should Palestinians respond?

The clever move would be to thank Trump for his ideas, and welcome the opportunity to sit down with the other parties to discuss how, if at all, these new proposals fit with the formal and binding framework signed and agreed to in 1993. (Spoiler: they don't.)

If life were a debating society or courtroom, all Palestinians need do is hold up the signature page of the Declaration of Principles and win the argument every time.

But life isn't like that. For years Palestinians were harangued and punished by Israelis and Americans for supposedly violating the spirit of the Oslo agreements by "unilaterally" seeking greater international recognition. Now Israel and the U.S. have blithely wrecked those agreements, which evidently aren't sacred after all.

Besides, Palestinian politics won't allow the PLO to play that game. Their constituents are too outraged to be satisfied with debate-hall arguments, and Hamas will capitalize on any perceived PLO weakness.

Palestinians might be able to recuperate their diplomatic position if Israel doesn't go ahead with annexations in the coming weeks and Trump is defeated in November. Then it would be up to the Democrats to urgently restore sanity to U.S. policy. That is not impossible, but it requires Palestinians to simply wait and see what happens.

Beyond that, Palestinian options are highly limited. Unless the international community moves quickly to restore hope for genuine Palestinian statehood through diplomacy, the arguments against another major uprising will be crippled.

If it becomes obvious that Palestinians are indefinitely trapped as noncitizens in a formalized, apartheid-style greater Israel, and that the international community isn't going to rescue them from such a fate, they are essentially left with two choices.

In the abstract, what would make most sense would be to, in effect, declare themselves conscripted Israelis and fight through uncompromising but nonviolent means for full political as well as civil rights in the de facto greater Israel. But Palestinian nationalist narratives don't provide the basis for such a strategy. And there is little historical precedent for a people securing their rights in this way.

Armed struggle is the other option; Hamas and others will be clamoring for it. If Trump and Netanyahu get their way, Hamas will probably succeed at last in taking over the Palestinian movement. Or, to prevent that, the PLO itself will return to armed struggle.

The only thing that may give the Palestinians pause is the fear that any violence might invite disproportionate Israeli response, including a widening of the annexation horizon and mass expulsions of people from these areas.

But it's hard to imagine any people simply accepting the fate to which Trump and Netanyahu are sentencing the Palestinians. If my father were to ask me about the likeliest outcome of the latest "peace plan," I would tell him that violence is coming, if not right away then soon enough. Effective arguments against such a path, reckless and self-destructive as it is, are dwindling rapidly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: MMIX on January 30, 2020, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...

Don't discordians hate everybody? What PDS seems to mean is "Corpus Separatum", yanno, like the UN agreed to back in 1940 somewhat
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2020, 10:51:15 PM
Oh god

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/30/trump-dna-sought/

QuoteE. Jean Carroll, a New York-based writer who last summer accused President Trump of raping her in the 1990s, requested on Thursday that he submit a DNA sample to determine whether his genetic material is on the black coat dress she said she was wearing during the alleged assault.

Carroll's lawyers served notice to a Trump attorney Thursday, asking that Trump provide a sample for "analysis and comparison against unidentified male DNA present on the dress," the Associated Press first reported. Carroll's lawyers requested Trump provide the DNA sample on March 2 in Washington.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on January 30, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
He's gonna refuse and it won't matter, will it?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2020, 11:42:49 PM
Oh almost certainly.

But semen on a dress and an impeachment trial? This is something fucking with us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:00:02 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 30, 2020, 04:13:48 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...

I don't mean have another crusade or something and give it back to the christian weirdoes, I mean just get it away from the israelis and palestianians. Like if there was some way to get everyone out of there and then deploy some kind of area denial measure so they can't come back.

Also we should rebuild the Hadrian's temple of Jupiter

You are pretty much a geyser of really fucking bad ideas.

That has to be marketable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on January 31, 2020, 03:24:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 03:00:02 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 30, 2020, 04:13:48 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 30, 2020, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 29, 2020, 10:44:39 PM
Honestly I wish there was a viable solution where neither Israel nor Palestine gets Jerusalem. Like a "if you can't play nice with it, neither of you gets to have it" type thing.

Because it's not really anti-semitism unless you hate Arabs too...

I don't mean have another crusade or something and give it back to the christian weirdoes, I mean just get it away from the israelis and palestianians. Like if there was some way to get everyone out of there and then deploy some kind of area denial measure so they can't come back.

Also we should rebuild the Hadrian's temple of Jupiter

You are pretty much a geyser of really fucking bad ideas.

That has to be marketable.

Could work as a tour guide to the Animatronics Museum of Horrible Ideas - "And in this hallway to my right, is Ayn Rand, a thinker I cherish for how within her school of thought of objectivism and faith in reason got married with Nietzsches irrationalism and speculations about the blind and irrepresible will within us. Makes 100 fucking percent sense to me.

By the way, did I tell you guys about how Im opening a NAMBLA chapter on top of Hadrian's Wall? Oh I havent? WELL LISTEN UP."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 31, 2020, 03:47:25 AM
 :lulz:

He's going to be an exhibit in that museum. His mummified body, holding a bottle of raw water and a copy of Atlas Shrugged, with a searchable archive of his collected internet postings on a panel outside of the glass case.

When you press a button, a halting Microsoft Sam TTS voice reads off a random sentence he has written. A nearby collection of paper cards encourages you to write down your favorites, so the tour guide can mock them for you at the end.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

That was Capitalism.  Subtle difference.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

That was Capitalism.  Subtle difference.

He was, among other things, the god of crooked deals.  So you can see how my mistake was reasonable.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:52:54 PM
Back to OP:

You end up with this, the Trump border wall, that apparently will need, essentially, to be left open for months at a time to accommodate flash flooding during the summer "monsoon season."

...along the more remote portions of the southern border, large unmanned gates that need to be manually raised ahead of the seasonal flooding, and then left open for months to accommodate the large amounts of debris carried with it, are already being waltzed through by smugglers and undocumented migrants.  (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-mexico-border-wall-gates-left-open-flash-floods.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:55:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:52:54 PM
Back to OP:

You end up with this, the Trump border wall, that apparently will need, essentially, to be left open for months at a time to accommodate flash flooding during the summer "monsoon season."

...along the more remote portions of the southern border, large unmanned gates that need to be manually raised ahead of the seasonal flooding, and then left open for months to accommodate the large amounts of debris carried with it, are already being waltzed through by smugglers and undocumented migrants.  (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-mexico-border-wall-gates-left-open-flash-floods.html)

It's even funnier than that.  During monsoon season here in Arizona, the floods pull up fence posts via hydraulic action.  Yanks 'em right up.   A friend of mine at Hook Crane has spent his entire career sticking fence posts back in the ground, that is with the far less ambitious "pre-trump" fence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 02:11:23 PM
Lamar Alexander used to give a shit about his country.  He was always on the opposite side from me on what WAS best, but he did what he thought was right.

Until now:

https://apnews.com/ee37eb770682651dd6bfec699767c63a

QuoteAlexander said in a statement late Thursday there was "no need for more evidence," giving the Trump team the likelihood of a Senate vote in its direction.

Imagine shitting all over your own honor at age 79.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 02:45:05 PM
Even though I knew for a certainty he would be acquitted, it still hurts to watch.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 02:45:05 PM
Even though I knew for a certainty he would be acquitted, it still hurts to watch.

The only thing that hurts to watch is guys like Alexander crapping all over an honorable career at the very end.

Watching Manchin and Collins hurts, but they hurt like smoking your last cigarette hurt, back when you were a smoker..."Later, when you're somebody else."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 09:48:25 PM
On the plus side, you never again have to worry about whether Lisa Murkowski is or is not a partisan hack.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 31, 2020, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

I think you mean Mammon. Mammon's the greed one, Moloch is the one that sets kids on fire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

That was Capitalism.  Subtle difference.

He was, among other things, the god of crooked deals.  So you can see how my mistake was reasonable.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This is why I PD.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 01, 2020, 04:08:19 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 31, 2020, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

I think you mean Mammon. Mammon's the greed one, Moloch is the one that sets kids on fire.

Mammon is literally money, and not a discreet god anyone worshiped.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 01, 2020, 04:09:36 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2020, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on January 31, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: altered on January 31, 2020, 01:01:28 AM
Eris wants credit for all the things she's done for us.

Eris wants to get into banking.

Bitch, she invented it.

Would have assumed Moloch did that.

That was Capitalism.  Subtle difference.

He was, among other things, the god of crooked deals.  So you can see how my mistake was reasonable.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This is why I PD.

I've been spending a lot of time at a couple of other forums while banned on FB and things being slow here.

I have fresh loads of jokes to steal from myself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2020, 07:48:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AJrKOhh.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 01, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2020, 07:48:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AJrKOhh.png)
:lulz: oh really?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2020, 10:49:48 PM
Maybe adding "one leader" at the end would have been too obvious?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 03, 2020, 01:36:30 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on January 28, 2020, 09:15:48 PM
I mean, I don't really believe in all that bible stuff, but you have to admit he does have a lot of the properties of the antichrist and/or the devil

For example, the constant talk by his supporters about how Trump speaks from his heart is reminiscent of John 8:44

You people are from your father, the devil, and you want to do what your father desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

Also Revelation 13:3 states that the beast will be wounded in the head, which could refer to Trump's dementia
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 01, 2020, 07:48:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AJrKOhh.png)

You can't make this kind of shit up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 02:04:20 PM
Here's the original story:

https://nypost.com/2020/01/30/white-house-lawyer-eric-herschmann-rallies-for-trump-at-impeachment-trial/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 03, 2020, 02:16:17 PM
It sounded better in the original German.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 03:01:35 PM
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1224172511732076545

AND YA DON'T STOP!

(The Kansas City Chiefs are from Kansas City, Missouri.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 03, 2020, 07:01:15 PM
More pointless harm for its own sake.

https://apnews.com/65965ca6d9958978a12e243e2dbe2017
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 05, 2020, 07:27:24 PM
Jesus fuck. I hope the military elects not to use that but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 07:40:47 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 05, 2020, 07:27:24 PM
Jesus fuck. I hope the military elects not to use that but I'm not holding my breath.

Nobody on this Earth hates landmines more than the infantry, but doctrine is written by senior officers who wish to have a celebrity seat at Morton Thiekol when they retire.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:19:30 PM
Who would have thought that here, at the end of all things, Mitt Romney would be a functional biped for the first time in his life?

https://apnews.com/93c85dcfb0e6b2185391965e77ebea51
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
This fucks up my comfortable ideas about redemption.   :argh!:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 05, 2020, 08:23:12 PM
He's making a bold wager that in 2028, Trump voters will be somewhat embarrassed with what they did in 2016-2024, and take another swing as a supposedly "Principled Republican" candidate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 05, 2020, 08:23:33 PM
Huh.

I'm not surprised so much that he would do this as I am that he actually truly holds his convictions. That's a rarity no matter who we're talking about, let alone once we single out politicians.

He legitimately cares about his beliefs. Well, fuck.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2020, 08:23:12 PM
He's making a bold wager that in 2028, Trump voters will be somewhat embarrassed with what they did in 2016-2024, and take another swing as a supposedly "Principled Republican" candidate.

He's probably correct, but it also assumes people will still be voting by then.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 05, 2020, 08:35:19 PM
Of course you know this means the acquittal is now a sure thing in fact, and not just in expectation. Romney wouldn't be casting this vote otherwise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 05, 2020, 08:35:19 PM
Of course you know this means the acquittal is now a sure thing in fact, and not just in expectation. Romney wouldn't be casting this vote otherwise.

I think he might.  Just the things he has done has made him a mortal enemy of Donald Trump and his base.

Besides, we already knew the acquittal was a sure thing.  We always knew that.

In related news, Collins has returned to lap dog mode and will be voting to acquit, while Doug Jones of all people will be voting to convict.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 05, 2020, 08:44:49 PM
It would be hilarious if the GOP got its signals crossed, and one too many people accidentally vote to convict.


But this is decisively not the best of all possible worlds, so I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 05, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 05, 2020, 08:35:19 PM
Of course you know this means the acquittal is now a sure thing in fact, and not just in expectation. Romney wouldn't be casting this vote otherwise.

I think he might.  Just the things he has done has made him a mortal enemy of Donald Trump and his base.

Besides, we already knew the acquittal was a sure thing.  We always knew that.

In related news, Collins has returned to lap dog mode and will be voting to acquit, while Doug Jones of all people will be voting to convict.

Susan Collins is like a splinter that keeps getting wedged farther and farther underneath every one of my fingernails simultaneously.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 05, 2020, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2020, 08:23:12 PM
He's making a bold wager that in 2028, Trump voters will be somewhat embarrassed with what they did in 2016-2024, and take another swing as a supposedly "Principled Republican" candidate.
Doesn't make up for him being a Mormon. 🤷 Like, my county voted blue in 2012 for the first time since the Southern Strategy bc we hate Mormons here more than black folks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2020, 08:44:49 PM

But this is decisively not the best of all possible worlds, so I'm not holding my breath.

I bet it fucking is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on February 05, 2020, 09:12:00 PM
I literally once registered republican so that I could get additional opportunities to vote against Romney

now I'm like "hurr durr maybe he can save america" 

This is some fucking game of thrones shit
:madbanana:



See also: John Bolton



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 05, 2020, 09:12:00 PM
I literally once registered republican so that I could get additional opportunities to vote against Romney

now I'm like "hurr durr maybe he can save america" 

This is some fucking game of thrones shit
:madbanana:



See also: John Bolton

Bolton played things a little TOO close to his vest and now he is marked for death by El Presidente.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2020, 09:54:40 PM
Trump acquitted on both charges, 57-43.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2020, 10:45:06 PM
No surprises, just weary resignation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 05, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Yep. We all knew it was a performance from the start.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2020, 12:05:21 AM
Maybe they'll flip the Senate...but it doesn't seem likely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: Juana on February 05, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Yep. We all knew it was a performance from the start.

I think the point of it was to get the Republicans to roll around in Trump's shit and tell us how much they like it.

So... mission accomplished, I guess.

EDIT:  VIDEO LINK DELETED.

Bruno, next time put a NSFW warning on that.  Not fucking kidding.

- Dok
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on February 06, 2020, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 12:05:21 AM
Maybe they'll flip the Senate...but it doesn't seem likely.

:lol:
if dems take the senate, I wonder if they can run an impeachment lightning round without calling any witnesses


ah, it's a fun / terrifying fantasy
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:54:14 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: Juana on February 05, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Yep. We all knew it was a performance from the start.

I think the point of it was to get the Republicans to roll around in Trump's shit and tell us how much they like it.

So... mission accomplished, I guess.



It was for me.  I just wanted them to say the quiet parts out loud.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 06, 2020, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 12:05:21 AM
Maybe they'll flip the Senate...but it doesn't seem likely.

:lol:
if dems take the senate, I wonder if they can run an impeachment lightning round without calling any witnesses


ah, it's a fun / terrifying fantasy

Fun fact:  There is no double jeopardy rule on impeachments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2020, 02:49:22 PM
I mean, the attack ads will write themselves for the Senate elections.

Whether they have any effect is another matter...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 02:49:22 PM
I mean, the attack ads will write themselves for the Senate elections.

Whether they have any effect is another matter...

My gut tells me that this is the way things are, now.  47% of the country is too invested in MAGA bullshit to walk away from it, and 47% will knife each other over hair-splitting ideological differences.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:15:12 PM
Well, then. 

https://apnews.com/504e331eeec5107afbe757e8d241a16d

QuoteIt was a whiplash message in contrast to the speakers who came before him, including keynote speaker and Harvard professor Arthur Brooks, who had described a "crisis of contempt and polarization" in the nation and urged those gathered to "love your enemies."

"I don't know if I agree with you," Trump said, and then he proceeded to demonstrate it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2020, 03:21:54 PM
Quote"I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong," he said in an apparent reference to Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, a longtime Trump critic who was the only Republican to vote for Trump's removal.

"Nor do I like people who say 'I pray for you' when you know that is not so,'" he said, in a reference to Pelosi.

I mean, he could have also been talking about evangelical Trump supporters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 03:21:54 PM
Quote"I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong," he said in an apparent reference to Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, a longtime Trump critic who was the only Republican to vote for Trump's removal.

"Nor do I like people who say 'I pray for you' when you know that is not so,'" he said, in a reference to Pelosi.

I mean, he could have also been talking about evangelical Trump supporters.

This is going to get really funny in an ugly sort of way, really quickly.  Trump is unhinged.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 06, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
Oh yes, and his appetite for revenge is only matched by his appetite for burned steak in ketchup.

In other news, AG Barr has passed a new guideline which basically means all politically sensitive investigations involving things such as, campaign irregularities or allegations of soliciting the help of foreign nations must be approved by him before being investigated.

So the fix is in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 06, 2020, 04:19:08 PM
Luckily, there are Intrepid JournalistsTM that will uncover th--


What's that?






Oh.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 05:01:13 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
Oh yes, and his appetite for revenge is only matched by his appetite for burned steak in ketchup.

In other news, AG Barr has passed a new guideline which basically means all politically sensitive investigations involving things such as, campaign irregularities or allegations of soliciting the help of foreign nations must be approved by him before being investigated.

So the fix is in.

We passed the point at which "the only solution involves bayonets" on October 11th, 2002.

It just took a while to kick in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:37:36 PM
Um, hey, Doc. You forgot to edit out that video where you quoted me in reply.

Also, my bad. Didn't really think about that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 06, 2020, 05:39:53 PM
Fun ways to troll from the Left:

On the first article of impeachment, abuse of power, Republican Sen. Mitt Romney joined every member of the Democratic caucus to vote to remove President Trump from office.

That means that the senators voting to convict represent about 170 million individuals — 18 million more people than the bloc of senators who voted to acquit. (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/6/21125403/senate-trump-acquitted-not-democratic-18-million-53-percent-malapportionment)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?

All it means is that he was not removed from office.  No other aspect is legally binding.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?
He's still impeached, tho, and now joins the "infamous seventeen" federal officials who have been. It's just a black spot on his record, essentially.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 08:02:02 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:37:36 PM
Um, hey, Doc. You forgot to edit out that video where you quoted me in reply.

Also, my bad. Didn't really think about that.

Thanks, got it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?
He's still impeached, tho, and now joins the "infamous seventeen" federal officials who have been. It's just a black spot on his record, essentially.

It's also completely unhinged him.

From our POV, it's like when the protagonist of Starship Troopers complains that the tattoo needle hurts, and his buddy says "no, this hurts" and pours bourbon on the affected area.

We're the guys with the bourbon bottle.  The rest of the world is the protagonist.

This is the best time to be alive, ever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 06, 2020, 09:08:23 PM
In light of all this I'd like to remind all of you to donate money to the Democratic party so hopefully we can unseat this clown. I donated 225 dollars this week
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 06, 2020, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 06, 2020, 09:08:23 PM
In light of all this I'd like to remind all of you to donate money to the Democratic party so hopefully we can unseat this clown. I donated 225 dollars this week

I'm not entirely convinced the Democrats want to unseat him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 06, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?
He's still impeached, tho, and now joins the "infamous seventeen" federal officials who have been. It's just a black spot on his record, essentially.

It's also completely unhinged him.

From our POV, it's like when the protagonist of Starship Troopers complains that the tattoo needle hurts, and his buddy says "no, this hurts" and pours bourbon on the affected area.

We're the guys with the bourbon bottle.  The rest of the world is the protagonist.

This is the best time to be alive, ever.
It sure fucking has! It's pretty horrormirth-y, especially bc he wasn't well hinged in the first place.

It's certainly very exciting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 06, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Bruno on February 06, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
I'm still a little vague on the verdict. Was he found to be not guilty, or acquitted on the grounds that using federal funds to extort a foreign leader into interfering in an election just isn't that big of a deal?
He's still impeached, tho, and now joins the "infamous seventeen" federal officials who have been. It's just a black spot on his record, essentially.

It's also completely unhinged him.

From our POV, it's like when the protagonist of Starship Troopers complains that the tattoo needle hurts, and his buddy says "no, this hurts" and pours bourbon on the affected area.

We're the guys with the bourbon bottle.  The rest of the world is the protagonist.

This is the best time to be alive, ever.
It sure fucking has! It's pretty horrormirth-y, especially bc he wasn't well hinged in the first place.

It's certainly very exciting.

Did you see that simpering toad in Utah go after Romney?

Even by today's standards, it's gag-worthy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481877-republican-utah-state-lawmaker-files-resolution-to-censure-romney-over?fbclid=IwAR3Z6ogV9xeZnk7AV54t4N_uD5q-OgMC_ZHnOHwLOygRCinZ4bOgrYbyn4g#.XjyDyhxipYs.facebook

Quote"We're not censuring him for voting his conscience. We're censuring him for the positions that he's taken through this whole process," Lyman said. "And to send a message that we want to have good relationships with the White House, we want to have good relationships with President Trump."

- State Rep. Phil Lyman, on his filing of an official censure of Mitt Romney for not voting to acquit Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on February 07, 2020, 03:45:13 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2020, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 06, 2020, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2020, 12:05:21 AM
Maybe they'll flip the Senate...but it doesn't seem likely.

:lol:
if dems take the senate, I wonder if they can run an impeachment lightning round without calling any witnesses


ah, it's a fun / terrifying fantasy

Fun fact:  There is no double jeopardy rule on impeachments.

There's also plenty of other things to impeach him for.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on February 07, 2020, 04:08:04 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on February 06, 2020, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 06, 2020, 09:08:23 PM
In light of all this I'd like to remind all of you to donate money to the Democratic party so hopefully we can unseat this clown. I donated 225 dollars this week

I'm not entirely convinced the Democrats want to unseat him.

I'm fairly convinced they don't.  He makes them all look wonderful.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 05:23:14 PM
Hoo boy.

https://apnews.com/e230131513bf3df60c76bb1151bc6b7c

Quote
'QAnon' conspiracy theory creeps into mainstream politics
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 05:57:09 PM
This is going to be the dumbest civil war ever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2020, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 05:57:09 PM
This is going to be the dumbest civil war ever.

I don't think that will happen.  I just think that one day the lights will go out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2020, 06:48:40 PM
I'm hoping it does, though.

I'm going to sell Q-shaped medallions that turn bullets to water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maji_Maji_Rebellion) on the internet if it does.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
From the Never Saw THIS Coming Department:

https://apnews.com/b8f19f83f70d382e563a68594b909bbc

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that the Pentagon should review the conduct of a former White House national security aide who played a central role in the Democrats' impeachment case and potentially consider disciplinary action against him.

And then this gem:

Quotequote]Robert O'Brien, Trump's national security adviser, said later Tuesday that Alexander Vindman was not asked to leave his White House job in retaliation for his testimony in the Democrats' impeachment case.

"There 's absolutely no retaliation with respect to the Vindmans as far as impeachment goes," O'Brien said at an event hosted by the Atlantic Council. "But the president is entitled to a staff that he has confidence in and that he believes will execute his policy."

So there's no retaliation, just a little retaliation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 12, 2020, 07:46:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2020, 05:57:09 PM
This is going to be the dumbest civil war ever.

When we're gone, no one will even name their sports teams after us.  :sad:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 12, 2020, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
From the Never Saw THIS Coming Department:

https://apnews.com/b8f19f83f70d382e563a68594b909bbc

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that the Pentagon should review the conduct of a former White House national security aide who played a central role in the Democrats' impeachment case and potentially consider disciplinary action against him.

And then this gem:

Quotequote]Robert O'Brien, Trump's national security adviser, said later Tuesday that Alexander Vindman was not asked to leave his White House job in retaliation for his testimony in the Democrats' impeachment case.

"There 's absolutely no retaliation with respect to the Vindmans as far as impeachment goes," O'Brien said at an event hosted by the Atlantic Council. "But the president is entitled to a staff that he has confidence in and that he believes will execute his policy."

So there's no retaliation, just a little retaliation.
It's amazing what horseshit he gets away with. Teflon Don indeed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 12, 2020, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
From the Never Saw THIS Coming Department:

https://apnews.com/b8f19f83f70d382e563a68594b909bbc

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that the Pentagon should review the conduct of a former White House national security aide who played a central role in the Democrats' impeachment case and potentially consider disciplinary action against him.

And then this gem:

Quotequote]Robert O'Brien, Trump's national security adviser, said later Tuesday that Alexander Vindman was not asked to leave his White House job in retaliation for his testimony in the Democrats' impeachment case.

"There 's absolutely no retaliation with respect to the Vindmans as far as impeachment goes," O'Brien said at an event hosted by the Atlantic Council. "But the president is entitled to a staff that he has confidence in and that he believes will execute his policy."

So there's no retaliation, just a little retaliation.
It's amazing what horseshit he gets away with. Teflon Don indeed.

That's on account of the dems categorically refusing to understand that the rules changed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 12, 2020, 08:17:19 PM
I believe at least the resignation of the prosecutors in the Roger Stone trial (yes, all four of them) now means there needs to be an independent review of the decision making process around the change in sentencing.

Of course it'll just mean Trump will pardon him instead, but it's something.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 12, 2020, 10:07:42 PM
Scroedinger's economy:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-cuts-scheduled-federal-pay-raise-serious-economic-conditions.html

QuoteIf you lived in a bubble where Twitter Trump was your sole news source, you'd be pretty fired up, which makes it odd that on Monday the very same Trump White House said it intends to slash a scheduled pay raise for civilian federal employees. Cutting the 2.5 percent raise set for 2021 to 1 percent for millions of federal workers seems a bit austere in the face of such self-proclaimed boom times. Even more absurdly, Trump is justifying ordering the cut on the grounds that the country is in the midst of a "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare," which the White House says authorizes the president to "implement alternative plans for pay adjustments."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 14, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/politics-news-pmn/barr-tells-trump-to-stop-tweeting-about-stone-case-juror-calls-it-appalling
Quote
"I'm not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody ... whether it's Congress, a newspaper editorial board or the president," Barr said. "I'm gonna do what I think is right. And you know ... I cannot do my job here at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me."

"I think it's time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases," Barr added.

I wonder if he'll last until November.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 14, 2020, 02:22:15 PM
Hah, you're assuming he's sincere.

I assume Barr is a lying shitweasel, and so I see this as "please Mr Trump, I need you to do crime more quietly".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 14, 2020, 02:30:25 PM
The lack of a "no, fuck you" tweet from Trump supports the theory this is a 'nudge nudge, wink wink' pseudo-complaint from Barr.

Also notice the weasel words.  "Trump has never had direct talks with the Justice Department".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 14, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
I am clearly not paranoid enough.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2020, 03:32:25 PM
Trump doubles down, Barr mushmouths.

https://apnews.com/db64d4eaf5f65604cb147645e822a262
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 14, 2020, 03:33:35 PM
Not to mention that Trump doesn't need to tell Barr what to do -- Barr's already a firm proponent of the unitary executive (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/14/21135083/justice-scalia-bill-barr-trump-unitary-executive-no-rule-of-law-morrison-olson) theory. 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on February 14, 2020, 06:38:38 PM
Newsweek suggests the whole thing was staged

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-barr-trump-rebuke-staged-white-house-heads-nixon-counsel-1487323?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1oypqWj5V02njoAkoYcfpMNojzFO01oxOnhPL9vXnESQiqrNZKkbK4ts4#Echobox=1581683783
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2020, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 14, 2020, 06:38:38 PM
Newsweek suggests the whole thing was staged

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-barr-trump-rebuke-staged-white-house-heads-nixon-counsel-1487323?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1oypqWj5V02njoAkoYcfpMNojzFO01oxOnhPL9vXnESQiqrNZKkbK4ts4#Echobox=1581683783

Well, yeah.  Barr is a complete toady.  He'd never actually complain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2020, 10:08:21 PM
Trump's gonna shit.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/ec85aa4a4fdc5a36b7b85c7a34f1b8f9
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 15, 2020, 12:58:53 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 14, 2020, 10:08:21 PM
Trump's gonna shit.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/ec85aa4a4fdc5a36b7b85c7a34f1b8f9
Oh, this is almost enough to make me consider following his Twitter.


Also, Border Patrol Will Deploy Elite Tactical Agents to Sanctuary Cities (http://"https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/Border-Patrol-ICE-Sanctuary-Cities.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0JyX26XnrYbkCyQSJCxmEIAXmqtTYf8rtVErGzf-O7PEPQBHHA1wsA4rc)
QuoteAgents from a special tactical team that normally confronts smugglers on the border are being sent to sanctuary cities across the country.The Trump administration is deploying law enforcement tactical units from the southern border as part of a supercharged arrest operation in sanctuary cities across the country, an escalation in the president's battle against localities that refuse to participate in immigration enforcement.

The specially trained officers are being sent to cities including Chicago and New York to boost the enforcement power of local Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers, according to two officials who are familiar with the secret operation. Additional agents are expected to be sent to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Houston, Boston, New Orleans, Detroit and Newark, N.J.

The move reflects President Trump's persistence in cracking down on so-called sanctuary cities, localities that have refused to cooperate in handing over immigrants targeted for deportation to federal authorities. It comes soon after the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security announced a series of measures that will affect both American citizens and immigrants living in those places.

Lawrence Payne, a spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, confirmed that the agency was deploying 100 officers to work with ICE, which conducts arrests in the interior of the country, "in order to enhance the integrity of the immigration system, protect public safety, and strengthen our national security."The deployment of the teams will run from February through May, according to an email sent to C.B.P. personnel, which was read to The New York Times by one official familiar with the planning.

Among the agents being deployed to sanctuary cities are members of the elite tactical unit known as BORTAC, which acts essentially as the SWAT team of the Border Patrol. With additional gear such as stun grenades and enhanced Special Forces-type training, including sniper certification, the officers typically conduct high-risk operations targeting individuals who are known to be violent, many of them with extensive criminal records.

The unit's work often takes place in the most rugged and swelteringly hot areas of the border. It can involve breaking into stash houses maintained by smuggling operations that are known to be filled with drugs and weapons.

In sanctuary cities, the BORTAC agents will be asked to support interior officers in run-of-the-mill immigration arrests, the officials said. Their presence could spark new fear in immigrant communities that have been on high alert under the stepped-up deportation and detention policies adopted after Mr. Trump took office.

The deployment of the teams will run from February through May, according to an email sent to C.B.P. personnel, which was read to The New York Times by one official familiar with the planning.

Among the agents being deployed to sanctuary cities are members of the elite tactical unit known as BORTAC, which acts essentially as the SWAT team of the Border Patrol. With additional gear such as stun grenades and enhanced Special Forces-type training, including sniper certification, the officers typically conduct high-risk operations targeting individuals who are known to be violent, many of them with extensive criminal records.

The unit's work often takes place in the most rugged and swelteringly hot areas of the border. It can involve breaking into stash houses maintained by smuggling operations that are known to be filled with drugs and weapons.

In sanctuary cities, the BORTAC agents will be asked to support interior officers in run-of-the-mill immigration arrests, the officials said. Their presence could spark new fear in immigrant communities that have been on high alert under the stepped-up deportation and detention policies adopted after Mr. Trump took office.In a statement, ICE's acting director, Matthew T. Albence, said the deployment comes in response to policies adopted by sanctuary cities, which have made it harder for immigration agents to do their jobs.

"As we have noted for years, in jurisdictions where we are not allowed to assume custody of aliens from jails, our officers are forced to make at-large arrests of criminal aliens who have been released into communities," he said. "When sanctuary cities release these criminals back to the street, it increases the occurrence of preventable crimes, and more importantly, preventable victims."

But Gil Kerlikowske, the former commissioner of C.B.P., which oversees tactical units along the border, said sending the officers to conduct immigration enforcement within cities, where they are not trained to work, could escalate situations that are already volatile. He called the move a "significant mistake."

"If you were a police chief and you were going to make an apprehension for a relatively minor offense, you don't send the SWAT team. And BORTAC is the SWAT team," said Mr. Kerlikowske, who is a former chief of police in Seattle. "They're trained for much more hazardous missions than this."It was a gun-wielding BORTAC agent who, in April 2000, seized Elian Gonzalez — a Cuban boy who was embroiled in an international asylum controversy — from his uncle's arms after agents had forced their way into the home where the boy was staying.

The Border Patrol squads will be charged with backing up ICE agents during deportation operations and standing by as a show of force, the officials said.

ICE agents typically seek out people with criminal convictions or multiple immigration violations as their primary targets for deportation, but family members and friends are often swept up in the enforcement net in what are known as "collateral" arrests, and many such people could now be caught up in any enhanced operations.

ICE leadership requested the help in sanctuary jurisdictions because agents there often struggle to track down undocumented immigrants without the help of the police and other state and local agencies. Law enforcement officers in areas that refuse to cooperate with ICE and the Border Patrol — which include both liberal and conservative parts of the country — often argue that doing so pushes undocumented people further into the shadows, ultimately making cities less safe because that segment of the population becomes less likely to report crimes or cooperate with investigations.The goal of the new joint operation, one of the officials said, was to increase arrests in the sanctuary jurisdictions by at least 35 percent.

The operation reflects an increasingly hawkish approach to immigration enforcement, following the firings and resignations of leaders who have been viewed in the White House as unwilling to take the harsh steps Mr. Trump and his advisers view as necessary to slow illegal immigration.Other recent attempts at aggressive enforcement by ICE have faltered, such as a series of raids targeting more than 2,000 migrant families that were planned during the summer of 2019. Mr. Trump's advance warnings on Twitter led many of those who were targeted to refuse to open their front doors, and ultimately, only 35 of those who had been targeted were arrested in the operation's first several weeks.

The goal of the new joint operation, one of the officials said, was to increase arrests in the sanctuary jurisdictions by at least 35 percent.

The operation reflects an increasingly hawkish approach to immigration enforcement, following the firings and resignations of leaders who have been viewed in the White House as unwilling to take the harsh steps Mr. Trump and his advisers view as necessary to slow illegal immigration.Other recent attempts at aggressive enforcement by ICE have faltered, such as a series of raids targeting more than 2,000 migrant families that were planned during the summer of 2019. Mr. Trump's advance warnings on Twitter led many of those who were targeted to refuse to open their front doors, and ultimately, only 35 of those who had been targeted were arrested in the operation's first several weeks.Even with the added show of force from BORTAC, agents will be limited in their abilities compared to the police or sheriff's deputies. Unlike operations on the border, where BORTAC agents may engage in armed confrontations with drug-smuggling suspects using armored vehicles, immigration agents in cities are enforcing civil infractions rather than criminal ones. They are not allowed to forcibly enter properties in order to make arrests, and the presence of BORTAC agents, while helpful in boosting the number of agents on the ground, may prove most useful for the visual message it sends.

The agents will not be busting down doors or engaging in shootouts, said one official with direct knowledge of the operation, who like the other official would not be identified because he was not authorized to discuss it.

Some C.B.P. agents are permitted certain enforcement powers, including setting up immigration checkpoints, within 100 miles of a land or coastal port.

Naureen Shah, senior advocacy and policy counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, questioned whether the teams would use that authority in the targeted cities, most of which are within that 100-mile zone."This is about further militarizing our streets," Ms. Shah said. "It could actually have deadly effects. We could see C.B.P. officers who aren't trained for interior enforcement using aggressive force."

Many ICE agents say their jobs have become increasingly difficult, three years into Mr. Trump's presidency, because of robust campaigns by immigrant advocacy organizations seeking to safeguard undocumented immigrants by educating them on the legal limitations that ICE officers face. As a result, in many communities where undocumented immigrants live, people now turn immediately to their phones when ICE agents are spotted to alert neighbors that they should stay inside.

Mr. Trump campaigned on a promise to crack down on sanctuary cities. Within a few months of taking office, the Justice Department moved to withhold certain federal funds from the jurisdictions. Last week, the department filed suit against state and local governments in California, New Jersey and Washington State over sanctuary policies there. Also this month, the Department of Homeland Security announced it would ban New Yorkers from enrolling in programs that allow travelers to speed through customs checkpoints in airports and at the border as a result of the state's decision to offer driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants and bar Homeland Security agencies from accessing the state's motor vehicle database.

The president again highlighted the issue in his State of the Union address, arguing that sanctuary cities "release dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public."In January, a New York City Council member wrote an open letter for his fellow councilors expressing concern about increasing ICE activity in the region, including collateral arrests. Last week, an acquaintance of a man in New York who was being arrested by ICE was shot in an incident that the agency later blamed on sanctuary policies.

The aggressive immigration enforcement tactics being implemented around the country are not limited to any one agency. In a widely circulated video recorded in El Paso on Tuesday night, Border Patrol agents are shown subduing and using a Taser to apprehend a man in a Burger King restaurant.

The video shows the man pleading repeatedly with the agents while shouting that he had done nothing wrong. A bystander asks the agents to leave the restaurant, as she cries while witnessing the episode. While the man was writhing in pain on the floor after being stunned repeatedly, another woman in the video approached the agents and asked, "Why are you still hitting him?"

A Border Patrol spokesman said in a statement that the apprehended man was a "suspected alien smuggler," without offering any evidence to support that assertion. The spokesman did not respond to a request for the man's name and nationality.

"The man refused to cooperate with the verbal instructions and attempted to avoid being handcuffed and a struggle ensued," the Border Patrol spokesman said.

In the same statement, the spokesman said that a "citizen" had notified law enforcement of a suspicious vehicle parked on his property. The Border Patrol said the man apprehended by the agents on Tuesday was the driver of the vehicle and that "record checks indicated that the man was in the country illegally and had a positive criminal history."

An ICE spokesman declined to comment on the specifics of the latest effort in sanctuary cities, citing the agency's policy against sharing information about enforcement operations before they have taken place. However, the spokesman added that the agency had "made it abundantly clear for years that, in jurisdictions where we are not allowed to assume custody of aliens from jails, our officers would be redirected to make at-large arrests."

Let's hope community action can continue to shield undocumented folks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on February 15, 2020, 02:27:15 AM
Now he's trying to extort New York into dropping their cases against him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/trump-new-york-investigations-114991
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2020, 07:39:40 PM
Apparently, selling a senate seat isn't a big deal.

https://apnews.com/e73b905b352c771372ae3b09f42dd40a

QuoteCHICAGO (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday commuted the 14-year prison sentence of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, calling the sentence "ridiculous." Blagojevich was convicted of political corruption just months after he appeared on Trump's reality TV show, "Celebrity Apprentice."

Blagojevich, who hails from a state with a long history of pay-to-play schemes, is expected to walk out of prison later Tuesday, according to a person close to him, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not seen any signed paperwork. He had been found guilty of crimes that included seeking to sell an appointment to Barack Obama's old Senate seat and trying to shake down a children's hospital.

The 63-year-old Democrat exhausted his last appellate option in 2018 and had seemed destined to remain behind bars until his projected 2024 release date. His wife, Patti, went on a media blitz in 2018 to encourage Trump to step in, praising the president and likening the investigation of her husband to special prosecutor Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election — a probe Trump long characterized as a "witchhunt."

"Rod Blagojevich, the former Governor of Illinois, was sentenced to 14 years in prison. He has served 7 years," Trump had tweeted in August of 2019. "Many people have asked that I study the possibility of commuting his sentence in that it was a very severe one. White House staff is continuing the review of this matter."

Bolding mine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2020, 08:34:12 PM
All victimless crimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2020, 08:42:50 PM
But WAIT!  There's MORE!

Seems like he's letting every white collar criminal in the country loose:

https://apnews.com/891502957061cc47823e3dc2e7b07c49
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2020, 08:59:14 PM
Well, why not? It's not like the Senate are going to tell him to stop...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 19, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Sen. Collins was right: He certainly has learned his lesson.*





*The lesson being, "nothing matters anymore, and actions do not have consequences."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 19, 2020, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 19, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Sen. Collins was right: He certainly has learned his lesson.*





*The lesson being, "nothing matters anymore, and actions do not have consequences."
They've been calling him "Teflon Don" for years, haven't they? Longer than he's been president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 19, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
Oh, hey, this looks kinda important https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/19/donald-trump-offered-julian-assange-pardon-russia-hack-wikileaks

QuoteDonald Trump offered Julian Assange a pardon if he would say Russia was not involved in leaking Democratic party emails, a court in London has been told.

The extraordinary claim was made at Westminster magistrates court before the opening next week of Assange's legal battle to block attempts to extradite him to the US.

Assange's barrister, Edward Fitzgerald QC, referred to evidence alleging that the former US Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher had been to see Assange, now 48, while he was still in the Ecuadorian embassy in August 2017.

A statement from Assange's lawyer Jennifer Robinson shows "Mr Rohrabacher going to see Mr Assange and saying, on instructions from the president, he was offering a pardon or some other way out, if Mr Assange ... said Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks", Fitzgerald told Westminster magistrates court.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on February 19, 2020, 06:09:49 PM
This may also explain Farage's inexplicable pop in for tea and a chat
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 19, 2020, 06:45:18 PM
Indeed. Of course it is worth noting that the Congressman who delivered the offer, Dana Rohrabacher, was commonly described by his own party's senators and congresspeople as being on the take from Russia.

One wonders if he was delivering a message on the behalf of more than one interested party.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 20, 2020, 02:37:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 19, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
Oh, hey, this looks kinda important https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/19/donald-trump-offered-julian-assange-pardon-russia-hack-wikileaks

QuoteDonald Trump offered Julian Assange a pardon if he would say Russia was not involved in leaking Democratic party emails, a court in London has been told.

The extraordinary claim was made at Westminster magistrates court before the opening next week of Assange's legal battle to block attempts to extradite him to the US.

Assange's barrister, Edward Fitzgerald QC, referred to evidence alleging that the former US Republican congressman Dana Rohrabacher had been to see Assange, now 48, while he was still in the Ecuadorian embassy in August 2017.

A statement from Assange's lawyer Jennifer Robinson shows "Mr Rohrabacher going to see Mr Assange and saying, on instructions from the president, he was offering a pardon or some other way out, if Mr Assange ... said Russia had nothing to do with the DNC leaks", Fitzgerald told Westminster magistrates court.

:lulz:

I laugh, because there is nothing I can do.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2020, 05:38:16 PM
It gets better, Rohrabacher has confirmed the offer was made

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rohrabacher-confirms-he-offered-trump-pardon-to-assange-for-proof-russia-didnt-hack-dnc-email/ar-BB10cxji?ocid=sf2
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 21, 2020, 11:47:57 AM
So, this puts a whole new spin on the appointment of Grenell:

https://apnews.com/4912baca0c4cbc6cb7a3580f4f3c9b96

QuoteIntelligence officials have warned lawmakers that Russia is interfering in the 2020 election campaign to help President Donald Trump get reelected, three officials familiar with the closed-door briefing said Thursday.

The warning raises questions about the integrity of the presidential campaign and whether Trump's administration is taking the proper steps to combat the kind of interference that the U.S. saw in 2016.

The officials asked for anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. They said the briefing last week focused on Russia's efforts to influence the 2020 election and sow discord in the American electorate.

The warning was first reported by The New York Times and The Washington Post.A senior administration officialsaid the news infuriated Trump, who complained that Democrats would use the information against him. Over the course of his presidency, Trump has dismissed the intelligence community's assessment of Russia's 2016 election interference as a conspiracy to undermine his victory.The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private meeting.

One day after the Feb. 13 briefing to the House Intelligence Committee, Trump berated the then-director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, and he announced this week that Maguire would be replaced by Richard Grenell, a Trump loyalist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 21, 2020, 06:45:22 PM
Oh boy.

QuoteThe warning was first reported by The New York Times and The Washington Post.A senior administration officialsaid the news infuriated Trump, who complained that Democrats would use the information against him.
The hypocrisy of this guy knows no bounds. :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2020, 09:54:09 PM
Every day, we drift farther away from Kevin's light.

https://apnews.com/e069e5a84057752a8535b1abe5d2ba6d
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 24, 2020, 09:57:44 PM
Also, this is what happens when you elect GOP presidents and senators at the same time.  You get freaks in the judiciary.

https://apnews.com/50e99e7c4bf336c073c14782ec329c49
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2020, 05:19:41 AM
What Trump has done to the judiciary is going to take at least a decade to sort out. He can't find the time to ensure his actual departments have proper leaders (instead of this "acting leader" bullshit, even with a compliant Senate) but he has enough time to oversea thousands of judicial appointments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2020, 01:07:42 PM
Unless we can find a way to fast track the impeachment of judges, the country's gonna be an ethno-christian, kleptocratic right-wing monstrosity of cruelty for at least two generations.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM
Trump may have the answer!  :lulz:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-raises-eyebrows-saying-we-should-get-rid-judges

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on February 25, 2020, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM
Trump may have the answer!  :lulz:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-raises-eyebrows-saying-we-should-get-rid-judges

Tbh, Mexico has spent a bunch of resources on its southern border, enforcing immigration containment as Trump demanded for fear of economic retaliation.... it really pissed off our nationalistic and left wing people.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on February 25, 2020, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM
Trump may have the answer!  :lulz:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-raises-eyebrows-saying-we-should-get-rid-judges

Tbh, Mexico has spent a bunch of resources on its southern border, enforcing immigration containment as Trump demanded for fear of economic retaliation.... it really pissed off our nationalistic and left wing people.

I am unsure how that relates to Trump wanting to eliminate judges as a concept.   :belgian:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
Gabbard will be slobbering all over Trump by this time tomorrow.

https://apnews.com/2ea28e127629341e3c9a33b33eae198f

Quote

Trump defends Modi, refuses to weigh in on citizenship law
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 25, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
Thinking about Gabbard in general, my animal instinct is to flatten my ears against my head, roll my eyes up till the whites show, bare my teeth, and trill like a cicada stuck in a Commodore 64.

Thinking about Gabbard and Trump together calms my soul somehow. Yes, this is how it was supposed to be. And then I get back to No Good Plotting for the Gay Agenda in my evil lair.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 06:35:02 PM
Quote from: altered on February 25, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
Thinking about Gabbard in general, my animal instinct is to flatten my ears against my head, roll my eyes up till the whites show, bare my teeth, and trill like a cicada stuck in a Commodore 64.

This is newsfeed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 06:46:55 PM
https://apnews.com/d8d33d3638b6c88c5827269f9a4fb799

QuotePompeo blasts China, Iran for response to virus outbreak

Meanwhile, the CDC is being further cut by 16%, and we already fired our entire pandemic team two and a half years ago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2020, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: altered on February 25, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
And then I get back to No Good Plotting for the Gay Agenda in my evil lair.

I would like an invitation to this slumber party.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 25, 2020, 07:24:16 PM
Yeah. Imagine if the whole Reston, VA thing happened today? Imagine if it was human transmissible, not just monkey Ebola? Imagine.

Quote from: LMNO on February 25, 2020, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: altered on February 25, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
And then I get back to No Good Plotting for the Gay Agenda in my evil lair.

I would like an invitation to this slumber party.


I can't offer an invitation, but I'll cc you the minutes. (Sorry, Chicago stole me away.)

Based on the discussion leading up to the next meeting: glitter and synth pop is out, Morbid Angel inspired death metal is in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2020, 07:31:11 PM
Ugh, and here I am, with a house full of sparkling wigs and feathers.

Sigh.  Don't mind me, I'll be in the back, hustling the rough trade.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on February 25, 2020, 07:36:46 PM
I hear tell that glitter is very in in the U.K. because of all the fearmongering around drag queens reading books to children. You could always pretend to be British?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 09:09:43 PM
tmw you take judge-shopping to a whole new level.

https://apnews.com/68fc06fde3d8d1b0fbf473d6721e7fdc

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 26, 2020, 02:37:24 AM
I would also like the minutes for the Evil Gay Agenda.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 25, 2020, 09:09:43 PM
tmw you take judge-shopping to a whole new level.

https://apnews.com/68fc06fde3d8d1b0fbf473d6721e7fdc

:lulz:
What a novel idea.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://apnews.com/85df3b354137f9495b21fbcee02311f5

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Flush with cash, President Donald Trump's campaign is stepping up its outreach to black Americans as it tries to claw away support from the traditionally Democratic voting bloc ahead of November's general election.

Trump's campaign is announcing Wednesday that it is opening 15 "Black Voices for Trump Community Centers" in the coming weeks in major cities in battleground states.

"While the other side is focused on beating up each other, we're focused on growing the party," said Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner. "You're never going to get the votes you don't ask for."

The offices will feature a line of campaign swag adopting the "woke" label, and videos of prominent Trump surrogates like Diamond and Silk explaining their support for the president and pamphlets outlining the president's record.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 27, 2020, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://apnews.com/85df3b354137f9495b21fbcee02311f5

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Flush with cash, President Donald Trump's campaign is stepping up its outreach to black Americans as it tries to claw away support from the traditionally Democratic voting bloc ahead of November's general election.

Trump's campaign is announcing Wednesday that it is opening 15 "Black Voices for Trump Community Centers" in the coming weeks in major cities in battleground states.

"While the other side is focused on beating up each other, we're focused on growing the party," said Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner. "You're never going to get the votes you don't ask for."

The offices will feature a line of campaign swag adopting the "woke" label, and videos of prominent Trump surrogates like Diamond and Silk explaining their support for the president and pamphlets outlining the president's record.
Oh, that's definitely going to sell well and appeal to Black voters.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
On the plus side, this will cause mass confusion among the UK press pundits, who universally refer to "woke" as the next SJW/PC police. Especially since these people worship Trump, I forsee a lot of cognitive dissonance in the near future.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 27, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
On the plus side, this will cause mass confusion among the UK press pundits, who universally refer to "woke" as the next SJW/PC police. Especially since these people worship Trump, I forsee a lot of cognitive dissonance in the near future.

It's like having your drunk uncle trying to dance at a wedding.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 27, 2020, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://apnews.com/85df3b354137f9495b21fbcee02311f5

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Flush with cash, President Donald Trump's campaign is stepping up its outreach to black Americans as it tries to claw away support from the traditionally Democratic voting bloc ahead of November's general election.

Trump's campaign is announcing Wednesday that it is opening 15 "Black Voices for Trump Community Centers" in the coming weeks in major cities in battleground states.

"While the other side is focused on beating up each other, we're focused on growing the party," said Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner. "You're never going to get the votes you don't ask for."

The offices will feature a line of campaign swag adopting the "woke" label, and videos of prominent Trump surrogates like Diamond and Silk explaining their support for the president and pamphlets outlining the president's record.
Oh, that's definitely going to sell well and appeal to Black voters.

Maybe they'll try to "speak Jive."   :lol:

This is sort of a new low.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 27, 2020, 08:42:47 PM
Yep! They're trying to pull a 4chan and appropriate the word. We'll see how that plays out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 27, 2020, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: Juana on February 27, 2020, 08:42:47 PM
Yep! They're trying to pull a 4chan and appropriate the word. We'll see how that plays out.

I'm already cringing so hard my ass is whistling.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on February 28, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
a dream about effective democrats

https://twitter.com/tburages/status/1227817449715830784

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 12:24:01 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 28, 2020, 12:09:16 AM
a dream about effective democrats

https://twitter.com/tburages/status/1227817449715830784

But it was *safer* for senate dems to go after Franken.

This is why the dems are fucking useless.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 07:45:45 AM
I suspect we will see a very effective Congress if Sanders becomes President.

Just a feeling, but if he wins the primaries and then the election, especially if the Democrats hold the House and/or take the Senate, you will see legislative power wielded like it never has been before.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 08:09:02 AM
I base this mostly on how I see a lot of moderate Dems absolutely shitting themselves in Corbynesque, bedwetting terms about what a Sanders victory would mean, while certain "influential backers" on Wall Street openly muse if Trump is really as bad as Sanders would be.

It's the anti-Corbyn playbook all over again. They'll aim for a brokered convention and if that fails, the process of talking themselves into justifying voting for Trump (or just staying at home and doing nothing) has already begun. And if that fails, they'll hamstring his Presidency every step of the way.

And it's not like Corbyn or Sanders are really that radical either (Corbyn was moreso than Sanders, but still well within European political norms). The system is just that opposed to any kind of gradual reformism. And we all know what happens when gradual reform becomes impossible...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 08:09:02 AM
I base this mostly on how I see a lot of moderate Dems absolutely shitting themselves in Corbynesque, bedwetting terms about what a Sanders victory would mean, while certain "influential backers" on Wall Street openly muse if Trump is really as bad as Sanders would be.

It's the anti-Corbyn playbook all over again. They'll aim for a brokered convention and if that fails, the process of talking themselves into justifying voting for Trump (or just staying at home and doing nothing) has already begun. And if that fails, they'll hamstring his Presidency every step of the way.

And it's not like Corbyn or Sanders are really that radical either (Corbyn was moreso than Sanders, but still well within European political norms). The system is just that opposed to any kind of gradual reformism. And we all know what happens when gradual reform becomes impossible...

Yep.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 01:50:32 PM
There are now tertiary symptomatic victims in California.

And the feds just said that they're not worried because this thing isn't very contagious.


https://apnews.com/57177e2e35d7d0d518361166935c614e

QuoteSolano County Public Health Officer Dr. Bela Matyas said public health officials have identified dozens of people — but less than 100 — who had close contact with the woman. Those people are quarantined in their homes. A few have shown symptoms and are in isolation, Matyas said.

Officials are not too worried, for now, about casual contact, because federal officials think the coronavirus is spread only through "close contact, being within six feet of somebody for what they're calling a prolonged period of time," said Dr. James Watt, interim state epidemiologist at the California Department of Public Health.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 28, 2020, 02:42:42 PM
Have we posted this yet?

A number of government workers from the Department of Health and Human Services met and interacted with Americans who had been evacuated from Wuhan, China, even though the workers had not been wearing proper protective gear and had not been trained for handling infectious diseases in a health emergency, a whistleblower alleged Wednesday. (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/whistleblower-coronavirus-hhs-staff-protective-gear.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 28, 2020, 02:42:42 PM
Have we posted this yet?

A number of government workers from the Department of Health and Human Services met and interacted with Americans who had been evacuated from Wuhan, China, even though the workers had not been wearing proper protective gear and had not been trained for handling infectious diseases in a health emergency, a whistleblower alleged Wednesday. (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/whistleblower-coronavirus-hhs-staff-protective-gear.html)

It has in fact been mentioned.  It is how the woman in CA is believed to have been exposed.

Because at the end of each day, the exposed workers went back to their hotels, etc, and ate in restaurants.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on February 28, 2020, 02:51:12 PM
I had a sneaking suspicion someone had already posted it, but I was too lazy to click back a page.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 04:58:45 PM
It's worth mentioning again anyway, as it is a fuckup of epic proportions. Sure, the US wasn't going to keep the virus out forever, not with that level of an incubation period. At the same time, that doesn't mean you should wander around tents filled with sick people for days with no protective gear on, then spend Friday night in a restuarant before you fly out on a standard passenger airline on the weekend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 05:09:06 PM
Yeah. I've played Plague Inc for many years. It not a truly realistic simulation, it's a game, but as I read the news it's

1 airborne. I have many times slain all humaity with just this vector in a virus due to high mutation chance alone.

2 animalborne. This vector can be worst because the carrier animal may very well be asymptomatic and carry for life and shortly after death. Viruses with this vector are fucking horrible because of increased chance of mutation as it passes through novel animal systems and overcomes immune systems. I think this one is in play if a rumour I heard that China is encouraging pet euthanasia.

3 surface tenacity. Lysol or alcohol work fine for coron virus sanitizer, but unsanitized surfaces may remain infectious long after the water from a sneeze on a table, say, has dried up and become basically imperceptible. Resisting dessication for a time makes all the difference.

4 long gestation time before symptom presentation, and symptom presentation that starts like common nuisance illnesses. This is the killer. This factor is pretty much the whole Plague Inc strategy. Spread before detection, be hard to confirm, be hard to safely study to prevent cure.

Virus is a fun model to play, but I prefer carnivorous fungus. Spores are amazingly durable vectors.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 04:58:45 PM
It's worth mentioning again anyway, as it is a fuckup of epic proportions. Sure, the US wasn't going to keep the virus out forever, not with that level of an incubation period. At the same time, that doesn't mean you should wander around tents filled with sick people for days with no protective gear on, then spend Friday night in a restuarant before you fly out on a standard passenger airline on the weekend.

It's worth mentioning that China did everything RIGHT.

Every single thing that could be realistically done was done.  We are doing everything exactly backwards because we need a crisis.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Yeah. China basically sacrificed Wuhan (and everyone and everything financially productive in it) to try and keep this contained. The measures may have been extreme, but they did act with IMO the best of intentions.

Though a lot of Chinese commentators did say the response time was flawed and the initial reporting was bad. Well, they didn't actually say it, but they talked a LOT about the Chernobyl TV series in a very guarded way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 04:58:45 PM
It's worth mentioning again anyway, as it is a fuckup of epic proportions. Sure, the US wasn't going to keep the virus out forever, not with that level of an incubation period. At the same time, that doesn't mean you should wander around tents filled with sick people for days with no protective gear on, then spend Friday night in a restuarant before you fly out on a standard passenger airline on the weekend.

It's worth mentioning that China did everything RIGHT.

Every single thing that could be realistically done was done.  We are doing everything exactly backwards because we need a crisis.

Yeah. There's a lot of money and power to be had from a medical crisis. Imagine Trump circumventing election entirety on pretext of national emergency he CREATED. That is what worries me about this particular corona virus. It will kill, sure, but it could also serve a much more dangerous pretext to a power play vastly more dangerous.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Yeah. China basically sacrificed Wuhan (and everyone and everything financially productive in it) to try and keep this contained. The measures may have been extreme, but they did act with IMO the best of intentions.

Though a lot of Chinese commentators did say the response time was flawed and the initial reporting was bad. Well, they didn't actually say it, but they talked a LOT about the Chernobyl TV series in a very guarded way.

Yeah. Authoritarian power structure does have certain advantages. One is unilateral containment done swiftly, usually abused against dissenting thought, but useful in suppressing malicious biological data too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
The thing is though, doing that suggests that Trump fucked up the response. So I don't see it happening. Instead there will be official denial, a coverup and the minimal amount of effort with a PR campaign to make it look like everything is being done that could be.

What really worries me is if quarantine comes into effect in populated areas, especially in conjunction with food shortages due to a combination of panic buying and disruption to global supply chains caused by the virus elsewhere.

Remember all those crazy "FEMA death camp" conspiracy theories too? I haven't checked in with the usual suspects, but I bet the militias are suggesting that the virus is an NWO bioweapon so they will be put under military control and have their guns taken away (because that's always the endgame). I can see these morons purposefully breaking quarantine restrictions at a minimum.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Yeah. China basically sacrificed Wuhan (and everyone and everything financially productive in it) to try and keep this contained. The measures may have been extreme, but they did act with IMO the best of intentions.

Though a lot of Chinese commentators did say the response time was flawed and the initial reporting was bad. Well, they didn't actually say it, but they talked a LOT about the Chernobyl TV series in a very guarded way.

In a model that didn't involve human beings, I can think of plenty of better ways to do what they were doing.

In a model in which you have to holler at humans to put a mask on in public in the middle of a raging epidemic, I think they did just fine.  They bought us 6 weeks that we of course wasted.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 06:00:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
The thing is though, doing that suggests that Trump fucked up the response. So I don't see it happening. Instead there will be official denial, a coverup and the minimal amount of effort with a PR campaign to make it look like everything is being done that could be.

What really worries me is if quarantine comes into effect in populated areas, especially in conjunction with food shortages due to a combination of panic buying and disruption to global supply chains caused by the virus elsewhere.

Remember all those crazy "FEMA death camp" conspiracy theories too? I haven't checked in with the usual suspects, but I bet the militias are suggesting that the virus is an NWO bioweapon so they will be put under military control and have their guns taken away (because that's always the endgame). I can see these morons purposefully breaking quarantine restrictions at a minimum.
Yeah. It's gonna get fucked up in the US particularly. I intend to be prepared as well as I can given all the important shit currently on my plate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
The thing is though, doing that suggests that Trump fucked up the response. So I don't see it happening. Instead there will be official denial, a coverup and the minimal amount of effort with a PR campaign to make it look like everything is being done that could be.

What really worries me is if quarantine comes into effect in populated areas, especially in conjunction with food shortages due to a combination of panic buying and disruption to global supply chains caused by the virus elsewhere.

Remember all those crazy "FEMA death camp" conspiracy theories too? I haven't checked in with the usual suspects, but I bet the militias are suggesting that the virus is an NWO bioweapon so they will be put under military control and have their guns taken away (because that's always the endgame). I can see these morons purposefully breaking quarantine restrictions at a minimum.

Dude, 80% of Facebook on both sides of the aisle are hollering that this is a bioweapon.  It's like the chemtrails thing, it assumes that somehow the elite are immune.  It makes me crazy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
 How I feel when I hear the bioweapon theory, which coincidentally my brother just expressed as I write this I corrected him and he listened to me, but just by way of example of the extent of that misconception I think it's worth mentioning.

He doesn't even know that it's a class of virus. He basically thought corona virus was a proper noun for a unique bioweapon.

We're FUCKED.
:um:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
I've been banned from a lot of conspiracy groups and I haven't felt like logging in on one of my alts. I knew Russian botnets were spreading the theory, but I didn't know how much traction it had.

I'd also like to think if someone invented a virus to devastate the global population as part of a sinister plot, that they could do better than "slightly more virulent flu".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 28, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Well, there was a report of someone in Japan who tested positive twice.  I suspect that she either wasn't cured completely, or someone messed up the labwork, but an intermittently lethal virus that humans can't develop a long-term immunity to would be a pretty neat doomsday weapon.

If it doesn't get you the first time, just wait for the next go-around!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on February 28, 2020, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 01:50:32 PM
There are now tertiary symptomatic victims in California.
Like I said, there's been a lot more cases here than have been reported, dating back some weeks. A friend of a friend works for a state agency and had been to meetings about it, and that's what she's been saying.

Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 28, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Well, there was a report of someone in Japan who tested positive twice.  I suspect that she either wasn't cured completely, or someone messed up the labwork, but an intermittently lethal virus that humans can't develop a long-term immunity to would be a pretty neat doomsday weapon.

If it doesn't get you the first time, just wait for the next go-around!

If she got better the first time, it would have to mutate like the flu and she'd've had to catch it again. You don't get better without developing antibodies. I'd suspect a lab fuck up.

Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
I'd also like to think if someone invented a virus to devastate the global population as part of a sinister plot, that they could do better than "slightly more virulent flu".
:lulz: definitely.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 28, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Well, there was a report of someone in Japan who tested positive twice.  I suspect that she either wasn't cured completely, or someone messed up the labwork, but an intermittently lethal virus that humans can't develop a long-term immunity to would be a pretty neat doomsday weapon.

If it doesn't get you the first time, just wait for the next go-around!

I was just reading about this.  Coronavirus immunity doesn't last very long.

But it's not THAT short.  The test was bad?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 09:09:39 PM
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/02/trump-fans-go-nuts-after-garth-brooks

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 28, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Well, there was a report of someone in Japan who tested positive twice.  I suspect that she either wasn't cured completely, or someone messed up the labwork, but an intermittently lethal virus that humans can't develop a long-term immunity to would be a pretty neat doomsday weapon.

If it doesn't get you the first time, just wait for the next go-around!

I was just reading about this.  Coronavirus immunity doesn't last very long.

But it's not THAT short.  The test was bad?
Quite possibly. Or whatever chemical signature they were looking for was still present post-symptoms

There is a small but real chance it remains dormant in the system post-symptoms, if so it just might reemerge symptomaticly later like impetigo, even be infectious asymptomatic like. This is not my opinion, but if more double positive tests occur it would be a... Bad indication.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 29, 2020, 06:44:08 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 28, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2020, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 28, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Well, there was a report of someone in Japan who tested positive twice.  I suspect that she either wasn't cured completely, or someone messed up the labwork, but an intermittently lethal virus that humans can't develop a long-term immunity to would be a pretty neat doomsday weapon.

If it doesn't get you the first time, just wait for the next go-around!

I was just reading about this.  Coronavirus immunity doesn't last very long.

But it's not THAT short.  The test was bad?
Quite possibly. Or whatever chemical signature they were looking for was still present post-symptoms

There is a small but real chance it remains dormant in the system post-symptoms, if so it just might reemerge symptomaticly later like impetigo, even be infectious asymptomatic like. This is not my opinion, but if more double positive tests occur it would be a... Bad indication.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html

It's much worse than I thought. It causes damage to various organs and systems in a very unpredictable symptom presentation. Incubation ~5 days, 4-7 range reported, coronaviruses can range from 2-14.

A range like that makes it extremely difficult to track from site to site, and I suspect we'll be unable to keep track at all very soon because we already have tertiary cases.

Virus rna shows up in various discharges and fluids as well as active viruses, rna may be detected for weeks after. If folks are testing positive well after symptom cessation this is hopefully why. If they are STILL testing positive for rna a month from now it means they are still producing waste rna. That STRONGLY would imply that the virus is still replicating and infectious. By the time we know it WILL be far too late. If it's still replicating post symptoms it DEFINITELY has a REAL chance of a completely different symptom presentation as it enters otherwise protected systems. It would build up in the body over time potentially breaching the blood-brain barrier. I shudder to think what this fucker would very likely do to your mostly defenseless grey matter.

Cain you said that a bioweapon that presents only a nasty flu would be a let down... If you read the symptom spectrum it's NOT THE FLU BUDDY!

This one is a monster and if it does what my worst fear here implies... It just might be engineered, at first, but will heavily mutate over time into SEVERAL or even DOZENS of unique strains in relatively short order. It may be debilitating, deadly, prolific, and ultimately incurable. I've made a LOT of humanity killers in Plague Inc. This thing has all the right stuff not to wipe out, but to suppress a whole culture with illness and death at great medical cost in what will soon be an environment of limited supply. Stock up on hand sanitizer, masks, and impermeable gloves. They may not save you, but they will soon be very valuable trade goods.

I give it 4 months at a guess, then the political rallies become a deathbed, and they're feeding the idiots dangerous propaganda already, intentionally.

Fuck I hope I'm wrong and this will pass by then, but I SERIOUSLY doubt it. The infection control protocol is basically a medical space suit right down to full facial eye protection. This thing is very upsetting in the best case scenario. The worst case, if I'm right about the latency period and a second symptom expression in the brain, would seem to me a perfect storm by design or chance.

It will make no difference which.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 29, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
So if the Taliban renounce terrorism, all NATO forces will be out of Afghanistan in 14 months time. A partial withdrawal will take place in exactly 135 days...just as the Democratic National Convention gets started.

Funny that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on March 02, 2020, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 28, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
I've been banned from a lot of conspiracy groups and I haven't felt like logging in on one of my alts. I knew Russian botnets were spreading the theory, but I didn't know how much traction it had.

I'd also like to think if someone invented a virus to devastate the global population as part of a sinister plot, that they could do better than "slightly more virulent flu".

https://botsentinel.com/trending-topics places #coronavirus as the 5th most popular topic among bots in the last 24 hours. (surpassed only by mentions of Trump, and variations of his campaign slogans)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2020, 05:29:27 PM
https://apnews.com/28e60e866f6d32cdadedd126e292eba7


QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump asserted anew on Saturday that Mexico is paying for his border wall, even as his administration shifts billions from the Pentagon to cover some construction costs and Mexico pitches in nothing.

A look at some of his claims from his speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference:

TRUMP, on Mexico and his border wall: "Yes they are. They're paying for it. And they're OK with it. Mexico's paying for it."

THE FACTS: That's false. Mexico is not paying for the wall. And far from being "OK with it," Mexican leaders flatly rejected the idea when Trump pressed them early on.

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 03, 2020, 09:45:51 AM
That kind of blatant doublethink is to give his followers license to ignore any criticism of the waste of money, I hate how he has normalised this, this is an irreparable wall that makes communication impossible, and will permanently divide people
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on March 03, 2020, 09:06:10 PM
And won't actually do a damn thing except please the base.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2020, 02:48:10 PM
I told you the market surge was a dead cat bounce.

https://apnews.com/956c8b55380a70d7f344528f6d57b7b1

The drop in the market was not based on panic.  It was based on dry supply lines and missed shipments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
The electronics supply chain is fucked
We are waiting on 200 boards from china, and a fuck load of cell routers. That is just china. That paralysis will spread if the virus spreads and supply chains worldwide get disrupted (even a slight reduction in speed of movement like -5% will send the world into a recession.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2020, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
The electronics supply chain is fucked
We are waiting on 200 boards from china, and a fuck load of cell routers. That is just china. That paralysis will spread if the virus spreads and supply chains worldwide get disrupted (even a slight reduction in speed of movement like -5% will send the world into a recession.


I feel you. 


We are 4 shipments behind on fiberglass.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:13:25 PM
Just in time supply chains work in the perfect world, but well *shrugs and gestures at basically everything*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2020, 03:15:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:13:25 PM
Just in time supply chains work in the perfect world, but well *shrugs and gestures at basically everything*

I loathe just in time supply chains.  You can also call them "flying without a net" or "driving without a seat belt."

Our warehouse guy calls it "Just in Truck Delivery" meaning, when you want it, it's somewhere on the highway in a truck.

The entire concept is just one more reason MBAs should be forced to live on a tiny island just off of Alaska.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2020, 03:15:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:13:25 PM
Just in time supply chains work in the perfect world, but well *shrugs and gestures at basically everything*

I loathe just in time supply chains.  You can also call them "flying without a net" or "driving without a seat belt."

Our warehouse guy calls it "Just in Truck Delivery" meaning, when you want it, it's somewhere on the highway in a truck.

The entire concept is just one more reason MBAs should be forced to live on a tiny island just off of Alaska.
It was an excuse to remove the cost of a warehouse and stock sitting around, by instead taking on the risk that what you need may disappear tomorrow for an indefinite period of time
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 05, 2020, 03:21:54 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 05, 2020, 03:18:51 PM

It was an excuse to remove the cost of a warehouse and stock sitting around, by instead taking on the risk that what you need may disappear tomorrow for an indefinite period of time

Well, yes.  MBA thinking.  Tomorrow never comes and in theory, if we lower costs enough, we can be profitable without selling anything at all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 05, 2020, 06:21:31 PM
 :kingmeh:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on March 10, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Maybe I have a natural ability."  - Donald Trump, visiting the CDC March 6, 2020

"I didn't know people died from the flu." - Donald Trump, Atlanta, GA press conference March 6, 2020

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 12, 2020, 01:43:47 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.

It actually exempted every country in Europe with a Trump resort. Also, amusingly, it doesn't apply to Americans.

So feel free to go to Switzerland and take a car down into Italy and get all the coronavirus you want, then fly back.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on March 12, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: PopeTom on March 10, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Maybe I have a natural ability."  - Donald Trump, visiting the CDC March 6, 2020

"I didn't know people died from the flu." - Donald Trump, Atlanta, GA press conference March 6, 2020


Even without that comment from the 6th, it's like he doesn't understand how utterly fucking stupid that shit makes him sound.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:35:50 AM
This  all fits nicely with the conspiracy theory I'm trying to promote to christians that Trump is the antichrist. Look at revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." The horseman commonly interpreted as representing Pestilence is given a crown. "Corona" means "crown" in Latin.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?

You were supposed to correct the "racist" part.  That was the non-sequitur.  (It wasn't one of my better ones, but they can't all be winners).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on March 13, 2020, 02:03:57 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?

You were supposed to correct the "racist" part.  That was the non-sequitur.  (It wasn't one of my better ones, but they can't all be winners).

MEXICO ISN'T PART OF NORTH AMERICA.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?

That's the joke. I'm sure that if they could the people who voted for Brexit would have voted to leave the continent as well, or even the entire world. They just want to go and sulk by themselves away from all the reminders that their empire died a century ago.

EDIT:

Also, cultural differences have traditionally been seen as grounds to consider countries to be on different continents irrespective of geographical considerations. For example, there isn't even a hint of an ocean between Europe and Asia. If a landmass that is contiguous with Europe can be considered not part of Europe, than surely a landmass that ISN'T contiguous with Europe can be considered to not be a part of Europe.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 01:30:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?
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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on March 13, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?

That's the joke. I'm sure that if they could the people who voted for Brexit would have voted to leave the continent as well, or even the entire world. They just want to go and sulk by themselves away from all the reminders that their empire died a century ago.

EDIT:

Also, cultural differences have traditionally been seen as grounds to consider countries to be on different continents irrespective of geographical considerations. For example, there isn't even a hint of an ocean between Europe and Asia. If a landmass that is contiguous with Europe can be considered not part of Europe, than surely a landmass that ISN'T contiguous with Europe can be considered to not be a part of Europe.
Again, Europe does not equal the EU. Even the hardcore brexiteers said the UK still considers itself culturally european, and that it wants to shape european culture from outside the  EU
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 13, 2020, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 13, 2020, 03:14:24 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 13, 2020, 02:00:56 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 13, 2020, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 12, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Trump has declared a ban on travelers from Europe, to protect the U.S. from the foreign virus.

However, the ban doesn't apply to the U.K., because that would be racist.
The UK isn't part of Europe. They passed a referendum on it.
Is there any point in my explaining to you that you've confused Europe with the European Union?

That's the joke. I'm sure that if they could the people who voted for Brexit would have voted to leave the continent as well, or even the entire world. They just want to go and sulk by themselves away from all the reminders that their empire died a century ago.

EDIT:

Also, cultural differences have traditionally been seen as grounds to consider countries to be on different continents irrespective of geographical considerations. For example, there isn't even a hint of an ocean between Europe and Asia. If a landmass that is contiguous with Europe can be considered not part of Europe, than surely a landmass that ISN'T contiguous with Europe can be considered to not be a part of Europe.

*ahem*

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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 13, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 12, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: PopeTom on March 10, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Maybe I have a natural ability."  - Donald Trump, visiting the CDC March 6, 2020

"I didn't know people died from the flu." - Donald Trump, Atlanta, GA press conference March 6, 2020


Even without that comment from the 6th, it's like he doesn't understand how utterly fucking stupid that shit makes him sound.

Worse than that, this is the shit he thinks is smart.

Even worse than that, a scary number of people think this is smart.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on March 13, 2020, 11:42:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 13, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 12, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: PopeTom on March 10, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Maybe I have a natural ability."  - Donald Trump, visiting the CDC March 6, 2020

"I didn't know people died from the flu." - Donald Trump, Atlanta, GA press conference March 6, 2020


Even without that comment from the 6th, it's like he doesn't understand how utterly fucking stupid that shit makes him sound.

Worse than that, this is the shit he thinks is smart.

Even worse than that, a scary number of people think this is smart.
Absolutely. He has two modes: brag and spite.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on March 15, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 13, 2020, 11:42:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 13, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Juana on March 12, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Quote from: PopeTom on March 10, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Maybe I have a natural ability."  - Donald Trump, visiting the CDC March 6, 2020

"I didn't know people died from the flu." - Donald Trump, Atlanta, GA press conference March 6, 2020


Even without that comment from the 6th, it's like he doesn't understand how utterly fucking stupid that shit makes him sound.

Worse than that, this is the shit he thinks is smart.

Even worse than that, a scary number of people think this is smart.
Absolutely. He has two modes: brag and spite.

Donald J. Trump, the first truly American president.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 18, 2020, 09:11:25 PM
Holy shit, this IS serious.  Trump is doing actual things.

https://apnews.com/bd6d92f70e73276c74502fc18e663ae7
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 19, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
I have to admit, that is surprising. And highly concerning. I wonder if Trump's actions were triggered by the same report that made the UK government suddenly realise they were being morons?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 23, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
So this virus seems to be hitting denser population centers harder than in rural areas, as plagues tend to do. But also, these areas tend to be where a disproportionate chunk of the left also live.

That's another level of fucked I hadn't really considered until now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
I have to admit, that is surprising. And highly concerning. I wonder if Trump's actions were triggered by the same report that made the UK government suddenly realise they were being morons?

It turns out that he fucked up each and every measure, so the universe is in fact still following the rules.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on March 23, 2020, 08:04:59 PM
Back in the grinder, Merehume!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/trump-social-distancing-coronavirus-rules-guidelines-economy?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR232LA0I9VO8kHTadkJVmX9hwSX2hQYeVP0jdMB4kfST3mEfceK3nP6dzc
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 24, 2020, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
I have to admit, that is surprising. And highly concerning. I wonder if Trump's actions were triggered by the same report that made the UK government suddenly realise they were being morons?

It turns out that he fucked up each and every measure, so the universe is in fact still following the rules.

On the plus side, having the party which brought you "death panels for Grandma" now openly arguing for the positives of eldercide is darkly amusing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 24, 2020, 01:30:20 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/before-trump-called-for-reevaluating-lockdowns-they-shuttered-six-of-his-top-earning-clubs-and-resorts/2020/03/23/88780374-6d38-11ea-aa80-c2470c6b2034_story.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 24, 2020, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2020, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
I have to admit, that is surprising. And highly concerning. I wonder if Trump's actions were triggered by the same report that made the UK government suddenly realise they were being morons?

It turns out that he fucked up each and every measure, so the universe is in fact still following the rules.

On the plus side, having the party which brought you "death panels for Grandma" now openly arguing for the positives of eldercide is darkly amusing.

There goes the GOP and their base.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on March 24, 2020, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on March 24, 2020, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2020, 01:25:04 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 23, 2020, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 19, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
I have to admit, that is surprising. And highly concerning. I wonder if Trump's actions were triggered by the same report that made the UK government suddenly realise they were being morons?

It turns out that he fucked up each and every measure, so the universe is in fact still following the rules.

On the plus side, having the party which brought you "death panels for Grandma" now openly arguing for the positives of eldercide is darkly amusing.

There goes the GOP and their base.
Yep. The only scenario I can foresee that involves the GOP being willing to make, at least, Covid-19 related healthcare free is when their base starts to drop like flies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 25, 2020, 12:30:24 AM
By the way, if anyone feels like happy-slapping some "it's just a cold" republicans:

hxxps://www.debatepolitics.com/forum.php
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 27, 2020, 04:46:03 AM
https://apnews.com/53b372fc1e2d929144a77e4b6db6f3e3

QuoteTORONTO (AP) — Canada said Thursday it told the Trump administration that a proposal to put troops at the U.S.-Canada border amid the coronavirus pandemic was entirely unnecessary and would damage relations between the two longtime allies.

The Wall Street Journal, citing an unidentified U.S. official, later reported that the Trump administration had dropped its consideration of the plan.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government had been in discussions with the White House seeking to persuade the U.S. not to do it.

"Canada and the United States have the longest un-militarized border in the world and it is very much in both of our interests for it to remain that way," Trudeau said.

Trump said the U.S. has troops at the border but then said he would need to find out about that. He then suggested he would deploy troops along the Canadian border to match what is being done at the Mexican border.

"I guess it's equal justice to a certain extent," Trump said. "We have a lot of things coming in from Canada, we have trade, some illegal trade, that we don't like."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 29, 2020, 07:01:31 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/08/the-rank-hypocrisy-of-trumps-ebola-tweets/595420/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 30, 2020, 04:53:25 AM
In these dark and trying times, it's important to remember that Trump is still senselessly evil about other things, too.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mashpee-wampanoag-cape-cod-trump-casino-caronavirus-073953500.html

QuoteThe U.S. Interior Department is rescinding the reservation status of a Native American tribe whose plan to build a casino on its Massachusetts land was attacked by President Donald Trump last year.

The planned gaming operation would have competed for business with nearby Rhode Island casinos with strong ties to Trump, who once owned, then bankrupted, casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

The federal Bureau of Indian Affairs informed the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe on Friday that its 321-acre Cape Cod reservation will be "disestablished" and its land taken out of federal trust, according to Tribal Chairman Cedric Cromwell. Land in trust to the federal government effectively grants a tribe special legal status and autonomy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on March 30, 2020, 05:24:18 AM
 :evilmad: Fuck whitey.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on March 30, 2020, 09:45:49 AM
Quarantine time is a good time to bury bad news, to paraphrase a certain Downing Street PR person.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on March 31, 2020, 04:22:43 AM
Speaking of which,  I hear Cummings has had a bad test result.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 31, 2020, 10:03:57 PM
Oh, just listen to it.

https://apnews.com/305cc7ad65f6e080523a32e79edae97f

Fucking lying ass whoremonger.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2020, 05:24:18 AM
https://apnews.com/57def4c165e6f2ea1d4bf1b0091e4101

And then and then and then
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2020, 02:23:32 PM
I don't know how much play this is getting in the US, but France and Germany are fucking pissed over this

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests

QuoteUS buyers waving wads of cash managed to wrest control of a consignment of masks as it was about to be dispatched from China to one of the worst-hit coronavirus areas of France, according to two French officials.

The masks were on a plane at Shanghai airport that was ready to take off when the US buyers turned up and offered three times what their French counterparts were paying.

Jean Rottner, a doctor and president of the GrandEst regional council, said part of the order of several million masks heading for the region, where intensive care units are inundated with Covid-19 patients, had been lost to the buyers.

"On the tarmac, they arrive, get the cash out ... so we really have to fight," he told RTL radio.

Rottner would not identify the buyers, who they were working for or which US state the cargo was flown to, but another French official also involved in procuring masks from China said the group were acting for the US government.

And yes, they are apparently paying in cash. So that's not at all dodgy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 04, 2020, 02:42:51 PM
I keep flashing back to that scene in Children of Men, when the secretary is like "more American refugees have arrived, seeking asylum", and the politician is like "fuck em, they are getting what they deserve"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 04, 2020, 03:02:25 PM
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/3m-says-trump-officials-have-told-it-to-stop-sending-face-masks-to-canada

Quote
Minnesota-based 3M says the Trump administration is trying to prevent it from exporting its N95 respirators, the high-grade facemasks that are in high demand and dwindling supply around the world as health professionals, and now members of the North American public, try to defend themselves against the novel coronavirus.

The company, which calls itself a critical supplier of the masks around the world, says there would be "significant humanitarian implications" to acceding to the U.S. demand to limit exports to Canada and Latin America.

"In addition, ceasing all export of respirators produced in the United States would likely cause other countries to retaliate and do the same, as some have already done," 3M said in a statement Friday.

"If that were to occur, the net number of respirators being made available to the United States would actually decrease. That is the opposite of what we and the administration, on behalf of the American people, both seek."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 04, 2020, 10:02:40 PM
It's getting no play, just about. Stealing the neighbor's Amazon delivery and slamming the door in their face is a really great idea in a time where we're all going to need each other.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:13:40 AM
Today was a festival

https://apnews.com/57def4c165e6f2ea1d4bf1b0091e4101

https://apnews.com/24b8b30cbc11c43a19e7e7aff69e4044

https://apnews.com/4c63d4382453e89bd169fdbfa29fc746
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 05, 2020, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2020, 07:13:40 AM
Today was a festival

https://apnews.com/57def4c165e6f2ea1d4bf1b0091e4101

https://apnews.com/24b8b30cbc11c43a19e7e7aff69e4044

https://apnews.com/4c63d4382453e89bd169fdbfa29fc746

:kingmeh:

I don't even know where to begin. I guess the worst thing is the idea of the fed as backup instead of interstate coordinator, but pushing for reopening "the arenas" is just as bad in effect.
:weary:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 06, 2020, 08:57:54 AM
Seen on the news that Trump has announced the next two weeks is going to be rough. I can only assume his vocabulary doesn't cover what the subsequent months are going to be like.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on April 07, 2020, 05:18:09 AM
A Trumpling got coffin trademarks in China.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-29/china-approves-13-new-ivanka-trump-trademarks-in-3-months/9810558 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-29/china-approves-13-new-ivanka-trump-trademarks-in-3-months/9810558)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2020, 05:50:43 AM
[quote author=T̼̞̼ͅr̳̬̤̖̱͚̮̘̜̦̦i̲̩̝͕̣̲̪v̺͇̫̯͉͖͈͖͔̺̰̣͉̟̻̫̭i̦̖Q link=topic=37958.msg1437326#msg1437326 date=1586233089]
A Trumpling got coffin trademarks in China.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-29/china-approves-13-new-ivanka-trump-trademarks-in-3-months/9810558 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-29/china-approves-13-new-ivanka-trump-trademarks-in-3-months/9810558)
[/quote]

Just when I think this abberation of a timeline peaks I am yet again astonished!

:cpd:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2020, 11:31:46 PM
Now is definitely a good time to threaten to defund the World Health Organisation (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-threatens-world-health-organization-funding-171859).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 07, 2020, 11:41:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 07, 2020, 11:31:46 PM
Now is definitely a good time to threaten to defund the World Health Organisation (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-threatens-world-health-organization-funding-171859).

:um:
:weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 08, 2020, 02:55:36 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-conspiracy-wisconsin-election_n_5e8cfd39c5b6e1d10a6b590c?fbclid=IwAR0MyCPWrux7_38OZ3iR4ne0SuhKuk-DMkNDW44BqNhq0849hZ6UIFiZCi4
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 08, 2020, 09:25:50 PM
Of course he did.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 09, 2020, 01:22:19 PM
Criminal negligence or straight up lie, probably both.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-adviser-warned-of-millions-of-coronavirus-deaths-back-in-january-trump-says-he-only-saw-the-memo-this-week-005304311.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.

I am also enjoying this more than is reasonable.  :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 10, 2020, 03:23:03 AM
What an excellent use of an executive order and his time
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 10, 2020, 03:30:03 AM
Well to be fair there's nothing very important going on at the moment...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 10, 2020, 03:48:55 AM
I'm just waiting for the week he announces he's got a great deal on magic beans.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 10, 2020, 08:12:12 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 10, 2020, 03:48:55 AM
I'm just waiting for the week he announces he's got a great deal on magic beans.

What, you mean Hydroxychloroquine?


ZING!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2020, 08:13:23 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823

I can't find any record of Al Capone being THAT goddamn loony.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2020, 08:13:23 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823

I can't find any record of Al Capone being THAT goddamn loony.

Trump makes post-syphilis Capone seem healthy and Solomonic in his wisdom.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on April 10, 2020, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.

I am also enjoying this more than is reasonable.  :lol:

This shit is why I need you back on Facebook.  :cry:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 10, 2020, 03:47:56 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.

I am also enjoying this more than is reasonable.  :lol:

This shit is why I need you back on Facebook.  :cry:

10 days and counting down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 11, 2020, 06:54:14 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.

I am also enjoying this more than is reasonable.  :lol:

This shit is why I need you back on Facebook.  :cry:

Seconded. x infinity, because a lot of people there don't come here.

Look at that face. He's making that Trump mouth. The one Putin likes, the one that looks like an old pig asshole popping out when it cuts a particularly rancid fart:

(https://i.postimg.cc/MpvDrq5M/Capture.jpg)

This cannot go unpunished.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2020, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on April 10, 2020, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Suu on April 10, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
So we've finally hit end-stage syphilis.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-signs-order-encouraging-us-mine-moon-minerals-1496823
:lulz:
I can't express how happy that makes me.  It's just so utterly pointless.

I am also enjoying this more than is reasonable.  :lol:

This shit is why I need you back on Facebook.  :cry:

IKR?  It's the end of the world and I am disconnected in Tucson.  :crankey:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 12, 2020, 01:12:22 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-keeps-talking-republicans-dont-122811994.html

The trump presidency is FOUR YEARS of The Aristocrats.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 12, 2020, 03:31:31 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 12, 2020, 01:12:22 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-keeps-talking-republicans-dont-122811994.html

The trump presidency is FOUR YEARS of The Aristocrats.

:horror:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 15, 2020, 09:10:01 PM
 :horrormirth: :magick: :horrormirth:
*Weirdness Singularity Intensifies*

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/15/donald-trump-wwe-vince-mcmahon-adviser-economy-12558398/?fbclid=IwAR2AQF_QvJJP4119zD1nYxITDnxZ1SZlzYR5CWj-ampc-bfEyWMN6YS5Mmo
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
It's the 2020 version of Nero making his horse a senator.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 01:59:01 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
It's the 2020 version of Nero making his horse a senator.

It gets better...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493044-trump-threatens-to-adjourn-both-chambers-of-congress?fbclid=IwAR36DBUwi6hzSZIwy77ytbIcoNmLaqFxOqrnWBzf0UKL3kgAqyPJDyDl4B0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 16, 2020, 02:03:08 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 01:59:01 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 15, 2020, 09:41:53 PM
It's the 2020 version of Nero making his horse a senator.

It gets better...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493044-trump-threatens-to-adjourn-both-chambers-of-congress?fbclid=IwAR36DBUwi6hzSZIwy77ytbIcoNmLaqFxOqrnWBzf0UKL3kgAqyPJDyDl4B0

Well, yeah.  Then he can make recess appointments.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 16, 2020, 02:36:08 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/2dcfbc31db6063f32f3a1531e612ecd6/tenor.gif?itemid=8518414)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 16, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
A guy goes to a talent agent. He says, "I've got the greatest show you've never seen. I get up on stage and I evict the black half of the audience. I parade in twelve women and rape four of them. I marry three. Then I rape them, too. I have kids with all of them, and the one daughter that pops out, I develop a strange sexual tension with. I don't actually have sex with her, I just sort of silently insinuate that I might be thinking about it, which is in some ways worse than actually having sex with her. I get millions of dollars from Russia for no reason, but I'm so stupid that I actually put it on my tax forms, which I then set fire to. I start loudly complaining about Mexicans. I become president, and I do literally everything I can to not just fuck shit up, but to get away with it, too. Then Mitch McConnell comes out and starts fellating me."


The talent agent says, "Fantastic! What's the name of that act?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 16, 2020, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 16, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
A guy goes to a talent agent. He says, "I've got the greatest show you've never seen. I get up on stage and I evict the black half of the audience. I parade in twelve women and rape four of them. I marry three. Then I rape them, too. I have kids with all of them, and the one daughter that pops out, I develop a strange sexual tension with. I don't actually have sex with her, I just sort of silently insinuate that I might be thinking about it, which is in some ways worse than actually having sex with her. I get millions of dollars from Russia for no reason, but I'm so stupid that I actually put it on my tax forms, which I then set fire to. I start loudly complaining about Mexicans. I become president, and I do literally everything I can to not just fuck shit up, but to get away with it, too. Then Mitch McConnell comes out and starts fellating me."


The talent agent says, "Fantastic! What's the name of that act?"

Yoinked!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 16, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
 :enough:
:jumper:
:peedee:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 16, 2020, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.

IF ANYONE HERE HAS ANY PROOF THAT BOB SAGET RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1992 PLEASE GO TO THE POLICE
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 01:47:23 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 17, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 01:47:23 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
No I mean literally hear him, I think he's been eating out of my bins and living in my attic like the spider man of denver (http://theodore_edward_coneys)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 17, 2020, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 01:47:23 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
No I mean literally hear him, I think he's been eating out of my bins and living in my attic like the spider man of denver (http://theodore_edward_coneys)

Seth MacFarlane is calling and he his writing staff wants his signature style of humor back.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 17, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
compared to seth, this year cant get worse
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 17, 2020, 01:47:23 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 16, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
I can hear Gilbert Gottfried again.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
No I mean literally hear him, I think he's been eating out of my bins and living in my attic like the spider man of denver (http://theodore_edward_coneys)

wow that was a STORY

That's the spider man origin story we deserved.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 17, 2020, 02:20:38 PM
If you liked that, Google "otto in the attic". Suspect these guys would have got on really well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 17, 2020, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
compared to seth, this year cant get worse

Need I remind you we're going to wind up with a president who is either Donald Trump or Joe Biden?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 17, 2020, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
compared to seth, this year cant get worse

Need I remind you we're going to wind up with a president who is either Donald Trump or Joe Biden?
I'm not American, the rest of the world has basically accepted the best the the US pres gets is mediocre, at worst dangerous and violent:
Trump = Defunds locally, insults internationally, acts as a circus trick to distract fro real issues
Obama =10k dead from drone strikes, fucks up the middle east makes world less safe
Bush = fucks up the middle east makes world less safe
Clinton = bombed a hospital, fucks up the middle east makes world less safe
bush sr = fucks up the middle east makes world less safe
Reagan = Puts economy on irreversible nightmare course

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally

I liked Jimmy Carter but I'm sure there is awful shit I don't know about him
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on April 17, 2020, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
I liked Jimmy Carter but I'm sure there is awful shit I don't know about him

He once had lustful thoughts about a woman who was not his wife!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 17, 2020, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM
I liked Jimmy Carter but I'm sure there is awful shit I don't know about him

He once had lustful thoughts about a woman who was not his wife!

*Pearl Clutching Intensifies*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 17, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
There is a that argument, china and russia not being preferable, I'm not saying the US should stop being WorldPolice, just that people benefit from it being ineffectual.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
There is a that argument, china and russia not being preferable, I'm not saying the US should stop being WorldPolice, just that people benefit from it being ineffectual.

I do believe all superpowers should just fuck off and stop meddling with everyone else... but thats just a personal and unreal wish, which I guess was only possible pre-globalization, in high medieval times ala Peace of Westphalia.

In what i can agree with you is that when one political actor has too much power its never good, so yeah, if the weakening of the US creates balance thats a good thing, but not weakened by too much or were all gonna end up in reeducation camps and tortured till we believe whatever nonsense the chinese state believes in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 17, 2020, 05:18:48 PM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 16, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
A guy goes to a talent agent. He says, "I've got the greatest show you've never seen. I get up on stage and I evict the black half of the audience. I parade in twelve women and rape four of them. I marry three. Then I rape them, too. I have kids with all of them, and the one daughter that pops out, I develop a strange sexual tension with. I don't actually have sex with her, I just sort of silently insinuate that I might be thinking about it, which is in some ways worse than actually having sex with her. I get millions of dollars from Russia for no reason, but I'm so stupid that I actually put it on my tax forms, which I then set fire to. I start loudly complaining about Mexicans. I become president, and I do literally everything I can to not just fuck shit up, but to get away with it, too. Then Mitch McConnell comes out and starts fellating me."


The talent agent says, "Fantastic! What's the name of that act?"

:lulz:

Same energy as this bot (albeit not as durty): https://twitter.com/TrumpSitcomBot

Quote from: @TrumpSitcomBotA visibly sick Rand Paul politely tells Melania that coal miners are traitors. Adam Sandler oozes pus.

Quote from: @TrumpSitcomBotIn Jerusalem, Steve Scalise patiently explains to the Secret Service that the kids are potential voters. Karl Rove tries bareback.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 17, 2020, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
There is a that argument, china and russia not being preferable, I'm not saying the US should stop being WorldPolice, just that people benefit from it being ineffectual.

I do believe all superpowers should just fuck off and stop meddling with everyone else... but thats just a personal and unreal wish, which I guess was only possible pre-globalization, in high medieval times ala Peace of Westphalia.

In what i can agree with you is that when one political actor has too much power its never good, so yeah, if the weakening of the US creates balance thats a good thing, but not weakened by too much or were all gonna end up in reeducation camps and tortured till we believe whatever nonsense the chinese state believes in.

I think the game changes when you consider the Transnational Organized Crime (https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/speeches/the-evolving-organized-crime-threat) element that's all to prevalent throughout these regimes.

We're not just going after bad state actors but also "'iron triangles' of organized criminals, corrupt government officials, and business leaders".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 17, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
Carter was up to his eyeballs in the Soviet Afghan War iirc and that *I* know of, that's the most/only garbage thing he did.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
Trump's losing his shit on twitter as I speak.

calling for LIBERATION of quarantined states
going hard after Gov Cuomo (of NY)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 17, 2020, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
There is a that argument, china and russia not being preferable, I'm not saying the US should stop being WorldPolice, just that people benefit from it being ineffectual.

I do believe all superpowers should just fuck off and stop meddling with everyone else... but thats just a personal and unreal wish, which I guess was only possible pre-globalization, in high medieval times ala Peace of Westphalia.

In what i can agree with you is that when one political actor has too much power its never good, so yeah, if the weakening of the US creates balance thats a good thing, but not weakened by too much or were all gonna end up in reeducation camps and tortured till we believe whatever nonsense the chinese state believes in.

I think the game changes when you consider the Transnational Organized Crime (https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/speeches/the-evolving-organized-crime-threat) element that's all to prevalent throughout these regimes.

We're not just going after bad state actors but also "'iron triangles' of organized criminals, corrupt government officials, and business leaders".

There's a huge difference between "policing" and "vigilantism"... sorry i dont have the energy to extend argument.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:36:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
Trump's losing his shit on twitter as I speak.

calling for LIBERATION of quarantined states
going hard after Gov Cuomo (of NY)

Just looked... Fuck I can't even. It puts a foulness in my mouth just looking. He's out of his goddamn mind.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:40:36 PM
I can't believe I'm still capable of being shocked by his tweets

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:53:55 PM
It IS uncanny, borderline superhuman, his ability to always find a new threshold to break through and thereby gain limitless amounts of attention.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:58:31 PM
I am really struggling to imagine a worse president.

They say to never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, but you'd actually have to be very smart to make the wrong decision so consistently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 17, 2020, 06:59:59 PM
Cohen's Law:
        There is no bottom to worse.

cno's corollary:
        There is no ceiling to stupidity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on April 17, 2020, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:58:31 PM
I am really struggling to imagine a worse president.

They say to never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, but you'd actually have to be very smart to make the wrong decision so consistently.

There's more than one right way to solve a problem, but the number of wrong ways vastly outnumber the right ways.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 17, 2020, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 17, 2020, 06:53:55 PM
It IS uncanny, borderline superhuman, his ability to always find a new threshold to break through and thereby gain limitless amounts of attention.

It's like he's got one shovel have and one Bedrill hand. Everytime you think he's hit bedrock, he manages to keep going.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 17, 2020, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 17, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
Trump's losing his shit on twitter as I speak.

calling for LIBERATION of quarantined states
going hard after Gov Cuomo (of NY)

Just the ones with Democratic governors, of course.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 17, 2020, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on April 17, 2020, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on April 17, 2020, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 17, 2020, 03:07:19 PM

There is one really negative thing that is seen internationally though: A weak america is good for the rest of the world, the more problems trump creates domestically, the less he can create internationally


Something something, power vacuum, something something not irrepleaceable, China ready, something something, worse.
There is a that argument, china and russia not being preferable, I'm not saying the US should stop being WorldPolice, just that people benefit from it being ineffectual.

I do believe all superpowers should just fuck off and stop meddling with everyone else... but thats just a personal and unreal wish, which I guess was only possible pre-globalization, in high medieval times ala Peace of Westphalia.

In what i can agree with you is that when one political actor has too much power its never good, so yeah, if the weakening of the US creates balance thats a good thing, but not weakened by too much or were all gonna end up in reeducation camps and tortured till we believe whatever nonsense the chinese state believes in.

I think the game changes when you consider the Transnational Organized Crime (https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/speeches/the-evolving-organized-crime-threat) element that's all to prevalent throughout these regimes.

We're not just going after bad state actors but also "'iron triangles' of organized criminals, corrupt government officials, and business leaders".

There's a huge difference between "policing" and "vigilantism"... sorry i dont have the energy to extend argument.

of course--i don't think we disagree
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 17, 2020, 08:01:32 PM
Lou Dobbs is beating the War with China drum, now.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-business-lou-dobbs_n_5e990882c5b6a92100e4c183
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2020, 11:12:27 PM
Inslee is accusing Trump (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493404-inslee-accuses-trump-of-fomenting-domestic-rebellion?fbclid=IwAR2sGXzdOcSPa9qhs7CRIaQBNjEE7swdtNjOJdSCp3U_EY302J_sEawKaLk), quite rightly, of "fomenting domestic rebellion" though whether that goes beyond a press statement remains to be seen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 24, 2020, 02:21:26 AM
Then, just like that, trumpsters all started eating Tide Pods.

https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-disinfectant-bleach-heat-light/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on April 24, 2020, 02:38:04 AM
Quote from: Bruno on April 24, 2020, 02:21:26 AM
Then, just like that, trumpsters all started eating Tide Pods.

https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-disinfectant-bleach-heat-light/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on April 24, 2020, 03:15:38 AM
It causes your brain to die last!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 24, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
repost, but whatever:

imagine a crew of spiders wearing overalls just jack-hammering away at TRUMP's brain. And one of em is like "He needs to be HOW stupid tomorrow?" and he wipes his spider forehead and he's like "This is givin' ME brain spiders!"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 24, 2020, 04:06:52 PM
I'm wondering if someone has been feeding Trump Qanon propaganda. We know there's been a wink-wink relationship between the White House and the movement, and about a year ago the Qanon people were all about drinking bleach to cure autism (https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1130907393481695232?lang=en).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 24, 2020, 04:07:46 PM
Even more interestingly, earlier this year some were claiming it was a cure for coronavirus (https://www.businessinsider.com/china-coronavirus-wuhan-cure-qanon-mms-bleach-conspiracy-2020-1?r=US&IR=T).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
I support the idea of QAnon supporters drinking bleach. It will lead to a lower number of QAnon supporters. Honestly its a little surprising that their cult didn't order them to all kill themselves sooner.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 24, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Well they have to help save the mole-children first (https://www.wonkette.com/qanon-idiots-very-concerned-about-mole-children-now), you see.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on April 24, 2020, 07:30:01 PM
ROTFLOL! That's stupid even for them!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 24, 2020, 11:24:35 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
Well they have to help save the mole-children first (https://www.wonkette.com/qanon-idiots-very-concerned-about-mole-children-now), you see.

I am here for this.  :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 25, 2020, 01:00:06 AM
Seeing as how he's using sarcasm as a defense now, like he's literally learnt what the word is and what it means yesterday, I'm expecting this to eventually become a catch all excuse for the entire administration.

"NO putin does NOT have pictures of me PISSING on prostitutes"

It nearly works, apart from all the problems.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 27, 2020, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 24, 2020, 04:06:52 PM
I'm wondering if someone has been feeding Trump Qanon propaganda. We know there's been a wink-wink relationship between the White House and the movement, and about a year ago the Qanon people were all about drinking bleach to cure autism (https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1130907393481695232?lang=en).

gosh ya know--it's almost like they're a testbed cult.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 27, 2020, 05:49:59 PM
Almost. Though I've been led to believe that Trump thinks bleach is a cure for a lot of things, including AIDS, so it's possible he's not huffing his own cultists farts just yet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 27, 2020, 06:35:03 PM
Including AIDS???? What. Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 27, 2020, 07:01:49 PM
I couldn't get a source, because searching for anything involving Trump and bleach is currently pure hell on the internet, but no less than three different people I trust mentioned independently that they remembered him saying this in the 80s.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on April 27, 2020, 07:15:30 PM
death is technically a cure, checkmate libtards
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 27, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
I want to present to you my favorite terrible thing.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on April 27, 2020, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 27, 2020, 07:15:30 PM
death is technically a cure, checkmate libtards

you know what else kills 100% of the viruses in a pietri dish? a hand gun
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on April 27, 2020, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 27, 2020, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 27, 2020, 07:15:30 PM
death is technically a cure, checkmate libtards

you know what else kills 100% of the viruses in a pietri dish? a hand gun

No virus survives contact with elemental fluorine.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 27, 2020, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 27, 2020, 05:49:59 PM
Almost. Though I've been led to believe that Trump thinks bleach is a cure for a lot of things, including AIDS, so it's possible he's not huffing his own cultists farts just yet.

lol fwiw: https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/g7f5xr/photographer_captures_the_exact_moment_trump/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 27, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 27, 2020, 07:01:49 PM
I couldn't get a source, because searching for anything involving Trump and bleach is currently pure hell on the internet, but no less than three different people I trust mentioned independently that they remembered him saying this in the 80s.
It does sound like something he would believe in, if he's always been crazier than a shit house rat. Which seems likely at this point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 27, 2020, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: altered on April 27, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
I want to present to you my favorite terrible thing.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement
I distinctly recall that from a thread where some CPS bait Autism Mommy was giving it to her kid. Not surprised to see the charlatans pushing this too.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 09:48:56 PM
QuoteTRUMP, on the chances of the virus returning in the fall: "If it does come back — it's not going to come back — and I've spoken to 10 different people, it's not going to be like it was. ... If we have embers of corona coupled with the flu, that's not going to be pleasant, but it's not going to be what we've gone through in any way, shape, or form. ... You may not even have corona coming back, just so you understand." — briefing Wednesday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 27, 2020, 10:41:11 PM
Quote from: Juana on April 27, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 27, 2020, 07:01:49 PM
I couldn't get a source, because searching for anything involving Trump and bleach is currently pure hell on the internet, but no less than three different people I trust mentioned independently that they remembered him saying this in the 80s.
It does sound like something he would believe in, if he's always been crazier than a shit house rat. Which seems likely at this point.

Very suspectible to woo, marketing and leaping to conclusions. I can also see it.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2020, 09:48:56 PM
QuoteTRUMP, on the chances of the virus returning in the fall: "If it does come back — it's not going to come back — and I've spoken to 10 different people, it's not going to be like it was. ... If we have embers of corona coupled with the flu, that's not going to be pleasant, but it's not going to be what we've gone through in any way, shape, or form. ... You may not even have corona coming back, just so you understand." — briefing Wednesday.

Nice to see some lucid thinking from the top of government.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on April 27, 2020, 11:46:02 PM
I'm loving how all the focus remains on injecting dettol while ignoring his other brilliant idea of a 100 watt bulb up the arse.

Watching this gumby turn himself into a Halloween lantern should surely be encouraged.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
Grab your ass.

https://fortune.com/2020/04/23/us-unemployment-rate-numbers-claims-this-week-total-job-losses-april-23-2020-benefits-claims/

Greater than 20% unemployment as of today.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on April 29, 2020, 08:41:11 PM
:lulz: : horrormirth: how often do we learn from the past, even though it rhymes pretty consistently?

Reckon that's why states are starting to force reopening, including Calo. I just finally filed and am still employed atm, but my governor is talking about reopening the schools in July. Not that the California Teachers' Association is going to play ball on that, I think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 04:46:45 PM
Trump, once again sticking his fat ass where it doesn't belong.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supports-michigan-protesters-says-gov-whitmer-should-give-a-little/ar-BB13tl17
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 01, 2020, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
Grab your ass.

https://fortune.com/2020/04/23/us-unemployment-rate-numbers-claims-this-week-total-job-losses-april-23-2020-benefits-claims/

Greater than 20% unemployment as of today.

What's the magic number for all hell breaking loose? Guessing somewhere between 25 to 33%.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2020, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 29, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
Grab your ass.

https://fortune.com/2020/04/23/us-unemployment-rate-numbers-claims-this-week-total-job-losses-april-23-2020-benefits-claims/

Greater than 20% unemployment as of today.

What's the magic number for all hell breaking loose? Guessing somewhere between 25 to 33%.

The worst unemployment in American history was 24.7%
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 01, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Rookie numbers. We've learnt so much since then.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Rookie numbers. We've learnt so much since then.

We need an emote that has rednecks yukking it up while libraries burn.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on May 01, 2020, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 01, 2020, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 01, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Rookie numbers. We've learnt so much since then.

We need an emote that has rednecks yukking it up while libraries burn.

We do. and the flames need to be animated a bit
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 08, 2020, 01:33:54 AM
https://apple.news/AFtAY_jytTpabMY-vsIXxNQ

Well.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 08, 2020, 02:08:12 AM
Quote from: altered on May 08, 2020, 01:33:54 AM
https://apple.news/AFtAY_jytTpabMY-vsIXxNQ

Well.

William Barr is gonna William Barr.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on May 12, 2020, 12:50:08 AM
Is it just me or does this "transition to greatness" ring of "promotion to glory"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on May 12, 2020, 01:07:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YPO3BUu.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Then there's this clown, who starts out like a tough guy and ends up mush-mouthing like the punk he is.

Also, 1976 wants its jacket back.

https://apnews.com/338e462b1dde54e926ef4b637b406be7
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Then there's this clown, who starts out like a tough guy and ends up mush-mouthing like the punk he is.

Also, 1976 wants its jacket back.

https://apnews.com/338e462b1dde54e926ef4b637b406be7

I guess they don't make the Sturmabteilung the way they used to...???
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Then there's this clown, who starts out like a tough guy and ends up mush-mouthing like the punk he is.

Also, 1976 wants its jacket back.

https://apnews.com/338e462b1dde54e926ef4b637b406be7

I guess they don't make the Sturmabteilung the way they used to...???

This is the Ford Focus of cowboy groups.

LMNO could beat the shit out of all of them before breakfast.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:14:42 PM
LMNO and these guys isn't a fair comparison. He was willing to throw down over horses in Boston. These guys have ugly mustaches and probably drive Jeep Grand Cherokees.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:14:42 PM
LMNO and these guys isn't a fair comparison. He was willing to throw down over horses in Boston. These guys have ugly mustaches and probably drive Jeep Grand Cherokees.

Fair?  What is this "fair"? 

Exterminate the scum.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:22:00 PM
Fair is for comparisons: you can't weigh something you can pick up one handed if the other side of the scales is holding a life sized lead statue of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs's balls.

Fair doesn't apply outside of comparisons, because comparisons are about finding similarities and differences. But now it is time to just simply stomp and kick and bite, and the only differences worth consideration are hardness of tooth and bone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:22:00 PM
Fair is for comparisons: you can't weigh something you can pick up one handed if the other side of the scales is holding a life sized lead statue of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs's balls.

Fair doesn't apply outside of comparisons, because comparisons are about finding similarities and differences. But now it is time to just simply stomp and kick and bite, and the only differences worth consideration are hardness of tooth and bone.

woop woop
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on May 20, 2020, 10:20:13 PM
Quote"I don't say that in the physical sense, and I can already see where the videos getting edited where it says I want to go murder Democrats. No," Griffin continued. "I say that in the political sense because the Democrat agenda and policy is anti-American right now."

I like the idea that 50%+ of the American voting bloc is anti-American

if it were true, it would be a great north star for politicians.


VOTE FOR ME AND I WILL BE THE FINAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT
:pax:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on May 20, 2020, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: altered on May 20, 2020, 09:14:42 PM
LMNO and these guys isn't a fair comparison. He was willing to throw down over horses in Boston. These guys have ugly mustaches and probably drive Jeep Grand Cherokees.


Stephen Stills called. He wants his jacket back.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on May 21, 2020, 12:31:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Then there's this clown, who starts out like a tough guy and ends up mush-mouthing like the punk he is.

Also, 1976 wants its jacket back.

https://apnews.com/338e462b1dde54e926ef4b637b406be7

Wow, all these uses of sarcasm by your president and metaphor by some county commissioner are so advanced and nuanced, that to us foreigners due to our bad grasp of american culture, would seem that they were actually being literal!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 21, 2020, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on May 21, 2020, 12:31:22 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 20, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
Then there's this clown, who starts out like a tough guy and ends up mush-mouthing like the punk he is.

Also, 1976 wants its jacket back.

https://apnews.com/338e462b1dde54e926ef4b637b406be7

Wow, all these uses of sarcasm by your president and metaphor by some county commissioner are so advanced and nuanced, that to us foreigners due to our bad grasp of american culture, would seem that they were actually being literal!

It's passive aggressive stochastic terrorism, and we're running out of adjectives.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 21, 2020, 02:06:54 AM
Welsh has a whole bunch of adjectives that it isn't using. We can just borrow those.

I, for one, would quite like "carcharwyd" to be one of them. Maybe also find a way to say "bwyta gan jiraffod anffurfio."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 05, 2020, 10:44:07 PM
Oh, for fuck's sake.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/96fcb1383cb640c1b995f3a62d210018

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The White House said Wednesday that President Donald Trump's visit to a nearby church where he held up a Bible was a "leadership moment" akin to Winston Churchill's inspection of bomb-damaged London during World War II, a comparison that drew swift condemnation from the author of a new best-selling book on the former British prime minister.

Sean Spicer, eat your heart out.

QuoteWhite House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Trump's stroll to St. John's Church the day after it was damaged by fire during protests was a comforting moment for Americans amid unrest spurred by the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

"Through all of time, we've seen presidents and leaders across the world who have had leadership moments and very powerful symbols that were important for our nation to see at any given time to show a message of resilience and determination," she said.

"Like Churchill, we saw him inspecting the bombing damage and it sent a powerful message of leadership to the British people," she said.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 05, 2020, 10:48:11 PM
What was it Cheney said? "We live in a post fact era"?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 06, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/thepacketrat/status/1269244990229790721?s=21

Please look. I just fucking can't deal with this year. It's not that it's not normal, it's that we are living in a Carlton Mellick III story.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2020, 07:37:42 PM
It's alright, the UK has a plan for dealing with 2020

(https://i.imgur.com/qiw3zmL.png)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 06, 2020, 07:43:18 PM
That's not the UK. That's ANTIFA, all-caps courtesy of some right wing news outlet. No, I'm serious. I'm not joking. Look for yourself.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 06, 2020, 09:12:34 PM
It was, now it's about 80k+ British people overthrowing God to reset the timeline
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on June 06, 2020, 09:57:07 PM
Something something reclaiming sovereignty from unelected deities
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 06, 2020, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: altered on June 06, 2020, 07:09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/thepacketrat/status/1269244990229790721?s=21

Please look. I just fucking can't deal with this year. It's not that it's not normal, it's that we are living in a Carlton Mellick III story.
THE LOOK ON THAT GUY'S FACE THO
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on June 06, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 06, 2020, 09:57:07 PM
Something something reclaiming sovereignty from unelected deities

It's not such a big step from divinely appointed kings to newly crowned god-kings. You just cut out the middle-diety and all representatives.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on June 10, 2020, 02:22:54 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1270333484528214018?ref_url=https%3a%2f%2fd-13876006581731353094.ampproject.net%2f2005272217000%2fframe.html

Quote
Mango Moussalinni tweeted:

Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment.
@OANN
  I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?



So it's confirmed, then... 75-year-old Martin Gugino: Bona Fide Antifa Supersoldier

Codename:(unknown)

Known super powers:
1.) ...scanning?
2.) Bleed from the ears at will.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2020, 08:38:33 PM
Trump just sent CNN a cease and desist letter because one of the polls they aired shows Trump losing the election.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 10, 2020, 08:55:09 PM
He's totally irrelevant to the nation right now, and he cannot fucking stand it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on June 10, 2020, 09:35:41 PM
"To my knowledge, this is the first time in its 40-year history that CNN had been threatened with legal action because an American politician or campaign did not like CNN's polling results," Vigilante wrote in his response. "To the extent we have received legal threats from political leaders in the past, they have typically come from countries like Venezuela or other regimes where there is little or no respect for a free and independent media."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on June 10, 2020, 10:25:14 PM
In order to not disrespect America's history of winning, victory, and freedom President Donald J. Trump will not rename military bases named after traitors, and losers who took up arms against the Union to maintain the institution of slavery. 

(https://i.imgur.com/59EJbOK.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2020, 10:58:35 PM
It just makes sense
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 12, 2020, 12:50:47 AM
Just reminding people that the other, more significant confederate flag was white.

Why the idiot is supporting the losing side, 150 odd years after the loss is telling. He probably is after the South rising again so he can be king of it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 12, 2020, 12:52:28 AM
And with being king of the rednecks he can finally fulfill his lifelong wish, marry and screw his daughter turn his family tree into a big beautiful circle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on June 13, 2020, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 12, 2020, 12:50:47 AM
Just reminding people that the other, more significant confederate flag was white.

Why the idiot is supporting the losing side, 150 odd years after the loss is telling. He probably is after the South rising again so he can be king of it.
And they'd let him, despite the APPROPRIATE american attitude towards monarchy being "fuck you, no."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 13, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
It's legal to deny me medical care now. Any medical care. I could be the next Tyra Hunter and there's nothing to be done about it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nibor the Priest on June 13, 2020, 07:02:11 PM
I'm really sorry, altered. Solidarity to trans siblings. Love and anger.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 14, 2020, 07:35:13 PM
altered, if anything goes sideways for you, please let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 14, 2020, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 14, 2020, 07:35:13 PM
altered, if anything goes sideways for you, please let me know and I'll do what I can to help.

Right now the plan is: barebones survival in TX, acquire a stable address that I can rely on for two or more months, get a passport ordered, keep my fucking head down, receive the passport eventually, get to NZ, claim asylum.

They gave a British trans lady asylum last year or the year before. No doubt in my mind I could get asylum from the US now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
Not that this immediately addresses your concerns, but the SCOTUS ruling was a nice way to wake up this morning.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 15, 2020, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 15, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
Not that this immediately addresses your concerns, but the SCOTUS ruling was a nice way to wake up this morning.

Yessir! Equal is Equal
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on June 16, 2020, 03:31:57 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 15, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
Not that this immediately addresses your concerns, but the SCOTUS ruling was a nice way to wake up this morning.

Depends on which one, they also ruled to preserve qualified immunity for cops, and approved a Pipeline down the appalachian trail.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 16, 2020, 06:13:00 AM
I've been waiting until I had the energy and coherence to put this together.

This ruling does fuck all for me.

This ruling is a win for SPECIFICALLY:
Stably housed
Able bodied
Gainfully employed or possible to become such
Residents of states that don't have at-will employment
And who are filthy fucking rich.

Why?

No permanent address, no work. PO Boxes in a job application, they toss the application instantly, I have first hand awareness of this.

Disabled, you CAN'T WORK some jobs. Incidentally, many job listings are set up to subtly exclude disabled individuals from even trying to apply: look at how many data entry jobs involve lifting 20+ lbs as part of the "reasonable expected workload". I sound like a conspiracy theorist about this until you spend ten minutes on Indeed.

Not employed right now, good fucking luck getting a job in this economy you unlucky son of a bitch. Of course, some folks have "fallback" jobs with family members or friends, either small business or company nepotism. They'll be fine.

If you're in an at-will employment state, this changed nothing and they can replace "trans" "gay" whatever with "a poor performer" or "not a team player".

And if you aren't rich, the sad truth is that laws like these are retroactive. They are remedies to an insult, not preventative measures. In order to meaningfully benefit from their protection, you need to be able to credibly threaten legal action at any time of day. This requires money.

I am none of these.

And if you read my freak out, you'd know the employment thing was never that big of a deal for me. It was a smack in the fucking face, that's all it was. I was not too upset by it because of the exact issues mentioned above, it was just a shitty thing to hear. As I said, "who cares".

Under the current ruling, I am permitted to engage in capitalist commerce but not permitted to ensure my own fucking survival.

If anything, it's even WORSE.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 16, 2020, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: altered on June 16, 2020, 06:13:00 AM

Why?

No permanent address, no work. PO Boxes in a job application, they toss the application instantly, I have first hand awareness of this.



I can sympathize with the whole catch-22 tactic you are experiencing. Pretty much everything I need do get done now gets put in this loop that sets the objective back in the prerequisite field. I don't mean to add further injury (economic) to your situation but a friend of mine was using a USPS box to get his tax returns and they (USPS) did offer to provide him with a regular street address that ported directly to the box (for a small fee, of course, which he was unwilling to pay, also, Uncle Sam don't give a fuck where he sends his bills)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2020, 08:25:42 PM
When everyone hates you because you're being a shit, the best thing to do is sign an executive order in a manner that oversteps your authority.

https://apnews.com/77871ed6e38c0416a67f03345a0a853e
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 16, 2020, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2020, 08:25:42 PM
When everyone hates you because you're being a shit, the best thing to do is sign an executive order in a manner that oversteps your authority.

https://apnews.com/77871ed6e38c0416a67f03345a0a853e

I swore we had a whole GROUP in government for this purpose, something about a tree of legalese? I don't know I'm probably just full of that left wing crazy sauce
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 16, 2020, 08:50:54 PM
He'll sign illegal executive orders with one hand....while praising stock market performance with the other (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC6T3_O2iWc)!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eap1-ZWVAAEkBG_?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 17, 2020, 01:55:35 AM
On the note of trans rights and shit I just today found out that literally only two states I've ever lived in for even a day have laws against trans/gay panic murder defenses. If we are counting 24 hour stays, I've been in half of the continental USA, easily.

Yesterday, a friend trying to help me asked what states I'd feel safest in, and I thought: "Relatively blue, relatively rural". And named Rhode Island (outside of Providence) and Maine as examples, with the caveat that neither is great (Providence is full of murdering cops and Maine is racist podunk central).

Well, I think those were better states to choose than I thought. There are only six other states with trans/gay panic defenses: NY, CT, HI, CA, NV, and IL. And CT was my third choice if my friend wanted another example.

Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington — liberal bastions, y'know — will let you walk away from a murder charge if you claim that finding out the victim was trans drove you into a rage so overpowering that your only choice was murder.

That's legalized hate crime there. And it's most of the nation.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on June 18, 2020, 12:04:05 AM
Washington is a pretty good state for trans folks, our governor made it clear that trans medical rights are still protected here even if they aren't federally.  That we still have trans panic as a defense for murder is awful.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:18:58 AM
Yeah well it's America

Also I fully expect the next underhanded step is for trump to start trying to normalize trans/gay panic because he's already given up on badly, badly fucking pretending to be an LGBT ally and his base will squirm in delight over legal hate crimes, also pride month is only halfway over and we had a win and the chuds cannot let that fucking stand
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on June 18, 2020, 12:27:00 AM
it's scary. i'm housebound and the kid is fragile, so we don't go out much to begin with, and i'm lucky to have found a queer positive school for them so they're not being threatened and beat up like they were in public school, but i have a lot of fear for my lgbtq brothers, sisters, and siblings who are more at risk than we are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
I got a rant on but I'm trying to regain my ability to keep the fucking rabies in check so all I'll say is my life-and-death situation and that of my queer siblings isn't for your fear, put your brain back at home or put work into fixing the lives of people who aren't your inner circle, none of this zero-investment "worry" bullshit, thanks

Tl;dr version is don't make my trauma about your mental fucking health
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on June 18, 2020, 12:48:40 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
I got a rant on but I'm trying to regain my ability to keep the fucking rabies in check so all I'll say is my life-and-death situation and that of my queer siblings isn't for your fear, put your brain back at home or put work into fixing the lives of people who aren't your inner circle, none of this zero-investment "worry" bullshit, thanks

Tl;dr version is don't make my trauma about your mental fucking health

i'm queer too, why can't i just be open about my fear? as someone who doesn't leave the house i have the fear in more a vague sense, but my kid (also queer, also traumatized, maybe not as much as you but it's not a fucking contest), they're gonna be in very real danger when they start going back to school via the public bus, going about their life living their own honesty, and fuck you for trying to tell me i'm co-opting your trauma like you're the only one here who has it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:50:38 AM
The way you talked sounded like Stupid fucking performative ally shit, and I've had it up to here with those fuckers

You get to be scared if you're in the community
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:59:55 AM
And to be clear I have actually had to deal with cishets fucking going "oh, it's so stressful, I'm so worried for all those people" and I've successfully driven them all to block me or avoid me now because I will not fucking HAVE IT, they can do something or shut the fuck up, by fucking god even the people who are being publicly hung in trees at this very fucking moment are doing shit for their queer groups, the white girls can shut the fuck up and get to work or stop whining about me being in danger, I'm so fucking mad
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Freeky on June 18, 2020, 01:06:37 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:59:55 AM
And to be clear I have actually had to deal with cishets fucking going "oh, it's so stressful, I'm so worried for all those people" and I've successfully driven them all to block me or avoid me now because I will not fucking HAVE IT, they can do something or shut the fuck up, by fucking god even the people who are being publicly hung in trees at this very fucking moment are doing shit for their queer groups, the white girls can shut the fuck up and get to work or stop whining about me being in danger, I'm so fucking mad

what a god damned mood. i'm lucky that i don't have to deal with this bullshit in the other spaces i inhabit, it's solidly queer or queer positive cishet without the performative nonsense. i think if i did i'd lose my mind
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:13:28 AM
Well I'll say this: if I get to New Zealand before you do, you can definitely crash with me while sorting out what you need. With my parents moving back to Australia (probably, current events pending) that's been my plan for a while now, because while I have no problem moving to the southern hemisphere, Australia and its "lol what if forest fires are good, actually" policies are not inspiring confidence in competent government there.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:13:28 AM
Well I'll say this: if I get to New Zealand before you do, you can definitely crash with me while sorting out what you need. With my parents moving back to Australia (probably, current events pending) that's been my plan for a while now, because while I have no problem moving to the southern hemisphere, Australia and its "lol what if forest fires are good, actually" policies are not inspiring confidence in competent government there.

I wouldn't worry abt my housing in NZ because of how asylum works there thank god for sane governance
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:28:34 AM
That is something then, at least. I'll admit I had no idea how NZ deals with asylum, but an Australian passport does mean my situation is a very easy one by comparison (unlimited right to remain and work...once my passport is renewed I can, in theory, just fly in and start applying for jobs tomorrow).
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 01:58:41 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 12:39:04 AM
I got a rant on but I'm trying to regain my ability to keep the fucking rabies in check so all I'll say is my life-and-death situation and that of my queer siblings isn't for your fear, put your brain back at home or put work into fixing the lives of people who aren't your inner circle, none of this zero-investment "worry" bullshit, thanks

Tl;dr version is don't make my trauma about your mental fucking health

Fucking boom.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 01:59:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:28:34 AM
That is something then, at least. I'll admit I had no idea how NZ deals with asylum, but an Australian passport does mean my situation is a very easy one by comparison (unlimited right to remain and work...once my passport is renewed I can, in theory, just fly in and start applying for jobs tomorrow).

I have learned that my Canadian citizenship and my work experience puts me in the "1" category.

But I'm not leaving, for two reasons.

1.  New Zealand doesn't need any Americans that don't need to be there, and

2.  My hate.  It's here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:00:53 AM
Quote from: Freeky on June 18, 2020, 01:06:37 AM

what a god damned mood. i'm lucky that i don't have to deal with this bullshit in the other spaces i inhabit, it's solidly queer or queer positive cishet without the performative nonsense. i think if i did i'd lose my mind

Jargon olympic gold medal, right here.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:01:16 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 01:59:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:28:34 AM
That is something then, at least. I'll admit I had no idea how NZ deals with asylum, but an Australian passport does mean my situation is a very easy one by comparison (unlimited right to remain and work...once my passport is renewed I can, in theory, just fly in and start applying for jobs tomorrow).

I have learned that my Canadian citizenship and my work experience puts me in the "1" category.

But I'm not leaving, for two reasons.

1.  New Zealand doesn't need any Americans that don't need to be there, and

2.  My hate.  It's here.

The only way I can see you leaving America is to go to Hungary. Maybe Brazil.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:02:26 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:01:16 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 01:59:59 AM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 01:28:34 AM
That is something then, at least. I'll admit I had no idea how NZ deals with asylum, but an Australian passport does mean my situation is a very easy one by comparison (unlimited right to remain and work...once my passport is renewed I can, in theory, just fly in and start applying for jobs tomorrow).

I have learned that my Canadian citizenship and my work experience puts me in the "1" category.

But I'm not leaving, for two reasons.

1.  New Zealand doesn't need any Americans that don't need to be there, and

2.  My hate.  It's here.

The only way I can see you leaving America is to go to Hungary. Maybe Brazil.

I hate them too, but not like I hate 'em here.  I won't leave until they kill me, and I plan to be a complete pain in the arse until that happens.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:05:26 AM
I'm just saying, if there was sudden real sweeping change overnight and everyone turned into a model of a free and inclusive society you MIGHT jet off to Orban's fascist paradise or Bolsonaro's neo-Nazi police state. It's a hard sell, but it's possible.

I cannot IMAGINE you would ever go to Malta. Or NZ. Or Finland.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
To be clear I say that only because Dok isn't Dok without some bastards to stomp on

He would never go somewhere that there's no joy in the stomping
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:10:53 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:05:26 AM
I'm just saying, if there was sudden real sweeping change overnight and everyone turned into a model of a free and inclusive society you MIGHT jet off to Orban's fascist paradise or Bolsonaro's neo-Nazi police state. It's a hard sell, but it's possible.

I cannot IMAGINE you would ever go to Malta. Or NZ. Or Finland.

I could go to New Zealand, but after fucking with Brian Tamaki, there'd be nothing to do.

Brazil would be fun.  In a "here for a good time, not a long time" sorta way.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:11:24 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
To be clear I say that only because Dok isn't Dok without some bastards to stomp on

He would never go somewhere that there's no joy in the stomping

5 years ago I could have adjusted, but now I'm full Dok.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:21:18 AM
#BunkerBitch

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503292-trump-wants-to-find-and-prosecute-whoever-told-media-about-bunker?fbclid=IwAR2UZo-_f-yjpP__70vLvAXWM5ZH2-b1uvRLrss785qGq3MS7K7kqX--85I
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on June 18, 2020, 06:30:32 AM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
To be clear I say that only because Dok isn't Dok without some bastards to stomp on

He would never go somewhere that there's no joy in the stomping

If you think there's no bastards in Malta, New Zealand or Finland you have a MUCH rosier view of humanity than I...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 18, 2020, 06:41:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 02:21:18 AM
#BunkerBitch

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503292-trump-wants-to-find-and-prosecute-whoever-told-media-about-bunker?fbclid=IwAR2UZo-_f-yjpP__70vLvAXWM5ZH2-b1uvRLrss785qGq3MS7K7kqX--85I (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503292-trump-wants-to-find-and-prosecute-whoever-told-media-about-bunker?fbclid=IwAR2UZo-_f-yjpP__70vLvAXWM5ZH2-b1uvRLrss785qGq3MS7K7kqX--85I)

Valentino Khan & Wuki - Better feat. Roxanna (Official Audio)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YUElcMzPY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7YUElcMzPY)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
The dog whistling has ended. They're just bringing out bugles now. This isn't one of those slightly exaggerated things, this is something where someone did real research to send a real specific message. And that message is not possible to misinterpret.

They are coming for all of you fuckers too. I fucking said so. And here it is, proof I'm right.

https://twitter.com/averysafecat/status/1273446909957550080?s=21
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 01:45:01 PM
Fox News got exerpts from John Bolton's book:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bolton-fox-news-obtains-excerpts

there's a lot of cutting stuff in there

QuoteBolton begins the memoir by dismissing "Washington's conventional wisdom on Trump's trajectory," saying it is largely "wrong" and "intellectually lazy" to conclude, as many have, that the president was held in check by an "axis of adults" during his first fifteen months in office.

That overall picture is "simplistic," Bolton writes.  In fact, the "axis of adults in many respects caused enduring problems not because they successfully managed Trump ... but because they did precisely the opposite. They didn't do nearly enough to establish order, and what they did do was so transparently self-serving and so publicly dismissive of many of Trump's very clear goals (whether worthy or unworthy) that they fed Trump's already-suspicious mindset, making it harder for those who came later to have legitimate policy exchanges with the President."

Because his "axis of adults" performed so poorly, Trump "second-guessed people's motives, saw conspiracies behind rocks, and remained stunningly uninformed on how to run the White House, let alone the huge federal government," Bolton says. The president began relying largely on "instinct" and "foreign relationships with other leaders," and as a result, "botched irretrievably" his transition and "opening year-plus" in office.

QuoteThroughout the memoir, Bolton raises various concerns about the day-to-day operations at the White House. For example, Trump chaired "weekly meetings" that "more closely resembled college food fights than careful decision making," Bolton writes. "After these sessions, had I believed in yoga, I probably could have used some."

"Trump generally had only two intelligence briefings per week, and in most of those, he spoke at greater length than the briefers, often on matters completely unrelated to subjects at hand," Bolton adds.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 06:38:10 PM
It's been a bad week for the pee-stained replacement Jesus.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/4901a69e2fb198705ab4f5370b28810a
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2020, 06:43:59 PM
The thing is, even though it was denied on what reads to be mostly procedural grounds, if they want to resubmit it they won't have time before the election.

If Trump loses, then this goes away entirely. And if not, it at least buys the Dreamers some time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
The dog whistling has ended. They're just bringing out bugles now. This isn't one of those slightly exaggerated things, this is something where someone did real research to send a real specific message. And that message is not possible to misinterpret.

They are coming for all of you fuckers too. I fucking said so. And here it is, proof I'm right.

https://twitter.com/averysafecat/status/1273446909957550080?s=21

Did you see this shit?????

https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol

Not only did the Trump campaign buy campaign ads featuring a nazi symbol... The campaign bought 88 of those ads.


Eighty. Eight. (https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/88)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
The dog whistling has ended. They're just bringing out bugles now. This isn't one of those slightly exaggerated things, this is something where someone did real research to send a real specific message. And that message is not possible to misinterpret.

They are coming for all of you fuckers too. I fucking said so. And here it is, proof I'm right.

https://twitter.com/averysafecat/status/1273446909957550080?s=21

Did you see this shit?????

https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol

Not only did the Trump campaign buy campaign ads featuring a nazi symbol... The campaign bought 88 of those ads.


Eighty. Eight. (https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/88)

This is Stephen Miller being cute again.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2020, 09:26:54 PM
Yup, I thought that when I saw the ads themselves. This just clinches it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 09:26:54 PM
Yup, I thought that when I saw the ads themselves. This just clinches it.

It's fucking painful when he thinks he's being clever.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 18, 2020, 10:14:08 PM
"Mouth-fucked by nazi's unconscious" he is.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 18, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
The first sentence of the advert has 14 words, btw.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
The first sentence of the advert has 14 words, btw.

Yep.  That's as Stephen Miller as it gets.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on June 18, 2020, 11:41:26 PM
Considering there are active paramilitary groups showing their faces (and guns) publicly now, ""lone wolf"" shooters hitting protestors, and the concentration camps have begun to be converted into death camps according to reporting... I feel like this is a dire threat no matter who it comes from.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on June 19, 2020, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
The dog whistling has ended. They're just bringing out bugles now. This isn't one of those slightly exaggerated things, this is something where someone did real research to send a real specific message. And that message is not possible to misinterpret.

They are coming for all of you fuckers too. I fucking said so. And here it is, proof I'm right.

https://twitter.com/averysafecat/status/1273446909957550080?s=21

Did you see this shit?????

https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol

Not only did the Trump campaign buy campaign ads featuring a nazi symbol... The campaign bought 88 of those ads.


Eighty. Eight. (https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/88)


Update (6/18/20, 1:15 p.m. EDT): Facebook has removed the ads in question following this post and public backlash. A Facebook spokesperson told Media Matters in a statement that "We removed these posts and ads for violating our policy against organized hate. Our policy prohibits using a banned hate group's symbol to identify political prisoners without the context that condemns or discusses the symbol."

***

But how long were the ads running for? Cause I would assume if they didnt have backlash they would have zero problem running them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 19, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
They were only up for a few hours in their original form. Less than 12, I think. Social media caught on very quickly to what was going on with these adverts.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 19, 2020, 07:29:04 PM
Thank you for help identifying these.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 26, 2020, 08:37:51 PM
Rumor is floating around parts of twitter that trump is getting too caught up in dementia, poll numbers tanking, so on and so forth...basically that we're going to see...a replacement. Some are saying Pence...but i'm not so sure (assuming there's any substance to the rumor anyway). I noticed Justin Amash seems to be waiting in the wings. Basically Trump...without all the White Nationalism. 


ETA: THAT IS TO SAY "OVERT" WHITE NATIONALISM
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on June 26, 2020, 09:14:14 PM
Sign me up
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 27, 2020, 01:59:22 PM
Quote from: Bu🤠ns on June 26, 2020, 08:37:51 PM
Rumor is floating around parts of twitter that trump is getting too caught up in dementia, poll numbers tanking, so on and so forth...basically that we're going to see...a replacement. Some are saying Pence...but i'm not so sure (assuming there's any substance to the rumor anyway). I noticed Justin Amash seems to be waiting in the wings. Basically Trump...without all the White Nationalism. 


ETA: THAT IS TO SAY "OVERT" WHITE NATIONALISM

no fuckin way, not in a million years

Trump has too much energy invested in reelection, he cannot unplug that macihne now unless someone gives him an Out with High Ground. He's not gonna quit. I will believe it when I see it.

If I had a dollar for every post or article I've seen about how trump's goose is cooked, he's fucked now, it's all over, he can't win... I've been seeing that energy since 2015 and it's never been right.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2020, 03:05:21 PM
Like Cram, I'd be surprised.

It should be noted there are some interesting "Republican against Trump" groups who are coordinating with Biden, however. As much as I'm not a fan of Biden, the things that make me not a fan of him make him very acceptable to "Never Trump" Republican centrists and his campaign has been coordinating with these groups.

I could definitely see them floating rumours of this kind, and putting forward Amash as a candidate to split the vote.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on June 27, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 18, 2020, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: altered on June 18, 2020, 06:57:03 AM
The dog whistling has ended. They're just bringing out bugles now. This isn't one of those slightly exaggerated things, this is something where someone did real research to send a real specific message. And that message is not possible to misinterpret.

They are coming for all of you fuckers too. I fucking said so. And here it is, proof I'm right.

https://twitter.com/averysafecat/status/1273446909957550080?s=21

Did you see this shit?????

https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol

Not only did the Trump campaign buy campaign ads featuring a nazi symbol... The campaign bought 88 of those ads.


Eighty. Eight. (https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/88)

This is Stephen Miller being cute again.

More or less my exact thought. Hate group "experts" were contorting themselves into pretzels over whether or not the red triangle thing was a "real" fascist dogwhistle or whatever. The fact that these turds honestly just get a big kick out of sharing their little not-secret codes just completely escapes them.

Like, years ago we were tickled pink that Colbert held up a yellow apple and said "Ewige Blumenkraft!" on-air. It didn't mean anything material, it was just funny.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 27, 2020, 09:25:32 PM
Well my whole speculation is that if there's going to be a replacement (as Cram has mentioned about buying a goose for a dollar) that they would begin to trot out the patsy about now. plus a lot of the news seems to have a different ... uh ... flavor. I only mentioned Amash bc I feel like he'd be a contender for the centrist vote--the mirror biden, iow. Romney is there too--but idk.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 28, 2020, 06:26:42 AM
The thing is, if they wanted a replacement for Trump they could have had one six months ago. Fundamentally, nothing has changed since the impeachment hearings. From that, I can only conclude that the Republican Party is not only comfortable with Trumpism, it will actively accommodate it.

As such, if they were going to replace Trump himself, it would be with someone who could seem like a natural successor, continue his policies and placate his supporters. Tom Cotton for example, or another member of the Trump family even.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 28, 2020, 08:03:26 AM
okay -- cool.  that gives me somethign to think about thanks!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 28, 2020, 08:31:06 AM
I think it's worth remembering that senior Republicans are very aware how many crazy people support Trump as well. And Trump himself isn't exactly adverse to calling out his enemies. If they're going to remove him, it would have to be in a way where he doesn't feel slighted or maligned, because the moment he does he can call them "deep state traitors" on Twitter and have the mob show up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 28, 2020, 07:45:04 PM
I wonder if he can physically and mentally continue tbh. He seems to be getting worse and I wonder how much longer they can prop him up. Unless that's total horseshit ofc--although it doesn't seem so. I would think the Republicans would have a contingency plan in place that would take into consideration the crazy supporters. Then the daily beast article about him thinking biden will win (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-seemingly-tells-sean-hannity-that-biden-will-win-saying-hes-going-to-be-your-president). Also the recent ousting of Berman that seemed to fail in a good way.

I guess the SCOTUS opinions on Monday/Tuesday might be the scale tipper wrt the Mazars and Deutche Bank stuff-- I really have no clue at the end of the day but it's fun to speculate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ETA: i wanted to chuck in this politico article (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/27/trump-losing-2020-election-342326) despite any misgivings about cooked geese.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 29, 2020, 12:58:17 AM
Continuing is the only option, really. It can't be a proper morality tale without a shakespearian descent into madness, murder and suicide. Madness is on track, so I'm expecting pompeos head on a literal pike around September.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on June 29, 2020, 01:33:05 AM
The notion of being a "one-term President" is abhorrent to Trump; I think it very unlikely that he would step aside voluntarily.

No, he'll be on the ticket come November, and after the election, he will rage vehemently about how the vote was rigged against him...even if he wins.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2020, 01:50:12 AM
The other consideration is that Trump will seek to stay in office for as long as possible, to continue to profit from it and to avoid criminal prosection.

That puts him in an interesting position vis-a-vis the Senate Republicans, because it means so long as they enable Trump's criminality, Trump will look the other way regarding their own crimes, literal or otherwise.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nibor the Priest on June 29, 2020, 02:30:07 AM
I fully expect him to refuse to leave if he loses. He's already setting up a narrative about how the election will be rigged, and he's been dogwhistling like crazy to his gun-toting supporters about how they're going to be his first line of defence against the liberal mob.

Republicans' caution about Trump has never been about his politics or even his personal awfulness, because those values aren't substantially different from much of the Republican party's. They just didn't think they could get away with it. Every day they discover they can get away with a bit more than they thought, and now they're just seeing how far he can take them.

I don't want to be right, but I suspect he's in there till he dies of a stroke that goes untreated for three days because his aides are too scared to check on him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on June 29, 2020, 04:37:11 AM
He's out Jan 21st if it's still contested for that long which it won't be. justdon'tlookatbushvgore
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 29, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
presuming a clear election result, I'm starting to think that "trump won't leave office willingly" is the left wing version of "obama's gonna take your guns"



Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nibor the Priest on June 29, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Well, I hope so. He's already doing his best to ensure the result will be unclear, at least to his own base. I think he'll do it through bureaucratic wrangles and Supreme Court challenges rather than a straight-up coup. It's not that much more than what Bush Jr did.

(And we probably won't keep on saying it after he leaves office, at least.)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2020, 05:43:10 PM
That's what I'd suspect, yes. Legally speaking once he's declared the loser he's locked out and I doubt the Secret Service will give zero fucks if he complains.

So he'll have to muddy the water beforehand, relying on disinfo programs, foreign interference and voter suppression to carry the result for him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on June 29, 2020, 08:50:30 PM
Don't forget about the militia crowd. I suspect the cliven bundys of the country will need little encouragement, goaded correctly.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2020, 12:49:39 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
presuming a clear election result, I'm starting to think that "trump won't leave office willingly" is the left wing version of "obama's gonna take your guns"

What part of Trump's behavior leads you to draw that comparison?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 01:35:08 PM
whew this was a read: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2020, 12:49:39 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
presuming a clear election result, I'm starting to think that "trump won't leave office willingly" is the left wing version of "obama's gonna take your guns"

What part of Trump's behavior leads you to draw that comparison?

I do think it's in his wheelhouse to contest, cloud, and corrupt the election results.

But if it's a clear loss for him? Like a landslide? Then it's over.

What's he gonna say? *rapidly scribbling an executive order* "Me, the secret service, and the army will physically block Biden from coming into this oval office and presidenting" ?

Rule of Law is decaying, but it's not so decayed that clear election results just get tossed out.


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 02:39:09 PM
Nothing super solid here about Melania's long term boyfriend, but could be credible

https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/02/trump-insider-claims-melania-has-a-long-term-boyfriend-and-trump-knows-about-it/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2020, 12:03:53 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 30, 2020, 12:49:39 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
presuming a clear election result, I'm starting to think that "trump won't leave office willingly" is the left wing version of "obama's gonna take your guns"

What part of Trump's behavior leads you to draw that comparison?

I do think it's in his wheelhouse to contest, cloud, and corrupt the election results.

But if it's a clear loss for him? Like a landslide? Then it's over.

What's he gonna say? *rapidly scribbling an executive order* "Me, the secret service, and the army will physically block Biden from coming into this oval office and presidenting" ?

Rule of Law is decaying, but it's not so decayed that clear election results just get tossed out.

Just so you know, the alteration of Rome from a republic to an autocracy took a long time to set up, but the actual transition took less than 30 months.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 01, 2020, 12:46:58 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 01, 2020, 12:03:53 AM
Just so you know, the alteration of Rome from a republic to an autocracy took a long time to set up, but the actual transition took less than 30 months.

I'd like to think that such a takeover would require someone with more competence than Trump, but I fear that is just wishful thinking.  Not much from south of the border can surprise me at this point.  Shock and dismay, yes, surprise, no.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 01, 2020, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 02:39:09 PM
Nothing super solid here about Melania's long term boyfriend, but could be credible

https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/02/trump-insider-claims-melania-has-a-long-term-boyfriend-and-trump-knows-about-it/

It's just so ironic that the right wing's God-Emperor, can actually be described the same as, one of their favourite and preffered insults: a cuck.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 01, 2020, 02:53:01 AM
Oh, it's very on brand. The levels of projection on the right nowadays are enough to keep cinemas running films for the next 100 years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 01, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on July 01, 2020, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 30, 2020, 02:39:09 PM
Nothing super solid here about Melania's long term boyfriend, but could be credible

https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/02/trump-insider-claims-melania-has-a-long-term-boyfriend-and-trump-knows-about-it/

It's just so ironic that the right wing's God-Emperor, can actually be described the same as, one of their favourite and preffered insults: a cuck.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

how did I not put that together?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 01, 2020, 04:01:34 PM
I've heard before about the boyfriend and had heard that she and 45 renegotiated the prenup, but that 45 was okay with it is news, as is the potential divorce.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 01, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
Hundreds of Bush-Administration officials are forming a Super Pac to support Biden: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-republicans-exclus/exclusive-hundreds-of-george-w-bush-administration-officials-to-back-biden-group-says-idUSKBN24253R
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 02, 2020, 01:52:24 AM
Yup, those are the ones I've been mentioning, this has been in the works for a while now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: methbong on July 03, 2020, 01:46:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
The first sentence of the advert has 14 words, btw.

Yep.  That's as Stephen Miller as it gets.

Infamous Jewish NeoNazi Stephen Miller cleverly runs ads that start with 14 words.

One Nazi to another: "Gee have you noticed how Trump just loves sucking off Israel at every opportunity he gets?"

"No you dont get it, look at this facebook ad it has a red triangle and 14 words! Hes totally on our side!"

"I cant wait for him to send even more money to Israel! Haill Hitler!"

Gotta give Zizek credit for coining the term "postmodern antisemetism." Someone had to come up with a rationalization for why all the secret Nazis in the Republican party who are also jewish love Israel so much.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 03, 2020, 05:38:32 AM
Quote from: methbong on July 03, 2020, 01:46:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
The first sentence of the advert has 14 words, btw.

Yep.  That's as Stephen Miller as it gets.

Infamous Jewish NeoNazi Stephen Miller cleverly runs ads that start with 14 words.

One Nazi to another: "Gee have you noticed how Trump just loves sucking off Israel at every opportunity he gets?"

"No you dont get it, look at this facebook ad it has a red triangle and 14 words! Hes totally on our side!"

"I cant wait for him to send even more money to Israel! Haill Hitler!"

Gotta give Zizek credit for coining the term "postmodern antisemetism." Someone had to come up with a rationalization for why all the secret Nazis in the Republican party who are also jewish love Israel so much.

I give this freak 1 day before he starts jabbering about the "dark enlightenment" or "dark cathedral" or some other inane shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: methbong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 03, 2020, 05:38:32 AM
Quote from: methbong on July 03, 2020, 01:46:03 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 18, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
The first sentence of the advert has 14 words, btw.

Yep.  That's as Stephen Miller as it gets.

Infamous Jewish NeoNazi Stephen Miller cleverly runs ads that start with 14 words.

One Nazi to another: "Gee have you noticed how Trump just loves sucking off Israel at every opportunity he gets?"

"No you dont get it, look at this facebook ad it has a red triangle and 14 words! Hes totally on our side!"

"I cant wait for him to send even more money to Israel! Haill Hitler!"

Gotta give Zizek credit for coining the term "postmodern antisemetism." Someone had to come up with a rationalization for why all the secret Nazis in the Republican party who are also jewish love Israel so much.

I give this freak 1 day before he starts jabbering about the "dark enlightenment" or "dark cathedral" or some other inane shit.

No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 03, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: methdong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

If it was not your intention to be viewed as a gibbering meth-head, styling yourself "methdong" and babbling about "Jewish NeoNazis" may not have been a good choice.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Nibor the Priest on July 03, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: methbong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

Do you think all the other words just popped fully formed out of the Big Bang or what?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: methbong on July 03, 2020, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 03, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: methdong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

If it was not your intention to be viewed as a gibbering meth-head, styling yourself "methdong" and babbling about "Jewish NeoNazis" may not have been a good choice.

Im not the one who caught Stephen Miller, who is jewish, doing a nazi "dogwhistle" and thought I was clever. I feel like when someone is accused of being a Nazi, the fact that they are jewish is relevant. Antisemetism is, last time I checked, a big part of being a Nazi.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 03, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 03, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: methdong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

If it was not your intention to be viewed as a gibbering meth-head, styling yourself "methdong" and babbling about "Jewish NeoNazis" may not have been a good choice.

But it's DIFFERENT for him.  He is a poptart.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: methbong on July 03, 2020, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on July 03, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: methbong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

Do you think all the other words just popped fully formed out of the Big Bang or what?

I refuse to humor NIck Land/Moldbug stupidity. I refuse to pretend their stupid blog posts are some kind of coherent philosophy and that all their made up words mean anything. Like "cathedral", it literally means nothing. Its a term so vague and meaningless it could be applied to almost anything and they mask this using a stimmed up verbal diarrhea word salad writing style that basically dares you to call them out on it. Its the same bluff as post modernism or gender studies.

"Heh, you dont GET the 'Cathedral'? Sorry if its a bit OVER YOUR HEAD. Im not writing for the COMMON RABBLE like yourself, Im writing for the INTELLECTUAL ELITE(Javascript Programmers)"

You could put guns to Nick Land and Moldbugs heads and give them hours and they would never even come close to explaining what they actually mean by those words.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on July 03, 2020, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Nyborj the Priest on July 03, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: methbong on July 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM
No I talk using real words, not gibbering methhead neologisms.

Do you think all the other words just popped fully formed out of the Big Bang or what?

I think he means as opposed to imaginary words.  like how the word ₰ꝣꝳṵᵹ is meant to represent the square root of fnord.

₰ꝣꝳṵᵹ ^2 = fnord
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 03, 2020, 07:03:14 PM
Great, in my mind the word cathedral now also looks like a cat-faced polytope. Perfect, just perfect.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 06, 2020, 08:24:27 PM
tmw your president gets mad because you stop acting racist.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-criticizes-redskins-indians-over-potential-name-changes/ar-BB16pels
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 07, 2020, 07:03:40 PM
Of course he is. 🙄

In other news, his niece's book says he's Like That bc his character was forged by child abuse and neglect at the hands of his father.

Heads up for that kind of thing in the article, btw:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-worldview-forged-by-neglect-and-trauma-at-home-his-niece-says-in-new-book/2020/07/07/b19b22f6-bf9d-11ea-864a-0dd31b9d6917_story.html

I feel like anyone who has spent time working with people (children especially tho) would recognize that but, like, that stops being an excuse in adolescence and is definitely not an excuse for his geriatric ass.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 07, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Yeah. That kind of thing can be sympathetic to a degree...until you remember just how much abuse he has dished out at others in return, and how it dwarfs his own suffering by vast magnitudes.

And it's not like he can't afford the therapy to work through these issues, or is in the kind of financial position where he can't avoid toxic personalities who appeal to his worst instincts either.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2020, 03:43:40 PM
And then SCOTUS punted.

https://apnews.com/a7a9e075f0ac771e95bf0fc6012d181a
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
AP News has "breaking" that the Trump administration has sanctioned 3 Chinese officials for human rights violations.

My guess is that the Chinese will point and laugh, as will the rest of the world, given our recent record on that sort of thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 09, 2020, 06:05:03 PM
Sounds like there's more planned. That it's over what is happening in Xinjiang, I have to say I'm not terribly upset that they've finally chosen to act, though my preference would be to make it far more wide-reaching and, of course, to actually do it from a position where I don't look like a massive hypocrite.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2020, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 09, 2020, 06:05:03 PM
Sounds like there's more planned. That it's over what is happening in Xinjiang, I have to say I'm not terribly upset that they've finally chosen to act, though my preference would be to make it far more wide-reaching and, of course, to actually do it from a position where I don't look like a massive hypocrite.

That isn't actually possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on July 11, 2020, 06:18:12 PM
Roger Stone's sentence has been commuted.  Nauseating, but unsurprising.

I wonder who managed to talk Trump out of giving him a full pardon.

...actually, why didn't he just pardon him?  The optics aren't much different.  Is there some legal subtlety going on?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 12, 2020, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 11, 2020, 06:18:12 PM
Roger Stone's sentence has been commuted.  Nauseating, but unsurprising.

I wonder who managed to talk Trump out of giving him a full pardon.

...actually, why didn't he just pardon him?  The optics aren't much different.  Is there some legal subtlety going on?

His sentence was only like 3 years and a half regardless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 12, 2020, 04:33:32 AM
Yup. That

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on July 12, 2020, 05:11:48 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on July 11, 2020, 06:18:12 PM
Roger Stone's sentence has been commuted.  Nauseating, but unsurprising.

I wonder who managed to talk Trump out of giving him a full pardon.

...actually, why didn't he just pardon him?  The optics aren't much different.  Is there some legal subtlety going on?

My understanding is that Roger Stone asked for a commuted sentence rather than a pardon.

Apparently if one receives a pardon that does weird things in regard to 5th Amendment protections and a person can, somehow, be compelled to testify.

By only having the sentence  commuted Mr. Stone cannot be compelled to testify if doing so would self incriminate.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 12, 2020, 05:25:37 PM
Ah, that's the trick.

Yeah, to receive a pardon you are actually admitting guilt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 12, 2020, 05:32:36 PM
It's more than that, because a pardon absolves you of any crime. Guilt isn't part of the matter at all, there's a legal fiction of "at this moment in time for you this action was not a crime". You can't "self-incriminate" if you did nothing wrong, so the Fifth doesn't apply after you've been pardoned.

The optics are also (in theory) very different between pardoning and commutation. I had to do a lot of looking and research to be able to say this with any confidence:

A pardon says "Crime? There's an accusation? We're deaf, never heard of it, go live your life." A commutation is more like "yes you're a criminal but we'll be nice to you." Commutation to release LOOKS more like thumbing your nose at the law than a pardon does: "yes, this person committed a crime. We're okay with that." Doing away with the part where you pretend they were an upstanding human being at that moment in time, and basically just celebrating a blatant criminal's blatant criminality.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on July 12, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. My assumption was that a commutated sentence still implies the possibility of serving that time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 14, 2020, 03:42:26 PM
QuoteThe execution of Lee, who died at 8:07 a.m. EDT, went off after a series of legal volleys that ended when the Supreme Court stepped in early Tuesday in a 5-4 ruling and allowed it to move forward.

QuoteAttorney General William Barr has said the Justice Department has a duty to carry out the sentences imposed by the courts, including the death penalty, and provide closure to the victims and those in the communities where the killings happened.

But relatives of those killed by Lee in 1996 opposed that idea and argued Lee deserved life in prison. They wanted to be present to counter any contention the execution was being done on their behalf.

(bolding mine)

Unless those sentences involve Flynn or Stone, of course.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 16, 2020, 07:31:31 PM
You know those Bush Admin people who've been blasting out these anti-trump ads? Colbert's writers have not forgotten the Bush administration. This shit is BRUTAL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNvuYPpX0C0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 16, 2020, 07:46:43 PM

That Donald and Ivanka doing product placement for Goya in the White House, thats some next level cynism  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on July 16, 2020, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on July 16, 2020, 07:31:31 PM
You know those Bush Admin people who've been blasting out these anti-trump ads? Colbert's writers have not forgotten the Bush administration. This shit is BRUTAL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNvuYPpX0C0

Those guys look like Biden's path to the whitehouse to me.  He doesn't appeal to Lefties at all, he'll get plenty of Dem moderate votes, but that's not enough, the fact that he's also getting support from the Republican establishment is what can give him the edge over Trump.

Mind you, it also means he will be about as good a president as George W Bush.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 17, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
oh yeah, I think it's a good cause and I don't object to it in principle.. right wing resistance to trump is the only way to move the needle.

but I also respect Colbert for not giving these guys a free pass - these exact characters spent 8 years kicking us in the stomach


and the dig about their overhead spending does make it all seem a bit suspect--but I can believe the guy's explanation that a lot of that first quarter is startup cost
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 17, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
What sucks is that these neoliberal Bush-era Republicans don't feel like their ideals will be threatened under a Biden presidency.

Which means they feel Biden is functionally a moderate conservative.  Which... I mean, yeah.

If Warren or [that other guy] were the Democratic candidate, I doubt they'd be as energetic as this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 17, 2020, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 17, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
What sucks is that these neoliberal Bush-era Republicans don't feel like their ideals will be threatened under a Biden presidency.

Which means they feel Biden is functionally a moderate conservative.  Which... I mean, yeah.

If Warren or [that other guy] were the Democratic candidate, I doubt they'd be as energetic as this.

Given the option, I'm just gonna bite the bullet and deal with the situation for what it is, and vote against Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 17, 2020, 04:38:31 PM
Anyone else notice those DHS assholes disappearing protesters in Oregon?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 17, 2020, 04:48:51 PM
Yeah.

There's some heavy duty eyes on this shit, and the general consensus is it's about 50/50 disappearance and extraction, with the disappearances meant to cover up the extraction of scabs, and the Fear a nice side effect bonus.

Real Nacht und Nebel bullshit. However...

No one's made too much fuss about missing persons yet, so I'm personally assuming they're driving them around and letting them go later to keep things from getting too "cornered rat": people filming strangers being taken is terrifying enough for the N&N effect since no one immediately present can verify identity, let alone if they're okay or not a couple days later.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 17, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
That's what it sounds like to me as well, catch and release: Stasi edition. Pick people up, refuse to say anything, drive them around for a while, give them a beating and then throw them out of the van.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on July 18, 2020, 02:05:34 AM
Portland's Mayor condemned it, but there hasn't been any action by the Portland PD to actually stop it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 18, 2020, 03:26:12 AM
Coming from chicago area, i can't not think of Holman Square (http://https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square-chicago-police-disappeared-thousands)





derp
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 18, 2020, 04:21:25 AM
That ain't a link, Burns
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Don Coyote on July 18, 2020, 04:26:07 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on July 18, 2020, 02:05:34 AM
Portland's Mayor condemned it, but there hasn't been any action by the Portland PD to actually stop it.
The pattern of behavior of the PD and the feds indicate that the mayor is tacitly ok with this.
Never mind that the portland pd arent the good guys anyways.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2020, 03:38:04 PM
Portland tactics are going nationwide

NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892393079/dhs-official-on-reports-of-federal-officers-detaining-protesters-in-portland-ore):

QuoteWell, we are – we welcome – the more investigations, the better. With as much lawbreaking is going on, we're seeking to prosecute as many people as are breaking the law as it relates to federal jurisdiction. That's not always happening with respect to local jurisdiction and local offenses. But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we're responsible for around the country.

And The Nation's Ken Klippenstein (who I'm really warming to as a journalist lately) has obtained internal documents (https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1284244386088460288?fbclid=IwAR0Qh3ORetKOHzWF1ejD5Hk7qiyKq9TbivxYGyDRCCUs5rlms4sd_k842WI) that also confirm this will be rolled out in cities across the US.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 18, 2020, 05:15:37 PM
Unsurprised. Things are getting set up for a proper fascist dictatorship now, because he has limited time before the election and doesn't dare leave things to chance.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 18, 2020, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 17, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
That's what it sounds like to me as well, catch and release: Stasi edition. Pick people up, refuse to say anything, drive them around for a while, give them a beating and then throw them out of the van.

It's a bit worse than that.

https://twitter.com/betacuck4lyfe/status/1284227089726451712?s=21

Note: "pressured to waive their rights".

This goes beyond a simple drive around and beat down — which would be bad still. There's something more here, but I'm not making the connection. Obviously the fear is a part of it, but the rights part? That's creepy in a way that suggests a larger picture.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 19, 2020, 03:45:22 PM
That is indeed worse. That would open them to being detained in the future without a lawyer or right to silence, if I'm not mistaken? I know in theory you can revoke waiving your Miranda rights at a later point, but in practice, under this administration, with the amount of friendly judges it has packed into the courts? I don't see it flying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on July 18, 2020, 02:05:34 AM
Portland's Mayor condemned it, but there hasn't been any action by the Portland PD to actually stop it.

Oregon's Sec State is suing the federal government over it.

What they're really going to have to do is bring the NG in to protect the citizens from the federal government.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 21, 2020, 03:49:09 PM
Wouldn't that constitute Civil War 2? Or at least reason for the feds to start that in earnest?

My train of thought is based on Trump's reaction to hearing that the NatGuard is involved AGAINST his Schutzstaffel, which is guaranteed to be along the lines of "BOMB THE FUCK OUT OF THEM I HATE THEM THEY'RE EMBARRASSING ME."

Which would indeed constitute a second Civil War, in my mind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2020, 04:51:47 PM
In theory, the National Guard could be put under Federal command by Trump. He wouldn't be able to use them for law enforcement, but he could keep them sequestered and unable to act in the case of a conflict. It'd be similar to what Eisenhower did in Arkansas. There, the governor mobilised the National Guard to prevent desegregation of schools, so Eisenhower effectively took command of them and prevented them from being used.

Trump's advisers likely know this, because they were looking at using the National Guard to aid in deportations back in 2017.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2020, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: altered on July 21, 2020, 03:49:09 PM
Wouldn't that constitute Civil War 2? Or at least reason for the feds to start that in earnest?

My train of thought is based on Trump's reaction to hearing that the NatGuard is involved AGAINST his Schutzstaffel, which is guaranteed to be along the lines of "BOMB THE FUCK OUT OF THEM I HATE THEM THEY'RE EMBARRASSING ME."

Which would indeed constitute a second Civil War, in my mind.

I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 21, 2020, 04:51:47 PM
In theory, the National Guard could be put under Federal command by Trump. He wouldn't be able to use them for law enforcement, but he could keep them sequestered and unable to act in the case of a conflict. It'd be similar to what Eisenhower did in Arkansas. There, the governor mobilised the National Guard to prevent desegregation of schools, so Eisenhower effectively took command of them and prevented them from being used.

Trump's advisers likely know this, because they were looking at using the National Guard to aid in deportations back in 2017.

Assuming they choose to listen to the federalization order.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
True. Not doing so would definitely make something approaching a civil war seem more likely, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 21, 2020, 06:16:55 PM
Meanwhile, concerning the assassin of Judge Salas' family...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/judge-esther-salas-shooting-suspect-left-pro-trump-paper-trail/614425/

QuoteRoy Den Hollander, the self-described "anti-feminist" attorney who authorities say is the chief suspect in the shootings of the son and the husband of a federal judge in New Jersey, attacked that judge by name in misogynistic, racist writings he wrote over a period of years and posted in bulk on the Internet Archive. Den Hollander, who describes himself as a Trump volunteer in his writings, called the judge an "affirmative action" case who affiliated with those who wanted "to convince America that whites, especially white males, were barbarians, and all those of a darker skin complexion were victims."

QuoteIn contrast, he writes in the same sprawling document that he was a volunteer for the presidential campaign of Donald Trump, who he said "was telling the truth about illegal aliens in his bid for the Presidency." Den Hollander describes "leaving the law library in the early afternoon for Trump Tower, 12 blocks up Fifth Avenue, to make telephone calls during the primaries and the general election." Recounting his time working for the campaign, he says most of his fellow volunteers "were aging baby boomers like me. Once in a while some hot young model chick would show up to make calls. They never sat next to me." The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a question about the nature of Den Hollander's volunteer work, or whether they had any record of his involvement.

Den Hollander, who was 72, held deeply misogynistic beliefs about women and filed a series of lawsuits against what he considered unfair advantages they had over men. One of those suits, in which he argued that it was unconstitutional for women not to be subject to military draft, reached Salas's court in 2019. Salas did not throw out the suit, as many of Den Hollander's previous cases had been. She instead allowed the lawsuit to proceed through the court system. But Den Hollander was upset by what he considered to be Salas's delaying of the case. He complained that she allowed the Department of Justice to file its fourth motion to dismiss the case, suggesting she was "trying to keep this case in her court until a weatherman showed her which way the legal winds were blowing."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 21, 2020, 07:16:13 PM
Federal agents literally kidnapping folks..

https://apnews.com/a2c8f23381dcc7e6902452b55c3048ce

QuoteState and local authorities, who didn't ask for federal help, are awaiting a ruling in a lawsuit filed late last week. State Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said in court papers that masked federal officers have arrested people on the street, far from the courthouse, with no probable cause and whisked them away in unmarked cars.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 21, 2020, 07:53:48 PM

Antifa are the real fascists tho   :fnord:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 23, 2020, 02:47:08 AM
https://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 04:19:46 PM
https://apnews.com/edd4ebdd7a245e568da69db38aea04db

Portland's mayor gets gassed by federal agents.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 23, 2020, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 04:19:46 PM
https://apnews.com/edd4ebdd7a245e568da69db38aea04db

Portland's mayor gets gassed by federal agents.

Turnabout is fair play, I guess
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 23, 2020, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 04:19:46 PM
https://apnews.com/edd4ebdd7a245e568da69db38aea04db

Portland's mayor gets gassed by federal agents.

Turnabout is fair play, I guess

While I'd love to laugh about it, this isn't actually good news.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 23, 2020, 05:30:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 23, 2020, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 04:19:46 PM
https://apnews.com/edd4ebdd7a245e568da69db38aea04db

Portland's mayor gets gassed by federal agents.

Turnabout is fair play, I guess

While I'd love to laugh about it, this isn't actually good news.

I know its still too soon in the timeline, but for a second I had a different mental image of what you meant by gassed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 05:37:37 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on July 23, 2020, 05:30:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 23, 2020, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 04:19:46 PM
https://apnews.com/edd4ebdd7a245e568da69db38aea04db

Portland's mayor gets gassed by federal agents.

Turnabout is fair play, I guess

While I'd love to laugh about it, this isn't actually good news.

I know its still too soon in the timeline, but for a second I had a different mental image of what you meant by gassed.

Oh, that's still few months out.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
Also, this happened:

https://apnews.com/a9ef5ee158ef0f118de144e96e170885

QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — A judge ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer on Thursday, saying he believes the government retaliated against him for planning to release a book about Trump before November's election.

Michael Cohen's First Amendment rights were violated when he was ordered back to prison on July 9 after probation authorities said he refused to sign a form banning him from publishing the book or communicating publicly in other manners, U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein said during a telephone conference.

Hellerstein ordered Michael Cohen released from prison by 2 p.m. on Friday.

"How can I take any other inference than that it's retaliatory?" Hellerstein asked prosecutors, who insisted in court papers and again Thursday that Probation Department officers did not know about the book when they wrote a provision of home confinement that severely restricted Cohen's public communications.

"I've never seen such a clause in 21 years of being a judge and sentencing people and looking at terms of supervised release," the judge said. "Why would the Bureau of Prisons ask for something like this ... unless there was a retaliatory purpose?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on July 24, 2020, 12:02:38 AM
This also happened - https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/05/deeply-disturbing-new-york-supreme-court-judge-rules-protesters-can-be-detained?utm_campaign=shareaholic

QuoteA New York State Supreme Court judge on Thursday rejected a petition seeking the immediate release of hundreds of protesters who had been held by the New York Police Department for more than 24 hours, ruling that extraordinary circumstances justify indefinite detention.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 24, 2020, 01:58:12 AM
🙃 great
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2020, 04:58:27 PM
SO CLOSE.

https://apnews.com/e33624678d5d6422ded5c9d732b1f543
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 28, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shares-tweet-covid-misinformation-deleted-video-fauci-masks-125845165.html

QuoteDr. Stella Immanuel, one of the participants in the video, responded to Facebook pulling it by threatening the company with the wrath of God.

"Hello Facebook put back my profile page and videos up or your computers with start crashing till you do," Immanuel wrote on Twitter late Monday. "You are not bigger that God. I promise you. If my page is not back up face book will be down in Jesus name."

Immanuel is also a minister with sermons posted to YouTube. The description of one upload reads, "How long are we going to allow the gay agenda, secular humanism, Illuminati and the demonic New World Order to destroy our homes, families and the social fiber of America." Immanuel has also claimed that some medical issues are caused by dream sex with demons and that alien DNA is currently being used in some medical treatments.

Ya bedda get dat vid back up or some unfortunate shit gonna happen in Jesus' name, capice? I know people, people that wanna hear what I got to say an I don't know how it's gonna go if they don't hear me. Could be bad ya get me? Demons might inject you with gay alien DNA the hard way. Crazy shit happens sometimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 28, 2020, 09:35:44 PM
So, from this appearance how long until Barr finally goes? Nice distraction firing for the election run up. Run on law and order then fire high level law cronies when they fail you. Its pure idiot so the question is only when, and when. Will barrs book be out? Guessing March 21 for book. It must be half written from that showing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 28, 2020, 10:36:35 PM
Wrong look, Junkie.

Barr is in. He mocked everyone who went to bat against him (especially the women) and made a big show of getting chummy with the Right People. Yes, he basically admitted he's a criminal, but he did it in a way where that made it someone else's problem. The framing is right for Barr to stay.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2020, 01:39:19 AM
Also he knew very well what he was doing by bringing up John Lewis. This hearing wasn't in a vacuum...although it always feels like it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2020, 05:36:59 AM
Barr is Trump's Roy Cohen, he's in until the bitter end.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2020, 09:17:25 AM
And given Roy Cohn was Trump's Roy Cohn at one stage (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship), it's probably fair to say he knew what he was looking for in Barr.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on July 29, 2020, 03:13:35 PM
I just can't wrap my head around what stake Barr has in this. At risk of sounding like some kind of truther, is Barr already entrenched in some way? The fact that his father, Donald Barr, was close with a 22 year old Epstein... HW Bush fixer...like why come out of retirement at this point? or in what way is dogboy Barr entrenched in all of this?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 29, 2020, 05:19:06 PM
In any corrupt organization, it is easy to find people who have no existing self interest willing to risk it all for the organization because they:
Agree with it
Want to belong to an exclusive clique that they believe will attain power (thus getting a sort of immunity by community and/or access to power)

He doesn't need to be entrenched already. Just to have an ideological alignment, a sycophantic instinct, or reason to believe they will preserve him and/or his reputation from unrelated crimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 29, 2020, 07:35:40 PM
Logically, that all makes sense. But these are the horrible times and I've still got 80,000 lira on Barr fired by October. You can't say it's not worth a punt.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on July 29, 2020, 07:38:01 PM
Never bet against a sure thing, Junkie.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on July 29, 2020, 07:40:39 PM
In these times, always throw a few quid at the horrible impossible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2020, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."

That's not enough to avoid the tar and feathers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 30, 2020, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2020, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."

That's not enough to avoid the tar and feathers.

But who will you call when the president is the biggest threat to the countries safety and what the fuck are checks and balances - everything would be 1000x times simpler if you guys just fought on the fascists side in WWII and save everyone the trouble and incoherence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 30, 2020, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."
Dick Cheney vibes. 🙄
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on July 30, 2020, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: Juana on July 30, 2020, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."
Dick Cheney vibes. 🙄

Much worse. I consider Cheney a rational strategist compared to Barr. He is a low key fanatical Dominionist setting up for the return of Authoritarian Jesus, methinks.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on July 30, 2020, 10:16:39 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on July 30, 2020, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: Juana on July 30, 2020, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 29, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
This could be one plausible explanation. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/24/21281485/bill-barr-donald-trump-congress-david-rohde)

"He believes the president should be more powerful than Congress and the courts. In his mind, that's the only thing that can keep the country safe when it is threatened by war, natural disaster, or economic collapse. He believes that is what the founders intended... He believes that if you look at American history, it's been the presidency that has been able to intervene when we've faced war or economic calamity or natural disaster. And Congress has dithered and the courts simply don't have the mechanisms to respond. He really believes this in his bones."
Dick Cheney vibes. 🙄

Much worse. I consider Cheney a rational strategist compared to Barr. He is a low key fanatical Dominionist setting up for the return of Authoritarian Jesus, methinks.
I don't know a whole lot about him but I wouldn't be sure, given who Trump has surrounded himself with
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 01, 2020, 01:55:05 AM
 :lulz:  :lulz:  :lulz:

Citing Election Delay Tweet, Influential Trump Ally Now Demands His Re-Impeachment (http://"https://www.npr.org/2020/07/31/897724197/citing-election-delay-tweet-influential-trump-ally-now-demands-his-re-impeachmen?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwAR0wtjRIQxWq-pdx-BkGcE_Y3UJ-yscj2HLW1X97Bp6wOadwT2aADBRwiGU&fbclid=IwAR0eWEyoqcy5EZ-YgO3vGzTn8fdcNEAzEKSNbZprPc0jROvCo00iAyMyPG0&fbclid=IwAR3xlXiownrzMswBBiQbHH5TO2R7bO24w25X_hqCL0VbKlIQqbt5DAK1k_o")

QuoteCalabresi declared himself "appalled" by the tweet, which he characterized as "seeking to postpone the November election."

"Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats' assertion that President Trump is a fascist," the conservative legal scholar wrote. "But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president's immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate."
:peedee:
:spittake:
INFINITE :popcorn:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 01, 2020, 01:58:20 AM
Also I am GENUINELY confused as to how he's differentiating absentee versus mail in ballots. I've been a registered absentee voter for years and how is mail in any fucking different??
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/maryannechisho2/status/1289600118967005184?s=21


Secret, unlawful indefinite dissident detention
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: picoli on August 01, 2020, 10:04:22 PM
The situation is so bad, can't believe it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 01, 2020, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: picoli on August 01, 2020, 10:04:22 PM
The situation is so bad, can't believe it.

I'm counting the seconds until this bot starts dumping advertisement links.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 01, 2020, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: picoli on August 01, 2020, 10:04:22 PM
The situation is so bad, can't believe it.

I'm counting the seconds until this bot starts dumping advertisement links.

I was thinking the same thing
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 01, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/maryannechisho2/status/1289600118967005184?s=21


Secret, unlawful indefinite dissident detention
So when are we just burning the whole thing down?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 01, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 01, 2020, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: picoli on August 01, 2020, 10:04:22 PM
The situation is so bad, can't believe it.

I'm counting the seconds until this bot starts dumping advertisement links.

I was thinking the same thing

Necro-replying to a post in Flim Flam from 11 years ago, feelsweird
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 01, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/maryannechisho2/status/1289600118967005184?s=21


Secret, unlawful indefinite dissident detention
So when are we just burning the whole thing down?

I turned off "civilian" mode some time ago so really any time is fine. Even if Biden gets elected I expect a police state to continue unabated. I'm still going go vote for him against Donnie tho. Presuming of course that I am still alive and free to do so.

Quote

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/07/19/wallace_fact_checks_trump_biden_has_said_nothing_about_defunding_the_police.html

"The White House never sent us evidence the Bernie-Biden platform calls for defunding or abolishing police—because there is none. It calls for increased funding for police departments--that meet certain standards. Biden has called for redirecting some police funding for related programs—like mental health counseling."

Quote

https://mazainside.com/joe-biden-condemning-anarchists-in-portland/

The statement, ostensibly issued as a knock on President Trump, ended up blowing back at Joe Biden as leftists, and even some key progressive leaders who should be backing Biden for president in November condemned Biden's statement.

Biden just issued a statement calling for the arrest of anarchists, simply for Being anarchists, which is very explicitly not illegal, wrote one progressive state candidate on Twitter.

It should also be noted that Biden and Trump have now joined together in openly calling for the political persecution of the same people.

A big old shit sandwich is the only thing on the menu for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 01, 2020, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 01, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/maryannechisho2/status/1289600118967005184?s=21


Secret, unlawful indefinite dissident detention
So when are we just burning the whole thing down?

I turned off "civilian" mode some time ago so really any time is fine. Even if Biden gets elected I expect a police state to continue unabated. I'm still going go vote for him against Donnie tho. Presuming of course that I am still alive and free to do so.
:horrormirth: I've been struggling with the feeling that I've been alarmist (even though logically know I haven't been) and this just effectively silenced that little voice. Time to really lean into those mutual aid networks!

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Quote

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/07/19/wallace_fact_checks_trump_biden_has_said_nothing_about_defunding_the_police.html

"The White House never sent us evidence the Bernie-Biden platform calls for defunding or abolishing police—because there is none. It calls for increased funding for police departments--that meet certain standards. Biden has called for redirecting some police funding for related programs—like mental health counseling."

Quote

https://mazainside.com/joe-biden-condemning-anarchists-in-portland/

The statement, ostensibly issued as a knock on President Trump, ended up blowing back at Joe Biden as leftists, and even some key progressive leaders who should be backing Biden for president in November condemned Biden's statement.

Biden just issued a statement calling for the arrest of anarchists, simply for Being anarchists, which is very explicitly not illegal, wrote one progressive state candidate on Twitter.

It should also be noted that Biden and Trump have now joined together in openly calling for the political persecution of the same people.

A big old shit sandwich is the only thing on the menu for the foreseeable future.
Yep, much of which Biden built the scaffolding for. 🙃 He is, after all, the PATRIOT act's granddaddy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on August 02, 2020, 01:50:43 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 01, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 01, 2020, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: picoli on August 01, 2020, 10:04:22 PM
The situation is so bad, can't believe it.

I'm counting the seconds until this bot starts dumping advertisement links.

I was thinking the same thing

Necro-replying to a post in Flim Flam from 11 years ago, feelsweird
:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 03, 2020, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 01, 2020, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Juana on August 01, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/maryannechisho2/status/1289600118967005184?s=21


Secret, unlawful indefinite dissident detention
So when are we just burning the whole thing down?

I turned off "civilian" mode some time ago so really any time is fine. Even if Biden gets elected I expect a police state to continue unabated. I'm still going go vote for him against Donnie tho. Presuming of course that I am still alive and free to do so.
:horrormirth: I've been struggling with the feeling that I've been alarmist (even though logically know I haven't been) and this just effectively silenced that little voice. Time to really lean into those mutual aid networks!

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on August 01, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Quote

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/07/19/wallace_fact_checks_trump_biden_has_said_nothing_about_defunding_the_police.html

"The White House never sent us evidence the Bernie-Biden platform calls for defunding or abolishing police—because there is none. It calls for increased funding for police departments--that meet certain standards. Biden has called for redirecting some police funding for related programs—like mental health counseling."

Quote

https://mazainside.com/joe-biden-condemning-anarchists-in-portland/

The statement, ostensibly issued as a knock on President Trump, ended up blowing back at Joe Biden as leftists, and even some key progressive leaders who should be backing Biden for president in November condemned Biden's statement.

Biden just issued a statement calling for the arrest of anarchists, simply for Being anarchists, which is very explicitly not illegal, wrote one progressive state candidate on Twitter.

It should also be noted that Biden and Trump have now joined together in openly calling for the political persecution of the same people.

A big old shit sandwich is the only thing on the menu for the foreseeable future.
Yep, much of which Biden built the scaffolding for. 🙃 He is, after all, the PATRIOT act's granddaddy.

You seem to have confused him with John Ashcroft.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 04, 2020, 10:29:42 AM
The latest (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53633315) from the wanna-be Mafia don in the White House:

QuoteDonald Trump says the government should get a cut from the sale of TikTok's US unit if an American firm buys it.

The US president said he made a demand for a "substantial portion" of the purchase price in a phone call at the weekend with Microsoft's boss.

He also warned he will ban the app, which is owned by China's ByteDance, on 15 September if there is no deal.

ByteDance is under pressure to sell its US business after Mr Trump threatened a crackdown on Chinese tech companies.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 04, 2020, 01:58:18 PM
Did the Microsoft rep laugh loudly or quietly?

I guess at this point it's try anything to distract from the 150k+ dead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 04, 2020, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 04, 2020, 01:58:18 PM
Did the Microsoft rep laugh loudly or quietly?

I guess at this point it's try anything to distract from the 150k+ dead.

Neither, most likely.  The longer I hang out where I am - and this isn't even in the same SPORT, let alone the same league as Microsoft - the more I become likely to simply smile and say "That's great.  No hard feelings.  Sue us."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 05, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
Man alive that interview with axios should be a campaign killer. I've not laughed that hard for a while. "we're lower than.... The world". Simple follow ups like "who says that?" and "what books?" with the dumbstruck gimp gazing into the distance should be the basis for every attack ad from Biden. I don't know who set this up but they must be quitting within the week.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2020, 03:18:21 PM
It should be spliced with the Wallace interview (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/19/18101383/trump-chris-wallace-fox-news-sunday-interview) from last week.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 05, 2020, 03:50:54 PM
the axios interview made my brain leak out of my ear a little bit

in the past, we used to celebrate these "emperor's new clothes" moments

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 06, 2020, 12:28:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 05, 2020, 03:50:54 PM
the axios interview made my brain leak out of my ear a little bit

in the past, we used to celebrate these "emperor's new clothes" moments



Right? Now the emperor just runs about waving his dick in people's faces...sometimes he trips and finds himself at Walter Reed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 06, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
Man alive that interview with axios should be a campaign killer. I've not laughed that hard for a while. "we're lower than.... The world". Simple follow ups like "who says that?" and "what books?" with the dumbstruck gimp gazing into the distance should be the basis for every attack ad from Biden. I don't know who set this up but they must be quitting within the week.

Should be.  You have to remember that we have 63,000,000 low grade moron Nazi wannabes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 06, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
Swan's expressions during that interview need to be given a cabinet position


also, the onion's take:  :lulz:
https://www.theonion.com/d-c-journalists-in-awe-of-australian-reporter-able-to-1844620773
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 06, 2020, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 06, 2020, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 05, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
Man alive that interview with axios should be a campaign killer. I've not laughed that hard for a while. "we're lower than.... The world". Simple follow ups like "who says that?" and "what books?" with the dumbstruck gimp gazing into the distance should be the basis for every attack ad from Biden. I don't know who set this up but they must be quitting within the week.

Should be.  You have to remember that we have 63,000,000 low grade moron Nazi wannabes.

Certainly. In any other era, any of his "interviews" would kill your chances Stone dead. Such is the joy and sadness of the horrible times that it does not.

Saw a graph with a 75% approval rating for the handling of the virus. 75% of republicans, obviously. When your fuck ups eclispe the toll of multiple wars, combined, and you still poll like that it really does say something about a population.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 07, 2020, 01:03:40 AM
It saddens embarrasses me that the bar is Barbara Walters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwVCuPJrMw). No offense to her, ofc, but wtf.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
This is all kinds of awesome.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=12354666&fbclid=IwAR0iJj65EpDV3GFbaOigWHdJqZiCI8YATfJUDMGISrC3cO10v3nIBpbLKt8

QuoteCovid 19 coronavirus: US Government issues New Zealand travel warning due to its '23 active cases'

1.  You can't travel to New Zealand as a regular traveler.  Their borders are closed.

2.  The "23 cases" are asylum-seekers who were diagnosed in a quarantine facility and are now under "managed quarantine" having never been exposed to the public.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2020, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
This is all kinds of awesome.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=12354666&fbclid=IwAR0iJj65EpDV3GFbaOigWHdJqZiCI8YATfJUDMGISrC3cO10v3nIBpbLKt8

QuoteCovid 19 coronavirus: US Government issues New Zealand travel warning due to its '23 active cases'

1.  You can't travel to New Zealand as a regular traveler.  Their borders are closed.

2.  The "23 cases" are asylum-seekers who were diagnosed in a quarantine facility and are now under "managed quarantine" having never been exposed to the public.

Strikes me as a face saving exercise. Like if an american airliner got with 100 miles of NZ airspace, I'm guessing they'd (quite rightly) shoot the fucking thing out the sky. At least this way it looks like a US decision, rather than, yanno, the rest of the world laughing at people who vote for retards to run their country.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 10, 2020, 03:15:45 AM
RonPaulItsHappening.gif (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/09/politics/mount-rushmore-trump-south-dakota/index.html)

QuoteWhite House aides reached out to South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem last year about the process of adding additional presidents to Mount Rushmore, the New York Times reported.

According to a person familiar who spoke with the Times, Noem then greeted Trump when he arrived in the state for his July Fourth celebrations at the monument with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included his face.

Noem has noted before Trump's "dream" to have his face on Mount Rushmore, the Coolidge-era sculpture that features the 60-foot-tall faces of Presidents George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt.

QuoteA White House official noted to the New York Times that Mount Rushmore is a federal, not a state monument.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on August 10, 2020, 06:24:34 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

Watch them fuck it all up beyond repair and then finally give the land back, but then try to keep the hundreds of billions held in trust from a "legal settlement" that the original owners refuse to accept because they want their sacred land we marred grotesquely back and won't be bought. We owe them the land AND the money as "back rent" of a sort I think.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

We need a monument to American avarice and stupidity. This would be perfect.

Of course, If all the faces fell off, they'd blame it on A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists, and their base would believe it 100%.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on August 10, 2020, 08:53:38 PM
Trump would more at home on Stone Mountain.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

https://apnews.com/6119b50079aaf30ba54b8e40bd36033b?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR3P4LIK6VLcF8VaDkmsKEP403xe6WGomIbUBRJtTDptDmOQGaL4dilhySY
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 20, 2020, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

https://apnews.com/6119b50079aaf30ba54b8e40bd36033b?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR3P4LIK6VLcF8VaDkmsKEP403xe6WGomIbUBRJtTDptDmOQGaL4dilhySY
:)

Quote
Trump recently criticized that section of wall after it showed signs of erosion, saying it was "only done to make me look bad," even though it was built by his supporters.
:lulz:

Is it too much to hope that Trump throws Bannon under the bus?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on August 20, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

https://apnews.com/6119b50079aaf30ba54b8e40bd36033b?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR3P4LIK6VLcF8VaDkmsKEP403xe6WGomIbUBRJtTDptDmOQGaL4dilhySY

Thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 04:37:15 PM
This calls for some unemployed day drinking!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2020, 06:02:42 PM
There's MORE!

https://twitter.com/zacalf/status/1296458383210557443?s=21

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 20, 2020, 06:38:31 PM
I skimmed the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1306611/download

Pretty juicy stuff.  The counts are "conspiracy to commit wire fraud" and  "conspiracy to commit money laundering".

In addition to the boat, there are about a dozen bank accounts subject to forfeiture, and if some of the forfeitable assets are inaccessible, the government can seize the defendants other property.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 20, 2020, 06:50:10 PM
As an aside, I think "Warfighter" is a lame name for a boat, especially a leisure craft.

If I had a boat, I'd give it a name like "I Can't Believe It's Not Chicken" or maybe "Satan's Bunghole".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2020, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 20, 2020, 06:50:10 PM
As an aside, I think "Warfighter" is a lame name for a boat, especially a leisure craft.

If I had a boat, I'd give it a name like "I Can't Believe It's Not Chicken" or maybe "Satan's Bunghole".

But the best part is one of the indicted people arranged that stupid "boat parade" (ie, drunken regatta) in Florida last weekend.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2020, 07:22:32 PM
https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/08/18/in-rule-change-postal-service-forbids-employees-from-signing-absentee-ballots-as-witnesses/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 20, 2020, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 20, 2020, 07:22:32 PM
https://www.adn.com/politics/2020/08/18/in-rule-change-postal-service-forbids-employees-from-signing-absentee-ballots-as-witnesses/

I'm assuming the argument for this was something along the lines of:

"The Postal employees are going to be sooo overrun with work because of the mail-in voting - We'll need to take some other responsibilities off their hands."

Meanwhile, they're removing the sorting machines that take on some of the tedious manual work.

Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 20, 2020, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!

https://apnews.com/6119b50079aaf30ba54b8e40bd36033b?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR3P4LIK6VLcF8VaDkmsKEP403xe6WGomIbUBRJtTDptDmOQGaL4dilhySY
:)

Quote
Trump recently criticized that section of wall after it showed signs of erosion, saying it was "only done to make me look bad," even though it was built by his supporters.
:lulz:

Is it too much to hope that Trump throws Bannon under the bus?

Well, since the Bannon Bro Brigade™ is suspected to still be supporting Trump's re-election efforts via organizations I'm sure he's still got ties to (Breitbart et al), I ask the following:

Do we think Trump will?:

a.) Throw him under the bus
b.) Pardon him after the November Votes are submitted
c.) Both

People like Bannon aren't that affected by bad PR, because the people they do deals with are shady as fuck and out of open view in the first place. Throwing Bannon under the bus for this would be like throwing a rapist under the bus for robbery. And Trump's supporters are so dedicated that, on a Breitbart News article, I saw one say "I don't condone what Steve Bannon did, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLINTON FOUNDATION??!!1".

Then again, even though Bannon is supporting Trump and others via Podcasts like War Room, I don't believe Bannon is supporting Trump because he likes Trump. I think he believes Trump to be an adept carrier of his own Accelerationist Plague. I think Bannon wants to create an Ethno-State, and to do that, he needs to accelerate the racial tension that's currently building before the Black Communities can obtain the ability to defend themselves and trigger a violent uprising that's large enough to make Whitey afraid, but small enough to let Trump smash it back down. So it's possible they don't actually still like each other, but merely have a symbiotic relationship. I guess I could see him throwing Bannon under the bus and NOT pardoning him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 20, 2020, 11:13:58 PM
Can't pardon state crimes. https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/todd-kaminsky/ny-ends-double-jeopardy-loophole-presidential-pardons

If trump pardons, mail fraud can still be charged by the state...along with a prison sentence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 20, 2020, 11:18:13 PM
And Trump has already began distancing himself: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/08/20/trump-steve-bannon-indicted-border-wall-fundraising-vpx.cnn

Might be worth noting that when stone and manafort got indicted he was sympathetic (feigned) to their predicaments. He's just flat out denying responsibility this time around. But we'll see?

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 20, 2020, 11:25:54 PM
I seem to recall him initially distancing himself from both of them as well. When the arrests are made, it's all "I don't know them, they were only a small portion of my campaign, hangers-on really, I never liked them". When the trial's about to finish, it's "oh, this is very sad, they are being treated very unfairly by the courts".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 20, 2020, 11:31:16 PM
The latter, incidentally, I would consider intimidation of the courts. I know America doesn't really have laws any more, just like the UK doesn't, but the President remarking on the appropriateness or fairness of a trial would count as intimidation and interference in my book and as a judge I would not stand for it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 20, 2020, 11:34:03 PM
Quote from: Bu🤠ns on August 20, 2020, 11:13:58 PM
Can't pardon state crimes. https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/todd-kaminsky/ny-ends-double-jeopardy-loophole-presidential-pardons

If trump pardons, mail fraud can still be charged by the state...along with a prison sentence.

Ahhh, touche. Thank you for the clarification.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 20, 2020, 11:52:56 PM
I wonder if I can get a print of this courtroom sketch. My walls are bare, and that would look just fabulous in my living room.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-bannon/steve-bannon-key-to-trumps-rise-pleads-not-guilty-to-border-wall-fraud-charges-idUSKBN25G1J4
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 21, 2020, 01:44:24 PM
one day I will eat pancakes on that man's grave
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 21, 2020, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 20, 2020, 11:25:54 PM
I seem to recall him initially distancing himself from both of them as well. When the arrests are made, it's all "I don't know them, they were only a small portion of my campaign, hangers-on really, I never liked them". When the trial's about to finish, it's "oh, this is very sad, they are being treated very unfairly by the courts".

This is probably more accurate. Maybe it was Cohen that i was thinking of at first. But yeah it's "i don't know anything about their activities but they're treated unfairly"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 22, 2020, 03:08:21 PM
The truth is finally out (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/opinion/trump-russia-2016-report.html), and no-one cares:

QuoteA bipartisan report released Tuesday by the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee cuts through the chaff. The simplicity of the scheme has always been staring us in the face: Donald Trump's 2016 campaign sought and maintained close contacts with Russian government officials who were helping him get elected. The Trump campaign accepted their offers of help. The campaign secretly provided Russian officials with key polling data. The campaign coordinated the timing of the release of stolen information to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 23, 2020, 03:11:07 AM
I think it would take an indictment to get anybody's attention at this point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 24, 2020, 07:42:08 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53885239

Conway gone. I really never expected her to last this long. She's probably the only 2016 face still hanging around.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bu🤠ns on August 24, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
Yeah apparently her kid can't handle it anymore...melting down on TikTok.

Trump's Koch Brothers handler is out...so...maybe we'll be in for a pleasant surprise at the RNC. They can't even PROP trump up anymore he's shat the bed so bad.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 24, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
GOP convention starts today.  :lulz:

https://apnews.com/f54a020371addfa13b24027dec03007c
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on August 24, 2020, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: Bu🤠ns on August 24, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
Yeah apparently her kid can't handle it anymore...melting down on TikTok.

Trump's Koch Brothers handler is out...so...maybe we'll be in for a pleasant surprise at the RNC. They can't even PROP trump up anymore he's shat the bed so bad.

I've asked a dozen people to explain tiktok to me and I still don't get it. I'm assuming that's a sign of old age and I should probably buy shares in it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 24, 2020, 09:44:22 PM
It's basically Vine, but with ghosts and stuff. And China spying on us, because...well, that's just what they do. And this is different from Facebook because shut up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Juana on August 24, 2020, 10:52:12 PM
What Cain said. Tiktok is Vine with longer videos and more dancing and Chinese malware. That girl roasted her mom, tho. Like roasted her and salted the ground from which she sprang.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 25, 2020, 01:05:27 PM
You hear about TikTok being cancelled?

yeah, now, if you want to see a 16 year old girl dance, you gotta get on a plane with Bill Clinton


*dives for cover*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 25, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 25, 2020, 01:05:27 PM
You hear about TikTok being cancelled?

yeah, now, if you want to see a 16 year old girl dance, you gotta get on a plane with Bill Clinton


*dives for cover*

Or go to the White House in a couple of months  :whack:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2020, 05:21:20 PM
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/was-donald-trump-jr-coked-out-of-his-mind-during-rnc-speech/?fbclid=IwAR1ZNVOcI-TcKAnkeLnj0YmYvLl5X3cl47PSW5WvCXZedXghBMErlhn35WU
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 25, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
I mean, it seems to be a theme with the speakers so far.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2020, 09:27:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
I mean, it seems to be a theme with the speakers so far.

Yeah, wossname, Guiylford or whatever, was just a tad carried away.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 25, 2020, 10:12:44 PM
Not to mention the "dying of bone cancer to avoid affordable care to own the libs" lady.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on August 25, 2020, 10:59:10 PM

Although I get most of my news from memes, it was truly funny that 6 out of 12 speakers had the last name Trump. Nepotism where?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on August 25, 2020, 11:26:33 PM
Everything I hear about this makes it sound more and more like the product of a truly diseased mind. Some shit that I wish I had been on the planning for.

"Don Jr. on coke? Why the fuck would you not give him the good meth instead?! You're the government, load him up on Ritalin and rancid Crunchwrap Supremes. His ass will honk like a goose and he'll start pointing at imaginary spies, it'll be great."

"Yeah bone cancer lady is good but we should really contact the dude who shot his dick off instead: that's a hell of a lot of dedication. We can tie it into the transphobic messaging, too, I'm not sure how but just give it to the evangelicals and they'll tell you what to do."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 26, 2020, 09:34:54 PM
Who had money on QAnon's website being hosted on the same server as 8Chan, which was known for facilitating the trafficking of child porn?

Site is owned by Jim Watkins, the 8Chan Site owner.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on August 26, 2020, 10:54:01 PM
Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on August 26, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
I don't know anything about them, but just giving a speech platform to anyone, including those with despicable ideas makes a free speech absolutist, but I don't think I would say immoral actor.
Do they host only rotten sites?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 26, 2020, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2020, 10:54:01 PM
Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716ZaJAqHuL.png)

Well, if the owner and Q are the same person.




Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.

Ah, good catch. The only service that provided a decent Reverse DNS on the IP was that robtex.com website, and it happened to also give a predicted location of Australia. For whatever reason, I didn't really question it.

The fact that the Reverse DNS on that site only returned the 3 sites Jim Watkins is responsible for makes me think that that IP is dedicated based on the customer. Now, I don't know for certain what DNS Servers they were using for that reverse lookup, but most of the public ones don't seem to have PTR entries for this address, so we could be looking at VERY limited results. Is it conclusive/proven? No, of course not.

Does it seem likely that Jim used the same anti-DDOS Provider to provide the public facing IP for all 3 of these websites like a dumbass? Big time.

IMO, at least.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 26, 2020, 11:54:19 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on August 26, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
I don't know anything about them, but just giving a speech platform to anyone, including those with despicable ideas makes a free speech absolutist, but I don't think I would say immoral actor.
Do they host only rotten sites?

This lists the sites they currently host: https://ipinfo.io/AS398088/203.28.246.0/24

All seem shitty at first glance. Some of the Hostnames are bunk though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 27, 2020, 12:30:39 AM
Quote from: PoFP on August 26, 2020, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2020, 10:54:01 PM
Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716ZaJAqHuL.png)

Well, if the owner and Q are the same person.




Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.

Ah, good catch. The only service that provided a decent Reverse DNS on the IP was that robtex.com website, and it happened to also give a predicted location of Australia. For whatever reason, I didn't really question it.

The fact that the Reverse DNS on that site only returned the 3 sites Jim Watkins is responsible for makes me think that that IP is dedicated based on the customer. Now, I don't know for certain what DNS Servers they were using for that reverse lookup, but most of the public ones don't seem to have PTR entries for this address, so we could be looking at VERY limited results. Is it conclusive/proven? No, of course not.

Does it seem likely that Jim used the same anti-DDOS Provider to provide the public facing IP for all 3 of these websites like a dumbass? Big time.

IMO, at least.

Am I aware of the absurd levels of irony involved in jumping to distant conclusions about the origins of a Conspiracy Theory Propagation Tank? Absolutely not. I refuse to acknowledge it.  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 27, 2020, 12:43:11 AM
Actually, it looks like I misread something. There are a ton of domains associated with just the QAnon IP, but all of them seem to be Right-Wing News related. I'll write a little script to put together some reports using this ipinfo.io API.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on August 27, 2020, 08:56:06 PM
Ugh, I don't really have time to do the level of investigation I want to do right now, but here's all the Hosts associated with the qmap.pub IP Address (And therefore, Vanwatech anti-DDOS Service):

203.28.246.1:
qmap.pub
8kun.top
vanwanet.com
sandiamesa.com
anonvideos.com
vanwatech.com
aeldra.to
tora3.com
lolis.xyz
hiddenmiracle.com
united2.club
ipfsbrowser.com
citizenmedia.news
abcu.co
permanentupload.com
qanonbin.com
united2.to
8stealth.com
highenergy.host
mostdope.ch
cryinchuckschumer.com
qarmy.net
serverpro.io
orcinustech.com
play-warena.com
christchannel.xyz
keepearthgreat.com
orcahub.com
pleroma.us
vanwahost.com
united2.global
elyria.to
qagg.news
centipedecentral.win
jamescorney.com
8kun.net
faldax.com
nicklimsucks.com
fuckgab.com
xn--2-p9twesc.net
vanwavpn.com
wewallstreet.org
redchannit.net
traboone.com
8chan.se
qanon.wiki
zeroalbum.com
8chan.moe
orangemenbad.club
abcu8.co

And here's the Domains associated with the Daily Stormer IP from the same Vanwatech provider:

203.28.246.123:

dailystormer.su
dailystormer.name
rb2.to
8keiw.tk
wponedge.com
voosc.tk
ecqgc.tk
fsjyc.tk
ivnp2.tk
69dim.tk
mealmeets.com
cofed.com
lolis.xyz
ipleak.dev
fuxvz.tk
sobgv.tk
5qoao.tk
ndpsz.tk
cj3zz.tk
qagg.news
wmja5.tk
hhlsz.tk
ejbnf.tk
70043.tk
rw1og.tk
orca.tech
jkwji.tk
dfchz.tk
ehcnz.tk
ik8nw.tk
kbcke.tk
hollweck.it
sos-rasisme.com
rew-writing.com
3mesz.tk
ypdb7.tk
mkzsi.tk
awakening.is
gtnsm.tk
canalesportivolive.ml
bananasports.xyz
8chan.nu
bnhke.tk
glrta.tk
zxq6m.tk
3l5ly.tk
openinternetaccess.com
v7ygd.tk
1l94s.tk
ak4pb.tk
escpn.tk
dailystormer.com
mm1tw.tk
vanwapay.com
websites.org
faldax.com
gpex7.tk
gsel3.tk
bhdbc.tk
xenoid.de
80nbi.tk
debbad.de
gddby.tk
619mq.tk
d8j8x.tk

(From my experience, randomized hostnames like that are either hosting illegal material, or are dummy/throwaways. I'm not in a position to test any right now as I'm on my company VPN. Also, the company claims to be the first Deep Web CDN Provider, so that increases the likelihood that those sites are going to be some level of unsettling.)


203.28.246.100:

8ch.net
vanitycrypto.com
apionly.com
vanwacrypto.com
gnosticwarfare.com
vanwavpn.com
preserveprivacy.com



203.28.246.150:

vanwanet.com
vanwatech.com
gdprtalk.com
nickthelim.com
permpaste.com
athenalayer.com


That concludes the list of all Vanwatech CDNs in their dedicated company IP range, and obviously some of them are duplicated across each of the IPs. But if someone wants to confirm shady af behavior, investigate connections to the other sites or Jim Watkins, etc. while I'm finishing up some work, have at it. Also, if we have a problem with the Domains of potentially disturbing sites being listed in a post here, I won't be offended if you wanna nuke the post and have me investigate separately. Just wanted to make sure the details were available to anyone else who might be interested in confirming Q's ID/connections.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on August 29, 2020, 05:00:59 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

We need a monument to American avarice and stupidity. This would be perfect.

Of course, If all the faces fell off, they'd blame it on A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists, and their base would believe it 100%.

If some antifa group didn't claim credit it would be a huge missed opportunity.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 29, 2020, 05:38:23 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 29, 2020, 05:00:59 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

We need a monument to American avarice and stupidity. This would be perfect.

Of course, If all the faces fell off, they'd blame it on A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists, and their base would believe it 100%.

If some antifa group didn't claim credit it would be a huge missed opportunity.

A missed opportunity to be a patsy for some Nazi regime's incompetence?

Hard pass.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 29, 2020, 01:44:41 PM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists

I like how setting "antifa" like its an acronym makes it feel like some 80s TV action squad.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on August 29, 2020, 01:59:50 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 29, 2020, 01:44:41 PM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists

I like how setting "antifa" like its an acronym makes it feel like some 80s TV action squad.

Right? That's where the 'A' in "A-Team" comes from!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on August 30, 2020, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2020, 05:21:20 PM
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/was-donald-trump-jr-coked-out-of-his-mind-during-rnc-speech/?fbclid=IwAR1ZNVOcI-TcKAnkeLnj0YmYvLl5X3cl47PSW5WvCXZedXghBMErlhn35WU

It's not cocaine they were high on.  It was their enthusiasm for Fascism.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on September 03, 2020, 05:01:31 AM
I've been digging into the QAnon/Vanwatech/8Chan stuff for a few days now. I'm putting together a thorough and complete report with technical and layman analyses and sending it to some News Outlets anonymously when I'm done. I've got some connections to DemocracyNow I'm going to take advantage of as well.

What I've found so far is pretty unsettling, but there's still a lot more to unpack.

Initial findings:

- 8Chan is running a meme production line, and most of the common influential Right-Wing memes you see on Social Media are definitely sourced directly from QAnon.

- QAnon has new recruits taking part in operations called "Boatfagging" and "Planefagging", which is a process of using American (And occasionally international) plane and boat tracking systems online to look for "Suspicious" Naval/AirForce activity. They make no indication as to what the recruits are to be looking for, although they've occasionally hinted at terrorist activity, and ask that new recruits involve senior members when they find something odd. Considering this has literally no effect on any of their main goals, I can only surmise this exercise has one or more of the following purposes:

    - Croud-sourced, constant analysis of US Government and Public travel supervised by a foreign power like Russia (Saves them time and money since they don't have to hire a KGB/Intelligence FSB/Intelligence (Lol) employee to do the grunt work)

    - Or it's merely an induction technique that makes recruits feel like they're on "Super t0p s3cr3t official business" until they get bored and move onto memeing.

- VanwaTech provides CDN services to sites that breed Hyper-Fascist manifestos and other propaganda/discussion boards.

- VanwaTech-serviced sites often link directly or indirectly to illegal porn, boards that discuss rape/murder fantasies, and borderline/technically legal loli shit.

- VanwaTech provides CDN services to sites that are directly linked to strictly Russian Message Boards that openly push Racist, Fascist Accelerationism.

QAnon has generally avoided putting all its hosting "eggs" in one basket. It uses VanwaTech for its nerve center (8Kun/8Chan), but uses DreamHost and other service providers as well for QAnon related/tied web apps, like custom Message Board search engines, file hosting, etc.

I've seen Message Board convos telling recruits to impersonate Lefties, learn their language, and infiltrate their groups so that they can start infighting. I've seen them explicitly tell recruits to push Third Parties and ideas that are anti-Trump AND anti-Biden to achieve this goal. I've seen instructional threads on how to bypass bans, and basically stay present on Social Media and detect Shadow Bans, etc.

Ultimately, this all feels like both, crowd-sourced Russian Intelligence, and Right-Wing Accelerationist melting pots.

More to come.

(Also, those randomized domains on the Daily Stormer IP are just Daily Stormer Article Shortened Links)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on September 03, 2020, 05:22:56 AM
Oh, and I also found instances where Q was asked by QAnon members to get Trump to send encoded messages/signals in Tweets. I will be going through Trump's Tweets tomorrow to confirm these messages were reverberated AFTER these requests.

If we can connect Russia to QAnon, something like this can connect QAnon to Trump, and therefore Russia to Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 03, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
The Senate report into 2016 Russian interference already establishes Trump's Russia links beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just nobody paid attention to it.

Besides, what Qanon considers Trump "acknowledging" them and what actually counts as Trump acknowledging them are two very different things. Qanon nerds are convinced Trump typos and weird formatting are evidence of him communicating in code, and not being a senile, rage-filled old man with a poor grasp of the Queen's English.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on September 03, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
The Senate report into 2016 Russian interference already establishes Trump's Russia links beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just nobody paid attention to it.

Besides, what Qanon considers Trump "acknowledging" them and what actually counts as Trump acknowledging them are two very different things. Qanon nerds are convinced Trump typos and weird formatting are evidence of him communicating in code, and not being a senile, rage-filled old man with a poor grasp of the Queen's English.

But Senate Reports aren't sexy. In a US being ripped apart by complete distrust in the Establishment(s), official documents from one Establishment about how the other Establishment shouldn't be trusted probably seem obligatory and forced. To get people to pay attention, we gotta make it seem like neither Establishment had a hand in the findings.

I mean, it's either we re-release the Senate Report in Comic Sans, and with every Committee Member's name replaced with Big Foot or "Alien Jeff", or you let this armchair enthusiast do the work an entire team of people has already done but with less precision and available resources!  :argh!:

And of course. Simply having the phrase in the the Tweet wouldn't count.

Although, there are a few phrases that were suggested that I'd be very surprised to see worked into a Trump Tweet  :lol:

I swear to God, someone requested "reach around". I'm going off the assumption that that one was trolling, but if I find that in a Trump Tweet, I'm flagging that shit  :lol:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: minuspace on September 03, 2020, 05:46:16 PM
Quote from: PoFP on September 03, 2020, 01:35:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
The Senate report into 2016 Russian interference already establishes Trump's Russia links beyond a shadow of a doubt. Just nobody paid attention to it.

Besides, what Qanon considers Trump "acknowledging" them and what actually counts as Trump acknowledging them are two very different things. Qanon nerds are convinced Trump typos and weird formatting are evidence of him communicating in code, and not being a senile, rage-filled old man with a poor grasp of the Queen's English.

[...]

I swear to God, someone requested "reach around". I'm going off the assumption that that one was trolling, but if I find that in a Trump Tweet, I'm flagging that shit  :lol:


:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 03, 2020, 10:53:09 PM
Qanon posted a list copied from the Internet Research Agency, the Russian troll farm

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1301543928936755202?s=21

As pointed out by the author, copying a Russian intel operation's output might be a good way to throw people off the scent.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on September 04, 2020, 02:48:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 03, 2020, 10:53:09 PM
Qanon posted a list copied from the Internet Research Agency, the Russian troll farm

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1301543928936755202?s=21

As pointed out by the author, copying a Russian intel operation's output might be a good way to throw people off the scent.

So it seems like Russia is involved with QAnon. Even if they aren't behind the movement and its base, they are likely directly involved in supporting it and providing memes/ammunition. However, it sounds like Q Leadership is trying to take advantage of that involvement, and the Senate Report, and all the things pointing at Russia to shift the blame and focus in their direction only?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 04, 2020, 03:01:20 AM
Fuck it.

Cain, 2020. Write in.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 04, 2020, 04:19:50 AM
Quote from: LMNO on September 04, 2020, 03:01:20 AM
Fuck it.

Cain, 2020. Write in.

Not until I see a notarized, long form certificate of live birth proving thay he's not a US citizen.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2020, 04:30:10 AM
In the beginning, there was Cain, and he said "Let there be rational thought."

And then Cain said "Goddammit.  What part of that was hard to understand?"
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on September 04, 2020, 05:07:10 AM
TWJ you're just giving me flashbacks to the requests for the long form of EoC's sombrero, I'm not happy about this because we STILL NEVER GOT THE SECOND PART OF THE JOKE
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2020, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: altered on September 04, 2020, 05:07:10 AM
TWJ you're just giving me flashbacks to the requests for the long form of EoC's sombrero, I'm not happy about this because we STILL NEVER GOT THE SECOND PART OF THE JOKE

I warned you guys.  I did.  I shouted it out loud, and you still voted for the fake Mexico.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 04, 2020, 05:31:25 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-north-carolina-voting-1.5710497

Vote early, vote often.

But just to test the system.  It's not actually fraud if you don't get away with it, right?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 14, 2020, 04:18:56 PM
LAW AND ORDER!

https://apnews.com/5d306f8176972692ce700b569b01cd73

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 28, 2020, 12:14:26 AM
It seems the New York Times got its hands on Trump's income tax returns.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/27/new-york-times-publishes-donald-trumps-tax-returns-election

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 28, 2020, 02:58:59 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 28, 2020, 12:14:26 AM
It seems the New York Times got its hands on Trump's income tax returns.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/27/new-york-times-publishes-donald-trumps-tax-returns-election

Yeah, it's a fuckin' festival.   :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 28, 2020, 09:22:52 AM
So the taxes show he was either committing fraud to investors while making a huge loss. Or committing fraud on his tax exemptions while making a profit.
Either way, anywhere else this should destroy his support, but the Kleptocracy worships a crook, wouldn't be surprised if his support goes up over this
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on September 28, 2020, 11:44:07 AM

FAKE NEWS! Nobody pays more taxes than him, in fact, hes the best at paying taxes and invented taxes, and is the leading world expert of the taxes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 28, 2020, 12:22:59 PM
Biden is gonna hammer him over the fact a guy on minimum wage is paying more taxes than him, I hope.

Also employing your own executives as consultants and using that expense as a tax write-off is, to my knowledge, hella illegal. That the executive in question is your own daughter is just the cherry on top of the cake.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 28, 2020, 12:42:44 PM
Hillary tried to go after Trump and taxes.  He said "that makes me smart," and people believed him.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 28, 2020, 01:04:31 PM
Yeah, but now there's actual evidence to push back with, which makes a significant difference. It can be framed as not "I'm a smart guy screwing the system" as "I'm a crook who keeps boasting about my billions and verifiably pays less tax than you, some slob breaking your back for 50 hours a week at a job you hate".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on September 28, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
Yeah his image of the self made business man who tells it like it is*, is now just The Mooch With The Mouth





*I have seen "Tells it like it is used as  defense for him several times in regards to the media, I hate it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 28, 2020, 03:32:41 PM
Yes, he can't say "good morning" without lying twice, but he's just a straight-talking no-nonsense businessman.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 28, 2020, 03:51:49 PM
The Road to Fascism is Lined With People Telling You To Stop Over-reacting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 28, 2020, 03:52:16 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 28, 2020, 12:42:44 PM
Hillary tried to go after Trump and taxes.  He said "that makes me smart," and people believed him.

Biden isn't Hillary.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2020, 12:50:25 AM
I am up and preparing to watch the debate tonight. I have 2 bottles of whiskey and a superfast internet connection. Lets do this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 30, 2020, 02:45:15 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 30, 2020, 12:50:25 AM
I am up and preparing to watch the debate tonight. I have 2 bottles of whiskey and a superfast internet connection. Lets do this.

:apple:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2020, 03:32:45 AM
Did I hear this right?

QuoteChris Wallace: "Are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down..."

Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by! But I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left."
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2020, 03:42:49 AM
That's what he said. He also encouraged his supporters to go intimidate people at the polling stations and refused to say he would wait as long as it took for all votes to be counted before declaring he had won the election.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2020, 03:44:45 AM
Yep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWiH-oiUW_s

He said "gimmie a name" and Biden said "Proud Boys", and then he said that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2020, 03:46:54 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 30, 2020, 03:42:49 AM
That's what he said. He also encouraged his supporters to go intimidate people at the polling stations and refused to say he would wait as long as it took for all votes to be counted before declaring he had won the election.



Right? Poll watchers, wtf does that even mean? Appoint yourself an official and go interrogate people?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2020, 03:51:28 AM
Yes. That's exactly what it means. And throw out anyone who looks "suspicious" to your paranoid, fevered mind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on September 30, 2020, 04:08:26 AM
I'm voting on the first day of early voting, but that almost makes me want to go on election day just cuz I wish a motherfucker would.

Maybe I'll get lucky and a motherfucker will, anyway.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 30, 2020, 06:28:59 AM
Yes. Stand by and stand back. Give me time. I don't need a whole lot.

Will watch debate tomorrow, but truly my intent presumes mucho apparent disorder. Smoke, shadows blah blah blah

Sang my life out karaoke style as a birthday gift to myself. I have decided two things. 1 study virology to phd. Thesis sarscov2. 2 if I get covid and live every bit of it will be a clue to me. Then my blood will be full of antibodies. If it cripples me ok. If it represents or reinfects ok. All of it data. I won't seek it, but I will not stop until done.

On topic: Trump is over. Just not quite aware of it yet.

Gnite
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
that was a pointless debate.

nobody learned anything, each media outlet has already constructed its own version of what happened, and I sincerely doubt anyone's minds were changed.

But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.


Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 30, 2020, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
that was a pointless debate.

nobody learned anything, each media outlet has already constructed its own version of what happened, and I sincerely doubt anyone's minds were changed.

But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

I keep telling folks my theory that, sadly, the age of reason is closing to a new Mythic era wherein the best, most engaging BS is the dominant motivator. This does NOT mean there is no truth, merely that being able to know it at a glance can be tricky. Also you may never know if you saw a paranormal event or high stage magic larp stunts for an exceptionally fun and advanced, entertaining dual arg card game as a violence outlet/proxy or some shit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on September 30, 2020, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a debate changed my mind about a candidate, outside of one or two primaries.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 04:22:03 PM
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 30, 2020, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a debate changed my mind about a candidate, outside of one or two primaries.

sure - I've never been undecided by the time a debate happens
but I do remember many debates where there was a consensus about who won or lost

now, the construction of reality is more explicit - each outlet reports their preferred interpretation


Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 04:22:03 PM
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters


like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"


I just thinking back to Jon Stewart on Crossfire, when he talked about how the presidental election is a process, and it's not about selecting the best president, its about selecting the guy who is best at that process.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 04:46:49 PM

Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 04:22:03 PM
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters
Well, I'm not claiming that.  Leaving the audio off would have been less hard on my nerves, and if I treat the whole debacle as a character study, watching them without the distraction of the background noise would have given me a different perspective.  How the candidates felt the debate was proceeding might have been more interesting than what they were actually saying.

The images I recall most clearly are:

Biden addressing the camera directly.
Biden looking down and laughing.
Trump looking sideways, with a belligerent and idiotic expression on his face (he makes it very easy for news publishers to select unflattering pictures).

Is any of that important to the American public?  I dunno.  I find it interesting, though.

Quote
like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
I was slightly surprised at Trump's apparent inability to stay on topic, or adhere to anything resembling normal debating etiquette.  I guess he's always been like that, but I didn't know he'd gotten that much worse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on September 30, 2020, 05:49:44 PM
Yeah, the body language was interesting. Biden clearly decided early on that debating Trump was a fool's errand, and instead decided to talk with the audience directly.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 01, 2020, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 04:22:03 PM
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters

like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"
[...]

It really matters a lot, but not in a direct face value sense, rather in the "what is this guy's communication strategy" sense.

Trump having no composure and acting like the psychotic wanna-be-alpha animal that he is, shows exactly how he acts all the time in practically every setting. At least Biden has some ammount of self-awareness when there isnt some female to sniff below the radius of social distancing measures.

Having said that, the goalposts of the debate mean nothing, what trascends is their respective aesthetics and emotional message, which brings us back to the original point, in which watching the debate without audio might be more informative than hearing it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 01, 2020, 03:28:39 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on October 01, 2020, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 30, 2020, 04:22:03 PM
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters

like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"
[...]

It really matters a lot, but not in a direct face value sense, rather in the "what is this guy's communication strategy" sense.

Trump having no composure and acting like the psychotic wanna-be-alpha animal that he is, shows exactly how he acts all the time in practically every setting. At least Biden has some ammount of self-awareness when there isnt some female to sniff below the radius of social distancing measures.

Having said that, the goalposts of the debate mean nothing, what trascends is their respective aesthetics and emotional message, which brings us back to the original point, in which watching the debate without audio might be more informative than hearing it.

The SCREENCAP value alone could be astronomical. I might just do this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 01, 2020, 06:07:02 AM

Update: I watched an hour of the debate till i couldnt bear it anymore, and i still stand by my point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 03:36:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 30, 2020, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a debate changed my mind about a candidate, outside of one or two primaries.

I can.  Dole v Clinton.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 08:54:27 PM
HAW HAW

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/24/matt-gaetz-accuses-gops-kelly-loeffler-of-bribing-trump-with-50-million-to-push-out-her-rival_partner/
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 09:59:20 PM
Even Scott Adams is done with Trump.   :lulz:

https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/1311735674161131520
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 10:48:25 PM
Annnnnnd Jacob Wohl got arrested again.  :lulz:

https://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-359--541052--,00.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 11:00:44 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/29/hhs-ad-blitz-sputters-as-celebrities-back-away-423274

QuoteThey made a list of more than 30 celebrities including Justin Timberlake, Taylor Swift and Billy Joel to appear in their ad campaign to "inspire hope" about coronavirus, but they ended up with only Dennis Quaid, CeCe Winans and Hasidic singer Shulem Lemmer.

The health department's $300 million-plus, taxpayer-funded vehicle to boost confidence in President Donald Trump's response to the pandemic is sputtering. Celebrities are refusing to participate, and staff are arraying against it. Some complain of the unstated aim of helping Trump's re-election. Others point to an ill-prepared video team and a 22-year-old political appointee who has repeatedly asserted control despite having no public health expertise, according to six people with close knowledge of the campaign and documents related to its operations.

Today has been a festival, really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
AND YA DON'T STOP

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/trump-letter-food-aid-boxes-424230

QuoteThe Agriculture Department last week began mandating that millions of boxes of surplus food for needy families include a letter from President Donald Trump claiming credit for the program.

The USDA's $4 billion Farmers to Families Food Box Program has distributed more than 100 million boxes to those in need since May, with the aim of redirecting meat, dairy and produce that might normally go to restaurants and other food-service businesses. But organizations handing out the aid complain the program is now being used to bolster Trump's image a month before a high-stakes election — and some even have refused to distribute them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2020, 12:03:34 AM
How the fuck Jacob Wohl is still not in prison amazes me. His entire schtick is "get caught doing stupid crimes".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2020, 02:41:44 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 02, 2020, 12:03:34 AM
How the fuck Jacob Wohl is still not in prison amazes me. His entire schtick is "get caught doing stupid crimes".

Well, he's looking at 17 years now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 02, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
What a /day/.

Trump and Melania tested positive for COVID.

I'm feeling a little bit of hope. Not much. Just a bit.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 02, 2020, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: altered on October 02, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
What a /day/.

Trump and Melania tested positive for COVID.

I'm feeling a little bit of hope. Not much. Just a bit.

Well "its just like the flu", "im sure hell be fine".  8)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on October 02, 2020, 09:24:45 AM
Quote from: altered on October 02, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
What a /day/.

Trump and Melania tested positive for COVID.

I'm feeling a little bit of hope. Not much. Just a bit.

:zombie:
Hope is aflame!!
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 02, 2020, 02:41:44 AM
Well, he's looking at 17 years now.

I'm sure he will plead guilt due to affluenza and do 6 months probation at a minimum security prison.

Quote from: altered on October 02, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
What a /day/.

Trump and Melania tested positive for COVID.

I'm feeling a little bit of hope. Not much. Just a bit.

And it conveniently gives him an excuse to not attend the next Biden debate! Funny how that works out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 02, 2020, 01:33:36 PM
getting coronavirus to own the libs
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on October 02, 2020, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: altered on October 02, 2020, 06:44:36 AM
What a /day/.

Trump and Melania tested positive for COVID.

I'm feeling a little bit of hope. Not much. Just a bit.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Rev Thwack on October 02, 2020, 02:17:45 PM
if Hope Hicks really was the plague rat that infected Trump, I'm going to have to send her a nice thank you gift. Maybe a fruit basket.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 02, 2020, 02:18:11 PM
maybe a nobel prize
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 02, 2020, 02:33:11 PM
If he survives this, and assumes he is immune, he is going to cancel all restrictions, because he'll be fine
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 02, 2020, 02:33:11 PM
If he survives this, and assumes he is immune, he is going to cancel all restrictions, because he'll be fine

This is what scares me the most.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 02, 2020, 05:05:07 PM
Also, he could be faking it. I mean, he has lied before.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 03, 2020, 06:59:22 AM
I am not the kind of person who feels any sort of glee when bad things happen to my enemies.

:lulz:

Okay, I was lying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 03, 2020, 06:59:47 AM
Quote from: Rev Thwack on October 02, 2020, 02:17:45 PM
if Hope Hicks really was the plague rat that infected Trump, I'm going to have to send her a nice thank you gift. Maybe a fruit basket.

Very much this.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 03, 2020, 07:51:30 AM
Yes indeed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 03, 2020, 01:06:27 PM
Photograph of the White House and Senate Republicans convening to discuss their Supreme Court nomination pick, September 2020

(https://i.imgur.com/x4zgMZk.jpg)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on October 03, 2020, 03:12:30 PM
Interim list of people who attended Trump's announcement of his Supreme Court pick, and have since caught the plague:

Donald Trump
Melania Trump
Bill Stepien (Campaign manager)
Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC)
Rev. John Jenkins (University of Notre Dame President)
Kellyanne Conway

Ironically, the infection of those two senators may impair Barrett's confirmation.  :p

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/mike-lee-tests-positive-covid/index.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 03, 2020, 08:40:50 PM
Thoughts and prayers are with the virus during this difficult time.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 05, 2020, 08:04:13 PM
McEny has the plague.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 07, 2020, 01:22:44 AM
Stephen Miller has it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 07, 2020, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: Bruno on October 07, 2020, 01:22:44 AM
Stephen Miller has it.

woop
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on October 08, 2020, 06:45:13 PM
The only important thing that happened at the VP debate. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UiBjq0ht7U)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 08, 2020, 07:46:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 08, 2020, 06:45:13 PM
The only important thing that happened at the VP debate. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UiBjq0ht7U)

Also the bleeding eyeball thing.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on October 08, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/fbi-plot-michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer/index.html

Have a read.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 09, 2020, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: altered on October 08, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/fbi-plot-michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer/index.html

Have a read.

"Wolverine Watchmen"  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 09, 2020, 12:52:27 AM
I read the court documents directly.

This was seriously planned out, and still operational as of last week. Also, the guy selling bombs is always an undercover FBI agent.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2020, 04:44:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 09, 2020, 12:52:27 AM
I read the court documents directly.

This was seriously planned out, and still operational as of last week. Also, the guy selling bombs is always an undercover FBI agent.

Always and without exception.  But it ALWAYS WORKS.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 09, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
The local sheriff thinks maybe they didn't do anything wrong.

https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/michigan/man-charged-in-plot-to-kidnap-whitmer-shared-stage-with-west-michigan-sheriff-at-rally
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 10, 2020, 12:48:07 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 09, 2020, 04:44:24 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 09, 2020, 12:52:27 AM
I read the court documents directly.

This was seriously planned out, and still operational as of last week. Also, the guy selling bombs is always an undercover FBI agent.

Always and without exception.  But it ALWAYS WORKS.

Admittedly, these guy's OPSEC could use a little work. "Hey, welcome to the Planning Felonies Discussion, I'm glad to see some new faces here" is not a great opener. Nor is operating on the honor system when it comes to trusting that people are not wearing wires. Fuck that, I do cavity searches on my friends when they start discussing pirating movies in my presence.

Quote from: Bruno on October 09, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
The local sheriff thinks maybe they didn't do anything wrong.

https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/michigan/man-charged-in-plot-to-kidnap-whitmer-shared-stage-with-west-michigan-sheriff-at-rally

Well, it is hard to say whether planning a kidnapping, arson and murder is actually illegal, per se. And they call liberals "moral relativists", hah.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 10, 2020, 02:27:41 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 10, 2020, 12:48:07 AM
Well, it is hard to say whether planning a kidnapping, arson and murder is actually illegal, per se. And they call liberals "moral relativists", hah.

Well, monkey see monkey do, it was about a month ago when the feds were kidnapping and beating up protesters without any due process or legal basis... Illegal? Yes. Allowed without prosecution? Sometimes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on October 16, 2020, 04:57:13 AM
Some article I read predicted Trump will crash around the 21st due to the course of drugs he's on being stopped. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 16, 2020, 07:32:46 AM
It would be nice if he stopped shitting on twitter for ten minutes, much less a couple days.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 16, 2020, 07:36:12 AM
It would be like, newsflash! The president has stopped tweeting racist bullshit. Maybe he's dead?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 16, 2020, 07:39:46 AM
Then we get Pence, the guy with the fly on his head.

EDIT: That was hillarious to watch actually, a friend and I were laughing our asses off about how stupid it was but damnit, that fly put on a better performance than Mike Pence.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 16, 2020, 08:05:56 AM
We wanted to see Trump talk out his asshole for a little while longer, but now he can't since he's sick as fuck. I hope he dies truth be told, but the very destiny of our nation is at stake, for four years or so, then the republicans start puking shit out their asses again. Pence got his ass handed to him by Kamalah Harris... nothing to be ashamed of but he was literally, not prepared, and managed to get a fly stuck to his scalp.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 16, 2020, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on October 16, 2020, 08:05:56 AM
We wanted to see Trump talk out his asshole for a little while longer, but now he can't since he's sick as fuck. I hope he dies truth be told, but the very destiny of our nation is at stake, for four years or so, then the republicans start puking shit out their asses again. Pence got his ass handed to him by Kamalah Harris... nothing to be ashamed of but he was literally, not prepared, and managed to get a fly stuck to his scalp.

Pence did better than I expected, but I didn't expect much.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 16, 2020, 05:56:36 PM
Imagine colluding with the Russians again (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/trump-giuliani-hunter-biden-hack-leak-russia-burisma-collusion-new-york-post.html) only to waste that potential on trying to smear Hunter Biden.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on October 16, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: Trivial on October 16, 2020, 04:57:13 AM
Some article I read predicted Trump will crash around the 21st due to the course of drugs he's on being stopped. Here's hoping.

What metric do you possibly use to tell? It's been 4 years+ of crash, just with a different face every day.

At this point going completely "the aristocrats!" will barely shift the vote.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 17, 2020, 12:52:02 AM
Ah, Doc, yeah, Pence did better than expected, but it's hard not to when your running mate is a jabbering lunatic by contrast.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on October 19, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Calling Free Market Capitalist bootlickers COMMIE SHILLS FOR SOCIALIST REGULATIONS because they're in support of lawsuits against Facebook + Twitter for "Censoring" that dumbass Hunter Biden story is my new Hobby  :lulz:

"Whoa - I hate DemocrapBook as much as the next guy, but telling a Private entity what they can and can't display on their own Product/Service sounds like pretty heavy regulation and a slippery slope to Communism, bro."

Also, QAnon recruiting and Research is quickly moving to Parler.com from 8Chan/Kun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on October 19, 2020, 03:35:59 AM
I just got a Trumpster to go full Commie with this tactic. Purity Politics is splitting the Left, but it's easily weaponized against the Right-Wingers too.

I mean, he literally described China's internet regulation policies, treating individual websites as Public Utilities to be controlled by the government, and not only agreed that this is how Social Media should be treated, but also insisted that that this is actually how US Internet Law works currently. I mean, sure, Internet is treated as a Utility to an extent, but not individual Sites/Services on the Internet.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 19, 2020, 09:47:02 AM
There's a lot of that going around lately, as well as the less extreme option of making social media websites responsible for what is published on them.

Beyond the ideological lolz, what they don't understand is that doing this would actually hurt their cause even more. You don't think Biden, Hillary Soros etc would lodge multimillion dollar lawsuits against Facebook, Youtube etc for disseminating libellous conspiracy theories the moment that became possible? Half the conservative grift would become economically unviable overnight because that grift is based entirely around telling outrageous lies about your political opponents.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 19, 2020, 01:06:31 PM
Yeah I feel like the current dialog re: social media and how it should be regulated is like that Looney Tunes bit where Buggs and Daffy pull out successively larger and larger weapons until the guns are planet-sized.

‣ On one hand we have a zero regulation mediascape which is dominated by evocative clickbait... which itself becomes a kind of death spiral because that level of intensity numbs people. Every post is HUNTER BIDEN SMOKES CRACK IN HELL, or TRUMP'S PENIS LOOKS LIKE THE FLY ON PENCE'S HEAD

‣ On the other hand we have a high-regulation mediascape... Which is either basically silent (all content is just Shares from "reputable sources"), or fogged up with metadata. Like when fast food places started displaying calorie counts under everything. It added all this qualifying info, which, for many, only further confuses their reasoning.

The fun thing about the Internet is that we really can have both terrible outcomes at once.... like if twitter decides every single link needs a FactCheck under it--but the fact checking is low-credibility so it actually backfires.

Not to be all "PhonesAreBad (https://www.reddit.com/r/PhonesAreBad/)", but the IDEAL situation is one in which social media is basically ruined for everybody. So, I'm optimistic.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 19, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 19, 2020, 09:47:02 AM
There's a lot of that going around lately, as well as the less extreme option of making social media websites responsible for what is published on them.

Beyond the ideological lolz, what they don't understand is that doing this would actually hurt their cause even more. You don't think Biden, Hillary Soros etc would lodge multimillion dollar lawsuits against Facebook, Youtube etc for disseminating libellous conspiracy theories the moment that became possible? Half the conservative grift would become economically unviable overnight because that grift is based entirely around telling outrageous lies about your political opponents.

THIS. Of course all one has to do is strong-arm the DoJ into action, but what happens when the pendulum swings the other way? I mean, no doubt sooner or later a number of someones really WILL get locked up. This kind of escalation can only end in a dystopian disaster. Whatever happened to "mutually assured destruction" that used to stay itchy trigger fingers? Gone the way of the past if these RWNJs keep pushing the issue.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 19, 2020, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 19, 2020, 01:06:31 PM
like if twitter decides every single link needs a FactCheck under it--but the fact checking is low-credibility so it actually backfires.

This is literally exactly what Facebook did. One of their fact-checkers is the Tucker Carlson-founded Daily Caller. Yes, that Tucker Carlson. One of their deputy editors was a close friend of Richard Spencer, while one of their biggest contributing writers is the guy who organised the "Unite the Right" Charlottesville 2017 rally.

Quote from: Fujikoma on October 19, 2020, 03:23:38 PM
THIS. Of course all one has to do is strong-arm the DoJ into action, but what happens when the pendulum swings the other way? I mean, no doubt sooner or later a number of someones really WILL get locked up. This kind of escalation can only end in a dystopian disaster. Whatever happened to "mutually assured destruction" that used to stay itchy trigger fingers? Gone the way of the past if these RWNJs keep pushing the issue.

Nah, no need to get the DoJ involved once the law is changed. They'll sue for damages and even in the unlikely event that they settle out of court, advertisers and investors won't throw away money on publications that risk being sued into oblivion. No need for jail for anyone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on October 20, 2020, 02:07:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 19, 2020, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 19, 2020, 01:06:31 PM
like if twitter decides every single link needs a FactCheck under it--but the fact checking is low-credibility so it actually backfires.

This is literally exactly what Facebook did. One of their fact-checkers is the Tucker Carlson-founded Daily Caller. Yes, that Tucker Carlson. One of their deputy editors was a close friend of Richard Spencer, while one of their biggest contributing writers is the guy who organised the "Unite the Right" Charlottesville 2017 rally.

Wtf... How the fuck am I just now finding out about this?...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 20, 2020, 04:42:43 AM
I stand corrected, I was under the impression that the pendulum could swing both ways and that the actions of the right wing have been amazingly self-destructive in the long-run, but I failed to see how one-sided it could be in the face of actually big money, which is pretty one-sided when it comes to extraordinarily deep pockets with little to lose. I thought simply of the fact that eventually the RWNJs will be out of power and their abuses of power would be siezed upon as precedent, and then the DoJ would be under different control, but in this scenario the pendulum never swings back. I'll be ok with that as long as we never endure another populist idiot reality television star, but my knowlege of human nature tells me this isn't the last time. It probably goes without saying that those kinds of idiots are an aspect of history and will come time and time again seeking power.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2020, 09:12:14 PM
Alright, who had "Borat compromising Rudy Giuliani by filming him with his hands down his pants while alone in a hotel room with his 15 year old daughter" on their bingo card?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on October 21, 2020, 09:16:52 PM
What? Oh god link?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2020, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 21, 2020, 09:16:52 PM
What? Oh god link?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

QuoteIn the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat's daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist.

Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news programme, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras.

After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: "She's 15. She's too old for you."

Representatives for Giuliani have not replied to the Guardian's requests for comment.

I've seen a still from the scene. It's...not a good look.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on October 21, 2020, 11:15:14 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 21, 2020, 11:22:27 PM
Fort Bragg's Twitter also got deleted like, an hour ago for writing sexy tweets. But these were to an adult woman, who worked in the sex industry.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 22, 2020, 12:06:09 AM

Maria Bakalova is 24 years of age.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 22, 2020, 12:26:46 AM
This is true, and it seems he didn't "know" until Sacha Baron-Cohen came in.

At the same time though, it's only slightly less creepy than a 76 year old doing this to a 15 year old, and that he didn't seem to question her age when told suggests to me that there was an element of doubt that he was comfortable with until he realised someone else was making an issue of it.

I mean, that says to me he's perfectly fine with the concept of being given sexual favours from girls a quarter of his age and that it's probably happened before, regardless of if they were above 18 or under.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 22, 2020, 12:29:27 AM

Not taking away from all of that, just felt it was an important fact to take into account.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 22, 2020, 12:31:07 AM
Sure, it is worth mentioning. I wasn't sure on that point myself initially.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 22, 2020, 12:38:56 AM

Like another thing is that she was posing as a TV journalist... do TV news rely on child labour these days to fuel their cheap and low quality article sweatshops or do they usually use adults as journalists?

I know Giulani is subhuman trash just from the fact of his "zero-tolerance" policy back in the days, but this is just so convenient... this seems like democrats playing the dirty game republicans play all the time, by smearing and exagerating facts while downplaying others with the same fervor.

Maybe in all practicality im just killing the joke by overanalyzing it, but this is what comes to mind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 22, 2020, 01:29:42 PM
There is also a national-security component I think you might be overlooking here.

Sacha Baron-Cohen is posing as a foreigner, travelling with attactive woman, looking to meet with or get information on the President, and Rudy's first thoughts once he's alone with said woman are "lets fuck". Lets put aside the purported age aspect for a moment.

The chances that there isn't already blackmail material on him, held by any number of intelligence agencies, is basically zero at this point. Which given he's spent the last two weeks waving around intel obtained by  a Russian intelligence hacking operation (most likely) and handed over to him by an asset of Russian intelligence (as per the US Treasury's own blacklist of foreign nationals) means the President's lawyer is a Russian intelligence asset. This episode demonstrates just how easily entrapped he is.

Now imagine if the girl was underage, and Rudy didn't know or cared to ask, and Russian intelligence stuck half a dozen hidden cameras in the room. It's been done before.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2020, 02:12:36 PM
I'd really need to see the clip, but the article read to me like Ghoulyani's fuckup was getting easily baited into having sex with a total stranger while cameras were rolling. I didn't get the sense people told him she was "15" beforehand. The actor doesn't LOOK 15, otherwise Borat rushing into the room and yelling "she's 15, she's too old for you" wouldn't work as a punchline. I don't think he's even married right now so it's not like he's breaking some trust, he's just a dumbass. A dumbass who runs a cybersecurity firm

btw its obvious that this is got put out there now because Borat 2 is coming out tomorrow, so our conversation right here is just part of its marketing -- but I don't give a shit, fuck giuliani
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on October 24, 2020, 02:28:36 AM
Well, there it is.

https://youtu.be/6fG0RRZoAJo
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 24, 2020, 03:57:43 PM
Did someone say court packing was a "bad thing"?

https://apnews.com/article/legislature-arizona-iowa-separation-of-powers-us-supreme-court-31f4996a200be4622361603aabf92302
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 24, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
Does the number of justices and judges need to increase with the quantity of the general populace to keep its proportion and pragmatic functioning?

(This is an independent matter of why theyre choosing to expand their numbers right now, which is for flawed reasons)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on October 25, 2020, 09:10:38 PM

"Honest Government Ad: Q Anon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SoJI_KNV0Q

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: TheAudience on October 28, 2020, 04:11:18 PM
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/28/trump-supporters-left-stranded-at-freezing-omaha-airport/

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1321416587363131396

tl;dr Bus drivers wanted to be paid upfront for work, Trump campaign (which hasn't paid a lot of other cities for the cost of their campaign rallies) said "you'll have to sue us" so bus drivers left stranding a bunch of trump supporters in the cold. The supporters probably won't learn anything. Just another slow news day in 2020 I guess.

Who wants to join with me in imbibing a little schadenfreude?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: TheAudience on October 28, 2020, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: TheAudience on October 28, 2020, 04:11:18 PM
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/28/trump-supporters-left-stranded-at-freezing-omaha-airport/

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1321416587363131396

tl;dr Bus drivers wanted to be paid upfront for work, Trump campaign (which hasn't paid a lot of other cities for the cost of their campaign rallies) said "you'll have to sue us" so bus drivers left stranding a bunch of trump supporters in the cold. The supporters probably won't learn anything. Just another slow news day in 2020 I guess.

Who wants to join with me in imbibing a little schadenfreude?
Sorry, I spread misinfo. It's not confirmed that this is what happened (trump campaign stiffing bus drivers, this was someone's guess). but trump supporters really did get left freezing after the rally somehow.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on October 28, 2020, 06:11:10 PM
It sounds very likely though, yeah.

Anyway, the hypothermia rates among Trump supporters at last night's rally are only so high because of all the testing they did for it. I'm sure if they stopped testing the numbers would go down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on October 28, 2020, 07:21:07 PM
I'm sure the media is just blowing this out of proportion like Russia, Ukraine, Covid-19, all just to make Trump look bad. Those bus drivers were appointed by Obama, bam, mystery solved. Let's get Barr on this.

EDIT: I should probably add that I'm being sarcastic by channeling the Trumpanzee mindset. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised to see such on Faux.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 03, 2020, 11:33:56 PM
So, does anyone have any FANTASTIC LATE POLLING DATA or is it too early for that?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 04, 2020, 12:46:00 AM
Probably too early. Also probably too early to start drinking, and yet I started 10 minutes ago.

Biden's ahead in Florida by 1.7% with 77% reporting, and currently leading in Georgia by 2.2%, but only 6% reporting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on November 04, 2020, 01:37:14 AM
It's still too early to tell on most states, including the battleground states, regardless of what your source says. ABC says something different than NPR says something different than 270, etc...
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 02:06:45 AM

US elections always remind me how much of a fraud electoral votes are.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on November 04, 2020, 02:30:46 AM
I'm watching 3 different projections: ABC, NPR, and 270toWin. Every site has something different.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 02:49:05 AM

Typing presidential race into Google shows up a very simple map with decided and undecided states and the popular vote numbers.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on November 04, 2020, 02:59:06 AM
Helpful tool.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/upshot/network-race-call-tracker.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 03:48:23 AM
Calling it.  We're fucked.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 03:48:56 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 03, 2020, 11:33:56 PM
So, does anyone have any FANTASTIC LATE POLLING DATA or is it too early for that?

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 04:03:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 03:48:23 AM
Calling it.  We're fucked.

Biden seems way ahead in electoral votes by like 100, but on popular vote its like 2.5kk behind.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 04:13:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 03:48:23 AM
Calling it.  We're fucked.

Swing states looking pretty grim, it appears to be that Trump won.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 04:53:36 AM
I was planning to try to be a refugee somewhere if Trump wins, but my friend talked me out of it, she's, experienced with corruption and everything falling apart because she's from a third world country, and I defer to her wisdom. I really do not want Trump to win, I feel like if he does it's the beginning of the end for the whole world.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 04, 2020, 04:54:58 AM
Considering the percentage of people who polled that they planned to vote by mail-in, I think we will truly have to wait for all the mail-ins over the next day or two. If Biden can get Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, he has a serious chance, and since (I think) the latter three count their mail-ins + early votes last, Biden is likely to start picking up in those states later in the night and well into tomorrow.

And since all the News Site numbers are based on predicted voter turnout, the mail-ins make things a bit harder to really predict.

Just in case Trump tries to call it early, I've got a bottle of New Riff Single Barrel, Nicotine patches, and a sheet of Benadryl.

I think Trump's going to win, but I'm trying to be optimistic without necessarily getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 05:00:57 AM
Wait, I know there's a pandemic but given what's at stake I'd expect people to vote in person. Anything less is asking for this to become a slanted supreme court ruling. I voted early, but like, I seriously doubt any of the bullshit coming out of Trump's mouth could win me over.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 04, 2020, 05:10:43 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 03:48:23 AM
Calling it.  We're fucked.

Agteed. Not by numbers analysis, but because the only peacable scenario, a resounding and indisputable Biden win, ain't happening. Even if he ekes out a marginal victory, which is sadly in doubt, it will be contested well beyond the point of political violence. A Trump win just might be more like Rawamda or some shit. Them fuckers are NOT joking about killing off "The Liberals" however they may define that, and you can expect the executive to decline enforcement, maybe even issue a few token pardons.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 06:17:06 AM

Its ok guys, left wingers got a moral victory out of this because Biden was not their utopic version of a candidate, and that is what really matters at the end of the day.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 04, 2020, 06:33:56 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on November 04, 2020, 06:17:06 AM

Its ok guys, left wingers got a moral victory out of this because Biden was not their utopic version of a candidate, and that is what really matters at the end of the day.

This.

I literally saw some saying "They're not even trying to get my vote!"

Translation: "I don't just vote for any Democrat when the alternative is White Supremacist mass-erection for the foreseeable future - I have to be WOOOED."

And also:

"They decided to go after the Right-leaning Centrist votes instead of my Anarcho-Communist vote!"

No fucking shit. He had some faith that you were smart enough to understand basic political strategy and that their vote was necessary to win against a Populist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 07:21:52 AM
I mean you can bitch all you want but our chosen savior seems to be running neck and neck with the antichrist. If there were some strategy or tactics to this, we should be winning, outsmarting Trump is about as hard as outsmarting a floating turd in a toilet bowl.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 04, 2020, 09:35:16 AM
So I see from the morning news that Trump has declared himself the winner, even with millions of votes and several key battleground states left in play.

Buckle up, everyone.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 04, 2020, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 09:35:16 AM
So I see from the morning news that Trump has declared himself the winner, even with millions of votes and several key battleground states left in play.

Buckle up, everyone.

Yup. Judging by some of the second hand group chatter I am seeing his partisans are already sounding brass and beating the drums pretty loud on "mysterious" votes The Democrats are "finding" that are somwhow highly suspicious. This is only a slightly better scenario than a Trump outright win. By better I mean the same bomb of decentralized violent reprisal with a somewhat longer fuse.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
I'm sitting here, watching the search results for voting, and looking at how many people voted for Trump. I find myself thoroughly disgusted with my country, which I was disgusted before but I thought there was some hope. Even if Biden wins that's a sizable chunk of the population that wants four more years of this Trump bullshit.

EDIT: Last night was rough for me, a friend of mine calmed me down, reminded me that her home country gets along ok even with assloads of corruption. She said it's dissappointing, but it isn't the end of the world, it's just a world we must adapt to. Damnit though, why can't these people understand they're willingly throwing us all under the bus, is it the single-issue voters? Those religious nutcases that believe a woman must deliver a child if she gets pregnant? Those irrationally afraid of people from Mexico because some arsehole painted so many of them as rapists and murderers?

I dunno, that's only part of it. But when Jesus comes back, it is stated that he will judge the living and the dead, and these are people I feel he will say "I know you not." to. I mean, what happened to selling your soul for riches and power? These fuckers sell out for a dime. This tells me there's a buck to be made somewhere. Souls are cheap, stock up so if you end up in hell you've got something to barter with the fiends in charge.


Sorry, this is rough for me and I just needed to let a little of it out. It's not over yet, but even best case scenario any faith I had in humanity is shattered.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 04, 2020, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

This I What Democracy Looks Like...
:dream:
:angrymob: :angrymob: :angrymob: :angrymob: :angrymob:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 04, 2020, 03:17:17 PM
Also seems the Dems LOST house seats.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/democrats-holding-house-majority-suffer-102919061.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: PopeTom on November 04, 2020, 07:50:42 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 07:21:52 AM
I mean you can bitch all you want but our chosen savior seems to be running neck and neck with the antichrist. If there were some strategy or tactics to this, we should be winning, outsmarting Trump is about as hard as outsmarting a floating turd in a toilet bowl.

The side playing chess always loses when the other side is playing shit all over the chess board.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

As it stands, if every state goes as projected, Biden wins by 2 electoral votes.

This is gonna be a mess.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 04, 2020, 09:20:43 PM
Only 2? Christ.

With Trump basically asking for everyone to do a coup on Twitter right now, there's no way he will accept that.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 04, 2020, 10:07:16 PM
The amount of disinformation flowing in from the usual suspects (Breitbart, Daily Wire, all the tards on Parley, etc.) about claimed (And immediately refuted) instances of voter fraud is actually proof that this was the plan all along. It's a higher amount than usual, and it's not even skewed or misrepresented facts. It's just obvious lies, shitty photoshops, and complete bullshit to anyone who actually knows anything about Elections, or even happened to listen to how the votes are processed this Cycle.

I suspect things are about to get REALLY violent. All the Right-Wingers on my Friends list are falling for ALL of it, and all of the energized ones are becoming enraged. Thankfully, our voting location was almost entirely populated by African Americans in one of the only Blue Districts in Southern Ohio, making our very local location a safe-haven with regard to potential Poll Watchers. But the general area we live in is prime for exploding racial tensions. Our area is surrounded by Trump demographics on all sides, while the towns/cities we live in the middle of are high-percentage African American, but majority White, and the home of one of the biggest highway Trump Parades (And one of the only ones that involved a Trump Supporter in that parade shooting at a random Semi Truck Windshield.). Our area is a White Supremacist target.

I'm kind of wishing I'd bought a gun before today  :horrormirth:

EDIT: Nevermind. We're fine. It's just the Ballot Counting locations in the current Battleground States that are under siege.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 04, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

Wins by 2 electoral votes.

In the Uk thats called a decisive victory and the will of the people
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 04, 2020, 11:08:36 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 04, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

Wins by 2 electoral votes.

In the Uk thats called a decisive victory and the will of the people

Only when the right people win, though. Otherwise it's "unfinished business".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 11:18:25 PM
Joe Biden has 264 electoral votes so far, this is my first election I've watched this closely, if he hits 270 is it over?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 04, 2020, 11:33:13 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 04, 2020, 11:18:25 PM
Joe Biden has 264 electoral votes so far, this is my first election I've watched this closely, if he hits 270 is it over?

Unless Trump manages some really shady maneuver of some kind, yes.

Nevada's making me a bit nervous. Biden's ahead by just 0.6% with 75% reporting.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 05, 2020, 12:20:09 AM
Nevada hasn't moved all day, is it black jack and hookers day in that state?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 05, 2020, 12:27:50 AM
QuoteThe Nevada secretary of state's elections division says it will give its next update on results Thursday morning. As of Wednesday evening, the state had completed 75% of its tally, with Biden having a slight edge.


https://www.npr.org/2020/11/04/931288362/when-will-we-know-the-winner-timeframes-for-6-key-states
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 05, 2020, 02:31:08 PM
Trump's bullshit rants worked. Shit's escalating AT a Ballot Counting Facility:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/maricopa-arizona-trump-supporters-guns-2020-election-b1608315.html?fbclid=IwAR2fEE122ho4J_0eh6xea7AjxbKanNjC9bPctiNyGTCYAyBkV8PjTR8F3rA
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: LMNO on November 05, 2020, 02:58:56 PM
Maricopa?  Whoda thunk it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 05, 2020, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 04, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

Wins by 2 electoral votes.

In the Uk thats called a decisive victory and the will of the people

In the USA it's EBBERBUDY GRAB YER GUNS
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 05, 2020, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 05, 2020, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 04, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 04, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
That said, a tight race where one of the candidates suggested people "inject bleach" during a deadly pandemic is not exactly a ringing endorsement for democracy, at this point.

Wins by 2 electoral votes.

In the Uk thats called a decisive victory and the will of the people

In the USA it's EBBERBUDY GRAB YER GUNS

At this rate, I'd expect that to happen regardless of the results.

Honestly, I'm shocked that there's not been a mass shooting incident at a polling location. Must be saving that for after the result.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 05, 2020, 07:49:46 PM
They're very much waiting to see what Trump does. He might stick to the legal challenges and the cries of fraud even after defeat - he might even declare that he will remain President until 2024.

But if he runs off to Saudi Arabia while they start a revolt, they're gonna look like idiots.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 05, 2020, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 05, 2020, 07:49:46 PM
They're very much waiting to see what Trump does. He might stick to the legal challenges and the cries of fraud even after defeat - he might even declare that he will remain President until 2024.

But if he runs off to Saudi Arabia while they start a revolt, they're gonna look like idiots.

But if he runs off to Saudi Arabia Mother Russia while they start a revolt, they're gonna look like idiots.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Suu on November 05, 2020, 08:47:23 PM
Evidently, he's already considering a 2024 run, which means he's ready to lose, but not go to jail.

President Pence by next week, ready to pardon Trump by the new year.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 05, 2020, 11:24:43 PM
Apparently some shit is brewing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1246559

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 05, 2020, 11:55:46 PM
"Fox news sucks." Well no shit, Sherlock.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 06, 2020, 08:36:14 AM
Fuck, I know Newt Gingrich is a fucking nobody these days, but if Trump were to actually do what he's suggesting here, actual civil war would be pretty fucking likely.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/newt-gingrich-calls-on-trump-justice-department-to-jail-election-workers-in-bonkers-rant-baselessly-alleging-stolen-election/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0qicgC07KKkYLQlOtOGlW18W23SuhDpLoy1Q_FML2KJfnXSSllwlBDr08
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 06, 2020, 11:39:03 AM
I've been trying to avoid reading until its done, but please dont let this faint flicker of hope be fake.
Fantastic turnout and effort regardless of which way this lands, my faith in those willing to try and make a change is somewhat restored, I'm not really surprised trump had record numbers of votes as well, this beast was never going to be an easy one to put back in the box.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 06, 2020, 01:01:36 PM
Biden's in the lead in Georgia, apparently they finally got around to counting my vote.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 07, 2020, 10:02:34 PM

So i see Biden won, and Trump isnt recognizing it.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 08, 2020, 12:14:50 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on November 07, 2020, 10:02:34 PM

So i see Biden won, and Trump isnt recognizing it.

Yup, and his supporters are getting feisty.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on November 08, 2020, 12:37:40 AM
I'm delighted with today, even if there is a likely civil war on the way I dont see Trump sticking around to see it
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 08, 2020, 07:00:53 PM
Oohh dey be marchin' and dey be mad bro.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-over-trump-supporters-begin-191225964.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2020, 04:18:41 AM
I'll be personally pleased if there's not some spate of RWNJ violence somewhere, but I expect to be dissappointed.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: There is no self on November 09, 2020, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 08, 2020, 07:00:53 PM
Oohh dey be marchin' and dey be mad bro.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-over-trump-supporters-begin-191225964.html

I wonder if they're the same people who were telling Hillary supporters to "stop crying and deal with it" four years ago.

Anyway, I'm glad this is over. I can't say Biden is my ideal candidate, but at least we got rid of Trump. My only fear, apart from a possible civil war, is people thinking along the lines of "the monster is slain, all will be well" and forgetting the millions who voted once again for the monster - something the Democrats, and the left in general, should really start thinking about.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 09, 2020, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Haumavarga on November 09, 2020, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 08, 2020, 07:00:53 PM
Oohh dey be marchin' and dey be mad bro.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-over-trump-supporters-begin-191225964.html

I wonder if they're the same people who were telling Hillary supporters to "stop crying and deal with it" four years ago.

Well, yeah.

QuoteAnyway, I'm glad this is over. I can't say Biden is my ideal candidate, but at least we got rid of Trump. My only fear, apart from a possible civil war, is people thinking along the lines of "the monster is slain, all will be well" and forgetting the millions who voted once again for the monster - something the Democrats, and the left in general, should really start thinking about.

And also that we have to get the senate in the midterms.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2020, 06:09:46 PM
I've been telling people that we can't ease up just because Trump is gone, without a senate majority Mitch is just going to keep doing what he always does. We have a runoff election for two senators here in Georgia. That may just be the ticket. Also, we cannot afford to lose the house.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 09, 2020, 06:26:29 PM
Anyone thinking that he may have another go in 4 years? It's horrible and funny enough to happen which makes it seem likey. And a win then isn't inconceivable. Presuming he's not in jail.

When this election has both record turnouts, I can just see the left fuck it all to bits while the right froths and helps them fuck it all to bits. Then you get a republican house, Senate and presidency which enacts the most progressive policies of Pharaohs.

I'm telling you, in less than 20 years he's getting the Lenin treatment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2020, 08:23:45 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/09/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-gardening-merchandise

Get your keepsake bumper stickers today, make america rake again! Lawn and Order!

EDIT: Buy a whole box of them and place them on random bumpers in the wal-mart parking lot.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 10, 2020, 02:05:16 AM
Concerning the Parler/MeWe rapture going on:

I'm thinking the left should leave them be and let them build their little ultimate echo chamber so that, with no common enemy to rally against, they will start to turn on each other.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 10, 2020, 04:24:10 AM
The problem I have with that is that I have loved ones that would be on the other end of that echo chamber... I do not want some echo chamber of hate, but hoping it magically evaporates is a bit much.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on November 10, 2020, 05:03:09 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 10, 2020, 04:24:10 AM
The problem I have with that is that I have loved ones that would be on the other end of that echo chamber... I do not want some echo chamber of hate, but hoping it magically evaporates is a bit much.

The way to get rid of echo chambers is start shouting dissonant things, you just have to figure out how to do so in a way that won't get you silenced.  Follow your friends and family into the echo chambers and help them resonate differently.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 10, 2020, 05:14:48 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 10, 2020, 02:05:16 AM
Concerning the Parler/MeWe rapture going on:

I'm thinking the left should leave them be and let them build their little ultimate echo chamber so that, with no common enemy to rally against, they will start to turn on each other.

That did NOT work so well for 8Chan. That's how you get El Paso.

In all seriousness, we should probably be abusing the fucking shit out of Parler and its moderators. I think it's the perfect set for the next Operation: Mindfuck. We need to make their disinformation so flimsy that it collapses before it gets out, and we need to steal views away from the real stuff.

Of course, there should also be a REAL Left Wing presence dishing dissenting views as well.

Plenty of people have been successful at claiming to be QAnon/Pro-Trump, and then changing Group Names after thousands of people had joined. Other Lefties in some groups are spreading peaceful messages that still echo the Trump rhetoric of EVERYTHING IS A LIE, I WON BY A LOT to try and reduce the boil to a simmer.

There really are a lot of options, but Discordian ones that make Right-Wingers think they're 2Moderate2Chill with our l337 QAnon Group that's been owning libs since the days of Phr34king and Aqua-Boxing the FBI while simultaneously feeding them Marxist propaganda sounds like the most fun.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 10, 2020, 07:01:19 AM
I don't really have the patience for a chamber of ignorant hate. It's lacking since all the shit I've been put through trying to accept them.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 10, 2020, 08:52:58 AM

I dont really have a well established theoretical perspective about these things but, such ideological postures are just a variation of defense mechanisms.

And defense mechanisms act upon what they perceive to be dangerous threats, regardless of their true relation to reality.

So unless you can manage to bunker-bust their irrational fears, you are not accomplishing ANYTHING.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 10, 2020, 12:13:19 PM
Parler bans left-wing accounts anyway. For all their "free speech" talk it's a literal safe space, a hugbox for the far-right.

In fact, they can terminate accounts for any reason (or none at all) at any given time, and will very likely do so against accounts that buck the conservative sentiment of the moment. If nothing else, it reminds me of r/The_Donald - there are no standards, and anything which disagrees with the current trends, even if from a "conservative" POV will result in your removal.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 10, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
All I'm hearing is that the FUN option is the ONLY option, and that we should feel encouraged to lie at every opportunity...

The basis of Conservative politics is over-simplification of Topics and ideas to the point that it takes less energy to accept the summarization than it does to refute it.

A Time Bomb is an idea such as this that has been crafted in such a way that it appears to be difficult to refute to someone who already leans toward similar ideas, but that is not only easily refutable, but so completely transparent to anyone with a working brain that the reaction someone gets for bringing it up elsewhere is pure :lulz:. If it's filled with enough holes, we should have people on our side responding in agreement with justifications that are just as flimsy. Any responses that question the idea should be laughed at and treated as undercover Antifa.

A Trojan Horse is an argument that has been crafted to appear as Right-Wing as it gets because of its radical, rebellious nature, but that is likely a direct quote from Marx, Engels, or whoever. Noam Chomsky shat on the media for his entire life, and there's a lot of anti-media sentiment going around on the Right, so it would be easy as fuck to slip in some of his quotes as well. If we get enough of them solidifying Healthy* rebellious thoughts in their minds, we can slowly replace their talking points with ones the Far Left can agree with.

Meanwhile, I'll be doing Community Outreach in Ohio to see if I can bridge Rural Ohioans with the Far Left over key issues like guns and Term Limits. I already have Right-Winger friends who voted for Trump telling me they're no longer interested in politics, and are cool with having civil discussions again. I'm going to take advantage of this by harvesting Rural/Agricultural Policy suggestions from their friends and family to feed to Far-Left and Democratic political groups in the area. If we can steal back portions of Rural Ohio over topics we agree on, that's one more State to the Presidency, more districts to the House, and more seats to the Senate. And I think that's possible by feeding Socialist Agriculture Reform to Rural Ohio, since the Republicans and Democrats are both notorious for ignoring Agricultural Policy every year.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2020, 09:33:49 PM
Hey look, open treason from sec state!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pompeo-smooth-transition-second-trump-administration-435754

Quote

"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," Pompeo said during a news conference Tuesday afternoon.

When pressed on whether he and his department are preparing to hand over power to President-elect Biden and his team, Pompeo, who at times grew irritated at the questions, made it clear he didn't see the contest as having concluded. At one point, he referred to the importance of counting "every legal vote" — phrasing other Trump allies have used to suggest without evidence that widespread voter fraud helped Biden.

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 11, 2020, 12:16:20 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 10, 2020, 09:33:49 PM
Hey look, open treason from sec state!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pompeo-smooth-transition-second-trump-administration-435754

Quote

"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," Pompeo said during a news conference Tuesday afternoon.

When pressed on whether he and his department are preparing to hand over power to President-elect Biden and his team, Pompeo, who at times grew irritated at the questions, made it clear he didn't see the contest as having concluded. At one point, he referred to the importance of counting "every legal vote" — phrasing other Trump allies have used to suggest without evidence that widespread voter fraud helped Biden.


Tbh for the most part its just delusion and denial... although i agree that its also preliminar setup for the possibility of armed revolt if they get any chance at doing it effectively.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 11, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
I want to share a quote from a friend at this point, because I think it gets to the essence of this wierd moment:

QuoteBefore the election I thought that was going to be the playbook.

But it seems that DJT simply cannot focus enough to run that game. He would have to say They Betrayed Democracy, but he does not care about democracy so it just comes out as They Tried To Cheat Me, which is not the same.

I was relieved when Fox News refused to play along. It seemed to me that they and the Republicans saw this as a fight that DJT would likely lose, and gambling on that was too dangerous for them; backing T personally to the hilt leaves them compromised if T loses.

But I misjudged the cowardice of the Republican Party. Most Republican electeds are trying to ride out this interval without either throwing fully behind Trump OR conceding to Biden.

And while Team Trump ARE fully playing along with Maximum Leader, they cannot lead from below, which means they cannot set up the They Betrayed Democracy story from their end; it has to come from the man himself. Nor does it seem that all the brownshirts out there itching for a fight have the ability to act decisively and get ahead of the President.

But this weird in-between state cannot last forever. Somebody is going to make a move and we are going to be all the way in the churn.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 11, 2020, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: Cain on November 11, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
I want to share a quote from a friend at this point, because I think it gets to the essence of this wierd moment:

QuoteBefore the election I thought that was going to be the playbook.

But it seems that DJT simply cannot focus enough to run that game. He would have to say They Betrayed Democracy, but he does not care about democracy so it just comes out as They Tried To Cheat Me, which is not the same.

I was relieved when Fox News refused to play along. It seemed to me that they and the Republicans saw this as a fight that DJT would likely lose, and gambling on that was too dangerous for them; backing T personally to the hilt leaves them compromised if T loses.

But I misjudged the cowardice of the Republican Party. Most Republican electeds are trying to ride out this interval without either throwing fully behind Trump OR conceding to Biden.

And while Team Trump ARE fully playing along with Maximum Leader, they cannot lead from below, which means they cannot set up the They Betrayed Democracy story from their end; it has to come from the man himself. Nor does it seem that all the brownshirts out there itching for a fight have the ability to act decisively and get ahead of the President.

But this weird in-between state cannot last forever. Somebody is going to make a move and we are going to be all the way in the churn.

I do wonder if Biden's getting assassinated before he takes up office.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on November 11, 2020, 11:27:57 AM
Bookies had odds of about 1000/1 of Harris being next president. I threw 2 quid on it. The chances of an 80odd year old guy dying in the next 2 months seems very much in the realms of the possible.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 11, 2020, 04:58:31 PM
So is anyone else shitting themselves over the whole Trump installing loyalists in the DoD/DoJ thing that's happening?

I mean, we're officially in classic Coup (Right out of USA's playbook) territory, right? That whole "The military will remove Trump if it needs to" thing is starting to feel less and less likely...

Also, in all seriousness (Dear FBI, this is a joke.), wouldn't all of this stop if someone gave him the Lincoln during one of his Hamberders?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 11, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
I've been hoping for a while that one of his generals would just snap his neck. I mean, I didn't have much hope that would happen, but it's a nice thought.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 11, 2020, 05:42:20 PM
Nah. He is busily fucking the Pentagon as we speak and installing fanatical loyalists.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html

Not even going to pull specific quotes. It's all horrifying.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 11, 2020, 06:02:47 PM
Proud Boys are taking off their "Definitely not a Nazi" mask.  (https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-based-stickman-enrique-tarrio-goys-1546597?fbclid=IwAR2mEmT8i9oiQj14lPourGWG-Ggpo5yd7qh1RSkhNqQ1Lo4yyTwP75aIsXA)

Time to arm yourselves. Shit's getting real. They won't be the only ones to take off the mask this week. This will empower the other militant groups.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 11, 2020, 06:36:42 PM
Not sure if I should make anything of it just yet, but I've been noticing more gunshots out here in the country in the last few days.

One of my neighbors must have blown through forty bucks (current prices) worth of ammo yesterday.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 13, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
Forty bucks goes quickly these days!
But you can definitely make a case for taking something from it.
The simple folk in the red team have been getting ready to throw down for a long time.
They see what's going on as a literal attack on their lives.  They're scared shitless.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 13, 2020, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 13, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
The simple folk in the red team have been getting ready to throw down for a long time.

That is because they still believe the Rambo mythos, and they believe that their tacticool bullshit would be effective.  Or that their rifles would be.

They are 30 years behind the curve.

Quote
They see what's going on as a literal attack on their lives.  They're scared shitless.

Life is sometimes difficult and they should consider wearing a hat.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 13, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 13, 2020, 10:38:38 PM
Now that I think about it, It more than likely has something to do with the start of deer season. I haven't heard anything in the last couple of days.

I'm more worried about all the various neo-fascist groups headed to DC where there are tens of thousands of people out on the streets celebrating Trump's defeat.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/11/12/far-right-extremists-heading-washington-amid-talk-trump-coup
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2020, 04:47:37 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 13, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.

I'm in a position to know that any number of clever bastards with rifles would be cat meat inside of a week.

Tech has really changed in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 14, 2020, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2020, 04:47:37 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 13, 2020, 09:55:22 PM
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.

I'm in a position to know that any number of clever bastards with rifles would be cat meat inside of a week.

Tech has really changed in the last 3 years.


Hell, it was like that back when I was in high school, back then I was all like, fite the powa, blah blah, and one of my better teachers, this old black man, pulled me aside and was like "Boy, I was once in the military, you know what would happen to you if you even got anywhere with that shit? It'd be ugly, they have mortars, missiles. They will sooner destroy your whole town..."

EDIT: You're right though. Nowdays there's even fewer places to hide, drone strikes etc. You just can't compete with that sort of resource machine with your puny rifle unless you're willing to commit for the long haul, and there are no gaurentees you won't be dead as dirt before the real shit goes down.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2020, 12:35:54 PM
Besides the tech, there's also three other things people forget:

1) the advantages most foreign insurgent groups have against the US, of coming from a different language and culture (which makes infiltration for the purposes of gathering intelligence much harder) and knowing the territory much better than the invading forces will not apply.

2) the US isn't heavily invested in what happens in foreign countries with contrast to the USA. They will expend far more resources and act far more harshly to quell violence in the interior, because it's infinitely more dangerous.

3) the US won't be seeking to negotiate a settlement with rebels. Rebels are, by their nature, de jure illegitimate forces attempting to overthrow the authorities. Sure, they say the same about terrorists, but they're willing to negotiate there and we all know it. Rebels will hang. That means they'll be tending towards total war, the elimination of enemy forces and breaking their ability to fight at all, to serve as an example to their sympathizers.

You can't really look to performance in Iraq, Afghanistan etc to predict outcomes here because of these factors.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 14, 2020, 04:04:33 PM
There's no way a rebel uprising would succeed in overthrowing the government unless they had a significant number of defectors from within the military and civilian police forces, way more than three percent.

If three percent of the adult population, about ten million people, suddenly went all domestic terrorist on us, it would be one hell of a mess, though. Even just a hundred thousand of them would be pretty inconvenient.

I think a war of passive aggression is more likely; people letting the Freon out of the local Democrat HQ HVAC, a little light arson here and there, etc... One of those armed protests getting out of hand doesn't seem that unlikely.

Actual armed takeover of the United states by a band of Boogaloo Bubbas is pure fantasy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 14, 2020, 06:32:04 PM
The scary thing is a lot of police unions endorsed Trump, and an unknown, non-zero number in the military believe in him. Might not get enough to claim victory but could potentially get enough to cause some real havok. Hopefully it's just the passive-aggressive shit you spoke of.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 14, 2020, 08:46:50 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/thousands-rally-dc-support-outgoing-172704016.html

Million MAGA March?
:teabagger1:
:this:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on November 14, 2020, 11:40:29 PM
Beau of the Fifth Column has besn a fave of mine for a while. He's a nearly seraphic straight shooter and fine analyst. This is more on the subject of WHY a military coup is unlikley in the extreme. Kinda put my mind at ease a bit. Not a lot. Just enough to take the edge off slightly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2iRT6BU34
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on November 15, 2020, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 11, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
I've been hoping for a while that one of his generals would just snap his neck. I mean, I didn't have much hope that would happen, but it's a nice thought.

That would be a coup.  Not the worst possible thing, but still not great.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 15, 2020, 07:26:27 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 15, 2020, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 11, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
I've been hoping for a while that one of his generals would just snap his neck. I mean, I didn't have much hope that would happen, but it's a nice thought.

That would be a coup.  Not the worst possible thing, but still not great.

But is it really stealing if you're stealing from a thief, as the saying goes.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 15, 2020, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 14, 2020, 11:40:29 PM
Beau of the Fifth Column has besn a fave of mine for a while. He's a nearly seraphic straight shooter and fine analyst. This is more on the subject of WHY a military coup is unlikley in the extreme. Kinda put my mind at ease a bit. Not a lot. Just enough to take the edge off slightly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2iRT6BU34

Thats really nice, because the last thing i want to do right now is starting to learn chinese to welcome our new alien overlords, from the resulting power vacuum.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 15, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
Thanks for that Joseph, it set my mind at ease some. Dude seems pretty cool.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 07:16:09 AM
Is anybody else at least slightly worried that all these vote cases seem to be getting rammed through just to fail so they can be brought up in a higher court? *eyes the conservative majority on the supreme court warily*
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 19, 2020, 07:47:01 AM
I'm more worried about what he's doing to sabotage the country just to make Biden look bad.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: The Johnny on November 19, 2020, 07:53:25 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 19, 2020, 07:47:01 AM
I'm more worried about what he's doing to sabotage the country just to make Biden look bad.

I heard he pulled out troops from Middle East without warning or chance to prepare for it, so i suppose some people are gonna die... i dont see how he can pin that on Biden tho.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 19, 2020, 02:03:30 PM
The Supreme Court's generally staying out of the cases, leaving them as States' Rights issues (Never thought I'd say "States' Rights" in a positive context...). They acted on one if I recall, and it was a minor change to the proceedings that didn't actually affect the outcome of the race or whether States could certify.

What he's doing in the Middle East and to hamper Biden's transition is definitely worse than these court cases. He's pulling troops out of the Middle East and simultaneously trying to sell F-35 Fighter Jets to the United Arab Emirates, who have been involved in plenty of conflicts over the years, and aren't exactly friends with Iran, who we are currently a bit tense with.

He's either stupid and just sees this as a money grab (Kushner's been pushing for this deal, so I'm assuming the whole family benefits somehow), or he's sabataging Middle East peace talks (Specifically with Iran if I recall? Someone correct me if I'm wrong) to make Biden's job harder out of spite. Or, he sees it as a two-for-one deal. My money's on the latter.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 19, 2020, 02:24:54 PM
A rusty Giuliani returns to the courtroom on Trump's behalf (https://apnews.com/article/rudy-giuliani-returns-courtroom-trump-b81328c5a74ab348d8b7e21f93eed3f9)  (AP)

Quote
"In the plaintiffs' counties, they were denied the opportunity to have an unobstructed observation and ensure opacity," Giuliani said. "I'm not quite sure I know what opacity means. It probably means you can see, right?"

"It means you can't," said U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann.

"Big words, your honor," Giuliani said.

:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on November 19, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 19, 2020, 02:24:54 PM
A rusty Giuliani returns to the courtroom on Trump's behalf (https://apnews.com/article/rudy-giuliani-returns-courtroom-trump-b81328c5a74ab348d8b7e21f93eed3f9)  (AP)

Quote
"In the plaintiffs' counties, they were denied the opportunity to have an unobstructed observation and ensure opacity," Giuliani said. "I'm not quite sure I know what opacity means. It probably means you can see, right?"

"It means you can't," said U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann.

"Big words, your honor," Giuliani said.

:lulz:

Omfg  :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/gop-michigan-results-trump/index.html

Welp, looks like the next step may be a doozy.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/gop-michigan-results-trump/index.html

Welp, looks like the next step may be a doozy.

Except that it isn't.

https://apnews.com/article/detroit-county-election-certification-6ab95edd3373ecc9607381175d6f3328
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 07:09:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/gop-michigan-results-trump/index.html

Welp, looks like the next step may be a doozy.

Except that it isn't.

https://apnews.com/article/detroit-county-election-certification-6ab95edd3373ecc9607381175d6f3328

Quote"There is no legal mechanism for them to rescind their vote. Their job is done, and the next step in the process is for the Board of State Canvassers to meet and certify," said Tracy Wimmer, a spokeswoman for the Michigan secretary of state.

The four-member state board, which is expected to meet Monday, is split with two Democrats and two Republicans — the same makeup as the Wayne County board.

Hmm, two republicans on the state board, too. What are the odds they lack the integrity and spine to stand up to Trump?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on November 20, 2020, 12:00:36 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 19, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/gop-michigan-results-trump/index.html

Welp, looks like the next step may be a doozy.

Except that it isn't.

https://apnews.com/article/detroit-county-election-certification-6ab95edd3373ecc9607381175d6f3328

So the GOP does have a line they wont cross as far as playing the system.  I am surprised.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on November 21, 2020, 07:17:28 AM
The trumpists are making a big deal about this:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/circuitAssignments.aspx

No idea what it means, if anything really.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2020, 08:33:00 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/mike-pence-confirm-biden-then-140043658.html

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 17, 2020, 08:37:41 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mitch-mcconnell-endorses-biden-b1774852.html

QuoteIn an early-morning tweet, Mr Trump shared a news article that featured comments by his supporters criticising the Kentucky lawmaker, who on Tuesday night said the "electoral college has spoken" as it recognised Mr Biden's win.

One of the comments in the piece, re-tweeted by the outgoing president, 74, questions Alabama-born Mr McConnell's allegiance to the United States of America. 

"Mitch McConnell, @senatemajldr is NOT a Patriot," reads one of the comments. "Ask his wife. She knows," it adds, before going on to claim that the 78-year-old lawmaker is "willing to sell America to get what he wants". 
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 22, 2020, 05:41:03 PM
Delicious.   :lulz:

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-conspiracy-theories-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cramulus on December 22, 2020, 05:46:34 PM
QuoteThe person who has the worst job in Washington, according to multiple administration officials: the incoming head of the Justice Department, Jeffrey Rosen.

The consensus is he has no earthly idea the insanity he is in for.
The next month will be the longest of his life.

:lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on January 08, 2021, 11:47:13 PM
Trump has been banned from Twitter.

Permanently (https://twitter.com/twittersafety/status/1347684877634838528?s=21).

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lulz: :fap:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on January 11, 2021, 04:17:35 AM
10 Bucks says Parler is intended to be hosted by VanWatech, the CDN for Daily Stormer, 8Chan/Kun, and QMap after Amazon turns them off at (3?)AM EST tonight.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on January 11, 2021, 06:56:22 PM
Quote from: PoFP on January 11, 2021, 04:17:35 AM
10 Bucks says Parler is intended to be hosted by VanWatech, the CDN for Daily Stormer, 8Chan/Kun, and QMap after Amazon turns them off at (3?)AM EST tonight.

Also, since VanwaTech's* Hosts are now officially in Russia (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/vanwatech/), wouldn't that also mean that Russia would have unfettered access to Personal User Data and ex-US-Military/Active Law Enforcement insider knowledge, and overall Influence power from and over millions of Americans, many of which have just assisted in organizing a coup against the US Government and are ripe for use in further insurgencies?

I NEED AN ADULT  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 11, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
Very probably, but since Parler's users doxxed themselves (https://imgur.com/t/eat_what_you_want/QDewc2e) I doubt they were struggling to get the info in the first place.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Bruno on January 11, 2021, 09:12:21 PM
Evidence of intent, maybe?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on January 11, 2021, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 11, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
Very probably, but since Parler's users doxxed themselves (https://imgur.com/t/eat_what_you_want/QDewc2e) I doubt they were struggling to get the info in the first place.

True :lulz:  - I guess it was the direct influence over Ex-Military and Active Law Enforcement that I was more worried about. They'd have direct jurisdiction over what happens on the site, the information presented, and could more easily access and direct resistance groups and movements based on EM/LE involvement, and take advantage of insider details that they post in what would normally be closed groups, simply because they have direct access to all the data. Ideally, they'd no longer have to get an operative to try and weasel his way into a group (Not that it was hard anyways) or fish for suckers and distribute propaganda. They would be able to orchestrate the flow of information through Idiot America almost programmatically. If they've got Admin access, they could create their own Users with specific access, process post text for keywords and build statistics to get a quantitative analysis of radicalism in public discourse, and amplify that radicalism with targeted Propaganda they feed into whatever groups they want whenever they want. Add in the fact that many of these people they're manipulating might have had Security Clearances and unique military experience, and they can probably start getting Groups created that build military knowledge repositories by asking those users the right questions, all in the name of "Take our country back from the 'Demonrats'".

I mean, is it absurd to suggest that we could start to see highly organized, unregulatable online paramilitary operations in US cities managed directly by Russia if that site becomes part of their jurisdiction?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 13, 2021, 09:50:07 PM
So, Trump was impeached again today.

These 10 republicans decided to stand with actual law and order:

Liz Cheney, WY
Tony Gonzalez, OH
Jaime Herrera-Beutler, WA
John Katko, NY
Adam Kinzinger, Ill.
Peter Meijer, MI
Dan Newhouse, WA
Tom Rice, SC
Fred Upton, MI
David Valadao, CA
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 14, 2021, 04:45:16 AM
Most of those are not really too surprising to me or complete unknowns.

And then there's Tom Rice. WHAT? REALLY?  Who the fuck are the other House Republicans again; Goebbels and Himmler?

Seriously. Tom Fucking Rice. The writer of this season of The Universe is off their fucking Haldol.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: POFP on January 20, 2021, 01:35:39 PM
FUCKING CALLED IT (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9163103/Parlers-new-site-hosted-Russian-owned-company.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR1MgXDxg9kCcHCDC-6yiupch8N48SyvuJ56vXvbGDQW3EZ2n3F3plUB7gs)

Well, partially. I thought they'd go through VanwaTech to get the Hosting, but they decided to go straight to VanwaTech's Host Providers, DDoS-Guard. So it's official. Parler is now hosted on Russian-owned servers, and the Russians now have unmitigated access to an American Right-Wing Conspiracy Propaganda Machine.

This definitely won't have an impact on American politics for decades. At all.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 20, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
Call me paranoid, but what if Trump left early for a reason?

Like a little surprise left behind or some shit?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 20, 2021, 02:10:45 PM
The presidential letter he left behind ticks
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on January 20, 2021, 02:25:24 PM
QuoteAfter uncertainty given his decision to skip the inauguration, a White House spokesman has confirmed that the departing president has left his successor a letter.

Donald Trump had resisted conceding the election until very recently and even in his farewell remarks from the White House did not mention President-elect Joe Biden by name.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: ReverendJesus on January 20, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2021, 02:25:24 PM
QuoteAfter uncertainty given his decision to skip the inauguration, a White House spokesman has confirmed that the departing president has left his successor a letter.

At this point I'm happy he didn't just shit on the Resolute Desk on his way out.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 20, 2021, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: ReverendJesus on January 20, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 20, 2021, 02:25:24 PM
QuoteAfter uncertainty given his decision to skip the inauguration, a White House spokesman has confirmed that the departing president has left his successor a letter.

At this point I'm happy he didn't just shit on the Resolute Desk on his way out.

I'm not. I'm not attached to not having poop on government furniture, on one hand, and on the other, that might be just enough to get the creatures that enabled him to want to stomp on him instead, which we sure could use.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 21, 2021, 12:33:24 AM
So he's not the president any longer, time to unsticky the thread?
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 03:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 21, 2021, 12:33:24 AM
So he's not the president any longer, time to unsticky the thread?

I'm gonna give it a week or two for Trump meltdowns, then it goes to the Peanut Farm, seeing as we don't have a hall of fame subforum.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 21, 2021, 03:56:12 AM
I don't know. Trump's no Dubya. I wouldn't archive it until he's dead or in jail, unless you don't mind pulling it out of the depths a month or three down the line. Also, judging by the Politico reporting on the transition to Biden's team, we might be uncovering Trump habaneros decades from now. He's successfully plugged the fucking administration up, the office for budgeting (name escapes me) isn't even talking to Biden's fucking team, says the transition "is not a priority". It's wild. I've literally /never/ heard of a presidential transition having political bullshit mucking things up.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2021, 08:59:41 AM
What he needs now is to be out of the spotlight which he craves.

This thread was at times a high tension, difficult thread. I am amazed and incredibly happy that America pulled it off on righting that mistake, there are those who may not like the means of how the hole in the boat has been plugged, but its possible to work towards better longer term solution now.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 22, 2021, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 21, 2021, 03:02:45 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 21, 2021, 12:33:24 AM
So he's not the president any longer, time to unsticky the thread?

I'm gonna give it a week or two for Trump meltdowns, then it goes to the Peanut Farm, seeing as we don't have a hall of fame subforum.

Look, the lesson of the era is that it can and will only get funnier. Between upcoming civil and probably criminal lawsuits, random bouts of attention seeking and possible impeachment jazz, this has some legs yet.

Frankly, I don't expect this fun to stop until he is quite dead. And even then, 70/30.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: ReverendJesus on January 26, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2021, 01:02:57 AM
Frankly, I don't expect this fun to stop until he is quite dead. And even then, 70/30.

I for one shall refuse to let his name mean anything but scum, long after he's dead.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on January 31, 2021, 05:50:37 AM
Yep, it's too soon to take this down.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-politics-impeachments-trials-373faf83e36e5fd2e4be1bdf46b406ff

Donald fires defense team a week before impeachment begins.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on January 31, 2021, 08:53:38 PM
What does that put the ex lawyer count at now? Over 10 for sure, over 20 maybe?

When you hit the 15 mark, surely the legal advice you should start getting is just "stop breaking the law, you tit. "
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on January 31, 2021, 11:22:43 PM
Oh my god. He's still trying to push the election fraud line. He's still trying to do it. Oh my god.

I'm torn between "what a fucking moron" and "this is actually the smart move for him given his loony fucking base".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on February 01, 2021, 10:53:54 AM
Yeah, it's completely worthless as a legal defence, but lets be honest, I still don't see the Senate convicting and it sets him up well for the next four years of pretending to be "the real President" at Mar-a-Lago.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Junkenstein on February 04, 2021, 09:23:23 PM
htxxs://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/04/donald-trump-revenge-post-presidency-hobby

Not so much the article, though that will ramp up, possibly severely depending on how the trial goes and its conclusion.

What struck me here is that you can literally replace "trump" with "corrupt" or a minor variation as appropriate and it still reads perfectly well. Then it hit me you could probably do the same for johnson/tories/anyone with power right now and it's going to be pretty accurate.


I'm also now ashamed at how long it has taken to notice this. There's probably at least some personal mileage in replacing a few proper nouns with concepts.


Sent from my chunk of slave labour.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Trivial on March 19, 2021, 03:50:24 AM
https://m.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2021/03/17/tussauds-waxworks-in-san-antonio-removes-trump-figure-because-people-keep-punching-it (https://m.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2021/03/17/tussauds-waxworks-in-san-antonio-removes-trump-figure-because-people-keep-punching-it)
:lulz:
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 18, 2021, 06:08:31 PM
OH HAI

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hard-right-republicans-forming-new-caucus-protect-anglo-saxon-political-n1264338?fbclid=IwAR2rOwmhq08isfkD1ttkAijECyPYekvVp2Mcs1TrpN7oBBF4syc0B70UYN0
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 20, 2021, 10:20:09 AM
Bringing back weregild, fighting with Vikings and promoting monasticism as a valid lifestyle.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2021, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2021, 10:20:09 AM
Bringing back weregild, fighting with Vikings and promoting monasticism as a valid lifestyle.

:lulz:

I think they just mean "white folks".
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Cain on April 20, 2021, 02:57:42 PM
Well that's boring. Wessex LARP or go home.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 31, 2022, 06:40:57 PM
Here we go again.   :lulz:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-shares-article-claiming-brian-kemp-s-massive-victory-in-georgia-was-stolen/ar-AAXVEOz?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=019a1a61398341a39a23b9fd1af4312f
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 31, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
From what I've been seeing, this is the pointy end of the dagger and there's an entire battleship welded on just past the blade. Lots of groundwork laid for this sort of thing in the past 4 months.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 31, 2022, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: altered on May 31, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
From what I've been seeing, this is the pointy end of the dagger and there's an entire battleship welded on just past the blade. Lots of groundwork laid for this sort of thing in the past 4 months.

I think this is actually going to backfire on him.

Which doesn't mean there won't be violence, of course.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: altered on May 31, 2022, 06:54:50 PM
I think violence is becoming my standard expectation at this stage.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 01, 2022, 04:40:22 PM
Quote from: altered on May 31, 2022, 06:54:50 PM
I think violence is becoming my standard expectation at this stage.

Murrikkka(TM)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 03, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Tangentially relevant:

Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 03, 2022, 10:59:27 PM
I'm still waiting for TFG to stroke out, though.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 14, 2023, 11:30:10 AM
Judge orders Trump to attend lecture on how not to violate evidence disclosure rules: report

It appears Judge Merchan is going to give TFG enough rope to hang himself.

Here's the link: https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-protective-order/ (https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-protective-order/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on May 17, 2023, 09:29:48 AM
Here's a lucrative investment opportunity from one of Trump's most unwavering supporters:

'I need help': MyPillow CEO 'offers stock' to recover over $40 million he lost 'trying to overturn the election'

No self-respecting MAGAt should pass up this once in a lifetime chance to get rich quick. I mean, besides TFG, who can run a business more successfully than the My Pillow Guy? And, this upcoming IPO won't be available for very long at its initial offering price.

Here's the link:   https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lindell-mypillow-2660131892/ (https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lindell-mypillow-2660131892/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 01, 2023, 10:51:36 AM
"Trump's Lawyers Start to Wonder if One Could Be a Snitch"

As per the article:

"With three anticipated indictments, two ongoing court cases, and an ever-expanding cadre of lawyers, former President Donald Trump is at a critical juncture—and yet his legal advisers are starting to turn on each other.

According to five sources with direct knowledge of the situation, clashing personalities and the increasing outside threat of law enforcement has sown deep divisions that have only worsened in recent months. The internal bickering has already sparked one departure in recent weeks—and that could be just the beginning.

As Trump's legal troubles keep growing—with criminal and civil investigations in New York City, Washington, and Atlanta—so too does the unwieldy band of attorneys who simply can't get along.

The cast of characters includes an accused meddler who has Trump's ear, a young attorney who lawyers on the team suggested is only there because the former president likes the way she looks, and a celebrity lawyer who's increasingly viewed with disdain. Worst of all, now that federal investigators have turned the interrogation spotlight on some of Trump's lawyers themselves, defense attorneys on the team seem to be questioning whether their colleagues may actually turn into snitches."

This is a fairly long article. However, if you have the time to read it, I believe you'll find it provides an amusing glimpse into some of the palace intrigue TFG has instigated.

Here's the link:   https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-lawyers-start-to-wonder-if-one-could-be-a-snitch?ref=home?ref=home (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-lawyers-start-to-wonder-if-one-could-be-a-snitch?ref=home?ref=home)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 05, 2023, 05:08:07 AM
"Grand jury in Trump classified documents case expected to meet this coming week after hiatus"

As per the article:

"The federal grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the Justice Department's investigation of former President Donald Trump's handling of classified documents is expected to meet again this coming week in Washington, according to multiple people familiar with the investigation."

Further:

"According to reporting from NBC News and other outlets, prosecutors face two central legal questions: 1) Did Trump wrongfully retain classified documents after he left the White House? 2) Did he later obstruct the government's efforts to retrieve them?"

At the time of this post, many legal pundits have already gone on record stating the answer to both questions is definitely "Yes." And, many legal and political pundits are now predicting that this federal grand jury has little more to do in this case, other than to hand down a formal indictment(s).

So, let the next round of indictments begin! I can't wait to see TFG perp-walked, stuffed into an orange jumpsuit, and sent to "The Big House!"
     
Here's the link:   https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/grand-jury-trump-classified-documents-case-expected-meet-coming-week-h-rcna87599 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/grand-jury-trump-classified-documents-case-expected-meet-coming-week-h-rcna87599)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 08, 2023, 09:08:37 AM
Trials and triggers: Psychiatrists warn Trump's psychosis will grow "as he becomes more desperate"

As per the article:

"Trump's behavior is worse now but that's only because we're seeing a peeling away of his façade as he becomes more desperate; his actions and speech will continue to show more of what he really is. He's already saying he will call out the National Guard to suppress dissent, as dictators have done forever, and it would be no surprise if eventually, like Saddam Hussein when he was finally put on trial, he shouts that he is the one true ruler and any effort to hold him accountable is illegal and immoral.

Unfortunately, nations being taken over by psychopathic dictators is common in human history. It happened in Germany, in Iraq, in Russia, and for centuries earlier all over the globe. It could certainly happen to us unless enough people recognize that Trump is psychologically just another Hitler, Stalin, Saddam or the other malignant tyrants throughout history."

Further:

"The picture is clear: As the 2024 presidential campaign begins in earnest, Donald Trump will become more dangerous, violent, threatening, unhinged, and his true horrible self, further unmasked and unleashed if such a thing is even possible."

Two mental health care professionals are quoted in this article. To my surprise, one of them outright labeled TFG as "a permanent, chronic psychopath." So, I may soon have to pay off on a bet I made when I put my money on him simply being a sociopath.   

Here's the link:   https://www.salon.com/2023/06/01/trials-and-triggers-psychiatrists-warn-psychosis-will-grow-as-he-becomes-more-desperate/ (https://www.salon.com/2023/06/01/trials-and-triggers-psychiatrists-warn-psychosis-will-grow-as-he-becomes-more-desperate/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Scribbly on June 08, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
Really not a fan of mental health language being used here.

Trump might be psychotic. He might also just be a bigoted fascist. Psychoanalysing him from a distance is just gross.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 08, 2023, 06:58:56 PM
Quote from: Scribbly on June 08, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
Psychoanalysing him from a distance is just gross.

That is why I was surprised Dr. Lance Dodes publicly diagnosed TFG as "a permanent, chronic psychopath."

I believe Dr. Mary L. Trump, TFG's niece, is more than qualified to offer a diagnosis. But, apparently, she chose not to do so in Too Much and Never Enough. Perhaps she's saving that for another book deal. Or, maybe she considers making such a diagnosis public to be unethical. In either case, I find it hard to believe she hasn't made her own diagnosis.

I doubt TFG will plead "not guilty by reason of mental defect," or something in that vein, in one of his many upcoming court cases. And, although I suspect a diagnosis by a prison mental health care professional would be part of TFG's prison record, and not covered by doctor-patient confidentiality, I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to be made public. So, we may never learn anything about any "up close and personal" diagnoses of TFG.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
I feel perfectly free to make a diagnosis.

He's an asshole, and I don't care why.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Scribbly on June 08, 2023, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
I feel perfectly free to make a diagnosis.

He's an asshole, and I don't care why.

Pretty much this.

I've known people who have a diagnosis of psychosis who I'd call friends and people who pride themselves on their mental health who I'd love to see bleed out in a dark alley for the harm they've done.

Whether or not Trump has any mental health conditions is irrelevant to the far greater problem that he's Trump.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2023, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: Scribbly on June 08, 2023, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 08, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
I feel perfectly free to make a diagnosis.

He's an asshole, and I don't care why.

Pretty much this.

I've known people who have a diagnosis of psychosis who I'd call friends and people who pride themselves on their mental health who I'd love to see bleed out in a dark alley for the harm they've done.

Whether or not Trump has any mental health conditions is irrelevant to the far greater problem that he's Trump.

Yes.  If you are tied to the tracks and a train is coming, does it matter WHY the person who did this to you did it?  It doesn't matter if they're hearing voices in their heads or maybe you just owed them money, the fact is that you're still on the tracks.  For the moment.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 09, 2023, 07:03:27 PM
"Trump valet Walt Nauta charged in special counsel probe: Sources"

As per the article:

"An aide to former President Donald Trump, Walt Nauta, has been charged by the special counsel as part of their probe into Trump's alleged taking of classified information, sources tell ABC News.

Nauta, a former valet in the Trump White House who left his role to join the former president as a personal aide in early 2021, was indicted by the same grand jury in Florida that indicted Trump on Thursday, the sources say.

It is not immediately clear what the exact charges are and an attorney for Nauta declined to comment when contacted by ABC News."

And the hits just keep on comin'!

Here's the link:   https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-valet-walt-nauta-charged-special-counsel-probe/story?id=99962252 (https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-valet-walt-nauta-charged-special-counsel-probe/story?id=99962252)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 11, 2023, 05:37:12 PM
"I don't want to live in a country where Trump could be held accountable"

As per this USA TODAY opinion article:

"It's like America has become a banana republic, as long as you do as I've done and refuse to look up the definition of "banana republic."

Now that my favorite president, Donald Trump, is facing a 37-count indictment from the feds, I join with my brothers and sisters in MAGA, and with all sensible Republicans, in saying this: I'm not sure I want to live in a country where a former president can wave around classified documents he's not supposed to have and say, "This is secret information. Look at this," and then be held accountable for his actions.

I mean, what kind of country have we become? One in which federal prosecutors can take "evidence" before a "grand jury," and that grand jury can "vote to indict" a former president for 37 alleged "crimes"?  Look at all the other people out there in America, including Democrats like Hillary Clinton and President Joe Biden, who HAVEN'T been indicted for crimes on the flimsy excuse that there is no "evidence" they did crimes. THAT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR!"

This opinion article gets even better from there.

Here's the link:   https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/06/11/trump-indictment-classified-documents-evidence-accountability/70307577007/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/06/11/trump-indictment-classified-documents-evidence-accountability/70307577007/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 23, 2023, 07:34:13 AM
"I WON'T SURVIVE! IT'S CLASSIFIED — Trump Vs Jack Smith & his 37 Indictments"

Polyester leisure suits may make a comeback! It's Disco Indictment Time!

Here's the link:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjunFQKuFQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjunFQKuFQ)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 24, 2023, 09:39:57 AM
"Second E. Jean Carroll defamation trial against Trump set for January"

As per the article:

"A federal judge on Thursday set E. Jean Carroll's second defamation trial against former President Donald Trump for early next year.

In a brief scheduling order, U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan said the civil trial will commence on Jan. 15.

Kaplan had granted Carroll's motion to file an amended complaint Tuesday in the still-pending case against Trump seeking new damages of at least $10 million, based in part on comments he made at a CNN town hall last month."

Well, that didn't take long. TFG just can not keep his mouth shut. He's simply incapable of doing so.

Here's the link:   https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/e-jean-carrolls-defamation-trial-trump-set-jan-2024-rcna89615 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/e-jean-carrolls-defamation-trial-trump-set-jan-2024-rcna89615)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on June 26, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
"The Second Indictment of President Donald J. Trump - Epilogue Coin #2"

This coin is being minted to commemorate "A First Moment in American Presidential History." You can pre-order this item from the White House Gift Shop for the regular price of $100.00. And, there's free shipping on orders over $125 US/$175 Worldwide.

Epilogue Coin #2 is "Limited to 7500 Edge Numbered Coins," and is accompanied by a "Certificate of Authenticity with Edition Number." And, its "*Velvet Presentation Case Includes Outer Two-Piece Box with Gold Presidential Seal."

"The White House Gift Shop, Est. 1946
Anticipates Three Coins Will be Created During the Entire Sequence of Legal Events
You Are Purchasing the Second Coin"

This sounds like the perfect gift for the MAGAts in your family, as well as your special MAGAt friends!

Here's the link:   https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/The-Second-Indictment-of-President-Donald-Trump-p/trump-indictment-ii.htm (https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/The-Second-Indictment-of-President-Donald-Trump-p/trump-indictment-ii.htm)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: QuestionsTheSoil on June 27, 2023, 05:03:24 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/donald-trump-miami-versailles-cuban-restaurant-pay (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/donald-trump-miami-versailles-cuban-restaurant-pay)
This might be good for one of those metaphors or what have ya
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 05, 2023, 10:23:52 AM
"Trump sets aside $5.5 million in first step to satisfy E. Jean Carroll judgment"

As per the article:

"Lawyers for Donald Trump asked a judge on Friday to sign off on an agreement with E. Jean Carroll's attorneys to transfer $5.5 million to a court-controlled account in a step toward satisfying the judgment from the defamation lawsuit.

The agreement is Trump's first step toward paying Carroll after a jury awarded her $5 million in damages after finding Trump sexually abused and defamed Carroll. Courts often require 111% of an award while a judgment is on appeal."

That's gotta hurt TFG in the ol' wallet. Now, he's gotta grift even more money from the MAGAts just to cover this loss. I wonder if he'll try to write this lawsuit settlement off as a business expense. I mean, it's not like that sort of thing hasn't already happened.

Here's the link:   https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 08, 2023, 09:10:00 AM
"Former White House press secretary: Trump was 'loose' with secrets"

As per the article:

"Stephanie Grisham, former Communications Director and Press Secretary under ex-president Donald Trump, told MSNBC's Alex Witt that Trump had shown classified documents to visitors at Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach resort. "I watched him show documents to people at Mar-a-Lago on the dining room patio," Grisham said. "So he has no respect for classified information. Never did."

As part of the same segment — which MSNBC has posted online — Trump's former press secretary also said that he was "loose" with sensitive documents. Grisham added that the former president's willingness to share classified information with those who haven't received security clearance is "a disservice to the country, but it also puts people in danger potentially.""

This is a long article, but it containing an impressive list of additional times TFG was careless with national security information.

Here's the link:   https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/former-white-house-press-secretary-trump-was-loose-secrets-rcna92414 (https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/former-white-house-press-secretary-trump-was-loose-secrets-rcna92414)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 11, 2023, 09:31:41 AM
"Trump Pressured Former Arizona Governor to Overturn 2020 Results: Report"

As per the article:

"Former President Donald Trump called then-Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey to pressure him to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in the state, saying that if enough fraudulent votes were found it would negate Trump's narrow loss, according to a new report from The Washington Post.

Sources told the Post that Trump also enlisted then-Vice President Mike Pence to call Ducey to encourage him to find evidence backing Trump's false claims of election fraud. Pence reportedly called Ducey several times about the election, but did not heed Trump's wishes to pressure the governor, the publication reported.

Ducey told a donor earlier this year that he was under "pressure" after Trump's election loss. He added that he was surprised special counsel Jack Smith's team did not inquire about the phone calls during its investigation into Trump's endeavor to overturn the 2020 election.""

There are no real surprises here. This article doesn't confirm it, but I suspect the United States Department of Justice has been on top of this for a long time.

Here's the link:   https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-pressured-doug-ducey-former-arizona-governor-overturn-2020-election-report-1234782245/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-pressured-doug-ducey-former-arizona-governor-overturn-2020-election-report-1234782245/)

And, here's the link to the original paywalled The Washington Post article:   https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/01/trump-2020-election-arizona-governor-doug-ducey/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/01/trump-2020-election-arizona-governor-doug-ducey/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 16, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
"Trump Questions Whether Ocean Could 'Someday' Reach Las Vegas In Wild Clip"

As per the article:

"Former President Donald Trump declared that Las Vegas could "maybe someday" have an ocean before a crowd broke out into cheers at a campaign stop on Saturday.

Trump, while discussing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' request for an endorsement in his state's election, reflected on his love for the Sunshine State before comparing it to the Nevada community.

"And remember, Florida's easier than other places, you have the ocean and you have the sun. There's something about that that works. But – you have the sun, too, but you don't have the ocean, I can tell. You definitely don't have the ocean. Maybe someday you'll have the ocean, you never know," said Trump, who made a motion with his hand before the crowd applauded him.""

Now, Las Vegas is about 2,000 ft. above sea level. So, even with the current, accelerated rate of global warming, having an ocean there is going to take a while. At first, I was mystified as to why the MAGAts would cheer a statement like that from TFG. But now, I've concluded it's about THEM wanting to immanentize the eschaton.

Here's the link:   https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ocean-las-vegas_n_64aa2d85e4b0e87d6554edc4 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ocean-las-vegas_n_64aa2d85e4b0e87d6554edc4)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 19, 2023, 07:37:16 AM
"Experts: Jack Smith's latest move means Trump can't use Judge Cannon to prevent pre-election trial"

As per the article:

"Legal experts expect Donald Trump to be indicted in the Justice Department's Jan. 6 probe after he received a target letter from special counsel Jack Smith's team, predicting it will blow up the former president's attempts to delay his federal proceedings until after the 2024 election."

Further in the article:

""This indictment will likely be brought in D.C. federal court, which means that the importance of Judge Aileen Cannon's rulings in the Mar-a-Lago case are diminished." MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin agreed that the implication of the likely indictment in D.C. is that even "if Cannon caves to Trump's demands not to set ANY trial date, she now can't single-handedly prevent a federal trial before Election Day."

So, more than ever, it appears clear that Special Counsel Jack Smith and his team have always been several steps ahead of TFG, his lawyers, and his numerous Republiculttm allies. Yea team! 

Here's the link:   https://www.salon.com/2023/07/18/experts-jack-smiths-latest-move-means-cant-use-cannon-to-prevent-pre-trial/ (https://www.salon.com/2023/07/18/experts-jack-smiths-latest-move-means-cant-use-cannon-to-prevent-pre-trial/)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 22, 2023, 07:18:48 AM
"Israel Struggling to Recover Ancient Artifacts Trump Took to Mar-a-Lago: Report"

As per the article:

"Israel lent several antiquities to the White House in 2019, including ancient clay lamps for a White House Hanukkah event. Unfortunately, Donald Trump was president at the time, which means the artifacts are now at Mar-a-Lago, and Israel can't figure out how to get them back, Haaretz reported on Tuesday.

The artifacts were only supposed to be in Washington, D.C., for a few weeks. Israel Hasson, then the director of the Israeli Antiquities Authority, told Haaretz that because they are so valuable, he wanted someone to pick them up instead of having them shipped overseas. The pandemic derailed these plans, and the artifacts remained in the White House. Israeli authorities learned several months ago that they wound up at Mar-a-Lago.

Eli Eskozido, who took over for Hasson at the Israeli Antiquities Authority, has solicited the help of the Israeli government and Trump's former U.S. ambassador to the nation in his efforts to retrieve the artifacts — to no avail."

Seriously, is there anything TFG won't steal?

Here's the link:   https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-struggling-recover-ancient-artifacts-130445035.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-struggling-recover-ancient-artifacts-130445035.html)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on July 28, 2023, 11:03:21 AM
"Trump, aide face additional charges in classified documents case as 3rd defendant is added"

As per the article:

"Former President Donald Trump and two others are facing additional charges in special counsel Jack Smith's investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents after leaving office.

The charges came in a superseding indictment returned by a grand jury in the Southern District of Florida that adds one defendant and four charges to the prior indictment filed against Trump and aide Walt Nauta.

The new charges include allegations involving the handling of surveillance footage and charges related to Trump's unauthorized possession of a document that he was previously heard discussing on an audio recording.

Carlos De Oliveira, a current Trump Organization employee who sources tell ABC News is the head of maintenance at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate, has been added to the obstruction conspiracy charged in the original indictment."

For TFG and his minions, the hits just keep on comin'! And, "superseding indictment" is a term I expect to hear a lot more in the coming months.

Here's the link:   https://abcnews.go.com/US/mar-lago-staffer-charged-special-counsels-classified-documents/story?id=101741061 (https://abcnews.go.com/US/mar-lago-staffer-charged-special-counsels-classified-documents/story?id=101741061)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on August 08, 2023, 11:59:56 AM
"Trump lawyers claim Biden's 'Dark Brandon' mug was 'thinly-veiled' effort to taunt client over prosecution"

As per the article:

"Former President Donald Trump's legal team filed a response on Monday afternoon to special counsel Jack Smith's request for a protective order that would limit what the former president can say about the criminal trial against him. They broadly oppose the order, attacking it as an attempt to limit Trump's political speech.

But one bizarre claim in particular made it into the filing: That President Joe Biden used a mug to taunt Trump about the charges against him.

"President Biden has ... capitalized on the indictment, posting a thinly veiled reference to his administration's prosecution of President Trump just hours before arraignment," said the filing."

I checked and, sure enough, an image from Biden's YouTube video is right there on page 3 of the formal "RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO GOVERNMENT'S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER." So, if the the lawyers who prepared this "formal response" are the best TFG could hire, perhaps he really should consider switching to an insanity defense. 

Here's the link to the article:    https://www.rawstory.com/dark-brandon/ (https://www.rawstory.com/dark-brandon/)

And, here's the link to the actual YouTube video:   https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pCZNz1h7ixM (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pCZNz1h7ixM)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: QuestionsTheSoil on August 25, 2023, 11:41:42 PM
Dump Mugshot memes (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594174990048559124/1144693348205072405/01A11F2A-0ACE-493A-BF53-BB697951C859.jpg?width=471&height=468)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1144693348402217070/1144703606277279834/image0.jpg?width=498&height=468)
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Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 01, 2023, 09:50:09 AM
"Trump co-defendant takes plea deal, agrees to testify in Georgia election case"

As per the article:

"One of former President Donald Trump's co-defendants charged in the Georgia election interference case is taking a plea deal in which he will agree to testify against others in the case.

Scott Hall appeared Friday in court for what Judge Scott McAfee said was a "negotiated resolution.""

This is the first plea deal in the Georgia election case, but it's unlikely to be the last. There are still seventeen (17) other co-defendants out there, some of whom might wish to make a deal in exchange for a lesser sentence. So, it's once again time to top off the ol' popcorn silo.


Here's the link:   https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-defendant-charged-georgia-election-interference-case-takes/story?id=103610288 (https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-defendant-charged-georgia-election-interference-case-takes/story?id=103610288)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on October 11, 2023, 07:12:39 AM
"Trump Brags He's Got More Indictments Than Mob Boss Al Capone"

As per the article:

TFG said, "This was a seriously tough mobster. He was the, I guess you'd call him the king of the mobsters, right? Al Capone only got indicted once. I got indicted four times in mine."

The article doesn't say, but I suspect the MAGAts applauded their savior's brag.

Here's the link:   https://crooksandliars.com/2023/10/trump-brags-hes-got-more-indictments-mob (https://crooksandliars.com/2023/10/trump-brags-hes-got-more-indictments-mob)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on November 07, 2023, 05:29:24 AM
"Trump Enrages Judge as He Boils Over on the Witness Stand"

"At one point, a frustrated Judge Arthur Engoron ordered a 15-minute recess so Trump's legal team could coach him on proper courtroom behavior."

As per the article:

"When Donald Trump took the stand Monday in his $250 million fraud trial, the twice-impeached ex-president played all the hits. He was occasionally flustered, sometimes confused, often combative, and deflected any accusations whatsoever of wrongdoing, serving up boasts about his business acumen and real estate portfolio of what he described as the world's finest properties.

Trump veered wildly off-script, insulted New York Attorney General Letitia James, demeaned the judge, whined that the trial was "very unfair," and insisted that no one with money to lend should ever believe the Trump Organization's own financial statements. Confronted with conflicting data in documents that seemed to point to inflated values of a New York City property, Trump dissembled before sulking, "This is so crazy."

He also tested the judge's patience from the get-go, drawing numerous rebukes for not answering yes-or-no questions with a simple "yes" or "no.""

So far, the only real surprise is that TFG hasn't been charged with contempt of court. Still, this particular trial isn't over yet.

Here's the link:   https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-takes-the-stand-in-his-new-york-fraud-trial?ref=home?ref=home (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-takes-the-stand-in-his-new-york-fraud-trial?ref=home?ref=home)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on December 02, 2023, 10:06:34 AM
"Attorney warned Trump 'it's going to be a crime' if he didn't comply with subpoena for classified docs: Sources"

"Trump attorney Jennifer Little spoke with federal investigators, sources said."

As per the article:

"One of former president Donald Trump's current attorneys told special counsel Jack Smith's team that, within days of the Justice Department issuing a subpoena last year for all classified documents at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate, she "very clearly" warned Trump that if he failed to fully comply -- but then swore he did -- "it's going to be a crime," according to sources familiar with the matter.

Sources said the lawyer, Jennifer Little, told investigators Trump "absolutely" understood the warning, which came during a pivotal meeting at Mar-a-Lago with Trump and another attorney, Evan Corcoran, who had recently joined Trump's legal team."

This is a long article, but I thought it was well worth the read.

Here's the link:   Trump Attorney's Smoking Gun Testimony (https://abcnews.go.com/US/attorney-warned-trump-crime-comply-subpoena-classified-docs/story?id=105228569)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on January 04, 2024, 01:29:07 PM
"'Uh-oh': Psychic on Fox News pulls the Grim Reaper card for Trump"

Jesse Watters took a break from dealing in conspiracy theories on his prime-time show for an awkward moment with a psychic.

I think this clearly fall into the category: "If You Won't Like the Answer, Don't Ask the Question." And, this answer does not at all sound like it was very welcome to the Fox News Noise propagandist.

As per this article:

"In between peddling conspiracy theories and seeming to advocate violence on his show, Fox News host Jesse Watters has had no shortage of odd moments since taking over Tucker Carlson's prime-time slot in July.

On Tuesday night, he had another awkward moment when he brought out a psychic, Paula Roberts, to do a tarot card reading for Donald Trump, telling her to select a single card. Roberts, a self-described clairvoyant and ghost hunter, then pulled out the Grim Reaper card."

And, believe it or not, the tarot card reading got even worse from there. Now, I know nothing about tarot cards, but I found this whole incident to be hilarious.

Here's a link:      Psychic Predicts Bad News for TFG (https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/fox-news-trump-psychic-jesse-watters-rcna132080)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 04, 2024, 08:10:44 PM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on January 04, 2024, 01:29:07 PM
"'Uh-oh': Psychic on Fox News pulls the Grim Reaper card for Trump"

Jesse Watters took a break from dealing in conspiracy theories on his prime-time show for an awkward moment with a psychic.

I think this clearly fall into the category: "If You Won't Like the Answer, Don't Ask the Question." And, this answer does not at all sound like it was very welcome to the Fox News Noise propagandist.

As per this article:

"In between peddling conspiracy theories and seeming to advocate violence on his show, Fox News host Jesse Watters has had no shortage of odd moments since taking over Tucker Carlson's prime-time slot in July.

On Tuesday night, he had another awkward moment when he brought out a psychic, Paula Roberts, to do a tarot card reading for Donald Trump, telling her to select a single card. Roberts, a self-described clairvoyant and ghost hunter, then pulled out the Grim Reaper card."

And, believe it or not, the tarot card reading got even worse from there. Now, I know nothing about tarot cards, but I found this whole incident to be hilarious.

Here's a link:      Psychic Predicts Bad News for TFG (https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/fox-news-trump-psychic-jesse-watters-rcna132080)

That card is called "death" not the grim reaper, and it represents a dramatic change, a break from the old way of things and the birth of new.  It isn't positive or negative by default,  depends on the context.  (I've been reading tarot since I was a child, and was professional for several years)
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on January 04, 2024, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on January 04, 2024, 08:10:44 PM

That card is called "death" not the grim reaper, and it represents a dramatic change, a break from the old way of things and the birth of new.  It isn't positive or negative by default,  depends on the context.  (I've been reading tarot since I was a child, and was professional for several years)

The following correction has been issued since I first posted this article:

"CORRECTION (Jan. 4, 2024, 1:18 p.m. ET): A previous version of this article, in a headline and text, misstated the tarot card that was drawn. It was the Five of Cups, not the Grim Reaper."

So, how do you interpret drawing the Five of Cups for TFG?

And, as per further along in the original article:

"Watters also asked Roberts to do a one-card reading for President Joe Biden, and she pulled out the Nine of Pentacles card.

"Lots and lots and lots and lots of money. Lots of money," she says, to which Watters responds: "From China?""

And so, in this particular case, how do you interpret drawing the Nine of Pentacles for President Joe Biden?

As I've already written, I know nothing about tarot. But, I have studied the I Ching for many years. So, even being a natural skeptic, I take the divinations of the I Ching very seriously. Therefore, I have no basis for believing that other worthy methods of divination do not also exist.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Pergamos on January 05, 2024, 04:16:59 AM
It depends on the deck, there's a few different ways to assign meaning to the cards, the five of cups usually means disappointment and frustration with your failures that keeps you from realizing you have successes as well.  I'd read that as he loses the election but doesn't go to prison, and whines like crazy. 

9 of pentacles meanwhile usually means a harvest that comes from investment of time and effort.  I'd read that as Biden wins the election because he's put the work in to do so, particularly after the 5 of cups for Trump.

For context I have been thinking logically that Trump is going to win, so that reading goes against my logical read of the situation, but that looks like what the cards say.

9 of Pents can mean lots of money, but that's usually in a context involving investment, or business decisions.
Title: Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
Post by: Brother Mythos on January 05, 2024, 06:16:14 AM
Thanks for your interpretations.

From what you have described, I suspect that tarot readings and I Ching consultations do not work in the same way. Then again, I can't think of any good reason why they should be expected to work in the same way.