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Cain called it. Greece defaults.

Started by Doktor Howl, July 01, 2015, 01:49:49 AM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Warren EllisWatching the economic disaster in Greece unfold, particularly over the last days and weeks, I have become nervous about something closer to home.  The concept of a Greek exit from the European Union is referred to as Grexit.  The idea of the UK leaving is called Brexit.  The case for Britain staying in the Union is strong and manifold.  But I grow increasingly nervous that it won't matter.  Because the Out vote here in Britain will only have to point at the carceral economics being aimed at Greece and the obvious intent of many in the European governing system to turn it into a client state.  The message is clear: if you stumble, the shackles will be clapped on where you lay.  And because of that, I believe, soon, I will no longer be a European.  And that bothers me.
Molon Lube

Cain

#31
Yeah, Cameron is playing so many fucking dangerous games I'm surprised that our American friends did not overly intervene in the previous election against him.

If the UK exits from the EU, it means America loses a powerful ally in the EU.  It is also strongly opposed by several major industries, including the financial sector (the UK's lax financial controls and access to Europe make it a favourite stopping off point for Chinese, Russian, Arab and African ruling elites).  Loss of that financial revenue will impact on other UK industries, weakening the UK economy and viability as an economic partner.

Meanwhile, Cameron is also intent on pissing off Scotland to the point of wanting to leave.  Scotland's loss will undermine the UK's national strategic pose, especially with regard to airbases and nuclear weapons, and will also have an economic impact.  This will reduce the UK's viability as a NATO partner, already under scrutiny after the lacklustre performance in Libya.

Faust

Some of my Scottish friends were fuming. This budget they said was a typical Tory mugging and is applied to their entire country, despite the fact that only a single Tory minister represents the whole of Scotland. I haven't seen what the budget is yet but it wouldn't surprise me.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Cain

Quote from: Faust on July 08, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
Some of my Scottish friends were fuming. This budget they said was a typical Tory mugging and is applied to their entire country, despite the fact that only a single Tory minister represents the whole of Scotland. I haven't seen what the budget is yet but it wouldn't surprise me.

Tax cuts for everyone and fuck the poor.

Also the BBC is getting thrown under a bus, for being insufficiently pro-Tory.

Faust

Maybe Doctor who will be better. It and Hellblazer were their best when Thatcher was in power.

Ryanair call the Greek leadership Lunatics, I suppose when they rely just as much on the tourism trade in Greece they are going to have hurt feelings.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Demolition Squid

The proposed increase to the minimum wage would be nice...

... if there was any indication it was going to happen and they weren't just throwing it out there to score points against Labour. 2020 for a £2 rise? Are you fucking kidding me?
Vast and Roaring Nipplebeast from the Dawn of Soho

Cain

Quote from: Demolition Squid on July 08, 2015, 10:28:39 PM
The proposed increase to the minimum wage would be nice...

... if there was any indication it was going to happen and they weren't just throwing it out there to score points against Labour. 2020 for a £2 rise? Are you fucking kidding me?

That and the benefits budget cuts are also going to hit those in work and on low incomes.

But hey, below-inflation minimum wage hikes!  The government is finally treating the rest of the country in the shame shitty way it has been abusing the Civil Service for the past five years.

MMIX

And the Greek Tragedy just grinds on and on. I have the BBC News channel on in the background. I'm sure they keep talking about "Greece's creditors" but it sure as fuck sounds like Greece's predators
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P3nT4gR4m

"capitalism" "cannibalism" getting harder to tell which is which these days

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 11, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
"capitalism" "cannibalism" getting harder to tell which is which these days

Not surprising, when you consider that Mr. Peanut is a peanut who is trying to sell you other peanuts to devour. He's even got a bourgeois little hat, cane, and monocle.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on August 12, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 11, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
"capitalism" "cannibalism" getting harder to tell which is which these days

Not surprising, when you consider that Mr. Peanut is a peanut who is trying to sell you other peanuts to devour. He's even got a bourgeois little hat, cane, and monocle.

I have never noticed that.

But it makes me think Charley the Tuna is America's libertarians.
Molon Lube