I don't know about you guys, but I'm probably living in an information bubble. My facebook and tumblr feed are filled with progressive memes which make a silly caricature out of the conservatives and libertarians.
The other day, a libertarian friend* popped the bubble by posting a riff on the "Jesus is a socialist" meme...
*this guy is a small-gov libertarian who is employed by the TSA... wrap your head around that one
(http://i.imgur.com/YiLoItj.jpg)
It made me curious to see some conservative/libertarian image-memes or political cartoons which are caricatures of great left-wing stuff I agree with.
What can you find?
I have at least one Libertarian, one Conservative, and one wanna-be Redneck as FB friends. I see memes I disagree with all the time. I'll repost a few below.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12928431_1171483079537473_2556250016356728423_n.jpg?oh=73fe7f2988c5f3b008d5034dd338bdf6&oe=577DA515)
Granted, some of these aren't very political...
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12376628_1068276893235572_674873666782733239_n.jpg?oh=6fefa1af9770330c2f6b34fb3076dda9&oe=5791ADE6)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/10364141_998045230302452_4157537105173584509_n.jpg?oh=0fcf3b81f4759489cb8e19a3ffe0ac7c&oe=577BC113)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/523722_3421557312476_1176703173_n.jpg?oh=7efcf5bac88b8efd2329d34e1971dbed&oe=5783B995)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/551864_3290091345909_1286780814_n.jpg?oh=9ff2daf69451316d704e2fff1b8d2472&oe=57773C62)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/536330_2853492751217_1330293324_n.jpg?oh=3dbdae1f6acac0098d4860df14d78984&oe=577ECDA4)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11141118_10206401008406660_4967222930400965482_n.jpg?oh=db6d3652817d03066b5218b4e7fbf04b&oe=57812A37)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/543912_4997372334708_450968939_n.jpg?oh=dad62c02122547928c48e435d3f59619&oe=578B6B6E)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/534052_3643003322570_1849770418_n.jpg?oh=f742edfbe48bff36f36c99c1062975c0&oe=5774C537)
I don't think I could be friends with the people that posted a couple of those.
FB friends, not IRL.
Though one of them is my Brother-in-Law. Kind of hard to get around that one.
Quote from: LMNO on March 29, 2016, 06:13:25 PM
FB friends, not IRL.
Though one of them is my Brother-in-Law. Kind of hard to get around that one.
Not really. I don't even talk to my actual siblings, because numbers 2, 3, and 5 are the kind of shit they post.
(http://i.imgur.com/ucBZUia.png)
Huuurrrrrrk, yeah, that's the stuff
I knew ewww reddit and all, but r/forwardsfromgrandma/ intentionally collects things like this.
And /r/worldnews actually believes them (incidentally, they're discussing 9/11 being an inside job. Again).
Quote from: Cain on March 29, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
And /r/worldnews actually believes them (incidentally, they're discussing 9/11 being an inside job. Again).
Should we flood with "Doctrine of the Minimum Viable Truth"?
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 29, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 29, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
And /r/worldnews actually believes them (incidentally, they're discussing 9/11 being an inside job. Again).
Should we flood with "Doctrine of the Minimum Viable Truth"?
I was linked via SubredditDrama, so no pissing in my popcorn for me, sadly. But if you wanted to mention it... (https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4ccwsc/2nd_major_skyscraper_fire_in_3_months_uae/d1h2w6i)
Quote from: Cain on March 29, 2016, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 29, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 29, 2016, 06:58:10 PM
And /r/worldnews actually believes them (incidentally, they're discussing 9/11 being an inside job. Again).
Should we flood with "Doctrine of the Minimum Viable Truth"?
I was linked via SubredditDrama, so no pissing in my popcorn for me, sadly. But if you wanted to mention it... (https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4ccwsc/2nd_major_skyscraper_fire_in_3_months_uae/d1h2w6i)
Looks like they're doing an okay job policing the crazies. Best part:
QuoteWhat are you, a infrastructure collapse enthusiast?
I am stealing the fuck outta that, try and stop me.
Sigh.
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
Sigh.
There is nothing so amazing as watching 80% of FB (it seems) arguing against getting a raise.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 04, 2016, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
Sigh.
There is nothing so amazing as watching 80% of FB (it seems) arguing against getting a raise.
That communism memebomb the US dropped back in the 50's caused a lot of brain damage. We're still breathing in the fallout. It also left an unsecured port in the thinking mechanism. I've seen everyone from men in the pub to politicians using it to lead an audience by the nose.
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
Sigh.
What amuses me with this is if you run it in reverse order with "yeah that makes sense" under the cop, it's hilarious.
I can't believe you need to pay police anywhere near that much to pull the bullshit they do. It's hardly like you can argue that quality wages get quality people in this instance.
I'll be here all day, folks.
And another.
Profound isn't it?
I guess it's good to know that in the Meme Wars, one side will be going in with some pretty terrible equipment.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on April 07, 2016, 01:30:20 PM
Profound isn't it?
I guess it's good to know that in the Meme Wars, one side will be going in with some pretty terrible equipment.
That was my initial reaction. It's impressive how much idiotic crap has the balls to claim profundity without any trace of original thinking to be seen.
But.... these people are posting them unironically.
Profound, isn't it?
Quote from: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 01:40:19 PM
But.... these people are posting them unironically.
Right, but they're brandishing sticks while thinking they've got grenade launchers. It's a joke to everyone but those who already agree with it.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/welfare-flag-burners_zpsltdy9rj3.jpg) (http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/illegalPance_zpsuz0crsp0.png)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/NursingHomePrisoners_zps36e1ewys.jpg) (http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/clintonOsama_zpsqvuq85g2.jpg) (http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/ObamaTrumpRacist_zpst7vpwsaf.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/IllegalFishingImmigrants_zpsfwdzls5s.jpg) (http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/LegalizeSin_zpsrdfasok7.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/TweetyHatesMuslims_zpsfnoyt6ki.jpg) (http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/ChickenCops_zpstbot34ux.jpg)
I never knew cartoon birds were so "conservative". :?
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/illegalPance_zpsuz0crsp0.png)
Somewhat unrelated, but I just don't understand this at all.
From what I know, if I was a young black guy in the US, I would be highly reluctant to wear my pants in a way that makes running away a huge ballache. You literally never know when an armed police officer might try and kill your or your friends. Standing around doesn't ensure you don't get shot, surrendering is not guarantee either. Shooting back results in massive escalation, so that really just leaves "Fucking Run" as your only practical option.
The pragmatism of it, or the cultural signaling?
As a white guy, I naturally checked Snopes as to its significance.
http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp
QuoteSagging pants became the behind-the-bars thing thanks to ill-fitting prison-issue garb: some of those incarcerated were provided with clothing a few sizes too large. That oversizing, coupled with the lack of belts in the big house, led to a great number of jailbirds whose pants were falling off their arses. (Belts are not permitted in most correctional facilities because all too often the lifeless bodies of their inmate owners have been found hanging from them.)
That's not sourced, so I can't speak to its validity.
As far as I can tell, they do it just because it pisses people off. The trend is on the decline, though. The new thing seems to be wearing multiple caps stacked on top of each other.
Another theory: They're using "cultural appropriation" to their advantage to see what kind of stupid shit they can get white people to do.
Quote from: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 04:22:26 PM
The pragmatism of it, or the cultural signaling?
As a white guy, I naturally checked Snopes as to its significance.
http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp
QuoteSagging pants became the behind-the-bars thing thanks to ill-fitting prison-issue garb: some of those incarcerated were provided with clothing a few sizes too large. That oversizing, coupled with the lack of belts in the big house, led to a great number of jailbirds whose pants were falling off their arses. (Belts are not permitted in most correctional facilities because all too often the lifeless bodies of their inmate owners have been found hanging from them.)
That's not sourced, so I can't speak to its validity.
Both, I guess. That was my first resort as well and I regarded it as a relatively large heap of nonsense founded with racism. Howard's second theory does strike me as quite possible though. Certainly more plausible than the above.
This is all getting a bit painful. I usually scroll by and put it out of my mind.
The Tweety one disturbs me so much. It's coming from the same people who regulalry post tweety memes which are usually apolitical but just as pathetic.
Then there's this.
(http://i.imgur.com/xOAiGYK.jpg)
LEAVE TWEETY ALONE!
The only game is Ender's Game.
Quote from: Steven Erikson, The Dust of Dreams'Stupid Bolkando. What value fielding an army that crawls like a bhederin with its legs cut off? We could dance round it and strike straight for the capital. I could drag that King off his throne and plant myself in it sloppy as a drunk, and that would be that.'
He snorted. 'Generals and commanders understand nothing. They think a battle answers everything, like fists in an alley. Coltaine knew better—war is the means, not the end—the goal is not to wage slaughter—it is to achieve domination in the bargaining that follows.'
'Murrica.
WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH TWEETY BIRD? I seriously do not understand why truck owners obsess over him.
While looking into this, I did find something interesting:
QuoteFreleng's cartoon, Show Biz Bugs (1957), with Daffy Duck vying with Bugs Bunny for theatre audience appreciation, was arguably a template for the enormously successful format to The Bugs Bunny Show that premiered on television in the autumn of 1960. Further, Freleng directed the cartoons with the erudite and ever so polite Goofy Gophers encountering the relentless wheels of human industry, them being I Gopher You (1954) and Lumber Jerks (1955), and he also directed three cartoons (sponsored by the right-wing Alfred P. Sloan Foundation) extolling the virtues of free-market capitalism, said cartoons being By Word of Mouse (1954), Heir-Conditioned (1955), and Yankee Dood It (1956), all three of which involved Sylvester.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_P._Sloan#Nazi_collaboration
(http://i.imgur.com/HIEfpVB.jpg)
Or, more accurately:
"Lets go kill someone who's not a socialist, so our dumbass great grandkids can elect someone who isn't a socialist."
Hang on. Is that pic suggesting that Hitler was a socialist? waaaaaaat
Oh yeah. It's quite a common theme, especially among libertarians, who conflate nationalism, statism, the welfare state, socialism, laws against diddling children etc as all, somehow, being Nazism. Which is a form of socialism.
Bernie Sanders also isn't a socialist, but shhhhh.
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2016, 10:14:57 PM
Oh yeah. It's quite a common theme, especially among libertarians, who conflate nationalism, statism, the welfare state, socialism, laws against diddling children etc as all, somehow, being Nazism. Which is a form of socialism.
Bernie Sanders also isn't a socialist, but shhhhh.
Christ, what a bunch of assholes.
(https://www.facebook.com/RangerUpFanPage/photos/a.189343119149.127966.16657934149/10153654722749150/?type=3)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/SpeakEnglishDaffy_zpsthm1rwr8.jpg)
Ok, I can actually see this coming from Daffy. He's always been kind of a d-bag.
Still, this correlation between Warner Bros cartoon characters and dickbag political messages is oddly interesting.
The only connection I can see is that the ideas expressed in them are cartoonishly simple.
Might I suggest we start a facebook, ummm... thingie where cartoon characters present complex nuances of global socio-politics?
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 11, 2016, 06:44:39 PM
The only connection I can see is that the ideas expressed in them are cartoonishly simple.
Might I suggest we start a facebook, ummm... thingie where cartoon characters present complex nuances of global socio-politics?
That would be awesome. And possibly informative.
Quote from: Cain on April 11, 2016, 06:18:18 PM
Still, this correlation between Warner Bros cartoon characters and dickbag political messages is oddly interesting.
Maybe it's a generational backlash that's been, like most of the rest of the memes, ineptly executed? Like they see Spongebob and Fry used in memes and they want to show these damned kids what a real cartoon was, back in their day.
Or they're the logical conclusion of Calvin peeing on Ford logos on the back of 90's Chevy trucks.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on April 11, 2016, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 11, 2016, 06:18:18 PM
Still, this correlation between Warner Bros cartoon characters and dickbag political messages is oddly interesting.
Maybe it's a generational backlash that's been, like most of the rest of the memes, ineptly executed? Like they see Spongebob and Fry used in memes and they want to show these damned kids what a real cartoon was, back in their day.
Or they're the logical conclusion of Calvin peeing on Ford logos on the back of 90's Chevy trucks.
Probably the latter.
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4309715.jpg)
This one's amusingly recursive.
I hope you don't mind, Cain, but I threw together a Tweety Bird meme using a quote from one of your posts from the "Picking Cain's Brains" thread, slightly modified.
If you would rather I hadn't, let me know, and I will trash it. Just wanted a quick example of what something like that might look like.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/TweetyMemeFacedook1%20copy_zpsglgkh3qm.jpg)
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 12, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
I hope you don't mind, Cain, but I threw together a Tweety Bird meme using a quote from one of your posts from the "Picking Cain's Brains" thread, slightly modified.
If you would rather I hadn't, let me know, and I will trash it. Just wanted a quick example of what something like that might look like.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/TweetyMemeFacedook1%20copy_zpsglgkh3qm.jpg)
Nice. Now we're getting somewhere.
aaahah I love the subversion of using Tweety to deliver that kind of message.
We need some media meta-commentary or deconstruction or something coming out of Maxine's mouth.
Just as early industrial capitalism moved the focus of
existence from being to having, post-industrial culture hasmoved that
focus from having to appearing.
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(http://explore.hallmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/john-wagner-old-lady-482.png)
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 12, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
I hope you don't mind, Cain, but I threw together a Tweety Bird meme using a quote from one of your posts from the "Picking Cain's Brains" thread, slightly modified.
If you would rather I hadn't, let me know, and I will trash it. Just wanted a quick example of what something like that might look like.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/TweetyMemeFacedook1%20copy_zpsglgkh3qm.jpg)
I love the shit out of this. It fills me with glee.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 12, 2016, 08:30:40 PM
aaahah I love the subversion of using Tweety to deliver that kind of message.
We need some media meta-commentary or deconstruction or something coming out of Maxine's mouth.
Just as early industrial capitalism moved the focus of
existence from being to having, post-industrial culture has moved that
focus from having to appearing.
\
(http://explore.hallmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/john-wagner-old-lady-482.png)
Awesome.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 12, 2016, 08:30:40 PM
aaahah I love the subversion of using Tweety to deliver that kind of message.
We need some media meta-commentary or deconstruction or something coming out of Maxine's mouth.
Just as early industrial capitalism moved the focus of
existence from being to having, post-industrial culture hasmoved that
focus from having to appearing.
\
(http://explore.hallmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/john-wagner-old-lady-482.png)
I Love it! Is that a higher language translation of an actual Maxine comic, or... something else?
Got a couple more this morning.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/FlagBurnninsIlleegal_zpspypnx3l5.jpg)
"Duuurrrr... See, we tole you it wuz illegul!"
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/BernieNhSocialism_zpswhdgbwiv.jpg)
Could someone try the below coming from Foghorn Leghorn?
QuoteQuote from: Cain on March 22, 2013, 05:29:34 PM
Most people would prefer to believe in fantastical conspiracy theories involving aliens, Nazi zombies, secret societies stretching back to the dawn of time and occult powers gaining sinister control over our lives. Also reptilians, Muslims, JOOS etc.
Unfortunately for them, most conspiracies involve power, money and embarrassment. Why did the CIA attempt to kill Castro so many times? Power and money. Why did no-one come forward about Jimmy Savile, despite common knowledge of his crimes? Embarrassment and power. Why did Bush redact certain key parts of the 9-11 Commission's findings, specifically to do with Saudi Arabia? Embarrassment and money and power.
Also, real conspiracies are inevitably depressing. The spectre of alien invaders attacking us from inside the hollow earth is far more exciting than the truth that the government sometimes pays its intelligence agencies to infiltrate terrorist organizations and then allow them to continue killing because it suits certain status quo political objectives. Especially when you look at the list of people who have died by talking about alien invaders (practically none) versus all the judges and top law enforcement officials, many with personal bodyguards, who died while investigating actual conspiracies.
Oh shit, I need to steal that for Holy Nonsense if Cain's okay with it.
Speaking of HN, there are very few references to Roger being reptilian. Please add relevant marginalia if you can.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 13, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
Could someone try the below coming from Foghorn Leghorn?
QuoteQuote from: Cain on March 22, 2013, 05:29:34 PM
Most people would prefer to believe in fantastical conspiracy theories involving aliens, Nazi zombies, secret societies stretching back to the dawn of time and occult powers gaining sinister control over our lives. Also reptilians, Muslims, JOOS etc.
Unfortunately for them, most conspiracies involve power, money and embarrassment. Why did the CIA attempt to kill Castro so many times? Power and money. Why did no-one come forward about Jimmy Savile, despite common knowledge of his crimes? Embarrassment and power. Why did Bush redact certain key parts of the 9-11 Commission's findings, specifically to do with Saudi Arabia? Embarrassment and money and power.
Also, real conspiracies are inevitably depressing. The spectre of alien invaders attacking us from inside the hollow earth is far more exciting than the truth that the government sometimes pays its intelligence agencies to infiltrate terrorist organizations and then allow them to continue killing because it suits certain status quo political objectives. Especially when you look at the list of people who have died by talking about alien invaders (practically none) versus all the judges and top law enforcement officials, many with personal bodyguards, who died while investigating actual conspiracies.
I'd be all over that, but I need Cain's permission first.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 13, 2016, 04:25:45 PM
Speaking of HN, there are very few references to Roger being reptilian. Please add relevant marginalia if you can.
Paste some links in the thread and I'll find places for it. I can ask around and see if any of the people I know who can draw are up for reptile monsters and tentacle faces, the public domain stuff has been sorely lacking.
You can use my stuff if you want.
That said, for cartoon quotes, there are a lot more, uh, "punchy" quotes to use than mine. I tend to be more expansive in how I deal with things, not so much for the one-liners.
Quote from: Cain on April 15, 2016, 11:52:21 AM
You can use my stuff if you want.
That said, for cartoon quotes, there are a lot more, uh, "punchy" quotes to use than mine. I tend to be more expansive in how I deal with things, not so much for the one-liners.
THAT'S the shtick! Cartoon memes are supposed to be simplistic because they express dumbed-down concepts for people who seem to think thinking too much is bad for you, or something.
"Wimmins is wimmins. Mans is mans.
This ain't hard, Yall"
/
:redneck2:
"How come we gots monies for terrist babies
an not fer are soljerz?"
/
:redneck2:
"All lives matter"
/
:redneck2:
If you put well thought out analyses of complex social and geo-political issues next to a picture of a cartoon bird, it is, in my opinion, hilarious.
Also, thanks for letting us use your writing. I'd kinda like to find some other material for this project so your commentary doesn't get leaned on
too hard. That being said, your writing does contrast well with typical facebook looney tune "logic".
All of that up there. ^^^^
Needs moar Roadhouse.
Did Kurt Russel really say that? That's upsetting.
Ugh... I just... Ugh.
I don't get it.
Apparently wanting transwomen to be able to use the same bathrooms as other women is an open door to letting perverted men claim to be transwomen, come in and rape them in the bathroom.
Why banning it - thus allowing perverted men to claim to be transmen and enter women's toilets and rape them - is any different is, as yet, unclear.
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wat
Fighting for equality will bring about Communism which will bring about bread lines.
Obviously.
Equality is only commensurate with numerical identity!
Oh hell no
At this rate, Muslims may double their population by 2050, becoming a whole 2% of the US population.
Prepare to live under Shakira Law, dhimmi.
(https://i.sli.mg/lpxzVK.jpg)
I suck at fb photos, but I saw this one,
Quote
__________
|American |
| Flag
Isn't is weird in
AMERICA ... our flag
and our culture offend
so many people ...
but our benefits don't ??
AND THAT FLAG REPRESENTS THE CULTURE THAT IS GENEROUS ENOUGH TO
GIVE THEM THE VERY BENEFITS OTHER COUNTRIES WOULD NEVER GIVE THEM
Except, you know, most of Europe.
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2016, 08:12:22 AM
Except, you know, most of Europe.
who actually seem to attempt to make a proper job of it, with varying degrees of success.
America does spend more on welfare, surprisingly.
However, this spending mostly comes in the form of tax cuts for middle class families which is, uh, not so helpful for the neediest in society (I'm going to assume these figures also ignore corporate welfare on both sides of the Atlantic, but it's possible they do not). Kinda like how America spends more on healthcare than most European states.
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2016, 08:12:22 AM
Except, you know, most of Europe.
And the fact that it isn't culture that grants benefits, but the government.
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2016, 11:13:51 AM
America does spend more on welfare, surprisingly.
However, this spending mostly comes in the form of tax cuts for middle class families which is, uh, not so helpful for the neediest in society (I'm going to assume these figures also ignore corporate welfare on both sides of the Atlantic, but it's possible they do not). Kinda like how America spends more on healthcare than most European states.
what I said. A proper job of it.
THIS IS WHAT COPROCEPHALICS BELIEVE
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/TrumpClintonMolehill_zpsphiomkbb.jpg)
You know what makes that especially funny?
It's none of the explicit content. Look at the top left corner. Americans for Limited Government.
Trump has argued in favour of censoring the internet, restricting free speech rights and effectively outlawing/spying on an entire religion. Apparently that is limited government.
I can't help but notice that there is an email address in the bottom left.
Shall we say hello?
Eh, I visited the site, it's not that interesting.
For the sake of reference though, considering they're all about "limited government", 3 of their 4 "research programs" are focused on unions.
In today's episode of "not getting it"...
I have to admit, I did chuckle a bit at first.
And we begin (continue) to gloss over the facts of the case...
Open carry a firearm in an open carry state
Police say stop
You stop
Get shot for "having a gun".
Have idiots defend your murder on social media
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
Open carry a firearm in an open carry state
Police say stop
You stop
Get shot for "having a gun".
Have idiots defend your murder on social media
Unless you're white, in which case you can wave the damn thing around and the police will ask you nicely if you wouldn't mind calming down a tad (not kidding, link upon request).
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2016, 04:44:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HIEfpVB.jpg)
Or, more accurately:
"Lets go kill someone who's not a socialist, so our dumbass great grandkids can elect someone who isn't a socialist."
I don't even get that one. Is that Bay of Pigs invasion? Vietnam? Korea? I know we never fought an open war against the USSR.
EDIT:
or is it a reference to the "socialism" in "national socialism". If that's the case then the correct response is to flip the script by pairing the "republic" in "republican" with either "People's Republic of China", "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" or "Republic of Cuba"
Quote from: LMNO on April 04, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
Sigh.
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37728.0;attach=5560)
This one the proper response is to lop off the bottom row, turning it into a complaint about the scale of emergency service salaries being inverse to their importance
EDIT:
Or much better yet, put Trump on the bottom row!
Quote from: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 06:10:10 PM
This is all getting a bit painful. I usually scroll by and put it out of my mind.
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37728.0;attach=5573)
I don't see what's wrong with this one. Are you saying you're actually pro-Clinton rather than just anti-Republican.
I'd love it if they both disappeared, preferably a week before the election. Then maybe we'd wind up with someone who isn't a Republican OR a Democrat.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2016, 04:58:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
Open carry a firearm in an open carry state
Police say stop
You stop
Get shot for "having a gun".
Have idiots defend your murder on social media
Unless you're white, in which case you can wave the damn thing around and the police will ask you nicely if you wouldn't mind calming down a tad (not kidding, link upon request).
Please.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2016, 04:58:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
Open carry a firearm in an open carry state
Police say stop
You stop
Get shot for "having a gun".
Have idiots defend your murder on social media
Unless you're white, in which case you can wave the damn thing around and the police will ask you nicely if you wouldn't mind calming down a tad (not kidding, link upon request).
There was that kid in Ohio who refused to even ID himself to the police, as I recall, and was let off with a warning.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 08, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
Quote from: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 06:10:10 PM
This is all getting a bit painful. I usually scroll by and put it out of my mind.
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37728.0;attach=5573)
I don't see what's wrong with this one. Are you saying you're actually pro-Clinton rather than just anti-Republican.
It's the old trope that "they're both the same" and there's no difference who you vote for. One candidate is clearly a better choice, even if it's not the perfect choice.
Quote from: LMNO on July 08, 2016, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 08, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
Quote from: LMNO on April 07, 2016, 06:10:10 PM
This is all getting a bit painful. I usually scroll by and put it out of my mind.
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37728.0;attach=5573)
I don't see what's wrong with this one. Are you saying you're actually pro-Clinton rather than just anti-Republican.
It's the old trope that "they're both the same" and there's no difference who you vote for. One candidate is clearly a better choice, even if it's not the perfect choice.
I'm not saying they're both
equally unappealing, I'm just saying I don't like either of them. I intend to vote for Hillary, but only to keep the republicans out of office. If there was no republican candidate though I'd either stay home or vote for the Green party or something (though I don't totally like them either, thanks to their luddite opinions about GMOs).
Quote from: Cain on July 08, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 08, 2016, 04:58:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
Open carry a firearm in an open carry state
Police say stop
You stop
Get shot for "having a gun".
Have idiots defend your murder on social media
Unless you're white, in which case you can wave the damn thing around and the police will ask you nicely if you wouldn't mind calming down a tad (not kidding, link upon request).
There was that kid in Ohio who refused to even ID himself to the police, as I recall, and was let off with a warning.
That's every white kid who refuses to ID themselves. This reminds me of something I need to put into the OHIO WTFUCKERY Thread.
Also, if you're white in Ohio, most of the time the cops just take your drugs and give you a warning. And if you do get charged, even an idiot can talk themselves out of being taken into jail.
My roommate had felonious drug charges. They let him go and put out a warrant for his arrest because of some stupid shit he said. He was then arrested for his crimes several months later after being pulled over.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on July 08, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2016, 04:44:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HIEfpVB.jpg)
Or, more accurately:
"Lets go kill someone who's not a socialist, so our dumbass great grandkids can elect someone who isn't a socialist."
I don't even get that one. Is that Bay of Pigs invasion? Vietnam? Korea? I know we never fought an open war against the USSR.
EDIT:
or is it a reference to the "socialism" in "national socialism". If that's the case then the correct response is to flip the script by pairing the "republic" in "republican" with either "People's Republic of China", "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" or "Republic of Cuba"
So, I've been thinking on this. Our equally sensationalist counter-meme to reply with when someone posts this should have a caption in the form of "[something something] People's Republic of China ... [something something] elect a populist Republican who wants to build a border wall"
:cn:
How do fb pictures even WROK?!
:a photo of Obama, with superimposed text:
IF YOU BLAME PREIDENT OBAMA FOR THIS WAR ON COPS,
SHARE THIS!!! or someshit.
This shitnozzle is running for Scot DeJarlais's seat in congress. Scott DesJarlais is the infected rectal polyp currently representing ME in Congress. DeJarlais is known to have pressured his mistress to get an abortion
https://www.facebook.com/GrantforTN/videos/1744279739147390/
This is what came out about him shortly before the election in which he WON.
(From Wikipedia)
QuoteLate in the 2012 election campaign, more events from DesJarlais's personal life became public, making the race against Stewart "one of the ugliest Tennessee congressional races in decades".[20] In October 2012 the Huffington Post obtained a transcript of a recorded September 2000 phone conversation in which DesJarlais pressured a mistress to get an abortion.[21][22] DesJarlais repeatedly denied that he himself had taped the conversation. In October he wrote to supporters on Facebook, "The media wrongly reported that I recorded the conversation myself. I was recorded unknowingly and without my consent."[23] Nine days before the general election a second woman came forward to state that she began dating DesJarlais while she was his patient. She alleged that the two smoked marijuana together and that he prescribed pain medications for her while at his house.[24][25]
Two weeks after DesJarlais won the 2012 election, the Chattanooga Times Free Press obtained a full transcript of DesJarlais's 2001 divorce proceedings.[26] The transcript revealed that DesJarlais had admitted under oath to at least six sexual relationships with people he came in contact with while he was chief of staff at Grandview Medical Center in Jasper, Tennessee. Among them were three co-workers, two patients and a drug representative.[27] The transcript also revealed that he and his former wife had had two abortions.[28][29][27] The transcript also revealed that DesJarlais had admitted under oath that he and his former wife had recorded the phone conversation with the mistress.[23] "One of the biggest mistakes I made was I commented to the press before I had the opportunity to go back and read a transcript that was 13, 14 years old," he said in an interview with the Knoxville News Sentinel. "It was never my intention to mislead anyone, and had I read this, I don't think the inaccuracies that occurred would have taken place."[23]
Three weeks after he won the election, DesJarlais announced on a conservative talk radio show that "God has 'forgiven me' and asked 'fellow Christians' and constituents 'to consider doing the same'."[30]
Grant Starret promises to be even worse.
Sigh.
That's impressively ignorant.
How the fuck is trumps life prior to a TV show not a running joke? It's just astonishing considering the party he's running for.
Literally every single thing that Hillary is accused of there is factually incorrect.
Emails - were found to have some incorrectly marked "classified", the lowest form of "secret" information, including such well kept secrets as the date of a former of head of state's funeral. Also done by previous SecStates like Colin Powell.
Benghazi - SecState is not responsible for individua embassy security, the military is.
No evidence of primary corruption - if anything, while hacked DNC emails reveal a low personal opinion of Sanders and supporters, there is evidence within them that they were going out of their way to try and avoid the perception of corruption with regards to voting.
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Or something.
It's slightly infuriating.
Especially when Clinton was responsible for things like denying asylum to Hondurans fleeing the coup.
Quote from: Cain on September 09, 2016, 06:24:48 PM
Especially when Clinton was responsible for things like denying asylum to Hondurans fleeing the coup.
It actually kind of freaks me out that the anti-Hillary left doesn't focus on things like this, but instead simply regurgitates right wing propaganda whole.
I think at least half the problem is most of them are under 25, and not at all engaged in politics outside of this election.
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2016, 05:01:54 PM
I think at least half the problem is most of them are under 25, and not at all engaged in politics outside of this election.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that. It explains a lot of the self-centered myopia.
Who's got a properly snarky rebuttal on this?
Quote from: MLKI have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Oh, right.
Quote from: LMNO on September 23, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Who's got a properly snarky rebuttal on this?
For some reason Photoshop won't open this image. I want to add to the bottom.
WAS SHOT IN THE FACE.
MURDERER NEVER FOUND.
If you look up criticisms of MLK, you will find that they are identical in every substantive way to criticisms of Black Lives Matter. It's not the right time, it's not the right place, alienating the good white people, how is making people late for work supposed to help, disruptive, you can't just demand change, etc. etc.
http://fusion.net/story/184032/black-lives-matter-martin-luther-king-hate-mail/
http://imgur.com/gallery/1Db5X?lr=0#HNdztE8
"It would be well if every American Negro compared his position and opportunity with that of his race in other countries. He would find that in none does the Negro have the advantages the United States gives him. As justified as may be many of the demands Negroes make, they are not the only matter of importance in the world."
(http://i.imgur.com/FXh82vh.jpg)
This shares so much with typical shitty right-wing memes. Three different kinds of font, blurry as fuck for some reason, and stupidly misinformed. I don't know what this means about progressive politics, but whoever made this should be ashamed.
Quote from: Vivat Alty on October 27, 2016, 04:58:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/FXh82vh.jpg)
This shares so much with typical shitty right-wing memes. Three different kinds of font, blurry as fuck for some reason, and stupidly misinformed. I don't know what this means about progressive politics, but whoever made this should be ashamed.
They will never be, because they will always be able to insist that they just don't see it.
Quote from: Vivat Alty on October 27, 2016, 04:58:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/FXh82vh.jpg)
This shares so much with typical shitty right-wing memes. Three different kinds of font, blurry as fuck for some reason, and stupidly misinformed. I don't know what this means about progressive politics, but whoever made this should be ashamed.
But it was rigged against Bernie.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3023#efmAMFAMSAM-ANBAOIAOhAOiAPV
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423#efmAMyAPDAoKAqBAshAs8AzAA2x
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5609
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Hillary Clinton will be our party's nominee and you standing on ceremony to support the sinking Bernie Sanders ship is disrespectful to Hillary Clinton. A woman who has spent the vast majority of her life in public service and working on behalf of women, families, and the underserved. You have called both myself and Michael Kives before about helping your campaign raise money, we no longer trust your judgement so will not be raising money for your campaign.