The terrorist threat has evolved

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well, what we have here is the institutionalized fucking up of childrens' heads, as directed by teachers and staff with no medical training.

[Mangrove]

Step Mang #4 was considered a 'borderline' candidate for medication by his school. Mrs Mang heard all sorts of scary shit about Ritalin and opted for 'go shit in your hat' also.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Yeah. Let me point out that most parents CHOOSE to send their kid to these schools, and tolerate/accept their dictations. Furthermore, most parents side with the school if there are any issues.

My son was punished for scratching the lettering off a pen. PUNISHED. I buy those fucking pens. I pay for them. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with them as far as I'm concerned.

The most important point I've ever made to the school is that they don't want to see me, ever, at all, that I will get both sides of the story before I pass judgement, and that if for some reason I have to go there I will not side with the teachers just because they think they're the authority, and what will happen is that nobody will be happy. I will make sure that nobody is happy for several years.

They actually made it a pain in my ass when I withdrew EFO from her high school. They tried to charge me for her books, which she left in the classrooms and (justifiably, IMO) refused to go back in to collect.

No.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Yeah. Let me point out that most parents CHOOSE to send their kid to these schools, and tolerate/accept their dictations. Furthermore, most parents side with the school if there are any issues.

My son was punished for scratching the lettering off a pen. PUNISHED. I buy those fucking pens. I pay for them. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with them as far as I'm concerned.

The most important point I've ever made to the school is that they don't want to see me, ever, at all, that I will get both sides of the story before I pass judgement, and that if for some reason I have to go there I will not side with the teachers just because they think they're the authority, and what will happen is that nobody will be happy. I will make sure that nobody is happy for several years.

They actually made it a pain in my ass when I withdrew EFO from her high school. They tried to charge me for her books, which she left in the classrooms and (justifiably, IMO) refused to go back in to collect.

No.

I know it's overdone, but

(Don't know how many times a school has tried to bill me $75 (!) for a textbook that they had in their possession. Once they tried to say a book was ruined because it had waterspots from when my daughter got caught in the rain ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL.)

[P3nT4gR4m]

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into

[Suu]

Yeah,

My sister, took my nephew to the doctor, he walked into the waiting room and saw the kid reading a magazine and said get him out of here.

Nothing like medical doping to replace discipline.

I remember hearing "Sit down and shut up!" along with the threat of the paddle to keep my dumb ass in line.

oh the good old days...

I went to a Catholic school when corporal punishment was not allowed.

Nuns are pretty creative about their punishments though. Public shaming and such.

I got a ruler across my knuckles for not paying attention once. ONCE. I think that's why my handwriting is so perfect. Other than that, this was the teacher that also told us the Holocaust never happened, so...I don't think she was allowed to do that.

At the same Catholic school, my brother (textbook ADHD) was humiliated by his 2nd grade teacher all the time because she was a self-loathing bitch who hated boys. I don't remember exactly what, but it had something to do with him accidentally dropping his Ritalin pill when the nurse came in to give it to him daily, and making him stand in front of the class as, "If you were a normal boy, you wouldn't HAVE to take pills in school." The nurse told my parents, and we were ripped out of the school and back in public school the next year. I do remember getting in a lot of trouble once because she called my brother stupid to his face in the courtyard during recess, and I overheard, and starting yelling at her.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My primary three teacher lobbed a set of keys at me. The lesson I taught her was what happens when you throw something sharp and heavy at someone with far superior reactions and aim than you. The lesson I learned was - doesn't matter a fuck who wins the fight if the loser has authority. Was worth it to see that mark on her face for the rest of the week, tho.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into

Burn it all down.

[Salty]

 

My 6th grade teacher would throw staplers and three hole punches at students. one special day took a particularly troubled student, made him pull a garbage can to the middle of the class room and get in it, then told him, in front of everybody, that he was trash.

My kids not going to regular public school.

[Elder Iptuous]

what's the pic of the carnival barker in the grocery store about?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

[Salty]

And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

This.all of it. We need a ban on fucked up educational infrastructure.

[Mangrove]

And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

This is like treating lung cancer with cigarettes.

[Juana]

...Did she know he was autistic? If she did, what the fuck?