My Day with a SJW

[Ben Shapiro]

Lol thin privilege lol

[Cain]

[tumblring intensifies]

One thing that is a real problem is that our culture tends to assume that all problems are behavior-based, not situation-based; you see that reflected in the negative ways people talk about fat people on mobility scooters, apparently never stopping to think that if you're disabled by, say, degradative cartilage disease or one of the neuropathic disorders like MS, it can become extremely difficult to exercise. Another is that we use shame and belittling to try to change behaviors; that old punishment fetish in action!

While I understand a lot of the social issues around fat-shaming and can see why people would want to become activists around that issue, the problem I see is that most of the time, they simply adopt the enemy's language and start punishing those they perceive as the oppressors. Not only is that ineffective, but as we can see in the dynamic between the Hutu and the Tutsis, it can lead to very bad places with astonishing rapidity.

Not that I think fat people are going to start savagely slaughtering the thin, but you know what I mean.

Well, that's just it, isn't it?

I noted the person in question very quickly moved to "you're fat-shaming, you're wrong and evil" in that thread when they felt under attack.  It was an attempt to morally shame those she felt were shaming her, and punishing them by declaring them to be morally corrupt or suspect.

Given how these shaming techniques, when applied to fat people, clearly haven't worked on her to change her ways, why does she think that adopting the same methods in return will accomplish anything?  I know I keep saying this, but liberals and leftists are the most tactically dumb people on the planet.  If they held a war run by internet ideologues tomorrow, they'd parade up and down a street telling themselves they won and giving each other high fives for being so awesome.  They're rhetorically so weak in many cases they refuse to even engage in debate, believe debate is possible or that it should be desired.  Instead, they shame, bully, declare victory and retreat to a bubble of like-minded activists.

You'll notice how overwhelmingly successful this strategy has been in changing people's minds.

Also, I don't see fat people rising up to slaughter thin people, because they'll always be outrun.  Genocide's a fit person's game, you know, cult of physical health and all that.

[hooplala]

Most people seem to be under the impression that conservatism only exists in the right wing, but its denonstratively false: the left wing displays loads of consrvative traits... censorship, herd mentality, punishment fetishising, etc...

[Ben Shapiro]

[tumblring intensifies]

One thing that is a real problem is that our culture tends to assume that all problems are behavior-based, not situation-based; you see that reflected in the negative ways people talk about fat people on mobility scooters, apparently never stopping to think that if you're disabled by, say, degradative cartilage disease or one of the neuropathic disorders like MS, it can become extremely difficult to exercise. Another is that we use shame and belittling to try to change behaviors; that old punishment fetish in action!

While I understand a lot of the social issues around fat-shaming and can see why people would want to become activists around that issue, the problem I see is that most of the time, they simply adopt the enemy's language and start punishing those they perceive as the oppressors. Not only is that ineffective, but as we can see in the dynamic between the Hutu and the Tutsis, it can lead to very bad places with astonishing rapidity.

Not that I think fat people are going to start savagely slaughtering the thin, but you know what I mean.

Well, that's just it, isn't it?

I noted the person in question very quickly moved to "you're fat-shaming, you're wrong and evil" in that thread when they felt under attack.  It was an attempt to morally shame those she felt were shaming her, and punishing them by declaring them to be morally corrupt or suspect.

Given how these shaming techniques, when applied to fat people, clearly haven't worked on her to change her ways, why does she think that adopting the same methods in return will accomplish anything?  I know I keep saying this, but liberals and leftists are the most tactically dumb people on the planet.  If they held a war run by internet ideologues tomorrow, they'd parade up and down a street telling themselves they won and giving each other high fives for being so awesome.  They're rhetorically so weak in many cases they refuse to even engage in debate, believe debate is possible or that it should be desired.  Instead, they shame, bully, declare victory and retreat to a bubble of like-minded activists.

You'll notice how overwhelmingly successful this strategy has been in changing people's minds.

Also, I don't see fat people rising up to slaughter thin people, because they'll always be outrun.  Genocide's a fit person's game, you know, cult of physical health and all that.

I love you! Can I quote you on retardbook?

[Ben Shapiro]

Most people seem to be under the impression that conservatism only exists in the right wing, but its denonstratively false: the left wing displays loads of consrvative traits... censorship, herd mentality, punishment fetishising, etc...

Idiotic green consumerism.

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

And PETA

[Cain]

I love you! Can I quote you on retardbook?

Sure, feel free

[Eater of Clowns]

Looking forward to the follow up, My Day as a SJW

You won't do it.

[Cain]

Most people seem to be under the impression that conservatism only exists in the right wing, but its denonstratively false: the left wing displays loads of consrvative traits... censorship, herd mentality, punishment fetishising, etc...

You would think the history of the Soviet Union would be a prime case study of this in action.

But since ThoughtCatalog (I know, I know...) had an article up not very long ago advocating reeducation camps for those who abuse freedom of speech by promoting hate speech, I suspect not.  Although, I will admit that whole thing read like a parody of liberal thinking, complete with many references to the UN, the suggestion that the USA was worse than China and Saudi Arabia on human rights and conflation of hate speech with wartime propaganda and genocide.

[Cain]

Looking forward to the follow up, My Day as a SJW

You won't do it.

Sadly, lmno.tumblr.com is not free for the taking.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

[tumblring intensifies]

One thing that is a real problem is that our culture tends to assume that all problems are behavior-based, not situation-based; you see that reflected in the negative ways people talk about fat people on mobility scooters, apparently never stopping to think that if you're disabled by, say, degradative cartilage disease or one of the neuropathic disorders like MS, it can become extremely difficult to exercise. Another is that we use shame and belittling to try to change behaviors; that old punishment fetish in action!

While I understand a lot of the social issues around fat-shaming and can see why people would want to become activists around that issue, the problem I see is that most of the time, they simply adopt the enemy's language and start punishing those they perceive as the oppressors. Not only is that ineffective, but as we can see in the dynamic between the Hutu and the Tutsis, it can lead to very bad places with astonishing rapidity.

Not that I think fat people are going to start savagely slaughtering the thin, but you know what I mean.

Well, that's just it, isn't it?

I noted the person in question very quickly moved to "you're fat-shaming, you're wrong and evil" in that thread when they felt under attack.  It was an attempt to morally shame those she felt were shaming her, and punishing them by declaring them to be morally corrupt or suspect.

Given how these shaming techniques, when applied to fat people, clearly haven't worked on her to change her ways, why does she think that adopting the same methods in return will accomplish anything?  I know I keep saying this, but liberals and leftists are the most tactically dumb people on the planet.  If they held a war run by internet ideologues tomorrow, they'd parade up and down a street telling themselves they won and giving each other high fives for being so awesome.  They're rhetorically so weak in many cases they refuse to even engage in debate, believe debate is possible or that it should be desired.  Instead, they shame, bully, declare victory and retreat to a bubble of like-minded activists.

You'll notice how overwhelmingly successful this strategy has been in changing people's minds.

Also, I don't see fat people rising up to slaughter thin people, because they'll always be outrun.  Genocide's a fit person's game, you know, cult of physical health and all that.

That is exactly it, Cain. Spot on.