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#16
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 22, 2015, 02:08:00 PMYou don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.
What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?
Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"?

http://principiadiscordia.com/book/19.php
Wouldn't Maximum Eris be good if you want to destabilize things though? Especially when there is too less disorder? I theorize that the amount we often think as "too much disorder" will balance out perfectly with the amount of its opposite we have here.
#17
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: Meunster on September 21, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?
BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos
>organize a hunger strike
>organize

Take the real American route
Buy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each.
Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns.
Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention. 

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.
More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?
Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.

No you're not.
Well then howcome this guy did nothing but write, write, write and managed to contribute to the French Revolution plus influence the events within?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Marat
#18
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: Meunster on September 21, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?
BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos
>organize a hunger strike
>organize

Take the real American route
Buy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each.
Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns.
Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention. 

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.
More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?
Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.
#19
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 22, 2015, 02:08:00 PMYou don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.
What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?
Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"? That may have been the type/aspect I've been looking for but unsure if it is ideal or not. But I did hear that Maximum Eris is good for anti-authority stuff or things that involve rebelling, revolutionary wars etc.
#20
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 22, 2015, 02:08:00 PMYou don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.
What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?
#21
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 22, 2015, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: Meunster on September 21, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?
BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos
>organize a hunger strike
>organize

Take the real American route
Buy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each.
Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns.
Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention. 

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.
More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Oh, I see. You're more of an "idea guy."

I mentioned Marat some posts back. He was an idea guy, and look where that got him. Got his throat slit in the bathtub, is where.
Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? I am personally suspicious/fearful about letting any strangers into my private space. Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?
#22
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 22, 2015, 09:00:58 AMBeing able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).


No, you think you would prefer that culture, but you don't know because you've never lived it.

And if you think this place is for Historically Accurate Eris, well shit you're even more lost than I thought.
Just stating what I know so far. That culture is about defending yourself and standing up to any who try to trample on you. The people who have lived that culture were the ones that ended up forming guerrilla resistance forces in WWII against the Nazis.
#23
Quote from: Meunster on September 21, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?
BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos
>organize a hunger strike
>organize

Take the real American route
Buy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each.
Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns.
Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention. 

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.
More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*
#24
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2015, 05:57:15 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 04:17:11 PMI am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.
He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.
He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.
And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.
#25
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 22, 2015, 04:04:33 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 22, 2015, 03:59:37 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 04:17:11 PMI am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He's too fragile to organize a revolution, but if someone else organizes one, he can probably like, hold real still or something.

He's like those people who use guns to make themselves feel powerful and in control. Only he doesn't have a gun. And never has. He just thinks it might work if he had one and the government is TERRIBLE PEOPLE for not letting him have his penis substitute.

Being able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).
#26
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: ChaosAdvocate on September 21, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 21, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
1) Scrap what you've come up with and start over. You have absorbed bad data and are getting bad results.

2) The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

3) Chaos Theory is about math. Discordianism is Chaos Theology.
Chaos theology then* I used that term cause I also see it as something metaphysical. There are times or places where change is more or less constant.

Also what about Maximilien Robespierre's efforts to prevent the French Revolution from being re-ordered and brought under another elite? Any idea what wrong wrong?

Murdering everyone who disagrees with you is imposing your own order.
"Reign of terror" was the name for the time period. He did not officially implement it himself, only used influence and words to create such a situation where people suspected of trying to re-order things were eliminated by the crowd.
#27
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 21, 2015, 04:15:11 PM
1) Scrap what you've come up with and start over. You have absorbed bad data and are getting bad results.

2) The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

3) Chaos Theory is about math. Discordianism is Chaos Theology.
Chaos theology then* I used that term cause I also see it as something metaphysical. There are times or places where change is more or less constant.

Also what about Maximilien Robespierre's efforts to prevent the French Revolution from being re-ordered and brought under another elite? Any idea what wrong wrong?
#28
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on September 21, 2015, 04:08:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 18, 2015, 10:26:55 PM
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Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great.  And how do you plan to do this?  Specifically, I mean.  Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?
Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then.  You know, organizing.
Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep.  Great.  Let's see some results.  Chop chop.
There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/union-leaders-term-bharat-bandh-a-grand-success/

What have YOU done?
Also creation of thought-forms,

Okay, okay, I know I'm like 8 pages back (hey I was gone for a week - live the chaos!) but....  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

I missed it COMPLETELY.  :lol: I bet he does sigils, too. Because he's a mover and a shaker.

:lol: :lol:
Every successful revolution needs a strategic sigilist. He's doing his part, it's EVERYONE ELSE that needs to get off their asses and reap the benefits of his thoughts.
I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.
#29
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 21, 2015, 03:56:51 PM
And then Napoleon showed up, completely re-ordered the society, and got loads of French common folk slaughtered in wars that were mainly won by having more bodies to throw away than the other guys.

Things fall apart and then immediately get put back together. A massive push towards disorder led to a brutal and deadly backswing into order.

Also, most of the major French Revolutionaries got themselves killed. So, you know, if you aren't actually planning to LIVE in the world after turning it upside-down, then go for broke, I guess.
Oh, ok. Well I meant the original intention of the revolution and what it accomplished/used to be before it was crushed, where even starving homeless people bravely rose up against the elite etc. Maximilien Robiespierre made a great effort in trying to catch people like Napoleon that would re-order it but using his influence to start a reign of "terrorism"/"entropic chaos" known as "the great terror", he did go over the top a bit. It both started with him and ended with him too(If you know what I mean). It gave inspiration for other revolution attempts such as the June Rebellion(1832) or the Paris Communard Revolt(1871 and first attempt at Anarchy/Social Anarchy).

Also just to let you know I am new to chaos theory but I am using what I know so far. As of right now I lean more towards the "disorder/entropy" aspect because I believe we are in need of it more than the order part and are out of balance.
#30
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 21, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?
BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.