This thread is now about Furries, for some reason. Formerly: "So. Anonymous."

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When adults get too invested in things intended for children (anthropomorphic cartoons for fucks sake) there's probably something dysfunctional going on if not pathological.

So... adults....   who watch cartoons......      are pedophiles?

I'm going to go ahead and eat my hat.

You're right, my hate wasn't strong on this.

I was wrong to argue furries are child abusers and animal rapists.

That was a bigoted thing to say and I apologize for it.

I have some things to critically examine about myself.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I always figured furry was probably more an aesthetic thing for most practitioners.

Some people like blondes, some brunettes. Some people like fishnets and suspenders and some prefer them with fake cat ears and whiskers.

Like anything else, it's taken to extremes on the fringes but think about this - playboy bunnies are, technically speaking, a mild form of furry and I'm sure as hell I wouldn't think twice about nailing one of those. 

[BADGE OF HONOR]

You make it sound like it is something they choose , again, much like the religious fundamentalists try to make the claim that gays choose to be gay.

Your reading comprehension is shit.  To reiterate, I don't like furries because they have to pretend to be animals to feel sexy. 

Have to?  Not in my experience - I have no clue where you even got that idea.  Want to?  Of course, that's what makes them furries.

But by all means, keep talking out of your ass.

You two go talk to each other.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

Furries DO go to great lengths to pretend to be childish animals in order to have sex.

You really don't get it - you have no idea what you're talking about.  I'm trying to tell you that you're wrong but you're not accepting it.  You are slandering an entire community of which you know little to nothing.  You are no different than the person that claims that homosexuals recruit young children.  

I'm done trying to explain it to you though.  You go right on being a bigot, if that's what makes you happy.  

  Actually I lied, I've got one more:



"Childish animals."   LOL!

That...thing...is incredibly childish.

[Kai]

No see, I'm not even laughing at furries. I'm laughing at your idiocy in comparing furries with transsexuals. I'm laughing at YOU. 

And yet you still can't explain the difference.

One thinks they're something they biologically are not.

The other thinks they're something they biologically are not.

Same --> Same

Granted, some furries don't actually believe that they're some anthropomorphic animal inside for realz, they just like dressing up like animals.

This is more analogous to cross-dressing.

There is biological rational for transsexuals. There is absolutely no biological rational for furries.

And no, I am not gonna find the resources for you.

Even if there WASN'T any biological explanation for transsexuals, the two things are still entirely different because transsexuals keep their identification within the same species.

It's not necessary for you to find the resources. I am familiar enough with them.

All human fetuses are female for  a certain period of time. In males, testosterone causes physical changes that are sometimes not fully expressed, specifically, you can have a male body and a female brain. Some women produce higher levels of testosterone that can androgenize the brain of the female fetus.

Or something like that.

There is no known or explored biological rational for furries yet. But I think we can agree that the human species evolved from other species, and that we share a significant portion of our genome with other animals.

Also, countless other human cultures have had anthropomorphic animals as central figures in their cultures. It was also pretty damn common for people to dress up as animals for religious ceremonies, and for certain members of their society to take on an animal "familiar" as part of their own identity.

These behaviors are common enough in unrelated cultures, that it seems unlikely that there is no biological basis.

.....and ceremonial use of animal figures is the same as people dressing up in fur suits and piling each other or thinking they are of another species....how?

I'm not even gonna touch the  italicized statement. Someone else can explain to you why there is absolutely no evolutionary rational for humans to think they are other species, along with that lack of biological explanation. I've wasted my time enough with dumb fucking arguements in the last 24 hours.

[shadowfurry23]

When adults get too invested in things intended for children (anthropomorphic cartoons for fucks sake) there's probably something dysfunctional going on if not pathological.

So... adults....   who watch cartoons......      are pedophiles?

I'm going to go ahead and eat my hat.

You're right, my hate wasn't strong on this.

I was wrong to argue furries are child abusers and animal rapists.

That was a bigoted thing to say and I apologize for it.

I have some things to critically examine about myself.

Wow.  Thank you for the apology.  I'm sorry if I came across poorly myself.

In truth I probably should have kept the whole zoophile thing out of it, since it confuses and frightens people.  The NAMBLA comparison is apt in that furries hate zoophiles because they make the whole furry community look bad, not unlike how gays view NAMBLA.  Personally I'm not convinced that there's harm being perpetrated, but its a hard sell.  I brought it up largely to weird people out in all honesty - and it's a rather odd subject I find somewhat interesting but pretty much never get to discuss.

That...thing...is incredibly childish.

I can only assume that your idea of what constitutes "childish" is significantly different than mine.  Cuz yeah, that's not a word I'd associate with that image.  At all.  (which of course was why I posted it)

[shadowfurry23]

.....and ceremonial use of animal figures is the same as people dressing up in fur suits and piling each other or thinking they are of another species....how?

I'm not even gonna touch the  italicized statement. Someone else can explain to you why there is absolutely no evolutionary rational for humans to think they are other species, along with that lack of biological explanation. I've wasted my time enough with dumb fucking arguements in the last 24 hours.

You keep hammering on this, but it displays a basic misunderstanding of the furry subculture.  I've met a small handful of people who think this way, and I've met a hell of a lot of furries.  Fuck, I think I know more people who claim that they are really elves.

I always figured furry was probably more an aesthetic thing for most practitioners.

Some people like blondes, some brunettes. Some people like fishnets and suspenders and some prefer them with fake cat ears and whiskers.

Like anything else, it's taken to extremes on the fringes but think about this - playboy bunnies are, technically speaking, a mild form of furry and I'm sure as hell I wouldn't think twice about nailing one of those. 

Give yourself a cookie.  You nailed it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I remember seeing this website about a dude that had a sexual relationship with a dolphin, one time.  he claimed that he would swim out into the ocean to meet his love, and they would have sex.  he drew pictures and poetry and crap. I think he fantasized about dolphinpomorphizing himself in some of his 'art'....
would he be a furry? (since there is no fur involved)...
what if you dress up as a naked mole rat?....

Thanks, I now have a burning curiosity to see what someone dressed up as a naked mole rat would look like 

I'll have to look for pics; my oldest was a Naked Mole Rat for Halloween year before last.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

you just made my moral grounds for hating zoophiliacs soggy, fuck you!

I knew a guy who would pick up stray dogs, take them home, feed them, bathe them, brush them, trim them then fuck 'em (usually male dogs, so in the ass).  He didn't have a good no-kill shelter near him so usually he'd return them where he found them afterwards.  If he encountered these dogs again, they would bound up to him and lick him and generally behave as though they were very pleased to see him.  So he said anyway, I didn't witness any of this, but I trusted people who did know him when they said it was true.

I've also met a few people who really love their dogs - a husky, just so the mental image is crystal clear   

Finally, I've known people who fuck female horses.  Apparently a horse has a rather higher body temperature than humans.  Also, you'd think a human wang would be too small, but the one fellow (god damn he was cute, I'm totally glad I got to fool around with him) claimed the horse would in fact orgasm, it's whole body shuddering.  He was quite effusive about the experience.  And yes, a stepladder was involved (again, just making sure that mental image is crystal-clear for you).

I've known some weird people.

Never done anything like that myself, and have no interest, thank you. 

_{ok, well, maybe i was curious about the horse thing.} 

When I was maybe 23 I found a zoophile newsgroup. Wow.

I read that newsgroup for months, constantly in a sort of awe for the sincerity of the poor fucks.

Yes, I did feel sorry for them. Many of them flat-out admitted an inability to bond with other humans, and not infrequently one of their animal companions would die, and they would spiral into the sort of grief usually reserved for the loss of a human lover.

Creeped me out bigtime, but I kept on reading it, because that kind of human trainwreck is addictive. Was useful for trolling, too.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Soooooo... you don't like furries because they have a personal avatar that isn't anything like themselves?

Dude.  The future, especially the Internet of the future, is going to SUCK for you.  Seriously.  I'm going to stand over here and laugh at you now.

  BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* Bahahahaha.  heh.  *wipes tear*  That's precious, really.  Should I get off your lawn now?

I have an affinity for people whose internal perception of their "real selves" is fairly consistent with the external appearance of their physical bodies.

I could claim that "inside" I am a 24-year-old blonde with a wasp-waist and big tits, but the reality is that my body is that of a 37-year-old mother of three with medium-ish boobs and an extra 15 pounds of fat.

See that blue moon-guy in my avatar? That's not me. That's a painting my housemate made on a wall. I am completely at home with that fact.

I am not a vampire, or a cat, or a dragon, or a dude, or a magical pony. Regardless of any fantasies, I am at home in my body. My body doesn't define who I am, but I still live in it and that's cool with me; it does its job pretty well and I like it. I don't feel the need to deny it and claim that what I "really" am is something completely different, and I find that I get along best with others who also don't need to claim that they are "really" something other than what the physical, empirical world perceives them to be. If a boy wants to love as a girl, and then proceeds to live as a girl, that totally works out with reality. IMO. However, if a boy wants to live as a magical dolphin with wings, reality is going to present an obstacle to that.

[The Dark Monk]

Which is why there are fetish groups for such things, and people with the same interests magnetize towards eachother. I can see vampire fetishes because I have one, I can see an affinity towards a feeling of being more of an animal, but it has to stay in the same species. Plus, that asian chick is hot, if that's furry, count me in.
Zoophilia is a bit over the top though.

Also

WHERE'S MY 10 FREE THETANS?!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Childish animals."   LOL!

There is really nothing about this that isn't funny.

[The Dark Monk]

I'm wondering what exactly he's drinking tharr.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Brandy, of course, because that's what MANLY horses drink, in the minds of children.

Personally I think furries are more like adult babies than they are like anything else. Pretending to be animals has a lot more in common with infantilism and the desire to be innocent and devoid of adult responsibility/worries than it does with, say, BDSM (which also has strong "helplessness" leanings, and abdication of power, as do many fetishes). 

In most fetishes (fetishes is the wrong word here but I will use it anyway out of laziness and poor memory), IME, the "weaker" partner is almost always the one with the most power, as the "stronger" partner, the "top", must take complete responsibility for the satisfaction of both parties. It's an interesting dynamic. I don't know how that plays out with furries, but honestly I'm not that interested.

[Kai]

Brandy, of course, because that's what MANLY horses drink, in the minds of children.

Personally I think furries are more like adult babies than they are like anything else. Pretending to be animals has a lot more in common with infantilism and the desire to be innocent and devoid of adult responsibility/worries than it does with, say, BDSM (which also has strong "helplessness" leanings, and abdication of power, as do many fetishes). 

In most fetishes (fetishes is the wrong word here but I will use it anyway out of laziness and poor memory), IME, the "weaker" partner is almost always the one with the most power, as the "stronger" partner, the "top", must take complete responsibility for the satisfaction of both parties. It's an interesting dynamic. I don't know how that plays out with furries, but honestly I'm not that interested.

The word is kink.

The strict definition of a fetish is an object or symbol required for someone to reach orgasm or even become sexually stimulated.