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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM

Title: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
Remember this:

His campaign advisor, Paul Manafort, took over $4 million from the Pakistani ISI in order to "highlight the plight of the Kashmiri people". This was part of a "false flag operation" designed to secretly influence American policy towards Kashmir by diverting American public attention away from Pakistani state-sponsored terrorism in the region.

Paul Manafort was also involved in the Karachi Affair, getting over $200,000 for helping arrange the corrupt deal between Pakistan and the French government for the sale of Agosta attack submarines while running the election campaign for Edouard Balladur. It is alleged that money from these commissions was used by the ISI to fund Kashmiri militants, and that when Chirac cancelled the deal, the 2002 Karachi Bus Bombing carried out by either Al-Qaeda or Harkat-ul Mujahideen al-Alami was retaliation for this.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:07:57 PM
This is, of course, the same Paul Manafort who has done significant work with pro-Putin oligarchs in Russia and Ukraine as well.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Junkenstein on June 15, 2016, 01:18:03 PM
Sounds like a poor man's Karl Rove.

Is there any evidence that Rove and Manafort are not actually the same people? I've heard nothing about him since his public meltdown but I must assume he's still stealing oxygen/children's souls from somewhere.

Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
Rove's a grade A asshole, but I'll say this for him - he's never taken money from people connected to terrorism, and I've seen nothing to suggest he should be a registered agent of a foreign power.

Manafort, on the other hand...

(incidentally, Russian hackers stole Democratic Party opposition research on Trump the other day.  The chances of this not somehow getting back to Manafort are so perishingly small I am willing to go out, buy a hat and eat it if somehow it does not)
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
You should go buy a hat anyway.  Hats are nice.


Anyhoo, what could be in the DNC files that he doesn't already know?  "Trump's an asshat.  Attack him on his asshattery."
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:31:38 PM
Could be their planned lines of attack on Trump, not just the info itself.  Sources, maybe.  Allows him to get out in front of their game plan, prepare counters, poison the well, all that stuff.

Also I dont believe for a minute Trump would tell Manafort every dirty little secret he has, or the skeletons in his closet.  Trump is the kind of guy who would lie to his own lawyer, let alone his campaign manager.

But given Trump is basically now implying Obama is an ISIS mole, I have no problem pointing out how Manafort takes money from sponsors of international terrorism.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
What sucks is that the best truths are often non-meme-able.  There's usually a lot of necessary backstory and nuance.  Doesn't go well with Impact Font.



(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/7/7/4/7/6/meme-text-impact-font-with-outline.jpg)
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
Kashmir one could be.

"Trump: complains that Obama won't say "radical Islam", ignores his campaign manager getting paid $4 million to deny Islamic terrorism in India" then source it at the bottom.

Edit: or "Trump so concerned with "American Muslim sleeper agents", doesn't realise his own campaign manager was part of a "false flag operation" to play down Islamic terrorism"
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 01:45:13 PM
Hmm.  I may have a project for today.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
"Trump campaign manager accepts bribes to distract public from Pakistani-sponsored terrorism.... But that's none of my business"

Should fit on the Kermit one okay.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 01:54:35 PM
Sounds perfect.  Maybe "Pakistani-sponsored Islamic terrorism", to highlight the hypocrisy?
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Noice.  BRB.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 02:02:06 PM
Suggestions?

Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 02:02:21 PM
Never tell me I can't meme something. Or flyer it. Propaganda erryday.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 02:02:21 PM
Never tell me I can't meme something. Or flyer it. Propaganda erryday.

You're now my go-to.  I can make things more complicated, you can make things simpler. Together we fight crime!

New thread idea: Meme complicated truths.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 02:02:21 PM
Never tell me I can't meme something. Or flyer it. Propaganda erryday.

:mittens: for both the above posts
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 04:48:55 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/15vuzr.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/15vuzr)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

like so?
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 04:53:26 PM
That meme generator works better than mine, for sure!
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 05:03:49 PM
Yeah, I'm a lazy bastard, but usually these things work. Did we want any more?
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 05:06:58 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 15, 2016, 05:03:49 PM
Yeah, I'm a lazy bastard, but usually these things work. Did we want any more?

Gimme a sec -- gonna make a new thread.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 15, 2016, 05:12:29 PM
I'm a bit caught up in trying to make Windows 10 suck less right now, but if anyone else has any ideas, I'd love for them to be posted.

The rank hypocrisy here, as you may be able to tell, really pisses me off.  The man literally employs an apologist for Islamic terrorists* while going around implying everyone who doesn't agree with his lunacy might be a secret ISIS sleeper agent.

There was even talk today about resurrecting the House Commission on UnAmerican Activities by Newt Gingrinch, who has been mentioned as a possible Trump VP pick.  If that talk gains ground...well IMO, Manafort should be one of the first people dragged in front of it.  Not that I want it to happen, but if it does...

*incidentally, I am personally sympathetic to the plight of civilians in Kashmir, who do suffer horribly under Indian militias and death squads.  But then, I also don't pretend Pakistan isn't supporting a good half dozen different groups of nutters in the region too, or accept blood money from the ISI backers who - as we should recall - may have had some advanced knowledge re: September 11th, and definitely played a role in exfiltrating key Taliban and Al-Qaeda members from Afghanistan
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 18, 2016, 05:40:29 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2016, 05:12:29 PM
I'm a bit caught up in trying to make Windows 10 suck less right now

Have you installed classic shell and ribbon disabler?

Quote from: LMNO on June 15, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
What sucks is that the best truths are often non-meme-able.  There's usually a lot of necessary backstory and nuance. 

Well none of the specifics of trump's campaign are meme-able or lend themselves to trump-specific memes. The campaign as a whole however can be summed up with this image:

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/131/351/eb6.jpg?1307463786)

Someone just needs to edit it so that Fry is looking at donald trump
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Junkenstein on June 21, 2016, 09:37:06 AM
Apparently Trump has sacked his campaign manager and Manafort has been basically running the show since about April. I didn't hear a justification for the sacking beyond "poor performance". It'll be interesting to see how much power this guy has when the bullshit settles.


Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2016, 12:36:40 PM
Pretty sure Corey got sacked because he assaulted a Breitbart "reporter" and criminal charges may be pending.
Title: Re: The next time Trump says something stupid about Muslims...
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on June 21, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 15, 2016, 05:12:29 PMThere was even talk today about resurrecting the House Commission on UnAmerican Activities by Newt Gingrinch

Is that unusual? I thought Gingrich said stuff like that constantly.