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Title: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2012, 03:03:57 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/

British voodoo bluesman? Sold his soul to the Devil? Book comes with lucky mojo doll? This has "humorist" written all over it.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2012, 03:05:26 AM
QuoteFrom the Author
Greetings!

I'm Dr Snake, a conjure man living on the eastside of paradise, in a rainbow land where a hoodoo sun shines and a mojorain falls.

My Spellbook - which you may be considering ordering - is a book of folk magic, or "hoodoo" as it is called in the American South. It also draws on magical elements from Voodoo, Santeria, and Macumba, all of which have their roots in Africa.

The book gets you started in casting spells that will help you gain money and prosperity, love and sex, and health and well-being. You will also be empowered to bring back a lost lover, repel enemies and avert the evil eye. I give clear instruction on how to use roots, potions, and herbal baths; how to construct Voodoo dolls and lucky mojo talismans; and how to set up a simple altar.

But it isn't just a cookbook in hoodoo sorcery. It's a book full of anecdotes concerning the adventures I had with my mentor, Earl Marlowe, a hoodooist and blues singer, who instructed me in the art of conjure.

Anyway, If you do decide to order my Spellbook I truly hope you will not only enjoy it, but will recognise that reality is not as it seems and that, in a certain sense, at least, anything is possible.

May Love, Peace & Happiness be yours...

Doktor Snake. The Name with No Man.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 03:06:54 AM
Quote from: CAKE on November 14, 2012, 03:03:57 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/

British voodoo bluesman? Sold his soul to the Devil? Book comes with lucky mojo doll? This has "humorist" written all over it.

That's what I was leaning towards, but I've seen enough of the other categories to wonder.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 03:07:54 AM
Quote from: CAKE on November 14, 2012, 03:05:26 AM
QuoteFrom the Author
Greetings!

I'm Dr Snake, a conjure man living on the eastside of paradise, in a rainbow land where a hoodoo sun shines and a mojorain falls.

My Spellbook - which you may be considering ordering - is a book of folk magic, or "hoodoo" as it is called in the American South. It also draws on magical elements from Voodoo, Santeria, and Macumba, all of which have their roots in Africa.

The book gets you started in casting spells that will help you gain money and prosperity, love and sex, and health and well-being. You will also be empowered to bring back a lost lover, repel enemies and avert the evil eye. I give clear instruction on how to use roots, potions, and herbal baths; how to construct Voodoo dolls and lucky mojo talismans; and how to set up a simple altar.

But it isn't just a cookbook in hoodoo sorcery. It's a book full of anecdotes concerning the adventures I had with my mentor, Earl Marlowe, a hoodooist and blues singer, who instructed me in the art of conjure.

Anyway, If you do decide to order my Spellbook I truly hope you will not only enjoy it, but will recognise that reality is not as it seems and that, in a certain sense, at least, anything is possible.

May Love, Peace & Happiness be yours...

Doktor Snake. The Name with No Man.

Oh, he's selling it again?

I thought it was a limited edition of 666 copies selling for 666 GBP each, and that he already sold every copy....
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2012, 06:55:16 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 03:07:54 AM
Quote from: CAKE on November 14, 2012, 03:05:26 AM
QuoteFrom the Author
Greetings!

I'm Dr Snake, a conjure man living on the eastside of paradise, in a rainbow land where a hoodoo sun shines and a mojorain falls.

My Spellbook - which you may be considering ordering - is a book of folk magic, or "hoodoo" as it is called in the American South. It also draws on magical elements from Voodoo, Santeria, and Macumba, all of which have their roots in Africa.

The book gets you started in casting spells that will help you gain money and prosperity, love and sex, and health and well-being. You will also be empowered to bring back a lost lover, repel enemies and avert the evil eye. I give clear instruction on how to use roots, potions, and herbal baths; how to construct Voodoo dolls and lucky mojo talismans; and how to set up a simple altar.

But it isn't just a cookbook in hoodoo sorcery. It's a book full of anecdotes concerning the adventures I had with my mentor, Earl Marlowe, a hoodooist and blues singer, who instructed me in the art of conjure.

Anyway, If you do decide to order my Spellbook I truly hope you will not only enjoy it, but will recognise that reality is not as it seems and that, in a certain sense, at least, anything is possible.

May Love, Peace & Happiness be yours...

Doktor Snake. The Name with No Man.

Oh, he's selling it again?

I thought it was a limited edition of 666 copies selling for 666 GBP each, and that he already sold every copy....

BUT IT'S A JOKE.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/

Never heard of him - but he's from Norwich- out in the swamplands of the deep East- so that's hardly surprising. Just seems to be your average common or garden weirdo ploughing his own furrow. But he calls himself DoKtor, so yanno, make your own call on that one  :wink:

Nigel may be right but I'm not seeing why
"British voodoo bluesman? Sold his soul to the Devil? Book comes with lucky mojo doll? This has "humorist" written all over it."

From over here it looks more like "oddball" than humourist. Are you saying that a white boy from Norwich can't be a voodoo bluesman? Did you listen to the music btw, music itself is well listenable but the voice, meh, not so much. I did like his song about Mitt Romney: AIN'T GONNA SELL MY SOUL TO SATAN (GONNA SELL YOURS INSTEAD) http://doktorsnake.me/2012/10/11/mitt-romney-aint-gonna-sell-my-soul-to-satan-gonna-sell-yours-instead/
Anyhow, thanks for pointing this guy out, it was certainly worth a giggle to look him up even if I don't actually think he's a joke. [well not in all senses of that phrase]
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/

Never heard of him - but he's from Norwich- out in the swamplands of the deep East- so that's hardly surprising. Just seems to be your average common or garden weirdo ploughing his own furrow. But he calls himself DoKtor, so yanno, make your own call on that one  :wink:

Nigel may be right but I'm not seeing why
"British voodoo bluesman? Sold his soul to the Devil? Book comes with lucky mojo doll? This has "humorist" written all over it."

From over here it looks more like "oddball" than humourist. Are you saying that a white boy from Norwich can't be a voodoo bluesman? Did you listen to the music btw, music itself is well listenable but the voice, meh, not so much. I did like his song about Mitt Romney: AIN'T GONNA SELL MY SOUL TO SATAN (GONNA SELL YOURS INSTEAD) http://doktorsnake.me/2012/10/11/mitt-romney-aint-gonna-sell-my-soul-to-satan-gonna-sell-yours-instead/
Anyhow, thanks for pointing this guy out, it was certainly worth a giggle to look him up even if I don't actually think he's a joke. [well not in all senses of that phrase]

He's not a bad guitarist, you're right. I guess part of it is, it does look like some sort of spoof on this end. But, you're all just a tad odd to us by default, so I'm not sure if he is joking, if he's a weirdo, or if he's trying to be England's answer to Dr. John.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
There's also bits like this that kinda raise the eyebrow:

QuoteDoktor Snake in da house, spills da beans on Mitt Romney, bust out boy...

Song written October 2012 by Doktor Snake. Doc on all vocals, guitars and drums. Recorded in da shotgun shack at midnite, when the hoot owl cries and the black cat moans. Doktor Snake wrote this song coz he's crazy angry 'bout Mitt Romney and the BIG LIE he tellin'

So, he's trying to emulate how, presumably, a voodoo bluesman from the South would talk, which is silly on its own, but then uses the word "coz" which an American would never use.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
There's also bits like this that kinda raise the eyebrow:

QuoteDoktor Snake in da house, spills da beans on Mitt Romney, bust out boy...

Song written October 2012 by Doktor Snake. Doc on all vocals, guitars and drums. Recorded in da shotgun shack at midnite, when the hoot owl cries and the black cat moans. Doktor Snake wrote this song coz he's crazy angry 'bout Mitt Romney and the BIG LIE he tellin'

So, he's trying to emulate how, presumably, a voodoo bluesman from the South would talk, which is silly on its own, but then uses the word "coz" which an American would never use.

So what would your [US] equivalent of "coz" be?
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
There's also bits like this that kinda raise the eyebrow:

QuoteDoktor Snake in da house, spills da beans on Mitt Romney, bust out boy...

Song written October 2012 by Doktor Snake. Doc on all vocals, guitars and drums. Recorded in da shotgun shack at midnite, when the hoot owl cries and the black cat moans. Doktor Snake wrote this song coz he's crazy angry 'bout Mitt Romney and the BIG LIE he tellin'

So, he's trying to emulate how, presumably, a voodoo bluesman from the South would talk, which is silly on its own, but then uses the word "coz" which an American would never use.

So what would your [US] equivalent of "coz" be?

Cuz. We don't pronounce because with an aw.

It may seem like a minor thing, but it seemed immediately out of place with the rest of it.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
There's also bits like this that kinda raise the eyebrow:

QuoteDoktor Snake in da house, spills da beans on Mitt Romney, bust out boy...

Song written October 2012 by Doktor Snake. Doc on all vocals, guitars and drums. Recorded in da shotgun shack at midnite, when the hoot owl cries and the black cat moans. Doktor Snake wrote this song coz he's crazy angry 'bout Mitt Romney and the BIG LIE he tellin'

So, he's trying to emulate how, presumably, a voodoo bluesman from the South would talk, which is silly on its own, but then uses the word "coz" which an American would never use.

So what would your [US] equivalent of "coz" be?

Cuz. We don't pronounce because with an aw.

It may seem like a minor thing, but it seemed immediately out of place with the rest of it.
See I thought you would say that. When I see "coz" i hear "cuz";  my partner agrees so I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 14, 2012, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
There's also bits like this that kinda raise the eyebrow:

QuoteDoktor Snake in da house, spills da beans on Mitt Romney, bust out boy...

Song written October 2012 by Doktor Snake. Doc on all vocals, guitars and drums. Recorded in da shotgun shack at midnite, when the hoot owl cries and the black cat moans. Doktor Snake wrote this song coz he's crazy angry 'bout Mitt Romney and the BIG LIE he tellin'

So, he's trying to emulate how, presumably, a voodoo bluesman from the South would talk, which is silly on its own, but then uses the word "coz" which an American would never use.

So what would your [US] equivalent of "coz" be?

"Because".

Or "Cousin".

Depending on what was supposed to be said.  We here in America cannot take responsibility for the mangling of the English language by the English, or by people living in the American Southeast.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:28:29 PM
Ah- i hear cause as in this caused an accident when i see cos or coz.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
:lol: roger
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Yup , its one of those "two nations divided by a common language" things. That said, his attempt at an american accent does sound pretty cringeworthy to me.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: LMNO on November 14, 2012, 02:38:03 PM
I think it's revenge for Madonna's horrific abuse of UK mannerisms.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
Yeah lol- so im not sure if thats misguided pseudoauthenticity or if its flat out parody.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
Oh yeah i suppose we do deserve that dont we?
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 14, 2012, 02:38:03 PM
I think it's revenge for Dick Van Dyke's horrific abuse of UK mannerisms.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: LMNO on November 14, 2012, 02:57:11 PM
Cain going old school, ITT.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2012, 03:02:37 PM
You can't just expect people to forget something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_rVzBt20N0).

Are there any British actors who do American accents this bad?  All the ones I can think of tend to be pretty good (Hugh Laurie, Stephen Moyer, Andrew Lincoln) but I am sure there has to be someone awful out there.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 14, 2012, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 14, 2012, 03:02:37 PM
You can't just expect people to forget something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_rVzBt20N0).

Are there any British actors who do American accents this bad?  All the ones I can think of tend to be pretty good (Hugh Laurie, Stephen Moyer, Andrew Lincoln) but I am sure there has to be someone awful out there.

we have a generic 'newscaster accent' that is 'Merican, but not associated with any particular region.  it seems default to me, (and i presume most everybody, regardless of the accent they have) and i can't really see a British person having much difficulty affecting it.
If they were to try a specific regional dialect, however, i can see how they could terribly fail quite easily, even by the estimation of americans that don't use it, or even hear it on a daily basis.

is the accent that seems generic British to me (as presented, e.g. in bbc news broadcasts) associated with a certain region?
(ETA: NM. i just wiki'd it and was illuminated on 'received pronunciation')
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
I don't know, I mean Andrew Lincoln and Stephen Moyer are both doing regional American accents, with the former portraying someone from Georgia and the latter Louisiana.  In fact, I have a suspicion that the Deep South's accents are easier for British actors to emulate, but I need more evidence before I'm sold on the theory.

British newscasters tend to have the "Middle English" so-called accent.  It's something of a socio-economic as well as regional thing, with people from the south and east of England and usually of middle class upbringing and education most likely to speak it.  But, for instance, my accent is closer to that than the region I lived in, as were a good number of my friends.

Also, the BBC has come under a bit of criticism for its hiring practices based on accent, so nowadays you do tend to hear more Scottish accents (usually from Edinburgh/Fife), the occasional Cardiff Welsh accent and Essex.  Not so much Newcastle, Birmingham or Glasgow.  Middle English still predominates, but outside of the international newscasts is becoming less common.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
The southern accent sounds more authentic the worse its done. It is the south were talking about.

Brits generally do an excellent job with american tv accent. But considering that some bostonians (such as myself) cant convincingly do their own regional accent i would assume that brits would also largely screw them up.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 14, 2012, 04:02:26 PM
i don't recognize the names of those actors, but perhaps i've seen/heard them and simply assumed they were american. 

why would a radio broadcast be criticized for hiring based on the way the speakers sound?  that seems odd.

on a side note, it's always impressed me how there can be such density of varying accents in a relatively small area, such as the UK.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
One of them is the lead character, Rick Grimes in The Walking Dead and the other is Bill in True Blood.

I was thinking more television broadcasts...the thing is, there are large regional divides in the UK, to the point of discrimination at times.  The north is far poorer than the south, the east tends to be more affluent than the west (which is a big historical change) and of course Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have well developed and historical identities.

The diversity is fairly impressive.  I know generally speaking diverse accents and languages tend to be the consequence of geography and the difficulty of travel.  Given the UK does not have that terrible geography, rain aside, I guess it's a historical thing as much as anything - peasants as property of the lords, bound to certain areas etc
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 14, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
wow. yes, i've seen walking dead, and did assume that he was american.  haven't seen it since last season finished up and hit the torrents, but he has a fairly generic american accent, iirc. or did he have a drawl?

yes, i guess feudalism explains it in the absence of geographic isolation...
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: LMNO on November 14, 2012, 04:33:45 PM
Rick Grimes is British?  Wow.

There's also Damien Lewis, from Band of Brothers and Homeland.  He does a damn good job of it.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Cain on November 14, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
And indeed Dominic West, aka Jimmy McNulty.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 14, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
Quote from: MMIX on November 14, 2012, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on November 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM
Came across this website. What's up with this guy, is he trolling, crazy, a self-promoting attention whore, legend in his own mind? Some combination of the above? Some stuff I missed? Have you even heard of this guy?

I mean, the guy seems to think he's famous and keeps advising celebrities with his voodoo blog, whether they read them or not. But I'm pretty sure Lady Gaga has never heard of him, nor has any interest in his advice about botched pacts.

http://doktorsnake.me/

Never heard of him - but he's from Norwich- out in the swamplands of the deep East- so that's hardly surprising. Just seems to be your average common or garden weirdo ploughing his own furrow. But he calls himself DoKtor, so yanno, make your own call on that one  :wink:

Nigel may be right but I'm not seeing why
"British voodoo bluesman? Sold his soul to the Devil? Book comes with lucky mojo doll? This has "humorist" written all over it."

From over here it looks more like "oddball" than humourist. Are you saying that a white boy from Norwich can't be a voodoo bluesman? Did you listen to the music btw, music itself is well listenable but the voice, meh, not so much. I did like his song about Mitt Romney: AIN'T GONNA SELL MY SOUL TO SATAN (GONNA SELL YOURS INSTEAD) http://doktorsnake.me/2012/10/11/mitt-romney-aint-gonna-sell-my-soul-to-satan-gonna-sell-yours-instead/
Anyhow, thanks for pointing this guy out, it was certainly worth a giggle to look him up even if I don't actually think he's a joke. [well not in all senses of that phrase]

Well, if it's not obviously funny to you, it's quite possible that he's not joking, as the elements of contradiction that make it jump out as a joke to me may be an American cultural thing. But to me, a white guy from Britain promoting himself as a leading expert in a regional Afro-American religion is the kind of contradictory/improbable scenario that Americans find hilarious, in the "it's funny because that could never happen!" way. On top of that, the "selling his soul to the Devil" thing is fundamentally incompatible with Voodoo, and on top of THAT, "Comes with lucky mojo doll!" is  :lol:
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 14, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense in that brits are often accused of ripping off the blues and hes probably using the word voodoo where he means hoodoo.
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 14, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
do what?
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Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 14, 2012, 11:07:48 PM
When in doubt, dont even try. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTj5nd2oKQ)
Title: Re: Hey English people
Post by: Phox on November 15, 2012, 01:25:20 AM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on November 14, 2012, 11:07:48 PM
When in doubt, dont even try. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTj5nd2oKQ)
Unlike some other Robin Hoods, I can speak with an English accent.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX4Ik-cyp-I)