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#31
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 23, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 23, 2009, 06:42:47 PM
I can't be arsed to bother following the intricacies of this overwhelmingly intelligent thread, but emo/scene/whatever you kids are calling your incessant need to be tacky about your stupid angst is indefensible and culturally worthless.

except for "scene-core" music, which is glorious.

Hey now, I'm not being tacky about my angst. That's all the other scene kids. I'm being tacky because I want to be cool like them. Because, you know, no one could ever honestly enjoy something other people don't see any purpose to.

Seriously though, I like scene fashion even though I hate the people. See that last guy you posted? That guy is probably an enormous twat. But I want that fucking hair. (Okay, not really. I want THIS hair.)
#32
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 23, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 23, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2009, 04:56:47 PM
Look who's talking, dude.  At least she didn't walk around with half her head shaved.  I fail to see how that's any weirder than "scene"...in fact, I'd say it WAS "scene".

I was talking about the huge overreacting response with sections in all-caps accusing me of saying her taste was bad because it was popular (which wasn't actually what I meant, though looking back it does look like it). And I wasn't hating scene for the weirdness so much as the sheer tackiness(hence my whole individuality post, as the only possible justification I can see for such horror is pursuit of individuality), though if you want to get technical, the difference between shaving half a head and scene is that there is no scene for having half a head shaved. The very definition of scene is that there's a scene for it. And my head only stayed like that for a few minutes. I don't even know why I did it in the first place anyway. I occasionally slip into fits of raving lunacy, and I did it during one of those.

Someone has never heard of R-Prime.
#33
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 23, 2009, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 23, 2009, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 23, 2009, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 23, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Scene Kidz - obSCENE

AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SepTSJGPluc

I just don't get it. Please explain to me what appeal, if any, resides in this hopeless cobbling-together of awful genres that you call music.

I don't get why you can't accept that this is the sort of thing I like. I'm not doing it to please an arbitrary group of people who I can't even stand being around, I'm doing it because I think it's cool. The same goes for the music. I like this shit. I don't -care- if you get it or not. It's my tastes. Fuck you if you have a problem.

how is this is a cobbling-together of musical styles btw, it sounds to me like your standard hiphop/rnb with a touch of electroclash, or whatever it's called [i never bothered to recall the names sorry], this has been playing in clubs I did not want to go to for years? or is it relatively new in the USA perhaps?

It's just a hip-hop subgenre called crunk as done by skinny white kids. Serious, no mixing involved, the guy's just stupid.

Also, yes, it's relatively new here. Have some links to the original european variety?
#34
That's not the case with me. I just like most music, period. Very little actually makes me want to listen to something else, and there's only one band I can't stand at all. (FUCK Enter Shikari.)

To be fair, scene music (both this stuff and the more standard Bring Me The Horizon deathcore stuff) does appeal to me more. I couldn't tell you why. brokeNCYDE and Hollywood Undead at least bring together a lot of genres I enjoy, but Scene Kidz is pretty standard crunk with new wallpaper and objectively there's very little that's interesting about A Day To Remember or Bring Me The Horizon. It's just my "thing," so to speak.
#35
At least get this fucking game playable.

Stop being a sniveling little bitch and just be a bitch.
#36
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 23, 2009, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 23, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Scene Kidz - obSCENE

AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SepTSJGPluc

I just don't get it. Please explain to me what appeal, if any, resides in this hopeless cobbling-together of awful genres that you call music.

I don't get why you can't accept that this is the sort of thing I like. I'm not doing it to please an arbitrary group of people who I can't even stand being around, I'm doing it because I think it's cool. The same goes for the music. I like this shit. I don't -care- if you get it or not. It's my tastes. Fuck you if you have a problem.
#37
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 23, 2009, 04:01:35 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 23, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 23, 2009, 03:07:10 PMJust need to note a few things

A: I don't give a shit if it's a uniform, it's a DAMN PRETTY uniform and I fuckin' LIKE it. Individuality is nice and all, but I like what I like and if individuality gets in the way of that shit, it can go eat Roger's sewage output.
B: I AM NOT PUTTING EFFORT INTO THIS. That implies time spent and money spent beyond what I would be spending normally. Fuck that shit. I get haircuts anyway, why not get haircuts I like? I get clothes anyway, why not get clothes I'd want to wear? It all works out to the same price in the end if I'm doing the damn shopping, is actually easier than finding something else I like (hence time saved) and I'm happy in the end. FUCK YOU FOR SAYING THAT I SHOULDN'T BE HAPPY BECAUSE WHAT I LIKE IS MORE POPULAR THAN MERZBOW AT A FRAT PARTY. BITCH.
C: I can't be assed GIVING A SHIT about how what I like is a business card that refers to the carrier as "I M DOUCHEBAG." I can't be assed caring if the fucking inbred assrabbits with necks so red you could COOK YOUR FUCKING BACON ON THEM in this area don't see me for who "I really am", whatever the fuck that is. I'm going to dress and act and listen to what the fuck I like and if you have a problem with it because it happens to be something that's popular, SHOVE THIS UP YOUR ASS.

</r-prime>

You're funny.

You're pretentious.
#38
Scene Kidz - obSCENE

AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SepTSJGPluc
#39
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 23, 2009, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 18, 2009, 10:19:49 AM
Take it from someone who's seen "Emo" a thousand times under a thousand guises - it's teen angst practised by a bunch of children who are convinced they're the first ones who ever felt this way :lulz:

They're not by the way and history suggests they wont be the last

They'll only feel more entitled every time. THANK YOU SCHOOLING.

Cait,
needs to get drunk then go on PD in the morning more often.
#40
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 23, 2009, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Shrunkenheadspace on December 21, 2009, 04:44:53 AM
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm sorry, emo kids might be the nicest people in the world, but their culture sucks. Horribly. It's just so petty and shallow. I guess the same could be said of all teen subcultures, but...
Well, fuck, it could. And would be true. You don't need a subculture. You want individuality? Be an individual. The thing about the scene look is that it's a uniform. You may think you're sticking out, but consider all the effort that you're putting into looking "scene". People don't see you as you, they see you as a scene kid. Here's a homework assignment: Watch the movie SLC Punk! It's extremely relevant to the subject of subcultures and identity. It may change your whole perspective on things and it's fucking entertaining too.

Oh, and scene music is terrible.  :argh!:

Just need to note a few things

A: I don't give a shit if it's a uniform, it's a DAMN PRETTY uniform and I fuckin' LIKE it. Individuality is nice and all, but I like what I like and if individuality gets in the way of that shit, it can go eat Roger's sewage output.
B: I AM NOT PUTTING EFFORT INTO THIS. That implies time spent and money spent beyond what I would be spending normally. Fuck that shit. I get haircuts anyway, why not get haircuts I like? I get clothes anyway, why not get clothes I'd want to wear? It all works out to the same price in the end if I'm doing the damn shopping, is actually easier than finding something else I like (hence time saved) and I'm happy in the end. FUCK YOU FOR SAYING THAT I SHOULDN'T BE HAPPY BECAUSE WHAT I LIKE IS MORE POPULAR THAN MERZBOW AT A FRAT PARTY. BITCH.
C: I can't be assed GIVING A SHIT about how what I like is a business card that refers to the carrier as "I M DOUCHEBAG." I can't be assed caring if the fucking inbred assrabbits with necks so red you could COOK YOUR FUCKING BACON ON THEM in this area don't see me for who "I really am", whatever the fuck that is. I'm going to dress and act and listen to what the fuck I like and if you have a problem with it because it happens to be something that's popular, SHOVE THIS UP YOUR ASS.

</r-prime>
#41
Quote from: themenniss on December 23, 2009, 09:45:27 AM
now THAT'S good parenting.
a role model to us all I'm sure.

i mean how can it be that you can't control your 14 year old son?
what my mum did with me during that phase: told me to keep it quiet and then i could game as much as i wanted. eventually the sleep deprivation made me stop.

This. Also I have chronic sleeping problems to begin with. So Yeah.
#42
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 18, 2009, 07:25:11 AM
Okay, JohNyx, so I read your answer to my post, it seems basically what happened is a misunderstanding of your original intent. I totally agree that these kids were full of themselves. I don't think that's going to go away though. I think it's only going to get worse.

As for what emo "is" -- I can't really say. It's not really a counterculture because it would LOVE to be completely mainstream. It's really sort of hard to define it because it's really just a group of kids who have sort of common musical tastes and won't tell you to suck it up when you start whining about insipid things.

Lastly, I get the feeling people here think I'm "scene" because I want to fit into that group. Let me tell you, it is the last group of human beings I want to be around. I only like the music and the fashion. The people are awful in ways I find hard to describe. I only know one scene kid who is bearable to be around, and she has some serious problems. (She's also my best friend IRL. Make of that what you will.)
#43
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 18, 2009, 06:55:03 AM
BrokeNCYDE do SOME of those but they don't hit all of them (for example, no glam, no chiptunes, no pop-punk guitars). I'm talking about bands that hit every single genre I listed in a single song. Blood on the Dance Floor comes close, but they've never hit chiptunes.

Also, the bit you noticed was going on the assumption that these kids only like the fashion because it helps them fit in. It was a generalization, I realize that. I'm sure quite a few people in the group got in because they enjoyed it, and there's probably even a significant number of them somewhere who didn't have their egos pumped so full of wank that they could flatten entire civilizations by swinging them around. I haven't met those ones yet, though.
#44
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: ATTN PAYNE
December 17, 2009, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 03:53:57 PM
I hate Google, personally. I would like to see this Wave collapse--OH GOD THE PUN! I HAD TO, SORRY--really, fuck Google.

I haven't tried Wave, but I'm afraid it'll be really slow on my computer because of excessive Javascript crap, and of course not working in Opera. Cause that's what those Evil Google Bastards do.

Otherwise, if you think it's a good idea, I'm not stopping you. Maybe leering a littlebit.

I tried it. Not TOO slow but no, it doesn't work in opera.
#45
Or Kill Me / Re: Reply to Emo Thread
December 17, 2009, 08:08:59 PM
I'm only "scene" because I enjoy a lot of the music and I'm one of the only people on Earth who honestly enjoys the fashion. Overly flashy clothes, fucked up looking hair (man I can't wait till I can afford fucking highlights), appropriating the concept of bling from hip-hop and the gender ambiguity Nigel mentioned. FUCK YES. Unfortunately, almost all of the people are enormous self-important douchebags, and I get more kicks out of trolling them on MySpace then I do trying to be part of their clique.

Also, for those who read too far into my making no immediate distinction between scene and emo, there is a HUGE difference. For one, scene music is everything ever smashed into one damn genre. Glam rock, pop-punk, hardcore punk, hip-hop, rave, FUCKING CHIPTUNES -- I've heard all of them together in one song before. I may have to grab an example at some point, because it's fucking great.

The fashion is mostly connected to emo by the hair. Everything else about it is, as with the music, every pop culture style from the early 80s onward being welded together into SOMETHING UNSPEAKABLE. Look at the linked picture above. IT IS EVERYTHING. All he's missing is cowboy boots and a damn trucker hat. Really. Oh, you want cybergoth too? Same guy. How about stereotypical "metal"/"goth" fashion? There's a Dahvie Vanity pic for that. (Dahvie is the unofficial leader of scene.) It's the best thing EVER.

The main thing that IS the same between emo and scene is the people. They're all whiny douchebags and many scene kids are the same ones who were in the emo crowd.