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#46
Quote from: Iptuous on December 16, 2009, 02:26:35 AM
f'real...

what would that translate into for job?  do they use clay modeling like that for games?

Yes.

High-poly renders are usually done by hand, but when you need it done quick and dirty and you don't have an in-house Z Brush expert, there's what's called a character reference sheet. It's usually sketches, but I've seen sculptures used. It basically consists of three views of the model: back, front, side. You have to get really good pictures of your sculpture against a blank background, though.

You can feed these into stuff like Max and get a rough but pretty close approximation of your target object if using sculptures, or a nearly finished model if you're using sketches. In either case it's ready for touchup work by whatever poor sap gets that job.

In my experience, sculpture-based character reference sheets are rare, though, because of inferior quality (even slightly uneven lighting leads to UGLY bullshit). More likely a job with that would be for a company responsible for those resin statues, IMO.
#48
Or Kill Me / Reply to Emo Thread
December 17, 2009, 12:35:44 PM
This can be considered a response to Emo: The Symptom of our Decay started by JohNyx. If you haven't read it, go do so. It's a good read, IMO, and it's pretty much the entire thing that started my writing this.

I think it's important, first off, that I make it clear where I'm coming from. If you asked anyone who knew me IRL or had seen me on my cam before it broke horribly, the first word out of their mouths you'd get is "scene". Scene is an offshoot of emo that's less about discontent in general and more about giant egos* (if you go by JohNyx's philosophical interpretation of emo, which, as I'll get to soon, I don't really believe is a very good interpretation to begin with) and "having fun". Sort of subverting emo, in its own way. So I am kind of biased and I think that's important to keep in mind.

Why do I disagree with JohNyx's interpretation, though, aside from the obvious bias? Maybe it's because I speak from something of an inside stance.

Before I became "scene" (ironically, after dropping out of high school) I always hung out with the emo crowd even though I was a better fit for the metalheads (considering music tastes and fashion choices).The first thing I noticed was they were all friendly. Aside from being a little bit wary of speaking about their music around people outside of the clique they seemed generally like just introverted people with some shared interests. They were very loyal friends to each other (not really me, though that's my fault, I always seem to be an observer in any social situation and never even tried to remedy that in this case) and often helped each other out. Stereotypes I immediately noticed were wrong both previously had applied to goths. Hmmm. I saw very little poetry writing, in fact very little interest in artistic endeavours of any sort. None of them seemed particularly depressed and while there were two cutters in the bunch of ~30 or so people, I was assured that there were far more cutters among the nerdy kids.

Of the stereotypical fashion traits that JohNyx stated in his post, I noticed only 4 and except hoodies, they never applied to more than half the people (and it's worth noting that everyone outside of the emo clique wore hoodies too). The other three were black clothes, tight pants and black nails. Stars never even appeared once. I don't know if that's maybe a Mexico-only thing, though? There was also a more often-cited trait that most of them shared, the weird hair. But considering that JohNyx didn't mention that himself, I'll just let that go.

The music tastes were most surprising to me. There was the expected pseudo-punk and alt-rock, along with a lot of slightly unexpected but not completely out there pieces of punk awesomeness, like old AFI and etc. But some of the other common music choices were just odd. I found 8 kids without God Module on their MP3 players, and only 1 who wasn't a huge thrash metal fan.

I can't really speak on the topic of MySpace regarding emo kids, because (surprisingly) none of the ones I met had one. I actually never really had a reason to get a MySpace until I went "scene". From what I've seen of MySpace after I got one, the emo kid flying-camera picture has spread to all sorts. I won't deny it started there, though, the girls of the group were exactly the type I'd expect to do that shit. As for the girls wearing tutus and shit.. Uh, I never EVER saw anything like that on MySpace or IRL. I dunno why I haven't found it on MySpace because that's exactly the shit I'd expect to find there, but the girls IRL were all super-serious tomboys with egos the size of world superpowers. They weren't really the type who would act stupid and post it on the internet, all things considered. (The boys, on the other hand, couldn't be serious if you put a gun to their head and told them that you just got done murdering their entire family. They even made lame jokes while bitching.)

Now to move to the philosophical part. I mentioned that they were all relatively friendly people, with the obvious caveat of "so long as you don't approach them like a complete douchebag". I feel it's also necessary to mention that none of them really seemed to express the variety of "discontent" JohNyx paints them with. I never heard much railing against the system, or idealistic passions or the like. I most clearly remember, in fact, asking one of them when I was 15 (they were about the same) "Why would you want to become an engineer when you grow up?"

The only real thing attitude-wise that they all shared was the dreaded Special Snowflake syndrome, where they were all, if not the most important people in the world, at least entitled to whatever the hell they wanted. They never really flipped out or anything if they didn't get their way, but they sure bitched about it a lot. It was the main reason I didn't become a part of that group fully. I got the feeling that they were EXPECTED to bitch regularly, and I don't know WTF would have happened to me when it came my turn to bitch and I could only give a half-hearted "everything's sort of okay, except maybe I'm a little tired and stuff."

The big difference here is that when I read "discontent" I think Problems With Big Things. Bitching about the state of the world, the government, laws, or even just rules set by your parents. The complaining and bitching that took place here was below the level of the most minor of the First World Problems thread entries. "Can you believe it, my mom wouldn't get my the new iPod. She's terrible." Seriously.

I guess if that's the problem JohNyx has with them, that's great because no one likes a whiner. But I got the impression that his worst problem with them was that instead of doing something about what bothered them, they just sort of bitched about it and kept living. Considering the things being bitched about, I'm personally happy that they just kept living their lives. I can't imagine any good coming from an indignant 15 year old trying to show his mom what's what for not getting him an iPod.

To conclude, JohNyx fucked up by (from what I gathered) trying to view emo through the same lens as punk and goth: as a counterculture. And it just isn't a counterculture, it doesn't even try to look like one. It's a bunch of teenagers who want to look cool while swinging their egos around, and that's really it. (Regarding the music choices, I think what happened with the non-obvious stuff was people in that local circle already had those interests and they just spread them. In one of the other towns there was a huge country fandom among the emos, for example.)

I will admit I'm speaking entirely from personal experience in a very small segment of Western Pennsylvania, and that said experience is probably atypical. But somehow I doubt that emos ANYWHERE are pretending to give a shit about politics or the state of the world or really much of anything. The very name of the subculture (emo, from emotional) implies getting hyped up about just about everything. And all the little slights leave very little emotional energy to give a shit about civilization sliding into the gutter.




*-Actually, scene is an offshoot of emo that's less about big egos and more about flaunting your big ego as flagrantly as possible. If I ever start talking about how much cooler I am than everyone else and how anyone who doesn't agree is just jealous, shoot me.
#49
Or Kill Me / Re: Emo: Symptom of our Decay
December 17, 2009, 10:40:29 AM
I've been meaning to respond to the OP for awhile because I disagree and agree on a lot of points. But as of right now I think it'll be better to just make a new rant fread that links to this one, because I think mine will be mostly going off on a tangent from this even if it starts related. Doing that immediately after this post.

Consider this a BUMP.
#51
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: ATTN PAYNE
December 17, 2009, 02:20:34 AM
Chat? Voice, video?

Wait, are you people seriously asking for Stickam?  :lulz: :lulz: I kid. But seriously, if you got something like that up and running that'd be awesome.
#52
I like jazz, dubstep (I can provide examples of good dubstep, too! I'm serious!), metal, J-pop, and any other genre you care to name. I only hate one band, and that is Enter Shikari. I hate Enter Shikari because they manage to take every genre I got into music with, and make it somehow suck so horribly even -I- hate it.

Also, Roger, if you hate dubstep, you will never get over this stuff called illbient.

On the subject of good dubstep... Look for Loefah's "Indian Dub". I'd give a Youtube but it only has the godawful Skream remix. If you like the harsher stuff, look no further than Roguestar's Stay Calm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEzqo__DBc&fmt=18 (Skip to :30 to avoid a long and shitty intro.)

And if you like stuff that's simply insane... http://new.music.yahoo.com/kraddy/tracks/godzilla--177456993 This song will give you enough to never stop laughing again. EDIT WRONG SONG LOOKING AGAIN.EDIT IT'S GONE FROM THE INTERNET. THE SONG I WAS THINKING OF HAD WACKY JAPANESE SINGING AND WEIRDNESS AND I CANNOT FIND IT. SORRY.
#53
I said we live in the projects too. The  so-called "owners" have never set foot inside any of these places and probably don't even know what the outsides look like.
#54
I am in fact stuck living here. Sucks, but we can't move. I personally am moving sans family, however, as soon as I can make my computer and important data something I can carry in a bag. (I'm hoping I can buy that laptop soon...) It's scary, yeah, but like I said, I have a Safe Place and that makes it something I can deal with for awhile.

D is the big one, yes. (How is A not valid? Video recording devices are damn expensive, especially ones worth half a damn. I have a broken webcam. Broken as in doesn't work at all.) I know I'm not being fucked with, I've seen the things appear and disappear before my eyes, we've all been in the room at the same time during such occasions, the screams and such often occur when everyone's asleep, etc. (Also worth mentioning that these are NOT stories. The stuff in my last post is stuff that I have personally witnessed with the (noted) exception of stitches-face, who I don't believe exists.)

I don't WANT to find out I'm hallucinating hardcore all the time though. If I start seeing things in every day life, that's different. But while these things do (rarely) interfere with my life, they are strictly confined to the inside of my house. The panic presence can follow me out the door by ten feet at most, and after that point I see nothing, hear nothing, feel nothing. I'm fine. I don't want to end up taking drugs enough to put me in a waking coma for days at a time, or being locked up in the psych unit just because of something that occurs solely in my house that OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED. Even if I'm hallucinating them noticing it or other Matrixy "What is actually fucking real?" stuff.
#55
Four big reasons I haven't.

A: I have nothing to film them with. Really.

B: The "patterns" aren't perfect for the apparitions. There are no circumstances where they will appear for certain no questions asked.

C: These things are fucking SCARY. All of them (except the mist, which I imagine would be hard to film) carry with them a feeling of pure, unadulterated piss-all-over-the-floor, scream-and-run-and-hope-you-can-hide, heart-thumping, pants-shitting TERROR. My tests led to a lot of screams and at least one occasion of minor injury. If I could think enough to get the camera out, I could make no guarantee of holding it straight enough to film jack shit.

D: Even if none of the above were true, I'm scared of finding out it's all in my head. That would be the worst thing for me. I already KNOW I'm nuts, but I don't want to be -that- nuts.
#56
I've been doing some testing. It might just be in my head, as said before, but it seems like there's more activity when I do certain things. For example, having either a lot of lights on or no lights on both seem to cause the activity. Having just 4 or 5 seems fine.

The louder I am downstairs, the more obvious the panic presence is. If I'm dead quiet it's just a little nagging itch at the back of my head telling me I'm not welcome the entire time until I'm back in my room. If I'm loud, it'll make me feel significantly less uneasy until I get to the stairs when it becomes blinding "GET THE FUCK OUT".

The black mists are connected to low light. If it's too dark they won't appear (or maybe they just blend in) and if it's too bright they won't appear. The smells and sounds are connected to people in some way. If more than one person is awake, the smells appear. The sounds only occur when one person is awake and are at their peak when that person is trying to sleep.

The apparitions are mostly unconnected, but they appear MOSTLY either at early morning (like just before dawn) or dead middle of the day, always up stairs and usually near the stairwell. They are ALL faceless, headless, or in one case without anything above the waist. (Though my mom said she recently saw one with huge black stitches all over the blank face, I don't buy that because it doesn't fit the pattern and sounds like fucking Silent Hill. Plus I haven't seen it.) They appear in predictable patterns, but they seem very aware. I had the misfortune of being menaced into my room by a headless man earlier today, for example, who then slammed the door shut.

Mostly I've felt rather safe in my room, which is why I've been ignoring this. It doesn't seem as important so long as I have a Safe Place, which was being violated strongly when I posted this.

For the curious, I've looked some of the stuff up regarding the history of the place. There WAS a fire, but no one was home when it happened. The history of the land is pretty vague, but apparently it was never much of anything until the county bought it from the land owner and turned it into a housing project. (Yeah, it's the projects. I'm poor, stfu.) The city DID have a lot of citizens involved in the civil war, but to the best of my knowledge there were never houses in the area of where I'm living until recent times.

I've also contacted some people in the "ghost hunting" field, and they're all telling me that it fits a "demonic" haunting. I'd giggle at them, except that faceless people in offensively formal clothing and things that are missing everything above the waist are fucking scary as hell and these "experts" all admit that they don't know what "demon" means except "definitely-not-human".

FTR, I don't really take ghost-hunters seriously but I DEFINITELY take ghosts seriously and these are different from all the hauntings I've read up on. (And if anyone knows of any similar hauntings that they've read of, hook me up, I'm interested.) That being the case, I say the ghost-hunter "demon" is as good a guess as anyone is capable of offering.
#57
I like jazz more than most music, simply because it's the roots of a lot of modern music.

That said, most music people know as jazz is either best listened to in the spirit of Merzbow, or listened to while passed out cold.

I prefer me some big band jazz. Horn sections the size of a third world country? Fuck yeah.
#58
Quote from: Fredamir Putin on December 13, 2009, 12:42:24 AM
random order just cause...i dunno. feel free to laugh at me. im more of a download one song person, so here are ones where i like at least half of the stuff.

Backstreet boys - millennium  :lol:
Our Lady Peace - Gravity
Feist - The Reminder
CocoRosie - The Adventures Of Ghosthorse And Stillborn
Wicked - Original broadway cast...lol
Yo-yo Ma - Bach: the cello suites
Master and Commander - soundtrack. no rly its good!
Adele - 19
Ingird Michaelson - Everybody
Chevelle - wonder whats next LADY GAGA - THE FAME.... YEAH!

also songs from disney movies....  :D

FRED OWNS
#60
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Kindles = Hitler
December 12, 2009, 05:01:53 AM
Tapes sucked unless you were a musician working with tape loops.