This is awesome. Growling and wailing; mid-tempo stuff that reminds of old school Dismember, stuff so slow it could probably out-doom Funerary Dirge.
Thanks. Seriously.
Thanks. Seriously.
We've got artists, scientists, scholars, pranksters, publishers, songwriters, and political activists. We've subjected Discordia to scrutiny, torn it apart, and put it back together. We've written songs about it, we've got a stack of essays, and, to refer back to your quote above, we criticize the hell out of each other.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 02, 2009, 02:18:22 PMQuote from: Z³ on December 02, 2009, 02:15:09 AMQuote from: null & void on December 02, 2009, 02:02:32 AMQuote from: Z³ on December 01, 2009, 08:56:00 AMQuote from: Rip City Hustle on December 01, 2009, 08:23:58 AM
Perhaps i should revisit BDM. I don't think I've listened to anything they've put out more recently than, say, 2005.
And I generally trust your taste in Metal.
I'm not saying they're that great.
Listen to Wormphlegm.
Um, what's wrong with Wormphlegm?
Seriously. Everyone I know who has heard them thinks they're the pinnacle of funeral doom.
Thats basically what I was saying, they're my fav band right now.
Last night I flipped shit because I discovered that I missed out on a lot of good Funeral Doom, mainly Wormphlegm and Ahab.
Oh, and the new skepticism.
It makes me really happy to see some new shit happening in that genre.
I guess they're really more death-doom, though they do play pretty fucking slow, but I've really got into the band Ataraxie lately. Hard to find their CDs though.
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 02, 2009, 02:37:43 AMQuote from: null & void on December 02, 2009, 02:27:52 AMQuote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 02, 2009, 02:20:59 AM
I didn't go to school, and I did whatever I wanted all the time.
Which, quite frankly, isn't as awesome as it might sound. Most of the time what I wanted involved hiding in the woods, killing things and eating them raw. Adapting to civilized life took some doing.
I can't help but at this. I'm so sorry.
Why not? It's pretty funny, in retrospect.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 01, 2009, 06:30:53 PMQuote from: Iptuous on December 01, 2009, 06:29:57 PM
when you talk about the liberals, are you referring to the masses of people in the country that have truly liberal ideas?
lol wut
Quote from: Cain on December 01, 2009, 08:42:06 AM
I found someone willing to defend this (someone who isn't a member of a neo-fascist party, anyway, naturally they're all overjoyed):
hxxp://jmw.typepad.com/political_warfare/2009/11/why-the-swiss-vote-against-minarets-is-so-important.htmlQuoteSix out of ten Swiss voters acted on facts that many in the western democracies still fail to recognize: The political warfare battle that Islamist extremists are waging against free societies.
Last weekend's referendum to ban the further construction of minarets in Switzerland was not against the religious aspects of Islam - it was specifically a defensive mechanism against the legal and political revolutions that Islamists are waging against secular democracies.
The surprise Swiss vote was a significant fightback against creeping sharia law that is corroding the free fabric of much of Europe and North America. We should be applauding the Swiss for their stand. They remain tolerant of the religious freedoms of hundreds of thousands of Muslims who live in their country, but draw the line on sharia practices that would undermine their democratic way of life.
Western liberals, Islamic leaders, the government Iran and, surprisingly, the Vatican, condemned the vote. But the critics miss the point: The vote was not against religion, but was a line against foreign political encroachment.
Proponents of the minaret ban "said from the outset that they were not seeking to prevent Muslims from practicing their religion," the Washington Post reports.
"We just want to stop further Islamisation in Switzerland, I mean political Islam. People may practice their religion, that is no problem," Swiss MP Walter Wobmann tells Reuters. "The minaret is the power symbol of political Islam and Sharia law."
The minaret is "a political symbol against integration; a symbol more of segregation, and first of all, a symbol to try to introduce sharia law parallel to Swiss rights," Swiss MP Ulrich Schlüer tells the Los Angeles Times.
"On one hand Islam is a religion. But on the other hand Islam grants its followers a certain social behaviour. Islam requires its followers to apply certain rules, a certain religious law that we call Sharia. And Sharia law is not at all compatible with our law as it stands today in this country, Switzerland. Our law and Sharia law are at odds with each other," Schlüer says in Euronews.
"The outcome of the vote is a reflection of the fears and uncertainties that exist among the population, and concerns that Islamic fundamentalist ideas could lead to the establishment of parallel societies," Swiss Justice Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf says in Time magazine. The minister adds, "marginalization and exclusion on the basis of religious and cultural differences would be devastating for an open country such as Switzerland."
That's precisely the point. Islamist radicals for a decade have tried to silence their critics by branding them as racists and bigots, all the while imposing their political symbolism and demanding acceptance of their un-democratic ideology. They're doing it again right now. Indeed, the Swiss are facing a global backlash.
"Initiative sponsors said they wanted to prevent Islamic extremism from seeping across the borders from other European countries with large Muslim populations," according to the LA Times. "'When you look at the European Union, where are there extremists?' asks Schlüer, the member of parliament. 'In the suburbs and ghetto banlieues of Paris and London. . . . We don't want that in Switzerland.'
"He said Muslims were welcome in Switzerland but must assimilate into Swiss society."
And that's the point that practically all the critics - from the Muslim, Christian, "progressive" and business sectors - seem willfully to miss.
Yes, if only we had stopped minarets from being built, then the 7/7 bombings and Madrid attacks never would've happened. Speaking as someone who had someone very close to me involved in the 7/7 bombings and who was in London directly after the attacks, I have to say that is an appalling piece of political sophistry. Reading this is like having a burnt corpse dropped in my morning coffee
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 01, 2009, 05:20:24 PMQuote from: Jerry_Frankster on December 01, 2009, 07:06:34 AM
Pointy mini-barns, FTW.
make it a brauhaus, selling beer and pork. piss off both parties at the same time!!
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 02, 2009, 02:20:59 AM
I didn't go to school, and I did whatever I wanted all the time.
Which, quite frankly, isn't as awesome as it might sound. Most of the time what I wanted involved hiding in the woods, killing things and eating them raw. Adapting to civilized life took some doing.
Quote from: Z³ on December 01, 2009, 08:56:00 AMQuote from: Rip City Hustle on December 01, 2009, 08:23:58 AM
Perhaps i should revisit BDM. I don't think I've listened to anything they've put out more recently than, say, 2005.
And I generally trust your taste in Metal.
I'm not saying they're that great.
Listen to Wormphlegm.
Quote from: Regret on November 30, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
There is no deeper meaning to what They do to eachother.
This is Reality and the screaming will never stop.
Quote from: Cainad on November 29, 2009, 05:51:14 PMSeconded.Quote from: Suu on November 29, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
Yeah, it's going to take a few moments of meditation to get myself to a calm happy place to confront her without an aluminum baseball bat.
TGRR is a deity of serenity and calm in some cultures. Channel him for inspiration.
Cainad,
ten bad ideas for every good one
QuoteHe added: “I had no idea people could get so obsessed. But it’s not scary - it’s amazing. People just project their idea of my character on to me and they just seem to assume that I’m the same, when in reality I’m not.”
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 29, 2009, 05:26:57 AMQuote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 28, 2009, 08:29:49 PMHow about Rick Warren? http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-07/the-truth-about-rick-warren-in-africa/
I can't wait to hear Pat Robertson praise this bill.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 28, 2009, 10:51:41 PMQuote from: Da6s on November 28, 2009, 10:00:03 PM
Other news, same topic, Apparently DC's C Street group is tied to this bill:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2009/11/25/the-family-c-street-group-tied-to-uganda-death-penalty-for-gays/
OK, you know what, fuck it. I'm through being reasonable. I'm going to go be a paranoid delusional nutjob who rants about global conspiracies on the internet. Because apparently somewhere along the way reality decided it really wanted to be a bad spy novel, and there's no room left for being sane, just different flavors of delusional.