Put links and text for all good propagandic stuff in here. Anything else will be deleted or moved.
First off, let's mention http://poee.co.uk/web/modules.php?name=Downloads for classic stuff.
Here's a PDF that was created for the Machine,Ñ¢.
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/68444/mach-001-pdf.html
A suggestion: If you are travelling, get a Gmail or other large space email account and email propaganda to yourself. If its anything like the UK, the internet cafes and library will charge 5 pence or something similar a page.
Good idea.
Also: Later today, I will post a link to BIP audio rants.
hey LMNO, is there a way that you can get me the PDF via email or another link? Unfortunately it's blocked at work for "personal storage and backup".
Damn the man.
Sure. PM me an email address.
MORE, MORE
FEED ME MORE
The City of White Plains is gonna get it today. The kids were hoping for a snow day, and they're gonna get a blizzard. A blizzard of nonsense.
update: POSTERGASM materials here:
Tools and Tips for Culture Jamming
Postergasm: Volume Aleph (http://www.scribd.com/doc/11251009/Postergasm-Collection-Volume-Aleph)
Postergasm: Volume Dingus (http://www.scribd.com/doc/11251113/Postergasm-Collection-Volume-Dingus)
Postergasm: Volume Calvinball (http://www.scribd.com/doc/11251107/Postegasm-Collection-Volume-Calvinball)
Postergasm: Volume Butts (http://www.scribd.com/doc/11251178/Postergasm-Collection-Volume-Butts)
Postergasm: Disinfomercials (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=22527.0)
23 things to Amuse Yourself While You Wait (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14860822/23-Things-to-Amuse-Yourself-While-You-Wait)
101 Ways to Make Everybody's Day Weirder (http://www.scribd.com/doc/10563605/101-Ways-to-Make-Everybodys-Day-Weirder)
Why I Put Up Posters (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Why_I_Put_Up_Posters)
It makes me wonder about the homeless that received a copy of TGRR's rant that I passed out last week, and if they have been enlightened. Just passing them out gave me a warm fuzzy.
As more is generated, more shall be posted.
I was poking around on my PC at home (until my wife came in, boy THAT was emberassing)
and I found a couple of older flyers/brochures. One was the one-sheet of assorted meme-bombs that ended with the line "We cordially invite you to a jailbreak" another I think was a brochure that vex had come up with. Anyway, would those be helpful here?
The latter, if formatted.
The former, only if arranged in a layout condusive to crack & peel stickers.
Also, there are TGRR's flyers. I'll ask him if he wants to move them in here.
In other news, my office got a few new all-in-ones that put Staples to shame. I'm going to "test their features" later and assemble some of the Machine,Ñ¢ brochures for our break room.
Quote from: Cain on January 29, 2007, 05:50:12 PM
Also, there are TGRR's flyers.  I'll ask him if he wants to move them in here.
Were those ever laid out?
In pdf form? I think TOA hosted some, I don't know where though.
Well, if we have a standing invitation to distribute, i think we should lay them out in PDF form, and run w/ it.
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2007, 05:42:55 PM
The latter, if formatted.
The former, only if arranged in a layout condusive to crack & peel stickers.
if their not good enough for this thread, please post them in the BIP forum?
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:01:04 PM
In pdf form? I think TOA hosted some, I don't know where though.
Those are on POEE.
I just found theses today.
http://www.poee.co.uk/toa/
http://toa267.deviantart.com/gallery/
Where the fuck is toa anyhoo?
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
Quote from: Penumbral on June 30, 2007, 09:16:38 PM
I just found theses today.
http://www.poee.co.uk/toa/
http://toa267.deviantart.com/gallery/
bumped for myself
because I was looking for this earlier
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 13, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
What's that saying in the Principia?
FLYING BABYSHIT!!!!!!-toa,
busy babysitting and working on a script compiler for his video game...
Quote from: the other anonymous on December 18, 2007, 04:33:40 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 13, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
What's that saying in the Principia?
FLYING BABYSHIT!!!!!!
-toa,
busy babysitting and working on a script compiler for his video game...
You might want to switch to Huggies. They tend to do a better job of keeping that shit in check.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 18, 2007, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on December 18, 2007, 04:33:40 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 13, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
What's that saying in the Principia?
FLYING BABYSHIT!!!!!!
-toa,
busy babysitting and working on a script compiler for his video game...
You might want to switch to Huggies. They tend to do a better job of keeping that shit in check.
Yes, but should I strive for ECMA-262 compliance or just do a bare-bones "this is an int, that's a function, and it'll never be JIT'd because I don't want to ship GCC as part of my runtime"?
-toa,
that's a big muthafuckin wheel to reinvent!
Quote from: the other anonymous on December 18, 2007, 04:33:40 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 13, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
What's that saying in the Principia?
FLYING BABYSHIT!!!!!!
-toa,
busy babysitting and working on a script compiler for his video game...
Just where the gibbering fuck have YOU been, you faithless hussy?
Where is the "Stranger Danger" PDF/GIF?
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but what the hell...
Do not read this sign (pdf)--http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/Donotreadthissign.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/Donotreadthissign.pdf)
If you have any suggestions, let me know. Eventually, I hope to host all of the stuff I have downloaded over the last few years from this site (shinokamen.aokhost.com)
Edit: Apparently aokhost killed my site. Same goes for the next post.
Here are two meme bomb sticker sheets I made. Tell me which is best and I will try to come up with a better one later. Suggestions welcome.
Large size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 1.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%201.pdf))
Small size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 2.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%202.pdf))
Edit: Again, my site now appears to be dead.
Quote from: shinokamen on June 13, 2008, 04:13:48 AM
Here are two meme bomb sticker sheets I made. Tell me which is best and I will try to come up with a better one later. Suggestions welcome.
Large size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 1.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%201.pdf))
Small size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 2.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%202.pdf))
The best parts of those are the ones that didn't get non-proportionally scaled.
If you want a vertical font, use a vertical font, don't squish and distort it.
Those parts look amateur.
You also might consider adding more leading so they're easier to cut out.
I dig it!
They're a good size, easily spottable from a distance. A lot of the ones on net's fullpage pdf are hard to notice, so I dig the options we now have.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on June 13, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
I dig it!
They're a good size, easily spottable from a distance. A lot of the ones on net's fullpage pdf are hard to notice, so I dig the options we now have.
Good point.
That stencil font is surprisingly legible.
What do you guys think of this?
http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/DHMO.pdf
I made it up rather quickly for use in and around a school, so it isn't really polished up. Thought I'd put it here for others to use.
Edit: Link is dead.
good enough that I read a big chunk of it and was like, "wait a minute, did he just post an actual health poster to spoof us?" then I saw the bit about cyclones. So I think it's believable. :p
I like how you call it DHMO, and say it's a "major component of acid rain".
Actually, I stole most of that information from DHMO.org. I was thinking of making a few more with different information.
related link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax
Quote from: Rev. His-Name's-What? on December 18, 2007, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: the other anonymous on December 18, 2007, 04:33:40 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 13, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
toa arrives every once in awhile. But there seem to be rather large gaps between the whiles.
What's that saying in the Principia?
FLYING BABYSHIT!!!!!!
-toa,
busy babysitting and working on a script compiler for his video game...
You might want to switch to Huggies. They tend to do a better job of keeping that shit in check.
I find Pampers are the best (do you get those?). The Huggies always leaked with our boys. Then you're back to Flying Babyshit again.
Quote from: Netaungrot on June 13, 2008, 05:37:17 AM
Quote from: shinokamen on June 13, 2008, 04:13:48 AM
Here are two meme bomb sticker sheets I made. Tell me which is best and I will try to come up with a better one later. Suggestions welcome.
Large size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 1.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%201.pdf))
Small size (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme stickers 2.pdf (http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/discordia/meme%20stickers%202.pdf))
The best parts of those are the ones that didn't get non-proportionally scaled.
If you want a vertical font, use a vertical font, don't squish and distort it.
Those parts look amateur.
You also might consider adding more leading so they're easier to cut out.
TITCM
Quote from: shinokamen on July 21, 2008, 05:05:17 AM
What do you guys think of this?
http://shinokamen.aokhost.com/DHMO.pdf
I made it up rather quickly for use in and around a school, so it isn't really polished up. Thought I'd put it here for others to use.
i made one for summer-times that refers to crystalline DHMO, called "Ice" or just "Crystal" on the "streets."
i'll format it now i gots some time on my hands. post date: TBA
figured i'd drop this here - mods feel free to re-locate to a placed deemed more suitable.
(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/wcower7.gif)
Haha! I like that.
That used to be my avatar here, for a while.
Naturally, I approve of its presence and use.
Do we have stickers in return address size labels?
Quote from: Suu on September 13, 2008, 09:20:36 PM
Do we have stickers in return address size labels?
Why yes, yes we do:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=17698.0
How about 5660/8660 format?
Cainad,
Has 300 clear labels that need something to do with their lives.
None of those yet, AFAIK. google something like "5660 templates". That's how we got the 5160 size sticker templates.
Nothing for OpenOffice. God damn, is it really such an uncommon format? :(
FUCKING VICTORY
Scribus has a download for the Avery 8660 format. I can't really recommend it though, because it's buggy as hell and crashed about 12 times while I was putting this together. The frequent crashings, along with the fact that it takes a good 3 minutes to walk to the computer lab (where I get 40 pages per day of free printing) at a brisk pace, and also the fact that the template is imperfect and my first several tests came out badly (at which point I would have to walk back to my dorm room and make adjustments to the file), combined to make this shitty-ass label sheet take a good four to five hours of work to bang out.
And I would put it here for you twits to download, except the Attach File option seems to have disappeared :?
Edit: never mind, I'll use mihd: http://mihd.net/oivtnq0
Quote from: Cainad on September 26, 2008, 04:39:43 AM
FUCKING VICTORY
Scribus has a download for the Avery 8660 format. I can't really recommend it though, because it's buggy as hell and crashed about 12 times while I was putting this together. The frequent crashings, along with the fact that it takes a good 3 minutes to walk to the computer lab (where I get 40 pages per day of free printing) at a brisk pace, and also the fact that the template is imperfect and my first several tests came out badly (at which point I would have to walk back to my dorm room and make adjustments to the file), combined to make this shitty-ass label sheet take a good four to five hours of work to bang out.
And I would put it here for you twits to download, except the Attach File option seems to have disappeared :?
Edit: never mind, I'll use mihd: http://mihd.net/oivtnq0
Welcome to the print world.
:lulz:
Also,
:mittens:
Quote from: Netaungrot on September 26, 2008, 08:43:40 AM
Welcome to the print world.
:lulz:
Also,
:mittens:
1. :x
2. :lulz:
3. :D :thanks:
Also, the printer there has a golden apple in it. It never prints on the same side of a sheet of paper twice, meaning I printed labels on the wrong side of the sheet once.
As a result of my wearying efforts, I have developed a new catchphrase: "Nothing works, ever." D/N/T
My college, like so many institutions, requires a stamp of approval for stuff to be posted. I stole it:
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/186/approvedva4.jpg)
Here it is again, in Avery 8660 format: http://mihd.net/45zxtig
hxxp://www.davidshrigley.com/photo_htmpgs/notice.html
This might be interesting to plaster up.
YOU ARE A POPE trifold flyer. As I've mentioned once or twice on POEE, I like trifold pamphlets for handouts for a number of reasons, and I've re-formatted a few things into trifold for great justice. It's formatted so that a Popecard (or card of some other kind, I suppose) can be taped over the 'lick here' box. Enjoy. Or, y'know, don't.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HVPV0PA3
----------------
The noise in my head is: De Heideroosjes - Damclub hooligan (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/de+heideroosjes/track/damclub+hooligan)
Iason's "You are a target audience" memebomb as a (very basic) poster:
http://ifile.it/49p8fji/targetaudience.pdf
Quote from: Penumbral on June 30, 2007, 09:16:38 PM
I just found theses today.
http://www.poee.co.uk/toa/
http://toa267.deviantart.com/gallery/
Bump for LMNO.
My first attempts. They may be a tad too forward, so advice and suggestions are welcomed.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21609477/Did-You-Know
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21476247/DON-T
Quote from: Vitamin Dimo on October 25, 2009, 06:19:05 PM
My first attempts. They may be a tad too forward, so advice and suggestions are welcomed.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21609477/Did-You-Know
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21476247/DON-T
I like these, especially the second one. My suggestions would be to use fewer exclamation points (mimicking the style of official government anti-terror propaganda, which doesn't tend to use many exclamation points) and maybe making the first one a little less obviously a joke. But that's just me... I like posters that are subtle enough that someone will probably take them seriously at first.
Quote from: Nigel on October 27, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
Quote from: Vitamin Dimo on October 25, 2009, 06:19:05 PM
My first attempts. They may be a tad too forward, so advice and suggestions are welcomed.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21609477/Did-You-Know
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21476247/DON-T
I like these, especially the second one. My suggestions would be to use fewer exclamation points (mimicking the style of official government anti-terror propaganda, which doesn't tend to use many exclamation points) and maybe making the first one a little less obviously a joke. But that's just me... I like posters that are subtle enough that someone will probably take them seriously at first.
Thanks. I was thinking the same thing about the exclaimation points and I agree about the subtlety. I have another idea that I'm working on. I'll post it up when it's finished.
Agree with nigel. Good posters! less exclamation points. Less hyperbole.
Anti-Swiss poster (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21609477/Did-You-Know)
A government issued poster would never refer to something as "up to no good" or "evil" ("axis of evil" nonwithstanding). Use the same fnord-words that you'd see if it was in the paper or evening news. Instead of "Evils of Neutrality" maybe allude to a Sin of Omission.
riffing on the Good Samaritan law might be funny too. Like that these neutral countries are complicit in evil because they're not trying to stop it.
It's a funny poster - obviously a joke with the "swiss cheese punchline". If you were to create a more straightfaced version of this gag, I'd strip out the punchlines
Don't Be Afraid! (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21476247/DON-T)
Like Nigel, this is my favorite of the two. It might strenghten it to draw a contrast between the "dangerous" terrorists and the "friendly" authorities.
Both posters could use some images. Official looking iconography is always a good bet to make a poster look official. Throw a letterhead on there, and/or an official town seal. I'm a fan of says-it (http://www.says-it.com/seal/) to generate seals.
and many, many posters will stay up longer if you include this mystic glyph:
AUTHORIZED FOR PUBLIC POSTING, CODE 00523E.
OFFICE OF THE TILER
"Tiler", by the way, is a masonic title. If the cops are illuminati as well, this might send them directly to mindfucked. :fnord: :tinfoilhat:
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Intel/dhs-large.png)
Probably the best choice for any official iconography
Also
this
http://www.dafont.com/dead-letter-office.fonthttp://www.dafont.com/dead-letter-office.font
@Nigel-Thanks! :D
@Cramulus-Awesome advice! I appreciate it greatly! That say-it site is the mutha-fuckin' :fap:!
I've redone both posters.
Swiss Terror. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21763849/)
Changed wording and added some images. I'm mainly going to be printing this is gray-scale, so hopefully the Swiss flag won't be so in-your-face.
Don't be Afraid! (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21764986/Don-t-be-Afraid)
I think this one cleaned up pretty well.
Now, I know that it may not mean much to you guys, but I have never been good with computers, but the encouragement I received has motivated me to attempt to teach myself these things (heck, I didn't even know what a "hyper-link" was until today :oops:), and I want to thank you for that. They may not be much, but they are my first creations and I am very proud right now :D
In fact, this is the first thing to motivate me in a while. I couldn't sleep last night because I was thinking about this so much. And today I ditched class to come home and work on them. This is so addicting. I'm soooo going to make more. :mrgreen:
Thanks again!
Nice work, Dimo! These look much more eye grabbing, and the language is much sharper than in the first pass. These things usually take a few passes and a few pairs of eyes before they're kallisti gold.
minor: the swiss poster has a dangling second page, which is blank
It really is worth your time to figure out how these tech things work. The more I learn about computers, memetics, and design, the more fluidly my ideas seem to disperse through the aether. And with the internet getting so pervasive and ubiquitous (I mean it's on people's phones now for chissakes), it's only going to get more important to know how to use it effectively.
Quote from: Vitamin Dimo on October 28, 2009, 07:43:00 PM
@Nigel-Thanks! :D
@Cramulus-Awesome advice! I appreciate it greatly! That say-it site is the mutha-fuckin' :fap:!
I've redone both posters.
Swiss Terror. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21763849/)
Changed wording and added some images. I'm mainly going to be printing this is gray-scale, so hopefully the Swiss flag won't be so in-your-face.
Don't be Afraid! (http://www.scribd.com/doc/21764986/Don-t-be-Afraid)
I think this one cleaned up pretty well.
Now, I know that it may not mean much to you guys, but I have never been good with computers, but the encouragement I received has motivated me to attempt to teach myself these things (heck, I didn't even know what a "hyper-link" was until today :oops:), and I want to thank you for that. They may not be much, but they are my first creations and I am very proud right now :D
In fact, this is the first thing to motivate me in a while. I couldn't sleep last night because I was thinking about this so much. And today I ditched class to come home and work on them. This is so addicting. I'm soooo going to make more. :mrgreen:
Thanks again!
I think they look great! I'll definitely make use of them in my neighborhood.
:thumb:
Some new stuff I've been working on...
Do the Right Thing! (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22170321/Doing-the-Right-Thing)
I forgot to convert the pics to grey-scale, so you'd have to just print them that way to make them look right.
This next one I made specifically for slipping into copies of my campus newspaper.
Orange Alert Sale. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22170238/Orange-Alert)
This next one was inspired by Toa (http://toa267.deviantart.com/gallery/)'s Chao series, which I enjoy due to it's simplicity. While I'm not really bringing anything new to the concept, I am trying to give it a little bit of my own spin and will eventually make some more.
You're Not Breaking the Law. (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22090738/Breaking-Law)
I was thinking about removing the "'till you get caught" bit.
As always, suggestions or advice are welcomed and appreciated.
Quote from: dimo on November 05, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
This next one was inspired by Toa (http://toa267.deviantart.com/gallery/)'s Chao series
I'm always a bit weirded-out when someone refers to something as mine, especially when it was a group effort.
-toa,
doesn't actually do anything
Also: "Doing the Right Thing" is :mittens:
Dimo, those were awesome
big improvement over the first batch. I love 'em!
:mittens:
Those are GREAT! :mittens:
:thanks:
All those mittens mean a lot to me, especially coming from you guys!
ToA-I just wanted to make sure that people knew that that particular flyer was inspired by the Chao series and direct them to some great stuff. Tell your friends I really like them.
Cram/Nigel-I'm learning a lot from you guys and the experiences (both in spreading and creating these ideas), beyond computer skills. I've learned to slow the fuck down, there's no use in rushing around to try and "prove my worth" anymore for me. It'll be ready when it's ready. I spent a few days beating myself up trying to do certain things on the computer that were difficult for me and almost gave up entirely. But then, as soon as I stopped trying so hard, the "Do the Right Thing" idea came to me, almost as if a daemon came into possession of my mind. It's been a weird few weeks filled with crazy dreams and visions, and I am very happy to be able to contribute something to such an inspiring group of people. I'm going to continue to make more... When they're ready.
dimo-
Thinks he's finally starting to "get it."
Quote from: dimo on November 06, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
I've learned to slow the fuck down, there's no use in rushing around to try and "prove my worth" anymore for me.
dimo-
Thinks he's finally starting to "get it."
This. It's been noticeable.
But I still hate you. Like this ---> :tgrr:
Thanks Rog. :fnord:
Quote from: dimo on November 06, 2009, 06:04:47 PM
Thanks Rog. :fnord:
It's just one of many services I offer.
Snagged a few quickies from the one sentence meme bombs (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11054.0) thread and incorporated them into the "Chao Revisited" series (corny name? whatever...). The look of the flyer has been improved. Credit is given to whomever posted the 'bomb. If it came from somewhere else, please correct me!
Sheep (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22346244/Sheep)
A common one around here, not exactly sure who first coined it.
Conclusion (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22346242/Conclusion)
I first saw this in Fomentors sig, I beleive it's attributed to RWHN
Equality (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22346250/Equal)
Saint Aini
These next few are my own. Well, not mine, per-se. Kopyleft and all that. You know what I mean...
Breaking the law (updated) (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22345878/Breaking-the-Law)
Hope (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22346388/Hope)
Reason/Purpose (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22346247/Reason-Purpose)
Hmph. Straggler.
Common Sense (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22347145/Common-Sense)
These are pretty good. I like the layout & font selection. They're definitely eye grabbing.
Here's another misc. tip - partially for you, partially for anybody that's making posters-----
One thing to be careful of with one-line-meme-bombs is that sometimes the closer your phrase is to sounding like a commercial slogan or catchphrase, the less memorable it is. The brain filters out most of the stuff it sees over the course of the day. You may be making a good point (ie, the last one in your set suggests that common sense is actually fairly uncommon), but remember that your posters are adrift in a sea of memes. As you walk down the street, you're seeing ads for concerts, billboards, bumper stickers, guys with sandwich boards handing out coupons, etc etc etc.
There is a war going on, a war for your attention. The trick isn't just to grab attention, but to maintain it. A cute catch phrase momentarily rises into awareness and then will be replaced by the next flashy thing to come along.
That is why I think Discordian posters should be absurd, surreal, mysterious, or otherwise itch your brain in some way. You can get by on being funny. The main thing is that the experience of the poster should be something unique which the target will remember later in the day, will relate to others.
Think about how many times you've seen the phrase "Buckle your seatbelt", or some other public safety notice. This is sort of what we're going for, except we're not concerned with physical health. Does it stick our in your memory? (probably not) When you saw it, did it change your behavior? (it might have, if you were unbuckled, and there was a hefty fine listed) What factors can make your posters more effective than that? A meme's goal is to get inside someone's head and change their behavior from within. In the "buckle your seatbelt" example, they do that by leveraging internal factors against one another. Namely, the fear of harm, and the reminder of financial penalty for failing to internalize the meme.
The Situationists thought that the best way to protest the dominant order is to protest from outside of it (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=20959.0). They tried to be surreal, confusing, misunderstood. They thought this gave them a certain outsider power. The phrase "My shadow is my graffiti" was a popular May 1968 slogan (http://www.bopsecrets.org/CF/graffiti.htm). I like it because it doesn't make a clear point that you can argue with. It seems to express some dissent, but not in a way which can be circumvented through discussion. You have a hard time explaining it to people. It sticks in the brain a little bit just because you can't chew it up and swallow it like the phrase "Shop at Sears" or "Drink Guiness for Health" or whatever.
A powerful meme creates a mental shift in the reader. Sometimes all it takes is a phrase like "Is this a dream?" to make people spiral into a cascade of self reflection and awareness of one's own thoughts. But it's hard, because you have to pierce through the veil first, you have to win the attention economy. The battle for attention is fought nearly every time you move your eyeballs. How are your posters going to win that battle? How are they going to throw a wrench in the MachineTM?
We have a bit of an advantage in that we are not a commercial venture. We are not trying to sell you anything. But we are marketing ideas, hoping to snare your brain into a train of thought which leads you our way. Perhaps you are intrigued. We leave you with little to follow up on, other than "the Discordian Society", a mysterious and nebulous entity if ever there was one.
Or maybe it's just about rearranging the MachineTM. If you make everybody that reads your poster smile a little bit, you'll have introduced a little warmth into a cold cold world. I think a lot of people are surprised when they see a poster which isn't trying to sell them something. We have no commercial interests. We just want to make the world better (for ourselves), and we can do that by making you relax and laugh a little. People aren't used to the idea that you'd waste your calories doing something that isn't tied to a bank account. They don't know that there are forms of protest which don't involve carrying a sign and shouting at (essentially) a brick wall. They don't understand that there are hobbies which you can make up yourself, you don't have to pick your activities from a predefined list of culturally accepted pasttimes. If putting up posters has mindfucked anybody, it's myself. And I wish I could show everybody what I've seen.
Hail Eris
"How am I not myself?"
-Used in I Heart Huckabees with enough repetition to bring the antagonist to the brink of a nervous breakdown.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 10, 2009, 03:35:48 PM
Hail Eris
Indeed.
For example, though, what would you have done differently if you had made some of these flyers? I've come to realize that posterGASM, in and of itself, is an art-form, that requires a certain degree of skill, and it's an art-form that I find very appealing.
Now, I have friends that will look at them and say either "I like it" or "I don't like it," which, in the end isn't all that helpful because they don't really know what I'm shooting for (I don't fully know either) and, while your advice is always helpful, specific examples and suggestions about specific things would, for me, be the most helpful. It's tough, because I normally learn best hands-on, by example, from an actual person, and as I'm sure you could have guessed, I don't really know that many people IRL that are into this kind of thing. I have a small crew that hangs the posters, but they don't make them, or even make suggestions. (Robots. Kinda sad, actually). Anyhow, I'm totally going to keep working on this. It's the best thing since Pizza-Pie.
my advice is to keep stoking and stroking the meme bombs until you have something really potent.
Just clicking on a random poster... the meme is "HOPE ALONE CANNOT BRING ABOUT CHANGE"
which is a strong thought, a call to action of some sort, but does it actually motivate you? If you saw this on the street, would it make you change your behavior in some way? What is the function of the phrase, who is its audience, and how are you hoping they'll respond? Not all posters need a huge philosophical underpinning, but these ones don't strike me as terribly powerful.
But the trick is to just keep making them. Make a hundred of them. I have made a TON of shitty posters. These days I just print out the strong ones and put them in my messenger bag. Doing this over and over again gave me an eye for what works vs what doesn't, but it took practice. So keep at it! You're making great progress - keep challenging yourself.
as for your cabal, don't worry about them too hard. Whether they know it or not, they ARE a Discordian cabal. They may not be coming up with anything, but they're participants, they're actually getting out of their comfort zone and helping you do something cool, and that is fucking awesome. I have found that the hardest thing in the world is to motivate people to do something in 3D Meatspace. You just keep leading by example, keep discussing how this stuff works, and eventually, they will have internalized some of that energy. :wink:
Thanks a bunch, Cram. Good advice is good.
Ask (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741166/Ask)
Destiny (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741170/Destiny)
Distracted (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741172/Distracted)
Yeah, swine-flu has been done, but I put a little spin on it and directed it more towards the profiteering of companies that produce things like Purell hand sanitizer. There are hand sanitizer dispensers everywhere at my school, and this is going to end up right next to each one. If anyone else has hand sanitizer dispensers of another brand at their school/work, let me know and I can change it around to reflect whatever brand you need.
Swine-Flu (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22773930/Swine-Flu)
Quote from: dimo on November 19, 2009, 04:18:36 AM
Ask (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741166/Ask)
Destiny (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741170/Destiny)
Distracted (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741172/Distracted)
to be honest, I think these three lack the punch / depth of your previous work
Quote from: dimo on November 19, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Swine-Flu (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22773930/Swine-Flu)
I lol'd
I like the swine flu one.
I'd like to share that with "bubble boy" at work. I swear he snorts that crap.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 20, 2009, 04:04:54 AM
Quote from: dimo on November 19, 2009, 04:18:36 AM
Ask (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741166/Ask)
Destiny (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741170/Destiny)
Distracted (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22741172/Distracted)
to be honest, I think these three lack the punch / depth of your previous work
Thanks for the feedback. I agree, though I think the "ask questions" one is kinda' catchy and could get some momentum.
I've been putting a sort of dualistic, antipodal spin on how I place posters. For instance, I've been taking my more oppressive "illuminati" style posters (Do the Right Thing, Swine-Flu, etc.) and juxtaposing them with the more positive "Discordian" posters (Ask Questions, Have You Been Lied to Yet Today [ToA]) so if someone happens to read and buy into the negative posters, there's a contradictory poster right next to it to try to swing the reader over to the "good" team. I'm basically being subversive to my own stuff. I dunno if that's really beneficial, I just thought I'd try it out as a sort of experiment.
On a side note: I'm starting to fuck with myself. I get paranoid every time I see anyone wearing a Swiss-gear backpack or anything else that has a Swiss flag on it because of my own friggin' Swiss-Terror poster.
Thought I'd give it a go. These are meant to be more along the lines of "WTF?" than propaganda.
It is now time (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23065492/Now-Time)
This is your answer (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23065674/Answer)
And another, because it's kinda fun to do:
You are your own journey (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23072163/Journey)
I love the logos on these. Especially the gynecological one with the ....crab logo? hahahahah
Good compositions, too - quite eye catching.
:lulz: FP, those are GREAT.
Thanks Cram and Nigel!
Here's a portrait version of You are your own journey (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23315551/Journey-2) which I think works better than landscape.
S'more...
Not What You Think (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141043/Not-What-You-Think)
Agree to Disagree (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141025/Agree)
Rethink (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141033/Rethink)
I'm also going to post this here, as well, so it's not just floating in limbo:
Puppets (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22374695/Puppets-and-Puppeteers)
This is a work in progress and I really want to improve on it. The main problem I'm having is finding an appropriate image. Some one on the original thread had suggested a screen cap from Being John Malkovitch of puppets being puppeteers, which I think fits the theme, but I'm having a hard time finding a cap of it. I already know of a few things I want to change as far as wording and layout, but I want to make sure that I can get a good pic before I put too much time into it. Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.
Quote from: dimo on December 15, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
S'more...
Not What You Think (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141043/Not-What-You-Think)
Agree to Disagree (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141025/Agree)
Rethink (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24141033/Rethink)
I like these! The first one is my favorite, as it seems the most thought provoking.
QuotePuppets (http://www.scribd.com/doc/22374695/Puppets-and-Puppeteers)
This is a work in progress and I really want to improve on it. The main problem I'm having is finding an appropriate image. Some one on the original thread had suggested a screen cap from Being John Malkovitch of puppets being puppeteers, which I think fits the theme, but I'm having a hard time finding a cap of it. I already know of a few things I want to change as far as wording and layout, but I want to make sure that I can get a good pic before I put too much time into it. Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.
I'm liking the energy. My advice would be to continue boiling it down until it's as dense as possible. Posters exist in an attention economy, so you need to make your point as quickly and tightly as possible.
The message seems (to me) to be "Take control of your life." But it could also be read as "Manipulating other people is necessary, so don't sweat it." --Which I like a bit less.
Wow Dimo, these rock!
"Not what you think" is my favourite, and "Agree to disagree" is my least favourite.. it didn't really force me to think about anything new. "Rethink" is simple and neat, and I really like where you're going with "Puppets". Though I'd probably be tempted to remove the black rectangle and mercilessly edit the text down by about 20% - I like the content but it comes over in too many words I think. The picture works well - gives it a creepy edge.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 15, 2009, 08:55:08 PM
I like these! The first one is my favorite, as it seems the most thought provoking.
Thanks. That's the one that just "came to me out of nowhere," which seems to produce the best ones.
Quote from: Cramulus on December 15, 2009, 08:55:08 PM
I'm liking the energy. My advice would be to continue boiling it down until it's as dense as possible. Posters exist in an attention economy, so you need to make your point as quickly and tightly as possible.
The message seems (to me) to be "Take control of your life." But it could also be read as "Manipulating other people is necessary, so don't sweat it." --Which I like a bit less.
I think it's about being aware of actions, other people's and your own, and how they affect the world around you. Kinda' butterfly effect, chaos theory-ish. I'm gonna' fix the text but like I said, I need PICTURES and I'm LOSING MY MIND trying to FIND THEM!!!
Quote from: FP on December 15, 2009, 08:58:28 PM
Wow Dimo, these rock!
"Not what you think" is my favourite, and "Agree to disagree" is my least favourite.. it didn't really force me to think about anything new. "Rethink" is simple and neat, and I really like where you're going with "Puppets". Though I'd probably be tempted to remove the black rectangle and mercilessly edit the text down by about 20% - I like the content but it comes over in too many words I think. The picture works well - gives it a creepy edge.
Thanks Fiction. Yeah, the rectangles gettin' a bit old but for some reason I feel it needs a border... I dunno...
Quote from: dimo on December 15, 2009, 09:05:33 PM
Thanks Fiction. Yeah, the rectangles gettin' a bit old but for some reason I feel it needs a border... I dunno...
You could frame it other ways too, e.g.
(http://thedeviousplot.com/random/dimoex1.jpg)
I can take that down if you like - it's just for illustrative purposes.
I'm starting to think maybe put the picture on top, then headline, then text... I'll fuck with it later. Really think it needs a better picture, though...
Quote from: FP on November 24, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
And another, because it's kinda fun to do:
You are your own journey (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23072163/Journey)
Maybe too late to comment on but I really dig this.
Only thing I could suggest it it might look better with some upped contrast to a point of being dichromatic but I've always been partial to that look so feel free to disregard. Also, it could be a trick of the eye but the word "Journey" looks a lot bigger than the rest of the font in terms of font size. Personally, I think it would look better with an equal sized font.
But I really like the text, the picture and everything else. Pretty nice job.
Also as a general point, I've kind of grown a dislike for logos. The only ones I would use would be the DHS logo or others like it. In that case they're necessary to the message of the poster. In most cases stuff like the chao and the gynecological crab, they don't add anything to the poster or at the worst detract from it.
Cheers, that ended up being my favourite out of the bunch, too. I'm not really visualising your suggestions about the contrast, but feel free to remix/reuse any of the text/ideas in any way you want. You're right about the font size, I got lazy rather than trying to fiddle around with positioning :wink:
I get your point about logos. The idea for the posters was only to generate a "WTF?" response, but for conveying an actual message, I agree, they'd totally get in the way as they just create more questions than message-positive associative links.
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/come.png)
I felt like making something silly, inspired by the evangelism thread - Come (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24164564/Come-US-Letter), and I accidentally did it in A4 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24164508/Come-A4) as well.
I'd just like to point out that the asterisk also conveniently locates the Pope's butthole.
awesome, FP!
The letter t in "to" is kind of hard to read - I would nudge it so that the color shift doesn't break the word
and the text at the bottom - does it show up well in print?
alright I printed it out and answered my own question
the answer is:
-yes you can read the tiny text
-the rest of the text didn't show up for some reason
-only 3 of the pope cards showed up printed, and they're cut off. This might just be because this isn't an 8x11 image?
weeeird
anyhow, I dig the poster! Cool logo, too!
I'm liking it. Nice layout. And the logo is nicely designed, important to the poster, and doesn't take up the entire page. Really like it
FP, a tip if you're having problems with the contrast in an image and legibility of the text, try this trick. you use the dark colour (in this case black) you'd like to use for the bright areas of the image as a shadow, offsetted 1 or 2 points to the bottom-right (usually), and the bright colour (white in your case) on top of that:
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2408/popevariation.jpg)
Quote from: FP on December 16, 2009, 08:03:19 AM
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/come.png)
I felt like making something silly, inspired by the evangelism thread - Come (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24164564/Come-US-Letter), and I accidentally did it in A4 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24164508/Come-A4) as well.
I dig it. I may hang a few of those today.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 03:04:38 PM
FP, a tip if you're having problems with the contrast in an image and legibility of the text, try this trick. you use the dark colour (in this case black) you'd like to use for the bright areas of the image as a shadow, offsetted 1 or 2 points to the bottom-right (usually), and the bright colour (white in your case) on top of that:
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2408/popevariation.jpg)
I also like this quite a bit. Neat-o!
Thanks guys!
Quote from: Cramulus on December 16, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
alright I printed it out and answered my own question
the answer is:
-yes you can read the tiny text
-the rest of the text didn't show up for some reason
-only 3 of the pope cards showed up printed, and they're cut off. This might just be because this isn't an 8x11 image?
weeeird
anyhow, I dig the poster! Cool logo, too!
Glad to know the tiny text came out. I've fixed the main text to match 000's suggestion - thanks! Do you mind if I borrow that text and upload it as a variant pdf?
I'll upload new versions once I figure a solution to the margin issue.
The US letter version should be the regular 8.5x11 inches, and there is no margin - it's supposed to bleed a little, but I don't know enough about printers to know whether most can actually support that mode of printing.. because the alternative of just scaling it to fit a page and manually guillotining it sounds like more effort than its worth.
I had this idea of doing completely different PD logos for each poster, but if anyone wants to reuse that one, let me know and I'll put it up somewhere - the .svg is only ~12kb.
Post it. You can never have too many logos.
> Do you mind if I borrow that text and upload it as a variant pdf?
was that to me? of course I made the example for you anyway, it's yours, as far as I care :)
Posting ITT to say that that logo is sweet. The rest of the poster, too.
Hey,Fiction. Just wanted to let you know that the cabal really enjoyed your poster. I threw a handful of them up yesterday. :thumb:
Sweeet! Thanks dude!
If anyone else wants to post these somewhere, I will record and report any messages I get: http://www.scribd.com/doc/24244617/Lost-Moustache
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 17, 2009, 10:18:57 PM
If anyone else wants to post these somewhere, I will record and report any messages I get: http://www.scribd.com/doc/24244617/Lost-Moustache
I think I could get some mileage out of that. Semester's just about over, though, so it won't be for a couple of months. I can't wait to hear the messages. :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on January 26, 2007, 01:53:23 PM
Here's a PDF that was created for the Machine‚Ñ¢.
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/68444/mach-001-pdf.html
Please to update with working link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4950524/The-Machine
I was bored, so I made this (hastily,mind you) to hang on windows on the top floors of taller buildings.
Emergency Flood Exit (http://www.scribd.com/doc/26978346/Flood-Exit-Only)
My sense of humor is a little fucked, is this even as funny as I think it is?
:lulz: that is funny
protip: add the instructions ("hang on windows on the top floors of taller buildings.") into the file's description on scribd, so when people from the net find it they'll know what to do with it.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 17, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
:lulz: that is funny
protip: add the instructions ("hang on windows on the top floors of taller buildings.") into the file's description on scribd, so when people from the net find it they'll know what to do with it.
Cool beans. Will do.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 17, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
:lulz: that is funny
protip: add the instructions ("hang on windows on the top floors of taller buildings.") i
I was reading these as instructions on what to do in case of flood, at first :lol:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 26, 2007, 01:53:23 PM
Here's a PDF that was created for the Machine,Ñ¢.
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/68444/mach-001-pdf.html
BAMP
LMNO, do you still have this pdf? That site is hella dead.
Done.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8HUZ1DTb5O_NE5KbEV2TW1OUkE/view?usp=sharing
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 05, 2015, 02:37:59 PM
Done.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8HUZ1DTb5O_NE5KbEV2TW1OUkE/view?usp=sharing
I like this one!
I found an old zip file from "back in the day" hiding on my work computer. Let me know if you see anything else you want me to find and upload to GDrive.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 05, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
I found an old zip file from "back in the day" hiding on my work computer. Let me know if you see anything else you want me to find and upload to GDrive.
Honestly I have no idea what would be good in there, I was just responding to the stuff in the report thread. I'd be happy to act as a second keeper of the shit that keeps getting deleted, though.