This was originally written for TCC, but due to the strike, I'll post it here. Yes, it deals with the POEE and the Original PD. You don't like it, don't read it.
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As some of you may know, one of the things the POEE (Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric) came up with was the True and Holy Fact that every man, woman and child is a pope ("so please treat them right").
Some people wonder what's up with that. Well, I'll tell you what that means to me.*
1. It pisses off the Catholics (not that hard, but fun anyway).
2. It causes mild confusion in cabbages that can't get their head around the idea of multiple, non-Catholic popes.
3. It is a fairly precise and concise slice of what it means to be Discordian.
Perhaps I should expand/expound on that third one. To wit: The Christian Catholic Path teaches that Jesus gave unto Peter the earthly access of heaven's kingdom (Matt.16:18-19: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.").
Stemming from this tradition, the Pope has become the singular conduit of God's will on earth, having final say on moral, ethical, and spiritual matters. Their will in such matters is not to be denied.
Well, Discordians aren't down with that. They are typically skeptical of any dogmatic authority (or, for that matter, any authority assumed rather than requested). To a Discordian, the self is the final arbiter of moral, ethical, and spiritual behavior. It would simply not do to have some old guy in a funny hat ordering me not to have fun, "just because". I, Myself, am the key to Heaven, and the Gate; I am the Jailor; I am the Prisoner; and I am Free.
But you see, this applies to everyone. My papal edicts do not affect you, if you so choose, because you are the Pope, as well. Of course, you all know what happens when two popes disagree: SCHISM! And in that chasm awaits the One True Goddess, Eris.
And there's nothing better than looking into the Eris' Crack.
*It should be pointed out that, of course, I speak for myself, the One True Pope of the First Church of Last Exit Before Toll. Other popes can damn well speak for themselves, if they so choose.
:mittens:
Perfectly stated.
Well said!
Concise and to the point. I like.
Have you considered throwing it up on the blog?
i like.
and as Pope i APPROVE.
Consider it Blagged.
Wait a sec. How to I post/login?
There should be a login link under the Meta, on the right hand sidebar.
Ta.
Blagged.
Very nicely stated.
Bravo. Me likey--is it kopyleft? I need something like this for explaining this shit, as I've begun to do here and there.
Good post. I am however not a pope. I am the true heïr of emperor Norton.
But his son killed him before Norton had a chance to announce it.
Quote from: Agrippa on March 17, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
Good post. I am however not a pope. I am the true heïr of emperor Norton.
But his son killed him before Norton had a chance to announce it.
Receding heir-line, ITT
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2008, 06:44:24 PM
Bravo. Me likey--is it kopyleft? I need something like this for explaining this shit, as I've begun to do here and there.
Yup, kopyleft. Credit would be nice, though.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 17, 2008, 06:59:54 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on March 17, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
Good post. I am however not a pope. I am the true heïr of emperor Norton.
But his son killed him before Norton had a chance to announce it.
Receding heir-line, ITT
Wow.
:thanks:
I like it, you kept it short enough I think people will actually read it!
Ver nice!
Quote from: LMNO on March 17, 2008, 07:09:44 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 17, 2008, 06:44:24 PM
Bravo. Me likey--is it kopyleft? I need something like this for explaining this shit, as I've begun to do here and there.
Yup, kopyleft. Credit would be nice, though.
Will do, righteeo.
Quote from: LMNO on March 17, 2008, 12:33:20 PM
This was originally written for TCC, but due to the strike, I'll post it here. Yes, it deals with the POEE and the Original PD. You don't like it, don't read it.
______________________________
As some of you may know, one of the things the POEE (Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric) came up with was the True and Holy Fact that every man, woman and child is a pope ("so please treat them right").
Some people wonder what's up with that. Well, I'll tell you what that means to me.*
1. It pisses off the Catholics (not that hard, but fun anyway).
2. It causes mild confusion in cabbages that can't get their head around the idea of multiple, non-Catholic popes.
3. It is a fairly precise and concise slice of what it means to be Discordian.
Perhaps I should expand/expound on that third one. To wit: The Christian Catholic Path teaches that Jesus gave unto Peter the earthly access of heaven's kingdom (Matt.16:18-19: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.").
Stemming from this tradition, the Pope has become the singular conduit of God's will on earth, having final say on moral, ethical, and spiritual matters. Their will in such matters is not to be denied.
Well, Discordians aren't down with that. They are typically skeptical of any dogmatic authority (or, for that matter, any authority assumed rather than requested). To a Discordian, the self is the final arbiter of moral, ethical, and spiritual behavior. It would simply not do to have some old guy in a funny hat ordering me not to have fun, "just because". I, Myself, am the key to Heaven, and the Gate; I am the Jailor; I am the Prisoner; and I am Free.
But you see, this applies to everyone. My papal edicts do not affect you, if you so choose, because you are the Pope, as well. Of course, you all know what happens when two popes disagree: SCHISM! And in that chasm awaits the One True Goddess, Eris.
And there's nothing better than looking into the Eris' Crack.
*It should be pointed out that, of course, I speak for myself, the One True Pope of the First Church of Last Exit Before Toll. Other popes can damn well speak for themselves, if they so choose.
I'd like to use this in the Lollercaust edition I'm working on.. would you mind?
:mittens:
Much better than anything I could have written. I would have gone off on a rant about individualism and antidisestablimentarianism.
Quote from: IasonOuabache on March 18, 2008, 04:50:23 AM
antidisestablimentarianism.
For the record, I hate that word more than I hate any other word. I hate it more than I hate Miracle Whip.
Quote from: Nigel on March 18, 2008, 05:03:15 AM
Quote from: IasonOuabache on March 18, 2008, 04:50:23 AM
antidisestablimentarianism.
For the record, I hate that word more than I hate any other word. I hate it more than I hate Miracle Whip.
Mehaps I should have said floccinaucinihilipilification or defenestration.
to join the chorus: well written. it captures the very essence of discorianism. or to rephrase "Mini-PD"
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 18, 2008, 03:54:35 AM
I'd like to use this in the Lollercaust edition I'm working on.. would you mind?
Feel Free.
And thanks, everyone. I appreciate it. It seems that raiding other boards really
does have some good uses. I think this is the first essay I've written in a few months.
LMNO, permission to repost on the blog of the discordian group on a dutch social network site? (i'll provide credit to LMNO and a link to the blog article, of course).
i'm trying to slowly pry these guys (mostly guys) out of their state of Lo5 23-pinealism. oh yes, they certainly got the lightning math to reduce everything to the number five down perfectly. crucial discordian survival skill, that :roll: :lol:
(OT, i also put some info about eggGASM there)
edit: horrible spelling mistake
Go right ahead. Everything of mine on this site, except for my mp3s, are Kopyleft.
This essay turns my crank. :deadhorse: BTW, this here is my first post, but I've been Pope for a while, freelance. Oh yeah, I guess everybody is freelance. What would you all like to know?
Quote from: Pope Joan on May 04, 2008, 09:43:46 PM
This essay turns my crank. :deadhorse: BTW, this here is my first post, but I've been Pope for a while, freelance. Oh yeah, I guess everybody is freelance. What would you all like to know?
How soon can you leave?
Quote from: Pope Joan on May 04, 2008, 09:43:46 PM
This essay turns my crank. :deadhorse: BTW, this here is my first post, but I've been Pope for a while, freelance. Oh yeah, I guess everybody is freelance. What would you all like to know?
About what?
Quote from: Pope Joan on May 04, 2008, 09:43:46 PMBTW, this here is my first post, but I've been Pope for a while, freelance. Oh yeah, I guess everybody is freelance. What would you all like to know?
welcome! please report to:
1 the introductions thread in Apple Talk and make a small introduction, with as many personal details as you care to share with us (if this turns out to be a lot, please try to select the ones that might be interesting)
2 the volunteer thread in Think For Yourself Schmuck and write down what you're good at (see the thread itself for examples)
3 the Operation:Mindfuck and TFYS subforums and join in on the fun
4 when you got some time to kill, go read horrible troofs in "Or Kill Me", and/or write your own
5 don't forget, have fun
- triple zero,
hyperefficient welcome wagon
Quote from: triple zero on May 04, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
Quote from: Pope Joan on May 04, 2008, 09:43:46 PMBTW, this here is my first post, but I've been Pope for a while, freelance. Oh yeah, I guess everybody is freelance. What would you all like to know?
welcome! please report to:
1 the introductions thread in Apple Talk and make a small introduction, with as many personal details as you care to share with us (if this turns out to be a lot, please try to select the ones that might be interesting)
2 the volunteer thread in Think For Yourself Schmuck and write down what you're good at (see the thread itself for examples)
3 the Operation:Mindfuck and TFYS subforums and join in on the fun
4 when you got some time to kill, go read horrible troofs in "Or Kill Me", and/or write your own
5 don't forget, have fun
- triple zero,
hyperefficient welcome wagon
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