A Realistic Way for People to Live Together

[Laz]

Think i'm coming round to the idea of this being a possibility. If everyone had the right to judge and sentence their neighbour and not devolve responsibility to some higher power (who often takes too long, and gets it wrong), there could be a workable peace without rules. Although power groups/unions would have to be controlled somehow.

[LMNO]

2 things:

1.  The premise of these guidelines seems to be that people are basically misanthropic.  Which is only partially true.  Most people would consider humans to be social animals, and would naturally object to 3rd party communications vs face-to-face, and would tend to want to associate with their community, not leave them alone.  Granted, most of the people on this board aren't like that; I know I'm not.

2.  Regarding the comment that there should be a period of time where the suggestions are disregarded:  Bacchanal.  Just saying.

[LHX]

2 things:

1.  The premise of these guidelines seems to be that people are basically misanthropic.  Which is only partially true.  Most people would consider humans to be social animals, and would naturally object to 3rd party communications vs face-to-face, and would tend to want to associate with their community, not leave them alone.  Granted, most of the people on this board aren't like that; I know I'm not.

would you say that there is a tendency for people to become misanthropic over time?

a tendency for people to develop misanthropic tendencies as they have more experiences? rather than the alternative of people becoming more social?

[LMNO]

Nope.  I'm guessing that over time, the misanthropics and the socials tend to drift towards each other, thus confirming their worldveiws.

This board as exibit A.

[LHX]

Nope.  I'm guessing that over time, the misanthropics and the socials tend to drift towards each other, thus confirming their worldveiws.

This board as exibit A.

but neither one drifts toward one or the other?

i dunno

maybe youre right

a lot of old people are cranky and want to be left alone
but a lot of them go play bingo too


makes a lot of sense

i guess ultimately it does come down to that question of respect


in the right circumstances, respectful tendencies would develop by trial and error

but the circumstances we live in now wouldnt ever see that develop - or so it seems

[Laz]

I'm having trouble reconciling these views with my experience of human nature.

Those cranky types will quite happily go out and play bingo with their friends once a week!

People are far from black and white and subject to mood swings of varying intensity and duration.

[LHX]

I'm having trouble reconciling these views with my experience of human nature.

Those cranky types will quite happily go out and play bingo with their friends once a week!

People are far from black and white and subject to mood swings of varying intensity and duration.

is this society a example of 'human nature'?

i know a few thousand years seems like a long time, but isnt it still possible that this is the exception rather than the rule?


are people cranky? or has this way of life become something that makes people cranky?

[Laz]

are people cranky? or has this way of life become something that makes people cranky?

I see where you're going, however this is a non argument, because there has never been an external influence on people/society/life.

So People make people cranky, they always have and always will, starting again will not resolve anything.

is this society a example of 'human nature'?

of course ;0)

[LHX]

I see where you're going, however this is a non argument, because there has never been an external influence on people/society/life.

its okay to say words like 'maybe'

ie:
'there doesnt seem to have been any external influence on people/society/life that we can define and agree upon'


the question at that point becomes:
how do you develop a society with a tendency to say one thing but do the other?

which theory of development results in something so contradictory?

So People make people cranky, they always have and always will, starting again will not resolve anything.

i dunno if that math checks out

you might be missing a few variables in your equations

is this society a example of 'human nature'?

of course ;0)

are you sure?

[Laz]

Where are you off to now LHX?

You seem to be contradicting yourself there. proof indeed that people are not able to stick to a straight line!

you might be missing a few variables in your equations

Equations, maths? models of nature only.

Help illuminate me anerisian one?

[LHX]

You seem to be contradicting yourself there.

that better not be a surprise yo

the crookedest straight line ever seen

you might be missing a few variables in your equations

Equations, maths? models of nature only.

Help illuminate me anerisian one?

you illuminate yourself and then tell us about it - all i have is pieces that you might find useful

A Brief History in Pictures


And here is your ridiculously absurd possibility of the day:
why Yacub did what he did



if they dont mean jack to you - so be it - its all fairy tales
but there is enough reason to believe that this way of life didnt develop on some 'gee shucks' type of progression

i dont know what caused it
but we didnt wake up one day suddenly afraid of things that dont exist

enjoy

[P3nT4gR4m]

Love the thread title btw. Next: A realistic way to travel backwards in time, using fridge magnets.

[LHX]

Love the thread title btw. Next: A realistic way to travel backwards in time, using fridge magnets.

you need special rocks

and a wire

srsly

it will activate the time-travel chakra

[Laz]

Okay i'll follow your lead LHX :0)

meantime i'd just like to recap...

The thread started with a proposal for a new form of society, based here on this planet, with the people we have now and their long and perverse history. The proposal that was being fought for (and still is?) is that a few guidelines or rules at a push could be used to control this lot and make society run like clockwork.

Right?

[LMNO]

I wouldn't say clockwork, as it implies order, while these suggestions imply personal independence with a minimum of infringement upon others.