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Started by Jasper, January 13, 2007, 04:54:48 AM

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LHX

its sort of like not being able to proceed until you face that thing you never wanted to face - or never imagined you would have to face

that would be the definition of mastery, would it not?

mission accomplished

a job well done


keeping the planets in their orbit AND at the same time providing nourishing light




intense
neat hell

P3nT4gR4m

Laughter for me commenced the day I realised how seriously I'd been taking the whole thing. When I saw myself getting all hot and bothered about all these scenarios that were happening to me. The cosmic joke is a windup, like candid camera but nobody steps out from behind a bush with a mic and breaks the illusion - that's left for you to take care of.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Jenne

Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

LHX

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 17, 2007, 02:19:07 PM
Laughter for me commenced the day I realised how seriously I'd been taking the whole thing. When I saw myself getting all hot and bothered about all these scenarios that were happening to me. The cosmic joke is a windup, like candid camera but nobody steps out from behind a bush with a mic and breaks the illusion - that's left for you to take care of.
troof

a lot of times that is a tough one to come to terms with

its common to raise children with the notion that 'there will always be somebody there to help and protect' and all other things good


its easy for people spend too much time giggling and not enough time laughing
neat hell

AFK

Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

probably not, except for maybe OC-types.  Even then, they are things that they are ignoring while focusing on their compulsions.

While I think we all recognize the fear, the thing we don't want to happen, at some point you just have to shrug your shoulders and say, eh fuck it.  The more you try to control, to bear down and steer, the more paralyzed you'll become like you said. 

That doesn't sound very funny to me. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

It's more a matter of what you project/pay attention to that makes the difference. I might be aware that some banks I ripped off 5 or 6 years ago have tracked me down and want a couple of grand off me, meanwhile I'm blissfully unaware that, post 30, my brain is dying one cell at a time. All you get from reality is subjective. How you see it is as near as you're going to come to the truth. It's either mostly black or mostly white but it's all down to your perception.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Jenne

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 17, 2007, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

probably not, except for maybe OC-types. Even then, they are things that they are ignoring while focusing on their compulsions.

While I think we all recognize the fear, the thing we don't want to happen, at some point you just have to shrug your shoulders and say, eh fuck it. The more you try to control, to bear down and steer, the more paralyzed you'll become like you said.

That doesn't sound very funny to me.

It's a good reason for the predominant use of anethsitizing agents (drugs/alcohol/other addictions), as well.  Why deal with the troof when you can put it off til tomorrow?  And by then, your hangover will preclude you doing anything but sleeping it off...

Jenne

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 17, 2007, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

It's more a matter of what you project/pay attention to that makes the difference. I might be aware that some banks I ripped off 5 or 6 years ago have tracked me down and want a couple of grand off me, meanwhile I'm blissfully unaware that, post 30, my brain is dying one cell at a time. All you get from reality is subjective. How you see it is as near as you're going to come to the truth. It's either mostly black or mostly white but it's all down to your perception.

But I think it's this last bit, "your perception," that is at the crux of most of the BIP here.  Otherwise, none of it really matters.  If you don't perceive it, it doesn't exist, or at least you don't feel its effects.

Until it's too late.

LMNO

Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 17, 2007, 02:29:15 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

probably not, except for maybe OC-types. Even then, they are things that they are ignoring while focusing on their compulsions.

While I think we all recognize the fear, the thing we don't want to happen, at some point you just have to shrug your shoulders and say, eh fuck it. The more you try to control, to bear down and steer, the more paralyzed you'll become like you said.

That doesn't sound very funny to me.

It's a good reason for the predominant use of anethsitizing agents (drugs/alcohol/other addictions), as well.  Why deal with the troof when you can put it off til tomorrow?  And by then, your hangover will preclude you doing anything but sleeping it off...


TGRR's "fals slack" sermon is poignant here.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 17, 2007, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 02:22:21 PM
Does anyone ever really grasp all that is happening to them?  I mean...if you are that much inside your head, can you function?

I think we have a survival mechanism that turns that off.  Otherwise, you'll just stand in front of a snow-filled tv set drooling all day.

It's more a matter of what you project/pay attention to that makes the difference. I might be aware that some banks I ripped off 5 or 6 years ago have tracked me down and want a couple of grand off me, meanwhile I'm blissfully unaware that, post 30, my brain is dying one cell at a time. All you get from reality is subjective. How you see it is as near as you're going to come to the truth. It's either mostly black or mostly white but it's all down to your perception.

But I think it's this last bit, "your perception," that is at the crux of most of the BIP here.  Otherwise, none of it really matters.  If you don't perceive it, it doesn't exist, or at least you don't feel its effects.

Until it's too late.

You just made me think - You are the BIP, until you become self aware


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Jenne

But really...is that all it takes?  Just self-awareness?  What about laissez-faire approaches to life?  the "damn-it-all" of taking responsibility?

I think there might be more to the equation than that...but that's certainly one of the what LMNO calls "first key picks to the locks" or something to that effect.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Jenne on January 17, 2007, 03:18:27 PM
But really...is that all it takes?  Just self-awareness?  What about laissez-faire approaches to life?  the "damn-it-all" of taking responsibility?

I think there might be more to the equation than that...but that's certainly one of the what LMNO calls "first key picks to the locks" or something to that effect.

All optional. Every decision you make, ever, will have little or no lasting effect in the grand sheme of things. Subjectively OTOH, it's night and day.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Self-awareness is usually srongly linked to self-delusion.  to free one from the other is incredibly difficult.

Jenne

Yeah, I had a feeling someone would say that, LMNO.  :lol:

AFK

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 17, 2007, 03:27:18 PM

All optional. Every decision you make, ever, will have little or no lasting effect in the grand sheme of things. Subjectively OTOH, it's night and day.

"little or no lasting effect" on what?
Because I would submit that at the very least, the decisions you make can have an impact on what cell you are living in, even if it means deciding to stay in the one you are in. 

Awareness of your environment, I believe, has an impact on your self to a certain degree, or at least how you operate.  Being aware of the environment, I also believe, is a choice, a decision.  Ergo, I submit that decisions can have impacts.  Sure, you're not going to change the world, but anyone who thinks they could should be more self-aware of their delusions. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.