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This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myRDU7UdLrs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

i made it about 3 steps into hell, then i realized i forgot my keys...

...

And thrice threefold the Gates; three folds were Brass, [ 645 ]
Three Iron, three of Adamantine Rock,
Impenetrable, impal'd with circling fire,
Yet unconsum'd. Before the Gates there sat
On either side a formidable shape;
The one seem'd Woman to the waste, and fair, [ 650 ]
But ended foul in many a scaly fould
Voluminous and vast, a Serpent arm'd
With mortal sting: about her middle round
A cry of Hell Hounds never ceasing bark'd
With wide Cerberian mouths full loud, and rung [ 655 ]
A hideous Peal: yet, when they list, would creep,
If aught disturb'd thir noyse, into her woomb,
And kennel there, yet there still bark'd and howl'd
Within unseen. Farr less abhorrd than these
Vex'd Scylla bathing in the Sea that parts [ 660 ]
Calabria from the hoarse Trinacrian shore:

...

At length a universal hubbub wilde
Of stunning sounds and voices all confus'd
Borne through the hollow dark assaults his eare
With loudest vehemence: thither he plyes,
Undaunted to meet there what ever power [ 955 ]
Or Spirit of the nethermost Abyss
Might in that noise reside, of whom to ask
Which way the neerest coast of darkness lyes
Bordering on light; when strait behold the Throne
Of Chaos, and his dark Pavilion spread [ 960 ]
Wide on the wasteful Deep; with him Enthron'd
Sat Sable-vested Night, eldest of things,
The Consort of his Reign; and by them stood
Orcus and Ades, and the dreaded name
Of Demogorgon; Rumor next and Chance, [ 965 ]
And Tumult and Confusion all imbroild,
And Discord with a thousand various mouths...

thanks for the 'lyrics'?
i founds the sounds disturbing.
strange frequencies.
cant wait for the deadmaus' remix... 'beak of the octopus perhaps?

I think you might enjoy Soliloquy for Lilith instead, on Middle Pillar, I think.

Lara wasn't just the indebted she was the payment, a life to be pulled apart by force and then becoming another Necronomicoin, so unlike my own made willingly, so much lovelier in origin and wretched in creation and valuable in tender.

Fantastic line.

I made my legion mangle it in the audio realm and they me this
http://panchronos.com/mp3/NecronomiTango.mp3

Posting here cause the sticky on the notify is suspect, and I'm gonna make darn sure to find this thread again.  Intoxicatingly oracular.

I would also say perspective and opinion are two entirely different things to me, but there is a lot of overlap i guess.
One is inherently aware of their opinion but not of their perspective?
Once perspective develops awareness it becomes opinion?

Opinions are vain speculation serving as surrogates to thought: most people don't even develop their own, so awareness plays no part.  The perspective would be in discerning the ground of understanding upon which differing opinions share a more primordial unity.  For all the change and futile exchange of opinions, we have forgotten that once disclosed clearing of similarity.  Over and against these dancing shadows it remains again the UNKNOWN KNOWN.  Always there withdrawing before those things you mistake for thoughts.

This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myRDU7UdLrs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

i made it about 3 steps into hell, then i realized i forgot my keys...

...

And thrice threefold the Gates; three folds were Brass, [ 645 ]
Three Iron, three of Adamantine Rock,
Impenetrable, impal'd with circling fire,
Yet unconsum'd. Before the Gates there sat
On either side a formidable shape;
The one seem'd Woman to the waste, and fair, [ 650 ]
But ended foul in many a scaly fould
Voluminous and vast, a Serpent arm'd
With mortal sting: about her middle round
A cry of Hell Hounds never ceasing bark'd
With wide Cerberian mouths full loud, and rung [ 655 ]
A hideous Peal: yet, when they list, would creep,
If aught disturb'd thir noyse, into her woomb,
And kennel there, yet there still bark'd and howl'd
Within unseen. Farr less abhorrd than these
Vex'd Scylla bathing in the Sea that parts [ 660 ]
Calabria from the hoarse Trinacrian shore:

...

At length a universal hubbub wilde
Of stunning sounds and voices all confus'd
Borne through the hollow dark assaults his eare
With loudest vehemence: thither he plyes,
Undaunted to meet there what ever power [ 955 ]
Or Spirit of the nethermost Abyss
Might in that noise reside, of whom to ask
Which way the neerest coast of darkness lyes
Bordering on light; when strait behold the Throne
Of Chaos, and his dark Pavilion spread [ 960 ]
Wide on the wasteful Deep; with him Enthron'd
Sat Sable-vested Night, eldest of things,
The Consort of his Reign; and by them stood
Orcus and Ades, and the dreaded name
Of Demogorgon; Rumor next and Chance, [ 965 ]
And Tumult and Confusion all imbroild,
And Discord with a thousand various mouths...

Watch your self, putrid little thing,

We might have to work around some visibility and presentation issues, but have you read yatto's work?

no. what's that about?

we strike the trunk and let it fall.

come closer, it's awfully sunny and that axe looks super heavy!!!!
it's all shady and cool here!

We don't chop wood.  We raze planets. 

[I don't know why it took me so long - Little Brittle Fellow!

Frylock: Give him a hug, Meatwad.

Meatwad: But he smells like lotion and doodoo!

Little Brittle: Come here! Ah! Hey, you–you shot up like a weed. You're, like, man-sized now. Shake my hand like a man. I'm hugging a man, y'all! What brings y'all down to the assisted-living hizzy?

Self discipline is the only form of discipline I personally am able to comply with. Any external order will be processed as a suggestion. My complicity will be depend upon my immediate strategy and goals. Maybe I obey. Maybe I fool the authority into thinking I've obeyed. Maybe I raise a middle finger or a fist. Depends on the situation but what I'm not conditioned to do is just obey because it's an order. I somehow managed to dodge that particular indoctrination. I'm often appalled by the behaviour of the ones who didn't but not always - it's a backdoor mind hack after all - sometimes it can be exploited for profit and/or lulz

I think ultimately self discipline is what's needed.
How many people out there would start killing, raping, pillaging, littering, if it were no longer 'against the law'?
How many of their respective faiths would do the same if they knew for certain their 'god', 'heaven', and/or 'hell' didn't exist?
...

From the rhetoric I take it you value discipline over education...  Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

Thanks for that Faul. Isn't 'Let it Be' also what phil spector whispered after he murdered lana clarkson?

We certainly have some wise ones here and I quickly appreciate you.
But realize, it's also what you take from it that indicates to you, your own character.

I was just agreeing with my rhetoric there man, trying to make friends by ass kissing!!! I can't pass someone a doobie in the grace of cyberspace.
It's just my silly perspective, like yours.

       I need some self discipline, FOR NOW. and the kind i need really is different than the kind most need it seems.  To summarize, a lot of things are difficult for me that are easy for others and vicey versey. Im  fine with it.  For others i think it causes cognitive dissonance. But fuck them.  In a lot of ways life is very natural to me when i fill myself like water in its vessel.

That's one way that discordia has helped me.  It helped me eradicate the order in my life that was doing far more harm than good and keeping me from growing as a lizard pig chimp thingy.

i didn't even know i made that last post,  i was getting to something...

Right.  My character is persistently questioned.  And that's where the perspective matters.  If you think this is all a matter of opinion, then yes, that is silly.  By extension, what distinguishes your self-discipline from the orders to which you were previously subject, is probably just semantics.

I mean this not to be crude but to draw attention to the source from which many learn self-discipline.  In my limited experience, the most rigorous programs have, explicitly or not, borrowed heavily from martial traditions.  Now you see where I am going with this, and yes, forms such as Aikido or Tai-Chi can serve a s notable exceptions.  Still, having any of that discipline without self-knowledge will result in your being used as a pawn.  That is why I emphasize the education, which when correctly applied, naturally gives rise to discipline.  I think otherwise we run the risk of mistakenly showing-up at the next right-wing rally, that's all.

Look at me - My greatest disappointment is not having a cut a record with this guy

Surely prison pipleline related :
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/20/fbi_rules_prohibit_hiring_marijuana_users_but_many_desirable_cybercrime.html

This week at the White Collar Crime Institute, an annual New York City Bar Association conference, Comey said that cybersecurity is an important priority for the FBI, but that the agency may need to re-evaluate its hiring stance when it comes to marijuana use. Currently anyone who has used pot in the three years before applying to an FBI job is automatically disqualified from consideration.

"I have to hire a great work force to compete with those cyber criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview," Comey said, according to the Wall Street Journal. A conference attendee brought up a friend who hadn't applied for an FBI job because of pot use. Comey replied, "He should go ahead and apply."

It would certainly be handy for various people to have a list of known (or highly likely as proven by SHUT UP) smokers who could be raided on demand to make up crime figures. You'd have to seven shade of insane to actually trust that this won't end up in arrests and deal making all over the show. "No prison for you.... if you work for us."

It'd be one of those weird, trick questions.  On the application there would be something to the order of "... have you in the last four years...". Trying to be a "agent" and such, they'd chexk your answer against references, and that's the only liability for that question, detective 

Self discipline is the only form of discipline I personally am able to comply with. Any external order will be processed as a suggestion. My complicity will be depend upon my immediate strategy and goals. Maybe I obey. Maybe I fool the authority into thinking I've obeyed. Maybe I raise a middle finger or a fist. Depends on the situation but what I'm not conditioned to do is just obey because it's an order. I somehow managed to dodge that particular indoctrination. I'm often appalled by the behaviour of the ones who didn't but not always - it's a backdoor mind hack after all - sometimes it can be exploited for profit and/or lulz

I think ultimately self discipline is what's needed.
How many people out there would start killing, raping, pillaging, littering, if it were no longer 'against the law'?
How many of their respective faiths would do the same if they knew for certain their 'god', 'heaven', and/or 'hell' didn't exist?
...

From the rhetoric I take it you value discipline over education...  Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

[Perception]

I just got a call that my research methods class has been changed to an online class, so I registered for Perception, which looks good.

My schedule couldn't be more perfect this summer; late mornings, Monday through Thursday, with one online class. And one trip to the coast! All psychology, except for the geology field trip.

Phenomenology or physiology?

Psychology.

Sounds fun.

Should be, and I'll be interested in tying it into my neurophysiology class.

Yup, and given how perception is also based on the process of recognition, I wonder if it might tease-out some connections regarding Dissolvence and Emergence too

[Perception]

I just got a call that my research methods class has been changed to an online class, so I registered for Perception, which looks good.

My schedule couldn't be more perfect this summer; late mornings, Monday through Thursday, with one online class. And one trip to the coast! All psychology, except for the geology field trip.

Phenomenology or physiology?

Psychology.

Sounds fun.

[Perception]

I just got a call that my research methods class has been changed to an online class, so I registered for Perception, which looks good.

My schedule couldn't be more perfect this summer; late mornings, Monday through Thursday, with one online class. And one trip to the coast! All psychology, except for the geology field trip.

Phenomenology or physiology?

Tape? Yeah trust Sony to improve the capacity of completely redundant and obsolete storage media. 

Are you thinking of cassette tapes? Because AFAIK high-density magnetic tape storage is still the standard for archiving ridiculous quantities of data, because it's more reliable and much cheaper than other media. They're also more comfortably transported. Taking entire drives to off-site backup is a risky endeavour. Last I heard (a year or two ago) Google primarily used tape for backup of everything Google.

Tape libraries.


Tape is still pretty perfect if you need to read a lot of data sequentially or don't have a need to search through it regularly, which suits archival uses just fine.

I ave no idea why, but I have carried an ADAT with me for the past decade.  Actually, I guess it's built like a tank, takes massive abuse and always works.  Guess I could have it repurposed to read graphene tape

[I really like this thread - also just read the quick release super adhesive thing - awesome!]

Being metal isn't always easy.

If it was, it wouldn't be metal.

It's easy in Norway.  It's genetically instilled in everyone.

NUH-UH!

Name one Norwegian that has no metal.

Knut Arild Hareide. Current leader of the Christian Democratic Party.

He looks Hungarian.

Well?  LOOK AT HIM!

LITHIUM IS A METAL

[okay, okay, maybe not a "hard" metal, still]

Watch your self, putrid little thing,

We might have to work around some visibility and presentation issues, but have you read yatto's work?

no. what's that about?

we strike the trunk and let it fall.