Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura sued the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration on Monday, alleging full-body scans and pat-downs at airport checkpoints violate his right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
Ventura is asking a federal judge in Minnesota to issue an injunction ordering officials to stop subjecting him to "warrantless and suspicionless" scans and body searches.
The lawsuit, which also names Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and TSA Administrator John Pistole as defendants, argues the searches are "unwarranted and unreasonable intrusions on Governor Ventura's personal privacy and dignity and are a justifiable cause for him to be concerned for his personal health and well-being."
According to the lawsuit, Ventura received a hip replacement in 2008, and since then, his titanium implant has set off metal detectors at airport security checkpoints. The lawsuit said that prior to last November officials had used a non-invasive hand-held wand to scan his body as a secondary security measure.
But when Ventura set off the metal detector in November, he was instead subjected to a body pat-down and was not given the option of a scan with a hand-held wand or an exemption for being a frequent traveler, the lawsuit said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41242600/ns/travel-news/
Good luck with that one Jesse.
You know, I like Jessie. I think he may be a bit "out there" but I like him. I haven't seen his "Conspiracy Theory" show, but it's pissed off enough people that I have to wonder if he isn't hitting a little to close to home on some stuff.
I hope this lawsuit, if nothing else, opens a few people's eyes.
Not that I'm holding my breath...
I like that he takes it to the wall.
Mostly I think he's a self-important asshole, though.
Quote from: Nigel on January 25, 2011, 07:30:27 PM
I like that he takes it to the wall.
Mostly I think he's a self-important asshole, though.
That's why we love him.
he's a self important asshole, but he really seems like he's on our side. Which I can't say for a lot of politicians.
somebody on FB was talking about hsi conspiracy theory show, specifically in reference to Fusion Centers, which I had never heard of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center -- scary!
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
he's a self important asshole, but he really seems like he's on our side. Which I can't say for a lot of politicians.
Unless you live in Minnesota, and like things like roads and schools.
Yeah, he's on our side. :lol:
shit, I guess he must be suing DHS for entirely personal reasons
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:16:31 PM
shit, I guess he must be suing DHS for entirely personal reasons publicity
Perish the very notion.
meh, go ahead and demonize him, but he's defending privacy. If his lawsuit succeeds it will have helped us. And even if it doesn't, bringing this issue into the public sphere helps legitimize the importance of privacy and our rights.
What we NEED is for people with a degree of political clout to champion these issues. I'm not holding my breath for somebody with a pure heart and a clean record to do it. Ventura is taking a risk to fight off the police state, and that's cool by me.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
meh, go ahead and demonize him,
So, the truth about someone is "demonizing" that person?
However, having done a bit of digging, I have confused Ventura with a Wisconsin governor, and so it wasn't the truth. Argument retracted.
Doesn't matter anyway. I predict he will have an 'accident'.
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 25, 2011, 09:45:02 PM
Doesn't matter anyway. I predict he will have an 'accident'.
No, they'll just play up his Truther comments from a year back, and discredit him.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
meh, go ahead and demonize him,
So, the truth about someone is "demonizing" that person?
the truth that this is an ego driven publicity stunt? and if so, does that invalidate the Good Fight
TM for privacy?
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
meh, go ahead and demonize him,
So, the truth about someone is "demonizing" that person?
the truth that this is an ego driven publicity stunt? and if so, does that invalidate the Good FightTM for privacy?
How nice of you to ignore the rest of my post, where I fucking retracted my statement.
Rest assured, that won't happen again. I'll just dig my fucking heels in and howl all fucking day.
FFS.
did you retract this? this is what I was referring to
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:16:31 PM
shit, I guess he must be suing DHS for entirely personal reasons publicity
Perish the very notion.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:50:05 PM
Rest assured, that won't happen again. I'll just dig my fucking heels in and howl all fucking day.
for fuck's sake roger, seriously?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
meh, go ahead and demonize him,
So, the truth about someone is "demonizing" that person?
However, having done a bit of digging, I have confused Ventura with a Wisconsin governor, and so it wasn't the truth. Argument retracted.
This post. The one you quoted. The one that followed the statement quoted above.
alright, to me it looked like the claim that this was a publicity stunt was separate from the claim that he hates roads and schools. You retracted the roads and schools bit, it wasn't clear to me that the publicity stunt point was automatically retracted too. My bad.
Well, I think then that I'll just bow out of this conversation.
Can't it be a publicity stunt, a defense of our privacy, a play for personal gain, and a fight for constitutional rights all at the same time?
I mean, really.
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Maybe he understands the fucking constitution and wants strange people to stop groping him.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 26, 2011, 01:44:23 PM
Can't it be a publicity stunt, a defense of our privacy, a play for personal gain, and a fight for constitutional rights all at the same time?
I mean, really.
Yea, this. At least it seems like a step in the right direction, whatever his motivations. And frankly, his "celebrity" and his financial resources (which I imagine are at least more significant than your average Joe Schmoe) will likely enable him to put more of a spotlight on the issue and to throw more money and lawyers at the case, moreso than the average person who probably couldn't maintain a lawyer to keep throwing paperwork back at the opposing side, who will likely just try to bury you in paperwork and procedure before the case even goes anywhere. Even it is a losing battle and even if he is doing it for publicity, maybe it will help turn a public eye back to the issue (publicity's not always bad) because, hey, Someone From TV is in trouble!
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 26, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Maybe he understands the fucking constitution and wants strange people to stop groping him.
My mistake, he's a true blue patriot and this is are country etc. Didn't mean to tread on the jingo baby. Keep on not messing with texas while truckin. (P.S. they're searching you for weapons and explosives)
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 26, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Maybe he understands the fucking constitution and wants strange people to stop groping him.
My mistake, he's a true blue patriot and this is are country etc. Didn't mean to tread on the jingo baby. Keep on not messing with texas while truckin. (P.S. they're searching you for weapons and explosives)
You're a fucking idiot.
I'm an idiot, you're right, I didn't properly read the article, :( Shit. No. I'm with him. I saw who the article was referring to, and lept to a LOT of conclusions
And I am a little touchy right now, sorry.
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Well, I see that you have been keeping your standard-issue, jaded cynicism in fine working order.
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 26, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Maybe he understands the fucking constitution and wants strange people to stop groping him.
My mistake, he's a true blue patriot and this is are country etc. Didn't mean to tread on the jingo baby. Keep on not messing with texas while truckin. (P.S. they're searching you for weapons and explosives)
Jesus H Christ.
I give up on this one.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2011, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 26, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 26, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
He just wants the DHS off his back whenever he decides to lug that minigun around to remind us that he was in a boring film ninety years ago.
Maybe he understands the fucking constitution and wants strange people to stop groping him.
My mistake, he's a true blue patriot and this is are country etc. Didn't mean to tread on the jingo baby. Keep on not messing with texas while truckin. (P.S. they're searching you for weapons and explosives)
Jesus H Christ.
I give up on this one.
Not yet, he retracted.
Nah, you were absolutely in the right. It was just a sad case of blue-on-blue. I have a scheme going in the other window that requires me to post a lot of low volume white noise to a forum.
No, considering that he's a disabled frequent flier, what the fuck? I'm hearing about a lot of poor fucks with ostomy bags getting a hard time too. One young guy, bladder cancer outpatient, ended up soaked in his own piss, and they didn't even give him fresh clothes.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2011, 09:16:31 PM
shit, I guess he must be suing DHS for entirely personal reasons publicity
Perish the very notion.
Like Penn Jillette is any better