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Started by Cain, January 25, 2007, 09:39:52 PM

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The Lamanite

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I had to think about it for a minute, and still can't come up nothing better than:


LOOK AT THIS YOU DUMB FUCK


I think that'll capture people's attention and stimulate the imagination a lot better.

Payne

Not very rich in imagery though is it?

The Black Iron Prison is a dark concept, in many ways for some people. The name reflects that, and we can't be accused of false advertising.

If you look elsewhere there are dialogues that suggest alternatives such as The Golden Sphere of Opportunity, but none of them have as much impact as BIP.

The Lamanite

well............


A person might look at it for one of  two reasons:

To see what all the dumb fucks are reading.

or

Becoming enraged that they're being called a dumb fuck right to their face.

Perhaps this will create enraged energy, which will covert to fast and furious reading and almost immidiate enlightment, and walk away from the experience as not being such a dumb fuck and to be weary of looking at things that say: hey dumb fuck look at me.

woudln't you agree?

Payne

It's an interesting "hook" viewed from that point of view, but I really don't think people WILL read it because they're enraged at being called a dumb fuck. If that was a strategy that worked, Coca-Cola wouldn't have all the airy-fairy commercials, they'd be saying "Drink Coca-Cola, Bitch", literally.

Also the BIP isn't about enlightenment really. It gives you a tool to view the prision you are in, but it's up to you what you do with that. Enlightenment isn't OUR responsibility, it's the dumb fucks job to do that, or it's meaningless.

So you, object to the use of the word black, becuase of it's negative connotations, right? Isn't finding out that you are "unenlightened" a negative thing? Isn't, perhaps, finding out that you are not thinking for youself and include the negative connotation of having not been thinking for yourself up until that point?

You're getting too caught up in the metaphor itself, at the cost of the actual content of the piece.

Stick around for a while, and you'll find out that Black Iron Prison is a very apt name for something created by the denizens of this board, some of whom are actually teh EVIL.

The Lamanite

Enlightenment, viewing an individuals prison, drinking coke, beating off to midget porn. It's all the same to me, with same resuslts. Some sort of gratification from an experience that I might like to engage in again.


but

Black= something bad, at least it seems that way to your average Joe.

The term group-think comes to mind. It carries on a traditon that is imprisoning(is that a word?) in it's self.

example:

Spider-Man wears a black suit, and must break free of his "black" prison.


Someone doesn't realize they're really a dumfuck unless you feel judgments ugly wrath.

Hey Dumfuck.
Who the fuck is calling me a dumfuck?
I did, you're a dumfuck- and this is why......

one of two things happen.

1. Oh shit, I didn't know I was engaged in so much dum fuckery. Thanks for the advice.

2. Why the fuck is this guy telling me i'm a dumfuck, he must be
the dumfuck.

Either way u walk, questioning the whole experience.


Under the current title:

Black Iron Prison,

eh......it's strong, and bold but.............it just doesn't sound interesting, and ultimatley

LOOK AT THIS YOU DUMB FUCK

serves the purpose of pamphlet, and after I viewed a few more pages, I think this only strengthens my argument.

Payne


The Lamanite


LMNO

Simply put, the adjective "Black" modifies the noun "Iron", not the noun "Prison"

"Black Iron" connotates "cold wrought" iron, which refers to two things:

1. Its use in folkore.
2. Its physical properties.

Please take some time to aquaint yourself with these references.  They may prove enlightening.






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AFK

And honestly, I don't think the "Black" is as off-putting as you think.  I handed out a bunch of the pamphlets out at my last job right after we finished it.  I can't remember anyone saying anything about the name of it.  In fact, I think it intrigued them.  Okay, sure, them knowing me probably had some impact, however we had a working relationship where we called each other on the carpet on a regular basis so I know they wouldn't have held back. 

Besides, another way to look at it is a kind of Starbuck's Pebble test (if you are familiar with the Principia).  Someone who has any semblance of an open mind is going to look beyond the "Black Iron Prison" name and delve into it.  Others may be put-off by it and not pick it up.  But, realistically, shouldn't we be more interested in the former than the latter?  Unless you have some pie-in-the-sky vision of reaching everybody.  In that case, just change the title to "People", delete the material inside and replace it with celebrity gossip.  Then you'll be golden. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 29, 2007, 01:52:49 PM

however we had a working relationship where we called each other on the carpet


WTF does this expression mean?

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AFK

It's pretty much the same idea as calling bullshit.  I think it may be a New England thing.  To be honest I haven't heard it used by anyone outside of Maine so it may be just another one of our silly expressions. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mourning Star

Okay.  For those of us that are having difficulty in locating A4 paper... (8 1/2 x 11 is slightly smaller)  are there other versions available?


Also, I believe the numbers in the assembly guide are muddled...


LMNO

What's muddled are the order of the pages.  You can't print them out two sided.  You have to print them out 1 sided, and combine them on a photocopier.


Talk to Synaptyx about reformatting, if you want.

AFK

I actually found it mildly symbolic that you had to kind of think outside of the box a bit to assemble the thing.  A little "Trial by Error" and you'll get it. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Triple Zero

i actually just printed it doublesided, folded it in half and thought "fuck it if i'm gonna reorder those pages"
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