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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Telarus on August 21, 2009, 04:42:09 am

Title: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Telarus on August 21, 2009, 04:42:09 am
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iP1GlMCOzYSi8kbAUY1lLDdqc4vAD9A70MDO0

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Mexico decriminalizes small-scale drug possession

By MARK STEVENSON (AP) 50 minutes ago

MEXICO CITY Mexico enacted a controversial law Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging free government treatment for drug dependency.

The law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution when the law goes into effect Friday.

Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory although the law does not specify penalties for noncompliance.

Mexican authorities said the change just recognized the long-standing practice here of not prosecuting people caught with small amounts of drugs that they could reasonably claim were for personal use, while setting rules and limits.

Under previous law, possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts. In practice, nobody was prosecuted and sentenced to jail for small-time possession, said Bernardo Espino del Castillo, the coordinator of state offices for the attorney general's office.

"We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he added.

"This person obviously couldn't be charged, not yesterday, not the day before, not a year ago, but the bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion."

In the past, police sometimes hauled suspects to police stations and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.

"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty ... for a practice that was already in place," Espino del Castillo said.

In 2006, the U.S. government publicly criticized a similar bill. Then President Vicente Fox sent that law which did not have a mandatory treatment provision back to Congress for reconsideration.

The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.

The law was approved by Congress before it recessed in late April, and President Felipe Calderon, who is leading a major offensive against drug cartels, waited most of the summer before enacting it.

Calderon's original proposal would have required first-time detainees to complete treatment or face jail time. But the lower house of Congress, where Calderon's party was short of a majority, weakened the bill.

Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people during Calderon's term. In the face of growing domestic drug use, Mexico has increased its focus on prevention and drug treatment.

Sen. Pablo Gomez of the leftist Democratic Revolution Party praised the legislation: "This law achieves the decriminalization of drugs, and in exchange offers government recovery treatment for addicts."

Previously, possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, with some leeway for those considered addicts and caught with smaller amounts. But in practice, relatively few people were prosecuted and sentenced to jail for small-time possession.

While the United States openly expressed concern about the 2006 law, this time around it has been more circumspect.

Asked about the new law in July, U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske said he would adopt a "wait-and-see attitude."

"If the sanction becomes completely nonexistent I think that would be a concern, but I actually didn't read quite that level of de facto (decriminalization) in the law," said Kerlikowske, who heads the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 21, 2009, 05:20:18 am
Seems like something entirely almost non-newsworthy - codifying existing practice into law - but it's already being misreported and exaggerated:
hxxp://www.pro8news.com/news/local/53891192.html
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Cain on August 21, 2009, 08:54:43 am
I wonder what the cartels actually think of this.

On one hand, drug prohibition means increased prices....on the other, drug culture has so fully taken hold in parts of Mexico now, denying the reality of the situation on the ground there is foolish.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on August 21, 2009, 08:06:42 pm
I like the bit about cutting out the extortion and bribery of the corrupt asses that run the police over there.  And this has got to be bad news for the cartels, but they are making a killing, quite literally, over in Guatemala from what I hear, so they're already going for "higher ground" it seems.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 24, 2009, 08:56:37 pm
One of the downsides of this is that the reduction in unenforcable laws will cause an increase in trust in government.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Telarus on August 27, 2009, 04:16:03 am
:BUMP:

And now this:

http://blog.drugpolicy.org/2009/08/argentine-supreme-court-prison-time-for.html

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009
 
Argentine Court: Prison Time for Marijuana Possession Unconstitutional

Argentina's Supreme Court ruled today that imprisoning people for possessing small amounts of marijuana is unconstitutional. The seven judges rule unanimously, stating:

    "Each individual adult is responsible for making decisions freely about their desired lifestyle without state interference. Private conduct is allowed unless it constitutes a real danger or causes damage to property or the rights of others."

The ruling follows Mexico's decision to decriminalize drug possession for personal use less than a week earlier.

After the ruling, Argentina's Cabinet Chief Anibal Fernandez celebrated the end of "the repressive politics invented by the Nixon administration."

I'm looking forward to seeing how Argentina's drug laws change in the wake of this ruling. It's heartening to see another country denouncing the imposition of U.S. drug war policies on the rest of the world.


Posted by Maureen Brookes @ 4:48 PM

More Sauce: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/10082


Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 27, 2009, 04:19:50 am
:BUMP:

And now this:

http://blog.drugpolicy.org/2009/08/argentine-supreme-court-prison-time-for.html

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009
 
Argentine Court: Prison Time for Marijuana Possession Unconstitutional

Argentina's Supreme Court ruled today that imprisoning people for possessing small amounts of marijuana is unconstitutional. The seven judges rule unanimously, stating:

    "Each individual adult is responsible for making decisions freely about their desired lifestyle without state interference. Private conduct is allowed unless it constitutes a real danger or causes damage to property or the rights of others."

The ruling follows Mexico's decision to decriminalize drug possession for personal use less than a week earlier.

After the ruling, Argentina's Cabinet Chief Anibal Fernandez celebrated the end of "the repressive politics invented by the Nixon administration."

I'm looking forward to seeing how Argentina's drug laws change in the wake of this ruling. It's heartening to see another country denouncing the imposition of U.S. drug war policies on the rest of the world.


Posted by Maureen Brookes @ 4:48 PM

More Sauce: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/10082




This is even more reason to go hiking in the Appalachians.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Captain Utopia on August 27, 2009, 06:05:28 am
How long now?
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/marlboro.jpg) :1fap:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 27, 2009, 01:17:16 pm
Damn, I need to go back to Buenos Aries.  That place was amazing.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2009, 03:21:07 pm
:BUMP:

And now this:

http://blog.drugpolicy.org/2009/08/argentine-supreme-court-prison-time-for.html

Quote
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
 
Argentine Court: Prison Time for Marijuana Possession Unconstitutional

Argentina's Supreme Court ruled today that imprisoning people for possessing small amounts of marijuana is unconstitutional. The seven judges rule unanimously, stating:

    "Each individual adult is responsible for making decisions freely about their desired lifestyle without state interference. Private conduct is allowed unless it constitutes a real danger or causes damage to property or the rights of others."

The ruling follows Mexico's decision to decriminalize drug possession for personal use less than a week earlier.

After the ruling, Argentina's Cabinet Chief Anibal Fernandez celebrated the end of "the repressive politics invented by the Nixon administration."

I'm looking forward to seeing how Argentina's drug laws change in the wake of this ruling. It's heartening to see another country denouncing the imposition of U.S. drug war policies on the rest of the world.


Posted by Maureen Brookes @ 4:48 PM

More Sauce: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/10082




This is even more reason to go hiking in the Appalachians.



Comparable kine, though the one has better women.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 27, 2009, 03:43:49 pm
How long now?
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/marlboro.jpg) :1fap:

Ok, Now your shitlist rating has dropped.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on August 27, 2009, 04:10:02 pm
How long now?
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/marlboro.jpg) :1fap:

:vom:

Filter cigarettes? If they're ever gonna legalize marihuana for realz, I'd hope they are going to offer pre-rolled ones like cigars, that is, in many different flavours and qualities but still nearly always better than a filter cig.

- 000,
purist.

Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 27, 2009, 04:12:10 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2009, 04:28:14 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

Nice stiff cardstock, cut thin and rolled into a little spiral... Hail St. Gulick.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Brotep on August 27, 2009, 04:35:30 pm
This thread is both more and less cool than what I expected.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on August 27, 2009, 04:35:51 pm
I personally prefer the water pipe method, however, if forced to roll, I love the flavored papers.  Licorice and green apple are nice.

This pic was cool..... blend no 420  :lulz:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2009, 04:43:31 pm
I personally prefer the water pipe method, however, if forced to roll, I love the flavored papers.  Licorice and green apple are nice.

This pic was cool..... blend no 420  :lulz:

I really like the new plant cellulose papers...
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 27, 2009, 04:51:16 pm
Rat, you can get the clear cellulose in diff colours as well, which is swote.
This thread is both more and less cool than what I expected.

all marijuana related conversations online get like this, mostly. Troof.



Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on August 27, 2009, 05:40:56 pm
I personally prefer the water pipe method, however, if forced to roll, I love the flavored papers.  Licorice and green apple are nice.

This pic was cool..... blend no 420  :lulz:

I really like the new plant cellulose papers...

Nice but the $ they ask is insane.  After all JOB is still 99 cents a pack!  :wink:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2009, 06:22:09 pm
I personally prefer the water pipe method, however, if forced to roll, I love the flavored papers.  Licorice and green apple are nice.

This pic was cool..... blend no 420  :lulz:

I really like the new plant cellulose papers...

Nice but the $ they ask is insane.  After all JOB is still 99 cents a pack!  :wink:

Yeah, but it tastes like paper  :argh!:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on August 28, 2009, 01:54:35 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

never tried it actually, but a friend of mine had his own cig rolling machine (which included filters) with which he used to make cigs with a tiny amount of weed in them for casual smoking, he called them "relaxo's" :) Afaik he never had problems with filters. I'm more concerned about the (lack of) quality in tobacco in filter cigarettes than the filters themselves (which is the no.1 reason why I dont like pre-rolled joints, they are often made with filter cig tobacco).

also, yum blueberry!
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 28, 2009, 03:07:26 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

never tried it actually, but a friend of mine had his own cig rolling machine (which included filters) with which he used to make cigs with a tiny amount of weed in them for casual smoking, he called them "relaxo's" :) Afaik he never had problems with filters. I'm more concerned about the (lack of) quality in tobacco in filter cigarettes than the filters themselves (which is the no.1 reason why I dont like pre-rolled joints, they are often made with filter cig tobacco).

also, yum blueberry!


Putting tobacco in a joint makes the baby Eris cry.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Cramulus on August 28, 2009, 03:15:44 pm
protip: never visit europe. That's how they roll.





I don't smoke tobacco. Took one hit off an english joint and my head went  :pukka:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 04:54:26 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

never tried it actually, but a friend of mine had his own cig rolling machine (which included filters) with which he used to make cigs with a tiny amount of weed in them for casual smoking, he called them "relaxo's" :) Afaik he never had problems with filters. I'm more concerned about the (lack of) quality in tobacco in filter cigarettes than the filters themselves (which is the no.1 reason why I dont like pre-rolled joints, they are often made with filter cig tobacco).

also, yum blueberry!

yes, flavoured tobacco does make a nice doob.

Also, euroStonerSpags, the best mix of tobacco is apparently half rolling tobacco and half cigarette baccy. cos of the burning temperature.

However thaty tends to taste like buttnuggets and its baaad.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on August 28, 2009, 06:06:13 pm

Putting tobacco in a joint makes the baby Eris cry.

Eh, after the Dead show back in April, we all hung out with a band from the UK that was playing at Metalfest that same weekend and they rolled up a nice spliff and the mixture was quite enjoyable. Course, I smoke cigarettes as well, so my tastes may vary from others'.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2009, 06:37:22 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

never tried it actually, but a friend of mine had his own cig rolling machine (which included filters) with which he used to make cigs with a tiny amount of weed in them for casual smoking, he called them "relaxo's" :) Afaik he never had problems with filters. I'm more concerned about the (lack of) quality in tobacco in filter cigarettes than the filters themselves (which is the no.1 reason why I dont like pre-rolled joints, they are often made with filter cig tobacco).

also, yum blueberry!


Putting tobacco in a joint makes the baby Eris cry.

Yeah, but what about putting pot in a cigarette?
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 06:45:55 pm
the pic was cool,

obviously anyone whose ever smoked a joint knows if ya don't use a roach it does nothing, trip.

never tried it actually, but a friend of mine had his own cig rolling machine (which included filters) with which he used to make cigs with a tiny amount of weed in them for casual smoking, he called them "relaxo's" :) Afaik he never had problems with filters. I'm more concerned about the (lack of) quality in tobacco in filter cigarettes than the filters themselves (which is the no.1 reason why I dont like pre-rolled joints, they are often made with filter cig tobacco).

also, yum blueberry!


Putting tobacco in a joint makes the baby Eris cry.

Yeah, but what about putting pot in a cigarette?

thats worse!
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2009, 06:48:30 pm
How so?  Makes a cig better, if you ask me.  Like putting whiskey in your coffee.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 07:02:08 pm
How so?  Makes a cig better, if you ask me.  Like putting whiskey in your coffee.

waste of thc contentz :argh!:
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2009, 07:02:43 pm
How so?  Makes a cig better, if you ask me.  Like putting whiskey in your coffee.

waste of thc contentz :argh!:

Weirdo.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2009, 07:02:51 pm
I'd rather have an irish coffee than a whiskey with a splash of coffee.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 07:10:06 pm
How so?  Makes a cig better, if you ask me.  Like putting whiskey in your coffee.

waste of thc contentz :argh!:



Weirdo.

yes.

but that's besides the point. :argh!: occasionally I will roll a roached cig that has some green in it, but the filter is bad. wont get as much high for your
roll a little tobacco cig with a roach and a bit of baccy is nice, i'll give you.

but no filtertips.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2009, 07:10:56 pm
Who the hell rolls their own and puts a filter in?
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 07:11:26 pm
Who the hell rolls their own and puts a filter in?

most britspags.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 28, 2009, 07:11:59 pm
Who the hell rolls their own and puts a filter in?

The English.  They're fucking weird.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: LMNO on August 28, 2009, 07:12:36 pm
Well, mus' be genetic, innit?
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 28, 2009, 07:15:51 pm
Well, mus' be genetic, innit?

just ciggies, mind. they sell spare filter tips next to rolling papers in shops.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on August 28, 2009, 07:33:07 pm
I've only ever smoked hash with tobacco...and that was in Spain.  I believe they put a filter in...don't remember.  For obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 28, 2009, 08:12:30 pm
*sigh*

fine you want your joint pure you can have it.

just remember that dutch weed is about twice as strong.


http://www.trimbos.nl/Downloads/Producten/DefinitiefTHC%202007%20definitief%20sept%20RNI.pdf
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on August 28, 2009, 10:25:44 pm
Who the hell rolls their own and puts a filter in?

The English.  They're fucking weird.

Yes they are. Apparently there's something wrong with the shape of my cigs as well (slightly cone shaped, makes sense no? you dont smoke the last bit anyway).

The shape of british rolled cigs is more like abortion-shape.

Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 28, 2009, 11:44:52 pm
*sigh*

fine you want your joint pure you can have it.

just remember that dutch weed is about twice as strong.


http://www.trimbos.nl/Downloads/Producten/DefinitiefTHC%202007%20definitief%20sept%20RNI.pdf

My dutch is basically non existent, but I think that says that the THC content is 6-29% for various types of weed?

That seems in line with the US stuff.

Also, Trip, can you tell me if what I've heard about the dutch preferring cheaper less potent weed is true?
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on August 29, 2009, 02:58:08 pm
quick scan / summary / translation: this research (2007) found that on average, Dutch weed contains significantly more THC (16%) than average foreign weed (6%). Hash from Dutch weed also contains more THC (29%) than foreign hash (13%). Dutch weed has much higher concentrations today than it used to have in the 90s, however the rise in THC content has stopped and compared to the previous report even a slight decline (17,5% avg THC content in Dutch weed in 2006).

And yes, in my experience, especially people that prefer to smoke pure joints, prefer to use less potent weed. Simply because a pure joint from potent Dutch weed will fuck you up :) Often the homegrown variety of weed ("outside weed") is less potent, but you also have a lot of variation in taste (although most of it is not bad, I remember a not-very-potent homegrown weed that was pretty harsh on the throat when smoked pure).
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Telarus on August 29, 2009, 09:03:53 pm
So the key factor in those type of numbers is, surprisingly, grow conditions (and not the strain of cannabis, although that influences your max % possible).

If you make absolutely sure that any and all male plants in the vicinity are mercilessly killed/removed, then the female plants' production skyrockets (thus most Deities associated with Cannabis are female, starting with the Scythian Great Mother, who I have historically traced from the Scythians thro Rhea/Cybele to Ma-Bellona, one of the '3 Strifes', aka an aspect/sister/other-name of Eris/Enyo).

There are a few other grow secrets that have been embedded in the old mythology surrounding the plant, and using more than one in conjunction will bump % yield a bit more.

These techniques have been known for ever, it's just the current tech level that makes them easy to use and easy to communicate.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on August 30, 2009, 12:14:57 am
So the key factor in those type of numbers is, surprisingly, grow conditions (and not the strain of cannabis, although that influences your max % possible).

If you make absolutely sure that any and all male plants in the vicinity are mercilessly killed/removed, then the female plants' production skyrockets (thus most Deities associated with Cannabis are female, starting with the Scythian Great Mother, who I have historically traced from the Scythians thro Rhea/Cybele to Ma-Bellona, one of the '3 Strifes', aka an aspect/sister/other-name of Eris/Enyo).

There are a few other grow secrets that have been embedded in the old mythology surrounding the plant, and using more than one in conjunction will bump % yield a bit more.

These techniques have been known for ever, it's just the current tech level that makes them easy to use and easy to communicate.

Growing Dutch weed is a littlebit more professional than that though :)
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Reginald Ret on September 17, 2009, 12:54:17 pm
Moat illegal growers here get busted for the massive amounts of power they are stealing...
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 22, 2009, 04:15:06 pm
Legal growing, huh?  Go BAI and Bella Go!  It's going to become the leading industry in CA before too long.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Cain on September 22, 2009, 04:17:24 pm
It's going to become the only industry in CA before too long.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 22, 2009, 04:21:45 pm
Nah, our farming is still pretty strong in a lot of areas.  And I put wine in that category.

Not to mention tourism.  And fake boobs.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 22, 2009, 04:24:57 pm
well, they did most of the lumber yards, and most of the industry, down round here, so its mostly all people can do to make their money. If it was all on the books it would be the number one cash crop.

why not legalise it to pay for the shit roads and fix the wank healtcare?

ohyeah...

(http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8157/antiiw3.jpg)



Niiice.  :lol:

Well, true enough--I'm thinking it'll be interesting to see what comes out of Sacramento this year around budget time.  The Annual Clusterfuck is starting to wear thin on even the baby-state-congress assholes...and Arnold's about out of gubernatorial years...tick-tock on that man's clock.

The CAPTA conference is up in Sacramento again this year...I wasn't going to go, but I think marching in on the Leg offices as we inevitably do (and possibly leaving some GREAT porn there) sounds too lailtastic to turn down.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 22, 2009, 04:32:07 pm
Hush your mouf, boy!  :lol: 

YOU CAN TAKE OUR LOGGING INDUSTRY, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE---OUR CABERNEEEETT!!!

I love the wine in Napa--I'd be really fucking depressed if it burned down.  /not telling the future, honest
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Triple Zero on September 22, 2009, 04:57:11 pm
Quote
Dutch weed contains significantly more THC (16%) than average foreign weed (6%)
sorry trip, I disagree. compared to euro or brit weed, heck yes, although this large bag of G13 sat next to me has 26% thc, which is about double the usual strains growing round here (grape ape, blueberry, sour diesel and the misc purple Mendocino hippie grown strains) and it was totally organically grown.

bar the hormone spray, but that's from an organism, so, that makes it organic? right?

Even some of the outdoor strains hit up to 18%. It's freaky great conditions here for outdoor crops. speaking of which its the run up to harvest season so we got two dead mexicans, three shootings and one stabbing already this week.

illegal growers. lol.

we got a permit :)

okay, fair enough. I did say average foreign weed, though :)

btw how do you measure THC content?

also cannabis is actually LEGAL in CA now?? cause then you guys got it better than we do :-P but you say it's not on the books, so I guess it's kind of the same then. stupid government. if they would just legalize the shit they could tax it.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2009, 05:00:01 pm
Weed prohibition is preposterous.  We're all being trolled.

I feel a rant coming on.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 22, 2009, 05:07:50 pm
Quote
Dutch weed contains significantly more THC (16%) than average foreign weed (6%)
sorry trip, I disagree. compared to euro or brit weed, heck yes, although this large bag of G13 sat next to me has 26% thc, which is about double the usual strains growing round here (grape ape, blueberry, sour diesel and the misc purple Mendocino hippie grown strains) and it was totally organically grown.

bar the hormone spray, but that's from an organism, so, that makes it organic? right?

Even some of the outdoor strains hit up to 18%. It's freaky great conditions here for outdoor crops. speaking of which its the run up to harvest season so we got two dead mexicans, three shootings and one stabbing already this week.

illegal growers. lol.

we got a permit :)

okay, fair enough. I did say average foreign weed, though :)

btw how do you measure THC content?

also cannabis is actually LEGAL in CA now?? cause then you guys got it better than we do :-P but you say it's not on the books, so I guess it's kind of the same then. stupid government. if they would just legalize the shit they could tax it.

Trip, you can get a permit to grow/sell medical marijuana in CA...the Obama administration took the wind out of CA lawmakers' sails by stating they won't be going after med mj users or distributors any longer to any real degree.  So there's been a uh preponderance of sellers, growers, etc. lately.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 22, 2009, 05:29:19 pm
Fuck You California! :argh!:

I think, in general, the US attitude seems to be shifting. I got picked up a couple years ago and the cop found a 1/4 oz of high quality kine bud. He took it and didn't say another word about it. No ticket, nothing.

I found out later from my friend who manages a local strip club that some cops swing by and trade the contraband they pick up for lap dances.   :lulz:

Also apparently, some of the cops told him they also take it home for personal use... and they don't write out a ticket, so there's no evidence issues. I thought that was probably nonsense due to drug testing etc... but then the Harbinger of Distraction passed a 10 panel test using fake pee, so I guess that's really just a joke.
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: fomenter on September 22, 2009, 06:09:28 pm
Fuck You California! :argh!:

I think, in general, the US attitude seems to be shifting. I got picked up a couple years ago and the cop found a 1/4 oz of high quality kine bud. He took it and didn't say another word about it. No ticket, nothing.

I found out later from my friend who manages a local strip club that some cops swing by and trade the contraband they pick up for lap dances.   :lulz:

Also apparently, some of the cops told him they also take it home for personal use... and they don't write out a ticket, so there's no evidence issues. I thought that was probably nonsense due to drug testing etc... but then the Harbinger of Distraction passed a 10 panel test using fake pee, so I guess that's really just a joke.

gov employees are protected and cant be given random tests, so the only time they would be tested is if there is an accident or investigation of some kind, they are also protected from being fired, in most cases the gov is obligated to give them payed suspensions and treatment programs..
these rules may vary from one department/gov office to the next or depend on what union they belong to but i believe they are generally true...
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 22, 2009, 06:46:45 pm
Fuck You California! :argh!:

I think, in general, the US attitude seems to be shifting. I got picked up a couple years ago and the cop found a 1/4 oz of high quality kine bud. He took it and didn't say another word about it. No ticket, nothing.

I found out later from my friend who manages a local strip club that some cops swing by and trade the contraband they pick up for lap dances.   :lulz:

Also apparently, some of the cops told him they also take it home for personal use... and they don't write out a ticket, so there's no evidence issues. I thought that was probably nonsense due to drug testing etc... but then the Harbinger of Distraction passed a 10 panel test using fake pee, so I guess that's really just a joke.

gov employees are protected and cant be given random tests, so the only time they would be tested is if there is an accident or investigation of some kind, they are also protected from being fired, in most cases the gov is obligated to give them payed suspensions and treatment programs..
these rules may vary from one department/gov office to the next or depend on what union they belong to but i believe they are generally true...


How Ironic...
Title: Re: Well, there goes prohibition south of the border
Post by: Jenne on September 23, 2009, 01:01:09 am
There are many government workers that the bosses KNOW they smoke and they just get the nod/wink or LARGE ADVANCE NOTICE of mandatory testing dates...yes, it's mightily relaxed around here.

Which makes cases like Tommy Chong's all the more scandalous and brutal yet silly.