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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Dimocritus on October 15, 2009, 11:07:07 pm

Title: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 15, 2009, 11:07:07 pm
So, there's a topic for books that you are currently reading and topics for music you are currently listening to, so why not have a topic for sharing your favorite films? Anything goes: documentaries, foreign, independent, and I suppose even :vom: Hollywood, if that's your thing. A few I've watched recently that were pretty good:

Irreversible-A profound, thought provoking, yet disturbing film from a place where people can make movies without blowing all sorts of shit up. Directed by  Gaspar Noé.

The King of Kong: A Fist Full of Quarters-A documentary with some real life characters so screwy that it couldn't have been written any better. Directed by Seth Gordon.

POPaganda: The Art & Crimes of Ron English-Another documentary. Hi-jacking billboards for the betterment of mankind! Directed by Pedro Carvajal.


Please share some of your favorites!



Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 15, 2009, 11:29:24 pm
wut
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Johnny on October 16, 2009, 12:00:27 am

"Natural Born Killers"

"The City of Lost Children"

"Die Nibelungen"


i know theres some more i like, but i always have a hard time remembering. (I have more of a musical memory)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 16, 2009, 12:41:04 am
wut

Hrmm... Maybe you're more familiar with the term "talkies?" Anyhow...

A few quick ones before I forget:

Altered States

Dark City

Equilibrium 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Johnny on October 16, 2009, 01:19:05 am

Im really interested in Dune, but ive heard Lynch's version sucks @ss, and i have no idea where id find the televesion series version.

Anyone have a take on this?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 16, 2009, 01:39:42 am
I just watched The Golden Compass and it was pretty kickass for someone who hasn't read the books yet.  I do hope they make the sequel just so the interest in the books gets kicked up some more.  All 3 of the dudes I live with ended up reading the whole story once the movie came out.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: BabylonHoruv on October 16, 2009, 01:48:09 am
His Dark Materials trilogy (the one in which Golden Compass is the first) is great, the movie is great also but they kinda changed the end, and because of that I doubt there will be any sequels.

My favoritiest movie ever is Cannibal Holocaust.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 16, 2009, 02:21:20 am
His Dark Materials is an awesome trilogy.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on October 16, 2009, 04:14:06 am

Im really interested in Dune, but ive heard Lynch's version sucks @ss, and i have no idea where id find the televesion series version.

Anyone have a take on this?

Read the book.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 16, 2009, 04:25:25 am
I just watched The Golden Compass and it was pretty kickass for someone who hasn't read the books yet.  I do hope they make the sequel just so the interest in the books gets kicked up some more.  All 3 of the dudes I live with ended up reading the whole story once the movie came out.

You liked The Golden Compass? I saw it in the theatre and was kind of disappointed. Though I always have a problem with watching movies intended for a younger audience. I tend to judge them based on the same standards I would judge a movie intended for a more "sophisticated(?)" audience, it's a bad habit. I've been trying to counter act it with Harry Potter movies. I may check out the books, though, the subject matter seems interesting. Don't they end up killing god or something?


"Natural Born Killers"

"The City of Lost Children"

"Die Nibelungen"


i know theres some more i like, but i always have a hard time remembering. (I have more of a musical memory)

"True Romance", if you haven't seen it.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 16, 2009, 04:13:14 pm
I hate the name of this thread.

Wasn't there already a movie thread somewhere?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 16, 2009, 04:21:02 pm
Yeah.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 16, 2009, 11:42:35 pm
Yeah.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0)

Well, I suppose I could mosey on over there. My apologies for just assuming no one had made a thread like this. Although, not to say "Film Flam" is an awesome name or anything, but that topic's title isn't exactly what I would call creative  :sad:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 17, 2009, 09:29:03 pm
The Blues Brothers
Encino Man
Eraserhead
Battles Without Honour or Humanity
Conan the Barbarian
Dark Star
Bad Lieutenant
Hard Boiled
Ghost Dog Way of the Samurai
Brother
Visitor Q
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
12 Monkeys
Fearless Vampire Killers
Shadow of the Vampire
Gingersnaps 2
Pans Labyrinth
The Elephant Man
American Splendor
City of God
Die Hard
Cemetary Man
The Gods Must Be Crazy
Strange Brew
Naked Lunch
Sword of Doom
Dead Man


also, I like the David Lynch version of Dune. Of his films, its his least favorite, and I can see why... but David Lynch does at least capture a mood thats appropriate to the story. I like the spacing guild a lot better in the lynch version, for example, and I prefer his approach to special effects rather than CGI. I think Lynch hates that film specifically because of the amount of meddling from the production end, and this is probably one of the major things addressed in Mulholland Drive (and Inland Empire, as well, perhaps). Not to mention the cast is awesome.

The Sci-fi version is closer to the book, but is a constant wave of climax/anti-climax that gets really really old after a while. The cast is nowhere near as good, and the special effects are ok, but still that cheesy made-for-tv cgi that still wasnt that great at the time. On the plus side, it does cover children of dune, which is cool. Makes it all the way up to the part where Leto II becomes that weird sand god thing, which truthfully, is about where you should stop reading the books. God Emperor of Dune was crap. 400 pages of the SAME FUCKING CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, not to mention overt homosexual overtones between Leto II and the various Duncans. I mean, it would be hilarious to set that book in an office, where Leto II is just the gross morbidly obese boss that CONSTANTLY sexually harasses the same underling.

Also, I really like talking about movies, so I think overtime I will revisit this list and thread and talk about why I like each individual film.

The Blues Brothers
Its possible that this might objectively be the best comedy ever made. First of all, the movie is singularly unique for being the only movie to ever assemble a cast including some of the greatest blues/etc musicans of all time. No other movie will ever assemble Aretha Franklin, Cab Calloway, James Brown, John Lee Hooker, and Ray Charles. Not to mention being one of the only SNL movies to be any good (I like the Coneheads movie too), and being one of the only John Belushi films. Good cross reference of talent between SNL and Second City. Some of the best driving in any movie, genuinely impressive and realistic towards the beginning but slowly building in its level of ridiculousness towards the end. At the time, I believe it was the most expensive film ever made (just for the sheer number of cars they wrecked, and probably some of the paychecks they had to write). Anyway, this is easily one of the most iconic films of the century. Certainly a landmark in comedy that was never surpassed by anything released afterwards.

Encino Man
Seriously. I find it hard to describe to people the quality I see in this film. Firstly, its interesting to note that this is probably Pauly Shores most serious roll. Firstly, the comedy in this film doesnt revolve solely around Pauly Shore, if anything he's probably more of a straight man in this film than anything. I mean, the main theme of this movie is Sean Astin acting like a total douche and trying to leech off of the personality of Brendon Frasier in order to gain some false sense of popularity, and PAULY FUCKING SHORE of all people is the moral counterpoint, teh one reminding us throughout the film that Sean Astin is being a douche and that everything he's trying to achieve is irrelevant bullshit. Brendon Frasier performs admirably in this film, showing that he's capable of physical comedy, and even manages to achieve pathos while performing lines that are mostly monosyllabic.

Also, the "culture clash" segment of the film is golden. While the set up for this, when Brendon Frasier steals a car and drives around the city inspired by the classic 3D arcade game Rad Racer, is very much ripped off from the movie Twins (where he pops the car up on two wheels, yeah, most definitely); its still a great setup for the next scene, where the assembled company goes to the fucking NORTENO BAR, Pauly Shore makes buddies with three pachucos, and Brendon Frasier disarms a potential conflict by speaking in broken spanish! As a matter of fact, Brendon Frasiers character relies on diplomacy primarily throughout the film, which is pretty fucking impressive for a neanderthal.

Anyway, I think you might be able to see what I'm getting at here. Give this movie a second chance. Stoney is easily the crustiest vato I have ever witnessed. So dont harsh his gig.Buddy.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 18, 2009, 01:01:27 am


The Sci-fi version is closer to the book, but is a constant wave of climax/anti-climax that gets really really old after a while. The cast is nowhere near as good, and the special effects are ok, but still that cheesy made-for-tv cgi that still wasnt that great at the time. On the plus side, it does cover children of dune, which is cool. Makes it all the way up to the part where Leto II becomes that weird sand god thing, which truthfully, is about where you should stop reading the books. God Emperor of Dune was crap. 400 pages of the SAME FUCKING CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, not to mention overt homosexual overtones between Leto II and the various Duncans. I mean, it would be hilarious to set that book in an office, where Leto II is just the gross morbidly obese boss that CONSTANTLY sexually harasses the same underling.


I disagree. I found God emperor to be the strongest of dune books because of its focus on the political intrigue rather then sci fi. I didn't see you're overt homsexual overtones, I saw him trying to get duncan to be subservient to his women through sex as Duncans flaw was supposed to be a glad eye for women.
If you had kept with the series the control of males through sexuality is actually a huge part and it was already an established bene gesserit thing to do.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 18, 2009, 08:29:49 am


The Sci-fi version is closer to the book, but is a constant wave of climax/anti-climax that gets really really old after a while. The cast is nowhere near as good, and the special effects are ok, but still that cheesy made-for-tv cgi that still wasnt that great at the time. On the plus side, it does cover children of dune, which is cool. Makes it all the way up to the part where Leto II becomes that weird sand god thing, which truthfully, is about where you should stop reading the books. God Emperor of Dune was crap. 400 pages of the SAME FUCKING CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, not to mention overt homosexual overtones between Leto II and the various Duncans. I mean, it would be hilarious to set that book in an office, where Leto II is just the gross morbidly obese boss that CONSTANTLY sexually harasses the same underling.


I disagree. I found God emperor to be the strongest of dune books because of its focus on the political intrigue rather then sci fi. I didn't see you're overt homsexual overtones, I saw him trying to get duncan to be subservient to his women through sex as Duncans flaw was supposed to be a glad eye for women.
If you had kept with the series the control of males through sexuality is actually a huge part and it was already an established bene gesserit thing to do.

The focus on homosexual overtones might not be too valid, really just me trying to make fun of  the book, however I do feel that it is the same conversation for the whole book.

(but, having read the book, you dont think Paul II wasnt gay for Duncan. SRSLY?)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 18, 2009, 11:38:19 pm
No, if anything the pomp was shown to fall apart when confronted with actual attraction to a person with Hwi. His very small capacity to love was shown as the last shred of his humanity, sexuality was long since lost.
I mean I suppose it could be looked at that way, he has the memories of all his female geniality but I just don't see what you are describing, I saw all the duncan Leto conversations as either self important and condescending, or sadistic and manipulative... maybe these are characteristics you associate with sexuality, I'm not one to judge.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 06:47:23 am
I'm not one to judge.

Of course not. Anyway this is my least favorite dune book, and apparently your favorite, I doubt we'll reach anykind of consensus.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Corvidia on October 19, 2009, 06:59:15 am
7
Boondock Saints
The Crow
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist!
Kung Fu Hustle (because who doesn't enjoy an axe dance?)
Tropic Thunder
Zodiac
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
American Gangster
District 9
The Incredible Hulk (the most recent one)
The Three Lives of Thomasina (my favorite movie as a kid)

Aaaand there's more but I can't think of them atm.

...and was kind of disappointed. Though I always have a problem with watching movies intended for a younger audience. I tend to judge them based on the same standards I would judge a movie intended for a more "sophisticated(?)" audience, it's a bad habit.
I tend to judge them based on the book itself. It's why I never went to see The Dark is Rising even though it was one of my very favorite books EVER as a kid. They cast a damned American kid for the main character. He's BRITISH. KEEP HIM THAT WAY.
Also, it's why I was unhappy with Book 3 in the Harry Potter series. Liked the most recent one, though. Did a better job of setting up Harry/Ginny than Rowling did.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 05:44:19 pm
I feel like doing a couple more reviews, lets move down the list.

Eraserhead
Shit, where do I even start with this one. Anway, this is one of those classic art film. Those people who expect something easy to interpret or follow from this film will be completely lost, and the atmosphere throughout the entire film is that of total oppression, dread, and simply being ill at ease. I think that one of the most amazing things about this film is that it god made at all, this was his first major film, and he made it with a 10,000 dollar grant from the AFI (this was not sufficient, so private donations and odd jobs were necessary as well.) It took six years to make, but I believe this is including a two-three year hiatus (because the movie was shot sequentially, there is a segment where henry is about to open a door, and then the scene following this is filmed a year later).

I feel that its important to note the attention to detail on the part of Lynch. Every single aspect of every shot, most notably the sound (lynch is the head sound editor for every one of his films), is slaved over by Lynch. You can tell by watching this, that he micromanaged everything. Being that he had total creative freedom with this film, he was probably setting himself up for the heartbreak he would suffer over Dune. While his next movie after this one is Elephant Man, it uses a lot of similar elements to build its ethos.

This movie is visually stunning, and sucks me into a whirlpool every time I see it. Its also one of the only movies that my girlfriend will refuse to watch under any circumstances, ever. Which, if you were still interested in this after I said 'Art Film' you're probably ok. There is a lot of material about this movie as well, as Lynch has talked about it in frequent interviews, and even written about it in his book. The Wikipedia article on this movie isnt that bad, either.

Another thing I like, is the DVD menu. Pretty much all of the David Lynchs' DVD's contain long interviews about the films, these are meant to substitute for commentary tracks, as Lynch doesnt want anythign interfering with the ambience of the movie. Seriously, the guy wont even allow chapter titles and breaks in his films, as they break the continuity, so if you just want to skip to a particular part of the film... you either have to just watch most of the movie in fast forward, or just watch the whole fucking movie. I kind of like Lynch for his idiosyncrasies, but a lot of people despise them. Lynch IS pretty pretentious, but its because he approaches films as art, rather than purely entertainment. I appreciate that the film can have that much meaning for the director, but I'm sure a lot of people would be more happy watching GI JOE.

Also:
David Lynch vs Iphone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0)
This is a short clip from the interview track on Inland Empire. Just an example of one of David Lynchs' many idiosyncrasies.
response to lynch vs iphone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJUDYwrGdY&feature=related)
a response, obviously made by someone familiar with lynch. anyway, I was laughing.
Also, I feel that Lynch would make an excellent Riddler for a Batman film, although the chance of that happening is virtually nil.

Battles Without Honour or Humanity
Jingi Naki Tatakai
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jinginakitatakai.jpg)

Most people are familiar with the director, Kinji Fukasaku, for the more recent film Battle Royal (not the craptastic sequel that he died during filming, and was finished by his son). Some people may even remember that he was the director for the japanese segment of Tora! Tora! Tora!. He also directed a whole fucking slew of yakuza films in the seventies, although this one is in my opinion easily the best.

This is the first in a series of five movies following the development of the yakuza, starting with the american occupation of japan post world war two. Most of the reviews of the series focus on one element of these films, the lack of jingi (translated in the films title as Honor & Humanity) amongst post war yakuza. This is accurate enough, although its worth noting that the main character is a counterpoint to this, representing (at least in the first film) the concept of Giri (I can only think to describe this as a sense of duty or obligation to ones boss). So, to start, the movie has a driving concept... this is good. The true value in the movie, however, is just how fucking gangster everything is... seriously, from Toshiaki Tsushimas fucking AWESOME soundtrack, down to what is possibly one of the most epicly gangster endings of all time (up there with scarface, easily). Bunta Sugawara is just a fucking bad-ass though this whole movie, somehow he manages to preserve this even though he's just continually being ruthlessly shat on throughout the entire series. I cant really talk about this too much without giving anything away, but its definately worth a watch.

Fukasakus other yakuza movies of the period are ok, but they tend to focus specifically on characters who have absolutely no redeeming value to society, villians who do nothing but draw out the contempt of the audience towards everything they do. I dont think this is a bad format for a film (I'm looking forward to talking about Bad Lieutenant), but of Fukasakus yakuza films Battles Without Honor and Humanity is really the only one that creates any sympathy for the main character, and it does this well.

Oh, a note on the title, some people may have noticed that its the same as a popular song on the Kill Bill soundtrack. It is very likely that this is intentional on the part of Tomoyasu Hotei, as the films were extremely iconic in japan. I've even heard story (from an exchange student) that one of the reasons they were so popular, and I'm not sure if this can be confirmed/disconfirmed, is that the yakuza were happy to see themselves being portrayed in cinema (in any context) so they would actually go around forcing people to see them (IE buy these tickets from me or I'll kick your ass). Toshiaki Tsushima did work on the Kill Bill soundtrack as well, since obviously, Tarantino is a huge asian cinema nerd.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/zombiezombiezombie/buntasugawara.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/zombiezombiezombie/a20Battles20Without20Honor20and20Hu.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 06:06:41 pm
Finally watched "Into the Wild."   SPOILER ALERT















Compelling notion of a stubborn dipshit who died too young.  Cool story, interesting how he was epic fail at killing and eating huge game, but in the end so wasteful the way he died.  If he'd just taken someone with him, he'd probably have survived better once he got to Alaska.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 06:13:42 pm
Quote from: Z
Also:
David Lynch vs Iphone
This is a short clip from the interview track on Inland Empire. Just an example of one of David Lynchs' many idiosyncrasies.
response to lynch vs iphone
a response, obviously made by someone familiar with lynch. anyway, I was laughing.
 

That was pretty fucking awesome.  And now I need to go and rent "Lost Highway" goddammit all to hell and back!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 06:20:07 pm
Quote from: Z
Also:
David Lynch vs Iphone
This is a short clip from the interview track on Inland Empire. Just an example of one of David Lynchs' many idiosyncrasies.
response to lynch vs iphone
a response, obviously made by someone familiar with lynch. anyway, I was laughing.
 

That was pretty fucking awesome.  And now I need to go and rent "Lost Highway" goddammit all to hell and back!

I need to get Twin Peaks back, I lent the entire series to a coworker of my girlfriend... and he's taking his sweet time with it. I mean, I know it gets pretty bad for the first part of season two, but the end is worth it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 06:42:20 pm
Quote from: Z
Also:
David Lynch vs Iphone
This is a short clip from the interview track on Inland Empire. Just an example of one of David Lynchs' many idiosyncrasies.
response to lynch vs iphone
a response, obviously made by someone familiar with lynch. anyway, I was laughing.
 

That was pretty fucking awesome.  And now I need to go and rent "Lost Highway" goddammit all to hell and back!

I need to get Twin Peaks back, I lent the entire series to a coworker of my girlfriend... and he's taking his sweet time with it. I mean, I know it gets pretty bad for the first part of season two, but the end is worth it.

I has it.  And I had this TP fetish last year where I not only recorded epis off the Chill channel but also watched the DVDs...and the movie is permanently on my TiVo.  I refuse to erase it.  It's my default movie for some reason.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 19, 2009, 07:02:50 pm
:mittens: to Z3 for these reviews. Well thought out, well articulated.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 19, 2009, 07:11:12 pm
from the Eraserhead wikipedia entry:

Quote
George Lucas was a fan of the film and, after seeing it, wanted to hire Lynch to direct Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi. Lynch declined, fearing it would be more of his own vision rather than Lucas'.[13][14] The directorial duties eventually went to Richard Marquand.

 :aaa:

can you imagine Return of the Jedi directed by Lynch? that would have been very interesting
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 07:19:13 pm
from the Eraserhead wikipedia entry:

Quote
George Lucas was a fan of the film and, after seeing it, wanted to hire Lynch to direct Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi. Lynch declined, fearing it would be more of his own vision rather than Lucas'.[13][14] The directorial duties eventually went to Richard Marquand.

 :aaa:

can you imagine Return of the Jedi directed by Lynch? that would have been very interesting

I admit, this is difficult for me to imagine. I'm having a difficult time figuring out what Lucas was thinking, I mean Eraserhead is very fucking impressive from a technical aspect so its obvious to anybody in film that Lynch has some serious talent, its also pretty fucking far from Star Wars in terms of its thematic elements. Lynch would have made a hilarious Palpatine though. I laugh just thinking about him saying "DARK SIDE" in his somewhat nasal loud-ass voice.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 07:54:50 pm
Fear and Loathing
Dark City
City of Lost Children
Fight club
Anything by Guy Richie
The Godfather (ONLY the FIRST one)
ANYTHING by Kurosawa.
Bulldada flicks (Old Godzilla, Gammorah, Breakin' II Electric Boogaloo, etc)

Everything else is garbage.  Everything.  We should drop a nuke on Hollywood, or feed them all to wild boars.

That is all.  There is no debate on this subject.

[/Roger Prime]
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:02:53 pm
Fear and Loathing
Dark City
City of Lost Children
Fight club
Anything by Guy Richie
The Godfather (ONLY the FIRST one)
ANYTHING by Kurosawa.
Bulldada flicks (Old Godzilla, Gammorah, Breakin' II Electric Boogaloo, etc)

Everything else is garbage.  Everything.  We should drop a nuke on Hollywood, or feed them all to wild boars.

That is all.  There is no debate on this subject.

[/Roger Prime]

Can we ignore "Swept Away"?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:06:34 pm
Fear and Loathing
Dark City
City of Lost Children
Fight club
Anything by Guy Richie
The Godfather (ONLY the FIRST one)
ANYTHING by Kurosawa.
Bulldada flicks (Old Godzilla, Gammorah, Breakin' II Electric Boogaloo, etc)

Everything else is garbage.  Everything.  We should drop a nuke on Hollywood, or feed them all to wild boars.

That is all.  There is no debate on this subject.

[/Roger Prime]

Can we ignore "Swept Away"?

Yes.  And that Gone With The Wind shit, too.

Orson Wells is cool, though.  Almost forgot Citizen Kane.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:06:50 pm
But that's it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:16:07 pm
Petition to add John Waters and Jim Jarmusch, if'n you please, sir.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:28:53 pm
Petition to add John Waters and Jim Jarmusch, if'n you please, sir.

Sorry, never heard of them.  They go into the hopper with everyone else.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:31:25 pm
:crankey:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:32:49 pm
There are some forms of cultural illiteracy that I am comfortable with.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:36:31 pm
Really, you'll just let Pecker, Serial Mom, Female Trouble, Cecil B Demented, Crybaby, Coffee and Cigarettes, Broken Flowers, Dead Man, Ghost Dog, and Stranger Than Paradise just fall into the trash bin?


For shame.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 08:44:44 pm
Really, you'll just let Pecker, Serial Mom, Female Trouble, Cecil B Demented, Crybaby, Coffee and Cigarettes, Broken Flowers, Dead Man, Ghost Dog, and Stranger Than Paradise just fall into the trash bin?


For shame.

Yes.

TGRR,
Has no shame.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:45:27 pm
Then I reiterate:  :crankey:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 08:48:45 pm
Really, you'll just let Pecker, Serial Mom, Female Trouble, Cecil B Demented, Crybaby, Coffee and Cigarettes, Broken Flowers, Dead Man, Ghost Dog, and Stranger Than Paradise just fall into the trash bin?


For shame.

I'll add Ghost Dog Way of the Samurai and Dead Man to the end of my list.
Not a huge Waters fan, though. (except I really like the message of Cecil B. Demented, but I'd hardly call it one of the best films ever.)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 19, 2009, 08:54:54 pm
That's because you can't see true genius when it teabags you.


[/Roger Prime]
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 08:56:23 pm
That's because you can't see true genius when it teabags you.


[/Roger Prime]

Honestly, I still havent seen most of his movies. I'm sure I will, and when I do, I'll get back to you on this.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 19, 2009, 09:40:59 pm
ghost dog is the movie where this one guy (minor role) is building a huge ship on his rooftop for no apparent reason at all, right?

i remember noticing that when watching it for the 2nd time.

great movie :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 19, 2009, 09:42:07 pm
ghost dog is the movie where this one guy (minor role) is building a huge ship on his rooftop for no apparent reason at all, right?

i remember noticing that when watching it for the 2nd time.

great movie :)

yeah, thats the one. I really wish I could find a book-on-tape of Forest Whitaker reading the Haga-Kure
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 19, 2009, 10:12:19 pm
Yeesh. I figured this thread would have died out. So, a few more.

The Boy in the Striped Pajamas.
And to get you out of the emotional murk that it might put you in:
The Royal Tennenbaums.

Also, A few suggestions from others that I want to second.

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Kung-Fu Hustle

Though, this movies precursor, Shaolin Soccer, was much better, IMO

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Tropic Thunder
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12 Monkeys
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Pans Labyrinth
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City of God

There was a version of this that also came with a documentary on the real life situation that inspired the movie, and it was a really cool documentary.

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Cecil B. Demented
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Coffee and Cigarettes

Any movie with Bill Murray, Tom Waits and Wu Tang clan members RZA and GZA is pure fucking win.

Z³-Thanks for bringing the meat  :thumb:


Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 20, 2009, 01:21:25 am
I'd just like to say that I really like the first seven minutes of Kung Fu hustle... but I don't care for that movie.
... but hey, I can just watch the first seven minutes of it on youtube.
Kung Fu Hustle (the abridged version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw85hFMmasM&feature=related)

Oh, and for City of God, I have that version of the film... dont worry, I'll be getting to it eventually.

I'm trying to go back and rewatch these movies as I review them, believe it or not I've actually had notes on the Encino Man review laying around for about a month. There are a few on my list that might take some work for me to get a hold of, and other movies that I'm sure I'm forgetting that I can add to the list. Although, I'm going to try to crank out at least two a night for the next couple weeks, assuming I'm not otherwise occupied.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 20, 2009, 01:38:30 am
 :lulz: @ the comment:

"Think Kill Bill meets Looney Toons"
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 20, 2009, 01:08:53 pm
I also wanted to mention...

If you want to spend an evening looking deep into the gaping asshole that is humanity, you should watch Lars Von Trier's "People Suck" trilogy: Breaking the Waves, Dancer In The Dark, and Dogville.

Please unload all firearms before watching.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Richter on October 20, 2009, 01:40:35 pm
The Wind and the Lion
13th Warriror
Sword of the Stranger
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Rob Roy
Alone in the Wilderness  (Yeah, documentary, fuck off.)

Rest of my favorites have already been mentioned.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Kai on October 20, 2009, 01:54:05 pm
The Wind and the Lion
13th Warriror
Sword of the Stranger
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Rob Roy
Alone in the Wilderness  (Yeah, documentary, fuck off.)

Rest of my favorites have already been mentioned.


Italicized are two of my favorites.

Other than Jurassic Park, I don't really know of any others.  The only movie I own is Pulp Fiction, but I'm not sure I'd consider that a favorite.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 20, 2009, 03:26:26 pm
I'll pick out some of my favorites that haven't been mentioned yet.

Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf? Brilliant dialog, vicious film, don't look up spoilers.
Suddenly, Last summer Liz Taylor is great, but Katherine Hepburn is fantastic, kind of homophobic film but a tragic story nonetheless.
El topo alejandro jodorowsky makes really bizarre films but this one is less of an assault then The holy mountain and its my favorite of his.

Aeon flux the series This last one is a series but its definitely worth a look, it uses a thin veil of sci-fi to drive a story which is effectively nothing more then an exploration of a love/hate relationship between the two main characters.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 20, 2009, 09:19:18 pm


Aeon flux the series This last one is a series but its definitely worth a look, it uses a thin veil of sci-fi to drive a story which is effectively nothing more then an exploration of a love/hate relationship between the two main characters.

I really liked Aeon Flux when it was an animated short on Liquid Telivision.
I guess I felt that It lost something when it had dialogue.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 20, 2009, 09:30:16 pm


Aeon flux the series This last one is a series but its definitely worth a look, it uses a thin veil of sci-fi to drive a story which is effectively nothing more then an exploration of a love/hate relationship between the two main characters.

I really liked Aeon Flux when it was an animated short on Liquid Telivision.
I guess I felt that It lost something when it had dialogue.
It changed its feel a lot. I started with the episodes with dialog, Some of them are great.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 20, 2009, 11:03:22 pm
I also wanted to mention...

If you want to spend an evening looking deep into the gaping asshole that is humanity, you should watch Lars Von Trier's "People Suck" trilogy: Breaking the Waves, Dancer In The Dark, and Dogville.

Please unload all firearms before watching.

I've seen the first two, not the third.
Probably a good way to ease yourself into some serious malaise with Ingmar Bergman.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2009, 11:28:28 pm
I hate this whole thread so much. Irrationally. There is no real reason for me to hate it, but I do. I mostly just hate the title. It's not even a PUN. It's just a horrifically stupid play on words. I HATE IT.

THREAD, YOU ARE THE RECEPTACLE OF ALL OF TODAY'S HATE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2009, 11:32:46 pm
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 20, 2009, 11:35:57 pm
wat
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 20, 2009, 11:36:20 pm
The title is sort of annoying, I guess.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 11:54:45 pm
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

This.

Incidentally, this is how I feel about monkeys.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 20, 2009, 11:55:40 pm
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

I will singlehandedly keep this thread alive just to spite you for your irrational ability to ignore something mildly annoying.
You can spare yourself by quitting all internets.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2009, 11:57:41 pm
wat

The title is sort of annoying, I guess.

:potd:

Between both those posts, you made me laugh ridiculously hard. God, I need to get back to work. What am I doing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 20, 2009, 11:58:04 pm
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

I will singlehandedly keep this thread alive just to spite you for your irrational ability to ignore something mildly annoying.
You can spare yourself by quitting all internets.

I HATE YOUR SWEATER
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 20, 2009, 11:59:02 pm
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

I will singlehandedly keep this thread alive just to spite you for your irrational ability to ignore something mildly annoying.
You can spare yourself by quitting all internets.

I will kill you AND this thread.

Wait, scratch that, that sounds suspiciously like a threat.

I WILL KILL YOUR ENTIRE CITY, AND PISS ON THE ASHES.

There.  Now that sounds exactly like a threat.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 21, 2009, 01:01:56 am
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

bump
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 21, 2009, 01:05:25 am
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

bump

 :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 21, 2009, 01:06:18 am
I like film threads, even ones as crappy as this.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 21, 2009, 01:13:50 am
Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

I will singlehandedly keep this thread alive just to spite you for your irrational ability to ignore something mildly annoying.
You can spare yourself by quitting all internets.

I will kill you AND this thread.

Wait, scratch that, that sounds suspiciously like a threat.

I WILL KILL YOUR ENTIRE CITY, AND PISS ON THE ASHES.

There.  Now that sounds exactly like a threat.

You'll kill my city?
Be my guest.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 21, 2009, 01:15:05 am
I like film threads, even ones as crappy as this.


I'll probably just create a new thread for talking about film, and we can let this one die.
Maybe, when I feel like it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 21, 2009, 01:24:52 am
Ohmymotherfuckinggod. Just watched this in my film as lit. class.

Bob Roberts

So Frigging Awesome.

Do you ever just have a kneejerk hatred of something for no real reason? Like a color, or a dog, or a neighbor's sweater? Because that is how I feel about this thread. I was OK with it for a day or two, because I assumed it would die. Now I can see that it will never die, and I will have to look at it every time I log on here, forever, probably for the rest of my life or until civilization ends or the internet becomes obsolete.

This thread is ruining my life. I am going into my studio and using new glass that I got today and all of my beads are going to turn out like this thread.

Thread, I hate you. You are my nemesis. Until you die, I will do nothing with my life but rage, rage and plot for your downfall. I will pray for a database corruption that will erase your very existence.


DIE DIE DIE.

I cannot lie, this made me laugh my ass off. I'd offer an apology, but I think the situations too funny for it to be a sincere one. If it's any consolation at all, I thought it would die, too.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 01:29:46 am
Speakng of which, for some reason the combination fo letters "N. I. G. E. L." makes me break out in hives, shit myself, and strangle kittens. I really wish I could never read that word agan, but there you go...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 21, 2009, 01:31:28 am
I like film threads, even ones as crappy as this.


Heeeeeee!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 21, 2009, 01:32:30 am
You are all making me laugh really hard.

But I still hate this thread.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 21, 2009, 01:52:06 am
Just to aid Z³ in bringing some meat, this is a copy of a critique and analysis of the photographic elements and symbolism of the Jet-Li movie Hero that I did for class for you to read, ignore or what have you.

   For my first critique I chose the movie Hero. I have watched this movie before and I was surprised at how much more I got out of it the second time through. This is the type of movie where just about anyone could say  that color was a huge representational aspect of the movie, however, what and to what degree it was representational of, I feel, would be vastly overlooked by the average audience.
   From the opening scene it was clear that almost every shot in this movie was done for more specific of a purpose than simple utility. There was almost always a hidden or deeper meaning. The first scene, in which the movies protagonist, Nameless, entered the palace of the emperor, established a huge distance between the emperor and the general citizenship of his domain. Nameless had to traverse through many doors and along narrow passages on his way to see the emperor, and even after traveling all that distance, the palace courtyard itself was huge, creating even more distance between the emperor and his people. This theme carried all the way into the emperor’s chambers, even when they were in the same room there was a distance between him and Nameless. This clearly illustrated the emperor’s paranoia.
   Although, there were aspects of this scene that indicated other characteristics of the emperor. For instance, there was a long shot in the courtyard that clearly was indicative of the order the emperor so much desired. Everything was lined up, nice and neat, from the throngs of priests lining the walk way to the stone stairs making countless horizontal lines. These things framed up Nameless; surrounding him in the order he fought so hard against. This theme of order was also visible in the emperor’s bare chambers with the straight upright pillars. Every line was near perfectly vertical or horizontal; orderly to the highest extent.
   The colors in the palace, as well as the emperor’s armor, told even more about the emperor, before he even had a chance to speak. Shades of black and grey used throughout the palace and in the emperor’s armor were subdued but imposing, showing a cold, calculated intelligence. It wasn’t all cold, though. The emperor’s armor was gilded in small golden highlights, showing his true compassionate nature.  
   In the first fight scene, where Sky faced up against a small band of the emperor’s men and then Nameless posing as one of the emperor’s men, it seemed as if the color scheme from the palace was carried into the chess house by the soldiers. There were many similar colors and verticals, almost as if the soldiers were physically imposing the emperor’s order on the scene itself as they tried to apprehend the assassin Sky.
   There were a few things that I found interesting about this scene, for instance: Sky wore earthly colors, greens and browns, which, at first, I thought to be a little contradictory in accordance with his name. That is, until I noticed his weapon; silver as a clear sky. I feel that this was done purposely to develop the character without the need for extended back-story. He, as indicated by his clothing (and confirmed in dialogue later in the film), is a down to earth, logical thinker; grounded in reality. It is only in combat, after his spear has been revealed, that his heavenly skills come to light. I also found the use of angles in this scene as a way to further illustrate the action. Nameless advances, as does the camera. The two square off, as does the camera. They circle one another, as does the camera, etc., all this highlighting and intensifying the action.
   The black and white sequence during this scene was interesting as well, showing the thought process behind each warrior before battle even began, mirroring the style of thought that should be present in a chess house, contemplatively looking as many moves in advance as they could. The battle itself only lasted seconds, true masters of chess. And being true masters of chess, neither warrior disturbed a single chess piece throughout the melee, which represents respect for the art of the game Go (American name for Ko: Chinese Chess, a game based on military strategy and territory).  There was so much present in this scene that it makes it difficult to accurately cover it all, from their only witness, the blind musician, to the contrast of the soft, malleable rain-drops dissipating on cold, hard steel. Each cut in this movie could support its own critique.
   The scene at the calligraphy school was very powerful, with bold reds representing power and passion, both of which were present, the former being more indicative of knowledge and wisdom as power, as opposed to sheer physical might.
   In this scene the character Flying Snow was introduced. A fitting name indeed, as she was beautiful but cold; serene but capable of destruction. Her pale skin and the muted colors of her robes are further visual support for her soft but frigid character.  
   The actions of Broken Sword during the hail of arrows showed his unending patience and calm as an extension of the wisdom he had learned through calligraphy. The grey/black arrows fired by the grey troops, shown in a long shot were oppressive clouds, each arrow a piece of the linear order that the emperor desired to impose. The peaceful pacifism of the students during battle shows that, while you may be able to impose on the body, the power of the mind is unassailable. The pot of red ink is the blood of wisdom that cannot be spilled by weapons.
   After the rain of arrows, I was treated to the only oblique angles in the movie. They were present as Broken Sword and Flying Snow betrayed one another. As their relationship loses stability the shot lost stability, sending everything around them, their world, off balance.
   The fight scene between Flying Snow and the young Moon was a beautiful scene. I noticed here the high-key lighting, which represented the intensity of the two women, both in love with the same man, engaged in an emotionally charged bout.  Moon struggles in this battle, slicing haphazardly at the untouchable leaves, in the foolhardiness of youth. Leaves (and snow) are so light and airy that it is impossible to hit them. How foolish the youth to think they could be attacked, and how hard-headed to keep up in futile actions. Snow indirectly and intangibly over came an opponent who was rigid and stubborn. The brash young Moon is no match for her cold, calculated opponent. The yellow leaves of innocence change to a deep blood red as Moon dies, showing that she had only came to wisdom (power) only in death.
   As the emperor begins to unravel the lies of Nameless, the film changes to shades of blue. While this scene is not the outright truth, the blue represents the insight of a sage in the emperor’s deduction. Cool, logical calculations had lead to his take on the events. At the beginning of this interpretation of events, the characters are diffused by a bamboo curtain in a dream-like haze, showing that we haven’t quite come to the actual truth of the situation.
   In the duel against Flying Snow, Nameless hesitates as he realizes that, perhaps, he may be wrong. The words of Broken Sword stick with him giving him doubt. In the end, Broken Sword must confront Nameless (who’s one-time heroism has faded into blacks and grays, he is beginning to resemble even more what he wishes to destroy) and they do so over a beautiful lake. The pagoda where the body of Flying Snow is placed is the only thing covered in green mosses and vines, representing new life in death. This scene exemplifies the subtleties of battle. Force is not favored; smoothness of motion and the amorphous qualities of water are deemed most important in battle. The water is barely affected by the lightness of each action. More so, the water is mirrored in the eyes of Flying Snow as tears, which is all that battle begets. In the end, Nameless chooses to walk away, perhaps a further indication of his growing doubt in his own plans.
   The green scene, in which the story of Broken Sword and Flying Snow’s first failed attempt on the emperor’s life, is chronologically the first scene of the story, thus the green scheme, showing their once youthful and naïve personalities, including even that of the emperor. The time slows as the flowing drapes fall to the ground as Broken Sword realizes the truth of the situation: the death of the emperor will not make peace. He learns this in one second that seems to slow to a near stop, showing the quickness of thought.
   In the end, real truth, as opposed to the assumed truth of the emperor’s deductions, is represented with white, as real truth is pure and not altered to suit the tastes of the individual. Each rebel character in this story is destroyed by what they love; the love of ones land, the love of another, and the love of truth. They gave everything they had for the future, and where Nameless once stood, there were no arrows, signifying peace brought on by his sacrifice.
   Upon viewing this movie a second time, I realized one thing that I had vastly overlooked; the character of Moon. My initial thoughts of this character during my first viewing were thoughts of her being tacked on and unnecessary. How wrong was I? After a second, more in depth analysis, I came to realize that, in many ways, this movie was about and circled around her.
   Moon, in this film, represents youth. This is indicated in many ways through out the film. For instance, on the pommel of her sword was a circular ring; an empty circle that represented the new moon, the first phase in the moons cycles- the youngest form, empty and waiting to be filled with experience and knowledge. Her youthfulness was highlighted further in the calligraphy scene by the pink, silk sheets that enveloped her; soft, radiant and still naïve in her girlish fantasies and outlook on relationships. And furthermore it was emphasized in the fight scene between her and Flying Snow, which I had indicated earlier on.
   Moon, representing the youth, therefore represents the future. It is for her that every character gave their life for, so that the future generations may see peace in their land. Therefore, being the end result and motivation, I feel that it could be said that this was her story as much as it was Nameless’s.
   All in all, this film is a shining example of most photographic elements and the extent at which they can be implemented. While the outwardly over-implemented color schemes seem initially patronizing, they each have a much fuller and deeper purpose than what is easily ascertained by the viewer, which makes this film graspable by the easy going film fan as well as capable of maintaining the interest of the more astute observer. Simply put, it can be enjoyed for fun as well as its intellectual value.
   As far as whether or not this will be deemed a classic in the future, that is difficult to say. While I hope that this film will be enjoyed generations from now as I myself had enjoyed it, the trends in Hollywood and their effect on the American audiences may destroy all chances, having such a beautiful film overlooked in favor of simplistic sex, explosions, and candy-coated CGI visuals. One can only wait and see as the tastes of the American public either regress or advance. In my eyes, however, this film may very well preserve its importance in twenty years in classes such as this and beyond to future audiences that have learned to avoid the mere placation present in modern Hollywood films.  




Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 03:07:23 am
tl;fu





















Too long; fuck you
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 21, 2009, 10:48:30 pm
STOP RUINING MY LIFE WITH THIS THREAD

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, MAKE IT GO AWAY

I CAN'T EVEN THINK WITH THIS THREAD AROUND

IT FOGS MY MIND WITH HATE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 12:14:08 am
STOP RUINING MY LIFE WITH THIS THREAD

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, MAKE IT GO AWAY

I CAN'T EVEN THINK WITH THIS THREAD AROUND

IT FOGS MY MIND WITH HATE.

I don't think this thread is your problem.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 22, 2009, 12:25:46 am
STOP RUINING MY LIFE WITH THIS THREAD

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, MAKE IT GO AWAY

I CAN'T EVEN THINK WITH THIS THREAD AROUND

IT FOGS MY MIND WITH HATE.

I don't think this thread is your problem.
Lest start discussing David lynch's films in nigels love life thread.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 12:31:08 am
STOP RUINING MY LIFE WITH THIS THREAD

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, MAKE IT GO AWAY

I CAN'T EVEN THINK WITH THIS THREAD AROUND

IT FOGS MY MIND WITH HATE.

I don't think this thread is your problem.
Lest start discussing David lynch's films in nigels love life thread.

 :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 12:32:22 am
Sirs, I present to you this perfectly lovely pre-existing film thread that is not ruining my life and destroying my peace of mind and productivity:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 22, 2009, 12:38:15 am
Sirs, I present to you this perfectly lovely pre-existing film thread that is not ruining my life and destroying my peace of mind and productivity:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0

That thread is full of trolls.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2009, 12:41:20 am
chilllllllllllllllllllll outttttttttttttt
                 /
(http://thecarter.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/freeze.jpg)

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/APPLETALKBTCHES.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 12:52:02 am
Sirs, I present to you this perfectly lovely pre-existing film thread that is not ruining my life and destroying my peace of mind and productivity:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0

That thread is full of trolls.

I do not have a clever retort for that.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 12:52:32 am
CRAMULUS I CANNOT CHILL OUT

LOOK AT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD IT IS DESTROYING ME.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 22, 2009, 12:53:55 am
I was ignoring this thread but then I read Nigel's replies and I :lulz:'d

also I have to agree; the title is bringing bile into my brain
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 22, 2009, 01:00:09 am
CRAMULUS

YOU MUST CEASE AND DESIST YOUR ACTIONS AS A PEACEMAKER. THE CONFLICT IN THIS THREAD IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE

IT WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF ALL INANE ARGUMENTS TAKEN UP FOR THE SAKE OF WASTING TIME AND AMUSING ONESELF ON THIS FORUM FOR ALL TIME!

YOU MUST EITHER JOIN US, OR ELSE DEFY US. IN MATTERS THIS POINTLESS, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE, NO MIDDLE GROUND, NO QUARTER GIVEN OR ACCEPTED, UNTIL BOTH SIDES HAVE TESTED EACH OTHER IN BLOOD AND STEEL; SUCH IS THE WAY OF THE INTERNETS

JOIN US, AND KNOW THE GLORY OF THE RIGHTEOUS PATH THAT IS HATING THIS IRKSOME THREAD TITLE!




(okay I'll stop now)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 01:02:18 am
CRAMULUS

YOU MUST CEASE AND DESIST YOUR ACTIONS AS A PEACEMAKER. THE CONFLICT IN THIS THREAD IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE

IT WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF ALL INANE ARGUMENTS TAKEN UP FOR THE SAKE OF WASTING TIME AND AMUSING ONESELF ON THIS FORUM FOR ALL TIME!

YOU MUST EITHER JOIN US, OR ELSE DEFY US. IN MATTERS THIS POINTLESS, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE, NO MIDDLE GROUND, NO QUARTER GIVEN OR ACCEPTED, UNTIL BOTH SIDES HAVE TESTED EACH OTHER IN BLOOD AND STEEL; SUCH IS THE WAY OF THE INTERNETS

JOIN US, AND KNOW THE GLORY OF THE RIGHTEOUS PATH THAT IS HATING THIS IRKSOME THREAD TITLE!




(okay I'll stop now)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: FILM FLAM
Post by: Cramulus on October 22, 2009, 01:24:36 am
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Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 10:11:59 am
Sirs, I present to you this perfectly lovely pre-existing film thread that is not ruining my life and destroying my peace of mind and productivity:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0

oh no, I'd gladly defer to a thread at the bottom of the stack, the existence of which I was either unaware of or had forgotten about;
because I respect your right not to be offended by a fucking pun. Naturally, as one whom is offended by simple uninspired plays on words, I feel the need to fight back, by shitting all over other peoples attempts at contribution, rather than simply ignoring things which otherwise wouldnt have had any effect on me whatsoever. Yeah, that seems logical.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 10:26:10 am
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 10:27:25 am
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 22, 2009, 12:12:43 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.
That's a really funny reaction to have to a thread.
Thats a good enough reason to keep it bumped forever
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 05:21:43 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.
That's a really funny reaction to have to a thread.
Thats a good enough reason to keep it bumped forever

NOOOOOOOO!  :x :x :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 05:24:32 pm
This thread clubs baby harp seals.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 05:26:55 pm
This thread clubs baby harp seals.

...and rapes them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 05:29:54 pm
This thread clubs baby harp seals.

...and rapes them.

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER!  :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 05:32:35 pm
This thread clubs baby harp seals.

...and rapes them.

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER!  :x

It's really terrible.  :cry:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on October 22, 2009, 05:48:06 pm
CAN WE STICKY IT !!????!?!?!?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 05:52:19 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP

Aw, you're only saying that because I look Mexican.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 22, 2009, 07:07:39 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.
That's a really funny reaction to have to a thread.
Thats a good enough reason to keep it bumped forever
What he said.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 07:08:55 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP

Aw, you're only saying that because I look Mexican.

True.  Z3 gets all irritated with smudgy skin.  Please make an effort to be more White in the future.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 08:12:17 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP


Heyyyyyyyyy...you're a fucktard.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 09:47:38 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP


Heyyyyyyyyy...you're a fucktard.

Maybe, but it doesn't make much of a difference does it?
As long as we're all behaving like children, I should fit right in.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 09:48:29 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP

Aw, you're only saying that because I look Mexican.

True.  Z3 gets all irritated with smudgy skin.  Please make an effort to be more White in the future.  Thanks.

I don't get it, are you trying to imply racism?
This confuses the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 10:38:18 pm
I can't believe that you're trivializing the way this thread is destroying me to the very core of my humanity. :( I feel very devalued now.

implying that you began with value.
SNAP

Aw, you're only saying that because I look Mexican.

True.  Z3 gets all irritated with smudgy skin.  Please make an effort to be more White in the future.  Thanks.

I don't get it, are you trying to imply racism?
This confuses the hell out of me.

That would be a "yes".
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 22, 2009, 11:07:27 pm
Am I missing something, is "Film Flam" some kind of racial slur or something? Cause I assumed Nigel was just playing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 11:08:56 pm
Am I missing something, is "Film Flam" some kind of racial slur or something? Cause I assumed Nigel was just playing.

Back before his reappearance as Z3, Zurtok had a thing about Mexicans.  When Nigel changed her avatar to her pic, Z3 started senselessly attacking her.

The conclusion is obvious.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 22, 2009, 11:11:41 pm
I can't tell what just happened in this thread.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 11:12:28 pm
I can't tell what just happened in this thread.

That's because this is the worst thread on the interbutt.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 22, 2009, 11:38:40 pm
Am I missing something, is "Film Flam" some kind of racial slur or something? Cause I assumed Nigel was just playing.

Back before his reappearance as Z3, Zurtok had a thing about Mexicans.  When Nigel changed her avatar to her pic, Z3 started senselessly attacking her.

The conclusion is obvious.

Except that I'm not Zurtok.
To tell you the truth, my attacks on Nigel are simply because this thread was being shat on, and for a moment I felt like actually trying to contribute something. I mean, if you dont want to talk about movies or whatever thats fine, ignore the thread. I suppose my mistake was simply to respond in kind, which upset the pack mentality.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 22, 2009, 11:59:18 pm
Am I missing something, is "Film Flam" some kind of racial slur or something? Cause I assumed Nigel was just playing.

I WAS just playing, and having a grand old time laughing my ass off every time someone bumped this thread and I had another chance to ridiculously overreact about how it is DESTROYING MY SENSES AND MY LIVELIHOOD, MURDERING MY DOG, ABDUCTING MY CHILDREN, AND MAKING MY ELDERLY PARENTS INSANE, until Zurtok decided to take me seriously and be a dick. Hell, even Dimo was playing along. Or at least pretending not to notice. And it's his thread, not Zurtok's.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 12:01:08 am
Am I missing something, is "Film Flam" some kind of racial slur or something? Cause I assumed Nigel was just playing.

I WAS just playing, and having a grand old time laughing my ass off every time someone bumped this thread and I had another chance to ridiculously overreact about how it is DESTROYING MY SENSES AND MY LIVELIHOOD, MURDERING MY DOG, ABDUCTING MY CHILDREN, AND MAKING MY ELDERLY PARENTS INSANE, until Zurtok decided to take me seriously and be a dick. Hell, even Dimo was playing along. Or at least pretending not to notice. And it's his thread, not Zurtok's.


I'm not Zurtok.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 12:02:32 am
I came out in favor of this thread. And then I might have image-bombed it. So I'm not sure where I stand.

The threadjack is both annoying and hysterical.


or  :?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 12:03:01 am
I came out in favor of this thread. And then I might have image-bombed it. So I'm not sure where I stand.

The threadjack is both annoying and hysterical.


or  :?

It actually is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 23, 2009, 12:06:51 am
I'm not really sure what either side has done wrong here.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 23, 2009, 12:20:44 am
Sirs, I present to you this perfectly lovely pre-existing film thread that is not ruining my life and destroying my peace of mind and productivity:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=19283.0

oh no, I'd gladly defer to a thread at the bottom of the stack, the existence of which I was either unaware of or had forgotten about;
because I respect your right not to be offended by a fucking pun. Naturally, as one whom is offended by simple uninspired plays on words, I feel the need to fight back, by shitting all over other peoples attempts at contribution, rather than simply ignoring things which otherwise wouldnt have had any effect on me whatsoever. Yeah, that seems logical.

Oh.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 12:25:29 am
Speakng of which, for some reason the combination fo letters "N. I. G. E. L." makes me break out in hives, shit myself, and strangle kittens. I really wish I could never read that word agan, but there you go...

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on October 23, 2009, 01:08:23 am
nigel i can appreciate your unnatural and unexplainable hatred for this thread based on the title because i feel the exact same way when i see words (you know....THAT WORD...with the m and the e repeated)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2009, 01:16:47 am
nigel i can appreciate your unnatural and unexplainable hatred for this thread based on the title because i feel the exact same way when i see words (you know....THAT WORD...with the m and the e repeated)

Hahahaha, oh wow, this shit just got real
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 01:17:05 am
nigel i can appreciate your unnatural and unexplainable hatred for this thread based on the title because i feel the exact same way when i see words (you know....THAT WORD...with the m and the e repeated)

YESSSS! Like that. Only not with that word.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on October 23, 2009, 01:18:11 am
nigel i can appreciate your unnatural and unexplainable hatred for this thread based on the title because i feel the exact same way when i see words (you know....THAT WORD...with the m and the e repeated)

Hahahaha, oh wow, this shit just got real

 :argh!: HATRED DOESNT HAVE TO BE LOGICAL!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 01:20:59 am
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK IN DAYS BECAUSE OF THIS THREAD. MY CHILDREN WILL GO HUNGRY AND I GOT AN EYE INFECTION, BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS, AND SWINE FLU BECAUSE OF IT.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2009, 01:23:10 am
This thread is now about attacking the other annoying apple talk thread.
So we are to storm the Nigels stupid lovelife thread.
Any suggestions and plans of attack.

I think every response in that thread should cite Joyce and feature lengthy discussion, quotes and tenuous links to his works in response to every HE HAS TO GO/OH GOD DONT LET HIM GO post made within that thread.
Bonus Points if you have read Joyce when making those posts, I know I haven't.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 01:26:21 am
This thread is now about attacking the other annoying apple talk thread.
So we are to storm the Nigels stupid lovelife thread.
Any suggestions and plans of attack.

I think every response in that thread should cite Joyce and feature lengthy discussion, quotes and tenuous links to his works in response to every HE HAS TO GO/OH GOD DONT LET HIM GO post made within that thread.
Bonus Points if you have read Joyce when making those posts, I know I haven't.

Do you really want to draw additional attention to the one thread where I am trying to keep my horrible obsession ghettoized and out of everyone's way? Just a thought

Oh, but if you decide yes, pls to make it funny.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 01:26:47 am
This thread is now about attacking the other annoying apple talk thread.
So we are to storm the Nigels stupid lovelife thread.
Any suggestions and plans of attack.

I think every response in that thread should cite Joyce and feature lengthy discussion, quotes and tenuous links to his works in response to every HE HAS TO GO/OH GOD DONT LET HIM GO post made within that thread.
Bonus Points if you have read Joyce when making those posts, I know I haven't.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've been missing the point.
So, I'm not going back to that thread.
You're more than welcome to counterattack with intellectual douchebaggery, if you are so inclined, it would probably be pretty funny.
I'm going to hit the bar, let my batteries recharge, and find a better venue for my interest in topical film discussion.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 01:28:34 am
The Joyce thing sounds pretty entertaining, actually.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2009, 01:30:20 am
venue for my interest in topical film discussion.
Its a good venue when people aren't telling other people what to post, humerously or not its distracting.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2009, 01:31:39 am
The Joyce thing sounds pretty entertaining, actually.

It would either improve that thread or suffocate it. It cant do anything negative to it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 02:15:15 am
venue for my interest in topical film discussion.
Its a good venue when people aren't telling other people what to post, humerously or not its distracting.

I was kind of hoping the conversation would move back to the other movie thread.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 02:15:42 am
The Joyce thing sounds pretty entertaining, actually.

It would either improve that thread or suffocate it. It cant do anything negative to it.


True.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 03:07:21 am
Robocop was Mel Brooks finest work. Discuss.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 23, 2009, 03:33:00 am
Mel Brooks did Robocop?

Geez.  Tells you how much I know about the movies I grew up with!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 23, 2009, 03:58:32 am
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 04:01:02 am
Mel Brooks did Robocop?

Geez.  Tells you how much I know about the movies I grew up with!

No he didnt, but its a good movie none-the-less.

Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Nast on October 23, 2009, 04:05:30 am
Robocop was Mel Brooks finest work. Discuss.

I enjoyed the film maker's use of negative space and post-reductionist feminist symbolism in relation to the narrator's internal dialogue. Also, robots.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 23, 2009, 04:08:28 am
Mel Brooks did Robocop?

Geez.  Tells you how much I know about the movies I grew up with!

No he didnt, but its a good movie none-the-less.

Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 23, 2009, 05:29:35 am
Incidentally:


FILM FLAM MEME FLIM.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 05:30:53 am
that scene where they repeatedly shoot the cop with shotguns at point blank range?


hilarious!



mel brooks is a genius!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 23, 2009, 05:55:19 am
Incidentally:


FILM FLAM MEME FLIM.


 :walken:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 23, 2009, 07:32:04 am
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmations, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on October 23, 2009, 11:07:00 am
Who is Ann Rand?  Is she related to Raggedy Ann and Andy? 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 23, 2009, 11:26:23 am
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmations, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.

The fountain isn't miserable at all. I love that film. Sure the subject matter is death but its actually quite upbeat about it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 23, 2009, 12:29:37 pm
Incidentally:


FILM FLAM MEME FLIM.


In related news, I would like to state that I AM NOT ZURTOK EITHER

and I have a completely neutral stance regarding Mexicans, for I can't really recall ever having met one in my life.

except that this movie Desperado was in Mexico right? cause that movie was awesome. it's sequel however (with Johnny Depp) was not.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 23, 2009, 01:28:12 pm
However, the DVD commentary track has his recipe for Puerco Pibil, and it is fucking AWESOME. 

So good, you'll want to shoot the cook!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 23, 2009, 01:49:29 pm
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmations, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.

The fountain isn't miserable at all. I love that film. Sure the subject matter is death but its actually quite upbeat about it.
I have only seen Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler - if indeed he has created a film without pathologically seeking out and amplifying every emotionally traumatising moment possible - I still have no motivation to give him another chance.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 23, 2009, 02:22:01 pm
the Pistolero tune is pretty swote as well, though I have to admit I like the Juno Reactor version a lot more than the original :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 23, 2009, 03:53:03 pm
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmatians, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.

The fountain isn't miserable at all. I love that film. Sure the subject matter is death but its actually quite upbeat about it.
I have only seen Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler - if indeed he has created a film without pathologically seeking out and amplifying every emotionally traumatizing moment possible - I still have no motivation to give him another chance.

Umm, can't deal with a little emotion, or do just not like it when a movie makes you notice you have them? He's a great frikkin' director. And yes, the fountain was great (possibly my favorite by him). Furthermore, if he did Robo-Cop, you know where gonna get scary glimpses into his head. It'll be awesome.
Though, I suppose no one can really top Mel Brooks.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 23, 2009, 04:42:06 pm
This fread still makes me want to jam my dick in a light socket.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 23, 2009, 04:43:09 pm
This fread still makes me want to jam my dick in a light socket.


Isn't that what you did last night?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 23, 2009, 04:46:15 pm
This fread still makes me want to jam my dick in a light socket.


Isn't that what you did last night?

Yes.  Yes it is.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 23, 2009, 08:22:20 pm
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmatians, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.

The fountain isn't miserable at all. I love that film. Sure the subject matter is death but its actually quite upbeat about it.
I have only seen Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler - if indeed he has created a film without pathologically seeking out and amplifying every emotionally traumatizing moment possible - I still have no motivation to give him another chance.

Umm, can't deal with a little emotion, or do just not like it when a movie makes you notice you have them? He's a great frikkin' director.
Don't try to bait me Dimo, for I am a master baiter, and you'll just end up getting the short end of the stick in any toss up we have. Unless you succeed, and I seem to recall a photo somewhere suggesting that might likely.

Watch those films again, every scene is the most contrived and wrung out after school special melodrama played for maximum impact by someone who just wants to make their audience suffer. There is a certain beauty and craftsmanship to the way he portrays his psychosis, but there is no point to it, no dramatic validation. It's just cynical manipulation of an audience too stupid to realise that just because something makes you feel cold and empty, that doesn't make it art. Fuck him. He's the cinematic equivalent of Coldplay. (based upon the two films of his I've seen)

Oh yeah, here's that photo:
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/mutual.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 23, 2009, 08:27:05 pm

Watch those films again, every scene is the most contrived and wrung out after school special melodrama played for maximum impact by someone who just wants to make their audience suffer. There is a certain beauty and craftsmanship to the way he portrays his psychosis, but there is no point to it, no dramatic validation. It's just cynical manipulation of an audience too stupid to realise that just because something makes you feel cold and empty, that doesn't make it art. Fuck him. He's the cinematic equivalent of Coldplay. (based upon the two films of his I've seen)

All bolded text can apply to the Coen brothers and that's what most argue make them good directors.


And for this post, whenever I click on updated topics I'm going to see this trainwreck of a thread.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 24, 2009, 12:26:07 am
And for this post, whenever I click on updated topics I'm going to see this trainwreck of a thread.

Is it ruining your life yet? Since this thread started I haven't been able to work, my sweetheart got sick, his friend died, my house lost $115,000 in equity, and my ex is suing me.  :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Nast on October 24, 2009, 12:29:11 am
WHENEVER YOU READ THIS THREAD, MILLIONS CHILDREN GET HIT BY A LEUKEMIA-BUS.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 24, 2009, 12:34:06 am
And for this post, whenever I click on updated topics I'm going to see this trainwreck of a thread.

Is it ruining your life yet? Since this thread started I haven't been able to work, my sweetheart got sick, his friend died, my house lost $115,000 in equity, and my ex is suing me.  :x

It's true.  My girlfriend and I have been fighting since I posted here, and the fact that I haven't had an erection since that post can only lead me to believe I'm impotent.  Not having pooped since then means I might be constipated as well.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 24, 2009, 01:05:09 am
And for this post, whenever I click on updated topics I'm going to see this trainwreck of a thread.

Is it ruining your life yet? Since this thread started I haven't been able to work, my sweetheart got sick, his friend died, my house lost $115,000 in equity, and my ex is suing me.  :x

It's true.  My girlfriend and I have been fighting since I posted here, and the fact that I haven't had an erection since that post can only lead me to believe I'm impotent.  Not having pooped since then means I might be constipated as well.

Almost certainly!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 24, 2009, 02:30:40 am
THIS THREAD CAUSED ME TO LOSE FOLLOWERS. TWEET ME BACK.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: rong on October 24, 2009, 04:52:14 am
i always figured requiem for a dream (and spun) were updated versions of reefer madness. i.e. updated government propaganda films. 

that's a conspiracy, right?

lol dick in a light socket.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 24, 2009, 05:00:01 am
i always figured requiem for a dream (and spun) were updated versions of reefer madness. i.e. updated government propaganda films. 

that's a conspiracy, right?

lol dick in a light socket.
I think so. I'd say any coincidence is from lazily using existing cultural drug hysteria for maximum emotional impact.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 24, 2009, 04:57:29 pm
Quote from: Dimocrates KSC
I hear Daron Aronofsky is doing the new Robo-Cop.
I think that might be kind of cool.

Knowing his track record, I'd have to agree.
Nah, his next movie is an adaptation of 101 Dalmatians, where he drowns them in buckets one by one while reading selected Ann Rand quotes.

God I hate that miserable motherfucker.

The fountain isn't miserable at all. I love that film. Sure the subject matter is death but its actually quite upbeat about it.
I have only seen Requiem for a Dream and The Wrestler - if indeed he has created a film without pathologically seeking out and amplifying every emotionally traumatizing moment possible - I still have no motivation to give him another chance.

Umm, can't deal with a little emotion, or do just not like it when a movie makes you notice you have them? He's a great frikkin' director.
Don't try to bait me Dimo, for I am a master baiter, and you'll just end up getting the short end of the stick in any toss up we have. Unless you succeed, and I seem to recall a photo somewhere suggesting that might likely.

Watch those films again, every scene is the most contrived and wrung out after school special melodrama played for maximum impact by someone who just wants to make their audience suffer. There is a certain beauty and craftsmanship to the way he portrays his psychosis, but there is no point to it, no dramatic validation. It's just cynical manipulation of an audience too stupid to realise that just because something makes you feel cold and empty, that doesn't make it art. Fuck him. He's the cinematic equivalent of Coldplay. (based upon the two films of his I've seen)

Oh yeah, here's that photo:
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/spiff_bucket/mutual.jpg)


Go watch the fountain and/or Pi. Pi is very similar to Requiem, but without the drugs. See if your opinion changes after that. If not, stay away from movies. They all want to manipulate your emotions. At least Aranofsky, as you put it, does it with a certain "beauty and craftsmanship," which is more than what you can expect from a lot of the other Hollywood drivel.

And here's a photo:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/guru11/fuck_you.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on October 24, 2009, 05:06:51 pm
you thought the fountain was GOOD?
i thought it was epic lameness and really boring
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 24, 2009, 05:40:11 pm
Go watch the fountain and/or Pi. Pi is very similar to Requiem, but without the drugs. See if your opinion changes after that. If not, stay away from movies. They all want to manipulate your emotions. At least Aranofsky, as you put it, does it with a certain "beauty and craftsmanship," which is more than what you can expect from a lot of the other Hollywood drivel.
Your challenge Dimo, is to find a form of entertainment which doesn't seek to manipulate emotions.

I don't need a happy ending, but I will object if something is contrived purely to profit from making the audience to feel like shit. I will object if miserable wankers try to browbeat an appreciation of said shit under the masquerade of art.

And here's a photo:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/guru11/fuck_you.jpg)

 :lulz: Nicely done.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Malachite on October 24, 2009, 05:55:54 pm
It doesn't matter how many years I spend on the internet, pictures of cats will always be funny.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 24, 2009, 05:57:02 pm
After watching Pi for the third time I decided it was crap.

first I watched it because Aphex Twin and Autechre were on the soundtrack but I'm not sure even one of them was actually featured in the movie, the tracks weren't new, and the rest of the tracks aren't really that brilliant either (except maybe one).

The digits that are supposed to be of Pi in the opening screen are only accurate up to the 14th digit or so, after that it's random numbers (no I didn't notice that either, I read it on IMDB and then checked for myself). The QBLH references are rather shoddy and so was the stuff about chaos theory and the stock market, and at some point he's being scooby chased by rabbis over a 216 (6x6x6! but they dont mention that) digit number and then he trepanizes himself or something, the end.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 24, 2009, 08:17:11 pm
After watching Pi for the third time I decided it was crap.

first I watched it because Aphex Twin and Autechre were on the soundtrack but I'm not sure even one of them was actually featured in the movie, the tracks weren't new, and the rest of the tracks aren't really that brilliant either (except maybe one).

The digits that are supposed to be of Pi in the opening screen are only accurate up to the 14th digit or so, after that it's random numbers (no I didn't notice that either, I read it on IMDB and then checked for myself). The QBLH references are rather shoddy and so was the stuff about chaos theory and the stock market, and at some point he's being scooby chased by rabbis over a 216 (6x6x6! but they dont mention that) digit number and then he trepanizes himself or something, the end.

pi is like a cross between Eraserhead and Tetsuo:the Ironman. Actually, there seriously are elements of that movie where the Shinya Tsukamoto influence comes on pretty thick, but I like that movie none the less.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 25, 2009, 01:44:27 am
Go watch the fountain and/or Pi. Pi is very similar to Requiem, but without the drugs. See if your opinion changes after that. If not, stay away from movies. They all want to manipulate your emotions. At least Aranofsky, as you put it, does it with a certain "beauty and craftsmanship," which is more than what you can expect from a lot of the other Hollywood drivel.
Your challenge Dimo, is to find a form of entertainment which doesn't seek to manipulate emotions.

I don't need a happy ending, but I will object if something is contrived purely to profit from making the audience to feel like shit. I will object if miserable wankers try to browbeat an appreciation of said shit under the masquerade of art.

And here's a photo:
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/guru11/fuck_you.jpg)

 :lulz: Nicely done.
The aspects of a movie I watch out for are to see if I can spot the intent the director had for a film, how well it was constructed and if the director manages to remove his presence from the film and create a sense of immersions.

RFAD did indeed show the gradual distruction of several peoples lives, but I think you are wrong in assuming the unhappy ending was to evoke upset in the viewer. It was established it wasn't some shitty shock ending (I watched grifters the other week and the ending is at odds with the film).
I didn't get the feel of it as a deliberate attack, it was an expected and elegant cap stone to the rest of the film.
It has far more glaring flaws (specifically in the mothers stream) that you can pick at but the ending kept with the seasonal theme of the film. Of course I am incapable of compassion on most levels or sympathy for the characters and was dissecting the ending while watching it, so maybe I missed it as a assault, labouring to extract some emotion from me.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on October 25, 2009, 02:57:07 pm

Your challenge Dimo, is to find a form of entertainment which doesn't seek to manipulate emotions.


Card games. But that's not what this topic is about.

On topic, and a bit repetitive, but has any one here watched Bob Roberts?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysnomia on October 25, 2009, 03:40:41 pm
THIS FREAD IS RAPING SMALL INNOCENT CHILDREN AND PUPPIES IN OUR VERY BACKYARD!!!!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 25, 2009, 03:42:02 pm

Your challenge Dimo, is to find a form of entertainment which doesn't seek to manipulate emotions.


Card games. But that's not what this topic is about.

On topic, and a bit repetitive, but has any one here watched Bob Roberts?

I can't.  This thread made me rip my eyeballs out, so I need to use a braille keyboard.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on October 27, 2009, 03:12:54 am
This thread hasn't yet been banished to the abyss from whence it came.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on April 08, 2010, 10:10:44 pm
bumped for racism.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on April 08, 2010, 11:37:05 pm
You know, I'd just like to say something about The Golden compass that I didn't see previously in this thread, which caused me to kill my parents because its so awful.

MOTHERFUCKING POLAR BEARS FIGHTING TO THE DEATH.

That is all.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on April 09, 2010, 12:39:06 am
Nigel is NOT going to be happy about this, Freeky.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2010, 12:39:57 am
It's Z's fault! I only made a comment.  :cry:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 09, 2010, 12:41:39 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 09, 2010, 12:51:41 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

Iron Man 2, if you liked the first one.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on April 09, 2010, 12:53:29 am
Oooo, I want to see it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 09, 2010, 12:54:41 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

Iron Man 2, if you liked the first one.
I liked robert downey jr mincing about, the action and villain were utterly forgettable. If the second one is fun I'll go see it.
As much as I'd like to see Fing Fang Fume make an appearance, I know its never going to happen.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 09, 2010, 01:00:58 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

Iron Man 2, if you liked the first one.
I liked robert downey jr mincing about, the action and villain were utterly forgettable. If the second one is fun I'll go see it.
As much as I'd like to see Fing Fang Fume make an appearance, I know its never going to happen.

Well Mickey Rourke is Whiplash.  He's usually pretty interesting to watch (though so is Jeff Bridges from the first).  And Don Cheadle as War Machine.  Maybe not memorable, but I think it'll be fun.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on April 09, 2010, 01:01:48 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I dunno. Still trying to wrap my head around "Eraser Head."
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 09, 2010, 01:06:36 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I dunno. Still trying to wrap my head around "Eraser Head."
Its about the dangers of unplanned pregnancy and a vehicle for david lynches depravity. Mystery solved.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on April 09, 2010, 01:08:33 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I dunno. Still trying to wrap my head around "Eraser Head."
Its about the dangers of unplanned pregnancy and a vehicle for david lynches depravity. Mystery solved.

Yeah, that's what they say...

Still, fucked up movie.

Also, still have the horror-mirthy taste of "Pink Flamingos" on my pallete. Doesn't mix well with other films.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 09, 2010, 05:42:32 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?
The Expendables looks like it is going to be unbelievably awesome or unbelievably shitty. It could go either way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6RU5y2fU6s
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on April 09, 2010, 06:00:04 am
Favorite movie of all time: Baron Von Munchausen. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on April 09, 2010, 07:09:53 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I dunno. Still trying to wrap my head around "Eraser Head."
Its about the dangers of unplanned pregnancy and a vehicle for david lynches depravity. Mystery solved.

I think that movie is more about Despair, and Philadelphia.
I don't really get Depravity from Lynch.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on April 09, 2010, 10:59:18 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

Iron Man 2, if you liked the first one.

YEAAEAEAEEAEA

I'm so downloading that one :P
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 09, 2010, 11:37:03 am
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I dunno. Still trying to wrap my head around "Eraser Head."
Its about the dangers of unplanned pregnancy and a vehicle for david lynches depravity. Mystery solved.

I think that movie is more about Despair, and Philadelphia.
I don't really get Depravity from Lynch.
Well Most of film were composed of:
Sexual metaphor and analogues
Fear and the divide between males and females and the difficulty to relate
Fears that many parents towards their newborns, including the slight resentment for the demands placed upon them.
Its overall feel is despair, alienation and failure but the specific metaphor used to drive the film is pretty straightforward sexually related stuff.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 14, 2010, 07:23:57 pm
Is there anything good coming out this year?

I know it's not "this year" but this is really exciting news for me.  Martin Scorcese's next project is adapting the children's book The Invention of Hugo Cabret.  He's doing it in 3D as well, completely of his own accord with no studio pressure.  It'll be the kind of 3D where it's shot in the format (Avatar) as opposed to later adapted (Alice in Wonderland).  The prospect of Scorcese taking on 3D is cool, I'd like to see how he does it.

The book itself is a really wonderful children's novel.  To those spags who have kids I highly recommend it.  The writer is Brian Selznick, who is either son or grandson to the great David O Selznick.  It won the 2008 Caldecott Medal and it's unbelievably visually stunning.  Hugo Cabret is an orphan who lives in a Paris train station in the 30's winding the clocks and stealing for food.  He finds a clockwork automaton that he tries to get working again.  The story is told alternating between prose and beautiful pencil work.  I thought the concept was great because the art isn't illustration, it's as important to driving the story forward as the words themselves.

I also think 2010 is the year a couple Michael Chabon novels get adapted.  The Coen Brothers are coming out with his Yiddish Policemen's Union (a detective story in an alternate history where Israel was never founded and the Jews settled in Alaska, calling themselves the Frozen Chosen).  Again a great fit between story and directors.

The guy who directed The Hours and a few other pretty highly acclaimed movies (none of which I've seen) is tackling The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, which is ambitious to say the least.  I can only picture it as a sprawling epic like Gone With the Wind or Giant due to the length and depth of the novel (which has some of the more beautiful prose I've read).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on April 14, 2010, 07:30:22 pm
Favorite movie of all time: Baron Von Munchausen. 

General Stuart will love you for life.


"Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash!"
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 14, 2010, 08:00:27 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOT THIS THREAD!!!  :crankey:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 14, 2010, 08:13:03 pm
So Christopher gans is to make a film about the Fantômas character. He is basically the first bond villain, first guy to use an overly elaborate death trap and the like.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 14, 2010, 08:21:04 pm
Faust, I didn't have time to mention in the last post to you specifically that I think you might find The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay.  I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it takes place during the Golden Age of Comics.  The main characters follow a similar path that Simon and Schuster did with Superman.  Their lives are affected by the boom of comic books, then the comics code and the congressional hearings, as well as wider world factors like WWII.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 14, 2010, 08:30:08 pm
THIS FREAD IS RAPING SMALL INNOCENT CHILDREN AND PUPPIES IN OUR VERY BACKYARD!!!!
:argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 14, 2010, 08:32:04 pm
Faust, I didn't have time to mention in the last post to you specifically that I think you might find The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay.  I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it takes place during the Golden Age of Comics.  The main characters follow a similar path that Simon and Schuster did with Superman.  Their lives are affected by the boom of comic books, then the comics code and the congressional hearings, as well as wider world factors like WWII.

Thanks. I'll give that a look, I wonder will it end in a dark and gritty confused and aimless mess like superhero comics are now.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on April 22, 2010, 01:12:16 am
Just watched La Dolce Vita. Its long but its style is amazing. This is the first Fellini film I've watched and I've always been sceptical of people hyping up a director a lot, but for him it may not be unfounded, unique stuff.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on April 22, 2010, 07:14:59 am
Favorite movie of all time: Baron Von Munchausen. 

General Stuart will love you for life.


"Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash!"

And I, for one, want no part of it!

...Odd that he and I share that taste.  I've never met anyone else who really loves it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on April 22, 2010, 02:39:26 pm
Recently I saw the movie Alice by Jan Svankmajer, which is a Czech adaptation of Alice in Wonderland, and its fucking phenomenal... dripping with symbolism, and its pure nightmare fuel. I only caught one overt reference to the soviet union, but I wouldnt be surprised if there are more.

Anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd03-wm6DDM

this really is the best adaptation of Alice in Wonderland I've ever seen. (also inb4 Pedo)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on April 22, 2010, 03:42:20 pm
Favorite movie of all time: Baron Von Munchausen. 

General Stuart will love you for life.


"Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash!"

And I, for one, want no part of it!

...Odd that he and I share that taste.  I've never met anyone else who really loves it.

He wants to dress up as him for Dragon*Con next year, of course, in the fancy coat he's wearing in the court of the Grand Turk. FML.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on April 22, 2010, 07:48:30 pm
I dressed like that for high school prom.  Fucking cool. :lol:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on April 22, 2010, 09:25:59 pm
Favorite movie of all time: Baron Von Munchausen. 

General Stuart will love you for life.


"Your reality sir, is lies and balderdash!"

And I, for one, want no part of it!

...Odd that he and I share that taste.  I've never met anyone else who really loves it.

Really? I'm kind of surprised by that.
I mean, it IS a Gilliam joint, his films are generally universally praised.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on April 23, 2010, 12:23:13 am
Yeah, but BvM is his least liked film, I am reliably informed.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on April 23, 2010, 07:12:05 pm
http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=27672

A bit more details on "Alien 0" the prequel done by Ridley Scott.  Quick overview:

-Set 30 years before Alien
-Female lead, not Sigourney Weaver
-potentially teaming with H.R. Giger to redesign the alien
-focuses on space jockey from the first movie
-2011/2012 projected release date

Also did some more research on Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay and The Yiddish Poliemen's Union.  My guess is they're both stuck in development hell, as they keep getting their dates pushed back year after year.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: eighteen buddha strike on April 28, 2010, 04:05:19 am
Shinya Tsukamoto made another Iron Man film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0X4CIFLbzc

I'm pumped. It looks a little bit more contemporary than the last two (not 100% japanese, and also shot in hi-def).
Even if its just a remake of the first Iron Man film, at least Shinya Tsukamoto is handling itself instead of let Hollywood shit all over it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: President Television on April 28, 2010, 04:08:12 am
Shinya Tsukamoto made another Iron Man film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0X4CIFLbzc

I'm pumped. It looks a little bit more contemporary than the last two (not 100% japanese, and also shot in hi-def).
Even if its just a remake of the first Iron Man film, at least Shinya Tsukamoto is handling itself instead of let Hollywood shit all over it.

 :walken:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on May 14, 2010, 08:34:31 pm
First, just let me extend my apologies to Nigel for bumping this thread, but I couldn't find the other movie thread. But...

Just saw Idiocrocy last night, and as funny as it was, it seems like it only took about five years from the time the film was released for us to get about half-way to what that movie is like. Funny, yes. But also very, very scary...

(although, it made me think that I might be able to actually run for office, that is, if I change my middle name to "Mountain Dew.")
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 14, 2010, 09:20:02 pm
First, just let me extend my apologies to Nigel for bumping this thread, but I couldn't find the other movie thread. But...

Just saw Idiocrocy last night, and as funny as it was, it seems like it only took about five years from the time the film was released for us to get about half-way to what that movie is like. Funny, yes. But also very, very scary...

(although, it made me think that I might be able to actually run for office, that is, if I change my middle name to "Mountain Dew.")

 :cramstipated:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 14, 2010, 09:25:10 pm
Saw Iron man today. RDJr is good, but the plot was pretty damn weak, especially the stuff about him dying of whatever poisoning.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2010, 11:11:19 pm
Saw Iron man today. RDJr is good, but the plot was pretty damn weak, especially the stuff about him dying of whatever poisoning.

I saw it too. I agree with the poisoning bit, but I thought it was pretty good overall.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 14, 2010, 11:12:51 pm
Saw Iron man today. RDJr is good, but the plot was pretty damn weak, especially the stuff about him dying of whatever poisoning.

I saw it too. I agree with the poisoning bit, but I thought it was pretty good overall.
Well my main beef with the first film was that the action and bad guy were completely boring, I'm sick of big fights on highways.
This time both the action and RDJr mincing about entertained me.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2010, 11:16:03 pm
Saw Iron man today. RDJr is good, but the plot was pretty damn weak, especially the stuff about him dying of whatever poisoning.

I saw it too. I agree with the poisoning bit, but I thought it was pretty good overall.
Well my main beef with the first film was that the action and bad guy were completely boring, I'm sick of big fights on highways.
This time both the action and RDJr mincing about entertained me.

I liked how the end fight was totally reminiscent of a multiplayer first person shooter game. "BOOM!" "You see that?" "Yeah, nice." I lol'd.
Mickey Rourke wasn't bad at all, either.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 14, 2010, 11:25:23 pm
Saw Iron man today. RDJr is good, but the plot was pretty damn weak, especially the stuff about him dying of whatever poisoning.

I saw it too. I agree with the poisoning bit, but I thought it was pretty good overall.
Well my main beef with the first film was that the action and bad guy were completely boring, I'm sick of big fights on highways.
This time both the action and RDJr mincing about entertained me.

I liked how the end fight was totally reminiscent of a multiplayer first person shooter game. "BOOM!" "You see that?" "Yeah, nice." I lol'd.
Mickey Rourke wasn't bad at all, either.
I'm glad he is getting work again, he was really good in sin city and the wrestler.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2010, 11:31:17 pm
It's been a while since I saw Sin City, and I had wanted to see The Wrestler but never got around to it. I'ma have to rent those or something.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 14, 2010, 11:40:42 pm
It's been a while since I saw Sin City, and I had wanted to see The Wrestler but never got around to it. I'ma have to rent those or something.
Sin city hasn't aged well and it paved the way for the tacky violence of the watchmen, spirit and kickass, its still fun but a lot of what was revolutionary about it is dated now. The wrestler however is a brilliantly made film with lush detail and good acting.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 14, 2010, 11:47:13 pm
It's been a while since I saw Sin City, and I had wanted to see The Wrestler but never got around to it. I'ma have to rent those or something.
Sin city hasn't aged well and it paved the way for the tacky violence of the watchmen, spirit and kickass, its still fun but a lot of what was revolutionary about it is dated now. The wrestler however is a brilliantly made film with lush detail and good acting.
Whoo! :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2010, 12:28:55 am
I thought Rourke was a shoe in for best actor from The Wrestler.  I guess Milk was more culturally relevant with the gay marriage debates?  I don't know.  It's a good movie, he plays it well and subtly.

I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet.  I hear it isn't as good as the first, which I really enjoyed.  I'm not sure there's much else I'm interested in seeing this summer.  The Expendables?  For pure action star goodness?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 15, 2010, 12:45:07 am
I thought Rourke was a shoe in for best actor from The Wrestler.  I guess Milk was more culturally relevant with the gay marriage debates?  I don't know.  It's a good movie, he plays it well and subtly.

I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet.  I hear it isn't as good as the first, which I really enjoyed.  I'm not sure there's much else I'm interested in seeing this summer.  The Expendables?  For pure action star goodness?

Machete. Its going to be fan fucking tastic
Edit: wrong link, search new trailer machette
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2010, 12:46:16 am
I thought Rourke was a shoe in for best actor from The Wrestler.  I guess Milk was more culturally relevant with the gay marriage debates?  I don't know.  It's a good movie, he plays it well and subtly.

I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet.  I hear it isn't as good as the first, which I really enjoyed.  I'm not sure there's much else I'm interested in seeing this summer.  The Expendables?  For pure action star goodness?

Machete. Its going to be fan fucking tastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nPet2lzha8

Oh yeah!  Danny fucking Trejo (who I think is also in The Expendables).  You know, I never saw Grindhouse, the movies or the trailers.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 15, 2010, 12:47:08 am

I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet.  I hear it isn't as good as the first, which I really enjoyed.

It's good as far as sequels go. It's a better sequel than, say, Transformers 2, when they turned peaceful Optimus into fightmongering Optimus, and the best they could think of for a ginormous robot was a balls joke. :kingmeh:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 15, 2010, 12:49:16 am
I thought Rourke was a shoe in for best actor from The Wrestler.  I guess Milk was more culturally relevant with the gay marriage debates?  I don't know.  It's a good movie, he plays it well and subtly.

I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet.  I hear it isn't as good as the first, which I really enjoyed.  I'm not sure there's much else I'm interested in seeing this summer.  The Expendables?  For pure action star goodness?

Machete. Its going to be fan fucking tastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nPet2lzha8

Oh yeah!  Danny fucking Trejo (who I think is also in The Expendables).  You know, I never saw Grindhouse, the movies or the trailers.
Planet terror is a fun zombie film and the better of the two. Death proof has amazing accomplishment of actually making Kurt Russle ACT. I never thought it was possible. Death proof takes forever to get good though, don't watch the two films together in one sitting.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on September 24, 2010, 11:14:09 pm
Bump!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 24, 2010, 11:26:01 pm
Machete looks like the best film of the summer, that I've seen mention of anyway.  

Iron Man 2 was fun, and cut above the usual mindless Hollywood action flick, but not by much.  

The Expendables threatened to be a mindless Hollywood action flick, but somehow avoided that fate, perhaps due to Mickey Rourke's performance when talking about Bosnia (and, interestingly, they had Jason Statham playing someone who wasn't a total thug and borderline 90s antihero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NinetiesAntiHero), for a change.  Though he still had the monotone Aussie accent).  

The Ghostwriter had promise, as an adaptation of a Robert Harris novel but...I don't know, something was ultimately lacking.  It had many of the makings of a good British Conspiracy Thriller in the vein of State of Play and Edge of Darkness but did not fulfill those expectations.

Robin Hood was awful.  I liked the twist on the backstory and the action scenes were, as always impressive, but given it was Robin Hood, the lack of actual outlawry and amazing feats of bowmanship were very noticeable.  Of course, I am sure this is going to end up being a trilogy, so the second and third films may redeem it in those respects, but it is not usually the case that the first film in a series is the worst.  Also, the scene with the barons facing down King John was just cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on September 24, 2010, 11:29:44 pm
I'm going to go see Dispicable Me tonight. Anyone know if it's good/awful?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on September 24, 2010, 11:36:28 pm
Uh my mother took my retarded uncle to see it and they liked it  :lol: dunno if that is good or bad
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 25, 2010, 01:32:17 am
Gonna see Machete on sunday.

Dunno if I'll have time to see Expendables before it stops playing though.

Yeah those are two films I will actually pay for instead of download in a month or two :-P [ok I do have some 2 for the price of 1 coupons].

I didn't like Iron Man 2 nearly as much as the first film. Glad I didn't pay for it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on September 25, 2010, 02:32:47 am
I'm going to go see Dispicable Me tonight. Anyone know if it's good/awful?

I liked it (and was impressed by the animation, as some-one who studies that crap).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on September 25, 2010, 04:45:26 am
Ah dang, I heard one poor review and decided to give it a miss!  :(
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on September 25, 2010, 04:47:25 am
MACHETE was epic from start to finish.
They did an excellent job of making the movie what you wanted it to be after watching the fake preview.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 25, 2010, 09:44:22 pm
 :x

THIS THREAD

NO WONDER MY LIFE IS FALLING APART AGAIN!  :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on September 25, 2010, 09:50:00 pm
THE FREE MARKET DEMANDED IT NIGEL
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 25, 2010, 09:55:15 pm
No discussion of Inception?

This makes me sad....
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2010, 10:01:24 pm
No discussion of Inception?

This makes me sad....

I liked this review of Inception

Quote
The cinematic progenitor of Christopher Nolan's new movie, Inception, is the catastrophically ridiculous Robin Williams vehicle, What Dreams May Come. What it lacks in goofy black guardian angels, it makes up for in its grotesquely impoverished view of the human imagination. Empowered to create one's own reality, the best that anyone can do in What Dreams is plop themselves into your secretary's Best-of-the-Impressionists wall calendar. But Chris Nolan and cinematographer Wally Pfister--and really, was there ever a more apropos name?--can't even manage Monet. The visual experience of Inception left me with the distinct impression that I had been drugged by a circa-1999 Tom Ford for Gucci ad and then mercilessly date-raped by his shiny partner, a Lexus commercial. I kept expecting "The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection" to dash across the screen in some boldly sans-serif font. I kept expecting the lease options.

The setup of Inception is supposed to be a brain-teaser. Leonardo DiCaprio and his Jerry Bruckheimer band of specialists (The Chemist, the Forger, the Architect . . . Oh, Lord) invade people's dreams and steal their ideas, or in the case of the central action in this instance, plant a bug of a new idea in someone's brain. Here, they are trying to convince the sharp-jawed, Savile-row scion of some kind of Charles Foster Kane energy executive that what he really wants to do is break up his dad's monopoly. This all has something to do with Ken Watanabe, who runs a rival company? Whatever. The movie doesn't care. Because the fundamental conflict that drives the entire narrative is so hastily and poorly sketched, the dour, totalitarian porentousness of the proceedings seems more than a tad overwrought. Well, this is Christopher Nolan, after all, who played a story about a man who dresses up like a bat in order to karate-chop Bond villians with a straighter face than a community-theater production of Lear, so I'm not sure what else I expected. Inception trips in at well over two hours, which according to the exhaustively-repeated conceit of the film itself is well over a billion years of dream-time, and it contains a single joke. I counted. It involved Joseph Gordon-Levitt, whose high, tight ass is the only thing I recall fondly of my wasted time in the theater, and Ellen Page sharing a brief kiss, and the whole movie seems ashamed of it. This is serious.

Anyway, the differing speed of the passage of time is just a part of the larger conceit, which is that not only can Leonardo et al. invade dreams, but that by descending into ever-deeper states of unconsciousness, they can concoct dreams-within-dreams. Even as action/scifi fare this is pretty thin gruel, and since Nolan insists on cluttering the goings-on with pages and pages of expository dialogue full of crackpot ontology and two-joint epistemological impoderables, the whole edifice reeks faintly of the ridiculous. In his silly but entertaining Existenz, which had the misfortune to come out opposite The Matrix, Croneberg managed with much greater ease and humor to trip the lysergical-acidic borders of multiple mind-states and alternate consciousness. In Inception, dreams sit neatly within dreams like Matryoshka dolls, everything just-so, ascent and descent symbolized by Leonardo DiCaprio's rickety dream-elevator (no, really), which, obviously, plies a linear path from top to bottom. By the way, this constant mentioning of other movies is intentional. Inception is the most derivative film ever made, so shameless in its cribbing that you'd think it were meant as pastiche, except for its relentless, monotonous self-seriousness.

The characters in Inception keep asking each other if they remember how they got there, there being here, or there, or where they are, or whatever, the point being that “in a dream,” three words repeated with talismanic frequency, as if the filmmakers thought we might forget, you only ever find yourself in media res, with no recollection of how you arrived at the bar, so to speak. It was a familiar feeling. As the movie dragged into its third hour, I began to feel something similar myself. How did I get here? and, Please let this all be a dream. The punishing score, which Hans Zimmer ripped off from Eyes Wide Shut, drones at merciless volume throughout, and by the time Joseph Gordon-Levitt was floating around weightlessly and everyone else was attacking Cobra Commander's arctic lair (no, really), I thought I might burst an eardrum. Ellen Page, who sometime in the first hour demonstrated a remarkable capacity to fold dream-Paris back on itself and generally bend reality like Neo meets MC Escher is along for the ride, but doesn't actully do anything once the action gets underway, other than harrass DiCaprio for imprisonining his memory of his dead wife in, um, the basement? In the hotel room where she committed suicide. Jesus Christ, Nolan, eat a fucking muffin. Schindler's List had more laughs. By the way, the wife-in-the-limbo-of-her-own-imagining, that too is ripped off from What Dreams May Come. Inception isn't a movie. It's an exquisite corpse. A mash-up.

The visual effects have been widely praised, but I found them dull and uninspired. The whole film is flat, colorless, and corporate. My dreams are a lot less Prada and a lot more Alexander McQueen, if you know what I'm saying. Everything is shot at flat angles, and the interminable gun battles and hallway fisticuffs are filmed with so much quick-cutting that you can't tell who's punching whom or shooting what, especially in the big alpine shootout (ripped off from about seven different Bond numbers, the opening of True Lies, Ice Station Zebra, etc.), where everyone, good and bad alike, is dressed in identical white parkas and face masks! The Matrix was dumb, but it was true to its comic-book-meets-kung-fu aesthetic and actually gave us a few full karate chops before the camera cut away, and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, whose wire-based aerial combat is also ripped off, was filmed almost entirely in balletic long-shot. Well, everyone's metallic threads glint and do not wrinkle, the men wear spread collars, and Marion Cotillard wanders around wondering what she's doing here, especially as the strains of Je ne regrette rien keep rising in the ghostly background. I would take this as a quirky, metafictive joke, except this is a Christopher Nolan movie, and the rare joke sticks out like Spock at the Funnybone.

I suppose I could list the other movies and moviemakers that Nolan shamelessly rips off. The Wizard of Oz. Miyazaki. Michael Mann. Oh, why bother. Inception is dull, overlong, sexless, and unimaginative. It is a $200 million car commercial, a glossy magazine photo. You give yourself license to create whole worlds from the stuff of pure consciousness, and the best you can come up with is a corner café in Paris and the generic cityscape of Gotham City? Christopher Nolan, you are ripping off your own stupid movies! "If you die this deep, you'll end up in limbo," DiCaprio warns. Oh, let's repeat the adverb. Portentously. Pass me the pistol, brother. I'm going in.

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2010/07/deception.html
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: bds on September 25, 2010, 11:41:35 pm
I liked that review,  :lulz:. I also liked the movie, though.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on September 25, 2010, 11:48:31 pm
yeah i definitely see that reviewers points, but i liked the movie anyway. maybe im easily amused
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 26, 2010, 01:01:07 am
I get what the reviewer's saying about the dream scape being way lame for what it could have been, BUT

it gets definite points for fist fights in null gravity, and I actually liked some of the serious bits of it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 26, 2010, 03:08:01 pm
No discussion of Inception?

This makes me sad....

I liked this review of Inception

Quote
The cinematic progenitor of Christopher Nolan's new movie, Inception, is the catastrophically ridiculous Robin Williams vehicle, What Dreams May Come. What it lacks in goofy black guardian angels, it makes up for in its grotesquely impoverished view of the human imagination. Empowered to create one's own reality, the best that anyone can do in What Dreams is plop themselves into your secretary's Best-of-the-Impressionists wall calendar. But Chris Nolan and cinematographer Wally Pfister--and really, was there ever a more apropos name?--can't even manage Monet. The visual experience of Inception left me with the distinct impression that I had been drugged by a circa-1999 Tom Ford for Gucci ad and then mercilessly date-raped by his shiny partner, a Lexus commercial. I kept expecting "The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection" to dash across the screen in some boldly sans-serif font. I kept expecting the lease options.

The setup of Inception is supposed to be a brain-teaser. Leonardo DiCaprio and his Jerry Bruckheimer band of specialists (The Chemist, the Forger, the Architect . . . Oh, Lord) invade people's dreams and steal their ideas, or in the case of the central action in this instance, plant a bug of a new idea in someone's brain. Here, they are trying to convince the sharp-jawed, Savile-row scion of some kind of Charles Foster Kane energy executive that what he really wants to do is break up his dad's monopoly. This all has something to do with Ken Watanabe, who runs a rival company? Whatever. The movie doesn't care. Because the fundamental conflict that drives the entire narrative is so hastily and poorly sketched, the dour, totalitarian porentousness of the proceedings seems more than a tad overwrought. Well, this is Christopher Nolan, after all, who played a story about a man who dresses up like a bat in order to karate-chop Bond villians with a straighter face than a community-theater production of Lear, so I'm not sure what else I expected. Inception trips in at well over two hours, which according to the exhaustively-repeated conceit of the film itself is well over a billion years of dream-time, and it contains a single joke. I counted. It involved Joseph Gordon-Levitt, whose high, tight ass is the only thing I recall fondly of my wasted time in the theater, and Ellen Page sharing a brief kiss, and the whole movie seems ashamed of it. This is serious.

Anyway, the differing speed of the passage of time is just a part of the larger conceit, which is that not only can Leonardo et al. invade dreams, but that by descending into ever-deeper states of unconsciousness, they can concoct dreams-within-dreams. Even as action/scifi fare this is pretty thin gruel, and since Nolan insists on cluttering the goings-on with pages and pages of expository dialogue full of crackpot ontology and two-joint epistemological impoderables, the whole edifice reeks faintly of the ridiculous. In his silly but entertaining Existenz, which had the misfortune to come out opposite The Matrix, Croneberg managed with much greater ease and humor to trip the lysergical-acidic borders of multiple mind-states and alternate consciousness. In Inception, dreams sit neatly within dreams like Matryoshka dolls, everything just-so, ascent and descent symbolized by Leonardo DiCaprio's rickety dream-elevator (no, really), which, obviously, plies a linear path from top to bottom. By the way, this constant mentioning of other movies is intentional. Inception is the most derivative film ever made, so shameless in its cribbing that you'd think it were meant as pastiche, except for its relentless, monotonous self-seriousness.

The characters in Inception keep asking each other if they remember how they got there, there being here, or there, or where they are, or whatever, the point being that “in a dream,” three words repeated with talismanic frequency, as if the filmmakers thought we might forget, you only ever find yourself in media res, with no recollection of how you arrived at the bar, so to speak. It was a familiar feeling. As the movie dragged into its third hour, I began to feel something similar myself. How did I get here? and, Please let this all be a dream. The punishing score, which Hans Zimmer ripped off from Eyes Wide Shut, drones at merciless volume throughout, and by the time Joseph Gordon-Levitt was floating around weightlessly and everyone else was attacking Cobra Commander's arctic lair (no, really), I thought I might burst an eardrum. Ellen Page, who sometime in the first hour demonstrated a remarkable capacity to fold dream-Paris back on itself and generally bend reality like Neo meets MC Escher is along for the ride, but doesn't actully do anything once the action gets underway, other than harrass DiCaprio for imprisonining his memory of his dead wife in, um, the basement? In the hotel room where she committed suicide. Jesus Christ, Nolan, eat a fucking muffin. Schindler's List had more laughs. By the way, the wife-in-the-limbo-of-her-own-imagining, that too is ripped off from What Dreams May Come. Inception isn't a movie. It's an exquisite corpse. A mash-up.

The visual effects have been widely praised, but I found them dull and uninspired. The whole film is flat, colorless, and corporate. My dreams are a lot less Prada and a lot more Alexander McQueen, if you know what I'm saying. Everything is shot at flat angles, and the interminable gun battles and hallway fisticuffs are filmed with so much quick-cutting that you can't tell who's punching whom or shooting what, especially in the big alpine shootout (ripped off from about seven different Bond numbers, the opening of True Lies, Ice Station Zebra, etc.), where everyone, good and bad alike, is dressed in identical white parkas and face masks! The Matrix was dumb, but it was true to its comic-book-meets-kung-fu aesthetic and actually gave us a few full karate chops before the camera cut away, and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, whose wire-based aerial combat is also ripped off, was filmed almost entirely in balletic long-shot. Well, everyone's metallic threads glint and do not wrinkle, the men wear spread collars, and Marion Cotillard wanders around wondering what she's doing here, especially as the strains of Je ne regrette rien keep rising in the ghostly background. I would take this as a quirky, metafictive joke, except this is a Christopher Nolan movie, and the rare joke sticks out like Spock at the Funnybone.

I suppose I could list the other movies and moviemakers that Nolan shamelessly rips off. The Wizard of Oz. Miyazaki. Michael Mann. Oh, why bother. Inception is dull, overlong, sexless, and unimaginative. It is a $200 million car commercial, a glossy magazine photo. You give yourself license to create whole worlds from the stuff of pure consciousness, and the best you can come up with is a corner café in Paris and the generic cityscape of Gotham City? Christopher Nolan, you are ripping off your own stupid movies! "If you die this deep, you'll end up in limbo," DiCaprio warns. Oh, let's repeat the adverb. Portentously. Pass me the pistol, brother. I'm going in.

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2010/07/deception.html

:mittens:

wow that review is pretty much right on ALL accounts.

-  Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the only good thing about the movie
-  the movie is so much derivative, based on so many other movies, but manages to do it worse than every one of them--the reviewer forgot to mention Mirrormask, btw.
-  the imagination of the dreamscapes was indeed rather bland and disappointing (not even an avalanche scene could save them, WTF)
- etc
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 26, 2010, 03:20:52 pm
I still haven't seen it yet, and will definitely see it once it is out on DVD, but I must admit, after several people telling me it was "good, but not that good" after seeing it, I don't hold as high hopes as I originally did when I discovered the premise of the film.

It sounds like the dreamscape premise is nothing more than excuse for wicked awesome special effects, which is sad.  If they had applied some thought to it, like doing the different layers of dreaming in such a way that you didn't know how far you had slipped down, that you could get carried away by the dream itself, that strange and irrational things would sometimes arise that could cause problems for the main characters, things like that, it could've been very cool.  And what happens when they break into the mind of a lucid dreamer?  I'd imagine they would be fucked, since that person could pretty much do whatever they liked to them within the dream.  Or they broke into someone's mind and they weren't in REM sleep at that moment.  Some cool things could be done with the difference in time between the dream world and the real world.  And perhaps to be the kind of person who breaks into peoples dreams, you'd need certain psychological attributes, or to lack them.  What if those who broke into dreams never had dreams themselves, only a kind of REM sleep that involved being more deeply unconscious?  How would that effect them?

See, I've already made the premise a thousand times more interesting and I've only had one coffee so far today.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on September 26, 2010, 08:54:54 pm
I still haven't seen it yet, and will definitely see it once it is out on DVD, but I must admit, after several people telling me it was "good, but not that good" after seeing it, I don't hold as high hopes as I originally did when I discovered the premise of the film.

It sounds like the dreamscape premise is nothing more than excuse for wicked awesome special effects, which is sad.  If they had applied some thought to it, like doing the different layers of dreaming in such a way that you didn't know how far you had slipped down, that you could get carried away by the dream itself, that strange and irrational things would sometimes arise that could cause problems for the main characters, things like that, it could've been very cool.  And what happens when they break into the mind of a lucid dreamer?  I'd imagine they would be fucked, since that person could pretty much do whatever they liked to them within the dream.  Or they broke into someone's mind and they weren't in REM sleep at that moment.  Some cool things could be done with the difference in time between the dream world and the real world.  And perhaps to be the kind of person who breaks into peoples dreams, you'd need certain psychological attributes, or to lack them.  What if those who broke into dreams never had dreams themselves, only a kind of REM sleep that involved being more deeply unconscious?  How would that effect them?

See, I've already made the premise a thousand times more interesting and I've only had one coffee so far today.

That alone would be awesome. For one thing, a lucid dreamer would probably be reluctant to accept that anyone in their dream was real. And the difference in a person's personality when they have the freedom from any reprocussions their actions may hold, than when they're trapped in meat-space would be fun to explore.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 26, 2010, 11:51:31 pm
Just came back from watching Machete.

Right now I think it's the most awesome movie I've seen in years.

Well...

Anyway Machete FUCKING DELIVERS. Everything promsied in the Grindhouse trailer, and more. Over the top, hilarious and gory .. All in a very good way. Even Lindsay Lohan did some fine acting, and she didn't even need any costumes most of the time either :-P
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2010, 03:11:14 pm
Gonna watch Machete tonight.  Hey didn't LMNO predict she'd be a crackwhore porn actress by now?  Not quite there yet, but he certainly deserves some brownie points for that prediction.

Watching Predators right now.  Despite being only "alright", this is without a doubt the second best film in the entire Predator franchise.  Instead of a Predator running amok on Earth, or seeding the planet with Aliens to hunt down, in this they've kidnapped several of the most dangerous people on earth - a Mexican cartel enforcer, a Yakuza hitman, an RUF guerrilla, a guy on Death Row, a Russian spetsnaz soldier fighting in Chechnya, an IDF soldier, a guy who is probably a mercenary and a doctor (the anomaly, so far) - and dropped them on an alien planet and are hunting them down, big game style.  

It's not got the style or tension of the original, but it's not bad, all things considered.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 27, 2010, 04:34:42 pm
Enjoy Machete!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 27, 2010, 04:52:34 pm
I love the Grindhouse movies, and actually bought them on Amazon, they have an anniversary DVD set on presale I bought about 3 weeks ago, should be in the mail soon, because I watch them whever I can.  I'm weird.  I'll actually watch them back to back, too.  My favorite parts, though, are the fake commercials for other movies, and Machete was badass, of course.

Can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 27, 2010, 07:24:29 pm
I nearly wept tears at the sheer awesomeness of the opening scene of Machete.  And then things just got better.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 14, 2010, 07:20:52 pm
FUCK YES

Julie Taymore -- who directed TITUS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7bybNiBhno), my all time favorite shakespearean adaptation, is directing another Shakespeare play -- THE TEMPEST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_hgZCoIV4

FUCK YES!

DECEMBER 10TH YOU FUCKS




in other news, this thread will be 1 year old TOMORROW.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Adios on October 14, 2010, 07:33:57 pm
I misread the thread title as Flim Flam and thought of the old movie by the same name. The Flim Flam Man.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 14, 2010, 08:23:30 pm
This actually looks to be a fairly awesome movie season:

127 Hours - Danny Boyle's new flick about the guy a few years back who gets his arm trapped under a boulder and had to hack it off to escape.  It sounded flimsy at first but the trailer looks great and I think James Franco can carry it.

True Grit - The Coen Brothers are doing a western starring Jeff Bridges.  Hell yeah.

Red looks hysterical.  I'll probably wait until its out of theaters to see it but come on:  Hellen Mirren with a sniper rifle, based on a Warren Ellis work, and Hellen Mirren with a sniper rifle.

I've heard good things about The Social Network.

Darren Aronofsky's new one about rival balet dancers looks odd.  I'm not sure I'll be looking into it, but I know he has a following.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on October 14, 2010, 11:25:27 pm

Red looks hysterical.  I'll probably wait until its out of theaters to see it but come on:  Hellen Mirren with a sniper rifle, based on a Warren Ellis work, and Hellen Mirren with a sniper rifle.


Huh what?

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU- THAT LOOKS AWESOME!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on October 15, 2010, 05:51:44 pm
Yeah, Red looks like it has potential, just based on the cast alone. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 05, 2010, 09:22:21 pm
I just saw Franklyn last night for the first time.

Holy. Shit.

I think I need to watch it again to "get it" more, but I caught a lot of things before the film was over. I recommend it for anyone, as the Steampunkery in it isn't over the top. It's more about imagination and different planes of existence than anything.

They have it on Netflix to stream for those that have accounts. Seriously. See it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 05, 2010, 09:25:00 pm
*Response to two month old conversation*

 I liked Red. It's the first movie I've seen in years that I actually felt was worth paying for.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 05, 2010, 10:23:51 pm
Agreed, it was pretty good.  Pretty damn good indeed.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2010, 01:08:55 pm
Just watched The Legend of the Guardians.  Surprisingly dark for what initially looks like a kids animation film.

Also OWL CABAL needs to be up in this shit.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 01:19:36 pm
IMO, a good kid's movie will have that touch of darkness to it.  One of my favorites from when I was a kiddo was The Secret of NIMH.  One of Don Bluth's earlier offerings before he gave us that sappy An American Tail movie. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2010, 01:28:13 pm
Yeah, maybe.  Letting Zack Snyder direct a kid's film was always going to result in something along these lines though, so they cant have been unaware of it ending up this way.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 07, 2010, 02:11:07 pm
IMO, a good kid's movie will have that touch of darkness to it.  One of my favorites from when I was a kiddo was The Secret of NIMH.  One of Don Bluth's earlier offerings before he gave us that sappy An American Tail movie. 

Oh NIMH is SO GOOD.


Also: Watership Down.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on December 07, 2010, 04:35:51 pm
Tron is looking like the first movie that actually deserves the cheesy 3D treatment. I'm going to see it for the spectacle alone.

Plus: Yay, for a new Aronofsky movie!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: President Television on December 07, 2010, 04:50:46 pm
Tron is looking like the first movie that actually deserves the cheesy 3D treatment. I'm going to see it for the spectacle alone.

This. I am not ashamed in the least to say that I'll be going to see Tron just because it looks so fucking cool.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 04:51:29 pm
Tron is looking like the first movie that actually deserves the cheesy 3D treatment. I'm going to see it for the spectacle alone.

This. I am not ashamed in the least to say that I'll be going to see Tron just because it looks so fucking cool.

Original or GTFO.

TGRR,
Knows the old ways are the best.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 04:56:36 pm
The new TRON looks way too slick.  Part of what made the original was that grainy-low-fi quality. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 07, 2010, 04:57:15 pm
Tron is looking like the first movie that actually deserves the cheesy 3D treatment. I'm going to see it for the spectacle alone.

This. I am not ashamed in the least to say that I'll be going to see Tron just because it looks so fucking cool.

Original or GTFO.

TGRR,
Knows the old ways are the best.

It's the sequel. Jeff Bridges is in it and everything...not gonna lie, it looks fucking AWESOME. When GS and I went to see Harry Potter last week, this 16 year old thing behind us was like, "God, this looks so fucking gay." During the preview. I thought GS was going to turn around and say something like, " I don't know how you survived, slave. Prepare to terminate."  

I actually wasn't going to see it either until I saw the preview.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:12:18 pm
Tron is looking like the first movie that actually deserves the cheesy 3D treatment. I'm going to see it for the spectacle alone.

This. I am not ashamed in the least to say that I'll be going to see Tron just because it looks so fucking cool.

Original or GTFO.

TGRR,
Knows the old ways are the best.

It's the sequel. Jeff Bridges is in it and everything...not gonna lie, it looks fucking AWESOME. When GS and I went to see Harry Potter last week, this 16 year old thing behind us was like, "God, this looks so fucking gay." During the preview. I thought GS was going to turn around and say something like, " I don't know how you survived, slave. Prepare to terminate."  

I actually wasn't going to see it either until I saw the preview.

Why do they have to make sequels of really bad 70s/80s shit, Suu?

Next will be "The Black Hole II".
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 05:17:06 pm
Oh hell no!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:17:43 pm
Oh hell no!

Oh, yeah.  Sooner or later.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 05:18:48 pm
Apparently, sooner:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=14767

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:19:56 pm
Apparently, sooner:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=14767



THANK YOU, NANNYWALL!  IF I CAN'T SEE IT, IT CAN'T HURT MY BRAIN!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 05:22:04 pm
The guy who is doing the Tron sequel is also working on a Black Hole sequel due in 2012 (of course).  Same deal at the new Tron.  Shit that happened after the original in a shinier CGI universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole#Remake

Quote
In November 2009, it was reported that Disney has plans to remake the movie. Director Joseph Kosinski and producer Sean Bailey are attached to the production.[5][8]


Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:29:22 pm
The guy who is doing the Tron sequel is also working on a Black Hole sequel due in 2012 (of course).  Same deal at the new Tron.  Shit that happened after the original in a shinier CGI universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole#Remake

Quote
In November 2009, it was reported that Disney has plans to remake the movie. Director Joseph Kosinski and producer Sean Bailey are attached to the production.[5][8]




I hate you all.  :madbanana:

I dreaded, even in my early teens, the promise of a sequel left hanging at the end of the first one.  TBH was basically a John Wayne movie put into space (It even had the "old prospector" character, as the older of the two maintenance robots).

It was crap.  It went beyond bad, into Buldada™, then right back into bad.  It made me hate America, Hollywood, and in fact all of Western civilization.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on December 07, 2010, 05:31:18 pm
Apparently, sooner:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=14767



Okay, I'm about to get a lot of shit for this, but...

OMFG!!!! THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:32:23 pm
Apparently, sooner:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=14767



Okay, I'm about to get a lot of shit for this, but...

OMFG!!!! THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

You make me sad, Dimo.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on December 07, 2010, 05:34:06 pm
Even as an adult, I still can't make it through Tron 1 without dozing off

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 05:35:22 pm
I think that [The Black Hole] was pretty much the first sci-fi movie I saw as a kid.  Quickly followed by the Star Wars movies.  Seeing it later as an adult, I realised how awful it really was.  I would also say it was a bit shocking to see Disney portray a robot tunneling into a persons chest like that, but then again, this is also the Disney that killed Bambi's mother in the first few minutes.  

But really, is this the new trend?  Sequels of one-off low-rent sci-fi movies from 20 years ago?  I imagine we should be seeing a Short Circuit sequel or re-boot soon, right?  
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 05:41:14 pm
 I imagine we should be seeing a Short Circuit sequel or re-boot soon, right?  

Yep:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Circuit#Sequel_and_remake

Quote
In April 2008, Variety reported that Dimension Films had acquired the rights to remake the original film. Dan Milano had been hired to write the script, and David Foster to produce it. Foster said that the robot's visual look would not change.[6]

On October 27, 2009, it was announced that Steve Carr would direct the remake and that the film's plot would involve a boy from a broken family befriending the Number 5 robot.[7][8]

IMDb currently has the Short Circuit remake listed as a 2011 release. According to the page, the set storyline is described as being an updated re-imagining of the classic John Badham film where Number 5, one of a group of experimental military robots, undergoes a sudden transformation after being struck by lightning. He develops self-awareness, consciousness, and a fear of the reprogramming that awaits him back at the factory. With the help of a troubled young boy, Number 5 tries to evade capture and convince his creator that he has truly become alive. There is currently no cast information, only a confirmation that Steve Carr will be directing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:43:52 pm
WE HAVE TO KILL IT WITH FIRE
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 07, 2010, 05:44:12 pm
 I imagine we should be seeing a Short Circuit sequel or re-boot soon, right?  

Yep:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Circuit#Sequel_and_remake

Quote
In April 2008, Variety reported that Dimension Films had acquired the rights to remake the original film. Dan Milano had been hired to write the script, and David Foster to produce it. Foster said that the robot's visual look would not change.[6]

On October 27, 2009, it was announced that Steve Carr would direct the remake and that the film's plot would involve a boy from a broken family befriending the Number 5 robot.[7][8]

IMDb currently has the Short Circuit remake listed as a 2011 release. According to the page, the set storyline is described as being an updated re-imagining of the classic John Badham film where Number 5, one of a group of experimental military robots, undergoes a sudden transformation after being struck by lightning. He develops self-awareness, consciousness, and a fear of the reprogramming that awaits him back at the factory. With the help of a troubled young boy, Number 5 tries to evade capture and convince his creator that he has truly become alive. There is currently no cast information, only a confirmation that Steve Carr will be directing.

 :facepalm:

Okay, who's going to be the next to predict one?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:45:09 pm

Okay, who's going to be the next to predict one?

Grease.  The fuckers are going to remake Grease.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 07, 2010, 05:45:43 pm

Okay, who's going to be the next to predict one?

Grease.  The fuckers are going to remake Grease.

 :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 07, 2010, 05:46:23 pm
This shouldn't be surprising anyone; they remade Death Race 2000 a few years ago, and as far as I know didn't even include the BEST FUCKING LINE IN THE MOVIE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 05:49:32 pm
This shouldn't be surprising anyone; they remade Death Race 2000 a few years ago, and as far as I know didn't even include the BEST FUCKING LINE IN THE MOVIE.

"He's dead, but not neccesarily out of the race"?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 07, 2010, 05:49:56 pm
This shouldn't be surprising anyone; they remade Death Race 2000 a few years ago, and as far as I know didn't even include the BEST FUCKING LINE IN THE MOVIE.

Or any of the original premise aside from a race that involved killing people.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 07, 2010, 05:52:53 pm
This shouldn't be surprising anyone; they remade Death Race 2000 a few years ago, and as far as I know didn't even include the BEST FUCKING LINE IN THE MOVIE.

"He's dead, but not neccesarily out of the race"?
              Is that a grenade?                                                                           Yes, it's a hand grenade.
                             \                                                                                          \
(http://www.downspike.com/movies/deathrace/grenade.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on December 07, 2010, 05:56:47 pm
The best way to stop these terrible remake/relaunches is not to see them.




Faust,
Will not see the sacrilege that is the new A-Team.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on December 07, 2010, 05:58:35 pm
Whatever, I'd check out a short-Circuit remake. Doing a remake, or a "re-imagining," isn't a always a bad thing (I mean, the new Star Trek was pretty good, IMO).

Worst Case Scenario: A crappy movie gets made. It happens all the time. We all get to talk shit about it. We move on.

 Best case: You get a really kick ass movie that benefits from more modern technology, which wasn't available at the time of the original production.

I want to see a remake of "Gremlins," so fuck you guys.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 07, 2010, 05:59:38 pm
The best way to stop these terrible remake/relaunches is not to see them.




Faust,
Will not see the sacrilege that is the new A-Team.

 IT'S. NOT.  WORKING.  :x
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 06:06:17 pm
I imagine we should be seeing a Short Circuit sequel or re-boot soon, right? 

Yep:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Circuit#Sequel_and_remake

Quote
In April 2008, Variety reported that Dimension Films had acquired the rights to remake the original film. Dan Milano had been hired to write the script, and David Foster to produce it. Foster said that the robot's visual look would not change.[6]

On October 27, 2009, it was announced that Steve Carr would direct the remake and that the film's plot would involve a boy from a broken family befriending the Number 5 robot.[7][8]

IMDb currently has the Short Circuit remake listed as a 2011 release. According to the page, the set storyline is described as being an updated re-imagining of the classic John Badham film where Number 5, one of a group of experimental military robots, undergoes a sudden transformation after being struck by lightning. He develops self-awareness, consciousness, and a fear of the reprogramming that awaits him back at the factory. With the help of a troubled young boy, Number 5 tries to evade capture and convince his creator that he has truly become alive. There is currently no cast information, only a confirmation that Steve Carr will be directing.

 :facepalm:

Okay, who's going to be the next to predict one?

It has the making of a new drinking game.  think of an old movie.  Google it.  If there is a remake/sequel in the works, you drink.  If not, er, I dunno, something else happens.















Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on December 07, 2010, 06:07:08 pm
Robot Monster.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/robot-monster_319.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on December 07, 2010, 06:10:19 pm
Some of 1990's top movies:

Home Alone
Ghost
Dances with Wolves - remade as Avatar
Ninja Turtles - remade as a CGI flick
Hunt for Red October
Total Recall - slated for remake (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.moviefone.com%2F2010%2F10%2F21%2Ftotal-recall-remake-casting%2F&ei=Vnf-TK2oCIXwrQeZr7yFCA&usg=AFQjCNGHjnuNYrBSX8fQQ0sDUWnyoFZtJA)
Dick Tracy - possible sequel (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4092.html)
Back to the Future 3 - some great rumors about a remake starring Justin Bieber, but I think that's just a troll
Die Hard 2 - they're still making these, right?
Robocop 2 - remake was in the works for 2011 and then axed due to budget


1991's top movies:
Terminator 2 - they are still making these movies, even without Ahnold
Addams Family - being remade by Tim Burton as a stop motion animation flick (http://geeksofdoom.com/2010/03/21/tim-burton-to-direct-3d-stop-motion-adaptation-of-the-addams-family/)
Naked Gun 2 1/2
Silence of the Lambs
Beauty and the Beast
Prince of Tides
Point Break
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 06:10:41 pm
How about a remake of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 feature movie where they are watching a remake.  
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2010, 06:11:38 pm
Robot Monster.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/robot-monster_319.jpg)

Now THAT is Buldada™.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 06:12:30 pm
Addams Family - being remade by Tim Burton as a stop motion animation flick (http://geeksofdoom.com/2010/03/21/tim-burton-to-direct-3d-stop-motion-adaptation-of-the-addams-family/)

Lemme guess, starring Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter?  
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on December 07, 2010, 06:13:37 pm
not a lot from 1989

Top Flicks 1989

Batman - remade as the Dark Knight
The Last Crusade - reactivated as Indy and the Crystal Skull
Look Who's Talking
Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Ghostbusters 2 - well there's always rumors about this but nothing definite yet
Little Mermaid
Driving Miss Daisy
Dead Poets Society
Uncle Buck
Field of Dreams
Bill & Ted's - lots of rumors, no dice
The Abyss
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 07, 2010, 07:02:44 pm
They'll get there, sooner or later.

This year has had a very heavy concentration of 80s remakes.  Maybe a bunch of copyrights expired or something? Or maybe the market was getting flooded with comic remakes, annoying people.

I do know this much though: Hollywood right now will take the path of least resistance which allows them to shaft the scriptwriters as hard as possible.  Comics, books, television programs, older movies...anything with a pre-guaranteed audience is going to be a target for a remake.  Guaranteed money, pay the writers less and who gives a fuck if it has any artistic merit or if it's entertaining or not?  KNOWN NAME = PROFIT.  End of story business model.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on December 07, 2010, 07:28:22 pm
It's a double hook approach.  You hook the kid with the shiny CGI Sci Fi or Fantasy and you hook the Dad and/or Mom with the nostalgia of something they were hooked on when they were a kid. 

As I was writing this another movie popped into my head, and so I looked, and there it was.

Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 08, 2010, 02:30:11 am
Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on December 08, 2010, 02:37:03 am
They cannot possibly make G'mork any scarier. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Phox on December 08, 2010, 02:42:06 am
 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

If they remake Neverending Story, they destroy the last vestiges of my childhood.


'Specially if they change Gmork.
 :cry:

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 08, 2010, 02:42:57 am
Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

Looks like Falcor and Atreyu will be flying to a theater near you sometime around 2012.   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on December 08, 2010, 03:00:48 am


Why do they have to make sequels of really bad 70s/80s shit, Suu?

Next will be "The Black Hole II".

Will watch.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 08, 2010, 09:51:54 am
:argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

If they remake Neverending Story, they destroy the last vestiges of my childhood.


'Specially if they change Gmork.
 :cry:



Gmork will be voiced by Samuel L Jackson in the remake.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on December 08, 2010, 12:44:12 pm
One of my favorites from when I was a kiddo was The Secret of NIMH.

Isn't that the feature documentary about illegal price-fixings in the rechargeable battery industry?

Quote from: The Good Rev Roger
Next will be "The Black Hole II".

What do you mean, next? Last time I checked on PirateBay, they already released "Black Hole IX: Fist-Fighting For Faecal Freedom" ...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on January 17, 2011, 02:33:15 am
Saw Black Swan tonight. Daron aronofski nails it again. The only working director that hasn't missed, IMO.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on January 17, 2011, 02:50:02 am
I actually saw Tangled last night with a friend of mine. I've been kinda disappointed with Disney features lately (I miss the old pen and ink animation style), but this was REALLY fun and enjoyable. It is a musical and it is computer animated, but it's they're 50th feature and they went all out.

Plus, Rapunzel is a total flake, Flynn is a sarcastic prick, and the romance isn't annoying and sappy. Parts of it were downright hysterical. I don't think they've done a deliberate comedy since Hercules. So if any of you are a fan of classic Disney fairytale pieces and got fed up with Toy Story, Cars, and all that shit, go see this, it will NOT disappoint.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on January 17, 2011, 04:54:21 am
I was impressed by some of the animation test and concept art I saw. Good to know it doesn't have a vacant plot too.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on January 17, 2011, 04:57:00 am
Less Disney, more Black Swan. Has anyone else watched it yet?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on January 17, 2011, 06:45:59 am
THIS
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6061/3084przesluchanie1982po.jpg)

Favourite quote:
    A communal lavatory is as important to the army as a rifle. You weakened the defensive power of our fatherland. You were working in favour of western imperialism.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 17, 2011, 02:18:01 pm
Less Disney, more Black Swan. Has anyone else watched it yet?

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2010/12/requiem-for-swan.html

Quote
Darren Aronofsky's black-swan ballet flick bears about as much resemblance to real ballet as Speed Racer to the Daytona 500, Tron to the inner workings of Microsoft Office. This alone isn't damning. There are plenty of sports dramas that get the details wrong but still manage to entertain. I'm lookin' at you, Rocky. Of course, in the hands of Sly Stallone, The Black Swan would've featured Natalie Portman as a plucky upstart from Scranton. Her mother was a short-order cook and her dad was a bowling ball. She wanted to be a Sugar Plum fairy in The Nutcracker, but instead she got cast as Clara's slipper. It doesn't matter. She meets the boy of her dreams, a television repairman named Enzio. They move to Seacacus and open a dance school. The end.

Instead, we are subjected to a load of hack-job, gussied-up torture porn by one of Hollywood's most egregious misogynists. Despite it's grand guignol drag, it is really a dowdy, ten-million-times-before-told tale of art and madness that proposes itself as a psychological thriller even though its psychology is about as insightful as the Saw franchise. Art is interesting, and the real physical rigor of ballet would make an appealingly concrete metaphor for the pain, repetition, dedication, commitment, and struggle behind great art and great performance. As a vehicle for trite mad scenes and a lot of bogus crap about how performers must immolate themselves in order to achieve transcendence, how genius is insanity, it falls, you'll pardon me, flat on its skinny ass. Maybe he should've a movie about a mad opera singer turning into a real Walkyrie, although, I don't know, I guess when you're dedicated to setting Natalie Portman writhing around with her hand in her panties or whatever the notion of some fleshy Brunhilde jumping into the orchestra pit loses some appeal.

It's certainly true that dancers' bodies are subject to brutal conditioning that would put the toughest guys in the NFL on the inactive list, and it's also true, although the extent is exaggerated, that female dancers in particular are prone to eating problems in the obsessive pursuit of physical perfection, and yet as compared to other performers and artists I have known, I find dancers to be generally the least nutso. A lot of them frankly have the zoned-out bliss of a yoga teacher. Well, fuck, a lot of them become yoga teachers, or they get a job selling subscriptions for the non-profit down the road. Like professional athletes, their careers are short; the human body hits its physical peak early, and that's simply that. It is a competitive business. Some people do flame out, unable to take the pressure or live up to their potential, but those who make it into a professional company, an elite company, are very often happy. They are, after all, living their dream.

This is what Aronofsky misses most and why his portait of an artist, even a crazy one, is so unconvincing and frankly boring. I presume that our friend Darren really likes making movies, even if raising money is a grind and production an administrative nightmare, a series of sleepless nights and too-long days eating lousy food and living in hotels. There is a joy in achievement after struggle. Yet not once do we see Natalie Portman's Nina Sayers enjoy herself. Nowhere are we permitted some brief glimpse of the joy of great performance. Oh, what, is she doing it because of her central-casting stage mother? Um, Darren, what's my motivation? You're crazy, Natalie. That's your motivation. Now, hold still while we apply this blood to your naked body. Look, even Peter Shaffer, a playwright with the emotional insight of a goldfish whose owner left a book of Freud case studies open on the credenza beside the tank, figured out that Doomed-Genius Composer© Mozart really fucking liked music, was transported by it, was an instrument of a sort of divinity, whose own soul resonated with the notes. Prima ballerina Natalie Portman is an instrument, all right, like a fleshlight. There is a scene meant, I don't know, to imply her burgeoning sexual seductiveness, in which an old perv masturbates through his pants while making kissy noises at her on the subway. Darren Aronofsky, that man is you.

Vincent Cassel is the Artistic Director (which Aronofsky has confused with a choreographer, which he has in turn confused for a stage director), and he spends the first half of the movie reading the program notes from the student matinee and the second half telling Natalie that she'll never be Odile unless she throws her vag all over the stage and "lets go." He is French, so needless to say he is a Lothario. "That was me seducing you when it should've been the other way around." Oh, brother. Fabio wasn't available? The whole thing reads like Nora Roberts adapted for the screen by John Carpenter. It's as gross as Japanese porno and dull as your daughter's dance recital.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on January 17, 2011, 02:27:25 pm
People who take Women and Gender Studies classes too seriously shouldn't attempt to write film critiques.  It's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on January 17, 2011, 02:37:17 pm
Have you ever seen a pointe ballet dancer's foot and ankle?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on January 17, 2011, 02:40:42 pm
Nope.  Should I?
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Post by: SuuCal on January 17, 2011, 03:32:48 pm
Nope.  Should I?

Probably not. Most of them can't keep going after as certain age. I gained a lot of respect for my annoying cousins' dancing after I saw the shit they put themselves through for the sake of being graceful. 16 year olds sitting around, getting their bloody feet unwrapped after a show and then iced is horrible. And then having to walk on crutches for a couple of days, and then doing it all over for "conditioning". Their teacher was basically telling me that if they all didn't break their ankles and some toes and let them heal for the shoes, they'd never be able to do it properly.
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Post by: Faust on January 17, 2011, 03:58:31 pm
Less Disney, more Black Swan. Has anyone else watched it yet?

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2010/12/requiem-for-swan.html

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Darren Aronofsky's black-swan ballet flick bears about as much resemblance to real ballet as Speed Racer to the Daytona 500, Tron to the inner workings of Microsoft Office. This alone isn't damning. There are plenty of sports dramas that get the details wrong but still manage to entertain. I'm lookin' at you, Rocky. Of course, in the hands of Sly Stallone, The Black Swan would've featured Natalie Portman as a plucky upstart from Scranton. Her mother was a short-order cook and her dad was a bowling ball. She wanted to be a Sugar Plum fairy in The Nutcracker, but instead she got cast as Clara's slipper. It doesn't matter. She meets the boy of her dreams, a television repairman named Enzio. They move to Seacacus and open a dance school. The end.

Instead, we are subjected to a load of hack-job, gussied-up torture porn by one of Hollywood's most egregious misogynists. Despite it's grand guignol drag, it is really a dowdy, ten-million-times-before-told tale of art and madness that proposes itself as a psychological thriller even though its psychology is about as insightful as the Saw franchise. Art is interesting, and the real physical rigor of ballet would make an appealingly concrete metaphor for the pain, repetition, dedication, commitment, and struggle behind great art and great performance. As a vehicle for trite mad scenes and a lot of bogus crap about how performers must immolate themselves in order to achieve transcendence, how genius is insanity, it falls, you'll pardon me, flat on its skinny ass. Maybe he should've a movie about a mad opera singer turning into a real Walkyrie, although, I don't know, I guess when you're dedicated to setting Natalie Portman writhing around with her hand in her panties or whatever the notion of some fleshy Brunhilde jumping into the orchestra pit loses some appeal.

It's certainly true that dancers' bodies are subject to brutal conditioning that would put the toughest guys in the NFL on the inactive list, and it's also true, although the extent is exaggerated, that female dancers in particular are prone to eating problems in the obsessive pursuit of physical perfection, and yet as compared to other performers and artists I have known, I find dancers to be generally the least nutso. A lot of them frankly have the zoned-out bliss of a yoga teacher. Well, fuck, a lot of them become yoga teachers, or they get a job selling subscriptions for the non-profit down the road. Like professional athletes, their careers are short; the human body hits its physical peak early, and that's simply that. It is a competitive business. Some people do flame out, unable to take the pressure or live up to their potential, but those who make it into a professional company, an elite company, are very often happy. They are, after all, living their dream.

This is what Aronofsky misses most and why his portait of an artist, even a crazy one, is so unconvincing and frankly boring. I presume that our friend Darren really likes making movies, even if raising money is a grind and production an administrative nightmare, a series of sleepless nights and too-long days eating lousy food and living in hotels. There is a joy in achievement after struggle. Yet not once do we see Natalie Portman's Nina Sayers enjoy herself. Nowhere are we permitted some brief glimpse of the joy of great performance. Oh, what, is she doing it because of her central-casting stage mother? Um, Darren, what's my motivation? You're crazy, Natalie. That's your motivation. Now, hold still while we apply this blood to your naked body. Look, even Peter Shaffer, a playwright with the emotional insight of a goldfish whose owner left a book of Freud case studies open on the credenza beside the tank, figured out that Doomed-Genius Composer© Mozart really fucking liked music, was transported by it, was an instrument of a sort of divinity, whose own soul resonated with the notes. Prima ballerina Natalie Portman is an instrument, all right, like a fleshlight. There is a scene meant, I don't know, to imply her burgeoning sexual seductiveness, in which an old perv masturbates through his pants while making kissy noises at her on the subway. Darren Aronofsky, that man is you.

Vincent Cassel is the Artistic Director (which Aronofsky has confused with a choreographer, which he has in turn confused for a stage director), and he spends the first half of the movie reading the program notes from the student matinee and the second half telling Natalie that she'll never be Odile unless she throws her vag all over the stage and "lets go." He is French, so needless to say he is a Lothario. "That was me seducing you when it should've been the other way around." Oh, brother. Fabio wasn't available? The whole thing reads like Nora Roberts adapted for the screen by John Carpenter. It's as gross as Japanese porno and dull as your daughter's dance recital.

Wow, how can someone miss the point so completely and write so many words about a film?
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Post by: SuuCal on January 17, 2011, 04:04:31 pm
Meh, IOZ doesn't know his armpit from his asshole anyway.
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Post by: Cain on January 17, 2011, 04:11:51 pm
I rather suspect he was trolling Aronofsky fanbois, which is in fact a noble calling, no matter how many points one must miss to do it.
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Post by: Faust on January 17, 2011, 04:16:48 pm
I rather suspect he was trolling Aronofsky fanbois, which is in fact a noble calling, no matter how many points one must miss to do it.
Must be, but unless things have changed a lot in the last couple of years that is still only a set of about ten people.
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Post by: Cuddlefish on January 17, 2011, 07:07:47 pm
Yeah, I stopped reading when he compared it to Saw.

And, frankly, I don't give a crap what y'all think, Aronofski has a near perfect record, compared to other working directors.

Sure, some of Black Swan was a little exaggerated, or at times unreaistic (*gasp* an unrealistic movie?), and sure, this movie may not compare to some pieces of classic cinema, but let's compare it to, say, Michael Bay (who won't just give up and die already) or someone like Scorcese, who was brilliant, but tapered out and settled so much into his particuar style, that you can predict the shots as they're coming. Similar to TimBurton, who's Edward Scissor Hands and Beetlejuice were fucking great, but then he did Nightmare Before Christmas, and every movie he's made since has been a rehash of everything he's done prior. And DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON M. NIGHT SHAMYLAN! I swear to god, if I had aids, I'd bite my lip and spit in that guiys mouth.

Thing is, Aronofski has done VASTLY different styles and genres (compare The Fountain with, say, Requiem for a Dream), which seems to be something that most modern directors shy away from,as they try so hard to develop thier own "flavor" or style, instead of letting the movie itself dictate its own flavor or style (Yes, believe it or not, the movie KNOWS what it wants to be. We get bad movies when directors IGNORE what a movie wants to be [Bay] and when directors exaggerate or draw attention to one particular bit of what makes the movie good, instead of just letting it be what it is [Burton]).

Regardless, I have to say I'm a bit worried about his next movie, whatever it may be, because it seems that he's gone almost full circle with Black Swan (stylisticaly) which is an indicator that he will start "plateau-ing," himsef, which I'm sure is sort of unavoidable.

Like it or not, my original point is: Black Swan was better than any Disney movie ever. Plus, Disney hates women. And Jews. And Children, so, fuck you Baloo.
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Post by: Faust on January 17, 2011, 07:21:04 pm
The fountain will always be my favourite DA file, but you are right, he hasn't put a foot wrong yet.
Both the wrestler and black swan overlap thematically to the point that the films feel like a duo.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 17, 2011, 08:36:18 pm
Aronofsky is talented, and I thoroughly enjoy his work, but he really isn't all that varied.  FictionPuss has a point the last time we discussed Aronofsky.  Basically the guy just makes the audience suffer, throwing shitpile after torturous shitpile at protagonists.  My first impression after seeing The Wrestler was that it was a really great movie - to see precisely once.  Anything further than that is just an exercise in sadomasochism.

Now in his quest to obliterate all hope from our lives, he has very beautiful and poignant moments in every movie.  For that, I can't hate him.

As far as indie directors though, I don't think he has the ability of, say, Danny Boyle.

This has been a slow movie year for me.  I haven't been to the theater since Inception, and I really want to check out Black Swan, True Grit, 127 Hours, and Social Network.
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Post by: Faust on January 17, 2011, 09:25:40 pm
Aronofsky is talented, and I thoroughly enjoy his work, but he really isn't all that varied.  FictionPuss has a point the last time we discussed Aronofsky.  Basically the guy just makes the audience suffer, throwing shitpile after torturous shitpile at protagonists.  My first impression after seeing The Wrestler was that it was a really great movie - to see precisely once.  Anything further than that is just an exercise in sadomasochism.

Now in his quest to obliterate all hope from our lives, he has very beautiful and poignant moments in every movie.  For that, I can't hate him.

As far as indie directors though, I don't think he has the ability of, say, Danny Boyle.

This has been a slow movie year for me.  I haven't been to the theater since Inception, and I really want to check out Black Swan, True Grit, 127 Hours, and Social Network.
I wouldn't agree with that, at least not for the fountain. There is a strong current of sorrow through it but very little of his physical torture style. The only film of his that I'd find masochistic to watch again would be Requiem for a dream.
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Post by: Triple Zero on January 17, 2011, 11:41:04 pm
So I saw "Green Hornet" this weekend. I'm not really familiar with the comic superhero, but I wonder, is the premise of the original series as well that the Hornet is a bumbling fool without any powers or skills, while his sidekick does all the work and is the only of the two that actually has a superpower (being "bullet time", matrix style kung-fu fighting)?

While the film was absolutely ridiculous, it was entertaining.

It also reminded me again that I should really avoid 3D films as long as they cost €3 extra. It just doesn't really add anything, IMO. Human vision uses very many different cues for depth perception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception), and most of those are already provided by regular "2D" screen projection. "3D" films only add stereopsis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereopsis), which isn't all that important when you're not actually using it for anything, such as hand-eye coordination. The end result? After about half an hour I hardly notice I'm watching a 3D film anymore, unless I pay special attention to the effects.

Additionally, since most 3D films are English, they got subtitles, which are always projected at the same depth, slightly in front of the screen, regardless of whether they partially occlude an object that actually sticks out further into the room. And even if they don't, they help emphasize the fact that you're looking at a screen (even if you'd guess it's a few feet closer than it actually is).

I might give it one more try for some nice 3D animated kids film, if I can go to the matinee which is probably dubbed in Dutch.
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Post by: SuuCal on January 18, 2011, 02:37:48 am
So I saw "Green Hornet" this weekend. I'm not really familiar with the comic superhero, but I wonder, is the premise of the original series as well that the Hornet is a bumbling fool without any powers or skills, while his sidekick does all the work and is the only of the two that actually has a superpower (being "bullet time", matrix style kung-fu fighting)?


Yes, and yes. The original Kato was Bruce Lee during the TV series.
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 01:51:29 pm
Less Disney, more Black Swan. Has anyone else watched it yet?

Saw it over the weekend.  Was incredibly UNimpressed.  Then again, perhaps I was giving him, and the reviews, too much credit.

The way the movie was hyped was pretty much, "Lynch sodomizing Cronenberg while listening to Tchaikovsky."  What I saw was Showgirls without a sense of humor, combined with broad-handed brush-strokes of Freud.

Put it this way: In Requiem for a Dream, I was shocked, horrified, spooked, and saddened.  One of the scariest scenes in the movie involved a fucking refrigerator that rocked back and forth for fuck's sake.  I was expecting at least that much from this film.

You want a ballet movie? See Altman's The Company.  You want a psycho-sexual lesbian mindfuck?  See Mullholland Drive.  I think the fact that Black Swan has gotten the kind of reviews it has says more about the poor quality of movies being released these days than it does about whatever element of genius this movie may or may not contain.
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Post by: Hoopla on January 18, 2011, 02:19:29 pm
I have personally found that almost any ultra-hyped movie, if waited to view too long, will ultimately disappoint.  Once you've heard a few dozen times that something is "INCREDIBLE" one often starts to become prematurely defensive about its inherent worth.

Having said that, you of course may be completely correct.  "Lynch sodomizing Cronenberg while listening to Tchaikovsky." is a far stretch, for sure.

What I liked about it was that it was the only film I can think of where the protagonist is not only mentally insane, but physically insane as well.
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 02:24:14 pm
Cecil B Demented.
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Post by: Hoopla on January 18, 2011, 02:30:05 pm
Touché.
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 02:53:37 pm
Snarkiness aside, how much of Black Swan was unexpected as you watched it?  I was careful not to read any spoilers, but it unfolded pretty much as expected, and the few twists that were thrown in didn't really alter the plot or the themes.

Oh, and one could argue that Fight Club also had a protagonist who was both mentally and physically insane.

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Post by: Disco Pickle on January 18, 2011, 02:58:19 pm
haven't seen Black Swan yet, but Aronofsky is supposed to be doing The Wolverine

He better not fuck it up.  Haven't been disappointed with a  movie of his yet.

Black Swan may be the first one I miss.
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Post by: Faust on January 18, 2011, 03:00:41 pm
Snarkiness aside, how much of Black Swan was unexpected as you watched it?  I was careful not to read any spoilers, but it unfolded pretty much as expected, and the few twists that were thrown in didn't really alter the plot or the themes.

Oh, and one could argue that Fight Club also had a protagonist who was both mentally and physically insane.



From the sounds of things it was more the media hype that ruined the experience for you. I avoided anything on the film and I enjoyed it a lot but if someone had told me it was "Lynch sodomizing Cronenberg while listening to Tchaikovsky." before I went in I definitely wouldn't have enjoyed it as much as I did.

The story was pretty predictable, what with them giving you a summary at the start of swan lake which the film follows to a large extent with the role in the place replacing the prince being seduced.
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Post by: Faust on January 18, 2011, 03:02:31 pm
haven't seen Black Swan yet, but Aronofsky is supposed to be doing The Wolverine

He better not fuck it up.  Haven't been disappointed with a  movie of his yet.

Black Swan may be the first one I miss.
That would be a shame, even if its not peoples favourite Aranofski film its certainly a good movie.
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 03:10:30 pm
I can honestly tell you: It was my experience in watching other movies (even his own previous films) that ruined it for me.  I suppose even the edgiest of Hollywood movies are, well, still too Hollywood for my tastes.

Before I am castigated further, I have to say that the movie was beautiful.  Aronofsky has a great eye for visual moments, and the Dance Club scene was great, classic Aronofsky. 

That much said, all the main characters have acted better in other movies.  Even Mila Kunis.  Especially Portman.
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Post by: Triple Zero on January 18, 2011, 03:25:59 pm
So I saw "Green Hornet" this weekend. I'm not really familiar with the comic superhero, but I wonder, is the premise of the original series as well that the Hornet is a bumbling fool without any powers or skills, while his sidekick does all the work and is the only of the two that actually has a superpower (being "bullet time", matrix style kung-fu fighting)?


Yes, and yes. The original Kato was Bruce Lee during the TV series.

Okay thanks, I was worried the feeling might have been an unintended consequence of the film trying too hard to be funny, or something. Original Green Hornet is also not entirely serious, then?

And LMNO, thanks for mentioning Mulholland Drive. It's on my list of "classic movies I should watch but keep forgetting about" :)
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 03:33:20 pm
Original Green Hornet was a vigilante with ass-kicking partner who walked both sides of the law.  He was the Mouth and the Brains, and Kato was the Fists.  Like the Avengers, but grittier.


Later versions camped it up a bit.
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Post by: Faust on January 18, 2011, 05:15:17 pm
I can honestly tell you: It was my experience in watching other movies (even his own previous films) that ruined it for me.  I suppose even the edgiest of Hollywood movies are, well, still too Hollywood for my tastes.

Before I am castigated further, I have to say that the movie was beautiful.  Aronofsky has a great eye for visual moments, and the Dance Club scene was great, classic Aronofsky. 

That much said, all the main characters have acted better in other movies.  Even Mila Kunis.  Especially Portman.

That's a shame, did you find that with the Fountain? I have a soft spot for it, probably because it is a lot less gristly then his other films.
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Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 05:19:33 pm
Didn't see it.
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Post by: Faust on January 18, 2011, 05:25:43 pm
Didn't see it.
Well I won't to hype it up. Even if it has nothing else it has an excellent Clint Manstalls score and really beautiful visuals. I'd like to hear what you think of it.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on February 04, 2011, 03:10:33 pm
We interrupt this high-brown motion picture discussion to bring you:

Electra Luxx (http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi0629273/)

Carla Gugino plays an adult film actress who, sorry, excuse me...

:fap:  :fap:  :fap:


Who decides to get out of the business.
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Post by: Hoopla on February 04, 2011, 03:32:04 pm
 :D

Carla Gugino looks quite a lot like pornstar Tory Lane.  Though Carla is MUCH better, and has real tits.
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Post by: Cuddlefish on February 07, 2011, 02:52:27 pm
Finally saw Machete last night. Yup. 
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Post by: President Television on February 07, 2011, 07:12:44 pm
Finally saw Machete last night. Yup. 

Was it as awesome as the motorcycle-mounted minigun in the trailers made it look?
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Post by: Cuddlefish on February 07, 2011, 10:38:26 pm
Finally saw Machete last night. Yup. 

Was it as awesome as the motorcycle-mounted minigun in the trailers made it look?

The Lohan nude body double was the only major disappointment.
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Post by: Freeky on May 06, 2011, 09:10:36 pm
Stepping ITT.



Also, I just saw Black Swan last week, and OH MY GOD it was the most amazing movie I've seen to date.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 06, 2011, 09:43:38 pm
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS HAGGISFUCKING CHAIRCOCKING SEMENPUKING SWEATLICKER OF A DISEASED TAINTHREAD DOING BACK ON THE FRONT PAGE????? :crankey:
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Post by: Luna on May 06, 2011, 09:45:47 pm
My eyes.  Oh, my eyes...

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/misc/smiley-vault-misc-043.gif)
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Post by: Freeky on May 06, 2011, 10:02:42 pm
Freeky,
Ain't got no sense, ain't a-scurred, neither. :lulz:
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Post by: SuuCal on May 06, 2011, 10:05:15 pm
..But Black Swan *IS* fucking awesome.
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Post by: Jenne on May 07, 2011, 12:46:29 am
..But Black Swan *IS* fucking awesome.

THIS.
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Post by: Faust on May 08, 2011, 09:09:58 pm
Is Thor as bad as I imagine it is?
I'm thinking of going to this next week.
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Post by: Freeky on May 08, 2011, 09:23:34 pm
Is Thor as bad as I imagine it is?
I'm thinking of going to this next week.

It looks pretty bad.  they chose poorly for the actor, and the premise itself doesn't seem to match up.  Some guy dies and is given the chance to Save Humanity With a Hammer?  I thought "Thor" was actually Thor, Norse god of thunder.
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Post by: Luna on May 08, 2011, 10:29:23 pm
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 08, 2011, 11:16:14 pm
I will attempt to see Thor for two reasons:

1.  Kat Dennings is in it, and she is unfreakingbelievably beautiful.

2.  In vain hope that the sequel will be Beta Ray Bill and we can see an orange horse throwing hammers at people in space.
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Post by: Luna on May 08, 2011, 11:17:09 pm
I will attempt to see Thor for two reasons:

1.  Kat Dennings is in it, and she is unfreakingbelievably beautiful.

2.  In vain hope that the sequel will be Beta Ray Bill and we can see an orange horse throwing hammers at people in space.

That would be freakin' awesome.
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Post by: Faust on May 08, 2011, 11:54:04 pm
Beta Ray Bill is a far more interesting character then Thor, I'd love to see some proper Space stuff with himself and even the silver surfer.
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Post by: Placid Dingo on May 09, 2011, 03:35:42 am
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.

The reviews I read gave it a hammering.
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Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 09, 2011, 03:37:24 am
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.

The reviews I read gave it a hammering.

ISN'T THIS THREAD PAINFUL ENOUGH!?
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Post by: Luna on May 09, 2011, 03:39:14 am
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.

The reviews I read gave it a hammering.

ISN'T THIS THREAD PAINFUL ENOUGH!?

Honestly.

I read a couple of reviews that said the reaction was thundering applause.
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Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 03:58:19 am
...


Anyways. I finally saw Kick Ass today. It was good, not quite what I expected, which I think was more humor. It actually gets quite serious and violent, which was a nice spin.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World, however, is now probably in my top 10 movies of all time. It's fucking amazing.
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Post by: Placid Dingo on May 09, 2011, 04:08:53 am
...


Anyways. I finally saw Kick Ass today. It was good, not quite what I expected, which I think was more humor. It actually gets quite serious and violent, which was a nice spin.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World, however, is now probably in my top 10 movies of all time. It's fucking amazing.

'I need to pee on her' is the best example of something funny that is super hard to explain being turned into a clear and quick joke.
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Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 04:17:38 am
That and "I'm in lesbians with you."

And the Vegan Police. I was in stitches with the Vegan Police.
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Post by: Xooxe on May 09, 2011, 07:19:04 am
YAY IT'S THIS THREAD!!!!

Survive Style 5+ is the most interesting nonsense I've seen in ages. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEH7nDkiPEk

Quote from: imdb
A man continually trying and failing to get his wife to stay dead; a self-absorbed ad agency creative director who comes up with one unworkable inane idea after another; a British hitman who only wants to know everyone's function in life; and an unfortunate office worker and father whose brain is left scrambled after a stage hypnotist is murdered in mid-performance. Starting off as unrelated plot lines, they intertwine with each other as they continue on their respective ways.

If any of it had a point then I missed it.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World, however, is now probably in my top 10 movies of all time. It's fucking amazing.

I hated it apart from that guy sat on the ziggurat throne. Never seen anything more pretentious.  :lol:
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Post by: Cain on May 09, 2011, 07:35:18 am
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.

Yeah, but people in general are retarded.

I agree with Faust that it looks bad, but I may still check it out.

Anyway, I recently saw The Lincoln Lawyer on DVD and I would suggest if you want a competent legal thriller to give it a go.  Matthew McConaughey plays his part well, and though you'll probably figure where the ultimate ending of the film is going to go, it is interesting to see how it gets there.  It's not brilliant, but it doesn't have to be in order to compete with most films out currently.
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Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 09, 2011, 08:24:57 am
Reviews on Thor from people who've seen it have been generally positive.

I may try to find time next week to catch it.

The reviews I read gave it a hammering.

ISN'T THIS THREAD PAINFUL ENOUGH!?

 :x
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Post by: Faust on May 09, 2011, 09:20:35 am
In case anyone hasn't seen it yet give Brick a look, I was watching it again last night and its still stunning.
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Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 12:18:21 pm
I hated it apart from that guy sat on the ziggurat throne. Never seen anything more pretentious.  :lol:

I've found that people that hate it haven't put any significant time toward playing video games or reading graphic novels in their life. Not saying that this is a BAD thing, but it's definitely aimed toward a specific genre of geek.
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Post by: Faust on May 09, 2011, 12:30:12 pm
I hated it apart from that guy sat on the ziggurat throne. Never seen anything more pretentious.  :lol:

I've found that people that hate it haven't put any significant time toward playing video games or reading graphic novels in their life. Not saying that this is a BAD thing, but it's definitely aimed toward a specific genre of geek.
It references a lot of stuff, and while it has its own narrative the full story doesn't come across as well as it did in the comics, of course it never could given the amount of material and the average length of a film.
I loved it, but there are too many geek references for wide appeal.
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Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 12:32:07 pm
I haven't read the graphic novels yet. I really need to.
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Post by: LMNO on May 09, 2011, 02:18:54 pm
I also want to put in my praise for Scott Pilgrim.  I thought it was fantastic, and the way it played with formalism was excellent.
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Post by: Hoopla on May 09, 2011, 02:23:07 pm
Yeah, I liked it a lot better than I thought I would. 

It even made Casa Loma seem almost interesting.
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Post by: Hoopla on May 09, 2011, 02:24:33 pm
I haven't read the graphic novels yet. I really need to.

I stumbled at the artwork.
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Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 02:25:33 pm
Dartmouth Fett was saying how it's the official movie of the generation right after ours. Apparently Donnie Darko is ours.  :|
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Post by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 02:30:06 pm
You mean it isn't Reality Bites?  Stupid lying movie promos!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 02:33:25 pm
That would have been like 2 before us. Though directly before us I said Empire Records. We were going for like 5 year spreads. That "pivotal" movie that defined your high school graduation. For me it was totally Episode I, but I'm special.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 02:38:03 pm
For me it was the Gremlins, but I'm furry.  


and cute and adorable and I live with an old Japanese dude. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 09, 2011, 02:44:15 pm
Now I know to never feed you after midnight.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 02:53:00 pm
Whoever came up with that one should've been fired.  It's ALWAYS after midnight.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on May 09, 2011, 03:33:47 pm
That would have been like 2 before us. Though directly before us I said Empire Records. We were going for like 5 year spreads. That "pivotal" movie that defined your high school graduation. For me it was totally Episode I, but I'm special.

I graduated high school in 1993.  Our film was Linklater's Slacker.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: *GrumpButt* on May 09, 2011, 05:07:50 pm
Unfortunately it seems like the only movies that I can sit and watch, that keep my attention, are bright and shiny animated flicks.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2011, 05:10:13 pm
Unfortunately it seems like the only movies that I can sit and watch, that keep my attention, are bright and shiny animated flicks.

Animated or anime?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: *GrumpButt* on May 09, 2011, 05:12:24 pm
More animated than Anime.

Wait does Pokemon count? I Loves me some Pokemon.

I think the problem is that my attn span can't stay connected to the screen unless there is something bright and shiny moving around on it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2011, 05:17:43 pm
Unfortunately it seems like the only movies that I can sit and watch, that keep my attention, are bright and shiny animated flicks.

You can't go wrong with most of the Pixar movies.  The only one I didn't really care for all that much was Cars.  I thought Up and Wall-E were both pretty good.  I really liked Wall-E for the fact that it was able to tell a good portion of its story without any dialogue.  I would really like to see them take a crack at a modern-day silent-film. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: *GrumpButt* on May 09, 2011, 05:22:07 pm
Unfortunately it seems like the only movies that I can sit and watch, that keep my attention, are bright and shiny animated flicks.

You can't go wrong with most of the Pixar movies.  The only one I didn't really care for all that much was Cars.  I thought Up and Wall-E were both pretty good.  I really liked Wall-E for the fact that it was able to tell a good portion of its story without any dialogue.  I would really like to see them take a crack at a modern-day silent-film. 

Year Cars ehhh.. Love Wall-E. It is an awesome movie.   Up was great too.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 10, 2011, 06:14:23 am
Saw Thor, didnt suck.

I thought it looked horrid from the previews so i went in preparing to suffer, but was good. not SUPER AWESOME BEST EVAR tho.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: *GrumpButt* on May 10, 2011, 07:19:52 pm
MegaMind.

Just saw that..   

 :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 10, 2011, 07:53:01 pm
I'm watching Dangerous Beauty for the 100,000th time. My final paper is on a book by Veronica Franco...It's research. I swear.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 18, 2011, 05:30:03 pm
BLISTERING BARNACLES

This year is going to be the release of Tintin.  Don't screw it up, Spielberg.  Herge is one of the all time comic greats.  I still haven't forgiven Frank Miller for what he did to Will Eisner's creation with his movie of The Spirit.

Hugo Cabret is also coming out this year.  I'm probably more excited about that than anything currently on the horizon.  Fully 3D, done by Martin Scorcese, and based on the absolutely incredible children's book by Brian Selznick (yeah, of the David O Selznick family).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on May 18, 2011, 05:30:52 pm
Saw "Kill The Irishman" last night.

Fairly enjoyable.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on May 18, 2011, 08:39:07 pm
Watched 'Priest' Sunday.

Spent most of the movie cracking jokes to my GF.

It had 'LOL STEAMPUNK PLASTIC STUFF' in it.

But vampire's weren't sparkly, and DIED!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 19, 2011, 12:05:49 am
DF just saw that. It said it didn't suck.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on May 19, 2011, 01:37:48 am
DF just saw that. It said it didn't suck.

It didn't suck. It just isn't super awesome either. I'd give it 7.5/10.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 19, 2011, 12:12:21 pm
Yeah that's what he said too. He saw it in 2D and said it was decent for what it was.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on May 19, 2011, 02:10:12 pm
Saw Pirate of the Caribbean 3D for free on Monday night. 

It was the most boring piece of shit I have seen in a long time.

Even Ian McShane couldn't save it... he seemed embarrassed to be there.  I went home and watched Deadwood... it was much more satisfying.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 19, 2011, 02:11:32 pm
Saw Pirate of the Caribbean 3D for free on Monday night. 

It was the most boring piece of shit I have seen in a long time.

Even Ian McShane couldn't save it... he seemed embarrassed to be there.  I went home and watched Deadwood... it was much more satisfying...cocksucker.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 19, 2011, 02:11:59 pm
Saw Pirate of the Caribbean 3D for free on Monday night.  

It was the most boring piece of shit I have seen in a long time.

Even Ian McShane couldn't save it... he seemed embarrassed to be there.  I went home and watched Cocksuckers... it was much more satisfying.

fixed...


edit: wait...fucking EOC!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on May 19, 2011, 02:18:59 pm
Saw Pirate of the Caribbean 3D for free on Monday night.  

It was the most boring piece of shit I have seen in a long time.

Even Ian McShane couldn't save it... he seemed embarrassed to be there.  I went home and watched Cocksuckers... it was much more satisfying.

fixed...


edit: wait...fucking EOC!


 :lulz:

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on May 19, 2011, 02:21:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpsKKPuTYCI

"I'm glad I taught you that word."
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 06:52:24 am
Does anyone know of any good movies that are out right now? I have a movie date on Monday and I have no idea.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 26, 2011, 08:53:20 am
Pirates is fun, if peppered full of plot holes.
Insidious is scary until the last half hour at which point it goes to shit.
That's all I've seen of the recent crop.
If source code is still in though I doubt it is, it was excellent.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:55:56 am
Insidious lost me the moment astral projection came into play.

There is simply no way to make astral projection scary, not now or ever.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 26, 2011, 09:24:16 am
What's scary is trying to come up with a reasonable explanation as to why the writer and director ever thought it could be a good idea to put that in. It felt way too similar to the climax of Poltergeist, but executed in a really shitty and derivative way.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: on May 26, 2011, 11:42:21 am
Insidious lost me the moment astral projection came into play.

There is simply no way to make astral projection scary, not now or ever.

Ever tried ketamine?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2011, 12:54:39 pm
Does anyone know of any good movies that are out right now? I have a movie date on Monday and I have no idea.

Bridesmaids is kind of funny, for a given value of Kristen Wiig. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:06:53 pm
Isidious lost me as soon as the blinky red letters came on at the beginning

that is seriously the worst movie i have ever seen
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on May 26, 2011, 08:34:24 pm
Isidious lost me as soon as the blinky red letters came on at the beginning

that is seriously the worst movie i have ever seen
:lulz:

Also, nice avatar, Fred.  :D
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2011, 03:19:20 am
"Source Code" is still playing at Fox Towers! I will look up Bridesmaids, though holy shit I might have a hard time convincing him on that one.

Thanks for the suggestions!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on May 28, 2011, 07:26:19 pm
I liked "The Priest"--it was comic book-y, like most movies made from graphic novels can be, but still good enough for special effectiveness.  Pirates was Pirates--I heart Johnny Depp, no matter what shit role he's in, and there was enough wanking dialogue to keep you smirking if not belly-laughing.  And it was a good summer movie to take my kidlets to.

I tend to watch movies like Bridesmaids at home unless I'm on a "girls night out" and that's what the other chicks wanna see.  I like seeing the shoot-em-up ones on the big screen for effect.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 28, 2011, 07:38:43 pm
I'm just back from Hanna, its excellent.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on May 28, 2011, 07:41:42 pm
My kid and husband saw that--looked kickass.  I think it's out of our theaters by now, though. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2011, 08:45:33 pm
I'm just back from Hanna, its excellent.

Thanks Faust! Did you think it was as good as Source Code? Better? Those are currently the movies on my list of contenders.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 28, 2011, 09:20:42 pm
Yes its better then source code. Not that source code is bad, but Hanna is more polished, I won't say more if you're going to see either of them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2011, 09:50:53 pm
Yes its better then source code. Not that source code is bad, but Hanna is more polished, I won't say more if you're going to see either of them.

Awesome, thank you! :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on May 29, 2011, 12:07:26 am
Why do Russian films have some guy talking over the audio track instead of subs? :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on May 29, 2011, 08:37:46 am
Just finished watching Earnest Scared Stupid.
Brilliant.
It has Eartha Kitt and one of the best canine actors I've ever seen.
Would watch again.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jasper on May 29, 2011, 09:51:59 am
I remember liking that, but I don't remember what was in it.  Time to rewatch.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 29, 2011, 06:42:02 pm
We ended up deciding on Thor 3D.  :lol:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on May 29, 2011, 07:29:42 pm
Still haven't seen that. Hope it was good.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 29, 2011, 07:32:33 pm
Still haven't seen that. Hope it was good.

Date's tomorrow... I'll post about it here after.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 03, 2011, 09:12:16 am
Just watched Rango.  They should have subtitled it: "this is how you do an existentialist film, Inception-tards."

Funnier, as well.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 03, 2011, 09:23:30 am
I saw X-men last night, Visually it looks amazing. I love the sixties fashion and decor. The action scenes were all well thought out uses of the characters powers and the CGI looked well which can really kill the suspension of disbelief for these kind of films. The plot was decent, if a little flimsy in places but overall this is the best comic book film in a long time.


My only main beef with the film is a spoiler so look away now and it is that in the climax of the film Michael Fassbender's accent switches into a thick Northern Irish accent, it's so jarring it kind of ruins the scene especially because it is so out of nowhere. In fact it happens immediately after he puts on the magneto helmet so perhaps its some kind of cursed RPG item: Helm of psychic resistance, curse: ridiculous accent.


In short even though this is far from a perfect film, even in the weaker parts everyone looks fabulous so a lot can be forgiven.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on June 22, 2011, 02:14:45 pm
No discussion of Inception?

This makes me sad....

I liked this review of Inception

Quote
The cinematic progenitor of Christopher Nolan's new movie, Inception, is the catastrophically ridiculous Robin Williams vehicle, What Dreams May Come. What it lacks in goofy black guardian angels, it makes up for in its grotesquely impoverished view of the human imagination. Empowered to create one's own reality, the best that anyone can do in What Dreams is plop themselves into your secretary's Best-of-the-Impressionists wall calendar. But Chris Nolan and cinematographer Wally Pfister--and really, was there ever a more apropos name?--can't even manage Monet. The visual experience of Inception left me with the distinct impression that I had been drugged by a circa-1999 Tom Ford for Gucci ad and then mercilessly date-raped by his shiny partner, a Lexus commercial. I kept expecting "The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection" to dash across the screen in some boldly sans-serif font. I kept expecting the lease options.

The setup of Inception is supposed to be a brain-teaser. Leonardo DiCaprio and his Jerry Bruckheimer band of specialists (The Chemist, the Forger, the Architect . . . Oh, Lord) invade people's dreams and steal their ideas, or in the case of the central action in this instance, plant a bug of a new idea in someone's brain. Here, they are trying to convince the sharp-jawed, Savile-row scion of some kind of Charles Foster Kane energy executive that what he really wants to do is break up his dad's monopoly. This all has something to do with Ken Watanabe, who runs a rival company? Whatever. The movie doesn't care. Because the fundamental conflict that drives the entire narrative is so hastily and poorly sketched, the dour, totalitarian porentousness of the proceedings seems more than a tad overwrought. Well, this is Christopher Nolan, after all, who played a story about a man who dresses up like a bat in order to karate-chop Bond villians with a straighter face than a community-theater production of Lear, so I'm not sure what else I expected. Inception trips in at well over two hours, which according to the exhaustively-repeated conceit of the film itself is well over a billion years of dream-time, and it contains a single joke. I counted. It involved Joseph Gordon-Levitt, whose high, tight ass is the only thing I recall fondly of my wasted time in the theater, and Ellen Page sharing a brief kiss, and the whole movie seems ashamed of it. This is serious.

Anyway, the differing speed of the passage of time is just a part of the larger conceit, which is that not only can Leonardo et al. invade dreams, but that by descending into ever-deeper states of unconsciousness, they can concoct dreams-within-dreams. Even as action/scifi fare this is pretty thin gruel, and since Nolan insists on cluttering the goings-on with pages and pages of expository dialogue full of crackpot ontology and two-joint epistemological impoderables, the whole edifice reeks faintly of the ridiculous. In his silly but entertaining Existenz, which had the misfortune to come out opposite The Matrix, Croneberg managed with much greater ease and humor to trip the lysergical-acidic borders of multiple mind-states and alternate consciousness. In Inception, dreams sit neatly within dreams like Matryoshka dolls, everything just-so, ascent and descent symbolized by Leonardo DiCaprio's rickety dream-elevator (no, really), which, obviously, plies a linear path from top to bottom. By the way, this constant mentioning of other movies is intentional. Inception is the most derivative film ever made, so shameless in its cribbing that you'd think it were meant as pastiche, except for its relentless, monotonous self-seriousness.

The characters in Inception keep asking each other if they remember how they got there, there being here, or there, or where they are, or whatever, the point being that “in a dream,” three words repeated with talismanic frequency, as if the filmmakers thought we might forget, you only ever find yourself in media res, with no recollection of how you arrived at the bar, so to speak. It was a familiar feeling. As the movie dragged into its third hour, I began to feel something similar myself. How did I get here? and, Please let this all be a dream. The punishing score, which Hans Zimmer ripped off from Eyes Wide Shut, drones at merciless volume throughout, and by the time Joseph Gordon-Levitt was floating around weightlessly and everyone else was attacking Cobra Commander's arctic lair (no, really), I thought I might burst an eardrum. Ellen Page, who sometime in the first hour demonstrated a remarkable capacity to fold dream-Paris back on itself and generally bend reality like Neo meets MC Escher is along for the ride, but doesn't actully do anything once the action gets underway, other than harrass DiCaprio for imprisonining his memory of his dead wife in, um, the basement? In the hotel room where she committed suicide. Jesus Christ, Nolan, eat a fucking muffin. Schindler's List had more laughs. By the way, the wife-in-the-limbo-of-her-own-imagining, that too is ripped off from What Dreams May Come. Inception isn't a movie. It's an exquisite corpse. A mash-up.

The visual effects have been widely praised, but I found them dull and uninspired. The whole film is flat, colorless, and corporate. My dreams are a lot less Prada and a lot more Alexander McQueen, if you know what I'm saying. Everything is shot at flat angles, and the interminable gun battles and hallway fisticuffs are filmed with so much quick-cutting that you can't tell who's punching whom or shooting what, especially in the big alpine shootout (ripped off from about seven different Bond numbers, the opening of True Lies, Ice Station Zebra, etc.), where everyone, good and bad alike, is dressed in identical white parkas and face masks! The Matrix was dumb, but it was true to its comic-book-meets-kung-fu aesthetic and actually gave us a few full karate chops before the camera cut away, and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, whose wire-based aerial combat is also ripped off, was filmed almost entirely in balletic long-shot. Well, everyone's metallic threads glint and do not wrinkle, the men wear spread collars, and Marion Cotillard wanders around wondering what she's doing here, especially as the strains of Je ne regrette rien keep rising in the ghostly background. I would take this as a quirky, metafictive joke, except this is a Christopher Nolan movie, and the rare joke sticks out like Spock at the Funnybone.

I suppose I could list the other movies and moviemakers that Nolan shamelessly rips off. The Wizard of Oz. Miyazaki. Michael Mann. Oh, why bother. Inception is dull, overlong, sexless, and unimaginative. It is a $200 million car commercial, a glossy magazine photo. You give yourself license to create whole worlds from the stuff of pure consciousness, and the best you can come up with is a corner café in Paris and the generic cityscape of Gotham City? Christopher Nolan, you are ripping off your own stupid movies! "If you die this deep, you'll end up in limbo," DiCaprio warns. Oh, let's repeat the adverb. Portentously. Pass me the pistol, brother. I'm going in.

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2010/07/deception.html

:mittens:

wow that review is pretty much right on ALL accounts.

-  Joseph Gordon-Levitt is the only good thing about the movie
-  the movie is so much derivative, based on so many other movies, but manages to do it worse than every one of them--the reviewer forgot to mention Mirrormask, btw.
-  the imagination of the dreamscapes was indeed rather bland and disappointing (not even an avalanche scene could save them, WTF)
- etc


I still haven't seen it yet, and will definitely see it once it is out on DVD, but I must admit, after several people telling me it was "good, but not that good" after seeing it, I don't hold as high hopes as I originally did when I discovered the premise of the film.

It sounds like the dreamscape premise is nothing more than excuse for wicked awesome special effects, which is sad.  If they had applied some thought to it, like doing the different layers of dreaming in such a way that you didn't know how far you had slipped down, that you could get carried away by the dream itself, that strange and irrational things would sometimes arise that could cause problems for the main characters, things like that, it could've been very cool.  And what happens when they break into the mind of a lucid dreamer?  I'd imagine they would be fucked, since that person could pretty much do whatever they liked to them within the dream.  Or they broke into someone's mind and they weren't in REM sleep at that moment.  Some cool things could be done with the difference in time between the dream world and the real world.  And perhaps to be the kind of person who breaks into peoples dreams, you'd need certain psychological attributes, or to lack them.  What if those who broke into dreams never had dreams themselves, only a kind of REM sleep that involved being more deeply unconscious?  How would that effect them?

See, I've already made the premise a thousand times more interesting and I've only had one coffee so far today.

Saw it on cable last night.  There were explosions.

[Spolier]

Did anyone else figure out in the first five minutes that the so-called "real world" was just another one of Leo's dreams?  I even muttered "I read too much Philip K Dick" out loud when the action moved from the pagoda to Tunisia.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 02:46:50 pm
My mother figured out it was a dream within a dream, and she wasn't even watching the film.  She was checking her emails and barely even looked at the TV.

Also, going to watch Sucker Punch either tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: bds on June 22, 2011, 02:49:55 pm
My mother figured out it was a dream within a dream, and she wasn't even watching the film.  She was checking her emails and barely even looked at the TV.

Also, going to watch Sucker Punch either tonight or tomorrow.

the Extended Edition? if it's not, I would be tempted to say not to bother - I watched the pg-13 cut for cinema Snyder had to make to get it past the MPAA without them giving it an R and it was mediocre at best. downloaded the Extended Cut last night, a lot of people I've seen have said that it's a lot better than the cinema one
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 02:54:08 pm
I don't know.  Is the one with most seeds on TPB currently the extended edition?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: bds on June 22, 2011, 03:06:51 pm
it's not, no. i'm not sure if the extended cut was even released on DVD, so if it isn't at least a 720p rip it probably isn't. the non-extended one is still worth a watch, btw, but if you have the option i'd try and get hold of the extended cut
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 03:08:47 pm
Alright, I'll keep it in mind if this does not entertain.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 22, 2011, 03:27:41 pm

Also, going to watch Sucker Punch either tonight or tomorrow.

Condolences, its awful. The arbitrary action scenes are pretty though.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 03:30:07 pm
Snyder is usually pretty good for that, if nothing else (usually that and nothing else).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on June 22, 2011, 06:02:19 pm
I saw X-men last night, Visually it looks amazing. I love the sixties fashion and decor. The action scenes were all well thought out uses of the characters powers and the CGI looked well which can really kill the suspension of disbelief for these kind of films. The plot was decent, if a little flimsy in places but overall this is the best comic book film in a long time.


My only main beef with the film is a spoiler so look away now and it is that in the climax of the film Michael Fassbender's accent switches into a thick Northern Irish accent, it's so jarring it kind of ruins the scene especially because it is so out of nowhere. In fact it happens immediately after he puts on the magneto helmet so perhaps its some kind of cursed RPG item: Helm of psychic resistance, curse: ridiculous accent.


In short even though this is far from a perfect film, even in the weaker parts everyone looks fabulous so a lot can be forgiven.

Aside from the problem of Kevin Bacon being completely unbelievable?

I mean really Kevin Bacon?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 22, 2011, 11:53:07 pm
He was really good as sebastian shaw, but poor as a nazi.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on June 23, 2011, 04:28:16 am
Sucker Punch


RAGE
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 23, 2011, 07:20:46 am
Anyways. I finally saw Kick Ass today. It was good, not quite what I expected, which I think was more humor. It actually gets quite serious and violent, which was a nice spin.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World, however, is now probably in my top 10 movies of all time. It's fucking amazing.
Saw both of those within a month of each other.

1) Hit Girl is the single best character in the history of motion pictures. Anyone who disagrees gets cut.

2) Scott Pilgrim was incredible. I need to watch it again because I know I missed a bunch of the references the first time.

3) Don't know if it was mentioned in this thread yet, but Wristcutters is an excellent movie. The ending pissed me off for reasons that I cannot explain without giving away the whole plot.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 23, 2011, 07:32:53 am
Also, "Exit Through the Gift Shop" is one of the best mindfuck movies ever. Go see it right now! Especially you, Cramulus.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 23, 2011, 07:44:55 am
So, the ending to Suckerpunch is pretty obvious.  Without giving too much away, it became a near-certainty for me the first time Baby Doll danced, because once you open the door to that kind of thing, you've opened it to happening before and no-one actually realizing it.

Apart from that it seemed a rather contrived effort to get Emily Browning into a school uniform and explain why she's killing Zombie Robot Orc Nazis dressed that way.  Though I liked the backdrop to the WWI scene.  That was pretty good.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on June 23, 2011, 09:59:04 pm
So, the ending to Suckerpunch

HATE
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 23, 2011, 10:36:57 pm

Apart from that it seemed a rather contrived effort to get Emily Browning into a school uniform and explain why she's killing Zombie Robot Orc Nazis dressed that way.  Though I liked the backdrop to the WWI scene.  That was pretty good.

That was my favourite random action scene too. He shouldn't have tried to shoehorn in a plot, if everything but those sequences had been removed the movie would have been a lot better paced and a fairly consistent story.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 24, 2011, 05:49:00 am
just dled the extended version. havent seen the original
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on June 24, 2011, 08:37:29 pm
I took myself to see it in the movie theater after the build up over it on this site.  I expected to be severely underwhelmed, and therefore was pleasantly pleased. I like to save my forays into the actual movie theater for the action movies (rom coms, comedies and the like are just fine on my "small screen" at home), and I wasn't underwhelmed by my choice in watching this one all blown up with large booming sounds.  The plot was eh, but I went to watch boom boom cha cha cha, not some deep philosophical film.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 24, 2011, 10:54:51 pm
im 18 min in and its retarded.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 25, 2011, 01:32:56 am
yeaaahhh that was horrible....the action scenes were just as bad as the rest of it. i feel like my brain just died.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on June 25, 2011, 01:55:52 am
WHAT?!?!?!?!

Eh. I loved the action scenes.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 25, 2011, 05:29:27 pm

Apart from that it seemed a rather contrived effort to get Emily Browning into a school uniform and explain why she's killing Zombie Robot Orc Nazis dressed that way.  Though I liked the backdrop to the WWI scene.  That was pretty good.

That was my favourite random action scene too. He shouldn't have tried to shoehorn in a plot, if everything but those sequences had been removed the movie would have been a lot better paced and a fairly consistent story.

Or, alternatively:

In Alternative Steampunk WWI era England, a crack team of anarchist Suffragettes are sent to prison for a crime they probably committed (and it was awesome).  Meanwhile, in Germany, the forerunners of Nazi occultists and German engineers come up with a plan to win the war - reanimating killed German soldiers and sending them to the front.  Cue MacGuffin plot of German scientist/facility/general that needs to be killed to stop the reanimation process.   Suicide squad is prepared for the mission, and picked from prison.  Vague talk of giving the women the vote once the war is over.  Then ACTION!

It took me exactly three minutes to come up with this plot.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 25, 2011, 05:59:56 pm

Apart from that it seemed a rather contrived effort to get Emily Browning into a school uniform and explain why she's killing Zombie Robot Orc Nazis dressed that way.  Though I liked the backdrop to the WWI scene.  That was pretty good.

That was my favourite random action scene too. He shouldn't have tried to shoehorn in a plot, if everything but those sequences had been removed the movie would have been a lot better paced and a fairly consistent story.

Or, alternatively:

In Alternative Steampunk WWI era England, a crack team of anarchist Suffragettes are sent to prison for a crime they probably committed (and it was awesome).  Meanwhile, in Germany, the forerunners of Nazi occultists and German engineers come up with a plan to win the war - reanimating killed German soldiers and sending them to the front.  Cue MacGuffin plot of German scientist/facility/general that needs to be killed to stop the reanimation process.   Suicide squad is prepared for the mission, and picked from prison.  Vague talk of giving the women the vote once the war is over.  Then ACTION!

It took me exactly three minutes to come up with this plot.
And that's probably how long Snyder spent thinking about the whole movie, except for the boom boom bits.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: bds on June 25, 2011, 06:11:38 pm
I watched the extended version last night -- I actually feel like it made the movie a whole lot better. I'm still not gunna say it was a fantastic movie, but I think that the extended scenes really help the plot, especially as a lot of them help to improve the "mirroring" between the "levels" (for example the sex scene that got cut out - the dialogue is referring to the lobotomy but also to sex). also more action is always cool. oh and i forgot how much I adore the soundtrack.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on June 26, 2011, 05:26:34 pm
Okay, I'm finally getting Sucker Punch.

It's time I see how bad this shit really is.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on June 28, 2011, 04:37:47 am
IS THAT A B-17 FLYING AROUND A CASTLE WITH LOTR ORCS IN IT?

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 28, 2011, 05:22:42 am
one of the worst movies i have ever seen is what this is
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on June 28, 2011, 05:36:32 am
The only thing I got from Sucker Punch is that mental patients who dress like hookers in Times Square circa 1985 have delusions of Moulin Rouge gone Sin City with clockwork panzermensch going down in FPS style (seriously, I thought I was playing COD). There was very little plot, and in the end, she loses her fucking brain anyway.

If anything, the last half hour made it almost worth it, but the first hour and half was relatively boring. Visually sparkly, but boring. The anticlimax couldn't fix it for me.

This movie was designed for gamer boys to jack off to. Not for anything else.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on July 10, 2011, 04:24:59 am
Netflix has the entire first seasons of the original He-Man and She-Ra shows.

I'm glued....and remarkably surprised that I remember the character names.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 10, 2011, 04:27:53 am
She-Ra was always the better show, but when I was a boy I could never admit it
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on July 10, 2011, 04:36:30 am
It's far more violent too. Hordak is far nastier than Skeletor, but Skeletor just outright wins cool points for BEING Skeletor so...

That and this gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqCzXbDtlY
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on July 10, 2011, 05:13:45 pm
So, last week I saw Transformers: Dark of the Moon, and it was terrible. I wasn't surprised, I was expecting it to be bad. The only reason I went to see it was so I could legitimately talk shit about it. But, god, was it bad (surprisingly, though, it was NOT as bad as the last TF movie). The two redeeming factors were the opening sequence, which really made the concept of space travel look good and desirable, and the best part: THIS IS THE LAST TF MOVIE! Now hopefully my hobby returns back to "normal."

Related: I saw TF:DOTM in 3d. However, about halfway through the movie (about an hour and change) I feel like the 3d stopped working. Almost like my brain outsmarted the optical illusion of the 3d, and I saw the remainder of the movie as 2d. Is this just me, or is it possible to build a "tolerance" to 3d?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on July 10, 2011, 05:26:52 pm
I took myself to "Bad Teacher" the other day because I wanted to escape the heat and I had folks working on the house and wanted to be out of their way.

Mistake.  Total waste of money, reminding me and reinforcing yet again why I don't see rom-coms on othe big screen.  They can wait till they come out on HBO or some shit.

Gah.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on July 10, 2011, 05:27:40 pm
I had that with just about every 3D movie I saw so far (I think I saw 3 or 4 3D movies yet).

After half an hour or so, I barely notice it's 3D anymore.

If I pay attention I can see there's depth in the image, but it's just not like it makes any difference anymore, or something.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on July 10, 2011, 05:38:36 pm
3D is just a way to jack up the costs of an already-very-expensive form of entertainment.  I don't bother with it.  For the very reasons you stated.  After the initial ooh-ah it just becomes something you're used to.

IMAX is more worth it for action films, imo.  The bigger the screen, the better.  But 3D?  fogeddaboudit.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on July 10, 2011, 07:03:15 pm
I've seen a few 3D films.  It was pretty well done for Up, which was a good movie on its own, and Avatar, which was only worth watching for the effect like its 3D.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on July 11, 2011, 02:28:26 am
Saw Pontypool without knowing anything about it. I liked it (but the bar is so low these days).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioAk3EfZMAg
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on July 13, 2011, 06:32:49 am
13 Assassins - Wait for it.. wait for it.. no really, this is plot, and we're only showing you 12 samurai so just fucking wait for it will you!!!


*breathed deeply... ok first half over.. some fucked up shit there, no spoilers*


And then, I saw over 200+ feudal Japanese people DIE, in a little under an hour. Some of the best mass-melee combat I've ever seen on film, and the tactics.. HOLYSHIT, are those oxen On Fire (down goes another squad of 6 spearmen)!!!

I was goddessDAMNed meta-traumatized by AN ENTIRE GENRE.




fuck... seriously... traumatized... if you have PTSD, I'd only watch it in pieces.


and then I had to watch it again, because the first time through my girlfriend fell asleep right when the action started, and I didn't notice for about 20 minutes and had by that point decided there was no way I wasn't seeing how this fucking eschaton of a blood bath ended.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2011, 09:54:21 am
13 Assassins is amazing.  That's how you do a Samurai film, you post-1960s fucks.

And how long is that final battle?  40 minutes?  An hour?  It seems like forever, but in a good way.

Also, there was some extremely disturbing shit in that first hour.  The woman without arms and legs....that's an image that doesn't fade easily.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on July 13, 2011, 04:56:43 pm
Yup :shiver:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2011, 01:27:37 am
Now watching Source Code.  Only half an hour in, but I'm enjoying it so far.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on July 16, 2011, 04:51:58 pm
Saw Hannibal Rising last night.  Fucking creepy.  But still did a good job, storywise, if piecing together how Lecter became such a psychotic freakazoid.

Have to say, zombie movies have gone a LONG WAY to immunizing me to the YUCKHELLNAW factor of cannibalism.

Also saw the new X-Men movie the other day at the theater.  It wasn't half-bad, actually.  I enjoyed it. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on July 16, 2011, 04:57:22 pm
I also watched X-Men: First Class last night.

Not bad.  Not brilliant, but by the standards of the genre and the series as a whole (ie; abysmal) it was pretty good.  Plus it allowed them to re-use sets and costumes from Austin Powers, and we should promote recycling.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on July 16, 2011, 05:03:25 pm
:lol:  Strangely enough, I did watch most of the Goldmember Austin Powers movie yesterday as well.  The part with Fat Bastard always cracks me up.

"What?! I didn't have any CORN!"
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2011, 12:07:08 am
So, I'm home, all alone.  It's just past midnight.  I'm debating whether to watch Event Horizon or not.  Old film, I know, but one of the few horror films I actually find both scary and disturbing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on July 18, 2011, 12:12:54 am
I'm thinking I need to see 13 Assassins very soon.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on July 18, 2011, 01:41:44 am
So, I'm home, all alone.  It's just past midnight.  I'm debating whether to watch Event Horizon or not.  Old film, I know, but one of the few horror films I actually find both scary and disturbing.

If that's the one I'm thinking of (Aliens meets Lovecraft), I wouldn't watch it at home alone at noon, much less at midnight.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on July 18, 2011, 01:46:48 am
Youtube has all of the episodes of Gundam Wing, full length, posted through the Anime Channel. It's the Bandai dub, but it made me feel like a 17 year old Trowa Barton fangirl again so...fuck you all.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on July 18, 2011, 01:54:31 am
So, I'm home, all alone.  It's just past midnight.  I'm debating whether to watch Event Horizon or not.  Old film, I know, but one of the few horror films I actually find both scary and disturbing.

If that's the one I'm thinking of (Aliens meets Lovecraft), I wouldn't watch it at home alone at noon, much less at midnight.

That's the one.  You know they actually deleted a number of scenes, for being too disturbing?  They can be found on Youtube, though there are constant threats of a Director's Cut being released, some day.  I'm debating whether I want to see them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on July 18, 2011, 04:20:48 am
Dude--of COURSE you do. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on July 18, 2011, 04:31:56 am
So, I'm home, all alone.  It's just past midnight.  I'm debating whether to watch Event Horizon or not.  Old film, I know, but one of the few horror films I actually find both scary and disturbing.

If that's the one I'm thinking of (Aliens meets Lovecraft), I wouldn't watch it at home alone at noon, much less at midnight.

That's the one.  You know they actually deleted a number of scenes, for being too disturbing?  They can be found on Youtube, though there are constant threats of a Director's Cut being released, some day.  I'm debating whether I want to see them.

Holy crap...  I did not know that.

If this comes out, I will need at least one volunteer to watch this with... and probably sleep over to shake me out of the screaming nightmare.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 14, 2011, 07:09:00 pm
Caught 13 Assassins last night after reading about it in this thread.  I very, very impressed with it.  Scenery porn, shots that alternate between gruesome and breathtaking, some that are even breathtakingly gruesome.

What was even more impressive was that this was the same guy who directed fucking Ichi:  The Killer, which was one of the most over the top, violent, and TERRIBLE Japanese movies I've seen.  It made sense why some of the earlier scenes were so disturbing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 14, 2011, 07:12:54 pm
OFUK IS THIS THERAD.


YOUVE DONE IT NOW MAN, NIGEL'S GONNA ACCIEDNTLY ON PRUPOSE!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 14, 2011, 07:39:45 pm
:crankey:

ACTUALLY, MAYBE THIS TIME THIS THREAD WILL FIX MY LIFE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on August 14, 2011, 07:58:51 pm
Super 8 is a load of ol' rubbish.
don't bother.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2011, 08:04:37 pm
Yeah, I wasn't especially impressed either.  Seems like both Spielberg and Abrams are just playing to their past successes, with all of the lack of originality that it implies.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 14, 2011, 08:20:53 pm
Watched "The Greatest Movie Ever Sold" last night. Not as good as I hoped. It lacked any kind of edge, and it seemed, to me, anyway, to not have much of an actual angle. Though, the one part when they showed a country that banned all public advertisements (for the life of me, can't remember which country, ATM) was really cool. Sort of surreal to see what a city ACTUALLY looks like underneath all the billboards.

Also, broke out "Shaolin Soccer" the other day for the first time in a while. Great movie. Good times.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: wudgar on August 14, 2011, 08:42:26 pm
Naked Lunch

Burn, Hollywood Burn

RHPS

Fear and Loathing
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on August 14, 2011, 09:19:59 pm
Watched a whole bunch of films by a Finnish guy called Aki Kaurismaki and they were all about people getting laid off in tough times. All of them.

They would be depressing if they didn't each have a positive message.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2011, 09:23:17 pm
Watched a whole bunch of films by a Finnish guy called Aki Kaurismaki and they were all about people getting laid off in tough times. All of them.

They would be depressing if they didn't each have a positive message.

That sounds pretty much what I'd expect from Finland.  Tough times and depression.  And vodka.  Perhaps the occasional beserk Russian.

Anything in particular you'd recommend?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on August 14, 2011, 10:10:12 pm
I enjoyed Drifting Clouds, Ariel, and The Man Without a Past the most.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2011, 10:10:44 pm
Thanks.  I'll look into them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on August 14, 2011, 10:47:34 pm
just saw "Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel", british comedy film with the guy from IT crowd (not Moss from my avatar, the other one), was pretty good :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Gordon C on August 15, 2011, 02:01:57 am
:crankey:

ACTUALLY, MAYBE THIS TIME THIS THREAD WILL FIX MY LIFE.


That was a pivotal moment in the life of this thread.
 :lulz:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 15, 2011, 04:39:51 am
:crankey:

ACTUALLY, MAYBE THIS TIME THIS THREAD WILL FIX MY LIFE.

THREAD REDEEMED!  :jebus:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: President Television on August 15, 2011, 04:58:35 am
So I just watched Event Horizon.
I didn't find it scary or disturbing at all. I think it's because I saw this before I watched the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzYR4IQ_kM
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 15, 2011, 05:02:26 am
So I just watched Event Horizon.
I didn't find it scary or disturbing at all. I think it's because I saw this before I watched the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzYR4IQ_kM

 :lol:

Yeah, that'd probably do it.  Nightmare retardant, right there.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 15, 2011, 03:00:01 pm
Green Lantern.

Worth watching if you like, have never seen a superhero movie before.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on August 15, 2011, 10:16:39 pm
Green Lantern.

Worth watching if you like, have never seen a superhero movie before.

I saw the trailers of both Green Lantern and Cpt America when I was in the cinema to watch (groan) Harry Potter.

Green Lantern definitely seemed the one that'd be more fun.

(also I watched HP cause my gf really wanted to go and the entry was only 1 euro that day [if you had a certain card]. It still sucked. Didn't help I only saw 2 and 3 sort of and 7 before. Plus the subtitles translated all the weird Harry Potter words into even weirder Dutch versions [as they are in the books], which made it terribly confusing because things I didn't know about were now referred to by two separate names)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 15, 2011, 11:06:05 pm
:lulz: The HP movies are completely merciless to anyone who isn't a dedicated fan.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 15, 2011, 11:09:26 pm
:lulz: The HP movies are completely merciless to anyone who isn't a dedicated fan.

#5 and the most recent, I actually genuinely enjoyed.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 16, 2011, 11:32:32 am
Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality has ruined that series even more than it was originally ruined for me, being an adult and all.

Because now I watch it and expect Harry to use his potions classes to build grenades and augment them with Muggle technology, and raid Voldemort's base (possibly while shouting "fire in the hole" or, more likely "doom doom doom!"), then transfigure a rock into a metric ton of C4 and collapse the place in on itself.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on August 16, 2011, 11:40:38 am
Well that's the other problem, Harry is in fact a really really boring stiff little nothing.

He doesn't really have any character at all, does he?

Hermione and whathisname only a littlebit in the first few movies but then they turn into boring flat do-good heroes as well.

It's pretty much just Snape who's somewhat interesting to watch and that's about it.

If ONLY Harry'd mumble "doom doom doom"!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 16, 2011, 11:48:28 am
All of the adult actors in the series are pretty good, really.  You can see the tedium in their eyes though, especially in the case of Alan Rickman.  I'm fairly sure years from now, when asked about why, they will, to a person, reply "money, dear boy".

And yes, Harry has a little more character in the books, but not much.  But I suspect that is so the reader can put themselves in the place of Harry as they read the book, much in the way Bella has absolutely no personality whatsoever in Twilight (except, in that case, it is because Myers is such a terrible writer than any particular plan).  And, as someone else pointed out, the conceit is that Harry is meant to be figuring out all these things in order to the fight the Dark Lord, but, quite plausibly, he was led by the nose almost the entire way by Dumbledore and Snape, and he constantly has to rely on the intervention of adults and Hermione to get anything done.

Which is pretty useless, really.

I remember there was a fan theory, popular on TV Tropes, that linked into the above.  Harry was not the chosen one at all, Nigel was, and Harry was simply schmuckbait for Voldemort, set up by Snape and Dumbledore in order to catch the Dark Lord out. That would've been a far better ending, though it probably would have felt like betrayal to the vast majority of fans.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 18, 2011, 01:20:06 pm
Anyway, back to movies.

I watched Five Days of War last night. I wished I hadn't.  I have not seen such a piece of obvious, pro-Georgian propaganda since 2008.

Short explanation: it's a film about the Russia-Georgia war in 2008.  As anyone who was paying attention knows, Georgia broke the ceasefire with a barrage of artillery into the centre of downtown Tskhinvali, killing hundreds of civilians and quite a few internationally-approved Russian peacekeepers beside.  Georgian Special Forces swiftly followed the attack, crossing the border and engaging in firefights against South Ossetian Internal Security and attempting to blow up bridges which would allow Russian forces to intervene.

Naturally, the Russophobic western press therefore decided Russia started the war.   And this atrocious propaganda film goes on allowing them to pretend that was the case.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 18, 2011, 06:10:37 pm
Anyway, back to movies.

I watched Five Days of War last night. I wished I hadn't.  I have not seen such a piece of obvious, pro-Georgian propaganda since 2008.

Short explanation: it's a film about the Russia-Georgia war in 2008.  As anyone who was paying attention knows, Georgia broke the ceasefire with a barrage of artillery into the centre of downtown Tskhinvali, killing hundreds of civilians and quite a few internationally-approved Russian peacekeepers beside.  Georgian Special Forces swiftly followed the attack, crossing the border and engaging in firefights against South Ossetian Internal Security and attempting to blow up bridges which would allow Russian forces to intervene.

Naturally, the Russophobic western press therefore decided Russia started the war.   And this atrocious propaganda film goes on allowing them to pretend that was the case.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dimocritus on August 18, 2011, 06:50:45 pm
Watched "The Helix... Loaded," a rather terrible Matrix spoof. It had maybe one or two actual funny moments, but throughout the film, I couldn't help but notice a fair helping of discordian imagery. A recurring motif in the film, and the most obvious, was the number five in a golden pentagon.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on August 18, 2011, 07:18:53 pm
Watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes last night. Our computer tech guy gave me a "copy" and I don't want to know where it came from.  You have to understand first, I'm a huge fan and have been since I was a kid.  I even watched the TV series, so even if it wasn't COMPLETELY AWESOME I would probably like it!  However, it is absolutely amazing.  The filming is seamless.  You can't tell where the computer takes over like you can in these types of movies. 

Characters are actually rather well written given the subject matter.  The concept is believable.  I enjoyed every minute of it.  If you are a fan, you have to see it.  If you aren't and this doesn't convert you, then you won't want to see the future movies I see coming from this one. 

Charlton would have approved of this movie, no question.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 18, 2011, 07:22:13 pm
Thinking of catching Fright Night this weekend sometime. David Tennant on the big screen!   :fap:

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on August 19, 2011, 02:36:57 am
Watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes last night. Our computer tech guy gave me a "copy" and I don't want to know where it came from.  You have to understand first, I'm a huge fan and have been since I was a kid.  I even watched the TV series, so even if it wasn't COMPLETELY AWESOME I would probably like it!  However, it is absolutely amazing.  The filming is seamless.  You can't tell where the computer takes over like you can in these types of movies. 

Characters are actually rather well written given the subject matter.  The concept is believable.  I enjoyed every minute of it.  If you are a fan, you have to see it.  If you aren't and this doesn't convert you, then you won't want to see the future movies I see coming from this one. 

Charlton would have approved of this movie, no question.

I concur. I loved it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 20, 2011, 03:46:00 pm
Rubber.


It is about a MURDEROUS TIRE.

The tire has characterization, there's a Greek style chorus, half the characters are aware they're in a movie and the other half don't seem to be and it's ABOUT A MURDEROUS CAR TIRE.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 20, 2011, 03:46:59 pm
Conan did not suck.  At all.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on August 20, 2011, 07:50:52 pm
Rise of the planet of the apes is excellent.

The first two of the old series were great and this sits nicely with them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on August 21, 2011, 01:36:39 am
I just watched Gladiator.

I love this film, but I haven't seen it in a long time.

What happens when you haven't seen it in a long time, is that you learn shit in between.

Now, I always knew that Lucilla's garb was off, but OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. I really have a problem. I seriously cannot watch a movie, albeit even one of my all-time favorites anymore, without being a nitpicking history nerd. WTF.

SCHOOL HAS RUINED MOVIES FOR ME. FOREVER.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 21, 2011, 01:47:00 am
Fright Night was a lot of fun.  Same campy vampire horror/comedy/guts spraying gore that I remember.  Good cast.  (David Tennant in tight leather pants and no shirt had NOTHING to do with me enjoying the movie.  Much.  Really.  Okay, some.)

I generally don't like remakes...  Two in two days (yeah, Conan was more a reboot than a remake, but, still), and I liked them both. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on August 21, 2011, 01:56:05 am
Oarstroker is coming out from the Cape on Tuesday for a few days, so we're going to hit the movies to see Conan. However, you said David Tennant in tight leather pants and...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on August 21, 2011, 07:01:27 am
I just watched Gladiator.

I love this film, but I haven't seen it in a long time.

What happens when you haven't seen it in a long time, is that you learn shit in between.

Now, I always knew that Lucilla's garb was off, but OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. I really have a problem. I seriously cannot watch a movie, albeit even one of my all-time favorites anymore, without being a nitpicking history nerd. WTF.

SCHOOL HAS RUINED MOVIES FOR ME. FOREVER.

With time you will be able to turn that off and enjoy movies again.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 21, 2011, 11:47:35 am
Oarstroker is coming out from the Cape on Tuesday for a few days, so we're going to hit the movies to see Conan. However, you said David Tennant in tight leather pants and...

Conan is also eye-candy.  Tough call, make him take you to both.   :D

(http://s3.media.squarespace.com/production/601182/9518293/wp-content/uploads/Jason-Momoa-as-conan.jpg)

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l871t0iM6U1qahqfqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 21, 2011, 11:50:12 am
That's not Conan, it's Khal Drogo.  Khal Drogo fanfic.   :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on August 21, 2011, 03:56:49 pm
That's not Conan, it's Khal Drogo.  Khal Drogo fanfic.   :argh!:

Your point being....?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on August 22, 2011, 01:28:14 am
Rubber.


It is about a MURDEROUS TIRE.

The tire has characterization, there's a Greek style chorus, half the characters are aware they're in a movie and the other half don't seem to be and it's ABOUT A MURDEROUS CAR TIRE.



I was going to watch that, but I'm afraid of how boring it might be.

But that seems to be one of the points.

A murderous telepathic car tire exploding people's heads might seem AWESOME AS FUCK and the movie explores the idea of how boring some AWESOME IDEA can be when it happens.

At least, that's what one of the reviews said.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 22, 2011, 01:56:04 am
There are parts where the movie drags on a bit, it's true, but that's because you, as a viewer, have become comfortable and used to the idea that a car tire is murdering people.

In a way, that's the most impressive part.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on August 23, 2011, 10:42:54 pm
Shit.  I was gonna be a RESPONSIBLE ADULT and do shit I NEED to get done tomorrow.

But nope--now I'm gonna GO TO THE MUTHAHFUCKIN MOVIES.

I even have a free pass...but I don't think it's good for new movies.  They have to be 2 weeks old.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on August 23, 2011, 11:10:27 pm
Shit.  I was gonna be a RESPONSIBLE ADULT and do shit I NEED to get done tomorrow.

But nope--now I'm gonna GO TO THE MUTHAHFUCKIN MOVIES.

I even have a free pass...but I don't think it's good for new movies.  They have to be 2 weeks old.

Go see Rise of the Planet of the Apes Jenne, trust me.  It is a great movie!  The kids will love it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on August 24, 2011, 11:41:19 pm
Conan did not suck. Just remember that it's Conan and therefore pulp fiction cheese to BEGIN with, and go with that. The fight scenes are well worth it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on August 25, 2011, 02:11:44 pm
Goin' on Friday instead--probably once by myself and then later on in the evening with everyone else.  :D  I expect to see Conan, Apes and perhaps Fright Night.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2011, 02:24:01 pm
wut

Hrmm... Maybe you're more familiar with the term "talkies?" Anyhow...

Don't think I've forgotten this, Dimo.

Revenge rides a slow horse.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: hirley0 on August 25, 2011, 03:55:05 pm
:crankey:

AC


That was a pivotal moment in the life of this thread.
 :lulz:
:fnord:

? AC v DC etc
Ac is alternating current ? eLectrons first flow in one dirrection then the other
DC is dirrect current (ONE way only } there's an E C Snyder version of an
Edison, T. (Menlo Park}?  tail about this, i've forgotten Something about
Electrocution? or the Electric chair {Like i say i 4got the details about iT.


the reason i write you here Ni? is because i get Messages from C and
so i'LL try your chanel to geT some of the Movie facts about the 1 in
1000 year event, (i caLL it the Px {or in my version the P_0 approach

Mostly its about Earth Movements, as seen in the Movies? the recent
tZnomi in Japan would be a good example, onLy that was not a fLick
more of a Maid for prime time "NightLy News" d'TAIL.

lOOKING THE STUFF over c's posts, I ASSume he is after the Retard
Pervert version of AC - DC ?/? &i guess i once knew what AC DC ment
as applied to sex. i do NOT REMember what that tail was about eaTHer

So i thought i would wRite him? here using your? (Um 6}? which i changed
to a 9 and discarded the 0 . if U do read the BS explain to him the differances
also once in a thousand Years is not per milisecond pace etc etc etc etc Etc

his AV reminds me of the flying fish tail, the ASR7 years '57&8 and SUB
service in general. Going Up & Going Down, and a few more details
that are Available on the web with SEARch Altavista i dont Google. or f or t
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: hirley0 on August 25, 2011, 04:04:10 pm
SoRRy
4got the movie in Question Home from the Hill
Robert Mitchum / Eleanor Parker
-
reaLLy i've Little interest
We PH & Me are 1/2 way thru {He RM just sliced into the Pig

anyway the Gun rack scene Reminds me of the
gun rack scene I was in the 5th as i REMember 11 or 12
Navy tbc 7:07  Soon? thats A ten four  doLL
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: hirley0 on August 27, 2011, 04:25:54 pm
I just watched G la

8/27 Returning thread to its original inTENT sorry 4InT
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2011, 07:48:16 pm
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE.  
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 27, 2011, 10:15:49 pm
Three potentially interesting films out next month: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (yes, based on the novel), Apollo 18 and Colombiana.

And by potentially interesting, I of course mean not a sequel and not based on a comic.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 27, 2011, 11:03:05 pm
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 28, 2011, 12:42:11 am
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.

THERE IS NO LOBBY WHEN IT IS A RENTAL MOVIE. :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on August 28, 2011, 01:48:08 am
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.

THERE IS NO LOBBY WHEN IT IS A RENTAL MOVIE. :argh!:

Two words

SHOVEL


TARP
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 28, 2011, 03:35:08 am
Chose a movie last night. Prince Caspian. Three hours of kids and taking animals failing and getting horribly mangled while Aslan dicks around to make some kind of intangible point about the nature of faith. Jackass lion.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on August 28, 2011, 04:26:19 am
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.

THERE IS NO LOBBY WHEN IT IS A RENTAL MOVIE. :argh!:

No.  There is, however, likely a front lawn...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on August 28, 2011, 04:31:51 am
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.

THERE IS NO LOBBY WHEN IT IS A RENTAL MOVIE. :argh!:

No.  There is, however, likely a front lawn...

Grass is immoral. Therefore there is none in Tuscon.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on August 28, 2011, 05:08:25 am
PEOPLE WHO TALK DURING MOVIES ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE LOBBY, TIED TO POSTS, GAGGED, AND FLOGGED.  

Fixd.

THERE IS NO LOBBY WHEN IT IS A RENTAL MOVIE. :argh!:

No.  There is, however, likely a front lawn...

Grass is immoral. Therefore there is none in Tuscon.

No, no.  You've got that backwards.  Grass IS moral, therefore there is none in Tucson.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2011, 05:12:46 am
Chose a movie last night. Prince Caspian. Three hours of kids and taking animals failing and getting horribly mangled while Aslan dicks around to make some kind of intangible point about the nature of faith. Jackass lion.

Never trust a Christ substitute.  That's why, once my pizza is done, I'm watching Thor.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 28, 2011, 05:33:00 am
Three potentially interesting films out next month: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (yes, based on the novel), Apollo 18 and Colombiana.

And by potentially interesting, I of course mean not a sequel and not based on a comic.

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy is one of the ones I'm excited about.  It's the director's follow up from Let the Right One In, which is one of the best movies, not just horror movies, that I've seen in a while.  It's also supposed to be the well deserved leading role for Gary Oldman that'll finally get the man the insane accolades he deserves.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2011, 05:41:04 am
Is that the Swedish director, or the English language version one?  I've seen the Swedish one, and it's brilliant, so I hope it's Tomas Alfredson.

And yeah, I noticed Gary Oldman was prominent in the trailer.  Well, good.  He does deserve a role he can truly shine in, and this sounds like the ideal film for him.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 28, 2011, 05:43:18 am
Is that the Swedish director, or the English language version one?  I've seen the Swedish one, and it's brilliant, so I hope it's Tomas Alfredson.

And yeah, I noticed Gary Oldman was prominent in the trailer.  Well, good.  He does deserve a role he can truly shine in, and this sounds like the ideal film for him.

Swedish!  The American re-release was Let Me In, by the Cloverfield guy (not JJ Abrams).  I never saw it.  It's pointless.  There's honestly no way you can improve upon the Swedish version.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on August 28, 2011, 06:02:39 am
Ooh, loved that book when I was younger. (T,T,S,S) And Smiley's People too, of course.

We saw Fright Night last night--for free...have a friend who's manager at the theater. This is the second time she let us in gratis... The movie was not bad. Enjoyed immensely! Probably mostly because it was free. And 3D...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on August 28, 2011, 06:05:10 am
Is that the Swedish director, or the English language version one?  I've seen the Swedish one, and it's brilliant, so I hope it's Tomas Alfredson.

And yeah, I noticed Gary Oldman was prominent in the trailer.  Well, good.  He does deserve a role he can truly shine in, and this sounds like the ideal film for him.

Swedish!  The American re-release was Let Me In, by the Cloverfield guy (not JJ Abrams).  I never saw it.  It's pointless.  There's honestly no way you can improve upon the Swedish version.

That's probably the best news I've had all month, then.  And yeah, I've never seen the American one, either.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Demolition_Squid on August 28, 2011, 08:17:58 am
I'm really curious to see how the movie measures up against the BBC TV series of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, which is one of my all-time favorites... I'm sure they're going to need to cut a heck of a lot to get it into movie format, but the trailer does look pretty good!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 30, 2011, 08:51:24 pm
Siiiiiighhhh

They're remaking Oldboy.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Adios on August 30, 2011, 09:01:35 pm
Three potentially interesting films out next month: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (yes, based on the novel), Apollo 18 and Colombiana.

And by potentially interesting, I of course mean not a sequel and not based on a comic.

Did you see Radio? One of the best I have seen ion quite a while.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:36:51 am
Fuck you, George Lucas.

http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/08/seriously-fuck-you-george-lucas/

For the Blu-Ray boxed set version of all six movies, Lucas again decides to fuck with the movies and change shit.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 01, 2011, 12:41:28 am
The inclusion of cut scenes didn't bother me...but that could very well be the last straw.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on September 01, 2011, 12:45:05 am
The inclusion of cut scenes didn't bother me...but that could very well be the last straw.

I hit last straw when Greedo shot first.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 01, 2011, 12:45:19 am
Okay, hold up. I just watched the clip and I'm skeptical. Lucas may be a tool, but ILM would have fixed those audio levels instead of making it sound like it was ripped off the end of Revenge of the Sith and stuck there poorly.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 01, 2011, 12:46:08 am
The inclusion of cut scenes didn't bother me...but that could very well be the last straw.

I hit last straw when Greedo shot first.

I can ignore that. I couldn't ignore the removal of Lapti Pek or losing the Ewok song.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 05, 2011, 08:26:28 am
So, I saw Attack the Block last night.  And it was pretty good.

Short synopsis: Aliens attempt to invade Earth.  Unfortunately for them, they land in south London.  Anyone who saw the riots can guess what happened next.

Americans and Canadians may have trouble understanding the main characters, I suggest having a tab open on UrbanDictionary.  Some of the dialogue strikes me as a bit 2006ish, I'm sure the lingo has moved on since then, but you can tell the scriptwriter had at least lived in the UK at some recent point.  The special effects are nothing to write home about, but because they are used sparingly, and the aliens are rarely seen in a good light (or standing still) it works out, and generally comes across better than slapping cheaply done CGI all over the place.  The acting is generally decent, given most of the cast are teenagers, and generally comes across as quite realistic, which is where half the humour in the film comes from.

7/10, I'd say, maybe 8.  Well worth a watch if you've got nothing else planned.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 05, 2011, 11:55:51 am
Sounds good! A bit like District Nine?

And I'll make sure to get English subtitles. If they're doing a lot of slang/accent, it's easier to be able to read along. Did the same with early Torchwoods, before I got used to it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 05, 2011, 12:46:38 pm
Well, not that close to District 9.  No uplifting story, no morals (except "people wont mug you if they know you're from the block").  And the humans are living in the ghetto.

It's probably closer to a zombie flick, in some ways.  Except not everyone is dead at the start, they're celebrating November 5th.  Which kinda explains the absence of police etc for most of the film, and why the setting is mostly empty.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on September 09, 2011, 05:53:18 am
Chose a movie last night. Prince Caspian. Three hours of kids and taking animals failing and getting horribly mangled while Aslan dicks around to make some kind of intangible point about the nature of faith. Jackass lion.
LOL, LEO EX MACHINA!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 09, 2011, 09:26:59 pm
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on September 09, 2011, 09:31:07 pm
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

Oh, what the fuck...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 09, 2011, 10:03:00 pm
Yeah.  I mean.  I just...yeah.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on September 10, 2011, 06:45:12 am
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

I second the WTF.



The GF and I just watched Contagion. I am not sure what I think of it yet. It scared me knowing how stupid people are and how bad it could, and then it scared me more thinking about how society could be further pushed into a police state in the aftermath.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on September 10, 2011, 07:28:52 am
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

They're remaking everything.  I predict in the next three or four years they'll be remaking The Crow.  Which, I don't know about you guys, but I think that movie is totelly orsim.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 10, 2011, 05:12:05 pm
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

I give up on movies forever.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Epimetheus on September 10, 2011, 05:19:05 pm
Goddamn, I hope it's not Johnny Depp.

(http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/johnny-depp-wonka.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Roaring Biscuit! on September 10, 2011, 07:35:18 pm
Any of you seen Taxidermia?  Watched it recently with a friend.  A man EJACULATES FIRE in the first 5 mins.  What more do you need to know?

xx
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 10, 2011, 08:21:00 pm
I don't know! But I want to know more now!! :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2011, 09:46:42 pm
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

I second the WTF.



The GF and I just watched Contagion. I am not sure what I think of it yet. It scared me knowing how stupid people are and how bad it could, and then it scared me more thinking about how society could be further pushed into a police state in the aftermath.

I've heard from more than a few people now that that is worth watching.

It's on my list.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Roaring Biscuit! on September 10, 2011, 10:12:38 pm
I don't know! But I want to know more now!! :)

It's a totally mad film, it also has big cats in it.  Not like tigers and lions.  Fuck-off MASSIVE housecats.  Owned by a retired champion speed-eater, naturally.  It's probably the single most interesting film I've watched in my life, although it's got plenty of fairly grotesque moments.  It's described as  body-horror flick.

Oh and the soundtrack is by Amon Tobin, which might not mean anything to you, but it's actually the reason me and friends saw it in the first place :P

xx

edd
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on September 11, 2011, 10:48:12 am
Contagion = Pandemic II (http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html#game), The Movie! I really hope they slipped a scene about Madagascar in there.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 11, 2011, 04:34:57 pm
I like Amon Tobin. Saw him live once, pretty sure his basslines moved my spleen a couple of inches.

I don't like body-horror much, though, so maybe I'll pass.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 01:23:08 pm
Contagion = Pandemic II (http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html#game), The Movie! I really hope they slipped a scene about Madagascar in there.

(http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/056/667/original/madagascar.gif?1277744021)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on September 12, 2011, 01:45:31 pm
I'll save a few bucks and just watch Outbreak again On Demand. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 02:11:35 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 02:18:14 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
 :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 02:33:15 pm
It is slow paced I'll admit but that is for the purpose of creating atmosphere, which it does excellently.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 02:38:23 pm
Were you stoned while watching it?




Honest question.  It would probably make it more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 02:39:41 pm
I actually wasn't.

You're goddamn right about the creepiness though.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 12, 2011, 02:53:50 pm
It is slow paced I'll admit but that is for the purpose of creating atmosphere, which it does excellently.

Something which took the Earth several hundred millions of years.

I just checked, the movie is only 72 minutes, how can that be boring? Anyway the synopsis and screenshots look cool, I'm gonna check it out.

In the category of older movies that are pretty cool, but definitely way cooler when you're stoned (I saw it in multiple sittings, was stoned during one of them), I recently saw Liquid Sky ... as long as you can stomach the atonal proto-electro soundtrack permeating the whole movie (it's awesome, I downloaded the OST, but not for everyone I guess).
It's about the early 80s post-punk club scene in NYC where everybody is shooting heroin all the time, being all fashionable models and nihilistic before the hipsters did it before it was cool, and then tiny invisible aliens land and the main character gets raped a lot (though not gratuitously, it turns out to be part of the plot) all the while accompanied by a maddening disharmonic synthetic soundtrack that must have inspired Alec Empire when he created Nintendo Teenage Robots - We Punk-Einheit on a hacked/modified Gameboy plugged into a DAT-recorder.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 03:00:32 pm
Liquid Sky was a blast -- The acting/direction/cinematography kind of sucked, but it had a spirit to the thing that made it enjoyable.  And yeah, the plot was mostly unexpected, which I liked.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 03:06:39 pm
I've heard of Liquid Sky but I haven't seen it. Fantastic Planet has a great soundtrack too. Also, Forbidden Zone. Good god Forbidden Zone.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 12, 2011, 03:25:54 pm
Contagion = Pandemic II (http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html#game), The Movie! I really hope they slipped a scene about Madagascar in there.

:lol:  Troof.  I went and watched it yesterday.  It just reminded me of the movie with Dustin Hoffman in the 90s/early 2000s...forget the name of it.  Too lazy to imdb.  Anyway, it was good...and yeah, the instant-ookook-then-police-state was interesting, and



SPOILER ALERT






they kill off a buncha high-paid actresses.  But it was a pretty good flick.



I also saw "The Help," for which I read the book first.  AS ALWAYS the book was much better.  But still, not a dry eye in the theater, so that says something...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on September 12, 2011, 04:01:06 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on September 12, 2011, 04:03:13 pm
Just a "for the record".....

I'm not a huge Will Ferrell fan.  I think his best work was SNL and he's gone downhill since.  In any event the kids like him so we rented "Everything Must Go" this weekend.

It's not a comedy.  It was good, but it's not a comedy.

On another weird as shit movie note.  "The Beaver" with Mel Gibson.  Yeah, I think movies about insanity can be done funny, stupid or scary.  This is a prime example of "crazy shit man" movie.  Mel plays the part well, but that may be because he's insane in reality as well......
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 04:04:57 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 12, 2011, 04:06:48 pm
Will Ferrell can act when he's not being annoying. Like in Stranger than Fiction.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on September 12, 2011, 04:07:34 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 04:22:49 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 04:25:05 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?

ZARDOZ.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8ZO_Dkg79Zo/SJ9ovnYrWDI/AAAAAAAABPQ/J-q60qryKeI/connery-zardoz.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on September 12, 2011, 04:26:29 pm
 :cry:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on September 12, 2011, 04:27:07 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?

ZARDOZ.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8ZO_Dkg79Zo/SJ9ovnYrWDI/AAAAAAAABPQ/J-q60qryKeI/connery-zardoz.jpg)

I still haven't seen Zardoz. :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 12, 2011, 04:27:19 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?
I bet he really hates those Roadrunner cartoons, too.


That said, ZARDOZ was actually quite awesome. I mean, it was somewhat bad, but weird enough to be cool. Also, lots of nudity. I wonder, whether my opinion would have changed without the nudity...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 12, 2011, 04:33:33 pm
I blame Darth Cupcake on my exposure to Zardoz. Not only did she show us the movie, but she also gave us the sangria that we drank until we were sober WHILE watching it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on September 12, 2011, 04:35:22 pm
Did she move away or something?  I vaguely remember her posting on FB something about San Francisco.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on September 12, 2011, 04:38:09 pm
Nudity always helps, look at true blood.

If it wasn't for the degenerate spirit of HBO screeming (in the voice of gilbert godfried) "Take off your fucking clothes" every five minutes that show wouldn't be half as good.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 12, 2011, 04:42:13 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?

ZARDOZ.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8ZO_Dkg79Zo/SJ9ovnYrWDI/AAAAAAAABPQ/J-q60qryKeI/connery-zardoz.jpg)

Dammit I still haven't seen Zardoz. It looks epic. I just got a box set of 50s science fiction films. So far I've only watched This Island Earth. Tarantula! is next  :D
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on September 12, 2011, 04:45:18 pm
Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yes.

Anyone seen Fantastic Planet (the french title is Le Planet Savage')?

Yup.  Both creepy and boring, alternately.

This



 :argh!: :argh!: :argh!:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminds me that I need to subject my GF to this.

What kinda flims do you like then smart guy? Huh? Huh?
I bet he really hates those Roadrunner cartoons, too.


That said, ZARDOZ was actually quite awesome. I mean, it was somewhat bad, but weird enough to be cool. Also, lots of nudity. I wonder, whether my opinion would have changed without the nudity...

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEE EEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on September 12, 2011, 04:46:18 pm
Did she move away or something?  I vaguely remember her posting on FB something about San Francisco.

Oh shit...she did move...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Iason Ouabache on September 13, 2011, 05:14:09 am
Fun trivia: Sean Connery was, at one point, offered the role for Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, but he turned it down due to reportedly "not understanding the story".

And yet, he had no problems doing Zardoz.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Medford Shmoo on September 13, 2011, 02:10:28 pm
Fun trivia: Sean Connery was, at one point, offered the role for Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, but he turned it down due to reportedly "not understanding the story".

And yet, he had no problems doing Zardoz.

Possibly the story didn't involve him hitting enough women?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 13, 2011, 05:35:27 pm
Fun trivia: Sean Connery was, at one point, offered the role for Gandalf in Lord of the Rings, but he turned it down due to reportedly "not understanding the story".

And yet, he had no problems doing Zardoz.

Possibly the story didn't involve him hitting enough women getting enough drugs to get through the storyline?

Fixt because there's no fucking way in hell that fucking movie wasn't done without them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 13, 2011, 05:36:51 pm
Saw Lucky Number Sleven this weekend.

I give it 3.5/4

Would watch again.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 13, 2011, 05:50:30 pm
It is a very good film.  I watched it a while back, but it was on again last night, so I recorded it.

It's films like that which make it hard to give up entirely on the movie industry.  It shows they can, occasionally, do something clever and interesting and actually doesn't make me want to punch myself in the balls out of boredom.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 15, 2011, 08:33:39 am
Just watching Kontroll.  From the TV description:

Quote
A Hungarian black comedy in which a group of Budapest Metro ticket inspectors juggle skiving on the job and tracking down a serial killer loose in the system.

Naturally, it's subtitled, and fairly well.  The atmosphere is quite good, and the black humour is sometimes fairly subtle.  For a director's first film, it's fairly good.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on September 18, 2011, 09:25:48 pm
Watching Little Shop of Horrors.

The 1960's version.

This one creeped me out beyond words when I was a kid.

I'm at the bit about the dentist.  Eeek.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on September 19, 2011, 07:16:53 pm
They are remaking Beetlejuice.  :|

They're remaking everything.  I predict in the next three or four years they'll be remaking The Crow.  Which, I don't know about you guys, but I think that movie is totelly orsim.

 :lulz:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1340094/


going to be written by ... nick cave??? http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/exclusive-nick-cave-rewrite-crow-remake-19578
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on September 19, 2011, 07:27:01 pm
Yeah, I'm not surprised.

It's like Hollywood's taking that "nothing new under the sun" concept and running the fuck to Mars with it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on September 19, 2011, 10:45:29 pm
Dear Hollywood Fucktards,

You may NOT remake movies which were produced during my lifetime.

Knock it the fuck off, or I will rip out your bowels via your navels and strangle you with them.

Love and kisses,
Luna
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 19, 2011, 11:22:42 pm
Except when it involves radioactive sewer sludge that changes turtles into jedis.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Demolition_Squid on September 24, 2011, 09:07:09 pm
Saw Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with the grandparents today.

I think that movie actually raped my dog whilst I was watching it.  :cry:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on September 24, 2011, 10:32:10 pm
Hi everyone.

Driver. See it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on September 25, 2011, 03:20:12 am
Cowboys and Aliens is wasted potential.

History Boys was very very good.

I might actually watch The Crow if Cave's involved.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 25, 2011, 07:41:03 am
I heard that "Drive" was excellent, even though reviewers seem to hate it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on September 25, 2011, 08:17:49 am
I just saw City of Lost Children today.  The one with subtitles, dubs make me angry. 

But yeah, I didn't used to like Ron Perlman because he looks like this creeper I know, but then I watched this movie and I was all "OH JESUS THOSE MUSCLES NNNNNGAAAAHHH..." and I forgot my point.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 25, 2011, 05:16:35 pm
I've owned that movie for over six years, but have never watched it. I've started it a few times, but somehow each time I get interrupted.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: kingyak on September 25, 2011, 06:48:58 pm
Saw Killer Elite last night. It's a decent enough black ops/hitman type action flick, but if I'd realized it was based on a true story, I probably would have lowered my expectations accordingly and enjoyed it more. IMO, if you've got the guy from Shoot 'Em Up and the guy from Crank both starring int your movie, it's a huge waste of potential to do anything even remotely based in reality, so I was wanting all kinds of crazy over-the-top action.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on September 25, 2011, 08:27:58 pm
I thought those were the same guy? :?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2011, 08:41:51 pm
Saw Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with the grandparents today.

I think that movie actually raped my dog whilst I was watching it.  :cry:

Really?  I've only read one review so far, but the impression I got that, while it was slow, it was slow in the way The Godfather is slow, and that just made the sense of paranoia even more tense.  And the reviewer spoke highly of the setting and costumes.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Demolition_Squid on September 25, 2011, 08:49:03 pm
If I didn't know the story going in, there was no way I would understand what the fuck I was watching.

There was no characterization for the majority of the cast. The movie leaves you in absolutely no doubt from about halfway through about who the culprit is, because they show nearly nobody else.

The start is very slow. After that, it cuts about with no real regard to storytelling or explanation.

They slice out whole subplots, including one character (the journalist, name escapes me) - but they mention that character's name in a rant at the end. Completely left field.

The movie is made of flashbacks; the best scene happens about ten minutes in, but you see it three or four times throughout, over and over, which just wasn't necessary.

Random homosexuality felt like a real grab for the 'shock' market. There's one particular place I am sure is an addition for the film, not in the book, which radically changes a character.

And they changed the ending to remove the final mystery. Oh, and the explanation as to why the entire thing happens is sanitized for an American market.

The acting was very strong. It was particularly nice to see many characters who were not 'hollywood pretty'. The camerawork was also very good, and there were some shots which were excellent.

But as a movie, it was god-awful. A major let down because most reviews seem to be coming out positive.

(Tried to keep the above as spoiler-free as possible)

Edited for clarity - by 'the acting is very strong' and 'there is no characterization', I mean that the characters we get to meet are portrayed very well. But you only really get a feel for maybe four or five of them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2011, 09:45:08 pm
I did wonder how sanitized that particular aspect would be, for an American audience.

From the sound of it, it sounds like a semi-decent spy thriller, so long as you don't think of it as Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Demolition_Squid on September 25, 2011, 10:40:03 pm
I could be biased, that's definitely possible. But the manner of the storytelling was very confusing; I didn't feel that anything was very well explained at all, so you suddenly had people going to places and doing things with little apparent reason behind it. The atmosphere was strong, the sets and costuming was, I suppose, pretty amazing... but I felt it fell flat as an actual piece of storytelling.

I'd be interested to hear what you think of it if you do go see it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on September 25, 2011, 10:42:16 pm
I'm definitely looking to go see it.  I might go a week on Wednesday, assuming I can sort out my bank details in order to get my oyster card.  Ideally, I would have liked to go this Wednesday, but the aforementioned bank and oyster card things need to be sorted out, and I may need my day off to do it all.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on October 03, 2011, 02:17:36 am
Saw Lars Trier's new film, Melancholia.  :argh!: Bullshit. Also, NEEDS MOAR VIOLINS. It's basically about a bunch of people in denial and trying to cope with the fact that a rogue planet will smash into Earth, killing everything.

Found two awesome films on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an4CG2WN37Q
I mentioned Interrogation here before. It's about Stalin's crackdown of Poland (and was actually banned in Poland and had to be smuggled out (just like the plot of The Lives of Others (another film that I can't stand. (Wait, is this LISP?)))) A cabaret singer is arrested and held until she signs a confession to absurd charges that involve aiding Western imperialism. What makes the film great is how physical violence is downplayed, because these are people who just want you to SIGN THE FUCKING CONFESSION.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlkhZwZ0c8g
This one's a Swedish drama about teenage lesbians. I thought I was going to hate it, but it's actually awesome, and manages to avoid being corny (apart from a literal 'coming out' metaphor.)

I'm about to watch a Taiwanese film called Rebels of the Neon God entirely for its name. I hope it doesn't disappoint me in the same way as The Cars That Ate Paris.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on October 03, 2011, 02:22:28 am
I got a copy of the 1996 Generation X movie.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

This is so remarkably full of 90s X-Men Universe awesome. They really should have done more with it .
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on October 03, 2011, 02:33:27 pm
I finally saw SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD

that kicked ASS

That is a movie that knows its target audience very very very well
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on October 03, 2011, 02:53:36 pm
I finally saw SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD

that kicked ASS

That is a movie that knows its target audience very very very well

It does!! We saw it at Suu's and it was ASS KICKING
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Luna on October 04, 2011, 12:43:07 am
http://www.cracked.com/article_19443_7-classic-movies-you-didnt-know-were-rip-offs.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=feature_module

Neat stuff.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 04, 2011, 12:46:19 pm
I finally saw SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD

that kicked ASS

That is a movie that knows its target audience very very very well

dude

that was practically my EXACT fucking thought as I left that movie
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on October 04, 2011, 01:24:58 pm
Scott Pilgrim was indeed pretty damned awesome.  Kinda reeks that TTSS is a bit sucky.  :(  Still haven't seen it, and still plan to, though.

Melancholia looked soooo damned lame with soooo many good actors, I was sorta sad and mad that what could have been an awesome movie is apparently BEYOND LAEM.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on October 04, 2011, 09:19:33 pm
Have you watched it yet? If not then pleassssse don't listen to me without other opinions. Loads of people seem to like it so far. :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on October 04, 2011, 10:57:46 pm
Yes, I'm sure.  You know what else loads and loads of people liked?

The Twilight series. :vom:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on November 08, 2011, 10:29:20 am
Watched Apollo 18, or as it is otherwise known, Paranormal Activty...in SPACE!

Complete waste of time.

Next film on my list should be better.  The Brotherhood of the Wolf is the first film about the Beast of Gévaudan, a creature that has fascinated me for quite some time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beast_of_G%C3%A9vaudan

Quote
The Beast of Gévaudan (French: La Bête du Gévaudan; IPA: [la bɜt dy ʒevɔdɑ̃], Occitan: La Bèstia de Gavaudan) is a name given to man-eating wolf-like animals alleged to have terrorized the former province of Gévaudan (modern day département of Lozère and part of Haute-Loire), in the Margeride Mountains in south-central France from 1764 to 1767 over an area stretching 90 by 80 kilometres (56 by 50 mi).[2] The beasts were consistently described by eyewitnesses as having formidable teeth and immense tails. Their fur had a reddish tinge, and was said to have emitted an unbearable odour. They killed their victims by tearing at their throats with their teeth. The number of victims differs according to source. De Beaufort (1987) estimated 210 attacks, resulting in 113 deaths and 49 injuries; 98 of the victims killed were partly eaten.[2] An enormous amount of manpower and resources was used in the hunting of the animals, including the army, conscripted civilians, several nobles, and a number of royal huntsmen.[2] All animals operated outside of ordinary wolf packs, though eyewitness accounts indicate that they sometimes were accompanied by a smaller female, which did not take part in the attacks.

The film, of course, takes considerable liberties with what is already a fascinating story, but it should be fun regardless.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on November 08, 2011, 10:32:42 am
I saw Another Earth day before yesterday. It was excellent, would recommend.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on November 08, 2011, 11:11:39 am
Rewatchd a great film called Japanese Story. Aussie film.

Other than 12 Monkies this is the most effective film I've seen that can take advantage of a viewers film literacy. Don't wiki it, just watch it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Triple Zero on November 08, 2011, 01:48:44 pm
RECENTLY SAW NEW KIDS TURBO AND IT IS INDEED AWESOME AND HILARIOUS

VERREKTE KUT

...except I don't suppose it will be very funny to non-Dutch. Or maybe it will but probably not in the same way, because of the stereotypes :lol: That is, if you can find English subtitles, or even better, an English dub (one of the few times I'd actually recommend dubs over subs, but I only know of a horribly mutated German one by the actors themselves).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on November 27, 2011, 01:25:35 pm
OK, so I've watched three films recently.

The Green Lantern: meh.  I quite like Ryan Renolds as an actor, though I can see how he would grate on others.  That aside, not much to say about this film.  Watch it if you've got a few hours spare and no idea of what to do with them.

Conan the Barbarian: otherwise known as Khal Drogo Speaks English and Does Badass Stuff.   I actually liked the kid who played Conan at the start...keep an eye on his career, he may do well.  The rest of it is tits, swords and leather.  Also known as "every single episode of A Game of Thrones".  Maybe they wanted to make sure Jason Momoa felt at home?  Not too bad, so long as you don't take it seriously.

The Thing.  Remake of Prequel to John Carpenter's classic (the first film of his I saw, incidentally).  To be honest, it sounds like a bad idea from the start, because it's an identical plot set-up, only with a female lead and CGI.  However, it's not too terrible.  It's not as good as the original, as few things are, but if you've never seen that, it would be a fairly decent film.  The monster is just as hideous as it was in Carpenter's original, and the paranoia is cranked up high.  Flame-thrower also makes a welcome return.  If you have seen the original, it wont compare favourably, but it still may be worth checking out, if you've got nothing else on.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on November 27, 2011, 05:19:32 pm
I watched the first Cate Blanchett "Elizabeth" movie last night.

Aside from it being an inaccurate piece of celluloid with pretty men it in to attempt to balance bad writing, her costumes were atrociously inaccurate, and seemed to follow more of a Victorian idea of what women in the 1500s, as women's clothing ranged from 1650s lace-covered cavalier (WTF Mary of Guise?!) and open polonaise coats over incorrectly elongated bodices. If I ever meet that costume designer I will shoot her. I can see where she was trying to make the French these flamboyant, mismatched, sexually liberated fops, and the Spanish these dark, brooding, unshaven sociopaths, but COME ON.

Also, in the first half of the movie, Elizabeth and the ladies of her court ARE in accurate garb.....taken right out of Moda a Firenze and based on the dresses of Eleanor of Toledo. Sure, so they transplanted Italian clothing to England in which they OVERLAP with the late Tudor look of Queen Mary (who was psychotic and remarkably accurate). They were even LACED correctly, which suddenly changed part way through the film when they decided to take princess seam spiral lacing on the back and put it dead center in the back and fucking cross lace. Who makes a godawful faux-pas like that?

The most accurate garb in the film was her coronation outfit, which was taken right from a goddamn painting and hard to screw up, and her "I am married to England" scene at the end, in which the high Elizabethan look had started to come into fashion, even if it suggested that she started the trend herself. That's hotly for debate, but I can attest that all that makeup was not to make her look "virginal" it was to hide what smallpox does to the skin.

Geoffrey Rush as Walsingham was epic, though. Because it's Geoffrey Rush, that's why.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on November 28, 2011, 09:08:58 am
Source Code was actually really cool. Same guy directed Moon, which is a fantastic piece of sci-fi.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on November 28, 2011, 05:02:49 pm
Muppet movie was awesome. I'm still humming all those songs.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Jenne on November 28, 2011, 05:15:16 pm
Muppet movie was awesome. I'm still humming all those songs.

We now call my gangly 14 year old "Muppet Man" because he is so lanky and has such a hard time controlling his limbs.  Before it was "clodhopper," so Muppet Man fits.  :D
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on November 28, 2011, 11:15:34 pm
I saw the Muppet movie too.  I thought it was ok.

Parts made me laugh ridiculously, long stretches were boring and maudlin.


**SPOILER**




I didn't like the idea of Kermit sitting alone in a mansion for 10 years, having never called Fozzie once.  Doesn't seem in character.


And too much Walter and not enough Sam the Eagle.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 09, 2011, 08:12:53 pm
I'm in the middle of watching Terry Jones' Medieval Lives series from the BBC. Aside from the necessary Python silliness, it's actually surprisingly well done and he covers a lot of information.

http://www.medievalists.net/2011/12/06/terry-jones-medieval-lives/
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on December 09, 2011, 08:16:43 pm
I saw the Muppet movie too.  I thought it was ok.

Parts made me laugh ridiculously, long stretches were boring and maudlin.


**SPOILER**




I didn't like the idea of Kermit sitting alone in a mansion for 10 years, having never called Fozzie once.  Doesn't seem in character.


And too much Walter and not enough Sam the Eagle.

They didn't take a great big dump on Henson's grave, then?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on December 09, 2011, 08:26:12 pm
I didn't like the idea of Kermit sitting alone in a mansion for 10 years, having never called Fozzie once.  Doesn't seem in character.


Oh Kermit is the mastermind behind the whole downfall Hoops.  He's the evil genius who threw all the rest under the bus. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on December 10, 2011, 07:23:45 am
I'm thinking I need to see 13 Assassins very soon.

This movie actually shell-shocked me. I saw so many feudal japanese people die  to expert swordsmanship that I didn't even notice my girl had been asleep next to me for the last 45 minutes. FUCK that was an awesome, fucked up film. (Yes, I am 10 pages behind on this thread, spags).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on December 10, 2011, 07:28:55 am
Sabrina, old and new.

Liked both. Prefer new, if only for Harrison Ford.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 10, 2011, 05:04:38 pm
 :gheyforum:  - 10 years ago today, the Fellowship of the Ring was released in theatres. I was a sophomore in college mark I, waited in line with my BF at the time, as we out-nerded ourselves arguing with other moviegoers about specific happenings in the Silmarillion.


Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: N E T on December 10, 2011, 06:18:02 pm
Source Code was actually really cool. Same guy directed Moon, which is a fantastic piece of sci-fi.

Moon is one of my all-time favorite movies, so I'll have to check this out.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on December 11, 2011, 01:12:01 am
Source Code was actually really cool. Same guy directed Moon, which is a fantastic piece of sci-fi.

Moon is one of my all-time favorite movies, so I'll have to check this out.

Yeah. Not as good as moon IMO but a really well executed idea.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 17, 2011, 06:50:44 pm
Watching Killer Elite.

This has to be the second or third film Jason Statham has starred in which has to do with the more sordid aspects of modern British history.  The other one that comes to mind is the film he was in where MI6 sponsored a bank robbery in London.

Killer Elite deals with the aftermath of the SAS's actions in Oman.  For those who don't know, the SAS waged a covert war in Oman, putting down a major rebellion there.  Furthermore, Col. David Stirling, the founder of the SAS, was heavily involved in UK politics via his contacts in the regiment and the mercenaries he supplied abroad, tacitly approved by the British governments of the time.

In this, it is imagined that one of the Sheikhs who supported the rebellion but later went into exile, and whose sons were targeted by the SAS for death, wants revenge.  And so he hires a bunch of mercenaries and hitmen, including Jason Statham to do it.

And from there on in it is pretty much your standard action flick.  Still, it is nice to see this sort of thing being referenced, even if only in obscure documentaries and cinema.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on June 10, 2012, 02:59:35 pm
Prometheus... What a mess... Discuss.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 10, 2012, 05:37:39 pm
On a 30's kick. Working through a bunch of Mae West flicks. I like Night After Night. Mob guys!  :lol:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 10, 2012, 07:25:49 pm
Prometheus... What a mess... Discuss.

Good concept, a lot of cool stuff that is only implied but never made explicit.

*Alien at the start created the human race.
*2000 years ago we started evolving or some jesus shit and the aliens wanted to kill us.

But it also had
*Charliez being crushed by a giant donut which was retarded
and
*A disgusting self abortion scene that was just grotesque.

I don't think the alien franchise would have been as popular if RS had also made all the sequels.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on June 11, 2012, 05:46:36 am
*A disgusting self abortion scene that was just grotesque.

It looked like one of those cuddly toy grabber thingies you get at a funfair. Other I-laughed-too-loud-and-pissed-off-everyone-around-me moments included:

*A computer activated by a magical flute.
*An exploding head.
*Melodramatic human incineration.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on June 11, 2012, 06:18:23 am
I could have gone my whole life without seeing that abortion scene.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 11, 2012, 08:30:05 am
*A disgusting self abortion scene that was just grotesque.

It looked like one of those cuddly toy grabber thingies you get at a funfair. Other I-laughed-too-loud-and-pissed-off-everyone-around-me moments included:

*A computer activated by a magical flute.
*An exploding head.
*Melodramatic human incineration.

I liked the flute, it wouldn't have to be magic to key a divice to a sound pattern. And the number of possible passwords with a flute is pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Xooxe on June 11, 2012, 04:52:01 pm
It would take just one self indulgent jazz flutist to accidentally release the bioweapons.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on June 11, 2012, 04:59:34 pm
Ron Burgundy is the harbinger of the apocalypse?

(http://ryangruss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/anchorman_jazzflute.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cuddlefish on June 13, 2012, 06:33:29 am
It would take just one self indulgent jazz flutist to accidentally release the bioweapons.

 :lulz: :lulz:

But that said, I did like the flute, as well as the "searching for our creators who, BTW, actually want to kill us" theme. The imagery and sound were excellent, and I definitely got a sense of being on another world. My main problems were with some of the unbelievable dialogue and character actions/interactions, but mostly continuity things between Prometheus and the original Alien series. I think the movie would have benefited from disconnecting itself from the Alien films as much as possible, allowing them to spend more time constructing a more concrete plot focused on the "creators," as opposed to pigeon-holeing itself into being a convoluted tie-in to a classic sci-fi series. Plus there was the "magic black ooze" that happened to mysteriously fulfill multiple convenient functions. All sorts of unanswered questions, baiting you to see the sequel, which will likely not answer them. I still have a bad taste left from the writers strike, and maybe I'm being to critical, but they're going to have to work a bit harder to get me to go to the theater more regularly.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on June 13, 2012, 06:42:44 am
I recently watched Stranger Than Fiction. I normally find Will Farrell somewhere on a scale from meh to lol. But I really liked him in this one, I think it's his best and most funny role.

One thing that I especially enjoyed is that it was not a movie about a supernatural event "Man Is Story" story. At least, it did not depend or stagnate with that side of the story. I also enjoyed the photography throughout, very visually appealing. And the story was wonderful.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on June 13, 2012, 02:18:02 pm
Agreed.  And I really liked Emma Thompson.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Placid Dingo on June 19, 2012, 12:40:40 pm
Yeah, STF really got it right. Some of those comedic actors really get it right with the serious roles. Steve Carol in Little Miss Sunshine, Dan in Real Life is another good example.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 19, 2012, 05:18:53 pm
I finally got copy of "On The Seventh Day: Bill Hicks At The Cult Compound".  :)

Dude went and hung around Waco as the shit was getting ready to hit the fan and made a doc.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on August 30, 2012, 12:19:51 pm
There has been a lot of talk about Rape and gender issues around the place in the last while and it reminded me of a film I saw recently called The Skin I live in. It's based off of a book called tarantula which I haven't read so if anyone has I would be interested on how it handled the issues portrayed in the film.

In case anyone is interested in watching this I would suggest not to read any more because it is very good but has spoilers for what is a twisty movie.

The film opens on a women held captive in a doctors house. We are unsure if he has kidnapped her, if she is mentally ill or suicidal and needs to be locked up or if she is sick and needs isolation. The first fifteen minutes or so of the film portray a bizarre and upsetting home invasion and rape of this girl which ends in a climax of the doctor killing the invader and making love to the imprisoned girl.

The scenes are designed to anger the viewer and trigger the protective reflex for the girl and portray the doctor as a violent alpha male character with at best a sexual relationship with a mentally ill girl and at worst, a sexual relationship with a victim of Stockholm syndrome.

The movie shifts back and there is a great deal of history portrayed on the doctor all central to the women in his life, through a car accident which left his wife a recluse and his daughters mental instability.

If anyone is still planning on watching the film I wouldn't suggest reading on until you have.

The ultimate revelation of the prisoner girl in the doctors house gets explained in a way that recontexualises the first twenty minutes in a nasty way.

Effectively the doctor believes his daughter is raped by a boy at a party which ultimately leads to her committing suicide. What follows is a skin crawling montage where the doctor imprisons her rapist in his home and begins a gradual transformation on him which ultimately leads into the start of the film.

I found the protective instinct from the start of the film was hard to shake, that it was actually reinforced by the harshness of what happened to the guy.
I'd be interested in what people thought of the the shifting motivations of the characters in the film because I couldn't make head nor tail of them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Reeducation on August 31, 2012, 09:16:02 pm
I just (yesterday) watched The Rules of the Game (1939).

It's a french movie about rich and not so rich people who are, in short, somewhat fucked-up.
I'm not sure if it was just that I was tired or something, but damn there was stuff going on in almost every scene, non-stop.
The movie starts slowly, but when it gets going, you'll be like "wtf is going on?" and then there is screaming and oh, the movie ends.
I liked it a lot! :)

But yeah, I should watch it again soon, because I was VERY tired when I watched it.
(There is a possibility that some parts of the movie, that I remember seeing, were not actually happening at all.)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 01, 2012, 01:21:16 pm
There has been a lot of talk about Rape and gender issues around the place in the last while and it reminded me of a film I saw recently called The Skin I live in. It's based off of a book called tarantula which I haven't read so if anyone has I would be interested on how it handled the issues portrayed in the film.

In case anyone is interested in watching this I would suggest not to read any more because it is very good but has spoilers for what is a twisty movie.

The film opens on a women held captive in a doctors house. We are unsure if he has kidnapped her, if she is mentally ill or suicidal and needs to be locked up or if she is sick and needs isolation. The first fifteen minutes or so of the film portray a bizarre and upsetting home invasion and rape of this girl which ends in a climax of the doctor killing the invader and making love to the imprisoned girl.

The scenes are designed to anger the viewer and trigger the protective reflex for the girl and portray the doctor as a violent alpha male character with at best a sexual relationship with a mentally ill girl and at worst, a sexual relationship with a victim of Stockholm syndrome.

The movie shifts back and there is a great deal of history portrayed on the doctor all central to the women in his life, through a car accident which left his wife a recluse and his daughters mental instability.

If anyone is still planning on watching the film I wouldn't suggest reading on until you have.

The ultimate revelation of the prisoner girl in the doctors house gets explained in a way that recontexualises the first twenty minutes in a nasty way.

Effectively the doctor believes his daughter is raped by a boy at a party which ultimately leads to her committing suicide. What follows is a skin crawling montage where the doctor imprisons her rapist in his home and begins a gradual transformation on him which ultimately leads into the start of the film.

I found the protective instinct from the start of the film was hard to shake, that it was actually reinforced by the harshness of what happened to the guy.
I'd be interested in what people thought of the the shifting motivations of the characters in the film because I couldn't make head nor tail of them.


that sounds really interesting and really disturbing!

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on September 03, 2012, 01:01:48 am
I saw The Avengers. It could be that I've never read much of those comics, or it could be the more ham-fisted bits of dialogue, or perhaps even the Tangerine Dreamieness (every major color scheme is either orange or teal, like so many movies these days) but I found myself hating it as much as I found it entertaining. I'm not too snobbish to enjoy entertaining action movies with little substance, it's just that I wouldn't watch this particular one again.

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on September 03, 2012, 01:09:08 am
I also just watched The Warriors, which Dr. Fiancé loved in her childhood but hadn't seen in quite some time. She was almost too embarrassed in her own gone-by taste to finish it, I insisted. Mainly so I can force her to watch something equally horrible.

Dexter's dad (James Remar, it turns out) is in it and was a total dreamboat, quite aside from his role as a potential rapist.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on September 03, 2012, 04:24:09 am
I also just watched The Warriors, which Dr. Fiancé loved in her childhood but hadn't seen in quite some time. She was almost too embarrassed in her own gone-by taste to finish it, I insisted. Mainly so I can force her to watch something equally horrible.

Dexter's dad (James Remar, it turns out) is in it and was a total dreamboat, quite aside from his role as a potential rapist.

Damn, those people got old.  :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YneQ6DDN1M4&feature=related
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 03, 2012, 06:09:05 am
Cowboy & Ninja took me out to a matinee of ParaNorman, which was AWESOME! I laughed multiple times despite my best efforts. The fucking chips bag got me.

Also I was scared and I cried and I was impressed by the animation, all at the same time. it was SUPER cool.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on October 01, 2012, 11:18:30 pm
Just watched Flukt.

Thin plot. Nice scenery. Set in 1363. Involves Gaahl. 6/10.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 01, 2012, 11:32:18 pm
I have heard from several people now that Looper is superb.

I am skeptical.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on October 01, 2012, 11:37:41 pm
The trailer looks good, but then trailers always look good.  I might see it next week, I haven't decided yet.

Edit: currently ranked 8.4 out of 10 on IMDB.  With enough reviews, they're usually a decent judge of quality.  Yeah, definitely try to catch it next week sometime.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2012, 12:09:15 am
Let me know what you think of it!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 02, 2012, 08:17:22 am
The movie is good but deals with two aspects.

The time travel loop one is good.

The other (which is a spoiler) is the very old and very boring morality question of if you could kill hitler when he was a child would you.

The movie doesn't deal with the morality side it proposes, it just stays as an action movie. Excellent action movie though and the background sci fi details are cool.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2012, 10:32:14 am
I kinda guessed at the second one from the trailer.

I suppose in some ways it is better it remains a slick sci-fi/action film rather than delving too deeply into the morality aspect of it.  While Bruce Willis could probably handle that, I have my doubts about the rest of the cast, and the only thing more annoying than a completely brainless action film is one which tries too hard and overestimates the skill of its actors.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2012, 12:38:34 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2012, 06:01:32 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on October 02, 2012, 06:06:50 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 02, 2012, 06:16:22 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.

All of his movies are like that. "Misery porn" is exactly it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2012, 06:22:23 pm
Nigel nailed it.  However, his voice and visual aesthetic are both pretty killer.  Plus, Mrs LMNO is a Film Studies major, which means we kind of have to see these kinds of film.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2012, 06:41:25 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.

All of his movies are like that. "Misery porn" is exactly it.

Beats war porn, which has been the staple wanking material for America since 1990 or so.  In any case, why would anyone go watch a movie that makes them feel miserable?  That's why we have JOBS and BILLS and RELATIVES, for Chrissakes.

You People make NO SENSE.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on October 02, 2012, 06:42:30 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.

All of his movies are like that. "Misery porn" is exactly it.

Beats war porn, which has been the staple wanking material for America since 1990 or so.  In any case, why would anyone go watch a movie that makes them feel miserable?  That's why we have JOBS and BILLS and RELATIVES, for Chrissakes.

You People make NO SENSE.

Because they are empty shells of ennui?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2012, 06:45:11 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.

All of his movies are like that. "Misery porn" is exactly it.

Beats war porn, which has been the staple wanking material for America since 1990 or so.  In any case, why would anyone go watch a movie that makes them feel miserable?  That's why we have JOBS and BILLS and RELATIVES, for Chrissakes.

You People make NO SENSE.

Because they are empty shells of ennui?

EET EES ALL SO BORRRING!

*holds cig backwards*
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on October 02, 2012, 06:45:47 pm
His Kingdom Hospital show he did with Steven King was quite unique, It falls apart towards the end but for the most part its really entertaining.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 06, 2012, 06:37:18 pm
Saw the latest Lars Von Trier film, "Melancholia".  Gorgeously shot, odd plot, and surprisingly (for a Lars Von Trier flick, at least) it did not rip my heart out of my chest and toss it in the gutter to rot.

To speak of the story at all would be majory spoilage.  It did however sum up his ethos in a single line: "Life is Evil."

Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.


I loathe Lars von Trier because I think he's a spoiled misery voyeur who packages human meanness and suffering for sale to those who don't have enough of it already in their lives, but I might be willing to tolerate his bullshit for a naked Kirsten Dunst.

I think I've only ever seen one of his movies, Dancer in the Dark, but yeah I would tend to agree based on that one film.  It was like misery porn.

I do like movies about the end of the world, though, so I will give it a try.  Also, Kirsten Dunst naked.

All of his movies are like that. "Misery porn" is exactly it.

Beats war porn, which has been the staple wanking material for America since 1990 or so.  In any case, why would anyone go watch a movie that makes them feel miserable?  That's why we have JOBS and BILLS and RELATIVES, for Chrissakes.

You People make NO SENSE.

 :lulz:

My theory is that films like that are for middle-class people who don't really have anything wrong in their lives, so that they may temporarily indulge their inner feelings of self-pity by ain't-it-awfulling about how rotten the world they live in is.

It gives them something to drink about.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on October 07, 2012, 07:49:46 am
Didn't get to see Looper, thanks to my bank denying me access to all my funds.

Thanks, bankers Obama!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on December 12, 2012, 04:18:43 pm
Watched the Hobbit part 1 last night. I'm satisfied, but it's too drawn out. The original story is simple and straight-forward enough for one or maybe two movies.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 12, 2012, 05:25:04 pm
I haven't seen any recent movies. The only one I'm considering is the one with the little girl with the monsters in the Lousiana swamps, because I keep getting such great word of mouth on it.

What I've been doing is downloading old stuff. Mostly post-silent but pre-code. Mae West, Bette Davis, Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich.
Holy fuck, that old shit is awesome. If you haven't seen Blue Angel but only heard of it (the way I alway did), grab it.  8)

I'm making an exception for Sunset Boulevard. It was made much later but it's hilarious in a Dragnet kind of way. Watched half last night until my laptop battery died and will finish tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on December 12, 2012, 05:45:14 pm
Those pre-code movies were pretty awesome.  Some fucked-up films, there.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dildo Argentino on December 12, 2012, 07:00:22 pm
His Kingdom Hospital show he did with Steven King was quite unique, It falls apart towards the end but for the most part its really entertaining.

But Riget, Lars von Trier's original, Danish series about a haunted hospital... is the real deal.

I think misery is something that happens to most everyone, so making films about it is justified.

Trier's THe Idiots was brilliant. And so was Dogville, even though it was about misery (and retribution - the ending would be right up Roger's street) And so was his little act of getting banned from Cannes.

Horror movies, on the other hand... I don't watch those. I have plenty to scare me without ridiculous plot-lines and unrealistic horrors.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 12, 2012, 08:14:46 pm
Watching The Man With The Iron Fists right now.

It's...Tarantino.  And RZA, and Eli Roth?  What else can I say?  Feudal Chinese Kung Fu fights set to a hip-hop track is what you're gonna get, whether you want it or not.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on December 12, 2012, 08:15:45 pm
I... I kind of want it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 12, 2012, 08:23:17 pm
Here's the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NrQtMajP8
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on December 12, 2012, 10:47:30 pm
Watching The Man With The Iron Fists right now.

It's...Tarantino.  And RZA, and Eli Roth?  What else can I say?  Feudal Chinese Kung Fu fights set to a hip-hop track is what you're gonna get, whether you want it or not.

Saw that last night, thought it was fun and enough kick ass to satisfy the trailers promises. I went in thinking it was Tarantino, turns out he just leant his production team to the RZA who wrote, directed and starred as the lead role.
My only gripe with it was the really out of place and in your face LACK of nudity. They have graphic sex scenes of a multitude of people and everyone is covered up, there is a sex scene with that wrestler guy who immediately turns around and is wearing some kind of thong?

Lets show someone getting their front split slowly in half by a spinning knife but we can't show anyone tits because that would be obscene.

His Kingdom Hospital show he did with Steven King was quite unique, It falls apart towards the end but for the most part its really entertaining.

But Riget, Lars von Trier's original, Danish series about a haunted hospital... is the real deal.

I think misery is something that happens to most everyone, so making films about it is justified.

Trier's THe Idiots was brilliant. And so was Dogville, even though it was about misery (and retribution - the ending would be right up Roger's street) And so was his little act of getting banned from Cannes.

Horror movies, on the other hand... I don't watch those. I have plenty to scare me without ridiculous plot-lines and unrealistic horrors.
I saw the idiots years ago and didn't think it was bad, can't say I thought much of antichrist.

I haven't seen any recent movies. The only one I'm considering is the one with the little girl with the monsters in the Lousiana swamps, because I keep getting such great word of mouth on it.

What I've been doing is downloading old stuff. Mostly post-silent but pre-code. Mae West, Bette Davis, Jean Harlow, Marlene Dietrich.
Holy fuck, that old shit is awesome. If you haven't seen Blue Angel but only heard of it (the way I alway did), grab it.  8)

I'm making an exception for Sunset Boulevard. It was made much later but it's hilarious in a Dragnet kind of way. Watched half last night until my laptop battery died and will finish tonight.  :)
I've only ever seen Witness for the prosecution and Touch of evil of Marlene Dietrichs but I'd love to go back to her earlier films. Though they came much much later I loved some of Liz Taylors old films, Suddenly last summer has some very fucked up psychological aspects and my all time favourite move ever is still Who's afraid of Virgina Woolf, I've never seen a film with more cutting, tragic funny and vicious dialogue then that.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 13, 2012, 11:38:00 am
Quote
Saw that last night, thought it was fun and enough kick ass to satisfy the trailers promises. I went in thinking it was Tarantino, turns out he just leant his production team to the RZA who wrote, directed and starred as the lead role.
My only gripe with it was the really out of place and in your face LACK of nudity. They have graphic sex scenes of a multitude of people and everyone is covered up, there is a sex scene with that wrestler guy who immediately turns around and is wearing some kind of thong?

Lets show someone getting their front split slowly in half by a spinning knife but we can't show anyone tits because that would be obscene.

Ah yes, re-watching the credits, I did notice that.  Still, if he's allowing them to use his name, he must be at least somewhat happy with the results.

The nudity thing is weird, but I think in general that's an American thing.  Ultraviolence = all cool.  Slipped nipple = weeks of outrage.  And so on and so forth.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on December 13, 2012, 02:59:13 pm
Also, it could be just me, but Russell Crowe is starting to remind me a lot of Stephen Fry.  Which adds a somewhat surreal edge to any scene he is in.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on December 13, 2012, 03:57:56 pm
Also, it could be just me, but Russell Crowe is starting to remind me a lot of Stephen Fry.  Which adds a somewhat surreal edge to any scene he is in.
No I picked up on it too... He is getting a little rounder at the belly and had a brittish accent both of which suit him well.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: SuuCal on December 13, 2012, 07:18:47 pm
Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dildo Argentino on December 16, 2012, 08:34:58 pm
...middle-class people who don't really have anything wrong in their lives...

I seriously think that's an oxymoron. Middle-class people may have comfortable lives. But there is practically always something wrong in them.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Don Coyote on December 16, 2012, 08:42:31 pm
Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

My only beefs are: Not enough singing, and GET RADAGAST THE FUCK OUT WHAT THE FUCK DUDE??? YOU DIDN'T ADD BOMBADIL BUT SHOVE RADAGAST IN????????
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on December 16, 2012, 10:01:41 pm
Reviews for the Hobbit are coming and, and they are, unsurprising, not good.  I mean, it apparently takes the first hour to leave the fucking Shire, and I have to wait 2 more years to see Smaug. There is no reason other than money to have made 3 movies out of it. I could see 2 as a just in case, but 3? When the first one is almost 3 hours long? REALLY?

My only beefs are: Not enough singing, and GET RADAGAST THE FUCK OUT WHAT THE FUCK DUDE??? YOU DIDN'T ADD BOMBADIL BUT SHOVE RADAGAST IN????????

The bolded, times a hundred. That shit better be in the extended DVD release. "Over the Misty Mountains" is among my favorite things, and the bastards cropped it.

And Radagast... played a little too batshit-loopy for my taste, but since they were dead-set on incorporating the Necromancer plotline I appreciated seeing him in the film. I could see why, if given the choice between Bombadil and Radagast, they'd put Radagast in.

Still would have liked to see the jolly old weirdo, though. Talk about mindfucking a mainstream audience.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2013, 11:45:19 am
I saw The Hobbit.

I'm kinda "eh" about the whole thing.  It really is too long for cinema viewing.  Also strangely boring in places.

If this is going to be a trilogy, then I can only assume that the role of the Necromancer, and Gandalf, are going to be enhanced even further, with Gandalf's breaching of Dol Guldur actually taking up screen time, unlike in the book where it all happened offstage (and, if I recall correctly, was not even mentioned until LOTR).

I didn't think it was terrible, or that all the additions were bad, the Orcs hunting Thorin, while definitely not canonical, make sense and are done well, but it can't decide whether it wants to follow the book and be a children's story, or act as a prequel to the LOTR trilogy.  Gandalf's meeting with the White Council is a perfect example of this.  I appreciated it, as it shows the Gandalf from the trilogy we all know and love, the canny, far-thinking leader who acts to remove a threat before it becomes a more serious problem: namely, if Sauron returns, Smaug will almost certainly join his side in battle.  But at the same time, that's more relevant to Jackson's other trilogy than it is to this film.

Also, I saw Django Unchained yesterday.

I wanted to like this film.  I really did.  And it's not awful.  It just feels like Tarantino isn't really trying.  Or that he needs a strong editorial hand to keep him on track.  As we all know, Tarantino has two great strengths - individual scenes, and dialogue.  His failing is being able to link those scenes effectively into a larger narrative.  Inappropriate humour interspersed with ultraviolence.  A tone that falls all over the place.  And that's very evident in this film.

Half the time, it felt like I was watching comedy skits of the Antebellum era.  Wanna-be KKKers unable to see out of their masks properly.  Dr Schultz's goddamn tooth on top of his cart.  Horses doing dressage moves.  That blue suit.

There's also the larger problem with the story, which is the way it dangles the possibility of slave revolt over our heads a fair few times, only to snatch it away with Django's one-man mission of vengeance.

Tarantino could've done real justice to the brutality and violence of slavery.  And in a few scenes, he comes close.  Only for everything to be undone by the other problems with the film and an ending which, to put it mildly, is lacklustre.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 14, 2013, 12:04:10 pm
Sounds kind of like Inglorious bastards so, all over the place, schizo tone. I just hope the ending isn't as much of a cop out as IB was.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 14, 2013, 12:14:13 pm
You may well be disappointed, then.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 14, 2013, 08:33:34 pm
The Moonrise Kingdom is great.

So is Bombón, El Perro... in a very different way.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 15, 2013, 11:15:03 am
Gray's Anatomy. Spalding Gray telling the story of his macular pucker. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 06:33:05 pm
haven't really been following this thread so this might be repost but has anyone seen John dies at the end??

Reminded me of what naked lunch would have been like if it hadn't been abject shite instead.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 15, 2013, 06:36:43 pm
No, but it's on my list.  Probably the next film I'll see in fact.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 06:36:54 pm
haven't really been following this thread so this might be repost but has anyone seen John dies at the end??

Reminded me of what naked lunch would have been like if it hadn't been abject shite instead.

Naked Lunch was the biggest disappointment since all the other shit Burroughs wrote.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 15, 2013, 06:41:13 pm
The movie Naked Lunch would have been received better if they told you up front it was a magical realism (lit crit definition) telling of how WSB wrote the thing in the first place.  Anyone expecting the book was in for dissapointment.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 06:42:18 pm
The movie Naked Lunch would have been received better if they told you up front it was a magical realism (lit crit definition) telling of how WSB wrote the thing in the first place.  Anyone expecting the book was in for dissapointment.

Book wasn't all that, either.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 06:50:26 pm
All I was expecting was David Cronenberg. No one's head exploded even slightly. Fuck that movie.  :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 15, 2013, 06:57:43 pm
A giant bug.  With a gaping asshole.  In its back.  That talked.


Cronenberg is more into orifices, you know.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 07:07:22 pm
Yeah, I get that. Still think he should play to his strengths, tho.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Junkenstein on January 15, 2013, 07:08:44 pm
I saw The Hobbit.

I'm kinda "eh" about the whole thing.  It really is too long for cinema viewing.  Also strangely boring in places.

If this is going to be a trilogy, then I can only assume that the role of the Necromancer, and Gandalf, are going to be enhanced even further, with Gandalf's breaching of Dol Guldur actually taking up screen time, unlike in the book where it all happened offstage (and, if I recall correctly, was not even mentioned until LOTR).

I didn't think it was terrible, or that all the additions were bad, the Orcs hunting Thorin, while definitely not canonical, make sense and are done well, but it can't decide whether it wants to follow the book and be a children's story, or act as a prequel to the LOTR trilogy.  Gandalf's meeting with the White Council is a perfect example of this.  I appreciated it, as it shows the Gandalf from the trilogy we all know and love, the canny, far-thinking leader who acts to remove a threat before it becomes a more serious problem: namely, if Sauron returns, Smaug will almost certainly join his side in battle.  But at the same time, that's more relevant to Jackson's other trilogy than it is to this film.



I second this review. I actually expected to see some kind of "75% original footage!" note somewhere. A lot of the tourism shots could have been in the ultra extended editions of LOTR but who would notice?

About an hour to get out of the village, an hour for foreshadowing and an action hour. I hear film 3 is apparently a "bridge" so expect various people to turn up as babies and be handed to guardians with appropriately solemn scenes.

I.e -The end of film 3 is just going to be babies being thrown at various people for 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 07:12:07 pm
I.e -The end of film 3 is just going to be babies being thrown at various people for 40 minutes.

If you've seen Bad Taste and Braindead (Dead Alive) you'll know that if anyone can make this work, it's Pete Jackson  :evil:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 07:12:53 pm
A giant bug.  With a gaping asshole.  In its back.  That talked.

Granted.

But that happens here anyway, and I'd like a little plot to go with it if I'm going to actually stop scratching and pay attention, if you know what I mean.  And I think you do.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Junkenstein on January 15, 2013, 07:33:02 pm
I.e -The end of film 3 is just going to be babies being thrown at various people for 40 minutes.

If you've seen Bad Taste and Braindead (Dead Alive) you'll know that if anyone can make this work, it's Pete Jackson  :evil:

I have, And I can think of little that I would love more than for jackson to take 98% of the budget of film 3 and set it on fire. Then finish the film with things he already owns.

Intestines using rope and red paint. Show the kids how it was done in the old days!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 15, 2013, 07:45:22 pm
I dreamed of seeing Aragorn, charging onto Pelennor Fields waving a flymo. Don't get me wrong I loved LOtR but it did leave me wondering how much cooler it could have been if he'd just said "Yo, fuck going by the book!"
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Junkenstein on January 15, 2013, 07:50:10 pm
Not only would it be cooler, it'd be utterly fucking terrifying.

Dwarves armed with household implements are scary man. Take it from someone who has seen a dwarf charge at someone with a lump hammer in each hand. It's a bad time.


So, you found the production company, I'll secure finance. See you in Aruba.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 15, 2013, 07:51:39 pm
About an hour to get out of the village, an hour for foreshadowing and an action hour. I hear film 3 is apparently a "bridge" so expect various people to turn up as babies and be handed to guardians with appropriately solemn scenes.

I.e -The end of film 3 is just going to be babies being thrown at various people for 40 minutes.

They could just redub Willow and call it a day.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2013, 09:17:15 pm
Not only would it be cooler, it'd be utterly fucking terrifying.

Dwarves armed with household implements are scary man. Take it from someone who has seen a dwarf charge at someone with a lump hammer in each hand. It's a bad time.


So, you found the production company, I'll secure finance. See you in Aruba.

What kind of dwarf? My maternal grandmother's family were Orcadian (ie Viking) dwarves.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Junkenstein on January 15, 2013, 11:04:59 pm
I honestly have no idea, it was about 4ft tall, hairy and screaming. Beyond that I never really considered his heritage.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2013, 04:44:18 am
I honestly have no idea, it was about 4ft tall, hairy and screaming. Beyond that I never really considered his heritage.

Huh. Sounds like my family, all right.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 19, 2013, 11:25:49 am
So I watched Silver Linings Playbook the other night. I love when someone makes a movie about batshit crazy (especially bipolar) that rings true. Makes me fee a bit less lonely in this big old sane-ass world. Give it a watch if you want to understand, not my story, but an essential part of me nonetheless.

Also watched Zero Dark Thirty last night. Kinda dragged. I wouldn't say it endorsed the whole gitmo/rendition thing like a lot of people are accusing. I'd say it's more a case of trying to examine why it happens. These are real people, motivated to do this shit, for what they think are the right reasons and I find that refreshing compared to the "OMG the guy in charge is Satan" bullshit that seems to be the popular explanation. Evil is good people doing bad shit for what they think are the right reasons and this movie paints that picture without making judgments. Also the last half hour (when they raid Bin Laden's place) is fucking excellent. Dunno how accurate it is and I don't give a fuck - it's a movie and it kicks ass.

It's a fucking long movie, tho and, like I said it kinda drags in a lot of places. I reckon cutting it down to about 2 hours might have allowed a better pacing.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 19, 2013, 01:51:47 pm
I went to see Les Miserable.  I'll admit I was expecting quite a bit going in - The King's Speech was a very good movie, there's some decent talent in the cast, and I grew up listening to the songs from the show.

It was fucking garbage.  I would have walked out if I wasn't with my family.  It's not really the performances, I don't think, even Russell Crowe, who sounds like he's trying to sing in whalesong.  I kept expecting Dori from Finding Nemo to pop out and hold the other end of the numerous singing under a mottled night sky upon a precipice scenes he has.  And then you have Anne Hathaway, who even in her relatively small part was completely breathtaking.

The problem with the movie is it doesn't have the fucking guts to be what it is.  It's almost like it apologizes for itself, alternately playing up the epic plot (did I mention Russell Crowe sang on rooftops under a mottled night sky a few times?  guess how many singing in a rainstorm scenes there are?) and then cheesing it up.  There are a lot of weird first person shots, too.

Part of it may have been that we saw it at a shitty theater with bad sound.  I'll give it that much.  When they do Do You Hear the People Sing there weren't any drums.  No drums at all.  THERE WERE NO DRUMS IN A SONG THAT SAYS "WHEN THE BEATING OF YOUR HEART ECHOES THE BEATING OF THE DRUMS."  FUCK.  JUST HAVE ONE GUY DRUMMING, AT LEAST.  That, at least, might have been the theater's fault.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 19, 2013, 03:26:25 pm
I hated Les Mis for the same reason I hated Sweeney Todd - they sing the whole motherfucking script. I can just about handle a decent musical if they sing songs but talk the bits that aren't a song. If they sing fucking everything I get so annoyed listening to it that I can't actually take in what they're saying singing, the upshot of which is I had no fucking idea what was going on by the time it got about 5 mins in.

P3nTGF loved it but I was watching youtube with the headphones plugged into my laptop by the time I'd figured out Anne Hathaway wasn't Wolverines wife.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Half-Eaten Waffle on January 21, 2013, 11:20:11 am
Watched Burlesque with WaffleGF last night. Not a bad movie, though the plot is predictable, to say the least.
Cher was brilliant in it, and her voice is as amazing now as it has ever been.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 21, 2013, 11:59:46 am
The movie Naked Lunch would have been received better if they told you up front it was a magical realism (lit crit definition) telling of how WSB wrote the thing in the first place.  Anyone expecting the book was in for dissapointment.

I hate the magic realism definition for this, it is surrealism with metaphorical imagery. It's one of my favourite movies because it holds the inexplicable ability to be both shocking and grotesque while at the same time being incredibly boring.
It may have something to do with peter wellers voice...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 22, 2013, 10:58:37 pm
You may well be disappointed, then.
I've just finished watching Django there.
It is a really good movie up to a point, the characters are interesting, the bounty hunter apprentice and quest to free the girl were a strong enough premise fleshed out by good acting, interesting characters, humour and intrigue.

And then someone flicks a switch and the story is over but the movie continues for fourty minutes.
I think Tarentino was really passionate about getting the movie up to the point where Candy discovers their true intent, and then immediately lost interest.

The German arbitrarily loses his cool over something he should have well been able to handle, gets shot for his stupidity which starts a badly choreographed drawn out shoot out, and the movie never regains any kind of narrative.

There was an attempt at a Student becomes the Master style thing with the shitty cameo scene where he tricks the slavers goes in for a second lame shoot out in the same house.

Samuel L Jackson as the Evil House Nigger caricature was cool when he is shown as the brains of the operation but ultimately fails to deliver as a threat as the real villain, instead coming off as confused or just cranky, something he's done before in the Spirit.

QT needs to write his endings first because this and Inglorious Bastards just trail off.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on January 27, 2013, 04:35:50 am
Seems like as good a place as any to put this, but everyone read that JJ Abrams will be directing the next Star Wars movie, right? 



Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Eater of Clowns on January 27, 2013, 04:43:58 am
Seems like as good a place as any to put this, but everyone read that JJ Abrams will be directing the next Star Wars movie, right?

I think it's a good thing.  Everything I've seen of his is thoroughly entertaining, if brain candy-ish.  What else can you really hope for?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 27, 2013, 05:01:12 am
Honestly, either way, I won't go see it.

I lost interest when I had my first sexual experience with a woman.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on January 27, 2013, 05:01:37 am
I think at the end of the day, so long as Lucas has less of a stamp on these new movies, they should be improvements. 
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 27, 2013, 05:16:25 am
But still, who cares? The Campbell narritive mythos arc has been told, and then fucked up. The story is dead, finished. No amount of stapled-on subplots will save that.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on January 27, 2013, 05:18:58 am
Cloverfield monster vs. the Ewoks.


C'mon, you KNOW you want to see that.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: AFK on January 27, 2013, 05:21:27 am
Or maybe a buddy-cop movie featuring Lando and Admiral Ackbar.



Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 27, 2013, 05:33:23 am
Or maybe a buddy-cop movie featuring Lando and Admiral Ackbar.

I'd go see this.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 27, 2013, 08:38:05 am
Put it this way, It'll need some seriously cool reviews before I'll even consider wasting a download on it. I tried episode whatever the fuck it was with Liam Neeson, cos I thought "cool - this will remind me of my childhood" Actually went to the cinema. Paid and everything. Left thinking that the story was beyond shit, even for a CGI showreel which, essentially, was all that it was.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 27, 2013, 10:19:58 am
There are only two good star wars movies of the six, while I am sure his movies will  be better then Lucas most recent attempts its still a series that I have no interest in because it is mangled beyond repair.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 27, 2013, 11:52:57 am
Some of the expanded universe materials, such as the Thrawn trilogy, might have made good films.

However, Lucas is refusing to reveal any plot details whatsoever, except that it's an original story not based on any EU materials.  So yeah, it's probably going to be terrible.  Abrams isn't bad, but I don't think he has the necessary Hollywood clout to be able to circumvent Lucas' more self-destructive tendencies.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 27, 2013, 06:07:57 pm
But still, who cares? The Campbell narritive mythos arc has been told, and then fucked up. The story is dead, finished. No amount of stapled-on subplots will save that.

Even The Lion King used it.

GIVE IT A FUCKING REST.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 27, 2013, 06:12:51 pm
The monomyth is a useful device....for video games.

Outside of that medium, it tends to fall flat or be extremely cliche.  As well as theoretically dubious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth#Criticism).
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Dildo Argentino on January 27, 2013, 06:16:07 pm
I've recently watched the last-but-one film by Wes Anderson (I mean in the particular order I'm wathing them), The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou. Tremendous. Surreal, whacky, actually, Discordian. His first feature, Bottle Rocket, is the only one I have yet to see. Then I'll just have to wait.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on February 04, 2013, 09:01:21 pm
Watching Silent Hill: Revelations, as part of my series of trashy films.

I'm already disinclined to dislike the Silent Hill series, being a more boring, less grounded version of Jacob's Ladder.  But then, they made Sean Bean some quivering wimp who gets taken out less than 20 minutes into the film.  Sean Bean.  He doesn't actually die, but he does spend the next hour chained to a statue, doing bugger all.

I am disappoint, film.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 04, 2013, 10:31:16 pm
I liked the look of the first film but, for me, the story was a pointless pile of monkeywank. Second one I didn't like the imagery (except the big guy and the nurses from the first film. Rest was gobshite.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on February 05, 2013, 09:56:01 am
Yeah, can't disagree with that assessment.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on February 11, 2013, 11:43:21 pm
Watched the 1977 Equus.

Goddamn Richard Burton was an amazing actor. It's a pretty tense film and pretty nasty in parts but it's brilliant.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: The Half-Eaten Waffle on March 17, 2013, 09:55:39 pm
Oz: The Great and Powerful.

L. Frank Baum is probably spinning in his grave right now. Still, it's entertaining, at times a tad touching, it looks wonderful, and is a cute little film.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on March 18, 2013, 12:20:47 pm
Saw Django Unchained.   Not quite sure what all the fuss was about.  A fun revenge movie, and naughty little Quentin used a word that was common at the time, but is quite offensive today.  Ok, he used it 110 times, but still.

Although it is interesting that he uses the "historically accurate" argument, when there is SO much wrong historically with the rest of the movie.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 17, 2013, 12:38:17 am
I went to see Man of Steel yesterday. I wasn't impressed. It had lots of nice elements (and was infinitely better then Sucker Punch) but overall it's a film that left me feeling cold.

The studio has had huge successes with the Christopher Nolan Batman Films, and it looks like tonally they wanted to keep this consistent. The problem with having a gritty, morose Superman film is you have to compromise the more goofy aspects of superman. What makes him superman is his boundless compassion and kindness.

So instead we get a brooding introspective Clark (before ever taking on the mild mannered reporter persona), more in line with Bruce Wayne, its a fair take on the character and can work well when examining the character closely.

In this case it is used to examine his Identity Crises in terms of his alien heritage versus his Kansas upbringing. Its intriguing, but it is the only way the character is explored in the film.

(spoilers follow)
The parts that I really liked about this concept were how irreconcilable they are. Pa Kent never encourages him to use his power, even suggesting that perhaps he should let people die rather then get found out.

On the other hand we have Jor El, who is actually the more likeable of the two paternal characters, he leaves the choice up to his son and doesn't suggest he should live one way or an other (in fact Jor El's own words on the matter imply the Kryptonians deserved what happened to them), but he offers him the choice of restoring his people (which incidentally would wipe out the human race in a horrible terraforming).

This is about as far as the exploration went, there's a couple of lines on Eugenics during the punching scenes that make the Kyrtonians look like assholes and in the final confrontation Clark makes his decision and kills Zod. This doesn't bother me.

There are a lot of people out there upset at how "Superman Never Kills", which just isn't true, he can kill whenever a writer writes him to kill. It would be completely out of character if this guy was a symbol of hope, which this movies version isn't.

The problem with it is, they throw in some sobbing afterwards and don't deal with the ramifications. It would work really well saw some of the consequences, some kind of insight into how this changes Clark.
If we got a little sense of what is going through Clarks mind. Instead the movie switches over to superman destroying a spy drone in one of the movies only light hearted scenes. Followed up with him going for the introduction to mild mannered reporter Clark Kent.

It felt waay to casual to convince me that he had no other choice. For the Incarnation of Hope Superman this is NEVER possible. Just as the Joker has Killed over 1000 people because Batman wont kill him. There was no real struggle with the decision or aftermath. It is a story without a proper conclusion and a movie without an ending.

Instead of a well thought out tense and semi tragic compromise we get: "I kill. I do what I want don't spy on me. Now I am the mild mannered reporter everyone smile."

I think Donners Script probably HAD that resolution in it which was left out for the tediously overly long fight scenes and September 11th re-enactment (which I feel too cheap an emotional exploitation for this film).

They are going to be making sequels to this, and I like the actors involved I'd just really like to see someone other then Zack Snyder make them, his films are too goddam joyless and sterile.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 17, 2013, 12:45:42 am
In fact my problem with this movie it is exactly the same as my problem with the watchmen: Snyder focusses in on  the climax ("I did it 35 minutes ago"), while leaving out the resolution of why that's important ("Nothing Ends, Adrian, Nothing EVER ends").
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Telarus on June 17, 2013, 01:25:09 am
Interesting, considering I ran into this:

https://plus.google.com/118107718720313034250/posts/95xdpGRB5K1
Allen Varney
Shared publicly  -  10:23 AM
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Official licensed, corporate-approved sermon outlines and resources for ministers to promote the new film Man of Steel to their congregation. Superman clearly isn't strong enough to drive moneylenders from the temple.

http://manofsteelresources.com/

(Via Jim Lowder.)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 17, 2013, 09:31:16 am
Well it makes sense it goes against the Kryptonian ungodly way of reproducing. And he's less like Jesus in this movie then he has ever been on screen. Dean Cain included.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on July 14, 2013, 07:49:45 pm
Noooooooooo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)

Quote
stars Keanu Reeves and an ensemble of Japanese actors.

 :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:

 :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Count Chocula on July 14, 2013, 08:38:13 pm
Sharknado. Ian Ziering, Tara Reid. Lookout Citizen Kane!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 14, 2013, 10:23:40 pm
Noooooooooo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)

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stars Keanu Reeves and an ensemble of Japanese actors.

 :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:

 :argh!:

Having burned through all the pre-Code talkies I could find, I'm now watching silents.
Fuck Keanu Reeves. Lon Chaney Sr. FTW.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on July 19, 2013, 08:21:13 pm
The film Super starring Rainn Wilson and Ellen Page is the whimsical story of a hapless, earnest man whose drug and alcohol abusing wife goes back to old habits, which propels him to do good in the world by becoming a real super hero...

...until it becomes a film about Ellen Page's character raping Rainn Wilson's character...

...at which point I stopped watching.

Well done, assholes, and thanks for the imagery.

0/10.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on July 19, 2013, 08:27:42 pm
Wait, WHAT?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on July 19, 2013, 08:34:58 pm
Yeah, seriously.

It's also ANOTHER film in which Ellen Page is inappropriately infatuated with a much older man with whom she has no business being infatuated with.

I don't get it.

It was weird. It also got extremely violent out of nowhere. And, it's just bleh.

Also, like God Bless America, it seemed to glorify extreme revenge for petty acts, without any sense of satire.

Maybe I missed it.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on February 24, 2014, 04:11:09 am
Motherfucking Stagecoach.

I was given a copy of the 1986? TV starring the Highway Men (Johnny Cash, Willie Nelsn, Waylon Jennings, Krist Kristofferson).

It was pretty entertaining, I like quite a few Westerns.

Last night I watched the original, the one that Orsen Wells watched over and over while making Citizen Kane.

Here are my thoughts:

WHAT IN THE FUCK WAS WRONG WITH THOSE ASSBAGS?

Firstly, I really dislike the element of casually using Native Americans as two dimensional villain hordes, for obvious reasons.
That said, the remake does acknowldge this, with Willie Nelson talking about how he admires Geronimo, and how he was just doing what anybody facing overwhelming odds and exterminaton would do.  I seem to recall Kurt Vonnegut making similar statments in regard to suicide bombers.

Ok, as for the purely artistic perspective.

The original Stagecoach is pretty perfect. It uses humor but is not a comedy, there are no needless lines or scenes, it touches on quite a few issue with subtly and grace. Social pariahs (The Whore and the Jailbird), hypocritical bankers and their effect on America (quite early and astute), the way that people come together under duress. And when The Lady decides that The Whore ain't all that bad, but can't possibly allow herself to comprimise her own social status it is done with such subtly and grace...I can hardly describe it. Certainly no better than those fine actors. The Disgraced Gentleman is handled quite well, and his near use of his last bullet to save The Lady from being taken alive is pretty brilliant. The Drunk Doctor is pretty damned great. All in all, from beginning to end, this movie is perfect.

So why, in the sake of fuck, those country music stars felt it necassary to improve on this is totally beyond me.

Willie Nelson is Doc Holiday insteady of some Drunk Doctor? Doc Holiday who died at, what, 35? I put that to self-indulgance. He really liked Doc Holiday and wanted badly to play him on TEEVEE. Ok, fine. Whatever. The Whore is totally re-written to be an much older and cynical character. Stupid. In the original this character is like any other woman with no other options or resources who is villainaized heavily by her community. In the remake, this character is resigned to not finding a lover who lasts. Bleh. Flat, unintersting. Almost  comical.

The wiskey salesman is made british, presumably to get in a dig at the british which takes all of the subtly laid down conflict between a newly reunited union who have no choice but to live amongst one another again. Perhaps to avoid southern apologetics that the Highway Men must surely have been prone to? Who knows.

The Lady is not really interesting either, perhaps in order to add to the importance of the country music stars? Also, she just doesn't really shine. Not that anyone does in the remake. As I said, it is fairly entertaining.

But that is just it. The original Stagecoach is art, care woven into every frame. The remake is just a bunch of jerks playing movie stars because they can. Though, I will say, none of them are really shitty actors.

One last note, and this really gets to me.

When the Drunk Doctor smokes a cigar in the stagecoach, it very obviously bothers The Lady. Once the doctor realizes his error, he puts it out. When Doc Holiday does so, The Gentleman uses the same line, "A gentleman does not smoke the presence of a lady." but Doc Holiday says, "I hope you don't mean to suggest I am anything but.' BECAUSE HE IS SO BADASS.

The Lady in the remake doesn't mind at all. Not at all.

What shit. What horrible shit. GAHD.

There, I feel better.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:30:34 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/861/frog_bump.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on January 13, 2017, 03:31:13 am
ELF IS CLEARLY THE MOST TERRIFYING MOVIE OF ALL TIME.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on January 13, 2017, 03:33:55 am
I don't know...Troll 2 is pretty frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on January 13, 2017, 03:35:02 am
I don't know...Troll 2 is pretty frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOD!
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 03:48:22 am
That is truly the most terrifying movie ever made.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 13, 2017, 08:56:36 am
It's not as painful as "Manos"
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 01:19:48 pm
It's not as painful as "Manos"

When even MST3K can't save a movie....
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 04:33:41 pm
It's not as painful as "Manos"

This seems like as good a time as any to mention that Mannose is an important sugar in Cell biology, so throughout Cell bio whenever the professor would talk about Mannose, my lab partner Peter and I would start snickering like children.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 04:45:20 pm
Desperately unfunny nerd humor.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 13, 2017, 05:00:55 pm
I want to get that overlaid on the red hand cloak that Manos wears.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 05:12:52 pm
I want to get that overlaid on the red hand cloak that Manos wears.

Ohhh I think that's doable. Searching...
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 05:35:59 pm
The line model didn't show up and I was too lazy to make it white, so here is this janky approximation.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 13, 2017, 05:56:49 pm
 :lulz: The first and last positive thing to come out of that film
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 05:57:18 pm
:lulz: The first and last positive thing to come out of that film

 :lulz: I'm glad I could help with that.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: LMNO on January 13, 2017, 06:20:37 pm
To be fair, I used Torgo's knees as a simile when I had gout.  Unfortunately, no one got the reference.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 13, 2017, 08:12:07 pm
To be fair, I used Torgo's knees as a simile when I had gout.  Unfortunately, no one got the reference.

Aw shit, I missed that completely. To be fair.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Freeky on January 14, 2017, 02:35:02 am
It's not as painful as "Manos"

When even MST3K can't save a movie....

To be fair, the PSAs that preceded it were excellently bizarre.

To be fair, I used Torgo's knees as a simile when I had gout.  Unfortunately, no one got the reference.

Aw shit, I missed that completely. To be fair.  :lulz:

Damn, Nigel got there first. :argh!:
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on January 15, 2017, 02:20:05 am
Watched "The Lobster" last night.

I liked it. It wasn't perfect, but it did make me laugh a lot. Very weird premise, certainly.

Things I liked:
Single people either falling in love or turned into animals.
Getting to choose what kind of animal you want to turn into.
Not showing the process or explaining it very well because it's not needed and would spoil things a bit.

Things I didn't like:
It was sort of overloaded, I think they tried to do a touch too much and should have scaled back just a tiny bit.
That's really it, actually. It was dreamy and a lot of long shots, that's ok, but should always have its limits, IMO.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2017, 03:54:29 am
So goddamn much metaphor.

I liked it anyway, though.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 15, 2017, 10:23:22 am
I found it very hard to enjoy the lobster, it was filmed about 20 minutes from my home, most of it taking place in the Parknasilla hotel, and pretty much all the extra's are from the village (my aunt is playing in the band in the ballroom scene), the effect being it killed the immersion for me.

Funny bit of trivia from the actors though that my aunt got: They were all instructed to deliver the lines in the most emotionless way possible (maybe with a hint of anxiety), which they said is really hard for an actor because they are doing their best to get into the characters mind and bring them to life, they said it was much harder then acting for other films.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2017, 03:39:50 pm
I found it very hard to enjoy the lobster, it was filmed about 20 minutes from my home, most of it taking place in the Parknasilla hotel, and pretty much all the extra's are from the village (my aunt is playing in the band in the ballroom scene), the effect being it killed the immersion for me.

Funny bit of trivia from the actors though that my aunt got: They were all instructed to deliver the lines in the most emotionless way possible (maybe with a hint of anxiety), which they said is really hard for an actor because they are doing their best to get into the characters mind and bring them to life, they said it was much harder then acting for other films.

It had the rather interesting effect of making it all seem like it was written by children.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 15, 2017, 03:55:44 pm
Might have been the intention considering the subject material.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 15, 2017, 07:55:32 pm
Might have been the intention considering the subject material.

Yeah, that was the impression I got. I liked the effect; almost fairy-tale like.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on January 18, 2017, 02:46:41 am
I saw Swiss Army Man.

...I'm not sure what I thought of it, exactly.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on January 18, 2017, 08:52:45 am
Is it enjoyable? Seems like weird sense of humour, my favourite film of last year was the Greasy Strangler, would I like this?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on January 18, 2017, 02:08:05 pm
Is it enjoyable? Seems like weird sense of humour, my favourite film of last year was the Greasy Strangler, would I like this?

I haven't seen Greasy Strangler, but I did enjoy it. It's bizarre, and I didn't much care for the end, but it was certainly like no other film I have seen before. I would say give it a try.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Salty on May 31, 2017, 08:17:38 pm
I strongly recommend The Wonderful Whites of West Virginia.

For one thing, it makes a few Hank 3 songs make sense. It also is incredible all around.

Poor, Appalachian family, the absolute epitome of poor White folks. These people have been so beaten down by family trauma and poverty. Their ancestors, if I had to guess, were probably brought over as indentured servants.

It doesn't sound hilarious, and at times it is deeply sad. But it is very worth watching.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 11:09:55 am
Anyone else watching twin peaks?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2017, 11:12:00 am
Anyone else watching twin peaks?

I keep meaning to, but haven't yet had the time.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 11:22:21 am
David Lynch is mean, and the first few episodes are a real hard watch (deliberately so), he loves having people shuffling around doing nothing to build tension, but then the most recent episode... It's kind of an origin story for Bob if you could call it that. It's very abstract, beautiful, confusing and harrowing. It's more Eraserhead then Twin Peaks, and the balls of them to put it on TV impressive.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Cramulus on June 27, 2017, 01:12:04 pm
I'm about 2.5 episodes deep and I'm loving it. It feels like Lynch is doing a lot of stuff that a normal TV producer would never let him get away with.

It makes me why he ragequit it at one point, and then had all the actors make a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO934i9uO1c) begging Showtime (?) to hire him back - what's the backstory to that?
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 03:10:48 pm
I'm about 2.5 episodes deep and I'm loving it. It feels like Lynch is doing a lot of stuff that a normal TV producer would never let him get away with.

It makes me why he ragequit it at one point, and then had all the actors make a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO934i9uO1c) begging Showtime (?) to hire him back - what's the backstory to that?

He demanded total creative control, and showtime wanting to have the exclusive on the new Twin Peaks gave him the OK because they were sure it was to be a success.

The creative freedom shows, some of these episodes are pure art house.
The show was only starting to feel a little like twin peaks at episode 6/7, like broken pieces gradually being assembled, make fans start thinking the old Twin Peaks was just around the corner, and then it went pure symbolism with book of revelations style narrative for episode 8.

Also if the dialog sounds stilted for those first few episodes, its because each cast member could only see their lines in the script.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on June 27, 2017, 04:08:49 pm
David Lynch is mean, and the first few episodes are a real hard watch (deliberately so), he loves having people shuffling around doing nothing to build tension, but then the most recent episode... It's kind of an origin story for Bob if you could call it that. It's very abstract, beautiful, confusing and harrowing. It's more Eraserhead then Twin Peaks, and the balls of them to put it on TV impressive.

I am watching it, and I loved the most recent episode. The best part was my wife and I laughing afterwards about how much people online were going to loathe it, however most reviews and reactions I saw were almost entirely positive. Some site described it as "the most sublime hour of television ever". I was very impressed.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Faust on June 27, 2017, 04:29:48 pm
It was awesome, I'm not surprised that it's getting good reviews, when abstract or surrealist material is portrayed people often get irritated or bored, but this tends to be if the pacing is too slow or the imagery is incomprehensible.

Episode 8 from the start of that sequence, from beginning to end was very clearly something really bad is happening, building up upon the images shown, building coherent nightmarish story: some of the symbols meanings are cryptic, but their implication and the overall gist is clear that some bad shit is going down.
Title: Re: Film Flam
Post by: Hoopla on June 27, 2017, 04:42:23 pm
It was awesome, I'm not surprised that it's getting good reviews, when abstract or surrealist material is portrayed people often get irritated or bored, but this tends to be if the pacing is too slow or the imagery is incomprehensible.

Episode 8 from the start of that sequence, from beginning to end was very clearly something really bad is happening, building up upon the images shown, building coherent nightmarish story: some of the symbols meanings are cryptic, but their implication and the overall gist is clear that some bad shit is going down.

I have thoughts on the meaning of the message relayed over the airwaves, but perhaps this thread is not the best place.