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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Requia ☣ on April 22, 2010, 04:44:30 am

Title: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 22, 2010, 04:44:30 am
Cause if I don't make a place to put all this stuff Arizona is gonna gum up the whole board.

The latest?
Quote
PHOENIX (AP) - The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for re-election.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/politics/state_politics/house-oks-birther-bill-4-19-2010
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 22, 2010, 04:45:43 am
 :lulz:

Today, Barack stated that AZ will put Access back, or lose ALL federal funding.  They put it back.

This must be payback.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 22, 2010, 04:49:25 am
Access to what?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 22, 2010, 04:55:21 am
Access to what?

Access is our state insurance plan for poor folks, and most especially their kids.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 22, 2010, 05:09:16 am
AHCCCS, pronounced "access"

Really, he did? I'm pretty sure that's awesome, considering my monkey and I are both on it. I'm pretty cool with Obama at the moment, now. :)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 22, 2010, 06:13:59 am
I'd also like to point out that the ads on FoxPhoenix's website are the kind of horrid shit I expect when I'm on the worst  parts of the internet.  Penny Stocks, seriously?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 24, 2010, 04:22:45 am
Quote
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., closed down his Tucson and Yuma district offices Friday afternoon, after a man called the Tucson office twice threatening to "come in there and blow everybody's head off," and then go to the U.S.-Mexico border to "shoot any Mexicans that try to come across," an aide says.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/04/23/raul_grijalva_closes_office_due_to_threats
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on April 24, 2010, 04:40:22 am
Yeah, so the Governor signed the immigration reform law today.  And it is really precious that she thinks she will head of racial profiling by issuing an executive order to put together a training manual.  Nobody reads training manuals. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on April 24, 2010, 04:45:22 am
FUCK HER.

I hope she loses the "Hispanic Vote" and all the other "Hispanic Voters" vote AGAINST the GOP EVERYWHERE.

This is the kind of shit that happens in bad economic times.  Blaming the immigrants.  Illegal and otherwise.

LIKE WE ALL ORGINATED HERE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on April 24, 2010, 04:48:01 am
Cause if I don't make a place to put all this stuff Arizona is gonna gum up the whole board.

The latest?
Quote
PHOENIX (AP) - The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for re-election.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/politics/state_politics/house-oks-birther-bill-4-19-2010

So...Arizona...the NEW Texas?  New Florida?

Or :?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 24, 2010, 05:10:25 am
New Germany.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Reginald Ret on April 24, 2010, 07:18:41 am
You would think people knew that the kind of people who immigrate (brave and active go-getters) are good for teh economy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 24, 2010, 04:39:36 pm
You would think people knew that the kind of people who immigrate (brave and active go-getters) are good for teh economy.
But.. but... THEY TOOK OUR JERBS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLni3wbndls)!!!1!!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 24, 2010, 05:45:43 pm
I love this state.  Well, South of Picacho, anyway.

Only a place as wretched as Picacho would be able to stop the avalanche of evil that comes from Phoenix and Tempe.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on April 26, 2010, 02:16:28 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2010, 02:18:16 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.

But I need my eyes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on April 26, 2010, 02:19:37 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.

But I need my eyes.

Hence the "/from your pov" ... ;)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2010, 02:21:31 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.

But I need my eyes.

Hence the "/from your pov" ... ;)

Well, I've been trying to do that.  You'll have to come see for yourself.

Remember the 21 day rule.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 26, 2010, 04:22:05 am
http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

The open racism has officially stared, a truck driver was arrested for not having a birth certificate with him.

Note that the date on the article is *before* the bill was signed into law.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on April 27, 2010, 02:06:39 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.

But I need my eyes.

Hence the "/from your pov" ... ;)

Well, I've been trying to do that.  You'll have to come see for yourself.

Remember the 21 day rule.

You'll have to restate, but I getcher meaning.  And that's why I wanna do it.  I've BEEN to Phoenix and Tempe.  Twice.  Lived to tell about it.  And that's about it...it was Hell while it lasted.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2010, 02:50:47 am
Rog, one of these DAYS I want to see AZ with your eyes/from your pov.  I think that would do me some good.

But I need my eyes.

Hence the "/from your pov" ... ;)

Well, I've been trying to do that.  You'll have to come see for yourself.

Remember the 21 day rule.

You'll have to restate, but I getcher meaning.  And that's why I wanna do it.  I've BEEN to Phoenix and Tempe.  Twice.  Lived to tell about it.  And that's about it...it was Hell while it lasted.

That's because they have no souls there.  We have souls, but no fucking brains.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on April 27, 2010, 06:46:51 am
HAW HAW! You guys are redneckerier than Florida!

GOOD JOB ASSHOLES!!


 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2010, 03:12:15 pm
HAW HAW! You guys are redneckerier than Florida!

GOOD JOB ASSHOLES!!


 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:


 :lulz:

Check your voicemail from yesterday.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on April 27, 2010, 05:21:44 pm
I did! It was GREAT!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on April 28, 2010, 02:00:21 am
Say good bye to tourism, AZ

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2767709820100427

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Opponents of the state immigration law, the toughest on the books in the United States, urged travelers to avoid the tourism-dependent Grand Canyon state and for business groups and other organizations to hold their conventions elsewhere.

The Arizona Hotel and Lodging Association said six organizations had canceled conventions in the state, including the 11,000-member Immigration Lawyers Association, which had planned to hold its annual fall meeting in Scottsdale.

"There is widespread indignation not only in Arizona but throughout the country, and where people are under siege, they will look for ways to fight back," said Pablo Alvarado, executive director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

Your state is going to be bankrupt by Friday, Dok!!!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 28, 2010, 02:10:54 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:27:42 am
Say good bye to tourism, AZ

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2767709820100427

Quote
Opponents of the state immigration law, the toughest on the books in the United States, urged travelers to avoid the tourism-dependent Grand Canyon state and for business groups and other organizations to hold their conventions elsewhere.

The Arizona Hotel and Lodging Association said six organizations had canceled conventions in the state, including the 11,000-member Immigration Lawyers Association, which had planned to hold its annual fall meeting in Scottsdale.

"There is widespread indignation not only in Arizona but throughout the country, and where people are under siege, they will look for ways to fight back," said Pablo Alvarado, executive director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network.

Your state is going to be bankrupt by Friday, Dok!!!

It was bankrupt last fall, dude.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:28:19 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 28, 2010, 02:30:24 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.

 :horrormirth:

I wonder what'll happen to the gem show next year.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:32:35 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.

 :horrormirth:

I wonder what'll happen to the gem show next year.

Yeah.  I wonder.  50,000 foreigners worrying about whether their papers are in order?

Good fucking luck.  They'll move it to Albaquerque.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 02:33:02 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:33:55 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:

Hahahaha!  YOU CANNOT CLOSE THE REDNECK GAP!  WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 28, 2010, 02:35:06 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.

 :horrormirth:

I wonder what'll happen to the gem show next year.

Yeah.  I wonder.  50,000 foreigners worrying about whether their papers are in order?

Good fucking luck.  They'll move it to Albaquerque.

Yep. :kingmeh: This is one of the funniest(?) things to happen in AZ since I've started paying attention.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:36:51 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.

 :horrormirth:

I wonder what'll happen to the gem show next year.

Yeah.  I wonder.  50,000 foreigners worrying about whether their papers are in order?

Good fucking luck.  They'll move it to Albaquerque.

Yep. :kingmeh: This is one of the funniest(?) things to happen in AZ since I've started paying attention.

Betcha it gets funnier between now and Brewer's next election.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 02:38:19 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:

Hahahaha!  YOU CANNOT CLOSE THE REDNECK GAP!  WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE!

Hopefully the potential impact on tourism will nix it.

On the other hand, apparently the GOP wants to replace Bob Bennet with Jason Chaffetz, the guy who thinks concentration camps for illegals is A-OK.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 28, 2010, 02:38:36 am
Sheriff Joe is going to come under fire for this, if only because he's screwing with the economy.

Here's hoping, anyway.

Keep dreaming.  He's a religious figure around here.  Rednecks fuck in his shadow to ensure conception.

 :horrormirth:

I wonder what'll happen to the gem show next year.

Yeah.  I wonder.  50,000 foreigners worrying about whether their papers are in order?

Good fucking luck.  They'll move it to Albaquerque.

Yep. :kingmeh: This is one of the funniest(?) things to happen in AZ since I've started paying attention.

Betcha it gets funnier between now and Brewer's next election.

I might make silly decisions based solely on the improbability of a thing happening, but I won't take a bet AGAINST a sure thing, Dok. :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on April 28, 2010, 02:44:55 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:

I predict a strong correlation between states that adopt similar laws and states who are suing to make Health Care Reform unconstitutional. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 02:47:25 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:

I predict a strong correlation between states that adopt similar laws and states who are suing to make Health Care Reform unconstitutional. 

Ya think?   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 28, 2010, 03:32:45 am
Oh hey, some asshole legislator in utah wants to copy that immigration bill now.


:facepalm:
I'm actually surprised at this.  Not that its being done but that its not Butters suggesting it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 28, 2010, 03:39:19 am
On the other hand, apparently the GOP wants to replace Bob Bennet with Jason Chaffetz, the guy who thinks concentration camps for illegals is A-OK.

We may as well, the GOP will make that the party line soon, and its not like Bennet is ever going to buck the party.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 07:15:01 am
I misread the article actually, they want to dump Bennet for some other asshole and keep Chaffetz cause he's cozy with the teabaggers.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on April 28, 2010, 10:41:01 pm
Dok, I think I've caught whatever you've got, I can't even bring myself to be pissed off over this.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 28, 2010, 10:43:31 pm
Dok, I think I've caught whatever you've got, I can't even bring myself to be pissed off over this.

Get mad at the sun for rising.  They're only ignorant rednecks, they don't actually have a choice in how they act.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 29, 2010, 03:04:21 am
http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

The open racism has officially stared, a truck driver was arrested for not having a birth certificate with him.

Note that the date on the article is *before* the bill was signed into law.

Hahahahaha

Quote
A representative at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) returned 3TV’s calls after researching the incident and she said this was standard operating procedure.
The agents needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone's birth certificate.  She also said this has nothing to do with the proposed bill or racial profiling.

Yep. It's officially begun.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on April 29, 2010, 05:05:44 am
This shit actually kinda fucking scares me.



a little
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on May 01, 2010, 09:01:03 pm
More  :lulz:

Quote
The Arizona Department of Education recently began telling school districts that teachers whose spoken English it deems to be heavily accented or ungrammatical must be removed from classes for students still learning English.
linky (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575213883276427528.html)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 01, 2010, 11:56:11 pm
Oh my fucking god

There are whole TOWNS in AZ where the primary language is Spanish because IT'S BEEN SPANISH FOR CENTURIES. WTF WTF WTF.

How is this even legal?

Also, my kids' science teacher speaks with a heavy German accent... as does my friend R, a very respected biochemist. Should they be prohibited from teaching? That's just fucking stupid.

Richard Feynman had a heavy Boston accent, maybe he should have been banned from teaching.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 02, 2010, 12:00:33 am
Holy shit  :lulz:

Wait, whose going to teach the ESL classes if people that actually speak Spanish aren't allowed to talk to the kids that don't know a word of English?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: N E T on May 02, 2010, 12:10:14 am
Quote
Bertroche said, when referring to illegal immigrants, that "We should catch 'em, we should document 'em, make sure we know where they are and where they are going. I actually support microchipping them. I can microchip my dog so I can find it. Why can't I microchip an illegal?"

Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-cubias/how-did-arizona-drive-us_b_559829.html)

:mullet:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nast on May 02, 2010, 12:13:29 am
Quote
Bertroche said, when referring to illegal immigrants, that "We should catch 'em, we should document 'em, make sure we know where they are and where they are going. I actually support microchipping them. I can microchip my dog so I can find it. Why can't I microchip an illegal?"

Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-cubias/how-did-arizona-drive-us_b_559829.html)

:mullet:

It's okay because they're not people, they're illegals!
          \
:mullet:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Template on May 02, 2010, 12:40:57 am
More  :lulz:

Quote
The Arizona Department of Education recently began telling school districts that teachers whose spoken English it deems to be heavily accented or ungrammatical must be removed from classes for students still learning English.
linky (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575213883276427528.html)

And how good is the Department's English?  Can anyone ask the board to reassign themselves?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 08, 2010, 04:49:40 am
(http://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/crayola-arizona.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 08, 2010, 04:51:34 am
 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 10, 2010, 12:39:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-1KJL_Vcj8&feature=popular
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 10, 2010, 03:07:59 am
:facepalm:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Brotep on May 10, 2010, 05:24:22 am
My uncle got into a rant about this earlier today, which he followed up with "Barack Obama hates America"  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:32:54 pm
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=12466514

Doobie doobie doooooo, just another night in Tucson.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 12, 2010, 07:05:25 pm
Another night?  Just how many murders do you get in Tucson?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 07:11:47 pm
Another night?  Just how many murders do you get in Tucson?

It's hard to get real data, because the city is quick to label unimportant ones as "death by misadventure".

But you have a 1 in 99 chance on any given night of being the victim of a violent crime.  That's skewed, of course, as your odds in the OV are about 1 in 10000 per night, etc.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 12, 2010, 07:18:41 pm
Holy fuck?  I thought there were only a million people in metro Tucson.  How do you drive people that crazy?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 12, 2010, 09:56:10 pm
Holy fuck?  I thought there were only a million people in metro Tucson.  How do you drive people that crazy?

There is a reason Tucson is a horrible place. The land itself is sentient. It is angry. It hates us all.

The land beneath Tucson was once beneath a great sea. And it slept in the cool dark. The seas receded, and the land was awoken by the heat and sun and air and wind. It was angry, for it wanted to return to the quiet and constant night it once had. New kinds of life sprung into being, and the land became angrier still. When man came to build his cities, the land was wrathful, and drove him to insanity, but man would not – could not – leave. The land wanted man to pay for the scars he had put upon it, and would not allow him to leave. It wanted him to pay.

It took his dreams and broke them. It took his will and crushed it. It gave him no chance of escape. And man became lost, there in the desert, though he did not realize it. And it gave the land grim satisfaction to cause man great suffering. And man multiplied, and the land became more enraged and more delighted, had more lives to destroy.

It still yearns for sleep, the land. Until then it will take we who remain and play with us as the dog plays with a stuffed toy – shredding us to bits, leaving us when there is nothing left of us. The land is angry. It is joyful. It hates us all.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 11:13:20 pm
Whooaaah...  Freeky.

:mittens:  x <big number>
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 12, 2010, 11:21:44 pm
That was very, very good Freeky.  I could feel the sandy despair.

 :mittens:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 12:12:06 am
Holy fuck?  I thought there were only a million people in metro Tucson.  How do you drive people that crazy?

It's Tucson.

*shrug*

Also, what Freeky said.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 13, 2010, 12:17:53 am
Sounds like a place even Napalm couldn't harm.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on May 13, 2010, 12:24:48 am
They probably use it to cool off on hot days.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 12:32:17 am
Sounds like a place even Napalm couldn't harm.

Not sure.  What's the melting point of meaningless despair?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 13, 2010, 12:41:18 am
ITT Pixie is happy I never moved and decided adultery was a better idea than staying with the eejit I married.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 13, 2010, 12:52:47 am
Ethnic studies are now illegal in Arizona:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/12/AR2010051200329.html?hpid=moreheadlines

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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed a bill targeting a school district's ethnic studies program, hours after a report by United Nations human rights experts condemned the measure.

State schools chief Tom Horne, who has pushed the bill for years, said he believes the Tucson school district's Mexican-American studies program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

Public schools should not be encouraging students to resent a particular race, he said.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne said.

The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

But it's not about race.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 13, 2010, 12:56:28 am
America may be doomed Roger, but your state is doomed first. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 13, 2010, 01:01:51 am
Paul Revere would have warned the British to avoid Arizona.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 04:59:31 pm
America may be doomed Roger, but your state is doomed first. :lulz:

Oh, hell yeah.  Listening to White people whining about being racially oppressed is music to my ears, the exact sort of music I'd like to think the band played as the Titanic went down.

Look upon Arizona, ye Americans, and despair.  This is your future.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 05:17:46 pm
I actually think that Arizona is going to make itself an object lesson for the rest of the country. It's kind of like a small miracle, watching this unfold before our eyes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 05:20:17 pm
I actually think that Arizona is going to make itself an object lesson for the rest of the country. It's kind of like a small miracle, watching this unfold before our eyes.

Unfortunately, Utah and a few other states are seriously considering emulating this Jim Crow shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on May 13, 2010, 05:42:48 pm
I actually think that Arizona is going to make itself an object lesson for the rest of the country. It's kind of like a small miracle, watching this unfold before our eyes.

Unfortunately, Utah and a few other states are seriously considering emulating this Jim Crow shit.
That's Utah, Utah is shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 05:48:59 pm
I actually think that Arizona is going to make itself an object lesson for the rest of the country. It's kind of like a small miracle, watching this unfold before our eyes.

Unfortunately, Utah and a few other states are seriously considering emulating this Jim Crow shit.
That's Utah, Utah is shit.

Also, Texas (SURPRISE!!!), Louisiana, Arkansas (again, shocker), and about 5 others.  So far.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 06:03:43 pm
They can emulate it all they want; they'll still be backpedaling like motherfuckers when the shit hits the fan in AZ, which it will.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 06:05:08 pm
I want to see Arkansas start firing teachers on the basis of having an "accent".  :lulz: Does pronouncing "wash" with an r count?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on May 13, 2010, 06:52:46 pm
Personally, I want to see them start going after Americans with non-rhotic accents (like around Boston).

It's "car" not '"cah" there's a bloody "r" in it!  :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 06:57:15 pm
They can emulate it all they want; they'll still be backpedaling like motherfuckers when the shit hits the fan in AZ, which it will.

You're assuming things will get better.  Or that the horrible old racists in Phoenix will allow silly little things like the collapse of our economy or world-wide scorn to influence them.

Funny thing:  Right now, many Americans are kind of ashamed of Arizona, and sort of wish it was in another country...But the way they view Arizona is the way much of the rest of the world views America as a whole.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 13, 2010, 07:11:52 pm
Personally, I want to see them start going after Americans with non-rhotic accents (like around Boston).

It's "car" not '"cah" there's a bloody "r" in it!  :argh!:

We have the same amount of "r"s as the rest of the country.  We just redistribute them.  Did you know "soda" has an "r" in it?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on May 13, 2010, 07:24:23 pm
Personally, I want to see them start going after Americans with non-rhotic accents (like around Boston).

It's "car" not '"cah" there's a bloody "r" in it!  :argh!:

We have the same amount of "r"s as the rest of the country.  We just redistribute them.  Did you know "soda" has an "r" in it?
Socialist scum with your redistribution.

It's people like you that make Sarah Palin cry!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 07:47:54 pm
They can emulate it all they want; they'll still be backpedaling like motherfuckers when the shit hits the fan in AZ, which it will.

You're assuming things will get better.  Or that the horrible old racists in Phoenix will allow silly little things like the collapse of our economy or world-wide scorn to influence them.

Funny thing:  Right now, many Americans are kind of ashamed of Arizona, and sort of wish it was in another country...But the way they view Arizona is the way much of the rest of the world views America as a whole.

Oh, I KNOW things will get better... and by "better" I mean unfathomably worse.

If I was a cop in Arizona right now, I would be pulling white people over left and right, demanding their passports or birth certificates. I would fucking hang out near a school and take mothers to jail for transporting kids who "might be aliens" without documentation. I'd hang out near the capitol building and detain fucking politicians if they weren't packing their papers. Also, whatever the paperwork is to get a teacher fired for having an accent, I would be filling it out on anyone with any kind of regional US accent. Use the system to make it eat itself. Why this is not already happening left and right is beyond me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 13, 2010, 07:53:58 pm
Enforcing this shit on white people would get a cop fired.  For racism.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 07:59:37 pm
Enforcing this shit on white people would get a cop fired.  For racism.



Be worth it though, especially if you could get a whole cadre of people to do it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 08:00:41 pm
They can emulate it all they want; they'll still be backpedaling like motherfuckers when the shit hits the fan in AZ, which it will.

You're assuming things will get better.  Or that the horrible old racists in Phoenix will allow silly little things like the collapse of our economy or world-wide scorn to influence them.

Funny thing:  Right now, many Americans are kind of ashamed of Arizona, and sort of wish it was in another country...But the way they view Arizona is the way much of the rest of the world views America as a whole.

Oh, I KNOW things will get better... and by "better" I mean unfathomably worse.

If I was a cop in Arizona right now, I would be pulling white people over left and right, demanding their passports or birth certificates. I would fucking hang out near a school and take mothers to jail for transporting kids who "might be aliens" without documentation. I'd hang out near the capitol building and detain fucking politicians if they weren't packing their papers. Also, whatever the paperwork is to get a teacher fired for having an accent, I would be filling it out on anyone with any kind of regional US accent. Use the system to make it eat itself. Why this is not already happening left and right is beyond me.

It's times like this that I wish I'd stayed in the biz.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 13, 2010, 08:07:52 pm
They can emulate it all they want; they'll still be backpedaling like motherfuckers when the shit hits the fan in AZ, which it will.

You're assuming things will get better.  Or that the horrible old racists in Phoenix will allow silly little things like the collapse of our economy or world-wide scorn to influence them.

Funny thing:  Right now, many Americans are kind of ashamed of Arizona, and sort of wish it was in another country...But the way they view Arizona is the way much of the rest of the world views America as a whole.

Oh, I KNOW things will get better... and by "better" I mean unfathomably worse.

If I was a cop in Arizona right now, I would be pulling white people over left and right, demanding their passports or birth certificates. I would fucking hang out near a school and take mothers to jail for transporting kids who "might be aliens" without documentation. I'd hang out near the capitol building and detain fucking politicians if they weren't packing their papers. Also, whatever the paperwork is to get a teacher fired for having an accent, I would be filling it out on anyone with any kind of regional US accent. Use the system to make it eat itself. Why this is not already happening left and right is beyond me.

It's times like this that I wish I'd stayed in the biz.  :lulz:

I know! Oh, the missed opportunities!  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Triple Zero on May 13, 2010, 09:49:42 pm
Holy fuck?  I thought there were only a million people in metro Tucson.  How do you drive people that crazy?

There is a reason Tucson is a horrible place. The land itself is sentient. It is angry. It hates us all.

The land beneath Tucson was once beneath a great sea. And it slept in the cool dark. The seas receded, and the land was awoken by the heat and sun and air and wind. It was angry, for it wanted to return to the quiet and constant night it once had. New kinds of life sprung into being, and the land became angrier still. When man came to build his cities, the land was wrathful, and drove him to insanity, but man would not – could not – leave. The land wanted man to pay for the scars he had put upon it, and would not allow him to leave. It wanted him to pay.

It took his dreams and broke them. It took his will and crushed it. It gave him no chance of escape. And man became lost, there in the desert, though he did not realize it. And it gave the land grim satisfaction to cause man great suffering. And man multiplied, and the land became more enraged and more delighted, had more lives to destroy.

It still yearns for sleep, the land. Until then it will take we who remain and play with us as the dog plays with a stuffed toy – shredding us to bits, leaving us when there is nothing left of us. The land is angry. It is joyful. It hates us all.

That's pretty much what I think of the cities Almere and Emmeloord in our polders .... :)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Golden Applesauce on May 14, 2010, 02:24:53 am
Wasn't there a part in the Arizona bill where it explicitly allowed anybody to sue the state if they didn't enforce the law?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 03:36:37 am
I must say that i dont mind the new legislation

the oddity in making a new bill to remove cultural studies from public school is a bit... er, odd.

but the whole giving the police the same abilities as the border patrol just seems to be on par with what should have been in their abilities in the first place


most people have been warped by the shitty opinion-news that CNN spews forth from its foamy gullet as it shakes its fingers at anyone who their masters tell them to, so they dont actually know what the bill does

but once i went and read through it, it is, as i said, on par with what should have been anyways.

the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

in fact, i was told when i came to AMURRRIKAH that you are required by law to carry a state id at all times anyways

so the bill doesn't really change anything

all it changes is that if you are pulled over/arrested/held and can't prove your are a citizen (I.E. YOU DONT HAVE YOUR MOTHERFUCKING ID ON YOU) then you are detained, investigated, and deported if no proof can be shown (as in no one brings an id for you, you aren't in the system, etc etc)


all the mexinazis spewing the san diego plan downtown are doing nothing but bitching for the sake of bitching. before, the border patrol was called. now, the police can deal with it themselves. BIG FUCKING CHANGE, NE?

And now, Austin is jumping into the Ignorance pool, and is quoted as saying that it "wants to be sure that its employees are not subjected to unfounded detention." How is it "Unfounded" if they are motherfucking ILLEGALLY HERE? if their fucking employees are NOT illegal, they have nothing to worry about.

and California, fuck 'em all. i am not even going to bother to shoot down every statement they have given on the matter, because if i have to correct that much stupidity in one post, i will feel as if i am grading a kinder-gardeners calculus worksheet. I DONT HAVE THAT MANY RED PENS TO CROSS OUT YOUR MORONIC STATEMENTS, CALI. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET IN THE CHOPPAH.

but alas, this fact will be ignored by the masses, the CNNazis will continue their hateful tirade filled with conjecture, ignorance, and opinion, people will take it as fact, a conspiracy theory will be formulated, and AZ will ignore it all as we sit in our desolate hell of a state sipping on muddy water willed with e-coli and the tears of the desperate, and slowly dry-rot into the ground as the lizards feast on what was once a state that was filled with people who attempted to hope and in turn received no answer to their wanting beyond death...

EDIT: i figured i would put this here before someone starts throwing the racist card: i am all for LEGAL immigration, obviously. fuck, everyone in the US is or is descended from an immigrant. i just refuse to accept the unchecked tide of illegal immigration that is flowing forth. NO OTHER COUNTRY WOULD STAND FOR IT. NO OTHER COUNTRY ALLOWS IT. EVERY COUNTRY HAS THEIR OWN ANTI-ILLEGAL-IMMIGRATION LAWS. the fact that we are trying to be proactive about ebbing the flow of this tide of illegal immigrants shouldn't be frowned upon. Before people bash the bill, perhaps they should read it to the point of comprehension and understanding, ne?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:44:10 am
I must say that i dont mind the new legislation

the oddity in making a new bill to remove cultural studies from public school is a bit... er, odd.

No it isn't.  The law only affects Tucson.  It's punishment for not enforcing the immigration reform bill.


but the whole giving the police the same abilities as the border patrol just seems to be on par with what should have been in their abilities in the first place

Well, sure.  Local yokels should be enforcing federal laws.  And dogcatchers should be chasing bankrobbers.

most people have been warped by the shitty opinion-news that CNN spews forth from its foamy gullet as it shakes its fingers at anyone who their masters tell them to, so they dont actually know what the bill does

but once i went and read through it, it is, as i said, on par with what should have been anyways.

the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

in fact, i was told when i came to AMURRRIKAH that you are required by law to carry a state id at all times anyways

so the bill doesn't really change anything

all it changes is that if you are pulled over/arrested/held and can't prove your are a citizen (I.E. YOU DONT HAVE YOUR MOTHERFUCKING ID ON YOU) then you are detained, investigated, and deported if no proof can be shown (as in no one brings an id for you, you aren't in the system, etc etc)


all the mexinazis spewing the san diego plan downtown are doing nothing but bitching for the sake of bitching. before, the border patrol was called. now, the police can deal with it themselves. BIG FUCKING CHANGE, NE?

but alas, this fact will be ignored by the masses, the CNNazis will continue their hateful tirade filled with conjecture, ignorance, and opinion, people will take it as fact, a conspiracy theory will be formulated, and AZ will ignore it all as we sit in our desolate hell of a state sipping on muddy water willed with e-coli and the tears of the desperate, and slowly dry-rot into the ground as the lizards feast on what was once a state that was filled with people who attempted to hope and in turn received no answer to their wanting beyond death...

I didn't realize you were a teabagger, Manubu.

CNNazis?  For fucking real?

MexiNazis?

Tell me you're fucking joking.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: N E T on May 14, 2010, 03:45:19 am
We've got a live one.

"Mexinazis"? Really?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 14, 2010, 03:45:27 am
 :rush:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:46:00 am
We've got a live one.

"Mexinazis"? Really?

Fucked part, I know this guy IRL.

Didn't realize he was a teabagger.  I feel kinda dirty now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:50:51 am
MexiNazis.

For fuck's sake. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 14, 2010, 03:55:31 am
haven't you watched Beck's show... EVERYTHING is related to Nazis now days
hell even the commies are not Nazis
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:56:23 am
(http://ctpatriot1970.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/glenn-beck.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:57:22 am
haven't you watched Beck's show... EVERYTHING is related to Nazis now days
hell even the commies are not Nazis

Yeah, but I know Manubu.  I've known him for like 3 years.

How could I know him for that long and not realize he's a damn teabagger?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:07:12 am
i dont think i get the teabagger reference

and holy shit that is alot of quick responses that i didnt see


i have been dealing with people in downtown phoenix who havent read the bill. that, and a constant stream of jeff walker has made me actually read it so i could see what was and wasn't conjecture

and do you guys know of the san diego plan? its a fucking nazi approach to clensing the 'land that belongs to mexico' the occupied mexico blah blah blah

so to me, they are mexican nazis. they were talking of how mexicans are the only ones with the right to live, especially in AZ, NM, and CA, and that cleansing the land of anyone who isnt mexican is the only solution...

hence the stream of death threats that was issued on cinco de mayo which stated anyone who didnt look full mexican was going to be shot/stabbed/killed on the spot if they were spotted outside that night
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:09:44 am
i dont think i get the teabagger reference

and holy shit that is alot of quick responses that i didnt see


i have been dealing with people in downtown phoenix who havent read the bill. that, and a constant stream of jeff walker has made me actually read it so i could see what was and wasn't conjecture

and do you guys know of the san diego plan? its a fucking nazi approach to clensing the 'land that belongs to mexico' the occupied mexico blah blah blah

so to me, they are mexican nazis. they were talking of how mexicans are the only ones with the right to live, especially in AZ, NM, and CA, and that cleansing the land of anyone who isnt mexican is the only solution...

hence the stream of death threats that was issued on cinco de mayo which stated anyone who didnt look full mexican was going to be shot/stabbed/killed on the spot if they were spotted outside that night

So basically, a few radicals damns the entire ethnic group inside of the borders of America?  They're "MexiNazis"?

That initial rant of yours was pure Glenn Beck (right down to "MexiNazis), so I'd be a little more circumspect in claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is the slave of the "main stream media".

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:10:56 am
Incidentally, exactly how many Hispanics are part of this "San Diego Plan"?

And links to the death threats concerning Cinco De Mayo?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:11:45 am
and, at risk of double-post-faggotry, i know that local law enforcement wif powah etc etc can be bad, but the fact that the border patrol isn't far better leads me to believe that their only difference is who is writing their paychecks. i may be wrong in this, as i am known to be at times due to limited knowledge of the majority and only knowing what i have seen and dealt with, but eh. i will be shot either way so shoot me

and i wasn;t making a reference to all mexicans, simply the majority that i have seen involved in this. i am far from making a statement on a whole etc etc
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:12:56 am
Also, considering you're all good with one Jim Crow law, how are you about the law permitting the state to refuse to hire/fire English teachers who "have a heavy accent"?

(And come to think of it, how do you decide when an accent is "heavy"?)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 14, 2010, 04:14:07 am
i dont think i get the teabagger reference

and holy shit that is alot of quick responses that i didnt see


i have been dealing with people in downtown phoenix who havent read the bill. that, and a constant stream of jeff walker has made me actually read it so i could see what was and wasn't conjecture

and do you guys know of the san diego plan? its a fucking nazi approach to clensing the 'land that belongs to mexico' the occupied mexico blah blah blah

so to me, they are mexican nazis. they were talking of how mexicans are the only ones with the right to live, especially in AZ, NM, and CA, and that cleansing the land of anyone who isnt mexican is the only solution...

hence the stream of death threats that was issued on cinco de mayo which stated anyone who didnt look full mexican was going to be shot/stabbed/killed on the spot if they were spotted outside that night

solution is quite simple...
start acting more Mexican

But then of course you will get pulled over for being a possible illegal, so...

yay my plan sucks
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:14:20 am
and, at risk of double-post-faggotry, i know that local law enforcement wif powah etc etc can be bad, but the fact that the border patrol isn't far better leads me to believe that their only difference is who is writing their paychecks. i may be wrong in this, as i am known to be at times due to limited knowledge of the majority and only knowing what i have seen and dealt with, but eh. i will be shot either way so shoot me

and i wasn;t making a reference to all mexicans, simply the majority that i have seen involved in this. i am far from making a statement on a whole etc etc

Hey, no problem.  We'll just erase all jurisdictional boundaries and have animal control officers writing speeding tickets.  

And "the majority you have seen involved in this"?  How many is that?  Where were they?  
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:14:34 am
Incidentally, exactly how many Hispanics are part of this "San Diego Plan"?

And links to the death threats concerning Cinco De Mayo?
i kind of wish i had taken a picture. the huge group downtown in the protests and such on the multiple days that it spanned were constantly shouting about the san diego plan loud enough to hear from my house

and every sign i seen (granted i cant see very far and these signs could have simply been the ones that worked their way to the outskirts on the three sides of the mobs i seen) had either the words "San Diego Plan" or the outright full plan written on the sign itself...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:17:38 am
Incidentally, exactly how many Hispanics are part of this "San Diego Plan"?

And links to the death threats concerning Cinco De Mayo?
i kind of wish i had taken a picture. the huge group downtown in the protests and such on the multiple days that it spanned were constantly shouting about the san diego plan loud enough to hear from my house

That's odd, because Freeky and my daughter were right across the street from the protest after leaving Hydra, and - according to my daughter - never heard anything about the "San Diego Plan".

and every sign i seen (granted i cant see very far and these signs could have simply been the ones that worked their way to the outskirts on the three sides of the mobs i seen) had either the words "San Diego Plan" or the outright full plan written on the sign itself...

Let me google some pics from the demonstration.  BRB.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:19:46 am
Also, considering you're all good with one Jim Crow law, how are you about the law permitting the state to refuse to hire/fire English teachers who "have a heavy accent"?

(And come to think of it, how do you decide when an accent is "heavy"?)
what of my nature from the years you have known me screams 'i accept everything if i accept one thing'?

i am always case-by-case

considering i was a fucking 'outsider' growing up i am all against racism, as i had to deal with it myself. its fucking ignorant. i am not for the profiling etc etc, but by the lay of the bill that in itself is illegal and you can still sue if you feel that you were profiled. and i know that is an issue with the bill having passed, and acknowledge such, but seeing as how nearly everyone in arizona looks a bit mexican how can you profile anyways? unless you are to stop everyone on bogus charges just to get id, but then that would be shot down just as quick as making those traps for dunkards etc etc

dont go overboard and think that i am one of those 'they tuk our jabs' bitches who is the exact opposite of those who were getting the crowds to try to get involved in their cleanisng bullshit. hypocrisy is not for me, thanks
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:20:44 am
(http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/7a/99/a4deb44cfe407eb8c0aa7bdca3bf-grande.jpg)

Not seeing anything about a San Diego Plan.

Also, googled "tucson demonstration immigration reform San Diego Plan" and all I got was a pile of right wing nutjob blogs.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:22:01 am

dont go overboard and think that i am one of those 'they tuk our jabs' bitches who is the exact opposite of those who were getting the crowds to try to get involved in their cleanisng bullshit. hypocrisy is not for me, thanks

Haven't seen any evidence that there was any cleansing being proposed.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:29:09 am

dont go overboard and think that i am one of those 'they tuk our jabs' bitches who is the exact opposite of those who were getting the crowds to try to get involved in their cleanisng bullshit. hypocrisy is not for me, thanks

Haven't seen any evidence that there was any cleansing being proposed.
absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.

i will stand down as i didnt take any pictures, etc etc, i didnt expect the board to scream so fucking much for me putting my input in.

I stated my observations, and will admit i didnt see the entire protest, but what i seen of it, and the parts of it that came through the neighborhood down here threateneing me and anyone outside saying that the threats were in effect, call me a white devil (which was amusing) and the several dozen signs that were being walked up and down first friday in phoenix that prompted me to figure out what the fuck the san diego plan was in the first place since i had seen it in the protest as well etc etc...

and from accounts of those i inquired it was rife through the rest of their experience too. i guess i just never thought that i would need evidence, ya know?



and i am pretty sure that what i saw coming happened, and the urge to actually read the bill was lost...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:35:40 am
i guess i just never thought that i would need evidence, ya know?

This is PD.  We have a fairly high standard of debate.  Or we just throw big lops of monkey poo at each other.  Depends what day of the week it is.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Manabu on May 14, 2010, 04:43:14 am
i guess i just never thought that i would need evidence, ya know?

This is PD.  We have a fairly high standard of debate.  Or we just throw big lops of monkey poo at each other.  Depends what day of the week it is.


duly noted. next time i venture out of Or Kill Me i will bring pictures.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:47:59 am
i guess i just never thought that i would need evidence, ya know?

This is PD.  We have a fairly high standard of debate.  Or we just throw big lops of monkey poo at each other.  Depends what day of the week it is.


duly noted. next time i venture out of Or Kill Me i will bring pictures.

Probably for the best.

This is Tucson, after all.  The people you saw may not have been Mexicans.  They might not have actually been people.  They could have been some horrible apparition caused by the fact that your house is built smack on top of the Rotarian Club's ancient burial grounds.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 14, 2010, 06:56:37 am
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Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 14, 2010, 08:11:13 am
the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

At least one person has already been detained despite having a drivers license with him.  So no, a drivers license is not considered valid by the cops. 

The man in question was probably not suspected of anything either (it happened when he stopped at a truck weigh station), but I'll concede that it is possible there was some irregularity not mentioned by the news.

If you actually read the law (I have by the way) you'll find that:

A) All immigrants must carry a green card at all times (this was already federal law, but they have upped the penalty in Arizona from 100 dollars to 500 dollars, a jail sentence, and deportation).  A driver's license is not proof of legal residence.  Even if it was proof of legal residence, it does not fulfill the requirement of the green card, as per the text of the bill.

B) A cop has full authority to decide if a person is an immigrant.  So even if he has no evidence a person is an immigrant (legal or otherwise), they can be detained for not having a green card on them.

C) Deportation is now mandatory for parking tickets and jaywalking (any fine levied by the government, at all, requires deportation).

Please read the fucking bill before responding.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 02:14:03 pm
So Roger...a friend of yours?


Hawk,
sitting on his typing fingers.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on May 14, 2010, 02:23:53 pm
"MexiNazis"??  :lulz:

so over here in Discordia we have this word Fnord, which has meant a lot of things over time, but this one guy used it in a book. Wikipedia says it represents "disinformation or irrelevant information intending to misdirect, with the implication of a worldwide conspiracy".

It refers to emotionally charged words being used out of context, so as to whip people up into a frenzy. For example the word SOCIALISM is a fnord-word, or TERRORISM. If you use it in a sentence, no matter the context, it whips up the intensity of that sentence without adding any meaning.

"Nazi" is one of those fnord-words which has been so overused (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) that it no longer has any meaning except to point out how hysterical you are.

What you said:

Those Mexicans are an objectively evil force who should be seen as the ENEMY
They are racists who torture innocent jews
                       /
     :spag2:



What we heard:

Those Damn Dirty Spics are Takin' Our Jabs!
                        /
      :mullet:



also, repost from the political pix thread, but it should be in this thread too:


(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/bin/arizona_5-6_01.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 02:27:02 pm
Fuck.

Well, I'm actually fucking glad San Diego is being bandied about like this, in that particular manner.  Fuck + yeah.

ETA:  I was hoping that we would GET AWAY from this bullshit notion that racial profiling even WORKS.  But hearing apologetics and the screaming about ILLEGALS! ILLEGALS! from anyone who LIKES this fucking bill makes me think it's the last ditch effort of the lazy and gadabouts.

...you can TELL an ILLEGAL by his FOOTWEAR?

Fuck you.

You think So. CA didn't used to belong to Mexico and WASN'T swindled away by the US government?

Fuck you.

You think you don't (sorry, forgot that edit) have more rights here than the so-called illegals who work for pennies on the dollar so you can buy your fucking strawberries for $1.99 a pound?

Fuck you.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 02:38:17 pm
the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

At least one person has already been detained despite having a drivers license with him.  So no, a drivers license is not considered valid by the cops. 

The man in question was probably not suspected of anything either (it happened when he stopped at a truck weigh station), but I'll concede that it is possible there was some irregularity not mentioned by the news.

If you actually read the law (I have by the way) you'll find that:

A) All immigrants must carry a green card at all times (this was already federal law, but they have upped the penalty in Arizona from 100 dollars to 500 dollars, a jail sentence, and deportation).  A driver's license is not proof of legal residence.  Even if it was proof of legal residence, it does not fulfill the requirement of the green card, as per the text of the bill.

B) A cop has full authority to decide if a person is an immigrant.  So even if he has no evidence a person is an immigrant (legal or otherwise), they can be detained for not having a green card on them.

C) Deportation is now mandatory for parking tickets and jaywalking (any fine levied by the government, at all, requires deportation).

Please read the fucking bill before responding.

:mittens:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on May 14, 2010, 02:43:17 pm
Manabu, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but did you know that there are thousands of infractions on the books which are usually not enforced?

What that means is that, if the cops want to pull you over or question you, you are already probably violating a handful of laws as we speak.  They don't need an obvious reason, they've got dozens of unobvious reasons.

And let's not forget "acting suspiciously".  That's always precious.


Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Triple Zero on May 14, 2010, 02:47:55 pm
The word MexiNazi just makes me think of food. A combination of the Indonesian fried rice dish (Nasi Goreng) and .. uh .. chilli beans nachos (cause anything with chilli beans and nachos and corn is marketed as "mexican" by our Dutch UniLever overlords) :lol:



Also, correct me if I'm wrong here, does this new law really mean that if any [mexican looking] person gets held up by the police, and they can't produce ID, they get detained [per default] and if found to be really illegal, are deported instantly? I picked up something about them not even getting a phonecall to notify family or friends where they are taken? Or am I mistaken?

Cause that's fucked up. Illegal or not. We got loads of problems with illegal immigrants in the Netherlands [although the big crime problems with "foreigners" are mostly caused by the legal morrocans, not the illegal ones from war-ridden country XYZ], but we at least put them into an asylum-seekers centre until it's been figured out what's up. Of course I can imagine it to be somewhat different if the originating country is right over the border instead of some country far away.

But still, humans are humans. And no matter what, even the simple fact that this law is going to promote blatant police [and civilian] racism, should be enough to take a step back and think about a better solution to the problem.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 02:50:28 pm
Yes, Trip.  And I'm sure you can realize it's the slippery slope of this law that's actually what galls and angers.  This is let out of the bag--and going BACK is always harder than forging forward.

Rights, once lost, are MUCH harder to gain again.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on May 14, 2010, 02:54:17 pm
a fun fact I just learned:

Quote from: http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_fence_to_nowhere
Studies by economists and sociologists alike have consistently failed to show a significant direct effect of migrant labor on the employment rates and income levels of domestic groups, including African Americans. Instead, studies by immigration scholars Frank D. Bean, Gillian Stevens, Michael J. Rosenfeld, and Marta Tienda, among others, point to a pattern of labor market segmentation in which undocumented immigrant workers crowd at the bottom of the market in menial service and low-paid industrial jobs, while domestic workers predominate in higher-paid clerical and administrative occupations. The spin-off effect of immigration in stimulating the growth of higher-paid occupations for domestic workers is entirely neglected by the nativists.
(emphasis mine)


and:

Quote
Border militarization has not been without its consequences, however, and those consequences have generally been the opposite of what was intended. Because coming to the United States has become so expensive and arduous, immigrants who cross the border seldom return home. Instead, they bring their families along as soon as possible. Hence, border enforcement, which has not succeeded in stopping the unauthorized flow, has succeeded in keeping these immigrants bottled up on the American side of the border. The policy has been instrumental in creating a large and growing unauthorized foreign population in the United States, exactly the opposite of what advocates of that policy intended. Not incidentally, the unauthorized status of this population leads directly to its vulnerability in the labor market, and, hence, to exploitative practices. These practices would not happen if immigrant workers had the legal means to fight them.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 02:58:53 pm
Quit clouding the discussion with facts, Cram!  This is about your right as a white American to pick strawberries for a living!  Sheesh!


(actually, :mittens:, Dawg, for finding some actual great commentary on the research)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 03:07:36 pm
So Roger...a friend of yours?


Hawk,
sitting on his typing fingers.

Type away.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 03:30:20 pm
I must say that i dont mind the new legislation (losing more freedom to protect me)

the oddity in making a new bill to remove cultural studies from public school is a bit... er, odd. (illegal and bigoted)

but the whole giving the police the same abilities as the border patrol just seems to be on par with (keeping brown fuckers in their place)what should have been in their abilities in the first place


most people have been warped by the (fear mongering right diverting attention away from the real issues in this country) shitty opinion-news that CNN spews forth from its foamy gullet as it shakes its fingers at anyone who their masters tell them to, so they dont actually (believe what Fox news says)know what the bill does

but once i went skimmed and read picked out the sound bytes through it, it is, as i said, on par with what should have been anyways.(to keep smudgies out of my country)

the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT BROWN OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID (MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT DUE LEGAL PROCESS)IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

in fact, i was told when i came to AMURRRIKAH that you are required by law to carry a state id at all times anyways  (O RLY)

so the bill doesn't really change anything   :cn:

all it changes is that if you are pulled over/arrested/held and can't prove your are a citizen (I.E. YOU DONT HAVE YOUR MOTHERFUCKING ID ON YOU TO THEIR SATISFACTION) then you are detained, investigated, and deported if no proof can be shown (as in no one brings an id for you, you aren't in the system, etc etc)


all the mexinazis  (STFU BIGOT) spewing the san diego plan downtown are doing nothing but bitching SEEKING RIGHTS for the sake of bitching A BETTER LIFE. before, the border patrol was called. now, the police can deal with it  beat them senseless themselves. BIG FUCKING CHANGE, NE?

And now, Austin is jumping into the Ignorance  due process pool, and is quoted as saying that it "wants to be sure that its employees are not subjected to unfounded detention." How is it "Unfounded" if they are motherfucking ILLEGALLY HERE? ( Can you say innocent until proven guilty or are you saying every brown person on the planet is illegal?) if their fucking employees are NOT illegal, they have nothing to worry about.

and California, fuck 'em all. i am not even going to bother to shoot down every statement they have given on the matter, because if i have to ,correct that much stupidity in one post acknowledge civil rights i will feel as if i am grading a kinder-gardeners calculus worksheet my knowledge of the American legal system. I DONT HAVE THAT MANY RED PENS TO CROSS OUT YOUR  MY MORONIC STATEMENTS, CALI. SO I WILL SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET IN THE CHOPPAH.

but alas, this fact will be ignored by the masses, the CNNazis will continue their hateful tirade filled with conjecture, ignorance, and opinion,(AS OPPOSED TO FOX) people will take it as fact, a conspiracy theory will be formulated, and AZ will ignore it all as we sit in our desolate hell of a state sipping on muddy water willed with e-coli and the tears of the desperate, and slowly dry-rot into the ground as the lizards feast on what was once a state that was filled with people who attempted to hope and in turn received no answer to their wanting beyond death... WUT?

EDIT: i figured i would put this here before someone starts throwing therealizing I am a racist card: i am all for LEGAL immigration (to OTHER states), obviously. fuck, everyone in the US is or is descended from an immigrant. i just refuse to accept the unchecked tide of illegal immigration that is flowing forth. NO OTHER COUNTRY WOULD STAND FOR IT. NO OTHER COUNTRY ALLOWS IT. EVERY COUNTRY HAS THEIR OWN ANTI-ILLEGAL-IMMIGRATION LAWS. NO OTHER COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON IMMIGRATION. the fact that we are trying to be proactivePROTECTIONIST about ebbing the flow of this tide of illegal immigrants shouldn't be frowned upon. Before people bash  I support the bill, perhaps they should read it to the point of comprehension and understanding, ne?


Fixed that for ya.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on May 14, 2010, 03:40:26 pm
Whoa.  Not bad for a redneck.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 03:44:55 pm
Whoa.  Not bad for a redneck.


Hawk,
thoroughly fed up with cowards surrendering rights based on hysterical screaming.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:13:54 pm
Well, the first bill is odious in intent, if not in the actual wording.  The only actual change is that the locals are now trying to do the federal government's law enforcement.

It was the test-bed for the other Jim Crow laws that immediately followed it:  "Accent" tests on teachers, banning (not just discontinuing) ethnic studies, etc.

More will be following.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 04:20:34 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:22:25 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.

I'm waiting for misegnation laws and retroactive cancellation of amendment XIV, clause 1.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 04:25:09 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.

I'm waiting for misegnation laws and retroactive cancellation of amendment XIV, clause 1.

Fine. BUT DAMNED IF I PICK YOUR FUCKING CABBAGE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:26:52 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.

I'm waiting for misegnation laws and retroactive cancellation of amendment XIV, clause 1.

Fine. BUT DAMNED IF I PICK YOUR FUCKING CABBAGE.

You'll fight for the right to pick cabbage, and like it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 14, 2010, 04:27:38 pm
Yes, Trip.  And I'm sure you can realize it's the slippery slope of this law that's actually what galls and angers. 

What slippery slope?  This is 169% pure Jim Crow.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 14, 2010, 04:29:05 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.

I'm waiting for misegnation laws and retroactive cancellation of amendment XIV, clause 1.

Fine. BUT DAMNED IF I PICK YOUR FUCKING CABBAGE.

You'll fight for the right to pick cabbage, and like it.

That may e accurate enough to be frightening.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 14, 2010, 06:38:02 pm
Maybe, just maybe, if Americans stopped buying so much Mexican dope then the country would stand a chance of developing more and with it the ability to create more jobs.

These bill make me sick to my stomach. I am having flashbacks to the prejudice the blacks had to overcome and here it comes again except pointed at brown people.

There's also the whole flooding Mexico with cheap US government subsidized corn thing, which put some 1.3 million Mexican farmers out of a job.

Guess where they went to find more work?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on May 14, 2010, 07:03:08 pm
Yes, Trip.  And I'm sure you can realize it's the slippery slope of this law that's actually what galls and angers. 

What slippery slope?  This is 169% pure Jim Crow.


Slipping back INTO the Jim Crow era.  At state level, true, but how many states are eyeing this with a view to emulation now?  Too many.  It won't reach Federal level, and CA will be at the forefront to stopping it (hopefully, though our fucking Prop 8 law belies that, unfortunately).

In fact, I think it started, this fucking pendulum swing, with Prop 8 (fuck you UT-based Mormons and your $30m you infused into that campaign).

But this particular anti-immigrant shit always happens when the economy worsens.  It's just, this time, the fucking states are bankrupt all over the place, but instead of R&D investments to enrich their educational capital that leads to eventual rises in income ALL AROUND, they've taken the low road.

I spit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Golden Applesauce on May 15, 2010, 03:22:46 am
in fact, i was told when i came to AMURRRIKAH that you are required by law to carry a state id at all times anyways

so the bill doesn't really change anything

This is patently false.  I'm not saying no one ever told you that, but it has never been legally required to carry a state ID.  Not the least because there are no state IDs (some states are considering it, but AFAIK none of them have passed it yet.  Could be wrong though.)  What I think you're referring to is what is called a "driver's license," which is a state-issued certificate that allows you to operate a lethal weapon (motor vehicle) on public roads.  I'm pretty sure people with temp visas can get driver's licenses, which means that they are in no way a proof of citizenship.




but alas, this fact will be ignored by the masses, the CNNazis will continue their hateful tirade filled with conjecture, ignorance, and opinion, people will take it as fact, a conspiracy theory will be formulated, and AZ will ignore it all as we sit in our desolate hell of a state sipping on muddy water willed with e-coli and the tears of the desperate, and slowly dry-rot into the ground as the lizards feast on what was once a state that was filled with people who attempted to hope and in turn received no answer to their wanting beyond death...

So now they get both death and deportation?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cait M. R. on May 15, 2010, 03:44:49 am
in fact, i was told when i came to AMURRRIKAH that you are required by law to carry a state id at all times anyways

so the bill doesn't really change anything

This is patently false.  I'm not saying no one ever told you that, but it has never been legally required to carry a state ID.  Not the least because there are no state IDs (some states are considering it, but AFAIK none of them have passed it yet.  Could be wrong though.)  What I think you're referring to is what is called a "driver's license," which is a state-issued certificate that allows you to operate a lethal weapon (motor vehicle) on public roads.  I'm pretty sure people with temp visas can get driver's licenses, which means that they are in no way a proof of citizenship.

Yes there are. I have one in my wallet right now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on May 15, 2010, 03:46:45 am
I used to have one myself.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on May 15, 2010, 04:00:34 am
I think Satzanfang meant ID you're required to carry. You can get a regular state ID but it's not required.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on May 15, 2010, 04:06:42 am
There are most definitely state IDs, and I don't mean driver's licenses. But, citizens are not required to carry them ever (and you're not issued one unless you ask, and I think pay a fee). It's not a bad idea to have it on you, but it's far from required.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on May 15, 2010, 04:19:12 am
That was my impression as well, based on the research of some people I once went protesting with.  You're allowed to go about your business with no ID.  While wearing a mask, even.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Golden Applesauce on May 15, 2010, 04:26:38 am
 :oops:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2010, 11:57:19 pm
A quick question for all of you US citizens:

How many of you carry your birth certificate (in combination with your State ID) or your passport everywhere you go?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: N E T on May 16, 2010, 12:02:31 am
A quick question for all of you US citizens:

How many of you carry your birth certificate (in combination with your State ID) or your passport everywhere you go?

Hell no, never.

Only for Official Business™.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2010, 12:07:35 am
Yeah, I leave that shit safely filed at home, personally. Maybe I should start carrying it in my purse along with my Social Security card, amirite?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on May 16, 2010, 12:21:31 am
I only carry my license. Ever.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 16, 2010, 05:10:27 pm
A quick question for all of you US citizens:

How many of you carry your birth certificate (in combination with your State ID) or your passport everywhere you go?

What your forgetting is that all Latin Americans are immigrates. It's impossible for any of them to be born in the US.
Impossible.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: the last yatto on May 16, 2010, 09:43:41 pm
a conspiracy theory will be formulated


YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!!!

what about if we allow the illegals to stay if they agree to be chipped or wear a note pinned to their chest
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 16, 2010, 11:34:54 pm
a conspiracy theory will be formulated


YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!!!

what about if we allow the illegals to stay if they agree to be chipped or wear a note pinned to their chest

You mean like pinning a star to their clothes?  :innocent:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 17, 2010, 06:24:38 am
(http://www.spagbook.com/images/eff.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on May 17, 2010, 10:37:15 am
(http://www.disc0rd.com/images/eff.jpg)



Classic.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 17, 2010, 04:44:00 pm
(http://www.disc0rd.com/images/eff.jpg)

 :sad: I'm forbidden from seeing it?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2010, 04:45:24 pm
A quick question for all of you US citizens:

How many of you carry your birth certificate (in combination with your State ID) or your passport everywhere you go?

What your forgetting is that all Latin Americans are immigrates. It's impossible for any of them to be born in the US.
Impossible.

 Especially in Arizona. :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: N E T on May 17, 2010, 09:59:09 pm
(http://www.disc0rd.com/images/eff.jpg)

 :sad: I'm forbidden from seeing it?

It says:

REASONABLE SUSPICION
HOW TO DETERMINE A SUSPECT'S CITIZENSHIP STATUS

1.   Obtain copy of Suspect's Birth Certificate or other State- or
Federally-issued identification. Compare document to Suspect.
2.   If identification document is printed on paper more than
three (3) shades lighter than Suspect's skin tone, SUSPECT IS
ILLEGAL.
Arrest and detain.

I don't know where Vex found it, but it looks legit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 17, 2010, 10:52:29 pm
I can see it now. That was weird.

And that pic is fucked up. :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 19, 2010, 11:06:29 pm
Arizona Official Threatens to Cut Off Los Angeles Power as Payback for Boycott

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/19/arizona-official-threatens-cut-los-angeles-power-payback-boycott/

Quote
A member of Arizona's top government utilities agency threw down the gauntlet in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution for the city's boycott of Arizona.


If Los Angeles wants to boycott Arizona, it had better get used to reading by candlelight.

That's the message from a member of Arizona's top government utilities agency, who threw down the gauntlet Tuesday in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa by threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution.

Gary Pierce, a commissioner on the five-member Arizona Corporation Commission, wrote the letter in response to the Los Angeles City Council's decision last week to boycott the Grand Canyon State -- in protest of its immigration law -- by suspending official travel there and ending future contracts with state businesses.

Noting that a quarter of Los Angeles' electricity comes from Arizona power plants, Pierce threatened to pull the plug if the City Council does not reconsider.

"Doggone it -- if you're going to boycott this candy store ... then don't come in for any of it," Pierce told FoxNews.com.

In the letter, he ridiculed Villaraigosa for saying that the point of the boycott was to "send a message" by severing the "resources and ties" they share.

"I received your message; please receive mine. As a statewide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the 'resources and ties' we share with the city of Los Angeles," Pierce wrote.

"If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation."

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 19, 2010, 11:07:37 pm
If Pierce does that, the last trickle of our revenue vanishes.

And LA goes dark.

 :lulz:

I LOVE THIS DECADE!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 19, 2010, 11:10:06 pm
If Pierce does that, the last trickle of our revenue vanishes.

And LA goes dark.

 :lulz:

I LOVE THIS DECADE!

It hardly seems fair for us to have so many lulz when others have so few. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 19, 2010, 11:19:54 pm
I have the desire to fuck with the bigamist after I get my divorce.

I have his MySpace but it cannot be added without his email address.

Ah maricopa county, I hate you!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 20, 2010, 08:00:00 am
Arizona Official Threatens to Cut Off Los Angeles Power as Payback for Boycott

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/19/arizona-official-threatens-cut-los-angeles-power-payback-boycott/

Quote
A member of Arizona's top government utilities agency threw down the gauntlet in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution for the city's boycott of Arizona.


If Los Angeles wants to boycott Arizona, it had better get used to reading by candlelight.

That's the message from a member of Arizona's top government utilities agency, who threw down the gauntlet Tuesday in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa by threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution.

Gary Pierce, a commissioner on the five-member Arizona Corporation Commission, wrote the letter in response to the Los Angeles City Council's decision last week to boycott the Grand Canyon State -- in protest of its immigration law -- by suspending official travel there and ending future contracts with state businesses.

Noting that a quarter of Los Angeles' electricity comes from Arizona power plants, Pierce threatened to pull the plug if the City Council does not reconsider.

"Doggone it -- if you're going to boycott this candy store ... then don't come in for any of it," Pierce told FoxNews.com.

In the letter, he ridiculed Villaraigosa for saying that the point of the boycott was to "send a message" by severing the "resources and ties" they share.

"I received your message; please receive mine. As a statewide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the 'resources and ties' we share with the city of Los Angeles," Pierce wrote.

"If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation."

 :lulz:

I found this bit interesting

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The law requires local law enforcement to try to verify the immigration status of anyone they have contact with whom they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. It empowers them to turn over verified illegal immigrants to federal custody. The legislation explicitly prohibits screening people based solely on race or national origin.

I know that's kind of required, but what is going to cause a law enforcement officer to suspect someone is illegal aside from race or national origin?  It does say solely though, so I guess the cop could say "Well, he's hispanic, and he was eating a taco, the taco was the real kicker"

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on May 27, 2010, 10:06:54 pm
 :lulz: Arizona State Senator to Challenge 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (http://politicalreformer.com/2010/05/22/arizona-state-senator-to-challenge-14th-amendment-to-the-u-s-constitution-an-historical-pespective/)
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Russell Pearce is at it again.  Mr. Pearce is the state senator who authored SB1070, the Arizona law which obligates police to make an attempt, whenever practicable — to determine a person’s immigration status if there is reasonable suspicion that the individual is in the country illegally, following a stop by law enforcement.  Now, Phoenix news station KPHO is reporting that his next target is the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  That amendment, which guarantees some of the nation’s most important citizenship rights related to equal protection and due process, was passed in 1868, during the aftermath of the Civil War.  In the 142 years since, it has become one of the great foundations of American Law.

According to the KPHO news report, State Senator Pearce has stated that he intends “to push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen.”  Although clarification of Pearce’s statement will be necessary in the days ahead, it is clear that he is, in effect, seeking to nullify section 1 of the 14th Amendment, which states:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

As to whether his proposal will discriminate against birth mothers, Pearce has included documents from supporters which back his efforts, including one that rationalizes the likelihood of this bias:  ”If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother.  Call it sexist,” the supporter says, “but that’s the way nature made it.  Men don’t drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do.”  Anchor baby is a reference used by anti-immigrant groups to derisively describe an American-born child whose parents are undocumented.
Just a few days ago, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul of Kentucky caused a national firestorm over objections he made to key provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Fair Housing Act of 1968.  Now, Republican Russell Pearce of Arizona, is directly threatening the 14th Amendment, which was, in large part, aimed at correcting the injustices caused by the system of American slavery and the infamous Dred Scott Decision of 1857, which declared that African-Americans were not citizens of the United States, and, therefore, did not have the protections of the U.S. Constitution.

Ironically, the 14th Amendment was intended to protect Americans — including the native born whose parents are not citizens — from exactly the sort of state encroachment upon civil rights that Mr. Pearce is proposing to legislate.
As I recall, federal laws trump state and local ones. And only a constitutional amendment made to the actual constitution can change this. Somebody slept through civics.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 27, 2010, 10:45:45 pm
 :lulz: :lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:

The laughter HURTS.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2010, 11:03:45 pm
We could solve this whole problem by giving Arizona to Mexico.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 28, 2010, 12:05:14 am
But i can't SPEAK spanish! :x
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 28, 2010, 12:39:06 am
But i can't SPEAK spanish! :x
TOO BAD! LEARN TO ASSIMILATE, GRINGO!!!!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 28, 2010, 01:16:35 am
And Utah's Governor has said he'd support a bill like Arizona's.  Sucks to be the brown half of my family I guess.   :kingmeh:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2010, 05:43:07 am
Seriously, I don't know why we wanted Arizona in the first place. It used to be part of Mexico, we should give it back. As if Mexico would take it.

It's kind of going in that direction, though, amirite? Arizona is basically vying for independence, and that can only go in one direction.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 28, 2010, 05:48:10 am
Can we give them Texas back at the same time?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2010, 06:25:26 am
Can we give them Texas back at the same time?

God, please!

Although, again, I doubt Mexico would take it back.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 28, 2010, 06:26:05 pm
Seriously, I don't know why we wanted Arizona in the first place. It used to be part of Mexico, we should give it back. As if Mexico would take it.

It's kind of going in that direction, though, amirite? Arizona is basically vying for independence, and that can only go in one direction.


I'm betting that in the next 5 years or so, I will have the unequalled opportunity to see a civil war up close.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 28, 2010, 06:27:49 pm
JD Hayworth must have studied American History in Texas.

http://crooksandliars.com/jason-sigger/hayworths-history-lesson

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While speaking last week to a local GOP organization in Phoenix, Hayworth was asked by an attendee about America's failure to formally declare war in our modern conflicts. Hayworth defended the modern-day authorizations for the use of military force. "But I would also point out, that if we want to be sticklers, the war that Dwight Eisenhower led in Europe against the Third Reich was never declared by the United States Congress," said Hayworth. "Recall, the Congress passed a war resolution against Japan. Germany declared war on us two days later. We never formally declared war on Hitler's Germany, and yet we fought the war."

Except for, maybe this...

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/declare2.htm

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Whereas the Government of Germany has formally declared war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:

Therefore be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Government of Germany which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Government of Germany; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States.

Approved, December 11, 1941, 3:05 p.m., E. S. T.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on May 28, 2010, 07:32:01 pm
:facepalm:


$5 no one calls him out on this.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on May 28, 2010, 09:09:06 pm
:facepalm:


$5 no one calls him out on this.

They say this stuff on purpose, as a distraction. Since people who would correct them have integrity and actually take the time to dig up the proper references, they all waste their time running after ridiculous statements rather than addressing issues.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Remington on May 29, 2010, 12:28:08 am
:facepalm:


$5 no one calls him out on this.

They say this stuff on purpose, as a distraction. Since people who would correct them have integrity and actually take the time to dig up the proper references, they all waste their time running after ridiculous statements rather than addressing issues.
It's like the political equivalent of deploying flares.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q5wa7ttQiZk/Swu2tC39G6I/AAAAAAAAC8g/hM280jJxdvI/s1600/4.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Vene on June 05, 2010, 05:13:19 pm
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A group of artists has been asked to lighten the faces of children depicted in a giant public mural at a Prescott school.

The project's leader says he was ordered to lighten the skin tone after complaints about the children's ethnicity. But the school's principal says the request was only to fix shading and had nothing to do with political pressure.

The "Go on Green" mural, which covers two walls outside Miller Valley Elementary School, was designed to advertise a campaign for environmentally friendly transportation. It features portraits of four children, with a Hispanic boy as the dominant figure.

R.E. Wall, director of Prescott's Downtown Mural Project, said he and other artists were subjected to slurs from motorists as they worked on the painting at one of the town's most prominent intersections.

"We consistently, for two months, had people shouting racial slander from their cars," Wall said. "We had children painting with us, and here come these yells of (epithet for Blacks) and (epithet for Hispanics)."

Wall said school Principal Jeff Lane pressed him to make the children's faces appear happier and brighter.

"It is being lightened because of the controversy," Wall said, adding that "they want it to look like the children are coming into light."

Lane said that he received only three complaints about the mural and that his request for a touch-up had nothing to do with political pressure. "We asked them to fix the shading on the children's faces," he said. "We were looking at it from an artistic view. Nothing at all to do with race."
[emphasis mine]
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/04/20100604arizona-mural-sparks-racial-debate.html (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/04/20100604arizona-mural-sparks-racial-debate.html)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Telarus on June 05, 2010, 08:02:49 pm
:facepalm:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2010, 06:54:05 pm
Seriously, I don't know why we wanted Arizona in the first place. It used to be part of Mexico, we should give it back. As if Mexico would take it.

It's kind of going in that direction, though, amirite? Arizona is basically vying for independence, and that can only go in one direction.


I'm betting that in the next 5 years or so, I will have the unequalled opportunity to see a civil war up close.

Yeah, it's going to get REALLY interesting, very soon.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2010, 06:57:00 pm
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A group of artists has been asked to lighten the faces of children depicted in a giant public mural at a Prescott school.

The project's leader says he was ordered to lighten the skin tone after complaints about the children's ethnicity. But the school's principal says the request was only to fix shading and had nothing to do with political pressure.

The "Go on Green" mural, which covers two walls outside Miller Valley Elementary School, was designed to advertise a campaign for environmentally friendly transportation. It features portraits of four children, with a Hispanic boy as the dominant figure.

R.E. Wall, director of Prescott's Downtown Mural Project, said he and other artists were subjected to slurs from motorists as they worked on the painting at one of the town's most prominent intersections.

"We consistently, for two months, had people shouting racial slander from their cars," Wall said. "We had children painting with us, and here come these yells of (epithet for Blacks) and (epithet for Hispanics)."

Wall said school Principal Jeff Lane pressed him to make the children's faces appear happier and brighter.

"It is being lightened because of the controversy," Wall said, adding that "they want it to look like the children are coming into light."

Lane said that he received only three complaints about the mural and that his request for a touch-up had nothing to do with political pressure. "We asked them to fix the shading on the children's faces," he said. "We were looking at it from an artistic view. Nothing at all to do with race."
[emphasis mine]
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/04/20100604arizona-mural-sparks-racial-debate.html (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/04/20100604arizona-mural-sparks-racial-debate.html)

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In a broadcast last month, according to the Daily Courier in Prescott, Blair mistakenly complained that the most prominent child in the painting is African-American, saying: "To depict the biggest picture on the building as a Black person, I would have to ask the question: Why?"

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/04/20100604arizona-mural-sparks-racial-debate.html#ixzz0q64JDkeL

These people are fucking insane.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 09, 2010, 10:20:14 pm
Seriously, I don't know why we wanted Arizona in the first place. It used to be part of Mexico, we should give it back. As if Mexico would take it.

It's kind of going in that direction, though, amirite? Arizona is basically vying for independence, and that can only go in one direction.


I'm betting that in the next 5 years or so, I will have the unequalled opportunity to see a civil war up close.

Yeah, it's going to get REALLY interesting, very soon.
That's what they said about "Lost".
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 09, 2010, 11:00:26 pm
Seriously, I don't know why we wanted Arizona in the first place. It used to be part of Mexico, we should give it back. As if Mexico would take it.

It's kind of going in that direction, though, amirite? Arizona is basically vying for independence, and that can only go in one direction.


I'm betting that in the next 5 years or so, I will have the unequalled opportunity to see a civil war up close.

Yeah, it's going to get REALLY interesting, very soon.
That's what they said about "Lost".

You haven't been paying attention to the things Dok and I have been saying about Tucson, have you?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 09, 2010, 11:08:44 pm
Kind of, I have, I just associate hearing stuff like "It's going to get REALLY interesting, very soon"
with nothing ever really changing.

I suppose It's giving in to a conditioned response though, and I really should watch that stuff.  (Lost really was crap though!)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 10, 2010, 02:26:35 am
Kind of, I have, I just associate hearing stuff like "It's going to get REALLY interesting, very soon"
with nothing ever really changing.

I suppose It's giving in to a conditioned response though, and I really should watch that stuff.  (Lost really was crap though!)

Tucson is ALREADY very interesting. It's about to royally fucking, is what is.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on June 10, 2010, 06:45:14 am
You guys should rally the cabals and begin drilling.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 10, 2010, 07:20:04 am
Who says we aren't already?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 10, 2010, 07:37:58 am
Jo-Jo did. He's a bit of a loner, and a stoner. But even he knows it can't last.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on June 11, 2010, 08:21:10 am
Who says we aren't already?

I was hoping you'd say that. :D
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 14, 2010, 04:48:35 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100612/us_time/08599199606400

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Buoyed by recent public opinion polls suggesting they're on the right track with illegal immigration, Arizona Republicans will likely introduce legislation this fall that would deny birth certificates to children born in Arizona - and thus American citizens according to the U.S. Constitution - to parents who are not legal U.S. citizens. The law largely is the brainchild of state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican whose suburban district, Mesa, is considered the conservative bastion of the Phoenix political scene.

:facepalm: Why do they hate the Constitution so much?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on June 14, 2010, 04:52:20 pm
They love the constitution, its just they never read it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on June 14, 2010, 10:02:10 pm
Oh my god.  :lulz: and  :argh!: I hope someone draws them up short in public, preferably with cameras rolling.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on June 14, 2010, 11:06:02 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100612/us_time/08599199606400

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Buoyed by recent public opinion polls suggesting they're on the right track with illegal immigration, Arizona Republicans will likely introduce legislation this fall that would deny birth certificates to children born in Arizona - and thus American citizens according to the U.S. Constitution - to parents who are not legal U.S. citizens. The law largely is the brainchild of state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican whose suburban district, Mesa, is considered the conservative bastion of the Phoenix political scene.

:facepalm: Why do they hate the Constitution so much?

Enough people outside of Arizona either know the constitution and/or disagree with it that it will never happen. It is, in the most literal sense, unconstitutional, and there is no weaseling around the words because the constitution states it in very clear terms.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

You can argue that, say, Mexicans aren't people, birth is a quality possessed only by white christians, citizens doesn't really mean citizens, and Arizona isn't a state (which is an interesting thought), but all of those won't hold outside of idiotville.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 15, 2010, 06:02:39 am
That's the most annoying part of this. The people pushing this HAVE to know that this is blatantly unconstitutional and would never get to the point that it will ever be enforced. They are cynically pushing these laws to garner votes from ignorant racists. The sad part is that it fucking works.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on June 15, 2010, 03:01:01 pm
hell yeah they know it's unconstitutional

from the article---

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[the 14th amendment] was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

But that was 1868. Today, Pearce says the 14th Amendment has been "hijacked" by illegal immigrants. "They use it as a wedge," Pearce says. "This is an orchestrated effort by them to come here and have children to gain access to the great welfare state we've created." Pearce says he is aware of the constitutional issues involved with the bill and vows to introduce it nevertheless. "We will write it right." He and other Republicans in the red state Arizona point to popular sympathy: 58% of Americans polled by Rasmussen think illegal immigrants whose children are born here should not receive citizenship; support for that stance is 76% among Republicans.

"We will write it right."

Thanks Pearce.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 15, 2010, 04:10:51 pm
hell yeah they know it's unconstitutional

from the article---

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[the 14th amendment] was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

But that was 1868. Today, Pearce says the 14th Amendment has been "hijacked" by illegal immigrants. "They use it as a wedge," Pearce says. "This is an orchestrated effort by them to come here and have children to gain access to the great welfare state we've created." Pearce says he is aware of the constitutional issues involved with the bill and vows to introduce it nevertheless. "We will write it right." He and other Republicans in the red state Arizona point to popular sympathy: 58% of Americans polled by Rasmussen think illegal immigrants whose children are born here should not receive citizenship; support for that stance is 76% among Republicans.

"We will write it right."

Thanks Pearce.



I think it should be applied retroactively.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on June 15, 2010, 04:12:39 pm
Aren't these the same people who argue that the constitution is not a "living document", and should strictly adhere to the letter of the law, and not the spirit?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 15, 2010, 05:12:20 pm
Aren't these the same people who argue that the constitution is not a "living document", and should strictly adhere to the letter of the law, and not the spirit?
That only counts for the second amendment and fuck the rest of it.

:weary:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 08:00:11 pm
hell yeah they know it's unconstitutional

from the article---

Quote
[the 14th amendment] was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

But that was 1868. Today, Pearce says the 14th Amendment has been "hijacked" by illegal immigrants. "They use it as a wedge," Pearce says. "This is an orchestrated effort by them to come here and have children to gain access to the great welfare state we've created." Pearce says he is aware of the constitutional issues involved with the bill and vows to introduce it nevertheless. "We will write it right." He and other Republicans in the red state Arizona point to popular sympathy: 58% of Americans polled by Rasmussen think illegal immigrants whose children are born here should not receive citizenship; support for that stance is 76% among Republicans.

"We will write it right."

Thanks Pearce.



Pearce is to Arizona what Baby Doc Duvalier was to Haiti, only not as funny.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 15, 2010, 10:03:05 pm
Have you still got that mental Sherriff out there, who chain gangs County Jail inmates to death? He was on the TV over here the other night.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 15, 2010, 10:07:25 pm
Have you still got that mental Sherriff out there, who chain gangs County Jail inmates to death? He was on the TV over here the other night.

If you're talking about Sheriff Joe Arpaio, yes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 15, 2010, 10:41:19 pm
Have you still got that mental Sherriff out there, who chain gangs County Jail inmates to death? He was on the TV over here the other night.

Yes.  He's a state treasure.  A living, breathing example of what happens when you let people in Tempe vote.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 12:09:58 am
He's a fuckin' nutter is what he is! And don't all the good folks out there just love him, and his big ol' iron on his hip?
We used to have one like him, John Anderton, Chief Constable of somewhere or other, and he called himself "Gods Cop". But he got sacked for eating foetus or fisting Maggie Thatcher or something, and got ritually disembowelled by Prince Philip  between chukkas at a Polo Match I think. (Or was that Princess Margaret?)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 02:29:12 am
He's a fuckin' nutter is what he is! And don't all the good folks out there just love him, and his big ol' iron on his hip?


Ahem.

Dok,
Carries iron on his hip, and isn't a racist fuckbag fascist.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 02:35:10 am
 The gun isn't the defining factor here, the  bloke plainly isn't right in the head, and shouldn't even be trusted with a supersoaker!  
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 02:57:21 am
The gun isn't the defining factor here, the  bloke plainly isn't right in the head, and shouldn't even be trusted with a supersoaker!  

Because I am and have always been the very model of stability.   :lulz:

Sheriff Joe doesn't kill people with a gun.  He kills people with deputies.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 03:15:06 am
Yeah, but he couldn't get hard for Mrs Sherriff Joe, without his gun in his hand. (unholy union of the mad and the madder)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on June 16, 2010, 03:20:04 am
What I cant work out is why they were on our TV! Strutting around like a mutant little gamecock, "shall I go for the Governers job"? smirking all over his dumpling face, eyes all mad like a chickens. Only caught the last five minutes, but I don't think ill ever forget that face.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 03:41:36 am
What I cant work out is why they were on our TV! Strutting around like a mutant little gamecock, "shall I go for the Governers job"? smirking all over his dumpling face, eyes all mad like a chickens. Only caught the last five minutes, but I don't think ill ever forget that face.


Oh, yeah.

(http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/immigration_hmed10phmedium.jpg)

The attack of Thundertoad.  Every backwoods bumblefuck thug sheriff cliche, all rolled into one.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2010, 05:27:21 am
Arizona is just one of many large scale lessons of humanity going on today. Sit down, watch and learn kiddies. And do try to take notes so you can NOT replicate this later.  8)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 16, 2010, 05:47:53 am
The fact that everybody is calling what Arizona is doing "ignorant" and "racist," and labeling the establishment there as a callous inhuman monstrosity, and belittling the people of Arizona as hicks and rednecks, is exactly why no progress is being made. This is classic divide and conquer, people. We should be reasoning with these people and convincing them (and ourselves) of our shared enemy!
   \
(http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnportrait.png) (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html)

...of course, what Arizona is doing really is ignorant and racist. I'm just saying...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 05:05:30 pm
Arizona is just one of many large scale lessons of humanity going on today. Sit down, watch and learn kiddies. And do try to take notes so you can NOT replicate this later.  8)

HOLD MAH BEER, KAI!  WATCH THIS!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 05:06:30 pm
The fact that everybody is calling what Arizona is doing "ignorant" and "racist," and labeling the establishment there as a callous inhuman monstrosity, and belittling the people of Arizona as hicks and rednecks, is exactly why no progress is being made. This is classic divide and conquer, people. We should be reasoning with these people and convincing them (and ourselves) of our shared enemy!
   \
(http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnportrait.png) (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html)

...of course, what Arizona is doing really is ignorant and racist. I'm just saying...

No.  If any of you fuckers had an ounce of sense, you'd toss AZ out of the union.

Trust me on this one.  I am a Doktor.  I know the face of degeneracy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2010, 05:40:51 pm
Arizona is just one of many large scale lessons of humanity going on today. Sit down, watch and learn kiddies. And do try to take notes so you can NOT replicate this later.  8)

HOLD MAH BEER, KAI!  WATCH THIS!

The only way people learn is by shoving the lessons of history down their throats over and over until they get painful sores.

Part of that process is documenting.

That is what we should be doing right now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 16, 2010, 05:56:35 pm
Arizona is just one of many large scale lessons of humanity going on today. Sit down, watch and learn kiddies. And do try to take notes so you can NOT replicate this later.  8)

HOLD MAH BEER, KAI!  WATCH THIS!

The only way people learn is by shoving the lessons of history down their throats over and over until they get painful sores.

Part of that process is documenting.

That is what we should be doing right now.

Shit was documented 225 years ago.  Nobody reads it. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on June 16, 2010, 06:06:45 pm
Incrementalism interrupted by bouts of backpedaling. 

That's probably being generous. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on June 16, 2010, 06:37:09 pm
Arizona is just one of many large scale lessons of humanity going on today. Sit down, watch and learn kiddies. And do try to take notes so you can NOT replicate this later.  8)

HOLD MAH BEER, KAI!  WATCH THIS!

The only way people learn is by shoving the lessons of history down their throats over and over until they get painful sores.

Part of that process is documenting.

That is what we should be doing right now.

Shit was documented 225 years ago.  Nobody reads it. 

Too ancient. If it didn't happen last Thursday, the young'uns don't care.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 15, 2010, 03:23:14 pm
the main part of the bill is this: YOU NEED TO BE IN THE ACT OF AN INFRACTION TO HAVE YOUR ID REQUESTED.

the bulk of these are, indeed, when you are pulled over

but guess what? YOUR ID IS PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. and, even far far before the bill was even a glint in AZ's eye it was ILLEGAL to drive without your id

At least one person has already been detained despite having a drivers license with him.  So no, a drivers license is not considered valid by the cops. 

The man in question was probably not suspected of anything either (it happened when he stopped at a truck weigh station), but I'll concede that it is possible there was some irregularity not mentioned by the news.

If you actually read the law (I have by the way) you'll find that:

A) All immigrants must carry a green card at all times (this was already federal law, but they have upped the penalty in Arizona from 100 dollars to 500 dollars, a jail sentence, and deportation).  A driver's license is not proof of legal residence.  Even if it was proof of legal residence, it does not fulfill the requirement of the green card, as per the text of the bill.

B) A cop has full authority to decide if a person is an immigrant.  So even if he has no evidence a person is an immigrant (legal or otherwise), they can be detained for not having a green card on them.

C) Deportation is now mandatory for parking tickets and jaywalking (any fine levied by the government, at all, requires deportation).

Please read the fucking bill before responding.

Hey Req - I used these points in a debate on another forum, and i'm being asked for a citation.

I'm looking at the text of the law, and it looks like a driver's license works. Do you have a better citation?

text of law: http://www.scribd.com/doc/31005811/SB-1070-Signed

                 see page 2, line 37

gimme a hand here
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 15, 2010, 07:50:51 pm
The cops who arrested him weren't following the law in the first place, it was before the law took effect.

http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

That also doesn't match the version of the bill I have, looks like its the house enrolled version, from before the amendments were pushed on it.

www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on July 16, 2010, 01:56:57 am
http://sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49936537-76/list-information-utah-herbert.html.csp

Quote
State investigators have pinpointed the Department of Workforce Services as the source of data used to compile a list of 1,300 people who are purportedly in the country illegally.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 16, 2010, 02:49:33 am
Arizona is the meth lab of democracy, you guise!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-april-26-2010/law---border
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Remington on July 16, 2010, 07:09:12 am
Only in Arizona:
http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ (http://www.heartattackgrill.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill)

This is an actual place, and they seem to be trying to kill their patrons. The "Quadruple Bypass Burger" features up to 2 pounds of meat (8,000 calories* between two greasy buns), and the "Flatliner Fries" are cooked in pure lard*. People over 350lb eat free*.





*Yes, really







Edit: Related:
http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html (http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on July 16, 2010, 01:45:42 pm
Fries cooked in lard are delicious.  Just saying.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 16, 2010, 02:00:51 pm
Only in Arizona:
http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ (http://www.heartattackgrill.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill)

This is an actual place, and they seem to be trying to kill their patrons. The "Quadruple Bypass Burger" features up to 2 pounds of meat (8,000 calories* between two greasy buns), and the "Flatliner Fries" are cooked in pure lard*. People over 350lb eat free*.





*Yes, really







Edit: Related:
http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html (http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html)

This place was featured on either Food Network or the Travel Channel. What's funny is the guy who owns the joint is a dietician and kknows this stuff is bad for you.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on July 16, 2010, 03:28:24 pm
The cops who arrested him weren't following the law in the first place, it was before the law took effect.

http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Man-says-he-was-racially-targeted-forced-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html

That also doesn't match the version of the bill I have, looks like its the house enrolled version, from before the amendments were pushed on it.

www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

cool - now I got the bit about parking tickets requiring deportation

--but what about the part where a driver's license doesn't qualify as proof of citizenship? There are no mentions of drivers licenses, birth certificates, or green cards in this doc.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 16, 2010, 03:45:54 pm
Green cards are mentioned, sortof, they require compliance with a federal law that requires green cards, that’s not actually new, though the penalty is much higher.  It's been a while since I read it, but from what I wrote earlier (when it was fresh in my mind), its up to the cop to decide if a person is an immigrant or not, the 'driver's license doesn't count' thing comes from the way the cops in Arizona already act (see the article).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on July 20, 2010, 10:25:05 am
Only in Arizona:
http://www.heartattackgrill.com/ (http://www.heartattackgrill.com/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Attack_Grill)

This is an actual place, and they seem to be trying to kill their patrons. The "Quadruple Bypass Burger" features up to 2 pounds of meat (8,000 calories* between two greasy buns), and the "Flatliner Fries" are cooked in pure lard*. People over 350lb eat free*.





*Yes, really







Edit: Related:
http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html (http://www.cracked.com/video_18133_8-great-foods-explaining-why-terrorists-hate-us.html)

This place was featured on either Food Network or the Travel Channel. What's funny is the guy who owns the joint is a dietician and kknows this stuff is bad for you.

thats evil genius at work! Kill em off faster!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 20, 2010, 11:35:50 am

I read that they are sending 500ish national guards to Tucson, to watch the Arizona borders  :lulz: supposedly they are planning on sending 700 more.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/primera/35260.html (http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/primera/35260.html)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 06:51:52 pm
Gov. Brewer owned, for now...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38436995/ns/us_news-immigration_a_nation_divided/

Quote
PHOENIX — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's immigration law from taking effect, delivering a last-minute victory to opponents of the crackdown.

The overall law will still take effect Thursday, but without the provisions that angered opponents — including sections that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws.

The judge also put on hold parts of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places.

U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled that the controversial sections should be put on hold until the courts resolve the issues.

The ruling came just as police were making last-minute preparations to begin enforcement of the law at 12:01 a.m. Thursday and protesters were planning a large demonstrations to speak out against the measure. At least one group planned to block access to federal offices, daring officers to ask them their immigration status.

The volume of the protests will be likely be turned down a few notches because of the ruling by Bolton, a Clinton appointee who suddenly became a crucial figure in the immigration debate when she was assigned the seven lawsuits filed against the Arizona law.

Lawyers for the state contend the law was a constitutionally sound attempt by Arizona — the busiest illegal gateway into the country — to assist federal immigration agents and lessen border woes such as the heavy costs for educating, jailing and providing health care for illegal immigrants.

Sheriff Joe is going to be some pissed. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 28, 2010, 06:54:49 pm
:169:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pæs on July 28, 2010, 07:01:47 pm
:169:
I think a "169% DELAYED" emote would do better here.
Opponents of racism will eventually learn that you just can't fight progress.
Or something.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 28, 2010, 07:16:29 pm
:169:
I think a "169% DELAYED" emote would do better here.
Opponents of racism will eventually learn that you just can't fight progress.
Or something.

It's still better than that shit starting up right away.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pæs on July 28, 2010, 07:17:49 pm
It's definitely less fail this way, yeah.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 07:19:41 pm
Our engineer is throwing an outright tantrum over this.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 28, 2010, 07:26:51 pm
Our engineer is throwing an outright tantrum over this.   :lulz:

For srs?  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 07:33:02 pm
It's nice to see judges with cajones these days.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 28, 2010, 07:38:24 pm
Our engineer is throwing an outright tantrum over this.   :lulz:

For real?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 07:43:02 pm
With all the Fail Boltons running around, Michael, Josh, John, etc., it's good to see someone can do the name some justice. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 07:46:35 pm
Mike is STILL ranting!   :lulz:

"MIGHT AS WELL JUST LET THEM ALL IN AND GIVE THEM OUR DOCTORS AND OUR CARS!"

(To get the full effect, imagine a nerdy, nasal, squeaky voice at full volume.)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Aucoq on July 28, 2010, 07:47:44 pm
Mike is STILL ranting!   :lulz:

"MIGHT AS WELL JUST LET THEM ALL IN AND GIVE THEM OUR DOCTORS AND OUR CARS!"

(To get the full effect, imagine a nerdy, nasal, squeaky voice at full volume.)

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 28, 2010, 07:48:58 pm
Mike is STILL ranting!   :lulz:

"MIGHT AS WELL JUST LET THEM ALL IN AND GIVE THEM OUR DOCTORS AND OUR CARS!"

(To get the full effect, imagine a nerdy, nasal, squeaky voice at full volume.)

POINT BEHIND HIM AND YELL "MEXICAN!!!"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on July 28, 2010, 08:22:51 pm
Our engineer is throwing an outright tantrum over this.   :lulz:
Fire him. Hire a competent Mexican to replace him.  :D
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 28, 2010, 09:05:51 pm
Gov. Brewer owned, for now...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38436995/ns/us_news-immigration_a_nation_divided/

Quote
PHOENIX — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's immigration law from taking effect, delivering a last-minute victory to opponents of the crackdown.

The overall law will still take effect Thursday, but without the provisions that angered opponents — including sections that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws.

The judge also put on hold parts of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places.

U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled that the controversial sections should be put on hold until the courts resolve the issues.

The ruling came just as police were making last-minute preparations to begin enforcement of the law at 12:01 a.m. Thursday and protesters were planning a large demonstrations to speak out against the measure. At least one group planned to block access to federal offices, daring officers to ask them their immigration status.

The volume of the protests will be likely be turned down a few notches because of the ruling by Bolton, a Clinton appointee who suddenly became a crucial figure in the immigration debate when she was assigned the seven lawsuits filed against the Arizona law.

Lawyers for the state contend the law was a constitutionally sound attempt by Arizona — the busiest illegal gateway into the country — to assist federal immigration agents and lessen border woes such as the heavy costs for educating, jailing and providing health care for illegal immigrants.

Sheriff Joe is going to be some pissed. 

NPR reports he's vowed to enforce the law regardless.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jasper on July 28, 2010, 09:06:56 pm
Can't he get fired just for saying that?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 09:07:07 pm
Gov. Brewer owned, for now...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38436995/ns/us_news-immigration_a_nation_divided/

Quote
PHOENIX — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's immigration law from taking effect, delivering a last-minute victory to opponents of the crackdown.

The overall law will still take effect Thursday, but without the provisions that angered opponents — including sections that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws.

The judge also put on hold parts of the law that required immigrants to carry their papers at all times, and made it illegal for undocumented workers to solicit employment in public places.

U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled that the controversial sections should be put on hold until the courts resolve the issues.

The ruling came just as police were making last-minute preparations to begin enforcement of the law at 12:01 a.m. Thursday and protesters were planning a large demonstrations to speak out against the measure. At least one group planned to block access to federal offices, daring officers to ask them their immigration status.

The volume of the protests will be likely be turned down a few notches because of the ruling by Bolton, a Clinton appointee who suddenly became a crucial figure in the immigration debate when she was assigned the seven lawsuits filed against the Arizona law.

Lawyers for the state contend the law was a constitutionally sound attempt by Arizona — the busiest illegal gateway into the country — to assist federal immigration agents and lessen border woes such as the heavy costs for educating, jailing and providing health care for illegal immigrants.

Sheriff Joe is going to be some pissed. 

NPR reports he's vowed to enforce the law regardless.

OH, FUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 09:09:22 pm
Someone needs to find that asshole drunk, driving, and fucked up so he can be treated like the thousands he's fucked over.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 28, 2010, 09:10:38 pm
Dream on, he won't be touched. Remember who and where he is.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 09:12:21 pm
OUT OF CONTROL SHERIFF!  WOOOOOOOOO!

I see Federal Marshalls in the near future.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 28, 2010, 09:13:17 pm
OUT OF CONTROL SHERIFF!  WOOOOOOOOO!

I see Federal Marshalls in the near future.

Ok, now that would be fun to watch.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 09:23:03 pm
Can't he get fired just for saying that?

Not if he was elected.  Do Sheriffs get elected in Arizona? 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 09:27:06 pm
Can't he get fired just for saying that?

Not if he was elected.  Do Sheriffs get elected in Arizona? 

Yes.  And he'd refuse to step down, even if Brewer COULD and WOULD fire him (she wouldn't).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 09:30:23 pm
Yeah, no way she'd fire him.  She's clearly hitched her train to this thing.  I can't wait to watch Hannity lose his shit over this tonite.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 09:34:01 pm
Rog, weren't you talking about some sort of civil war type atmosphere in AZ?  This seems like it could tip off some sort of, uh, reaction in that direction.  I'm not saying full-scale, but I can see some military presence being called in, etc.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 09:34:48 pm
Rog, weren't you talking about some sort of civil war type atmosphere in AZ?  This seems like it could tip off some sort of, uh, reaction in that direction.  I'm not saying full-scale, but I can see some military presence being called in, etc.

Good God, I hope so.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 28, 2010, 09:37:32 pm
5 bucks says if the US military makes a show of force in AZ the Utah militia nutjobs head south too.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 28, 2010, 09:39:25 pm
The sooner this thing goes critical, the better.

I suggest starting rumours that illegals are working at army bases and have been implicated in theft of military equipement, and see if the teabaggers are stupid enough to take the bait and protest a military base with their usual finesse and style (ie incoherent ranting, often while holding weapons).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 09:46:02 pm
WHERE'S THAT POPCORN EMOTE?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 09:59:55 pm
5 bucks says if the US military makes a show of force in AZ the Utah militia nutjobs head south too.

Naw, too far.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 28, 2010, 11:01:36 pm
The sooner this thing goes critical, the better.

I suggest starting rumours that illegals are working at army bases and have been implicated in theft of military equipement, and see if the teabaggers are stupid enough to take the bait and protest a military base with their usual finesse and style (ie incoherent ranting, often while holding weapons).

I stand in awe of your deviousness.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 29, 2010, 01:27:08 am

Im not so sure but...

Given that so much economic gain comes from paying illegal workers low fares as to compared what a citizen would be paid for...

I think that its not a real win until all those workers are given rights.

What i mean is that this overall turn of events to deport illegal workers was a move from the screeching conservatives, and that the figures in power were not inclined to support it, was due to exploitative informal economy gains other than anything else.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on July 29, 2010, 04:25:11 am
And you hit upon the real solution to illegal immigration.

Enforce the labor laws and there won't be any reason for businesses to hire them.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 05:21:33 am
...and then HELLO INFLATION! HOW ARE YA, HOW'S THE FAM?

Businesses will well, go out of business, left and right, all the way down the pike.  Johnnyx has made the biggest point of all, and really, everyone knows it, but no one LIKES it.  Because it's a "LIBRUL" idea.  A "PROGRESSIVE" notion.

Neverfuckingmind that practically EVERY Conservative president of the US the last 30 years has been FOR it.  Guest worker programs, "amnesty," you name it, the last few Republican presidents from Reagan to Bush II, they wanted it.  I know guys like Tancredo are more of the "kick the bastids back out of the country" type, but the Senator Graham-types have been more conciliatory and realize they will lose GENERATIONS of Latino voters if this shit continues.

Teabaggers, they don't wanna hear that.  And they don't give a fuck.

Nerp.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 29, 2010, 07:00:06 am
Okay, just playing Devil's Advocate a bit here...

The AZ law is terrible. But the fact that it was passed is, I think, less a testament to backwoods racism in AZ than it is to the growing frustration with the Federal Government's refusal to enforce existing law in any meaningful way. Personally, I'm not a racist, but I do think the US needs to actually control its borders. It's easier to sneak into the US and set up shop than any other developed nation in the world. The Federal Government has done practically nothing for 30 years about illegal immigration. A few round-ups, a few border patrol agents here and there, a fence (lol).

I support expanded, legal immigration. Obviously there are millions of people who would rather be here than their own countries, and I'm fine with that. But we should be doing it openly, respectfully, and above-board. Having such a restricted legal immigration channel and then doing nearly nothing to combat illegal immigration compounds all kinds of problems. And there are problems caused by illegal immigration. People come here and multiply but can't join society because of their "illegal" status. So generations of people grow up here but never identify themselves as Americans, which leads to self-segregation, economic stress, cultural clashes, crime, a sub-class of bottom-rung workers with practically no chance for advancement, etc.

The right-wing activists would have a little less to complain about and a lot less to say that other people are willing to hear, if the Federal Government would enact sensible immigration policy and then enforce it. The AZ law wouldn't have been passed if DC had been doing its job in the first place.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 10:50:13 am
Sometimes posts on this board really surprise me.

There is an estimated 12 million illegal Mexican Nationals in this country. Now, I don't know how anyone could actually estimate this accurately, so let's say conservatively there are 6 million.

Screechers want them all gone tomorrow. You bet! Let's rip 6 million workers out of the fabric of the American workforce and just see what happens.

I hope you don't want any more vegetables or nice smooth roads or any untold number of services these people provide.

Instead of standing at the border barking we should just open the border and be done with it. The simple fact is the border is already for all intents and purpose wide open. Drugs are pouring into this country from Mexico in record numbers. Mexican Nationals can cross the border at will.

And then let's discuss the most obvious thing of all. This country is in a deep economic crisis. Illegals are a cheap workforce. But please continue to ignore the facts and continue to yell about them taking your jobs, jobs you wouldn't do in the first place.

A Jenne has already mentioned a guest worker program would solve just about everything the schreechers are screeching about.

But, continue watching all the side shows while the main stage is eerily quiet and empty.


*Steps down from soapbox*
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 11:04:11 am
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- Jairo Tellez's seafood distribution business is a family affair. In the industrial warehouse that houses J and V Mariscos on the west side of Phoenix, his wife, Vicki, and four of his seven children load trucks, take phone calls, enter data and help care for his infant grandson, who has a playpen in Tellez's office.

But with portions of Arizona's controversial immigration enforcement law set to take effect Thursday, the business is in limbo.

"If people are not eating, we're not selling," said Wendy Cisneros, a family friend who works in the back office. "We've lost 60 percent of sales, and right now the future's uncertain. We don't know if we're going to stay in the state; we don't know if we're going to close the business. Everything's up in the air."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/28/arizona.immigration.economy/index.html?hpt=T1
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 11:55:28 am
Maricopa county Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a message to the people who intend to protest the controversial Arizona immigration law tomorrow: “I’m ready for it.”

“I hear a rumor they want to block my jails. So if they want to block the jails they can have a little trip in the jails,” Arpaio told me on “GMA.” “So we are not going to put up with any civil disobedience just because they want to show, give a message through the media about this situation that is occurring here in Arizona.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/az-sheriff-to-protesters-if-you-block-the-jail-youll-end-up-in-the-jail.html

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 02:06:14 pm
Okay, just playing Devil's Advocate a bit here...

The AZ law is terrible. But the fact that it was passed is, I think, less a testament to backwoods racism in AZ than it is to the growing frustration with the Federal Government's refusal to enforce existing law in any meaningful way. Personally, I'm not a racist, but I do think the US needs to actually control its borders. It's easier to sneak into the US and set up shop than any other developed nation in the world. The Federal Government has done practically nothing for 30 years about illegal immigration. A few round-ups, a few border patrol agents here and there, a fence (lol).

I support expanded, legal immigration. Obviously there are millions of people who would rather be here than their own countries, and I'm fine with that. But we should be doing it openly, respectfully, and above-board. Having such a restricted legal immigration channel and then doing nearly nothing to combat illegal immigration compounds all kinds of problems. And there are problems caused by illegal immigration. People come here and multiply but can't join society because of their "illegal" status. So generations of people grow up here but never identify themselves as Americans, which leads to self-segregation, economic stress, cultural clashes, crime, a sub-class of bottom-rung workers with practically no chance for advancement, etc.

The right-wing activists would have a little less to complain about and a lot less to say that other people are willing to hear, if the Federal Government would enact sensible immigration policy and then enforce it. The AZ law wouldn't have been passed if DC had been doing its job in the first place.

Vex, there are always better ways to deal with immigrants than to take away rights of citizens at the same time.  It's not just the racism, dude.  It's the same idiotic principle that's been at play since 9/11.  That sacrificing our liberties is worth the payoff of so-called security. 

It's bullshit.  Total and PROVEN TO BE bullshit.  Anyone who works in the facts and figures will tell you:  immigration does NOT cause increase in crime.  Paying for illegal immigrants to go to school and have health care acutally PAYS OFF in the long run with a smarter, harder working, healthier workforce.

Anyone duped into thinking a law like this is "necessary" to "force the federal government's hand" into doing anything "worthy," they are buying oceanfront property in Nevada.  All this means is they will tighten their grip on civil rights like Patriot Acts. 

But, you know, overreaction to social and legal injustices is just so passee...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 02:11:26 pm
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- Jairo Tellez's seafood distribution business is a family affair. In the industrial warehouse that houses J and V Mariscos on the west side of Phoenix, his wife, Vicki, and four of his seven children load trucks, take phone calls, enter data and help care for his infant grandson, who has a playpen in Tellez's office.

But with portions of Arizona's controversial immigration enforcement law set to take effect Thursday, the business is in limbo.

"If people are not eating, we're not selling," said Wendy Cisneros, a family friend who works in the back office. "We've lost 60 percent of sales, and right now the future's uncertain. We don't know if we're going to stay in the state; we don't know if we're going to close the business. Everything's up in the air."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/28/arizona.immigration.economy/index.html?hpt=T1

This is the economic fallout Rog originally talked about.  Businesses in AZ, businesses that folks like Sheriff Joe and his ilk don't realize are a fundamental part of the microeconomy of that state, will be folding and coming to, say, CALIFUCKINGFORNIA, instead.

And you won't find our state trying a Prop 87 again any time soon.  Although, I guess I should be careful what I say because if Meg fucking Whitman makes it to the governator's seat, we may be in for another, uh, "interesting" ride.  I can only hope she falls on her fat fucking face in the debates this fall.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 02:14:57 pm
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- Jairo Tellez's seafood distribution business is a family affair. In the industrial warehouse that houses J and V Mariscos on the west side of Phoenix, his wife, Vicki, and four of his seven children load trucks, take phone calls, enter data and help care for his infant grandson, who has a playpen in Tellez's office.

But with portions of Arizona's controversial immigration enforcement law set to take effect Thursday, the business is in limbo.

"If people are not eating, we're not selling," said Wendy Cisneros, a family friend who works in the back office. "We've lost 60 percent of sales, and right now the future's uncertain. We don't know if we're going to stay in the state; we don't know if we're going to close the business. Everything's up in the air."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/28/arizona.immigration.economy/index.html?hpt=T1

This is the economic fallout Rog originally talked about.  Businesses in AZ, businesses that folks like Sheriff Joe and his ilk don't realize are a fundamental part of the microeconomy of that state, will be folding and coming to, say, CALIFUCKINGFORNIA, instead.

And you won't find our state trying a Prop 87 again any time soon.  Although, I guess I should be careful what I say because if Meg fucking Whitman makes it to the governator's seat, we may be in for another, uh, "interesting" ride.  I can only hope she falls on her fat fucking face in the debates this fall.

It will be interesting to see what the judge decides with finality.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 29, 2010, 02:38:30 pm
Okay, just playing Devil's Advocate a bit here...

The AZ law is terrible. But the fact that it was passed is, I think, less a testament to backwoods racism in AZ than it is to the growing frustration with the Federal Government's refusal to enforce existing law in any meaningful way. Personally, I'm not a racist, but I do think the US needs to actually control its borders. It's easier to sneak into the US and set up shop than any other developed nation in the world. The Federal Government has done practically nothing for 30 years about illegal immigration. A few round-ups, a few border patrol agents here and there, a fence (lol).

I support expanded, legal immigration. Obviously there are millions of people who would rather be here than their own countries, and I'm fine with that. But we should be doing it openly, respectfully, and above-board. Having such a restricted legal immigration channel and then doing nearly nothing to combat illegal immigration compounds all kinds of problems. And there are problems caused by illegal immigration. People come here and multiply but can't join society because of their "illegal" status. So generations of people grow up here but never identify themselves as Americans, which leads to self-segregation, economic stress, cultural clashes, crime, a sub-class of bottom-rung workers with practically no chance for advancement, etc.

The right-wing activists would have a little less to complain about and a lot less to say that other people are willing to hear, if the Federal Government would enact sensible immigration policy and then enforce it. The AZ law wouldn't have been passed if DC had been doing its job in the first place.

Vex, there are always better ways to deal with immigrants than to take away rights of citizens at the same time.  It's not just the racism, dude.  It's the same idiotic principle that's been at play since 9/11.  That sacrificing our liberties is worth the payoff of so-called security. 

It's bullshit.  Total and PROVEN TO BE bullshit.  Anyone who works in the facts and figures will tell you:  immigration does NOT cause increase in crime.  Paying for illegal immigrants to go to school and have health care acutally PAYS OFF in the long run with a smarter, harder working, healthier workforce.

Anyone duped into thinking a law like this is "necessary" to "force the federal government's hand" into doing anything "worthy," they are buying oceanfront property in Nevada.  All this means is they will tighten their grip on civil rights like Patriot Acts. 

But, you know, overreaction to social and legal injustices is just so passee...

I'm not taking the Minuteman position here. I'm just saying we have immigration laws, and we should enforce them. If the laws aren't working, then we need to revise them, and enforce the new ones. We shouldn't just leave the system broke and ignore the consequences.

And by saying illegal immigration causes crime, I'm not saying that everyone coming across the border is a criminal, but that the defacto segregation between citizens and non-citizens results in higher social abrasion. It's true that most of them just want to work and earn an income they can't in Mexico. But that's also a problem. If they don't come here to join America, only to work, then they are not interested in being Americans. They have no intention of integrating, and even if they did, our broken immigration rules wouldn't let them integrate.

The US is not Mexico. If Mexico has failed these people so badly that they must pack up and move to another country, then that should be reflected in their actions. If they want to live here, then they should identify themselves as Americans first and Mexicans second, which they don't (partly because they don't want to and partly because some elements of our society won't let them). America is a nation of immigrants. One of our biggest strengths is our ability to accept anyone. But we can't be expected to accept people who don't really want to be here, but are forced by political or economic reasons to be here, and who send everything they earn out of the country and expect to eventually move back out of the country themselves. That isn't immigration.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 29, 2010, 02:43:27 pm

Okay, just playing Devil's Advocate a bit here...

The AZ law is terrible. But the fact that it was passed is, I think, less a testament to backwoods racism in AZ than it is to the growing frustration with the Federal Government's refusal to enforce existing law in any meaningful way. Personally, I'm not a racist, but I do think the US needs to actually control its borders. It's easier to sneak into the US and set up shop than any other developed nation in the world. The Federal Government has done practically nothing for 30 years about illegal immigration. A few round-ups, a few border patrol agents here and there, a fence (lol).

I support expanded, legal immigration. Obviously there are millions of people who would rather be here than their own countries, and I'm fine with that. But we should be doing it openly, respectfully, and above-board. Having such a restricted legal immigration channel and then doing nearly nothing to combat illegal immigration compounds all kinds of problems. And there are problems caused by illegal immigration. People come here and multiply but can't join society because of their "illegal" status. So generations of people grow up here but never identify themselves as Americans, which leads to self-segregation, economic stress, cultural clashes, crime, a sub-class of bottom-rung workers with practically no chance for advancement, etc.

The right-wing activists would have a little less to complain about and a lot less to say that other people are willing to hear, if the Federal Government would enact sensible immigration policy and then enforce it. The AZ law wouldn't have been passed if DC had been doing its job in the first place.

I agree with everything except the bolded parts.

Besides, the subsequent economic crash in Arizona would be definitely horrorlulz.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Johnny on July 29, 2010, 02:50:52 pm
The US is not Mexico. If Mexico has failed these people so badly that they must pack up and move to another country, then that should be reflected in their actions. If they want to live here, then they should identify themselves as Americans first and Mexicans second, which they don't (partly because they don't want to and partly because some elements of our society won't let them). America is a nation of immigrants. One of our biggest strengths is our ability to accept anyone. But we can't be expected to accept people who don't really want to be here, but are forced by political or economic reasons to be here, and who send everything they earn out of the country and expect to eventually move back out of the country themselves. That isn't immigration.

Im not sure you have much to back up these claims.

Also, your idea of living somewhere out of mutual benefit not being enough to be there, but also needing to assimilate some metaphysical notion of "being American" sounds a bit strange.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 02:56:22 pm

I'm not taking the Minuteman position here. I'm just saying we have immigration laws, and we should enforce them. If the laws aren't working, then we need to revise them, and enforce the new ones. We shouldn't just leave the system broke and ignore the consequences.

And by saying illegal immigration causes crime, I'm not saying that everyone coming across the border is a criminal, but that the defacto segregation between citizens and non-citizens results in higher social abrasion. It's true that most of them just want to work and earn an income they can't in Mexico. But that's also a problem. If they don't come here to join America, only to work, then they are not interested in being Americans. They have no intention of integrating, and even if they did, our broken immigration rules wouldn't let them integrate.

The US is not Mexico. If Mexico has failed these people so badly that they must pack up and move to another country, then that should be reflected in their actions. If they want to live here, then they should identify themselves as Americans first and Mexicans second, which they don't (partly because they don't want to and partly because some elements of our society won't let them). America is a nation of immigrants. One of our biggest strengths is our ability to accept anyone. But we can't be expected to accept people who don't really want to be here, but are forced by political or economic reasons to be here, and who send everything they earn out of the country and expect to eventually move back out of the country themselves. That isn't immigration.

1.  You took an apologist stance, pure and simple.  "The Arizonans have no CHOICE but to bring in the stinky because the Feds won't change the diapers!"  It's bullshit.

2.  The call for immigration law reform is a constant in the US universe.  You know about the pendulum swing, right?  That during boon times everyone's pretty lackadaisical. "Yeah, sure, come pick my strawberries for 5 cents on the dollar!  I want 'em as cheap as I can get 'em!"  But when the hard times hit, "Operation Wetback" begins again (that's an actual operation, by the way, to send the Mexicans back across the border during the Eisenhauer administration).

3.  That idea that Mexicans aren't HERE, too STAY, is debunked entirely by the fact that whites are now the ethnic minority in CA.  Get with the times, man.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 02:59:12 pm

I'm not taking the Minuteman position here. I'm just saying we have immigration laws, and we should enforce them. If the laws aren't working, then we need to revise them, and enforce the new ones. We shouldn't just leave the system broke and ignore the consequences.

And by saying illegal immigration causes crime, I'm not saying that everyone coming across the border is a criminal, but that the defacto segregation between citizens and non-citizens results in higher social abrasion. It's true that most of them just want to work and earn an income they can't in Mexico. But that's also a problem. If they don't come here to join America, only to work, then they are not interested in being Americans. They have no intention of integrating, and even if they did, our broken immigration rules wouldn't let them integrate.

The US is not Mexico. If Mexico has failed these people so badly that they must pack up and move to another country, then that should be reflected in their actions. If they want to live here, then they should identify themselves as Americans first and Mexicans second, which they don't (partly because they don't want to and partly because some elements of our society won't let them). America is a nation of immigrants. One of our biggest strengths is our ability to accept anyone. But we can't be expected to accept people who don't really want to be here, but are forced by political or economic reasons to be here, and who send everything they earn out of the country and expect to eventually move back out of the country themselves. That isn't immigration.

1.  You took an apologist stance, pure and simple.  "The Arizonans have no CHOICE but to bring in the stinky because the Feds won't change the diapers!"  It's bullshit.

2.  The call for immigration law reform is a constant in the US universe.  You know about the pendulum swing, right?  That during boon times everyone's pretty lackadaisical. "Yeah, sure, come pick my strawberries for 5 cents on the dollar!  I want 'em as cheap as I can get 'em!"  But when the hard times hit, "Operation Wetback" begins again (that's an actual operation, by the way, to send the Mexicans back across the border during the Eisenhauer administration).

3.  That idea that Mexicans aren't HERE, too STAY, is debunked entirely by the fact that whites are now the ethnic minority in CA.  Get with the times, man.

JENNE! CIRCLE THEM THAR WAGONS! THAR;S MEXIECUNS OUT THAR!!! SHOOT ANYTHING THAT IS A MOVIN'!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:13:05 pm
How's this for "an unusual stance no one else wants to say"?

ARIZONA HAS NO ONE TO BLAME BUT ITSELF FOR HOW THINGS HAVE DEVOLVED THERE.  They have fucked up their economy six ways to Sunday--not on the backs of their illegals, but in the mismanagement of their budget.  They failed to see a housing boom and consequential business boom as ever having an ending, an abrupt bubble burst, say heralded for the 9 months leading UP to it by every fucking economist worth their salt.  We heard about the 2012 of the housing market waaaaaay before it fucking happened.  But some states got greedy and milked that fucker.

...and then there were spending cuts that could've been made and weren't.

Here's one little factoid: 
Quote
The state's prisons now house 10,800 more prisoners at a cost of $405.4 million.
http://knowledge.wpcarey.asu.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1885

Eat that, Sheriff Joe.  You're part of the problem, not the solution.

And here's something that states like AZ (and CA) are failing to realize--sure you need to cut back and reduce your spending in your state budgets.  But making it so that education and health care take the bigger falls means you will have to increase your prison budgets accordingly.  Shoring up your resources is what saves you in the short and long run.

But states apparently only need to deport the Brownies to save themselves and make themselves feel better, I guess.  You know how the FEELING of security is worth so much more than actual, hard-earned security.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 03:15:56 pm
How's this for "an unusual stance no one else wants to say"?

ARIZONA HAS NO ONE TO BLAME BUT ITSELF FOR HOW THINGS HAVE DEVOLVED THERE.  They have fucked up their economy six ways to Sunday--not on the backs of their illegals, but in the mismanagement of their budget.  They failed to see a housing boom and consequential business boom as ever having an ending, an abrupt bubble burst, say heralded for the 9 months leading UP to it by every fucking economist worth their salt.  We heard about the 2012 of the housing market waaaaaay before it fucking happened.  But some states got greedy and milked that fucker.

...and then there were spending cuts that could've been made and weren't.

Here's one little factoid: 
Quote
The state's prisons now house 10,800 more prisoners at a cost of $405.4 million.
http://knowledge.wpcarey.asu.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1885

Eat that, Sheriff Joe.  You're part of the problem, not the solution.

And here's something that states like AZ (and CA) are failing to realize--sure you need to cut back and reduce your spending in your state budgets.  But making it so that education and health care take the bigger falls means you will have to increase your prison budgets accordingly.  Shoring up your resources is what saves you in the short and long run.

But states apparently only need to deport the Brownies to save themselves and make themselves feel better, I guess.  You know how the FEELING of security is worth so much more than actual, hard-earned security.

:mittens:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:22:27 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:23:02 pm
...oh by the way, I don't give two fucks about the folks staying past their visas.  I know quite a few of them.  I just brought that up as an example of Americans' stupidity about their own situations.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 03:24:21 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.

Nope, you nailed it Jenne, it's all about Mexicans.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:26:36 pm
There're several fronts that the US government could be working harder on to "seal" this immigration thing.  And it isn't.

Anyone ever ask WHY?

Because bottom line is:  we like, in the end, the way things are.  In the end, that's how it is.


(edited to fix my grammar)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 03:27:05 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.


BINGO! Jenne you are on fire!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:29:00 pm
 :oops:

I think being married to an immigrant, and being smackdab up against them all my life...it's affected me somehow.

*whipes the spittle from her mouth*

...and the fact I rate the TOEFL for a living... :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 03:29:49 pm
There's several fronts that the US government could be working harder to "seal" this immigration thing.  And it isn't.

Anyone ever ask WHY?

Because bottom line is:  we like, in the end, the way things are.  In the end, that's how it is.

Of course, if we didn't have the "illegals" to blow about what would the GOP use to fill the sails of the HMS Populist Rhetoric?

You can't expect them to build a platform on actual issues, can you?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 03:31:35 pm
There's several fronts that the US government could be working harder to "seal" this immigration thing.  And it isn't.

Anyone ever ask WHY?

Because bottom line is:  we like, in the end, the way things are.  In the end, that's how it is.

Of course, if we didn't have the "illegals" to blow about what would the GOP use to fill the sails of the HMS Populist Rhetoric?

You can't expect them to build a platform on actual issues, can you?

I took a Chicano Political History class in '93.  The professor said the exact same thing, and showed how over time, since the 19th century, that's how it's been, in CA and the rest of the US, by extrapolation.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 03:55:45 pm
There's several fronts that the US government could be working harder to "seal" this immigration thing.  And it isn't.

Anyone ever ask WHY?

Because bottom line is:  we like, in the end, the way things are.  In the end, that's how it is.

Of course, if we didn't have the "illegals" to blow about what would the GOP use to fill the sails of the HMS Populist Rhetoric?

You can't expect them to build a platform on actual issues, can you?

I took a Chicano Political History class in '93.  The professor said the exact same thing, and showed how over time, since the 19th century, that's how it's been, in CA and the rest of the US, by extrapolation.

There's a museum in Cincinnati which covers the "Know Nothings". It's amazing how close the arguments they used and the arguments currently being used are. Just swap "Catholic" and "Irish" with "Mexican"....

:vom:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:08:34 pm
It's bred into us, there HAS to be somebody to kick around.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 04:15:33 pm
It's bred into us, there HAS to be somebody to kick around.

Extra Special Bonus of being in a Collective... makes US vs THEM easy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:15:59 pm
It's bred into us, there HAS to be somebody to kick around.

Extra Special Bonus of being in a Collective... makes US vs THEM easy.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on July 29, 2010, 04:21:10 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.

I appreciated everything you wrote, and this comment is mostly just agreement with you, Dok CB and Ratatosk.

The current economy would collapse without undocumented workers preset for exploitation, because illegal economies are the main thing holding the global economy together.  Our governments leave holes in the fences (or create 'free trade zones' and so on) because current economies would collapse without them.  As you and CB explained, it’s organized crime. 

What makes more money?  A couple million people you can pay whatever you like (or even find ways to charge them money for working for you - common exploitation with nannies, for example) and deport if they try to get medical help, school for their kids, or a signed work contract?  Or making sure everyone has reasonable access to services where they can get all the papers and supports they need to get a fair shake?

Still reading the thread...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2010, 04:35:16 pm
Uh, the Federal Gov enforces tons of existing laws.

Just cuz you don't like them doesn't make them law...and besides, most of the conservative, anti-immigrant type tend to have a more, uh, Confederate view of how government should work, at least when it's not actively dropping bombs on brown people and listening to their calls.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2010, 04:37:11 pm
Maricopa county Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a message to the people who intend to protest the controversial Arizona immigration law tomorrow: “I’m ready for it.”

“I hear a rumor they want to block my jails. So if they want to block the jails they can have a little trip in the jails,” Arpaio told me on “GMA.” “So we are not going to put up with any civil disobedience just because they want to show, give a message through the media about this situation that is occurring here in Arizona.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/az-sheriff-to-protesters-if-you-block-the-jail-youll-end-up-in-the-jail.html

 :lulz:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARIZONA!

Governor Meacham, come home!  All is forgiven!  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 04:39:32 pm
NR, I'm PRO giving everyone health care and education...that's the foundation of my argument.  I wouldn't want deportation en masse because someone was seeking government help.  I think that's ass.  If you're contributing to the welfare of our government, they shouldn't be slapping your ass into jail or back across the border for it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:40:30 pm
Maricopa county Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a message to the people who intend to protest the controversial Arizona immigration law tomorrow: “I’m ready for it.”

“I hear a rumor they want to block my jails. So if they want to block the jails they can have a little trip in the jails,” Arpaio told me on “GMA.” “So we are not going to put up with any civil disobedience just because they want to show, give a message through the media about this situation that is occurring here in Arizona.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/az-sheriff-to-protesters-if-you-block-the-jail-youll-end-up-in-the-jail.html

 :lulz:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARIZONA!

Governor Meacham, come home!  All is forgiven!  :lulz:

I want Micheal Moore to do a documentary in Arizona.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2010, 04:43:17 pm
Maricopa county Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a message to the people who intend to protest the controversial Arizona immigration law tomorrow: “I’m ready for it.”

“I hear a rumor they want to block my jails. So if they want to block the jails they can have a little trip in the jails,” Arpaio told me on “GMA.” “So we are not going to put up with any civil disobedience just because they want to show, give a message through the media about this situation that is occurring here in Arizona.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/az-sheriff-to-protesters-if-you-block-the-jail-youll-end-up-in-the-jail.html

 :lulz:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARIZONA!

Governor Meacham, come home!  All is forgiven!  :lulz:

I want Micheal Moore to do a documentary in Arizona.

He can't survive at this altitude.

Also, Sheriff Joe will be our next governor.  169% Guaranteed.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:45:33 pm
Maricopa county Sheriff Joe Arpaio has a message to the people who intend to protest the controversial Arizona immigration law tomorrow: “I’m ready for it.”

“I hear a rumor they want to block my jails. So if they want to block the jails they can have a little trip in the jails,” Arpaio told me on “GMA.” “So we are not going to put up with any civil disobedience just because they want to show, give a message through the media about this situation that is occurring here in Arizona.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/az-sheriff-to-protesters-if-you-block-the-jail-youll-end-up-in-the-jail.html

 :lulz:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARIZONA!

Governor Meacham, come home!  All is forgiven!  :lulz:

I want Micheal Moore to do a documentary in Arizona.

He can't survive at this altitude.

Also, Sheriff Joe will be our next governor.  169% Guaranteed.

Horrormirth right there.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 04:47:06 pm
Someone did a documentary on Sheriff Joe's prisons, though...it was that movie about American Drug War: The Last White Hope...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:48:13 pm
Someone did a documentary on Sheriff Joe's prisons, though...it was that movie about American Drug War: The Last White Hope...

It was a complimentary story though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 29, 2010, 04:48:30 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.

Well, that's because it's about racism, Jenne.  This is the exact sort of psychology used on poor White Southerners before and during the civil war.  "Your life may be shit, but at least you aren't on the bottom.  Do you want to be on the bottom?  No?  Then support us."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2010, 04:49:38 pm
Michael Moore is a douchebag.

I'd rather Adam Curtis did a documentary, because not only would it be visually amazing, he'd research the shit out of it and go down all sorts of weird and wonderful avenues and probably end up proving Arizona is in fact legally Mexican and all Americans should be expelled, or something equally bizarre.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 04:50:12 pm
Michael Moore is a douchebag.

I'd rather Adam Curtis did a documentary, because not only would it be visually amazing, he'd research the shit out of it and go down all sorts of weird and wonderful avenues and probably end up proving Arizona is in fact legally Mexican and all Americans should be expelled, or something equally bizarre.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 04:54:36 pm
Someone did a documentary on Sheriff Joe's prisons, though...it was that movie about American Drug War: The Last White Hope...



It was a complimentary story though.

Nah, it made those prisons look like gulags, trust me.  That was an AWESOME documentary--tore straight apart the notion that the War on Drugs was anything but a political machine.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kai on July 29, 2010, 05:02:48 pm
Michael Moore is a douchebag.

I'd rather Adam Curtis did a documentary, because not only would it be visually amazing, he'd research the shit out of it and go down all sorts of weird and wonderful avenues and probably end up proving Arizona is in fact legally Mexican and all Americans should be expelled, or something equally bizarre.

 :lulz:

This thread is awesome. Jenne, you are awesome. Everything you are saying is hitting the nail right on the head.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 05:04:03 pm
:oops:  Thanks, Kai...I think I feel too strongly about these things, sometimes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Aucoq on July 29, 2010, 05:05:34 pm
Someone did a documentary on Sheriff Joe's prisons, though...it was that movie about American Drug War: The Last White Hope...



It was a complimentary story though.

Nah, it made those prisons look like gulags, trust me.  That was an AWESOME documentary--tore straight apart the notion that the War on Drugs was anything but a political machine.

Wow, I had no idea that documentary even existed. I really need to watch it.  It sounds great.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 05:05:53 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.

Well, that's because it's about racism, Jenne.  This is the exact sort of psychology used on poor White Southerners before and during the civil war.  "Your life may be shit, but at least you aren't on the bottom.  Do you want to be on the bottom?  No?  Then support us."

vex was trying to indicate that AZ had no other turnaround left in the road.  I felt strongly otherwise. 

What's nice about this is that finally, Latinos have some fucking political CLOUT.  BY SHEER VOLUME.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 05:06:23 pm
Someone did a documentary on Sheriff Joe's prisons, though...it was that movie about American Drug War: The Last White Hope...



It was a complimentary story though.

Nah, it made those prisons look like gulags, trust me.  That was an AWESOME documentary--tore straight apart the notion that the War on Drugs was anything but a political machine.

Wow, I had no idea that documentary even existed. I really need to watch it.  It sounds great.

It's like "Gasland" though...it's something that will make you sick to your stomach once it's over.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on July 29, 2010, 05:08:32 pm
NR, I'm PRO giving everyone health care and education...that's the foundation of my argument.  I wouldn't want deportation en masse because someone was seeking government help.  I think that's ass.  If you're contributing to the welfare of our government, they shouldn't be slapping your ass into jail or back across the border for it.

I understand and completely agree with you.  Sorry for not being clear, and thanks for responding.

The perspective you gained from your community, family, and so on, I learned a bit of from working with a migrant rights group and from reading a book ("Traffick: the illicit movement of people and things" by Gargi Bhattacharyya).  Also from making a lot of different friends when I moved to the city -- and getting hired faster or paid better than all the friends who were darker than me.  As kai said, you're hitting the nail on the head.

(good lesson for me here: Rhetorical questions, especially from n00bs == not a good idea.  I'm not much of a webtalker, and mistakes like this help me a lot.)

Back to reading the thread.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 05:10:05 pm
NR, I'm PRO giving everyone health care and education...that's the foundation of my argument.  I wouldn't want deportation en masse because someone was seeking government help.  I think that's ass.  If you're contributing to the welfare of our government, they shouldn't be slapping your ass into jail or back across the border for it.

I understand and completely agree with you.  Sorry for not being clear, and thanks for responding.

The perspective you gained from your community, family, and so on, I learned a bit of from working with a migrant rights group and from reading a book ("Traffick: the illicit movement of people and things" by Gargi Bhattacharyya).  Also from making a lot of different friends when I moved to the city -- and getting hired faster or paid better than all the friends who were darker than me.  As kai said, you're hitting the nail on the head.

(good lesson for me here: Rhetorical questions, especially from n00bs == not a good idea.  I'm not much of a webtalker, and mistakes like this help me a lot.)

Back to reading the thread.

S'ok.  And that book sounds interesting.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on July 29, 2010, 05:32:02 pm
S'ok. 

Thanks.  :)

Quote
And that book sounds interesting.

It's excellent.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 05:53:56 pm
The thing is, this deportation thing, it's been TRIED BEFORE.  Over and over.  By the Feds, even.  And guess what?

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Because we KNOW, from top-down, that this is not the way to flourish.  The knee-jerk reaction passes eventually, and immigrants flood in. 

BY THE BYE:  where's all the outrage at people overstaying their fucking visas?  Hm?

Anyone ever look at the figures there?  How many people come here as a "student" or on a temp work visa?  And set up families?

But ohoho!  Those folks aren't Latino!  (actually, some might be from Spain, perhaps Portugal...)  They are the rich, the White, the Yurpeen.  Or the Indian.  Or the Pakistani.  Or the Taiwanese.  ...but I digress.

They're NOT profilable, so they get, shall we say?...folded into the masses.

But where is the hysteria there?  Because I tell you what--you want to talk about endangered jobs?  THOSE are the folks takin' them.  They're middle class, they're probably  more educated than you, and guess what?  They're willing to work harder and longer because they know it's harder to start again and elsewhere if they don't.

...but again, perhaps I'm talkin' to myself here.

Well, that's because it's about racism, Jenne.  This is the exact sort of psychology used on poor White Southerners before and during the civil war.  "Your life may be shit, but at least you aren't on the bottom.  Do you want to be on the bottom?  No?  Then support us."

vex was trying to indicate that AZ had no other turnaround left in the road.  I felt strongly otherwise. 

What's nice about this is that finally, Latinos have some fucking political CLOUT.  BY SHEER VOLUME.

I agree...

Though, on the one hand, I can see how being a border state would have its own set of issues and the current drug wars/gang wars would certianly leave me uneasy if I had a ranch in Southern AZ or anywhere along that border.

I would even go so far as to say that States could implement laws targeting the Employers of illegal immigrants, which IMO would probably do more to stem then tide than randomly asking brown people for their papers.

But mostly, I find it hypocritical for a nation founded on people just walking in to have "legal immigration" vs. "illegal immigration"...  I mean quotas etc didn't even show up until the 1900's so those "my ancestors came over legally" better be recent immigrants or they can STFU.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 05:55:49 pm
The Native American part of me wants to tell all of you to GTFO!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2010, 05:57:38 pm
It would also help if there were more than 10,000 green cards a year up for grabs.

I mean, seriously, the UK has had to deal with larger waves of immigration than that in recent history (ie the last 10 years) and has done so fine, and our population is hovering about 60 million, not 307 million.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 06:01:50 pm
It would also help if there were more than 10,000 green cards a year up for grabs.

I mean, seriously, the UK has had to deal with larger waves of immigration than that in recent history (ie the last 10 years) and has done so fine, and our population is hovering about 60 million, not 307 million.

I thought it was closer to 1,000,000 per year?

Either way, its well below what we can handle    :sad:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2010, 06:32:55 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_residence_%28United_States%29#Types_of_immigration

According to this, it's 140,000, but your average Mexican labourer would only be able to apply for EB3 cards, of which there are only 10,000 available annually.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 06:34:15 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_residence_%28United_States%29#Types_of_immigration

According to this, it's 140,000, but your average Mexican labourer would only be able to apply for EB3 cards, of which there are only 10,000 available annually.

Ah yeah, the 1,000,000 included H1B and people we give safe haven to apparently.....
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 29, 2010, 06:35:54 pm
I was also surprised it was that low, when I first read about it.  No wonder most don't bother with it, what with the backlog that is being built up over the past few decades...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 06:44:07 pm

I agree...

Though, on the one hand, I can see how being a border state would have its own set of issues and the current drug wars/gang wars would certianly leave me uneasy if I had a ranch in Southern AZ or anywhere along that border.

I would even go so far as to say that States could implement laws targeting the Employers of illegal immigrants, which IMO would probably do more to stem then tide than randomly asking brown people for their papers.

But mostly, I find it hypocritical for a nation founded on people just walking in to have "legal immigration" vs. "illegal immigration"...  I mean quotas etc didn't even show up until the 1900's so those "my ancestors came over legally" better be recent immigrants or they can STFU.

...and guess who'd get hit the hardest with that?

1) Small businesses (who don't have the machinery to background check everyone), and that will die in a media fire of negative PR a million miles long.

2) The farmers--whose lobby is notoriously strong.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 06:50:39 pm

I agree...

Though, on the one hand, I can see how being a border state would have its own set of issues and the current drug wars/gang wars would certianly leave me uneasy if I had a ranch in Southern AZ or anywhere along that border.

I would even go so far as to say that States could implement laws targeting the Employers of illegal immigrants, which IMO would probably do more to stem then tide than randomly asking brown people for their papers.

But mostly, I find it hypocritical for a nation founded on people just walking in to have "legal immigration" vs. "illegal immigration"...  I mean quotas etc didn't even show up until the 1900's so those "my ancestors came over legally" better be recent immigrants or they can STFU.

...and guess who'd get hit the hardest with that?

1) Small businesses (who don't have the machinery to background check everyone), and that will die in a media fire of negative PR a million miles long.

2) The farmers--whose lobby is notoriously strong.

... Yeah, if the Fed expects there to be some bar to employment, they need to supply something reliable.

However, having worked with small businessmen in Ohio that employ 'immigrants', they seem to generally have a good idea of who is and isn't. And here, at least, they find it more profitable to hire the illegals and bet they won't get caught, or will pay some tiny fine.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 06:53:25 pm
I am still confused. These are not rabid marauders raging through the countryside raping and pillaging. In fact most of the illegals live purposefully quiet lives for obvious reasons. They are now integrated into our society like it or not.

The drug runners don't live here, they border jump.

The ones I have met seem like very nice people once you break through a few levels of paranoia.


Or is the legals that give people heartburn? Music too loud? Don't like cars with hydraulic suspensions?

What is exactly that causes minorityphobia?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 07:02:27 pm

I agree...

Though, on the one hand, I can see how being a border state would have its own set of issues and the current drug wars/gang wars would certianly leave me uneasy if I had a ranch in Southern AZ or anywhere along that border.

I would even go so far as to say that States could implement laws targeting the Employers of illegal immigrants, which IMO would probably do more to stem then tide than randomly asking brown people for their papers.

But mostly, I find it hypocritical for a nation founded on people just walking in to have "legal immigration" vs. "illegal immigration"...  I mean quotas etc didn't even show up until the 1900's so those "my ancestors came over legally" better be recent immigrants or they can STFU.

...and guess who'd get hit the hardest with that?

1) Small businesses (who don't have the machinery to background check everyone), and that will die in a media fire of negative PR a million miles long.

2) The farmers--whose lobby is notoriously strong.

... Yeah, if the Fed expects there to be some bar to employment, they need to supply something reliable.

However, having worked with small businessmen in Ohio that employ 'immigrants', they seem to generally have a good idea of who is and isn't. And here, at least, they find it more profitable to hire the illegals and bet they won't get caught, or will pay some tiny fine.

Yes, but here, in CA, where we still have the world's 8th largest economy (ahead of countries like SPAIN), that won't fly.  Most employers are STILL small businesses.  So do the math, there.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 07:04:51 pm
I am still confused. These are not rabid marauders raging through the countryside raping and pillaging. In fact most of the illegals live purposefully quiet lives for obvious reasons. They are now integrated into our society like it or not.

The drug runners don't live here, they border jump.

The ones I have met seem like very nice people once you break through a few levels of paranoia.


Or is the legals that give people heartburn? Music too loud? Don't like cars with hydraulic suspensions?

What is exactly that causes minorityphobia?

Us vs. Them.

Period, finito.

There WILL be those, mind you, who'll say, "Dude, if it was a group of [insert people from a Westernized country--read: Yurp & environs--here] came and did the same, I'd STILL say NAY!"

And I call bullshit.  Because this is just how monkeys play.

Worldwide.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 07:13:14 pm
Manager: Those mexicans are taking our jobs!  :argh!:

Co-Worker: Uh, you're a manager at the mill.

Manager: One second. (yells down to plant floor) Juan! Remember to have Pedro clean everything out from under that press tonight!

Manager to co-worker; Where were we?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 29, 2010, 07:24:57 pm
:lulz:  LAIL!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 29, 2010, 07:30:00 pm
Manager: Those mexicans are taking our jobs!  :argh!:

Co-Worker: Uh, you're a manager at the mill.

Manager: One second. (yells down to plant floor) Juan! Remember to have Pedro clean everything out from under that press tonight!

Manager to co-worker; Where were we?

:potd:

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 07:37:04 pm
 :D
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on July 29, 2010, 08:40:31 pm
Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- As Arizona's new immigration law took effect Thursday, opponents of the law hit the streets with mixed expressions of relief and outrage.

Demonstrators were arrested outside the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a staunch defender of the state measure.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/arizona.immigration.protests/index.html?hpt=T2
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 30, 2010, 02:54:48 pm
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/07/29/18654927.php

HAHAHAHAHAHA! 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on July 30, 2010, 03:20:37 pm
HOLY SHIT.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 30, 2010, 03:57:49 pm
OH FUCK TIME TO BREAK OUT THE HELMETS AND GUNS AND STUFF. :scared:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 30, 2010, 04:02:35 pm
Also, this can only end in tears.












OF LAUGHTER! :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 31, 2010, 04:02:25 am
Also, this can only end in tears.












OF LAUGHTER! :horrormirth:

OF JOY!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 31, 2010, 04:15:33 am
Also, this can only end in tears.












OF LAUGHTER! :horrormirth:

OF JOY!

OF GRATITUDE TO THE FORCES OF HORROR!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 01, 2010, 05:22:27 pm
Even the criminals are leaving Arizona!


Three convicted murderers who broke out of a Kingman, Arizona, prison got some help from a female accomplice who was on a visitation list for one of them, authorities said Saturday.

The three, described as armed and dangerous, may well be out of state or on their way to Mexico, a corrections official told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/31/arizona.prison.break/index.html?hpt=T2
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 02, 2010, 11:37:06 am
In the wake of the Obama administration's partial judicial victory last week in the litigation over Arizona's controversial immigration law, Palin said on "Fox News Sunday" that Arizona's female Republican governor has "the cojones that our president does not" when it comes to securing America's borders.

"This is a temporary suspension of some of the key elements in the law that [Arizona Gov.] Jan Brewer pushed hard for Arizonans and for the rest of the country to have the result of us being more secure," said Palin.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=fL9v4Hjua92

Palin LOVES Arizona!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on August 02, 2010, 03:46:40 pm
When was the last time Palin offered up something original?  It seems like since she quit being the Gov of Alaska, all she's done is endorse candidates and show up and do a "me too" when someone else says or does something contrary to Obama policies.  Any asshole can do that shit. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 02, 2010, 03:47:46 pm
When was the last time Palin offered up something original?  It seems like since she quit being the Gov of Alaska, all she's done is endorse candidates and show up and do a "me too" when someone else says or does something contrary to Obama policies.  Any asshole can do that shit. 

:mittens:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on August 02, 2010, 03:52:40 pm
When was the last time Palin offered up something original?  It seems like since she quit being the Gov of Alaska, all she's done is endorse candidates and show up and do a "me too" when someone else says or does something contrary to Obama policies.  Any asshole can do that shit. 

:mittens:

I C WHUT U DID THAR.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 02, 2010, 03:53:27 pm
When was the last time Palin offered up something original?  It seems like since she quit being the Gov of Alaska, all she's done is endorse candidates and show up and do a "me too" when someone else says or does something contrary to Obama policies.  Any asshole can do that shit. 

:mittens:

I C WHUT U DID THAR.

 :lulz:

Damn, busted.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on August 02, 2010, 04:31:12 pm
Quote
Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., said today that Congress should hold hearings to look into denying citizenship to illegal aliens' children born in the United States, as the fight over immigration widens into the explosive "birthright" issue.

Kyl told CBS' "Face the Nation" that he supports a call by fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., to introduce a new amendment to repeal the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/01/ftn/main6733905.shtml?tag=contentBody;featuredPost-PE
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 02, 2010, 11:01:03 pm
Quote
Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., said today that Congress should hold hearings to look into denying citizenship to illegal aliens' children born in the United States, as the fight over immigration widens into the explosive "birthright" issue.

Kyl told CBS' "Face the Nation" that he supports a call by fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., to introduce a new amendment to repeal the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/01/ftn/main6733905.shtml?tag=contentBody;featuredPost-PE

YES!  And it needs to be applied back however many generations it takes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 02, 2010, 11:13:35 pm
FUCKING ANCHOR BABBY
HOW DOES IT WORK?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on August 02, 2010, 11:51:50 pm
Quote
Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., said today that Congress should hold hearings to look into denying citizenship to illegal aliens' children born in the United States, as the fight over immigration widens into the explosive "birthright" issue.

Kyl told CBS' "Face the Nation" that he supports a call by fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., to introduce a new amendment to repeal the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/01/ftn/main6733905.shtml?tag=contentBody;featuredPost-PE
HE LOVES THE CONSTITUTION SO MUCH THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE SCISSORS TO IT!!!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on August 05, 2010, 01:15:57 am
By the way, this isn't the first time "anchor babies" and the like have been a sore subject on the backside of the "keep the varmints outta mah territoree!" politicians.  As the immigrants were "caught" coming in from the East and West, they held the pregnant woman at the holding cells/tanks/processing centers until they gave birth, many times.  Just offshore enough to be "part" of an immigrant experience but not technically in the US and born there, unless "authorized."

O America!  Thou fair deceiver and seeker of purification! 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 26, 2010, 04:34:22 pm
Native Americans in Arizona Vow to Deport All Non-Native Americans

http://glossynews.com/other-world-games/news-in-brief/201004291405/native-americans-in-arizona-vow-to-deport-all-non-native-americans/
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 26, 2010, 04:36:44 pm
Native Americans in Arizona Vow to Deport All Non-Native Americans

http://glossynews.com/other-world-games/news-in-brief/201004291405/native-americans-in-arizona-vow-to-deport-all-non-native-americans/

Of course, Chief Standing Wolf was speaking in his native tongue, so the lawmakers in the State weren’t exactly sure what the message was.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Great find Cram!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on August 26, 2010, 04:37:39 pm
Please tell me this is real.  Please oh please!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on August 26, 2010, 04:37:59 pm
If not, awesome troll of US Gov't is awesome.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 26, 2010, 04:42:52 pm
Please tell me this is real.  Please oh please!

Yes, please!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 26, 2010, 04:49:05 pm
FORT APACHE, Arizona - Watch out Rush Limbaugh. Chief Standing Wolf, who earlier this year made certain promises to rid Arizona of non-Native Americans if they didn't repeal their white man laws allowing only English-speaking people in their state, is on the war path again. This time, it's Rush Limbaugh that has the Apache leader seeing red.
Upon hearing Standing Wolf's words, Rush Limbaugh said "what?" due to the fact that he doesn't speak Apache.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i81030

 :lulz:

The story above is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on August 26, 2010, 04:50:26 pm
sadly, not real  :lol:

it's from http://glossynews.com/ , which also runs articles like Obama Gets Tough with Iran: Leaves Bitchy Note on UN Desk (http://glossynews.com/top-stories/201008250516/obama-gets-tough-with-iran-leaves-bitchy-note-on-un-desk/), and Republicans Suffering from Short-Term Memory Loss (http://glossynews.com/top-stories/politicos-and-polticians/201008250937/republicans-suffering-from-short-term-memory-loss/). ("There is worry in this country that too many in the Republican leadership have been smoking too much pot for too long. ")
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on August 26, 2010, 04:51:10 pm
If this idea takes off, and they do this with ALL the States, it might sort out that Mexico border shit, once and for all. All non Native Americans would have to apply for Asylum, in Mexico. :lulz: Or Canada.  :x  But you can't come back to Europe. That Boat already sailed, I'm afraid. Although Native Americans alsways seemed quite reasonable to me, so they might set Reservations up. In Alaska. And Utah.  :evil:
But they'd probably give you a Bus ride there, they wouldn't make you all walk.  
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on August 26, 2010, 04:51:36 pm
This won't stop me from using it for trolling purposes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on August 26, 2010, 06:01:07 pm
sadly, not real  :lol:

it's from http://glossynews.com/ , which also runs articles like Obama Gets Tough with Iran: Leaves Bitchy Note on UN Desk (http://glossynews.com/top-stories/201008250516/obama-gets-tough-with-iran-leaves-bitchy-note-on-un-desk/), and Republicans Suffering from Short-Term Memory Loss (http://glossynews.com/top-stories/politicos-and-polticians/201008250937/republicans-suffering-from-short-term-memory-loss/). ("There is worry in this country that too many in the Republican leadership have been smoking too much pot for too long. ")

I kinda figured.  "glossynews" sounded too much like a satrical site.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on September 03, 2010, 12:00:49 am
Proof that Jan Brewer has the same speech writer as Palin:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/the-sound-of-silence/?partner=rss&emc=rss
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2010, 12:25:37 am
Fuck you, Arizona.  No, really.  Fuck you.

http://www.fox11az.com/news/102024823.html

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No charges in Ariz. inmate's death in cage
Associated Press

Posted on September 1, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Updated today at 4:01 AM


PHOENIX (AP) — There will be no criminal charges following the heat-related death of an Arizona inmate who collapsed in an outdoor cage last year.

Bill Fitzgerald, a spokesman for the Maricopa County1 Attorney's Office, said Wednesday that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute the case.

Fitzgerald says the Department of Corrections had recommended charges against seven officials.

Inmate Marcia Powell died in May 2009 after she was left for nearly four hours in an unshaded outdoor cage. An autopsy report showed she had first- and second-degree burns and a core body temperature of 108 degrees.

Administrators fired, suspended or otherwise disciplined 16 corrections employees over Powell's death.


1  Maricopa county.  Guess who that is?  Oh, yeah, Sheriff Joe "We lost another dozen prisoners" Arpeio.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 03, 2010, 12:27:22 am
That's distressing.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: N E T on September 03, 2010, 12:27:56 am
I can't say I'm surprised at this point.

My hatred of Arizona is about maxed out.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 03, 2010, 01:10:04 am
Proof that Jan Brewer has the same speech writer as Palin:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/the-sound-of-silence/?partner=rss&emc=rss

 :facepalm:

Doesn't Arizona have standards?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2010, 01:46:19 am
Proof that Jan Brewer has the same speech writer as Palin:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/the-sound-of-silence/?partner=rss&emc=rss

 :facepalm:

Doesn't Arizona have standards?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What are those?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 03, 2010, 05:12:21 am
 :argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2010, 05:24:04 am
:argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.

Was she serious? 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 03, 2010, 05:25:49 am
It's getting too weird for people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 03, 2010, 05:28:18 am
:argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.

Was she serious? 
Dead serious. She was upset by it and didn't want to know.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 03, 2010, 07:10:46 am
:argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.

Was she serious? 
Dead serious. She was upset by it and didn't want to know.
:kingmeh:

Kinda makes me want to find a forum full of people like that and just start posting all the news articles like this.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nast on September 03, 2010, 07:29:44 am
Just because we have rules against cruel and unusual punishment, doesn't keep us from locking people in cages until they burn up in the sun.

And you know, that whole torture thing on the side.

America is always acting as if they it's looking down from some cloud on all the other nasty brutish countries, but it all it needs to do is look at itself and see the same ugly things happening.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on September 03, 2010, 01:50:11 pm
Well, lookie here...


Feds sue Arizona sheriff in civil rights probe (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38973698/ns/us_news/)

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PHOENIX — The Justice Department sued the nation's self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff" on Thursday, calling Joe Arpaio's defiance of an investigation into his office's alleged discrimination against Hispanics "unprecedented."

It's the first time in decades a lawman has refused to cooperate in one of the agency's probes, the department said.

The Arizona sheriff had been given until Aug. 17 to hand over documents the federal government first asked for 15 months ago, when it started investigating alleged discrimination, unconstitutional searches and seizures, and jail policies that discriminate against people with limited English skills.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 03, 2010, 03:42:20 pm
Well, lookie here...


Feds sue Arizona sheriff in civil rights probe (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38973698/ns/us_news/)

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PHOENIX — The Justice Department sued the nation's self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff" on Thursday, calling Joe Arpaio's defiance of an investigation into his office's alleged discrimination against Hispanics "unprecedented."

It's the first time in decades a lawman has refused to cooperate in one of the agency's probes, the department said.

The Arizona sheriff had been given until Aug. 17 to hand over documents the federal government first asked for 15 months ago, when it started investigating alleged discrimination, unconstitutional searches and seizures, and jail policies that discriminate against people with limited English skills.



FINALLY! I want to see that bastard BURN. Figuratively if that's all I'm getting, but literally would be nice too. I hate what he and Brewer are making AZ look like.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 03, 2010, 07:02:05 pm
Fuck yes. That's good and I hope he gets the book catapulted at his face.

:argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.

Was she serious? 
Dead serious. She was upset by it and didn't want to know.
:kingmeh:

Kinda makes me want to find a forum full of people like that and just start posting all the news articles like this.
I live with those people. :lol: It's not nearly as much fun as you might hope. They block it out and keep going in their pretty little trouble-free world.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2010, 10:31:51 pm
:argh!: Freaking Arizona.

 :lulz: I just told my mom about this, and she told me no one needs to know about that stuff.

Was she serious? 
Dead serious. She was upset by it and didn't want to know.

This is the way we run the trains, run the trains, run the trains,
This is the way we run the trains, and all of them are on time!1



1 But nobody wants to know where they go.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 03, 2010, 10:35:29 pm

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No charges in Ariz. inmate's death in cage
Associated Press

Posted on September 1, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Updated today at 4:01 AM


PHOENIX (AP) — There will be no criminal charges following the heat-related death of an Arizona inmate who collapsed in an outdoor cage last year.

Bill Fitzgerald, a spokesman for the Maricopa County1 Attorney's Office, said Wednesday that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute the case.

Fitzgerald says the Department of Corrections had recommended charges against seven officials.

Inmate Marcia Powell died in May 2009 after she was left for nearly four hours in an unshaded outdoor cage. An autopsy report showed she had first- and second-degree burns and a core body temperature of 108 degrees.

Administrators fired, suspended or otherwise disciplined 16 corrections employees over Powell's death.



those inmates were obviously vampires
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Thurnez Isa on September 03, 2010, 10:38:13 pm
So they kill an inmate by leaving her in a cage outside and the administrators get "fired, suspended or otherwise disciplined?"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 03, 2010, 11:49:40 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2010, 08:45:34 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 04, 2010, 08:53:48 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 04, 2010, 09:13:29 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 04, 2010, 09:16:09 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on September 04, 2010, 09:17:55 pm
Thanks. I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Kurt Christ on September 04, 2010, 09:21:13 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.
Mussolini in Italy is who the "At least he makes the trains run on time" phrase refers to, but it's the same general idea.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2010, 09:40:23 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.

Mussolini. 

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2010, 09:41:55 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.

It was a reference to pre-WWII Italy, where Mussolini made all the trains run on time.  I just put it to a childrens' rhyme.

Of course, where those trains wound up going...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 04, 2010, 09:46:53 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.

It was a reference to pre-WWII Italy, where Mussolini made all the trains run on time.  I just put it to a childrens' rhyme.

Of course, where those trains wound up going...

Where?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 04, 2010, 09:57:31 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.
Mussolini in Italy is who the "At least he makes the trains run on time" phrase refers to, but it's the same general idea.

i do not distinguish among fascist leaders. they are all hitler. this is the 21st century after all, so there's no time for real history, only proper history.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Phox on September 04, 2010, 10:22:41 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.

It was a reference to pre-WWII Italy, where Mussolini made all the trains run on time.  I just put it to a childrens' rhyme.

Of course, where those trains wound up going...

Where?

To Texas, of course. Those evil italian fascist bastards!  :evilmad:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 04, 2010, 10:37:42 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.
Mussolini in Italy is who the "At least he makes the trains run on time" phrase refers to, but it's the same general idea.

i do not distinguish among fascist leaders. they are all hitler. this is the 21st century after all, so there's no time for real history, only proper history.

IT WOULD BREAK YOUR LEG TO LAUGH AND ADMIT YOU WERE MISTAKEN.

THAT FUCKING FEMUR WOULD SNAP LIKE A MATCHSTICK.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 04, 2010, 11:18:34 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.
Mussolini in Italy is who the "At least he makes the trains run on time" phrase refers to, but it's the same general idea.

i do not distinguish among fascist leaders. they are all hitler. this is the 21st century after all, so there's no time for real history, only proper history.

IT WOULD BREAK YOUR LEG TO LAUGH AND ADMIT YOU WERE MISTAKEN.

THAT FUCKING FEMUR WOULD SNAP LIKE A MATCHSTICK.

 :lulz:

nah, i know i was mistaken. and i admit i was wrong all the time about lots of stuff, and not just here.

also, my reply was pretty much an admission of my mistake, dressed up as a flat joke, which at least hints i was laughing.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on September 05, 2010, 07:33:16 pm
Ain't is a beautiful country?

And where's that from, Dok? I did a search and nothing turned up.

Where's what from?

"The trains all run on time." You're always saying it. Come o think of it, I don't get it either.
Yeah, the trains. Sorry I wasn't clear enough. :)

Hitler famously made all the trains in Germany run on time, or at least popular myth says he did.
You people need moar history.

It's a fascist campaign line I believe, originally from Italy.  As in "Vote for the Fascist party, we'll make sure the trains run on time"  They actually did not, nor did the Nazis, Under the Fascists Italian trains actually had worse delays than previously.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 06, 2010, 06:27:22 am
But I still want to know where the trains went. :?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Phox on September 06, 2010, 06:28:38 am
But I still want to know where the trains went. :?

To Texas, of course. Those evil italian fascist bastards!  :evilmad:

 :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 06, 2010, 10:58:33 am
But I still want to know where the trains went. :?

I don't think he was referring to a specific physical place. Mussolini used the train system to propel himself into leadership and Italy went to hell on their trains. Sadly, Mussolini actually did very little to restore the trains at all, he just took credit for the work done since WW1 and the people believed him.

In spite of all the talk the trains still didn't really run on time, but by the time this was public knowledge, arguing about it would end you in a very bad place.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on September 06, 2010, 11:16:48 am
But I still want to know where the trains went. :?

Auschwitz
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 06, 2010, 04:34:28 pm
But I still want to know where the trains went. :?

(http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/buchenwald/images/buchenwald03.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 06, 2010, 04:40:36 pm
Oh right. :oops:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 06, 2010, 04:59:28 pm
On a lighter note:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/05/brewer-admits-wrong/

Quote
Months after initially making the claim that undocumented immigrants were beheading people in the Arizona desert, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has finally admitted that she was wrong. Brewer first raised the spectre of beheadings on June 16 during an interview  with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, when she said: “We cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it, everything from the crime and to the drugs and the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.” She doubled down when questioned  on the claim by an Arizona reporter two weeks later. Brewer said, “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.”
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 06, 2010, 05:02:47 pm
On a lighter note:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/05/brewer-admits-wrong/

Quote
Months after initially making the claim that undocumented immigrants were beheading people in the Arizona desert, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has finally admitted that she was wrong. Brewer first raised the spectre of beheadings on June 16 during an interview  with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, when she said: “We cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it, everything from the crime and to the drugs and the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.” She doubled down when questioned  on the claim by an Arizona reporter two weeks later. Brewer said, “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.”

Uhhh. What? I hadn't heard this. :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 06, 2010, 05:26:05 pm
On a lighter note:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/05/brewer-admits-wrong/

Quote
Months after initially making the claim that undocumented immigrants were beheading people in the Arizona desert, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has finally admitted that she was wrong. Brewer first raised the spectre of beheadings on June 16 during an interview  with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, when she said: “We cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it, everything from the crime and to the drugs and the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.” She doubled down when questioned  on the claim by an Arizona reporter two weeks later. Brewer said, “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.”

Uhhh. What? I hadn't heard this. :horrormirth:

Are you serious? Hell I thought everybody had heard about that.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 06, 2010, 05:30:55 pm
On a lighter note:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/05/brewer-admits-wrong/

Quote
Months after initially making the claim that undocumented immigrants were beheading people in the Arizona desert, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has finally admitted that she was wrong. Brewer first raised the spectre of beheadings on June 16 during an interview  with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, when she said: “We cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it, everything from the crime and to the drugs and the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.” She doubled down when questioned  on the claim by an Arizona reporter two weeks later. Brewer said, “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.”

Uhhh. What? I hadn't heard this. :horrormirth:

Are you serious? Hell I thought everybody had heard about that.

I don't follow the news. I figure if it's lulzy enough, I'll hear it from Dok.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 06, 2010, 05:32:38 pm
On a lighter note:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/05/brewer-admits-wrong/

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Months after initially making the claim that undocumented immigrants were beheading people in the Arizona desert, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (R) has finally admitted that she was wrong. Brewer first raised the spectre of beheadings on June 16 during an interview  with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, when she said: “We cannot afford all this illegal immigration and everything that comes with it, everything from the crime and to the drugs and the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.” She doubled down when questioned  on the claim by an Arizona reporter two weeks later. Brewer said, “Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.”

Uhhh. What? I hadn't heard this. :horrormirth:

Are you serious? Hell I thought everybody had heard about that.

I don't follow the news. I figure if it's lulzy enough, I'll hear it from Dok.

 :lulz:

TFYS, silly.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 06, 2010, 05:47:45 pm
While I agree in principle, how is following the news TFYS?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 06, 2010, 05:52:26 pm
While I agree in principle, how is following the news TFYS?

I only put it there because she said she relied on you for news. As much as I like and respect you, I'm still going to want to know and research for myself. Also I like and respect Miss Freeky, no offense intended!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 06, 2010, 05:53:44 pm
While I agree in principle, how is following the news TFYS?

I only put it there because she said she relied on you for news. As much as I like and respect you, I'm still going to want to know and research for myself. Also I like and respect Miss Freeky, no offense intended!

If I thought Freeky was looking to me for her opinion on the news, I'd walk away until she got better. 

Waiting to hear the funny gleaned out of the news is something else entirely.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 06, 2010, 05:54:26 pm
While I agree in principle, how is following the news TFYS?

I only put it there because she said she relied on you for news. As much as I like and respect you, I'm still going to want to know and research for myself. Also I like and respect Miss Freeky, no offense intended!

If I thought Freeky was looking to me for her opinion on the news, I'd walk away until she got better. 

Waiting to hear the funny gleaned out of the news is something else entirely.

 :lulz:

Point made.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 07, 2010, 03:10:21 pm
Dok is a way better source for news than most of the local papers.

Cain too.


Nassim Nicholas Taleb thinks you should only get your news from your friends. That way, it's prefiltered for relevance, you're not absorbing too much of the newsmedia's agenda and bias.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 07, 2010, 03:46:11 pm
Dok is a way better source for news than most of the local papers.

Cain too.


Nassim Nicholas Taleb thinks you should only get your news from your friends. That way, it's prefiltered for relevance, you're not absorbing too much of the newsmedia's agenda and bias.

That makes a whole bunch of sense.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on September 07, 2010, 03:54:46 pm
But where do they get their news?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on September 07, 2010, 03:54:59 pm
I'm weird. I enjoy sifting through a mountain of silt just to find a gold nugget or two.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 07, 2010, 03:59:23 pm
But where do they get their news?

IIRC, taleb thinks you should listen to friends that are experts in whatever they're interested in

ie Dok is right there in Arizona - so he understands the story much better than those spags on the evening news.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 07, 2010, 04:00:14 pm
But where do they get their news?

IIRC, taleb thinks you should listen to friends that are experts in whatever they're interested in

ie Dok is right there in Arizona - he is much better at letting us know what the story is than those spags on the evening news.

Troof.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2010, 05:28:21 pm
But where do they get their news?

Reuters, AP, and the local paper.  The local paper has a bad habit of telling the Truth, and it's readership is dropping, as it caters to neither the fringe right or the fringe left.  There's lots of outrage, but it isn't about Obama being a muslim terrorist socialist peacenik Nazi, nor is it about Glenn Beck's latest hilarity.

Mostly, it has to do with The City eating people, and what our state government is doing to its citizenry.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2010, 05:30:46 pm
But where do they get their news?

IIRC, taleb thinks you should listen to friends that are experts in whatever they're interested in

ie Dok is right there in Arizona - so he understands the story much better than those spags on the evening news.

The plastic surgery people on my TV also smile too much, when they tell me about the 4 year old's bones found in a wash all covered in coyote teeth marks.

It's the wrong kind of smile.  It's the smile that harried airline attendants (remember stewardesses) give you while you exit the plane.  Buh bye.  Bye now.  Buh bye.  Bye now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 07, 2010, 05:32:34 pm
If they don't smile, who will? This century is a ROARING GOOD TIME and you better act like it!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 07, 2010, 05:33:29 pm
If they don't smile, who will? This century is a ROARING GOOD TIME and you better act like it!

That's the kind of smile I want.  Sort of a smile you'd get from the female villain in Hudson Hawk.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Telarus on September 08, 2010, 01:14:47 am
If they don't smile, who will? This century is a ROARING GOOD TIME and you better act like it!

That's the kind of smile I want.  Sort of a smile you'd get from the female villain in Hudson Hawk.

Goddess, that movie had more impact on my highschool personality than I'd like to admit. =P
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 08, 2010, 02:40:48 am

Goddess,

Why?  For the love of Baby Jebus, why?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on September 10, 2010, 07:01:12 am
Oh hey, spam, buh bye now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Remington on September 20, 2010, 09:19:52 pm
http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-rights/blog/arizona-sheriff-forming-vigilante-group/ (http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-rights/blog/arizona-sheriff-forming-vigilante-group/)
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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced that he intends to put together a volunteer vigilante force to hunt undocumented persons.  The announcement came by way of press release and is one long advocated for by Arpaio supporter and open neo-Nazi J.T. Ready. 

According the the press release, "The Sheriff will soon implement his plan to commission a volunteer armed posse force outfitted with appropriate hardware and gear to assist in the enforcement of illegal immigration and human smuggling laws."

 :horrormirth:

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 09:23:07 pm
 :lulz:  :lulz:  :lulz:

My money is on the smugglers.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on September 20, 2010, 09:24:30 pm
They likely have a bigger budget than Arpaio, for starters.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 10:24:17 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 10:25:16 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 10:27:00 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 10:33:11 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

No, that was motherhood and apple pie.  Sheriff Joe is just doing the same thing, only with smudgy people.  If you oppose him, you hate America, motherhood, apple pie, and puppies.

Stop hating on the puppies, Freeky.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on September 20, 2010, 10:33:45 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

Why do you hate America?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 10:37:43 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

No, that was motherhood and apple pie.  Sheriff Joe is just doing the same thing, only with smudgy people.  If you oppose him, you hate America, motherhood, apple pie, and puppies.

Stop hating on the puppies, Freeky.

So what you're telling me is "Yes, the only thing that can stop Sherriff Joe now is for people to shoot him in the fucking face until he dies."

:( Who's got the balls and the stomach for that in this day and age?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 20, 2010, 10:39:25 pm
I don't know, but I do feel a whole lot safer with bands of armed vigilantes roaming the streets looking for people who aren't American™ enough.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 10:41:42 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

No, that was motherhood and apple pie.  Sheriff Joe is just doing the same thing, only with smudgy people.  If you oppose him, you hate America, motherhood, apple pie, and puppies.

Stop hating on the puppies, Freeky.

So what you're telling me is "Yes, the only thing that can stop Sherriff Joe now is for people to shoot him in the fucking face until he dies."

:( Who's got the balls and the stomach for that in this day and age?

I don't want to stop him.  I want America to get every single thing it's demanded.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 10:43:53 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

No, that was motherhood and apple pie.  Sheriff Joe is just doing the same thing, only with smudgy people.  If you oppose him, you hate America, motherhood, apple pie, and puppies.

Stop hating on the puppies, Freeky.

So what you're telling me is "Yes, the only thing that can stop Sherriff Joe now is for people to shoot him in the fucking face until he dies."

:( Who's got the balls and the stomach for that in this day and age?

I don't want to stop him.  I want America to get every single thing it's demanded.

I want to stop him (and I really do wish I had the balls to do it myself) because... Because...

BECAUSE UNFAIRNESS AND MOTHERHOOD AND APPLE FUCKING PIE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 10:45:45 pm
Um, is this where, to make a difference, normal citizens make their own group to oppose this vigilante group? Cuz thats what it about feels like.

No, that would be criminal.


Well, obviously. But so was the American revolution.

No, that was motherhood and apple pie.  Sheriff Joe is just doing the same thing, only with smudgy people.  If you oppose him, you hate America, motherhood, apple pie, and puppies.

Stop hating on the puppies, Freeky.

So what you're telling me is "Yes, the only thing that can stop Sherriff Joe now is for people to shoot him in the fucking face until he dies."

:( Who's got the balls and the stomach for that in this day and age?

I don't want to stop him.  I want America to get every single thing it's demanded.

I want to stop him (and I really do wish I had the balls to do it myself) because... Because...

BECAUSE UNFAIRNESS AND MOTHERHOOD AND APPLE FUCKING PIE.

America™ is obsessed with the idea of handing over the rule of law and their liberties for safety from something that doesn't exist.

I would rather they were unable to purchase safety at any price, and either go mad (ie, become Americans again, instead of Americans™), or just give up and admit they're a pack of pussies.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on September 20, 2010, 10:48:12 pm
<------ Going mad.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 10:49:44 pm
<------ Going mad.

I'd elaborate, but I've retired from ranting.  Besides, you get the idea.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on November 16, 2010, 11:08:33 am
Oh, Arizona. Your xenophobia never ceases to amaze me.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/15/mosque-church-whoopsidoodles/

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In an era saturated with absurd moments of anti-Muslim fear-mongering, mosques have become a touchstone for Islamophobia. Even unbuilt mosques have set off a wave of anti-Muslim sentiment in Tennessee, Texas, California, and most notably, New York. Not to be outdone, the people of Pheonix, AZ were quick to call foul over the appearance of a dome-like structure along an interstate. But in the clamor over the impending Muslim takeover, these Arizonans missed one small detail — the building is not a Mosque, it’s a church:

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    A new dome-like structure near 19th Avenue along Interstate 10 in Phoenix is the Light of the World church, a nondenominational Christian church hoping to modernize traditional worship services, a church spokesman said

    Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who’ve mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque.

    On Wednesday, church officials hung a sign reminding people they’re Christian congregation. “We’re trying to let people know that we’re Christian and our churches are modern,” said Uzieo Martinez.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on November 16, 2010, 12:39:05 pm
You know, Russian Orthodox Churches have domes, and could be mistaken for a mosque (by idiots).

Maybe Russian Orthodox Christianity is really a covert form of Islam?  This would mean America has been at war with Islam since 1917 and the
ongoing conflict is just really an extension of the Cold War. 

Oh man, this needs to be passed onto Alex Jones.  Or Joel Skousen.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on November 16, 2010, 02:14:05 pm
Oh, Arizona. Your xenophobia never ceases to amaze me.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/11/15/mosque-church-whoopsidoodles/

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In an era saturated with absurd moments of anti-Muslim fear-mongering, mosques have become a touchstone for Islamophobia. Even unbuilt mosques have set off a wave of anti-Muslim sentiment in Tennessee, Texas, California, and most notably, New York. Not to be outdone, the people of Pheonix, AZ were quick to call foul over the appearance of a dome-like structure along an interstate. But in the clamor over the impending Muslim takeover, these Arizonans missed one small detail — the building is not a Mosque, it’s a church:

Quote
    A new dome-like structure near 19th Avenue along Interstate 10 in Phoenix is the Light of the World church, a nondenominational Christian church hoping to modernize traditional worship services, a church spokesman said

    Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who’ve mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque.

    On Wednesday, church officials hung a sign reminding people they’re Christian congregation. “We’re trying to let people know that we’re Christian and our churches are modern,” said Uzieo Martinez.

Fucking Phoenicians. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on November 19, 2010, 05:37:03 am
HULK WANT SMASH BORDER CROSSERS!
"Hulk" actor joins Arizona sheriff's posse (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AH0VR20101118)
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(Reuters) - Television 'Hulk' actor Lou Ferrigno has joined an Arizona sheriff's posse targeting illegal immigrants in the Phoenix valley area, the sheriff's office said on Wednesday.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Ferrigno, 59, a body builder who donned green makeup to star in the popular 1970s television series 'The Incredible Hulk,' was among 56 people sworn in as volunteers for an armed immigration posse.

Arpaio said the posse would work with sheriff's deputies in operations targeting smugglers and businesses suspected of employing illegal immigrants in the county, among other duties.

Arizona passed a tough law earlier this year requiring police to determine the immigration status of people they suspected were in the country illegally. Key parts were stayed by a U.S. federal judge before it came into effect in late July.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on November 19, 2010, 05:40:03 am
He's mad because their accent is still more intelligible than his lisp.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on November 19, 2010, 06:34:48 am
He's mad

A case of life imitating art?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on November 19, 2010, 07:28:02 am
This place is awful.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Iason Ouabache on December 05, 2010, 12:42:12 am
LOL, DEATH PANELS!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/us/05transplant.html?_r=2

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What distinguishes the reductions recently imposed in Arizona, where coverage was eliminated on Oct. 1 for certain transplants of the heart, liver, lung, pancreas and bone marrow, is the decision to stop paying for treatments urgently needed to ward off death.

The cuts in transplant coverage, which could deny organs to 100 adults currently on the transplant list, are testament to both the severity of fiscal pressures on the states and the particular bloodlessness of budget-cutting in Arizona.

“It’s a real sign of the times,” said Alan Weil, executive director of the National Academy for State Health Policy. “And I think this is a precursor to a much larger number of states having this discussion.”

Policy choices with such life-threatening implications are all the more striking given the partisan framing of the health debate.

Republicans have argued that the new health law will lead to rationing, warning even of “death panels.” Democrats have responded that care is already rationed, with 50 million people going largely without insurance, and that the law will bring greater equity.

The Arizona case, said Diane Rowland, director of the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured, “is a classic example of making decisions based not on medical need but based on a budget.” And, she added, “it results, potentially, in denial of care to individuals in a life-or-death situation.”
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on December 15, 2010, 02:08:06 am
This article makes Tuscon sound rather pleasant.

From Tuscon, A Few Ideas on Brightening Your Neighborhood (http://www.shareable.net/blog/from-tucson-a-few-ideas-on-brightening-your-neighborhood)
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At first glance Tucson, like many American cities, appears an endless expanse of highways and strip malls. But hang around a bit and you’ll discover authentic neighborhoods full of mission-style bungalows or classic adobe buildings built decades before “Southwestern Style” became the rage in the 1980s.

My favorite part of town is the Fourth Avenue-University district—a hot spot for hearing music, hanging out at sidwalk cafes and browsing through indy businesses.  I dropped by there last week before catching a flight home to the snows of Minnesota, and was struck by several things enlivening the neighborhood that could be adopted anywhere.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2010, 07:08:54 pm
This article makes Tuscon sound rather pleasant.

From Tuscon, A Few Ideas on Brightening Your Neighborhood (http://www.shareable.net/blog/from-tucson-a-few-ideas-on-brightening-your-neighborhood)
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At first glance Tucson, like many American cities, appears an endless expanse of highways and strip malls. But hang around a bit and you’ll discover authentic neighborhoods full of mission-style bungalows or classic adobe buildings built decades before “Southwestern Style” became the rage in the 1980s.

My favorite part of town is the Fourth Avenue-University district—a hot spot for hearing music, hanging out at sidwalk cafes and browsing through indy businesses.  I dropped by there last week before catching a flight home to the snows of Minnesota, and was struck by several things enlivening the neighborhood that could be adopted anywhere.

4th Avenue is how we lure in fresh genetic material.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: the last yatto on December 15, 2010, 07:14:34 pm
Lotto winner is an old man?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 15, 2010, 07:46:11 pm
Lotto winner is an old man?

WTF are you talking about?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: the last yatto on December 15, 2010, 10:13:18 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD45L20101214
PHOENIX (Reuters) - Ending nearly two weeks of suspense, a 64-year-old substitute
teacher and single parent from Arizona claimed a $95.3 million Powerball jackpot.
Sheila Verke, a Fort Mohave resident, presented the single-winning ticket to lottery officials in Phoenix on Monday. She opted to take a lump sum payment of $49.9 million, saying she plans to buy a recreational vehicle and travel the country.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pæs on December 16, 2010, 11:33:10 am
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD45L20101214
PHOENIX (Reuters) - Ending nearly two weeks of suspense, a 64-year-old substitute
teacher and single parent from Arizona claimed a $95.3 million Powerball jackpot.
Sheila Verke, a Fort Mohave resident, presented the single-winning ticket to lottery officials in Phoenix on Monday. She opted to take a lump sum payment of $49.9 million, saying she plans to buy a recreational vehicle and travel the country.
What the fuck, Arizona!?  :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on January 26, 2011, 04:48:52 pm
At least 17 people have been arrested in and around the city of Phoenix.

The suspects are accused of conspiring to buy firearms, including assault rifles, for Mexico's Sinaloa cartel.

The US is under pressure to curb the flow of guns into Mexico, where more than 15,000 people were killed in drug-related violence last year

A federal grand jury indictment unsealed on Tuesday alleged the suspects had conspired to buy guns and illegally export them to Mexico for use by drug cartels.

They are accused of acting as "straw purchasers" by claiming the weapons they bought from licensed Arizona gun shops were for their own use, when in fact they were destined for the Sinaloa cartel, the prosecutor's office said.

"The massive size of this operation sadly exemplifies the magnitude of the problem - Mexican drug lords go shopping for weapons of war in Arizona," the statement added.

The guns included AK-47 assault rifles, a weapon of choice for drug cartel gunmen.

All of those indicted are US citizens or legal residents.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12281727

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Telarus on January 26, 2011, 07:22:12 pm
Well, once the meth laws happened and they had to figure out a new procurement chain for the basic ingredients, and once the new decentralized 'shoppers' scheme worked out so well, you know some dude had a brilliant idea.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on January 26, 2011, 07:24:13 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BD45L20101214
PHOENIX (Reuters) - Ending nearly two weeks of suspense, a 64-year-old substitute
teacher and single parent from Arizona claimed a $95.3 million Powerball jackpot.
Sheila Verke, a Fort Mohave resident, presented the single-winning ticket to lottery officials in Phoenix on Monday. She opted to take a lump sum payment of $49.9 million, saying she plans to buy a recreational vehicle and travel the country.
What the fuck, Arizona!?  :argh!:

I would have done exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on January 26, 2011, 07:28:11 pm
You bet.

It's been shown that the lesser lump sum payment, when invested, ends up being worth more than the full prize strung out over decades.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on January 26, 2011, 07:29:25 pm
You bet.

It's been shown that the lesser lump sum payment, when invested, ends up being worth more than the full prize strung out over decades.

Factor in her age, she doesn't have decades.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Johnny on February 09, 2011, 10:25:32 pm

Quote from: http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/743638.html

Paul Babeau, Sheriff of the Pinal zone of Arizona, remarks that the combat to the mexican cartels has come to a critical point, because of this it has been necessary to change the strategy to confront them. Now, there will be sent to the desert zone of Vekol Valley, officers to confront the cartels.

"And were not talking about illegal immigrants. Were talkinga bout cartels that almost have knocked the mexican government out of power and they think they can come to our county and commit these crimes of violence. This will not happen here".

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Taking bets on how long before they find his corpse hanging from a bridge.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on February 27, 2011, 04:06:12 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41803019/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

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PHOENIX — Scott Bundgaard, the Arizona state Senate majority leader, was involved in a domestic violence dispute with his girlfriend, but was not arrested because he has legislative immunity, police said on Saturday.

Republican Bundgaard's girlfriend, Aubry Ballard, 34, was booked for domestic violence assault, police said.

Phoenix police responded to a report on Friday night that Bundgaard was pulling Ballard out of a car stopped next to the median on State Route 51.

When officers arrived, they encountered Bundgaard and Ballard, and saw both had marks on their bodies showing they had been in a physical altercation, said Police Department spokesman Sgt. Tommy Thompson.

Bundgaard and Ballard were both detained, but Bundgaard told officers that under Arizona law he is immune from arrest while the legislature is in session, police said.

Police found Bundgaard could correctly claim immunity, but the case was submitted to prosecutors for review.

Bundgaard released a statement on Saturday saying he was innocent of wrongdoing. He said the physical altercation began when he had stopped the car, and his girlfriend moved into the driver's seat and refused to get out.

"I had no choice but to pull her from the driver's seat, which resulted in marks on her knees," Bundgaard said.

"I had also had no choice but to stop her from punching me and risking highway safety, all of which resulted in a black eye for me and a busted lip," he said.

He added, "I waive any and all 'legislative immunity.' If I did something wrong, charge me. I did not."

Bundgaard is the co-sponsor of controversial Arizona state legislation seeking to challenge the right to U.S. citizenship for children born in the state whose parents are illegal immigrants or other non-citizens.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: *GrumpButt* on February 27, 2011, 06:50:44 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41803019/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

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PHOENIX — Scott Bundgaard, the Arizona state Senate majority leader, was involved in a domestic violence dispute with his girlfriend, but was not arrested because he has legislative immunity, police said on Saturday.

Republican Bundgaard's girlfriend, Aubry Ballard, 34, was booked for domestic violence assault, police said.

Phoenix police responded to a report on Friday night that Bundgaard was pulling Ballard out of a car stopped next to the median on State Route 51.

When officers arrived, they encountered Bundgaard and Ballard, and saw both had marks on their bodies showing they had been in a physical altercation, said Police Department spokesman Sgt. Tommy Thompson.

Bundgaard and Ballard were both detained, but Bundgaard told officers that under Arizona law he is immune from arrest while the legislature is in session, police said.

Police found Bundgaard could correctly claim immunity, but the case was submitted to prosecutors for review.

Bundgaard released a statement on Saturday saying he was innocent of wrongdoing. He said the physical altercation began when he had stopped the car, and his girlfriend moved into the driver's seat and refused to get out.

"I had no choice but to pull her from the driver's seat, which resulted in marks on her knees," Bundgaard said.

"I had also had no choice but to stop her from punching me and risking highway safety, all of which resulted in a black eye for me and a busted lip," he said.

He added, "I waive any and all 'legislative immunity.' If I did something wrong, charge me. I did not."

Bundgaard is the co-sponsor of controversial Arizona state legislation seeking to challenge the right to U.S. citizenship for children born in the state whose parents are illegal immigrants or other non-citizens.


 :|
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:12:58 pm
Arizona is going to a flat tax.

The top 13% are thrilled, to say the least.

Senator Steve Court (R-Whore) has said that it's time to stop victimizing the rich.  "It's about fairness in how we tax."

No more deductions for mortgages, dependents, and donations, of course.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on March 25, 2011, 03:17:08 pm
The fuck?

The base ignorance of humanity fills me with... something.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on March 25, 2011, 03:19:06 pm
...because AZ needs to get itself out of the red...by taxing the poor...nice.

I just can't wrap my head around the amount of FAIL states are engaging in.  This new era of STATES RIGHTS! GIVE THE STATES THE POWAH! is really cheesing me off.  Hard.

I need a drink.

DA6S!  PASS THE WHISKEY!  IT'S 8:18 AM AND I NEED A FUCKING WHACK OFF SOMETHING GOOD.


...

(leaving that one wide open for y'all)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 25, 2011, 03:20:41 pm
Arizona is going to a flat tax.

The top 13% are thrilled, to say the least.

Senator Steve Court (R-Whore) has said that it's time to stop victimizing the rich.  "It's about fairness in how we tax."

No more deductions for mortgages, dependents, and donations, of course.

So.....I shouldn't move to AZ?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:25:10 pm
The fuck?

The base ignorance of humanity fills me with... something.

The people have spoken.  Apparently, they said "durrrrrrrr!"

Let's put it this way:

1.  The top 13% didn't vote in a teabagger majority all by themselves, and

2.  EVERYONE, I mean EVERYONE that I have - in person, at least - heard argue for the flat tax is in the BOTTOM 50%.  People are fucking retarded, and they're getting what they fucking deserve.  They SCREAMED for this shit, and now it's going to bite them right on their libertarian asses.  Good fucking riddance to bad rubbish...They can all be libertarian small-government business-friendly and all that other happy horseshit from UNDER A BRIDGE.

 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:26:17 pm
...because AZ needs to get itself out of the red...by taxing the poor...nice.

Quote of the year:  "People aren't going to evade taxes by choosing to make $24,000/year, anymore."
(Steve Court).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on March 25, 2011, 03:27:53 pm
They are so easily sold, because they are so easily set up.  It sorta breaks my heart.  And fills me with impotent rage at the same time.  And makes me afraid that there are so many ignorant jackoffs out there.

WHERE'S THAT WHISKEY DAMMIT?!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 25, 2011, 03:29:11 pm
Arizona is going to a flat tax.

The top 13% are thrilled, to say the least.

Senator Steve Court (R-Whore) has said that it's time to stop victimizing the rich.  "It's about fairness in how we tax."

No more deductions for mortgages, dependents, and donations, of course.

I'm curious, when this leaves AZ in even more financial ruin, what scapegoats will they latch onto?

My guess is the obvious one: "Dem illegal immigrants not payin' taxes!", but are there any other likely targets?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on March 25, 2011, 03:30:08 pm
Welfare moms.  AP testing.  Arts programs.  Soup kitchens.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 25, 2011, 03:30:51 pm
...because AZ needs to get itself out of the red...by taxing the poor...nice.

Quote of the year:  "People aren't going to evade taxes by choosing to make $24,000/year, anymore."
(Steve Court).

:spit:

I don't have enough Hate to do this justice.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 25, 2011, 03:31:01 pm
...because AZ needs to get itself out of the red...by taxing the poor...nice.

Quote of the year:  "People aren't going to evade taxes by choosing to make $24,000/year, anymore."
(Steve Court).

The doublefuck? :|
I fucking hate monkeys.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:34:00 pm
Welfare moms.  AP testing.  Arts programs.  Soup kitchens.

That's gonna be tough.

AP courses have been cut by 80%.  <--- Reason given:  They won't "teach the controversy."

Arts programs were cut 24 months ago.

Soup kitchens are now only run by charities.

Welfare moms, of course, will take it in the ass.  Just like always.  They've already cut all adult dental (to include emergency dental), and are now talking about "having communities care for the underprivileged" when it comes to food.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on March 25, 2011, 03:34:15 pm
Welfare moms.  AP testing.  Arts programs.  Soup kitchens.

I bet 2 out of 4 of those are already gone...possible 3.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on March 25, 2011, 03:34:43 pm
Welfare moms.  AP testing.  Arts programs.  Soup kitchens.

That's gonna be tough.

AP courses have been cut by 80%.  <--- Reason given:  They won't "teach the controversy."

Arts programs were cut 24 months ago.

Soup kitchens are now only run by charities.

Welfare moms, of course, will take it in the ass.  Just like always.  They've already cut all adult dental (to include emergency dental), and are now talking about "having communities care for the underprivileged" when it comes to food.

Whoops, you posted this while I was hitting "post"...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 25, 2011, 03:35:22 pm
Arizona is going to a flat tax.

The top 13% are thrilled, to say the least.

Senator Steve Court (R-Whore) has said that it's time to stop victimizing the rich.  "It's about fairness in how we tax."

No more deductions for mortgages, dependents, and donations, of course.

I'm curious, when this leaves AZ in even more financial ruin, what scapegoats will they latch onto?

My guess is the obvious one: "Dem illegal immigrants not payin' taxes!", but are there any other likely targets?

They've actually passed the "scapegoat" stage, and have moved on to "HAW HAW!  FUCK YOU, PEASANT!"

Polls show they will on average be reelected by 7 points.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 25, 2011, 04:50:32 pm
Every time I come to this thread, I feel sick. :(
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on April 08, 2011, 07:20:31 am
I feel you there, Freeky, with added amusement because the rest of the country will have had a chance to observe the results and yet we'll follow right along (I need to borrow a camera and dig up Rog's "This is why I wish humans would drown themselves" thread).

Anyway.

Arizona Votes to Allow Firearms on Campus (http://gawker.com/#!5790087/arizona-votes-to-allow-firearms-on-campus)

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Arizona Votes to Allow Firearms on CampusIn a landmark piece of legislation that once again demonstrates their profound capacity for out-of-the-rational-box thinking, the Arizona House of Representatives has voted to allow guns on campuses.

   
Quote
The Republican-led House voted 33 to 24 to allow firearms to be carried in the open or concealed in public rights of way, such as campus streets and roadways.

"We're allowing people to defend themselves," said Rep. David Gowan Sr., a Republican, who voted for the bill.

The measure now goes to the completely reasonable and not-at-all horrible Gov. Jon Brewer, who will decide whether or not to sign it into law. Good for you, Arizona! More guns on more students in more classrooms is the only way to deal with the senseless violence in your own backyard. Today, we all win.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 08, 2011, 08:31:52 am
Landmark my ass, Utah did that in 2004.  And why the hell *shouldn't* college students be allowed guns?  Last I checked age of ownership is 18, 21 for handguns.  It's not a University's administrator's job to say otherwise, especially when you consider that people *live* on campus.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on April 08, 2011, 01:46:27 pm
Yes, because an enviroment based around the exploration of social boundries, alcohol, drug experimentation, sex, and which is unhinged from normal societal game rules is totally a good place for handguns.




Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 08, 2011, 04:08:34 pm
The history of armed campuses in Utah (which goes back to before the U's gun ban, as well as after, as well as some other smaller colleges) suggests that there's no reason to expect issues above and beyond normal American gun violence.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on April 08, 2011, 04:17:09 pm
Yes, but Utah is an Abomination unto the eyes of the LORD.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2011, 06:09:35 pm
Yes, because an enviroment based around the exploration of social boundries, alcohol, drug experimentation, sex, and which is unhinged from normal societal game rules is totally a good place for handguns.

And?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on April 08, 2011, 07:01:39 pm
Yes, because an enviroment based around the exploration of social boundries, alcohol, drug experimentation, sex, and which is unhinged from normal societal game rules is totally a good place for handguns.

And?


Hmm.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that real-world principles don't apply very well in environments that don't exhibit real-world behaviors.  Or something.  I haven't thought this through all the way.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2011, 07:02:29 pm
Yes, because an enviroment based around the exploration of social boundries, alcohol, drug experimentation, sex, and which is unhinged from normal societal game rules is totally a good place for handguns.

And?


Hmm.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that real-world principles don't apply very well in environments that don't exhibit real-world behaviors.  Or something.  I haven't thought this through all the way.

Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on April 08, 2011, 07:06:56 pm
Yes, because an enviroment based around the exploration of social boundries, alcohol, drug experimentation, sex, and which is unhinged from normal societal game rules is totally a good place for handguns.

And?


Hmm.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that real-world principles don't apply very well in environments that don't exhibit real-world behaviors.  Or something.  I haven't thought this through all the way.

Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?

Actually...  Not really.

If many students are armed on campus, when one of 'em climbs the bell tower to rack up the body count, odds are one of the other students will be a decent shot and end things before records are set.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2011, 07:08:04 pm
Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?

Actually...  Not really.

If many students are armed on campus, when one of 'em climbs the bell tower to rack up the body count, odds are one of the other students will be a decent shot and end things before records are set.

And the non-good shots will form the world's biggest Polish firing squad.

I AM FOR THIS LEGISLATION.  SHIT YEAH.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 08, 2011, 07:22:05 pm
Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?

Actually...  Not really.

If many students are armed on campus, when one of 'em climbs the bell tower to rack up the body count, odds are one of the other students will be a decent shot and end things before records are set.

And the non-good shots will form the world's biggest Polish firing squad.

I AM FOR THIS LEGISLATION.  SHIT YEAH.

This is the correct shot-to-hell motorcycle!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2011, 07:23:41 pm
Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?

Actually...  Not really.

If many students are armed on campus, when one of 'em climbs the bell tower to rack up the body count, odds are one of the other students will be a decent shot and end things before records are set.

And the non-good shots will form the world's biggest Polish firing squad.

I AM FOR THIS LEGISLATION.  SHIT YEAH.

This is the correct shot-to-hell motorcycle!

I figure a car will backfire halfway through Rush week, on beer-bong night, and the resulting carnage will look like the battle of Antietem.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on April 08, 2011, 07:26:44 pm
Does it imply that more monkeys will get off my planet?

Actually...  Not really.

If many students are armed on campus, when one of 'em climbs the bell tower to rack up the body count, odds are one of the other students will be a decent shot and end things before records are set.

And the non-good shots will form the world's biggest Polish firing squad.

I AM FOR THIS LEGISLATION.  SHIT YEAH.

This is the correct shot-to-hell motorcycle!

I figure a car will backfire halfway through Rush week, on beer-bong night, and the resulting carnage will look like the battle of Antietem.

Quite likley.

Personally, I don't think the little fuckers should be trusted with anything more dangerous than rubber bands... but that's because I spend 8 hours a day on a campus.

I do not wish to be shot, thank you.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2011, 07:28:20 pm

Personally, I don't think the little fuckers should be trusted with anything more dangerous than rubber bands... but that's because I spend 8 hours a day on a campus.

I do not wish to be shot, thank you.

Talk to Richter about second chance vests and the art of always looking for nearby cover.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on April 15, 2011, 03:07:34 pm
Arizona bill requiring proof of US citizenship to get on ballot passes

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/15/arizona.president.bill/index.html?hpt=T2

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The Arizona Legislature approved a bill Thursday night that would require presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names could be placed on a state ballot.

The so-called "birther bill" got final approval by a vote of 40 to 16 in the state House, according to the website for the Arizona State Legislature.

The bill's author, Arizona State Rep. Carl Seel, a Republican, has repeatedly said the bill is not targeted at President Barack Obama.

"It's not about that," Seel said. "It's about future elections and maintaining the integrity of the Constitution."

The bill still needs to be signed by GOP Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

Seel's bill garnered headlines and a thumbs up from business mogul and possible presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has been hammering Obama over the "birther" issue of late.

Seel's bill interested Trump enough for the reality show star to agree to a meeting with the Arizona lawmaker.

So-called "birthers" remain skeptical that Obama was born in the United States even though claims to the contrary have been widely rejected.

because, you know..  there's no one else doing background checks on potential candidates..  right?

you guys sure do it differently out there in the desert.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 15, 2011, 03:14:30 pm
Arizona bill requiring proof of US citizenship to get on ballot passes

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/15/arizona.president.bill/index.html?hpt=T2

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The Arizona Legislature approved a bill Thursday night that would require presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names could be placed on a state ballot.

The so-called "birther bill" got final approval by a vote of 40 to 16 in the state House, according to the website for the Arizona State Legislature.

The bill's author, Arizona State Rep. Carl Seel, a Republican, has repeatedly said the bill is not targeted at President Barack Obama.

"It's not about that," Seel said. "It's about future elections and maintaining the integrity of the Constitution."

The bill still needs to be signed by GOP Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

Seel's bill garnered headlines and a thumbs up from business mogul and possible presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has been hammering Obama over the "birther" issue of late.

Seel's bill interested Trump enough for the reality show star to agree to a meeting with the Arizona lawmaker.

So-called "birthers" remain skeptical that Obama was born in the United States even though claims to the contrary have been widely rejected.

because, you know..  there's no one else doing background checks on potential candidates..  right?

you guys sure do it differently out there in the desert.


We're full of distilled crazy.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on April 19, 2011, 12:38:58 pm
Jan Brewer vetoes the bill..  hmm..  not sure I saw that coming.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/18/arizona.president.bill.veto/index.html?hpt=T1

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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill late Monday that would have required President Barack Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they were American citizens, born in the United States, before their names could have been placed on the state ballot.

The so-called "birther bill" got final approval in the state House last week. Now that Brewer, a Republican, has vetoed it, the bill will not become law unless legislators vote to override her veto.

"As a former Secretary of State, I do not support designating one person as a gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to arbitrary or politically-motivated decisions," the governor wrote in a letter addressed to the Arizona House speaker.

Under the measure, if there were any dispute about whether a candidate had proved he or she had been born in the United States, Arizona's secretary of state would have the final say.

"This measure creates significant new problems while failing to do anything constructive for Arizona," she added.

Obama has been hounded by allegations since he began running for president in 2008 that he was not born in America. Critics contend, among other things, that he was born in his father's home country of Kenya. The U.S. Constitution stipulates that only "natural born" citizens are eligible to be president.

Obama has insisted that he was born in Hawaii, and the allegations against him have been repeatedly discredited in investigations by CNN and other organizations. Nevertheless, the issue remains politically potent among segments of the electorate and has served as a rallying cry for many of the president's opponents, most recently potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.

William Bennett's take on Donald Trump

The author of the so-called "birther bill," Arizona State Rep. Carl Seel, has said the bill was not targeted at Obama, but at "maintaining the integrity of the Constitution."

Among other things, a candidate would have to show a copy of his or her birth certificate. If a birth certificate couldn't be produced, a candidate would have to show a combination of baptismal or circumcision records, hospital birth files, postpartum medical records or other documents. Candidates also would have to submit affidavits declaring their citizenship as well as sworn statements regarding their residency for the previous 14 years.

"I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their 'early baptismal or circumcision certificates' among other records to the Arizona Secretary of State. This is a bridge too far," wrote Brewer.

Fourteen other states are considering similar legislation this year, according to Jennie Bowser, a senior fellow with the National Conference of State Legislatures. Measures have failed in three states -- Connecticut, Maine and Montana.

In an effort to counter the charges of the birthers, Obama's 2008 campaign produced a "certification of live birth," a document traditionally accepted legally as confirmation of a birth.

Both the current Hawaii governor, Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat, and the previous governor, Linda Lingle, a Republican, have insisted that Obama was born in their home state.

Nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States, according to a March 11-13 CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe the president probably or definitely was not born in America.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on April 19, 2011, 01:03:10 pm
Was probably pointed out to her that it'd be a fast track to get the issue to the Supreme Court, who would slap it down, hard.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on April 19, 2011, 01:13:53 pm
Was probably pointed out to her that it'd be a fast track to get the issue to the Supreme Court, who would slap it down, hard.

The bit about providing records of circumcision in the event a birth certificate could not be provided made me laugh. 

"I'm sorry sir, that piece of paper isn't going to be enough.  We're going to need to see the original skin"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BabylonHoruv on April 19, 2011, 05:11:42 pm
Was probably pointed out to her that it'd be a fast track to get the issue to the Supreme Court, who would slap it down, hard.

Jan Brewer has generally struck me as not a complete lunatic, although I could be wrong.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on April 19, 2011, 05:18:59 pm
Was probably pointed out to her that it'd be a fast track to get the issue to the Supreme Court, who would slap it down, hard.

The bit about providing records of circumcision in the event a birth certificate could not be provided made me laugh. 

"I'm sorry sir, that piece of paper isn't going to be enough.  We're going to need to see the original skin"

Its a Zionist conspiracy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Disco Pickle on April 19, 2011, 05:24:48 pm
Was probably pointed out to her that it'd be a fast track to get the issue to the Supreme Court, who would slap it down, hard.

The bit about providing records of circumcision in the event a birth certificate could not be provided made me laugh. 

"I'm sorry sir, that piece of paper isn't going to be enough.  We're going to need to see the original skin"

Its a Zionist conspiracy.

another one?

 :lulz:

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on May 14, 2011, 04:24:47 am
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_d7d979d4-f4fb-5603-af76-0bef206f8301.html

Just going to leave that here for posterity.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2011, 09:57:41 pm
We haven't had more than an inch of rain, total, in 7 months.

Wildfires are everywhere, and where they're not, it's dry as tinder.

The obvious thing to do? 

DECIDE THAT INDIVIDUAL FIREWORKS/DISPLAYS ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED!

http://www.fox11az.com/news/New-Arizona-law-heightens-fire-fears-123507464.html

 :lulz::hammer::lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on June 09, 2011, 11:17:21 pm
:lulz: Oh, Arizona.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2011, 02:59:13 am
:lulz: Oh, Arizona.

I feel like Dian Fossey.

Dumbasses in the Mist Asphyxiating Smoke.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 10, 2011, 01:07:36 pm
Does that mean you're going to go nuts and eventually start killing people who pick on your wingnut objects of study?

Also, clearly fireworks are what the Founding Fathers meant when they talked about firearms.  Everyone always forgets the great Battle of Guy Fawkes (1777), where Washington nearly decapitated a British general with a well thrown Catherine Wheel.  Since then, the right to bear fireworks shall never be infringed.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2011, 03:21:21 pm
Does that mean you're going to go nuts and eventually start killing people who pick on your wingnut objects of study?

I thought so at first, but then I was all like, "Why limit myself?"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on June 10, 2011, 04:29:23 pm
:lulz: Oh, Arizona.

This needs to be a song.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2011, 04:46:31 pm
:lulz: Oh, Arizona.

This needs to be a song.

Sand, cement and filthy stucco towers
Someone called us Tucson
Those hungry homeless
Tracking down the straights
But where were all your shoulders when we cried
Where the darlings up in Phoenix
Dreaming up such horrible lies
To whisper in your ear before you die

It's party time for the guys in the town of Tucson
Sodom meet Gomorrah, Cain meet Abel
Have a ball y'all
See the letches crawl
With the call girls under the table
Watch them dig their graves
`Cause Jesus don't save the guys
In the town of Tucson

Watch them dig their graves
`Cause Jesus don't save the guys
In the town of Tucson...Oh, Tucson

Junkie angels, this corner's always stacked
The dealer's in the basement
Filling your prescription
For a brand new heart attack

But where were all your shoulders when we cried
Were the cops around the body
Saying how they felt so sick inside
Or was it just the beat reporter telling lies?

(To the tune of The Tower of Babel, by Elton John)


Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Adios on June 10, 2011, 04:48:59 pm
Damn.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2011, 04:51:38 pm
Damn.

If the horror in your pance fits, roll around in it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on June 10, 2011, 04:53:29 pm
Damn, Roger, there's poetry in your soul.

Twisted, dark, and... well, TUSCON... but it's poetry...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 10, 2011, 04:54:37 pm
Damn, Roger, there's poetry in your soul.

Twisted, dark, and... well, TUSCON... but it's poetry...

Technically speaking, there's poetry in an old Elton John song.   :lulz:

I just tinkered with it to make it fit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2011, 09:01:08 pm
Yeah.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/670eb9b140a54006a654c6ae49f8ea46/AZ--Missing-Meter-Money

Someone stole the cannisters off of the parking meters in downtown Tucson.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on June 27, 2011, 09:21:25 pm
:lulz:  Not surprising.  This is the type of economy where people will be stealing ATM machines and whatnot.  Some guy robbed a bank for A DOLLAR so he could get medical care.

God Bless America. :x
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 27, 2011, 09:26:54 pm
:lulz:  Not surprising.  This is the type of economy where people will be stealing ATM machines and whatnot.  Some guy robbed a bank for A DOLLAR so he could get medical care.

God Bless America. :x

92 cannisters equals about 350-400 pounds of coins.  So how the hell do you spend that?   :lulz:

I mean, the banks will be looking for someone to show up with a few thousand quarters.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on June 27, 2011, 09:44:21 pm
:lulz:  Not surprising.  This is the type of economy where people will be stealing ATM machines and whatnot.  Some guy robbed a bank for A DOLLAR so he could get medical care.

God Bless America. :x

92 cannisters equals about 350-400 pounds of coins.  So how the hell do you spend that?   :lulz:

I mean, the banks will be looking for someone to show up with a few thousand quarters.

Rollin rollin...keep those doggies rollin...I hate rolling coins.

But I guess they can just go to CoinStar with a sackfull here and there.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on June 27, 2011, 11:30:44 pm
:lulz:  Not surprising.  This is the type of economy where people will be stealing ATM machines and whatnot.  Some guy robbed a bank for A DOLLAR so he could get medical care.

God Bless America. :x

92 cannisters equals about 350-400 pounds of coins.  So how the hell do you spend that?   :lulz:

I mean, the banks will be looking for someone to show up with a few thousand quarters.

Rollin rollin...keep those doggies rollin...I hate rolling coins.

But I guess they can just go to CoinStar with a sackfull here and there.

CoinStar, onto an Amazon.com goft certificate.  I could bankroll my reading habit for YEARS...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 29, 2011, 04:12:04 am
"Your honor, can we be told when our client is going to get drugs?"

"HELL THE FUCK NO. GET OUT OF MY COURTROOM."


Quote
PHOENIX -- Lawyers for the suspect in the Tucson shooting rampage have provided the first official picture of their client's behavior behind bars, saying he threw a plastic chair against a wall of his prison cell on two occasions and spit on one of his attorneys.

The attorneys for Jared Lee Loughner also say that their client has been held in solitary confinement since his Jan. 8 arrest. His prison behavior was revealed in a request by his attorneys to prevent prison authorities from forcibly giving him anti-psychotic drugs.

Loughner has been at a federal prison facility in Springfield, Mo., where mental health experts will try to make him psychologically fit to stand trial. He arrived May 28 and will spend up to four months there. A judge has twice denied requests by Loughner's attorneys to be given notice before their client is drugged.

Defense attorneys said a prison administrative hearing on June 14 found Loughner was a danger to himself. They don't know whether prison officials have started giving him drugs.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/jared-lee-loughner-behavior-spit-on-attorney_n_885754.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on June 29, 2011, 05:03:50 pm
There's probably going to be very little sympathy for that dude's rights.  They just need to watch their asses so his case isn't thrown out on a technicality, they way they're going.  If appeals go through, etc., and it was shown his rights were violated before conviction, the prosecution's case could get fucked sideways.

Dumbasses.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2011, 05:09:44 pm
There's probably going to be very little sympathy for that dude's rights. 

That dude's brains are completely scrambled.  He needs to be in a psychiatric ward, not a prison.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on June 29, 2011, 05:11:47 pm
There's probably going to be very little sympathy for that dude's rights.

That dude's brains are completely scrambled.  He needs to be in a psychiatric ward, not a prison.

You saying the authorities and courts in AZ are gonna be all into that?  :lulz:

He'll only survive this whole thing if the feds try him at the outset and send him away to a nice, quiet federally-run loonybin.  But I uh...doubt it's gonna be as smooth as that.

What the guy needs ain't what the guy's likely gonna get.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2011, 05:15:40 pm
There's probably going to be very little sympathy for that dude's rights.

That dude's brains are completely scrambled.  He needs to be in a psychiatric ward, not a prison.

You saying the authorities and courts in AZ are gonna be all into that?  :lulz:

He'll only survive this whole thing if the feds try him at the outset and send him away to a nice, quiet federally-run loonybin.  But I uh...doubt it's gonna be as smooth as that.

What the guy needs ain't what the guy's likely gonna get.

Actually, most Arizonans are on board with the insanity thing...Because it was Giffords that got shot, and Arizonans have never forgiven her for beating Jesse Kelly.  At least the law & order tards.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 29, 2011, 05:18:57 pm
Actually, they probably will Jenne, eventually.

Although it's fairly obvious Loughner is psychotic, it's also true there are vested interests in portraying everyone who dares to attack a public official as being "insane".  Even if they have perfectly good reasons for wanting to knock a politician off.  In fact, the "insanity plea" was invented during the trial of the would-be assassin of Sir Robert Peel, the British Prime Minister, for this exact reason.

Can you imagine the ruling class of any country admitting their enemies may be sane and rational at any possible time?  I'm having a hard time with that train of thought.  Most Western politicians cannot admit terrorists or the leadership of Iran may be sane, so a would-be assassin who puts up videos of his gibberish on Youtube has no chance.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Jenne on June 29, 2011, 05:27:33 pm
I'm thinking that 1) AZ's citizens were actually NOT exactly dancing in the streets when this happened--and many of them took a step back and said--well, THAT AIN'T US!--though many of them probably turn a blind eye to or have a laissez faire attitude toward the extremist thoughts that are a benchmark of Tea Party rhetoric that the media picked up on and 2) yes, eventually, this guy's probably going to be treated...but they're not going to make it smooth and easy.  They're already withholding info from lawyers who are probably being compelled to defend him (I haven't looked this up, but that often happens in cases like his).

He's poor.  He's nuts.  And he's shot a member of Congress.

...his only saving grace is that she survived and didn't go completely braindead (I imagine there are SOME deficiencies, but by all reports, she's doing awesomely).

I'm just doubting anyone, other than his family, is going to lobby for extreme justice for HIS case...it's Gabby Gifford's tragedy that will be at the forefront.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 05:11:57 pm
:lulz: Oh, Arizona.

This needs to be a song.

Sand, cement and filthy stucco towers
Someone called us Tucson
Those hungry homeless
Tracking down the straights
But where were all your shoulders when we cried
Where the darlings up in Phoenix
Dreaming up such horrible lies
To whisper in your ear before you die

It's party time for the guys in the town of Tucson
Sodom meet Gomorrah, Cain meet Abel
Have a ball y'all
See the letches crawl
With the call girls under the table
Watch them dig their graves
`Cause Jesus don't save the guys
In the town of Tucson

Watch them dig their graves
`Cause Jesus don't save the guys
In the town of Tucson...Oh, Tucson

Junkie angels, this corner's always stacked
The dealer's in the basement
Filling your prescription
For a brand new heart attack

But where were all your shoulders when we cried
Were the cops around the body
Saying how they felt so sick inside
Or was it just the beat reporter telling lies?

(To the tune of The Tower of Babel, by Elton John)




Bump for use elsewhere.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2011, 05:42:15 pm
Hey, Dok, apparently a State Senator in Arizona shoved a loaded Ruger into a journalist's chest recently.  Details?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 05:58:06 pm
Hey, Dok, apparently a State Senator in Arizona shoved a loaded Ruger into a journalist's chest recently.  Details?

Lori Klein.
 
She's a fucking nutcase, and has done stuff like this before.  She pointed it at his (Richard Ruelas's) face, so he could see the aiming laser in action.  She then went on to gush about her experience as a gun safety advocate.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2011, 06:06:11 pm
Heh.  I'm sure he was thrilled.  Oh, that's right, she said her finger "wasn't on the trigger".  I mean, the safety was off, but it's not like guns ever go off by themselves, do they?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 06:08:32 pm
Heh.  I'm sure he was thrilled.  Oh, that's right, she said her finger "wasn't on the trigger".  I mean, the safety was off, but it's not like guns ever go off by themselves, do they?

Typically, they don't, really...But that's not how you bet the whole reckless endangerment & brandishing case.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 13, 2011, 06:34:22 pm
The gun was pink....   :|

Someone should have slapped for having a fucking PINK gun to begin with.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2011, 07:00:35 pm
(http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 13, 2011, 07:34:34 pm
I can't see it  :sad:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on July 13, 2011, 07:36:15 pm
It's a Hello Kitty M-16.  Or maybe an AK-47. I dunno, ask one of the military folks.  Either way, it's PINK. And [/I]HELLO KITTY[/i].
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 13, 2011, 07:42:13 pm
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 13, 2011, 07:48:29 pm
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"

Which Deadly Warrior has the Hello Kitty AR-15 in its arsenal, exactly?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on July 13, 2011, 07:50:30 pm
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"

Which Deadly Warrior has the Hello Kitty AR-15 in its arsenal, exactly?

The IRA, I think it was. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on July 13, 2011, 07:53:21 pm
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"

Which Deadly Warrior has the Hello Kitty AR-15 in its arsenal, exactly?

The IRA, I think it was. :lulz:

The IRA has pink Hello Kitty guns?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Phox on July 13, 2011, 08:09:56 pm
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"

Which Deadly Warrior has the Hello Kitty AR-15 in its arsenal, exactly?

The IRA, I think it was. :lulz:

The IRA has pink Hello Kitty guns?
Sign me up.

Phox,
Bog-trotting terrorist, for realz now.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: MMIX on July 13, 2011, 11:16:38 pm
Hey, Dok, apparently a State Senator in Arizona shoved a loaded Roger into a journalist's chest recently.  Details?

Scariest thing I've misread in a long time
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Phox on July 13, 2011, 11:17:48 pm
Hey, Dok, apparently a State Senator in Arizona shoved a loaded Roger into a journalist's chest recently.  Details?

Scariest thing I've misread in a long time

I read that the same way.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2011, 11:26:00 pm
Hey, Dok, apparently a State Senator in Arizona shoved a loaded Roger into a journalist's chest recently.  Details?

Scariest thing I've misread in a long time

I HAVE NO SAFETY!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: BadBeast on July 14, 2011, 01:33:08 am
AR-15 (of which the M-16 is a derivative, if Wikipedia is to be believed).


Cainad,
only vaguely remembers this from an episode of "Deadliest Warrior"

Which Deadly Warrior has the Hello Kitty AR-15 in its arsenal, exactly?

The IRA, I think it was. :lulz:

The IRA has pink Hello Kitty guns?


No but the Japs do!
(http://i.imgur.com/rh62K.jpg)
Part of their "DADT" program for Gay Samurais.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on August 03, 2011, 06:49:51 pm
Perhaps this has been known and noted:

http://www.salon.com/news/immigration/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/08/03/biggers_russell_pearce

"...a new examination of [Arizona's state Senate president] Russell Pearce's website and public statements reveals that the self-proclaimed architect of Arizona's "papers please" immigration law has regularly borrowed significant portions of text from the writings of hard-line white nationalists, fringe anti-immigrant activists, and others whose views far fall outside the mainstream and presented them as his own."

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 03, 2011, 06:56:33 pm
Perhaps this has been known and noted:

http://www.salon.com/news/immigration/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/08/03/biggers_russell_pearce

"...a new examination of [Arizona's state Senate president] Russell Pearce's website and public statements reveals that the self-proclaimed architect of Arizona's "papers please" immigration law has regularly borrowed significant portions of text from the writings of hard-line white nationalists, fringe anti-immigrant activists, and others whose views far fall outside the mainstream and presented them as his own."



Yeah.  Sheriff Arpeio's Nazi pals aren't too happy about it, either.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 03, 2011, 07:04:05 pm
Just goes to show that NOBODY like a plagiarist. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on August 03, 2011, 07:15:24 pm
damn. i just noticed that this thread has guns in it, and i haven't been paying attention.  :sad:

Personally i love the hello kitty AR...  but why does it have the non-pistol grip stock?  that's not necessary in AZ afaik...

also, i would like to point out that the gun control advocates have based their attacks on the emotional reaction to guns by pandering to the hoplophobe's aversion to the aesthetics of the 'mean' looking guns, e.g. the AWB that limited the gun to a set number of features that make it look nasty without having any real effect on their lethality.
so it's the so-called 'black guns' like the AR-15 that they go for.
but then when it started becoming popular to put some color on your guns by using products like Duracoat that can make your gun brightly colored (such as this pink one here), they attacked the guns for looking too innocent, arguing that they looked like toys, and might cause mayhem because they would be disregarded by possible victims or used by children who thought they were, in fact, toys.

So, it would seem that in order to avoid attack from the controllers, our guns should maintain some undefined level of 'threatening appearance'...
i find that humorous.  :)

regarding the current topic: fuck that guy...  but, why is arpeio torqued at him?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 10, 2011, 02:14:03 pm
damn. i just noticed that this thread has guns in it, and i haven't been paying attention.  :sad:

Personally i love the hello kitty AR...  but why does it have the non-pistol grip stock?  that's not necessary in AZ afaik...

also, i would like to point out that the gun control advocates have based their attacks on the emotional reaction to guns by pandering to the hoplophobe's aversion to the aesthetics of the 'mean' looking guns, e.g. the AWB that limited the gun to a set number of features that make it look nasty without having any real effect on their lethality.
so it's the so-called 'black guns' like the AR-15 that they go for.
but then when it started becoming popular to put some color on your guns by using products like Duracoat that can make your gun brightly colored (such as this pink one here), they attacked the guns for looking too innocent, arguing that they looked like toys, and might cause mayhem because they would be disregarded by possible victims or used by children who thought they were, in fact, toys.

So, it would seem that in order to avoid attack from the controllers, our guns should maintain some undefined level of 'threatening appearance'...
i find that humorous.  :)

regarding the current topic: fuck that guy...  but, why is arpeio torqued at him?

All of them at once, exactly the same argument I'm sure.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on August 10, 2011, 02:17:32 pm
 :?
i don't follow...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 10, 2011, 02:27:32 pm
:?
i don't follow...

It just seems like you're bypassing a whole argument (gun control) by making opponents arguments for them in the most stupid way possible

BUT

If I'm honest with myself I know you're probably just commenting on particular nuances of given arguments that are amusing or contradictory
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2011, 02:45:25 pm
:?
i don't follow...

It just seems like you're bypassing a whole argument (gun control) by making opponents arguments for them in the most stupid way possible

BUT

If I'm honest with myself I know you're probably just commenting on particular nuances of given arguments that are amusing or contradictory

I can't see any reasonable argument FOR gun control.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on August 10, 2011, 03:16:23 pm
It just seems like you're bypassing a whole argument (gun control) by making opponents arguments for them in the most stupid way possible

BUT

If I'm honest with myself I know you're probably just commenting on particular nuances of given arguments that are amusing or contradictory

Your honest assessment is the correct one.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 15, 2011, 12:47:00 pm
Whoops....

http://www.wwmt.com/articles/penis-1394452-chandler-shooting.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 15, 2011, 04:46:59 pm
Whoops....

http://www.wwmt.com/articles/penis-1394452-chandler-shooting.html

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 15, 2011, 04:52:32 pm
Chandler.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2011, 07:23:56 pm
I'll just leave this here:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/tucson-republican-leader-slams-county-gop-for-giffords-gun-raffle.php?ref=fpb
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 02, 2011, 11:20:00 pm
Oh, holy shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on September 20, 2011, 12:10:28 am
Hey, remember this asshole?

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2009/11/arpaio-feature-crop-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg)

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has apparently decided that it's an efficient, proper use of the State of Arizona's money to set the Cold Case Unit to a new job.

At the instigation of the Arizona Tea Party, he has assigned the unit to investigate...

Obama's birth certificate.

I shit you not.

Quote
"The Surprise Tea Party is concerned," they wrote, "that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries."

"Congress should be ashamed," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told the right-wing "news" site World Net Daily. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2011, 12:41:42 am
Hey, remember this asshole?

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2009/11/arpaio-feature-crop-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg)

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has apparently decided that it's an efficient, proper use of the State of Arizona's money to set the Cold Case Unit to a new job.

At the instigation of the Arizona Tea Party, he has assigned the unit to investigate...

Obama's birth certificate.

I shit you not.

Quote
"The Surprise Tea Party is concerned," they wrote, "that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries."

"Congress should be ashamed," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told the right-wing "news" site World Net Daily. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation."


This is why he keeps getting reelected, you know.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on September 20, 2011, 12:46:06 am
Hey, remember this asshole?

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2009/11/arpaio-feature-crop-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg)

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has apparently decided that it's an efficient, proper use of the State of Arizona's money to set the Cold Case Unit to a new job.

At the instigation of the Arizona Tea Party, he has assigned the unit to investigate...

Obama's birth certificate.

I shit you not.

Quote
"The Surprise Tea Party is concerned," they wrote, "that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries."

"Congress should be ashamed," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told the right-wing "news" site World Net Daily. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation."


This is why he keeps getting reelected, you know.   :lulz:

How DO you stand all that stupid?  Seriously?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2011, 12:46:38 am
Hey, remember this asshole?

(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2009/11/arpaio-feature-crop-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg)

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has apparently decided that it's an efficient, proper use of the State of Arizona's money to set the Cold Case Unit to a new job.

At the instigation of the Arizona Tea Party, he has assigned the unit to investigate...

Obama's birth certificate.

I shit you not.

Quote
"The Surprise Tea Party is concerned," they wrote, "that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries."

"Congress should be ashamed," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told the right-wing "news" site World Net Daily. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation."


This is why he keeps getting reelected, you know.   :lulz:

How DO you stand all that stupid?  Seriously?

Drugs.  Loads and loads of drugs.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on September 20, 2011, 01:29:48 pm
Hey, I heard somewhere that in Arizona you now have to pay a fee in order to visit someone in prison.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 20, 2011, 01:52:55 pm
Hey, I heard somewhere that in Arizona you now have to pay a fee in order to visit someone in prison.

Yep.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/09/12/20110912arizona-prison-visitors-fee-lawsuit.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 20, 2011, 02:38:44 pm
ugh. that's how prisons used to operate. There was a period of history when prisons were totally privately run. Not surprisingly, they were more concerned with profits than criminal justice. Prisoners had to pay for their own beds and food or they'd be forced to live in really hellish conditions. Usually the prisoner's family had to cover it. They'd also make your family pay an extra fee to release you--whether or not your sentence was up or not.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on September 21, 2011, 03:35:50 am
http://www.kpho.com/story/15500473/human-skeleton-for-sale



Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on December 02, 2011, 03:45:48 am
http://gawker.com/5863916/former-gop-sheriff-of-the-year-busted-in-gay-sex+for+meth-deal

Quote
Former GOP Sheriff of the Year Busted in Gay Sex-for-Meth Deal

Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. was the beloved Republican sheriff of Arapahoe County, Colo., for nearly 20 years before he retired in 2002. In 2001, he was named national Sheriff of the Year. Yesterday he was arrested by the department he used to run for offering a man meth in exchange for sex.

Happens to the best of them! The details sound suspiciously like another prominent Colorado Republican who had a secret gay meth-life: Ted Haggard. From the New York Times:

Quote
    Sheriff Robinson said the police had begun an investigation into Mr. Sullivan's activities on Nov. 17 after several individuals alerted the authorities that he might be involved with methamphetamines.

    The investigation led the police to a home on Tuesday where they say Mr. Sullivan agreed to provide drugs to a longtime, adult male associate, in exchange for sex. He was taken into custody without incident, Sheriff Robinson said.

    According to a probable cause statement filed in court on Wednesday morning, two confidential informants told police they had engaged in sexual activity with Mr. Sullivan before, in exchange for methamphetamines or cash.

It's not clear whether Sullivan's love of meth-sex may have predated his retirement. He was booked into that Arapahoe County Jail, which also goes by the name Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. Detention Facility.
:lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on December 02, 2011, 04:11:26 am
The desert ALWAYS makes the best crazies.  Always.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2012, 07:30:25 pm
Ah, Jan Brewer.  You stay classy!

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/jan-brewer-obama-6646359
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 26, 2012, 08:06:49 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/us/arizona-candidates-english-under-challenge.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

A judge is blocking Alejandrina Cabrera from being on the ballot based on her English skills. Apparently the law is that elected officials in Arizona need to be able to do their job without a translator. The judge called in a linguist, who determined that Alejandrina couldn't speak english well enough to do the job. The counter-argument is that the linguist had a thick Australian accent and Alejandrina couldn't understand him.

what do you guys think about this?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 27, 2012, 04:58:04 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/us/arizona-candidates-english-under-challenge.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

A judge is blocking Alejandrina Cabrera from being on the ballot based on her English skills. Apparently the law is that elected officials in Arizona need to be able to do their job without a translator. The judge called in a linguist, who determined that Alejandrina couldn't speak english well enough to do the job. The counter-argument is that the linguist had a thick Australian accent and Alejandrina couldn't understand him.

what do you guys think about this?

I think it's fucking ridiculous. The community she serves is bilingual, and that area has primarily spoken Spanish for hundreds of years. If her constituents don't primarily speak English, and in fact most of them understand Spanish, then the law requiring she not require a translator is absurd.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 27, 2012, 02:33:31 pm
I totally agree with you.

Devil's advocate question: what about the other people on the council -- if the council meetings are conducted in English, shouldn't she be able to speak/understand that language? No job that involves communication is going to hire you if you don't speak the lingua franca.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2012, 12:12:30 am
I totally agree with you.

Devil's advocate question: what about the other people on the council -- if the council meetings are conducted in English, shouldn't she be able to speak/understand that language? No job that involves communication is going to hire you if you don't speak the lingua franca.

First of all, if half or more of her constituents speak Spanish, and any of the other council members don't speak Spanish, there's a huge problem.

Second, that they wouldn't have a translator at council meetings where half the town speaks Spanish is absurd.

Third, Arizona's language laws are clearly designed to block its low-income Spanish-speaking population from representation, which is criminal and absolutely reprehensible.

How does Arizona deal with things like Deaf people running for office?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2012, 12:15:39 am
Oh shit, I just looked it up and the city is 90% Mexican-American and Spanish is the primary language there.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2012, 06:29:39 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/us/arizona-candidates-english-under-challenge.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

A judge is blocking Alejandrina Cabrera from being on the ballot based on her English skills. Apparently the law is that elected officials in Arizona need to be able to do their job without a translator. The judge called in a linguist, who determined that Alejandrina couldn't speak english well enough to do the job. The counter-argument is that the linguist had a thick Australian accent and Alejandrina couldn't understand him.

what do you guys think about this?

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Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2012, 04:08:26 am
If the law is that elected officials must be able to do their job without a translator, if the city is predominantly Spanish-speaking, then people who can't communicate fluently in Spanish should not be able to run for elected office.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2012, 06:29:10 am
If the law is that elected officials must be able to do their job without a translator, if the city is predominantly Spanish-speaking, then people who can't communicate fluently in Spanish should not be able to run for elected office.

You just don't get it, little lady.
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Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 29, 2012, 06:54:08 am
If the law is that elected officials must be able to do their job without a translator, if the city is predominantly Spanish-speaking, then people who can't communicate fluently in Spanish should not be able to run for elected office.

You just don't get it, little lady.
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 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Roly Poly Oly-Garch on January 30, 2012, 08:34:48 am
I totally agree with you.

Devil's advocate question: what about the other people on the council -- if the council meetings are conducted in English, shouldn't she be able to speak/understand that language? No job that involves communication is going to hire you if you don't speak the lingua franca.

If this is primarily a Spanish speaking town, it sounds like the meetings are only conducted in English as a condition of Arizona State Law. I don't see the council woman having much of a case beyond being able to demonstrate her English proficiency, but the law itself could be hit with a federal challenge if she could get enough of her constituents to say that *they* are being wronged by a law that is disrupting their right to equal representation. As it stands, for the reasons you stated above, I don't think she alone has much of a case.

...which doesn't make this any less bullshit, though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on January 30, 2012, 09:46:41 am
I'm going to raise the idea in Teabagger circles that all meetings should take place in Aramaic.  If it was good enough for Jesus...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cramulus on January 30, 2012, 03:52:47 pm
I totally agree with you.

Devil's advocate question: what about the other people on the council -- if the council meetings are conducted in English, shouldn't she be able to speak/understand that language? No job that involves communication is going to hire you if you don't speak the lingua franca.

First of all, if half or more of her constituents speak Spanish, and any of the other council members don't speak Spanish, there's a huge problem.

Second, that they wouldn't have a translator at council meetings where half the town speaks Spanish is absurd.

Third, Arizona's language laws are clearly designed to block its low-income Spanish-speaking population from representation, which is criminal and absolutely reprehensible.

How does Arizona deal with things like Deaf people running for office?

:mittens:

thank you for articulating that so well

I will now proceed to shoot those bullet points at people
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on January 30, 2012, 07:00:55 pm
Not political, but it is some serious asshattery in AZ:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Man-arrested-for-texting-naked-photo-of-girlfriends-daughter-135269093.html


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A man is in custody after allegedly texting a naked photo of his girlfriend's daughter to nearly 40 contacts in the girl's cellphone.

Foster found a photo the girl, who is a student at Poston Butte High School in San Tan Valley, had taken of herself, and decided to teach her a lesson by sending the photo to contacts in her phone.


What the fuck?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2012, 07:03:49 pm
Not political, but it is some serious asshattery in AZ:

Nothing is political in Arizona. 

Nothing.

It is all just horrible fucking stupidity, and it piles up around my door every night, like snow.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on January 30, 2012, 09:08:49 pm
Not political, but it is some serious asshattery in AZ:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Man-arrested-for-texting-naked-photo-of-girlfriends-daughter-135269093.html


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A man is in custody after allegedly texting a naked photo of his girlfriend's daughter to nearly 40 contacts in the girl's cellphone.

Foster found a photo the girl, who is a student at Poston Butte High School in San Tan Valley, had taken of herself, and decided to teach her a lesson by sending the photo to contacts in her phone.


What the fuck?

I don't even...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 30, 2012, 09:09:55 pm
jesus, wtf is wrong with that guy?
he intended to teach her a lesson for..... what, exactly?  tfa says he found a nude pic of her on her phone.  i guess it is implied that he thought that she was, or intended to, sext it?
sooooo to punish her, he.... sexts it?!
jesus christ, what an asshole.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2012, 09:12:56 pm
jesus, wtf is wrong with that guy?
he intended to teach her a lesson for..... what, exactly?  tfa says he found a nude pic of her on her phone.  i guess it is implied that he thought that she was, or intended to, sext it?
sooooo to punish her, he.... sexts it?!
jesus christ, what an asshole.

I am not usually a fan of disproportionate legal action, but in this case, I hope he enjoys his 5-10 and his lifetime subscription to the sex offender's list.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on January 30, 2012, 09:19:13 pm
jesus, wtf is wrong with that guy?
he intended to teach her a lesson for..... what, exactly?  tfa says he found a nude pic of her on her phone.  i guess it is implied that he thought that she was, or intended to, sext it?
sooooo to punish her, he.... sexts it?!
jesus christ, what an asshole.

I am not usually a fan of disproportionate legal action, but in this case, I hope he enjoys his 5-10 and his lifetime subscription to the sex offender's list.

In this case, that does not seem too terribly disproportionate.  He ruined that kid's life.

If someone did that to ME, he'd wish for something so mild.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 30, 2012, 09:23:26 pm
that might be overstating it a bit much, but i'm sure in her mind right now he ruined her life.
and he certainly did fuck up her highschool experience.  probably did some lasting mental damage, that's for sure.

perhaps the wrath of the angry intarwebs can generate a vengeful meme on this guy?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2012, 09:28:58 pm
that might be overstating it a bit much, but i'm sure in her mind right now he ruined her life.
and he certainly did fuck up her highschool experience.  probably did some lasting mental damage, that's for sure.

perhaps the wrath of the angry intarwebs can generate a vengeful meme on this guy?

No, I think prison will do nicely.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 30, 2012, 09:43:13 pm
certainly so.  but a bit of public humiliation as well would satisfy the tooth for tooth spin of things?
 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2012, 09:44:06 pm
certainly so.  but a bit of public humiliation as well would satisfy the tooth for tooth spin of things?

No, there's no satisfaction to be had here.  Just shove him in a hole and put the kid in counseling.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 30, 2012, 09:45:20 pm
the oubliette it is, then.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2012, 09:48:02 pm
the oubliette it is, then.

Yep.  While I am against prison for potheads and similarly harmless people, shitbags like this one deserve it entirely.

Assuming, of course, that he is found guilty of the accusation.1




1 Redacted for the new American century.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on January 30, 2012, 11:01:09 pm
the oubliette it is, then.

Yep.  While I am against prison for potheads and similarly harmless people, shitbags like this one deserve it entirely.

Assuming, of course, that he is found guilty of the accusation.1




1 Redacted for the new American century.

Yeah, there's the whole "proven guilty" thing.  If he is found guilty, toss him down the hole.

In for "distributing child pornography" may get him more than he deserves.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on January 31, 2012, 12:58:15 am
http://azdailysun.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/jail-inmate-arrested-for-trespassing-after-allegedly-refusing-to-leave/article_1f529c47-681f-50ed-b0d3-2f6eef436871.html
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A 44-year-old man was charged with trespassing at the county jail on Monday for refusing to leave his cell.

Martin Batieni Kombate, 44, was arrested last week in Flagstaff for trespassing and was set to be released on Monday under his own recognizance on the charge.

But when the detention officers from the Coconino County Sheriff's Office showed up to escort him out, Kombate allegedly said he wasn't leaving.

An officer from the Flagstaff Police Department was called over to speak to the man, according to a report. When the officer approached his cell, Kombate said he wouldn't go because he didn't know where his wallet was.
I heard this on the radio last week.  I lol'd. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on February 15, 2012, 02:33:57 am
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/ben-quayle-denies-writing-for.html

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After initially denying the allegations, Arizona House candidate Ben Quayle (R), son of former vice president Dan Quayle, admitted on Tuesday that he used to post comments on a Web site called "Dirty Scottsdale" several years ago, Politico reports.

:lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2012, 07:57:30 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on February 28, 2012, 08:11:16 pm
Wait, maybe I'm off my rocker, but haven't the Republicans recently been screeching at Obama for promoting class warfare? 

Only letting the rich kids get into college is kinda class warfare you stupid-ridden asshats!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2012, 08:12:58 pm
According to GOPlogic, trying to ensure every child can afford to go to college is "elitist".

Common sense?  This!  Is!  POLITICAL DEBATE!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on February 28, 2012, 08:13:13 pm
Well, according to Santorum, the belief that kids should be educated is "snobbish": http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-last-word/46550620/#46550620
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on February 28, 2012, 08:17:20 pm
We will march to American Exceptionalism with an army of Fry Cooks!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on February 28, 2012, 08:43:51 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammmit dammit dammit dammit dammit damiit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit etc.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2012, 08:51:51 pm
Education poll tax.  Even the Tories over here aren't feeling quite that bold.

Or they're just smarter.  Decades of debt = a better system of control than outright expelling people from the education system.  The latter tells people in no uncertain terms who their enemy is.  And another generation of Arizona's best and brightest will remember, when it comes to voting time.  All those old people in Phoenix aren't going to last forever, after all.  And there are more Latinos and students every year, on the other hand, who wont forget slights like ID checks or outrageous college fees.  Demographically, the GOP are killing themselves, even if it sucks in the immediate.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 28, 2012, 09:56:41 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

I would say it's unbelievable, we also have high schools that appear to be designed to fast-track kids to prison so that for-profit prison corporations can make money.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 28, 2012, 10:07:09 pm
Hey, an FYI: DO NOT go to Rep. Michelle Ugenti's website: Roger says it's virus-ridden and borked his computer.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on February 28, 2012, 10:08:10 pm
Hey, an FYI: DO NOT go to Rep. Michelle Ugenti's website: Roger says it's virus-ridden and borked his computer.

What the fuck?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2012, 10:11:30 pm
I think Rep Ugenti just got a life lesson from people whose Computer Science III class did not cost them $2000
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on February 28, 2012, 10:51:44 pm
Hey, an FYI: DO NOT go to Rep. Michelle Ugenti's website: Roger says it's virus-ridden and borked his computer.

That's not the HuffPo link, right?  Just the article linked to there?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2012, 10:54:56 pm
HuffPo link is safe.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 29, 2012, 01:52:41 am
I think Rep Ugenti just got a life lesson from people whose Computer Science III class did not cost them $2000

That's my guess.  The fucking thing sliced through our firewall like a hot knife through butter, and took Henry and two other people to contain, let alone eliminate.

My hat is off to whichever student did that shit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on February 29, 2012, 01:57:22 am
I think Rep Ugenti just got a life lesson from people whose Computer Science III class did not cost them $2000

That's my guess.  The fucking thing sliced through our firewall like a hot knife through butter, and took Henry and two other people to contain, let alone eliminate.

My hat is off to whichever student did that shit.

Shit fuck damn. Glad I didn't go to her page. My comp would have been toast.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on February 29, 2012, 08:05:41 am
I think Rep Ugenti just got a life lesson from people whose Computer Science III class did not cost them $2000

That's my guess.  The fucking thing sliced through our firewall like a hot knife through butter, and took Henry and two other people to contain, let alone eliminate.

My hat is off to whichever student did that shit.

Yeah.  Sucks to be on the receiving end, of course, but you can't make an omelette and all that...

Also, surprisingly relevant to what I said above (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2012/02/28/republicans-and-immigration/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=republicans-and-immigration):

Quote
Matt Steinglass is half-right when he says this:

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Republicans aren’t concocting grand strategies based on John Judis and Ruy Teixeira’s thesis that they face demographic doom, because they don’t believe that thesis. I think most Republicans actually don’t think that their hard-line anti-immigration stance ought to be costing them the Hispanic vote. As far as they’re concerned it’s the right policy, and Hispanics ought to be able to see that.

I agree that most Republicans don’t believe this thesis when it is presented to them. Many Republicans are scarcely aware of this argument in the first place, but they are far more likely to believe that America is and will continue to be a “center-right nation.” When asked to provide evidence for this view, they will probably invoke polling data on ideological self-identification, and if that isn’t enough they will point to the 2010 midterms. Many Republicans view the composition of the 2010 electorate as proof of the resilience of the Republican coalition after the aberrations of 2006 and 2008. 2012 will likely be a disillusioning election for them.

I think this can be said to be true for almost every facet of Republican thinking.  "It's RIGHT and you ought to be able to see that!"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on March 02, 2012, 07:33:34 am
Joe Arpaio is bringing Birtherism back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17229009

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The birth certificate of US President Barack Obama could well be a forgery, a high-profile Arizona sheriff has said.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County - who styles himself as America's toughest - unveiled the results of a probe into the origins of the document.

His investigators found "probable cause" the certificate may have been made by "forgery and fraud", he said.

Mr Arpaio, known for his tough stance on immigration, is being investigated over allegations of racial profiling.

The US justice department alleges that his office routinely discriminated against Latinos.

He also faces a federal grand jury investigation into the activities of his anti-corruption unit, and a forthcoming re-election bid in Maricopa County.
Tea Party request

Announcing the findings of his volunteer "Cold Case Posse", Mr Arpaio, 79, said analysis of an electronic copy of Mr Obama's birth certificate had revealed strong doubts about its authenticity.

"Based on all of the evidence presented and investigated I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic," Mr Arpaio said.

This is currently the top story on the BBC, as well, so I don't think this is going to go away.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Chairman Risus on March 02, 2012, 07:41:44 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

What's the reasoning behind passing something like this? Or are we reaching the point where politics becomes indistinguishable from comic book villainy?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 02, 2012, 04:08:00 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

What's the reasoning behind passing something like this? Or are we reaching the point where politics becomes indistinguishable from comic book villainy?

To keep the poor from getting an education.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 02, 2012, 09:12:55 pm
An uneducated population with constant access to unchallenging entertainment that exalts being a useless attention whore is easier to control. Yes we are living in a dystopian future novel. I mean action movie. Novels are too intellectually stimulating.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on March 02, 2012, 09:32:23 pm
The official reasoning is that, apparently, over 50% of all Arizonan students paid no college bills at all.

Naturally, this statistic was bullshit, but the idea of anyone getting anything for free sent the GOP's faithful flying monkeys into spasms of rage.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 02, 2012, 09:41:45 pm
Mmmm made up statistics. The best kind.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on March 02, 2012, 10:05:58 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.
Did they just accidentally their college football teams?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 02, 2012, 10:22:47 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.
Did they just accidentally their college football teams?

I imagine that exceptions will be made.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 02, 2012, 10:53:19 pm
Sports player earned it by playing for their team as opposed to people who earned it for getting good grades or whatever.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: AFK on March 04, 2012, 05:14:07 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html)

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.
Did they just accidentally their college football teams?

I imagine that exceptions will be made.

Unless they are baseball players. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 14, 2012, 03:39:25 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

Quote
An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/02/27/432837/arizona-state-rep-university-students/?mobile=nc

Followup.

I'm glad I was already thinking of going to an out-of-state college and taking monkey to a less psychotic area to get schooling.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 14, 2012, 04:05:31 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/02/27/432837/arizona-state-rep-university-students/?mobile=nc

Followup.

I'm glad I was already thinking of going to an out-of-state college and taking monkey to a less psychotic area to get schooling.

Come to the PNW. We have so much water it falls from the sky.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2012, 04:28:26 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html

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An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition.

As Think Progress noted, nearly 100 Arizona students attended the committee hearing to speak out against the bill, HB 2675, expressing concern that it would make it more difficult for many students to afford college. Rep. Michelle Ugenti (R-Scottsdale) responded bluntly in favor of the new measure: "Welcome to life."

This doesn't just mean subsidies would be hit.  It also means that kids with full-ride scholarships would have to pay $2000 of their own money on top of the full tuition granted by the scholarship.

It does not raise the tuition itself, for people who are self-paying, with the exception that it would increase the minimum cost/semester to $2000.

We have the first outright "poor tax" in America.   :lulz:

The goal, obviously, is to prevent poor people from getting an education.

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/02/27/432837/arizona-state-rep-university-students/?mobile=nc

Followup.

I'm glad I was already thinking of going to an out-of-state college and taking monkey to a less psychotic area to get schooling.

Come to the PNW. We have so much water it falls from the sky.

100% truth.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 14, 2012, 04:30:18 am
But I've heard that, especially around the bridges, a lot of dihydrogen monoxide inhalation occurences happen. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 14, 2012, 04:34:25 am
But I've heard that, especially around the bridges, a lot of dihydrogen monoxide inhalation occurences happen.

We also have monsters that breath it up here.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 14, 2012, 04:37:56 am
But I've heard that, especially around the bridges, a lot of dihydrogen monoxide inhalation occurences happen.

We also have monsters that breath it up here.

True story.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 14, 2012, 04:42:08 am
But I've heard that, especially around the bridges, a lot of dihydrogen monoxide inhalation occurences happen.

We also have monsters that breath it up here.

True story.

NO WAY.  DISBELIEVE!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 14, 2012, 04:45:53 am
But I've heard that, especially around the bridges, a lot of dihydrogen monoxide inhalation occurences happen.

We also have monsters that breath it up here.

True story.

NO WAY.  DISBELIEVE!

We have so much of it, we just dump the excess into the ocean.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 14, 2012, 04:47:20 am
:crankey: SO YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OCEANSIDE DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE POISONING!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 14, 2012, 04:49:19 am
:crankey: SO YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OCEANSIDE DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE POISONING!

Not me. I have nothing to with our dihi redistribution and waste management program.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on March 14, 2012, 01:39:42 pm
We too have water that fall into the sky and monsters that breathe it. Theyre considered a common part of the diet. Even the water scorpions. But in our language they are called lobstah.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Phox on March 14, 2012, 02:17:40 pm
We too have water that fall into the sky and monsters that breathe it. Theyre considered a common part of the diet. Even the water scorpions. But in our language they are called lobstah.
Lawbstah?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 14, 2012, 09:32:06 pm
Its pretty much a relief that this bill doesn't apply to community colleges, just (so far) the big three state colleges.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 14, 2012, 10:58:49 pm
What I want to know is if it also applies to vets. If it does, that is another possible line of attack against it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 15, 2012, 01:37:01 am
I can't fucking read the stupid thing, its too hard to find. :argh!: 

As far as I know, it's for everybody.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 15, 2012, 01:42:53 am
Athletes and academic scholars are exempt, I guess.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2012, 10:28:03 pm
What I want to know is if it also applies to vets. If it does, that is another possible line of attack against it.
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An amendent, introduced by Rep. Matt Heinz, D-Tucson, exempting honorably discharged and active duty service members failed.

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“I’m a veteran and I don’t think I should get free university tuition,” Kavanagh [One of the prime sponsors of HB 2675 Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills] said. “Some veterans are extremely wealthy adults.”

Kavanagh is the guy who proposed the bill based on two year old data, during a year where 48% of students didn't have to pay tuition.

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Campbell said students should have every available tool to succeed and HB 2675 is a tuition increase that would deter many students from pursuing a higher education.

“We have one of the lowest rates of financial aid in the country,” he said. “According to our state constitution, we should be providing a free, or as free as possible education. What problem are we trying to solve with this?”

Kavanagh said he would “bend over backwards” to make education affordable, but believed students should contribute to their education.

“We do not believe university education should be totally free,” he said.

ETA: link to article http://www.statepress.com/2012/02/22/hb-2675-passes-committee-despite-strong-opposition/?utm_source=BlogGlue_network&utm_medium=BlogGlue_Plugin
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2012, 10:34:19 pm
I keep hearing about it got pulled and then I can't find anywhere that says so. :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 19, 2012, 10:37:58 pm
Well shitfuckdamn.
Someone should maybe share this with some people.

What kind of shit is that? How does "some vets are extremely wealthy" equate to "lets force all vets to pay 2 grand for their college when their federally granted gi bill states it will cover all tuition at public universities"

I didn't do 4 fucking years just have some pencil dick decide that I need to spend 2 grand a year to "contribute to my education".
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on March 19, 2012, 10:40:08 pm
You should have spent more time fighting for your country in the boardroom of Goldman Sachs.  They pay for everything.  Even sex changes.  I bet they'd pay for your college out of the petty cash tin.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 19, 2012, 10:41:40 pm
You should have spent more time fighting for your country in the boardroom of Goldman Sachs.  They pay for everything.  Even sex changes.  I bet they'd pay for your college out of the petty cash tin.

And one day I could hope to be rich like them.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2012, 11:03:18 pm
Well shitfuckdamn.
Someone should maybe share this with some people.

What kind of shit is that? How does "some vets are extremely wealthy" equate to "lets force all vets to pay 2 grand for their college when their federally granted gi bill states it will cover all tuition at public universities"

I didn't do 4 fucking years just have some pencil dick decide that I need to spend 2 grand a year to "contribute to my education".

I did read a little blurb on one of the articles that one of the people in K-guy's office told them that he was probably going to withdraw it, because an aide in some other department said it wouldn't leave the rules committee or something.

Even if it pans out to be not true, you're pretty much golden unless you wanted to go to schol in Arizona.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on March 19, 2012, 11:04:48 pm
Well shitfuckdamn.
Someone should maybe share this with some people.

What kind of shit is that? How does "some vets are extremely wealthy" equate to "lets force all vets to pay 2 grand for their college when their federally granted gi bill states it will cover all tuition at public universities"

I didn't do 4 fucking years just have some pencil dick decide that I need to spend 2 grand a year to "contribute to my education".

I did read a little blurb on one of the articles that one of the people in K-guy's office told them that he was probably going to withdraw it, because an aide in some other department said it wouldn't leave the rules committee or something.

Even if it pans out to be not true, you're pretty much golden unless you wanted to go to schol in Arizona.

Well I'm not, but still I feel it acceptable to get pissed off over what some rich piece of shit wants to do to my people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 19, 2012, 11:15:36 pm
It's totally acceptable.

God damn.  I know that this is politics everywhere now, but seriously, (most of) Arizona's seats of power are held by insane people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 19, 2012, 11:36:57 pm


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“I’m a veteran and I don’t think I should get free university tuition,” Kavanagh [One of the prime sponsors of HB 2675 Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills] said. “Some veterans are extremely wealthy adults.”


SUPPORT TEH TROOPS!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2012, 12:05:32 am


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“I’m a veteran and I don’t think I should get free university tuition,” Kavanagh [One of the prime sponsors of HB 2675 Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills] said. “Some veterans are extremely wealthy adults.”


SUPPORT TEH TROOPS!

:retard:  That was just pure FUCK YOUery.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2012, 12:09:16 am


Quote
“I’m a veteran and I don’t think I should get free university tuition,” Kavanagh [One of the prime sponsors of HB 2675 Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills] said. “Some veterans are extremely wealthy adults.”


SUPPORT TEH TROOPS!

:retard:  That was just pure FUCK YOUery.

http://www.statepress.com/2012/03/01/legislator-withdraws-controversial-tuition-bill/
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2012, 12:13:09 am
Ah, excellent.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2012, 12:19:49 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/arizona-birth-control-bill-contraception-medical-reasons_n_1344557.html

WOW!

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Under current law, health plans in Arizona that cover other prescription medications must also cover contraception. House Bill 2625, which the state House of Representatives passed earlier this month and the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed on Monday, repeals that law and allows any employer to refuse to cover contraception that will be used "for contraceptive, abortifacient, abortion or sterilization purposes." If a woman wants the cost of her contraception covered, she has to "submit a claim" to her employer providing evidence of a medical condition, such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome, that can be treated with birth control.

Moreover, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the law would give Arizona employers the green light to fire a woman upon finding out that she took birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

"The bill goes beyond guaranteeing a person's rights to express and practice their faith," Anjali Abraham, a lobbyist for the ACLU, told the Senate panel, "and instead lets employers prioritize their beliefs over the beliefs, the interests, the needs of their employees, in this case, particularly, female employees."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on March 20, 2012, 12:28:30 am
I don't even know what to do with your state, Dok. Seriously. Also, please note I'll be shipping any and all AZ refugees I find back to you, lest the contaminate my state.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2012, 12:31:29 am
I don't even know what to do with your state, Dok. Seriously. Also, please note I'll be shipping any and all AZ refugees I find back to you, lest the contaminate my state.

Can't say as I blame ya.   :lulz:

It's so fucking weird.  You come to Tucson, everyone's sort of liberal, they believe in rights and a safety net...But go up to Glendale or Scottsdale (or anywhere in the Phoenix/Scared Old White People) zone, and it's back to 1600CE.  I really can't explain it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2012, 12:37:33 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/arizona-birth-control-bill-contraception-medical-reasons_n_1344557.html

WOW!

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Under current law, health plans in Arizona that cover other prescription medications must also cover contraception. House Bill 2625, which the state House of Representatives passed earlier this month and the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed on Monday, repeals that law and allows any employer to refuse to cover contraception that will be used "for contraceptive, abortifacient, abortion or sterilization purposes." If a woman wants the cost of her contraception covered, she has to "submit a claim" to her employer providing evidence of a medical condition, such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome, that can be treated with birth control.

Moreover, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the law would give Arizona employers the green light to fire a woman upon finding out that she took birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

"The bill goes beyond guaranteeing a person's rights to express and practice their faith," Anjali Abraham, a lobbyist for the ACLU, told the Senate panel, "and instead lets employers prioritize their beliefs over the beliefs, the interests, the needs of their employees, in this case, particularly, female employees."

Arizona just can't stop trying to top themselves.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on March 20, 2012, 12:38:31 am

Arizona just can't stop trying to top themselves.

We are a 6,482,505 person self-parody.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 20, 2012, 12:48:14 am

Arizona just can't stop trying to top themselves.

We are a 6,482,505 person self-parody.

 :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on March 20, 2012, 01:57:08 am
Quote
Moreover, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the law would give Arizona employers the green light to fire a woman upon finding out that she took birth control for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

What's REALLY, REEALLY fucked up about this is that there was language in the original bill that didn't allow employers to discriminate against employees who found coverage for contraceptives elsewhere, but it got taken out.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LizKing531 on April 04, 2012, 02:52:22 pm
The sooner this thing goes critical, the better.

I suggest starting rumours that illegals are working at army bases and have been implicated in theft of military equipement, and see if the teabaggers are stupid enough to take the bait and protest a military base with their usual finesse and style (ie incoherent ranting, often while holding weapons).

I know I'm late to the party on this thread - but this is sheer brilliance -  why isnt this a thread or entire organization of its own?   hmm.....   8)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Don Coyote on April 04, 2012, 03:28:15 pm
The sooner this thing goes critical, the better.

I suggest starting rumours that illegals are working at army bases and have been implicated in theft of military equipement, and see if the teabaggers are stupid enough to take the bait and protest a military base with their usual finesse and style (ie incoherent ranting, often while holding weapons).

I know I'm late to the party on this thread - but this is sheer brilliance -  why isnt this a thread or entire organization of its own?   hmm.....   8)

How did I not see this two years ago?
Someone better not point out all the smudgy people in the Army that aren't US citizens to those yahoos.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on April 04, 2012, 08:33:10 pm
Ok, seriously. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR STATE, DOK?

From here[/ (http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/04/01/arizona-legislators-trying-to-declare-pregnancy-two-weeks-prior-to-conception?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20rhrealitycheck%20%28RHRealityCheck.org%29&utm_content=Google%20Reader)
Quote from: Arizona Lawmakers Trying To Legislate Pregnancy Two Weeks Prior To Conception
Medically speaking, pregnancy starts when a fertilized egg implants in the uterine lining. Anti-choicers have attempted to shift the goalposts of pregnancy with their failed attempts to pass “personhood” laws conferring the full rights of a living, breathing person on a fertilized egg.

Arizona and other states with 20-week bans are trying to argue that you’re pregnant a couple of weeks before you even had the sex that resulted in your pregnancy.

Think about the implications down the road. If a woman is “pregnant” two weeks before she becomes pregnant, than any fertile woman---including those currently menstruating!---should really be considered pregnant. After all, we don’t know the future. We don’t know that any non-pregnant woman couldn’t be pregnant two weeks from now, making her retroactively pregnant now. Considering that it’s anti-choice nuts we’re talking about, it’s safe to assume that they’d simply prefer a situation where all women of reproductive age are considered to be pregnant, on the grounds that they could be two weeks from now. Better safe than sorry, especially if that mentality means you get to exert maximum control over the bodies of women of reproductive age.

Between personhood bills and the assault on access to contraception, it’s becoming increasingly clear that anti-choicers aren’t satisfied with simply trying to control the already-pregnant. Finding ways to define the not-pregnant as pregnant is a means of laying the groundwork for exerting this control. Imagine if Roe is overturned and states go into a true frenzy of stripping every imaginable right away from pregnant women. It wouldn’t be limited to stripping the right to abortion, but also to any kind of behavior deemed “abortive,” including holding certain kinds of jobs, eating certain foods, or taking certain medications. With this bill, then, you could not only restrict the rights of those who are actually pregnant, but extend the restrictions to all women of reproductive age on the grounds that they “could be pregnant in two weeks, i.e. in perpetuity” and would therefore be considered the same thing as being pregnant.

Already in some states, they’re looking for ways to prosecute women who have stillbirths if they did something the prosecutor believes may have had an impact on the pregnancy, such as drug use. With the hoped-for overturn of Roe, we can expect these efforts to intensify, with prosecutions of miscarriages. Now with this Arizona bill, if a woman is deemed pregnant two weeks before she actually is, prosecutors could even have a chance to look at your choices when you weren’t even pregnant---before you even had the sex that made you pregnant---and blame those choices for bad outcomes. They’re creating, brick by brick, the legal basis on which to prosecute a woman who drinks some alcohol, becomes pregnant two weeks later, and miscarries, even though she didn’t drink while pregnant. And you best believe that when feminists protest this, they’ll just paint it as if we’re more interested in protecting drunken sluts than “babies.”

If you can [legally] be “pregnant” without being pregnant, that also creates legal complications around simple menstruation. After all, menstruation is usually seen as the opposite of being pregnant; women use menstruation to mark that they aren’t pregnant. But under this bill, you could both be menstruating and “pregnant” by law. Should Roe be overturned and the state start looking to prosecute women for miscarriages they deem inappropriately prevented, what about women who are just getting their period? They’re “pregnant” under the pregnant-prior-to-conception framework, aren’t they? Are they miscarrying in the eyes of the law or are they just continuing their theoretical pregnancy? These kinds of ambiguities are exactly the sort of thing zealous misogynist law enforcement will be looking to exploit.
WTFIDE
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:34:52 pm
We're not right.  In the head.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on April 04, 2012, 08:36:03 pm
I've noticed. Good fucking god.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:38:04 pm
I've noticed. Good fucking god.

Hmmm.   Desert terrain, women aren't considered people, all laws are vetted for compliance with religion, etc, etc.

Somehow, this is all sounding very familiar.

But the thing is, it's a bunch of butthurt CC RWNs, who are trying to get their licks in while they can, and also to see just how far they can push it.

We'll have to eat them, one fine day.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2012, 08:41:09 pm
However, on the plus side, you can declare yourself dead two weeks early, for tax purposes.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 04, 2012, 08:42:13 pm
However, on the plus side, you can declare yourself dead two weeks early, for tax purposes.

 :lulz:

Douglas Adams was a prophet.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:43:18 am
The sooner this thing goes critical, the better.

I suggest starting rumours that illegals are working at army bases and have been implicated in theft of military equipement, and see if the teabaggers are stupid enough to take the bait and protest a military base with their usual finesse and style (ie incoherent ranting, often while holding weapons).

I know I'm late to the party on this thread - but this is sheer brilliance -  why isnt this a thread or entire organization of its own?   hmm.....   8)

How did I not see this two years ago?
Someone better not point out all the smudgy people in the Army that aren't US citizens to those yahoos.

No shit. There are a fuckton of people in the U.S. military who are immigrants. A lot of them are way bigger fans of the U.S.A than natural-born citizens.

Oooh, wonder if we could prod the Tea Party to try to ban non-natural-born citizens from military service? Because (unless things have changed) that is still a legitimate avenue of gaining citizenship.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:49:50 am
At some point, the logical extension of all this is that all non-menopausal women will be considered "pre-pregnant", and our every move will be scrutinizable for actions that could jeopardize the unborn, requiring us to be put under the care of a warden.

A male warden, of course.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 07:22:44 am
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 07:24:09 am
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?

I would say Portland, but honestly Seattle seems a bit better as Washington State seems to be more progressive overall.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 07:48:46 am
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?

I would say Portland, but honestly Seattle seems a bit better as Washington State seems to be more progressive overall.

Hm.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:42:30 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:52:32 pm
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?

I would say Portland, but honestly Seattle seems a bit better as Washington State seems to be more progressive overall.

Hm.

Or, you could live in "The Other Vancouver", which Seattlites sometimes refer to as the San Diego of Washington State (I am not overlooking the fact that this makes Portland Tijuana) and have the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 05:52:59 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

Because in Arizona, no restriction of rights is too far!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 05:54:53 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

Because in Arizona, no restriction of rights is too far!

Well, rights are for men.  Says so in the bible.  Somewhere.  And not in that damned liberal Apocrypha, neither.

And not just any man.  Just quality people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2012, 06:03:19 pm
White, in other words*






*Commies and faggots need not apply.

Also, America is now living proof of Corey Robin's thesis.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on April 05, 2012, 06:03:43 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

Except when they're on their period.

Imagine, a city where women are on five-day binge-drinking benders while menstruating.

It would be a glorious sight, no?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:07:18 pm
White, in other words*






*Commies and faggots need not apply.

Also, America is now living proof of Corey Robin's thesis.

White, with money, and you only beat your family in the privacy of your own home.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:08:09 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

Except when they're on their period.

Imagine, a city where women are on five-day binge-drinking benders while menstruating.

It would be a glorious sight, no?

Gives a whole new meaning to "ladies' night".  I am up for this program.

Dok,
Silly grin at no additional cost.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 05, 2012, 06:13:41 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

Except when they're on their period.

Imagine, a city where women are on five-day binge-drinking benders while menstruating.

It would be a glorious sight, no?

 :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:

GO ARIZONA!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 06:39:08 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

So they're going to raise the drinking age for women to 55, "just to be safe".

How the FUCK do these ugly motherfuckers expect to get laid?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 06:41:28 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

So they're going to raise the drinking age for women to 55, "just to be safe".

How the FUCK do these ugly motherfuckers expect to get laid?

You have to understand that they're all either old men or bizarre female religious freaks that are only outside of the home until they can put things right, Phyllis Scafly style.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 05, 2012, 06:57:21 pm
The great thing about that bill is that it would force women to behave at all times as if they were pregnant.

So no drinking, ladies.  Because you can never tell, right?

So they're going to raise the drinking age for women to 55, "just to be safe".

How the FUCK do these ugly motherfuckers expect to get laid?

You have to understand that they're all either old men or bizarre female religious freaks that are only outside of the home until they can put things right, Phyllis Scafly style.

That actually explains EVERYTHING.  :eek:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on April 05, 2012, 07:43:54 pm
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that enough people that think like this exist that these sorts of bills actually get serious consideration and the ability to pass. Sure, a lot of *those* people may be in power, but someone put them there and there seem to be enough "ordinary" yahoos screaming their support. Maybe, like the "small town" thing, it's just a product of my environment, seeing as how this area tends to be fairly "socially liberal".

I mean, growing up Catholic, my parents were all "no sex before marriage". Then I went on birth control for semi-medical reasons, then they found out *it* happened and yea, not happy, but that's what's going to happen and it wasn't the end of the world. I'm sure they'd rather see me and my sister using contraception rather than either of us ending up with a child we can't properly support. And since it's not exactly "dinner conversation" the best I can sum up their feelings on abortion is that they tend to be against it, but aren't going to be cheering on anyone blowing up a Planned Parenthood clinic either. (yea that's pretty vague but what can I say, not something we talk about).

My point being is that my parents, and many others in their generation that I've interacted with - while they may *prefer* if things were a certain way and everything was wrapped in a neat little package, they seem to at least acknowledge the realty of how things work or what might happen. I can't SEE them supporting a NO CONTRACEPTION FOR ANYONE EVER, DEATH TO BABY KILLERS and NO RIGHTS FOR YOU, WOMEN. And maybe that's what's scary. It's one thing to see the obvious religious nutjob on the streets of Boston holding his placards and handing out "you're all going to Hell" pamphets. But not ALL these people can look like obvious nutjobs, so what's hidden in the minds of people I generally think of as "normal" or "sane"
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 07:55:27 pm
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that enough people that think like this exist that these sorts of bills actually get serious consideration and the ability to pass.

You have to remember that Arizona is a state where scared White bible-thumpers go to die.

Like Florida.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 08:02:29 pm
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that enough people that think like this exist that these sorts of bills actually get serious consideration and the ability to pass.

You have to remember that Arizona is a state where scared White bible-thumpers go to die.

Like Florida.

Very much like.  The biggest concentration of scared white Bible thumpers is the greater Phoenix area, which covers all the cities that Phoenix ate.  This is where Sherriff Arpaio lives, this is where Gov Brewer is, this is where our politicians convene, so it stands to reason that Our politicians are going to be people that the scared white Bible thumpers think will be appropriate, for the most part.  If they aren't, such as Gabby Giffords wasn't, well, reality finds a way.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 08:05:37 pm
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that enough people that think like this exist that these sorts of bills actually get serious consideration and the ability to pass.

You have to remember that Arizona is a state where scared White bible-thumpers go to die.

Like Florida.

Very much like.  The biggest concentration of scared white Bible thumpers is the greater Phoenix area, which covers all the cities that Phoenix ate.  This is where Sherriff Arpaio lives, this is where Gov Brewer is, this is where our politicians convene, so it stands to reason that Our politicians are going to be people that the scared white Bible thumpers think will be appropriate, for the most part.  If they aren't, such as Gabby Giffords wasn't, well, reality finds a way.

They also have 80% of the vote, so we have to go to Crazytown with them.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2012, 08:06:44 pm
The GOP is convening in Florida this year.

I'm guessing all the possible venues in Arizona were already booked (and Florida has more hookers).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 08:09:09 pm
I just have such a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that enough people that think like this exist that these sorts of bills actually get serious consideration and the ability to pass.

You have to remember that Arizona is a state where scared White bible-thumpers go to die.

Like Florida.

Very much like.  The biggest concentration of scared white Bible thumpers is the greater Phoenix area, which covers all the cities that Phoenix ate.  This is where Sherriff Arpaio lives, this is where Gov Brewer is, this is where our politicians convene, so it stands to reason that Our politicians are going to be people that the scared white Bible thumpers think will be appropriate, for the most part.  If they aren't, such as Gabby Giffords wasn't, well, reality finds a way.

They also have 80% of the vote, so we have to go to Crazytown with them.

Yeah.  I forgot to imply that in my post. 

But, there is a little bit of a brighter side, which is that I don't think as large a percentage of SWBT down here.  It just doesn't have that vibe.  It's more for the hell raisers and freaks.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 08:09:56 pm
The GOP is convening in Florida this year.

I'm guessing all the possible venues in Arizona were already booked (and Florida has more hookers).

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 08:23:07 pm
The GOP is convening in Florida this year.

I'm guessing all the possible venues in Arizona were already booked (and Florida has more hookers).

We're also a bigger embarrassment for the GOP.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on April 05, 2012, 09:04:52 pm
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?
I'm pretty sure you could move anywhere in California and have this be side-eyed. Anywhere except possibly supremacist strongholds like Wonder Valley (but there's nothing in WV except horses and trees that look like the Virgin Mary, so there's no reason to move there).
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 05, 2012, 09:06:37 pm
It seems like just about every week something crops up that makes me sorely tempted to make a break for it, no matter what consequences my God City will heap upon me, and that heap will be at least a medium sized foothill.

Do any of you spags live somehwere where this kind of thing seems a tad excessive?
I'm pretty sure you could move anywhere in California and have this be side-eyed. Anywhere except possibly supremacist strongholds like Wonder Valley (but there's nothing in WV except horses and trees that look like the Virgin Mary, so there's no reason to move there).

But I like both those things. :(


( :lol: )
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on April 05, 2012, 09:19:05 pm
At this point, I will not even be surprised when women are required to report for mandatory insemination.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Chairman Risus on April 05, 2012, 09:39:08 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but support for ridiculous bills like this are ebbing, right? It seems the proposed laws getting crazier are the death throes of a dying ideology.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on April 05, 2012, 09:41:41 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but support for ridiculous bills like this are ebbing, right? It seems the proposed laws getting crazier are the death throes of a dying ideology.

I'd like to think so... but I'm making plans for the day I get the letter for my appointment.  (They involve the kidnapping and molestation of some poor, undeserving bastard... but, hey, he'll die with a smile on his face...)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 05, 2012, 11:00:08 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but support for ridiculous bills like this are ebbing, right? It seems the proposed laws getting crazier are the death throes of a dying ideology.

They're causing the vast majority of female voters to rethink voting for the Republicans, and making more than a few male independent voters feel the same way.

While I'm hesistant to forecast this far ahead, it's very possible doing things like this will result in Obama winning the presidential election later this year, and the House going back to the Democrats.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 05, 2012, 11:05:14 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but support for ridiculous bills like this are ebbing, right? It seems the proposed laws getting crazier are the death throes of a dying ideology.

Nationally, yes.

In Arizona, no.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 08, 2012, 02:10:27 pm
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/sv-legislator-sinister-plot-is-behind-toll-highway-plan/article_a6d27645-e6b4-5a82-9b4b-9381fc2b934a.html#ixzz1rHEffT1P

Basically, this toll highway is going to lead to a North American superstate which will abolish the USA and replace the dollar with the "Amero".  So clearly, voting against it was the right choice.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: hirley0 on April 08, 2012, 05:41:28 pm
A insemination.
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SirMen
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right  choice.
1 if by Lad 2 if by C
Look there is just no way to move the billions of bodies
from the bath to the BEDs other than by boat
check youR math program | if U have 1
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:24:20 pm
Lawyering, hard.   Getting disbarred, easy. (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/andrew_thomas_ethics_arpaio.php?ref=fpb)

Sheriff Arpaio must be having a sad:

Quote
Nick R. Martin April 10, 2012, 12:18 PM Updated: April 10, 2012, 1:10 PM

In a Phoenix courtroom filled with fellow lawyers and some of his biggest critics on Tuesday, the former Arizona prosecutor who served for years as Sheriff Joe Arpaio's right-hand man was stripped of his license to practice law.

A three-member panel of the State Bar of Arizona ruled that ex-Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas abused his powers as a prosecutor to target his political enemies. Because of that, they ruled he would be disbarred.

One of Thomas' top aides, Lisa Aubuchon, was also disbarred for her role in the misconduct. A second aide, Rachel Alexander, had her law license suspended for six months.

Looks like Arpaio's machine may finally be coming unglued.

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: LMNO on April 10, 2012, 07:25:35 pm
Is this good news, or is Sherrif Joe just gonna go rogue and start wasting immagrants?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 10, 2012, 07:31:32 pm
He'll get a cable teevee show like The Bounty Hunter.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: CorbeauEtRenard on April 10, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
Little late to the party from missing about a week of news and stuff, but an acquaintance of mine suggested the other day that all the women in Arizona go on perpetual maternity leave in protest, since they might discover any two-weeks-from-now that they've been retroactively pregnant.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 08:49:46 pm
Is this good news, or is Sherrif Joe just gonna go rogue and start wasting immagrants?

Somewhat good news.

It means his machine is no longer untouchable.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on April 13, 2012, 05:32:28 am
Ok, seriously. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR STATE, DOK?

From here[/ (http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/04/01/arizona-legislators-trying-to-declare-pregnancy-two-weeks-prior-to-conception?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20rhrealitycheck%20%28RHRealityCheck.org%29&utm_content=Google%20Reader)
Quote from: Arizona Lawmakers Trying To Legislate Pregnancy Two Weeks Prior To Conception
Medically speaking, pregnancy starts when a fertilized egg implants in the uterine lining. Anti-choicers have attempted to shift the goalposts of pregnancy with their failed attempts to pass “personhood” laws conferring the full rights of a living, breathing person on a fertilized egg.

Arizona and other states with 20-week bans are trying to argue that you’re pregnant a couple of weeks before you even had the sex that resulted in your pregnancy.

Think about the implications down the road. If a woman is “pregnant” two weeks before she becomes pregnant, than any fertile woman---including those currently menstruating!---should really be considered pregnant. After all, we don’t know the future. We don’t know that any non-pregnant woman couldn’t be pregnant two weeks from now, making her retroactively pregnant now. Considering that it’s anti-choice nuts we’re talking about, it’s safe to assume that they’d simply prefer a situation where all women of reproductive age are considered to be pregnant, on the grounds that they could be two weeks from now. Better safe than sorry, especially if that mentality means you get to exert maximum control over the bodies of women of reproductive age.

Between personhood bills and the assault on access to contraception, it’s becoming increasingly clear that anti-choicers aren’t satisfied with simply trying to control the already-pregnant. Finding ways to define the not-pregnant as pregnant is a means of laying the groundwork for exerting this control. Imagine if Roe is overturned and states go into a true frenzy of stripping every imaginable right away from pregnant women. It wouldn’t be limited to stripping the right to abortion, but also to any kind of behavior deemed “abortive,” including holding certain kinds of jobs, eating certain foods, or taking certain medications. With this bill, then, you could not only restrict the rights of those who are actually pregnant, but extend the restrictions to all women of reproductive age on the grounds that they “could be pregnant in two weeks, i.e. in perpetuity” and would therefore be considered the same thing as being pregnant.

Already in some states, they’re looking for ways to prosecute women who have stillbirths if they did something the prosecutor believes may have had an impact on the pregnancy, such as drug use. With the hoped-for overturn of Roe, we can expect these efforts to intensify, with prosecutions of miscarriages. Now with this Arizona bill, if a woman is deemed pregnant two weeks before she actually is, prosecutors could even have a chance to look at your choices when you weren’t even pregnant---before you even had the sex that made you pregnant---and blame those choices for bad outcomes. They’re creating, brick by brick, the legal basis on which to prosecute a woman who drinks some alcohol, becomes pregnant two weeks later, and miscarries, even though she didn’t drink while pregnant. And you best believe that when feminists protest this, they’ll just paint it as if we’re more interested in protecting drunken sluts than “babies.”

If you can [legally] be “pregnant” without being pregnant, that also creates legal complications around simple menstruation. After all, menstruation is usually seen as the opposite of being pregnant; women use menstruation to mark that they aren’t pregnant. But under this bill, you could both be menstruating and “pregnant” by law. Should Roe be overturned and the state start looking to prosecute women for miscarriages they deem inappropriately prevented, what about women who are just getting their period? They’re “pregnant” under the pregnant-prior-to-conception framework, aren’t they? Are they miscarrying in the eyes of the law or are they just continuing their theoretical pregnancy? These kinds of ambiguities are exactly the sort of thing zealous misogynist law enforcement will be looking to exploit.
WTFIDE
GUESS WHAT YOUR DESERT QUEEN SIGNED, GUISE! (http://jezebel.com/5901617/uteruses-everywhere-weep-as-arizona-governor-signs-insanely-restrictive-abortion-bill-into-law?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 13, 2012, 05:51:16 am
Ok, seriously. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR STATE, DOK?

From here[/ (http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/04/01/arizona-legislators-trying-to-declare-pregnancy-two-weeks-prior-to-conception?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20rhrealitycheck%20%28RHRealityCheck.org%29&utm_content=Google%20Reader)
Quote from: Arizona Lawmakers Trying To Legislate Pregnancy Two Weeks Prior To Conception
Medically speaking, pregnancy starts when a fertilized egg implants in the uterine lining. Anti-choicers have attempted to shift the goalposts of pregnancy with their failed attempts to pass “personhood” laws conferring the full rights of a living, breathing person on a fertilized egg.

Arizona and other states with 20-week bans are trying to argue that you’re pregnant a couple of weeks before you even had the sex that resulted in your pregnancy.

Think about the implications down the road. If a woman is “pregnant” two weeks before she becomes pregnant, than any fertile woman---including those currently menstruating!---should really be considered pregnant. After all, we don’t know the future. We don’t know that any non-pregnant woman couldn’t be pregnant two weeks from now, making her retroactively pregnant now. Considering that it’s anti-choice nuts we’re talking about, it’s safe to assume that they’d simply prefer a situation where all women of reproductive age are considered to be pregnant, on the grounds that they could be two weeks from now. Better safe than sorry, especially if that mentality means you get to exert maximum control over the bodies of women of reproductive age.

Between personhood bills and the assault on access to contraception, it’s becoming increasingly clear that anti-choicers aren’t satisfied with simply trying to control the already-pregnant. Finding ways to define the not-pregnant as pregnant is a means of laying the groundwork for exerting this control. Imagine if Roe is overturned and states go into a true frenzy of stripping every imaginable right away from pregnant women. It wouldn’t be limited to stripping the right to abortion, but also to any kind of behavior deemed “abortive,” including holding certain kinds of jobs, eating certain foods, or taking certain medications. With this bill, then, you could not only restrict the rights of those who are actually pregnant, but extend the restrictions to all women of reproductive age on the grounds that they “could be pregnant in two weeks, i.e. in perpetuity” and would therefore be considered the same thing as being pregnant.

Already in some states, they’re looking for ways to prosecute women who have stillbirths if they did something the prosecutor believes may have had an impact on the pregnancy, such as drug use. With the hoped-for overturn of Roe, we can expect these efforts to intensify, with prosecutions of miscarriages. Now with this Arizona bill, if a woman is deemed pregnant two weeks before she actually is, prosecutors could even have a chance to look at your choices when you weren’t even pregnant---before you even had the sex that made you pregnant---and blame those choices for bad outcomes. They’re creating, brick by brick, the legal basis on which to prosecute a woman who drinks some alcohol, becomes pregnant two weeks later, and miscarries, even though she didn’t drink while pregnant. And you best believe that when feminists protest this, they’ll just paint it as if we’re more interested in protecting drunken sluts than “babies.”

If you can [legally] be “pregnant” without being pregnant, that also creates legal complications around simple menstruation. After all, menstruation is usually seen as the opposite of being pregnant; women use menstruation to mark that they aren’t pregnant. But under this bill, you could both be menstruating and “pregnant” by law. Should Roe be overturned and the state start looking to prosecute women for miscarriages they deem inappropriately prevented, what about women who are just getting their period? They’re “pregnant” under the pregnant-prior-to-conception framework, aren’t they? Are they miscarrying in the eyes of the law or are they just continuing their theoretical pregnancy? These kinds of ambiguities are exactly the sort of thing zealous misogynist law enforcement will be looking to exploit.
WTFIDE
GUESS WHAT YOUR DESERT QUEEN SIGNED, GUISE! (http://jezebel.com/5901617/uteruses-everywhere-weep-as-arizona-governor-signs-insanely-restrictive-abortion-bill-into-law?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 13, 2012, 06:20:19 am
I was just running over here from facebook to lik that.

Every female in AZ from about 11 to 50 or so is now "legally pregnant".  :x

I don't think I've seen anything this retarded in my life. Ever.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Golden Applesauce on April 13, 2012, 02:13:51 pm
Isn't "# of weeks pregnant" traditionally counted from the last period, since the date of that is known - as opposed to the sex & implantation, which could have occurred anywhere over a couple of weeks time span?

Having something be illegal after 20 +/- 2 weeks seems even more insane, because then wouldn't the only way to know if your abortion came before or after the time limit would be to do an autopsy after the abortion had already happened?  So abortions would be legal in the first 18 weeks, but anyone getting an abortion over the next two weeks could be charged with a crime anyway if the DA thought that the embryo/fetus/whatever looked a little too developed?  Sounds a little "this act may or may not be illegal.  Do it first and we'll let you know." to me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 02:16:53 pm
I tell people about this, and they don't believe me.  Even here, in the heart of the madness.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2012, 02:22:17 pm
Not having sex is now the moral equivalent to abortion, I hope you realise.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 02:23:44 pm
Not having sex is now the moral equivalent to abortion, I hope you realise.

Good thing they're redefining "rape", right?  Now it's "medical evangelism".  :lol:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2012, 02:30:18 pm
It's about high time American realised the role of 51% of the population is to churn out as many babies as possible.  How can you possibly compete with China/make God happy/have endless foreign wars without a rapidly increasing population base?  It's practically selfish, refusing to reproduce constantly.  And not the good kind of selfish, like banks and businessmen and Ayn Rand encourage.  No, this is the bad kind of selfishness, because Feminazis and atheists and Sandra Fluke.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 02:43:53 pm
Email to Jan Brewer:

Dear Governor Brewer,

Congratulations on passing that pregnancy bill, but there's still much to be done.  When are you going to sign legislation requiring that you filthy whores dress decently (ankle skirts at the LEAST)?  Let's get that done, and then get your ass out of that office and back in the kitchen where you belong.

Sincerely,
Michael Hicks
Chairman,
Tuscon Unified School District
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2012, 02:45:40 pm
I see Jan Brewer has only had three children so far in her life.  She's obviously not trying hard enough.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 13, 2012, 06:38:43 pm
I tell people about this, and they don't believe me.  Even here, in the heart of the madness.

 :lulz:

When I took my dog out last night. I saw the people down the street were outside and I was thinking momentarily about going over there and telling them, until I realized that "All the women in Arizona are legally pregnant now" sounds like something a psychotic street person would go around saying.

Hey, if a woman in Arizona is legally pregnant and she visits another state where she is no longer considered pregnant and then comes home SHE TERMINATED A PREGNANCY!!!1! OH FUCKING NOES! CALL TEH LAW!!!11!!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 09:26:10 pm
Also, rape victims are now "rape accusers".  Other crime victims are still victims.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 13, 2012, 09:28:29 pm
Why am I not more eager to leave here?  I should be fleeing.  FLEEING!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 09:29:55 pm
Why am I not more eager to leave here?  I should be fleeing.  FLEEING!

To where?  Even Canada's gone retarded.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 13, 2012, 09:31:03 pm
Why am I not more eager to leave here?  I should be fleeing.  FLEEING!

To where?  Even Canada's gone retarded.

There's some places in the States where the retardation doesn't reach Arizona depths.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 13, 2012, 09:31:44 pm
Why am I not more eager to leave here?  I should be fleeing.  FLEEING!

To where?  Even Canada's gone retarded.

There's some places in the States where the retardation doesn't reach Arizona depths.

Chicago and Portland.

Boston.

That's it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 13, 2012, 10:17:38 pm
A few is better than none.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2012, 04:00:44 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 14, 2012, 04:08:50 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on April 14, 2012, 04:10:46 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 14, 2012, 04:36:47 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.

They should push for that. And put in for whatever benefits AZ has left these days for pregnant women, even if it's just WIC.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2012, 04:42:34 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.

They should push for that. And put in for whatever benefits AZ has left these days for pregnant women, even if it's just WIC.

Um.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 14, 2012, 04:44:48 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.

They should push for that. And put in for whatever benefits AZ has left these days for pregnant women, even if it's just WIC.

Um.

No WIC?

Even TEXAS has WIC.   :x

Has AZ surpassed us AND Florida?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 14, 2012, 04:47:40 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.

They should push for that. And put in for whatever benefits AZ has left these days for pregnant women, even if it's just WIC.

Um.

No WIC?

Even TEXAS has WIC.   :x

Has AZ surpassed us AND Florida?

Oh, we have WIC and even health insurance for poor people.

But you can't actually have any.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on April 14, 2012, 04:50:38 am
ALL WOMEN IN ARIZONA NEED TO GO ON MATERNITY LEAVE NOW.  UNTIL MENOPAUSE.

This should totally happen.

Only if they get paid maternity leave with the company they're with.

They should push for that. And put in for whatever benefits AZ has left these days for pregnant women, even if it's just WIC.

NOW YOU'RE THINKING LIKE THEM.

"Quick! Someone pass a measure that states that a woman can't go on WIC until she's passed the last date that she could abort in the most permissive state in the Union! We don't want these Lib'rul WIC abusers collecting free peanut butter and then going to Ohio! Better make 'em pay for transVaginal Ultrasounds too before they get the free cheese...just to make sure they aren't gaming the system.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on April 14, 2012, 09:11:03 am
Actually, when you read the legislation carefully, there is one day of every month when women are not "legally pregnant".

I suggest all women go on a boozy rampage on said day.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 14, 2012, 04:30:17 pm
I am so relieved that I never moved to AZ.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on April 14, 2012, 06:53:27 pm
Actually, when you read the legislation carefully, there is one day of every month when women are not "legally pregnant".

I suggest all women go on a boozy rampage on said day.

TEQUILA.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on April 16, 2012, 01:15:05 am
Actually, when you read the legislation carefully, there is one day of every month when women are not "legally pregnant".

I suggest all women go on a boozy rampage on said day.

NOT SO FAST, BITCHES.

An EtG Urinalysis can detect alcohol in your system for up to 80 hours and if we can see the spirits, that means your unborn child can. You will be guilty of harming your baby the next day.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2012, 07:23:08 pm
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/03/11518129-neo-nazi-who-killed-family-was-cruel-controlling-friend-of-victims-says?ocid=ansmsnbc11

That was one of Sheriff Joe's good buddies.

Doo bee doo bee doo.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on May 03, 2012, 07:29:40 pm
Saw a blurb about this on the news (Fox, in the auto shop waiting room. Ugh.) not five minutes ago. Fuckin' A.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 03, 2012, 07:37:54 pm
I didn't know about this guy before, but from the way he was described, I'm not sorry he's dead.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2012, 07:39:12 pm
I didn't know about this guy before, but from the way he was described, I'm not sorry he's dead.

Too bad he took 4 other people with him, including a toddler.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 03, 2012, 07:40:09 pm
I didn't know about this guy before, but from the way he was described, I'm not sorry he's dead.

Too bad he took 4 other people with him, including a toddler.

That is the very upsetting part, yes. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on May 03, 2012, 07:57:13 pm
J T Ready was basically a domestic terrorist in the making.  I'm not sad he's gone, but I am sad that people were pointing their finger at "narco-terrorists" at the border being a bigger threat.  They certainly weren't a bigger threat to Ready's family.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on May 03, 2012, 11:26:10 pm
J T Ready was basically a domestic terrorist in the making.  I'm not sad he's gone, but I am sad that people were pointing their finger at "narco-terrorists" at the border being a bigger threat.  They certainly weren't a bigger threat to Ready's family.

 :argh!:

I didn't know about this guy before, but from the way he was described, I'm not sorry he's dead.

Too bad he took 4 other people with him, including a toddler.

 :argh!: :argh!:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 05, 2012, 01:23:42 am
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/03/11518129-neo-nazi-who-killed-family-was-cruel-controlling-friend-of-victims-says?ocid=ansmsnbc11

That was one of Sheriff Joe's good buddies.

Doo bee doo bee doo.

That's pretty much the kind of people who want to shoot desperate immigrants coming over the border. It's not that they want to shoot immigrants as much as it is that they want to shoot someone.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2012, 01:05:46 am
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/03/11518129-neo-nazi-who-killed-family-was-cruel-controlling-friend-of-victims-says?ocid=ansmsnbc11

That was one of Sheriff Joe's good buddies.

Doo bee doo bee doo.

That's pretty much the kind of people who want to shoot desperate immigrants coming over the border. It's not that they want to shoot immigrants as much as it is that they want to shoot someone.

And to make sure that someone is by law lower on the totem pole than they are.

The Southern planters had the buckra.

Modern corporations have these yahoos.

By the way, would it surprise you to know that this guy and Russell Pearce were good buddies?  Incidentally, Pearce will not be reimbursed for his expenses for his failed defense of his recall.  Arizona seems to be not feeling quite itself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/04/russell-pearce-recall-reimbursement_n_1476497.html?ref=gop
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 06, 2012, 01:23:56 am
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/03/11518129-neo-nazi-who-killed-family-was-cruel-controlling-friend-of-victims-says?ocid=ansmsnbc11

That was one of Sheriff Joe's good buddies.

Doo bee doo bee doo.

That's pretty much the kind of people who want to shoot desperate immigrants coming over the border. It's not that they want to shoot immigrants as much as it is that they want to shoot someone.

And to make sure that someone is by law lower on the totem pole than they are.

The Southern planters had the buckra.

Modern corporations have these yahoos.

By the way, would it surprise you to know that this guy and Russell Pearce were good buddies?  Incidentally, Pearce will not be reimbursed for his expenses for his failed defense of his recall.  Arizona seems to be not feeling quite itself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/04/russell-pearce-recall-reimbursement_n_1476497.html?ref=gop

Ahahahahaha! Oh, finally, a little ray of sanity shines from your state.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2012, 09:04:40 pm
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/03/11518129-neo-nazi-who-killed-family-was-cruel-controlling-friend-of-victims-says?ocid=ansmsnbc11

That was one of Sheriff Joe's good buddies.

Doo bee doo bee doo.

That's pretty much the kind of people who want to shoot desperate immigrants coming over the border. It's not that they want to shoot immigrants as much as it is that they want to shoot someone.

And to make sure that someone is by law lower on the totem pole than they are.

The Southern planters had the buckra.

Modern corporations have these yahoos.

By the way, would it surprise you to know that this guy and Russell Pearce were good buddies?  Incidentally, Pearce will not be reimbursed for his expenses for his failed defense of his recall.  Arizona seems to be not feeling quite itself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/04/russell-pearce-recall-reimbursement_n_1476497.html?ref=gop

Ahahahahaha! Oh, finally, a little ray of sanity shines from your state.

Well, it's like this...People come here to retire from all over America, and they really don't have a lot in common with each other.  They have even less in common with Hispanics.  So the obvious way to gain a sense of belonging is to rage out at THEM THAR ILLEEGULS.  It then became fashionable to out-zealous everyone else, in the same way they try to out-zealous everyone at their church.  So ANYTHING GOES.

Until it DID go, in the form of SB1072.  Then everyone sort of dropped the subject and pretended they were never involved, because it suddenly wasn't as much FUN when they got their way...and realized they'd turned into the same people, more or less, that their parents had fought in Europe.

So while I don't expect Arizona to suddenly come to Jesus and become a liberal state, or even to stop the crazy shit, at least in this one thing, they felt shitty enough to turf out the bastard that wrote SB1072.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 06, 2012, 11:13:15 pm
AND THEN THIS SHIT HAPPENED!


Quote
Gov. Jan Brewer signed into law late Friday a bill that bans the state or any local government from using public money to contract with an organization that includes abortions in its services.

The governor's signature on House Bill 2800 comes on the heels of her approval last month of a bill that bans abortions after 20 weeks.

Brewer signed the measure while speaking at a reception for the Susan B. Anthony List, a group devoted to helping elect anti-abortion officials to public office.

 "This is a common-sense law that tightens existing state regulations and closes loopholes in order to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to fund abortions, whether directly or indirectly," Brewer said in a statement. "By signing this measure into law, I stand with the majority of Americans who oppose the use of taxpayer funds for abortion."

HB 2800, sponsored by Rep. Justin Olson, R-Mesa, passed through the Legislature with Republican support.

The law aims to prevent contracts with or grants to any group that perform abortions that do not meet the federal requirements under Title 19 of the Social Security Act, which reimburses in cases of rape, incest or life endangerment. It also prioritizes how public money for family planning will be distributed -- such as to state-owned health-care centers and rural hospitals.

The law would not impact money that passes through the state Department of Health Services because the state does not provide money for family planning, an agency spokeswoman has said.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/05/04/20120504arizona-abortion-services-bill-signed-into-law.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on May 07, 2012, 12:12:39 am
Okay, so...planned parenthood is effectively banned from AZ. Got it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 07, 2012, 01:34:11 am
God forbid that taxpayers fund abortions! Or other reproductive health services!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on May 11, 2012, 08:43:10 pm
Looks like the DoJ is making a move against Sheriff Joe.

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/46420125101544060757.pdf

Quote
From at least 2006 and continuing through the present, MCSO officers have unlawfully discriminated against Latinos and otherwise violated their constitutional rights through a broad range of police practices, including the following: Unconstitutional and unlawful targeting of Latinos, because of their race, color, or national origin, for pretextual traffic stops during routine enforcement activity, in connection with purported immigration and human smuggling law enforcement activities, and during purported crime suppression operations (suppression sweeps) Unconstitutional and unlawful detention of Latino drivers and passengers, because of their race, color, or national origin, to determine immigration status, when there is no lawful basis for the detention…

The Defendants’ violations of the Constitution and laws of the United States are the product of a culture of disregard in MCSO for Latinos that starts at the top and pervades the organization. MCSO jail employees frequently refer to Latinos as “wetbacks,” “Mexican bitches,” and “stupid Mexicans.” MCSO supervisors involved in immigration enforcement have expressed anti-Latino bias, in one instance widely distributing an email that included a photograph of a Chihuahua dog dressed in swimming gear with the caption “A Rare Photo of a Mexican Navy Seal.” MCSO and Arpaio’s words and actions set the tone and create a culture of bias that contributes to unlawful actions.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2012, 08:51:20 pm
Looks like the DoJ is making a move against Sheriff Joe.

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/46420125101544060757.pdf

Quote
From at least 2006 and continuing through the present, MCSO officers have unlawfully discriminated against Latinos and otherwise violated their constitutional rights through a broad range of police practices, including the following: Unconstitutional and unlawful targeting of Latinos, because of their race, color, or national origin, for pretextual traffic stops during routine enforcement activity, in connection with purported immigration and human smuggling law enforcement activities, and during purported crime suppression operations (suppression sweeps) Unconstitutional and unlawful detention of Latino drivers and passengers, because of their race, color, or national origin, to determine immigration status, when there is no lawful basis for the detention…

The Defendants’ violations of the Constitution and laws of the United States are the product of a culture of disregard in MCSO for Latinos that starts at the top and pervades the organization. MCSO jail employees frequently refer to Latinos as “wetbacks,” “Mexican bitches,” and “stupid Mexicans.” MCSO supervisors involved in immigration enforcement have expressed anti-Latino bias, in one instance widely distributing an email that included a photograph of a Chihuahua dog dressed in swimming gear with the caption “A Rare Photo of a Mexican Navy Seal.” MCSO and Arpaio’s words and actions set the tone and create a culture of bias that contributes to unlawful actions.

WOOT!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 11, 2012, 08:51:28 pm
NO WAY. :D DELIGHTED DISBELIEF.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 11, 2012, 10:25:15 pm
I'm hoping for a strip-search thorough audit of every dime that man has ever touched.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on May 12, 2012, 12:03:29 am
I'm hoping for a strip-search thorough audit of every dime that man has ever touched.

(http://cdn.stripersonline.com/d/d2/350x494px-LL-d2def7d4_cavity-search-gloved-hand.jpeg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 12, 2012, 01:16:57 am
I'm hoping for a strip-search thorough audit of every dime that man has ever touched.

(http://cdn.stripersonline.com/d/d2/350x494px-LL-d2def7d4_cavity-search-gloved-hand.jpeg)

Perfect.   :)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2012, 04:55:41 am
Looks like the DoJ is making a move against Sheriff Joe.

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/46420125101544060757.pdf

Quote
From at least 2006 and continuing through the present, MCSO officers have unlawfully discriminated against Latinos and otherwise violated their constitutional rights through a broad range of police practices, including the following: Unconstitutional and unlawful targeting of Latinos, because of their race, color, or national origin, for pretextual traffic stops during routine enforcement activity, in connection with purported immigration and human smuggling law enforcement activities, and during purported crime suppression operations (suppression sweeps) Unconstitutional and unlawful detention of Latino drivers and passengers, because of their race, color, or national origin, to determine immigration status, when there is no lawful basis for the detention…

The Defendants’ violations of the Constitution and laws of the United States are the product of a culture of disregard in MCSO for Latinos that starts at the top and pervades the organization. MCSO jail employees frequently refer to Latinos as “wetbacks,” “Mexican bitches,” and “stupid Mexicans.” MCSO supervisors involved in immigration enforcement have expressed anti-Latino bias, in one instance widely distributing an email that included a photograph of a Chihuahua dog dressed in swimming gear with the caption “A Rare Photo of a Mexican Navy Seal.” MCSO and Arpaio’s words and actions set the tone and create a culture of bias that contributes to unlawful actions.

'BOUT FUCKING TIME!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on May 19, 2012, 04:23:11 pm
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/18/arizona_official_suggests_obama_could_be_off_ballot.html#047993a

Quote
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R) told KFYI he’s not entirely convinced President Obama was really born in the United States and suggested he could be knocked off the state’s presidential ballot.

Said Bennett: “I’m not a birther. I believe the president was born in Hawaii—or at least I hope he was. But my responsibility as secretary of state is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking.”
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 19, 2012, 04:28:19 pm
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/18/arizona_official_suggests_obama_could_be_off_ballot.html#047993a

Quote
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R) told KFYI he’s not entirely convinced President Obama was really born in the United States and suggested he could be knocked off the state’s presidential ballot.

Said Bennett: “I’m not a birther. I believe the president was born in Hawaii—or at least I hope he was. But my responsibility as secretary of state is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking.”

What the shit? That doesn't even make any sense.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on May 20, 2012, 12:13:59 am
Sort of sounds like the "I'm not a bigot but...." to me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on May 21, 2012, 11:09:00 am
Jesus H. Fornication, people.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

It's seriously sad that this is still a fucking topic.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 21, 2012, 11:30:26 am
Jesus H. Fornication, people.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

It's seriously sad that this is still a fucking topic.

BUT THAT'S NOT A REALLY REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! 

 :teabagger1:

LOOK!  IT SAYS SO IN THE INNERBUTTS!

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2008/08/proof-barack-obama-birth-certificate-is.html
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on May 21, 2012, 11:34:17 am
What I love about that link is:

a) it provides no proof whatsoever for its main assertion, and
b) Obama's father really is African.  As in, he came over from Kenya, to study.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: navkat on May 21, 2012, 12:05:09 pm
What I love about that link is:

a) it provides no proof whatsoever for its main assertion, and
b) Obama's father really is African.  As in, he came over from Kenya, to study.

The real humour in the situation being that Ken Bennett "isn't a birther" but in spite of a birth certificate posted to the whitehouse.gov website, finds that link (or something similar to it) plausible enough to knock the man off the AZ ballot.

"There'll be no Mexicans getting Arizona votes, this  year, I tell ya."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 21, 2012, 12:36:55 pm
What I love about that link is:

a) it provides no proof whatsoever for its main assertion, and
b) Obama's father really is African.  As in, he came over from Kenya, to study.

People will believe what they WANT to believe in order to justify their own stupidity.  It makes my brain itch.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 22, 2012, 01:44:57 am
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Looks like the good folks at the Hawaii department of vital records have had it up to their eyeballs with this shit.

TPM filed a FOI request for the emails between them and Ken Bennett regarding him requesting that they verify the President's birth certificate.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on May 22, 2012, 04:34:08 am
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Looks like the good folks at the Hawaii department of vital records have had it up to their eyeballs with this shit.

TPM filed a FOI request for the emails between them and Ken Bennett regarding him requesting that they verify the President's birth certificate.

Quote from: Jill from Hawaii
SUCK MY DICK, KEN!
  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on May 22, 2012, 11:27:46 am
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Looks like the good folks at the Hawaii department of vital records have had it up to their eyeballs with this shit.

TPM filed a FOI request for the emails between them and Ken Bennett regarding him requesting that they verify the President's birth certificate.

Quote from: Jill from Hawaii
SUCK MY DICK, KEN!
  :lulz:

 :lol:

"You want paperwork to prove he's eligible?  Sure, soon as you prove you're eligible to have it..."
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Telarus on May 22, 2012, 12:41:41 pm
 :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2012, 11:23:24 pm
One of TGRR's axioms was based directly off of Arizona.

61.  "Impossible" is a pretty stupid word to use when describing something that's already happened.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2012, 01:58:42 am
Sheriff Joe's office has a new WANTED poster going around:

(http://ricketyclick.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/holder-wanted-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on May 23, 2012, 02:16:10 am
They know where he is.  They should just go get him.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 23, 2012, 02:18:08 am
They know where he is.  They should just go get him.

I could say the same thing about the feds.  The complaint was filed a little while ago, and NOTHING has happened.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on June 01, 2012, 09:52:12 pm
I have been giggling lately over learning that not only does Sheriff Joe have a cold case "posse" investigating Obama's birth certificate, but his office is willing to spend taxpayer money to send them to Hawaii on an undercover wild-goose chase.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu/

Quote from: Wing Nut Daily
In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii.
...
Zullo’s investigation is a volunteer effort, but the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has sent him to Hawaii with an MCSO deputy detective for safety reasons and to act as a liaison between MCSO and local law enforcement.

WND reporter Jerome Corsi is embedded with the investigators in Hawaii with the provision that reporting during the trip be curtailed to protect the investigation.
:lol:

I so want to see this story made into a cheesy action/suspense movie making these guys out to be heroes and the stonewalling Hawaiian bureaucrats as the villains.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 01, 2012, 09:56:05 pm
Quote
I have been giggling lately over learning that not only does Sheriff Joe have a cold case "posse" investigating Obama's birth certificate, but his office is willing to spend taxpayer money to send them to Hawaii on an undercover wild-goose chase.

But we can't let poor people eat or get health insurance, no siree!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 02, 2012, 02:49:18 am
Holy FUCK, dis fread.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on June 03, 2012, 12:54:19 pm
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/30/petition-demands-arizona-sec-of-state-ken-bennett-investigate-if-mitt-romney-is-a-unicorn/

Well, if he's going to investigate shit he doesn't believe just because people ASK him to...
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 03, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
I'm not saying Mitt Romney is a unicorn, but it would be irresponsible not to speculate, given his personal history.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 03, 2012, 05:12:37 pm
It's possible that since his father is an undocumented Mexican, his mother might be La Chusa.
La Llorana might have been better for all of us.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 03, 2012, 05:36:27 pm
Oh shit! :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2012, 08:12:17 pm
OH, ARIZONA, HOW DO I LOVE THEE?

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/republican-candidates-machine-gun-video-vows

Bear in mind, this is the same state Gabby Giffords was shot in, not so long ago.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on June 06, 2012, 08:34:36 pm
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Robles campaign manager Robert Davis pointed to the candidate's job as a state parole agent as an explanation for the violent imagery.

"Mr. Robles is in law enforcement, if you’re not aware of that, so I think it’s his way of just kind of sending our message," Davis told Politicker.

wut....
that totally makes it better
 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 06, 2012, 09:56:25 pm
OH, ARIZONA, HOW DO I LOVE THEE?

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/republican-candidates-machine-gun-video-vows

Bear in mind, this is the same state Gabby Giffords was shot in, not so long ago.

No, this is in California.  Still lulzy, though. :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 11, 2012, 02:06:49 am
Cult! http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/mysterious-yoga-retreat-ends-in-a-grisly-death.html?_r=4&ref=global-home
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on June 11, 2012, 02:32:35 am
what. :lulz: That sounds like a movie premise, almost.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 11, 2012, 02:33:55 am
A lot of stuff out there sounds like a movie premise.  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 11, 2012, 04:14:01 am
Cult! http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/mysterious-yoga-retreat-ends-in-a-grisly-death.html?_r=4&ref=global-home

Dude, creepy!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 02:24:57 pm
Goddamn it!  Jesse Kelly threw away a 20 point lead, and then lost by an additional 7% in the special election (to replace Gabby Giffords).  He bungled it with bad propaganda, and an inability to SHUT UP.

Plus side:  Ron Barbour is our new congressman.  He is sane.

Negative side:  I'm out $500.

I don't know whether to celebrate or SHIT MY PANCE IN RAGE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 02:31:15 pm
:walken:

or

:lolchix:  At my outraged co-workers.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2012, 03:26:56 pm
Jesse Kelly... lost?  :eek:  :aaa:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 04:43:07 pm
Jesse Kelly... lost?  :eek:  :aaa:

He got his ass KICKED.  By a no-name staffer for Giffords.   :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 04:43:47 pm
Jesse Kelly... lost?  :eek:  :aaa:

He got his ass KICKED.  By a no-name staffer for Giffords.   :lulz:

Of course, he can try again in November...But he's lost twice.  No way is Jim Click gonna throw more money at him.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2012, 05:15:40 pm
I for one am shocked at this turn of events.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 05:32:31 pm
I for one am shocked at this turn of events.

So am I.  I feel like the neighbor's chihuahua just walked up and started singing Lady Gaga tunes to me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2012, 06:16:51 pm
Right? For Kelly, I imagine it's a bit more like how the neighbor's Chihuahua feels when the cat rapes it.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 07:00:39 pm
Right? For Kelly, I imagine it's a bit more like how the neighbor's Chihuahua feels when the cat rapes it.

IF THE CHIHUAHUA DIDN'T LIKE IT, IT WOULD WEAR ONE OF THOSE LITTLE DOGGIE SWEATERS AND NOT BE A TEASE.

I told the neighbor the same thing, but she only swore at me and threw her drink over the wall.  Damn near brained me.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 13, 2012, 09:01:35 pm
Right? For Kelly, I imagine it's a bit more like how the neighbor's Chihuahua feels when the cat rapes it.

IF THE CHIHUAHUA DIDN'T LIKE IT, IT WOULD WEAR ONE OF THOSE LITTLE DOGGIE SWEATERS AND NOT BE A TEASE.

I told the neighbor the same thing, but she only swore at me and threw her drink over the wall.  Damn near brained me.

I saw a Chihuahua just yesterday in a pink shirt and no pants. What do they EXPECT?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 13, 2012, 11:28:53 pm
 :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on June 14, 2012, 12:29:30 am
Right? For Kelly, I imagine it's a bit more like how the neighbor's Chihuahua feels when the cat rapes it.

IF THE CHIHUAHUA DIDN'T LIKE IT, IT WOULD WEAR ONE OF THOSE LITTLE DOGGIE SWEATERS AND NOT BE A TEASE.

I told the neighbor the same thing, but she only swore at me and threw her drink over the wall.  Damn near brained me.

hey, its hard enough to be a small dog without chihuahua-shaming the poor thing! the only thing that causes rape is that damned bourbon swilling cat!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Telarus on June 16, 2012, 01:38:00 am
Who spiked the AZ water supply with some moral fortitude?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/15/mexican-restaurants-library-decline-to-host-fundraiser-for-papers-please-az-lawmaker/
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 16, 2012, 02:10:45 am
Who spiked the AZ water supply with some moral fortitude?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/15/mexican-restaurants-library-decline-to-host-fundraiser-for-papers-please-az-lawmaker/


“Make no mistake, I am undeterred by a few individuals who are motivated by hatred in lieu of discussing the issues.”
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(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Russell-Pearce-official-615x345.png)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 16, 2012, 02:16:22 am
Someone please punch this fat bastard! :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 16, 2012, 05:11:02 am
Who spiked the AZ water supply with some moral fortitude?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/15/mexican-restaurants-library-decline-to-host-fundraiser-for-papers-please-az-lawmaker/


“Make no mistake, I am undeterred by a few individuals who are motivated by hatred in lieu of discussing the issues.”
\
(http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Russell-Pearce-official-615x345.png)

And everybody thought the squid spooge thing was gross.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 16, 2012, 05:14:13 am
Dude.  In your mind's eye, make his face skinnier.  WHO THE FUCK IS IT? 

Oh my god.  IT'S EVIL CLINT EASTWOOD. SHIT.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 25, 2012, 11:11:14 pm
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2012, 11:29:53 pm
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.

Pima country won't be enforcing any of it, anyway.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 25, 2012, 11:52:48 pm
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.

Pima country won't be enforcing any of it, anyway.

This is not surprising. You people hate America. Up here where Sheriff Joe is King, we know how to protect LIBERTY.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 12:04:24 am
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.

Pima country won't be enforcing any of it, anyway.

This is not surprising. You people hate America. Up here where Sheriff Joe is King, we know how to protect LIBERTY.

If Sheriff Joe goes down on those civil rights violations, Brewer is going to have to find another Nazi to fellate quickly, or Terry Goddard is going to kick her ass in the next election.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 12:08:04 am
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.

Pima country won't be enforcing any of it, anyway.

This is not surprising. You people hate America. Up here where Sheriff Joe is King, we know how to protect LIBERTY.

If Sheriff Joe goes down on those civil rights violations, Brewer is going to have to find another Nazi to fellate quickly, or Terry Goddard is going to kick her ass in the next election.

Everyone I've talked to thinks the DOJ is on a witch hunt. I don't think anything can take Joe down, except maybe cardiopulmonary disease. Even if he loses the suit, nothing will happen. The county will cough up the dough, and he'll win his election.

Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 12:12:44 am
Supreme Court: Take SB1070 And Shove It* Up your Ass, Arizona.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/25/politics/scotus-arizona-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

Parts of the law killed:
- Making it a State offense to fail to register as an Illegal Immigrant with the Federal Government.
- Making it a State offense to seek work or hold a job without citizenship or other legal right to work.
- Making it a State offense to not carry documentation proving your citizenship status.

Parts of the law upheld:
- Police are required to check citizenship status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally, during an otherwise routine stop. * WITH THE WARNING that such status checks may not delay the release of anyone who would otherwise be free to go. So they can't pull you over, claim you look "illegal," and toss you in jail for a week while they check. The court specifically said this provision of the law can be challenged again.

Pima country won't be enforcing any of it, anyway.

This is not surprising. You people hate America. Up here where Sheriff Joe is King, we know how to protect LIBERTY.

If Sheriff Joe goes down on those civil rights violations, Brewer is going to have to find another Nazi to fellate quickly, or Terry Goddard is going to kick her ass in the next election.

Everyone I've talked to thinks the DOJ is on a witch hunt. I don't think anything can take Joe down, except maybe cardiopulmonary disease. Even if he loses the suit, nothing will happen. The county will cough up the dough, and he'll win his election.

Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?

I've read the brief, it's posted here.  It's being remanded to federal court as well.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 26, 2012, 12:58:54 am
Quote
Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?

NO!  Surely you jest! :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 01:04:39 am
Quote
Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?

NO!  Surely you jest! :lulz:

It's the whole area really. FFS Glendale just raised property taxes by 36 PER-FUCKING-CENT so they could stay in the "Major League Sports" club by keeping the Coyotes around. Oh, sure, the taxes would have gone up "anyway," to pay for the stadium where NOBODY GOES to watch a sport NOBODY WATCHES, whether the Coyotes stayed or went. Just goes to show you, something about the 10 or 15 degree heat difference between Tucson and Phoenix results in a lot of brain damage.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 26, 2012, 01:09:15 am
Quote
Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?

NO!  Surely you jest! :lulz:

It's the whole area really. FFS Glendale just raised property taxes by 36 PER-FUCKING-CENT so they could stay in the "Major League Sports" club by keeping the Coyotes around. Oh, sure, the taxes would have gone up "anyway," to pay for the stadium where NOBODY GOES to watch a sport NOBODY WATCHES, whether the Coyotes stayed or went. Just goes to show you, something about the 10 or 15 degree heat difference between Tucson and Phoenix results in a lot of brain damage.

Dude, nobody, and I mean nobody was meant to live in a desert.  I've written about it before, I've got another thing brewing in my head.  The only difference between Phoenix and Tucson is the people and their expectations, really.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 01:17:14 am
Quote
Also, have you ever noticed that Phoenix is really, really fucking full of itself?

NO!  Surely you jest! :lulz:

It's the whole area really. FFS Glendale just raised property taxes by 36 PER-FUCKING-CENT so they could stay in the "Major League Sports" club by keeping the Coyotes around. Oh, sure, the taxes would have gone up "anyway," to pay for the stadium where NOBODY GOES to watch a sport NOBODY WATCHES, whether the Coyotes stayed or went. Just goes to show you, something about the 10 or 15 degree heat difference between Tucson and Phoenix results in a lot of brain damage.

Glendale is just trying to capture Buckeye's title as "Newest ghost town".
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on June 26, 2012, 02:15:47 am
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 02:25:22 am
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 26, 2012, 02:34:47 am
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

The solution for this is clear:  Buy several gallons of green paint.  Apply to lawn.

Alternatively, astroturf.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on June 26, 2012, 02:45:01 am
PAINT! My vote is paint!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 02:48:49 am
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on June 26, 2012, 10:30:28 pm


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 10:32:42 pm


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?
One page back. Not much spagging though.

But I DO think it's hilarious that the Supreme Court left the "show me your papers" provision intact, and Obama immediately responded with "that's fine. We just won't return any phone calls from AZ police. Have fun with that provision guys!" and canceled AZ's enforcement agreements with ICE.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 26, 2012, 10:47:07 pm


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?
One page back. Not much spagging though.

But I DO think it's hilarious that the Supreme Court left the "show me your papers" provision intact, and Obama immediately responded with "that's fine. We just won't return any phone calls from AZ police. Have fun with that provision guys!" and canceled AZ's enforcement agreements with ICE.

Obama is the king of the trolls. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 26, 2012, 10:48:48 pm


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?
One page back. Not much spagging though.

But I DO think it's hilarious that the Supreme Court left the "show me your papers" provision intact, and Obama immediately responded with "that's fine. We just won't return any phone calls from AZ police. Have fun with that provision guys!" and canceled AZ's enforcement agreements with ICE.

Obama is the king of the trolls. 

Indeed. Hence my special Election 2012 edition avatar.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on June 26, 2012, 10:52:35 pm


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?
One page back. Not much spagging though.

But I DO think it's hilarious that the Supreme Court left the "show me your papers" provision intact, and Obama immediately responded with "that's fine. We just won't return any phone calls from AZ police. Have fun with that provision guys!" and canceled AZ's enforcement agreements with ICE.

Obama is the king of the trolls.

HUH

          i never considered that. but wouldn't he be the boy-prince of trolls. i love it when cain calls him that.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 27, 2012, 03:05:52 am


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/26/506191/justice-scalia-cites-pro-slavery-laws-excluding-freed-blacks-to-justify-his-anti-immigrant-opinion/?mobile=nc

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on June 27, 2012, 03:30:46 am


ALRIGHT ALREADY,

          where's the spagging out over the arizona ruling?

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/26/506191/justice-scalia-cites-pro-slavery-laws-excluding-freed-blacks-to-justify-his-anti-immigrant-opinion/?mobile=nc

OMG.  I so needed this.  I love you forever.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2012, 06:15:04 pm
Didn't Sheriff Joe arrest a six year old for being an illegal immigrant on the same day as Obama announced that he was ordering a halt on deportations of young undocumented immigrants who do not pose a risk to national security?

Why yes, yes he did (http://www.businessinsider.com/sheriff-joe-arrests-six-year-old-girl-suspected-illegal-immigration-obama-2012-6).

Clearly that six year old was stealing American jobs.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 06:18:33 pm
Didn't Sheriff Joe arrest a six year old for being an illegal immigrant on the same day as Obama announced that he was ordering a halt on deportations of young undocumented immigrants who do not pose a risk to national security?

Why yes, yes he did (http://www.businessinsider.com/sheriff-joe-arrests-six-year-old-girl-suspected-illegal-immigration-obama-2012-6).

Clearly that six year old was stealing American jobs.

Sheriff Joe has always enjoyed putting children into the system.  I think he gets off on the panic of the parents.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2012, 06:27:11 pm
Well, that's probably the most charitable explanation for his predilection for taking children into the system, given the control freakery/sexual humiliation aspect that a lot of policing seems to have nowadays.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 06:37:09 pm
Well, that's probably the most charitable explanation for his predilection for taking children into the system, given the control freakery/sexual humiliation aspect that a lot of policing seems to have nowadays.

Sheriff Joe isn't that kind of pervert.  He gets off on raw, demonstrated power of life and death over people.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2012, 06:40:53 pm
Well I certainly hope not, for the sake of the children.  It's just my experience that people who tend to love those kind of demonstrations of power often get off on them in a sexualised way too.  Not always, but enough to suggest a general correlation.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 27, 2012, 06:43:39 pm
Well I certainly hope not, for the sake of the children.  It's just my experience that people who tend to love those kind of demonstrations of power often get off on them in a sexualised way too.  Not always, but enough to suggest a general correlation.

The idea of Joe Arpaio getting off on anything in a sexualized way is too much for my circuits to handle.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 06:44:36 pm
Well I certainly hope not, for the sake of the children.  It's just my experience that people who tend to love those kind of demonstrations of power often get off on them in a sexualised way too.  Not always, but enough to suggest a general correlation.

Oh, no argument there.  But I don't think so, in this particular case.

Sheriff Joe is a whole different ball of wax.  He's outright evil...There's no bad wiring in there, like you get with some cops, Catholic priests, or whatever.  He just likes to have people arrested & beaten.  It's not even a Hispanic thing.  He's just as much a Nazi to White people that fall into his clutches.  The illegals business is just him ensuring that he'll have an endless supply of people to fuck with in his little camp in Maricopa County.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on June 27, 2012, 06:50:15 pm
The idea of Joe Arpaio getting off on anything in a sexualized way is too much for my circuits to handle.

I think these thoughts, so you don't have to.

Oh, no argument there.  But I don't think so, in this particular case.

Sheriff Joe is a whole different ball of wax.  He's outright evil...There's no bad wiring in there, like you get with some cops, Catholic priests, or whatever.  He just likes to have people arrested & beaten.  It's not even a Hispanic thing.  He's just as much a Nazi to White people that fall into his clutches.  The illegals business is just him ensuring that he'll have an endless supply of people to fuck with in his little camp in Maricopa County.

Yeah, what you say fits with the available data.  I just thought I should throw it out there, as a possibility, and see if it had legs.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 27, 2012, 06:51:55 pm
The idea of Joe Arpaio getting off on anything in a sexualized way is too much for my circuits to handle.

I think these thoughts, so you don't have to.

Oh, no argument there.  But I don't think so, in this particular case.

Sheriff Joe is a whole different ball of wax.  He's outright evil...There's no bad wiring in there, like you get with some cops, Catholic priests, or whatever.  He just likes to have people arrested & beaten.  It's not even a Hispanic thing.  He's just as much a Nazi to White people that fall into his clutches.  The illegals business is just him ensuring that he'll have an endless supply of people to fuck with in his little camp in Maricopa County.

Yeah, what you say fits with the available data.  I just thought I should throw it out there, as a possibility, and see if it had legs.

I do not exaggerate when I say that Sheriff Joe would have made a very cheerful concentration camp commandant in Nazi Germany.  It's what he is.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 28, 2012, 01:34:34 am
The idea of Joe Arpaio getting off on anything in a sexualized way is too much for my circuits to handle.

I think these thoughts, so you don't have to.

Oh, no argument there.  But I don't think so, in this particular case.

Sheriff Joe is a whole different ball of wax.  He's outright evil...There's no bad wiring in there, like you get with some cops, Catholic priests, or whatever.  He just likes to have people arrested & beaten.  It's not even a Hispanic thing.  He's just as much a Nazi to White people that fall into his clutches.  The illegals business is just him ensuring that he'll have an endless supply of people to fuck with in his little camp in Maricopa County.

Sex or no sex, I want to puke.
Yeah, what you say fits with the available data.  I just thought I should throw it out there, as a possibility, and see if it had legs.

I do not exaggerate when I say that Sheriff Joe would have made a very cheerful concentration camp commandant in Nazi Germany.  It's what he is.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on June 30, 2012, 11:28:33 pm
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2012/06/joe_arpaio_owned_by_duke_st_ro.php
One of his facebook trolls made the Phoenix paper.  :lulz:
Bet we have better trolls here.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 01, 2012, 12:04:50 am
It's only a matter of time before someone either caps his fat, disgusting ass, or some filth he's perpetrated comes back to bite him in the ass in some other way. The sooner the better. That piece of shit needs to drown in a puddle of his own vomit.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 01, 2012, 12:14:26 am
It's only a matter of time before someone either caps his fat, disgusting ass, or some filth he's perpetrated comes back to bite him in the ass in some other way. The sooner the better. That piece of shit needs to drown in a puddle of his own vomit.

Yes.

Of course then his shitneck disciples will canonize him as a martyr. Small price to pay, though.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 01, 2012, 05:25:56 pm
It's only a matter of time before someone either caps his fat, disgusting ass, or some filth he's perpetrated comes back to bite him in the ass in some other way. The sooner the better. That piece of shit needs to drown in a puddle of his own vomit.

Yes.

Of course then his shitneck disciples will canonize him as a martyr. Small price to pay, though.

Not if, as is most likely, the filth he's perpetrated turns out to be some kind of despicable sex scandal.

It seems like every single one of these kinds of filth who get off on hurting or terrorizing other people also express their sadism sexually. It'll turn out that he's raping pregnant teenage immigrant girls or something, and then his hero-worshiping wannabe-Gestapo toadies will be so embarrassed they'll pretend he never existed.

Mark my words.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 01, 2012, 08:24:18 pm
It's only a matter of time before someone either caps his fat, disgusting ass, or some filth he's perpetrated comes back to bite him in the ass in some other way. The sooner the better. That piece of shit needs to drown in a puddle of his own vomit.

Yes.

Of course then his shitneck disciples will canonize him as a martyr. Small price to pay, though.

Not if, as is most likely, the filth he's perpetrated turns out to be some kind of despicable sex scandal.

It seems like every single one of these kinds of filth who get off on hurting or terrorizing other people also express their sadism sexually. It'll turn out that he's raping pregnant teenage immigrant girls or something, and then his hero-worshiping wannabe-Gestapo toadies will be so embarrassed they'll pretend he never existed.

Mark my words.

Damn...that's right.

July 1, 2012: Nigel called it. Remember that.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on July 01, 2012, 09:01:47 pm


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana’s illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana’s law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana’s law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state’s illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 01, 2012, 09:18:58 pm


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana’s illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana’s law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana’s law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state’s illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?

That's a good question, and it's also curious that they have calculated cost but not income, as it's well-documented that "illegal" residents bring states more income than they cost them.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on July 01, 2012, 09:21:10 pm


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana’s illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana’s law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana’s law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state’s illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?

That's a good question, and it's also curious that they have calculated cost but not income, as it's well-documented that "illegal" residents bring states more income than they cost them.

SAME THING!

          how does one track what's undocumented?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 02, 2012, 01:45:41 pm
          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

How much have perfectly legal bankers caused them?

DE'RE TAKKING YER JERRRRRBS!
\
:bankster:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Cain on July 02, 2012, 01:54:51 pm
I'm perfectly fine with a law that mandates the deportation of anyone suspected of being a banker.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 02, 2012, 10:58:19 pm


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana’s illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana’s law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana’s law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state’s illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?

That's a good question, and it's also curious that they have calculated cost but not income, as it's well-documented that "illegal" residents bring states more income than they cost them.

SAME THING!

          how does one track what's undocumented?

It's surprisingly easy to track income taxes from undocumented immigrants, for two reasons; one, the most common form of social security fraud is using a stolen number to pay taxes, and two, the IRS has a form that a surprisingly high number of undocumented resident workers voluntarily use to pay taxes with because they want to be participants in the American system. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017113852_immigtaxes29.html http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-16/news/31199931_1_residency-and-taxpaying-illegal-immigrants-taxation-and-economic-policy http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/unauthorized-immigrants-pay-taxes-too

That's the direct income; it's harder to quantify the indirect income they generate by keeping afloat certain industries that are dependent on their labor (check out the farm labor crises in Georgia and Kansas), and also by stimulating our economy by being consumers. Now that immigration flow has reversed, unless something happens to replace it we're going to start seeing some direct and unpleasant economic effects of population decline on an economy that is structured on growth.

As an aside, were you aware that, contrary to popular belief among the pundit crowd, most undocumented residents didn't get here by sneaking across the border, but came on student, travel, or work visas, and just didn't leave after they expired?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on July 02, 2012, 11:19:14 pm
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert? You yanks have some weird property laws. Over here as long as your garden isn't covered in rubbish you don't have any issues. Well, except for trees that cut out masses of light, but that's kinda understandable with the overcast nature of this island. Your neighbour has a bunch of leylandi and bang, rickets.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 02, 2012, 11:23:44 pm
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert?

America.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Elder Iptuous on July 03, 2012, 08:46:33 pm
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert?

America.

Importing your environment is good for the economy.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 03, 2012, 08:52:15 pm
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert?

America.

Importing your environment Running a sprinkler 24/7 to show you're not like those people walking is good for the economy.


There.  NOW it's fixed.

And we're against that sort of thing, by the way.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 03, 2012, 08:54:25 pm
Whoops!  Fucking edit button is right next to the quote button.

Sorry.   :oops:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 03, 2012, 08:56:56 pm
It's all good.

I'm starting to hear references to those people on bicycles too.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on July 03, 2012, 11:13:14 pm
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert?

America.
"America" - a descriptor an entire fucking retarded mindset since the Pilgrims hijacked the Mayflower
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on July 03, 2012, 11:44:48 pm
Yep.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on July 04, 2012, 12:36:22 am
I like hockey. To the point I'll actually watch it on TV. But I'm trying to figure out why you'd have a team in the desert. It's about as ridiculous as green lawns in the desert, sfaiac.

Speaking of which, the HOA dinged me $25 last week because my grass isn't green enough.

That's a bargain.  The amount of water you'd need to keep it green would run you about $90.

Move down to Tucson.  We don't have lawns.  Well, a few people do, and we laugh at them openly.

what? do they not realise that they live in a goddamn desert?

America.
"America" - a descriptor an entire fucking retarded mindset since the Pilgrims hijacked the Mayflower

they sailed from my hometown before they got to Plymouth. I think I win!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on July 06, 2012, 12:10:29 am


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana’s budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana’s illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana’s law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana’s law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state’s illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?

That's a good question, and it's also curious that they have calculated cost but not income, as it's well-documented that "illegal" residents bring states more income than they cost them.

SAME THING!

          how does one track what's undocumented?

It's surprisingly easy to track income taxes from undocumented immigrants, for two reasons; one, the most common form of social security fraud is using a stolen number to pay taxes, and two, the IRS has a form that a surprisingly high number of undocumented resident workers voluntarily use to pay taxes with because they want to be participants in the American system. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017113852_immigtaxes29.html http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-16/news/31199931_1_residency-and-taxpaying-illegal-immigrants-taxation-and-economic-policy http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/unauthorized-immigrants-pay-taxes-too

That's the direct income; it's harder to quantify the indirect income they generate by keeping afloat certain industries that are dependent on their labor (check out the farm labor crises in Georgia and Kansas), and also by stimulating our economy by being consumers. Now that immigration flow has reversed, unless something happens to replace it we're going to start seeing some direct and unpleasant economic effects of population decline on an economy that is structured on growth.

As an aside, were you aware that, contrary to popular belief among the pundit crowd, most undocumented residents didn't get here by sneaking across the border, but came on student, travel, or work visas, and just didn't leave after they expired?

THANKS, INTERWEBS DEMONESS,

          sorry it took so long for me to get to these, but every time i get to the bar where i can use their wifi, you (nigel) take over my laptop thing (THANK YOU ALTY!!! x 1000000000000000) and burn the battery out!!

ON THE

          economic end of revenue, these articles present some serious mismanagement or WTF. i still have lots of questions and we need to powow. also, as we were discussing the cause and effect occurrence of U.S. historical measures addressing immigration laws, we're experiencing one of those periods, it would seem (!?). what these articles say is that even more tax paying u.s. residents than we knew about are contributing to revenue, yet they're receiving EVEN LESS of the benefits of the average U.S. citizen. which is grounds for a revolution itself. what none of these articles focus on, is the fact that everyone really is stressing out about jobs and work availability, yet somewhere in that gap between the I.R.S. and all the rest of federal f$ckery, we have no foundational viewpoint for production/ real jobs vs. people needing them. those "undocumented" workers are even more voices silenced about how the feds are using that revenue.

THESE ARTICLES

          however, don't tell me how indiana is collecting this info, if in fact the I.R.S. is somehow above sharing their revenue info outside of their department interest.

SO WHERE

          on the one hand, i still have lots of questions, on the other, i feel i need a typewriter with surface to air missile capability.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 06, 2012, 07:38:06 am
YOU ARE WELCOME

OMG I AM GOING TO BED NOW SEE YOU TOMORROW.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on July 08, 2012, 08:13:35 am
Arizona's Only Latino Governor Detained by Border Patrol (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/07/arizonas-only-latino-governor-detained-by-the-border-patrol/?fb_comment_id=fbc_407352795967786_4583426_407363269300072)
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 08, 2012, 07:24:19 pm
Arizona's Only Latino Governor Detained by Border Patrol (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/07/arizonas-only-latino-governor-detained-by-the-border-patrol/?fb_comment_id=fbc_407352795967786_4583426_407363269300072)

WOWWWWWWWWW.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on July 08, 2012, 11:23:58 pm


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on July 08, 2012, 11:30:16 pm
Arizona's Only Latino Governor Detained by Border Patrol (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/07/arizonas-only-latino-governor-detained-by-the-border-patrol/?fb_comment_id=fbc_407352795967786_4583426_407363269300072)

WOWWWWWWWWW.

So what happens now? Ritual purge, a few guys fired then business as usual?  :x

Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on July 09, 2012, 12:56:11 am
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: E.O.T. on July 09, 2012, 01:08:57 am
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.

I WANT TO MARRY HER

          because i'm convinced she's actually quentin crisp pulling off one of the world's top five trolls, successfully. and she's beautiful. which gives quentin away, right there.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 09, 2012, 01:32:59 am
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.

I WANT TO MARRY HER

          because i'm convinced she's actually quentin crisp pulling off one of the world's top five trolls, successfully. and she's beautiful. which gives quentin away, right there.

 :lulz: That certainly makes me view her in a different light.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: inode_buddha on July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 22, 2012, 11:35:18 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 23, 2012, 12:10:08 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:

Neither.  He's pandering to the Terrified White People Party.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: inode_buddha on July 23, 2012, 02:53:22 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:

Unfortunately I know of many who would believe him regardless. The sort of people who will refuse to believe the evidence no matter what -"there must be something wrong with it" and the logical fallacies of "purity" etc etc... :vom:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 26, 2012, 06:01:44 pm
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 26, 2012, 06:39:03 pm
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

I can't even feel the horror in horrormirth anymore.
:lulz:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2012, 01:35:43 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:54:24 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2012, 01:59:08 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: SuuCal on August 27, 2012, 03:30:38 am
So, in theory, because life begins with ovulation and not conception, any woman having her natural menses would be considered having an abortion under this law. Still legal, I mean, if you were on time and shedding your lining 2 weeks post-ovulation, but STILL.

Curious as to how this would effect hormonal BCPs that stop ovulation.

Also: WTFARIZONA
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on August 27, 2012, 03:50:36 am
So, in theory, because life begins with ovulation and not conception, any woman having her natural menses would be considered having an abortion under this law. Still legal, I mean, if you were on time and shedding your lining 2 weeks post-ovulation, but STILL.

Curious as to how this would effect hormonal BCPs that stop ovulation.

Also: WTFARIZONA

Not quite...

See, if you're considered pregnant, AND they manage to outlaw abortion, ANY ACTION you take which might lead to miscarrying a baby, unless you're actively on your period, AND willing to prove it on the spot, is attempted murder.  So... unless you're willing to let the bartender check your underpants, you're done drinking.  Don't even THINK about martial arts. 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Juana Go? on August 27, 2012, 04:16:23 am
:horrormirth:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 27, 2012, 04:48:34 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

Yeah, it's goddamn special. As fuck.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 27, 2012, 04:49:25 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

If I were in Arizona, I would probably call that feeling "shock".
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 27, 2012, 04:49:47 am
How are you enjoying your pregnancy?
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 27, 2012, 04:51:03 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.

Shhh, little lady... don't say things like that, you'll alienate the menfolk!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Luna on August 27, 2012, 04:56:57 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.

Shhh, little lady... don't say things like that, you'll alienate the menfolk!

Too true.  All you have to do is accept that God made you the way you are, an incubator with the wonderful ability to fetch a damn sammich and open beer for the men tasked with putting up with your shit, you'll be much happier.  :vom:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 27, 2012, 10:50:40 am
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.

Shhh, little lady... don't say things like that, you'll alienate the menfolk!

:( for womens in Arizona.


I'm so so so so so glad I never moved there.   Freeky was there much in the way of protest and activism leading up to this? 
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:52:03 pm
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.

Shhh, little lady... don't say things like that, you'll alienate the menfolk!

:( for womens in Arizona.


I'm so so so so so glad I never moved there.   Freeky was there much in the way of protest and activism leading up to this?

No.  Unless you're asking about the right wing freaks.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 02:18:42 pm
Oh, and...SUCK IT, FLORIDA!  WE OWN THIS GAME!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2012, 04:42:27 pm
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultural belief set.  It is no longer something you COULDN'T expect.

Yeah, I guess so. 

I kind of feel like crying, but it's mostly out of resignation over not being a legal person.

Shhh, little lady... don't say things like that, you'll alienate the menfolk!

:( for womens in Arizona.
I'm so so so so so glad I never moved there.   Freeky was there much in the way of protest and activism leading up to this?

No. Even my lukewarm attempts at posting all the articles I found to Facebook didnt raise any kind of reaction. I think nobody cares anymore, except people it isn't happening to.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2012, 04:43:15 pm
How are you enjoying your pregnancy?

I lost the baby. :cry:
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 27, 2012, 04:57:27 pm
How are you enjoying your pregnancy?

I lost the baby. :cry:

If I were in Arizona, I'd be having a miscarriage right now! I've had approximately 312 "Arizona miscarriages" since my first one at age 13.

Not to mention that day after tomorrow I'm having a pre-emptive abortion that will abort all of my potential fetuses every month forever.

If I were in Arizona I would probably have to be jailed for deliberately pre-emptively aborting my fetus by not getting pregnant. It's a good thing we have responsible lawmakers looking out for teh babbys!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 27, 2012, 05:13:04 pm
How are you enjoying your pregnancy?

I lost the baby. :cry:

If I were in Arizona, I'd be having a miscarriage right now! I've had approximately 312 "Arizona miscarriages" since my first one at age 13.

Not to mention that day after tomorrow I'm having a pre-emptive abortion that will abort all of my potential fetuses every month forever.

If I were in Arizona I would probably have to be jailed for deliberately pre-emptively aborting my fetus by not getting pregnant. It's a good thing we have responsible lawmakers looking out for teh babbys!

I know you hate me but my wife thinks that "Arizona Miscarriage" is the best and most hilarious possible term for her period, and I'd like to thank you for bringing a smile to her face during this trying time.
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: Freeky on August 27, 2012, 05:33:13 pm
How are you enjoying your pregnancy?

I lost the baby. :cry:

If I were in Arizona, I'd be having a miscarriage right now! I've had approximately 312 "Arizona miscarriages" since my first one at age 13.

Not to mention that day after tomorrow I'm having a pre-emptive abortion that will abort all of my potential fetuses every month forever.

If I were in Arizona I would probably have to be jailed for deliberately pre-emptively aborting my fetus by not getting pregnant. It's a good thing we have responsible lawmakers looking out for teh babbys!

Yes indeed! Thank goodness for our wise lawmakers who know what is best for us! And shame ob you, you harlot, for preemptively aborting all of your future fetuses. You're a murderer, that's what you are!
Title: Re: UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 05:48:34 pm
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

:kingmeh:  Similarly to v3x, I can't feel the horror anymore.  But there's no mirth in there, either.

Of course you can't feel horror.  This is now part of the mainstream cultura