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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: SadKingBilly on September 02, 2015, 09:22:25 pm

Title: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: SadKingBilly on September 02, 2015, 09:22:25 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen

Members of the jury

As a new poster, I have to start with a simple question: what ever happened to the global counter culture?

I've just finished reading The Prankster and the Conspiracy, where Kerry Thornley is described as the inspiration behind the 'counter culture'

It is with great regret that I was not alive in the late 60's to experience the energy and spirit that existed in those days

Yet to me, the vibes that fuelled such thought is needed today more than ever. Having had to force a career in and around the corporate world for the last 15 years, I've been exposed to a world lacking in character, humour, in fact even basic humanity. A world of conformity, ass kissing, and a shameful (read slavish) pursuit of profit - even at the harm of 'progression'

I know that communities of thought exist around the world dedicated to a different phase of thought (though I have generally been unlucky enough to find one), and have dabbled with the left and socialist parties.

All seem to be devoid of a practical spark. All seen, ultimately, resigned to their fate.

Of course technology is both a saviour and a curse. On the one hand, it's a wonderful medium for meeting like minded individuals. On the other, the most complete tool for monitoring undesirables.

So, with the forces of order seemingly triumphant, I humbly ask once again - what ever happened to the counter culture?

Does it exist, and where can one sign up

Yours in frilly underpants

Sad King Billy
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2015, 09:45:23 pm

As a new poster, I have to start with a simple question: what ever happened to the global counter culture?

It's up for sale on eBay.  Cheap.


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It is with great regret that I was not alive in the late 60's to experience the energy and spirit that existed in those days

That happened for about 6 months.  In one city.  Then it turned into a dismal exercise in trying to afford drugs with no job, from coast to coast.  And nobody took a bath from 1965-1972.

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Yet to me, the vibes that fuelled such thought is needed today more than ever. Having had to force a career in and around the corporate world for the last 15 years, I've been exposed to a world lacking in character, humour, in fact even basic humanity. A world of conformity, ass kissing, and a shameful (read slavish) pursuit of profit - even at the harm of 'progression'

You are missing a lot of potential for cheap laughs, then.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 02, 2015, 09:46:11 pm
If you want a counterculture, you have to go make one.  It's really that simple.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: LMNO on September 02, 2015, 11:47:55 pm
Poppycock.


You, sir, need SATURDAY NIGHT.

More specifically, you need to find a GAY BAR.

More more specifically, you need a TEA DANCE.

More more more specifically, you need to find BEARS TEA.











Yaas, queen.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 12:04:50 am
What he said.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Meunster on September 03, 2015, 01:07:59 am
in all honesty. Grey face has one. Everyone is so cerias now and days

But jokingly. If you're not wearing a silly hat. You're part of the problem.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: rong on September 03, 2015, 01:34:42 am
this is the new counter culture

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/cc947e90a29bea891b9f243767f104d2/tumblr_mpvik7WY3f1s2cq9po1_500.gif)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Meunster on September 03, 2015, 01:43:36 am
this is the new counter culture

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/cc947e90a29bea891b9f243767f104d2/tumblr_mpvik7WY3f1s2cq9po1_500.gif)

well more this..
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nvYyGTmcP80/hqdefault.jpg)

and sometimes this...
(http://www.ontopmag.com/images/ArticleImages/chicago_pride_parade_2012.jpg)

hell sometimes it could even be this...
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2010/1003/360_tea_baggers_va_0309.jpg)

and on the internet it's this...
(http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Actual+anonymous+_caa0e1de41e1427e22d924f82ba45015.jpg)

but in real life, without politics, or false pretenses, spooks, or bullshit. it kinda looks like. Well...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Mandel_zoom_00_mandelbrot_set.jpg)
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 03:12:50 am
You guys are fucked.
 
This is the new counterculture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqeXSYc8nE
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 03:15:00 am
in all honesty. Grey face has one. Everyone is so cerias now and days

But jokingly. If you're not wearing a silly hat. You're part of the problem.

While you're giggling and attracting all kinds of attention, us straight-faced doom & gloom types are fucking up every toilet in the building.  And you'll get blamed because we look normal.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 03, 2015, 03:35:39 am
in all honesty. Grey face has one. Everyone is so cerias now and days

But jokingly. If you're not wearing a silly hat. You're part of the problem.

While you're giggling and attracting all kinds of attention, us straight-faced doom & gloom types are fucking up every toilet in the building.  And you'll get blamed because we look normal.
:lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.

If you want a counterculture, you have to go make one.  It's really that simple.

Newsfeed, meme, whatever, this is too true to not be a thing of some sort!
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 03:37:13 am

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 03, 2015, 03:40:03 am
Poppycock.


You, sir, need SATURDAY NIGHT.

More specifically, you need to find a GAY BAR.

More more specifically, you need a TEA DANCE.

More more more specifically, you need to find BEARS TEA.











Yaas, queen.

These got fuzzy for me at TEA DANCE.

I fear I have never truly understood the concept of THE GAY BAR either. I mean I can get down and have a good time at a gay bar, but I figure this means something more.  I just never took occasion to ask before.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 03, 2015, 03:42:15 am

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.

How about an XP level between 1 and 20? None of that "mythic" bs. 20 being as close to transcendent godhood as a mortal gets.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 03:51:55 am

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.

How about an XP level between 1 and 20? None of that "mythic" bs. 20 being as close to transcendent godhood as a mortal gets.

4th.  We got level-draining lice in 2007.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 03:53:04 am


These got fuzzy for me at TEA DANCE.

I fear I have never truly understood the concept of THE GAY BAR either. I mean I can get down and have a good time at a gay bar, but I figure this means something more.  I just never took occasion to ask before.

The Gay Bar is merely LMNO's expression of Saturday Night™.  As far as anyone knows.  Sometimes I suspect that LMNO isn't even his real name.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 03, 2015, 04:02:11 am

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.

How about an XP level between 1 and 20? None of that "mythic" bs. 20 being as close to transcendent godhood as a mortal gets.

4th.  We got level-draining lice in 2007.

 :sad:
The ST is clearly a dick,
and her name is Eris.


Way, WAY before I first got here it seems that there was a civil war @ pd I hear occasional reference to. What was the basic argument?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 04:55:31 am

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.

How about an XP level between 1 and 20? None of that "mythic" bs. 20 being as close to transcendent godhood as a mortal gets.

4th.  We got level-draining lice in 2007.

 :sad:
The ST is clearly a dick,
and her name is Eris.


Way, WAY before I first got here it seems that there was a civil war @ pd I hear occasional reference to. What was the basic argument?

The board was run by the owner, Lauren, and a few of her pals.  They had a secret mod page (Cain spotted this when he realized that the sum of the sub-forum's posts didn't match up the board's total posts), and they used it to actively fuck with the non-pinealists.  One guy, Hugh, actually fished into the database to read people's PMs, and then rat them out to people with edited versions of what was actually said.

Somewhere along the line, I got banned for being "too chaotic".  A few members raised hell, and I was readmitted.

This went on for about two years, and the board shrank from 200 regular users to about 6, as we all bailed out (the subforum "Or Kill Me" was a ghetto for ranting in, so we wouldn't get in the way of the deep discussions about cookies & pie) except for harrassing the admins.  ECH hung around and schemed, and when Lauren finally had enough, she gave him the board.  Most of the regulars came back, and Hugh was exiled to a Pagan board, where he babbled the sort of nonsense he preached here, to about 6 people, before inadvertently marrying a Filippino post-op transgendered lady and then going nuts and being locked up when he found out (no shit, actually happened).

The other mods and Eldora (the less said about her, the better) went off to Eris Bar & Grill, where they suffocated in their own poop.

The board recovered until FB came along and drained all the members away. 

So we replaced an evil dicatatorship with a vile dictatorship.  Which is something.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Malachite on September 03, 2015, 06:27:36 am
The counter-culture that you can find is not the true counter-culture.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 03, 2015, 04:43:43 pm

 :lulz:
Don't even have to do the dirty job of setting 'em up. Just KYFMS, fix your GRIN in place and look outraged and shocked, SHOCKED about the toilet problem and grateful about how fortunate you were to get a chance to go before "that bizarre incident" occurred.


We've been doing this a very long time.  I won't say precisely how long, because LMNO will have fits.

How about an XP level between 1 and 20? None of that "mythic" bs. 20 being as close to transcendent godhood as a mortal gets.

4th.  We got level-draining lice in 2007.

 :sad:
The ST is clearly a dick,
and her name is Eris.


Way, WAY before I first got here it seems that there was a civil war @ pd I hear occasional reference to. What was the basic argument?

The board was run by the owner, Lauren, and a few of her pals.  They had a secret mod page (Cain spotted this when he realized that the sum of the sub-forum's posts didn't match up the board's total posts), and they used it to actively fuck with the non-pinealists.  One guy, Hugh, actually fished into the database to read people's PMs, and then rat them out to people with edited versions of what was actually said.

Somewhere along the line, I got banned for being "too chaotic".  A few members raised hell, and I was readmitted.

This went on for about two years, and the board shrank from 200 regular users to about 6, as we all bailed out (the subforum "Or Kill Me" was a ghetto for ranting in, so we wouldn't get in the way of the deep discussions about cookies & pie) except for harrassing the admins.  ECH hung around and schemed, and when Lauren finally had enough, she gave him the board.  Most of the regulars came back, and Hugh was exiled to a Pagan board, where he babbled the sort of nonsense he preached here, to about 6 people, before inadvertently marrying a Filippino post-op transgendered lady and then going nuts and being locked up when he found out (no shit, actually happened).

The other mods and Eldora (the less said about her, the better) went off to Eris Bar & Grill, where they suffocated in their own poop.

The board recovered until FB came along and drained all the members away. 

So we replaced an evil dicatatorship with a vile dictatorship.  Which is something.

Ok that's about what I pieced together from passing references here and there. Thanks for the clear summary!

So I get the FB drawing away members. It's like the dark side of the force: quicker, easier, more seductive.. unlimited sock puppets on one IP addy. I've been disenchanted with "FB Disco" for some time now. By comparison if this place is a glass of fresh squeezed OJ then that shit is like 5gal of cheap imitation Tang with just a little bit of actual shit floating in it.

Got more to say, but tempus fugit 'an stuff. Gotta get my ass in gear and go punch that clock.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 05:30:31 pm
The counter-culture that you can find is not the true counter-culture.

The jabber you get out of a fortune cookie is not the true jabber.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: SadKingBilly on September 03, 2015, 09:52:07 pm
Interesting comments

So give me hope for where Discordia is mutating...

Others remain caught up regurgitating tired cliches such as:

The counter-culture that you can find is not the true counter-culture.

Extend loyalty to individuals, but never organizations.

What seems clear to me at this present time is that yes, the individual can choose to tune in and drop out etc. That's a fine and dandy decision. You, me, anyone can choose to trust or not trust, run with friends, or alone.

But to tie yourself up with points of view such as "you want a counter-culture - go start one" is missing the point a little

As for denying any form of collaboration or confederacy - a convenient way out if truth be told

But how will that help the world being crafted for my kids...

Kesey didn't work alone - and neither should the rest of us

I release you...

Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 03, 2015, 09:54:52 pm
Interesting comments

So give me hope for where Discordia is mutating...

Others remain caught up regurgitating tired cliches such as <meaningful communication ends here>

Whatever, dude.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Meunster on September 04, 2015, 05:02:10 am
Interesting comments

So give me hope for where Discordia is mutating...

Others remain caught up regurgitating tired cliches such as:

The counter-culture that you can find is not the true counter-culture.

Extend loyalty to individuals, but never organizations.

What seems clear to me at this present time is that yes, the individual can choose to tune in and drop out etc. That's a fine and dandy decision. You, me, anyone can choose to trust or not trust, run with friends, or alone.

But to tie yourself up with points of view such as "you want a counter-culture - go start one" is missing the point a little

As for denying any form of collaboration or confederacy - a convenient way out if truth be told

But how will that help the world being crafted for my kids...

Kesey didn't work alone - and neither should the rest of us

I release you...


In my humble opinion. We can't collaborate, at least not in any meaningful way. It's a group founded on the principle of chaos. We are reactionaries to order. Everyone can tolerate so much order in their life. Some more than others, which is why there are a select few who turn to chaos based groups.

We are a reaction to the times. Until there is some great unrest like people saw in the 60's, Discordianism will be a ghost. Even with some great unrest, we are the the middle of a ven diagram of people who want to change shit violently and people who want to change shit, not in the way that is presented to them, but in a fringe legal way. Of course there will always be the Picaresque aspires who stick around, but getting them to collaborate is a shit show.

But then again, that is just my view of the world, yours is 99% different.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 04, 2015, 01:41:21 pm
Monoculture is the new counter culture
Cliche is the new truth
Pretentious shit-wits
will always be just that
And plentiful
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Telarus on September 20, 2015, 10:48:29 pm
..We are reactionaries to order. Everyone can tolerate so much order in their life. Some more than others, which is why there are a select few who turn to chaos based groups.

False (and you have fallen for the Eristic Illusion). Chaos != Disorder.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 21, 2015, 12:12:56 am
..We are reactionaries to order. Everyone can tolerate so much order in their life. Some more than others, which is why there are a select few who turn to chaos based groups.

False (and you have fallen for the Eristic Illusion). Chaos != Disorder.

 :lulz:
But... but... that's what the movies, video games, and comic books that inform their worldviews say! THAT SHIT HAS TO BE RIGHT, right?  :fnord:
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Ilikeapples on October 28, 2016, 10:55:03 am
*commin in half a year later this shit died* The real question is what happend to the counter of counter culture?
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: LMNO on October 28, 2016, 01:03:26 pm
Repossessed due to lack of funds.  That counter was later installed at Punks-R-Us, who pay their bills on time.
Title: Re: What ever happened to the counter-culture?
Post by: Ziegejunge on October 28, 2016, 06:17:50 pm
*commin in half a year later this shit died* The real question is what happend to the counter of counter culture?

Found him:

(https://horrorpediadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/1778314-png.jpeg)