Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: Goddess Eris on December 17, 2016, 07:19:49 pm

Title: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Goddess Eris on December 17, 2016, 07:19:49 pm
My least favorite but most heavily imprinted trip in this lifetime is the paranoia trip! Ya Goddess got PTSD and my Obama appointed counselor doesn't know the first thing about the Eight Circuits. What's a gyal to do??!

ITT post your personal best methods for kicking the trip
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Junkenstein on December 17, 2016, 07:22:40 pm
The soothing voice of Robert sapolsky.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Goddess Eris on December 17, 2016, 11:09:39 pm
The soothing voice of Robert sapolsky.

Seriously.
Thanks, never heard of him but I'll check out his work!


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Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 17, 2016, 11:45:31 pm
Become your own conspiracy.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Sung Low on December 18, 2016, 03:56:11 am
Listen to Minor Threat.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Sung Low on December 18, 2016, 04:36:27 am
and Yoga,

they're more lost you are.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on December 18, 2016, 11:49:17 am
Listen to Minor Threat.

and Yoga,


Simultaneously?!
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Salty on December 18, 2016, 05:36:19 pm
I don't really have a method for addressing this except to quit the booze and take as much quiet alone time as I need. It's good to remember that most people don't want to hurt you. Kinda hard when people you care about do so.

I struggle with this.

Weed helps in some ways, makes it worse in others.

Calm music is good. Anything that reminds me how pleasant the world can be, given the chance.

Playing an instrument helps as well.

Stability and routine are paramount, and weeding out the people who aren't good for you in that way.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Freeky on December 19, 2016, 09:11:51 pm
This guy's (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzPXprvl5Y-Sf0g4vX-m6g) innocence and love for humanity and stuff is a balm to my bruised, battered soul.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Ziegejunge on December 19, 2016, 11:24:20 pm
If you have access to a doggie and/or a friendly cat, make some lap-time with them. This helps me, personally, to the point that my wife is suggesting I look into registering one of our dogs as an emotional support animal. I don't know if I'll go that far, but both our dogs are dedicated lap dogs and my anxiety levels have diminished considerably since adding them to the family.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Faust on December 19, 2016, 11:31:32 pm
Sounds like the you have the first step down, when I'm fine, I know it's just a silly fault of the mind. When I get paranoid no one can convince me otherwise even if they point it out to me in detail.

So yeah that's not really advice as I have no idea.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2016, 03:16:13 am
The soothing voice of Robert sapolsky.

Seriously.

It is really amazing how pleasant he is to listen to. His voice just sort of says "Hey, everything's going to be OK" even when he's talking about how much we've fucked ourselves.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 20, 2016, 03:18:54 am
What helps me is engaging my mind in thinking about something difficult and interesting.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Sung Low on December 20, 2016, 04:06:23 am
I reiterate to myself that I am good and that I do share genuine compassion with other people.

They would have you be afraid and fearful because they are afraid and fearful. There's always going to be somebody on top of them, the only person on top of you is you.

Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: LuciferX on December 20, 2016, 08:41:33 am
Depending on the angle, maybe I'd wait to take more, and then reprint when I'm ready.  I'd like to remind myself that my mind is not as fragile as it's pretending to be.  Then, if possible, slowly transition the pattern into understanding it as a particularly irritating koan.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on December 20, 2016, 02:48:33 pm
I reiterate to myself that I am good and that I do share genuine compassion with other people.

They would have you be afraid and fearful because they are afraid and fearful. There's always going to be somebody on top of them, the only person on top of you is you.
Sic
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: NeonWytch on December 20, 2016, 09:32:04 pm
I normally put on a good podcast (If I may suggest, these good old talkboys over at https://soundcloud.com/coolgamesinc ) and plunge into some kind of creative project, whether that's drawing, or learning cad software, or making shitty, shitty, photoshop edits of the people I love and care about.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: axod on December 20, 2016, 11:32:53 pm
If the weather ain't inclement, forest bathing.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: LuciferX on April 23, 2017, 06:34:47 am
That can cut both ways, with maejikque being what you make of it. Instead of providing a conditioned response that attempts to subvert it's cause, simply identifying a thought pattern as paranoid can interrupt it's connexion to the subconscious. If you want, interpret the process as "getting to know" your deamons. It works besser than banishment. Too confrontational that is.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 23, 2017, 06:47:23 am
The only mahjgickque I need is the realization that, even if They are out to get me, they have had a half a century do try it and have not succeeded.  So either they aren't really out to get me, or they're so incompetent that they may as well not be.

On a social level, I just recognize that a friend is just someone who has not yet had sufficient motivation to fuck you over.  That's not paranoia, because paranoia is a state of delusion, and the fact is that everyone has their price.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: Junkenstein on April 23, 2017, 09:31:59 pm
The only mahjgickque I need is the realization that, even if They are out to get me, they have had a half a century do try it and have not succeeded.  So either they aren't really out to get me, or they're so incompetent that they may as well not be.

On a social level, I just recognize that a friend is just someone who has not yet had sufficient motivation to fuck you over.  That's not paranoia, because paranoia is a state of delusion, and the fact is that everyone has their price.

That first part is both the reason I can sleep at all and also why I factor "police interfering" into travel of any significant distance. It's pleasant when it's not needed but I'm pretty accustomed to it now.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: LuciferX on April 24, 2017, 07:19:48 am
The only mahjgickque I need is the realization that, even if They are out to get me, they have had a half a century do try it and have not succeeded.  So either they aren't really out to get me, or they're so incompetent that they may as well not be.

On a social level, I just recognize that a friend is just someone who has not yet had sufficient motivation to fuck you over.  That's not paranoia, because paranoia is a state of delusion, and the fact is that everyone has their price.

That first part is both the reason I can sleep at all and also why I factor "police interfering" into travel of any significant distance. It's pleasant when it's not needed but I'm pretty accustomed to it now.

It's like it must feel to know how much more than cost the compromised are worth.
Title: Re: Kicking the Paranoia Trip
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 25, 2017, 02:07:05 am
The only mahjgickque I need is the realization that, even if They are out to get me, they have had a half a century do try it and have not succeeded.  So either they aren't really out to get me, or they're so incompetent that they may as well not be.

On a social level, I just recognize that a friend is just someone who has not yet had sufficient motivation to fuck you over.  That's not paranoia, because paranoia is a state of delusion, and the fact is that everyone has their price.

That first part is both the reason I can sleep at all and also why I factor "police interfering" into travel of any significant distance. It's pleasant when it's not needed but I'm pretty accustomed to it now.

I am a white male in Arizona, so I don't have to worry about that unless I do something truly grotesque.  Not even kidding.  If I was brown, I would have to budget the same amount as you do plus maybe 10 years in the joint somewhere in the middle.