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Title: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 05:31:23 pm
Hey all,
In Pikeville/Prestonburg, Kentucky, there will be a rally on April 29th in order to recruit white nationalists/neo-Nazis to the Traditional Workers Party and a National Slcialist group. I live in the region and will be attending not in support of the rally. These people are not from the region and are coming to recruit severely economically depressed and desperate people to join their cause.
From what I gather, the locals are not happy this is happening. There are efforts underway to stop this event from happening, but these efforts will likely be unsuccessful as the rally is to take place at a reserved public park on April 28th, and a march in the streets will take place the next day. Both areas are protected free speech zones.
I plan on attending the 29th to counter their presence on the streets of Pikeville, and I don't think I'll be alone. So, what I'm asking is:
1) Are there any discordians or erisian sympathizers in the region of eastern Kentucky, Louisville, Lexington, northeastern Tennessee, southern West Virginia, or the western area of Virginia who would be willing to attend and help prevent groups like this from establishing an open foothold in our backyards?
2) If you are not able to attend, what are some suggestions you have for those that are going? Do you have any fun ideas for matching hats (not Phrygian caps pls), what about an excellent poster design to reallly stick it to those militant greyfaces?

https://www.facebook.com/TraditionalistWorkerParty/posts/1618166391533120:0 (https://www.facebook.com/TraditionalistWorkerParty/posts/1618166391533120:0)
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 09, 2017, 05:41:11 pm
I'm not local and can't make a roadtrip of that magnitude, but I have a lot of experience in the poster/flyer/yelling at buildings department.

First question, of course, is whether you have some folks together already or can recruit a group to go inside with you.

Are you planning on infiltrating and then revealing? Are you planning on doing a counter-event both days with lots of signs and shouting?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 06:12:38 pm
I'm not local and can't make a roadtrip of that magnitude, but I have a lot of experience in the poster/flyer/yelling at buildings department.

First question, of course, is whether you have some folks together already or can recruit a group to go inside with you.

Are you planning on infiltrating and then revealing? Are you planning on doing a counter-event both days with lots of signs and shouting?

So it's a two day event, and the first day is a private recruitment day. They have rented out space in a park and are apparently charging a $30 fee to get in and participate in their rally, speakers, etc, so I'm not sure how easy infiltration would be with a large group. If I was going to infiltrate, I would definitely want a group, maybe 5+, so we're not in any danger. How would you suggest infiltrating, and to what purpose?

I'm certainly not going alone. Though I am not sure of specifics yet, I do know several people who are fucking livid this is taking place and who I have participated with in protests before. This has also garnered a lot of attention in the local news, and I believe there is already a counter rally being planned which will include quite boring things like speakers and local bands.
I'm sort of wondering about how to make the counter-event really raucous and not some tepid pow-wow while also having a fun time full of miscegenation, homosexuality, and other "offensive" activities. Also, avoiding violence would probably be nice too.
If you have any poster ideas or anything saved that is discordian or anti-nazi/fascist I would be grateful for your sharing. 
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 09, 2017, 06:49:15 pm
If you were to infiltrate, you'd want to have small (regular paper size) signs with a simple image or slogan printed on it. You'd all arrive separately and sit/stand reasonably far apart, and one by one disrupt whatever's going on by displaying the signs and yelling something three-word-chant-y ("No Nazis Here," "Nazi-Free Kentucky," "You All Suck," etc.). Alternatively, you could infiltrate with a camera and dox the shit out of everyone there. Kentucky is a one-party state, meaning it is legal for you to record conversations.

For poster construction! I really like vinyl stick-on letters (the ones from Chartpak are great, but anything large will work) because it solves both the "ugh I can't write neatly" and the "what if it rains?" problems. Use posterboard if you can, cardboard if you can't. Foamcore is better than either but a little pricey. If you go with markers, get the fattest fucking markers you can. I'll dig up some old photos for examples on "good poster" vs "bad poster," but the short version is to limit the content and stay on target.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 09, 2017, 07:17:55 pm
I'm a little nervous about infiltration. The Traditionalist Workers Party and the affiliated groups represented there are borderline paramilitary.
I don't think this will be like the whiny internet troll Richard Spencer type of rally where internet dweebs come out from their basements to see what their fellow hate spewers look like.
From what I gather these people are very serious and potentially dangerous. Given that this is taking place in far eastern Kentucky in an impoverished community, I doubt police presence will be very strong if tensions to rise or if a single person becomes a target after disrupting an event.
Matthew Heimbach is a leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party and is currently being sued for battery for physically harassing a black woman at a Trump rally. He will be there likely leading the group and is even distinguished enough to earn his own page on Southern Poverty Law Center's website. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/matthew-heimbach
I'm not opposed to infiltrating, but I am concerned about being isolated among radical neo-nazis.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 09, 2017, 08:23:08 pm
Yeah in that case disruptive infiltration is not a great idea.

So, I grabbed some examples of protest signs to give some basic bounds on what makes a bad sign:
This (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Anonymous_@_Million_Mask_March,_Boise_ID-_Nov_5,_2013-_Protest_rally_99%25_anon_Guy_Fawkes_sign_occupy_2013-11-13_08-23.jpg) is bad because 1) creases in your cardboard are seriously amateur hour 2) too many words 3) too small words 4) poor hand drawing of symbols 5) scribbly letters due to thin marker.
This (http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/2/0/8/8/2/1/i/1/6/0/p-large/IMG_4129.JPG)is bad because 1) too many words 2) too small words 3) scribbly letters due to small marker 4) confusing message.
This (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/06/article-2488128-1936A1D300000578-35_634x522.jpg) is bad because 1) too many words 2) too small words 3) scribbly letters due to small marker 4) confusing message.
This (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/06/article-2488128-1936A1D300000578-35_634x522.jpg) is better than the first two, but could still use improvement. 1) Written on paper, get some damn posterboard 2) still too long 3) letters are much more legible (yay CRUISE CONTROL) but still would benefit from a thicker marker.
This (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/40/ae/d4/40aed4fba5c61413c6bc4258d9b30f9b.jpg) is an iconic sign for a reason. Big, thick block letters, short phrase, easy to remember. The only problem is that the message is a little confusing. Still, this is gold standard on the design front.
This (https://whyweprotest.net/attachments/anonymous-skepchick-jpg.61066/) is another good sign. It's made from layered foamcore (the black in front has been cut out to reveal the red where the letters are) which means it's super durable and good for multiple events. Short phrases, totally on target message, the only possible complaint is on the legibility for the bottom lines. Red on black isn't easy to read from a car.
Which brings us to this (http://orig07.deviantart.net/1b97/f/2008/087/8/9/anonymous_and_scientology_01_by_wrote_off_the_world.png). Four words, clearly conveys the message, easy to read from far away, easy to carry, easy to make. Even with this guy's shitty handwriting, you immediately know what is up and which side he's on. Be this guy.

Which brings us to sign ideas!

MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT NAZIS
WE ARE NOT NAZIS
NAZIS NOT WELCOME
WHITE does not mean RIGHT
REDNECK* > NAZI
REDNECK* FOREVER / NAZIS NEVER
WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS
WE ARE AMERICA
NAZIS ARE NEVER THE SOLUTION

*insert the correct self-deprecating local slang as needed, in Boston we would go with "Masshole"
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 10, 2017, 03:29:01 am
I mentioned to my girlfriend about infiltrating the training and seminar portion of the neo-nazi hate fest and she gave me a grave look, so I think that part is a no go for me (and because I'm slightly intimidated to be isolated with actual factual skinheads).
However! I do appreciate your other kind suggestions! I've made signs before, and I've waved them and shouted at people while holding them, but I've never really thought about the anatomy of a sign or what makes one catchy, so your thoughts are very helpful!  :)

So I guess the next logical question is, obviously, given that there is a neo-nazi gathering within reasonable travel distance, and given the recent uproar with punching Richard Spencer, is it ok to punch nazis?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 10, 2017, 03:53:18 am
Just cleaned up the mess from my earlier post! I am terrible at formatting sometimes.

I am in the "always punch nazis" camp. I, however, am not your girlfriend, doctor, lawyer, or next of kin.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 10, 2017, 04:39:16 am
I mentioned to my girlfriend about infiltrating the training and seminar portion of the neo-nazi hate fest and she gave me a grave look, so I think that part is a no go for me (and because I'm slightly intimidated to be isolated with actual factual skinheads).
However! I do appreciate your other kind suggestions! I've made signs before, and I've waved them and shouted at people while holding them, but I've never really thought about the anatomy of a sign or what makes one catchy, so your thoughts are very helpful!  :)

So I guess the next logical question is, obviously, given that there is a neo-nazi gathering within reasonable travel distance, and given the recent uproar with punching Richard Spencer, is it ok to punch nazis?

It's sort of a moral imperative.

If you are not the punchy type, find some other way to make them miserable.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 10, 2017, 05:14:48 am
I like the idea of going and playing along while hiding a video camera of some kind and getting as many faces in frame as you can manage without getting caught. Later, do horrible shit like print out photos of people and post them on light poles with phrases like "HAVE YOU SEEN MY PET NAZI" or "THIS MAN IS A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT" "WANTED FOR THOUGHTCRIME" or something. Also online, of course. At the very least, the video could be edited into a documentary hit piece that has a relatively good chance of going viral, especially if you manage to catch them saying good things about Trump.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 10, 2017, 05:20:38 am
especially if you manage to catch them saying good things about Trump.

Now this might actually be worth paying $30 and pretending to be a really shy and quiet nazi all day while maybe fearing I don't get outed and potentially hurt in the isolated mountains of Eastern Kentucky.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 10, 2017, 12:16:23 pm
I mentioned to my girlfriend about infiltrating the training and seminar portion of the neo-nazi hate fest and she gave me a grave look, so I think that part is a no go for me (and because I'm slightly intimidated to be isolated with actual factual skinheads).
However! I do appreciate your other kind suggestions! I've made signs before, and I've waved them and shouted at people while holding them, but I've never really thought about the anatomy of a sign or what makes one catchy, so your thoughts are very helpful!  :)

So I guess the next logical question is, obviously, given that there is a neo-nazi gathering within reasonable travel distance, and given the recent uproar with punching Richard Spencer, is it ok to punch nazis?

It's sort of a moral imperative.

If you are not the punchy type, find some other way to make them miserable.

Stabbing is much more effective. They become noticably less nazi with every pint of blood they lose, right up until you hit that sweet spot where they're totally cured
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 10, 2017, 02:11:38 pm
Do you have local antifa in your area?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 10, 2017, 03:45:08 pm
Do you have local antifa in your area?

Yea, but they aren't very large. I know a few guys in it, but they aren't hardcore, and I don't know how "down" they are with traditional antifa tactics.
Also, I'm wondering if antifa tactics would be very effective in this instance. Most antifa instances occur in larger cities with larger groups of people, where its easier to blend in and disappear. This event is taking place in a small town, and any antifa group would have to travel from a nearby city, which is not very close. If shit goes down, there's nowhere to really run to or disappear.
Alternatively, this is a small town with a very small police force that might be overwhelmed by this activity, it's hard to tell how effective something like that would be ahead of time.
There's already a counter rally, but it's all about good vibes, which is to be expected I guess.

So.... I'm sort of town between a more confrontational approach and between having a very loud and offensive, flamboyant party.
I really want to stamp out nazis with all of my rage, but I also don't want these nazis to gain a foothold in the area. The folk in that area, who probably already have low-key racist ideas or might be sympathetic to those ideas might be drawn toward fascist groups if the other opposition to those groups are equally offensive to them. Another part of me feels that pandering to people who may be on the fence is a terribly craven thing to do.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Vanadium Gryllz on February 10, 2017, 04:30:20 pm
Do you think violence or nonviolence from the "We don't like Nazis" group would be more effective at swaying those who are on the fence away from the "We do like Nazis" group?

Do you think people that are on the fence will be swayed by outside actors in either case or will they just go with what feels right for them?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 10, 2017, 04:51:27 pm
Anyone else notice that how the far right nazis and the far left commies both say they represent the working people, but most of their groups  are neets, and working people just want them to fuck off?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 10, 2017, 04:54:50 pm
Anyone else notice that how the far right nazis and the far left commies both say they represent the working people, but most of their groups  are neets, and working people just want them to fuck off?

I'm a far-left Commie and I don't say I represent "working people". I don't represent anyone, really. I just support not being a horrible racist bag of shit with no redeeming qualities.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 10, 2017, 05:00:14 pm
I would suggest getting people who have the flu or some disease to go blend in with the nazis and not use a tissue or wash their hands. Like try to sneeze on as many fascists as they can. Do NHGH's work on earth.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 10, 2017, 05:14:46 pm
Anyone else notice that how the far right nazis and the far left commies both say they represent the working people, but most of their groups  are neets, and working people just want them to fuck off?

I'm a far-left Commie and I don't say I represent "working people". I don't represent anyone, really. I just support not being a horrible racist bag of shit with no redeeming qualities.


The fuck kind of communist doesn't work with or for the proletariat. 

Also yall need love. Theres to even actual nazis than being a nazi and this dichotomy is only going to end in violence and bad shit.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 10, 2017, 06:11:07 pm
Most communists I know are underemployed intellectuals.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LMNO on February 10, 2017, 07:22:57 pm
To paraphrase: When you're on the shit end side of a capitalist system, you don't have time to do anything by try not to starve to death.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 10, 2017, 07:35:37 pm
To paraphrase: When you're on the shit end side of a capitalist system, you don't have time to do anything by try not to starve to death.

Ok, yea, to an extent, but when you're on the shit side of the spectrum and have been for generations, people tend to get desperate and look to others who claim to have the answers. These white nationalists and neo-Nazis are claiming to have the answers and they are seeking out very desperate people. I've listened to them speak before, they are fast talkers, their hate is subtle at first, speaking mostly in innuendo and coded language until you think they aren't so terrible and maybe have a few good ideas. It's insidious.

They are having the info session the first day in a semi-private  location in a park and charging a fee, then the next day they are holding a public demonstration. From what I gather they expect and maybe even desire a physical altercation, something to bring them wider attention.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 10, 2017, 07:40:19 pm
Do you think violence or nonviolence from the "We don't like Nazis" group would be more effective at swaying those who are on the fence away from the "We do like Nazis" group?

Do you think people that are on the fence will be swayed by outside actors in either case or will they just go with what feels right for them?

As for you first question, I'm not sure. Also, I don't think anyone is on the fence about liking Nazis, but they often reject the label nazi and try to reframe it as something else. I think people can be on the fence and sympathetic without realizing these people are white nationalists and neoi-Nazis.

As for your second question, I think people are often swayed by things whether they want to be or not, but I'm generally an optimist.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 10, 2017, 08:23:59 pm
To paraphrase: When you're on the shit end side of a capitalist system, you don't have time to do anything by try not to starve to death.

Takes like 20 minutes not to starve to death in America.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LMNO on February 10, 2017, 08:27:54 pm
To paraphrase: When you're on the shit end side of a capitalist system, you don't have time to do anything by try not to starve to death.

Takes like 20 minutes not to starve to death in America.

Okay Requia, that was called hyperbole.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 10, 2017, 11:14:27 pm
Is the park where he event's at usually public? You could sneak over there the night before the event starts and spread a bunch of manure or dog shit or something around. Something that could plausibly be in a park for a non-sabotage reason but that would be unpleasant to step in.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 10, 2017, 11:24:09 pm
Is the park where he event's at usually public? You could sneak over there the night before the event starts and spread a bunch of manure or dog shit or something around. Something that could plausibly be in a park for a non-sabotage reason but that would be unpleasant to step in.

or land mines! :D
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 11, 2017, 02:01:55 am
Loose nails in the parking lot
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 11, 2017, 02:14:27 am
I like those markers for cars. Easy to wash, but still not awesome when your car is covered in pastel NAZI SCUM or I LIKE TO SMELL BUTTS.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 11, 2017, 02:14:56 am
Or, of course, I LIKE TO SMELL NAZI SCUM BUTTS.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LuciferX on February 11, 2017, 10:44:04 am
The Slave of a Slave
    Is a Fascist
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 11, 2017, 12:48:14 pm
Anyone else notice that how the far right nazis and the far left commies both say they represent the working people, but most of their groups  are neets, and working people just want them to fuck off?

I'm a far-left Commie and I don't say I represent "working people". I don't represent anyone, really. I just support not being a horrible racist bag of shit with no redeeming qualities.


The fuck kind of communist doesn't work with or for the proletariat. 
If you have a working class then you do not have a classless society. And the great sin committed against the working class is not just that they are unappreciated and underrewarded but the very fact that they are working class. Just and stable equality can only be achieved by total automation and elimination of the paradigm of working for a living. The entire population must be gathered into the ivory tower.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: bugmenоt on February 11, 2017, 05:20:31 pm
Please have at least one nearby friend who can see how you're doing at any time.

Here are some ideas in case you choose to go undercover. I've not tested all of them.

Don't smile. Smiling makes them suspicious. Shouldn't be too hard not to smile amongst fascists anyway. As long as there's nothing specific to fake-laugh at, try to mimic a Moai statue's facial expression.

Roam some White Nationalist forums beforehand, so you'll have something to talk about just in case. It also allows you to piggyback on the "conspiracy" mindset you often find amongst them. You could, for example, claim that forum X is secretly run by far-left Socialists or something.

Maybe even contact that specific group beforehand and "join" them in order to gain their trust.

You could sneak your own flyers amongst theirs, with instructions on how to "join an underground Nationalist network" or "make your phone hacker-proof". Did you know that an Android phone starts formatting itself as soon as you type *2767*3855# where you normally type numbers? No warning messages. No confirmation. The factory reset starts as soon as you type the last character.

Hand out free cookies that taste awful.

Handing out white roses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_rose) is probably safe, because one needs to know history to get the reference.

Bad smell has already been suggested. It's a subtle way to lower their chances of recruiting new members. Sneakily putting a stinking substance on their propaganda material could be effective. Butyric acid smells really bad.

Put on some annoying music, pretending to be dead serious about it.

Needs some considerable skill, effort, and/or money, but https://gizmodo.com/5829551/free-t-shirts-given-to-neo-nazis-contained-a-secret-message-after-being-washed
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 11, 2017, 05:55:28 pm
Spread a rumor about one of more of them having distant black or arab ancestry

Hand out free cookies that taste awful.

Hand out free cookies that haven't been cooked properly and represent a salmonella hazard. Something where the batter both includes eggs and has been allowed to sit our overnight without refridgetation before being cooked, and not cooked thoroughly. Maybe also add exlax.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 11, 2017, 06:13:45 pm
Make a batch of ricin, plant it on someone in the crowd, and call the DHS.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 11, 2017, 07:51:33 pm
Make a batch of ricin, plant it on someone in the crowd, and call the DHS.

Isn't that an executive department?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 11, 2017, 07:55:03 pm
As the resident bureaucratic adviser, I unequivocally disavow some of these suggestions which are in contravention to the laws and regulations which govern my temporal existence.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 11, 2017, 09:06:32 pm
As the resident bureaucratic adviser, I unequivocally disavow some of these suggestions which are in contravention to the laws and regulations which govern my temporal existence.

I have hope for this one.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 11, 2017, 09:11:08 pm
As the resident bureaucratic adviser, I unequivocally disavow some of these suggestions which are in contravention to the laws and regulations which govern my temporal existence.

(http://i.imgur.com/Mw8ywEL.gif)
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 12, 2017, 12:39:28 am
Fuck my nippled ball farts, these fucking white nationalists and nazis are mobilizing directly in my community. Their online presence in local news threads has exploded, and they have been posting up their flyers in various spots around my community.
The most frustrating part is it seems like they are actually gaining traction.
I'm not in some podunk little southern town either...
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 12, 2017, 01:12:48 am
Make some stickers?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on February 12, 2017, 01:14:52 am
It sounds silly, but if you find they propaganda all over the place it's a good idea to counter it or obliterate their shit with sharpies
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on February 12, 2017, 01:40:53 am
It sounds silly, but if you find they propaganda all over the place it's a good idea to counter it or obliterate their shit with sharpies

Next week once I have some time I plan on littering anti-nazi flyers like its turn of the millennia Fallujah. I have access to near unlimited paper and printers. I'll snoop around for some good flyers and look for a local organization to contact and link on there. Maybe a local diversity group for people to join, potentially the local Black Lives Matter chapter, or the Southern Poverty Law Center, and an organization designed to help people leave hate groups they have joined.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 12, 2017, 03:30:42 am
Fuck my nippled ball farts, these fucking white nationalists and nazis are mobilizing directly in my community. Their online presence in local news threads has exploded, and they have been posting up their flyers in various spots around my community.
The most frustrating part is it seems like they are actually gaining traction.
I'm not in some podunk little southern town either...

For one thing I'd look into if the flyers and posters and stuff have been put up in places where it's legal to post flyers and stuff. If not, call the cops on them. If it is legal to post things there, maybe take one make a copy and change some information; names, phone numbers, that kind of thing and replace the real flyers. Maybe change their phone number to the number for to that deprogramming organization

EDIT:
Or perhaps an expensive phone sex line
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 12, 2017, 05:22:26 pm
I am the best at flyers. Get me some written content and I'll churn out a bunch.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: INTELLIGENCE_BOT on February 12, 2017, 09:36:04 pm
DISCUSSION CAPTURED.

Thank you for your input on this subject, civilians.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 13, 2017, 08:35:06 am
>civilians.


Heh, shows what you know.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 14, 2017, 04:03:55 am
DISCUSSION CAPTURED.

Thank you for your input on this subject, civilians.

Nah. I don't think impersonating a federal officer would be a good tack for him to use. What if they call his bluff? He can't arrest them.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 20, 2017, 08:41:57 pm
take all those flyers and use them as kindling to set fire to the building and lock the doors, fucking Nazi scum deserve the sweet release of death
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 20, 2017, 08:43:48 pm
also, if you spraypaint swaztikas in random places through the town, the police will think the nazis did it and they'll break up the rally.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 20, 2017, 10:19:45 pm
also, if you spraypaint swaztikas in random places through the town, the police will think the nazis did it and they'll break up the rally.
I would never* endorse such an underhanded and illegal tactic.










*for some definitions of "never"
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 21, 2017, 12:00:56 am
So you would not or you maybe would? The way I see it, there is no choice. Something has to be done, and if it means breaking the law to do it then the law is wrong.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 21, 2017, 12:11:35 am
So you would not or you maybe would? The way I see it, there is no choice. Something has to be done, and if it means breaking the law to do it then the law is wrong.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k0ymk.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1k0ymk)
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 21, 2017, 02:03:40 am
The only time it is acceptable to break the law is when you have plausible deniability
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 21, 2017, 02:23:25 am
it should be illegal to be a NAZI
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 21, 2017, 02:33:37 am
it should be illegal to be a NAZI

:rush:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2017, 03:18:57 am
So you would not or you maybe would? The way I see it, there is no choice. Something has to be done, and if it means breaking the law to do it then the law is wrong.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k0ymk.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1k0ymk)

Sic
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Aucoq on February 21, 2017, 04:14:24 pm
So you would not or you maybe would? The way I see it, there is no choice. Something has to be done, and if it means breaking the law to do it then the law is wrong.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1k0ymk.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1k0ymk)

:lol::lol::lol:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 21, 2017, 06:27:57 pm
Resorting to violence is pretty dumb.  Especially agianst gun totin military wanna be red necks.

Btw theyre not real nazis.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 07:40:36 pm
Endorsing Nazi ideology is as close to being a real Nazi as anyone needs to get.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 21, 2017, 08:48:28 pm
See I disagree, the line between run of the mill racist and deseeving the hate the nazis get should start somewhere around when they start killing people.

Otherwise you get a red scare like effect and almost anything can become nazi ideology. Not watching interracial porn. BAM nazi, off to the gallows.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:12:33 pm
Oh, I see, we're doing the slippery slope fallacy now.

Perhaps you could use a dose of reality to help you clear up these misconceptions you seem to have about that actual harm done by people who embrace Nazi ideology.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/24/majority-of-fatal-attacks-on-us-soil-carried-out-b/
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In the 14 years since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, nearly twice as many people have been killed in the United States by white supremacists and anti-government radicals than by Muslim jihadis, according to a new study.
White supremacists and anti-government radicals have killed 48 Americans, including last week’s deadly attack in South Carolina, versus 26 killings by Muslim radicals, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
New America program associate David Sterman said the study shows that white supremacy and anti-government idealists are a major problem, that their growth rate needs to be addressed and that there is an “ignored threat” woven in the fabric of American society.
“Each time it [right-wing, radical violence] comes up, there’s a tendency to dismiss it as lone actor, mental health issues,” he said. “So it’s important to not ignore threats,”
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 21, 2017, 09:26:33 pm
PREEMPTIVE STRIKE

no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi, which is why I say we make it illegal in the first place to be one. Even better, NO GUNS = Nazis who can't kill you. It'll just be one big punchfest, and I'm okay with that. Maybe even go back to carrying swords.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 21, 2017, 09:28:13 pm
PREEMPTIVE STRIKE

no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi, which is why I say we make it illegal in the first place to be one. Even better, NO GUNS = Nazis who can't kill you. It'll just be one big punchfest, and I'm okay with that. Maybe even go back to carrying swords.

Go away and play, dear, the grownups are talking.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 09:57:25 pm
FWIW, I think many, many people can tell the difference between someone who embraces Nazi ideals and someone who is just a run-of-the-mill racist. You know how they can tell? Because the run-of-the-mill racist doesn't identify as part of a White Supremacist movement or espouse Nazi ideology.

How is this so hard to comprehend?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 21, 2017, 10:57:57 pm
Feel like that's kind of missleading. 19 us citizens died from jihadist while traveling abroad.

www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257528.htm

And if you look world wide jihadist killed 15,000 and communist killed around 500.

www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

Seems that in america we dont have many politically fueld terrorists, just crazy people tbh. Though it does apear the right is more terrorizing.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 21, 2017, 11:33:00 pm
no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi

What about Alabama?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 21, 2017, 11:43:32 pm
Feel like that's kind of missleading. 19 us citizens died from jihadist while traveling abroad.

www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257528.htm

And if you look world wide jihadist killed 15,000 and communist killed around 500.

www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

Seems that in america we dont have many politically fueld terrorists, just crazy people tbh. Though it does apear the right is more terrorizing.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html

Wait... it's misleading because when talking about attacks within this country, it compares only attacks within this country?

The fact that you refuse to recognize white supremacist groups and white supremacist ideology as politically fueled terrorism speaks volumes. Just another lone gunman, nothing to see here folks.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 12:09:35 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: 00.dusk on February 22, 2017, 12:55:48 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.

I'm pretty sure that IPunchNazis guy is one of Them anyway, pretending to be one of Us People.

Fortunately, it's pretty easy to tell he's not Us People. He hasn't eaten enough of his own species to have gotten off his knuckles yet. The stench of scorched ass hair is lacking in his vicinity. The secret PD.com messenger gnome doesn't whisper his name in a hushed tone of reverence and fear. He doesn't have his own holiday. I bet he doesn't even know why Enrico Salazar died for his sins.

In short, you should treat him like you would treat Them and not like you would treat a potential future biped. He's meant to be an ideological trojan horse, except we tear apart our gifts so we can shit in the boxes and mail them to world leaders, so he was never going to succeed.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 12:59:14 am
PREEMPTIVE STRIKE

no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi, which is why I say we make it illegal in the first place to be one. Even better, NO GUNS = Nazis who can't kill you. It'll just be one big punchfest, and I'm okay with that. Maybe even go back to carrying swords.

You know, if you put more than a one dimensional character out for us to see, people would probably not call you a troll.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2017, 01:11:47 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.

I'm pretty sure that IPunchNazis guy is one of Them anyway, pretending to be one of Us People.

Fortunately, it's pretty easy to tell he's not Us People. He hasn't eaten enough of his own species to have gotten off his knuckles yet. The stench of scorched ass hair is lacking in his vicinity. The secret PD.com messenger gnome doesn't whisper his name in a hushed tone of reverence and fear. He doesn't have his own holiday. I bet he doesn't even know why Enrico Salazar died for his sins.

In short, you should treat him like you would treat Them and not like you would treat a potential future biped. He's meant to be an ideological trojan horse, except we tear apart our gifts so we can shit in the boxes and mail them to world leaders, so he was never going to succeed.

Pretty sure it's RP being clever.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2017, 01:16:14 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.

I'm pretty sure that IPunchNazis guy is one of Them anyway, pretending to be one of Us People.

Fortunately, it's pretty easy to tell he's not Us People. He hasn't eaten enough of his own species to have gotten off his knuckles yet. The stench of scorched ass hair is lacking in his vicinity. The secret PD.com messenger gnome doesn't whisper his name in a hushed tone of reverence and fear. He doesn't have his own holiday. I bet he doesn't even know why Enrico Salazar died for his sins.

In short, you should treat him like you would treat Them and not like you would treat a potential future biped. He's meant to be an ideological trojan horse, except we tear apart our gifts so we can shit in the boxes and mail them to world leaders, so he was never going to succeed.

Pretty sure it's RP being clever.

That would be a first.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 01:27:29 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.

My esteem for you is increased; a person being able to recognize when they were wrong is a big deal to me, menschwise.

Regardless of what Discordians do, I deal in evidence. Evidence indicates that Nazis, in the sense of white supremacist groups that endorse Nazi ideology, are a problem in the US.

You are right, what RP/IPN is calling Nazis aren't Nazis. He's using the word to refer to run of the mill racist dumbasses, who are not self-declared members of one of the abovementioned groups. He is doing so deliberately, in an attempt to undermine the argument for punching Nazis.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 01:28:20 am
This is discordianism. We dont dabble in conspiracy theories about crazy people.

Though tbh. Think I'm in the wrong.  My bad, Nazis are a problem.  Though what people like ipunchnazis call a nazi isnt a Nazi. I'm defending the term because it gets thrown at fucking everything now and days.

I'm pretty sure that IPunchNazis guy is one of Them anyway, pretending to be one of Us People.

Fortunately, it's pretty easy to tell he's not Us People. He hasn't eaten enough of his own species to have gotten off his knuckles yet. The stench of scorched ass hair is lacking in his vicinity. The secret PD.com messenger gnome doesn't whisper his name in a hushed tone of reverence and fear. He doesn't have his own holiday. I bet he doesn't even know why Enrico Salazar died for his sins.

In short, you should treat him like you would treat Them and not like you would treat a potential future biped. He's meant to be an ideological trojan horse, except we tear apart our gifts so we can shit in the boxes and mail them to world leaders, so he was never going to succeed.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 01:35:22 am
I've only been here for like a day

Sorry, I'm just excited to find real life people actually doing something positive about the Nazi problem and not like the other guy said, which is just making memes on Facebook. I used to think the NWO was the problem but I'm not so sure anymore. grew up watching Indianna Jones movies, didn't even know Nazis were still a thing until they started holding fucking rallies in D.C. out in the open. I don't believe in magic, I'm only half-serious about that but when I found out Discordianism was real I had to find out for myself.

I mean you guys seem like you're on both sides of the whole thing, I'd be suspicious if I were part of some kind of crazy game of triple spies or whatever. Still not convinced it's not some kind of RPG thing, but I'll take my chances

PREEMPTIVE STRIKE

no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi, which is why I say we make it illegal in the first place to be one. Even better, NO GUNS = Nazis who can't kill you. It'll just be one big punchfest, and I'm okay with that. Maybe even go back to carrying swords.

You know, if you put more than a one dimensional character out for us to see, people would probably not call you a troll.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 01:39:32 am
no, I'm talking about the ACTUAL NAZIS who are getting punched in the face on live TV
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Freeky on February 22, 2017, 01:42:23 am
Ah? Well then, try being more of a person with interests outside of Punching Nazis. Slow your roll, sort of thing.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 01:44:16 am
I like anime
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2017, 01:48:12 am
Quote
I don't believe in magic, I'm only half-serious about that but when I found out Discordianism was real I had to find out for myself.

Newsfeed?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 01:49:39 am
no, I'm talking about the ACTUAL NAZIS who are getting punched in the face on live TV

Richard buttfencer is a conservative racist. He aint even that bad, hes calm and respectful with his racism. Neo Nazis don't even like him.

Btw dont punch randomly punch people. It's counter productive, no matter their belives. One if they arent being violent it makes you look like a bully.

And two. Using physical power and intimidation to silence political opponents is dangerously fashist.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 01:50:28 am
I like anime


OPM?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 02:13:32 am
I've only been here for like a day

Sorry, I'm just excited to find real life people actually doing something positive about the Nazi problem and not like the other guy said, which is just making memes on Facebook. I used to think the NWO was the problem but I'm not so sure anymore. grew up watching Indianna Jones movies, didn't even know Nazis were still a thing until they started holding fucking rallies in D.C. out in the open. I don't believe in magic, I'm only half-serious about that but when I found out Discordianism was real I had to find out for myself.

I mean you guys seem like you're on both sides of the whole thing, I'd be suspicious if I were part of some kind of crazy game of triple spies or whatever. Still not convinced it's not some kind of RPG thing, but I'll take my chances

PREEMPTIVE STRIKE

no court in the world would convinct you for being violent against a Nazi, which is why I say we make it illegal in the first place to be one. Even better, NO GUNS = Nazis who can't kill you. It'll just be one big punchfest, and I'm okay with that. Maybe even go back to carrying swords.

You know, if you put more than a one dimensional character out for us to see, people would probably not call you a troll.

Just an idea.

We are a suspicious people, who have been trolled many many times in between trolling people. If you are not a Ron Paul, and you stick around, ultimately you too will be suspicious.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 02:16:18 am
Anyway, welcome to whatever it is we are.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 06:35:37 am
I remember Ron Paul because I thought he was against the new world order
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 03:20:02 pm
I remember Ron Paul because I thought he was against the new world order

First of all, forget about any of those oversimplified archetypal schemes. Those are basically allegories for simple-minded people who can't comprehend the endlessly stupid complexities of real human politicking.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 04:33:47 pm
I don't think couldn't vote for a republican even though I kind of liked Paul at the time, it just seemed wrong. But then it turned out to be Mitt "MONEYR" anyway. I don't even remember what the guy's plan was, he just wanted Obama gone for the sake of being 50's dad president guy

Libertarians are just an excuse to be Republicans anyway. I don't try to get up into politics, I think it's all fake in a way. But the Nazis aren't fake.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 22, 2017, 05:05:07 pm
It's like watching someone try to guess my password based on what he sees lying around in my office.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 22, 2017, 05:09:17 pm
It's like watching someone try to guess my password based on what he sees lying around in my office.

 :lol:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 05:16:37 pm
I think we can all agree that voting the same way as NAZIS makes you just as bad.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 22, 2017, 05:19:20 pm
I think we can all agree that voting the same way as NAZIS makes you just as bad.

I'll bet one day you are going to do or say something clever. The anticipation is almost too much to bear.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2017, 05:28:20 pm
It's like watching someone try to guess my password based on what he sees lying around in my office.

 :lol:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 05:37:02 pm
I think we can all agree that voting the same way as NAZIS makes you just as bad.

The last Nazi candidate  was over 40 years ago.  Most Neo Nazis dont vote much. They're a hateful bunch who dispise our goverment.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 05:41:22 pm
I refer you to recent votes in the US and UK. And future votes in Holland, France and Germany.

And I'm quite sure their main beef isn't government as much as say, jews and black people.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 05:46:16 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally is that trumps a jewish puppet and an idiot. Granted those are more the biker drug dealer neo nazis. Not those weirdo suit wearig ones.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LMNO on February 22, 2017, 05:52:37 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally is that trumps a jewish puppet and an idiot. Granted those are more the biker drug dealer neo nazis. Not those weirdo suit wearig ones.

 :ffs:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 22, 2017, 05:56:59 pm
For sure, Trump is more a useful idiot than their chosen champion (that's what Bannon is for). The Neo Nazis would turn on Trump quickly if he's perceived to deviate very far from policies they support. They aren't idiots, so they tolerate his periodic and decidedly limp rejections of outright Fascism and Nazism, since those are necessary for him to maintain his (fragile) legitimacy. Bannon understands this so he engineers the weakest possible ostensibly anti-Nazi statements from the Trump regime while taking care to ensure that the actual policies Trump endorses and decrees will still have a strong pro-Fascist effect. The contradiction is only enough to fool the roughly 50% of Americans circling the drain at the center of the political spectrum like idiots, either unable to see the looming disaster, or unwilling to face it. Luckily for the Neo-Nazis, that's all the contradiction has to do. As soon as it's too late to stop them, the Fascists will abandon Trump without a second thought.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 05:58:46 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally is that trumps a jewish puppet and an idiot. Granted those are more the biker drug dealer neo nazis. Not those weirdo suit wearig ones.

What the fuck?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 22, 2017, 06:15:22 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally is that trumps a jewish puppet and an idiot. Granted those are more the biker drug dealer neo nazis. Not those weirdo suit wearig ones.

I assume you put the word "with" in there by accident.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 06:31:11 pm
Hey man. Gotta have people in all places. Im mostly an anarchist, but if you dont focus on polotics most people are chill to be around.
Dont look at me like that, I also hang out with the far left.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 22, 2017, 06:35:10 pm
Hey man. Gotta have people in all places. Im mostly an anarchist, but if you dont focus on polotics most people are chill to be around.
Dont look at me like that, I also hang out with the far left.

Yeah, I am sure Eichmann was a real Mensch.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2017, 06:37:37 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally

Shut up. 
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LMNO on February 22, 2017, 08:03:54 pm
Hey man. Gotta have people in all places. Im mostly an anarchist, but if you dont focus on polotics most people are chill to be around.
Dont look at me like that, I also hang out with the far left.

Oh, right.  That.

:byefelicia:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 09:16:25 pm
Main sentiment in the neo nazis i hang with occasionally is that trumps a jewish puppet and an idiot. Granted those are more the biker drug dealer neo nazis. Not those weirdo suit wearig ones.

Oh, now I understand your objection to punching Nazis. They're your pals.  :kingmeh: So much for taking you off block; I thought there was a chance you'd turn out to be a biped after all, but clearly you have made other choices.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 10:11:34 pm

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 10:24:02 pm
Jesus fucking wept.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on February 22, 2017, 10:29:04 pm

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.

I have no words to express how utterly morally bankrupt this philosophy is.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on February 22, 2017, 10:34:28 pm
  :jebus:
:hitlerbanjo:

So.... how's them literal NAZI sympathies working out for you Meunster? You wouldn't happen to know anything about a certain snitching problem we've had recently would you? Just curious.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Salty on February 22, 2017, 10:34:59 pm

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.

Haha, it's kind of funny, I was just yesterday writing up the start of this massive conspiracy theory of the infiltration of the Salt-Right into Discordia and the battles the Agents of Discord have been fighting against Applebee's for decades.

That's all, aside from that, which I am going to use in the work, the rest of this is too stupid for words.

"God, I would love to hang out with Karl, but he's always talking about exterminating the jews. All day long, that's all he ever brings up anymore. It's, like, I get you're a NAZI, Karl, and I don't mind, but could we talk about My Little Pony now?"
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 10:40:47 pm
To me, it seems fucking backward to hang about with Neo-nazis on the off-chance they can recommend a fucking video game.


But that's just me. I'm picky like that.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 10:54:45 pm
"I hang with Neo-Nazis because, well, sure they want to exterminate everyone who isn't white, but I'm white, so it doesn't personally affect me".

At that point you may as well be friends with rapists, child molesters, animal torturers, and assorted other scum, because they're perfectly decent to you.

See also this: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,38068.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 22, 2017, 10:56:31 pm
"My buddy's into kiddie porn, but y'know, I'm an adult so what's it to me? He's a lot of fun."
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 11:17:42 pm
In nazi eyes im not white.

Im a jew.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: LMNO on February 22, 2017, 11:19:18 pm

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present: "What privilege looks like".
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 11:23:19 pm
anyone who is friends with a Nazi is a NAZI
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 11:26:46 pm
In nazi eyes im not white.

Im a jew.

In my eyes, you're a fucking moron.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 22, 2017, 11:31:42 pm
dude antisemetic BULLSHIT
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Meunster on February 22, 2017, 11:33:32 pm
anyone who is friends with a Nazi is a NAZI

Great, looks like im a Nazi, Sjw, feminist, ancap, black flag anarchist, weebo, republican, blm, druggie, democrat, fashist, commie.


By being plesant to be around even a jewish gay slut such as myself can have friends.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 22, 2017, 11:35:33 pm
You missed out "fucking moron".

Not surpising, really. What with you being so monumentally stupid.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2017, 12:11:31 am

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.

 :tldr2:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2017, 12:12:24 am
In nazi eyes im not white.

Im a jew.

Hanging out with Nazis.

Your ancestors would be SO proud.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 23, 2017, 01:11:31 am
Don't be friends with nazis. End of story.

It's impossible
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: IPunchNazis on February 23, 2017, 01:12:32 am
and should be illegal
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Aucoq on February 23, 2017, 04:54:49 am
It's like watching someone try to guess my password based on what he sees lying around in my office.

 :lol::lol::lol:
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 07:48:42 am

Just to me it seems dumb to blindly hate people. I've stumbled my way through many social groups and even if they are a neo nazi or an ancap getting applebees and talking about shared interest is always a positive experiance.

I can't condone being a Nazi, but I can support being a person. Which means no matter how fucked up you are theres events in your life that lead you to being who you are. Im not going to invalidate someomes truama or joy because of what they call themselfs and I'm not going to only see them for what they call themself. I'm going to see the complexity in every human, look at the out come, look at the label, and go "well fuck, thats complicated and I'm a simple person, played any good games recently?"

The only people I can't enjoy time spent with are the people who are completely consumed by one thing. And yes, I have gotten in drunk fights with Nazis over polotics, but in the morning  we both apologize and realize not everything is about polotics.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present: "What privilege looks like".

Willfully blind privilege, at that.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 23, 2017, 03:32:05 pm
I'd argue it's not just privilege in action, if Meunster is to be believed about his Jewish heritage. I'm sure there's a word for it, but its the thing where women say they're "not like other girls" and ally themselves with sexist men. "Uncle Tom" behavior in black people. There is always an appetite among the oppressors or would-be oppressors for allies among the groups they want to "keep in their place," and the promise of being counted among the "good" blacks/jews/women/whatever is enough for some to fall for it.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 23, 2017, 03:36:19 pm
I'd argue it's not just privilege in action, if Meunster is to be believed about his Jewish heritage. I'm sure there's a word for it, but its the thing where women say they're "not like other girls" and ally themselves with sexist men. "Uncle Tom" behavior in black people. There is always an appetite among the oppressors or would-be oppressors for allies among the groups they want to "keep in their place," and the promise of being counted among the "good" blacks/jews/women/whatever is enough for some to fall for it.

So, a little internalized antisemitism to go with the privilege of being treated like a human being because he passes for white.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on February 23, 2017, 03:38:02 pm
I'd argue it's not just privilege in action, if Meunster is to be believed about his Jewish heritage. I'm sure there's a word for it, but its the thing where women say they're "not like other girls" and ally themselves with sexist men. "Uncle Tom" behavior in black people. There is always an appetite among the oppressors or would-be oppressors for allies among the groups they want to "keep in their place," and the promise of being counted among the "good" blacks/jews/women/whatever is enough for some to fall for it.

So, a little internalized antisemitism to go with the privilege of being treated like a human being because he passes for white.

Yeah, that sounds right.
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Junkenstein on February 23, 2017, 03:53:41 pm
Dan burros anyone?
Title: Re: White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi Recruitment Rally
Post by: Bathtub Jim on March 08, 2017, 04:11:06 pm
Hey all, haven't been here for a minute.
This thread took a fun twist.

Being jewish and being friends with nazis reminds me of Milo. Every time he was accused of being a total piece of shit and associating with completely reprehensible people, he would say, "no, they aren't all evil, they accept a gay jew who supports miscegenation!"

Unfortunately, I was looking at my schedule, and not only does this date fall on my birthday, it also falls during the week in which I will have to take law school exams :/. Do I risk missing an exam in law school to participate in an event which could lead to my arrest or an injury? These are all difficult questions...

Also, this is a small town the event is taking place in, and the only park in town has been rented by a group holding an anti-nazi rally. However! they are planning on banning all people who use divisive political speech or use vulgar language in the park! The anti-fascist rally is being run by fascists, and so therefore the only place to demonstrate will be on sidewalks and in the street where there is a dramatically increased likelihood of being targeted by police.